"Unveiling the Unknown: An Exclusive Encounter with Matthew Kondracki of Dark Echoes Paranormal"

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Episode Transcript

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this is a Jacob Paso here from

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talking with the source. I'm
here with my two best friends,
Sir Chris and Jonathan Keyworth
of JK 47 Paranormal
Investigations. How are you
guys doing? Good man. There's
one is Wante's World. Welcome
my brother. What is that? I'm
doing good. I'm doing good.

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Doing good. Doing good. Awesome.
Awesome. Well, we're looking
forward to having Juan Tion next
week. We're going to be
having him over some stuff soon
but today we have an amazing
guest man. I've been waiting to
have him on for the whole
entire week. It's been a long
week waiting with this new job
and everything. So, I'm happy
that it's finally here but we

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had on an amazing team about
two weeks ago, Dark Echoes
Paranormal TV show. Well, we
have the host and producer
here. We have Dark Echoes in
the chat right now. Let me
pull him forward though. Hold
on. Here's Matt. Matt, what is
up my brother? What's going on?

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What's going on? Hey, everybody.
What's up, man? Oh, I see the
ladies are in there. Tammy and
Stacey. Good to see you guys.
How's it going? Yeah. Yeah. So,
happy to have all of you guys
here. This is great. So, uh
first thing I want to say man
is thank you so much for
coming out and spending the
moment with us. This is going
to be a great day. Appreciate

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you. Like I said, in the last
podcast I did, I was not going
to do anymore podcast but the
way you guys treated the ladies,
I would say, you know what? I'm
going to let me get on with this
guy. They treated the girls with
respect and I will come on here
and and and talk about whatever
they want to talk about. So, I
just want to say thank you for
treating the girls with respect.
Oh, anytime, anytime. They're

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amazing ladies, amazing ladies.
You're very lucky to be working
with some amazing ladies that
really care about this field
and they're going to be
amazing ladies, you know? You
won't be saying that when they
go to Walmart in the middle of
the midnight and then they
throw stuff in your face when
you're trying to sleep.
Yeah.
There you go. It's it's I love

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every moment of it because every
time we go somewhere who when
those three girls get together,
I don't know what's going to
happen and now they convert,
they converted another girl
that we're we're going to be
working with next year and now
they're going to be doing a
making thing. It's like, oh,
man. Oh my gosh. I love it.

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That's great. That's great. So,
go ahead, John. Oh, sorry.
Sorry. Go ahead, man. My
apologies. No, II. Like I said,
I never know what these girls
are going to do. So, I gotta I
gotta keep on my toes. Look at
Stacy saying who we would never
I love it. But um so first
question I wanted to ask you my

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friend, what is the most
cinematic part of all of this?
You know, being in behind the
scenes like not only behind the
scenes but also in front of the
camera but doing the camera
work yourself. What is it like
being a cameraman and like
having all this talent that you
have because I see your
pictures that you take and the
photos online are amazing but
the cameras you work with are
absolutely amazing. I mean,
tell me, what is it like? Just
this whole experience? So, when

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I was first doing this, I was
I was actually doing the
camera but I happened to go to
the studio and they invited me
a special guest and I went in
there and told them all about
what I was doing and then after
we got done, after I got done
talking, I had like, no lie, I
had 40 people come out to me.
They started asking me all these
questions and then all through

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this, all through the crowd,
this little tiny girl named
Scarlett manages to get her way
through the crowd and says,
hey, I'm an inspired, you know,
uh filmmaker. I would love to
do it. So, she gave me her
card and I gave her a chance
to do it and I said, she came
here and I said, okay, I'm
going to tear down, I'm going
to tear down the red and if you

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can put this together without
me helping you, I will give you
that chance and that girl took
that camera and put it right
back to Ray to start filming.
So, I took Scarlett under my
wing and she is the one behind
the camera when we're filming
the TV show. So, he's just what
she does with the camera. You
know, I I get so many

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compliments or you know, when
I'm filming, I'm always this
little thing holding that big
twenty pounder with all that
stuff. I go, she loves it. So,
yeah. All the all the amazing
cinematography work with with
the the DP director
photography. That's all
Scarlett's work. II give her
some hints. I tell her what to
do and she just nails it to a
team. But I know that you have
your background in it. So,

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that's why I had to ask and I
had to say it because I see
your photos on your page, man
and stuff you do. I mean, it's
just amazing. So, whatever you
have been teaching Scarlett,
you know, you're doing is
absolutely amazing. Yeah, I
know I I you know, a lot of
people like to say, I like to
lie about things. Everything
that I've ever done, it's

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always come to light. I will
never say something unless it's
happening. I will never talk
about a movie being made. I
will never talk about another
show being made unless it's
going to happen because a lot
of people post that stuff and
it never happens. So, I wanted
to make sure that the green

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light is lit. It happened. So,
I'm going to post about it and
so that's and and hey, how's it
going Amanda and and that's and
that's what it's all about.
It's yeah. And so, I learned
when we had COVID, I happened
to meet some of Hollywood's
biggest names. I'm not going
to drop their names because
they're my friends and I'm not
going to do that. Even if you

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don't, even if people think I'm
lying, that's fine. You have
the right to. So, we got
together and we were
participating. We were
practicing filmmaking. We were
practicing exposure. So, and
then, one day, I happened to
post a screenshot on on a color
page and this guy messaged me
and he says, hey, you know, you

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know, you know, the the the red
is a little bit too much. There's
too much greens and I'm like,
this guy really knows what he's
talking about. So, I privately
messaged him. I said, hey,
what's going on? You know, who
who are you and he was like, my
name is such and such and he
was like, well, I want a nine
DV and I happen to be talking
to Hollywood's biggest
colorist. This guy's behind

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Fast and the Furious. He's
behind all the Netflix, all the
Netflix color grades. So, this
guy's huge. So, when I meet
these people, I never asked him
to take my show. I never asked
him to do anything. I I I pick
their brains. I want to know
what you know and I keep
learning from this day over and

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over again. You stop learning
when you fail. Amen. That is
absolutely true. I just love
this background, dude. I I
don't know what you guys think.
I just love the background of
the creepy basement like I'm
wondering what that ground is
going to jump out of that black
space behind you. Seriously.

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And you know, Scarlet's coming
from. Yeah, right. She just
might magically. Yeah. But no,
I'm not going to do TikTok. I
had over 25,000 followers and
I'm not going to go into more
detail about that but I used to
have people make fun of me
because I have a studio in my
mom's basement. Why not? So, a

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lot of people made fun of me.
So, I said, okay, you want to
be a smart ass. I named my
studio, Mom's Basement Studio.
I love it. I love it. I love it.
Amen. Amen to mom, my man. Amen
to mom. I love it. I love it.
If you make fun of me or people

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tell me I can't do something,
you just push me in the
overdrive to say, you sure about
that? Yeah, I love it. I love
it. That's the motivation you
need. I also love the shirt,
dude. We get that on on your
website or something or. Yeah,
you can you can go on the the
Dark Echoes page and you can go
to

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the dark. I love it. I love the
background of it. Heck yeah. I
like it. I love it, dude. That's
awesome. We have we have one.
We have one with the with the
Grim Reaper and then we have
one with the Grim Reaper,
Justin Black. Um so, yeah and a
lot of people that uh this is
not um this is not a copyright
logo. When I get my stuff, I
make sure it's not copyrighted.

