April 25, 2024 • 44 mins
I just got back from Coaching Con 2024 where I was in the room with some of the best fitness/nutrition coaches in the WORLD!
At this conference I pulled aside a few of the best and biggest names I could to bring YOU some amazing value and insight into how they create success for their clients and themselves.
In these mini-interviews I asked each coach 5 questions, three of which related to fitness and nutrition and the other two about life.
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00:00 - Intro
00:32 - Jared Hamilton
14:54 - Andrew Garritson
27:35 - Jordan Maybach
33:07 - Ryan Johnson
44:15 - Thanks for watching!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to the Taught Not Told podcast.
I am so excited to share withyou four more amazing mini
interviews from CoachingCon 2024in Orlando, florida.
I pulled aside four of the bestcoaches that I know personally,
that I got to ask three healthand fitness questions and two
(00:20):
life advice related questionsthat I think you're going to
find a ton of value in.
So please enjoy and take amoment to subscribe, because
there's going to be a lot morevideos coming, just like this.
I want to introduce to you guysmy good friend, jared Hamilton.
Honestly, guys, he's one of thecoaches I respect the most, not
(00:40):
only for his success, but alsohis communication skills, and I
definitely will be posting hispodcast in the description.
It is like one of my favoriteto listen to, but, that being
said, I'm really excited to diveinto these questions,
absolutely so, uh, I have threequestions about health and
fitness, and then I have threemore and more life, or two more,
uh, more life and uh, lifeadvice.
(01:01):
Realm right, I love this idea.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
You're so smart, dude and life advice.
Realm right.
I love this idea.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah, you're so smart dude, I stole this idea from
Jared and you guys can hear adifferent version of it on his
podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
But you, to be fair, you saw the idea and ran with it
.
So that's the thing, is you'rethe smart one.
It's like, oh, that worksreally well, I'm going to do the
same thing.
So you're the smart one.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I'm definitely going to try to put my own unique spin
on it, but uh, you already areright now.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Thank you, bro, Appreciate that.
So my first question what isthe biggest misconception about
fitness or nutrition that you'dlike to either debunk or kind of
prove otherwise?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
The first.
There's so many, but the firstthat came to my head is that
it's supposed to be slow.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Oh, I like that.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Um.
Can you elaborate?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
So I'm, I'm big on like whatever first comes to
your head, right, um, from, inmost cases, um, but uh, that's
the thing is, most bad decisionsand weight loss are made
because of a misunderstanding ofspeed.
Uh, one of the analogies I useis I'm like with pregnancy,
everyone knows like.
With pregnancy, nine months isaround the magic number, a
little more, a little less, butlike nine months, is it?
(02:07):
Um?
But if you look at, if you lookat the person, that's, let's
say, the gestation period ofpregnancy, and you have a mom
who's, let's say, three monthspregnant, she may not be showing
very much, but imagine, if shegoes, I'm not showing something.
It's like, no, just that littlefuckers come out in like nine
months, like they chest.
(02:29):
That little fucker's coming outin like nine months, like
they're 100.
But but what if, uh, what if amom was like um, I'll do
whatever it takes to get it outin three months?
Or or if a doctor said I have acool shot, or I have a pill, or
I have a powder, I have apotion that I can make the baby
come out in three months andit'll be fine?
Um, will it though?
Like you know, like.
But why, though, becauseeveryone knows, nine months is
the magic number it, it's notsupposed to take long.
So I always say weight loss orbuilding muscle or whatever it's
just like.
It's just like pregnancy, it'ssupposed to take.
(02:50):
Nothing cool happens till aboutnine or so months.
Yeah, no, of course you can seeprogress before then.
But if your mindset going intoit is, no, I'm not going to have
what I want for like at leastnine months.
I love that.
That's great, cause it wasbecause the that's great,
because the issue is oh, Ihaven't seen drastic progress.
Great, you're not supposed to100%.
It's supposed to be slow anddon't speed up something that is
meant to be slow, 100%.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I think my favorite thing I've heard on that topic
exactly is like plan for it tobe a year and watch it happen in
six months.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
We actually a question on our intake form for
new clients coming on board.
Is that would you be cooltaking 12 plus months to get to
where you want to be?
If they say no, I won't evenentertain coaching them.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
That's phenomenal.
I'm going to take that as forme as well.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Now, granted, we have options that aren't 12 months,
but if you're not prepared, thenyou're not our people.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
A hundred percent.
That's amazing, man.
Thank you for sharing so Ithink this is a really
interesting one.
You know what's been thebiggest challenge you faced on
your own health and fitnessjourney and how did you overcome
that.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
My own biggest that's such a good question my own
biggest struggle and how Iovercame that?
Because this is an interestingthing is there's levels to this,
like there's this For sure.
Now I would say what comes tomind first is when I was deep in
the trenches, not knowing whatI was doing, because I was the
guy.
I mean, it's I was, it's thesame.
It's.
The reason my content resonateswith so many people is because
(04:09):
I'm basically talking to theversion I was.
So for me, my biggestmisconception was I thought I
had to to.
Uh, I, I believed all thebullshit.
I believed like I, I went,started going into a big
meathead gym with a bunch ofdumbasses.
I didn't know what they'redoing, but they were all taking
steroids, so they obviously knewwhat they were talking about.
So I would talk to guys.
They're like no, the only wayyou can build muscles eat a
dozen eggs a day.
Yeah, I guess, I guess yougotta eat a dozen eggs a day, or
(04:29):
like expensive or like I wasconvinced like fruit, eating
fruit while driving a carsomehow stored fat, because
crazy shit, right.
But I didn't know any better.
I was uneducated.
I did for sure, no judgment, noshame.
But like on paper, I had thewrong information for sure.
So for me it was getting theright information, understanding
, like, the truth about caloriesand how they work in calorie
deficits, like when I found outyou can eat whatever you want in
(04:50):
calorie deficit and nothinginherently stores fat.
I was like it's like I got alottery ticket, bro.
I'm like I can't, I don't haveto, like suppress my cravings
and like then binge on theweekends, like, but I call it a
cheat day, and I was told thatwould your metabolism.
So I was unknowingly validatingbinge eating and having a poor
relationship with food Wow,right.
So for me it was getting theright information on how to lose
(05:11):
weight sustainably.
That goes against the grain ofwhat diet culture teaches.
And that's how I overcame it.
I started studying coaches,unfollowing you know the, the,
the Fitspo, you know Joey's andJane's and things like that and
started leaning into the rightinformation and then applying it
and then watching the resultsspeak for themselves.
And then my life was never thesame.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
That's amazing.
I love that.
I love that answer.
So my third and final question,for health and fitness related,
is you know what would be thenumber one piece of advice you'd
give to someone just startingtheir weight loss journey?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Be okay.
Be okay that it's taken threeyears to get to where you want
to be.
Like fuck the 12-month thing.
Like literally be okay, takingliterally like the next three to
five years and it'll be fine.
Like it literally will be somuch better.
The people I've worked with alot of people, probably
thousands at this point beencoaching for the last 12 ish, 13
(06:07):
years professionally okay.
Our friends with the bestcoaches in the world and the as
far as from a client and resultside of things.
The people who try to to loseweight the fastest, struggle the
longest.
And the people who quiteliterally release the attachment
to the timeline in our case, orwho literally say to themselves
(06:28):
we see, with clients, they go,I don't care how long this takes
, it can take as long as at onceI'm going to do my end of the
bargain and the results willshow when they're ready.
Yeah, all of a sudden thatperson had the craziest three to
six months of their life, right, like that's that's it.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
The ones who go fast end up going nowhere.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, the one who want to lose weight the fastest,
struggle the longest.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Absolutely man.
And then, um, wow, that was.
Those were amazing answers, bythe way.
So, um, now switching gears alittle bit, going into the realm
of your life, and so, uh, Ireally like this question when
you asked me and I wanted to askyou the same question.
So I wanted to know what's thebest piece of life advice you've
ever received?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
So I actually didn't receive this from anyone.
I heard it on a piece ofcontent from a couple people
that I look up to, so I took itas if it was given to me.
It is what if it works outbetter than you ever could have
imagined?
So, naturally, growing up veryanxious person, always worried,
always doubtful, alwaysstruggled with trusting myself,
(07:30):
trusting outcomes we're going towork out, always see, like well
, what could go wrong so I couldprepare Right.
But when I heard what if itcould work out better than you
ever could have imagined, I wentwow.
Because the cool thing is theway the brain works.
If we naturally will, what ifourselves into a hole?
Because the brain doesn't liketo be hurt?
It's about self-preservation.
But every the the universeoperates in polarities light,
(07:53):
dark inside the room, outsidethe room, up down, like there's
always a polarity.
So if we can entertain, what ifit doesn't work, we have to to
be fair, entertain what if itworks out better than we ever
could have imagined?
Because now your brain looks atthat possibility and goes, you
know, fair, like what if?
And then I have cases in mylife where it did happen better
(08:14):
than I ever imagined and likethese things happen out in left
field that they should not havehappened, but it's like that was
supposed to have happened.
So that's it.
When I get into a state whereI'm cause we're all human,
myself included like strugglewith worry, doubt and anxiety is
go well, what if it could?
What if it works out betterthan I could imagine?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
So that is the exact reason I want to come on here
because this man communicates sofreaking well.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
A lot of therapy, my man.
I really hope you guys take amoment to sit with that answer.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
That was amazing man.
So I think my last one I wantto leave here with is what fuels
you, what drives you forward,what makes you want to keep
going on this journey of lifethat you are on?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
It's interesting.
Part of me has no idea.
Literally part of me goes Idon't know, has no idea.
They're literally part of megoes I don't know.
Um, I've lived.
I was taught early on in myentrepreneurial journey, early
20s, as, uh, my mentor and likethe whole thing was grow or die.
Yeah, so, like if I, like wewere doing one or the other
right, we're either growing ordying.
It's my entire sleeve is aboutum, but part of me also lives in
(09:22):
the state of like, like, like,what's my potential?
You know, um, it's kind of airyfairy as that sounds, um, but I
, I would just hate to get tothe end of my life and it's like
yo, you could have done thatLike that's who that was the
people you could help, that'sthe impact you could have
created, that's the experiencesyou could have had.
(09:45):
That's the family you, of my ownself, we have to be careful of
that.
So that's a dichotomy.
I'm still.
I don't think we get to a placewhere we've mastered that.
It's on a sliding scale.
