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December 3, 2022 102 mins

On this episode of Talking With The Source with Robin away Nando Desario from Portal To The Paranormal stepped in with AJ to talk with Ken Allen. Ken is a Professional Practitioner Of Occult Sciences. He hails from Florida.

Leveraging years of study and practice in Seiðr, Voodoo, Hoodoo together with his Muskogee First nations magick, he has assisted his community in administering guidance, counselling and comfort through a "whatever it takes attitude" to get it done. His practice includes performing healing rituals, conjure, ceremonies and Chaos Magick etc.

A professional although admittedly an unorthodox Occultist that has been a practitioner of the ancient Arts of magick in one form or another since the age of 11.

Ken is a ceremonial Magician practicing Solomonic magick grimoire based magick, Chaos magick, invocation as well as evocation magick.

Ken practices Rune magick, house blessings and cleansing.

Ken is a Demonolater and a practitioner of Goetic magick.

He also works with the Demons Orobas, Stolas and Bune.

Ken also has a Djinn spirit that has been his guide since the age of 6 years old. His Djinn is his guardian. Ken is primarily a magician of LHP (left hand path) magick and philosophy.

Ken is well known for speaking his mind unapologetically!

A very approachable guy who is willing to help any and all in need.

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What's going on everybody? This is AJ Capasso, host of Talking With The Source. I'm here with my good friend.
You're right. My name is Nando and I'm from Porto to the Paranormal here based in the UK. Hope everyone's doing well. Hey AJ, how you doing?

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Yes, I just want to say that Robin has exited his cocoon and he has now turned into Nando. I did trade him. I upgraded. I went from one person in the UK to the next. So it's great. You know what I mean? It's totally great. No, I'm just joking. I'm just joking. Robin's not here right now.
I was trying to get the accent for today but I thought I'm not going to try it because I don't want Robin coming back at me and going, what are you trying to do? So, you know, but I try and do my best to help out today.

(01:44):
Well, hey, at least you didn't go, it's Nando. Like when Robin goes, it's Robin. I can't do it. I can't do that. No, not at all. So we'll leave that with him.
But anyway, man, listen, the first thing I want to do, I just want to shout out quick to my brother over there, Brian Laverty, Huntedphobia Canada. Go shout him out. He's the founder of ParaPost, which we are live on right now. We're also live on Paralynx right now.

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Brian is also the founder of Global Ghost Hunt. If you have a team or you are a researcher and you want to come and be a part of a great event, a 10-day event, go to www.globalghosthunt.com and find out all the information. It's absolutely amazing what's going to happen this coming year.
But right now we have an amazing guest. He is absolutely awesome. He's unapologetically truthful. So get ready for tonight because this is going to be an explicit and my happily, happily explicit show with Ken Allen, who is the professional, who I would like to say professional practitioner of occult sciences, researcher, and also podcast host for The Wizard's Guide.

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So, before we get to the show, we're going to go for the wizard's table. Let's bring him on. Ken Allen. What's up, baby? I'm doing pretty **** good, Nando. Nando Carrizian like on Star Wars and **** baby. Up in this **** Yeah. Take a sip, honey. What you drinking, baby? Me? I've just got some some juice, man. I don't lie about that **** **** You got me. You're in England. You got

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me. You got me. No, nothing in there. It's both podcasts. What's up, brothers? What's up, brothers? What's up, Ken? What's up? Yeah. Um Ken, I just want to say thank you so much for coming on. It's so quickly too. Uh I really appreciate
that. Um you were just like, hey, how's Thursday? I'm like, you know, you don't want to know what? Let's do Thursday. I was like, that sounds great. Oh yeah. Thursdays are good for me, man. Thursdays are always good for me. So, any

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questions? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. So, if you could, man, tell the viewers a little bit about yourself. Um explain, you know, a little bit about how you got into the field and everything and uh a little bit, you
know, just about yourself. Sure. You know, I always feel like a douche bag whenever I go through this **** but okay. Um so, I was uh my mother, my mother was Sicilian.

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She passed away. We crossed over. She passed away in July of this year. Um which was pretty **** devastating for me. Very **** devastating. Thank you. Um but she was a practitioner of uh Italian folk magic and of course, her
mother and her mother's mother. I've told this story a thousand times. That's why I feel like a douche bag saying it again because it feels like I feel like it's all about me, me, me, me, me but I

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don't know if you want to hear a different version if you'd like. It's totally fine. I just wanted to give our viewers a little bit of understanding if they didn't understand, you know. Yeah, yeah. So, um the Italian folk magic
commonly called Strega was very prominent in my family on my mother's side. Now, Appalachian folk magic which is on my father's side. He is actually part uh Irish in part uh Muscogee Creek Native American. Um

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he's a very American dichotomy ****
He must have done something right, baby.
Anyway, um what's up, Raymond? So, uh between my father coming from uh practitioners of Appalachian commonly called granny, granny magic. It's a thing. If y'all **** don't know, look it up and **** and my mother

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was a
Um that's where I got my first uh taste of the occult. I guess I guess you could say uh but you gotta realize Strega or Sicilian slash Italian folk magic is **** replete with a lot of Catholicism. A lot of Catholicism. And you know, it was cool for me after a while but then I was like, ah, it's gotten me more out there. I want more. I need more.

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I need more. I need power. I need money. I need success. Oh, there's the demons.
Yeah. Honey bunnies, sugar plums, love it.
I'm gonna go anyway. But what attracted you to him? Like, what what was it about it? Just the power, the money, the stuff like that? I'm not gonna lie to you, baby. It was the power. It was the money. You know, it was it was having power. It was having, I'm like **** Cersei Lannister in a man's body with a nine inch, 12 inch dick because I'm Italian. Uh you know, that's that's what that **** was like, baby. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. So, go ahead. Yeah, that's it. No, yeah. So, I just wanna make you a little bigger because you're a little dark in the bottom. So, I just wanna have so people can see it. Um I'm always dark honey. Hey, that's alright. That's alright. Um I wanna I wanna say though, what what like what made you go that way? Like, what made you go like uh you know, the darkness like along that way where you want to be like about demons, you know, like what was it about the power? Why did you need the power? Why did you need that?

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I mean, I'm not gonna go into anything specific that maybe want or need it. It was just look also, I don't give a **** You you may meet Italians. You may meet Sicilians, anybody from that **** region and they may be whatever the **** fluff bunnies. Let me tell you. It's in our **** DNA. All Sicilians and all Italians want money and we want **** power. I mean, that's **** mafia ties, baby. I'm not

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gonna lie. I've had that **** No, I I I understand. I know. No, listen, I understand. I understand. Uh my father's so I get it. You know, um my name is Anthony Capasso. Anthony. I thought so.
Anthony. Anthony. Uh so, yeah. **** Sopranos, baby. Right? So, and just to ask him, um if you don't mind me asking AJ, right? Yeah. We all sound like we all have Italian backgrounds. Now, um where me being from Italy, we were brought up Catholic and everything like that.

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So, did you find a heart coming from a culture where they didn't agree with things like the demons and do you know, do you get what I'm saying? Like, with the culture that I was brought up in, it was about gods, heaven, and then you're coming in. If you don't mind me
saying like saying it as it is, you're coming in from a darker side of the paranormal. You're coming in the dark side from a religious point of view. You know, did you find that you got a bit of backlash because you're coming in at a different angle?

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I mean, it's not that difficult. If you and if you don't want to answer that because I know that's quite personal. I get it but you know, just from me being brought up in an Italian background and very Catholic background as well, you must have had some backlash coming in from a
different angle to what people are usually to preach if you get what I'm saying. I get what you're saying. You dude, you can ask me anything I could. II'm not ashamed to tell you that how many feet I came the last time I shot my load. Um but uh so,

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I mean, with regards to what you just said, I had to keep that **** hidden coming from an Italian background, strictly Catholic and of course, my father being from the Appalachian area. He was strictly Baptist slash Pentecostal.
So, I had to keep that **** secret for a long time but you know, once I moved out, it was no holds barred. I didn't give a **** whatever and of course, getting my mother like all Sicilian women support their child, support their son no matter **** what they're doing.

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In fact, me and my mother sat on uh her back porch one day talking about demons and **** and she was making comparison to Strega and the archangel Strega and certain saints in the Catholic Church and how how much uh similarities there are between the two and she was asking me, well, what can I uh cuz this **** she said, because this **** at work is pissing me off. What can this one do? You know, so uh once I turned 18, 19 and I moved out of the house, it wasn't a problem. Prior to that, I

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was a kid. I kept that **** secret. Nobody didn't **** know nothing baby which was kind of kind of fun actually. That was kind of part of the enchantment was keeping that **** secret, you know? I don't know if you can imagine that or not but oh no, no, I can't. I could
because it's like it's like anything. It's like, I mean, I mean, even when me when I was younger and I was like going out partying and stuff like that, my family, I would sneak in at nighttime. You know what I mean? It'd be that it'd be that just that and

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then when I became 21, it's like I had drink. It was nothing anymore because it was like I could just do it. My family didn't give a **** You know what I mean? So, I totally get that feeling that you're talking about. My father would have freaked
the **** out. My mother was totally you know, she she I mean coming from an occult background herself, you know, she was supportive of it. She just wanted to know how they did this and why and but once I explained it to her, it was all

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like, oh, yeah. And with regards to you know, with with being in the cult and things like that, what you've practiced, you know, I don't know too much about it. So, what you know, when we think about the Catholic Church, for example, we would pray, you
know, what do you do then as a instead of praying? Do you have something else that you do to sort of get in connection with your sort of belief? Yeah, I got a **** load of stuff, dude but the problem is this podcast ain't 16 hours long.