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So, I actually paid to to to
use this logo. So, it does
belong to us. Um so, a lot
of people are like, oh, I'll
take care of that. Okay. I
think what you want. So, yeah.
Yeah. So, this this is why I
paid for my logo. It was 200
bucks. So, I typed in non

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copyright and then I happen to
find this and then I happen to
find the one in the back. I'm
like, I love these and and I and
I you know, I contacted the
people uploaded. I said, hey,
you know, can I use this? They
said, oh, absolutely. That's
awesome. That's awesome. That's
great. So, tell our other
viewers a little bit about
yourself. So, tell our other
viewers a little bit about

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yourself. So, I've been in the
film industry since 2010. Uh I
started uh I started one
company called 3 View Films.
Obviously, it didn't work out
but that's okay. I happen to
make a a film about teen
drinking and driving that went
to a bunch of schools. It was
amazing and the town of Enfield
got together and that's when I
met my friend Rob who worked

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out in Paramount Studios for
twenty years. He took me under
his wing. So, Rob, Rob is no
joke, Rob. Rob is a director.
He does not play games and he
he is blunt. So, when I saw,
when I showed him stuff, this
man was was harsh. He didn't
kiss my ass. He didn't say, oh,
that looks great. He was like,

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what the **** are you doing?
This
So, you know, I I I I I take
back like, okay, this guy's
blunt. I love it and that's
what I like about people. You
know, when people show me their
stuff, I'm blunt. I'm saying,
hey, it's garbage or why you
doing this or it's no good,

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you know, just be blunt like I
am, you know, if if you want to
be successful, listen to the
pros and take their advice
because if you don't, you're
just going to stay where you
are. Oh, exactly, man. That's
so amazing. Um so, I I want to
ask, dude, like, when was your
first paranormal experience?

(10:38):
What was it like for you? We we
have grown up in a house in
Woodside Locks. Uh when I was
younger, it was it was at that
time, the most haunted place
I've ever lived. I watched
shadow figures. I've watched
toys float. I've had our our
basement torn apart where
nobody was there. Cops came and
they checked for intruders and

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there was no intruders but
everything was thrown around.
Um we kind of grew up in it.
Um so, in 2006, god rest her
soul, she told me, you know, I
have a path to take. I'm either
going to go to the right or I'm
either going to go to the left.
One of them is going to lead a
normal life and one of them is
going to lead of, you know,

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hey, you're my luck. Yeah.
Obviously, you know, I I took
that path and I went to after
her funeral, I my friend took
me to this place and I started
feeling weird stuff and I
happened to um something in my
head say, take a picture and I
don't like to use this word. I
do not like to use this word at
all but I have the photo to back

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it up. Tammy see it. Everybody's
seen it. I have a real picture
of a demon that was standing
behind me when I took this
picture. Wow. Wow. And yeah.
That's a big word to say. It's
a big word to say as we were
talking about, you know, you
know, it's a big word to come
out with but I tell you what, I
I totally believe it because I
know Tammy and Stacy and I know

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they're great people and they
wouldn't be with you if you
didn't know. I don't know. I
don't know. There you go. I
don't have anything to gain to
lie. I don't I've been a
security. I okay, I've been I've
been security enforcement since
COVID of of March 15th of 2020.
I have a security background
and I have I have gone

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testimonies, you know, for a
court and stuff. Can't go into
more details about that but my
word is my bond and I have no
reason to lie. I'm I'm not
lying. I'm not lying. I'm not
lying. I'm not lying. Go on. So
how did you link the film and
the paranormal? I mean,
obviously, so, the good filming,

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not like the crappy, you know,
like, I'm just walking through
a haunted house. kind of. So, I
decided to I decided to shoot a
horror film in 2023. It was
called Jojo and it was it was
going great. I learned so much
stuff with filming. I met so
many more people and the ending
was like, oh, I can't I can't

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have this because, you know, we
all worked hard for it and if I
show this in the ending, I
can't I can't do that. Yeah.
Guys, let's say hi to Steve in
the medium. This guy's an
amazing. You're going to see
him a lot on Dark Echoes. We
uh I've got some stuff to tell
you more about him in a minute.
So, when um when the show when

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it didn't happen, I I kept
telling my good friend, Chuck,
that I'm going to do a show
like, you know, kind of
cinematic, you know, really
bringing the stories, you know,
bringing people and I said,
yeah, I'm going to do a
paranormal show. Well, when I
first, when I first started it,
I shot three episodes and they
made it to Amazon and uh I

(13:47):
sent it to my friends in
Hollywood and I said, hey, tell
me what you think because I put
it out there. I put it out. I
put it out there for the
audience to tell me, hey, you
know, give me your feedback.
Obviously, a lot of people
don't want to give you the
feedback. I'm fine. I'm fine.
I'm fine. So, I sent my friends
in the industry and one of my
friends called me and said,
Matt, we're going to have a

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five-hour conversation. Sure.
Absolutely. And he told me, he
goes, look, what you're doing,
you gotta stop. He's like, you
gotta revamp the show. I'm
like, okay, well, give me
people. What? And and and
that's fine. And he goes and he
goes, I'm just going to tell
you right now. I know a lot of
people are going to tell me
they they don't like, you know,

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the show, you know, the
experience with Ghost
Adventures. That is the number
one paranormal show out there
and he knows what he's doing.
He's an amazing filmmaker. He
did what we did. He took a
camera, shot something, and and
and build an empire and that's
what we're doing. We're we took
a camera and we're building an
amazing show. So, he said, he's

(14:51):
like, look, stop having, you
know, people walk around the
mediums. They're they're they're
they're they're they're they're
the way you interact with
people, you've gotta be on
camera more and I'm like, oh,
crap, here we go.
They said, do more b-roll, you
know, when people are talking,
show some b-roll and then I was
like, okay, I see where this is

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going. So, then and then and
then they go, they go, Matt,
the investigation part, it's
not scary enough. I'm like,
well, what do you mean? They're
like, we can see everything,
you know, with the night vision.
They're like, okay, they're
like, just think about, you
know, the number one movie that
was POV Blair Witch Project.

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Yeah. They were given $12,000
from Paramount to shoot this
film and now they're billion
is. So, that's just, you know,
they had the opportunity, they
did it, they nailed it, and now
it's to me, I think one of the
most amazing point of view
camera back in the day. Well,
that that was one of the most
amazing things I've ever seen.