One of the weird things I doand I don't talk about this very
often, but I feel like it'srelevant is I actually.
Your audience is either goingto go wow, or they're going to
go you're a you're fucking weird.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Um, I take advice from my 80 year old self.
Solomon, solomon, what are youtalking about?
Uh, like in the Bible?
No, uh, no, uh.
Alex Ramos, he talks about thisand he calls him Solomon or I
forget why, but he talks aboutlike he creates a Google doc and
he has a conversation withhimself as like Solomon.
He calls Solomon.
His 80 year old self talks tohim on a Google doc every day
and I learned that from the,from his podcast, from, uh, Alex
(10:33):
, from Ozzy's podcast, but, uh,I've actually thought about
doing that myself.
So, honestly, I don't, I don'tthink it's weird.
They all might be like what thehell is okay, but can you like
what the hell that's okay?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
that's okay, but can you, can you kind of explain a
little bit like how and why youdo that?
So, um, I'm pretty sure I Iknow I haven't like heard his
talk on it, but I I've heard alittle bits of stuff.
I take a little bit differentapproach, like um, because I
love these deep questions, likelike good, deep conversations,
like one of my favorite things.
And, um, so when I back in theday, when I was reading a big, a
big napoleon hill, okay, andNapoleon Hill, uh, I've read a
(11:05):
lot of his work and one of thethings that he did was he talked
about like he's Napoleon Hill,interviewed 500 of the world's
most successful people, wrotethe book thing grow rich, right?
Yeah, well, in his next bookafter he died, that got
published.
They waited till he died topublish it.
It's called Outwitting theDevil, where it's basically not
so great interviews and what helearned from that.
It's fucking intense.
(11:25):
But one of the things NapoleonHill did was he basically went
into the boardroom of his mindand had interviews to seek
counsel from these amazinghumans.
What would Abe Lincoln say aboutthis?
What would Thomas Edison sayabout this?
What would Henry Ford say aboutthis?
Modern day would be like.
What would Steve Jobs say aboutthis?
What advice would Tony robbinsgive me?
(11:47):
Like, whatever it may be, yeah,um, but the question is I think
I may have heard this from alexalex's who, like your 80 year
old old self, 90 year old self,truly has your best interest at
heart.
Um, there's a level ofunderstanding about you no one
else can have.
Like, yeah, like I could, Iwould love to have ed my letter.
Tony robbins, tell me, like,strategize with me.
(12:07):
There's still a level that theycan't understand about me.
But no one's going to have theself-awareness or understanding
at the right levels other thanyou.
That's why self-awareness is sokey.
So who would have all that ismy 80 or 90 or 100 year old self
.
So I will literally get.
This is so weird.
I will literally get into likea meditative state, especially
when I'm struggling withsomething, and I like I was I
(12:27):
did this somewhat recently,because it's not an all the time
thing I was literally at mylike on our deck on my fire pit
and I was literally likemeditating, like eyes closed,
whatever, and I literallyvisualized myself across the
fire pit, from me, this wrinkly80 year old motherfucker, and I
was wrinkly 80 year oldmotherfucker and I was just
quiet.
I was just like what would it?
Because obviously he knows whatI'd be struggling with, or like
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I would be like in my mind,like having a conversation, um,
because it's kind of it's almostlike reverse inner child work,
like you know, like it's provenin psychology.
We teach this with our clients.
I do it, um, you can go backand have a conversation with
your inner child and actuallyheals and all these things.
Why can't I do that, that theother way Again, that law of
polarity.
So if I can go back in time andhave a conversation with my 13
(13:09):
year old self in my head andit's proven to heal.
Why can't I go to the 80 yearold self and seek counsel?
Whether this is, some maybelieve, like there's that
version of myself that lives ina universe somewhere that I'm
tapping into.
I don't.
I don't know.
Or if it's this sense ofknowing deep down Because we all
use that term it's like, oh,I'm worried, but I know deep
(13:30):
down it's going to be okay.
Well, we can access that deepdown.
This is something I learnedfrom Kyle Cease.
There's a level of a deep downwisdom we all have, and so for
me it is the 80-year-old self,the 100-year-old self.
So for me it's the state that Iget into and I feel like I can
tap into it.
It's fucking weird, but I'mtelling you I'll have notes.
It will literally be as if thewords on those patients, they
(13:53):
were not mine.
Wow, I literally have the note.
Actually, I have a it's calleda remarkable, it's like a Kindle
notebook, right a like a it'scalled a remarkable, it's like a
kindle notebook, right and Ihave like all of it, and so this
way, when I'm struggling, I goback to it in whatever 80 year
old jerry, it's literally likedude, it's so trippy, like I got
into that state and I go okay,wrote that down.
I go back, you have like twopages of notes and I'm like
(14:13):
those are not my words.
Yeah, I don't know what we callgod, the universe, somewhere,
my 80 year old self, I don'tknow, but it's what I needed to
hear in that moment.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
So that was again again, I'm telling you guys,
make sure you listen to hispodcast.
And uh, jared, I would love toask you if, in the near future,
there's two topics that I knowthat you are, uh, someone I
respect the most when they'retalking about these two things,
which is the inner work that youjust mentioned, as well as
self-sabotage, and I think thoseare two things that I would
(14:44):
love to go deep, yeah, with you,uh, on a podcast in the near
future.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
So okay, just tell me what.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Absolutely.
Let's do it, bro.
I appreciate you, jared.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Thank you again for coming on love you, man,
absolutely this is andrewgarretson, garretson, garretson.
This is andrew garretson.
Uh, gerritsen Gerritsen,gerritsen, gerritsen.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
This is Andrew Gerritsen.
That's kind of racist, but no,I love it.
Yeah, Andrew Gerritsen.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
So my man here is a coach that you should definitely
know, you should definitelyfollow, probably one of the most
brilliant minds I've everspoken to and had the
opportunity to have aconversation with.
And so, my man, questions foryou.
Okay, let's do it.
Three of them are health andfitness related, okay, uh, which
I think you're a perfect fit toanswer, uh.
And then the ones I thinkyou're a little less fit to
(15:24):
answer are the life advice onesbut I'm going to ask you anyways
, all right, so that being said,man, you know my question.
My first question is what is thebiggest misconception about
fitness and nutrition that you'dlike to debunk?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
biggest misconception about fitness nutrition that
you'd like to debunk, thebiggest misconception around
health and fitness?
Yeah, you know it's.
It's funny because a lot ofthings jump in my head and I
think that's really a greatsymptom of what we're seeing in
the industry right now, which ispeople are really trying to
stand out fitness influencers,people that may have experienced
themselves with their ownhealth and fitness journey and
people that ultimately have alot of anecdotal understanding
(16:04):
of what works for them.
But I think a lot of peoplereally forget that what works
for them may not work foreveryone else, and I think that,
more than anything, the mostimportant thing is to keep it as
simple as you can, maintain theability to execute, because if
you can't do the plan,regardless of how great of a
scientifically based plan it isor how much it worked for
someone else, consistency andexecution is the number one
(16:27):
definitive factor of what allowspeople to really be successful
with pursuing their goals.
That's a phenomenal answer.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Thank you bro.
So my next question would be isyou know, as you know, as
coaches most of us have, been onour own journeys and we've all
faced some sort of challenge.
So what has been the biggestchallenge you faced on your own
health and fitness journey andhow did you overcome?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
that you know it's.
That's a funny one, I think.
So I assume most of theselisteners probably aren't going
to know who I am, and so just alittle bit of backstory.
I was born in Korea, moved toGeorgia and the US when I was
probably about eight years old,and so fitting in was always a
thing to obviously be theforeign kid in the room and
(17:11):
being a little bit different,being in the South Right, and I
think that I wouldn't say racism, but there are definitely some
diversity related tendenciesthat people have, definitely
some diversity relatedtendencies that people have.
You kind of recall what we'retalking about in the beginning.
It's funny that it's kind ofcoming full circle now, all
joking aside, but you know, Ithink one of the biggest
challenges that I had toovercome was feeling like I was
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good enough to want to beincluded, and what I mean by
that is originally because I wasdifferent.
I thought that I wanted to buckthe system and not have to try
to belong, and I thought if Iwas better than everyone else,
everyone would want to try tobelong with me, and it really
created this paradigm thatevolved as I've matured and
evolved and I often find that Ihave a lot of elitist tendencies
(17:57):
that tend to alienate people asI've grown, and that really
makes it a strain on developingmeaningful relationships.
So, while being really good atwhat I do in the education space
with my special operationsbackground, there's a lot of
interpersonal relationships thatI've sacrificed because I've
tried to be better than so thatI wouldn't have to belong, and
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so I think the thing that Ireally learned most, as it
relates to my own personaljourney, comes in the form of
you don't have to knoweverything, and the more you
know, you actually lose a lot ofyour humanity and you lose the
ability to relate to otherpeople.
Because it becomes thatinformation becomes a part of
how you operate in yourday-to-day, which you start to
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resent people.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
That don't understand that and aren't willing to
operate at the same level.
Wow.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
That was a deep man.
Thank you for sharing that.
I really appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
So I know, like I mentioned earlier, it's like you
.
Uh, you have a brilliant mindand I know you've worked with a
lot of people coaches andclients and so I want to know
what would be the number onepiece of advice you'd give to
someone getting started on theirweight loss journey the number
one advice that I would give tosomeone starting their weight
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loss journey would be you know,it's less tactical as I get
older in it, and a lot of thisstuff is definitely grounded in
community.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
You're only a plant, can only grow, even in the best
sunlight, and it has the mostwater and the most nutrients, to
the degree that its soil allows.
And what I mean by that is yourenvironment will be the biggest
determining factor for yoursustainment of a new behavior.
For instance, if you take intoaccount, let's say, that you
know there's a wife and shedoesn't feel great about how she
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looks, her husband may not haveany awareness around that and
she may tell him hey, babe, I'mtrying to lose some weight, you
know I'm trying to eat healthier.
And let's say that in a rareinstance the guy actually goes
grocery shopping.
I shouldn't laugh at that, maybein the rare instance the guy
goes grocery shopping, you knowum, and he's buying junk food
and he's doing all these thingsthat are adding these
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temptations that she may fallprey to.
Uh, because of a lot of groovedin behaviors.
And so the best way to changebehaviors that have been set in
stone for a very long time tochange the environment upon
which a lot of those things areenacted, which is why joining a
gym and finding people that youcan hold yourself accountable
with, not for, because we findthat in psychology research,
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people will do a lot of thingsfor other people that they won't
do for themselves.