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And you know, you've got to do it for 32 hours long on a good day. What's up, baby? I mean, the thing is we can make it. No, I'm just saying. No, no, no, no, I do it but no, no, but no, but no, go ahead. No, no, answer
you answer his question in a
short in a short term short way

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or is it just that is it that
it's just you have to answer.
It's very involved. It's a very
involved thing. I mean, I can
answer it. So, I mean, I can, I
I'll give you, I'll give you
some **** Lando. Um so,
Yeah.
as a practitioner of sorcery,
we do not worship anything. No

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we don't worship an entity or a
deity in any way, shape, or
form. We do make deals with
said entity. We we we you know,
we make make offerings and when
I say offerings, I'm not
talking about the flesh of
unbaptized children to make a
flying potion and all that
**** you see in Hollywood.
Stupid **** What I'm talking

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about is I will take a a
$300 and II will buy this ****
and I will pour that into what's
a lead crystal offering bowl
and I will offer that to
whatever demonic entity I'm
working with at the time. Yeah.
In exchange for a favor. Alright,

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I'll give you an example. The
demonic spirit. He has an
invocation. His invocation is
to say, welcome. You say that
nine times. and then you you

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write out your petition. You
prick your finger, little bit
of blood and then you write out
your petition for money. Dude,
I have less than I have no less
than $87,000 in the **** bank
right now because of these
reasons. I'm giving a reason to

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brag because I don't give a
**** Now, let me ask you a
question though. What do you
have to give back? I have to
give public recognition in a
**** $300 bottle of Merlot.
Okay. Now, what will you have
it? Okay. So, and and I'm
sorry. Explain to me again
what what you do with the
Merlot. I pour the Merlot. I

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pour the Merlot in a huge bowl
and I dedicate that that Merlot
to the demon. I say his
invocation. Well,
Havoc.
And then you, yeah. Okay. I'm
very serious about that. I
prick my finger. Yeah. I put

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some of that blood into the
Merlot. I put some of that
blood on the tip of the ****
wick of the black candle.
Usually, now, here's the other
thing. When I do this **** I'm
like, oh my god. Yeah. Now,
it's not tough. Why for that?

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Vulnerability for the
vulnerability. Okay. Wow.
That's some. I've had demons,
bro. See now, how do you I
understand that? Can you explain
that to me? Like, yeah, you

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know, I'm in a dream state. Is
it in dream state? Is it in
actual physical? It ain't in no
**** dream state. Who told you
that **** No, I know. I know.
I'm I'm I'm I gotta ask the
question.

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That is great, man. That is
great. So, I'm pleased. No,
I'm not pleased. I will take a
hand drum. I have a hand drum
that was created by a lady who
is from Finland. It's a Finnish
style hand drum Finland and if
the audience knows anything
about that, they'll know what

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the **** I'm talking about. I'm
not going to pull it out right
now. Anyway, so this hand I
will beat it at 220 beats per
minute. Boom, boom, boom, boom,
boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
that's what I'm talking about.
That allows me to do what's
called a fair fourth or for my

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my consciousness to go outside
of my body but once I summon
the demon, absolutely ****
literally, he's there, baby. you
know, and at first, it starts
off with masturbation. and then
it goes a whole level deeper.
I've had paranormal
investigators ask me, can they
come to my house and videotape

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I mean, maybe. Yeah, I don't
really have any problem with
that. I mean, I I guess so. You
know, I I guess you could come
over here and see that **** but
yeah, you're going to see me
**** air. Yeah, it's like, yeah,
it's like, do you really want
to lock that? You know what I'm
saying? But some of them do.
No, I don't. I don't. I'm just

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serious. But hey, hey, I mean,
people, they want to do it. But
I'm not a succubus. Incubus.
You're not a succubus. Big
difference. What's up, baby?
Yeah, you're you're talking
about dealing with things like
demonic entities, the incubus
and everything like that. Now,
one of the things that we

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always do is a lot of people
try and avoid dealing with those
sorts of spirits because they
say that they can be quite evil.
They can be dangerous to sort
of conjure up and things like
that. Have you ever come across
like doing what you do? Have you
ever seen evil where you've had
to take a step back and push it
away for your own safety? I'm

(18:27):
glad you asked that question.
It's a beautiful question,
honey. Alright, I'm going to
give you two. I'm going to give
you two examples. What's up,
baby? No, I said go Nando. Go
Nando. It's your birthday. It's
your birthday. Um I'm going to
give you two examples. Uh first

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one is angelic fucking
entities, bro. I live in
Tallahassee, Florida, the
capital of Florida. I had a
couple who lives in Waukala
County, Florida which is 20
miles south of Tallahassee. Now,
what color county is famous for

(19:14):
uh what color springs? What
color springs is where they
live? What color springs is
famous for a lot of the Tarzan
movies? Black and white. Yes,
Johnny Wiseman, etcetera,
etcetera. Um **** ton of
**** sinkholes in Waukala
County. A lot of geological
activity here. Anyway, this

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**** young couple had a
four-month-old baby. They
contacted me through a friend
of a friend. blah blah blah,
blah blah blah. Alright, okay.
I investigated what the ****
y'all **** is going through.
Whatever. They were scared of
me at first but yeah, who
isn't Brian Liberty? Anyway,

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so,
I have a gin, a gin spirit.
DJ I and N is way as well. Yes,
I wanted to talk to you about
that actually. I wanted to ask
you a question about that
question. I'm not Muslim. No,
I'm not Muslim. I'm not Muslim.
I'm sorry. I'm not. Should I

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say? What is it? Muslim or
should I say I do? Are you are
you religious as an Islam but
you said you don't worship
anything, correct? That's right
baby. So, so how do you how do
you incorporate gin with that?
Tell me. With what I'm about to
tell you. Yeah. Alright, just
hold on honey. Okay. Okay. So,
I'm jumping ahead. I'm sorry,

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I'm sorry. Hold on sweetheart.
Sweetheart. Trying to cram 32
hours in. Oh baby. Oh AJ.
Anyway,
So, I went over to their house
and you know, I did in in
paranormal investigation

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because I'm not really a
paranormal investigator. I'm
not a
Goddamn you look good in that
picture Raymond. Anyway, so come
to find out it was not a gin.
It was not a demon. It was a
god damn angel who was pissed

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off that these people's house
used to be a church. It used to
be a **** church. The church for
whatever **** reason was
attached to the church, attached
to the building, attached to the
place, etcetera, etcetera and

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it started showing its ****
started showing out baby. It
would uh flush the toilets in
the middle of the night. It
would open and close windows in
the middle of the night. It
would throw books off shelves
in the middle of the night. Not
that they had that many books
because they're rednecks from
Whatcullough County.
I'm not sure. You know, uh it

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would do all kinds of crazy ****
so I went in there. They told me
the whatever and uh so I took
my hand drum. Remember the
Finnish hand drum I told you
about? Yeah. Boom. Boom. Boom.
220 beats per minute, baby.
220 beats per minute. Got into
that theta state. I met my gin
who is from which is a uh city

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out in the Middle East. Uh I
met my gin. Oh boy. Um and the
gin was like, Ken. Actually, he
said, Kenneth.
I was like, yeah, you ain't got
nothing. Okay, baby. Alright, I

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hear you honey. Kenneth. This is
not a demon. This is not a gin.
This is not an elemental. You
know what I mean? A celestial.
So, celestial slash angel
whatever and uh so me, I

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basically what I did was I
contacted the demon or boss.
Jaden Tasa who had knocked out
a boss. I contacted or boss and
we banished that **** Yeah, we
got bit of the we we we got rid
of that hoe, baby. We got that
**** out of there. See, that's
what I mean. You know, everyone

(23:33):
always has this this thought
process of, you know, demons
are this obviously this is going
to ruin your life. Uh it's over
with. Um you know, and I and I
like, you know, I have this
thing where I don't believe
that there's demon after like
all these shows say and all
these, you know, investigators

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are showing now on YouTube or I
want to, I don't want to call
investigators just, you know,
just like, you know, you're
saying demon after demon and
it's not, it's like, dude, you
know, sometimes you just get a
grumpy person in life that's
passed away. That's a soul in
death, you know, but then you
get these these entities like
you're talking about where it's
just like that seems so intense.

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I mean, how strong was that?
That must have been extremely
strong like what the the the
angelic entity? Yeah, I mean, to
to be able to do what it's like
what you said it did like I'm
saying like it's yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah. It was displaying.
It was basically displaying the
same. You know, the same ****

(24:38):
circus **** as any demon would
display it but then again, I've
dealt with exercise. I've done
exorcisms. In fact, I I'm in I'm
in Tallahassee. I've done
exorcisms in Panama City,
Florida. You know, back in the
day, Panama City, Florida was
like, you know, you know,

(24:59):
you know, everybody was ****
everybody was ecstasy was
flowing. Give me them double
stack Buddhas, honey. Give me
them **** Mitsubishis. Y'all
know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, honey. Oh, look at that
**** That **** reminiscing. He
knows about that **** Oh, I do.