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I saw it in a dingy theater. It
was horrible. Yeah. So, when I
was on the phone with him, he
was like, okay, Matt, I want
you to close your eyes. I'm
like, okay, I close my eyes. He
goes, what do you, he's like,
what do you see? I was like,
it's nothing but dark. I was
like, okay. And they're like,
well, what do you look for in
the dark? I'm like, well, you're
looking for light and they're
like, aha. They go now, take a

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camera, put a light on it, and
just walk around the house and
you're like, I'm going to put
it on your computer and see the
difference and I was like, holy
**** That's what I'm talking
about. So, now, with the new
episodes that are on
Paraplex and soon to be Amazon,

(16:36):
they're just taking their sweet
times uploading it. There's no
more nightmare. I I color grade
it like the Blair Witch. I give
it that cinematic quality. I
give it like the film I make it
so it doesn't look digital. You
know, it's it's it's when you
watch the when you watch the
beginning, it's all it's it's
I'm filmed on red and then the

(16:57):
cannon and so with my color
grading skills that I keep
learning every day, it's not
like it's not like you see on
on YouTube. It's not it's not
digital. It it doesn't look
digital. The sound is
professional and because I like
the scene, I'm able to bring it
down to make you believe it's

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not digital without without
without crushing them. I love
it. And then we're sponsored by
amazing people with their
equipment. Lauren Helkerson,
Dave Giuliani, NCPD, John
Mallory, Troy Dixon, Ghost of
Augustine, Gary Golka. So, when

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we use their equipment, you can
see the colors. Yeah. Yeah,
that's what I use. I just use
the the that's the only piece
of equipment I use when I do my
live sessions. I love it. I
highly recommend the SB seven
pro. You went muting. I'm

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muted. Not near you. Oh, I I
used the SB seven pro by Gary,
the ADF processor by Gary and
his new ANC speaker that's that
just came out. Yeah. And we've
been there for a while. We were
filming in Cape Cod. I've been

(18:22):
to this place and I wanted to I
wanted to film there again
because I wanted to give memory
of my good friend Kirk that we
when we did the investigations.
Hey, Nicole, how's it going? Um
so, I was practicing, I was
practicing with the with the
with the the ADF processor and
a clear across the box.
Somebody says, you're not Megan

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and I'm sitting there like, what
the hell is Megan? So, I went
over to the owner and I said,
hey, that's my daughter. I was
like, oh, is she alive? Like,
yeah, she's she's right down on
the street. You want me to call
her out? I'm like, well, the
spirits want her. Hell, yeah.
Yeah. So, this this girl was
not part of the filming. She,
we didn't even know that it was
going to happen. So, she got

(19:03):
there. We miced her up. We did
the interview. I said, tell me
who this voice is. She goes,
oh, that's the guy who died to
you. I know him very well. So,
wow. So, and this is where the
mediums come in. We have some
of the best mediums on the
internet. We have a lot of
mediums do. There's a lot of
out there. Do you? But the
mediums that we have are legit.

(19:24):
They are real. Um so, I work
with Steven in a couple
episodes before and I wanted
him on the Cape Cod episode and
so when he came in there, he
did what he did and then we
walked over into the dining
room where the where the
daughter was and her son was,
you know, off place. Yeah. And
the minute he walks over, he

(19:46):
goes, oh, that's my mom. And I
can't I can't I might butcher
the name because I I forget
but it's it's probably not the
name but he looks over and
goes, oh, who's Mary? And the
girl goes, oh, that's my mom.
It wasn't even part. It wasn't
even part of the the show. So,
I said, get her mic'd up and
let she needs to come through.

(20:06):
She needs to come through. So,
when we're going through,
Steven's nailing everything and
she's confirming everything. So,
I'm going to tell you what's
going on in my mind on the last
filming on top of the attic.
He looks and looks at her and
goes, they keep telling me
there's twins. Who's twins? And
she goes, I have a twin sister.

(20:27):
What?
Yeah. That's amazing. That is
amazing. I'm telling you, I'm
telling you, when you watch
these episodes, this is all
you're going to see with me.
Yeah. Nobody can confirm this.

(20:47):
She gets all the locations.
What this girl does, nobody can
beat what she does. She gets
locations. They drop the fees
because you know, we're when we
come to when we come to film,
we ain't bringing a little
cheap stuff. We're bringing
production filming. Yeah. So,
when when she gets these
locations, I know nothing about
it. I just know when I'm
driving there. That's all I

(21:08):
know. And I listen to the
stories. That's when I know
that I'm hearing everything.
And and so when Hey, how's it
going? So, when I get there and
then so the mediums could come,
you know, blindfold or not
blindfold but they still don't
know where they're going until
until it's time. Well, we worked

(21:31):
with Greg Gregor Nicholson, my
first time working with this
guy. We were in Palmyra, New
York at a museum. This guy comes
in. He came in blindfolded.
Didn't know where he was going.
He was working with his wife. So,
she knew where she was driving.
So, he comes in and before we
couldn't even get going, he's

(21:51):
spit firing. I'm like, oh, this
guy's, this guy's quick. Yeah.
Well, I said, we gotta get him
mic'd up and he just started
spit firing and then I looked
at and I was like, okay, we gotta
get the owner back in. I said,
okay, let's get the owner mic'd
up and we'll get the owner mic'd
up and he's saying stuff and
she's confirming stuff. Well, I
can't go into details but
there's something on the

(22:12):
background that I don't know
where anywhere. So, Greg comes
in and he goes, I need to go to
this certain spot right now. We
go down there, okay? And we get
the camera set up and it's
unfortunately, it's not gonna
be, it's not gonna be on the
show. It's gonna go to the
owner because we, you know, we
follow what they respect. Yeah.
So, we got rolling and we set

(22:36):
action and the minute we said
that, we're gonna go to this
basement. off camera is me and
the owner like this.
You didn't drop the camera.
Well, no, cuz you know,
Scarlett, Scarlett's, Scarlett's
doing the camera. Thank god,

(22:56):
Scarlett's holding it cuz I
always drop the camera. I always
drop the camera. I would be
like, what'd you just say?
Exactly. So, it's what these
mediums do. I'm telling you,
it's what we have. Um after the
season finale, we, I'm not
gonna say nothing about that
because I want people to watch

(23:17):
that. We filmed at Wildwood.
It's not gonna be about
Wildwood. It's gonna be about
something that's related to
Wildwood and it's it's gonna be
an amazing episode and I'm
dedicating it to somebody and I
I'm it's it's wait till you
guys watch that episode. It's
gonna be absolutely amazing.
So, on the way home, we got

(23:37):
to the
store and we got there and we

(23:59):
got to start rolling. Okay? We
gotta start rolling. So, we
have, so now, with what the new
with the new series, the owners
now come through is what the
walkthrough to confirm stuff
that we're gonna be doing.
Okay? So, the minute we set
action, are you guys ready for
this? And I didn't know this.
He looks at the owner and says,
I'm so sorry about your sister
dying of breast cancer. Oh my

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god. Wow. The owner had, she
didn't know what to say.
Throughout the whole filming,
she is just speechless and then
they have old record players
and he went over and touched
one and goes to her and says,
oh, your father loves that you
know, he loves you.
What do you think? Don't you

(24:40):
love that? Like, like seeing
that happen. Isn't that the most
amazing thing? Right? And she
comes up to me cuz you know, we
we don't we don't we don't film
walking upstairs. You don't
need to see people's butts. We
cut. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We bring
the camera up there and we
continue where we left off. So,
she's like, she's like, Matt,
you know, I feel like I I look

(25:01):
stupid. I'm like, no. You, you
know, I'm not gonna show the
audience. This is legit. This is
real and there's nothing fake
about it. So, now, hey, demon
house in the house. What's up,
Jay? So, what's up, brother? I
decided to do something even
differently. You know,

(25:22):
throughout throughout the first
season, you know, we did two on
two. Yeah. Well, now, I started
doing solos. So, it's just the
camera person and the
camera guy. I'm like, I'm gonna
do it somewhere. So, now,
something happens. You can
never say something stays. It's
it's fake and in the way that I

(25:44):
cut back and forth, I'm telling
you, all the new stuff you guys
are gonna love. That's I can't
I'm I'm I'm I can't wait. I I
wanna see it. Can't wait. I
mean, just the way that you
guys do stuff is like I like we
were talking back. I mean, it's
one of the most professional
things that I've seen
happening to people like as as
well as the other ladies too.

