EP#30: Jared Hamilton: Dieting From The Inside Out

In this interview, Jared and I go DEEP into the lesser known aspects of health and fitness that are likely the reason you can’t achieve sustainable results…

Unlike most coaches who strictly focus on all the external behaviors and actions necessary to see progress…

Jared is extremely unique in how he coaches, from the INSIDE OUT.

So in this episode we cover things like relationships with food, avoiding self-sabotage, reprogramming your subconscious mind, and inner child work.

What amazes me the most is how Jared is able to communicate these complex topics in such a simple way…

And I know FOR A FACT, you will receive a ton of value from this exclusive episode so find a quiet place, take notes, and enjoy🙏🏼

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You can find Jared on Instagram here:
https://www.instagram.com/realjaredhamilton

You can find Jared’s podcast here:
https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dietingfromtheinsideout

In This Video We Cover:
00:00 - Intro: Who is Jared Hamilton?
06:09 - What is “Dieting From The Inside Out”
11:00 - How to heal your relationship with food
15:07 - Reprogramming your subconscious mind
22:10 - Inner child work for sustainable change
32:22 - How to avoid self-sabotage 
42:54 - What’s next for Jared
48:17 - The one skill or habit YOU need…
50:14 - Where to find Jared

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Everyone knows what to do.
Everyone knows they should eatbetter.
They should not eat like anasshole.
They should move their bodymore.
They should eat like.
Everyone knows what to do.
But the problem is everythingbelow the surface.
It's literally like buying ahouse and the walls crack and
they keep cracking.
So you just keep painting overthem and plastering them, but
the walls keep cracking.
It's the foundation that's theproblem, and it is always go
inward.
Your outside world is just areflection of your inner state.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
What is a healthy approach to overcoming or
preventing that self-sabotagefrom happening over and over and
over?

Speaker 1 (00:30):
I really think sabotage is a two-part thing.
It's identity and patterns.
If you sabotage a lot, we needto look at your identity,
because I could give you all thestrategies ever, but if you
don't change the foundation ofwho you are and the beliefs you
have about yourself, it doesn'tmatter what strategies and
tactics I show you.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
If you could only teach your clients one skill or
habit, that would have thesingle greatest impact on their
health and quality of life, whatwould it be?
Welcome back to the Todd NotTold podcast.
I'm here with my great friend,jared Hamilton, and I came all
the way out to Indiana.
Well, for one, for a, but alsoalso to see my friend Jared.

(01:06):
And let me tell you, I've beenlooking forward to interviewing
this guy for quite some time Now.
I've been listening to hispodcast, dieting from the inside
out, and it's actually one ofmy favorites when it comes to
the mental side of things and,honestly, his coaching has
inspired me.
And, uh, not only that, butJared's worked with literally, I

(01:26):
believe, thousands of people.
He's been doing this a wholelot longer than me and, honestly
, I've always wanted to sit down, pick his brain and to share
with you guys some of theinsight and some of the crazy
stuff going on inside of hishead.
So, before we dive in, I wantto know, I want him to share
with you a little bit abouthimself, a little bit about his

(01:47):
story.
He's got a very unique storyfrom, like how dieting came into
his life at a very young age.
So, jared, I would love to hearjust a little like snippet,
maybe like a little spark notesversion of like your story and
what got you into coaching.
Yeah, dude.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Appreciate you having me on dude.
This is a dope studio you havehere.
This is this is a dope studioyou have.
Awesome man.
I think the plant was actuallythe sickest thing.
That's right, the plant is thegangster anyway.
Um, but no.
So for me, man, coaching it was,it all happened on accident.
Every move in my career was, uh, it was not necessarily planned
and it was very much anaccident.
Um, kind of like my birth.
Um, but let's go.

(02:25):
Um.
But so what happened was I grewup, uh, the the Cliff notes
version version is I grew upstruggling with all this stuff
myself.
I was a fat kid, always umstruggle with with weight loss,
body image, all that stuff.
Um got given a weight, a weightwatchers book when I was about
11.
So I'm like 11 year olds, 11,12, trying to count points and

(02:50):
cause that's what my family didand I'm just like I don't know
and all that stuff.
So that's where that shitstarted for me.
And then um, and then basicallyum did the whole trendy dieting
thing for however long, and um,cause I didn't know what I was
doing.
I was just like carb store fatyou shouldn't eat food or eat
fruit while you're driving andlike that was like an actual
thing.
I read I'm like that was likean actual thing.
I read I'm like you shouldn'teat apples while you drive
because it stores fat.
So a lot of that nonsense andwhatnot.
And then when I was about 15,found the gym, found a bunch of

(03:10):
meatheads, fell in love withlifting, but then, because it
was a bunch of meatheads, it wasmore diet culture, dogma.
It was a lot of the same kindof nonsense.
But I got in the gym, startedgetting around that kind of
community, still struggled withmy own stuff.
And then when it came time togo to college, well, mind you,
right before this then I startedto get my shit together and

(03:32):
finally started to understandall this.
And then, right around collegewas when I started coaching
people, started as a personaltrainer, didn't really do
anything with nutrition, onlylike I was just a trainer,
excuse me.
And then I built an in-persontraining business.
I was working for like threedifferent gyms and then, while I
was building my own thing, andthen I ended up building a
personal training business andthen, um, I became well then
after that, then I started totake the business online.

(03:53):
Um, and then I became known asthe sustainable weight loss guy.
Like there was no depth to it,it was just sustainable weight
loss.
That was my, that was my thing.
I just showed people how to eatdonuts, drink wine and lose
weight, and that was pretty muchit.
But then one thing led toanother.
And then that's when the innergame stuff started coming into
place, where I noticed and thisis where it shifted, because at
this time I had been running thebusiness for a while, I'd been

(04:13):
coaching people for years, I'malready started to like delegate
and I had staff and all thisstuff.
But then it was I noticed apattern.
I go, well, I can't do theweight loss stuff with people,
yet People want to come into theprogram and I'm ready to do the
fat loss stuff.
But then I'm like, well, fuck,mrs Jones has identity issues
and it's causing her to sabotage.
So we'll go.
Okay, fuck, I know I can't gether to lose weight till I fix

(04:34):
that.
Okay, let me fix her identityreal quick, then I'll get back
on track with weight loss.
Or I got to fix this stufffirst, fix that stuff first and
then, okay, we're good withweight loss now, because I knew
I couldn't do the weight lossstuff that I wanted to do until
I fixed their inner game.