(25:20):
I do. I do. I do. ****
I do. I do. I do. Um but yeah,
this **** was up in Panama
City. II don't know, man. II
don't **** know what to say. I
just know that these ****
**** There's no difference
between an angel, a demon, and
a human spirit when it when it

(25:42):
comes to hauntings and
possession. I've dealt with
human spirits that have
possessed people. I had a I
had a lot of people that don't
know and I will not talk about
that **** on my show or any
other show because there's a

(26:03):
lot of taboos about Voodoo. A
lot of taboos about Voodoo. Um
and I have a great relationship
with Bound Samadhi and uh and
uh and uh and all the law slash
mysteries. I won't talk about
that **** openly and publicly.
That's the one thing I won't
**** talk about. Alright, so

(26:24):
I'm going to stop there. So,
I'm going to stop there. So,
maybe, I mean, it depends on
the questions you ask but uh I
want to know like, you know, a
little bit about like what it
is because I haven't really
studied it too much. You know,
I've I've studied a little bit
of it. You know what I mean but
I just didn't. I don't want to
know like obviously, you know,
spells or stuff like that. I'm
just saying like, what is it?

(26:45):
You know, well, what does it
consist of or if that makes
sense? No, that makes sense. I
don't know. I don't know more
than I can **** explain, bro. I
mean, I don't, you know, I
don't have the intellect to
explain that **** Oh, okay.
Okay. No, hey, you know, I I
know II. Okay, I got 640 acres

(27:06):
where I live. 12 of it is
occupied by me. Okay. The rest
of it is occupied by what the
other is. I got eight nine.
Actually, I just bought one

(27:28):
today. I have nine horses and
27 goats and a tarantula. That
is so awesome. That is awesome.
Yeah, I've been riding horses
since I was like 6 years old
but um way out on what they
would normally call the back
40. I I call the back 300

(27:50):
years old and that's where I do
a lot of my heavy **** a lot of
my heavy work. Okay. My dad is
almost 80 years old. He doesn't
go out there. You know, yeah,
yeah and let me, let me, let me
say this, man. If your mother
is still alive, AJ, Nando,

(28:12):
Yeah. Be grateful. Oh, I am
grateful. I feel like losing a
part of your soul. Oh, I trust
me. I know, man. In 2020, I I
lost my entire, basically my
entire family except my mom and
my aunt and my mom lives in

(28:32):
Florida. She lives in Tampa and
uh let me tell you. That's where
my sister lives. I was born in
Bradenton. Yeah. Oh, wow. And
um when I lost my father, man,
like me and him were spent
every day together and I
literally just got off the
bus and two minutes later, they
called me up because he was
learning how to walk and he just
got had a car accident and uh

(28:54):
we just got done saying, I love
you. I'll talk to you tomorrow
and uh next thing I know, he
was gone, had a heart attack
and uh I had to take him off
life support, man and I tell you
what, after that, losing
everybody else from COVID and
then my grandmother three days
later from uh terminal cancer,
it was uh let me tell you, dude,
I I trust me. I am so grateful
to have my mom right now.

(29:16):
Thank you. You're blessed. No,
I'm so sorry for your loss,
dude, because I know that pain.
I know that pain. My fucking
horrible, dude. I mean, you
can lose everybody else around
you. Yeah. Doesn't fucking
matter who it is but when you
you when you lose the keeper of
the womb, your mother,

(29:41):
Anyway, my father, my father
and my mother. Oh my gosh,
dude. I'm so sorry. Is he
alright? Yeah, he's fine now.
He's back home. Uh you know,
sleeping naked in the bed and
drinking beer.
That's my daddy motherfucker.

(30:03):
Hell yeah.
I'm not not not to uh not not
not to switch gears again but I
want to switch back to
something that you were talking
about a little bit about how how
like how we can understand that
you know, demons aren't this
thing that we are all betrayed
to understand them as because

(30:24):
of religious aspect and stuff
like that. Um can you explain
maybe like what they are to us?
Yeah, you know, uh demons
are the best.
Get a little bit of uh what what
is that movie? What is that

(30:45):
show that's on Netflix right
now? The Chilling Adventures
of Serena. Oh yeah. I fucking
love that show, man. I fucking
love that show. They got some
shows on Netflix. I'm not gonna
lie. What's that? That's a good
shows enough. That is a good

(31:05):
show. Some of those guys are
fucking hot guy. Oh, hold them
back. Hold them back. Hold me
back honey. Anyway, uh so most
demons demons in general are
uh they're actually ancient
gods that go back to ancient

(31:27):
Babylonia, ancient Egypt,
ancient Mesopotamia, Samaria,
ancient Egypt, ancient gods
that were turned demon by
organized religion. Okay. A
good example would be uh uh

(31:48):
Belial. Belial is actually an
ancient god among the Canaanites
He's an ancient god but when
organized religion came into
being, he became a demon.
Yeah. He became a demon.

(32:08):
I mean, I know. Along those
things. Sorry, AJ. I was just
gonna say, you know, you're
talking and emphasizing about
the demons that you you deal
with the the kind of stuff that
you do. Do you have people that
don't understand fully about
where they're uneducated but
do they class you as an evil
person because of the way you
believe in things or the way

(32:30):
you believe in things in a
different approach because they
think you do this. So, you must
be either batshit crazy or
yourself. Do you get what I'm
saying? Like, you in a
different way because you know,
you must have people that must
be very disrespectful to you
because of the way of your
truths and the way you know,

(32:51):
you have your beliefs but I
think you gotta get back back
to the question and the the
answer is yes and yes. Yes. And
how do you deal with that? How
do you? Cuz sometimes, you
know, let's be honest, when I've

(33:11):
watched you um with a lot of
confidence in yourself but do
you find it sometimes and this
is just natural within human, I
believe that sometimes the
negative sometimes gets a bit
too much because people don't
take the time to understand you
and to a certain stage in your
life where you really don't give
a **** about what they say. So,

(33:34):
I'm just being blunt. I know
I'm being quite blunt there but
now, baby, look here, honey.
Look here, Nando Carizian. Uh
you can be as **** blunt with
me as you want to, sweetheart.
Um first of all, I don't give a
**** **** them. What are they

(33:57):
gonna do? **** **** **** ****
**** **** them. Yeah. I mean,
I'm not out here pretending to
be some celebrity and whatever
whatever and not really, I
mean, most people, I guess are
scared of me. So, they won't
challenge me which is sad. Do
you think they're scared of
you cuz they just don't

(34:18):
understand you? It's a yes, of
course, they are. They're they're
scared of me because they don't
understand me. Therefore, they
don't want to challenge me.
Cuz I know my **** Yeah, see,
the see, I see, I, my thing is
I is II would love to challenge
you but II respect and

(34:39):
understand your ideas. That's
the thing. You know what I mean
and I, you can challenge me,
baby. No, no, no, I don't know.
Like, I wanted to but after
watching you on multiple
podcasts and watching you speak
about, you know, the things
that you've been through, it's
it's like, I actually understand
what you're saying. I respect
and understand what you're

(35:00):
saying and like and it's it's
weird because I, you know, I
grew up obviously, you know,
Christian, Catholic, you know
what I mean? I grew up the
whole nine where, you know,
demons or this thing and I
mean, I remember seeing these
little creatures running around
like when I first gave my life
to Christ and had this
spiritual experience. Excuse
me and I tell you, man, I was

(35:20):
nervous, you know, I was
nervous, you know, I was
nervous before like the
beginning of my journey and
I'll do it. It was it was
scary and you know, I chalked
it up to the demon thing and
it's good to know that that's
not, you know, not truly the
case, you know, with with
either everybody or just at
least we're, you know, not just
with you because I know there's
millions of people out there

(35:41):
that are doing this that have
the same connection with that
you do with this, you know,
you know, I had this situation
one time in Pensacola.
Pensacola is like four, four
hours away from me or whatever.
Yeah. This woman, she was

(36:03):
almost, you know, she was
seventy-five, 76 years old or
whatever. Her daughter, her
daughter got a hold of a friend
of a friend who knew me. Okay.
And she was possessed. This old
woman was possessed. Now, just
hear me out. Okay. There's some

(36:28):
crazy **** that happened. I was
**** impressed. I was impressed.
So, I contacted the spirit later
because I was that ****
impressed. This **** was
spitting up iron nails. She was
**** levitating five or six

(36:48):
hours ago. She was holding
chairs. Wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait. nails. Iron ****
coffin nails. You ever heard of
do you know what coffin nails
are? Yeah. I mean, how big? No,
I don't know how big they are
but I mean, Oh my god. Like
that. They have a very small

(37:09):
head. A very small head. They're
almost like carpenter concrete
concrete. Oh, okay. Keep going.
No, no, no, keep going. So,
anyway, that this poor old
woman, this poor old woman, she
was doing that kind of ****

(37:30):
right? And so, I went over
there. They were like, go, Ken,
help me, whatever. So, I went
over there. I did my thing. I
brought my apprentice. By the
way, I have been through five
times. Those **** can't do it.
They just can't **** do it. It's

(37:51):
a it's not for the faint
hearted for sure. They know
it's not for the faint. They
just can't do it and and one of
them I offered to blow job but
he still wouldn't do it and so
I don't **** know.
There you go. You know,
whatever. Hey, you tried, right?