(26:05):
Like, it's just amazing to have
such a great group of
personalities together working
on something that they love and
and just seeing that love in
your guy's eyes doing this is
what what inspires me and
motivates me. You know, so, I
think. Yeah. We, you know, I
also too with off season and I
wanna do a mini series called

(26:26):
coming together. Mm. All this
stuff together. It's gotta
fucking stop. I feel like. I
feel like I'm in high school.
Yeah. Right. Yeah. The the
clicks. You got different
clicks. We're all in it
together. Some people have more
success than others but you

(26:47):
shouldn't be hating that person.
You should, you know, it's just
I'm not gonna go more detail
about that but everybody just
needs to get their egos, put it
in the box, and let's just have
fun. Exactly. And that's it.
Yeah. I am filming. I am
refilming Jojo. I'm super
excited about that. We've
already got locations locked

(27:07):
down. Uh Rob is gonna be the
director and we've already got
casting going on. My email is
blown up like there's no
tomorrow when people wanna be,
you know, Kelly and and Nikki.
So, I'm also. I know, right
here. So, I'm I'm I'm
constantly busy. I'm busy
editing. I'm busy doing with
this. I'm busy with meetings.

(27:29):
I'm busy, you know, I do have
meetings with other, you know,
platforms and I have another
meeting with another network
and if the network meets my
demands, I'm gonna sign to
them. Yeah. Yeah. And that's
all it's to it. That's awesome.
That's awesome. It's plain and
simple. Black and white, man.
I am and and and and you know,
people are probably gonna say,
you know, I'm being a little,

(27:50):
you know, egotistic and I'm not
because we all worked hard. My
crew worked hard. We are the
best. We are the best. We are
the best. We are the best.
Networks one. Hey. That's so
good, dude. To hear. You know,
what? That's so awesome to hear.
You know, it makes me mad that

(28:10):
people will get upset by you
saying that because it
motivates me when I see friends
of like mine going this far and
getting this far up. You know
what I mean? Because it's
beautiful, man. I think it's
great. It takes motivation. I
mean, and it's it shows me
like my friends can do it, I
can do it. You know what I
mean? And that's something that
I think is really important to
be a very egotistical type
person, you know, about what

(28:31):
you just said but I think it's
beautiful, man. I think that
you you have to have that
passion. You have to have that
love, you know, speaking about
Gregory, he's in the house.
Gregory, good to see you,
brother. Can't wait to work
with you again. Right there.
What's up, Gregory? So, and I
want to address something too.
I had an amazing talk with two
two people last night and and I
think I should address it. You

(28:51):
know, my emails and Tammy could
be on the show. They're blown
up with everybody who wants to
be on the show. They want to be
on a show. They want to be on
the show. Okay, we get you on
the show. Cool. But here's
something that that really
bothers me and I don't care. I
don't care about me. You know,
I want the girls to be able to

(29:11):
do this or whatever. All these
people who were on our show,
they're doing events, they're
looking for investigators.
Where's our invite? Yeah. Yeah.
I'm just saying, you have no
idea what's going on with my
show but we don't get any
invites. That's not right. No,

(29:32):
that's not it. So, season two,
no more guests. It's all done.
Yeah. Hey, you know what? You
can you know, you it's all you
can do. You gotta do. You gotta
do. Of it. You know, people
take advantage for kindness for
your for your weakness and it's
really not that thing, you
know, and and the people take
generosity and they just totally
ruin it sometimes and you know,
you really can't, you just can't

(29:53):
deal with it. You have to put
yourself in the shoes of the
guy you're doing what you're
doing and I and I agree with it,
you know? Yes. Yeah. Like. Yeah.
And that's why you have to go
to the actual places, you know,
talk to the actual people that
own the property as opposed to
going to these outside
companies that that are charging

(30:14):
you know, explicitly more money
you know, to investigate these
places. Just go to the actual
people that own the property.
I'll give you. I found out that
we're doing investigations
during the weekdays is a lot
cheaper than the weekends. Oh
yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's

(30:36):
it's just you know, it goes
both ways, you know, if if
you're gonna be on my show,
then we should be have the
respect to be invited to your
events or you know, if you're
looking for people to
investigate, I'm an
investigator, Tammy's an
investigator, Stacey's an
investigator, you know, it
goes. Look, I'll I'll be dead

(30:57):
honest with you and the girls
will tell you, I rather them
be in the spotlight or doing
their thing. I've done
paranormal for years. I'm a
host. I don't care. I want I
want them to be out there more
and the one thing that bothers
me is when when the girls do an
amazing job at what they do,
you don't need to give me

(31:18):
credit and I don't care but
it'd be a cold day in hell
for them to be out there doing
their thing and you know, it's
for what they're doing. Yeah.
Exactly. Amen, brother. You
said it, dude. Cuz they work
and they work really hard. I
mean, just I just know that. I
mean, just from speaking from
Tammy all the time now online.
I mean, I I just see her,
Stacey and you know, I don't

(31:38):
get to talk to Scarlett too
much but I talk to Tammy and
Stacey a lot and I tell you,
just great, just such great,
great people and just getting
me to Scarlett on last time we
had them, you know, them all
on was just amazing as well and
she seems like such an amazing
person and I understand where
you're coming from. You know,
it it can really eat you up
inside, you know? I totally get
that. I totally get that. That's

(31:59):
family. That's family. Yeah,
it's family. Because if it
wasn't for them, you wouldn't
be able to have your stuff
seen. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly.
Now, tell me on your on your
guy's season so far, what would
you say on your first season?
What would you say is one of
the most craziest things that
you witnessed that maybe didn't

(32:21):
happen to you? Which one would
it be? So, we we happen to film
refilm at Bath PA and it didn't
get it didn't get captured on
camera because we were just
getting ready to start the
camera in the dining room.
There's a shelf that's tacked
to the wall. I mean like bolted
to the wall with expensive
wine glasses that's been there

(32:42):
for 20 years and before we said
action, there was a loud crash
sound. We all ran in there. Me
and my wife, if you ever in
Bath PA, check out the Bath
Exchange. You're going to love
the food. You're going to love
the bar and she's an amazing
person if you ever get to go
out there and see her. So, we
go over there. The shelf is

(33:03):
thrown off the wall. All the
expensive glasses are broken
and I went over there to look
at it. You have to physically
go up and over to pull this off
the wall. Well, yeah. So, you
know, we all looked at each
other and Stacy, we all looked

(33:24):
at each other like, what the
**** was that? So, we all go
running and I'm like, you
couldn't wait till we turned
on the camera? I know. I would
have to say that's the most
awesome experience but I would
have to say Wildwood was also
amazing when we filmed there
the first time. Driving six
hours. Hey, man, this man had
the pee. So, I come in. I meet

(33:46):
the owner. He says, hey guys, I
have a pee on the bottom floor
right across the hall. Up top
of the stairs is the sunlight
beaming through the window. I
happen to look down and I see a
figure like a shadow like, you
know, going back and forth. I'm
like, well, okay, well, I got a
pee. So, I'll I'll dress that
in a minute. I come back out.
Brooke's looking at me and I'm

(34:07):
looking upstairs and she goes,
you saw the shadow, didn't you?
I'm like, yeah, I I I did. That
was in my screen. That was
cool to see that before I went
upstairs. I didn't know there
was a shadow figure on top of
the stairs and it was like,
bam, there it was. I was like,
oh, wow. So, that was that was

(34:28):
the coolest thing. Um we uh
Starlet had had her uh
encounter. Uh she was filming
uh the last segment at Wildwood
and um she was a little nervous.
Uh she's never done. She's
never, that was the first time
doing something big like the
paranormal and she took me
aside and said, Matt, I can't
do this no more. I'm a little
nervous. I'm a little nervous.