(04:54):
I never talked about this in mymarketing, though, but, mind you
, during this whole time aboutmy twenties, I've been into
these kinds of books andstudying psychology and personal
development, all for my ownselfish reasons.
Just, I wanted to understandhow the brain works and human
behavior works, and all that.
I never thought it would cometrue in this side of things
either, but that's when it kindof started to evolve, is?
It wasn't necessarily somethingI talk about or wanted to even

(05:15):
do, but I couldn't do the thingthat these people were paying me
for, which is to cause atransformation, until I fixed
the underlying problems thatwere going on.
And so I would, just because ofwhat I learned in personal
development psychology.
I'm like cool, I can fix itreal quick.
A little transformation changetheir mindset, change their
beliefs, change the relationshipwith themselves.
Boom, we're ready for fat loss.
And then it realized.
I realized I go wow, this ismainstream, everyone struggles

(05:35):
with this stuff.
And right around then is when Itransitioned to, and I started
using the term dieting from theinside out, because that came
out in conversation a lot.
That wasn't just like amarketing employee I was.
I actually had a mentor of minewas asking me about my business
and I go well, we're actuallytalking about what I say to
people.
And I go, well, I basicallytell them I have to diet you
from the inside out before Idiet you for real.
And they go there's somethingthere, Gold Right.

(05:57):
So I stuck with the dietingfrom the inside out because it's
also kind of self-explanatory.
But that's my motto is we haveto diet from the inside out
before we diet for real.
So that's kind of the CliffNotes version.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
That was phenomenal, and so that that actually is one
of the things I wanted to touchon and that was like one of the
first questions I was thinkingabout was I love the dieting
from the inside out podcast andI know that that's actually one
of the first steps you actuallytake your clients through and
I've always been curious of likewhat that looks like from an

(06:26):
actionable perspective, likewhat does the process look like
for dieting from the inside out,the mental game, like what are
the main maybe couple thingsthat you are focused on or that
you educate around or teach toyour clients in that first
initial phase?
Because, number one, selfishly,I believe that this is something
I could work on with myself, myclients, because I too have

(06:49):
noticed this where, like uh, forcoming from like an engineering
background in the early days ofmy college career, everything
was like numbers and it was likeokay, if you hit this goal with
this protein, you hit thisnumber with your calories, like,
but there's, there wassomething missing and it was
like that little detail of likethe inner game, the
self-sabotage like you touchedon, and that's always been
something that I want to improveon to help my clients level up.

(07:12):
And so, um, from thatperspective, what?
What does the first phase ofyour program look like from a
actionable uh?

Speaker 1 (07:20):
perspective.
Yeah, so for context, for thoselistening, when I work with
someone, everything comes downto three stages.
Stage one we call dieting fromthe inside out.
Once we check all those boxes,now we can go into stage two.
We call it boring fat loss,which is it's just the normal
fat loss phase.
Stage three we call maintenancemastery, where that's where you
actually graduate coaching oryou don't, or we teach you how
to keep go through life withyour newfound results and that
kind of thing.

(07:41):
Now the the dieting from theinside out, though, cause that's
a common question I get fromparticipants and they're like
okay, how does that even work?
Because the first step is isexpectations.
Number one is it's literallyworthless giving you the fat
loss results you want if I don'tdiet you from the inside out.
First, one of the most, likeone of the biggest questions I
ask people I go cool, so if Icould just snap my fingers and
50 pounds loses like disappearsright now.

(08:03):
Genie style, like magic geniefrom Aladdin, is it?
Is it gone for good?
And they go, oh well, no, I gookay.
Well, that's the problem,because if you just admitted
magic genie powers does not takeaway your weight loss issues,
then why are we trying to whiteknuckle through weight loss
right now?
Right, if I could literally goboof, it's gone.
All the weight that you'retrying to lose is gone.

(08:29):
It's not staying off.
Okay, then we got to, we got.
Well, then, why?
Oh, your relationship with foodis bad, causing you to binge
eat.
Oh, you self-sabotageunconsciously so you fall off
every weekend.
Oh, you're binge eat everyother day because you have a bad
day at work and you don't knowhow to regulate your emotions
separately from food.
The list goes on.
So.
So for me, those are all thethings, because if you can't say
I, yes, it would, it would stayoff forever.
Then we got groundwork to doand I would go so far to say if

(08:49):
you say yes, it will stay offforever, then I go.
Then why is it not off rightnow?
And they go, oh, I don't know.
And that's usually.
There's something else underthe surface we're not seeing.
So this is why, in my head, thisis where it's really nuanced,
because everyone's dieting fromthe inside out journey isn't the
same.
Everyone's issues are different.
Um, just like with building ahouse, everyone's found it.
Depending on what kind of houseyou have, everyone's foundation

(09:09):
is going to be different, butyou have to have it.
We all can agree on that.
So, for me, um, I almost have achecklist in my head, like, of
all these issues that I talkabout, like your relationship
with food, your relationshipwith yourself, binge eating,
emotionally and sabotaging,knowing what to do but not doing
it.
Consistent, all these things.
We just have to have checkboxes.
But I'm such a from asimplicity side, I'm such a
checkbox guy, right.
So if we can check all theseboxes, then cool, we can move on

(09:31):
to the next level.
But if you can't say, yes, myrelationship with food is
fantastic, no, I don't binge eatanymore, I don't sabotage
anymore, I know what to allthese deeper things, then we're
good.
Now you can go into the boringfat loss phase.
But, as far as, like the gettinga little bit more tactical
around, like, what do I startsomeone with?
It's the, uh, it's what has thegreatest ROI and what has the

(09:53):
least amount of friction.
What's the main, the biggestproblem right now?
So, for example, um, for mostpeople, it's it's what's going
to have the greatest impactright now, cause if someone has
what I call a combo platter,they have all the things.
Well, what's the most prevalentright now, cause most people
get caught up in well, what do Istart with?
Where do I go?
At this point, it doesn't matter.
Pick one, like, put them all ona wall and throw a dart and see
which it hits, it doesn'treally matter, cause we're gonna

(10:20):
have to get through them allanyway.
You know, if, like, I bring infirst, it doesn't matter, they
all got to come in here.
So if you have these sevenissues causing all your problems
, what should I start with?
Like, you got to get throughthem all, it doesn't really
matter.
The only time that the caveatis well, what's the problem
right now?
So, so for most people it'stheir relationship with food,
because their relationship withfood causes binge eating, it
causes overwhelm around food, itmakes date night a living

(10:42):
nightmare.
So a lot of times that's one ofthe first spots.
But some people it may beidentity, because our
subconscious actions are alwaysin alignment with who we think
we are.
So it just depends on who theperson is.
But there's literally like acheckbox list in my head of all
these inner game issues and wejust start going down the list
and that's it.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
That's phenomenal.
And so one of the like bigbuzzwords I feel like is being
becoming more popular, it's beenbeing used and thrown around
like crazy, like it's candy isrelationship with food.
I feel like that's like a bigcommon buzzword relationship,
food, this, relationship withfood, that, and so how would you
define relationship with foodor how would you describe that

(11:21):
to someone?
And what would be like the?
Maybe a pillar or two of likewhat, what it looks like to have
a healthy relationship, and soon the other side, like what is
an unhealthy relationship withfood?