(38:13):
You tried. Anyway, this look at
Nando.
I'm all good now. It's good
though. Oh **** Anyway, this
poor old **** woman, she, she

(38:34):
was spitting up what coffin
nails and I, okay, when I do an
exercise, a lot of ****
exorcisms, it's not about
demons or **** whatever.
Spirits, human, angelic, even
demonic can possess people.

(38:58):
It's not just **** demonic that
possess people, okay? Yeah. And
so, I went over there, whatever.
It was a long **** drive. I at
the time, I was like, I'm
ashamed. I **** loved that
goddamn car. Hey, there you go.

(39:20):
Okay. Hey, I am. Do what? I
said, I would have drove that
car. I have, I had a Buick
Regal. So, please, come on. I
had that **** up to 125 and my
apprentice like, please stop.
I'm like, I'm going to go to

(39:43):
pounds. So, big old fat boy,
blonde hair, cute face, but
fat. Anyway, so we we got
there and anyway, long story
short, it was a human spirit
that was possessing this old
**** one. It's a human spirit.
Wasn't a demon. Wasn't an
angel. Wasn't a gen. Wasn't

(40:03):
an elemental which I've dealt
with. I'm like, I'm going to
just give him some beer, some
blackberries, and they're happy.
So, this **** was levitating.
She was spitting up iron nails
out of her **** mouth and she

(40:25):
was spuking glass **** glass,
bro. **** **** glass. So, I had
a friend, I had a EMT, I had a
psychologist and EMT with me,
my apprentice, and me, and we

(40:46):
couldn't figure that **** out.
I mean, no, no way. I mean,
that that would have totally
killed you if you swallowed any
of that. for sure. Yeah, but
that **** was spitting that
**** out like it was nothing,
like it was butter, baby. I
mean, I'm not sure if that's
swallowed it. Did she what? Do

(41:09):
you think that it was swallowed
by her or do you think that no,
it was 100% spiritual? If that
**** swallowed that **** that
was a talented **** old ****
geriatric **** woman, honey.
Right? Right. Okay. Yeah. That's
what I was going to say. Okay.
Good. Okay. No, yeah. No, I
think the same thing. I think.

(41:31):
I think that's the problem. I
think that's the problem. To to
be honest, it sounds absolutely
crazy. You know, it's. Yeah, it
does. It's one of those things
that, you know, I'm not saying
that it's not true what's
happened but it's one of those
situations that you have to be
there to to really see it and
really believe in those sort of
things because they're the kind
of things that you you see on
movies. Do you know what I'm

(41:52):
saying? Like, I believe the
movies pipe up a lot of it and
I think that's the problem
where, you know, the angle that
I come in from Ken is that, you
know, when you've got demons,
demons, it's been hyped up so
much by movies, you don't know
what to believe, what is real
and what is fake. So, when you
got someone like yourself, Ken
that, you know, has studied it

(42:14):
for the amount of years that
you have, you know, you must
have people that find it hard
to believe at the same time
because of the way the movies
portray demons and demonic
entities, you know, and how do
you how do you get people to
believe that you're trying to
justify your yourself in any

(42:35):
way or what what do you show
people to show them that this
is also real? Uh first of all,
I don't give a **** what they
believe **** **** I mean, no,
seriously, I I've experienced
this **** So **** what they
believe II know what's going on.
**** **** But I'll tell you
this. Most of the exorcisms

(42:56):
that I've had to do or perform
in my life have come from human
spirits, human spirits who
occupy the body of a living
entity, a living being, a
living person, this old ****
woman, for example. You know,
what paranormal I love
paranormal. They're so ****

(43:17):
naive. Oh god. They're so ****
naive. I love a **** paranormal
because they believe
everything's a demon. Oh my
god. It's a **** wild. It's
wild how many people believe
that everything is and it's
everything's a **** demon.

(43:38):
Zach Beggins, you know what?
You got nice abs. I'd lick
them but **** you ****
anyway. Oh.
It's not all good. Huh? What's
that? Thank you Ken is you
know, you're talking about
demons and people are very
naive. I do agree with you.
People are quick to say it. As

(43:59):
you know, they're putting it
down like an EVP record and
they're putting it down to
demonic entities. I don't
believe that's always the case.
I think people are too quick to
jump on that and that's what I
might. Does it make it harder
for you where you're being
truthful but then you've got
people that are making up and
staging stuff that is demonic.
Does it make it harder for you
to? prove what you're doing.

(44:23):
I don't know. It makes it
harder for me to convince the
party, the party, P RTY. I
didn't say that was too much of
a slur did I? No, no, but that
was right there.

(44:43):
P RTY. Well, too much. Yeah.
**** god damn. Anyway,
I'm just telling the truth. I'm
just being honest. You know II
haven't had too many problems.
I mean, most people are
religious that I have to deal
with. They're either Baptists.

(45:05):
They're one of the Baptists,
Pentecostal, or they're
Catholic. Yeah. When I tell them
that look, this is not a demon
Baptist. This is not a demon.
This is not a demon. This is a
human spirit that's just

(45:26):
**** angry and pissed off that
it can't get noticed and it's
been alive for 300 years. They
dismiss me. I've been dismissed
many times. Alright, thank you
Ken. You know, oh, oh, dude,
they'll come out with ****
flowers and **** cheese and

(45:46):
hams and crackers and all this
stuff. I'm going to find out
that they've called somebody
else in but they're still
having issues. No, **** It's
what I told you it **** was.
Hmm. Don't know. And you can
that's what's made you so
resilient to the backlash that

(46:07):
you get that now. You know,
what's making me resilient
because I don't give a **** I'm
honest. Yeah, I am what I am.
**** him. I pissed a lot of
people off in the gay paranormal
community because they don't
want me to say certain things.
I could, I'm not going to
mention any names but I can

(46:28):
disagree. I can say some names
right now. People that don't
want me to tell **** And do you
think it's because this is it
something that should be kept
under wraps? Is it certain
things or? No, it shouldn't.
It shouldn't. They need to know.

(46:51):
I mean, I don't know why there
isn't more about it. You know
what I mean? I mean, I
understand it's a secretive
thing. It's you know, it's you
know, it's like a family thing.
It's like, it's like almost
like a mafia thing. You keep it
close net, you know, and I I
totally get that but I think it
can benefit a lot of people as
well. Um as long as they're
doing it obviously for the
right reasons if they're doing

(47:12):
it to like harm others in a
way that's a great thing to
give out to everybody but you
know, but then again, are you
are you into, you know, that
type of magic? What's that?
What type of magic, baby? I'm
I'm because you said you were
you said you had family and
stuff like that. Are you into

(47:33):
that type of a cult stuff
where you know, it's like
harming others in that that
kind of thing. I mean, I'm I'm
not into that **** if you if it
harm you doesn't don't do it or

(47:53):
whatever the **** No, no, no,
no, dude II. If somebody **** me
over like, okay, I'll give you
an example. Look at my shirt.
Yeah.
I'm not into that. Alright.
Alright. and and that's geared

(48:13):
towards Tallahassee Memorial
Hospital because those
motherf**kers killed my mother.
They killed my mother because
she went in there. She had a
**** stroke but she overcame
the stroke while she was in
there. They allowed her to get
a **** bed sore, a bed sore
that was **** two fists wide.
It's a **** size of Jason

(48:37):
and she was sick and she died
then before she died **** him
before she died. Somebody is
calling me right now saying,
don't say anymore. Don't say
**** you. then before she died.
Um what the **** is that ****

(48:58):
called that helps people and
they're on their way out? Come
on. I'll help them on the way
out. Morphine. No, not not a
drug. It's an agency. Oh, it
ain't. Oh, hospice. Hospice.

(49:19):
Hospice came in and started
**** flooding her blood with uh
that **** painkiller that really
bad painkiller that's killing
everybody. Oh man. Yeah, no.
Fentanyl. It's **** exactly.
They're like, oh, they're
fending all this, fending all
that, fending all this. Yeah.

