March 3, 2025 • 40 mins
Step into the future of blockchain as we explore innovative concepts discussed at ETH Denver, where exciting trends like D-PIN (Decentralized Physical Infrastructure Networks) and AI agents are taking center stage. D-PIN is reshaping how we view traditional infrastructures and proposes an ecosystem where individuals can contribute physical resources, creating decentralized networks that reward and empower participants. This revolutionary approach is anticipated to redefine how we utilize technologies in our daily lives.
On the other hand, the advent of AI agents is escalating the debate over automation's role in business. Are they here to enhance human roles or replace them? We delve into how these agents can optimize customer service and automate essential operations, freeing up valuable time and resources for businesses. The discussions at ETH Denver emphasized the critical nature of automation and how businesses can leverage these tools for greater productivity and customer satisfaction.
Furthermore, we discuss the emerging need for Proof of Humanity, a mechanism that utilizes biometrics for verification, ensuring a balance between privacy and identity validation. In a world where maintaining anonymity can be vital, this technology comes as a promising advancement for the crypto community.
As digital identity gains more importance in the blockchain realm, each user and application will necessitate clear naming conventions. The episode emphasizes that as digital identities and infrastructures converge, names will be foundational for future interactions.
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Speaker 2 (00:55):
Thank you, hello, hello and good morning.
Going to get started here injust a second Posted one of the
things we're going to talk aboutat the top of the space.
I might actually post somethingelse, but yeah, hopefully you
guys can hear me that I'mclearing.
Uh, getting to this tech talkin just a second literally only
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Yeah, as always, ask if youcould like retweet the spaces.
If you have anything that youwant to add to the conversation,
feel free to hop up on stage orrequest a speaker role.
But yeah, this one's designedto be pretty quick.
As you can see in the title.
I am here in Denver live.
It is an hour earlier for methan it usually is, so it is 530
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in the morning definitely veryearly, but wouldn't want to do
it doing or wouldn't spend itdoing anything but talking about
what I'm bullish on, as istypical.
Just have some super quickopening news I want to open up
with before I get into the maindiscussion.
The first piece of opening newsis what's pinned up at the top.
If you have not heard already,3d just launched their
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partnership with Chili's, whichis a sports-based blockchain.
You can feel free to followthat announcement or follow
Chili's directly.
They have almost a half amillion followers, so a pretty
big platform.
A couple of things that I'mexcited about in this
partnership, and so the TLD thatthey've partnered with is the
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CHC TLD, so anyone who's bullishon the or connected to the
Chili's community or just wantsa cool domain name can go to
freenameio right now and commityour favorite CHC.
I know we have the standardfreename coupons out.
I don't know if Chili's has anyopening coupons or introductory
coupons, but they do have somespecials for their current
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community.
I believe if you're one oftheir token holders, you may get
your domain for free.
It may even be free for anumber of years, and that's one
of the biggest parts of thispartnership that I wanted to
highlight is that thispartnership with Chili's
actually brought forth a newutility in the Freename
ecosystem, and that is thatChili's and their CHC TLD is the
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first TLD to offer or to havethe renewal feature enabled.
For those of you who arefamiliar with the free name
ecosystem, you know one of thebiggest selling points and will
always be one of the biggestselling points is that if you
become a customer or investor offree name, if you purchase a
TLD, that TLD is yours, free andclear.
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There are never any otherreason.
You also you know kind ofstandard practice you have the
ability to issue them also inthe same fashion, which is
forever, no renewals, et cetera.
This is a big benefit, right?
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You know almost every othernaming protocol in the ecosystem
has renewals to some extent,and we know of one that does it,
but, trust me, they get theirmoney in other ways, and so it's
been a big selling point, andthat feature is something that
we'll still always be proud ofand will be one of the core
features and benefits to any TLDholder here at Freename.
However, the reason why I'msuper bullish on this, though,
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and so, again, if you're a TLDowner on Freename, this option,
once it becomes live it's betaright now with Chili's will be
something that you'll be able toenable and disable on your TLDs
.
So if you still want to keepyour TLDs or the SODs on your
TLDs, you know, 100% owned, freeand clear, with no renewals,
you're able to do so.
But in the case of, you know, alarge ecosystem, you know a very
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large ecosystem that, you know,daily is having contests, is,
you know, is building, I know.
You know, with their TLD, theyplan on offering, you know,
continuous rewards, et cetera.
And I've expressed, and, youknow, talked about other
situations where othercommunities, you know, would
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really actually benefit fromhaving renewals continuously
providing utility.
If that revenue stream is goingback into the community and
giving value to that name, asidefrom how they, you know, work
in the traditional sense, then Ithink your community will love
it.
They'll respect the fact thatthe rentals are there and what
they're going for.
And then again, you know,having a cash flow incentivizes
a company or a project to stayopen, you know, to stay healthy.
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And, again, if you're broken,don't have funding, you can't
really do anything for yourholders.
So excited to see what they dowith this initial rollout of
that feature and then, yeah,exciting to see what any of our
TLD holders or our communitychooses to do with the feature
once it's live for the rest ofus.
Last thing I'm going to touch onbefore I get into the main
discussion is the same thingthat I remind you guys of every
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space, and I hope that all ofyou TLD owners on Freename are
doing the same, because I dowant to remind you that the
registry is open for dgen,exchain, .88888, which is 5-8,
and defi wallet.
If any of these names soundamazing to you, I invite you to
go mint your grail today atFreenameio.
These domains and these TLDs orSLDs are 100% ownership.
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So, yeah, if you meet one ofthese, you own your name forever
.
And, yeah, definitely want toinvite you guys to open up to
comment on those.
Also, as I've mentioned before,I've typically blocked the
ability for you to use any promocodes that aren't issued by us
on these TLDs.
Freename does typically offer apromo code depending on any
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partnerships or announcementsthat are going on, and, as TLD
owners, we are able to opt outof those promos.
All of these TLDs are opted in,so whether you're using one of
our promo codes or one of theFreeName promo codes, they both
should work for you.
So, yeah, with, with that beingsaid, you know pretty solid
debate for as little as twodollars and fifty
cents.
All right, now let's get intothe main discussion.
Obviously, the title of thespace again, as I said before,
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is live from Denver.
What is new for 2025?
Today is actually my last fullday here in Denver.
Got here on Wednesday morning.
Yeah, I thought this would bethe perfect time and wanted to
dedicate this tech talk tobriefly discuss how bullish this
year is and also dive into someof the meta that was pretty
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much on full display here atthis year's conference.
One of the first things I'mgoing to begin with is actually
our very own side event that wehosted yesterday.
It was actually an amazing andunforgettable vibe and it was a
very, very it was a great hubfor for for making connections.
It was actually surprisinglymore effective than that, than
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than I thought it would be.
So, as I've led up to you knowquite a few times, and as many
of you know, if you're connectedto the profile or to the
platform.
Iheartdomains is a sponsor anda member of VerbsDAO.
We do a monthly meetup here,local in San Antonio, texas,
aimed at onboarding newbies andbasically anybody who loves and
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is bullish on crypto.
You know a place where we canconnect monthly and talk about
all that good stuff.
It's also a vehicle that we useto onboard people into digital
identity with our vrbstld.
That was sponsored by Freename,so anyone who attends any of
these IRL meetups can actuallyclaim a free verbs domain name
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that they can use as theirdigital identity and align with
the verbscommunity.
Um, as I mentioned, weco-sponsored uh one of the
events out here side events outhere at endeavor with our
friends blood dow, which I'malso a member of, and they have
been a sponsor of our meetups insan antonio by uh, you know,
providing uh some of the flourthat we use to socialize, and so
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we wanted to return the favorhere at this event.
It was called the BloodOlympics.
It was their second BloodOlympics I believe.
The first one that they did wasout in Bangkok in Thailand,
during the last crypto event outthere.
Here are really good thingsabout
that.
I obviously didn't get toattend, but this one definitely,
I think, is one for the books,if there's anything to measure
it up to Definitely, I think, isone for the books, if there's
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anything to measure it up to.
So I want to start with some ofthe basics.
We had a really good turnoutOver 100 people, may have been
200 people, I mean.
