February 8, 2021 • 93 mins
John Newport used to be a pick-up artist. He coached other men on how to pick up girls using manipulative tactics. That is, until he was told by a former girlfriend that she felt used.
Over the past two decades, John has been showing both men and women how to meet people by being authentic and building a sustainable relationship without manipulation. You can find out more about him and his co-host on the I Know Cupid podcast at the website below:
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Intro (00:01):
This is the teachable soul podcast. Because we cannot
on the journey to success.
here's your host, Kat Daniels.
Kathryn Daniels (00:22):
Welcome to the teachable soul podcast, I am
artists, feel free to go backand do that. You can pause now
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pickup artists community, andthen along the way sort of
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and actual connection andintimacy. And kind of like a
John Newport (01:26):
How are you? I'm doing great. Thank you for
Kathryn Daniels (01:30):
Absolutely.
Thank you so much for being
John Newport (01:43):
Yeah, we are due to listener demand put on us. So
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releases,
Kathryn Daniels (02:07):
right, because we are recording in January. And
show? Are you keeping that name?
John Newport (02:25):
No, actually, we are going with a new company
Kathryn Daniels (02:44):
Well, that sounds super exciting. So I
said that there was a women'spickup artists community. Yes.
John Newport (03:07):
Well, the women's pickup artist community, you
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desperate, you get the S wordslapped upon you. And what
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ethical than what the guys aredoing.
Yeah. Sothere's really only two women
pickup artists that that I am
Kathryn Daniels (04:03):
Oh, interesting. Okay, so clearly, I
John Newport (04:08):
No, no, it's not to the degree that the that the
Kathryn Daniels (04:12):
Yeah. So when you say that they're, they're
John Newport (04:26):
It's more of showing them how to put the
proximity distance, and thenmaybe a light touch on the arm
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kind of just slightly hintingand hoping the guy gets the hint
Kathryn Daniels (05:22):
Right? So just cover all the bases here,
John Newport (05:30):
there's a lot that goes into this,
Kathryn Daniels (05:31):
right. So I know that one of the prop like,
John Newport (05:45):
Yeah, that's, that's where they're
Kathryn Daniels (05:56):
right? Is that a common problem that men have
John Newport (06:07):
a little bit, a lot of it is either they're
are, which helps them in findingout the type the personality
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misinterpreting stuff. They'remisinterpreting a woman being
Kathryn Daniels (07:05):
So I heard one time that the reason that men
friendzone. Because they don'tactually generally have
John Newport (07:32):
To a degree, but not I couldn't fully agree with
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indicators of interest. And Ijust flat out asked her, are you
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interesting problem, where I'm,I come off as being too good to
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telling somebody, I'mromantically interested in you,
Kathryn Daniels (08:52):
Right? Also, because I have put people
have for me, and then they can'tlet those go. Right. What What
John Newport (09:20):
for that one, I would say you have to, you need
entire time you're walking, it'slike walking on eggshells, you
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down to you Have to define whattype of relationship that we
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ask her for any more than whatshe is willing to offer.
Kathryn Daniels (10:27):
Right? So I'm still,
John Newport (10:30):
like, am I? Am I answering the question? Or am I
Kathryn Daniels (10:33):
No, no, you're not missing it. It's it's just
weren't willing to stop at thatboundary. And I know, from other
John Newport (11:02):
Yeah. So well, it comes from it comes from the
And, yeah, in the past, withcertain types of women, that
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the end, he gets the girl, andthen they live happily ever
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advice is, if you have somebodylike that, you have to have it,
Kathryn Daniels (12:25):
Yeah, I wind up just having to cut them off.
John Newport (12:28):
Yeah, yeah, it's kind of like little mosquito
Kathryn Daniels (12:35):
Right, exactly.
So I find it very interestingknow, doing our best to social
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distance and things like that.
John Newport (13:07):
Pretty much all of it
Kathryn Daniels (13:09):
from date of marriage? Yes. Yes.
John Newport (13:12):
Yeah, there's, yeah, we have the people that we
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numbers had greatly increased byalmost 1200 new people per
Kathryn Daniels (13:52):
to when you're down and not posting anything,
John Newport (13:57):
exactly how the numbers blew us. We were
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what they're trying to do. Andthey're going to Christmas
engaged. We're having here's thewedding announcements, and
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some kind of result, right? Buthere's a strategy, right? And if
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to show them who you are andwhat you offer.
Kathryn Daniels (15:29):
Yeah. So I just recently have been digging into
thing? Yeah.
Is that a thing? Like, is that athing, um,
John Newport (15:44):
the whole alpha beta thing. The first time I
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everybody else that's standingbehind him. That was an
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can become a leader. It's just,you have to put them in the
Kathryn Daniels (16:50):
Yeah, the research that I found had
It's just it's not a thing.
Which happens, you know?
John Newport (17:11):
Yeah. And it's, but it's already out there. And
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psychologies, well, psychology,social psychology sexology, all
Kathryn Daniels (17:50):
What was the title of that show for a list?
John Newport (17:53):
That was over Love is blind. Netflix series, we
Kathryn Daniels (18:07):
wow.
John Newport (18:09):
Then when they had the reunion episode, the
Kathryn Daniels (18:26):
Wait, what do you mean, like one of the
John Newport (18:30):
No, no, every couple that we that we said was
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got both of those before. Wedidn't even know that there was
Kathryn Daniels (19:09):
You should create an entire show around
John Newport (19:14):
we've, we've done some of the we've looked at that
Kathryn Daniels (19:26):
I only watched a couple of episodes of that one
John Newport (19:34):
Yeah, there was another dating episode dating
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sitting there and it it's like atrain wreck.
Kathryn Daniels (20:01):
Right?
John Newport (20:02):
I can't stand watching him. I'm like that he's
Kathryn Daniels (20:07):
All right. And you can't yell at her cuz she
John Newport (20:13):
or it was recorded a year ago.
Kathryn Daniels (20:17):
Also that,
John Newport (20:18):
yeah.
Kathryn Daniels (20:20):
So one of the things that we kind of talked
actually continue a healthyrelationship. Yes, I teach you
John Newport (20:42):
so much. Yeah. So
Kathryn Daniels (20:44):
what does a deeper connection exactly entail
John Newport (20:55):
No, actually, it's going even deeper than that.
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kind of throws them off, becauseit's not asked, but how do you
little things that you just youfind out after it's too late.
Kathryn Daniels (21:44):
Right? And then it's a huge blowout sometimes.