(49:41):
You know, I protested that ****
but they **** killed my mother.
Tallahassee Memorial Hospital
killed my brother and so did
**** uh the fentanyl **** No, I
mean, hey II wouldn't I
wouldn't disagree with you and
the reason why is I had a
family member that went
through a similar thing and uh
I tell you what, I can

(50:02):
understand that. See, I can
understand you getting upset
with somebody in that type of
situation but what I'm asking
is uh I mean, what I'm saying
is I think to use it in the
wrong way would be to just go
around just to harm random
people for no reason. No, you
don't go around and you don't
go around randomly putting
curses on people. Oh, this

(50:24):
**** caught me off, cut me off
in traffic. I'm going to put
now you don't do that. No.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now, that's
stupid. That's **** juvenile. I
don't know what you're talking
about. I'm old and uh you know,
somebody threatened him. Oh,
yeah, you're dead, **** Oh,

(50:44):
you're **** dead. You're done.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now, tell me
what do you think? How do you
think these these things work?
Like, how do you think it works?
Do you think it works on an
energetic level and that's how
it's it's affecting the person
when you do something towards
the person. I think it's

(51:07):
actually doing what it's doing.
Let's go back to the quantum
level, baby. It's all quantum
physics. Yeah, no, I love it.
It's all quantum physics.
That's where that **** lies.
That's the domain. Quantum
physics. I promise you, that's
the truth. The truth is quantum
physics. Listen, I 100% believe

(51:29):
it. Ever since I had my near
20s, I've always been to find
answers in a way where we can
explain it in some
scientific, you know, aspects
so that I can explain it to a
skeptic in an easy way and I
tell you what, energy,
frequency, and vibration and,
you know, stuff along those
lines and also quantum

(51:50):
physics, quantum, you know,
quantum physics and quantum
physics, quantum mechanics,
quantum mechanics. I wish you,
I wish you AJ Capasso could
come to my house because my
house, have you ever seen the
show, the Chilling Adventures
of Sabrina? Yeah, no. Yeah, we

(52:13):
said this earlier. Yeah, I did.
That's what it's like to live
at my house. Hey, listen, I'm
coming to Tampa actually. When?
When? Four hours. Four hours.
That's not bad. I actually
coming down there this summer.
So, I don't know if you've

(52:34):
yet either this summer or by
next year, the latest this
summer, I'm going to try. Okay.
I'm going to stop. Don't lie to
me. I'm not lying. I'm not
trying to make a stop. So, go
ahead, Nando. I just want to
ask you, you touched on about

(52:55):
the dark side of it. It's too
personal but you know, we're
we're looking at the darkest
side of what you do. If you're
someone to get involved in what
you do, would you be prepared
to teach him and you know and
go through that process with
him? Absolutely. 100%. I'll
teach you every god damn thing.

(53:16):
**** Yes. And he's god damn
right. Maybe he's a bit too
young at the moment but does he
understand? He's almost 6
years old. I was going to say,
so 6 years old, you you're
finding kids now are getting
more, you know, they have more
of an understanding as earlier
or not. Do you do you think your
son understands what you do and

(53:37):
you know, do you speak to your
son about the kind of things
that you do do? I do and yes,
he does. and the the beautiful
thing about it is he has not
been exposed to organized
behavior. You sweet boy.
Oh,

(53:59):
I would die for him. Yes, he
he knows he knows he knows what
daddy does. Um let me let me
give you something funny
earlier today before he came on
the podcast. It's like son, I
gotta go. I gotta get on the
podcast. I was running around
going crazy. You know, trying

(54:21):
to get on with some gummy gummy
bears and I'm like, son, the
gummy bears are in the house.
It's like, well, I'm scared to
go in there. I'm like, you are
the son of a sorcerer. Why
would you be scared to go in
the house and get gummy bears
by yourself?
Anyway, he got this damn gummy
bears, baby. Ken, I wanted to

(54:44):
ask you. So, you know, being a
sorcerer, stuff like that and
you know, you're a sorcerer and
obviously from the lady, you
know, all that kind of stuff
but I want to know what other
type of things do you do? Do
you do spell work for people?
Do you do cleaning like
clearings? Um like what what
type of other work do you do

(55:04):
for your community? Yeah, I do.
I do spell work for my
community. I do cleansings,
banishing entities, you know,
things of that nature. Uh you
know, and I I'm not going to
tell you that. Oh yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. There's money involved.
I mean, it would be no
different than the ice age. You

(55:25):
know, you would spend twelve
ten to twelve furs for
whatever the **** Right? Oh, I
mean, hey, I mean, it is your
livelihood number one. Number
two also, you have the
experience long enough where
you are, you know, in my, I
mean, in my opinion, a
professional on what you do and

(55:45):
it's like, you know, you're good
at it, you know, you're not
going to do that, kind of do
that because you're not going
to get something for free.
That's going to be, you know,
good. You know what I mean? I
do consider myself a
professional but I'm very
unorthodox. I do it or I I do
it however the **** I feel like
doing it. You know? No, I feel

(56:06):
you. I think that's great. I
think that's totally awesome.
And again, it's about being
true to yourself. It is. But
just to touch on, you know,
the way that you're learning
from you and in the way you do
things. Now, when we talk about
people passing, you spoke.
Goddamn, she's **** hot. As a

(56:27):
homosexual, that **** is fine.
**** Yeah. Valerie's very
Thank you. Um oh, I lost what
I was saying now. What was I
saying? Oh, okay. Yeah, we we
touched base on about loved
ones passing away. Now, what do
you think is going to happen

(56:48):
in the physical world? What do
you believe happens to us
afterwards? Do you believe that
there is a heaven and hell? Do
you know what what do you take?
What do you expect to happen
afterwards? We all go to hell
and die in burning fire.
I knew he was going to laugh at
that right there. I knew but I

(57:09):
it was a question that I wanted
to ask you. Same as us all.
We're all the **** where you're
doomed to land of car is in.
We're doomed. No, okay. Alright.
It's coming from an Italian
background. Again, a lot of
Italian, you know, Italy is
based on religion. You know, if
you have a look at a lot of it

(57:31):
is basically that. So, so for
me, you know, you're coming in
from a totally different angle
to the way I was brought up and
I'm sure AJ can relate to that
in a sort of similar way. You
know, so it would just be
like, you know, whatever happens
to us after we are finished on
this physical world. You know,
what you know what happens?
Whatever you believe happens.

(57:52):
I've been told this by many
powerful entities. What you
believe manifests. What you
believe manifests. See, if you
believe that all dogs go to
heaven, that cartoon, remember
that cartoon back in the day?
Yes. Yeah. Come on now. I'm not

(58:12):
going to lie. I'm not going to
lie. I'm not going to lie. There
you go. That's simple. So, do
you believe in things like God,
Jesus, and all that then as
well? But I believe that a man
named Yahweh Yahweh Yahshua
walked the earth but he was a

(58:35):
sorcerer.
He was a sorcerer. Yeah. Okay.
You know what? It's funny
because I've actually I've I
had a medium tell me one time
that he was a man that you know
was he was a man that was that
way and it's funny that you say

(58:56):
that and and I've never heard
that before before her but
until you just said it right
now, it was the second time I
heard it is truth. Okay. Hey,
we all have our own. We all
have our own beliefs, right?
Absolutely. And so, I would

(59:18):
never, yeah, I would never try
to destroy someone else's
belief. No, no, no, not at all.
Not at all. And that's why we're
we're all about that. We're all
about respecting other people's
beliefs. You know, I don't care
what background you have
because I can learn from you.
I can learn from you. I can
learn from you. 100%.

(59:38):
Absolutely. I could learn from
you and Lando Carr is in
because that **** knows how to
wield a **** lightsaber.
I'm not going to let that go. I
I like the way you like. You
respect everyone's and I think
that's the most important part
of this. We all need to
respect everyone's backgrounds
beliefs. It's not a right and

(59:59):
wrong answer but I just think
that's the most important thing
to achieve and you know, for me,
you're you're very honest where
a lot of people shy away to it
and it's that's why I that's
why I'm coming up with these
sort of questions because you
don't usually get a person
that's so willing to be as
honest as you are. Yeah, I don't

(01:00:21):
give a **** man. I mean, I
honestly, it's the best policy,
right, baby? Yeah, definitely.
I mean, it really is. I mean,
why if you're lying to the
people around you, **** that
**** dude. Be honest with
everything. Be honest with
every **** thing. What you guys

(01:00:41):
are getting on this podcast
tonight is Ken Allen. Not Ken
Allen this or Ken Allen that.
You're getting **** me for real
though, baby. Honey. Yeah. Hey,
no, I see that. That's what I
like about you, man. You are
who you are, who you are. You
don't act like anybody else.
You don't try to be anybody
else and that's that's that's

(01:01:02):
what I'm trying to get you to
be who you are with. It's
because I think it's super
important to be that way. Just
to be you, be who you are and
it doesn't matter how you are
or who you are. I don't care.
You know, your sex orientation
and I don't care about your
religion. I don't care about
none of that stuff, man. All I
care about is who you are as a
person like are you cool or you
not? That's all I care about,
you know? You know, I'm cool,

(01:01:23):
right, baby? Oh, I know you
cool, man. I know you. That's
what I'm talking about. Okay.
Okay. Bring that torch over
here, Lucifer. Bring that torch
over here, honey. Oh, yeah. I
am a Luciferian. I am a
Luciferian. See, okay. Now,
explain to if you could explain

(01:01:44):
to me and to everyone what that
means. I knew you was going to
ask that **** honey. I you I
have to. I want to know what
you look like naked. Well, you
know, it's not a pretty sight.
You got something, honey. Uh

(01:02:04):
listen, I can't kiss and tell,
you know what I'm saying? I
ain't going to kiss you. I'm
just going to taste you. I'm
just going to taste you.
Alright, so without going into
grave details, first of all,
our Luciferian is not like that

(01:02:25):
**** that you hear on
YouTube, you know, the
weekly where they talk about
Luciferians eating the flesh of
dead people or Lady Gaga being
a member of the Cannibal Club
where they eat **** ethnically
ethically harvested human
flesh and all that ****

(01:02:46):
Luciferian is someone who is
involved with enlightenment,
extreme amounts of
enlightenment. It's a little
bit of a Antelope Antelope
Satanism is
it's atheistic. It's very