It was packed, and if any ofyou are familiar with Denver, so
one of the things that Denveris well, a lot of people kind of
look forward to when they comehere is the fact that cannabis
is legal, right, so a lot ofpeople come here and hit
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dispensaries.
The thing is, though, is thatconsumption legally, in the open
, in public, is actually notlegal, so I just can't smoke in
public, even though most peoplestill do
anyway.
What they have here in Denveris, I mean, the one that I found
is they have consumptionlounges, so they have social
places that you're able to pay amembership or an entry fee to.
You're able to take thecannabis that you purchase at
the dispensary into this socialvenue and then sit down and
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relax and smoke, and et cetera.
So the venue that thisparticular side event was held
at was at the Tetris CannabisLounge here in Denver.
It's actually the second timeI've been to this lounge, as a
matter of fact, so I don't knowhow many lounges they are, but I
guess this one must be thenicer one, because I've been
here two times out of twodifferent years here at East
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Denver.
But there's an inside section.
It's got everything you canthink of, of course your
bathroom, your couches, tables,they have all the accessories
you can think of, etc.
And then on the outside theyhave a bunch of sections covered
tables, all that good stuffagain, big old vibe, so
definitely a dopevenue.
Um, we had free vibes,obviously.
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Um, we provided, uh, and sothere were several sponsors
involved in this and, uh, thecombination of those sponsors,
um, uh, gave away quite a fewthings to the people who
attended to create this vibe.
So, complimentary flower, Imean, it was rolling around
great top-shelf flowers foreverybody you know was able to
roll and socialize and talk.
We also had snacks, also had,like, infused cannabis.
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It was again a lot of merch thegummies.
There are a lot of differentvendors there handing out
different products, connecting,socializing people, and then at
the end we rounded it out with arolling
competition.
Going back to what I was sayingabout being a hub for
connections.
There were a lot of buildersand devs you know, obviously, if
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Denver attracts that crowd inthe first place, but you a lot
of, like I said, very prominentbuilders and devs that were here
at this particular event andgot a great chance to network
with quite a few of them, and itactually connected with a few
of them in the past.
One of the big highlights aswell and I do want to give a
shout out is to Leon Gomez,who's actually one of our VIP
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members in the 3D community.
He's one of the first peoplethere and stayed almost to the
end and weed the whole time andvery much looked for uh, very
much enjoyed uh connecting withhim and talking about the future
uh, you know, and you knowfuture, both his business and
the future of namespaces ingeneral.
Um, and, along with that, gotto have some great conversations
with some builders and devsfrom, uh, the swede blockchain,
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uh, from near, uh, from polkadot, uh, from, uh, basically
everywhere, right, um, and gotsome good opportunities to
explain the power and utility ofcustom
namespaces.
Um, you know, again, making itmake sense.
Uh, for you know everyonethat's out here and this is my
true belief.
Right, and I'll get into it aswe get into some of the meta
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that was here.
You know, kind of breaking downfurther why I think naming is
going to be probably one of the.
You know it already is a bigindustry, but I think it's going
to be one of the big breakout.
You know opportunities in thespace and we're super early.
It is the fact that so manyprojects are building, that
personalization is key and thatthere is so much utility that's
tied behind a name, behind aname, and so being able to
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connect with these differentbuilders and devs and and figure
out ways, um, you know, to getmore integrations, not only on
their chain, but to bring someof the people and partners and
projects on their chain over toour ecosystem, was definitely a
big value.
So, uh, yeah, definitelyenjoyed our um winter
olympics.
Uh, with blunt dow foreverybody attended.
Um, definitely, big shout outto you.
Hope you guys guys had a goodtime and the vibe that we
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intended you to, and then, yeah,looking forward to next year.
Also, again, if you're local toTexas or San Antonio, we do our
own mini meetup every singlemonth.
So, again, if you're lookingfor a great crypto cannabis
community where we talk aboutall things bullish, blockchain,
onboarding, digital identity, etcetera.
I would love for you to comeout to
those.
All right, now let's get intosome of the specific things.
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So, again, if you've never beento EVE, denver or any of these
conferences, before you knowthere's going to be dozens or
hundreds of side events.
There's going to be dozens andhundreds of booths, and they're
all going to be all over theplace.
You're going to see yourstaples, your normal ones, your
traditional typical blockchains,your L2s, but in every single
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event, there's always some sortof theme, a little bit of meta,
right, you'll see a grouping or,specifically, the crowd right
around a certain thing, right,and this year was no different.
I'm going to talk about AI,defi, kind of after I talk about
this, but AI and DeFi andagents were definitely, you know
, one of the big parts of themeta that were out here, as I
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anticipated it wouldbe.
But another one that I actuallyhadn't dug into or really paid
attention to until I got here isD-PIN.
So if you don't know what D-PINis and D-PIN is spelled
D-E-P-I-N it's an acronym forDecentralized Physical
Infrastructure Networks.
Yeah, what it is is it'sbasically a concept within
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blockchain and Web3.
That takes traditionalcentralized physical products or
infrastructure and then itallows it to be managed or
tokenized on the blockchain,right?
So, instead of having you knowour traditional entities, you
know control and obviouslyprofit over things that we use
every day liketelecommunications, iot networks
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.
You know, such as stuff likethat, that D-Pen aims to
distribute both the ownershipand you know basically the
validation data operationalresponsibilities around amongst
you know basically anybody who'sparticipating in the
network.
Give you a perfect example ofthat from back in the day, which
was Helium.
Right, and Helium has evolved.
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I had a great conversationabout Helium yesterday as well,
and didn't know that they werestill like rolling like this,
right?
I remember back when Heliumfirst came out, people were
mining it like crazy, makinggood money, and it was supposed
to be an IoT network andinternet technologies.
I guess what it was going to dowas like help expand or extend
the internet Again, tootechnical for my level at the
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time but I heard when it startedtanking, there were
conversations about thempartnering with Sprint and
things like that in order toagain provide data and
connections to theirnetwork.
Well, yeah, that's essentiallywhat Helium does, right?
You purchase these physicalhotspots and then you use them
to basically add bandwidth ornetwork power to an extent right
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and again the exact terminology, replace it with what makes
sense to you.
But basically what you're doingis you're taking your physical
device and you're contributingto the network with its power,
with its bandwidth, with itswhatever, and then you're
getting rewarded andincentivized by it.
In the case of Mycelium,specifically, you're adding to
the cellular data network andthe way it was explained to me
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yesterday was you know,basically, when you're driving,
when you're doing anything right, your cell phone, when it's
looking for service, when it'strying to transfer some data, et
cetera, it's pinging off ofdifferent towers that exist, of
course, around the globe, thathave been set up, you know, by
these entities like Sprint, etcetera, or towers that they rent
.
You know by these entities likeSpread, et cetera, or towers
that they rent, the new kind ofwhat's being ushered in, you
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know, in order to create abigger and expanded and more
reliable and faster network.
And of course, an incentivizednetwork is that you can kind of
create your own mini towers ormini signals by setting up nodes
right, and then you know ifyou're setting up a node like
one, these Helium nodes in anarea and someone passes by that
area and then their data ortheir cell signal or whatever
pings off of your node.
You get paid that data or thattransaction on some briefly
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before I go to the next, but inthis one specifically, you know
you're contributing to literallythe infrastructure of
communication, of cell phonecommunication, and getting
incentivized for it, and it was.
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You know I've seen vendorssince I've been out here, not
only from the helium space, butalso one was talking about, you
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know, home health, which, yeah,home health is a thing right.
All kinds of different thingsin your home actually provide or
give off data that can be usedto either enhance a consumer
experience, create a product tooptimize the homeowner
experience.
It can be used to help peoplesave bills and energy.
Basically, that data has value.
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And another part of deep end isgoing to be eventually
tokenizing your home and theprocesses within it, tokenizing
your car and the processeswithin it.
Another example I was given andso and I'm saying I was given
because I haven't tested out anyof these yet, but I do 100%
plan to One of the, I guess youwould say the best points about
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dPen is that most of this isjust processes that you already
do, things that you already own,things that you already
use.