Speaker 1 (11:32):
look like so the way I compare it is think of your
relationship with food issimilar to a relationship with a
person.
There are times that may ebband flow.
It's not crystal clear, it'snot clean cut, and there can
sometimes be baggage.
And when there is baggage, weneed to have, sometimes,
boundaries.
We need to have more boundaries, less boundaries.
As you heal through thatrelationship and things get
better, you can bring walls down.
It's so much like arelationship with a person.

(11:53):
It's not even funny, um, the waythat I think about it, though,
cause some of these things areharder to define, right?
Um, but I would say, when itcomes to a relationship, like,
if I were to say, how would you,how would someone define a
relationship with a person?
Well, it's how you act aroundthem, your thoughts around them,
your beliefs around them, theemotional side of things, like,
there's a lot of facets.
So when I teach someone how tofix their relationship with food

(12:14):
I actually just did a podcaston this yesterday we have to
think about our words, we haveto think about our meanings, we
have to think about our beliefs,we have to think about our
actions, definitions that yougive to those foods, right?
Well, because if you thinkabout it, whatever it is.
If I have the right words I usearound, let's say food, if I
have the right beliefs aroundfood I forgot that one.
Words, beliefs, meanings,emotions in a similar camp, then

(12:38):
actions.
If those are all good, you'regoing to have a fantastic
relationship with food.
And if I have someone that I'mworking with who has a poor
relationship with food, I got tofigure out which it is, because
they all also intertwine,because if your words it's like
the old saying goes, if you lieto yourself long enough, you'll
eventually believe it.
And our words dictate a lot ofthe meanings and emotions we
have.
My wife is the greatest humanever, but and I I either call

(12:59):
her Shelby or baby.
Those are the two words I likehey, baby, will you get me this?
Or hey, shelby, whatever, if Idon't change anything about our
life.
But I just use the word bitchinstead.
It's just a word, just a label.
Instead of saying hey,yesterday I said hey, hey,
shelby, will you hand me a dietPepsi out of the fridge?
No issues there.
But if I said, hey, bitch, willyou hand me the diet Pepsi on
the fridge, okay, it's quite abit different, right, because

(13:21):
now it's going to change the.
It's not just the words, butit's going to change the meaning
in the emotions and we actsubconsciously on our emotions,
so they all trickle down to eachother.
But when I'm looking atsomeone's relationship with food
, I'm looking at what words arethey using, I'm looking at what
beliefs they have.
Like if you actually think youlook at bread and store fat.
Like, imagine if I said I lookat you and I just hate my life,

(13:43):
we're going to have issues inour relationship, right, if I
like I think of it this way.
If someone were to look attheir a person, imagine if you
talk to another person, like youtalk about food, you're the
cause of all my anxiety.
I can't control myself.
When I'm around you, I'm eitherall in or all out with you.
You caused me so much grief andonce I start I can't stop and

(14:05):
you literally only cause hell inmy life.
That's a lot to unpack if thatwas a person, but if it's with
food, it's literally the samething.
So we have to go through thelist.
What are the words you're using, what are your beliefs around
the thing, what are yourmeanings and associations and
emotions with the thing?
And the biggest one thatdictates all of it are your
actions.
Yeah, I can, I can have the.

(14:29):
I can say all the right things,I can believe all the right
things, but if I avoid breadlike the plague, I will have a
bad relationship with bread, ascorny as that sounds.
Um, but because we, because ofwhat we've learned from
childhood, a lot of times wehave subconscious actions around
food.
A lot of people were brought inthe like the clean, the plate
club or the once I start I can'tstop.
Or oh, these foods are onlytreats.
So a lot of people have what'scalled subconscious restriction.
People say all the time Jared,I literally don't.
I listened to every word.
You say I don't believe anyfood's bad, but I still can't

(14:50):
quit binging.
I go.
How often do you have thecookie then?
And they go oh, I don't, causethere's a subconscious
restriction is because somewheredeep in your head is, you still
believe cookies are only meantfor for the weekends and you
wonder why you eat the wholesleeve of Oreos.
So this is why we have toapproach it a little bit
differently, not just from theconscious side, but from the
subconscious side as well.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
So that is exactly where I wanted this to go and
I'm so stoked.
I'm so stoked that you endedright there because that is one
of the next few things that Ifeel like ends up becoming a
roadblock on a lot of people'sjourney, especially clients that
I've worked with, that I'velike, especially looking back
like three to five years ago onthe people that I feel like I

(15:29):
let down because I wasn't in theplace on my journey of coaching
, to help them at this level,which is the inner work, it's
the inner game, it's thesubconscious programming that we
get from our childhood andcorrect me if I'm wrong, but I
feel like that's really wherethe most biggest transformative

(15:49):
actions take place is reallyreprogramming that subconscious
mind.
And one thing, one topic thatI've heard you talk about that
I've always been curious to knowhow you approach is like the
inner work and that inner child,or being able to approach and
work on that inner child.
And so I want to know like whatdoes that actually look like?

(16:09):
What is the subconsciousreprogramming, that inner child
work really look like, and howwould you, how do you approach
that with clients?

Speaker 1 (16:17):
There's a lot, this is a, this is there's a lot and
there's.
We kind of I would separatethese a little bit Cause, yes,
part of inner child work withthis stuff is subconscious work,
but a lot of subconscious workis, um, is is a pattern thing.
So when it comes tosubconscious stuff, that's, it's
quite literally that it'ssubconscious.
You are not aware you're doingit, um and so for most people,

(16:38):
they don't understand that themind gravitates to.
It's like.
It's proven by psychology themind and our nervous system
gravitate to what's mostfamiliar.
So what you've been doing forthe longest time, but I always
talk about, like to simplifyinner work for most people is
two parts it's new informationand really uncomfortable action
that goes in opposition of yourold conditioning, as in, for
example, let's say, if it's withfood, let's say you were

(16:58):
brought up and you always feelthat chocolate is bad.
Chocolate's bad.
It's a treat.
We don't have it often and itstores fat and I'm uncontrolled
around chocolate.
Okay, we need to have a newbelief and new information
around.
Okay, here's why chocolate'snot bad.
Here's why you can have it inmoderation.
Here's why it's not a treat.
It's you can literally have itas many times in the week as you
want, but then the hardest partis the uncomfortable action,

(17:19):
going against the oldconditioning.
It's the same reason whyinformation isn't enough.
If someone's scared to heights,I can give you all the logistics
why jumping out of a plane isgoing to be perfectly safe.
You know it's all the things,but it doesn't matter.
Your brain views it as I'mgoing to die.
So that's the thing peopledon't understand is, when it
comes to a lot of this work,your brain is just about

(17:39):
self-preservation.
It's not about happiness.
Your brain doesn't care aboutyour results.
Your brain doesn't care Ifyou're happy.
Your brain doesn't want you todie.
It's like the lizard brain.
It's the old, more evolutionaryside of you.
That's like I don't care aboutanything else but
self-preservation.
Well, the problem is it willkeep you in a reality that you
don't like, because it feelsfamiliar.
It's why people go back to old,shitty relationships.