(01:03:08):
atheistic. It's non-theistic
Satanism and it's all about,
you know, increasing your
intellect in your spiritual
approach to this or to that. So
that's the bullshit. We don't
believe in sacrificing or

(01:03:29):
killing or all any of that
**** We do believe in
increasing your intellect and
that means studying the Bible.
That means studying the
Dhammapada from Buddhism. That
means studying Tibetan Buddhism,
Hindu Hinduism. That means

(01:03:54):
studying the Buddha, the dead,
etcetera, etcetera and then you
put together your own your own
self-belief system. So
Luciferian is your own self
belief system. Does that make
sense? No, I mean, that's the
best I can do within this short
period of time. It's crazy
because it's actually something

(01:04:15):
that I I do. I actually I try
to you know, stay stay. You
know, I'm sorry. My my family
upstairs, my cousin's yelling at
my niece's. So, I'm trying to
like block the mic at the same
time. So, I apologize for stop
talking every 2 seconds but
what I'm trying to say is is

(01:04:35):
that that's kind of what I do
is that I study like all these
different, you know, religions
or sacred texts and stuff like
that to, you know, gain
knowledge and and intellect and
you know, build my own belief
off of that on top of that, you
know, adding science into the
mix with the quantum
theory and you know,
neuroscience and stuff like

(01:04:56):
that that I love to do because
I'm this big nerd that just
loves to you know, read and and
you know, gain knowledge from
people and from you know, stuff
like that. So, Yeah. So, it's
funny. I am I'm holding back a
little bit because there are
certain things I'm holding me
a little bit because there's
certain things that you know, I
gotta keep for myself, bro. You

(01:05:18):
know. Oh, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, I'm just saying I can relate
to that part that you that you
were talking about. No, man.
What you're saying is very
lucifer. It's very lucifer.
Lucifer doesn't mean that you
sacrifice and that you bleed and

(01:05:39):
that you this and that for
Satan or the devil or whatever.
In fact, most Luciferians don't
believe that Satan and Lucifer
are the things that I have to
hold back on for for for taboo
reasons. There's taboos in
Luciferianism. There's taboos

(01:05:59):
and Voodoo slash Voodon. You
know, that's what we talk about
the law slash the mysteries
probably the Petrol. Uh et
cetera, et cetera. There's
certain things that we have to
keep to ourselves that we have
been that has been revealed to
us. Um just to ask a question,

(01:06:22):
sort of stepping away is more
of a personal question to you
and I sort of touched base on
it before we start the post
podcast. You're very open about
your sexuality. Um god damn
right. I love dick. You're very
true. But the thing is a lot of
people um to this day are still
very scared to be open and be

(01:06:44):
truthful about their sexuality
and I do believe very strong.
I don't know if you're in love
with a woman. That's fine. If
you're in love with a man,
whatever but what what advice
would you give to someone? I
know this is totally, you know,
separate to what we're talking
about but your honest advice,
if someone was the the the
saying that you've had many of
times living in the closet

(01:07:04):
because they're too scared to
come out, what advice would you
give to a person to come out
and be true about themselves?
You know, I don't know. I I I
don't know. I mean, Ken Allen
says, hey, if you love dick, do
this. Hey, if you love the taste
of balls, I really don't know.

(01:07:28):
I mean, I, Ken Allen doesn't
give a **** I mean, I I've been
with my husband for almost 23
**** years. 23 years. I met
him a long time ago. He was at
a drag bar. It was Panama City
and we hooked up whatever
various things happen. He stood

(01:07:50):
on his hands and gave me a
blowjob in the shower. It was
**** epic. Okay. It's ****
epic but what's that? I said,
stole your heart. Look at
Yeah. I told him, I said, you
know what? **** I think I love

(01:08:10):
you. Anyway, we've been
together for a long time. You
can be yourself. Dude, nobody
cares. Nobody **** really
cares. Nobody is everybody.
Look, most people are most
people are saturated with
themselves. Most people are
infatuated with their self.

(01:08:31):
They don't **** care. They
don't **** care. Just be
yourself. If you like dick,
proclaim that **** I like
dick. If you like cooter, if
you like coochie, if you like
coochie, then
eat sardines. Oh, you know,

(01:08:52):
whatever. I don't know. I don't
think that helped anything.
Nando. Yeah.
**** If you like dick, proclaim
that **** I like dick, y'all.
I'm a second one tonight. If
you like dick, proclaim that
**** I like dick.

(01:09:18):
Ken, I wanted to ask you one
question. I wanted to ask you,
so what are these? Well, what
are these entities that you
work with look like? Like, what
do they show themselves of you?
Have you have you seen them in
the physical? Like, well, what
do they show themselves to you
as? Yeah, I have. I have seen
them in the in the physical

(01:09:39):
as well. Hold on. Hold on. Hold
on, baby. Hold on.
So, they're humanoid. Most of
them. most of them are humanoid
but they have like this a light

(01:10:01):
aura around their bodies which
you would consider their
physical. And most people that
practice sorcery at least at my
level because you know, when I
practice, I'm fully naked. I'm
exposed. I I want to be
exposed. There's a reason for

(01:10:22):
that. It's not just symbolic.
It's **** everything. You know,
I want to be completely
vulnerable to every **** thing.
I want to experience everything.
I want to experience everything.
So, for me, like Paimon, the
the the the uh demon slash

(01:10:44):
entity slash deity, deity
because he is a god. He's a
**** god. Believe me. Paimon
appears to me in a body of
light as a thirty-five to
forty-year-old male with a long
black hair **** hot and ****
beautiful. Now, maybe that's
why I'm talking about me. I've

(01:11:05):
talked to other sorcerers slash
witches even, you know, uh
bitches who like other **** who
like **** and uh they they
don't like **** but they like
**** and uh and Paimon will
appear to them in the same ****
way in the same **** way. So,

(01:11:25):
usually they have bodies of
light and they're and and they
have a body of light. You know
that when when I say bodies of
light, I mean like there's this
**** glowing **** You see my
arm here? There's like this
**** glowing **** It's almost a
gold glowing **** that goes
across their **** bodies or

(01:11:47):
whatever but they're naked.
They're always **** naked.
There's no clothes, no clothes.
Why would there be? Why would
there be? Why would there be
clothes? **** clothes? Clothes
are like a demon that um shows
itself to you or have you ever
seen one that dresses in a suit

(01:12:07):
with uh like a suit and tie
like a business thing with like
maybe like a a small suitcase
type looking thing. Have you
ever seen anything like that
before? I have I have uh I don't
know the reason why you asked me
that but usually it's Lucifer.
Lucifer shows himself as like
a uh a businessman, someone who

(01:12:29):
has a suit and a suit and a
suit and a suit and a suit and
a suit and a suit and a suit
with a **** suitcase and ****
uh doesn't matter what color
suit. I've seen blue. I've seen
black. That's it. Alright.
Listen to this. Okay. Listen to
this. I had this experience
where I never had this ever
again but two times in the same

(01:12:52):
night, I had um sleep paralysis.
That's what I would call it.
I would sleep on my stomach
because I sleep on my stomach.
I woke up out of nowhere and I
couldn't move and I started to
scream but I can see this guy
in a suit and tie, blue,
everything, you know, a blue

(01:13:13):
suit with a suitcase and he
bends over, walks in the room,
bends over in front of me and
he just starts smiling at me
and what's funny is I had this
same experience in a dream
visitation. The same guy has
been sleeping on my back and
he just like he told something
to get off of my back and the

(01:13:34):
next morning, I woke up and I
had two black and blue marks
and the way that they looked
was like as if you put your
hand on a window pane when it's
wet and you just pull it down
and it was just black and blue
marks. It's a creepiest thing.
So, I'm wondering if I had a I
had a situation because in that

(01:13:55):
case, I think that it was that
for some reason.
Yes. Yes. It was real. Yes. It
was real. Yeah. But anyway, I
I just want to say thank you
man for coming on. I

(01:14:16):
appreciate you. Oh, you're
getting rid of me so quick.
I'm a big mother **** Oh no,
I'll keep you on. You want to
stay on? I don't want to stay
on. I'm god damn II. I got I
got you know what? I got a good
five minutes.