You're just, you know, addingmaybe a device or changing the
device that you're using to dothese things, so that it's now
you know how you interact withthis thing is being broadcasted
to the network and you're beingincentivized from it.
Think like sweat, like that'swhat sweat was right.
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Tracking and monitoring youknow, know your physical
activities as you work out, um,and then that data means
something to someone else whomay be looking, um, you know,
for their own body type, etc.
You get my point.
Um, so, like I said, evenmonetizing your car the example
I was given was like cameras onthe front as you drive around
the streets, as you're goingfrom two to fro.
Um, you know, there's d-pindevices, devices out there that
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will actually photograph yourroute that you're driving or
measure the route that you'redriving, and they'll sell this
data to people like Google Maps,right?
So a lot of exciting thingsthat are going to come
out.
Everyone I'm talking to thinksit's going to be pretty much the
next big technologicalrevolution, again putting the
power in the hands of the peopleto monetize their data.
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Data is extremely valuable.
I don't think we, as humanbeings, are ever going to stop
creating data that people want.
Right now, in the traditionalsystem, we give it away for free
for the most part.
One of the original benefits ofblockchain, when I got you know
, was to monetize our data.
Right, that was one of thebiggest things.
That was, you know, privacy wasone, obviously, for the people
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that wanted to stay doxed, butfor the people that wanted, you
know, to monetize their data,that was also, you know, one of
the big things.
That was a big onboarding thingfor me.
So seeing it now, you know,evolving to physical products
and things that we can actuallyuse, is extremely bullish and,
of course, course, right now,while we're early, it's also
extremely lucrative.
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So, yeah, do your own research,obviously.
But yeah, d-pin, I think, is aterm that we're going to be
talking about a lot, looking forways, obviously, to incorporate
and integrate, you know,digital identity into D-PIN and
so, connected with quite a fewpeople.
And yeah, you want to looktowards the future.
I think that will definitely beone that is a big standout way
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for people to create opportunityin the
space.
All right, and then next let'stalk about AI, agents and
automations.
So, again, as I said at thebeginning, one of the biggest
reasons I was even excited tocome out here to this year's EVE
Denver.
I mean, I'm always excited tocome to EVE Denver.
I think a part of me was goingto skip it this year, but then
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when I saw the agenda, you knowwas very much focused on AI,
agents and automation Idefinitely decided that I wanted
to come because, you know, as Isaid in the last space, one of
my goals was to get morehands-on and dive deeper, you
know, in order to optimize myown agents, right.
And so, in this case, eastDenver definitely did
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disappoint.
Almost every other side eventhere and you know a pretty good
concentration of booths in someway or another was connected to
AI, to agents, to automationsand what you could do with them.
There was representation frombasically every major ecosystem
player, including, you know,like Zero X, aether, eliza, os
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you know, some very big ones outthere and we actually have
another side event today, anagentic AI day.
So looking forward toconnecting more and learning
some more.
And, of course, you know,everything that I learned and
you know, can can build uponlove to share with our community
.
But the TLDR right isdefinitely, agents are the
future.
For any of you who you know areafraid of agents or think that
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agents are, you know, kind of awaste of time, I think you're
going to be very surprised.
You're going to see a whole lotmore of them, not
less.
One thing that was super clearis that this is not a trend.
You know, as I explained in mypersonal opinion, this is an
evolution of technology andmankind personally, you know,
and you know it's meant tooptimize processes,
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communications and more.
What do I think will be thebiggest areas for AI and what
seem to be the biggest areas forAI that were, you know, on full
display here?
I wanted to go through a coupleof those so that you know, you
can kind of get a bigger picturefor how to implement them
yourself if you're looking for,you know, ways to build with
them.
Again, this is another bigemerging technology that not
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only has a huge technicalbenefit if you're a builder, but
also, you know, can have a verylucrative benefit, you know,
due to their nature of, you know, the space being tokenized and
being able to create wealth forpeople.
But the three biggest areaswhere I think that we're going
to see a big influx of agentsand where agents make, you know,
a really good impact and, again, you know, do more to optimize
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than replace.
You know,humans.
First section would be, youknow, obviously, customer
service.
So, being able to build andutilize agents, you know, to
handle customer service, notonly in, you know, social media
chats.
You can also have AI agentsthat do this on your website
through bubble chats.
Ai agents that can this on yourwebsite through bubble chats.
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Ai agents that can walk youbasically through the entire
process of either solving aprogram or onboarding yourself
into a platform.
You know, and why is this abetter option than a human being
?
Again, not to replace a humanbeing, but this frees up so much
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time for a human that has morepersonal processes that they
could be involved in, whilethese automated processes really
can do 10 times the work.
You know.
Imagine these agents being ableto talk to 200, 300 people at
one time and provide a differentexperience for each one of them
, depending on their inputs.
It should, you know, enhancecustomer experience rates.
It should, you know, increaseROI and conversions because,
again, you have something that'sadapting to the person that's
interacting with it, somethingthat can respond spot on,
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something that can respond ontopic, not emotional, and
something that can guidesomebody through a process in
the easiest waypossible.
So customer service is a bigarea where I think we're going
to see millions and millions ofAI agents begin to pop up,
obviously agents forproductivity.
So, using agents to bookmeetings for you.
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You know ChatGPT.
When they first launched out,when they first launched and had
their assistant program, youknow many people were using it
to connect to things like Canva,to connect to things like their
Google Calendar, to connect tothings like their CRMs, because
it enhances productivity.
A lot of the manual processesthat we do when we capture leads
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or when we're, you know, tryingto create or build something, a
lot of those processes againcan be automated and made more
efficient so that it frees upyour time to be more productive
in areas that require humaninteraction.
So, in the productivity space,I definitely believe that we are
going to see a big boom, andI'm saying a big boom if you
take the AI agent space.
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You know as a whole right now,if, like, the space was what it
was today, these are currentlythe three major areas that are
growing the fastest, aside from,like, the gaming degen stuff.
But what I'm saying is likewhat I think will be the biggest
space.
I'm saying like when thisbecomes majorly adopted and
there's millions and millions ofpeople, I don't think that the
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trend for what will be morepopular or most popular for
agent use is going to change.
Agent use is going to change.
So saying that, to say this, isthat building in this
opportunity in this space and inthis area now, in these areas
that I'm talking about, willlikely set you up in the future
to be able to be extremelysuccessful with them.
You know, in the event, thatyou want to market and sell
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agents to other people who needtheir
own.
So productivity, customerservice and then, last but not
least, the example that I'mshowing with my own AI agents
Web3 Domain AI and Web3 DigitalID is for marketing and for
sales.
So, again, will it replace yourentire marketing and sales team
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?
Maybe in the future, but fornow, at least in my case, in the
way I use it, it definitelyenhances the markets and again,
it gets in the pockets that Ican't get into.
One of the best things about AIagents, again, is that you're
able to direct it, you know, toall the information, for it to
learn 100 percent about what youdo Right and they are able to
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instruct it to go, communicateit in ways you know, in the best
way possible to other people.
And when you see it in action,you know, especially when I see
mine in action I'm extremelyimpressed by, you know, the
verbiage and by the way and bywho it interacts
with.
And again, for marketing andsales, I think agents,
especially for crypto projects,have the ability to increase,
you know, conversions andonboarding, because they could
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just simply get in the pocketsand market in ways that we can't
.
You know, whether it's a basicTwitter or Telegram agent or one
that's actually able to createfull social media profiles and
full marketing collateral videos, et cetera.
Again, very big space where itsaves time, energy and enhances
a marketing campaign and mayeven replace a marketing
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campaign.
For people who are smallerteams One or two person teams,
you know, is it's a much easierdecision, you know, for you to
build your own agent with a fewhundred, a few thousand dollars,
train it, you know, get itperfect, working and automated,
than it is to, you know, hiresomebody for marketing, you know
, for, you know, maybe a hundredthousand dollars or more per
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year, again, depending on howmuch you scale and the size of
yourcompany.
You're going to end up at thatcrossroads anyway, because there
are always going to be thingsthat are required the human
touch, human problem solving, etcetera, human creativity, and I
don't see bots getting thereyet.