John Newport (21:59):
Yeah, put them under stress. Yeah, there's, um,
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do. Who are you? A lot ofpeople, they can't answer that
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do a whole, it's an optionalthing, we do a whole fashion
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personality, then they can lookat you and go, Oh, they're
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see, okay, their life is ratherput together. Everything
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should have been replaced 18years ago. It's just one of
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creepy or anything. Just thatthey can filter to find out if
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250 different types of questionsthey can ask, that actually will
Kathryn Daniels (25:07):
And they don't have to get into a game.
John Newport (25:10):
We've thought about it. But there's too many
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it doesn't work, it's notbecause of any kind of clashing
Kathryn Daniels (25:50):
Right? So during the pandemic, what kind
John Newport (25:59):
One of one of them is it, it's a outdoorsy type of
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things that were veryinteresting things that we
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afterwards, we're sitting there,we're laughing back and forth.
Kathryn Daniels (26:57):
Yeah. Or you can turn it into a competition
John Newport (27:02):
And that's, that's one of those other things that I
Kathryn Daniels (27:10):
So if they don't turn it into a race, do
John Newport (27:15):
No, actually, there's other traits that that
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that we talked, I only had 14,but I added a 15th. And that's
Kathryn Daniels (27:46):
And why did you add that?
John Newport (27:49):
It's one of the traits that is not ever
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if you look at go out and bringup any kind of list that is out
Kathryn Daniels (28:23):
no on my list.
I would certainly put though,
John Newport (28:35):
yeah. Patience is a big one for me, because I'm
Kathryn Daniels (28:40):
Mm hmm. That's a good one. So we were talking
John Newport (28:51):
Oh, actually, this will blow a lot of people away
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mean, we're not even talking bcwe're talking C, right. Exactly.
Kathryn Daniels (29:38):
Hmm.
So I wonder how long ago thatwhole elbow trick was conceived.
John Newport (29:45):
Oh, geez. I know about three elbow tricks you can
Kathryn Daniels (29:50):
I think it's the one with like the blind mice
John Newport (29:54):
Yeah. Yeah, that one. I'm trying to remember who,
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three blind mice. Yeah, thatone. It's been around for quite
Kathryn Daniels (30:34):
Trust me, I'm gonna give this episode to all
John Newport (30:39):
Well, that's, that's part of what our whole
Kathryn Daniels (30:45):
right? Yeah, cuz it's, it's not. People are
John Newport (30:55):
But we have examples that go back into the
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seducer written in 1903? So, Imean, it just keeps on going.
Kathryn Daniels (31:56):
that actually makes me wonder is is there a
John Newport (32:03):
They are starting?
There's, there's more out there?
Kathryn Daniels (32:20):
Yeah, I, I know that. Like, I think it's harder
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about, I guess, is that somepeople just genuinely are not
John Newport (33:04):
For myself? I will not. I will not risk my There's
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an action. Yeah. It took us theentire episode, that there was,
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deleting all of my r&b music,and I start throwing away all
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yourself up for failure. I mean,there's a difference between
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have been married for 15 1618years where It's very hard to
Kathryn Daniels (35:17):
So I was in a Are you on clubhouse by the way?
John Newport (35:21):
I haven't heard of it.
Kathryn Daniels (35:22):
Oh, so then you're not okay. Do you have an
John Newport (35:26):
No, I haven't switched over to Android. Right
Kathryn Daniels (35:34):
Oh, okay. So it's only available on Apple
other day was, if you're notready to be a servant, then
John Newport (35:54):
Oh, gosh. No. Oh, my God, upcoming episode that
Kathryn Daniels (36:01):
So except that I believe that, like, I'm not
have a desire to, like, dothings on a daily basis that
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when when you're married, andyour wife is pregnant, you will
John Newport (36:50):
that's, that's things. Yeah, that's being
Kathryn Daniels (36:53):
Right. So.
John Newport (36:55):
So maybe it was the wording that they use,
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it is, it's good karma out goodkarma back, I'm going to do this
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selfless. I'm not being aservant.
Kathryn Daniels (37:46):
So but that I don't know, maybe like, to me,
John Newport (37:52):
No transactional for us the way that we define
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It's kind of like the sugar babysugar, Daddy, sugar mama type
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about what what you need, whatyou desire, what you want. So,
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relationship. I know that's,that's what she wants in order
Kathryn Daniels (39:17):
Mm hmm. No, it does. Yeah, I think that that
John Newport (39:26):
Yeah. Women submit to your men.
Kathryn Daniels (39:29):
Right? Yeah, exactly.
John Newport (39:31):
I have. I have a hard time with that.
Kathryn Daniels (39:36):
I think most people do.
John Newport (39:39):
Yeah, I don't want somebody because I've, I've read
Kathryn Daniels (39:52):
right. You can't justify them with the
John Newport (39:56):
Yeah. So but when I looked at It and we actually
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rules again for you.
Kathryn Daniels (40:26):
Yes, that sounds like Scientology. Were
John Newport (40:31):
I'm not exactly sure. But it was it. The woman
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call them first. It was oh mygosh,
Kathryn Daniels (40:57):
that's like that book that we talked about
John Newport (41:02):
Oh, this was the female version. Yeah. It's
Kathryn Daniels (41:07):
just so awful and achy.
John Newport (41:10):
Yeah. And I was like, no more. How much more
Kathryn Daniels (41:27):
Right.
John Newport (41:29):
But yeah, we keep we, we did a we did an entire
Kathryn Daniels (41:41):
Out of burned it.
John Newport (41:42):
Yeah. It took us a while to find all of the rules,
Kathryn Daniels (41:55):
You probably will get a husband honey, but
John Newport (42:00):
Exactly. Because, I mean, there's no definition in
Kathryn Daniels (42:16):
Like, what if you meet them and the next day
Intro (42:23):
Okay.
John Newport (42:24):
Yeah. Or, I mean, the girl that I'm talking to, I
Kathryn Daniels (42:40):
So she's the quality time gal? Hey,
John Newport (42:42):
yes. We just feel that it's perfectly fine with me
Kathryn Daniels (42:49):
So do you use like, I mean, obviously, you use
John Newport (43:05):
No, not really. We don't, we don't do any kind of
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choosing that person for them.
So we don't we don't do that.
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discover who they are what'simportant for them. But we also
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it's called the Big Five. We'verun a version of that. There's
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their own personality and theirown character traits. Because we
immense amount. Stress, right?
So we separate those, and thenwill evolve. So we help them
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define that. And then we showlike, Do you like it? What?