(01:14:38):
You know what? There is one one
question I will ask then is do
do any of your family do the
same as what you do like your
husband you've spoken about.
Do they sort of do the same as
you have for example and got
involved since being around you
or is it something that you've

(01:14:59):
got to know them as part of
what you've done over the years
That is a wonderful question
actually because I was just
thinking that no, my husband
knows what I do and we have
some mutual enemies.
I'm not going to lie to you.
My husband, this was only like

(01:15:22):
three months ago. My husband
said, you know what? Baby, he
said, baby, do whatever you
gotta **** do but don't let me
know what you do. He knows what
I work with. He knows I work
with the darker entities. He
knows what I do, etcetera,
etcetera. Now, my husband is

(01:15:44):
more like a DC and Diana, it's
he's more attached to the way
of doing things but he told me
he said, baby, you do whatever
you gotta **** do to this
**** Alright, done. Consider
it done. So, hey, could you
share a good luck type? Uh

(01:16:07):
maybe quick ritual or something
that's something small with us.
I don't know. I don't know.
Um I wish I had my yeah, I wish
I had my candles up here but I
don't get you a alright baby.
Get you a green candle honey.
Okay. Get you a green candle.
It don't matter if it's glass

(01:16:28):
encased or whatever. If it's a
taper, get you a green candle.
Listen to me carefully now. You
know, it's a bon Tossa. I'll say
that one more time. Well, Milan

(01:16:50):
Avaj, Bon Tossa. If you're not
familiar with demonic ends,
look up S Connolly, S Connolly.
Well, Milan Avaj, Buntas. Get
you a green candle. Put it,
prick your thumb. Put a little
bit of a green candle. Uh a

(01:17:11):
green candle and put you some
pie right at the base of that
candle pie right which is full
of gold. It's okay. You can do
it. honey and then you write
out a petition, write out a
petition and say, oh, I need
this amount of money, etcetera,
etcetera, etcetera and then

(01:17:31):
prick your finger again and
just kind of put your blood
out. I need this amount of
money. Whatever. Fold that ****
up. Put it under the candle.
Boom. Light that candle and say
well, Milan Avaj, Buntas. Well,
Milan Avaj, Bon Tossa. Well,

(01:17:53):
Milan Avaj, Buntas.
You know, **** sound that ****
out. You'll get money, honey. I
know you do, baby. You'll get
some **** money because I wanted
to buy, I ain't gonna lie to

(01:18:15):
you. I wanted to buy a 2015
Audi six because I **** love a
**** Audi six. Guess what? I
put that **** out. **** came to
my house. They knew my daddy
willing to sell a 2016 Audi
six. I bought that **** that

(01:18:36):
**** with limo. Dude, I got
that **** Oh my gosh. That's
dude. That is awesome. See,
that right there shows that that
shows that I mean, we can
definitely manifest. We can
definitely manifest stuff
through this, this, you know,
this science and it's just,
it's awesome to say, man. It's
awesome. Magic is the

(01:18:58):
technology of gods and we are
the technology of gods. Yeah. I
mean, have you have you studied
you studied Gnostic, right?
Gnostic Bible. Yeah. Yes,
baby. Honey. But you know how
they believe that, you know,
the whole point what Jesus is
saying was about us, that we

(01:19:19):
are that, you know, and I
totally believe that. I totally
want to ever say and believe
that. You know, I I believe
that that sounds more real than
some of the stuff that we
actually are being taught to be
taught to be in that kind of
context but um. You're so
fucking sexy when you talk like

(01:19:40):
that, honey. AJ Capasso. Oh,
AJ.
That's funny. Um. Oh, it ain't
funny to me, honey. It's real.
No, I know. No, I know. Um I
don't. So, I actually, Nando,

(01:20:01):
I'm not going to say anything
about it but I'm I'll leave it
like I'm going to leave it to
you. Um let me have a thing. I
think we've covered a lot of
aspects like the only thing
that I would ask is you're
talking about different types
of demons, incubus, and you
know, when you go into these
places or you're you're doing
what you're doing, how can you
tell the difference? You know,

(01:20:22):
what are their telltale lines
like feeling smells or is it
just you're seeing them in
different ways all the time?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because I am a sorcerer and
because I have been doing this
for a very long time. I am, I'm
old. Y'all motherfuckers may not
know this but I'm **** old.
Okay? I'm old as **** Oh,

(01:20:46):
anyway, how? Okay, so going
back to your early stages then
so you've been doing this for a
number of years. You know what
you're doing but when you
started doing it then, how did
you, how are you able to teach
yourself to learn what
you're doing? Oh, that was
trial and error. That **** was
**** crazy. Holy **** ****

(01:21:07):
Oh, baby. That **** was wild as
**** dude. It was like, am I
**** this demon or am I
**** this one? You know, that
was wild **** baby. Uh but you
know, I'm **** old as **** now.
So, it's like, it's instinctual
800.

(01:21:27):
Yeah.
I **** love him. He's ****
great. Right? I'm not too far
from that but I'm old. I'm old.
Anyway, it's instinctual. I
mean, it's like, I I don't ****
know how to answer your
question, Lando Carrizian.

(01:21:49):
Oh, he goes. He goes. That
**** What are you drinking?
told me. Yes, you. It's now
Lando.
Yeah. I just got my water.
That's all it is now. It's

(01:22:09):
water. That's a lion ****
talking about. I got water. I'm
from the Tower of London. I'm
drinking water from the Tower
of London. I'm drinking water.
Sorry if I sound like Sean
Connery and most things from
here don't react to out of
bullets.

(01:22:32):
Sometimes you just gotta slap
my **** Oh, somebody can slap
me tonight. I'd be happy,
honey. Uh it's the whole thing
about Sean Connery but it's
just funny but um that's funny.
Uh is there any is there any
demons that you want to uh

(01:22:53):
obviously deal with?
I'm sitting here thinking right
now. Um Samayel. Cane,
Belilith, Lucifer.
I'm trying to think of some.

(01:23:13):
No. Why? None that none that I
would have any demons to work
with. No, at this time, at this
time, no. Oh, wait. You don't
have any at this time that you
wouldn't work with? Not at this
time. No, no. I haven't
encountered any demons that I
wouldn't work with that I

(01:23:33):
wouldn't work with at this time.
That doesn't mean that it won't
happen. Uh just just like with
I'm sorry. How do you know when
you're going to be able to go?
My gin will tell me I have a
you know, I have a gin a

(01:23:55):
guardian. He he'll say, hey,
motherfucker. You're back the
**** off. Okay. Now, is it
audio? Do you hear it with your
ears when he says it? You hear
it within. It's it's very
audio. In fact, I I can publish
a book with the **** In fact, I
should. My husband keeps saying
publish that. Yeah. Oh, do it.

(01:24:17):
You know, I think that's a
lot of knowledge and like
seriously, you can. There's a
lot of things I think people
can learn from you even if you
know, even if you are a person
who's a Christian watching the
show and you think, oh my gosh,
demons, you know, this is this
is absolutely ridiculous. Um
but no, it's think about it in
in in in a more you know,
scientific way of you an energy

(01:24:37):
if you have to but it doesn't
matter. Just think of it about
the knowledge that you can
bring to the table in this
paranormal field. I think it's
a lot and I think people really
need to know about it. I do. I
gotta be honest with you. Um
I know I'm I'm gonna say some
names here because I don't give
a **** Uh Matt Baron, he

(01:24:57):
completely respects me. Yeah.
He knows that I **** That's one
of my good friends. He's a
great person. He's a great
person. Brian Loverty, you
know, yeah. Yeah. You know, I
know. I know. I know. I know,
Brian. Uh your head. Can I

(01:25:20):
write it? You know, and ****
like that. You know, joke
around about riding his head.
Good. but I have a lot of
respect for Brian Loverty, you
know, and all of these guys
who's in the paranormal field
because these guys will seek me
out to ask me, uh hey, Ken,

(01:25:40):
what do you think about this?
What's going on with that?
I mean, they're legit. They're
not **** They're not fakers.
No, Brian tells you something
or if Matt Baron tells you
something, it's **** real.
It's legit. Listen, I can
contest behind closed doors.
Um you know, I'm a good friend

(01:26:01):
of Brian's. I never spoke about
anything we've ever talked
about but let me tell you
something. He speaks very highly
of you. That's all I can say.
Very highly of you and uh he
said the same thing that I just
said. You know, you have a lot
of knowledge that you can
offer and um I truly believe
that and uh I haven't got to
talk to Matt about you but I I
know that Matt's going to say

(01:26:21):
the same thing. He's going to
talk very highly of you as
well and if I do have that
knowledge, if if if I do have
that knowledge, it's because I
don't give a **** I will go
there. I go there. I go there.
Whereas a lot of people that

(01:26:43):
don't go there that supposedly
practice sorcery won't go
there. I go there. But hey,
look, if you're going to do
this **** **** do it. Yeah. Why
hold yourself back? No holds
board, baby. This is ****
magic. This is sorcery. This is
**** that can change the ****

(01:27:03):
**** universe. Do it. Yeah. No,
I I'm 100% with you, man. I
mean, I mean, I mean, this can
help so much as well. I mean,
um you know, in some aspects,
you gotta push the envelope.
You gotta do it. I mean, that's
what science does to do to
discover things and that's what

(01:27:24):
we have to do to make this
field even more well known as
it being something real because
if there is truly something
real, you know, it is truly
something real. It's not
something fake. I mean, there's
these fakers that are ruining
the field but you know, we
gotta do it. We gotta do it.
See, I work with, I work with
the team, a local team in

(01:27:45):
Tallahassee. Hey, Anthony, you
find a **** **** I work with the
team uh in in in Tallahassee,
Florida called Outcast Outcast
with the K Outcast Paranormal.
Now, Outcast Paranormal is led
by Stacy Brown, Stacy Brown
Jr. AKA Stacy Bigfoot Jr.