But for some of the simpletasks and even for some of the
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more repetitive and you know thetasks that you know when you,
when it comes across your desk,you want to pass on it for
another hour, procrastinate,these are the perfect things for
agents and I think that thiswill definitely enhance the
marketing efforts.
Again, from both largecompanies to especially us, as
you know, smaller investors andsmaller teams that, again you
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know, want to optimize our time,optimize our budget and want to
put out, you know, some greatmarketing material and sales
support without necessarilyhiring, you know, an entire
sales staff or anothersalesperson for, like I said,
100k plus.
So, yeah, again, ai agents,definitely bullish on them,
looking forward to continuing tobuild mine out and looking
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forward to seeing how everybodycontinues to expand and build
theirs out.
But again, you know, notfinancial advice, dyr, all that
goodstuff.
But if you aren't bullish on AI, if you think it's just here to
take over the world and youwant to fade it, it's probably
going to be something that doesnot age well.
Again, you know, the firstperception of it is that you
know it's here to help you cheator it takes the human out of
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things.
But again, if you use it inthese areas to enhance and
optimize your businesses andyour processes, I think you'll
end up, you know, being a morebetter version of yourself and a
more productive and profitableversion of yourself.
And, as many have said, youknow it's not necessarily AI.
You know that's going to makeyou, that's going to take over
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businesses or take over theworld, or that's going to
replace, you know, human beings,but definitely people who are
using AI will be more soughtafter than those who don't.
And then that takes me kind ofto the last thing that I saw and
another big opportunity.
You know, with all these thingsbeing said, that is going to
continue to develop in the space.
So, with the introduction of,you know not only people in the
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blockchain, but now you know, aiagents with D-Pen.
Now we're getting things.
All these things are getting,you know, contract addresses,
they're getting wallet addresses, they're all being identified
by blockchain processes, and sothere's a big opportunity for
naming here.
But one of the other thingsthat there's a big opportunity
for is considering that we mayget to a point where we don't
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know who's who or what'swhat.
A couple of people that I'verun across in one big booth in
particular that actually kind ofgot the wheel spinning was
focused on what's called proofof humanity.
Proof of humanity is a littledifferent than KYC, right, so
there's already products rightnow where you can both KYC
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publicly, obviously using likeCoinbase or whatever.
But there's places where youcan get like BAB tokens or kind
of proof of humanity tokens byKYCing to a third party.
That third party then verifiesthat you, you know, doxed them.
They give you a token thatyou're able to use in exchange
and then that token verifiesthat you doxed to somebody.
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Some of these tokens, again,are public doxed tokens where
you're showing your people, youknow your identity straight out,
and then some of them are beingused just to validate that you
have doxed to somebodyelse.
Proof of humanity is a littledifferent, so it's not a docs,
at least in the platform thatthis one in particular that I'm
going to talk about.
It wasn't a docs because youdidn't have to necessarily give
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your name or any of thatinformation that you can, and
obviously, for the people whowant to do better networking,
that's something that we'regoing to do, but this used
biometrics.
So basically first gets set up,you give her either a palm
print or thumb print.
It records that, right.
I guess the system says to havea palm print or a thumb print,
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you have to be a human being,and then it just records the
fact that someone put a palm ora thumb print and gives you a
token based on that that'sconnected to a wallet, and then
you're able to give a personthat wallet to show that a human
being is associated with thiswallet instead of being a bot or
any of these other objects thatare out
there.
And I thought that this was aninteresting kind of hybrid
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concept because, again, doxingand identity is a very sensitive
subject in our space.
Doxing, I think, only reallybecame something that people in
large became comfortable withdoing just only a couple of
years ago.
We still have a vast majorityof people that want to be
anonymous for different reasons.
Some of them want to beanonymous because it's just
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ancient business what I'm doingin crypto.
Some want to be anonymousbecause it just ain't your
business what I'm doing incrypto.
So I want to be anonymousbecause they obviously scan, but
for whatever that reason isagain doxing privacy.
Identity has always been, youknow, kind of one of those again
sensitivesubjects.
With this, you know, when westart more and more introducing
crypto and Web3 into the realworld, we start integrating
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blockchain, we start using thisin the ways that you know, a lot
of us on Spaces are saying thefuture looks right, which is
validating your identity onchain, putting deeds and things
on chain, rwbs, all this goodstuff.
It's going to become more andmore important to prove that
you're a real human being andprove your identity.
And so you know we're eithergoing to come to the crossroads
where you're going to have tosuck it up and, you know, either
dock straight up or, like Isaid, great solutions like this,
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you know, depending on how manypeople integrate and, you know,
actually use it to validateyour identity, I think will be,
you know, a big welcome additionto the space.
That's something that we'regoing to see a lot of again for
proof of humanity.
And then, as I said, it's agreat use case for naming and
personalization With thisparticular platform.
Once you scan your fingerprintor your thumb and it gives you
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basically that token, that proofof humanity, they actually
create the EVM address for youand then it's stored there In
this particular platform.
Again, now, in order to shareto somebody that you have, this
proof of identity token or proofof humanity token, you'd have
to share that long, complicatedcrypto address or an app or a
tap or anything like that.
And again, great use case nowfor naming and personalization
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of this we discussed with themHuman being has a palm.
It needs a name, and so TLDRagain.
And big conclusion is that,basically, ai technology the
continuation of automation isgoing to be doubled down on as
far as development, but as eachone of these things continues to
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get more traction, they createmore things Again, deep end is
going to create millions,billions and trillions of
products that are all going tobe tokenized.
They're all going to havewallets, they're all going to be
connected to a smart contract,which means they're all going to
need a name AI agents themillions, billions and some
predict trillions of agents thatwill one day exist that will
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handle everything again, fromcustomer service, productivity,
marketing and sales to anymanner of DGN thing, that a bot
will be invented to do.
Again, a lot of these bots aretokenized, a lot of these bots
have their own wallets becausethey're automated and able to
create their own business.
And because they have their ownwallets and because they're
tokenized, they are going to bea name.
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And then the same thing foranybody who's onboarding through
the space, through anymechanism that's receiving a
blockchain address, that wantsto use us in any capacity that
is joining any community.
They will all need aname.
That is basically the hill thatI've been standing on the
entire time.
I've been out here and againgetting a lot of great reception
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because it makes sense.
So, metaphor 2025, I believe,and what I'm bullish on from
what I've come from from EveDenver.
Better for 2025, I believe, andwhat I'm bullish on from what
I've come from from Eve DenverD-Pen if you're not already
involved in any of thoseprojects, if you're not already
familiar with Helium, if you'realready not familiar with any of
those processes, I woulddefinitely start now.
Ai Agents obviously, superbullish on AI Agents.
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I love continuing exploringthat and sharing that as much as
possible.
Big future Love the way myagents currently are working
right now, again for a goodexample of what I'm talking
about.
As far as you know thedifferent pockets and ways that
you know agents can communicate,market for you, you know that
maybe you just won't see as ahuman being, right, you know?
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Feel free to look at the twoagents that I've built Web3
Digital ID and Web3 Domains AI.
Yeah, both of those are verygood examples of agents that are
out there doing the work.
Also, too kind of to my ownhorn, these agents have been.
Both of these agents have beenlive a little less than three
weeks, I want to say, if I'm notmistaken, and they've already
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gotten me 400 Twitter follows aswell.
So them continuously tagging meevery time they make a comment
has been very good as well.
So the way you optimize themand the way you make them work
can be, again, extremelyproductive, especially for
smaller teams, one-man teams, ifyou've got an individual TLD or
a bunch of TLDs or anythinglike
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that.
Again, the last workshop wentthrough some of the strategies
that you can use them for and,yeah, I think this year's
conference is a great showcaseof, again, the meta of what's to
come.
The future is definitely bright, it's automated and, as I said,
every single thing is going toneed a name.
So best thing to do, movingforward, is find your place and
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start communicating your value.
Yeah, definitely lookingforward to what this year has to
bring.
Looking forward to some of theupcoming announcements, also
fromFreename.
