The Real-Life Hero Behind Sound of Freedom | Talk2Rami feat. Paul Hutchinson - Talk2Rami

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This isn't just a problem that'sgoing to be fixed by AI.
This isn't a problem that's going to be fixed by law
enforcement, and this isn't a problem that's going to be fixed
by undercover agents, right? This is something that that
every single person has to ask themselves how they're
contributing to the negativity in the world.

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If you had the power to save a child but immend risking your
own life in a foreigner country with no backup, would you do it?
That's my question for you. Paul Hutchinson did that not
once, but over 70 times across 15 countries.
He's the primary investor and executive producer of The Sound

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of Freedom movie, founder of theChild Liberation Foundation, and
the man who has helped rescue over 5000 children from
trafficking. After years in business, Paul
turned his attention to one of the darkest issues in the world,
child trafficking. Paul, welcome to the show, my

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friend. Thank you Robbie, incredibly
grateful to be here. I am grateful to have you.
I have a question. This is you.
You were the hardcore entrepreneur making millions as
a serial entrepreneur, but over you build 15 successful
businesses. Man, what drove you to go trade

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that comfortable life and then take the more dangerous life and
fight against human trafficking?What drove you?
Well, then the pivotal moment for me was when I had been
recruited to come on just one mission.
It was the one that we highlighted in the movie Sound

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of Freedom in Colombia. And I remember at one point I
was, I was sitting down just like you and I are right now,
sitting on a chair. And these traffickers had
brought a bunch of children thatthey were selling their

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innocence to me and the other operators.
And, and sitting here in this chair, I, I, I was almost eye
level with this little girl as she was standing up.
She had a little Kitty cat shirt.
She had her hair in, in braids. They had put makeup on her face.

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She was 11 and she had been crying for the last 10 minutes,
so scared of coming to meet me, the man that was supposedly
going to take her innocence. And I was so glad that we were

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there and not some monster. And looking at her in her eyes
and seeing the fear that was there, I made a commitment to
myself, to God, to that little girl that I would dedicate my
life to eradicating that evil. I, I couldn't, I couldn't

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imagine continuing in my life with cars and The Jets and the
helicopters and the parties and all of this stuff knowing that
that kind of thing was happening, some in our own
backyards, some in second and third world countries, and that

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that was the moment that changedmy life.
I got a goosebump when you were talking about it because it's
hard to control yourself when you're sitting in that
environment. And basically the trafficker
brings you his inventory and says, here you go.
And I don't know how you did it,but I was.
If I was there, I would jump himand cut his throat.

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I don't know. Imagine that gig.
She really thought that you wereone of the clients.
Yeah. Is that right?
Like you were. Sitting in, yeah, that's why I
was posing. I this, this trafficker had, he
had this idea that he, he had this piece of property that he
had inherited from his mom, he was trafficking children, but he

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had this idea that he wanted to build this resort, this place
that he could sell his inventoryto wealthy Americans and make
millions doing so. And, and, and the plan was, I
was supposed to go in undercover, pretend to be a
wealthy buyer and a wealthy investor in these, this horrific

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business plan. And, and I told the traffickers,
you know, listen, I'll, I'll, I'll consider funding your
project. If under one condition, we're
going to have a party, I'm goingto bring some of my friends,
we're going to bring the kids. You guys bring all the kids.
And this is how we, we got him to call all the other
traffickers and get them to bring all their kids to the same

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place at the same time. I told him, if I'm happy with
all of the inventory that you have, then I'll fund your
project. And you know, I remember this
was two weeks before when I, when I sat down with this little
girl and I, I, this is my very first meeting with the
traffickers. And he was so excited.

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I was willing to like look at his project.
He, he leaned forward. He goes, Pablo, I have a gift
for you. It's like, what's your gift?
And he hands me his phone and there's a picture of this little
11 year old girl, the same one that he brought there with the
pigtails and the braids and the little Kitty cat face.
And he showed me this picture ofher.

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In the movie Sound of Freedom. My, my, my character was
portrayed by Eduardo Varrostiki.He played Pablo, the wealthy
fund manager who quits his job to go help rescue kids.
And, and, and in the movie, my character said, no, I don't, I
don't want to go as too dangerous, whatever.
In real life, I was already there when that happened.

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See in in the movie, I said, I don't want to go.
And it wasn't until he showed mea picture of, of this little
girl that that transformed my life.
In real life, I'm literally sitting in front of these
traffickers and and he goes, I have a gift for you.
And he shows me this picture of this 11 year old girl.
He said, this is Princess. She's 0 kilometer miles.

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And that's the first time that Iknew that I had, I was looking
at a child that was being sold for the unthinkable.
And that galvanized my commitment to make sure we did
whatever needed to happen to to take these guys down.
And in that operation, they had showed up with 54 children in

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Cartagena, over 120 children total between 3 separate cities
on the same day. It was the largest child rescue
mission in one Day in History that I knew of at the time.
And what was interesting is, is when I, when I accepted the call
to go, my, my business partner called me and he goes, Paul, he
says you're set. He says, he says, have you, have

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you thought through this? He says this is really
dangerous. He said you, you're set.
You can, you can sell out today,be, buy an island, be happy the
rest of your life. I said, John, would I really be
happy if I, if I bought an island, if I bought another
helicopter, if I I had two, right?

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If I, if I had a bigger house, you know, I had a house with 10
bathrooms, all this bullshit that didn't matter.
I said. I said, would I really be happy?
I said, tell me this John, if I,if I was doing something else
dangerous, if I was, if I was climbing Everest tomorrow, you
and I would have the same conversation.
He goes, yeah, we probably would.

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I said when I'm 95 years old, I'm looking back on my life.
I say I climbed this mountain, Ihelped build this multi billion
dollar company. I helped rescue this many
children. Which of them matters?
And what was interesting is moving forward, you know, I had,
I had started doing some other other missions because that had

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changed my life so much. And I remember I was dating a
girl who we were getting pretty close and she said, Paul, she
said, I don't, I don't want you to go back out there.
There's it's way too dangerous. And I had just got back from a
pre op where I had met some of the kids the traffickers were
selling. And we were waiting for the

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opportunity to be able to do thesting to, to take them all down.
And we're going back down and the next week.
And she said, I don't want you to go.
That's just way too dangerous. And she had two little boys at
the time. Her her sons one was 9/1 was 11.
And and then they had a little girl that was that was in the
neighborhood that was playing with them.
And I, this little girl, I thinkher name was Jessica.

