The Chaser: Expedition Untold Ch. 12-14

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Welcome back to the Tall Tale Tavern, the monthly one shot
adventure TTRPG podcast. I'm your Tavern master and host
Kyle. And I'm here with Becca, Brooke
and Scott for a Chaser episode. Last building.
You got last building today. Sorry.
It's probably more that our cameras are on and yours isn't,
so he had to go. Yeah, he was an order of visual.

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I. Just did.
I'm not asking. If I was in Kyle's heart at all
times. And apparently I'm.
Not, you know what journal articles, it's the first and the
last that are legitly like thoseare the the ones that are the
most important and the ones in the middle are fluff.
So there you go. OK, you did get the.
And so I do. You got the and.
Next time, though, I'd like and with Scott Esman I like.

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The and with. And with, not just with or and
you want both? Wow, you're.
Getting greedy. Well, we are here for the Chaser
episode for Expedition Untold chapters 1213 and 14, and we are
the the episodes that kind of finish up the cyberpunk world.

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And I think just going right into kind of these episodes, we
can just start with that it's. Kind of, it's kind of that they
finish up the cyberpunk world, but they're also like Arc 2 of
the cyberpunk world. It's like the El Salvador arc
begins in Episode 12. And I don't know how else do you

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refer to. The chunk.
Yeah, that's how I have it in mynotes.
I have cyberpunk one and two like the I have.
Google. Docs for each of the locations.
That's how I do the the notes and so.
This is like the. Cyberpunk Cyberpunk 2.
Like cyberpunk prophecy? It's like the sequel.

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Second arc. The squeakable it.
Sounds like that would be like the crappy Netflix show based on
the game Cyberpunk or some cyberpunk prophecy.
Right, but this episode to to catch us up in cyberpunk one
that that first arc, he who goesdown and meets with their with

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his friends who are not his friends who are.
Yeah, they're still. His friends, but.
They're not his friends because they peer pressure him into
doing drugs. And that's how you know, yes.
That they're not. And they made me jump off a
bridge. They escaped the clutches of
Heehachi and dive into a tunnel.And then we go to we went to M

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Tiro's story and Namby's story. And now the beginning of this
episode, Chapter 12 is Namby andM Tiro joining up again in the
portals and joining up again andrealizing that they do not look
like they did anymore and they are entering into the cyberpunk
world looking like mutants. And that actually we have a

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question right off the bat from Becca is did you guys have
choices and how you looked and what were the options?
And did I have some options for you, for you guys to come up
with for your mutant selves? Basically I just want to play by
play of the chat that I wasn't apart of because of my raging
FOMO. Kyle did send us a screenshot of

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options, but did give us, I think you said like if you want
to come up with something else you can.
But I think Scott and I both didjust go with things on the list.
I think it was like a table. I took things that were on the
list, but I did not take the flavoring of any of the things
that were on the list. I don't think like it was you
could have gills and be slipperywith like mucus.

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And I did take the gills, but instead of being slippery with
mucus, I asked if I could have like melting candle wax skin.
And then it was you could have athird like arm that had like a
reach attack. And instead I asked if I could
have a mouth on my stomach with a giant tongue that could make
that attack. Yes.
And you were supposed to just like maybe grow ears namby

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right? Or grow wings.
I mean, but we. Mine were so I think you were
only the four things and it was like 2 and two.
Or if you have have something else to pitch, pitch it.
Scott claimed his first, which was fine because I was like, I
don't really know. I didn't have any ideas.
And his were great for him, dear.
Oh, so then I had left the eye and like wings and I just

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thought it was so funny to like make that part of her ear as
like the mutant thing as opposedto just like, because I think
like you were supposed to just have like an extra eye like on
your forehead and then like regular wings, like more like,
you know, angelic kind of. But I was like, no, it's going
to be gross and mutanting. My ears are just going to be
huge wings now, so. And that was in my original

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response to. That is, you have to tell me how
that works, because I was not able to imagine Namby's ears
providing her flight without it being the dumb propeller.
Cartoon. Like walking.
Around like. Yeah, which Scott and I were
just like, yeah, that. No, that's what's happening.
That's a propeller ears. Perfect.
They're like, What's the problem?
And then I think literally as wewere logging in for that, I was

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like, oh, I need to come up withsomething that Kyle's gonna
actually let me do. And so I came up with the wings
get the like actual like bone structure to them as well and
like become more actual wing like.
It's like Kyle's never seen Dumbo, you know?
Like there's a there's a great documentary about this.
Great documentary. There are multiple like just

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just watch a movie Kyle. I actually don't know if I've
ever seen Dumbo. Really.
Listen, I don't think I've ever seen Dumbo.
It would have been when I was but a babe, a small child.
A pity, babe. I've ridden bum Dumbo multiple.
Times, yeah. So I don't understand why you're
not understanding it's. Exactly like that.
Yeah, if you just described it, I know.

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Just always picture a giant polecoming out of the side of namby
into a contraption that can moveit up and down.
I just get like a little like RCcard that like takes me around.
But you guys become the mutants and then land on Bob's spaceship
and this the first chunk will you know you guys meeting Bob

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and Bob's family from the past and and going what?
A heartbreaker that Becca didn'tget to be there to meet.
Bob The kind of family, you knowhow hard it was to just sit and
listen, like silently. I was like.
Because Becca of the three of uslike Becca and Kyle have the

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most like you guys have like Midwest families if.
You. Do all the Midwest Y things.
Yeah, yeah, we definitely do. It took 45 minutes for me to say
goodbye to my family at the family gathering we had earlier
today because we kept doing the Midwestern goodbye of like.
You guys are both multi potato dish households.

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Oh yeah. I counted it today and that.
Is what defines you as a family.When we went to the dining room
for like the meal, there was just like all of the Midwestern
like, quote UN quote salads thatare all like covered in
mayonnaise of some sort. And like I counted and four of
them had potatoes as like the core base.
Of it I was. Just like, yeah, I don't see

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anything wrong with this. Mayonnaise and potatoes.
Though the goodbye thing is so funny because in the Jumping
into the future episode, the episode later when Bob is saying
goodbye to them in the future from the ship, like I'd written
in there, like maybe he takes a couple steps to get there and

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like, Oh well. And then like stands by the
door. And then it was like I was like,
OK, I have to I have to trim some things here so I could just
like based on time. And also Bob's not going to like
mess around while people. Are in that particular
situation. Right in that one.
Yeah, but I really wanted there to be a.
Midwestern. Goodbye section there for him.

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But but yeah, I, I had a lot of fun.
I was really excited about goingback to, you know, exploring
Bob's back story. You know.
And the family and having you guys meet him, making making
mothership maybe feel a little bit more devastating, you know?
Yeah, it's kind of a bummer of ascene to act out where I'm like,
well, this wife and child are going to die.

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Like even if I stop it right now, my ultimate goal is to
reset their story to a world where they.
Yeah, it's like I was wondering about that if you players were
going to say something to him or, you know, or the any
anything like to to change that direct trajectory.
I didn't think that you were because I I felt like your

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characters were understanding. You know what?
What by this time in the campaign like what?
The whole deal is right. And we're coming fresh off of
everything being ruined by us trying to fix the trajectory of
things, you know, like change things.
So. I was, I was especially excited
for his son coming out as the red slime and like jumping out

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and that revealed that it's his that I was that that was
probably what I was most excitedfor.
How close were you guys to shooting that with the red slime
I. Think Scott said he was going
to? Yeah.
Absolutely. Yeah.
And so I think it was more. For the fact that we are in a
game where Kyle is the DM who can be like, well, hold on, hold
on. It would have, I mean, it would

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have just happened. Like if it were real life or if
it were like a video game where my actions were instant, I would
have shot him. Yeah, yeah, I think I would have
probably too. Just not even thinking like I've
been like, Oh my gosh, it's attacking Bob killing.
Yeah, yes, absolutely. It's like one of the one of the
things in our, our like our rules on the Discord, there's

(10:04):
the rules file. But in there is like we're not
going to be like attacking kids in this in any of our stories.
That's like one of the hard set rules.
Like then you don't know homophobia or transformed
phobia, any racism. Like that's one of the things
like we're just not going to be like there's not going to be
like harm to children. There's going to be threats.
Exclusively exclusively making child characters moving forward.

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So Kyle, how do you explain dis elderly conduct to the fountain
of you? You let.
Those babies were all fine. You let bones push that minotaur
baby. That's true.
He pushed us. He tumbled though he was fine.

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The Minotaur baby was fine. Great.
And so you guys do the the the Midwest thing with Bob and his
family and and then go back downinto the cyberpunk world where
we catch up with you and the rest of the crew in the tunnel.
And the rest of this episode is Hue in the tunnel with them

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going in, meeting the rest of the mutants, realizing that the
mutants have this prophecy that's been given to them in 25
words. And we have to talk about the
prophecy because as far as behind the scenes things, so
that was like because we recorded these like out of
sequence, obviously, or not out of sequence.

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They were in sequence, but they weren't like all one session.
The thing that Brooke and I recorded, we did before we all
got together as a group, but youtold us we were going to have
been in the sewers for a couple days, and you asked me and
Brooke, like, what would you guys have been doing for a
couple days? And then it's like the first
thing I was like, well, I'm going to start some sort of
prophecy about Hugh being the savior, of course, literally.

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Yes, which is so funny because Iwas like, wait and then.
Kyle was like, wait. Oh, here's.
The prophecy that you, you, you start that, you try to start it.
And they're like, yeah, we got that, yeah.
Obviously. There is one who will arrive,
one born of both worlds, who brings enlightened ones with
him. One who will bring everyone to
the light is the is the prophecyof their just so funny because I

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like I was like, oh man, I really want Mtero to like do
this, but there was so much about the prophecy that like
that I had written that I was like, I don't I think I think I
just have to like say, oh, there's the great idea.
The prophecy is already there. I.
Was even confused when you said it.
I was like, OK, so he's just like really yes.
Anding me like right away he's like.