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What? Why did you decide to buyI didn't even I hadn't even
finished doing my evaluation as
Kathryn Daniels (46:29):
I think it's just amazing what you can
John Newport (46:35):
And so many people, they, it's all about
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she's nothing more than armcandy. don't really care about
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seminars, and that's on theirmind. That's all they want. We
Kathryn Daniels (47:42):
Have you found that there's an age gap or
John Newport (47:56):
No, actually, it's a mixed bag. We have we have
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I was like, she's okay. Okay,dude, I understand. But that's
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There wasn't a whole lot of timefor us to really help him. Help
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fascinating,
Kathryn Daniels (49:19):
right? That's crazy. I I know that in like
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then you start thinking oh, wellhe's divorced three times. Like
John Newport (49:47):
Yeah, they have.
It is really a mixed bag most.
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up for a course unless they are18. Because we do get into some
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Yeah, the biggest, the biggestgroup that we have, as far as
relationship, we find some ofthe women that we work with,
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And it's sometimes we can't workwith them until we refer them to
Kathryn Daniels (51:30):
Right. It's hard to help with that when you
John Newport (51:34):
Yeah, I mean, I want to, I really do, but it's,
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there I've had, I'm actuallykind of getting a little bit
Kathryn Daniels (52:09):
Yeah, those are, those are really hard
John Newport (52:15):
Yeah, I'm actually just regain my composure.
Unknown (52:19):
I'm sorry. It's okay. I
Kathryn Daniels (52:20):
mean, to bring it all up.
John Newport (52:22):
It's okay. I mean, it's just this, it's very hard
Kathryn Daniels (52:45):
I heard you know, we all hear that. We have
because it implies that you haveto deny yourself that connection
John Newport (53:18):
Yeah, I mean, we travel in groups, we travel in
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the wrong clothes, you listen tothe wrong music, you like a
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hmm. You want to talk to thisperson. You want to ask him out.
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later. Everybody's making fun ofyou. Right? To a degree, I would
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would not shower for a couple ofdays. We wouldn't change our
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right. Right. They don't care.
There's too much other stuffwhatever. I mean, I've got a
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freckle or a mole or whatever it
Kathryn Daniels (55:45):
Exactly, yeah.
Someone who's interested in you
John Newport (55:57):
Yeah. And one of the challenges that I gave to a
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around your house naked. What Iwas like walk around your house
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solid black and kind of like amumu dress has curly. You look
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Nobody's gonna be pointing atyou. Right? You live on the
Kathryn Daniels (57:20):
Good. That's awesome. Yeah, I know a lot of
John Newport (57:32):
Yeah, and guys, it's the same thing.
Kathryn Daniels (57:35):
Yeah.
John Newport (57:35):
not strong enough.
They're not, we're not six feet,
Kathryn Daniels (57:47):
There is a guy on Tick Tock. his, his Tick Tock
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dedicated to women who love man,Bob's like, yeah, have you not
John Newport (58:15):
Yeah, cuz we, we take people through both men and
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morning and night. And hey,women, here you go. Here's the
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can actually enhance your ownnatural colors. And it's not
Kathryn Daniels (59:25):
Yeah. So one more question before we wrap up
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start. Yeah. So what is the themajor? What are the major things
John Newport (59:56):
Well, one I've actually already mentioned the
pump is a perfect example.
That's an interesting car. Whattopic to another. It's called a
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transition. Right? In like anwant to carry on a conversation
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with me?
Kathryn Daniels (01:01:03):
Who cares?
Right?
John Newport (01:01:05):
I didn't ask him out for a date. It's not a
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consideration, and it can reallydrastically drop the amount of
Kathryn Daniels (01:01:33):
So two things one, do you think it would be
comfortable with before theymove on? from that?
John Newport (01:01:53):
Actually, it's well for baby steps. I think the
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what I want you to do, I justwant you to go walk down this
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go ask him. Tell him Hi. Andthen asked him for the time.
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So he came in, and he washolding up a couple of shirts.
He wasn't even aware that he wasdoing it. And I started
Kathryn Daniels (01:03:31):
Right? Now.
That's a good way. So my mykill them. But by looking people
in the eyes just as you walkup your competence to asking
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people for their phone numbers
John Newport (01:04:13):
I wouldn't do that. No, the second part I want
Kathryn Daniels (01:04:23):
phone number.
John Newport (01:04:24):
Yeah. I'm courageous. I do a lot of weird
Kathryn Daniels (01:04:38):
could be misinterpreting it. Maybe it was
John Newport (01:04:45):
pickup artists.
That sounds pickup artists,
Kathryn Daniels (01:04:47):
right. But I think that this was more for or
John Newport (01:04:55):
Right? Okay, well, if it's business networking, I
Kathryn Daniels (01:05:03):
Well, I mean, even for like friendships for
John Newport (01:05:12):
Yeah, for personal goals, or as far as building
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dictionary, and that'sabsolutely no help. No. So what
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order to accomplish small goalsand gets a small success. So
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coffee line, or wherever, and Isee him ordering some kind of
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not coming over to beat me up.
Right, that's a win. Now, last
Kathryn Daniels (01:06:58):
you were injured.
John Newport (01:07:00):
Yeah, it was stage four, slap tear labrum tear. So
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And then I'll look at them. AndExcuse me, I now need the REAL
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that. It'll boost yourconfidence. If you're just
Kathryn Daniels (01:08:10):
right?
John Newport (01:08:12):
Now just get used to just talking to somebody
Kathryn Daniels (01:08:32):
Yeah, what you were saying earlier about
conversation with them. Yeah,not most of the time. But like,
John Newport (01:08:50):
Yeah, sometimes they're gonna look at you and
Kathryn Daniels (01:08:58):
assuming that's not happening, right. Yeah. But
John Newport (01:09:18):
it's being genuine. I mean, walk up, have,
Hollywood. Big deal. I'm notgoing to sit there and try to
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have the confidence to begenuine and authentic with the
Kathryn Daniels (01:10:22):
Right?
John Newport (01:10:26):
But I've, I've actually done that to two girls
Are you considering it? Right?
So where's the rejection? If
Intro (01:10:48):
Mm hmm.
John Newport (01:10:49):
And it's very, it's very, and it actually takes
Kathryn Daniels (01:11:04):
Now we sure don't like, even when you ask us
John Newport (01:11:12):
Yeah. Which is, which is tragic, because you
Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
Kathryn Daniels (01:11:21):
Yeah. And then that starts a whole slew of
John Newport (01:11:27):
Yeah.
Relationships are not easy. No.
Because if you're not drivingdeep, then that emotional
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And then you find out 3456months, or heaven forbid, 20
Kathryn Daniels (01:12:17):
That is the definition of waste my time.