We are not doing the Web3Domains Whale Talk today,
obviously because I'm out herein Denver, but next week's Whale
Talk will be a very excitingone, again, talking about the
latest release and some of theones we have coming up.
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It's a very bullish space, avery bullish time.
If you're still out here, youcan catch me here on this last
day.
I'd love to meet up withanybody in the main event or any
of the side events, but, yeah,if you're tuning in and catching
this kind of watching from thesideline, I hope that this alpha
I dropped will help make you asproductive as it's making me.
And definitely thank you guysall for attending this Tech Talk
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Again, tech Talk will be onevery major podcast there in a
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And, yeah, look forward totalking to you guys next week.
Enjoy your day and focus onyour mission, your condition.
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Thank you, hello, hello and good morning.
Going to get started here injust a second Posted one of the
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Yeah, as always, ask if youcould like retweet the spaces.
If you have anything that youwant to add to the conversation,
feel free to hop up on stage orrequest a speaker role.
But yeah, this one's designedto be pretty quick.
As you can see in the title.
I am here in Denver live.
It is an hour earlier for methan it usually is, so it is 530
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in the morning definitely veryearly, but wouldn't want to do
it doing or wouldn't spend itdoing anything but talking about
what I'm bullish on, as istypical.
Just have some super quickopening news I want to open up
with before I get into the maindiscussion.
The first piece of opening newsis what's pinned up at the top.
If you have not heard already,3d just launched their
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partnership with Chili's, whichis a sports-based blockchain.
You can feel free to followthat announcement or follow
Chili's directly.
They have almost a half amillion followers, so a pretty
big platform.
A couple of things that I'mexcited about in this
partnership, and so the TLD thatthey've partnered with is the
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CHC TLD, so anyone who's bullishon the or connected to the
Chili's community or just wantsa cool domain name can go to
freenameio right now and commityour favorite CHC.
I know we have the standardfreename coupons out.
I don't know if Chili's has anyopening coupons or introductory
coupons, but they do have somespecials for their current
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community.
I believe if you're one oftheir token holders, you may get
your domain for free.
It may even be free for anumber of years, and that's one
of the biggest parts of thispartnership that I wanted to
highlight is that thispartnership with Chili's
actually brought forth a newutility in the Freename
ecosystem, and that is thatChili's and their CHC TLD is the
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first TLD to offer or to havethe renewal feature enabled.
For those of you who arefamiliar with the free name
ecosystem, you know one of thebiggest selling points and will
always be one of the biggestselling points is that if you
become a customer or investor offree name, if you purchase a
TLD, that TLD is yours, free andclear.
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There are never any otherreason.
You also you know kind ofstandard practice you have the
ability to issue them also inthe same fashion, which is
forever, no renewals, et cetera.
This is a big benefit, right?
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You know almost every othernaming protocol in the ecosystem
has renewals to some extent,and we know of one that does it,
but, trust me, they get theirmoney in other ways, and so it's
been a big selling point, andthat feature is something that
we'll still always be proud ofand will be one of the core
features and benefits to any TLDholder here at Freename.
However, the reason why I'msuper bullish on this, though,
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and so, again, if you're a TLDowner on Freename, this option,
once it becomes live it's betaright now with Chili's will be
something that you'll be able toenable and disable on your TLDs
.
So if you still want to keepyour TLDs or the SODs on your
TLDs, you know, 100% owned, freeand clear, with no renewals,
you're able to do so.
But in the case of, you know, alarge ecosystem, you know a very
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large ecosystem that, you know,daily is having contests, is,
you know, is building, I know.
You know, with their TLD, theyplan on offering, you know,
continuous rewards, et cetera.
And I've expressed, and, youknow, talked about other
situations where othercommunities, you know, would
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really actually benefit fromhaving renewals continuously
providing utility.
If that revenue stream is goingback into the community and
giving value to that name, asidefrom how they, you know, work
in the traditional sense, then Ithink your community will love
it.
They'll respect the fact thatthe rentals are there and what
they're going for.
And then again, you know,having a cash flow incentivizes
a company or a project to stayopen, you know, to stay healthy.
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And, again, if you're broken,don't have funding, you can't
really do anything for yourholders.
So excited to see what they dowith this initial rollout of
that feature and then, yeah,exciting to see what any of our
TLD holders or our communitychooses to do with the feature
once it's live for the rest ofus.
Last thing I'm going to touch onbefore I get into the main
discussion is the same thingthat I remind you guys of every
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space, and I hope that all ofyou TLD owners on Freename are
doing the same, because I dowant to remind you that the
registry is open for dgen,exchain, .88888, which is 5-8,
and defi wallet.
If any of these names soundamazing to you, I invite you to
go mint your grail today atFreenameio.
These domains and these TLDs orSLDs are 100% ownership.
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So, yeah, if you meet one ofthese, you own your name forever
.
And, yeah, definitely want toinvite you guys to open up to
comment on those.
Also, as I've mentioned before,I've typically blocked the
ability for you to use any promocodes that aren't issued by us
on these TLDs.
Freename does typically offer apromo code depending on any
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partnerships or announcementsthat are going on, and, as TLD
owners, we are able to opt outof those promos.
All of these TLDs are opted in,so whether you're using one of
our promo codes or one of theFreeName promo codes, they both
should work for you.
So, yeah, with, with that beingsaid, you know pretty solid
debate for as little as twodollars and fifty
cents.
All right, now let's get intothe main discussion.
Obviously, the title of thespace again, as I said before,
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is live from Denver.
What is new for 2025?
Today is actually my last fullday here in Denver.
Got here on Wednesday morning.
Yeah, I thought this would bethe perfect time and wanted to
dedicate this tech talk tobriefly discuss how bullish this
year is and also dive into someof the meta that was pretty
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much on full display here atthis year's conference.
One of the first things I'mgoing to begin with is actually
our very own side event that wehosted yesterday.
It was actually an amazing andunforgettable vibe and it was a
very, very it was a great hubfor for for making connections.
It was actually surprisinglymore effective than that, than
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than I thought it would be.
So, as I've led up to you knowquite a few times, and as many
of you know, if you're connectedto the profile or to the
platform.
Iheartdomains is a sponsor anda member of VerbsDAO.
We do a monthly meetup here,local in San Antonio, texas,
aimed at onboarding newbies andbasically anybody who loves and
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is bullish on crypto.
You know a place where we canconnect monthly and talk about
all that good stuff.
It's also a vehicle that we useto onboard people into digital
identity with our vrbstld.
That was sponsored by Freename,so anyone who attends any of
these IRL meetups can actuallyclaim a free verbs domain name
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that they can use as theirdigital identity and align with
the verbscommunity.
Um, as I mentioned, weco-sponsored uh one of the
events out here side events outhere at endeavor with our
friends blood dow, which I'malso a member of, and they have
been a sponsor of our meetups insan antonio by uh, you know,
providing uh some of the flourthat we use to socialize, and so
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we wanted to return the favorhere at this event.
It was called the BloodOlympics.
It was their second BloodOlympics I believe.
The first one that they did wasout in Bangkok in Thailand,
during the last crypto event outthere.
Here are really good thingsabout
that.
I obviously didn't get toattend, but this one definitely,
I think, is one for the books,if there's anything to measure
it up to Definitely, I think, isone for the books, if there's
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anything to measure it up to.
So I want to start with some ofthe basics.
We had a really good turnoutOver 100 people, may have been
200 people, I mean.
It was packed, and if any ofyou are familiar with Denver, so
one of the things that Denveris well, a lot of people kind of
look forward to when they comehere is the fact that cannabis
is legal, right, so a lot ofpeople come here and hit
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dispensaries.
The thing is, though, is thatconsumption legally, in the open
, in public, is actually notlegal, so I just can't smoke in
public, even though most peoplestill do
anyway.
What they have here in Denveris, I mean, the one that I found
is they have consumptionlounges, so they have social
places that you're able to pay amembership or an entry fee to.
You're able to take thecannabis that you purchase at
the dispensary into this socialvenue and then sit down and
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relax and smoke, and et cetera.
So the venue that thisparticular side event was held
at was at the Tetris CannabisLounge here in Denver.