And so, when we think aboutputting skin in the game, it
actually looks more like havinga selfless attachment to someone
else and like, hey, I'm goingto come to the gym because I
know that if you don't come, Iwon't come.
And so cultivating thatenvironment is one of the
biggest, strongest things thatpeople can do when they're first
starting out, even more so thanknowing what to do, because in
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community you learn faster, youshare more, you're going to
celebrate each other's wins,you're going to feel better.
You're going to celebrate eachother's wins, you're going to
feel better, you're going tofeel seen, which is actually a
huge missing in these days, andthat's why social media is so
prevalent, that's why people areon there and that's why, when
you look at what people areproducing, a lot of people
actually really struggle to beseen and feeling vulnerable, and
so, having people around youthat, hey, I get what you're
(21:15):
going through.
We're going through the samething that shared suffering.
That's something that I tookfrom the military, which is why,
when you have a lot of peoplethat aren't used to thinking in
that way and you put them into ashared living space for three
months, um, you all develop alot of same values, the same
behaviorisms and a lot of sameyou know ways of thinking, and I
think that that's probably thebiggest shaping factor now if
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you go into an environment whereno one knows what the fuck
they're doing that's.
that's obviously gonna be aproblem, so there should be some
kind of learning in there.
But I think that the tacticalimplementation that might be
finding a small group that youcan train with, that's maybe led
by a personal trainer or anexpert in that, that can really
shape and make sure that you doit well, because mistakes are
costly.
You might find that if you bendover and you do a deadlifting
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correctly, you might find thatif you bend over and you do a
deadlifting correctly, your backgoes out.
Now you think bending over is adangerous thing, when in
reality it might've been thatyou tried it but you didn't do
it well.
And so the supervision elementinside of a community setting
would be the second thing, and Iwould say go find an expert
that you trust, that you like,um, and that understands your
certain circumstances andsituations, so that way you can
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know that your community isgoing to be supported by someone
that's knows and is going toreduce your cost of error.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Absolutely.
I think my the two biggestthings right there that really
hit home with me is thatcommunity and environment, and I
think um those two alone.
If you can find the rightcommunity and create and and
build the right environment, man, you're going to be unstoppable
100%.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Think about football teams.
It's not just a running backright.
That would be crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I don't care how good your quarterback is, but if
your whole team doesn't worktogether in unison, we've
probably seen some of thegreatest teams not be one player
.
It's the entire unit.
It's the family that producesthe best outcomes outcomes in
the super bowls and the ringsand all the praise.
So I love that.
That was fucking beautiful man.
So we're gonna switch gears alittle bit.
Okay, we're gonna talk a littlebit about life advice and I
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want to know what is the bestlife advice you've ever been
given, or?
Speaker 3 (23:14):
that you've received.
You know it's funny, I umthere's a guy when you ask me
that I don't know if this is thebest advice that's ever been
given, but it's the first onejumps to mind.
So, just like thinking throughit, yeah, I love that.
Um, I was sitting in a saunaand it was a co-ed sauna, so it
was a family, it was a as ahusband and wife, um, and it was
while I was working at a in a,a big sitting there.
(23:38):
Um, I walk in and the guy knewme.
He knew me as one of thetrainers and he's trying to make
small talk.
He makes a joke, right, and asI see that I naturally have a
very strong personality, uh, andI kind of three up him and I'm
like, oh okay, you know just thetip, or I kind of say something
like that and his wife kind oftitters and like he's like maybe
(23:58):
you should come in a little bitsofter.
And so one of the reasons whythat sticks out to me isn't
because I could have made thatso hard joke.
Like, obviously that's the easything on the table, but when I
think about coming in softer andtaking the time to get to know
the people in your environment.
I think it it really allows youthe opportunity to again.
Mistakes are costly and so,until you can calibrate across
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the room and read the room andknow who you're sitting across
from, get a, get a sharedunderstanding, which comes
through small talk, which comesthrough finding commonalities
and looking and exploring someof those things before you know,
maybe opening your mouth andsharing a polarizing opinion or
potentially saying somethingmight be very off putting.
That's one of the things that Itook, and this was in like 2013
(24:42):
, 2014.
Like that's kind of stuck withme 10 years later.
You know, as I'm in my 30s now,of just think twice before you
speak when the stakes are higherand you know when it matters.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Amazing man.
Thank you for sharing thatstory.
So my last question is you knowwhat ultimately fuels and
drives you to continue movingforward in this game we call
life?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Being elite.
You know, I wasn't meant to beaverage, and I think that part
of that could be some childhoodtrauma, right, and I think that
people's anxieties will do moreto shape their personalities
than anything else.
What you fear most is the thingyou will do the most to try to
overcome, until you becomeself-aware.
And so, when I think about thethings that I fear most is, um,
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you know, the the idea that mylegacy is meaningless, that the
things I leave behind, whetherit's my family, whether it's the
curriculums that I get to, thatI get to contribute to, that I
get to cultivate in therelationships.
I think a lot of that is whatkeeps me going forward.
And how do I leave everyone alittle bit better than how I
came across them, whether it'sthey feel more connected, they
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feel more educated, they have abetter tactical implementation,
and so, if that's the bigpicture, the way that I, that I
keep myself focused on that dayto day, is, I actually keep a
little you don't have mypermanent marker over there, but
I have a little water bottlethat I put tally marks on, and
so every time I share something,it's customary for me to ask um
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, if I'm thinking about it tosay what did you take away from
that?
And if they share one, two,three, 50 things, then I get to
put those as tally marks on mybottle.
And so every year I have a goalof having a hundred thousand uh,
what I call light bulb moments,or basically epiphanies in
people.
That uh is a very cleartransactional way for me to do
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this thing.
That people like, wow, you'reso, you know, you're so giving,
you're so sharing with yourinformation.
Like it's kind of selfish in alot of ways, and I think that
it's okay to be selfish as longas it serves a common good.
And you want to think about howcan you be constructively
selfish to forward theconversation for a community to,
to really champion an industryor to challenge the status quo
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in a way that's not just selfserving, but also how can we be
community serving in that way?
But if you don't take care ofyourself and you don't make it
something that's very personalto you, aka selfish, you're
going to find that it's reallychallenging to stay focused and
that's where people tend to getblown off course very frequently
, because it's not somethingthat's really tied to their
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depth of core and a scoreboard,so to speak.
So my scoreboard and my fearand anxieties are probably the
things that keep me going.
If I put a, put a bow on all ofit, wow.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Andrew, that was phenomenal man.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Thank you so much.
Yeah, of course, absolutelyThanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Up next we have my friend Jordan, who I just met
yesterday and, funny enough, shejust so happens to work at the
same gym in a different city, inLong Beach, and it just so
happens that all the way acrossthe entire nation we came in
contact and ultimately, I sawthat she was a great coach and I
wanted to ask her thesequestions.
So, that being said, I want toknow what is the biggest
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misconception about fitness ornutrition that you would like to
debunk or talk a little bitabout.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
I think, overall, what I see within my clients is
just not eating enough.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Especially in female clients.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Yes, you know they'll come to me and say that they're
eating great.
It's always what they like tosay.
I eat really good, you know.
Super clean, super clean.
Yeah, I have like a salad and,like you know, and super clean,
super clean.
Yeah, I have like a salad and,like you know, maybe a smoothie
here and there, um, and that'sit, and overall they're eating
like maybe one actual meal perday.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
A hundred percent.
I agree with that.
I see that way too often, sowhat should they actually do
instead?
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Uh, so I like to do with my clients is start with
macro counting.
Okay, um, if that is a positionthat they're ready to be in,
depending on mental health.
That's something I like tocheck in with first.
Numbers can be superoverwhelming 100%.
But I think starting with yourmacros is a great place because
it gives you so much freedomwith your food.
You don't feel stuck within ameal plan, or like you have to
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eat chicken and rice, which iswhat I think?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Same shit every day.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Yeah, I think that's what they think I'm going to
have them do.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Right, so, um, I start with macro.
I love that.
I love that.
Thank you for sharing.
So my next question would be isyou know, this one's a little
bit deeper.
So what has been the biggestchallenge that you faced on your
own personal health and fitnessjourney, and how were you able
to overcome that?
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Um so, reason that I became a trainer was to empower
other women, and I think, eventhrough this event, you know, uh
, teaching self-love andlearning how to hype yourself up
to get you from A to B.
So that is what I like to pushinto my clients and something
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that I've had to overcome, whereI never felt like I was enough.
Whether it was in the gym oroutside the gym, I never felt
like I looked good enough.
You know, body dysmorphia isreal.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I still have that yeah it's tough, it's tough.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
So that is something that was my biggest obstacle, so
to speak.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah, and you overcame that.
I believe we talked about thisa little bit, and do you feel
like getting strong, becominghealthy, was part of that
evolution, of overcoming thatchallenge that you face?
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Yeah, I think, maturing in the gym for one, and
then who you surround with too.
You know like the trainers thatI work with are incredible, and
you know seeing so many strongwomen in the industry that also
look different than they did1020 years ago.
You know like we see differentshapes and sizes today 100%
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beautiful.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah, transformations are so powerful in so many ways
, mentally and physically.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I love that.
I love that answer.
So that kind of goes into mylast nutrition and fitness
question, which is like what isthe number one piece of advice
you'd give someone that's juststarting their weight loss
journey?
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Don't make it too complicated.
It's not that complicated.
You don't need every supplementunder the sun.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
You don't need any at all.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Yeah, you don't need to worry about brown rice versus
white rice.
You know, keep things simple.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
That debate.
That's hilarious.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, simple is easier and I feel like to
piggyback off.
I feel like so often people arelike I'm going to throw the
whole kitchen sink at it.
I'm going to try to changeevery aspect of life.
It's like just pick one thingand make it simple and start
there.
You know.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
So I completely agree .
Yeah, that's another thing too,if I can add you know baby
steps, and if you make a mistake, don't say I fucked up, so it's
all fucked up, you know, andthen fall backward.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yes we're human, we're supposed to make mistakes,
yeah.
So, that being said, like Ihave two more questions, and
these are more life related, somy first question is is what is
the best piece of life adviceyou've ever received?
Speaker 5 (31:48):
So something that my grandpa used to always say to me
was that his cup wasoverflowing, and it's probably
my favorite saying, and I think,just to tell yourself to fill
your own cup first and lettingthat overflow into all aspects
of your life.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Wow, that one hits home.