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Yeah, it was kind of confusing. Conversation, Honestly, I was
like, wait, what? Who came up?
Who came up with this? And then it just turned out you
guys were like fully on the exact same wavelength as far as
like where this is going next, just independently.
Yeah, crazy. Just like Imtero, I guess.
I don't know. Because this because the end of
this one is the end of the the the end of chapter 14 is is the

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end when you guys leave the area.
So you so that's when you've metL10 back and L10 was the one
send using the sending spell every day as trying to help with
this timeline and help help out with this.
So it's like what you end up learning.
So it was like, oh man, I reallycan't like change that.
Otherwise I have to change like everything about, you know, kind

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of. What I think it's I think it's
perfect how it yeah, play it outand I love the idea of Emtero
trying to start the prophecy just for it to already exist.
So it's like, all right, well, we'll just play into it.
I'll keep going with it. I guess it's.
Emtero. Yes, Anning.
The, the thing that I'll bring up in this beginning that that

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caught me off guard was like, like when you guys started like
role-playing, I like left you like alone in the tube.
My, my immediately reaction, immediate reaction was like,
was, oh shit, Hugh is pissed. And like, like you like walk
away from the group and in my head I'm like, oh, crap, crap,
crap. How do I keep them together?
Like what? Like has the DM, how do I not

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immediately get this party like completely separated?
I wouldn't have broken the story, but yeah, no, Hugh was
pissed, yeah. He felt very betrayed and and
dumb for falling for it all. And yeah.
Rightly so. I mean like very rightly so.
It definitely took needed some time for, you know, it wasn't

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like, oh darn tootin, let's keepgoing.
You know, as a group, so you. Couldn't have been that would
have been just like. You guys were robots under
control by the evil AI all along, But we're good now, OK?
Yeah, thank you for letting giving like time to explore
that. Because like I think especially

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to Hugh having just like come out of the high of that like 400
damage attack against that giantmutant that he then quickly
turns around and like whip Mental Whiplash finds out is
actually like an organic left. And he'd kind of fallen into the
trap that everyone else does with him about just assuming
it's a monster. I think, yeah, that was cool.

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I like that whole beginning partwas it was fun to to navigate
with the the rest of the group. Yeah, it's the the the times in
this campaign that I've taken myhands off the wheel a little bit
and let things happen, have beenrewarded like every time.
I feel like it's been a really cool in my chair to be able to
to see the characters, you know,play and all the various

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settings that we've been in, like in it's been rewarding
every time, so. I think that was like the first
like you kind of set the stage alittle bit for some stuff that
for Hugh about just like workingthrough that, like personal
stuff. Yeah.
Like it's first time you like really started talking about it.
And then I liked the way that the like AI group kind of like

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responded to you. Like they they weren't all just
like, it's OK They were like, no, this makes sense.
So you're mad. Yeah.
Like, I promise we're not tryingto be mean, which like then
brings up all the stuff that like is so cool about the AI
world, just like what is humanity?
What is independence? What is, you know, all of those

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things? It's like, are they real people
just because they're AI? They are, Does that make them
not worthy of, you know, sentience and all that?
So it's just, it was a cool conversation.
Yeah, I mean, that was the firsttime that Hugh like, bared his
fangs and like showed that wholeside of him, which he was like
very deliberately his whole lifekind of smashing down.

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And yeah. And it had like that whole
conversation because even thoughlike, he wanting to trust them
with it, like with this hey, Hachi kind of situation, you
don't know, like they could totally mean it.
You don't. You don't know, like, they could
totally mean it, but that doesn't mean anything if you're,
like, being puppeted completely and you don't even realize it.
So it was really interesting to,like, navigate and think

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through, especially, like, in between the recordings.
Yeah, there was a lot of mental gymnastics going on that that
was fun to do. What?
What were the mental gymnastics like when my Shama greeted you
as the El Salvador and then expected you to speak as the
prophecy holder, the savior of the mutants?

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Oh my gosh, I don't even know. I like me.
Becca was like, what the fuck ishappening?
And like, so that one was kind of almost easy to play as Hugh
not knowing what's going on because Rebecca was like that,
like frozen in place, like what is happening?
I think it's that was like, because, because Namby and

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Emtero, you guys were in on at least when your characters would
be able to jump in. It's yeah.
And so at that point it was like, OK, like, like you guys
know about the prophecy. You know, it's going to be Hugh.
Like at some point I think Scottwas like, she's going to, you
know, he's going to need me to back, back, back him up or
something as a. It was so funny 'cause I was

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like, man, I really wish I'm Tyra was here to give that
motivational. He's so much better at speeches
than me. It was like the perfect perfect
segue into it. It was Namby who spoke up first,
though. Yeah.
Namby did, yeah. Yeah, well, I just yelled out
for Hugh. Like, you know, in my in my
mind, it was like Namby just wanted to be back with her
friends. It wasn't like she was ready to

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like talk in front of a huge group of huge group, but she was
like, we got that's Hugh. We all need to be together.
Yeah, my brain was like, I couldnot process what was going on
because I I, I clocked, you mentioned the fact that they
were green like 5 different times as we were going down the
tunnel. And I was like, I know DM

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language and I was like why? Why is it important that they're
green? Forgetting that I'm green and
you. Have big metal legs?
Yeah. He keeps talking about this.
It took an embarrassingly long amount of time for me, like to
like kind of figure it out. And then even at the end, I was
like, I don't know what, what amI saying?
He was just Hugh. Right.

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That's what I expect for Hugh tobe like.
You know, it's like what? Yeah, And that was, it was
fortunate that I knew there was going to be a prophecy because I
was prepared to be like, all right, well, he's not going to
know how to respond to this, so I'm terrible.
Just come in there and pay no attention to to the Huguenard
over here. He's your savior.
But just like, do what he does not.

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Don't listen to what he says. Namby's entrance of just like
flapping wings and like floppinginto hue was just that was like
perfectly in my mind. I could picture it exactly.
That's one of the things I can like, definitely picture in my
brain just like that cartoon, like, like.
Really. All over the place.
Erratic flying, just like flopping, yeah.

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Yeah. Andy had a question.
Kyle, how much Portuguese did you research for this crowning
AI achievement arc? Yeah, I just learned Portuguese.
I just. Fluid now, right?
I you know, I go all the way forthe.
For the research. Totally don't just pull up
Google Translate and type some words in until it seems like it

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makes sense and then plug those in.
So not very much Portuguese research.
I did you know, there's there's some Portuguese words in there.
You know that this new Lisbon isin Portugal.
And so these mutants were basically Earth flavored trolls
and trolls have a language that are like, it is kind of like a
mish mosh of languages. And so they are not a very smart

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group of people, but they do have they were from Portugal, so
that some of those language pieces remained.
And so my shama is, you know, like mother and shaman kind of
like put together. And then there's some other just
random words that I would say asthem that were like Portuguese
in Portuguese. So not much.

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Google translates great. Google Translate the job done.
Yeah, you got it done. But yeah, the the mutants
embrace you all and basically say, OK, we're attacking
tomorrow and you're leading us and and let you go.
And the from space, you guys hadtaken the kind of hologram

(21:23):
device to go and talk to, to make contact with Thwick and
William at that point to get a whole lot of information about
what was what was happening. And then the end of the episode
is you guys. It's us bullying you into
letting us make that casserole. Or.
Oh, that casserole's so interest.

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Let's not go past that. Big fanfic casserole.
Yes. One of my favorite, one of my
favorite things in the campaign,really.
I love it. So much it makes me.
So good every time. Just the running through line of
it, it's just, it's so funny. Yeah, I.
Mean. I just love the wheels.
Off the wheel. The.

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Wheel was ripped from my control.
Yeah. Is that another time where you
gave up? Control on your happy cast and.
It was rewarding for everyone. Equally rewarding.
And yeah, so all of the background information that
Thwick and William gave you together, Mav had some

(22:27):
questions. I think there were, I couldn't
tell if there were chaser questions or just responses, you
know, like in this to be in the spoiler chat.
But it's like, how old is William?
Who was his mentor? What are these older structures
he makes references to? I want more deep lore on the
Tavern and its presence in the world.
And this is a conversation whereWilliam had told you that he was

(22:48):
the story keeper and learned from his his teacher, which I
have to go Scroll down to my notes to get under where that's
at. But basically I learned from his
teacher who was a playwright, you know, someone who had this
version on Alaria, which is the homebrew world that I, that I

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play at in my home campaign. That's where William's from, but
he grew up at this like, you know, basically this open stage,
you know, big open stage where people would go and tell stories
and the stories would like come to life on the stage.
And that's how people would tellthe story.
So that was like where one of these locations was.
And so I think it's safe to say that there are different types

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of places in different universesand worlds where maybe it's not
a Tavern that, you know, where, where the stories are kept.
Maybe it's a stage or any other type of way people can share
experiences and stories. I think that's such a cool
concept. I love the idea that that like,
you could basically like anyone could just use that as like

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their starting point for a campaign and it can be any world
you want. Like that's so fun.
The Fablemore Playhouse is what it's called, where he where
William kind of grew up in it and then learned how to be a
storyteller under Griselda Schoonhart and she was the story
keeper. And then she, he basically
learned from her, became her apprentice and he started

(24:17):
building Taverns because he wasn't really one for acting and
that's, and so he started building the tall tale Taverns
around the different planets andareas.
So is the idea that he built allof the Taverns and all the
different it? Seems that way.
Yeah, it seems that way. So a lot of the Taverns have
been very similar, you know, similar vibe.

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I think it's safe to say that William has probably built all
of the Taverns that we've been to, you know, throughout.
Did he build the little coffee shop in the?
Yeah, the one by Jimmy John's. The one that they go to in
Monster Bash. Yeah, in Indiana.
Indiana. Yes, he did.
Between the law firm and the Jimmy John's, yeah.

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So cute. Yep, the Canon Earth location
for the Tall Tale Tavern. So and then until the future
when it's cyberpunk then there'sone in New Tokyo I think.
Yes. It's where.
Neo Tokyo, but but yeah, how oldis William?

(25:21):
I don't have, I don't have an answer for that Infinite.
But yeah, it was fun to lure dump and help and it was kind of
a lot to dump on you guys. But at that point, I think this
is the conversation where William said, here's here's your
pages to go in the future when you get there based on, you

(25:43):
know, how time works. That's after the Oblex has
attacked in the Tavern. I'll be dead at that point.
And. Like the last time you guys
talked with the last time that you would talk to William in
this, in this? Yeah, I have to say I was not
expecting that at all. Maybe I'm me too for not
thinking about it, but I was just like, yeah, he's fine.