John Newport (01:12:20):
Yeah. At or, even worse, you're just settling,
Kathryn Daniels (01:12:23):
right?
John Newport (01:12:25):
instead of actually going through and
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for that, well, the reasonsthere's a few things on there
Kathryn Daniels (01:13:18):
Yeah. Yeah.
Actually, in so many things,
John Newport (01:13:24):
We're just going through over like, what, there
seated, connect that deepconnection, it is absolutely
Kathryn Daniels (01:13:50):
right. That's that true love stuff people talk
John Newport (01:13:53):
It's possible. You can't manufacture it though. Oh,
Kathryn Daniels (01:14:10):
Right? There is a dating guru out there right
John Newport (01:14:17):
Yes. I'm familiar with Matthew Hussey Yes.
Kathryn Daniels (01:14:22):
What's your opinion on him?
John Newport (01:14:25):
Well, if you go and sit through one of the
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That's the part that's notexplained. Right. The vast
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Okay, if you do that, here's theother results that could take
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we're not going to force anybodyto do it. Like we said, we have,
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mean, what do you want to build?
So, but what they're doing is
Kathryn Daniels (01:16:06):
yeah, he's a really great public speaker. I
John Newport (01:16:10):
it's good motivational speaker super.
Kathryn Daniels (01:16:12):
Yeah, he's good. Yeah.
John Newport (01:16:14):
We're not, we're not about trying to build
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to cargo shorts have got to goalong with the sandals.
Kathryn Daniels (01:16:39):
And the socks, homie.
John Newport (01:16:41):
Yeah. Yeah. But it was even worse. It was brown
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dressing and how you wereacting? Because he's just like,
from you as their. So if you'renot willing to do what I'm
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here's $1,000 audio course thatwill put you in the proper frame
Kathryn Daniels (01:18:01):
Oh, of course.
John Newport (01:18:02):
Yeah. Good. We did have one of those. She charged
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And then there's a breakoutgroup. Those are 20 $300 pace.
Kathryn Daniels (01:18:38):
Yeah, it makes me I don't I it makes me so
John Newport (01:18:52):
Yeah. I mean are.
We just recently redesigned all
Kathryn Daniels (01:19:10):
Well, but that's not 120,000.
John Newport (01:19:13):
Yeah. Now our full blown one is 15,000 but we fly
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entire weekend. Friday, SaturdaySunday. airfare is paid for
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bottle service, dancing. It is acelebration. And we have these
and work with them one on onethe entire weekend. No other
Kathryn Daniels (01:20:35):
Right? Feel good?
Intro (01:20:36):
Yeah.
John Newport (01:20:38):
Exactly.
Kathryn Daniels (01:20:39):
Um, are you guys gonna do you guys should do
John Newport (01:20:45):
We do have a lot of married married people that
Kathryn Daniels (01:20:49):
Like I want to go,
John Newport (01:20:51):
there's a art show that we had on kissing. We have
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went, I just took a bunch ofcourses, right? But just, it's
(01:21:43):
grand finale, which is the fulltongue and everything, right.
(01:22:10):
actually saved it. But a simplesingle technique, knife, do what
Kathryn Daniels (01:22:25):
Right. Yeah, people get told that all the
John Newport (01:22:38):
Yeah. And part of part of what we've done, or part
(01:23:04):
for so long? And they told mepretty much their entire seek
(01:23:26):
have rejected him. But he caughtit. He's the one I wanted. This,
Kathryn Daniels (01:23:34):
And you have a story.
John Newport (01:23:37):
Oh, there's all kinds of I mean, I, I have all
(01:23:59):
that we have. Right. And it itworks for me, it works for my co
Kathryn Daniels (01:24:23):
for a long term, right?
John Newport (01:24:24):
Yeah, it doesn't work long term, you're going to
(01:24:48):
those of us that are actuallygenuine that actually wants
Kathryn Daniels (01:25:15):
And they were too guarded. Yes. And you can
competence.
John Newport (01:25:33):
Yeah, superficial relationships. That's where I
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the superficial stuff. For theguys. He he has the triangular
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control, check auto lights,check. I mean, that's kind of
traits are not there. That's whywe reverse that. We go character
(01:27:03):
You need these other two traits.
And then I have some they're,
Kathryn Daniels (01:27:17):
Right.
John Newport (01:27:19):
Then I have some and I it's not the icing on the
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have. But they're negotiable.
That I have the last few and
Kathryn Daniels (01:28:09):
are there even that many traits and human like,
John Newport (01:28:14):
Yeah. I was like, I don't know what kind of
Kathryn Daniels (01:28:38):
It's so hard. I am on Tick Tock. There's like a
to. And keep their ears perkedup about and try to do better?
John Newport (01:29:01):
Yeah, well, it's the problem that we've seen
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actually got sued by the FCC fornot deleting accounts that were
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Well, now it's it's the onlything that they've got.
Intro (01:29:51):
Yeah.
Kathryn Daniels (01:29:53):
Now everybody is like the pandemic I'll take
John Newport (01:30:00):
Just please look at me, right? The mask. But
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right. And an interesting thingthat we're also seeing happen is
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kidding. tired of waiting.
Right? Yeah. So they're, anddo a 5050. Man.
Kathryn Daniels (01:31:13):
Yep. Meet her halfway.
John Newport (01:31:15):
Yeah. Because either one, either she's gonna
Kathryn Daniels (01:31:24):
thank you so much for coming back on. And I'm
John Newport (01:31:34):
as well, they don't have to hire us. Okay,
just do a quick overview. Ifthey want, they can actually
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that's how I view it. Like Isaid, my integrity, is it. My
Kathryn Daniels (01:32:25):
And I doubt it's all you have if you're too
John Newport (01:32:30):
My co host keeps saying the same thing. Right.
Kathryn Daniels (01:32:34):
clearly, that's not entirely true, sir.
John Newport (01:32:38):
But it's something that I don't want to take
Kathryn Daniels (01:32:50):
Yeah, I just went on there and found like all
John Newport (01:32:55):
Yeah, it's that we're now into our third season.
Kathryn Daniels (01:33:03):
Nice. All right. Well, thank you so much
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Welcome to the teachable soul podcast, I am
artists, feel free to go backand do that. You can pause now
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pickup artists community, andthen along the way sort of
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and actual connection andintimacy. And kind of like a
John Newport (01:26):
How are you? I'm doing great. Thank you for
Kathryn Daniels (01:30):
Absolutely.