That one definitely hits home.
Let that one sink in a littlebit.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
That was amazing.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I love that.
So my last question what wouldyou say today?
What continues to drive you andfuels you to continue going
forward in this crazy game wecall life?
Speaker 5 (32:25):
I think a couple of things.
As a kid.
I grew up with nothing.
I definitely grew up in poverty.
I didn't have the best steprunning, so wanting to be so far
from where I came from, youknow, and just wanting to better
myself every day because I knowI'm capable of so much more
than that.
And then, secondly, my clients.
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They motivate the hell out ofme, you know the way they push
themselves every day and seeingthem grow so much is huge.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
You're going to be the one, the one to break the
cycle and to change your lineage.
So that's freaking awesome.
I love that, and so thank youso much for taking the time to
come on my podcast.
Next up, we have my friend,ryan Johnson my man.
Thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Hey, what's good man.
Good seeing you again.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
So you know, I met this guy very recently, actually
in January.
We had some amazingconversations and I thought he'd
be a perfect guest to have on.
So, essentially what I'm doinghere, I have five questions.
Three of them are like healthand fitness related.
I know you've worked with a lotof people and you've built an
amazing YouTube channel.
By the way, if you haven't gosubscribe, it's down in the
(33:33):
description.
So I have three questions there, and then I have two more that
are more like life related.
So let's dive into it, man.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
So number one.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
What is the biggest misconception about fitness or
nutrition that you would like todebunk?
Speaker 4 (33:49):
I'm going to try to keep it as brief as possible,
but I feel like it takes muchtime, you know, yeah, debunking
stuff is like.
So the biggest thing that I'dlike to debunk and I feel like I
am on a mission and part of itis selfish and trying to help
who I was a few years ago, right, like, yes, it's not the answer
(34:11):
for everybody, but it's where Istruggled um the most, and that
is this idea that you'veconsistently and always got to
be chasing optimal and what isbest, and the reality is a lot
of it works.
You just got to find what worksfor you.
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I think sometimes we getobsessed with, like, what is the
best way to do, and we spend somuch time thinking about that
that we don't spend any timedoing what is good enough,
especially from a guy who was Iused to be really physically fit
, but then, as I look back on it, that's I wasn't taking into
account what my life looked like.
Like I didn't have kids, I wasin the army and the infantry.
(34:56):
They set time for us to workout in the morning and in the
afternoon, like, and when I wasin college, like I had the time
to do that, and it's like mygoal now isn't to be a it's not
to be perfect and it's not to bean elite level athlete.
That's not my goal.
Therefore, why do my protocolshave to like line up to that?
(35:16):
So this idea that it has to beperfect, I think, sometimes
trips us up.
All of it works.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
I love that, thank you.
Thank you for sharing that.
So I know you kind of mentionedthis a little bit, which is
like your own journey.
So I would love to know, like,what has been the biggest
challenge you faced on your ownjourney and how were you able to
overcome that?
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Yeah, I think one of the things that.
So I'm a chronic yo-yo dieter.
I've always been heavier.
I remember when I was in thefifth grade I popped the buttons
on my dad's pants.
So at nine or ten I rememberFifth grade yeah, a vivid memory
my dad was in the Army and Ialways wanted to follow in his
footsteps and be in the Army, soI would wear his uniforms
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around.
But in the fifth grade I couldno longer wear his uniforms.
That's wild.
I've always been a bigger kid,so I've always struggled with
yo-yo dieting.
I've always been a bigger kid,so I've always struggled with
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yo-yo dieting.
I think the biggest takeaway orthing that I've learned or that
I struggle with is reallyadopting this I want to be good
for the rest of my life.
Even now it's like am I there?
Sometimes it can bediscouraging when it's like I'm
not as far as I want to be, butreally like looking back and
saying I am better than I was alittle bit ago and that is good
enough to keep me going.
It's like if you set a goal Iwant to be under 200 pounds you
lose 60 pounds.
(36:47):
You're 205.
You can focus on that.
Man, I'm not at 200.
And it's like, man, you're down60.
Like, just ride that out for awhile.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Wow, dude, that was.
That was fantastic.
Okay.
So, that being said, I do haveone more for you here.
What is the one piece of adviceyou would give to someone that
is just getting started on theirweight loss journey?
Speaker 4 (37:11):
I'm going to give you two.
Okay that's fair.
The first one is I'm going tochallenge you to take that
long-term approach.
I'm going to challenge you tosay don't set a goal when you're
going to be there.
You have to, from the beginning, know that it's going to take a
while.
With that being said, what'sthe first actual step to take?
This is going back to the firstquestion is like debunk the
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myth that there is a right wayor there is an optimal.
It all works.
So the first step is knowingwhat you know.
Now, if you're watching thisand want to lose weight, you
already have some ideas of somethings you can do.
So find the one that you thinkyou can fit into your life now
and just do that one and nothingelse.
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That's where I'm going tochallenge you.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Don't do anything else until that, one is a habit
If you could build.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
I always say three, you said two.
If you built two healthy habitsa year but I'm talking healthy
habits that you do not go backon At the end of a decade, you
will have 20 healthy habits thatyou will live out for the rest
of your life.
If you try to pick up fivehabits, honestly, most of us try
to do 10.
I'm going to hit 10,000 steps.
I'm going to drink a gallon ofwater.
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I'm going to get eight hours ofsleep.
I'm going to hit it's too much.
Maybe you keep it for a week,maybe two, maybe, if you're good
, three, but then two monthslater you're doing none of them.
So I'm going to challenge youto go slow.
So what is the first actualstep?
That's going to vary based offof the person, but off
everything you know.
Now find the one that you thinkcan integrate, keep that up for
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three, four months.
Then do the next one.
That's the challenge.
Just do one.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Take the first step.
I love that.
One step at a time.
The fastest I see people failis when they try to change their
entire lives overnight.
They wake up in the morning oneday like I'm going to lose this
weight, I'm going to go doda-da-da-da-da-da.
It's like no, just pick one.
I love that.
That is fantastic advice, man.
So, speaking of advice, I havetwo other questions, and this
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goes back to just life advice,and I want to know like what is
some of the best life adviceyou've ever received?
Speaker 4 (39:26):
I was thinking about this.
I was walking up just becausewe're here at Coaching Con and
doing well in my business.
I have done well in a lot ofthings and I think part of that
is looking back to my dad.
He was in the Army.
I was fortunate enough to jointhe Army, go in the infantry.
I always wanted to follow inhis footsteps.
But I remember when I was inthe 11th grade he said something
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to me.
I was telling him I wasthinking about going in the 11th
grade.
He, um, he said something to me.
I was telling him I wasthinking about going in the army
and he was like, if you'rethinking about joining the army
to be average, don't even do it.
And like that has shaped,shaped my life.
Now I think that probably someof my struggles to that my all
or nothing mentality, but Ichannel that into I'm going to
be above average about beingconsistent over a long period of
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time, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
That same energy.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
Shipped into moderation.
But if you're going to beaverage, don't try.
I like that and you'redefinitely I got deep real quick
.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
No, I know.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
That's fantastic, man .
That's why I do these and I'masking pretty deep questions.
So I expect those answers interms of, uh, wanting you to
dive into it and I appreciateyou being able to go deep like
that and really share thosethose moments and uh, I think
that is extremely impactful justto hear that and I I hope our
listeners here, I hope you guys,are really sitting with these
(40:46):
things, um and so, like thatbeing said, man, like I want to
know one last thing, and that islike what, what drives and or
what fuels you to continuemoving forward on this journey
we call life?
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Yeah, no, I think it a hundred percent.
Um comes down to wanting toserve and to make an impact.
Um, the thing that drives me isabsolutely um my family and
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wanting to drive impact there.
And money like doesn't doanything for me.
Like I've made money in thepast and I was like empty on the
inside, um, because I felt likeI wasn't having an impact.
I, I think it's just a drive.
It's cliche, but sometimes thethings that are cliche are
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absolutely true.
It's like is is wanting to makea bigger impact.
I think um just understanding,with my weight loss journey, the
thing that I have learned is,if I can stay consistent for a
long time, I'm going to do greatthings.
So the thing that keeps megoing on the low days is like I
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now I know I can have one ofthose, but a low day doesn't
negate the good days ahead.
That is what is different fromnow than before is that it
really is that 80-20 rule.
So the thing that drives me isto have impact.
That's what, on a day whereit's not going well, the reason
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that I'm able to get back up thenext day is know that well, if
I get at it today, I'm going tohave that impact.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Yeah, I always like to say to clients and to other
people around me is like the lowdays are not what define you,
it's how you respond and reactto those days will make you who
you are.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
A hundred percent, like on a weight loss, like
specific thing.
I stress eat.
I think after my firstappointment I kind of picked it
up there.
I've been a stress eater for awhile.
I still stress eat.
When I started doing thisfull-time there were some
stressful days it happened.
For sure To think that I'm goingto go the rest of my life and
not stress.
Eat food brings me some levelof comfort.
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To deny that is to deny reality.
The difference between now andfive years ago, when I was at my
heaviest, is I would stress,eat and the next day I would
wake up and I would say why didyou do that?
You shouldn't have done that.
What were you thinking?
And that would lead into weeksof eating bad, whereas now it's
like a bad day if I have a 10000, which I don't do, but I may
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do a six or seven K day everyonce in a while.
I still stressy.
But the difference is if I haveone 6,000 calorie day, that is
not going to determine where Iam a year from now, unless I
wake up the next day and I'mlike why did I do that?
What's the point in even tryingtoday?
Speaker 1 (43:53):
And when you wake up and make that difference of I'm
just going to get right back towhat I was doing before and
realize I'm human.
I can make mistakes.
There's no such thing asperfect, and that's clearly why
you've seen success in your life, success in your business and,
uh, it's only getting better man.
So thank you so much, Iappreciate it dude, thank you so
much for taking the time andI'm excited to share this with
these lovely humans, me too, man.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
Thank you, love you, bro, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
And that's a wrap.
This was one of the mostamazing experiences ever here at
CoachingCon.
Not only were the speakersgreat, but, more importantly, I
got to meet some of the mostamazing humans.
On top of that, theseconversations not only inspired
me, but I hope you were able totake some sort of value away
from this today, and I hope youcan go actually take action and
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implement the things that youlearned so you can continue
furthering your journey to helpyou become the best version of
yourself.
So thank you again for takingthe time to listen.
If you haven't already, pleasego like and subscribe.