It's actually the second timeI've been to this lounge, as a
matter of fact, so I don't knowhow many lounges they are, but I
guess this one must be thenicer one, because I've been
here two times out of twodifferent years here at East
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Denver.
But there's an inside section.
It's got everything you canthink of, of course your
bathroom, your couches, tables,they have all the accessories
you can think of, etc.
And then on the outside theyhave a bunch of sections covered
tables, all that good stuffagain, big old vibe, so
definitely a dopevenue.
Um, we had free vibes,obviously.
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Um, we provided, uh, and sothere were several sponsors
involved in this and, uh, thecombination of those sponsors,
um, uh, gave away quite a fewthings to the people who
attended to create this vibe.
So, complimentary flower, Imean, it was rolling around
great top-shelf flowers foreverybody you know was able to
roll and socialize and talk.
We also had snacks, also had,like, infused cannabis.
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It was again a lot of merch thegummies.
There are a lot of differentvendors there handing out
different products, connecting,socializing people, and then at
the end we rounded it out with arolling
competition.
Going back to what I was sayingabout being a hub for
connections.
There were a lot of buildersand devs you know, obviously, if
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Denver attracts that crowd inthe first place, but you a lot
of, like I said, very prominentbuilders and devs that were here
at this particular event andgot a great chance to network
with quite a few of them, and itactually connected with a few
of them in the past.
One of the big highlights aswell and I do want to give a
shout out is to Leon Gomez,who's actually one of our VIP
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members in the 3D community.
He's one of the first peoplethere and stayed almost to the
end and weed the whole time andvery much looked for uh, very
much enjoyed uh connecting withhim and talking about the future
uh, you know, and you knowfuture, both his business and
the future of namespaces ingeneral.
Um, and, along with that, gotto have some great conversations
with some builders and devsfrom, uh, the swede blockchain,
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uh, from near, uh, from polkadot, uh, from, uh, basically
everywhere, right, um, and gotsome good opportunities to
explain the power and utility ofcustom
namespaces.
Um, you know, again, making itmake sense.
Uh, for you know everyonethat's out here and this is my
true belief.
Right, and I'll get into it aswe get into some of the meta
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that was here.
You know, kind of breaking downfurther why I think naming is
going to be probably one of the.
You know it already is a bigindustry, but I think it's going
to be one of the big breakout.
You know opportunities in thespace and we're super early.
It is the fact that so manyprojects are building, that
personalization is key and thatthere is so much utility that's
tied behind a name, behind aname, and so being able to
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connect with these differentbuilders and devs and and figure
out ways, um, you know, to getmore integrations, not only on
their chain, but to bring someof the people and partners and
projects on their chain over toour ecosystem, was definitely a
big value.
So, uh, yeah, definitelyenjoyed our um winter
olympics.
Uh, with blunt dow foreverybody attended.
Um, definitely, big shout outto you.
Hope you guys guys had a goodtime and the vibe that we
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intended you to, and then, yeah,looking forward to next year.
Also, again, if you're local toTexas or San Antonio, we do our
own mini meetup every singlemonth.
So, again, if you're lookingfor a great crypto cannabis
community where we talk aboutall things bullish, blockchain,
onboarding, digital identity, etcetera.
I would love for you to comeout to
those.
All right, now let's get intosome of the specific things.
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So, again, if you've never beento EVE, denver or any of these
conferences, before you knowthere's going to be dozens or
hundreds of side events.
There's going to be dozens andhundreds of booths, and they're
all going to be all over theplace.
You're going to see yourstaples, your normal ones, your
traditional typical blockchains,your L2s, but in every single
(14:57):
event, there's always some sortof theme, a little bit of meta,
right, you'll see a grouping or,specifically, the crowd right
around a certain thing, right,and this year was no different.
I'm going to talk about AI,defi, kind of after I talk about
this, but AI and DeFi andagents were definitely, you know
, one of the big parts of themeta that were out here, as I
(15:18):
anticipated it wouldbe.
But another one that I actuallyhadn't dug into or really paid
attention to until I got here isD-PIN.
So if you don't know what D-PINis and D-PIN is spelled
D-E-P-I-N it's an acronym forDecentralized Physical
Infrastructure Networks.
Yeah, what it is is it'sbasically a concept within
(15:43):
blockchain and Web3.
That takes traditionalcentralized physical products or
infrastructure and then itallows it to be managed or
tokenized on the blockchain,right?
So, instead of having you knowour traditional entities, you
know control and obviouslyprofit over things that we use
every day liketelecommunications, iot networks
(16:03):
.
You know, such as stuff likethat, that D-Pen aims to
distribute both the ownershipand you know basically the
validation data operationalresponsibilities around amongst
you know basically anybody who'sparticipating in the
network.
Give you a perfect example ofthat from back in the day, which
was Helium.
Right, and Helium has evolved.
(16:23):
I had a great conversationabout Helium yesterday as well,
and didn't know that they werestill like rolling like this,
right?
I remember back when Heliumfirst came out, people were
mining it like crazy, makinggood money, and it was supposed
to be an IoT network andinternet technologies.
I guess what it was going to dowas like help expand or extend
the internet Again, tootechnical for my level at the
(16:45):
time but I heard when it startedtanking, there were
conversations about thempartnering with Sprint and
things like that in order toagain provide data and
connections to theirnetwork.
Well, yeah, that's essentiallywhat Helium does, right?
You purchase these physicalhotspots and then you use them
to basically add bandwidth ornetwork power to an extent right
(17:09):
and again the exact terminology, replace it with what makes
sense to you.
But basically what you're doingis you're taking your physical
device and you're contributingto the network with its power,
with its bandwidth, with itswhatever, and then you're
getting rewarded andincentivized by it.
In the case of Mycelium,specifically, you're adding to
the cellular data network andthe way it was explained to me
(17:30):
yesterday was you know,basically, when you're driving,
when you're doing anything right, your cell phone, when it's
looking for service, when it'strying to transfer some data, et
cetera, it's pinging off ofdifferent towers that exist, of
course, around the globe, thathave been set up, you know, by
these entities like Sprint, etcetera, or towers that they rent
.
You know by these entities likeSpread, et cetera, or towers
that they rent, the new kind ofwhat's being ushered in, you
(17:55):
know, in order to create abigger and expanded and more
reliable and faster network.
And of course, an incentivizednetwork is that you can kind of
create your own mini towers ormini signals by setting up nodes
right, and then you know ifyou're setting up a node like
one, these Helium nodes in anarea and someone passes by that
area and then their data ortheir cell signal or whatever
pings off of your node.
You get paid that data or thattransaction on some briefly
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before I go to the next, but inthis one specifically, you know
you're contributing to literallythe infrastructure of
communication, of cell phonecommunication, and getting
incentivized for it, and it was.
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You know I've seen vendorssince I've been out here, not
only from the helium space, butalso one was talking about, you
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know, home health, which, yeah,home health is a thing right.
All kinds of different thingsin your home actually provide or
give off data that can be usedto either enhance a consumer
experience, create a product tooptimize the homeowner
experience.
It can be used to help peoplesave bills and energy.
Basically, that data has value.
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And another part of deep end isgoing to be eventually
tokenizing your home and theprocesses within it, tokenizing
your car and the processeswithin it.
Another example I was given andso and I'm saying I was given
because I haven't tested out anyof these yet, but I do 100%
plan to One of the, I guess youwould say the best points about
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dPen is that most of this isjust processes that you already
do, things that you already own,things that you already
use.
You're just, you know, addingmaybe a device or changing the
device that you're using to dothese things, so that it's now
you know how you interact withthis thing is being broadcasted
to the network and you're beingincentivized from it.
Think like sweat, like that'swhat sweat was right.
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Tracking and monitoring youknow, know your physical
activities as you work out, um,and then that data means
something to someone else whomay be looking, um, you know,
for their own body type, etc.
You get my point.
Um, so, like I said, evenmonetizing your car the example
I was given was like cameras onthe front as you drive around
the streets, as you're goingfrom two to fro.
Um, you know, there's d-pindevices, devices out there that
(20:30):
will actually photograph yourroute that you're driving or
measure the route that you'redriving, and they'll sell this
data to people like Google Maps,right?