(18:00):
It's why homeless people whofind a million dollars go back
to being homeless.
It's why most people gain theirweight back.
It's it's because we gravitateto what's most familiar, because
the brain and nervous systemfeel like it's safest, because
it knows what to predict and allthese things.
So, with subconscious work,it's new information around the
truth, the truth behind thestuff that most people were
brought up incorrectly with.

(18:20):
But then the second part is theuncomfortable action, cause we
can't just stay in thinking thesame shit without changing
action, expect to move forward.
So let's say, with food, thatwould be like I have a client
right now.
She is scared shitless ofchocolate.
Then her biggest reason forworking with me is to fix her
relationship with food.
I literally have it in herprogram to seven days a week she
eats a hundred calories ofchocolate Because it's
terrifying for her, but becausewe have to get the brain

(18:41):
acclimated to a new reality.
But this goes against the oldconditioning.
She would much rather eat 800calories a day, work out every
day, than me eat literally 100calories of chocolate every day.
But that's what it's going totake for her, because it's not
just new information.
Here's why chocolate's not bad,but it's uncomfortable action
in opposition of the oldconditioning.
We can only find what we enable.

(19:02):
If we enable restriction, wefind restriction.
You cannot find freedom andenable chaos.
We only find what we enable.
So we have to ask ourselveswhat actions am I enabling?
Or what am I enabling in myactions?
And that's why I'm finding thesame shitty results.
So the inner child part, though, is because there's there's so
many levels of subconsciousstuff.

(19:22):
The inner child stuff is, um,you can actually do what it's
called inner child work and goin and like, basically give
yourself the permission and talkto your inner child as if they
were in the room with you.
So a lot of times, this iswhere people get really kooky.
They're like I don't know whatyou're smoking, jared, but this
is kind of weird.
Can I pause you for a moment?
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Just because I want to touch on one thing with the
subconscious and the with thesubconscious side of things,
it's just to kind of summarizewhat you said which was really
resonated with me.
It was like essentially and youcan tell me if I'm wrong here,
but essentially it's like findthe scariest thing which is like
maybe like that, your fear ischocolate.

(19:59):
It's like I'm afraid that whenI eat it I'm just going to go
binge on a shit ton of it, orthat's the one thing that I.
It's been programmed in my mindto be evil like the devil,
right.
But if you focus on includingthat and improve the fact that I
can still move towards my youknow, light, move towards my
goal, while still including that, it's going to help heal that

(20:22):
relationship.
Or is there more to go alongwith that subconscious
programming, along with?

Speaker 1 (20:26):
that it's, it's, it's , it's both Um, the the way that
I like to word it is.
Well, I can't take credit forthis.
Actually it's ironically, it'sin this book, right here.
Um Dr Joe Dispenza talks about,when it comes to subconscious
work, is you have to becomeconsciously aware of your
subconscious self.
Okay, you cannot escape a jailyou don't know you're trapped in
.
So, because the problem withthings being subconscious is

(20:47):
you're not aware they're there,right, when I say subconscious
restriction, you don't realizeyou're restricting.
If I say I subconsciously getmy volume up and I start talking
really loud.
I wasn't aware of that.
Right, you can't fix what youaren't aware of, because here's
the thing.
That, right, you can't fix whatyou are you aren't aware of,
because here's the thing Mostpeople don't realize.
Most people think they are theproblem.
It's not true.
Your patterns the problem.
Because I think it's TonyRobbins that says that where, if

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you think you're the problem,you'll never fix it, because
your brain won't let youself-destruct.
Because if we, if you're theproblem and we get rid is the
problem, let's fix the pattern.
Your subconscious is theproblem.
Let's fix that, because thatalso takes away guilt, that also
takes away shame, that alsotakes away what's wrong with me.

(21:30):
It's like no, you're good.
It's this pattern that youlearned when you were six in
defenseless and that someoneelse put in you and that you
were just doing the best you didas a child and that's why you
started binge eating or youthought chocolate was bad, and
you've just been wearing theequivalent of six-year-old
clothes your whole life.
Take off the clothes, you'refine.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
That's gonna be a dope clip, yeah that was amazing
and, and just so you guys know,this is exactly why I wanted to
run the podcast, um, and andyou are absolutely silly not to
have a notepad out taking notesright now, because I know so
many of you struggle with thesethings that's subconscious

(22:07):
programming, you struggle withhaving these relationships with
food, and this next part is whatI'm really excited to dive into
as well, because this issomething that I really want to
be able to integrate into mycoaching as well, which is the
inner work, that inner childwork, and so just to kind of go
back into that, like what doesthat look like?
Or what are the the main umideas and things that people you

(22:28):
find that struggle with innerwork, and like how, how do you
approach that in general?

Speaker 1 (22:33):
So cause there's there's lots of inner work, but
but you're wanting to talk aboutspecifically inner child work.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, because the biggest thing I've noticed is
that number one people are again, it's subconscious, in a way of
like unaware of like wherethese these bad relationships
come from, or why every time thecookies on the counter they
have to go crush the entirething.
They can't just go grab one,move on with their day and
continue doing what they weredoing.

(22:58):
It's like I feel like a lot ofthat oftentimes is rooting from
like, maybe scarcity of it intheir household, or you're
afraid that their brother isgoing to go eat all of them, so
they need to go eat them allbefore someone else does.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, um, these are really common scenarios.
I'll have someone do innerchild work.
Now, here's the thing.
This is, this is, um, when,when I'm having a uh doing,
having a client do inner childwork, I'm not unpacking this
with them.
If someone needs this to beunpacked with them, that's more
of the role of a therapist, um,but there, but I work with a lot
of therapists.
I love a lot of people withclinical psych degrees coming
into my program and things likethat.

(23:30):
And the thing is with all ofthis is there's an old saying is
to heal the man, you must healthe little boy, to heal the
woman, you must heal the littlegirl.
And whether anyone wants toadmit it or not, we all have an
inner child in us, or, to behonest, a lot of us may have
several inner children.
This is called parts work.
You have different parts of youor versions of yourself, and so
for me, I'm actually doing alot of really heavy inner child

(23:52):
work in therapy right now myselfwith some other stuff not
related to fitness or food atall.
But there's a very hurt13-year-old Jared, I actually
have a picture of the exactversion of myself.
So my therapist is actuallydoing guided meditations with me
.
It's I literally feel like I'mtripping on something, like I
feel like when I like I'm onMars, when she has me doing
these, but she's facilitatingthem, where I'm actually in my

(24:14):
head, having a conversation withthe equivalent of 13 year old
Jared, and it is healing.
It is heavy, it is a lot.
So you can do, in a weird way,the same similar, a very similar
approach to with yourself.
So, cause, at the end of theday, the way that I preface it
with people, cause we don't wantthis to be overwhelming, it's
heavy, it's awkward, it's weird,so we want to make this really
tactical.
And the way I start with peopleis I go cool Whenever someone's