You mean the absolute world tome and I'll catch you on the
next one, peace.
Welcome back to the Taught Not Told podcast.
I am so excited to share withyou four more amazing mini
interviews from CoachingCon 2024in Orlando, florida.
I pulled aside four of the bestcoaches that I know personally,
that I got to ask three healthand fitness questions and two
(00:20):
life advice related questionsthat I think you're going to
find a ton of value in.
So please enjoy and take amoment to subscribe, because
there's going to be a lot morevideos coming, just like this.
I want to introduce to you guysmy good friend, jared Hamilton.
Honestly, guys, he's one of thecoaches I respect the most, not
(00:40):
only for his success, but alsohis communication skills, and I
definitely will be posting hispodcast in the description.
It is like one of my favoriteto listen to, but, that being
said, I'm really excited to diveinto these questions,
absolutely so, uh, I have threequestions about health and
fitness, and then I have threemore and more life, or two more,
uh, more life and uh, lifeadvice.
(01:01):
Realm right, I love this idea.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
You're so smart, dude and life advice.
Realm right.
I love this idea.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah, you're so smart dude, I stole this idea from
Jared and you guys can hear adifferent version of it on his
podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
But you, to be fair, you saw the idea and ran with it
.
So that's the thing, is you'rethe smart one.
It's like, oh, that worksreally well, I'm going to do the
same thing.
So you're the smart one.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I'm definitely going to try to put my own unique spin
on it, but uh, you already areright now.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Thank you, bro, Appreciate that.
So my first question what isthe biggest misconception about
fitness or nutrition that you'dlike to either debunk or kind of
prove otherwise?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
The first.
There's so many, but the firstthat came to my head is that
it's supposed to be slow.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Oh, I like that.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Um.
Can you elaborate?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
So I'm, I'm big on like whatever first comes to
your head, right, um, from, inmost cases, um, but uh, that's
the thing is, most bad decisionsand weight loss are made
because of a misunderstanding ofspeed.
Uh, one of the analogies I useis I'm like with pregnancy,
everyone knows like.
With pregnancy, nine months isaround the magic number, a
little more, a little less, butlike nine months, is it?
(02:07):
Um?
But if you look at, if you lookat the person, that's, let's
say, the gestation period ofpregnancy, and you have a mom
who's, let's say, three monthspregnant, she may not be showing
very much, but imagine, if shegoes, I'm not showing something.
It's like, no, just that littlefuckers come out in like nine
months, like they chest.
(02:29):
That little fucker's coming outin like nine months, like
they're 100.
But but what if, uh, what if amom was like um, I'll do
whatever it takes to get it outin three months?
Or or if a doctor said I have acool shot, or I have a pill, or
I have a powder, I have apotion that I can make the baby
come out in three months andit'll be fine?
Um, will it though?
Like you know, like.
But why, though, becauseeveryone knows, nine months is
the magic number it, it's notsupposed to take long.
So I always say weight loss orbuilding muscle or whatever it's
just like.
It's just like pregnancy, it'ssupposed to take.
(02:50):
Nothing cool happens till aboutnine or so months.
Yeah, no, of course you can seeprogress before then.
But if your mindset going intoit is, no, I'm not going to have
what I want for like at leastnine months.
I love that.
That's great, cause it wasbecause the that's great,
because the issue is oh, Ihaven't seen drastic progress.
Great, you're not supposed to100%.
It's supposed to be slow anddon't speed up something that is
meant to be slow, 100%.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I think my favorite thing I've heard on that topic
exactly is like plan for it tobe a year and watch it happen in
six months.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
We actually a question on our intake form for
new clients coming on board.
Is that would you be cooltaking 12 plus months to get to
where you want to be?
If they say no, I won't evenentertain coaching them.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
That's phenomenal.
I'm going to take that as forme as well.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Now, granted, we have options that aren't 12 months,
but if you're not prepared, thenyou're not our people.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
A hundred percent.
That's amazing, man.
Thank you for sharing so Ithink this is a really
interesting one.
You know what's been thebiggest challenge you faced on
your own health and fitnessjourney and how did you overcome
that.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
My own biggest that's such a good question my own
biggest struggle and how Iovercame that?
Because this is an interestingthing is there's levels to this,
like there's this For sure.
Now I would say what comes tomind first is when I was deep in
the trenches, not knowing whatI was doing, because I was the
guy.
I mean, it's I was, it's thesame.
It's.
The reason my content resonateswith so many people is because
(04:09):
I'm basically talking to theversion I was.
So for me, my biggestmisconception was I thought I
had to to.
Uh, I, I believed all thebullshit.
I believed like I, I went,started going into a big
meathead gym with a bunch ofdumbasses.
I didn't know what they'redoing, but they were all taking
steroids, so they obviously knewwhat they were talking about.
So I would talk to guys.
They're like no, the only wayyou can build muscles eat a
dozen eggs a day.
Yeah, I guess, I guess yougotta eat a dozen eggs a day, or
(04:29):
like expensive or like I wasconvinced like fruit, eating
fruit while driving a carsomehow stored fat, because
crazy shit, right.
But I didn't know any better.
I was uneducated.
I did for sure, no judgment, noshame.
But like on paper, I had thewrong information for sure.
So for me it was getting theright information, understanding
, like, the truth about caloriesand how they work in calorie
deficits, like when I found outyou can eat whatever you want in
(04:50):
calorie deficit and nothinginherently stores fat.
I was like it's like I got alottery ticket, bro.
I'm like I can't, I don't haveto, like suppress my cravings
and like then binge on theweekends, like, but I call it a
cheat day, and I was told thatwould your metabolism.
So I was unknowingly validatingbinge eating and having a poor
relationship with food Wow,right.
So for me it was getting theright information on how to lose
(05:11):
weight sustainably.
That goes against the grain ofwhat diet culture teaches.
And that's how I overcame it.
I started studying coaches,unfollowing you know the, the,
the Fitspo, you know Joey's andJane's and things like that and
started leaning into the rightinformation and then applying it
and then watching the resultsspeak for themselves.
And then my life was never thesame.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
That's amazing.
I love that.
I love that answer.
So my third and final question,for health and fitness related,
is you know what would be thenumber one piece of advice you'd
give to someone just startingtheir weight loss journey?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Be okay.
Be okay that it's taken threeyears to get to where you want
to be.
Like fuck the 12-month thing.
Like literally be okay, takingliterally like the next three to
five years and it'll be fine.
Like it literally will be somuch better.
The people I've worked with alot of people, probably
thousands at this point beencoaching for the last 12 ish, 13
(06:07):
years professionally okay.
Our friends with the bestcoaches in the world and the as
far as from a client and resultside of things.
The people who try to to loseweight the fastest, struggle the
longest.
And the people who quiteliterally release the attachment
to the timeline in our case, orwho literally say to themselves
(06:28):
we see, with clients, they go,I don't care how long this takes
, it can take as long as at onceI'm going to do my end of the
bargain and the results willshow when they're ready.
Yeah, all of a sudden thatperson had the craziest three to
six months of their life, right, like that's that's it.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
The ones who go fast end up going nowhere.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, the one who want to lose weight the fastest,
struggle the longest.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Absolutely man.
And then, um, wow, that was.
Those were amazing answers, bythe way.
So, um, now switching gears alittle bit, going into the realm
of your life, and so, uh, Ireally like this question when
you asked me and I wanted to askyou the same question.
So I wanted to know what's thebest piece of life advice you've
ever received?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
So I actually didn't receive this from anyone.
I heard it on a piece ofcontent from a couple people
that I look up to, so I took itas if it was given to me.
It is what if it works outbetter than you ever could have
imagined?
So, naturally, growing up veryanxious person, always worried,
always doubtful, alwaysstruggled with trusting myself,
(07:30):
trusting outcomes we're going towork out, always see, like well
, what could go wrong so I couldprepare Right.
But when I heard what if itcould work out better than you
ever could have imagined, I wentwow.
Because the cool thing is theway the brain works.
If we naturally will, what ifourselves into a hole?
Because the brain doesn't liketo be hurt?
It's about self-preservation.
But every the the universeoperates in polarities light,
(07:53):
dark inside the room, outsidethe room, up down, like there's
always a polarity.
So if we can entertain, what ifit doesn't work, we have to to
be fair, entertain what if itworks out better than we ever
could have imagined?
Because now your brain looks atthat possibility and goes, you
know, fair, like what if?
And then I have cases in mylife where it did happen better
(08:14):
than I ever imagined and likethese things happen out in left
field that they should not havehappened, but it's like that was
supposed to have happened.
So that's it.
When I get into a state whereI'm cause we're all human,
myself included like strugglewith worry, doubt and anxiety is
go well, what if it could?
What if it works out betterthan I could imagine?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
So that is the exact reason I want to come on here
because this man communicates sofreaking well.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
A lot of therapy, my man.
I really hope you guys take amoment to sit with that answer.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
That was amazing man.
So I think my last one I wantto leave here with is what fuels
you, what drives you forward,what makes you want to keep
going on this journey of lifethat you are on?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
It's interesting.
Part of me has no idea.
Literally part of me goes Idon't know, has no idea.
They're literally part of megoes I don't know.
Um, I've lived.
I was taught early on in myentrepreneurial journey, early
20s, as, uh, my mentor and likethe whole thing was grow or die.
Yeah, so, like if I, like wewere doing one or the other
right, we're either growing ordying.
It's my entire sleeve is aboutum, but part of me also lives in
(09:22):
the state of like, like, like,what's my potential?
You know, um, it's kind of airyfairy as that sounds, um, but I
, I would just hate to get tothe end of my life and it's like
yo, you could have done thatLike that's who that was the
people you could help, that'sthe impact you could have
created, that's the experiencesyou could have had.
(09:45):
That's the family you, of my ownself, we have to be careful of
that.
So that's a dichotomy.
I'm still.
I don't think we get to a placewhere we've mastered that.
It's on a sliding scale.
One of the weird things I doand I don't talk about this very
often, but I feel like it'srelevant is I actually.
Your audience is either goingto go wow, or they're going to
go you're a you're fucking weird.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Um, I take advice from my 80 year old self.
Solomon, solomon, what are youtalking about?
Uh, like in the Bible?
No, uh, no, uh.
Alex Ramos, he talks about thisand he calls him Solomon or I
forget why, but he talks aboutlike he creates a Google doc and
he has a conversation withhimself as like Solomon.
He calls Solomon.