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And I said, Jessica, come over here for a minute.
She came over to the table and Isaid, I said, how old are you?
She said, I'm eleven, almost 12.I said, and what do you do for
fun? She said, I, I like to sing, I
like to dance. I like to, you know, play with
my friends. I said, and what do you want to

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do when you grow up? She goes, oh maybe, maybe be a
dancer or maybe be a nurse. Beautiful dreams for a beautiful
11 year old girl. And I had her go play with the
kids and I turned to my girlfriend at the time and I
said the kids that that trafficker showed me yesterday

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were her age and if I don't go back down they could be sold for
the unthinkable to somebody else.
They deserve to want to grow up,to be a dancer, to be a singer,
to be a nurse. Why some of us we don't

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understand that this is happening in our own backyard,
the United State and then we allthinking that I have to see it
to believe it. If you guys would listen or
watch this, you got to believe is this problem exists, but for
some reason, somehow some of us,we are ignoring it.

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I don't know, Paul, what it is. Is it the politics?
Is it the money? I know that they are government
or other. They know this is a problem, but
nobody's going to fund it. That's what so many organization
like yours exist to fight against this.
Maybe they understand it, maybe they ignore it.
I don't know. Maybe you have that answer for

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me. Like you took the sound of
freedom to many studios. They didn't want to do it.
They didn't want to have to do deal anything with it because
they want to take your control of the whole thing.
But if you do that, you can't just really draw the whole
picture. Exactly.
We we, we went into Sony and Lionsgate and Paramount early on
with the story of that first rescue mission, Colombia.

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And they, they wanted to, they were interested, but they wanted
full literary control. They, they could change
anything, make it, you know, whatever they wanted.
And, you know, too much in Hollywood is not in line with
with what we as Americans reallyneed to, to, to learn to help
keep our kids safe and, and to understand the darkness that's

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out there. A lot of them are involved,
sadly. We, we finished the movie Sound
of Freedom. We finished at five years before
it ever got distribution. We were turned down everywhere,
turned down by Netflix. You know, Netflix turns down
sound of freedom. Yet they would they would have
the TV series cuties, right? A bunch of 10 year olds run

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around strip dressed like strippers.
Are you kidding me? You know, and so, so it's, it's
becoming more and more evident now with the, with the P Diddy
trials and, and stuff of how many people in Hollywood are
sadly involved in some very darksexual behaviors.

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And so we need to be aware, we need to be aware of, of how they
live their personal lives and, and what their agendas are in
trying to take us away from our moral foundations.
And they didn't want to have these conversations that you and
I are having now. They didn't want to have the US
having these conversations. They, they didn't, they didn't

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want us to have these not only on air, not even around our
dinner tables. It was, it was, you know, not
polite to have a conversation about child trafficking.
But it's important to know that there are more today.
And I'm not talking about just children being abused in the
home. I'm talking sold human beings.

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There's more today than all 300 years of the transatlantic slave
trade put together. But beyond that, the ones that
are being abused in their own homes, that's a massive number.
Massive and, and there's somewhere between 11:50 million
children who are being trafficked.

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However, there's over a billion women on this planet who have
experienced sexual abuse as a child, as a child, most of them
in their own homes. That's literally one in every
four women that you know, guys, one in every four.
And most people don't talk aboutit, especially men.

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The average age of talking aboutthis going on in their own homes
as a child, the average age is 52 years old.
That's my age. I've raised my kids.
I, I've, I've built my career. If, if, if you're holding on to
that pain in your childhood, it's coming out.
It's coming out in low self esteem, anxiety, depression,

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PTSD, addictions, all kinds of of issues that people deal with.
You know, guys will will have these insatiable addictions to
promiscuity or, or or or pornography, not realizing that
a lot of that comes from unhealed childhood trauma of
their own and hurt people hurt other people.

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So we need to. We need to recognize what we
need to do as humanity to heal, what we need to heal, so that
this isn't a problem for our kids, grandkids, and beyond.
I remember when the The Sound ofFreedom movie came out, I went
to movie theater and watch it and the guy was front of me said
I heard this is a great action movie.
I got mad and you know, and I said, Sir, with all due respect,

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this is not the action movie. This is a movie that will
educate you. And then you have to take action
based on what you see, what you feel, because this might happen
to you, to your niece, to your grandkids, to any loved one that
you have in your family. That's what we don't understand
and not going to happen to me. OK, that was good.

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I saw it, but it's not my kid. Yes, it might be your kid.
It might be your neighbor kid. You, you spend your own money.
You went over there. You you're going to be founding
this whole thing and then go through it and it's an emotional
rollercoaster coaster for you. You went through a lot of
emotional, you are a father, yougot kids, you got all and it's

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not easy to cope with that afteryou come out of it.
Imagine the kids that they're going through it.
Even you rescued them. Some of them, as you know, their
parents actually sold them. What are you going to do after
that? Have you ever had that case?
Absolutely. Yeah, more than more than half
the the children in Southeast Asia and Thailand were sold by

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their own families. But but beyond that, it's
important for parents to understand that, you know, here
in the United States, here you're, you don't normally have,
you know, a healthy family with a child taken and put into a
container ship and taken to another country.
That's not the norm. Yes, that happens, but that

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usually happens from kids that are runaways or a broken family
or a broken foster care program.However, it's important that
parents understand that the majority of children who are
being exploited, and even ones who are being sold, the majority
of them sleep in their own beds at night and their parents don't

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even know that it's happening. And there were multiple
operations that we did where theperpetrator was an aunt or an
uncle or a babysitter who was working with the traffickers who
already had been abusing that child and then was now making
money off the abuse of that child and controlling them
through drugs, controlling them through fear.

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You need a people will leave themovie Sound of Freedom, and
they'll be mad. They'll be like, oh, I want to
do something. I want to, I want to go rescue
kids. I want to go fight bad guys.
Yeah. The worst thing you can do is go
try to go undercover in Mexico. You're going to get arrested.
You're probably going to get shot.
The best thing you can do is go home and hug your children.