Thank you so much for being
John Newport (01:43):
Yeah, we are due to listener demand put on us. So
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releases,
Kathryn Daniels (02:07):
right, because we are recording in January. And
show? Are you keeping that name?
John Newport (02:25):
No, actually, we are going with a new company
Kathryn Daniels (02:44):
Well, that sounds super exciting. So I
said that there was a women'spickup artists community. Yes.
John Newport (03:07):
Well, the women's pickup artist community, you
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desperate, you get the S wordslapped upon you. And what
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ethical than what the guys aredoing.
Yeah. Sothere's really only two women
pickup artists that that I am
Kathryn Daniels (04:03):
Oh, interesting. Okay, so clearly, I
John Newport (04:08):
No, no, it's not to the degree that the that the
Kathryn Daniels (04:12):
Yeah. So when you say that they're, they're
John Newport (04:26):
It's more of showing them how to put the
proximity distance, and thenmaybe a light touch on the arm
(05:08):
kind of just slightly hintingand hoping the guy gets the hint
Kathryn Daniels (05:22):
Right? So just cover all the bases here,
John Newport (05:30):
there's a lot that goes into this,
Kathryn Daniels (05:31):
right. So I know that one of the prop like,
John Newport (05:45):
Yeah, that's, that's where they're
Kathryn Daniels (05:56):
right? Is that a common problem that men have
John Newport (06:07):
a little bit, a lot of it is either they're
are, which helps them in findingout the type the personality
(06:54):
misinterpreting stuff. They'remisinterpreting a woman being
Kathryn Daniels (07:05):
So I heard one time that the reason that men
friendzone. Because they don'tactually generally have
John Newport (07:32):
To a degree, but not I couldn't fully agree with
(07:53):
indicators of interest. And Ijust flat out asked her, are you
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interesting problem, where I'm,I come off as being too good to
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telling somebody, I'mromantically interested in you,
Kathryn Daniels (08:52):
Right? Also, because I have put people
have for me, and then they can'tlet those go. Right. What What
John Newport (09:20):
for that one, I would say you have to, you need
entire time you're walking, it'slike walking on eggshells, you
(09:59):
down to you Have to define whattype of relationship that we
(10:24):
ask her for any more than whatshe is willing to offer.
Kathryn Daniels (10:27):
Right? So I'm still,
John Newport (10:30):
like, am I? Am I answering the question? Or am I
Kathryn Daniels (10:33):
No, no, you're not missing it. It's it's just
weren't willing to stop at thatboundary. And I know, from other
John Newport (11:02):
Yeah. So well, it comes from it comes from the
And, yeah, in the past, withcertain types of women, that
(11:45):
the end, he gets the girl, andthen they live happily ever
(12:11):
advice is, if you have somebodylike that, you have to have it,
Kathryn Daniels (12:25):
Yeah, I wind up just having to cut them off.
John Newport (12:28):
Yeah, yeah, it's kind of like little mosquito
Kathryn Daniels (12:35):
Right, exactly.
So I find it very interestingknow, doing our best to social
(12:56):
distance and things like that.
John Newport (13:07):
Pretty much all of it
Kathryn Daniels (13:09):
from date of marriage? Yes. Yes.
John Newport (13:12):
Yeah, there's, yeah, we have the people that we
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numbers had greatly increased byalmost 1200 new people per
Kathryn Daniels (13:52):
to when you're down and not posting anything,
John Newport (13:57):
exactly how the numbers blew us. We were
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what they're trying to do. Andthey're going to Christmas
engaged. We're having here's thewedding announcements, and
(15:00):
some kind of result, right? Buthere's a strategy, right? And if
(15:25):
to show them who you are andwhat you offer.
Kathryn Daniels (15:29):
Yeah. So I just recently have been digging into
thing? Yeah.
Is that a thing? Like, is that athing, um,
John Newport (15:44):
the whole alpha beta thing. The first time I
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everybody else that's standingbehind him. That was an
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can become a leader. It's just,you have to put them in the
Kathryn Daniels (16:50):
Yeah, the research that I found had
It's just it's not a thing.
Which happens, you know?
John Newport (17:11):
Yeah. And it's, but it's already out there. And
(17:34):
psychologies, well, psychology,social psychology sexology, all
Kathryn Daniels (17:50):
What was the title of that show for a list?
John Newport (17:53):
That was over Love is blind. Netflix series, we
Kathryn Daniels (18:07):
wow.
John Newport (18:09):
Then when they had the reunion episode, the
Kathryn Daniels (18:26):
Wait, what do you mean, like one of the
John Newport (18:30):
No, no, every couple that we that we said was
(18:52):
got both of those before. Wedidn't even know that there was
Kathryn Daniels (19:09):
You should create an entire show around
John Newport (19:14):
we've, we've done some of the we've looked at that
Kathryn Daniels (19:26):
I only watched a couple of episodes of that one
John Newport (19:34):
Yeah, there was another dating episode dating
(19:57):
sitting there and it it's like atrain wreck.
Kathryn Daniels (20:01):
Right?
John Newport (20:02):
I can't stand watching him. I'm like that he's
Kathryn Daniels (20:07):
All right. And you can't yell at her cuz she
John Newport (20:13):
or it was recorded a year ago.
Kathryn Daniels (20:17):
Also that,
John Newport (20:18):
yeah.
Kathryn Daniels (20:20):
So one of the things that we kind of talked
actually continue a healthyrelationship. Yes, I teach you
John Newport (20:42):
so much. Yeah. So
Kathryn Daniels (20:44):
what does a deeper connection exactly entail
John Newport (20:55):
No, actually, it's going even deeper than that.
(21:20):
kind of throws them off, becauseit's not asked, but how do you
little things that you just youfind out after it's too late.
Kathryn Daniels (21:44):
Right? And then it's a huge blowout sometimes.
John Newport (21:59):
Yeah, put them under stress. Yeah, there's, um,
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do. Who are you? A lot ofpeople, they can't answer that
(22:47):
do a whole, it's an optionalthing, we do a whole fashion
(23:10):
personality, then they can lookat you and go, Oh, they're
(23:34):
see, okay, their life is ratherput together. Everything
(23:57):
should have been replaced 18years ago. It's just one of
(24:23):
creepy or anything. Just thatthey can filter to find out if
(24:49):
250 different types of questionsthey can ask, that actually will
Kathryn Daniels (25:07):
And they don't have to get into a game.
John Newport (25:10):
We've thought about it. But there's too many
(25:32):
it doesn't work, it's notbecause of any kind of clashing
Kathryn Daniels (25:50):
Right? So during the pandemic, what kind
John Newport (25:59):
One of one of them is it, it's a outdoorsy type of
(26:24):
things that were veryinteresting things that we
(26:45):
afterwards, we're sitting there,we're laughing back and forth.