(24:38):
saying like, let's say let's,let's take the uh, the big
brother thing, where it's like,hey, I can't eat unless I have
to smash my food really fast andeat all of it, cause I may not
get anymore, because my, I livewith four other older brothers
and they eat all the food.
Okay, cool, um, are you livingwith him right now?
Well, no, you're an adult,you're.
You're.
You're when I was probably six,where I would eat, or when I

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would have to eat all the foodin sight because my brothers
would eat it all and I wouldn'thave enough and I'd be hungry.
I'd be like cool.
So we need to take the judgmentaway from being uncontrolled,
because that was a six-year-oldsurviving.
It's why we don't get too upsetwhen children throw temper
tantrums because they're two.
It's what two-year-olds do.
They throw temper tantrumsbecause they don't know how to

(25:26):
regulate, so we can't.
This is my problem.
When it's like people are likeno, I'm not this weak piece of
shit Did it.
I'm better than this.
And it's like okay, there'stime for the ambitious side.
But there's no.
Your old self is probably 13.
That needs some fucking love.
That needs to be seen.

(25:46):
That needs to be validated.
That needs to be toldEverything's going to be okay.
Like when I'm literally doingthe inner child work with my
therapist, like the one thingshe's helped me with is I got to
bring a lot of love and graceto this because I want to like I
originally wanted to be likeI'm better than this.
Stop the old self.
Better than actually there's a13 year old that just needs
loved on.
That didn't get what he needed.
So but here's the cool thing inpsychology you can give them

(26:08):
what they needed.
It's what they call reparenting, where you can be the parent
you didn't have.
You can be, give yourself thepermission, the validation, the
support, the whatever that youdid not get when you needed it.
And that's where this getsreally powerful.
So, the way that I start tohelp people with this, I go cool
.
If I could, let's just say Icould pull some magic right now
and I could put you in the sameroom with that version of

(26:30):
yourself, would you have words?
And every person goes well,fuck, absolutely, I go.
Okay, you can actually do it.
Because, like, if you said,jared, I want to put you in the
same room, a room just like this, this with the 13 year old
version of yourself, would you?
Would you have some stuff tosay?
I'd be like, yeah, I, I would.
I have some stuff to talk tothat little kid about.
And I, so it's like cool, whatdo you think you'd say?

(26:51):
And you need to have thoseconversations.
Um, now, there's a few ways Ilike to prompt it.
Um, cause I don't want toprompt it too much, but like,
for example, with a person,let's say, with this, the, with
the, the brothers eating all thefood stuff, is what would you
tell her?
Let's just say it's her rightnow and say, well, she doesn't.
Well, you're an adult, so youdon't have to do that anymore.

(27:12):
Oh, okay, so you're releasingher of her duties.
And then also I like to gothrough this I like to, number
one, thank them for keeping youalive.
We need to start this withgratitude, because whatever bad
behavior you're struggling with,it started because of a good
intention.
You were just fucking six and Ihave a really good story at the
end of this specific part thatI think will wrap will, will

(27:33):
really tie a knot on this.
Well, um, you were trying tosurvive, doing the best that you
could as a six, seven, eight,13, whatever year old.
So you need to thank them.
Hey, you did the best you could.
It's like when a four-year-oldbrings you an ugly ass drawing
that they worked really hard on.
They're four, it's going to beugly, but they did their best
and you should be grateful forit.
Thank them.
Number two release them of theirduties.

(27:53):
Hey, look, I want I appreciatefor what you did.
Thank you for keeping us safeand alive with the best that you
could.
I'm so proud of you.
It's you're literally put it,put close your eyes and think
about.
You're literally talking to asix year old and then thank you
for keeping us alive.
I want to let you know you areofficially relieved of your
duties.
I'm a big boy Now.
I'm a big girl Now.
You'd be so proud of wherewe're at.

(28:14):
You wouldn't believe wherethings are at right now.
And I want to let you know I'vegot it from here.
You don't have to, you do nothave to protect me anymore.
Most people get emotional rightaround here.
That means you're healing, thatmeans some breakthroughs
happening, and then, if there'sanything left in there, say it
as in like hey, I know, mom anddad were crazy.
I, I'm sorry.

(28:35):
It was not fair what they didto you.
It was not fair.
You felt this way.
It was not fair.
They treated you this way andalmost thinking of it.
Thinking of it like what do theyneed right now?
That's something my therapisttalks about me with with the
inner child work.
She goes what's he need rightnow, what's he need to hear?
And I was in the middle of thisheavy inner child session like
eyes closed, tears streaming,and I'm like on Mars with my 13

(28:57):
year old self.
And in my case specifically,she goes what's he need to hear
and I go that it's all gonna beokay.
That was all I needed to hear.
So I, in my head, was able totell that to my 13 year old self
and it did something orwhatever it is, and you and you
can go back and do this workover and over again and and
things like that.
But like that's kind of theorder of operations is thank

(29:18):
them for keeping you alive,relieve them of their duties and
whatever else you want to say.
If you could put them in thesame room and then do that
periodically, especially whentriggered, especially when these
things come up, um, and that'skind of where I like to start.
So, but a lot of times I'llhave someone do it in a journal
fashion.
A lot of times it's a lot tosit and visualize and all this
stuff.
So I I started with an innerchild letter.
Write the letter.
If you could write it to yourinner child, hey, thank you for

(29:40):
keeping us alive, excuse me, um,relieving the other duties,
whatever she wants to say, putit in a letter and don't.
And you can just throw theletter away.
You don't have to do anythingwith it.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
So, yeah, or, or, or, even you could take that letter
and every time something orcause obviously it's not going
to be one and done.
I wrote the letter, I forgavehim, I gave him the love and
it's like oh, I'm fricking greatand healed Right.
I'm sure there's going to bemoments still over time.
Uh, as time goes on, we're like, oh, this, this is keeps coming
up again, and so would that bea good time to hike, have that

(30:13):
folded up somewhere safe whereyou go and read it again to kind
of like re re ignite thatpassion you have for that 13
year old boy or girl.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, I mean you could.
I think it'd be a good time todo another one, cause it's like
um, because you're a higherlevel version now coming to it.
Okay, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
It's like it's it's newfound perspective, maybe what
that kid needs in that momentthat you're a 13 year old, I
mean our perspective shifts.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
watching a movie twice in a row, that's so true.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Let alone like you do it again.
It's like there's this might bethis other thing that came now,
cause every time you do this,you're raising your personal
vibration, you're raising yourawareness.
Um, like I'll, I'll cross theboard.
So there's going to be thingsthat you that you didn't think
about, or things that you wouldword at word differently.
It's just like if we watch a,uh, if you and I, as like 30
year olds, watch a movie fromwhen we were a kid, we didn't