His 80 year old self talks tohim on a Google doc every day
and I learned that from the,from his podcast, from, uh, Alex
(10:33):
, from Ozzy's podcast, but, uh,I've actually thought about
doing that myself.
So, honestly, I don't, I don'tthink it's weird.
They all might be like what thehell is okay, but can you like
what the hell that's okay?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
that's okay, but can you, can you kind of explain a
little bit like how and why youdo that?
So, um, I'm pretty sure I Iknow I haven't like heard his
talk on it, but I I've heard alittle bits of stuff.
I take a little bit differentapproach, like um, because I
love these deep questions, likelike good, deep conversations,
like one of my favorite things.
And, um, so when I back in theday, when I was reading a big, a
big napoleon hill, okay, andNapoleon Hill, uh, I've read a
(11:05):
lot of his work and one of thethings that he did was he talked
about like he's Napoleon Hill,interviewed 500 of the world's
most successful people, wrotethe book thing grow rich, right?
Yeah, well, in his next bookafter he died, that got
published.
They waited till he died topublish it.
It's called Outwitting theDevil, where it's basically not
so great interviews and what helearned from that.
It's fucking intense.
(11:25):
But one of the things NapoleonHill did was he basically went
into the boardroom of his mindand had interviews to seek
counsel from these amazinghumans.
What would Abe Lincoln say aboutthis?
What would Thomas Edison sayabout this?
What would Henry Ford say aboutthis?
Modern day would be like.
What would Steve Jobs say aboutthis?
What advice would Tony robbinsgive me?
(11:47):
Like, whatever it may be, yeah,um, but the question is I think
I may have heard this from alexalex's who, like your 80 year
old old self, 90 year old self,truly has your best interest at
heart.
Um, there's a level ofunderstanding about you no one
else can have.
Like, yeah, like I could, Iwould love to have ed my letter.
Tony robbins, tell me, like,strategize with me.
(12:07):
There's still a level that theycan't understand about me.
But no one's going to have theself-awareness or understanding
at the right levels other thanyou.
That's why self-awareness is sokey.
So who would have all that ismy 80 or 90 or 100 year old self
.
So I will literally get.
This is so weird.
I will literally get into likea meditative state, especially
when I'm struggling withsomething, and I like I was I
(12:27):
did this somewhat recently,because it's not an all the time
thing I was literally at mylike on our deck on my fire pit
and I was literally likemeditating, like eyes closed,
whatever, and I literallyvisualized myself across the
fire pit, from me, this wrinkly80 year old motherfucker, and I
was wrinkly 80 year oldmotherfucker and I was just
quiet.
I was just like what would it?
Because obviously he knows whatI'd be struggling with, or like
(12:48):
I would be like in my mind,like having a conversation, um,
because it's kind of it's almostlike reverse inner child work,
like you know, like it's provenin psychology.
We teach this with our clients.
I do it, um, you can go backand have a conversation with
your inner child and actuallyheals and all these things.
Why can't I do that, that theother way Again, that law of
polarity.
So if I can go back in time andhave a conversation with my 13
(13:09):
year old self in my head andit's proven to heal.
Why can't I go to the 80 yearold self and seek counsel?
Whether this is, some maybelieve, like there's that
version of myself that lives ina universe somewhere that I'm
tapping into.
I don't.
I don't know.
Or if it's this sense ofknowing deep down Because we all
use that term it's like, oh,I'm worried, but I know deep
(13:30):
down it's going to be okay.
Well, we can access that deepdown.
This is something I learnedfrom Kyle Cease.
There's a level of a deep downwisdom we all have, and so for
me it is the 80-year-old self,the 100-year-old self.
So for me it's the state that Iget into and I feel like I can
tap into it.
It's fucking weird, but I'mtelling you I'll have notes.
It will literally be as if thewords on those patients, they
(13:53):
were not mine.
Wow, I literally have the note.
Actually, I have a it's calleda remarkable, it's like a Kindle
notebook, right a like a it'scalled a remarkable, it's like a
kindle notebook, right and Ihave like all of it, and so this
way, when I'm struggling, I goback to it in whatever 80 year
old jerry, it's literally likedude, it's so trippy, like I got
into that state and I go okay,wrote that down.
I go back, you have like twopages of notes and I'm like
(14:13):
those are not my words.
Yeah, I don't know what we callgod, the universe, somewhere,
my 80 year old self, I don'tknow, but it's what I needed to
hear in that moment.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
So that was again again, I'm telling you guys,
make sure you listen to hispodcast.
And uh, jared, I would love toask you if, in the near future,
there's two topics that I knowthat you are, uh, someone I
respect the most when they'retalking about these two things,
which is the inner work that youjust mentioned, as well as
self-sabotage, and I think thoseare two things that I would
(14:44):
love to go deep, yeah, with you,uh, on a podcast in the near
future.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
So okay, just tell me what.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Absolutely.
Let's do it, bro.
I appreciate you, jared.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Thank you again for coming on love you, man,
absolutely this is andrewgarretson, garretson, garretson.
This is andrew garretson.
Uh, gerritsen Gerritsen,gerritsen, gerritsen.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
This is Andrew Gerritsen.
That's kind of racist, but no,I love it.
Yeah, Andrew Gerritsen.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
So my man here is a coach that you should definitely
know, you should definitelyfollow, probably one of the most
brilliant minds I've everspoken to and had the
opportunity to have aconversation with.
And so, my man, questions foryou.
Okay, let's do it.
Three of them are health andfitness related, okay, uh, which
I think you're a perfect fit toanswer, uh.
And then the ones I thinkyou're a little less fit to
(15:24):
answer are the life advice onesbut I'm going to ask you anyways
, all right, so that being said,man, you know my question.
My first question is what is thebiggest misconception about
fitness and nutrition that you'dlike to debunk?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
biggest misconception about fitness nutrition that
you'd like to debunk, thebiggest misconception around
health and fitness?
Yeah, you know it's.
It's funny because a lot ofthings jump in my head and I
think that's really a greatsymptom of what we're seeing in
the industry right now, which ispeople are really trying to
stand out fitness influencers,people that may have experienced
themselves with their ownhealth and fitness journey and
people that ultimately have alot of anecdotal understanding
(16:04):
of what works for them.
But I think a lot of peoplereally forget that what works
for them may not work foreveryone else, and I think that,
more than anything, the mostimportant thing is to keep it as
simple as you can, maintain theability to execute, because if
you can't do the plan,regardless of how great of a
scientifically based plan it isor how much it worked for
someone else, consistency andexecution is the number one
(16:27):
definitive factor of what allowspeople to really be successful
with pursuing their goals.
That's a phenomenal answer.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Thank you bro.
So my next question would be isyou know, as you know, as
coaches most of us have, been onour own journeys and we've all
faced some sort of challenge.
So what has been the biggestchallenge you faced on your own
health and fitness journey andhow did you overcome?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
that you know it's.
That's a funny one, I think.
So I assume most of theselisteners probably aren't going
to know who I am, and so just alittle bit of backstory.
I was born in Korea, moved toGeorgia and the US when I was
probably about eight years old,and so fitting in was always a
thing to obviously be theforeign kid in the room and
(17:11):
being a little bit different,being in the South Right, and I
think that I wouldn't say racism, but there are definitely some
diversity related tendenciesthat people have, definitely
some diversity relatedtendencies that people have.
You kind of recall what we'retalking about in the beginning.
It's funny that it's kind ofcoming full circle now, all
joking aside, but you know, Ithink one of the biggest
challenges that I had toovercome was feeling like I was
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good enough to want to beincluded, and what I mean by
that is originally because I wasdifferent.
I thought that I wanted to buckthe system and not have to try
to belong, and I thought if Iwas better than everyone else,
everyone would want to try tobelong with me, and it really
created this paradigm thatevolved as I've matured and
evolved and I often find that Ihave a lot of elitist tendencies
(17:57):
that tend to alienate people asI've grown, and that really
makes it a strain on developingmeaningful relationships.
So, while being really good atwhat I do in the education space
with my special operationsbackground, there's a lot of
interpersonal relationships thatI've sacrificed because I've
tried to be better than so thatI wouldn't have to belong, and
(18:20):
so I think the thing that Ireally learned most, as it
relates to my own personaljourney, comes in the form of
you don't have to knoweverything, and the more you
know, you actually lose a lot ofyour humanity and you lose the
ability to relate to otherpeople.
Because it becomes thatinformation becomes a part of
how you operate in yourday-to-day, which you start to
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resent people.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
That don't understand that and aren't willing to
operate at the same level.
Wow.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
That was a deep man.
Thank you for sharing that.
I really appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
So I know, like I mentioned earlier, it's like you
.
Uh, you have a brilliant mindand I know you've worked with a
lot of people coaches andclients and so I want to know
what would be the number onepiece of advice you'd give to
someone getting started on theirweight loss journey the number
one advice that I would give tosomeone starting their weight
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loss journey would be you know,it's less tactical as I get
older in it, and a lot of thisstuff is definitely grounded in
community.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
You're only a plant, can only grow, even in the best
sunlight, and it has the mostwater and the most nutrients, to
the degree that its soil allows.
And what I mean by that is yourenvironment will be the biggest
determining factor for yoursustainment of a new behavior.
For instance, if you take intoaccount, let's say, that you
know there's a wife and shedoesn't feel great about how she
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looks, her husband may not haveany awareness around that and
she may tell him hey, babe, I'mtrying to lose some weight, you
know I'm trying to eat healthier.
And let's say that in a rareinstance the guy actually goes
grocery shopping.
I shouldn't laugh at that, maybein the rare instance the guy
goes grocery shopping, you knowum, and he's buying junk food
and he's doing all these thingsthat are adding these
(20:08):
temptations that she may fallprey to.
Uh, because of a lot of groovedin behaviors.
And so the best way to changebehaviors that have been set in
stone for a very long time tochange the environment upon
which a lot of those things areenacted, which is why joining a
gym and finding people that youcan hold yourself accountable
with, not for, because we findthat in psychology research,
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people will do a lot of thingsfor other people that they won't
do for themselves.
And so, when we think aboutputting skin in the game, it
actually looks more like havinga selfless attachment to someone
else and like, hey, I'm goingto come to the gym because I
know that if you don't come, Iwon't come.
And so cultivating thatenvironment is one of the
biggest, strongest things thatpeople can do when they're first
starting out, even more so thanknowing what to do, because in
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community you learn faster, youshare more, you're going to
celebrate each other's wins,you're going to feel better.