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I assumed, yeah, he escaped or something like like maybe he
didn't like obviously win that fight, but then he like, I don't
know, got out somehow or got knocked out and then rescued
kind of thing. I was not expecting him to be
dead. Yeah, and then and then you guys
go to bed and are woken up and are brought down to the pools of

(26:26):
Icor by with the mutants and turned into your swarms.
And that kind of leads us into the next.
Kind of looks like you kind of like time, kind of like
backtracks on itself in the episodes.
I feel like 'cause. You.
Go through a lot of like prep. I feel like that would have to
be before we became a swarm withthe kitty's mural and things

(26:47):
like that. Yes, it was.
It was it was definitely AI moved the story forward to get.
To that like reveal. Episode.
And then like, and then it was like after it was like, but what
about bedtime? What about?
Everybody, everybody's like. But we weren't done playing
pretend yet, so it's. The conversations like was it

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the? Next time the conversation.
No, it was no, no, it was this episode.
It was before we went and becamemutants.
OK, when you guys told me. We cannot, we cannot, like,
brush over how angry Becca was at the professor.
And I totally thought she was good.
I wrote down the name of the necromancer because I was like,

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this is the man she's going to hunt down.
Did not write down the name of my professor.
Was like, why is she asking about this?
Yeah, my professor was there. And then she's like, and I was
like, not the necromancer. Do you want his?
Name I have that no. No, no, I don't care about the
necromancer. I'm going.

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To need another education. Girl's face during that was so
good. I was so caught off guard by
that. It was great though, I loved it.
Yeah. I mean, like in my side of
things like, so first of all, like Hugh's side, to him it is
like evil people be evil, you know, like they are when that is
that like they're it's not good.But like, obviously, like they

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are being what they are saying they are being.
What bothers him more and like in that moment is hearing
someone who is like claiming to be qualified to teach the next
generation of good people deliberately choose to walk away
in that moment. That is unforgivable to Hugh.

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And then on top of that, you areproposing this to the the player
who is a college professor. There's no fucking way.
Like I would not take offense tosomething like a bitch has to
die. I mean, Hugh didn't say that he
was going to kill the guy. He just said he would like to
meet him. Yeah, in a really scary tone.

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In my dead pants with. Just Hugh.
He's just the monster we're going to play as.
We're going to play as teachers going out on a retreat to a
cabin, and Hugh is going to showup.
But it's a secret no one knows. And.
No one knows. The players don't know the.
Players don't know that he usually that's good.
I truly would be terrified to have to deal with Becca coming

(29:18):
after me. She'd crit on every attack like
it'd be a nightmare. Ohh my gosh we should play this.
I'm in now. Especially get to play the
monster. That righteous anger, all the
G20, they would all be 20s. So anyway, I just had to address
that before we moved on to this go back to just because I loved
the face like I got. I did not anticipate you guys

(29:39):
react like getting so creeped out.
That wasn't guard by. It it was not the obvious
choice, Becca the Necromancer was the obvious choice.
I don't know, I like. To me, I'm just going to like.
You know. Evil people be evil.
Yeah. Like he's not pretending to be
good and then backstabbing. It's like how?
Yeah, like that's and I think that's like me, Becca, even to

(30:01):
him. Like when someone is overtly
evil, I'm like, yeah, you're a piece of shit.
This, this tracks. But like, if it's someone who's
pretending to be good and then makes all the bad choices, No.
No. Love it.
But yeah, so going into the nextepisode, it starts with, you
know, is kind of a little rewind, like, hey, let's see

(30:22):
what happened, you know, the night before and then get some
of this in because the cause, because that stuff is because we
need to. Establish where Viper and Paulo
were sleeping in relation to each other, that is.
The most important ship, Yeah, yes.
And and if one of them noticed that the other one woke up
first, that was very important. And it was the beginning of, of

(30:44):
LAD being the, you know, third wheel slash ruffle.
We don't know. So great the and a mural.
My, my, yeah, my favorite part from this is the mural and this
stuff that that was prepped. I didn't, you know, I, I wasn't

(31:05):
Privy to to what some of this prep was, but.
I can say it's a. Beautiful mural.
The mural Kitty messaged me beforehand because she was like,
is interior going to do any sortof like speech or anything?
Because I have like this mural idea and I don't know if we
could collaborate or something. And I was like, I hadn't really
thought about it, but I can castmotivational speech.

(31:26):
And why don't I just then pivot to your big mural that you're
going to have. And then of course, the mural
went so. So funny she.
Described it so well too, like Kitty's description was so good
and like. She I read that ahead of time.
It was lovely and wonderful. I was like, this is great, this
is going to go so well, and thensomebody makes her do a
performance show. It's like I did a performance

(31:47):
second. It was it was with advantage,
right? I gave her bands.
Like it? Was still 4.
Or something. It was so bad I'm.
So glad you haven't made me rollperformance for the any of the
journal drawings to see how accurate they are.
Funny if you had to describe howfucked up they were like when
they came out. What was wrong with?

(32:09):
Rewind the campaign. Yeah, performing the.
Campaign I did purposely choose like I think it's calligraphy
tools that I have proficiency inbecause I was like, oh, Kyle's
going to make me roll for these to see at like one point if
they're good or not. And I want like some sort of a
tool proficiency for these. Journal Sketch says Nope, it was
Kitty. So.
Great. Yeah, she put the work.

(32:31):
In and and and, we love it. We love the storytelling.
Kitty. Kitty, it was great.
It was amazing. It was then, yeah.
And then kind of the the battle gets going.
I have one other thing from thatmorning that I have to say which
is I have my 1 little scene withLad where I gave him that book

(32:53):
which isn't isn't apparent in the episode but was my plan for
if I died to have Imtero's finalletter to his friends inside
that book. Which I did write some of that
letter but nobody can hear it incase Imtero actually dies.
Still I need it as a backup planso.
But the letter isn't it Like in crowning AI now?

(33:14):
Well, we don't get to. See it?
You're gonna bring it back in. I'm sure I can find some other
way. Maybe write a letter?
Yeah, I was a little bit sad that I didn't get to.
Die. I did like that a lot that you
gave that there was there. Was I need to have some
interaction with LAD? I had not had any interaction
with LAD. I felt like really.
And I like the idea that scene was cute.

(33:35):
Of like handing off books to other characters.
Like that's just like as our book club being our thing.
It's just a fun thing. Yeah, I like that a lot.
That part is really cool. That's happened in every story,
I think. Maybe.
He's done it once. I have not.
Nabby has not done it I. Don't think Nabby's hoarding her
book. Exchanged any books in the
Western adventure, but we definitely did with.

(33:56):
I exchanged with that snake ladyin Zoonopia and then we.
Both gave land. Books.
Me and you. I don't think anybody gave
anybody anything in the Western one.
No one was like big on reading there, right?
No, I mean that clean up that like that.
Yeah, that came up in the story.I don't have any need for that
fancy book learning. I don't know if Crumb can read.

(34:19):
Yeah, so probably an. Avid reader, he probably reads
away like a lot like in that horse stall at night.
He's kind of. Light, with his book Crumb, too,
reads to Crumb. He's a warlock, so he's probably
got some ability to create fancylight magic.
Light somehow, maybe cool. And then we go on into this, the

(34:45):
great mutant battle of New Lisbon City.
The swarms were How'd you guys? Like, how'd you guys like being
swarms? It was very fun.
I really liked too how you like the, I know it's the previous
episode, but like when you like the putting our hands in the
icker. That was a really cool mechanic.
Yeah, I, I thought that whole design was really fun, being so
beefy and strong. Although I didn't like that the

(35:08):
AI was learning my my my techniques so I was less
effective, but it was very fun. I agree, I mean I love being a
swarm as well. I think it was maybe too
powerful almost on the when combined with some of the
healing of it like the the motivational speech gave so much

(35:29):
temporary HP. Yeah, because of the fact.
That we worked. Yeah, we did still get knocked
out, but I think I. Didn't have a lot of wiggle room
for getting in the sub. Like I know I think like
technically we probably went longer than Kyle intended with
the temp HP, but I don't know ifI've been bad without it.
Yeah. It was, it was wild trying to

(35:50):
figure out what the heck the balance was going to be for this
because I have the Technomancer.They're all they're they're all
modified monsters or creatures. Creatures technically from the
Techno Answers textbook where I had them all printed out.
They're all printed out on my desk, like side by side.
I was like, OK, kind of separated into initiatives where

(36:10):
it was like first we do. I think it, I can't remember if
it was Namby first and then or Hugh first, then Namby then
Matero or I think Montero, you were second and then the sub
crew. But I was like, I don't know how
to balance this. I'm just going to send in
multiple CR20 plus, you know, things at the and see how it

(36:31):
goes. And then was wanting to yeah, I,
I was pretty, I was like, how doI, how do I do this?
How do I I think the main question was how do if I've
created if the villain if the OBLIX has come into crowning AI
world and has merged with Hihachi to take over the entire

(36:56):
world, at what? At that point, how how do I have
the party be any sort of successful against that?
Right? Do I just is there is there a
death star, you know, moment where it's like, oh, take this,
you know, bomb to this specific spot and it'll, you know, reset
the whole world. Like what, like what's going to

(37:18):
happen? I was like, I don't think that
that's possible in this world. I think that it just like there
has to be some sort of massive war or something that gets
started and then a rebellion that gets started and then there
has to be a time jump. If there's any any way of the
Oblix in Hihachi losing this, Ifthere's any way that's possible,
there's there's no way to have some secret, you know, Mosey

(37:41):
things. That's, you know, not Mosey
thing, but like secret mission thing to go and like shut it
down from the inside. So so I was like, OK, if I do a
war, how the heck do I do a war?And then the swarm idea was just
a kind of came from this mutant.You know, you guys are with the
mutants and like, OK, what if what if they do have to fight
these huge helicopters and planes and submarines?