(34:49):
Tammy took over camera and I
kid you not, the minute we took
Starlet out of the equation,
all the paranormal activity
stops. No crap. That's crazy,
man. Where where is Wildwood?
What what state is that? I am I
am going to butcher this. I,
when you watch the show, I
butcher names. I I ask people
their names. It's twenty

(35:10):
different times. It's hilarious.
I'm the same. Salamanca, New
York, New York. Alright, alright.
Now, now, wait, I want to ask
you a question. What was your
theory of why all that happened
with Scarlet Buff? I think
Scarlet was putting out a
little bit too much fear. Okay.
And she was nervous. Thank you,

(35:31):
Stacey. Oh, thank you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got
your back. I got the help me
out and they laugh when I
butcher people's names. It's
it's it's hilarious. Hey, I'm
I'm not. I'm not, I'm not. I'm
not. Um the spirits were
feeding off her negativity. I
mean, I mean, feeding off her

(35:51):
fear, sorry feeding off her
fear. Yeah. Yeah. And they were
using that to energize and when
we took her out of the equation,
there was nothing. Yeah. That's
what I would have said too. I
would have thought that as well
because you know, she had fear
coming out of her. Definitely
the energy that's probably
amped up for all the spirits.
You know what I mean? And then
taking that energy for us out
of there for them may have may

(36:11):
have obviously you know, taken
you. Speaking of our amazing
DP. Hi, guys.
You had to drag her in, dude.
You're like, come on. I thought
she was gonna come from behind
you. I know. That was a black

(36:31):
area. From the dark. So, we're
just talking about, we're just
talking about Wildwood and how
when you were up in the the
room and the you, the spirits
fed off your fear. Yeah.
And then the other podcast, but
yeah, like, I was new to
investigating. It was just
really intense there and like,
people are provoking and like,
it was just a new environment

(36:52):
for me and like, I got like,
really hot and like, I thought
I was gonna faint and um, yeah,
I had to tap out. I went
outside. Hi, Stacy. Um and yeah,
it was crazy too cuz we're on
like, native land and there's
actually people like chanting
and singing outside. So, I
don't know if that like, you
know, played into how powerful

(37:13):
it was. Yeah. No, that that
that's one thing I'll do before
any investigation because I
don't know the land. I don't
know what was there before me.
I'll always pay tribute to him.
I'll always let him know I'm
coming in with uh warm heart,
you know, and and good
intentions and and that's what

(37:34):
makes the investigations uh so
successful with myself is is
that we're not allowed to go
back to our land before we got
here. So, we don't do any
provoking on the show. I will
not allow it. Uh I do not allow
any faking. Um if Scarlett
catches somebody faking, Tammy
catches somebody faking, they

(37:54):
will come to me and if you
drove six hours, happy six
hours home. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I don't get why people would do
that. Yeah, I don't understand
what this is. This is not
YouTube. Sorry, this is not
YouTube. I'm not saying I'm
Colby or those other guys or
Toby and whatever is they

(38:16):
know. You know, it's sad that
YouTube has to be like that. It
really is but you know what?
Like I said, great, great
investigators like yourself,
people who really put the work
into it, you know, really it
shows what you know, real
investigation is and that's
what I like to see and that's
why I loved you guys from the
start. It's the reason why I
invited the girls on um is
because I loved what I saw and
I loved what you guys are

(38:38):
doing and I loved the way you
guys put together something
unique and that's something
that I like to see in this
field is something unique
happening and the way that you
guys just put it together and
the stuff that Scarlett that
he's teaching you and that you
have learned. I mean from the
camera. I mean that's just
amazing to be able to put up
put together a red on your
first time. I mean, I would
think I would struggle with
that. That's awesome. I know.

(38:59):
Just just like when you guys,
when you guys go behind the
scenes, it's just like you see
the camera. It's just like
what? Well, when we film, when
we film the the movie, she's
going to experience movie
production setup camera. Yeah,
I'm excited for that. I've done
like student and independent

(39:19):
films but two, I'm super
excited to work with like
special effects and stuff like
that like, you know, makeup and
things but yeah, that is going
to be awesome, Scarlett. I'm so
happy for you. That's so
great. Yeah, that's cool.
Thank you. Thank you. I'm
extremely grateful. I just I
just pray for the actors. Get
ready for Rob because Rob.

(39:40):
Whoo hoo hoo. Oh yeah. Don't
play. Hey, you know what
though? You need somebody like
that. You need somebody like
that to be blunt to you and
tell you straight up what's
going on because there's no
other way to be in life than
to be like that. In my opinion,
that's how I grew up, you
know, I like people to be
straightforward with me. Tell
me what the deal is. If you
like it or you don't because
the only way you're going to
learn is through constructive

(40:00):
criticism. You know what I
mean? You're going to find that
person that's there, you know,
pushing you and motivating you
in the way like that, you know?
You know, you know, it's so
weird and it's just like when
you go out somewhere and
somebody recognizes you, it's
just like, it's so weird like
when when the Amazon driver
came here and I was getting my
package, he goes, hey, I know

(40:21):
you. I'm like, oh, I'm like,
you're you're on the show of
Dark Echoes. I'm like, yeah,
absolutely and I went over to
the truck and I got him a
camera. I'm like, I'm going to
get you a camera. People don't
believe me. So, and I gave it
to him. We we we when we were
going to New York, Paul Myra,

(40:42):
we happened to stop at a rest
stop and there was army people
got god bless them and I went
up there and I respected them.
I anytime I see a Navy officer
or or a person with their hat
on, I will always shake their
hands. Say, thank you for your
service and I shook this guy's
hand and he goes, hey, you know,
hey, I'm mad of Dark Echo. He
said, hey, I'm mad of Dark

(41:02):
Echo. That was cool. What? That
was cool. We had all the, yeah,
we had all the army people and
and we gave them postcards.
They took pictures. It was
awesome. That is awesome, man.
That's what I am, man. I'm a
I'm a veteran. JK 47. I got
that from the AK 47. So, yeah,
I served 2001 to 2005. Iraq. I

(41:23):
was part of the initial evasion.
First ones into Fallujah. So,
yeah, I tell you what, our army
people don't get enough credit.
So, I do the same thing every
time I see someone with a a
veteran's hat on or anything
like that, I make sure to go
up to them as well because I
tell you what, it's sad that,
you know, we we have people in
this country that are suffering
that are that are have served

(41:45):
this country and that are
suffering on the side of the
streets sometimes begging for
change that bothers me so much
because of what they gave for
our lives, you know, for our
freedom and so it's always
great to give back to them as
much as we can, you know.
Yeah, I think that's great.
I just shake the the people who
did like, you know, um, war
war and all that stuff. Yeah.
Yeah. Like, they're they're

(42:07):
they're when you shake their
hands, they thank you. You can
just see the gratitude. They're
smiling. Yeah. They're
emotional about it because
they're like, we didn't get
this when we came home,
especially Vietnam, stuff like
that, you know, like people,
older people, they are just
like, it's a whole different
ball game. It really is and it
just, it's so great to see
sometimes, you know, to see
that warm love that you can
give them and them to be happy

(42:28):
and to be able to imagine, you
know, and even just talking to
John knowing him and what he
went through, I mean, was an
experience in itself. I
couldn't even imagine being
over there going through that,
you know what I mean? I
can't imagine. but you know,
well, hell, dude. Here, I'll
show you. Right here. Let me
pull it up.