You're going to celebrate eachother's wins, you're going to
feel better, you're going tofeel seen, which is actually a
huge missing in these days, andthat's why social media is so
prevalent, that's why people areon there and that's why, when
you look at what people areproducing, a lot of people
actually really struggle to beseen and feeling vulnerable, and
so, having people around youthat, hey, I get what you're
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going through.
We're going through the samething that shared suffering.
That's something that I tookfrom the military, which is why,
when you have a lot of peoplethat aren't used to thinking in
that way and you put them into ashared living space for three
months, um, you all develop alot of same values, the same
behaviorisms and a lot of sameyou know ways of thinking, and I
think that that's probably thebiggest shaping factor now if
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you go into an environment whereno one knows what the fuck
they're doing that's.
that's obviously gonna be aproblem, so there should be some
kind of learning in there.
But I think that the tacticalimplementation that might be
finding a small group that youcan train with, that's maybe led
by a personal trainer or anexpert in that, that can really
shape and make sure that you doit well, because mistakes are
costly.
You might find that if you bendover and you do a deadlifting
(21:59):
correctly, you might find thatif you bend over and you do a
deadlifting correctly, your backgoes out.
Now you think bending over is adangerous thing, when in
reality it might've been thatyou tried it but you didn't do
it well.
And so the supervision elementinside of a community setting
would be the second thing, and Iwould say go find an expert
that you trust, that you like,um, and that understands your
certain circumstances andsituations, so that way you can
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know that your community isgoing to be supported by someone
that's knows and is going toreduce your cost of error.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Absolutely.
I think my the two biggestthings right there that really
hit home with me is thatcommunity and environment, and I
think um those two alone.
If you can find the rightcommunity and create and and
build the right environment, man, you're going to be unstoppable
100%.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Think about football teams.
It's not just a running backright.
That would be crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I don't care how good your quarterback is, but if
your whole team doesn't worktogether in unison, we've
probably seen some of thegreatest teams not be one player
.
It's the entire unit.
It's the family that producesthe best outcomes outcomes in
the super bowls and the ringsand all the praise.
So I love that.
That was fucking beautiful man.
So we're gonna switch gears alittle bit.
Okay, we're gonna talk a littlebit about life advice and I
(23:09):
want to know what is the bestlife advice you've ever been
given, or?
Speaker 3 (23:14):
that you've received.
You know it's funny, I umthere's a guy when you ask me
that I don't know if this is thebest advice that's ever been
given, but it's the first onejumps to mind.
So, just like thinking throughit, yeah, I love that.
Um, I was sitting in a saunaand it was a co-ed sauna, so it
was a family, it was a as ahusband and wife, um, and it was
while I was working at a in a,a big sitting there.
(23:38):
Um, I walk in and the guy knewme.
He knew me as one of thetrainers and he's trying to make
small talk.
He makes a joke, right, and asI see that I naturally have a
very strong personality, uh, andI kind of three up him and I'm
like, oh okay, you know just thetip, or I kind of say something
like that and his wife kind oftitters and like he's like maybe
(23:58):
you should come in a little bitsofter.
And so one of the reasons whythat sticks out to me isn't
because I could have made thatso hard joke.
Like, obviously that's the easything on the table, but when I
think about coming in softer andtaking the time to get to know
the people in your environment.
I think it it really allows youthe opportunity to again.
Mistakes are costly and so,until you can calibrate across
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the room and read the room andknow who you're sitting across
from, get a, get a sharedunderstanding, which comes
through small talk, which comesthrough finding commonalities
and looking and exploring someof those things before you know,
maybe opening your mouth andsharing a polarizing opinion or
potentially saying somethingmight be very off putting.
That's one of the things that Itook, and this was in like 2013
(24:42):
, 2014.
Like that's kind of stuck withme 10 years later.
You know, as I'm in my 30s now,of just think twice before you
speak when the stakes are higherand you know when it matters.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Amazing man.
Thank you for sharing thatstory.
So my last question is you knowwhat ultimately fuels and
drives you to continue movingforward in this game we call
life?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Being elite.
You know, I wasn't meant to beaverage, and I think that part
of that could be some childhoodtrauma, right, and I think that
people's anxieties will do moreto shape their personalities
than anything else.
What you fear most is the thingyou will do the most to try to
overcome, until you becomeself-aware.
And so, when I think about thethings that I fear most is, um,
(25:33):
you know, the the idea that mylegacy is meaningless, that the
things I leave behind, whetherit's my family, whether it's the
curriculums that I get to, thatI get to contribute to, that I
get to cultivate in therelationships.
I think a lot of that is whatkeeps me going forward.
And how do I leave everyone alittle bit better than how I
came across them, whether it'sthey feel more connected, they
(25:53):
feel more educated, they have abetter tactical implementation,
and so, if that's the bigpicture, the way that I, that I
keep myself focused on that dayto day, is, I actually keep a
little you don't have mypermanent marker over there, but
I have a little water bottlethat I put tally marks on, and
so every time I share something,it's customary for me to ask um
(26:14):
, if I'm thinking about it tosay what did you take away from
that?
And if they share one, two,three, 50 things, then I get to
put those as tally marks on mybottle.
And so every year I have a goalof having a hundred thousand uh,
what I call light bulb moments,or basically epiphanies in
people.
That uh is a very cleartransactional way for me to do
(26:35):
this thing.
That people like, wow, you'reso, you know, you're so giving,
you're so sharing with yourinformation.
Like it's kind of selfish in alot of ways, and I think that
it's okay to be selfish as longas it serves a common good.
And you want to think about howcan you be constructively
selfish to forward theconversation for a community to,
to really champion an industryor to challenge the status quo
(26:57):
in a way that's not just selfserving, but also how can we be
community serving in that way?
But if you don't take care ofyourself and you don't make it
something that's very personalto you, aka selfish, you're
going to find that it's reallychallenging to stay focused and
that's where people tend to getblown off course very frequently
, because it's not somethingthat's really tied to their
(27:18):
depth of core and a scoreboard,so to speak.
So my scoreboard and my fearand anxieties are probably the
things that keep me going.
If I put a, put a bow on all ofit, wow.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Andrew, that was phenomenal man.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Thank you so much.
Yeah, of course, absolutelyThanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Up next we have my friend Jordan, who I just met
yesterday and, funny enough, shejust so happens to work at the
same gym in a different city, inLong Beach, and it just so
happens that all the way acrossthe entire nation we came in
contact and ultimately, I sawthat she was a great coach and I
wanted to ask her thesequestions.
So, that being said, I want toknow what is the biggest
(27:59):
misconception about fitness ornutrition that you would like to
debunk or talk a little bitabout.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
I think, overall, what I see within my clients is
just not eating enough.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Especially in female clients.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Yes, you know they'll come to me and say that they're
eating great.
It's always what they like tosay.
I eat really good, you know.
Super clean, super clean.
Yeah, I have like a salad and,like you know, and super clean,
super clean.
Yeah, I have like a salad and,like you know, maybe a smoothie
here and there, um, and that'sit, and overall they're eating
like maybe one actual meal perday.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
A hundred percent.
I agree with that.
I see that way too often, sowhat should they actually do
instead?
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Uh, so I like to do with my clients is start with
macro counting.
Okay, um, if that is a positionthat they're ready to be in,
depending on mental health.
That's something I like tocheck in with first.
Numbers can be superoverwhelming 100%.
But I think starting with yourmacros is a great place because
it gives you so much freedomwith your food.
You don't feel stuck within ameal plan, or like you have to
(28:55):
eat chicken and rice, which iswhat I think?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Same shit every day.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Yeah, I think that's what they think I'm going to
have them do.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Right, so, um, I start with macro.
I love that.
I love that.
Thank you for sharing.
So my next question would be isyou know, this one's a little
bit deeper.
So what has been the biggestchallenge that you faced on your
own personal health and fitnessjourney, and how were you able
to overcome that?
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Um so, reason that I became a trainer was to empower
other women, and I think, eventhrough this event, you know, uh
, teaching self-love andlearning how to hype yourself up
to get you from A to B.
So that is what I like to pushinto my clients and something
(29:40):
that I've had to overcome, whereI never felt like I was enough.
Whether it was in the gym oroutside the gym, I never felt
like I looked good enough.
You know, body dysmorphia isreal.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I still have that yeah it's tough, it's tough.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
So that is something that was my biggest obstacle, so
to speak.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah, and you overcame that.
I believe we talked about thisa little bit, and do you feel
like getting strong, becominghealthy, was part of that
evolution, of overcoming thatchallenge that you face?
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Yeah, I think, maturing in the gym for one, and
then who you surround with too.
You know like the trainers thatI work with are incredible, and
you know seeing so many strongwomen in the industry that also
look different than they did1020 years ago.
You know like we see differentshapes and sizes today 100%
(30:35):
beautiful.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah, transformations are so powerful in so many ways
, mentally and physically.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I love that.
I love that answer.
So that kind of goes into mylast nutrition and fitness
question, which is like what isthe number one piece of advice
you'd give someone that's juststarting their weight loss
journey?
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Don't make it too complicated.
It's not that complicated.
You don't need every supplementunder the sun.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
You don't need any at all.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Yeah, you don't need to worry about brown rice versus
white rice.
You know, keep things simple.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
That debate.
That's hilarious.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, simple is easier and I feel like to
piggyback off.
I feel like so often people arelike I'm going to throw the
whole kitchen sink at it.
I'm going to try to changeevery aspect of life.
It's like just pick one thingand make it simple and start
there.
You know.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
So I completely agree .
Yeah, that's another thing too,if I can add you know baby
steps, and if you make a mistake, don't say I fucked up, so it's
all fucked up, you know, andthen fall backward.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yes we're human, we're supposed to make mistakes,
yeah.
So, that being said, like Ihave two more questions, and
these are more life related, somy first question is is what is
the best piece of life adviceyou've ever received?
Speaker 5 (31:48):
So something that my grandpa used to always say to me
was that his cup wasoverflowing, and it's probably
my favorite saying, and I think,just to tell yourself to fill
your own cup first and lettingthat overflow into all aspects
of your life.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Wow, that one hits home.
That one definitely hits home.
Let that one sink in a littlebit.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
That was amazing.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I love that.
So my last question what wouldyou say today?
What continues to drive you andfuels you to continue going
forward in this crazy game wecall life?
Speaker 5 (32:25):
I think a couple of things.
As a kid.