So a lot of exciting thingsthat are going to come
out.
Everyone I'm talking to thinksit's going to be pretty much the
next big technologicalrevolution, again putting the
power in the hands of the peopleto monetize their data.
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Data is extremely valuable.
I don't think we, as humanbeings, are ever going to stop
creating data that people want.
Right now, in the traditionalsystem, we give it away for free
for the most part.
One of the original benefits ofblockchain, when I got you know
, was to monetize our data.
Right, that was one of thebiggest things.
That was, you know, privacy wasone, obviously, for the people
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that wanted to stay doxed, butfor the people that wanted, you
know, to monetize their data,that was also, you know, one of
the big things.
That was a big onboarding thingfor me.
So seeing it now, you know,evolving to physical products
and things that we can actuallyuse, is extremely bullish and,
of course, course, right now,while we're early, it's also
extremely lucrative.
(21:33):
So, yeah, do your own research,obviously.
But yeah, d-pin, I think, is aterm that we're going to be
talking about a lot, looking forways, obviously, to incorporate
and integrate, you know,digital identity into D-PIN and
so, connected with quite a fewpeople.
And yeah, you want to looktowards the future.
I think that will definitely beone that is a big standout way
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for people to create opportunityin the
space.
All right, and then next let'stalk about AI, agents and
automations.
So, again, as I said at thebeginning, one of the biggest
reasons I was even excited tocome out here to this year's EVE
Denver.
I mean, I'm always excited tocome to EVE Denver.
I think a part of me was goingto skip it this year, but then
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when I saw the agenda, you knowwas very much focused on AI,
agents and automation Idefinitely decided that I wanted
to come because, you know, as Isaid in the last space, one of
my goals was to get morehands-on and dive deeper, you
know, in order to optimize myown agents, right.
And so, in this case, eastDenver definitely did
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disappoint.
Almost every other side eventhere and you know a pretty good
concentration of booths in someway or another was connected to
AI, to agents, to automationsand what you could do with them.
There was representation frombasically every major ecosystem
player, including, you know,like Zero X, aether, eliza, os
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you know, some very big ones outthere and we actually have
another side event today, anagentic AI day.
So looking forward toconnecting more and learning
some more.
And, of course, you know,everything that I learned and
you know, can can build uponlove to share with our community
.
But the TLDR right isdefinitely, agents are the
future.
For any of you who you know areafraid of agents or think that
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agents are, you know, kind of awaste of time, I think you're
going to be very surprised.
You're going to see a whole lotmore of them, not
less.
One thing that was super clearis that this is not a trend.
You know, as I explained in mypersonal opinion, this is an
evolution of technology andmankind personally, you know,
and you know it's meant tooptimize processes,
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communications and more.
What do I think will be thebiggest areas for AI and what
seem to be the biggest areas forAI that were, you know, on full
display here?
I wanted to go through a coupleof those so that you know, you
can kind of get a bigger picturefor how to implement them
yourself if you're looking for,you know, ways to build with
them.
Again, this is another bigemerging technology that not
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only has a huge technicalbenefit if you're a builder, but
also, you know, can have a verylucrative benefit, you know,
due to their nature of, you know, the space being tokenized and
being able to create wealth forpeople.
But the three biggest areaswhere I think that we're going
to see a big influx of agentsand where agents make, you know,
a really good impact and, again, you know, do more to optimize
(24:32):
than replace.
You know,humans.
First section would be, youknow, obviously, customer
service.
So, being able to build andutilize agents, you know, to
handle customer service, notonly in, you know, social media
chats.
You can also have AI agentsthat do this on your website
through bubble chats.
Ai agents that can this on yourwebsite through bubble chats.
(24:55):
Ai agents that can walk youbasically through the entire
process of either solving aprogram or onboarding yourself
into a platform.
You know, and why is this abetter option than a human being
?
Again, not to replace a humanbeing, but this frees up so much
(25:17):
time for a human that has morepersonal processes that they
could be involved in, whilethese automated processes really
can do 10 times the work.
You know.
Imagine these agents being ableto talk to 200, 300 people at
one time and provide a differentexperience for each one of them
, depending on their inputs.
It should, you know, enhancecustomer experience rates.
It should, you know, increaseROI and conversions because,
again, you have something that'sadapting to the person that's
interacting with it, somethingthat can respond spot on,
(25:40):
something that can respond ontopic, not emotional, and
something that can guidesomebody through a process in
the easiest waypossible.
So customer service is a bigarea where I think we're going
to see millions and millions ofAI agents begin to pop up,
obviously agents forproductivity.
So, using agents to bookmeetings for you.
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You know ChatGPT.
When they first launched out,when they first launched and had
their assistant program, youknow many people were using it
to connect to things like Canva,to connect to things like their
Google Calendar, to connect tothings like their CRMs, because
it enhances productivity.
A lot of the manual processesthat we do when we capture leads
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or when we're, you know, tryingto create or build something, a
lot of those processes againcan be automated and made more
efficient so that it frees upyour time to be more productive
in areas that require humaninteraction.
So, in the productivity space,I definitely believe that we are
going to see a big boom, andI'm saying a big boom if you
take the AI agent space.
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You know as a whole right now,if, like, the space was what it
was today, these are currentlythe three major areas that are
growing the fastest, aside from,like, the gaming degen stuff.
But what I'm saying is likewhat I think will be the biggest
space.
I'm saying like when thisbecomes majorly adopted and
there's millions and millions ofpeople, I don't think that the
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trend for what will be morepopular or most popular for
agent use is going to change.
Agent use is going to change.
So saying that, to say this, isthat building in this
opportunity in this space and inthis area now, in these areas
that I'm talking about, willlikely set you up in the future
to be able to be extremelysuccessful with them.
You know, in the event, thatyou want to market and sell
(27:23):
agents to other people who needtheir
own.
So productivity, customerservice and then, last but not
least, the example that I'mshowing with my own AI agents
Web3 Domain AI and Web3 DigitalID is for marketing and for
sales.
So, again, will it replace yourentire marketing and sales team
(27:45):
?
Maybe in the future, but fornow, at least in my case, in the
way I use it, it definitelyenhances the markets and again,
it gets in the pockets that Ican't get into.
One of the best things about AIagents, again, is that you're
able to direct it, you know, toall the information, for it to
learn 100 percent about what youdo Right and they are able to
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instruct it to go, communicateit in ways you know, in the best
way possible to other people.
And when you see it in action,you know, especially when I see
mine in action I'm extremelyimpressed by, you know, the
verbiage and by the way and bywho it interacts
with.
And again, for marketing andsales, I think agents,
especially for crypto projects,have the ability to increase,
you know, conversions andonboarding, because they could
(28:27):
just simply get in the pocketsand market in ways that we can't
.
You know, whether it's a basicTwitter or Telegram agent or one
that's actually able to createfull social media profiles and
full marketing collateral videos, et cetera.
Again, very big space where itsaves time, energy and enhances
a marketing campaign and mayeven replace a marketing
(28:50):
campaign.
For people who are smallerteams One or two person teams,
you know, is it's a much easierdecision, you know, for you to
build your own agent with a fewhundred, a few thousand dollars,
train it, you know, get itperfect, working and automated,
than it is to, you know, hiresomebody for marketing, you know
, for, you know, maybe a hundredthousand dollars or more per
(29:10):
year, again, depending on howmuch you scale and the size of
yourcompany.
You're going to end up at thatcrossroads anyway, because there
are always going to be thingsthat are required the human
touch, human problem solving, etcetera, human creativity, and I
don't see bots getting thereyet.
But for some of the simpletasks and even for some of the
(29:33):
more repetitive and you know thetasks that you know when you,
when it comes across your desk,you want to pass on it for
another hour, procrastinate,these are the perfect things for
agents and I think that thiswill definitely enhance the
marketing efforts.
Again, from both largecompanies to especially us, as
you know, smaller investors andsmaller teams that, again you
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know, want to optimize our time,optimize our budget and want to
put out, you know, some greatmarketing material and sales
support without necessarilyhiring, you know, an entire
sales staff or anothersalesperson for, like I said,
100k plus.