(01:28:10):
Stacy Brown Jr. and look up if
you get a chance, look up the
Skunk Ape Experiments. I'm in
his movie. That movie is on
Voodoo and it's on Amazon. I'm
in that movie doing what's
called a uh basically a
reenactment, okay? It's a
reenactment. The very the very

(01:28:32):
end of that movie, I'm doing a
reenactment. You'll see me in
that movie, whatever, whatever,
whatever, whatever, whatever,
but Stacy Brown, Stacy Brown
Jr. baby. There you go.
Um Ashley Hale says, have you
always had your gin or did you
do something to make that

(01:28:53):
connection slash bond and how
is your gin different from a
spirit guide? Great question.
Um no, he or she because you
know, I don't really give a
**** about sexuality or sex in
general. Uh presented itself to

(01:29:16):
me when I was geez II don't
know five or 6 years old. I
lived in a place called Kershaw
South Carolina. and uh I
remember seeing this entity in
the bathroom. Now, if anybody

(01:29:37):
wants to connect because I'm
not going to go into that ****
tonight. I'm too tired. You'll
be able to connect the gins and
bathrooms together. Just ****
do your research people. Gins
and bathrooms. whatever. Uh I
saw this gin in the bathroom. I

(01:29:57):
was using II took a **** like a
five year old kid. I I remember
I was using my own **** and
there was per shampoo. If
anybody remembers that **** per
shampoo, this gin showed up.
His head was this **** big. I've

(01:30:18):
been on a lot of podcasts about
this **** Some podcasts that you
guys have been like, oh my god,
I can't believe you was on his
but yeah, whatever but his head
was this **** big and he had
horns on his head that look
like **** cornrows. and uh me
and him as a five year old kid,

(01:30:41):
I called him a whore. You ****
whore because I remember my mom
or my dad or some **** some
kind of exchange between my
mom or dad. You know, you whore
you **** whore. So, I called
him a whore and of course, from
what I remember, he chuckled

(01:31:02):
his head in the mirror or some
**** like that. So, he's been
with me ever since. No, I did
not do any ritual. I did not
ask for it. This gin has been
with me ever since and I have
had three not one, not two but
three Cuban Cuban medicine and
tell me that this is fact that

(01:31:22):
I do have this gin with me. Now,
how is it different from a
mother **** This **** will go
this **** will go You will feel
that **** dude. You'll ****
physically feel that **** It's

(01:31:42):
almost scary. It's almost
frightening. Wow. It's almost
frightening. Yeah. And have you
have you ever thought to yourself
why it presented to itself to
you at such a young age? I'm
sorry. Say that again. Tower of
the

(01:32:03):
Have you ever thought to yourself
why it come to you so young?
Yeah, I have. I've hold on ****
**** I'm gonna lose my
headphones. I can't stop little
boy. My son, he's **** with me.
What are you doing, boy?
I have one. Stop it, Jackson.

(01:32:24):
Stop it. Stop it. I have
one. I'm not gonna stop. You
know, but it's not a big deal.
As long as he's here, he helps
me, you know, he's like, okay,
Lucifer wants this and I am on
one side and Belial and Beelzebub
wants this and by the way, this

(01:32:45):
**** woman over here that's
possessed this. This is an
angel, you know, that kind of
**** So, I have no issues with
my gin and and he's always been
on the show. That that is so
interesting. That is so
interesting. I mean, I never, I
never, I'm on the talk about a

(01:33:05):
gin. I hear about it. It really
is.
I'm sorry. Say that again. Oh,
no, I said, I have never had
anyone on the show talk about a
gin like this, this deep and I
have to say, it's very
fascinating and interesting to
finally have something on the

(01:33:26):
table that you can use as a
role in in your life. You know
what I mean? A lot of people
think that gins and demons, the
gin and the you know,
Christians, Muslims, whatever,
**** Allah **** Jehovah, you
know, Elohim, Jehovah, whatever.
Yeah. Gens and demons are ****

(01:33:49):
different. Alright, they're not
the same thing. You know, King
of the
What the **** ever. I also
crawl it like **** too by the
way but um and demons are not
the same thing. A lot of people
clump them together uh and the
watchers. A lot of people clump

(01:34:10):
demons and the watchers as the
same **** thing. Hey, hey, Babs,
you know, I love it. I love it.
**** Brian. So much, Brian. We
were talking about you earlier.
We love you, Brian.

(01:34:36):
He's like, oh my god. I
shouldn't have said anything.
Can I want to know what? He's
been talking all this ****
recently in the comments and
during the show. So, you know
what? He deserves that. That I
don't know. He does. Look at
it. Hang on. Hang on. Listen.
Can y'all hear this? Listen.

(01:34:57):
Yeah. Spit on it. I'm Brian
spit on it.
That's funny. We love you guys.
He says, soon as I'm gonna
tell you, one day, I'm gonna
meet that son of a **** and when

(01:35:19):
I'm gonna meet him, I'm gonna
meet him. Oh, like step
brothers over here. Um did you
have a question? Is that what
you're? No, no, I'm good. I,
you know what? I'm good. I'm
just listening at the moment.
Yeah. So, hey, Ken, I just
wanted to say, man, thank you
for coming on. I actually, I
actually have to go myself now
but uh I wanted to say thank

(01:35:41):
you so much for coming on. I
appreciate you coming on. Um
thank you for having me and uh
where they get out the podcast
and everything. Yeah. So, if
you wanna reach me, just look
up Ken Allen on Facebook. I
mean, it's really that simple.

(01:36:01):
I have a Facebook uh Ken Allen
Facebook and I have a podcast
called the Wizards Table. The
Wizards Table uh which is on
YouTube uh YouTube but right
now, I'm not active. I won't be

(01:36:21):
active until after January
twelfth until my uh co-host
Mistress B gets back because uh
I love her and that's why. So,
Ken Allen, Facebook. There you
go, baby. That is awesome,
man. Well, hey, man, listen,

(01:36:42):
man. Hey, would you would you
love to come back on man?
Because I'd love to have you
back on. Yeah, I'll come back
on. Should I wear clothes?
Alright, awesome, awesome. I'll
definitely set it up with you
man after the holidays and we'll
get you back in. Uh but thank
you so much again. I truly
appreciate you. Respect you. I
keep doing what you're doing,
man. So, Nando, we're gonna uh

(01:37:06):
I don't know if you wanna say
anything real quick or did you
have an opportunity to speak to
you Ken and um you know,
honestly, I think your honesty
and the way you portray
yourself is so truthful in it
and I appreciate that. You know,
you've been honest with your
answers. You know, I'm not
gonna lie. You are totally out
there and you know, I think

(01:37:29):
you're crazy in a loving way
and I think it's great what
you're doing the way you are
and I just think you come in
at a different angle and it's
been a pleasure to talk to you
Ken. Thank you for having me.
Alright, Ken. Talk to you soon.
Alright, bye y'all. See you
later, Ken. Oh man. Hold on.

(01:37:52):
Let me change the layout real
quick. That is awesome, man.
Wow. He is a great character.
He is uh you know, very truthful
and you know, he says it as it
is and I think if more people
are listening to him, you know,
it's a great way to be. You

(01:38:13):
could not have said that better.
I mean, that's exactly what I
would have said. I mean, just
that when I saw him on Brian's
show, I was like, oh my god, I
gotta contact him immediately.
Um I gotta have him on the
show and uh Brian says, I never
had balls on my head. Ball is
coming, Brian. You're about to
have your first. You're gonna

(01:38:37):
have to do that. You know, he
just he speaks his mind. He
speaks as it is. It's just uh
straightforward. He's he's you
know, he's very um he believes
in you know, he has he's very
strong in his belief and I love
that and I think that's what's
nice about him. Let's get this
right about Ken. He's strong
with his beliefs but he doesn't

(01:38:58):
force people to believe in what
he does and that is what is
very you know, let's appreciate
that. Let's respect that. Let's
respect that. Let's respect that
that try and you know, their
beliefs like you. He doesn't. He
just says it as he feels it and
you gotta respect the guy for
it and it's it's upsetting that
people don't take the time to

(01:39:19):
really understand the guy and
you know, listen to him because
once you've spoken to him, he's
actually a level headed guy and
he's he's just saying it as it
is and that's you know, and
that's what people need to
understand. He's just true to
himself and what you believe
in and you gotta respect that
and it's as simple as that.
Absolutely. You're absolutely

(01:39:40):
right, man. Uh Brian just said
Ken is amazing and uh yeah, he
definitely is and uh he has a
lot of knowledge and I think
that there's a lot of stuff
that he that everyone can take
away from it and like I try to
tell everyone that comes on the
show as a co-host or as a you
know, as like Robin to you know,
everyone. I just try to say,
listen, it doesn't matter who
comes on the show whether

(01:40:01):
they're well known or they're
not, you know, anyone who has
one subscriber. I don't even
care because we can all learn
from each other no matter what
angle it's coming from. Just
take what you can learn or like
turn it the way that you
believe or use your belief in
that, you know, whole concept
and you know, who knows you can
make your research into
something great. So, but hey,

(01:40:22):
Nando, thank you so much for
joining me. I appreciate it.
Let me be part of it tonight.
Oh, absolutely, man and uh hey,
shout out your stuff real
quick. Um so, we're Paranormal.
We're based in the UK. Um you
can find us on Facebook,
portal to the paranormal. Um
and you know, we do and again,
we do our podcast. Um PTTP

(01:40:46):
Thrill of podcast. Um we stream
it on Para post as well. You
know, thank you Brian for that.
Um so, yeah. So, just keep an
eye on what we're doing next
and you know, and just enjoy
it. Awesome. Well, guys, thank
you so much for watching
another episode. This has been

(01:41:06):
talking with the source and I
am your host, AJ Capasso. Until
next time. Bye.
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