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And people are like, oh, how does, how does hugging my
children? How does that make a difference?
Well, if you don't have, if you're not your child's 911,
then who is right? You need to be the person that
they call when things go bad. They when things feel out of

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place. If, if you need to be the one
that your daughter says, Hey, dad, hey, I don't like it when
you hug. He'll tell me to hug Uncle Harry
because he's touching us weird and and he tells us we should
have secrets that we can't tell you about or we I don't I don't

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like it when we go to this babysitter.
She's showing us pornography andsays that we should trust her
more than you or this, this thisfriend's house.
Her friend was take her brother was taking pictures of us when
we're changing. And now, now he says he's going
to use these pictures around theschool unless we do other
things. These are grooming behaviors,
but more prevalent today than ever is the online predatory

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action. You have no idea how many
predators are looking at your children online.
Guys, if you're going to let your kids have social media, OK,
Don't let it be open for the general public to see.
Make sure that you're aware of their their settings so that

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it's just their friends, their real friends who are liking
their photos, who are interacting with them.
Because there are so many predators in our country and
outside the country who are using social media to exploit
kids. In fact, there's, there's apps
called Nudify apps that these, these predators can take a, you

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know, celebrity and boom, this Apple take off all their clothes
and it looks real. They can do that to you.
They can do that to your kids. Is that what you want?
And they use sextortion to control these kids and, and, and
control them through fear. What will happen is you need a
relationship with your daughter where she can come to you and

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say, Hey dad, I really screwed up.
Or even your son. This guys, this is more
prevalent with kids with it withboys with this sex extortion,
right? Your son needs to come to you
and say hey Dada, I really screwed up.
What really what happened? Well I was chatting online with
this girl and she sent me a. Inappropriate picture and then

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convince me to do the same. And so I sent it to her and now
I sent a video because she wanted more.
That's probably not a little girl on the other end.
It's probably a 40 year old dudethat's exploiting your child
because they cut connected with him on on one of his gaming apps
and then convinced him that he needed to take the conversation

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outside the gaming app onto WhatsApp or, you know, some
other app that's more private. And then in that privacy of that
app, they're talking back and forth, him thinking that it's a
young girl and it's not. And then after they get pictures
of them, they say, OK, now you need to start sending money.
Otherwise this pictures going around your school.

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Do you want that? And now we've had many
situations where these kids havecommitted suicide because
they've sent out a picture, sentout a video, and now they're
exploiting them saying it's going to go more or they're
saying now, or you need to meet at this place and, and, and do

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some other things or this is going to get really bad for you.
Whatever it is, this is, this isa Dark World that the, the, the
predators that we need to be aware of when it comes to our
children are not guys that are lurking around in a dark alley.
That danger is in your kids backpack.

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It's in their pockets, it's in their phones, so being aware of
that is incredibly important forus as parents.
Do you think, I know you work with some AI that to fight
against human trafficking? Do you think the rise of AI is
going to help really to fight against human trafficking?
Because there's a two side to a coin.

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You know, they can use that AI, as you said, to attract kids and
we can use it as fight against human trafficking.
And what what is your take on that?
I I 100% agree that every advancement in technology can be
used for good and evil and yes the good guys can use it to

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start doing more tracking and and identify those who are most
likely contact offenders. We had a we had a sister
foundation that we worked with years ago who they had.
They have a piece of software that goes into the dark web.
These guys think that they're anonymous.

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Now this is going to make some of your guys sweat if they're if
they've got stuff on their computer, they're going to throw
it away today, you know, so gals, if your if your husband
hears this and throws this computer away, you know, maybe
there's a problem, right? So this software goes in these
guys thinking that they're anonymous on the dark web
because they're sharing files and you know, they'll go on.

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If you remember years ago when we had the, the, you know,
Napster, where we are, we are sharing movies, we are sharing
songs, you know, and you would say, hey, you know, I want, I
want to, I want Def Leppard, pour some sugar on me.
Boom, you send it out and 100 other computers will open up
their files and you'd get 1% from each of them and boom,

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you'd have your song downloaded.Wow, I've got free stuff.
It was illegal, guys, right? Well, guys are doing that same
thing on the dark web today. And in some of these file
sharing networks, they're going in and sharing horrific videos,
horrific pictures. And this software went in, goes

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in and it pretends like it's a, it's a perpetrator.
This is why this is so our guys don't have to look at these
pictures. It pretends like it's a
perpetrator and it goes and it sends out things saying, yeah,
can I get this picture? Can I get this video, whatever
else. And these guys thinking that
they're anonymous, they're part of this file sharing software,
their computer in this file sharing software, boom, opens up

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the folder and says, Hey, I've got that video right here.
So there's nothing unconstitutional.
They literally opened up within this software, opened up their
file and it said, oh, I have that video.
So boom, we know that computer has that video.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. We know all these computers that
opened up and, and and this software is able to do it in one

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month just with this software not catching everything in one
month. Identified in the United States
over 800,000 unique individuals who downloaded a child rape
video. That's a massive number, massive

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and, and, and it's identifying algorithms to figure out and
what it does. People are like, well, I masked
my VI, went through a VPN, so I'm masking my IP address.
Guess what guys? Your IP address is not the only
way to identify you. There's a global identifier
number attached to every single computer that doesn't change

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and, and boom, when it opens up and that file is there, it can
ping, it can identify the globalidentifier number of your
computer, of your phone. And then every time you log in
with that global identifier number anywhere else that boom,
it shows up again. So guys, you're thinking you're
anonymous. You're not.

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You're even in going through a, a AVPM, even going through your
tabs on your phone or your computer that says that you're
anonymous. You're not.
It has to go through somewhere either at your work.
It's going through your, your Wi-Fi that's there on your
carrier. Your carrier knows that you
watch those things and downloaded those things.

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Guys, be done with it. One click, you go to prison.
Yep. Right.
So I'm telling you what yes, AI is, is, is is allowing us to
identify things we can never identify before.
Go through massive amounts of information and find out who
these guys are. However, at the same time, yes,

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AI is being used by the bad guysas well to try to exploit and
and and and put fear into your kids and make them do things
that they shouldn't do. And they are getting a smarter,
they're getting a smarter. As we get a smarter, they're
getting a smarter. But prior to you coming out
actually saying, OK, I'm supporting the fight against

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human trafficking, you were undercover.
How did you take all those years, take the Dean, but not
talking about it? It's.
Tough it is. It is I, I, I, I took down my,
you know, my social media, all of that stuff.
And I, I, I, we had, there was myself and Dave, Dave Lopez,

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Andy, Jimmy, a bunch of operators who were doing a lot
of the work. We had one operator who he was a
former Homeland Security agent. He wanted to go public.
He wanted to be on CNN, ABC and have his face out there.
And we were totally good with that because somebody needed to
be the face of it. And so we, we put a lot of
credibility on him. In fact, even doing the movie,

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we had Jim Caviezel play the part of a Homeland Security
agent who did this stuff. The truth is a lot of those
missions were done by by a lot of operators who were involved
in some of them in different countries, etcetera.
We took about 8 different missions, put them all together
into one storyline. And so and, and he was talking

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publicly, but most of us couldn't.
Well, when the movie came out, right before the movie came out,
I, you know, we, we didn't have any distribution on the movie.
It was dead. We couldn't do anything at all.
Nobody would do distribute it. So my wife, my daughter, they're
like, Dad, you need to, you needto go public.
I'm like that. That makes it kind of dangerous.