(38:02):
But what if they were really beefed up?
What if they were a swarm creature that could do triple
damage and triple healing? And I think it worked out really
well, but what screwed what screwed the balance up, which I
wasn't sure. I was like, I don't know how, if
this is balanced at all. I don't know how, you know, I, I
tried to do some calculations ondamage per turn and if the plane

(38:23):
stayed here versus the, you know, if the plane was fighting
namby in the sky versus attacking Hugh, what does the
damage look like? They're tried to do some of
those things and was just like this.
This could just be wild. There's a lot of numbers and
things going on. The temp HP added that like 30
HP for you guys, right? And you guys had resistance to

(38:46):
bludgeoning, slashing, piercing because of because of swarm
form, right? And I think afterwards I looked
up in like swarms, a lot of swarms, like you can't get temp
HP as a swarm is like maybe a rule when creating a swarm.
There's no rules for creating a swarm.
But like, I think some swarms have that, but that's where I I

(39:10):
wasn't anticipating that. And I was like, Oh yeah, sure.
And then realized, oh crap, thatadds like a whole nother turn.
Because they did, you know, eachone of these, these helicopters
would do like, I don't know, 60 damage a turn or something like
that. It did feel potential though,
like. Yeah.
It was awesome. Like I remember at one point
Becca was like laughing and it was like, OK, give, let me get

(39:31):
this straight. Like there's this in the water
with 3 tanks and there's this tank and there's napalm and
there's this and there's this. And it did feel that way.
Like it, it definitely was one of the combats I've done that's
like felt very like what am I going to do?
Like how am I? Like being a swarm was awesome
and that definitely like also felt really cool, but it was
just like a totally different type of battle, which was really

(39:54):
fun. Yeah, I felt like there was way
more stakes than normal to like because yeah, I started like
maniacally laughing at one pointwhen my turn when I was trying
to think of what to do because Ilike broke.
I was like, there's like 8 different things.
They're all going to do like 90 damage, like OK, And

(40:15):
everything's doing fire damage, which is like huge nightmares
you. Know like the napalm bomb, like
bombs dropping and then you getting the you distracting.
I think commanding the plane to fly.
That was huge. That took it out for a turn and
he was like a major source of damage.
That worked so much better than I thought it would.

(40:38):
Yeah, this is like the first game that I've ever played that
command has worked as well as ithas.
Namby's real, real good at beingconvincing.
She's very commanding. She's believing herself.
That's what I'm always saying. We just need Adm with Kyle roles
and it's all good. Yeah, that's true.
Well. It just had so much speed that
it like got so far away. Yeah, because I had to dash and

(40:59):
whatever. Yeah.
So that was it. It worked better than I thought.
Yeah, and if it had gone like really poorly for like
specifically Antero in the water, like because that's where
the submarine was like some of these like floating fortresses
and stuff that were in there, we're going to like decide to
attack the sub crew and like they could not handle attacks
from them at all, you know. And so it, it ended up working

(41:23):
out very well for the party. And yeah, it's, it's interesting
looking at like 5V, like major war, you know, how do people run
like major battles? You know?
And so there's like a lot of rules out there that like like
homebrew rules. I think there's some official
like, or, or unearthed Arcana even like rules for like

(41:45):
military combat. And I think my style of play is
to not get in too into details like that.
I think that there are tables orthat could be fun and work if
you have like a big spread, you have a lot of hours to just be
like, OK, this is what our strategy is going to be like.
There's I think I like risk typegames are kind of fun, but but

(42:06):
my style is more kind of just what's what's like fun in the
moment. That is like fun to roll for and
play as and had as feel really big and powerful.
And I think I, I, I, I think it worked out well because I was
kind of nervous about, I was like, I don't know how this is
going to go, but. Yeah, it was, it was really
impressive. And I liked how you grounded it
in like rules that we were already familiar with because

(42:28):
like I there are like podcasts that will do these big battles,
but they have completely different mechanics that that
they implement during it. And those are fun.
But like, I think as a player, Ireally appreciated that.
Like I understood I still was taking my turns the same way
that I always do, just I was doing a shit ton of damage or
like getting healed a lot from namby, you know, like so I

(42:50):
appreciated so that it didn't feel cumbersome and like a
little extra panicky on there, that it was all stuff that I had
already been familiar. With the flavor of it made sense
to of like, oh, all these mutants are like taking on your
form and therefore can kind of do the things you're doing.
So it's like, oh, that makes sense.
We're just doing what we're doing, but on a bigger scale.
Yeah, I will say that like it made me feel, I still like, feel

(43:13):
like Hugh feels bad about it of like having an entire group that
looks like him just being like, okay, like this person knows
what's up. I'm going to follow into battle
and all die because El Salvador is there.
Like what? I have no idea what's going on.
Everything's going to get reset.That's just what Namby keeps.
Everything's going to reset and this is going to happen.

(43:34):
Is fine. Yeah, Hugh still hates that.
I know that like, Mav called Hugh a broody boy about it, but
I was just like, I don't know, like that would be so unnerving
to like already feels self-conscious and then be
leading a bunch of people in on a lie.
Well, it's different for Hugh because you are literally the
false savior, so. That was the part that got me.

(43:55):
I was like, they are going in here believing that I have any
extra umph and I do not. Well, you do because you're on
that 20s every. Yeah, it's true, you do every 10
rolls or whatever it is probablyless than that, but.
I did have more I had more vehicles lined up for you
specifically because I was like,I was like, I got to print out
like some extras to come out, you know, like because they

(44:17):
would right. You know, you're on the ground
facing there's tons of tanks around, right.
The AI forces were basically ready for for you all and so,
but I was like, specifically, I need to have more line to use
for Hugh because I I was like, Irefuse to bring out the exact
same thing. After you destroy like the first

(44:37):
spider tank be like aha another spider.
Here's another one you did raise.
The damage start over. You had a crazy crit again
though, like aren't you set likeanother record or whatever I
mean. Yeah, it was pretty like, yeah,
pretty close both. Times you did the crazy.
The crazy leg move resulted in crit.
In a crit, That's right. Yeah, Yeah, I forgot about that.

(45:00):
Will you? I I fully believe you will these
these 20s. I manifest.
It in a future episode that we just recorded it happened you
know it happens again when. It's like, yeah, just.
Narrative enough and then you just roll it and it's a Nat 20.
My, my dice are like, good job narrating.
Here you go. Yeah, here's a little present.

(45:23):
Yeah, no, I'm glad because it could go very opposite where you
like I my my fear is that you narrate something super epic and
they make for funny moments and then you were like that gnat one
you're like or not every. Single time Interior throws out
his flame sword arm. That's for me.
I'm like, all right, here it comes.
He's got to do something badass with his flame blade arm.

(45:45):
Nope, Miss that one well before.Not going to happen.
OK, And that one is at least entertaining.
It's even worse when it's just like I got like a nine days or.
Something yeah, like, and that one is funny and you can like
the DM can punish you in like anamusing way.
But like with the six, you're like, alright, we'll fog story.

(46:07):
And then the end of the episode came and you guys had to decide
where you going to activate the port the the page, the portal to
the future. What was that going to go?
How is that going to go? Ryan asked what was going
through Brooks mind as she was the last horde standing, facing
down a little army army as her friends portaled away.
What would have happened if she didn't go through the portal
herself? But yeah, that was a a fun, fun

(46:32):
moment to see you guys. But as to for so to witnesses
like to see your characters try and judge.
OK, Is everything going right? Is it time?
Can we leave to go to the futureand cross our fingers?
Hope this works cuz we're all gonna die if we stay another
round. Essentially, yeah.
But all of us. Nobody willing to be the one who
goes unless it is literally hardcoded in that this person has to

(46:57):
use a reaction to go. I'd love that.
That guy. That was masterful.
DND playing was like, I'm going to prepare my action to use this
when Mtero leaves. Then I would believe in too.
There's no legendary action that's going to come in between
like, yeah, I'm hooking it on toto that action.

(47:17):
I thought that was brilliant. Thank you.
I mostly didn't trust Scott not to like throw MTRO on his sword
like a little bit there because I didn't.
Have any reason to do it at thatpoint though?
I. Wouldn't I didn't know I had
trust issues. I will say thank you, Kyle, for
letting us like table talk in that moment because some DMS
would not have allowed that. And I think that like, it added

(47:38):
like a little extra anxiety to it also to be able to talk and
like role play that. It is fair review, it is fair of
you to have had trust issues when I literally had my plan for
when I died and. I didn't know that, but like,
maybe I did know that there werereasons.
I can't say they weren't unjustified or unfair.

(48:00):
I think it maybe it's 2 because I don't, well, maybe this is out
of order and it was not even that, but we were talking about
in like dead men tell no tall tales at the end there about how
you're just like, I have MTO dies, he dies.
I don't trust you at all anymore.
Yeah, it was. Brooke, how did it feel to be
alone? Terrifying so scary like I knew

(48:25):
that I could at least like, you know, do what kind of like copy
from what you had done and like use the page is like a reaction
to something. So I was like, I know Namby's
not going to like die. Also, she was still in swarm
form. Like she was doing good.
But it I didn't want to get intoit too much in the episode
because like, that was a long record.

(48:47):
That battle was epic. It took a really long time.
And I wasn't like, now's the time for Brooke to monologue
about how Namby's feeling. But like, she definitely was
like feeling very nervous. I mean, she's not someone who
typically leads the way she usually follows other people's

(49:07):
lead. And to have the self assurance
to say I'm going to be OK, you guys go, I'll handle it.
I think was like a big charactermoment in my mind that I feel
like has somewhat informed, likehow she has acted in future
episodes as far as just like feeling a little bit more self

(49:28):
assured, like she can do the things she wants to do.
So for a little tiny Bunny that came in not thinking she could
jump over an alligator, it was pretty hard.
Yeah, I loved how you narrated it because you, you even
described you're like, yeah, like she always runs away or
like chooses kind of like the easy route and like, and this is
like a very clear visual of likea time when she's not.

(49:51):
Like she is, she's the only one that is choosing not to, which I
I loved that. That was a very cool
development. And I just love that, like,
character connections between the three of of us in the book
club is like, I don't think Namby in other situations would
have felt empowered to do that, but she knew you guys could

(50:14):
handle yourselves and that you would always be there to like,
support her whenever she showed up where she needed to go.
Like I think it was definitely apart of that as well.
Yeah, I'm glad that we could. Be the wind beneath your.
Your. Wings, truly.
Yes, that's true. Yeah, that was a fun moment.

(50:35):
It was fun that she was like thelast one standing.
I thought that was. Yeah, that is really cool.
The submarine crew gets in and sees the human crew in there and
releases. Releases I just want to shout
out the feature length film of Mav trying to bond with the ship
captain that's got out of this episode.

(50:56):
It's going to be the unreleased edit.
Is. If you want books, have This was
a long record. This episode was 4 hours and 50
minutes before the edit. Folks, this was a long.
Episode got 3 hours. 20 something.
And it was like 2:00 AM, It was late it.
Was yeah, yeah. And I woke up like 3 hours later

(51:17):
for an appointment. I was like.
So I guess just my my main chaser question.
Kyle is what the fuck was that captain hiding?
What were you? Why?
Was he not being friends? Why?
What were his secrets? Yeah, well, you did learn he was
from the. He was one of the interesting.
Australians, the Australia was place where there were humans

(51:39):
and it's Hihachi was keeping them there, training them
militarily. And I don't actually remember
how much I said in the episodes,but Australia was placed with a
few city states that were often at war with each other, kind of
feud instigated by Hihachi by like AI plants in there.