(31:01):
see all the sexual innuendos.
We're just like, oh, that wait,I never thought about the
Rugrats doctor name being lipshits.
That's fucking weird.
Like I didn't see that as a kid, but we're adults now, so we
know.
Like, oh, that's a kind of aninnuendo.
It's the same thing.
Here is when you're you're alower level version of you, when
going to see things from adifferent perspective.
So amazing.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
I'm still.
I'm still like, uh, absorbingall that information Cause, like
, literally, this is this is oneof the main reasons I wanted to
go down this rabbit hole isbecause I feel like this is one
of the skills that I have notfully grasped yet, that I really
want to fully understand and beable to eventually teach and

(31:44):
help my clients with, because,um, I do have a handful that are
in in a similar position where,like, no matter, you know how
well we're doing with ournumbers, in a sense, right there
, there's always something thatis subconsciously holding them
back and or a trigger thathappens that sets them off, and

(32:05):
I think that that's the only wayto truly gain the successful
power, to get on the successfulpath and to stay on it forever
is to be aware of thosesubconscious behaviors, be aware
of that relationship you havewith the sleeve of cookies,
right?
And so I think the one otherthing that I think has really

(32:26):
been impactful that I'velistened to on your podcast and
I think, again, you're just anamazing communicator around is a
self-sabotage and I think, thesabotage side of things of like
this reoccurring thing where youknow, maybe it's a month in.
Of like this reoccurring thingwhere, you know, maybe it's a
month in or maybe it's threemonths in, clients just have

(32:47):
this automatic trigger of like Igot to stop this or or I'm
going to go sabotage it.
And so I kind of want to diveinto a little bit of that
self-sabotage side of things andlike a couple of like the main
triggers that you find, or whatis the biggest cause of
self-sabotage and what is ahealthy approach to overcoming
or preventing that self-sabotagefrom happening over and over

(33:11):
and over.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
I really think sabotage is a two-part thing.
It's identity and patterns,because half the reason we
sabotage is because it's inalignment with who we think we
are.
As in, if you have an identityof I'm not good enough, or I'm
too far gone, or I'm too old, orI've always been this way, well
, now you're getting resultsthat go in opposition of that
identity.
So it's no wonder you fall off.

(33:32):
Right, if my identity is I'm abinger, now I don't just binge,
I'm a binger.
That's a noun, that's not averb.
I'm a binger.
Well, I go three weeks withoutbinge eating.
The brain's all aboutself-preservation, right?
So now that identity isthreatened, so I find a reason
to binge.
Or one of the big ones is howmany times has someone said I'm
not consistent?
They get consistent for a month.

(33:56):
Well, something has to happen.
Now you have to sabotage it,because the identity of I'm not
consistent is threatened.
And there's an interestingrelationship between your
identity and subconscious mind.
It's like a mother bear.
It guards it.
So if your identity isthreatened, your mother, your,
your subconscious does whateverit needs to do to bring it back
to its where it's setting.
Think of, think of youridentity like the thermostat on
the wall.
So let's say, if my house isset at 70 and I leave the door

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open on a sunny day, the roomhe's up to 80.
The thermostat notices thefluctuation, turns on, cools the
room back off to its regulatedtemperature that it's set at.
So if your temperature is yourself-image, your story, your
beliefs about yourself, who youthink you are, your identity of,
I'm not good enough.
I'm a dieter, I've alwaysstruggled, I'm too far gone,
whatever it may be, and you getgreat results, it doesn't matter

(34:43):
.
It's why something alwayshappens and cools the room back
off to where you're set.
That's why most people gainweight back to where they
started exactly and it'sinteresting.
So that's the first part is, ifyou sabotage a lot, we need to
look at your identity, becauseyou know I could give you all
the strategies ever, but if youdon't change the foundation of
who you are and the beliefs youhave about yourself, it doesn't
matter what strategies andtactics I show you.
So we need to make sure and wecan go on an identity rabbit

(35:06):
hole if you want, but that's thefirst step, is the first part
is identity.
Um, because our actionssubconsciously aligned with who
we think we are, because we have90, 85,.
90% of our day is the issubconscious.
You're on autopilot all thetime, so what's our autopilot to
?
In alignment with it is who youthink you are, so that's why we

(35:26):
need to check that first.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
So with identity.
One thing that I've picked upon is, like, with my in-person
clients, I can pick up on thislanguage, like really quickly,
of like they say I'm this way,like whoa are you?
You're putting a label onyourself Like, stop that, we got
it, we got to shift that.
We got to say no, I can do this, or I'm not that person anymore

(35:50):
.
You know, and you got to say itout loud.
I feel like, and so, when itcomes to the identity work of
like I'm not around my onlineclients that much and in person,
right, and so like I don't knowthe conversations they're
having with themselves or withtheir family or with their
friends, and so how, how wouldyou help them even be aware of
their own habits and patternswhen it comes to identity work?

(36:12):
Because I feel like that's a,that's a challenge for me, at
least in this position I'm inright now where, like, I have
like a fraction of my businessin person, which those people,
um, this I can pick up onquickly, but for the online it's
a little bit harder because I'mnot having those specific
conversations as much.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Sure, I mean, but even with your in-person clients
, you're not with them every day, every other, or?

Speaker 2 (36:30):
every second of the day.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Let's say they have a session with you every day,
which probably isn't even thecase.
There's the other 23 hours ofthe day.
You're not with them,absolutely.
So it's number one tell themlike hey, you're going to think
like this, hey, this is what'sgoing to happen.
So giving them the informationand the tactics, but also
correct it when it does happen.
The reason in in-persontraining it's so easy is because
you're right there, so when itcomes up you can go hang on.

(36:52):
But it's the same.
But online there's still alevel of communication, a
check-in, whether it be a phonecall or a text message or an
email, any level ofcommunication.
You got to flag it.
I had a client the other day.
She said something about I'mdoing great at incorporating
junk foods into my diet.
Like you said, I go pause.
She used the word junk food, sothat tells me her labels around
food are off.
So we had.
So I responded to her about whywe got to be careful with our

(37:13):
labels, right?
So, because it was a, she wascommunicating.
So it's any time that clientcommunicates is.
You just got to be aware of it.
Whether it be in person, phonecall, zoom call, check in, text
message, email, doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
So okay, and so of course, we can be the person to
facilitate that like awarenessand and point it out.
How do you help them becomeaware of like their own pattern,
of that of, say, like obviouslyin the first phase probably a
little more hands-on, a littlemore like, hey, you know, call

(37:46):
them out on it.
But I'm sure as they gettowards like that middle and the
end phase, like they go throughthe boring fat loss I believe
is phase two, and then they gointo like the lifestyle mastery
side of things, how do theyprevent themselves from going
back into those cycles and thoseloops in that final phase?