Kathryn Daniels (26:57):
Yeah. Or you can turn it into a competition
John Newport (27:02):
And that's, that's one of those other things that I
Kathryn Daniels (27:10):
So if they don't turn it into a race, do
John Newport (27:15):
No, actually, there's other traits that that
(27:38):
that we talked, I only had 14,but I added a 15th. And that's
Kathryn Daniels (27:46):
And why did you add that?
John Newport (27:49):
It's one of the traits that is not ever
(28:10):
if you look at go out and bringup any kind of list that is out
Kathryn Daniels (28:23):
no on my list.
I would certainly put though,
John Newport (28:35):
yeah. Patience is a big one for me, because I'm
Kathryn Daniels (28:40):
Mm hmm. That's a good one. So we were talking
John Newport (28:51):
Oh, actually, this will blow a lot of people away
(29:19):
mean, we're not even talking bcwe're talking C, right. Exactly.
Kathryn Daniels (29:38):
Hmm.
So I wonder how long ago thatwhole elbow trick was conceived.
John Newport (29:45):
Oh, geez. I know about three elbow tricks you can
Kathryn Daniels (29:50):
I think it's the one with like the blind mice
John Newport (29:54):
Yeah. Yeah, that one. I'm trying to remember who,
(30:21):
three blind mice. Yeah, thatone. It's been around for quite
Kathryn Daniels (30:34):
Trust me, I'm gonna give this episode to all
John Newport (30:39):
Well, that's, that's part of what our whole
Kathryn Daniels (30:45):
right? Yeah, cuz it's, it's not. People are
John Newport (30:55):
But we have examples that go back into the
(31:24):
seducer written in 1903? So, Imean, it just keeps on going.
Kathryn Daniels (31:56):
that actually makes me wonder is is there a
John Newport (32:03):
They are starting?
There's, there's more out there?
Kathryn Daniels (32:20):
Yeah, I, I know that. Like, I think it's harder
(32:43):
about, I guess, is that somepeople just genuinely are not
John Newport (33:04):
For myself? I will not. I will not risk my There's
(33:34):
an action. Yeah. It took us theentire episode, that there was,
(34:01):
deleting all of my r&b music,and I start throwing away all
(34:26):
yourself up for failure. I mean,there's a difference between
(34:54):
have been married for 15 1618years where It's very hard to
Kathryn Daniels (35:17):
So I was in a Are you on clubhouse by the way?
John Newport (35:21):
I haven't heard of it.
Kathryn Daniels (35:22):
Oh, so then you're not okay. Do you have an
John Newport (35:26):
No, I haven't switched over to Android. Right
Kathryn Daniels (35:34):
Oh, okay. So it's only available on Apple
other day was, if you're notready to be a servant, then
John Newport (35:54):
Oh, gosh. No. Oh, my God, upcoming episode that
Kathryn Daniels (36:01):
So except that I believe that, like, I'm not
have a desire to, like, dothings on a daily basis that
(36:38):
when when you're married, andyour wife is pregnant, you will
John Newport (36:50):
that's, that's things. Yeah, that's being
Kathryn Daniels (36:53):
Right. So.
John Newport (36:55):
So maybe it was the wording that they use,
(37:19):
it is, it's good karma out goodkarma back, I'm going to do this
(37:44):
selfless. I'm not being aservant.
Kathryn Daniels (37:46):
So but that I don't know, maybe like, to me,
John Newport (37:52):
No transactional for us the way that we define
(38:15):
It's kind of like the sugar babysugar, Daddy, sugar mama type
(38:42):
about what what you need, whatyou desire, what you want. So,
(39:06):
relationship. I know that's,that's what she wants in order
Kathryn Daniels (39:17):
Mm hmm. No, it does. Yeah, I think that that
John Newport (39:26):
Yeah. Women submit to your men.
Kathryn Daniels (39:29):
Right? Yeah, exactly.
John Newport (39:31):
I have. I have a hard time with that.
Kathryn Daniels (39:36):
I think most people do.
John Newport (39:39):
Yeah, I don't want somebody because I've, I've read
Kathryn Daniels (39:52):
right. You can't justify them with the
John Newport (39:56):
Yeah. So but when I looked at It and we actually
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rules again for you.
Kathryn Daniels (40:26):
Yes, that sounds like Scientology. Were
John Newport (40:31):
I'm not exactly sure. But it was it. The woman
(40:53):
call them first. It was oh mygosh,
Kathryn Daniels (40:57):
that's like that book that we talked about
John Newport (41:02):
Oh, this was the female version. Yeah. It's
Kathryn Daniels (41:07):
just so awful and achy.
John Newport (41:10):
Yeah. And I was like, no more. How much more
Kathryn Daniels (41:27):
Right.
John Newport (41:29):
But yeah, we keep we, we did a we did an entire
Kathryn Daniels (41:41):
Out of burned it.
John Newport (41:42):
Yeah. It took us a while to find all of the rules,
Kathryn Daniels (41:55):
You probably will get a husband honey, but
John Newport (42:00):
Exactly. Because, I mean, there's no definition in
Kathryn Daniels (42:16):
Like, what if you meet them and the next day
Intro (42:23):
Okay.
John Newport (42:24):
Yeah. Or, I mean, the girl that I'm talking to, I
Kathryn Daniels (42:40):
So she's the quality time gal? Hey,
John Newport (42:42):
yes. We just feel that it's perfectly fine with me
Kathryn Daniels (42:49):
So do you use like, I mean, obviously, you use
John Newport (43:05):
No, not really. We don't, we don't do any kind of
(43:26):
choosing that person for them.
So we don't we don't do that.
(43:52):
discover who they are what'simportant for them. But we also
(44:14):
it's called the Big Five. We'verun a version of that. There's
(44:42):
their own personality and theirown character traits. Because we
immense amount. Stress, right?
So we separate those, and thenwill evolve. So we help them
(45:23):
define that. And then we showlike, Do you like it? What?
(45:50):
What? Why did you decide to buyI didn't even I hadn't even
finished doing my evaluation as
Kathryn Daniels (46:29):
I think it's just amazing what you can
John Newport (46:35):
And so many people, they, it's all about
(46:58):
she's nothing more than armcandy. don't really care about
(47:19):
seminars, and that's on theirmind. That's all they want. We
Kathryn Daniels (47:42):
Have you found that there's an age gap or
John Newport (47:56):
No, actually, it's a mixed bag. We have we have
(48:27):
I was like, she's okay. Okay,dude, I understand. But that's
(48:56):
There wasn't a whole lot of timefor us to really help him. Help
(49:18):
fascinating,
Kathryn Daniels (49:19):
right? That's crazy. I I know that in like
(49:39):
then you start thinking oh, wellhe's divorced three times. Like
John Newport (49:47):
Yeah, they have.