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There's some really bad guys in prison because of me and some of
our operators, they said, no, this is our passion.
We have to, we have to make surethat humanity knows what's going
on. And the movie wasn't out at the
time. So I, I went on a podcast, got
shared 10s of thousands of timeswithin a the first week.

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And a couple months later, AngelStudios picked up the, the
contract on the, the distribution.
And now hundreds of millions of children are safer.
And so, but yeah, undercover that whole time, I, I, it was
hard. And Robbie, it was, it was dark,

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You know, seeing the darkest, most evil part of humanity was
really heavy for me and for a lot of my operators.
I had I had Green Berets with 300 missions in Afghanistan and

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one mission with me sing a menu,the children's faces on it and
the list of the theme lists thatthey would do at what price that
the trafficker was charging us. Those things are heavy and and

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we lost, we lost a lot of our undercover operators.
They would they just couldn't have one mission seeing stuff
like that. They're done.
Their their PTSD was already a full tilt.
And you know, sadly, globally inthe, in the United States, we
have over 20 veterans a day who are committing suicide because

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of they're dealing with so much darkness that PTSD, etcetera.
And so, you know, that's something to to recognize as
well is how to fix that. And beyond that, we as humanity
need to each take a look in the mirror and say, what do we need

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to do to show up differently to fix this problem as a whole?
This isn't, this isn't just a problem that's going to be fixed
by AI. This isn't a problem that's
going to be fixed by law enforcement.
And this isn't a problem that's going to be fixed by undercover
agents, right? This is something that that
every single person has to ask themselves how they're
contributing to the negativity in the world.

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Now, Hopefully nobody listening to us today would ever hurt a
child. Me and my operators, some of
some of my operators had significant childhood trauma
themselves and they use that as a motivation to go out and fight
evil in any way that they could.However, some people allow that
same childhood trauma of their own to come out in low self

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esteem, addictions, anger issues, and in some cases
passing on that trauma in the form of verbal abuse, physical
abuse, and, and, and, and in other ways abusing children.
And so it's so important that weeach take responsibility for our

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own ship. That's the truth, you know, and
for me, I had to recognize, I I thought, I thought that that
traffickers when I went in and Isaw my first traffickers, I
thought these guys would have tattoos on their necks and, and,
and earrings in their noses. Right now.
The first traffickers I met were, were businessmen, clean

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cut, you know, polo shirt. And I'm like, wow, these aren't
traffickers. And I realized, no, the common
thread over the that 10 years ofundercover, the common thread
with all the traffickers and theperpetrators was arrogance and
greed and lust and addictions and unhealed childhood trauma.

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These are all things that all ofus deal with in some way.
I had to look in the mirror and ask myself, Paul, how has your
unhealed wounds, how has your arrogance, greed and lust showed
up in your life? Yes, you're doing things to help
the kids, but what do you need to do to change how you show up
for your own kids in your marriage, for the people at your

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work? Is arrogance and greed something
that is affecting them in a negative way, and is it
contributing to the negativity in humanity that is creating
things like wars and domestic abuse and child trafficking?
This is so deep, Paul, this is so deep.

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And I understand, you know, I'm myself, you know, I'm an ex
military to understand, you know, and it's so close to home.
Like when you see you go to the mission, but this mission with
the kids is going to change yourlife.
And they come back then. Yeah, some of them, they can't

(33:15):
take it. They cannot do it.
I'm sure you had so many people,as you said, that said, yeah, I
thought I can, I can do it, but I can't.
They had kids at home. It's hard.
It's it's really hard to cope with that because you come out
of it and you're going to be a different person.
Your perspective changes really your perspective.

(33:36):
You know, right now I go to groceries.
I'm aware of my surrounding whatkids with who, who is holding
what hands is look at the kids face is the kids is
uncomfortable or what's going toyou start seeing things it it
comes to you and I think the best way we can fight it as you
said, is education. Really we have to educate the

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mass. What are the symptoms?
What are the signs? The trafficker as you said might
be your janitor in your building.
We don't know. It might be a very normal person
when you talk to your Co worker.We don't know that, but how are
we going to get to that point that everybody educated about

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this problem? That's the different stories.
Well, what's interesting, Robbie, is back at the time of
Abraham Lincoln, it wasn't. It wasn't people like me and my
operators that made the biggest difference.
It wasn't the people rescuing the slaves, you know, before the

(34:41):
Civil War that they didn't make the biggest difference, that the
people that made the biggest difference were people like you.
They were influencers with audiences.
So like, like Harriet Beecher Stowe, she wrote a book called
Uncle Tom's Cabin, which was thepodcasts of the age, right?
It's where good people were ableto get educated as to what was

(35:04):
going on in the South. In fact, years later, when
Abraham Lincoln met her, he shook her head.
He says. So you're the little lady that
wrote the book that started the big war.
So today, you know, we're not looking to start a war like the
Civil War. We are looking to start a war
against things like child trafficking and and it's going

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to take awareness with good people throughout the world as
to what's going on truly in their own neighborhoods and in
other countries and what we can do to come together to fight
this evil. And during the movie, I know you
work with Jim, which is the perfect, I think, you know, I
love, I love the guy. And he's like play the person of

(35:51):
interest that Jesus cross. And I think he was a perfect.
Don't you think he was a perfectperson to to act that role as a
temp? Absolutely.
Absolutely. I know.
Yeah, he did. Did you have any conversation
with him? Oh, I had a lot.
Yeah. We, we, Jim and I went, we went
on a motorcycle trip for a few weeks all throughout Nevada.

(36:14):
We went to the motorcycle rally together.
We, we went to, we went to Hawaii on some business.
We, we spent time in, in France.We actually went to France
together over the 75th anniversary of the Normandy and
spent some time there in France.And, and of course on the, on
the set of the movie. We spent a lot of time there.