(42:51):
So, these are three expended
rounds from the three major
veterans right here that stuck
in my my plate in the center of
my chest from an IED. Yeah. I
tell you what, man. My respects
are to the World War One,

(43:11):
World War Two veterans, the
Vietnam veterans. They didn't
have the equipment that we had,
you know, to save save
ourselves. So, that's where my
hats off to my grandmother's
fiance. He he would never tell
me that he was going to win
awards and he was actually one
of the first one of the first

(43:33):
responders who went into the
Hiroshima after they bombed it.
Wow. That's amazing. I couldn't
imagine that. Well, thank you
so much for his service, you
know. Yeah. So, when I'm going
to say, so when you guys watch
the show, it's just it's raw. I

(43:53):
don't edit out anything that I
don't add stuff that doesn't
need to be added and it's just
the amazing, you know,
opportunity to work with them
and and see them grow and the
mediums. Oh my we again with
with the Gregory episode, we
had Brimstone. He's he's he's
an old wrestler and he does a

(44:14):
bunch of he's he's well known.
Yeah. So, this guy's like this.
Yeah. When it came time to the
investigation, he tapped out
and he's like, I don't think I
don't think he's like, he's
like, look, I came on here,
open-minded. I didn't know if

(44:35):
this if this was real or not
real but you are one of the
realest people I've ever met.
You have shown me the
paranormal exist and I'm super
honored to to be part of this
but I am not investigating.
Yeah. Wow. That is awesome,
dude. You know, and then at the
end, at the end of the episode,
I interviewed him and I said,
I'm going to investigate and he

(44:56):
tells. Yeah. She had we had an
experience too during during
B-roll when we were in the we
were in the bar in the living
room but that that used to be a
bar back in the day and women
weren't allowed. So, when we
were getting done doing a B-
roll, I said, Scarlett, you
good? And she's like, yeah, I'm
good and then right behind her

(45:16):
with our own ears, there was a
man goes, she's like, yeah, I'm
good. I don't blame you. Now,
I want to ask you that question
which you already kind of
answered for us was you do all
the editing yourself. Obviously,
you do all the all of that,
correct? Yep. So, is that
something that you tell networks

(45:36):
right away? Like, listen,
nobody's touching our stuff. We
are the ones that are doing it.
Is that how you guys go? Can't
go into much detail but I did
have one of the biggest networks
reach out to me. We had a nice
meeting. Uh they were going to
give me a lie detector test.
We want you and we want you to
get rid of everybody and I

(45:57):
said, absolutely not and I will
you can put me on a lie
detector test because a lot of
people says I'm a lot of people
says I'm full of **** I will
not give up them. I will not
give up my show. I will not
give up the rights. So, the
next network I have a meeting
with, I told them, we just need
to be funded. I don't need any
of your crew. I don't need

(46:18):
anything but just to be funded
and I'm going to be doing it.
Wow, that's great. Well, I
don't because watch her grow to
what she does. Yeah. It's ****
nine blowing. Tammy too with
audio. That girl can, that girl
knew **** about audio. She knew
nothing. She knows how to place
the microphones. She knows how

(46:40):
to listen for stuff that
shouldn't be there to stop the
filming before it messes up the
whole scene and she knows how
to fix the problem. She knows
how to fix the problem. She
knows how to fix the problem.
I took people who knew nothing
about filming where if I had a
hundred thousand dollar job, I
could send Scarlett and I could
send Tammy and I know I'll get

(47:01):
the product back. You know why?
You know why that is? Is because
they trust you. They love you
and they'll do whatever they
can to make sure that that that
you continue to do what you do
and my hats off to you for that
brother. You you're doing
great. You're doing great. You
know, just the whole team

(47:22):
itself, like all of you, the
ladies and you and everything,
it wouldn't be the show without
all of you. It wouldn't be, you
know, and I understand why you
turned down that that whole
offer because I couldn't see
Dark Echoes without all of you
guys. You know what I'm saying?
I really couldn't picture it.
So, I'm glad that you did do
that. You know, that that shows
authenticity of yourself and as
investigators and shows your

(47:43):
true self to your friends, you
know, people you love and
you know, you love to have
people come on, give us new
perspectives, get to meet new
friends, you know, get to make
make, you know, great
conversations and great bonds
with people like yourself and
uh it's just been an amazing
time to have you guys on, man.
I mean, I I wanna go longer but
I know that you only have an

(48:03):
hour. Yeah. Well, I can go to
840. We're okay. Okay. So,
what people people didn't know
and I never talk about my
health issues but throughout
the whole season of Dark Echoes
and I was in pain. I blew out
my back L5 S1. Oh. And I was

(48:24):
in so much pain but these
ladies will tell you, I got the
job done and they and when I
and when I was done doing my
stuff, they took over the
paranormal filming cuz they
knew I was hurting and they did
an amazing job. When somebody
goes down, we step up and we and
we and we work together. We
don't fight. We don't argue.
Uh Scarlet Scarlet went down

(48:47):
and we got the show going and
that and that was it. And
family, family, it's not like
I said, what you, people wanna
know what blood, sweat, and
tears is. Try filming a season
with a blown out back. Driving.
Yeah, exactly. 11 hours, 10
hours, and a vehicle. That's
how much I didn't wanna let

(49:08):
these girls down. Yeah. And
that's the love, man. That's
the heart. That's the, that's
the energy, you know? And it's
part of that, that that clog or
you know, sprocket isn't
working. You pick it up for the
other one and and that's that's
amazing, dude. And I'm so glad

(49:28):
you have that in your team.
Yeah. Now, like Scarlet. Oh,
sorry. Go ahead, Matt. Go ahead.
Sometimes, you're like, hey,
Matt, you know, I need to take a
break for a little bit. You
know, I wanna get something,
you know, I wanna get some
drinks, you know, some water
and stuff. Can you film the
paranormal? You even wanna blow
the candles? Now, Scarlet, tell
me if there's one thing you

(49:48):
could say that you've learned
the most from working with Matt
and the rest of the ladies, what
could it be? What what would it
be? The biggest thing you've
learned. Well, unlike I'm not a
technical level, probably like
reciprocation, like, you know,
like, like we were just talking
about, like, you know, if
someone can only give like 20%,
you know, everyone else will

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give the rest and like, that's
something I truly like learned,
like, you know, respect and
like, you know, even if the
other person's not around,
you're still there to like, you
know, have their back and like,
put a good word in for them.
Um and yeah, just hard work and
like, you know, like, I always
see them too like, this is not
the only thing that they focus
on, you know, they have other

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things that they're working on
which I have so much respect
for like. That is awesome. How
about you, Matt? What is the
one thing that you that you
learned the most working with
with the team? Comes, you know,
with the, you know, obviously,
you know, there's the drama and
we all stick together. We don't
we don't trash each other. We