I grew up with nothing.
I definitely grew up in poverty.
I didn't have the best steprunning, so wanting to be so far
from where I came from, youknow, and just wanting to better
myself every day because I knowI'm capable of so much more
than that.
And then, secondly, my clients.
(32:47):
They motivate the hell out ofme, you know the way they push
themselves every day and seeingthem grow so much is huge.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
You're going to be the one, the one to break the
cycle and to change your lineage.
So that's freaking awesome.
I love that, and so thank youso much for taking the time to
come on my podcast.
Next up, we have my friend,ryan Johnson my man.
Thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Hey, what's good man.
Good seeing you again.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
So you know, I met this guy very recently, actually
in January.
We had some amazingconversations and I thought he'd
be a perfect guest to have on.
So, essentially what I'm doinghere, I have five questions.
Three of them are like healthand fitness related.
I know you've worked with a lotof people and you've built an
amazing YouTube channel.
By the way, if you haven't gosubscribe, it's down in the
(33:33):
description.
So I have three questions there, and then I have two more that
are more like life related.
So let's dive into it, man.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
So number one.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
What is the biggest misconception about fitness or
nutrition that you would like todebunk?
Speaker 4 (33:49):
I'm going to try to keep it as brief as possible,
but I feel like it takes muchtime, you know, yeah, debunking
stuff is like.
So the biggest thing that I'dlike to debunk and I feel like I
am on a mission and part of itis selfish and trying to help
who I was a few years ago, right, like, yes, it's not the answer
(34:11):
for everybody, but it's where Istruggled um the most, and that
is this idea that you'veconsistently and always got to
be chasing optimal and what isbest, and the reality is a lot
of it works.
You just got to find what worksfor you.
(34:32):
I think sometimes we getobsessed with, like, what is the
best way to do, and we spend somuch time thinking about that
that we don't spend any timedoing what is good enough,
especially from a guy who was Iused to be really physically fit
, but then, as I look back on it, that's I wasn't taking into
account what my life looked like.
Like I didn't have kids, I wasin the army and the infantry.
(34:56):
They set time for us to workout in the morning and in the
afternoon, like, and when I wasin college, like I had the time
to do that, and it's like mygoal now isn't to be a it's not
to be perfect and it's not to bean elite level athlete.
That's not my goal.
Therefore, why do my protocolshave to like line up to that?
(35:16):
So this idea that it has to beperfect, I think, sometimes
trips us up.
All of it works.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
I love that, thank you.
Thank you for sharing that.
So I know you kind of mentionedthis a little bit, which is
like your own journey.
So I would love to know, like,what has been the biggest
challenge you faced on your ownjourney and how were you able to
overcome that?
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Yeah, I think one of the things that.
So I'm a chronic yo-yo dieter.
I've always been heavier.
I remember when I was in thefifth grade I popped the buttons
on my dad's pants.
So at nine or ten I rememberFifth grade yeah, a vivid memory
my dad was in the Army and Ialways wanted to follow in his
footsteps and be in the Army, soI would wear his uniforms
(36:00):
around.
But in the fifth grade I couldno longer wear his uniforms.
That's wild.
I've always been a bigger kid,so I've always struggled with
yo-yo dieting.
I've always been a bigger kid,so I've always struggled with
(36:26):
yo-yo dieting.
I think the biggest takeaway orthing that I've learned or that
I struggle with is reallyadopting this I want to be good
for the rest of my life.
Even now it's like am I there?
Sometimes it can bediscouraging when it's like I'm
not as far as I want to be, butreally like looking back and
saying I am better than I was alittle bit ago and that is good
enough to keep me going.
It's like if you set a goal Iwant to be under 200 pounds you
lose 60 pounds.
(36:47):
You're 205.
You can focus on that.
Man, I'm not at 200.
And it's like, man, you're down60.
Like, just ride that out for awhile.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Wow, dude, that was.
That was fantastic.
Okay.
So, that being said, I do haveone more for you here.
What is the one piece of adviceyou would give to someone that
is just getting started on theirweight loss journey?
Speaker 4 (37:11):
I'm going to give you two.
Okay that's fair.
The first one is I'm going tochallenge you to take that
long-term approach.
I'm going to challenge you tosay don't set a goal when you're
going to be there.
You have to, from the beginning, know that it's going to take a
while.
With that being said, what'sthe first actual step to take?
This is going back to the firstquestion is like debunk the
(37:35):
myth that there is a right wayor there is an optimal.
It all works.
So the first step is knowingwhat you know.
Now, if you're watching thisand want to lose weight, you
already have some ideas of somethings you can do.
So find the one that you thinkyou can fit into your life now
and just do that one and nothingelse.
(37:57):
That's where I'm going tochallenge you.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Don't do anything else until that, one is a habit
If you could build.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
I always say three, you said two.
If you built two healthy habitsa year but I'm talking healthy
habits that you do not go backon At the end of a decade, you
will have 20 healthy habits thatyou will live out for the rest
of your life.
If you try to pick up fivehabits, honestly, most of us try
to do 10.
I'm going to hit 10,000 steps.
I'm going to drink a gallon ofwater.
(38:25):
I'm going to get eight hours ofsleep.
I'm going to hit it's too much.
Maybe you keep it for a week,maybe two, maybe, if you're good
, three, but then two monthslater you're doing none of them.
So I'm going to challenge youto go slow.
So what is the first actualstep?
That's going to vary based offof the person, but off
everything you know.
Now find the one that you thinkcan integrate, keep that up for
(38:45):
three, four months.
Then do the next one.
That's the challenge.
Just do one.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Take the first step.
I love that.
One step at a time.
The fastest I see people failis when they try to change their
entire lives overnight.
They wake up in the morning oneday like I'm going to lose this
weight, I'm going to go doda-da-da-da-da-da.
It's like no, just pick one.
I love that.
That is fantastic advice, man.
So, speaking of advice, I havetwo other questions, and this
(39:14):
goes back to just life advice,and I want to know like what is
some of the best life adviceyou've ever received?
Speaker 4 (39:26):
I was thinking about this.
I was walking up just becausewe're here at Coaching Con and
doing well in my business.
I have done well in a lot ofthings and I think part of that
is looking back to my dad.
He was in the Army.
I was fortunate enough to jointhe Army, go in the infantry.
I always wanted to follow inhis footsteps.
But I remember when I was inthe 11th grade he said something
(39:49):
to me.
I was telling him I wasthinking about going in the 11th
grade.
He, um, he said something to me.
I was telling him I wasthinking about going in the army
and he was like, if you'rethinking about joining the army
to be average, don't even do it.
And like that has shaped,shaped my life.
Now I think that probably someof my struggles to that my all
or nothing mentality, but Ichannel that into I'm going to
be above average about beingconsistent over a long period of
(40:13):
time, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
That same energy.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
Shipped into moderation.
But if you're going to beaverage, don't try.
I like that and you'redefinitely I got deep real quick
.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
No, I know.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
That's fantastic, man .
That's why I do these and I'masking pretty deep questions.
So I expect those answers interms of, uh, wanting you to
dive into it and I appreciateyou being able to go deep like
that and really share thosethose moments and uh, I think
that is extremely impactful justto hear that and I I hope our
listeners here, I hope you guys,are really sitting with these
(40:46):
things, um and so, like thatbeing said, man, like I want to
know one last thing, and that islike what, what drives and or
what fuels you to continuemoving forward on this journey
we call life?
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Yeah, no, I think it a hundred percent.
Um comes down to wanting toserve and to make an impact.
Um, the thing that drives me isabsolutely um my family and
(41:21):
wanting to drive impact there.
And money like doesn't doanything for me.
Like I've made money in thepast and I was like empty on the
inside, um, because I felt likeI wasn't having an impact.
I, I think it's just a drive.
It's cliche, but sometimes thethings that are cliche are
(41:43):
absolutely true.
It's like is is wanting to makea bigger impact.
I think um just understanding,with my weight loss journey, the
thing that I have learned is,if I can stay consistent for a
long time, I'm going to do greatthings.
So the thing that keeps megoing on the low days is like I
(42:07):
now I know I can have one ofthose, but a low day doesn't
negate the good days ahead.
That is what is different fromnow than before is that it
really is that 80-20 rule.
So the thing that drives me isto have impact.
That's what, on a day whereit's not going well, the reason
(42:28):
that I'm able to get back up thenext day is know that well, if
I get at it today, I'm going tohave that impact.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Yeah, I always like to say to clients and to other
people around me is like the lowdays are not what define you,
it's how you respond and reactto those days will make you who
you are.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
A hundred percent, like on a weight loss, like
specific thing.
I stress eat.
I think after my firstappointment I kind of picked it
up there.
I've been a stress eater for awhile.
I still stress eat.
When I started doing thisfull-time there were some
stressful days it happened.
For sure To think that I'm goingto go the rest of my life and
not stress.
Eat food brings me some levelof comfort.
(43:07):
To deny that is to deny reality.
The difference between now andfive years ago, when I was at my
heaviest, is I would stress,eat and the next day I would
wake up and I would say why didyou do that?
You shouldn't have done that.
What were you thinking?
And that would lead into weeksof eating bad, whereas now it's
like a bad day if I have a 10000, which I don't do, but I may
(43:30):
do a six or seven K day everyonce in a while.
I still stressy.
But the difference is if I haveone 6,000 calorie day, that is
not going to determine where Iam a year from now, unless I
wake up the next day and I'mlike why did I do that?
What's the point in even tryingtoday?
Speaker 1 (43:53):
And when you wake up and make that difference of I'm
just going to get right back towhat I was doing before and
realize I'm human.
I can make mistakes.
There's no such thing asperfect, and that's clearly why
you've seen success in your life, success in your business and,
uh, it's only getting better man.
So thank you so much, Iappreciate it dude, thank you so
much for taking the time andI'm excited to share this with
these lovely humans, me too, man.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
Thank you, love you, bro, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
And that's a wrap.
This was one of the mostamazing experiences ever here at
CoachingCon.
Not only were the speakersgreat, but, more importantly, I
got to meet some of the mostamazing humans.
On top of that, theseconversations not only inspired
me, but I hope you were able totake some sort of value away
from this today, and I hope youcan go actually take action and
(44:38):
implement the things that youlearned so you can continue
furthering your journey to helpyou become the best version of
yourself.
So thank you again for takingthe time to listen.
If you haven't already, pleasego like and subscribe.
You mean the absolute world tome and I'll catch you on the
next one, peace.
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