(36:36):
In fact, I, it's funny, I tell people, I tell people that
Jesus, Jesus told me to buy a Harley because we were sitting
there at dinner. It was just me and him one night
and we were after filming and hewas going through a bunch of
pictures on his phone of some his motorcycle and stuff like

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that. And then he goes to this
motorcycle. It's beautiful.
This is some black, it's a Street Glide.
It is gorgeous it. And he says, Paul, he says, this
is the most beautiful bike I've ever seen.
He says this, this millionaire bought it and put like fifteen,
$20,000 extra into it after he bought it.
But then his doctor told him he couldn't ride it because of his

(37:17):
back. And so he literally hasn't rode
it hardly at all. Only a few miles and it's back
at the dealership. And then then Jim Caviezel turns
to me. He goes, now Paul, you have, you
have a Harley, don't you? I'm like, no, no, I I've I've
got a bullet bike. I've got some off road bikes.
I don't have a Harley. And then he goes into his Jesus
voice. Paul, you need to buy this

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Harley, right? He picks up his his phone and he
dials the Ventura, CA dealership.
He goes, hey, this is Jim Taviso.
You still have that Harley that that millionaire brought in the
black. They're like, oh, yeah, yeah,
we, we just got the paperwork this morning for it.
And we have two people that havecome in and looked at it, but
nobody is nobody has closed it yet.
And Jim's like, I have a cash buyer right here and hands me

(38:01):
the phone. OK so literally 10 minutes after
hearing about this bike in Columbia filming the movie, he
hands me the phone and I I give him my Amex and buy this Harley
sight unseen. Haven't delivered to my house by
the time I got home, but. Now you have the Harley.
Yeah, yeah, that's the Harley that we went and travelled

(38:22):
around with, with Jim on a few trips and stuff.
I I ended up selling it just last year.
We, I haven't spent that much time in the United States since
the movie came out. We spent a lot of time working
on safe houses for the children,working on governments
everywhere and helping them change laws and policies to keep
the children safe and, and running some fully immersive

(38:47):
transformational healing retreatexperiences for adults who are
dealing with anxiety, depression, PTSD, addictions,
etcetera. So we run those in Latin
America. So I, I, I literally admire.
I have a ranch in halfway between Denver and Salt Lake,
and I've spent one day, not evenone day there in the last year.

(39:07):
So I'd like, you know what? I probably should sell some of
my toys since I'm not even there.
Paul, how you, it's very interesting how your lifestyle
changed because you know, you'retop of the mountain, you got
everything and you made all the money, you have all the fame,
everything you want, and now you're going all in.

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And he said, I don't want to have that boat.
I don't want to have this. I don't want to have a Harley,
you know, and that shift, that shift, that mindset shift is not
easy to do for a lot of people because we have the sense, that
sense of attachment that. We, we.

(39:48):
We. Have that.
Maybe you have some advice for the people that they really they
have money, but they're not happy.
They said I got to do something to make me happy.
I got to do what? I don't know what they're going
to do, but how did you shift that?
Well, this is a powerful story. Probably this is the biggest one

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of all of them for me in my life.
Even more than that than seeing that first child etcetera.
So I had banned almost three years of doing undercover work
and and I wasn't, you know, understand this 10 years ago, I
wasn't Paul Hutchinson. I was, pardon my French.
I was Paul fucking Hutchinson, right?

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I had, I had built a multi billion dollar company.
I had 4000 employees. This is why I was recruited to
help with the undercover work is, you know, I had a special
set of skills that made me somewhat safe in a dangerous
place. But but more importantly than
that, they needed somebody with a big ego, with big money that
was down there that, that, that I had pictures of me with Lambos

(40:53):
and Ferraris and jets and yachtsand all this crap.
And, and so the undercover operators would take these
pictures and show the traffickers and then, and then
the traffickers would. Yeah, yeah, we'll, we'll pull
together a party for this guy and boom, they would call the
other traffickers. And this is how they would bring
in massive amounts of kids. That first rescue was over 120

(41:14):
children because these guys werewere were doing so based on
their thought that I was a Jeffrey Epstein type of a
scenario, right? And so moving forward three
years into it, yeah, we were making a massive difference in
the lives of these kids. But I was still in that ego
space. I was still tied to all this

(41:36):
stuff and sadly these undercovermissions, they were adding to
that ego space right now. I now I had the best, pardon my
French again, I had the best panty dropper story on the
planet, right? So I you know, I would have
these parties with half dressed girls and and NBA players and
NFL players and I my house understand this.

(41:57):
At the time around me I had I had a a massive lifestyle.
At one point I had two helicopters and a plane.
I had AI had a house with 10 bathrooms, 8 private suites, 3
kitchens, 7 fireplaces and a basketball court in my basement.
And I wasn't happy even doing the undercover work I was I was

(42:21):
just unhappy in my interpersonalrelationships, everything else.
Now let me set the stage with talking about some science.
So when were children, when we're little kids, zero to 8-9
years old, our, our brain is in a state of, of neuroplasticity.
We're very, very impressionable.We can, we can, we can learn 3

(42:42):
or 4 languages at the same time that we're learning how to walk
and we're learning how to, how to eat, we're learning how to
play. And all of these things are all
the same time. Now, in that neuroplasticity
state, that hyper impressionablestate, if something happens,
we're, we're, we're, we're rapedby our uncle where even, you
know, our dad says something. You know that you're you, you're

(43:05):
not going to be smart enough to do that.
Whatever it is. These things get implanted into
our subconscious mind and we spend our whole life trying to
fill holes that are almost an insatiable hole to fill or we're
trying to cover up for some painthat was there.
And it comes out in anger issuesand addiction issues and low

(43:26):
self esteem and and anxiety and depression, etcetera, etcetera.
And so we're all trying to go through this life holding on to
all that trauma of our past. And 95% of our life is driven by
that subconscious mind. So after 9 or 10 years old, to
get something new into our subconscious mind, it takes 21

(43:48):
days to create a new habit. So I had developed a company in
my early 20s that help people overcome anxiety, depression,
PTSD, addictions, childhood trauma, that's I have 50,000
people a month calling in off ofan infomercial.
We provided a personal coaching program for them to help them
breakthrough that. That company I sold for a lot of
money when I was 29 years old. That's what helped me start

(44:10):
investing in real estate etcetera and beyond.
And and so I know that space of we had a cognitive restructuring
program, something that through our workbooks and our audio
programs etcetera. But then the massive success
that I got added on to my own problems with this massive ego
etcetera. So that's kind of the stage
setting. This is where I was 10 years ago

(44:33):
and and I got a phone call from 2 of my undercover operators
that changed my life even more than first thing trafficking.
And we were blowing through operators.
Like I say, we had, you know, Green Berets and stuff that one
mission with us and they're done.
So Andy and Jimmy called me together.
Andy had done 22 missions, Jimmyhad done 13.