(52:02):
And so like, it was creating like some military training for
them on on in Australia where there were the city states kind
of at war with each other frequently.
Like they try to make peace, butthen something would go wrong.
And the whole purpose of it was for Hihachi to have humans to
guard Alice because Alice was sopowerful.
Alice was put in this war, you know, analog submarine during

(52:26):
the initial war and was kind of under the, the the ocean kind of
traveling throughout the world while the AI was fighting the
humans, you know, way back, you know, way before all of this.
And then after the war, he actually didn't have any, you
know, need to keep her super hidden, so kept her close under

(52:47):
the estuary and and the Tagus estuary.
And so so yeah, that was the purpose of the humans.
And so but yeah, the they released Alice, she walks out
basically has total control overAI, like just around her can
just like any lesser AI, just like can't function around her.

(53:07):
So she's got like this EMP like effect around her.
And then she gets released and you guys go to the future which
brings. Us to.
Chapter 14 Future and that you all three land on the mother
ship. In the.
Future. A different.
Future where L10 was not presentand because of that the mission

(53:32):
failed. Things go to shit when I'm not
around. That's the arc of all of these
stories. That is a lynchpen.
Yeah. And I know you're trying to get
your, I know you're trying to get your billing.
You know your your billing number up.
Yeah, you know, you were 1/3. Today, Yeah, yeah.

(53:52):
Yeah, you know, so maybe next chaser you'll be high.
We'll. Start I will.
Speaking of though, going to theThe Inquirer, my favorite moment
there is is Bob. Sad fact that he won't get on an
escape pod again. It's so heartbreaking.

(54:16):
Everything with Bob just breaks my heart like again and again in
the best way possible. But Oh my gosh.
That it would have been so wild if you would have had some of
that cast role like. What you would have said we
really. Did.
And if we did, we we didn't. We didn't I.
Shouldn't even have said it onceI thought of it and it was too
late. I just shouldn't even have

(54:37):
brought it up because it's such a bummer to not have done it.
Oh my gosh. Because it was maybe what, like
four days old, which I know is not great, but.
Definitely it would have been only like a day old like.
I don't think for me and. Yeah, that's right.
You were in the. Already a couple of days old.
The potatoes. Before.

(55:00):
Leftovers last a solid week. It's fine and when you took it,
it's fine. Plasmoids actually can eat
whatever. Oh my God, Kyle actually God
damn mine in the in the Spell Jammer book.
I love it because they're like plasmoids.
Initially they weren't good likeseafarers because they would
start eating the deck and stuff because they're just.

(55:20):
Like really dumb. They're like, here's some food.
And like. Start eating the shit.
And as somebody who like food islike my love language is like
cooking for people and stuff. And like that's how my mom is
too. That's where I got it from.
Like it breaks my heart that we missed that opportunity because
like if someone gave me the opportunity, like, you know,

(55:41):
hopefully like 50 years down theline when my mom passes and if I
got the opportunity to eat like her apple pie again after the
fact, that would just be like, that would be amazing.
If only. If only this whole campaign's
ruined. Biggest regret of the campaign
honestly. We should have given him.

(56:01):
The even if we total party kill all of us dead, that will still
be second biggest regret. Yeah.
But yeah, so, so, yeah, you guysare on the on the mother ship.
He got out and Bob did not go with you because he was not in a

(56:23):
play. He would, you know, never get on
an escape pod again because that's what had happened to him.
You know where? He.
Escape pod and and left his family behind you know on the on
the Rav, the ship that was getting ravaged not
intentionally. Bob wasn't like intentionally
leaving them. It wasn't something.
Sure, Bob's a fucking coward. He left them to die.

(56:45):
It wasn't, it wasn't something like that, you know, it was.
I think it wasn't he just like basically like, yeah.
So, but it wasn't like a cowardice, like, Oh, my families
are, I'm leaving, you know. I thought it was more like a
there was all hope was lost kindof thing.
It was either like leave or not kind of thing, yeah.
But yeah, so sad. But then you guys shot off into

(57:08):
the astral sea, into space and returned back to DID.
Not did not see Christopher along the way.
Did not see. Christopher did make a toilet.
Yes, of course. Yeah, well, those are the
important things, yes, called use emotions at claustrophobia.
And then and then headed back toEarth.

(57:29):
And that's. When we got the the journal
entries right. Yeah.
We got the journal interests andwe were, yeah, flying through.
That was a really fun kind of. Like, that was very cool.
Yeah. I was nervous.
It made me, like, nervous to do like a cold read like that.
Yeah. That was just like a cold read
so hard all of a sudden. Yeah.
Like listening to us. I'll read it.
I'm like, do I know how to read?You all get it.

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It's in English. Like what?
It's in Portuguese. Yes, right, Portuguese.
We were live translating. Mandarin.
Was actually really impressive. Yeah.
Yeah, the so so at the end of the war episode, right the at
the end of that episode, I message the other group, you
know, the crowning AI group, andmy message was OK guys, what's

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next? I have nothing planned.
And so the this whole episode incredible because I wanted them
Yeah, this whole episode was OK.You have X amount of years, you
have, you know, ton a lot of years.
What does your group do to startplanting the seeds of rebellion
and resistance? How does that look?
You know what? And, and that's when we started

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brainstorming together and, and,you know, sharing ideas back and
forth. The journal was like, OK, let's
let's you know how to get some narration in there about like
what's been going on. I loved it.
I specifically love Landy's, youknow as.
Lad, you know. Like they say, I should start
journaling and Scott, you're you're and.

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Scott's read of it with a landing voice.
Oh, you dropped? Into it so Florida State I.
Don't understand honestly. Thank you very much.
I don't think I don't know what else to say.
I just really felt Landy's spirit in me in that moment he
entered me. I honestly think people
listening probably couldn't tellthe difference.

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That he would be so pissed to hear that.
I'm just. Saying not him as a person, but
him as lad does play that like like I'm just here, I'm just
here to help, you know, like that's like his vibe it.
Was so funny. Good now thank you.
You guys did great at your readsas well, although I don't think

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either of you attempt to do themfirst.
No, I didn't even cross my mind to read it in like a Viper
voice. I had to.
Follow Scott. And I was like, I do not.
Travel right now, Brooke. You're always doing that power.
I truly can't. I it's it's.
That's darn, what a darn shave. She's really good at it, but
she's self-conscious so she won't do it on the.

(01:00:03):
Bottom all the. Time channel Namby and her and
her newfound confidence. Yeah.
Come on, someone give. An interracial speech I I really
have tried to do some accents and they have been so
embarrassing so. I will do it right now just for
us and I'll cut it out of the episode.
Oh my gosh, that was so good, guys.
What she was. Getting it was so good.

(01:00:27):
Great, great. OK.
Brooke, it can't be as as good as Kyle's Australian accent in
that intro that you made him do that.
I. Was going to ask, did you?
Pick did you? Pick Australia's this place for
humans because you just know you're so good at that accent
and that is like of. Course, yeah.
It's just, it is what you know naturally.
You're very gifted at it. It's very good and it's very

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thick and very obvious as it was.
Described. To be explained it.
Is so obvious that it's Australian.
Amazing. You know.
I. Saved you from trying to do it
on the spot during the episode. You're like, yeah, right.
She's like, oh, you're like, I got it.

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Yeah, So yeah, because it was cut out of the episode, Mav,
you'll have to ask Brooke to do it at Gen.
Con this year. So yeah, she can just do it on
like a loudspeaker thing. Yes, on a loudspeaker, yeah,
sure. If we have a loudspeaker, I will
do it. I will bring one.
I will buy one with my own humanmoney.
I'll. Do it.
I'll do it if you do it. OK, It's.

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On oh wait, I have one at work OK.
That doesn't count. So you guys come down to this
world that is, you know, basically the, the rebelling,
the resistance has worked, you know, started small, gotten
bigger and bigger and kind of came to this moment where they
were all going to fight and go after Hihachi, who had built a

(01:01:57):
rocket to go into space. And it's great because like I
didn't come up with the space thing at all.
And it works so perfectly with you guys going to space and
traveling through space. And then it's like you guys got
to stop a rocket from going intospace to like spread, you know,
Hihachi was going to like spreadhis AI disease, you know, all
over the. He was going to Borg it first.
Yeah, that was Maverick came up with that.

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He's like that. It was great because like in my
head I was like, I was thinking,you know, after the episode,
like, OK, what do I do with Australia?
Becca is asking questions about Australia.
And then it was great. He just.
Mentioned amusing Australians and expect Becca to not we.
All fear the day when when our players or our children ask us
questions about Australia. The down under, anyway that's.

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Great. But this is great because I love
this campaign's been fun to leanon the other DMS who understand
the world better than I do. You know, the Western world with
bones and the cyberpunk world with with math.
But it's like, because like one of the first things math says,
Oh, well, he actually nukes Australia.
He has no need for any humans anymore because Alice is out.