It is really a mixed bag most.
(50:08):
up for a course unless they are18. Because we do get into some
(50:35):
Yeah, the biggest, the biggestgroup that we have, as far as
relationship, we find some ofthe women that we work with,
(51:20):
And it's sometimes we can't workwith them until we refer them to
Kathryn Daniels (51:30):
Right. It's hard to help with that when you
John Newport (51:34):
Yeah, I mean, I want to, I really do, but it's,
(52:03):
there I've had, I'm actuallykind of getting a little bit
Kathryn Daniels (52:09):
Yeah, those are, those are really hard
John Newport (52:15):
Yeah, I'm actually just regain my composure.
Unknown (52:19):
I'm sorry. It's okay. I
Kathryn Daniels (52:20):
mean, to bring it all up.
John Newport (52:22):
It's okay. I mean, it's just this, it's very hard
Kathryn Daniels (52:45):
I heard you know, we all hear that. We have
because it implies that you haveto deny yourself that connection
John Newport (53:18):
Yeah, I mean, we travel in groups, we travel in
(53:39):
the wrong clothes, you listen tothe wrong music, you like a
(53:59):
hmm. You want to talk to thisperson. You want to ask him out.
(54:19):
later. Everybody's making fun ofyou. Right? To a degree, I would
(54:45):
would not shower for a couple ofdays. We wouldn't change our
(55:07):
right. Right. They don't care.
There's too much other stuffwhatever. I mean, I've got a
(55:30):
freckle or a mole or whatever it
Kathryn Daniels (55:45):
Exactly, yeah.
Someone who's interested in you
John Newport (55:57):
Yeah. And one of the challenges that I gave to a
(56:19):
around your house naked. What Iwas like walk around your house
(56:40):
solid black and kind of like amumu dress has curly. You look
(57:07):
Nobody's gonna be pointing atyou. Right? You live on the
Kathryn Daniels (57:20):
Good. That's awesome. Yeah, I know a lot of
John Newport (57:32):
Yeah, and guys, it's the same thing.
Kathryn Daniels (57:35):
Yeah.
John Newport (57:35):
not strong enough.
They're not, we're not six feet,
Kathryn Daniels (57:47):
There is a guy on Tick Tock. his, his Tick Tock
(58:07):
dedicated to women who love man,Bob's like, yeah, have you not
John Newport (58:15):
Yeah, cuz we, we take people through both men and
(58:40):
morning and night. And hey,women, here you go. Here's the
(59:06):
can actually enhance your ownnatural colors. And it's not
Kathryn Daniels (59:25):
Yeah. So one more question before we wrap up
(59:45):
start. Yeah. So what is the themajor? What are the major things
John Newport (59:56):
Well, one I've actually already mentioned the
pump is a perfect example.
That's an interesting car. Whattopic to another. It's called a
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transition. Right? In like anwant to carry on a conversation
(01:01:00):
with me?
Kathryn Daniels (01:01:03):
Who cares?
Right?
John Newport (01:01:05):
I didn't ask him out for a date. It's not a
(01:01:27):
consideration, and it can reallydrastically drop the amount of
Kathryn Daniels (01:01:33):
So two things one, do you think it would be
comfortable with before theymove on? from that?
John Newport (01:01:53):
Actually, it's well for baby steps. I think the
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what I want you to do, I justwant you to go walk down this
(01:02:39):
go ask him. Tell him Hi. Andthen asked him for the time.
(01:03:03):
So he came in, and he washolding up a couple of shirts.
He wasn't even aware that he wasdoing it. And I started
Kathryn Daniels (01:03:31):
Right? Now.
That's a good way. So my mykill them. But by looking people
in the eyes just as you walkup your competence to asking
(01:04:09):
people for their phone numbers
John Newport (01:04:13):
I wouldn't do that. No, the second part I want
Kathryn Daniels (01:04:23):
phone number.
John Newport (01:04:24):
Yeah. I'm courageous. I do a lot of weird
Kathryn Daniels (01:04:38):
could be misinterpreting it. Maybe it was
John Newport (01:04:45):
pickup artists.
That sounds pickup artists,
Kathryn Daniels (01:04:47):
right. But I think that this was more for or
John Newport (01:04:55):
Right? Okay, well, if it's business networking, I
Kathryn Daniels (01:05:03):
Well, I mean, even for like friendships for
John Newport (01:05:12):
Yeah, for personal goals, or as far as building
(01:05:33):
dictionary, and that'sabsolutely no help. No. So what
(01:05:53):
order to accomplish small goalsand gets a small success. So
(01:06:18):
coffee line, or wherever, and Isee him ordering some kind of
(01:06:41):
not coming over to beat me up.
Right, that's a win. Now, last
Kathryn Daniels (01:06:58):
you were injured.
John Newport (01:07:00):
Yeah, it was stage four, slap tear labrum tear. So
(01:07:25):
And then I'll look at them. AndExcuse me, I now need the REAL
(01:07:52):
that. It'll boost yourconfidence. If you're just
Kathryn Daniels (01:08:10):
right?
John Newport (01:08:12):
Now just get used to just talking to somebody
Kathryn Daniels (01:08:32):
Yeah, what you were saying earlier about
conversation with them. Yeah,not most of the time. But like,
John Newport (01:08:50):
Yeah, sometimes they're gonna look at you and
Kathryn Daniels (01:08:58):
assuming that's not happening, right. Yeah. But
John Newport (01:09:18):
it's being genuine. I mean, walk up, have,
Hollywood. Big deal. I'm notgoing to sit there and try to
(01:09:56):
have the confidence to begenuine and authentic with the
Kathryn Daniels (01:10:22):
Right?
John Newport (01:10:26):
But I've, I've actually done that to two girls
Are you considering it? Right?
So where's the rejection? If
Intro (01:10:48):
Mm hmm.
John Newport (01:10:49):
And it's very, it's very, and it actually takes
Kathryn Daniels (01:11:04):
Now we sure don't like, even when you ask us
John Newport (01:11:12):
Yeah. Which is, which is tragic, because you
Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
Kathryn Daniels (01:11:21):
Yeah. And then that starts a whole slew of
John Newport (01:11:27):
Yeah.