(44:56):
And they said, Paul, we think you should come with us to this
healing retreat. I'm like healing.
I don't need to heal. I'm Paul Effen Hutchinson.
Everybody wants to be me. They're like, no, you're on your
second marriage, headed for a divorce.
Your kids don't talk to you. You think that happiness is

(45:19):
going to come from another girl,another car, even another rescue
mission and yours is still emptyinside.
And they, they had a doctor thatwas a trained, she was a
therapist and a trained facilitator in the, and this is
super important. This is going to, this is going

(45:39):
to set some people back. Some listeners are going to be
like, oh, wait, OK. I'm just going to tell you she
had trained for years on the proper use of psychedelics when
it comes to helping people breakfree of their own childhood
trauma. I'm talking things like
psilocybin. Yeah, some people have used like

(45:59):
ketamine and things like this. And no, at the time it was 10
years ago. I'm like, wait a minute,
psilocybin, that's like mushrooms, right?
That's, that's a schedule 1 drugthat's as dangerous as cocaine,
right? Well, here's the truth.
And guys, you can do your own research on this.
And this is important for us to pay attention to this because
within the next couple years, these things will be

(46:22):
decriminalized in the US according to RFK and Trump and
others. And it's important that we as
adults understand the proper useversus the improper use and how
dangerous they can be in the wrong hands and how helpful they
can be in the right hands. So, so psilocybin.
The truth is, not only is it notdangerous like cocaine, it is

(46:45):
literally safer than table sugar.
You would have to take 70 kilos of it before it became lethal.
That's more than how much sugar would become lethal, right?
70 kilos in one one sitting. There's never been a case of
addiction. There's never been a case of
overdose. Not one ever.

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And when used properly to createa situation, what it does is it
creates a temporary state of neuroplasticity.
Remember we were talking about what happens when you're 0 to
910 years old, what where your subconscious mind is very, very
impressionable. So what can happen is this kind

(47:28):
of like like reliquifying something that's that's
permanent, right? Imagine, imagine a freeway where
you you lay the freeway with this concrete and nobody smooths
it out and there's a bunch of bumps and you're going through
life with those bumps that are just wrecking your car every
time you drive on it. What if you could re liquefy

(47:48):
that for about 8 hours, turn it back into a state where you can
take something over it and create that smooth surface that
you really need to drive on, right?
That's what happens within a full, not at micro dose.
I'm talking a ceremonial dose ofpsilocybin, something like 3 to
6g where you need help to walk to the bathroom, right?

(48:09):
No, if you're doing it in the wrong environment.
Let's say that somebody is at a a rave party with their friends
and they get high on mushrooms, right?
You've got this state of neuroplasticity where you've got
your highly impressionable in a place where you've got music
with lyrics that are not very good for your subconscious mind.

(48:32):
You've got some guy, you know, having sex with some girls over
here. You've got somebody yelling at
their girlfriend over here. Whatever it is, you're in the
state of neuroplasticity that isdamaging to your subconscious
mind. However, if you're using a
playlist with frequency music put together by the scientists
at John Hopkins University, you have the right environment in

(48:54):
the nature or whatever. You have a doctor that is there
or a train facilitator and I, I've now become a trained
facilitator. I have facilitated over 75
guided meditation, breath work, plant medicine, healing retreat
experiences in the last eight years.
My daughter became a shaman and and we're really, really good at

(49:18):
understanding how to use it right now.
Let me back up for two seconds and tell you about my first
experience, right? I told my friends, I said,
listen, I don't, I don't know about this whole, you know, drug
thing. And they said, bro, it's not
drugs. It's exactly the opposite.
There's no cases of addiction. I'm like, OK, I trust you guys,
let's go. We talked with the facilitator.
She came to understand this massive ego self that that was

(49:42):
on my second marriage head for adivorce and my kids not talking
to me and all this negative energy and, and the fact that I
had lost my relationship with God many years before.
And so in this state, you know, she does that, we do that, we
have the music going on. We we start with clear

(50:04):
intentions, etcetera. And then I had the most
beautiful, horrific experience of my life.
Horrific because the medicine showed me pure empathy, a pure

(50:25):
connection to every person that I had associated with in my
life. And I could feel their hearts as
if I was them. And I could feel in every cell
of my body. I could feel the pain that my
children felt when I cheated on their mom.

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And it was so heavy. It was so dark.
I could feel the pain of the children who were abused that we
helped to rescue. And then I felt their joy that
the ripple effect of my actions and their joy as they were
reunited with their families. And then, then I felt the pain

(51:09):
of the families that broke apartbecause some guy was at my party
and slept with a cheerleader. And now his wife left him.
And then I felt the ripple effect of that action and, and
seeing the potential future of his daughter now being in a
fatherless home and her getting raped or, or the son getting
involved with, with drugs or whatever.

(51:30):
And the the ripple effect of my actions.
It felt like Satan himself had his foot on my chest and I was
600 miles in the dirt and the facilitator chained, knowing I
was kind of working through thischange.
The that the music changed to this frequency of this song that
if I felt like God's hand was just lifting me out of the pit

(51:52):
of hell. And I could feel all of this
tar, all of this shit, all of this stuff of, of things that I
had done, of things that I had done to me.
Everything was just releasing from me in this state of
neuroplasticity, right? And then, and then the
facilitator, she, we, we were sitting there kind of processing

(52:14):
what had gone through. We were talking about it and
there were some Greek gods this,this statues that were on the,
the mantle. There was Poseidon and Zeus and,
and, and Atlas was holding the world on his shoulders.
And I told her, I says, you know, I feel a lot like Atlas.
I, I was still a little bit in my ego space, right?
And it's just like, I feel like Atlas, I've, I've got thousands

(52:35):
of employees. I've got I feel like I have the
world on my shoulders, but look how strong God made me.
You know, I pointed at the stomach of this this statue and
she smiles. She's listening quietly to my
ego self. And she said, Paul, she said, I,
I honor you for seeing some strengths in those statues.