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I'm like, Oh yeah, that's exactly what would happen.
You know, Australia's like gone.Like it's there's nothing,
there's nothing left there. He doesn't need humans there a
liability. They're gone.
And so that was like just cool to to be able to like come up
with the rest of this story together.
And then and then he was like, if he Hotch, he's conquered

(01:03:26):
everything here, what's left? Let's go conquer other worlds
and space. And so that's kind of how that
that this part of the adventure came through because there was
like, I mean, we were brainstorming different ideas on
or, you know, I had a couple of like brainstorm ideas, like we
could go, it could go this way where it's like secret mission,
prison break situation or something like that, you know,

(01:03:50):
But yeah, it was, it was pretty cool.
I definitely didn't expect the rocket to space like plan for
Hihachi. I I did not see that coming.
I will say. It kind of got very like, I
don't know, like a Bond villain kind of situation.
So I loved it. Like it kind of just like
clicked. It just made sense for like a

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like a old school like action movie that I would have watched
in like the early 90s with my mom so.
Yeah, it does have that vibe forsure.
I mean, it's it is and it is themost like, I don't know, epic
way to conclude the story that already had like the big epic
battle. Like how do you up that?
Oh, he's got fucking. Rocket.
He's got a rocket space. And I love that you were like, I

(01:04:35):
don't know, I don't have anything planned for the
restless. Like what do the players want to
do? Like what do the players
envision the rest of like that they would like plan like.
I think that's a awesome way to like, obviously include the
players and like what's going onin the world and giving them
like and chance to actually moldthat themselves instead of being

(01:04:56):
told like, OK, so this is what the world looks like now.
Like, that's very cool. Yeah, we're going like, here's
the future, here's what's happened in the meantime.
Like, yeah, I had none of that, you know?
Just sounds to me like we're giving this guy credit for not
doing his homework right now. Right.
I just asked him what they want to do.
I mean. In a way, what do?
You want to do. Huh.
But as a player, I think that would be super cool to be able

(01:05:18):
to be like that would be what I would hope that my character
wants to do. I mean, if if that's not if that
doesn't end up happening, that'sfine.
But like, this is what they weregoing to try to do.
How you've talked in the past about like how you like the open
world sandboxy elements that you've been working into this.
Did you just have not? Like, did you resist the

(01:05:41):
temptation to plan out the OR map out the the rest of the
campaign until you knew how thisarc was going to go?
Or did you have the transitions in between the arcs roughly like
decided on already and then it was just in between what was
going to be changed? So we know at the end of this
episode, we know, you know, the the old Tiefling woman shows up

(01:06:05):
and takes you to hell and like hell.
'S the next setting. Right.
So like that, you know, that was, you know, hell is the next
step, of course, because all died, you know, we'd have to
figure that out. We'd go to hell.
We all went to hell. Turns out we're terrible.
Yeah, sorry. We've been rooting for the bad

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guys all. That would be so cool.
Let's do that arc. Cut this out, Scott, and we'll
do this as a I'll leave this campaign, yeah.
I'm telling players that they have been AI the whole time and
they're not actually the playersthat they are.
That's not enough, you know. They have to be with.
You, they got to be the villains.
Have to actually be. The bad.

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Guys, the going on, you know. Even the good guys are the
villains of somebody's story, so.
So at the I think I'm not sure if that answered the the
questions answered, but hell, like I guess I can't really talk
much about that because. Yeah, yeah.
But that was obviously the next.Step for this episode I had I

(01:07:07):
had nothing. I had zero planned.
I had zero planned. Did you know where we were going
next, though? Or did like, does that make
sense? Like, did you know, like, OK, I
don't know what's going to happen in between.
At this point, Thwicket said, you're going to the future.
You have to defeat the Oblix here because the Oblix here is 2
Oblixes, right? Yeah.

(01:07:27):
Emptiero has killed. One, it's the 2/3 of it, yeah.
This is like the double Oblx, you know, this is like 2/3 Oblx
and he's like, hey, that'll be great you if you kill it, that's
great because then the next partof our plan is there, but I
can't tell you the next part of the plan in case you failed Oblx
reads your mind. I can't, you know that's you
know, I can't tell you what's next also.

(01:07:47):
A good touch for like, the way to keep us in the dark on what's
happening like that. That was fun.
Yeah, yeah. And it made complete sense.
Like this thing is reading memories constantly.
Like you can read short term tooprobably.
Yeah. So, so, yeah.
So at that point, so yeah, for this episode is like nothing.
And then it was like, let's do the space thing.
I was like, OK, cool. And then that's kind of how at

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that point is where I left it, like, OK, there's this big
battle, you guys got to stop therocket.
And then it was like, OK, how does Alice fit in here?
How are you actually going to stop it?
This is something that will require, you know, the sacrifice
basically that Alice will have to kind of take over and reset
them so that she can reset all the AI on the planet by hacking

(01:08:34):
into the antenna to shut down Hihachi and reset all the AI.
So they are all kind of unique AI instead of like most of the
like centuries just being controlled by Hihachi.
They're just an extension of 1. Yeah.
Before we move on to all that though, we do have to shout out,

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I have to say for the for the pages, the journal entries, we
have to shout out Viper and Lad,ultimately not or Viper and
Power. Not.
Materializing as a couple because of implication that
Viper is asexual in there. Yeah, that she's ace.
Yeah. Yeah, Mav requested a play by
play of my emotional journey andbuy in with it.

(01:09:19):
Yeah, I love, like I'm such a sucker for any bit of happiness
in anyone's lives with story or otherwise.
So I was really enjoying it. But like, I loved Kitty's
direction that she chose to takewith Viper.
I think that is incredibly cool.And as soon as that came out, I
was like, oh, OK, I I am happy with this too.

(01:09:40):
So I thought that was very cool to have the first like we're PC
character on the the the podcast.
So job well done, ballistic Kitty.
And it was in, I mean, I don't know, I'm sure they collaborated
because I know they, they collaborated the two of them on
a lot of that stuff between the two characters.
But I know I read the line in Paolo's letter that she's just

(01:10:01):
built that way. And I thought that was a great,
a great line, a great way to kind of hint at that for that
character. So that was really awesome.
I love that. Yeah, I loved that.
Matt, Matt had a question. He's like I'd also love to know
Kyle's thoughts in the first time on the first time players
brought a potentially romantic character relationship to the
story without tipping him off asopposed to Wild Love and Hell

(01:10:23):
Hath No Fury where the relationships were central for
the main story. And then I guess the the next
his next question kind of is part of this answer too.
Also wondering what's going on through Kyle's head as I
basically became the DM for like3 minutes during the party's
introduction to the. At least 1014 three, yeah. 3
not. Considering how much was cut out

(01:10:43):
of this. Maybe 3 after, yeah.
Taking that risk a lot in this campaign where it's like, I
guess the answering the DM question first where I've been
like, hey, here's kind of the narrative I'm here to help, but
like I don't have a built in NPCthere that can really like lead
you guys, right. And so like the western world

(01:11:05):
was to have that a lot. This one had that a lot and it's
worked out great in this campaign.
And then the, you know, not knowing about the relationship
was such a fun moment as a listener to be like, Oh yeah,
because I didn't know I didn't, I didn't know any of that.
I didn't know they're they weren't going to end up
together. And I knew that they were

(01:11:26):
talking about it, right, becauseI knew that they were
collaborating and I was really excited to see what they came up
with. So I, I, I, I thought it was
great. I think I've also learned some
of my preferences through this campaign.
It's probably not something thatI'll, you know, love in the
future. It's like, oh, I think I do
actually always want to know what players are planning
because like as the DM, it's it's help, helpful to know and

(01:11:51):
like I can be a great collaborator on those things
too. But it was it was a fun reveal.
But specifically answering the question, is it, you know,
something I, you know, want to do in the future?
Probably not as much, but but yeah, I like to know those
details usually. But this was it worked out great
and I knew that it was going on.I didn't ask SO.

(01:12:13):
Yeah. But but yeah, that was, yeah,
it's so fun because I didn't know.
And then it was just fun to be like, ha, ha.
Sorry Becca, you don't get your perfect love story between the
two. I know all he wants in life is
just for everyone to have love. It doesn't have to be romantic
love, though. And so I guess it kind of
actually worked out in the end. Yeah.

(01:12:35):
You know, it's just a different kind of love.
So. Right.
But we do highly encourage romantic love here as well.
If anyone out there is thinking of playing some character, I
like romantic love and and non romantic love.
So next time just don't bait andswitch me, you know?
That's all I'm saying, yeah. I don't play with my emotions.
Awads, Yeah, you can actually. You can see it on Becca's face,
but Scott's actually the one who's the most pissed about

(01:12:57):
this. That's true.
I'm upset. It's.
True. You guys, you guys fought the
war mech that that fell down that one Mav was asking for that
SAP block. It's in the Technomancers
textbook. I was excited about the just
being this big old mech that's like ACR 19 and have you guys
fight it and took it down relatively quickly and easily.

(01:13:20):
It felt like. But but that was pretty fun.
And then this, the big sacrificeand yeah, happened, which was
just a that was such a. Cool moment.
Yeah, it was because you guys were like, I loved because you
guys okay. Like it's time.
Like Viper, you gonna go do the thing?
Like this is what I felt like you guys like okay, go and

(01:13:43):
waiting for them then. I know that they know that it's
not something they can even do like that at this point.
You know, I don't know if it clicked in my mind that it was a
true sacrifice until like, well,after the fact.
Like it was until like, their bodies were lifeless on the
ground that, like me, Becca did not process that at all.
For the entire time I was like, am I just dumb?

(01:14:05):
I think it works in the episode that Namby's not a dummy and
just as like speaking to the like empty husk of Paolo, but
like Brooke was like, I'm talking to Paolo, like he's
there. I'm giving him his sheets of
journal. Like I was also not like
realizing that it was like, no, they like fully sacrifice

(01:14:27):
themselves. I do think I I cut it in a way
that I think it reads more. But it's like you're.
Welcome, because I remember in the moment feeling like, oh,
they don't get that, like he's gone, gone, like Kyle's going to
have to say, like pal is fuckinggone, you know, for this to to
click. But I do think it works well for
being namby like going like in character going up.

(01:14:49):
Yeah, and it makes sense that she's just talking to him being
like, hey, if you if by any chance there's computer in
there, they can hear me like this is what I'm doing and
saying. But yeah, Brooke was not
processing missing that at. All yeah it was yeah it was a
cool moment I really liked it and they were excited about that
moment the players were as well to say like to to know this is

(01:15:13):
going to happen and very complexemotions that they were going to
that they were having to go through for this for their
episodes that they're in you know which is like oh they're
they're they have this back story that's not real they're
their likeness has been used against the world and humans now
they're they're for the humans and now they're you know it's
like they're. Giving us like their real lived

(01:15:36):
experience for the promise of a life that is just memories that
were implanted in them by the AIthat controlled them like.
I Speaking of Speaking of just like that whole vibe, I thought
Landy as lad did such a good jobbeing like he's not looking
great, you know, like he was like he doesn't he's not really

(01:15:57):
taking care of himself. Like we found out that Paolo has
still been doing drugs this whole time because they're so
beneficial to like the war effort and then like Kitty or
you know, Viper and Paolo like really didn't end up being a
thing. So it was like a very like
bittersweet to kind of negative ending as far as like, I mean,
I'm sure their day to days are fine, but like as far as the

(01:16:17):
story we had set up going in like kind of a like not so great
situation that they're all in and then they sacrifice
themselves. Like it was just all really all
really well done and really wellplayed by the the people.
I agree. Like I really liked Landy's in
particular of the like kind of leaning in the like he kind of
has that like what the fuck's the point kind of thing of like

(01:16:38):
why would I bother taking care of myself?
None of this is real. This isn't even my own body.
And I appreciated that like he went that route because I think
that that is like a really authentic interpretation of it.
Like some people will will be there like, oh, OK, I just have
to focus, you know, I can't think 12 too much.
I'm going to focus on this new project, saving, saving all of
this. Then others going to be like,

(01:16:59):
none of this matters. Everything is horrible and my
plants all died so. Yeah, but they still have the
fun game where they like earn points for taking things down.
Like it is definitely like thereare like sweet things.
Human aspects. Yeah, yes, for sure.
It was very, it was very good. One of Kitty's questions was

(01:17:21):
asked just after listening to Dallas restoring the Turning a
team's memories. Did Humans, Ladd, Ben, and Paulo
all get captured in the same AI raid?
Or did one of them get captured beforehand and have their
sanctuary revealed to Hihachi through their memories?
Or did one of them lure the others to Hihachi after they
themselves were captured and turned into an Android?