Speaker 1 (38:02):
So this is the, this is the the.
The other part, when I saidsabotage is identity and
patterns, this is when we haveto do the pattern work, because
the thing is the cool thing, thedope thing with sabotage is it
has a breadcrumb trail becauseevery I actually just did this
with a new client on a, on acall the other day.
Where she goes I'm, I need helpwith this part, cause she, I
have, I have some courseworkthat I have clients go through

(38:25):
with some of this stuff to helpreinforce things but she wasn't
fully understanding it.
So we had a call and talkedabout it, but I but the way I
worded is sabotage is completelypattern driven.
So the cool thing is it's, it'sproven, what you do, right,
it's not random, it's veryyou've done the same thing.
So I would say number one is weneed to get aware of the pattern
.
So I'll ask the person I gocool, the last 10 years you've

(38:47):
tried to lose weight.
You probably sabotaged in thesame five or 10 ways.
What are they?
Again, you can't escape a jail,you don't know, you're trapped
in.
So we have to become aware ofour subconscious self.
So what are the patterns thatalways happen?
Because, again, if, if, if wecan, if we know what's coming,
we can anticipate and stop it.
So what always happens is thatyou do well for a bit, but
something about like 17 days in,you want to quit is that you do

(39:09):
good until you lose motivation.
Then you quit showing up as youdo good, but then you have kids
and the husband and work andschool.
Then you quit prioritizingyourself and then you start to
fall off.
Then you just go from trackingto like rounding and then to
fuck it.
What is it?
Everyone's different.
This is the thing is there's amillion ways people sabotage,
but we need to get clear on well, what's your pattern, what's
your common denominator of the,the, the, the things that always

(39:32):
happen.
So that's step one.
Get aware, aware of it, writethem down, because now you can
go.
Oh, these are the top 10 thingsI do.
The last five years I've triedto lose weight.
This is the 10 ways I'vesabotaged.
Cool, the top ones, because ithappens the same, the same way,
for most people.
Number two we need to do what Icall play the.
If this, then what game?
If this happens, number one,then what are you going to do?

(39:53):
Write the plan.
The worst thing someone can dois they wait till they're in the
middle of sabotaging, justdecide what to do.
It's the same reason, like ananalogy I like to use is why
most parents have the sex, drugsand peer pressure conversation
with their kids before they needto, so they can anticipate,
prepare and anticipate.
So when the day comes they'reready.
You don't want your kid likeshould I have these drugs?

(40:14):
Should I go in the back of thecar with this boy?
Should I do?
No, you don't want them to bein that moment then deciding
because emotions are all overthe place.
Peer pressure is a thing, butyou probably most people
listening to have kids probablyhave the conversation around the
dangers of like sex, drugs andpeer pressure before they go
into middle school, before thesethings happen.
So when, when they do, becausethey know they're going to

(40:34):
happen, the kid is ready andarmed and can implement the
strategy that the parents gaveor gave them.
Same thing here.
So step one was get aware ofyour patterns.
What happens?
These are the top five to 10.
Number two if this, then whatgo through each one?
If this happens, I losemotivation.
I don't want to show up.
Then what am I going to do?
What would you do?

(40:55):
And then fill in the blank.
If this happens, I step on thescale and I want to quit.
Then what are you going to do?
Not quit, because that's notwho we are anymore, right?
Whatever it is, go through thelist and give yourself actual
tactical information.
When each of these happens incoaching people like you and me,
do it for the client, likewe'll walk them through, like
cool.
Here's what I want you to dowhen this happens.
And then so that's step one,step two.

(41:16):
Step three is now.
We anticipate.
Sabotage always comes backaround.
I always tell people, it doesn'tmatter, because you know big
coach jared's here or coachtyler's here, it doesn't matter
that sabotage is always going tocome back around, because it's
a pattern.
The only way to stop a patternis get on the outside of it and
break the pattern.
So this is when we anticipateit when it's coming.
First of all, this gives you somuch power and it makes it so

(41:36):
much easier.
You, you know you're not theproblem anymore.
You also see it coming and so,and you have a plan ready.
You're just waiting for thisthing to come through the door.
So you already are going to beso much more successful than the
final part.
Fight.
It's here.
I always view it like I neveractually saw the movie, but I
know the premise of it.
Like the purge you've seen thepurge movies.
No, you know the premise of thepurge.

(41:57):
Yeah, okay.
So like, like murder, like allcrime is legal for 24 hours.
No one like goes oh, the purgestonight.
Well, that sucks.
Everyone boards their house andthey know it's coming.
They know the date it's coming,they know what's going to
happen and they know what'sgoing to happen if they don't
prepare, and so they prepareaccordingly.
Before it happens, they go backto normal life.
Sabotage is the same way.

(42:17):
Sabotage is is all right, thisis coming.
I never prioritize myself.
I lose my motivation when Istart to get bored, or whatever
it may be.
You create the plan If thishappens.
Here's what I'm going to do.
If this happens, here's whatI'm going to do.
If this happens, here's whatI'm going to do.
I know it's going to come.

(42:43):
I can feel you're going to beso much more successful and if
you aren't, you just get back ontrack.
But this way you are almost onthe offense of sabotage.
It is not random.
It is not um, oh, I'm not meantto be successful with this.
It's no.
It's literally a pattern of howyour brain operates and how
your patterns operate.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
So this is how we have to go through it, jared.
It's a lot.
You blow me away, dude.
I'm dead serious, like I.
I'm not kidding you.
I'm going to listen back tothis myself, probably about five
times to really absorb andreally really grasp these things
.
And, um, I can't thank youenough because I want you to
know that this right here, thisconversation that we just had,
uh are still having, but Igenuinely think that these are
the things that I have beenneeding to work on myself, with

(43:24):
my clients and my abilities as acoach, and it's no wonder that
not only you and your clientsare so successful because of
these conversations, thesefoundations that you set up and
help them work through.
And, uh, that's honestly why Ilook up to you so much as a
coach and this isn't me justtrying to fluff you up, or
nothing but.

(43:45):
I genuinely mean that man.
I think I've always been someonewho's really taken a lot of
pride in trying to invest inmentors and get surrounded and
get in the right rooms with theright people, and I'm so
thankful that our paths havecrossed and I want to thank you
so much for having me come inyour home.
Man and you know, being anamazing host is everything and,

(44:06):
I think, one thing that I'vealso seen lately.
I also know that one of thebiggest things that you have
going on is like you have somemore transitions.
You have a bunch of thingsgoing on with your business and
I'm not sure how much or whatyou are willing to to share at
this point in time, but I'mcurious, like, what is next for
Jared?

(44:27):
I know you've been doing thisfor a long time.
I know you've worked withliterally thousands of people.
I know you are the definitionof growth minded.
You.
You literally all these booksbehind you.
You're in multiple differentmentorships, you're always
learning and, uh, that'ssomething I really look up to as
well.
And so, like what, what is next?
Like what is this next?
You know what, what?
I know you're continuing tocoach, obviously, but like what

(44:48):
is what is this evolutionlooking like right now in terms
of what you're doing.
I appreciate that.
When's this airing Um?