(52:56):
She says, but you know as well as I do that those were
mythological gods. She said, what about your
relationship with him? And I had a picture of, of
Jesus. I called him Yeshua now, because
that's what his real name was when he was on earth.
And and I said, oh, I said, I don't, I don't qualify for a

(53:21):
relationship with him. Well, she said, well, why not?
I said, well, you know, I've, I've said I have these parties.
I have multiple girls. I have, I said plus, you know,
years, a little years ago when I, when I left the Church of my

(53:42):
youth and I grew up in Utah and I, I left the church there about
20 years before. I says, when, when I left the
Church of my youth, I, I was told by my Bishop until I was re
baptized into that church, I wouldn't have the Spirit of God
with me. And she said, do you really
think that that's true? And I, I'm like, well, no, I, I

(54:04):
try to do good. I, I actually, you know, feel
his guidance when we're helping with these kids and the
undercover work, she goes, why don't you work on that
relationship for a while? So, you know, here I'm, I'm on
my mushrooms. I'm barely walk right.
And I stand up and I try to takedown this statue and she, she

(54:26):
helps me pull it down off the mantle.
And I sit on the bean bag for the next two hours holding this
statue. Re establishing a relationship
with my brother that I hadn't had in many, many, many years,
maybe my whole life. And so from there, it was so

(54:47):
profound, that experience for me.
I started studying the the different plant medicines,
became a facilitator. We brought a bunch of my
undercover operators through that healing retreat, releasing
years of PTSD. And we brought in women who had

(55:10):
dealt with severe childhood trauma. 10 and 20 years worth of
therapy weren't fixing anything.And within three or four days
they were able to get more out of that than 20 years worth of
therapy. And so, you know, it's a
beautiful tool, but it needs to be used with guided meditation
and breath work and a guided facilitator and miraculous

(55:33):
changes. And so, so anyway, that was that
was my massive breakthrough manyyears ago.
And that brought me to a point where everything changed.
Everything changed, even how I did undercover work, how I
showed up in my personal life and I cleaned up all of that.

(55:56):
Now I'm in, and now I'm in an incredibly healthy marriage,
actually met my wife in Haiti. We I tell people, meeting a
beautiful Colombian actress is kind of cool, but when she's
donating her time in an orphanage in Haiti, well, that's
really cool. Amazing, Paul.
And this, let's call it a soul cleansing.

(56:20):
I, I called it a soul. I you know, I actually I was
thinking to do that the same formyself because I suffer from
PTSD is still, you know, I can'tgo out there and force of your
life. I know a lot.
Of people do I got to be home and with the dogs and watch TV,
but how that changed your relationship with others.

(56:42):
Imagine that this is fucking bigPaul out there making money
because you haven't. You have a net for that.
The people that come on, you know when the honey, the bees
are coming, you got all that people around you.
How did you after this breakthrough?
How did you break and cleanse those relationships?

(57:06):
Well, I had to. You had to cut off.
Something I did my as my frequency increased, I, I had
to, I, I was, I was very close friends with the, the Homeland
Security agent who we had workedwith in that previous
foundation. I was married to a girl named
Rosio. We actually named the little
girl in the movie after her. And but you know, she was doing

(57:29):
a lot of those parties. She was helping putting them on
and, you know, other friends that I was in a business with,
some guys that, you know, I remember him bragging about the
prostitute he was with the nightbefore.
And I, as I started just breaking free of that low
frequency energy that I was involved with, it created a

(57:51):
division between me and those people who were choosing to stay
in that space. And there were people involved
with the movie. There were actors involved with
the movie. There were other people that
were involved in helping to fundit.
There were people involved with my some of my child rescue work
that some of them were part of this transformation with me,

(58:13):
guys like Andy and Jimmy and Jeremy and, and Glenn Devitt and
Dave Lopez. And these were powerful
undercover operators with good hearts that that went through
their own dark nights of the soul with me.
And then and then transformed everything.
It came to this incredible, beautiful space of
transformation. And so we had to break ties.

(58:34):
I, I, I ended up breaking ties with some of those operators.
One of them, you know, he has 30plus women with sexual
allegations against him today. And, and I'm super grateful that
I, I broke free of that years ago.
My, my wife at the time, she ended up going down a dark road

(58:56):
and ended up getting arrested for some, some things in her
life, etcetera. I'm so grateful that I broke
free of, of that. And, and for me, I learned in
that space the interconnectedness not only with
God, but with all of humanity. And I, I, I, I started

(59:18):
meditating. And as I get into my meditative
space, one of the tools that I use to get into that, that deep
meditation is I imagine the the infinite unconditional love of
God flowing through my, my crownchakra coming down into my mind,
cleansing my mind of distractingthoughts coming into my heart.

(59:41):
And I feel this infinite love ofGod expanding my heart in every
direction. And I, I feel this love flowing
through me from God. And then I feel it connecting
with my family, with my friends,with my team.
And then I feel this infinite love flowing out to all of
humanity, connecting me heart toheart with all of my brothers

(01:00:04):
and sisters. And I have to feel that that
unconditional love, regardless of where they are and, and
recognizing that my actions are truly having an effect on them.
And so that, that interconnectedness with all
things and with, with, with humanity is something that I do
everyday in, in that meditation.And it's incredibly beautiful to

(01:00:30):
be able to start tuning in to that, that voice of truth that
we all have access to. Every one of us has that divine
light within us. Every one of us is connected
with each other, with God And, and, and recognizing that is
something that that made me moveon from just the child

(01:00:53):
liberation foundation into creating, liberating humanity,
because that's what it's about. All of us liberating ourselves
from those things that don't belong to us.
I I love the, I love the story of the man sitting on a couch
and his, his little boy comes in.
His little boy's like, daddy, daddy, I want to, I want to play
baseball. And the daddy's like, oh, you

(01:01:13):
know, I'm busy right now, littleboy.
A little while later, Dad, Dad, please, please, let's play
baseball today. It's a pretty day outside.
And the dad's like, yeah. And he turns the page and
there's a, there's a picture of the, on the newspaper of a, of a
map of the world. So he tears out this map, tears
it up in a little piece of paperand he throws it on the floor.
He goes, son, you need to learn your geography.

(01:01:36):
Go get some tape, tape together every single, every single
country exactly where they need to go.
And if you do that, I'll go playbaseball with you.
Well, he thought it would take afew hours.
It was like 5 minutes later thislittle boy comes back and it's
taped together perfectly. And the dad's like, what did
your mom help you with that? And how, how did you do that?