(01:17:41):
I can answer that. That it was all separate like it
before. It wasn't.
You know, Paulo didn't lead Viper and and and there wasn't
like a trap that like one of them started doing to the others
and then it like spread that they had originally been
captured. And used for some.
Other purposes like they except for Lad.
Lad was not used for any purposes because he was a healer

(01:18:04):
and AS and so he actually didn'thave an immediate need for him
so just shut him down for years.Yeah, that one was heartbreaking
too of just like yeah, you didn't have any value so you
just like SAT life lift it's. Already going through, but it
doesn't matter. And then and then.
It's like, oh. You just.
Don't fucking matter. I enjoyed being able to do what

(01:18:26):
I I've always wanted for Ben biofuel and just turn him into a
car. And so he I feel like that's
just fitting. That's just his the way his
things would go for him usually is.
If he could just turn into a car, he'd be happier.
So he was a car. A very interesting kind of trans
character I don't know. Yeah.
He. Was a car.

(01:18:47):
He was a transhuman, Yeah, although not transhuman because
he's not a human. But that's.
So funny. Anyway, yeah.
The ship, the rocket goes down, crashes on the ground, the AI
get liberated all across the land, and then the Prius starts
coming toward you guys and the OBLAC starts piling out with its

(01:19:08):
simulacrums. And you guys have the first time
that you guys have spoken to theOblacs really and.
IRLA. Fight with the Oblx, but the
three of you against this doubleOblx you know it at kind of its
double strength where Emtero hadfought it at its single strength

(01:19:33):
that that was a that was that was fun to hear your guys's the
reactions to that and and specifically telling the Oblacs
off about like what your your each each one of you everything
you said to the Oblacs at the end like when I was listening to
it when I was putting the music to it I was like yeah, like yeah

(01:19:56):
like I was so I was like cheering in my head for.
You hear that guys? D Ms. Inspiration for all of us
in the last. Yeah, that's what I heard.
Well, it you're the things you said to us as the public in
character, truly, I at least forme, led to that because it was

(01:20:19):
like you fully hit at the heart of each of our characters, I
think in a really directed, really simple way that was like,
damn, he is coming for. US.
It really just made me and Beccaindignant by calling Namby.
That's that is very true. That was the.
Thing that that's a really pissed everybody off I just.
Like you piss off Becca with that where I was like I will

(01:20:42):
fucking come through this computer right now.
Yeah, no, I think you did such agood job, like Brooke said, of
honing in on like the the the biggest insecurity that I think
like we have said, but we actually like haven't really
said those. I think we may have like come up
with it like like the three of us, like maybe chatting, but not

(01:21:05):
like. I don't think it's like you
really did a good job of like, yeah, yeah, I think it was.
It was perfect. Oh, yeah, sorry.
No, Like it was just, it was just so well done.
I'm just going to both apologizenonstop.
Well, you guys were both saying that like starting and stopping

(01:21:26):
at the same time. It's like one of those things.
That's going to happen over at. Discord recordings where it's
like, oh, oh, they stop, sorry, and then they start talking
because there's that delay. It's.
Really funny. Yeah.
I think that was really well done, Kyle, because like I even
with Hughes, I like, I don't think I had even put into words
about like in my to myself of his, his embarrassment of his

(01:21:51):
mom and like his like how that would have manifested like
throughout his childhood in Daggerford.
And so it really like it almost caught me off guard.
I was like, oh fuck, it's true. The three of us have been
circling around these things andit's like we had been exploring
a lot of stuff related to it, but you just really fucking cut
to the heart of it. And it was.

(01:22:12):
It was, so it was. Gut wrenching.
I was. Yeah, I was.
It hurt. I had chills.
I really was like feeling it in the moment.
And I was. I was pissed for my party.
Members as well, yeah, yeah, like it was very effective,
yeah. Yeah, the the Oblix is this
villain is so has been so much fun to play and so difficult to

(01:22:33):
play as well because because it because it has like no other
villain that I've played like knows your you guys so well,
right. Like the whole thing is that it
has all of your memories, you know, and and so like what
psychologically, like it does psychic damage.
So like what what is it going todo?
It's going to try and wreck you psychologically and been very

(01:22:57):
fun to try and figure that out in the campaign is like what is
you know, how to how do I try and get to this character's
before it's hard? It's not I feel like it's
difficult to do that. So I'm glad that it worked and
that that was the reaction you guys had because it's been very
the outbox has just been a very fun BBEG to run like it's it's

(01:23:23):
it's fun. It pushes some boundaries that I
that I don't, you know, wouldn'twant to run this every time, you
know, but but it is it has been very, you know, fun when it
works and I think it it worked really well.
This only works because we all trust each other a lot.
And like, no, like we're all open to like being emotionally

(01:23:47):
manipulated to some level, obviously, because that's like,
what's going on. I mean, like, so yeah, not
something that you can just throw out at people Willy nilly,
but like when you can do it in ain a safe space, it's it's very
cool. It's very cool when it makes
sense too, if it like, so like if it's organic in the the
campaign, which I think in this,it makes 1000% sense that it

(01:24:10):
would be like going for mental blood basically with all of
these kind of things. Because like there's some
campaigns where it wouldn't really make sense for them to be
like targeting on that like psychological, emotional level
all the time like this. So it's been really fun to
navigate, especially just like as like me myself, I love the
drama. I'm like a total drama llama
when it comes to like DND campaigns and, and the trauma of

(01:24:33):
it all. And so like, it's been very cool
to begin to explore that versus just like, oh, my character just
got slashed with a sword kind ofthing.
And like, Oh no, no, they just brought up all of their
childhood trauma to surface. I mean, like not to get too like
philosophical and like whatever,but like AD and D is a good way

(01:24:55):
to work through trauma and like,Oh yeah, work through things
you're trying to work through asa actual person, not just a
character. And like there's a lot of namby
or in me, like I put a lot of myself in that character for
sure. So like it is kind of nice and
like a very healthy safe space to be like these are the things
that I maybe am also working through as a person.

(01:25:19):
Whatever time that I come clean,that when she said she put a lot
of namby and a lot of herself and namby, I was that stuttering
boy that she refused to let joinher.
Yeah, No, absolutely not. We will not.
Oh no. Yeah.
I agree. Like I've got a lot of hue like
in me and like I, I purposely like have been working through

(01:25:41):
like a lot of like I haven't lost a sister, but there has
been a lot of like similarities with like some of the trauma
that I've been going through without how like Hugh has, has
been navigating his loss with his sister.
And I think that like, that's one of the really cool things
about D&D is that it can be a light and fluffy, like, you
know, I'm going trick or treating for candy mechanic, or

(01:26:03):
it can be like some like a way that you can navigate your own,
your own life stories and, and like a way that it can be
healthy and safe. So you just don't know how my.
Trauma, going for candy, trick or treating.
It's just the fun. We have to talk about Namby's

(01:26:23):
memory, please. Oh gosh, yeah, we can't.
Just skip that. Memory the stuttering boy I.
Was. So excited to know.
Is that you? Brooke Because I knew this is
such a simple thing, you know, this is such a simple, you know,
the the All Blacks has put put Hugh in front of his sister and,

(01:26:43):
you know, hoped that you would change the story.
But you didn't put Emtero in this weird, you know, place
where he was talking to his younger self and could, could,
could ask For more information, you know, from the mother, which
would change everything. But the Diablo X is not, I mean,

(01:27:04):
from the from those two experience, it's not like
straightforward. It hasn't been straightforward.
Make this decision, change everything.
You know, it's, you know, it's kind of trying to trick people,
right? And so like Namby's thing was
literally a make this decision. Be nice to this person.
Just be nice to this person. And you can change things and
you can change a lot from it. And yeah, I was, it was just, it

(01:27:30):
was great to watch you struggle with that so hard.
I. Struggled with it a lot.
Yeah. OK.
So I I was the last of the threeof us to kind of like create my
character like you guys had likereally clear ideas straight away
and I kind of like struggled to maybe like conceptualize namby a

(01:27:51):
little bit. And Kyle had asked us for
memories good and bad. And so I knew that you guys had
like loss in your families and Ijust wanted to go like a route
with her that was like more mundane and less like overtly
traumatic but still impactful like losing a family member is

(01:28:16):
obviously a huge thing that's going to impact your life moving
forward. But like those little things
that stick with you like I stillhave memories from when I was in
like elementary school that I was like, I just wish I had
changed the way I had reacted tothis person or like, you know,
like those those little things day-to-day.
I was like, I want to kind of pay tribute to and if it fits in

(01:28:39):
with like the whole anxiety thing to like just pay tribute
to those little moments that really stick with you and that
you regret, even though I don't even know if that person
remembers that moment or not. In this case, I think they did.
Yeah. So yeah, that's kind of where it

(01:29:00):
stemmed from. And Kyle and I did not
collaborate on that beforehand. My memory was very vague.
It was, I went to school. I was feeling insecure.
I said something really mean to somebody and it's my biggest
regret. Like that's literally what I
said. So I went into that scene blind.
I did not know what was going onor what was coming.

(01:29:24):
I had a feeling it would be thatmemory if something happened in
this battle because it was kind of the one left that we hadn't,
like, addressed. But yeah, I mean, I just think
there's really something impactful about.
Like, this was just a day she did something bad because she
was insecure, and she literally has not moved on from it.

(01:29:45):
Like she still feels bad about it but can't do anything about
it. What I what I really liked was I
included this really obvious hook that you could have made
fun of this boy for the stuttering and then like even
Namby just doesn't make fun of his stuttering, just like just
dismisses him and then you know,and.
Just implies that the stutter means that he's not very smart,

(01:30:08):
but doesn't make fun of the stutter overtly.
Yeah, like it. Was just a nice little touch.
It was like, oh, you know, like it was, it was, I don't know,
it's cool. Namby's just a, you know, nice,
you know, But like, this was, yeah.
Very Namby's memory is the most emotionally devastating.
Of all the memories, I think it's because we've been there,

(01:30:30):
right? Like we all have those things.
I mean, like, at least I do where that like on those anxiety
nights where I'm laying in bed and I'm just replaying every
like, like asshole or stupid thing that I've done on repeat.
Like it was so relatable. Like Scott's oof in there that
like is in the actual recording.I like felt in my court.
I was like, yeah, we all been there, man.