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were there for each other. Um
Tammy's car was down. I still,
I just got my back injections
but I know she needed her
vehicle. I got out there, did
what I had to do to get her up
and running again even though I
was hurting, still got it done.
So, we we all work together as
a family and we're all there,
you know, for each other's, you

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know, like, you know, family
passing and you know, just
feeling depressed and sad. You
know, we can always call each
other and know that we're always
going to be there no matter
what. If some if somebody breaks
down, we're going to be there.
If somebody's hurting, we're
going to be there and and I hate
to tell you, you're not going
to see that anywhere with other
people but us. That's awesome.
That is absolutely number one,

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man. That was that's awesome.
That was awesome. He was on the
show. His name is Eli and he
actually had a near-death
experience that was very
intense and he was in a coma
for a month and stuff and it was
a pretty crazy. Oh, okay. He's
a great, great guy. Thank you
so much for tuning in and and

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definitely check out Dark Echo
is a perinal on on Amazon Prime
and also on Paraflicks.
Everybody who's watching who
hasn't who hasn't watched them
yet. I'm telling you what they
are talking about is 100% the
most amazing. They're so like
Scarlet are amazing. I mean,
it's just everybody, the host,
producer, you guys, all you

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guys are just, I'm so happy
that I got the chance to meet
you guys and you guys are from
my state. I mean, this is so
cool. You know, you're you're
you're a hot skip and a jump
away from them, dude. I know.
We also too when we were
filming the season finale, we
happen to work with two of the
most amazing people. Her name
and her name is Lindsay. She

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is a great cast member. I'm an
amazing girl to work with. We
also work with Jonathan. I
loved everything about these
beloved everything about her,
everything about John and then
at the end at the end of the
filming, I had a talk with
Tammy. I had a talk with Stacy.
I had a talk with Scarlet. I
invited them to be the new cast
members for season two with us.
Also, with Thomas, he he's he's

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one of our newest members. So,
we we we have a tight group
now. It's there's no more guest
members. We have all solos now.
So, there's no more teams and
it's just a camera person and
an audio person and person
investigating and what they
captured 100% real 100 100%
legit. We have amazing sponsors
we're going to continue working
with. Uh I have some new people

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who who have contacted me and
want their equipment seen on the
show. Absolutely. And Gary
Gary Gouka, that man's that man
is a legend at what he does.
He's a legend. 100. 100.
Amazing. The job with the
panda boxes. Awesome. I wanted
to ask, how is Gary Gouka's new

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ADP uh F processor? How is that
new processor? Tell me. That
that's the one that's the one
that I was using at Cape Cod
where the voice came through and
said, you're not Megan. Wow.
Oh my gosh. That's an amazing
device. I cannot wait to get my
hands on one. So, on the on the

(54:04):
radio, I was on the stick with
the ADP ADF processor and let
me tell you, you don't want to
miss this episode when it airs
because me and Tammy were
running back and forth with the
spirit and it was captured all
on the radio. Amazing. That's
awesome, dude. That's awesome.
See, that's crazy, man. Like, I

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do you guys do home cases? Do
you like places that have never
been seen? Um maybe, maybe, if
a good case comes to us, maybe
we'll do it in season two,
maybe we'll do it in season
three. I'm not sure. I do enjoy
the home cases because I I like

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to bring, you know, closure to
the family. II always love
that but right now, we have uh
Tammy's already got almost
season two booked. That's how
good she is. Awesome. You know,
the thing I love about the
thing I love about the thing I
love about the thing is that
they've never been explored

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before. So, you're more than
likely the first one that has
been to these homes and and I
that's what I did for my first
two years and and for the uh
fifteen places I went from
coast to coast. II got crazy
crap and and that's how AJ got
got a hold of me, you know,
because I was catching this

(55:25):
stuff and that's how I know, I
think that's the best place to
go. So, I just want to clear
something up. Guys, despite
what goes on, these guys are
amazing. They're they're very
humble people. Um they didn't
name the Enfield Demon House,
the Demon House for you know,
for clicks and views and people

(55:45):
to you know, animal planet
haunted episode five gave him
the title Demon House. So, they
just rolled with it. Nothing
wrong with that. That's how
they did it. Um I will tell
you, is it still haunted?
Absolutely. Is it what it was
like back in the day when I did

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it? No. Yeah. But you know, I
I people leave them alone. Let
them do what they. Yeah. Exactly.
Amen brother. You know, JLK and
the whole family are absolutely
amazing. I get to talk to them
every single day and I tell you
what, I, it kills me to see the
kind of stuff that they go
through with the kind of

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stuff that they do. They're
not doing it alone. It wasn't
their fault that they had the
name given demon in it or
anything along those lines.
They're not doing it. They were
from the production company.
They named it that. Exactly.
You know, and it's sad to see
that they get attacked for that
type of stuff but thank you so
much for sticking up for them
because they are such great
people. They talk very highly
of all of you. So, me and Jay,
we had our differences. Yeah. I

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called him up one time. I said,
Jay, we need to have, we never
ever sit down. I went over to
this man's house. He hashed it
out. I hash it out. This is how
we got together. We shook hands
and says, watered under the
bridge. Let's let's be friends
again and that's wonderful.
That's great. I sit down, shake
hands. We did an amazing event,
sold out. We might have

(57:09):
something in the works. October
19th. I know where I'm flying.
Right? Right? Yeah. Uh yeah. So,
it's gonna be, I guarantee,
it'll sell out again. 100%. I
also have a couple other events
that I'm working with. A couple
other locations that we filmed
before. Yeah. And and and here's
the thing and the thing is,

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we're all here to have fun.
Everybody does events. I'm not
an event company. We're we're
people on TV. We do meet and
greets. We do overnight
investigations. That's all we
are. And and that's it. So, and
we look forward to everybody
come on and just have a good
time. And that's what it's all
about. You know, we we have at
the Enfield Demon House, we had
amazing responses at the
Rope Light and it was all

(57:52):
captured with, you know, there
was there was over fourteen
people there. Everybody captured
it. Everybody was there. It was
all real. It was all real.
That's awesome. Totally. And
the best thing is, I always,
and I told everybody to make
sure you have airplane mold on.
So, there was no fault. Yeah.
That's what I always do. Yeah.
Very smart. Yep. Yeah. A lot of
people don't talk about that. A

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lot of people don't talk about
that. They just bring their
their phones in. They don't
think too much about that but
you know, it's crazy how much
the EMF will get picked up by
off of your phone like very
closely. You know? Like all
these, you know, nothing towards
you. You know, it's a place from
somebody who knows what they're
talking about. Yeah. You can't
go live using EMF meters, K2

(58:35):
meters, REM pods. It was, yeah,
it's crazy. Because every time
somebody, you know, talks to you
in the live, you're sending out
that frequency. You're
absolutely right. People don't
think frequency is very
powerful in the world of that
kind of stuff. We also, I also

(58:55):
found out that on our REM pods
that one time I was, you know,
I was pitting and the REM pods
are going off like, oh, I got
something. I'm like, well, wait
a minute. So, I said, hey, I
said, Tammy, pit your microphone.
I mean, pit your walkie and she
pit it. I was like, son of a
**** It's the walkie talkies.
So, now, we no longer have
walkie talkies on our show

(59:15):
because when people come on,
it's all real, baby. I love that.
Thank you. Yeah. And then, uh
uh Abby sanctuary **** told
taught me that the uh
frequencies from the walkie
talkies will even sense off
motion detectors as well. Yeah.