Speaker 1 (44:57):
two, three weeks.
So, uh, okay, well, that's why,because, because, um, the next
big thing is actually isprobably about the time this is
going to be airing.
Um, I'll be opening up mycoaching, my, I have a very
special coaching group I'm goingto be doing because, recently,
for the past, I've been coachingfor like 12 years.
It's been a really long timeI've been an online coaching
before.
It was cool to be an onlinecoach, right, I built, like even
before that, before that I thisin-person training business,

(45:18):
all the things.
I've never not been a coachingteacher, like I'm just, it's
never, not even before coaching,I was still a teacher with
other things, right.
So, um is is I've just, I'vechanged directions of the
business, like we've talkedabout um, instead of scaling
one-on-one coaching for the waythat I see it isn't accessible

(45:40):
to everyone, right, whether itbe one price points, whether it
be also just like at scale, likethere's only one body, there's
only one Jared, right, there'sjust a level of people and I
don't want to only be able tohelp, like in a small group of
people.
So I'm still going to be takingon like my personal roster of,
like VIP clients, but I want tomake this concept of dieting
from the inside out moreaccessible to the masses,

(46:02):
because I think this is trulywhere the change happens and I
feel like one of my gifts isbeing able to teach like this.
It's why I love podcasts, it'swhy I love hosting webinars and
workshops and speaking andthings like that, and I feel
like that's where I have a lotof untapped power.
So I'm going to actually beopening up, uh, for the first
time ever, uh, my coaching group.
It's called the dieting fromthe inside out, collective and

(46:28):
and, uh, and it's basically likeuh, I'm making it where it's,
uh, where it's still aninvestment, but it's.
It's much more affordable thanone-on-one coaching for most
people, um, and it's, but it'saccessible directly to me and my
team.
Um, and I've got basically goingto have it where people can
access all these frameworks.
Like, I need that sabotagething, but I don't know what to
do.
Well, here it is.
Uh, I need that binge eatingthing, but I don't know what to
do, here it is.
But then they also have accessto myself.
Um, in the rest of thecollective members that are

(46:49):
going to be a higher caliberindividuals, um, but they're all
getting led by me, but that'sgoing to be opening it up in
like three weeks, so talk aboutthe probably going to be the
most powerful and impactfulcommunity that I know in.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
I know of in the entire fitness community, so
that's fucking amazing.
I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Uh, I'm also in the middle of writing my book right
now.
Um, I signed with a publisher,so I'm right in the middle of
writing the dieting from theinside out book.
People ask me all the time.
They're like, hey, where can Istudy this stuff to learn about?
And I go, I don't know of abook, so I'll just write one.
So I'm in the middle of writingthe dieting from the inside out
book.
It's not secured right yet, butI'm.

(47:33):
Word on the street is I'm, I'm.
I haven't secured it yet at thetime of recording this, but I'm
like it's right there.
Um, and then, yeah, a lot of it.
I do, I don't even know.
There's just so many thingsgoing on and I used to be in a
place where I had to knoweverything.
But that's me trying to takethe known to the unknown.
But I'm, part of me is justlike we're just going to be here
for what is I know is it'sgonna be dope.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
So, yeah, dude, that is so cool, bro, okay so I think
, uh, I'm glad I got you on nowbefore you're mega famous with
your ted talk, but uh, whenyou're back around with your
book tour, uh, we'll have youback on.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Let's talk about the book more in depth that sounds
freaking exciting.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
I can't wait to read that.
Um and one moment I'm going topull up my question, uh-oh uh-oh
, oh wait, you're doing thatthing, yeah.
So I want to start a littletradition with the Taught Not
Told podcast and I want to, atthe end of every podcast, ask
one question, Uh-oh no pressure.

(48:34):
And your answer can be as longor short as you'd like.
Okay, but I'm curious if youcould only cause it's taught,
not told, and instead of tellingour clients what to do we like
to teach them and help themeducate and learn and be able to
really, uh, integrate thesethings that they learn.
And so my question is is if youcould only teach your clients

(48:54):
one skill or habit that wouldhave the single greatest impact
on their health and quality oflife?
What would it be?

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Go inward no doubt about it.
Go inward.
It's the epitome of my entiremethodology and mission is you
have to diet from the inside outbefore you diet for real.
Everyone knows what to do.
Everyone knows they should eatbetter.
They should not eat like anasshole.
They should move their bodymore.
They should eat like.
Everyone knows what to do.
But the problem is everythingbelow the surface.
It's literally like buying ahouse and the walls crack and

(49:23):
they keep cracking.
So you just keep painting overthem and plastering them, but
the walls keep cracking.
It's the foundation.
That's the problem, and it isalways go inward.
Your outside world is just areflection of your inner state
and your inner stuff, whether itbe your mindset, your beliefs,
your vibration, your childhood,it doesn't matter.
Your world, outer world, is amirror, is a mirror of what's

(49:45):
going on internally.
Actually, I never told anyonethis.
That's what this is about.
That's why I like this necklaceI wear every day.
This little like looks like alittle black mirror is because
it's my personal reminder thatif something's going on out here
in the outer world with me, Ihave to go.
What's going on on the inside?
Is it a belief?
Is it a?
Is it an energy?
Is it a?
Is it a uh, something I'm notworking through enough in
therapy, whatever it may be, iseverything outside is a

(50:08):
reflection of what's going on onthe inside, so we need to look
where it actually matters and goinward.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Jared, I can't tell you how I this may be.
I can't tell you how this maybe.
I won't say impossible.
This is probably going to beextremely challenging to top
this interview.
I'm going to be.
I'm going to have a hard timefinding some guests that will be
able to top this.
But, man, I can't thank youenough again, seriously like,
for being such an amazing hostand having me in your home, also

(50:39):
with this cool setup we puttogether and everything but uh
uh, I w.
I'm sure people after listeningto this are going to be like I
need to.
I need to connect with this guy.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
I need.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
I need.
So I have two things, Um.
Number one, where can peoplefind you?
What is the best way to connectwith you?
Uh, and also, I need you all todo me a favor go shoot this man
a follow whatever platform hehas, uh that he talks about, and
please send him a message andthank him for for coming on and
sharing all this amazinginformation.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
I appreciate that, man.
This is also a testament to youtoo, because most coaches don't
talk about this stuff.
They don't want to.
Most coaches don't have thedesire to teach the stuff
themselves.
This is stuff no one wants totouch with a 10 foot pole.
So the fact that you'reliterally coming on a camera
saying this is what I want toget better at, so I'm getting
the best people that I know howto, that's a testament to you
and how good of a coach you are.
So you guys are in the righthands, like listening to Tyler

(51:30):
and um.
So for me, uh, if you want to,my show is called dieting from
the inside out.
Like it's kind ofself-explanatory at this point.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Oh, it's on all platforms and youtube uh, hang
out on instagram and tiktok atreal jared hamilton, um, and I
answer all my dms.
So yeah, it'll also be in thedescription.
But, jared, thank you again,bro, I really thank you, man.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
I appreciate this.
We'll do this again sometime.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
This is so fucking great 100 appreciate you, love
you, dude, love you too.