(01:01:57):
And the little boy's like, no, there there was a picture of a
man on the other side. And I just put the man together
and the whole world came together.
That's really the answer for allof us.
We can go out there and try to go rescue kids.
We can go try to change the world.
We can try to, you know, outward, outward, whatever.
But until we pay attention to the man or woman in the mirror,

(01:02:22):
once we do that inner work, and then that ripple effect of
goodwill indeed help change the world.
I believe that you have to really connect with yourself and
change yourself first. Those events can be a motivated,
but at the end of the day, as you said, it's all about us, how
we look at ourselves in the mirror and what we have done.
Why Paul Hutchinson is so vulnerable?

(01:02:45):
Because I'm listening to you right now.
The whole conversation, you justbeing vulnerable and you telling
the truth. And no fucking person.
Most of us don't do that. Yeah.
Because we think that, oh, I'm not going to be weak.
I'm not going to say, but you'vebeen so vulnerable.
Why, Paul? Why?
Because in that vulnerability, God makes me strong.

(01:03:07):
I've recognized that the only way for humanity to heal is for
all of us to take a look at our own weaknesses and admit them.
You know, so many guys are like,oh, I don't want to.
I don't want to talk about that.That thing that happened to me
when I was 8, you know, by my uncle, that was, you know, if I
do, people are going to think I'm less of a man.

(01:03:28):
No, you won't. No, it won't.
You, you were eight. That was a horrible thing that
happened by somebody that was holding on to a lot of trauma.
And you know, part of what we doat our retreats, we have people
come down for full seven day fully immersive transformational
experiences. And, and one of the things that
we do is we take them through a deep meditation, going from

(01:03:50):
their beta into their alpha intotheir Theta state, almost into a
Delta State in their meditation.And in that space, I do what I
call a Oh, Pono Pono, which is a, it's a Hawaiian term for this
prayer of forgiveness and release, not only in, in
releasing that, that negative chords and ties with people who

(01:04:12):
have wronged us, but even a pastversion of ourselves that isn't
aligning with the best versions of us now.
And you know, I, I talk about a lot of that in, in the the sound
of Freedom book, You know, the, the movie sound of freedom
created massive awareness with good people everywhere, but not
a lot of tools in the, in the sound of Freedom book, The whole

(01:04:34):
first quarter of the book, the first section is all about, I
call it the making of an undercover operator.
But these are tools that parentscan use, understanding
situational awareness, how to read a room, how to, how to look
for signs of potential challenges with the children,
etcetera. Understanding the, the role of
charity and how to create value in the world around you,
etcetera. To the point where we were able

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to, to move forward and, and help in the undercover work.
And then of course, the, the stories of the rescue missions
themselves and taking the, the, the reader through this
emotional transformation that I went through.
But the last six chapters is allabout liberating humanity and
what we each can do to keep our children safe, to keep ourselves

(01:05:18):
safe to, to transform ourselves in a way where we're not
carrying this toxicity, releasing those things that
don't serve us, learning how to be authentic in our
relationships and our communications in a way that can
help other people say, hey, you know what?
Yeah, I, I, I can see that in me.
And those are things that I needto release as well.
Those things don't serve the highest and best version of me.

(01:05:41):
So it's time. It's time to get rid of those
things that aren't in alignment,Release all of those things that
are that are creating this trauma transfer where somebody
else is being negatively affected by you not fixing what
you need to fix yourself. Amen.
Amen. Paul.
When the book is going to be out, it's going.

(01:06:01):
To come out July 3rd, July 29th,so you know, hopefully.
Pre-ordered it last night. Awesome.
Thank you. Thank you.
Yeah, July 29th it's coming out and you know people can
pre-order it on liberatinghumanity.com.
You can also get information on things to do to keep your kids
safe and your safe self. You can get information on

(01:06:23):
healing there etcetera. Or of course, you can pre-order
the Sound of Freedom book there on liberating humanity.
Or you can follow me on any social media on just liberating
humanity on Instagram and Facebook.
And I think X I'm my name Paul Hutchinson.
But but there's a there's a lot of lot of good information that
I've been pushing out. Just trying to do my best as a

(01:06:47):
tool in God's hands to help. Humanity, you're doing an
amazing work, Paul. I appreciate what you do or what
you have done and add actually to this Dark World and to try to
lighten and the whole thing for all of us.
I wish we had more people like you.
Thank you. And you know, just keep going,
keep grinding, keep doing it. And you know, we are here to

(01:07:09):
support you any way we can. And the last question, do you
have any regrets? I have no, you know, I, I look
back at those things in my life thinking I was out of integrity.
But you know what? Everything, everything brought
me to where I am today. In the in my meditations, I also

(01:07:31):
teach the importance of the highfrequency of gratitude.
Gratitude for all that is, all that was, and all that will be.
And in that, in that loving space of infinite unconditional
love and that high frequency of gratitude, we're able to
navigate the road ahead. And I, I believe that gratitude

(01:07:56):
for things that have not, you have not achieved yet in your
life, that gratitude for those things that you're bringing into
your life is the purest form of faith.
And, but it can only come when you realize that the past was
perfect, that it got you to where you are today and, and
expressing gratitude for it all.And so I'm grateful for that and

(01:08:19):
grateful for the, the, the good men and women with the Child
Liberation Foundation. People can go to
childliberation.org and get somemore information there on how
they can help donate and be a part of that mission as well.
And so incredibly grateful, grateful for you and your
audience and for everybody who is listening to us today.

(01:08:42):
And I believe, I believe in you,every person that's listening,
that you can release all those things that don't serve you.
And together, we can create a brighter future for ourselves
and our future generations. This is at least what I can do
to help them spread the word forthe good stuff that you guys,

(01:09:03):
you know you have done and keep going and as you said, people
get involved. Paul, thank you for being here.
I really appreciate it and please, if you come to Austin,
you know I. Would love.
That be our guest. This is your home.
You know, I always said my interview people, I just add
another great person that I can count on, I can call get advice,

(01:09:27):
come to your sessions. I'd love to do that.
I want to actually do more more recall.
I want to do more digging on that.
And I was always thinking to do that and be honest with you and
I'm very serious about that to come and just kind of we can
talk in private more, but we allhave our challenges, but I think
that's the time that would be and every person comes to your

(01:09:49):
life. There is a reason God has
planned for you that we don't know.
We don't know. I believe that there is a
reason. You and I, we talk and I don't
know what is a God's plan? What is God's plan for us?
I don't know, but I know that I believe him.
Thank you so much, Paul. Thank you for being here.

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