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It's so crazy how much
frequency can affect things,
you know, and people don't
realize it because it's hard
for us to detect it. It's hard
for us to see unless we have
these devices out and we we're
we have the knowledge of what
you guys are doing and what you
guys are doing and what you
guys are doing. I mean, tell me
what is one of the biggest
things that you've learned,
Matt, in the field of the

(59:57):
paranormal from the start now
to where you are now. Like,
what is something major that
you've learned besides the what
you just told us? The
negativity, the trashing, the
bashing has not stopped since
when I first got in this in
2006. It hasn't changed. It
hasn't changed. Has it gotten

(01:00:19):
worse? Has it gotten worse?
TikTok. You think they're
jealous? Well, with with
Discords, with secret groups,
and all that. Oh, yeah. It's
like I said, when I was on
TikTok, I was part of the
paranormal community. Probably
one of the most toxic I've ever
got into. You know, they had
secret discords where they
would go on your live and be
your friend and then they would
go to that discord and they

(01:00:41):
would trash you like you would
not freaking believe and I was
like, I'm the, I had it, I had
over 25, 000 followers. I
And I got all those people who says I was a fake producer. I was gonna do nothing
Look at where I am now and look where you're still on
Exactly, exactly, you know, and that's the thing. How about for you of Scarlett?

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What is one of the biggest things you've learned so far from you're starting to paranormal till now?
Even though you like you told us so you didn't really I get too much into it until recently but tell me what is your
Biggest thing that you've learned. Oh real quick. I just want to say he likes is in here elix
Thank you for the talk yesterday. Love everything about it. This guy is this is Steven's husband. He's amazing guy

(01:01:22):
Love we love him on set. He's he just brings joyment
He's also my life coach and I think I thank him for who I am today because of him. Thank you
He looks appreciate you
But go ahead say
Just like be yourself authentically, you know because

(01:01:43):
you could try to like
You know cater around some certain things but and then like with like the drama and everything just don't entertain it
You know, just be yourself authentically and like don't feed into any of that. Just do your own thing
Absolutely
Absolutely. Well, listen when you guys when you guys aired season two
I want to have you guys all on and we're gonna talk about that episode that first episode because I'm dying to see it now

(01:02:08):
You keep bringing it up then so yeah, oh
Tavern on the mains coming out pretty soon. I just I gotta show Scarlett something
I gotta make sure what it's not her or we might have an amazing intelligent response also guys, please
For the love of God stop using the word class a EVP because it does not exist

(01:02:30):
Either it's either an EVP or an intelligent response stop using class a B C a D
B C a D. Well, yeah
Intelligent response because it answers to what I'm saying. So that's an intelligent response. Um
so with all the other episodes, you know, pie Myra

(01:02:51):
the
bath exchange Kim's crypt
Those episodes guys got some amazing stuff coming out for you. Keep a lookout for the new episodes
Unfortunately, I have a lot of people mess me as my Amazon
I don't have control of it once I upload it
They take care of the rest all the episodes go to para flicks first
You guys can use dark echoes 25 get 25% off and it's a great platform

(01:03:16):
There's other paranormal shows on there. Highly go check them out awesome stuff out there
pair of theory
haunted files
Um, uh, uh, uh, exceered though those those people are amazing this Natalie amazing at what she does patty
Negley what she does go check out para flicks guys something three bucks a month. I ain't got a hundred pocket. Yeah

(01:03:39):
And then soon to be after I edit all eight episodes my distributors putting them on Apple TV roku to buy
Pequok and maybe
Maybe it might be going to paramount. Oh, I'm waiting for you guys
That's amazing
Seriously, absolutely amazing. Like I cannot wait to see the success from you guys because you're in my hometown

(01:04:04):
I'm in my home state and I love to see people from my home state do stuff amazing
But not only that you guys are great friends of ours now and we consider you part of the talking with the source family
And we just love to see you guys grow and just keep going man, you know, just keep going
Like that's gonna be I can't wait to have you guys on for more seasons man and see what we got your back

(01:04:28):
You know we need it so
This one thing I just want to address, um, I
respect the paranormal community, but I'm not a part of it because I see what goes on and
We we do what we do and if any paracons and events want to you know, invite us
We love to come out there and just have a good time

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You know, even though if we go there and somebody we don't like will still be respectful will still shake that person's hand
We will never make your event or your paracond look bad because of us of certain people
we will respect them because we respect what you guys do and
Dark echoes is just gonna keep growing from here guys
Well, all I'd have to say about that is if I'm in

(01:05:13):
If I'm in the room with somebody that doesn't great like I better be on the other side
Yeah
Unfortunately being in the limelight you gotta bite your tongue. Yeah
Yeah, I understand but that's right. We got people like us who just you know, we'll back you up
So we'll be the talkers, you know, you just do your thing and let them be them and we'll take care of

(01:05:33):
Talker the front line for you. Yeah, so don't worry about it, man
But thank you so much guys for coming on tonight
And I appreciate you start for driving over and taking a sec to be on the show as well. And there's so much more
I want to see fireworks
I'm so jealous
No idea. All right, so

(01:05:53):
Have a great rest of your night and I have a good fireworks show great week everybody you guys
I hope you get out back stage
I want to show you one or two clips if you don't mind
All right
All right, cool
So let's say our goodbyes and I will definitely we definitely gotta have you on more because there's so much to talk about so

(01:06:14):
Appreciate your time though, man
Appreciate your time Scarlett so much again and we will see you guys definitely soon and we'll put you guys in the back in a second
Thank you, Enfield demon, I'll appreciate you guys jay and elky jay we're gonna be by the town hall if you want to meet us
There you go
Awesome. Awesome. All right. We'll see you guys in a few seconds

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Hey john want to be able to do that for me, yeah, you got it appreciate you
All right, put it back. Oh, we got chris in the middle watch out
But no tell me about it guys think real quick so we can get uh matt and i'm out of here. I want to tell me
What did you think of the show man? Because honestly, I thought it was absolutely amazing
How much we have to ask so much more we had to talk about but you know matt's energy is amazing

(01:07:01):
I mean to bring scarlett on too was absolutely amazing because you know, she's the camera person
She's the one that has learned from you know matt these these cinematic moves and stuff like that and how to make this thing
Better and her filming is just absolutely incredible. I mean I got to see a couple of the episodes and I really love what they're doing
And I love where they're going. So but what'd you guys think real quick?
Dude, they knocked it out of the park and i'm so happy to support them

(01:07:25):
Dark echoes has jk's 100 support. I love what they do and
Anything I can do to help them grow i'm there
Amen, amen
Make sure chris what about you loved them support. I can see the vibe
I can remember the vibe from the girls and he just fits right in with them and yeah, so it's a perfect setting and again

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I want to see the walmart antics though, because that's really intriguing
Yeah, the blue for real a blue for real of that
Watch out. But all right guys. Well, anyway, thank you guys so much for tuning in
For another episode of talking with the source. We got to get out of here. We appreciate all of you
Whoever's going to enjoy some fireworks, please go enjoy some fireworks. We love all of you

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I am host aj capacity of talking with the source and covetry circle paranormal
I'm with my buddies jk 47 who is jonathan keyworth the jk 47 paranormal investigations and sir chris
Our newest member
Source. Thank you guys so much for your guys time. We appreciate you. We love you
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