Relationships are not easy. No.
Because if you're not drivingdeep, then that emotional
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And then you find out 3456months, or heaven forbid, 20
Kathryn Daniels (01:12:17):
That is the definition of waste my time.
John Newport (01:12:20):
Yeah. At or, even worse, you're just settling,
Kathryn Daniels (01:12:23):
right?
John Newport (01:12:25):
instead of actually going through and
(01:12:50):
for that, well, the reasonsthere's a few things on there
Kathryn Daniels (01:13:18):
Yeah. Yeah.
Actually, in so many things,
John Newport (01:13:24):
We're just going through over like, what, there
seated, connect that deepconnection, it is absolutely
Kathryn Daniels (01:13:50):
right. That's that true love stuff people talk
John Newport (01:13:53):
It's possible. You can't manufacture it though. Oh,
Kathryn Daniels (01:14:10):
Right? There is a dating guru out there right
John Newport (01:14:17):
Yes. I'm familiar with Matthew Hussey Yes.
Kathryn Daniels (01:14:22):
What's your opinion on him?
John Newport (01:14:25):
Well, if you go and sit through one of the
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That's the part that's notexplained. Right. The vast
(01:15:06):
Okay, if you do that, here's theother results that could take
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we're not going to force anybodyto do it. Like we said, we have,
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mean, what do you want to build?
So, but what they're doing is
Kathryn Daniels (01:16:06):
yeah, he's a really great public speaker. I
John Newport (01:16:10):
it's good motivational speaker super.
Kathryn Daniels (01:16:12):
Yeah, he's good. Yeah.
John Newport (01:16:14):
We're not, we're not about trying to build
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to cargo shorts have got to goalong with the sandals.
Kathryn Daniels (01:16:39):
And the socks, homie.
John Newport (01:16:41):
Yeah. Yeah. But it was even worse. It was brown
(01:17:11):
dressing and how you wereacting? Because he's just like,
from you as their. So if you'renot willing to do what I'm
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here's $1,000 audio course thatwill put you in the proper frame
Kathryn Daniels (01:18:01):
Oh, of course.
John Newport (01:18:02):
Yeah. Good. We did have one of those. She charged
(01:18:31):
And then there's a breakoutgroup. Those are 20 $300 pace.
Kathryn Daniels (01:18:38):
Yeah, it makes me I don't I it makes me so
John Newport (01:18:52):
Yeah. I mean are.
We just recently redesigned all
Kathryn Daniels (01:19:10):
Well, but that's not 120,000.
John Newport (01:19:13):
Yeah. Now our full blown one is 15,000 but we fly
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entire weekend. Friday, SaturdaySunday. airfare is paid for
(01:20:02):
bottle service, dancing. It is acelebration. And we have these
and work with them one on onethe entire weekend. No other
Kathryn Daniels (01:20:35):
Right? Feel good?
Intro (01:20:36):
Yeah.
John Newport (01:20:38):
Exactly.
Kathryn Daniels (01:20:39):
Um, are you guys gonna do you guys should do
John Newport (01:20:45):
We do have a lot of married married people that
Kathryn Daniels (01:20:49):
Like I want to go,
John Newport (01:20:51):
there's a art show that we had on kissing. We have
(01:21:14):
went, I just took a bunch ofcourses, right? But just, it's
(01:21:43):
grand finale, which is the fulltongue and everything, right.
(01:22:10):
actually saved it. But a simplesingle technique, knife, do what
Kathryn Daniels (01:22:25):
Right. Yeah, people get told that all the
John Newport (01:22:38):
Yeah. And part of part of what we've done, or part
(01:23:04):
for so long? And they told mepretty much their entire seek
(01:23:26):
have rejected him. But he caughtit. He's the one I wanted. This,
Kathryn Daniels (01:23:34):
And you have a story.
John Newport (01:23:37):
Oh, there's all kinds of I mean, I, I have all
(01:23:59):
that we have. Right. And it itworks for me, it works for my co
Kathryn Daniels (01:24:23):
for a long term, right?
John Newport (01:24:24):
Yeah, it doesn't work long term, you're going to
(01:24:48):
those of us that are actuallygenuine that actually wants
Kathryn Daniels (01:25:15):
And they were too guarded. Yes. And you can
competence.
John Newport (01:25:33):
Yeah, superficial relationships. That's where I
(01:25:54):
the superficial stuff. For theguys. He he has the triangular
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control, check auto lights,check. I mean, that's kind of
traits are not there. That's whywe reverse that. We go character
(01:27:03):
You need these other two traits.
And then I have some they're,
Kathryn Daniels (01:27:17):
Right.
John Newport (01:27:19):
Then I have some and I it's not the icing on the
(01:27:44):
have. But they're negotiable.
That I have the last few and
Kathryn Daniels (01:28:09):
are there even that many traits and human like,
John Newport (01:28:14):
Yeah. I was like, I don't know what kind of
Kathryn Daniels (01:28:38):
It's so hard. I am on Tick Tock. There's like a
to. And keep their ears perkedup about and try to do better?
John Newport (01:29:01):
Yeah, well, it's the problem that we've seen
(01:29:22):
actually got sued by the FCC fornot deleting accounts that were
(01:29:48):
Well, now it's it's the onlything that they've got.
Intro (01:29:51):
Yeah.
Kathryn Daniels (01:29:53):
Now everybody is like the pandemic I'll take
John Newport (01:30:00):
Just please look at me, right? The mask. But
(01:30:25):
right. And an interesting thingthat we're also seeing happen is
(01:30:48):
kidding. tired of waiting.
Right? Yeah. So they're, anddo a 5050. Man.
Kathryn Daniels (01:31:13):
Yep. Meet her halfway.
John Newport (01:31:15):
Yeah. Because either one, either she's gonna
Kathryn Daniels (01:31:24):
thank you so much for coming back on. And I'm
John Newport (01:31:34):
as well, they don't have to hire us. Okay,
just do a quick overview. Ifthey want, they can actually
(01:32:16):
that's how I view it. Like Isaid, my integrity, is it. My
Kathryn Daniels (01:32:25):
And I doubt it's all you have if you're too
John Newport (01:32:30):
My co host keeps saying the same thing. Right.
Kathryn Daniels (01:32:34):
clearly, that's not entirely true, sir.
John Newport (01:32:38):
But it's something that I don't want to take
Kathryn Daniels (01:32:50):
Yeah, I just went on there and found like all
John Newport (01:32:55):
Yeah, it's that we're now into our third season.
Kathryn Daniels (01:33:03):
Nice. All right. Well, thank you so much
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