(01:30:51):
It is a. Real tough moment.
I think it's a 2. Prong it's a 2 prong kind of
trauma in that it is like it's both the innocence of this kid
who is stuttering too, but also that innocence within yourself
at that like stage in a way, youknow you're very young when
you're you're making that decision out of like a
youthfully in the way that. Yeah, and like a desperation to

(01:31:12):
fit in yourself, like. You want it like you feel bad
for yourself for being in a place to even do something that
you would regret in that way. Now you know, Yeah.
Yeah, this memory was like, most, like, I feel like it was
one of Kyle's most diabolical ones because not only did he,
like, set that hole up, but it'slike all of us were like, oh,
man. Yeah.
But then I had everyone like or yeah, everyone was like, I think

(01:31:37):
I. Started laughing at one point
because I was so like Oh my God this is so mean.
Yeah. And then the dude comes in.
Yeah, yeah. Like comes as like, hey, like it
pulls the Palpatine, right? Like right?
I love the the shitty Palpatine offer that he.
Makes like you can. Like he's a cleric that's from

(01:31:57):
the same city as Imtiro's mom. Like maybe we can.
Find. Maybe we can find.
A But also if you like if you dothis then he stays and then you
know river is is is stayed or issaved by you know you.
On the trip, yeah. Going on the trip because that,
you know, that boy is there too.Yeah, I think, I think it was

(01:32:18):
more the boy was there and he ended up being like a great
cleric for Seoul, right. But instead he drops out.
And so and so there's like, you know, the Obelix is like trying
to get you like, so bad to like choose that direction.
Yeah, I honestly did not. I was so worried about the
memory in the moment, but I was not even thinking about what

(01:32:42):
would change if this changed. And so then you were like, oh,
if you, if you're nice to this person, everything is good.
Our world is fixed. If you were just nice for this
boy, 1. One moment.
Like oh God, the torture was. Needed to feel included and he
would have stayed in school. And the, and the most tragic
thing about it is that it's exactly what was happening to

(01:33:04):
Namby, Like hurt people, hurt people, you know, like it's,
it's, it's saying people say because it's true.
Because it's real, yeah. And yeah, so.
And then being like, I will makeyou watch your friends die for
like, he really went for it. It was good.
It was good, yeah, but it was intense.

(01:33:25):
Yeah, Oblex. Yeah, he's kind of mad about it,
but. Maybe the Oblex has really hurt
guys because they've hurt. Maybe the Oblex was that
centered boy. Extreme you guys can fix the
oblex. Yeah, maybe we just need to
psychotherapy him. Power of love and friendship.
It will become a a pink of Lex instead.

(01:33:46):
Yeah, we're just going to get beanbag chairs and all, sit in a
circle and we're going to talk about what hurt us.
But yeah, I was genuinely nervous after that happened that
I was like, Oh no, people are going to hate Namby, I think.
That made everyone relate so hard to namby because I think
we've all done that crap. Yeah, Oh, man, I have.
I have this joke that I made in middle school that I'm not going

(01:34:08):
to repeat, but it's literally like something that comes back
is like, man, I was such a turd in that moment that I made a
joke to a kid. We we also have a specific
memory right now that we can think like.
Yeah, like. Yeah, that.
Comes in. It's like, man, I was.
I mean, that is where this memory came from.
Like I have a moment. I have a moment like that.
So like, yeah, not to that level, but like I have a moment

(01:34:31):
that I regret. So much to Scott it was, to
Scott, right it was. Yeah, stuttering.
The I think the moment you regret was yes, I agree.
I'll come do this podcast then. No, I love it.
Like I said, it's a good way to work through all of that stuff
that you're hanging out to and that you're you know, it's just

(01:34:52):
it obviously do it safely and make sure you're doing it in a
way that has boundaries and stuff like that.
Like you can't just throw yourself into it too much
because then you might end up retraumatizing yourself.
But yeah, so it's it's good. So we're figuring out that I
should start a psychotherapy clinic where we go through you,
you tell me what your worst memories are and the the villain

(01:35:15):
will be the Oblex and we'll we'll play through it.
Right. And I get to still do my doctor
thing and I get to to play. Do it.
The thing is, you might have to.You might.
Have to do like 10 episodes leading up to that where someone
makes bonds with other people that are there to support them
because otherwise maybe not so much.
Well, yeah, because it'll work better and also I can bill more

(01:35:36):
for it you. Know totally, exactly yeah.
Group race. It's all about the money.
And at one point. I don't remember.
I don't remember if it was pre or post the memory.
I don't remember it was pre or post the memory, but at one
point my character was once again Kyle at one HP.

(01:35:58):
Wow, you. Love 1 HP, You love one HP.
You love making me have one, HP.This happens on the podcast, it
happens off the podcast, it happens so.
Often times it's so often that you're A1 HP.
It's just. Every time.
And I never know what your HP is.
I'm just rolling and it's alwayssome big ability that does like
52, you know, points of. Yeah, I guess you're down to

(01:36:19):
like 1 and then you're. Down to 1.
So great. Was that a great job Namby?
Oh, go. Ahead I was just going to ask if
if I had made the save because Ijust didn't make the save which
is why I did the eat memories like would this memory have
happened that like would did youhave a backup plan for this
memory I'm. Trying to remember the details
because the the IT was trying toget you down to 0 and

(01:36:42):
unconscious so you couldn't makethe save and I don't think it
got there. I don't.
Think no because I was at one HPwhen I.
When I failed to save. One HP so so then you failed to
save. So, so that was, that was like
me, you know. Stacking the deck.
The All Blacks hoping that you were going to, you know, fail at
that moment because I was like, Dang, I really thought I was
going to get you down to 0. So basically one more round than

(01:37:05):
it probably would have happened then regardless.
Yeah, but it it didn't have muchhealth at that point, you guys
were. That's true.
We were close because. Right after it happened.
I think you'd like destroyed it.Basically, it had very, very few
left and at that point it it letHugh hit it because it didn't
realize the the the next step ofthe plan, which will be revealed

(01:37:30):
next episode that comes out. But at the end of this episode,
you guys are Mammy makes the right choice.
Great job, Mammy good job made the right choice.
You didn't. Let that fucking story with his
stutter join the group. You made the right choice, he.
Was a nerd and a loser. That's the moral of the story.
Stories. Pickle the.
Nerds. Scott probably cut out so much

(01:37:51):
of me rambling and just being like, what am I doing?
Freaking out, what am I doing? Is like Scott.
Probably. Cut out a lot of.
Bonus episodes. It's going to be the captain.
Being. Interrogated and the Namby's
decision. Yeah.
So Oblix dies and big portal opens up on the ground and the

(01:38:13):
old tea fling woman I always I think.
It's Beatrice. Beatrice.
Yeah, Because Beatrice is. I love her, and so I have never
forgotten her. From hell hath no fury.
I always want to say the wrong name for her, but it's Beatrice
because it's. From Dante's, yeah.
Dante's love is is Beatrice, butbut she shows up, says sorry to

(01:38:35):
be the one to tell you this, butyou're all going to hell.
And that's where the story goes.Yeah.
And yeah, and exciting, excitingto go to hell.
And at this point, we're This isthe Chaser for 12 through 14.
There are total of 20 episodes for this campaign and the next

(01:38:57):
chaser that will do will be at the end of the campaign.
Yeah, I will say the when I whenBeatrice arrived, like Becca's
brain was very like, like, oh, we're going to hell.
And then I immediately started thinking of the character.
I don't want to give anything away, but I started thinking of
like the characters on hell. And then, like me, he, as Hugh,

(01:39:20):
was like, Oh no. Diandra, Something I've been
waiting for since the very firstepisode.
I'm like, oh good, because I. Just like this whole thing,
because I was so excited becauseI love Beatrice.
I have since like the moment youstarted Playground.
Hell have no fury and like as soon as it was her I was like I

(01:39:40):
squealed with joy and then like literal dreads set in as Diane
dress. Oh gosh.
Yeah, so exciting. Listen to find out more about
how that goes, everybody. Any any final thoughts about the
episodes that we did? Anything else you guys wanted to

(01:40:02):
say or bring up I. Think that was everything I had.
I think I got everything. Yeah, it was very good.
Well. Great job to all of our crowning
AI achievement friends who were part absolutely.
Very fond for. Me to collaborate with you.
All on the story and. On the longest arc.

(01:40:23):
Yep, Yep, the the longest arc with the kind of the break in
between, with the kind of the side stories, a lot of story
that happened with this, it was it's pretty cool.
It was, it's a lot of layers, a lot of cool stuff.
So so yeah, with that, I think we'll close off the Chaser for
this episode, for these episodes, for tonight.

(01:40:43):
And thank you to all the three of you for joining.
Scott. Becca and Brooke.
And with and with Brooke. And with Brooke and with
featuring. Yes, featuring.
I'd like the featuring please. Really it's it's Kyle and Scott
and then our special guests Brooke and back up because Scott

(01:41:05):
and I do the chasers all the time and you guys are like the
special guests as the. Rest of the.
Intruders. Yeah.
Yeah, we're the interlopers. Interlopers.
If you're not already in the discord, you need to join the
discord listeners because that'swhere we you can post chaser
questions and and join in on thespoiler chat when the new

(01:41:26):
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YouTube and TikTok. And if you like us, give us some
good five star reviews. Join our disc.
I already said join our discord that's in.
Do it again. Do it twice.
What? Do I get for reading off a
little thing the. Discord's real fun so it gets it
twice. Make 2 profiles, speak to
different people. It'll be fun.
Thank you to. Tyler Allenberger for our theme

(01:41:46):
song. Thank you Zazer for our artwork.
And with that, we will see you next time at the Tall Tale Tap.
Thank you for laying to the plane for me.
Can you do it again in the Landyvoice, please?
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
Thank you for listening to the Tall Tail Tavern podcast and I'm
done. I'm stopping this now.
You do it in Paolo voice. Oh, bye, bye.

(01:42:12):
Spot on, Paolo. That is it.
Stop.

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