So, yeah, again, ai agents,definitely bullish on them,
looking forward to continuing tobuild mine out and looking
(30:18):
forward to seeing how everybodycontinues to expand and build
theirs out.
But again, you know, notfinancial advice, dyr, all that
goodstuff.
But if you aren't bullish on AI, if you think it's just here to
take over the world and youwant to fade it, it's probably
going to be something that doesnot age well.
Again, you know, the firstperception of it is that you
know it's here to help you cheator it takes the human out of
(30:40):
things.
But again, if you use it inthese areas to enhance and
optimize your businesses andyour processes, I think you'll
end up, you know, being a morebetter version of yourself and a
more productive and profitableversion of yourself.
And, as many have said, youknow it's not necessarily AI.
You know that's going to makeyou, that's going to take over
(31:06):
businesses or take over theworld, or that's going to
replace, you know, human beings,but definitely people who are
using AI will be more soughtafter than those who don't.
And then that takes me kind ofto the last thing that I saw and
another big opportunity.
You know, with all these thingsbeing said, that is going to
continue to develop in the space.
So, with the introduction of,you know not only people in the
(31:31):
blockchain, but now you know, aiagents with D-Pen.
Now we're getting things.
All these things are getting,you know, contract addresses,
they're getting wallet addresses, they're all being identified
by blockchain processes, and sothere's a big opportunity for
naming here.
But one of the other thingsthat there's a big opportunity
for is considering that we mayget to a point where we don't
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know who's who or what'swhat.
A couple of people that I'verun across in one big booth in
particular that actually kind ofgot the wheel spinning was
focused on what's called proofof humanity.
Proof of humanity is a littledifferent than KYC, right, so
there's already products rightnow where you can both KYC
(32:17):
publicly, obviously using likeCoinbase or whatever.
But there's places where youcan get like BAB tokens or kind
of proof of humanity tokens byKYCing to a third party.
That third party then verifiesthat you, you know, doxed them.
They give you a token thatyou're able to use in exchange
and then that token verifiesthat you doxed to somebody.
(32:38):
Some of these tokens, again,are public doxed tokens where
you're showing your people, youknow your identity straight out,
and then some of them are beingused just to validate that you
have doxed to somebodyelse.
Proof of humanity is a littledifferent, so it's not a docs,
at least in the platform thatthis one in particular that I'm
going to talk about.
It wasn't a docs because youdidn't have to necessarily give
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your name or any of thatinformation that you can, and
obviously, for the people whowant to do better networking,
that's something that we'regoing to do, but this used
biometrics.
So basically first gets set up,you give her either a palm
print or thumb print.
It records that, right.
I guess the system says to havea palm print or a thumb print,
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you have to be a human being,and then it just records the
fact that someone put a palm ora thumb print and gives you a
token based on that that'sconnected to a wallet, and then
you're able to give a personthat wallet to show that a human
being is associated with thiswallet instead of being a bot or
any of these other objects thatare out
there.
And I thought that this was aninteresting kind of hybrid
(33:43):
concept because, again, doxingand identity is a very sensitive
subject in our space.
Doxing, I think, only reallybecame something that people in
large became comfortable withdoing just only a couple of
years ago.
We still have a vast majorityof people that want to be
anonymous for different reasons.
Some of them want to beanonymous because it's just
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ancient business what I'm doingin crypto.
Some want to be anonymousbecause it just ain't your
business what I'm doing incrypto.
So I want to be anonymousbecause they obviously scan, but
for whatever that reason isagain doxing privacy.
Identity has always been, youknow, kind of one of those again
sensitivesubjects.
With this, you know, when westart more and more introducing
crypto and Web3 into the realworld, we start integrating
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blockchain, we start using thisin the ways that you know, a lot
of us on Spaces are saying thefuture looks right, which is
validating your identity onchain, putting deeds and things
on chain, rwbs, all this goodstuff.
It's going to become more andmore important to prove that
you're a real human being andprove your identity.
And so you know we're eithergoing to come to the crossroads
where you're going to have tosuck it up and, you know, either
dock straight up or, like Isaid, great solutions like this,
(34:48):
you know, depending on how manypeople integrate and, you know,
actually use it to validateyour identity, I think will be,
you know, a big welcome additionto the space.
That's something that we'regoing to see a lot of again for
proof of humanity.
And then, as I said, it's agreat use case for naming and
personalization With thisparticular platform.
Once you scan your fingerprintor your thumb and it gives you
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basically that token, that proofof humanity, they actually
create the EVM address for youand then it's stored there In
this particular platform.
Again, now, in order to shareto somebody that you have, this
proof of identity token or proofof humanity token, you'd have
to share that long, complicatedcrypto address or an app or a
tap or anything like that.
And again, great use case nowfor naming and personalization
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of this we discussed with themHuman being has a palm.
It needs a name, and so TLDRagain.
And big conclusion is that,basically, ai technology the
continuation of automation isgoing to be doubled down on as
far as development, but as eachone of these things continues to
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get more traction, they createmore things Again, deep end is
going to create millions,billions and trillions of
products that are all going tobe tokenized.
They're all going to havewallets, they're all going to be
connected to a smart contract,which means they're all going to
need a name AI agents themillions, billions and some
predict trillions of agents thatwill one day exist that will
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handle everything again, fromcustomer service, productivity,
marketing and sales to anymanner of DGN thing, that a bot
will be invented to do.
Again, a lot of these bots aretokenized, a lot of these bots
have their own wallets becausethey're automated and able to
create their own business.
And because they have their ownwallets and because they're
tokenized, they are going to bea name.
(36:41):
And then the same thing foranybody who's onboarding through
the space, through anymechanism that's receiving a
blockchain address, that wantsto use us in any capacity that
is joining any community.
They will all need aname.
That is basically the hill thatI've been standing on the
entire time.
I've been out here and againgetting a lot of great reception
(37:02):
because it makes sense.
So, metaphor 2025, I believe,and what I'm bullish on from
what I've come from from EveDenver.
Better for 2025, I believe, andwhat I'm bullish on from what
I've come from from Eve DenverD-Pen if you're not already
involved in any of thoseprojects, if you're not already
familiar with Helium, if you'realready not familiar with any of
those processes, I woulddefinitely start now.
Ai Agents obviously, superbullish on AI Agents.
(37:25):
I love continuing exploringthat and sharing that as much as
possible.
Big future Love the way myagents currently are working
right now, again for a goodexample of what I'm talking
about.
As far as you know thedifferent pockets and ways that
you know agents can communicate,market for you, you know that
maybe you just won't see as ahuman being, right, you know?
(37:47):
Feel free to look at the twoagents that I've built Web3
Digital ID and Web3 Domains AI.
Yeah, both of those are verygood examples of agents that are
out there doing the work.
Also, too kind of to my ownhorn, these agents have been.
Both of these agents have beenlive a little less than three
weeks, I want to say, if I'm notmistaken, and they've already
(38:09):
gotten me 400 Twitter follows aswell.
So them continuously tagging meevery time they make a comment
has been very good as well.
So the way you optimize themand the way you make them work
can be, again, extremelyproductive, especially for
smaller teams, one-man teams, ifyou've got an individual TLD or
a bunch of TLDs or anythinglike
(38:30):
that.
Again, the last workshop wentthrough some of the strategies
that you can use them for and,yeah, I think this year's
conference is a great showcaseof, again, the meta of what's to
come.
The future is definitely bright, it's automated and, as I said,
every single thing is going toneed a name.
So best thing to do, movingforward, is find your place and
(38:53):
start communicating your value.
Yeah, definitely lookingforward to what this year has to
bring.
Looking forward to some of theupcoming announcements, also
fromFreename.
We are not doing the Web3Domains Whale Talk today,
obviously because I'm out herein Denver, but next week's Whale
Talk will be a very excitingone, again, talking about the
latest release and some of theones we have coming up.
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It's a very bullish space, avery bullish time.
If you're still out here, youcan catch me here on this last
day.
I'd love to meet up withanybody in the main event or any
of the side events, but, yeah,if you're tuning in and catching
this kind of watching from thesideline, I hope that this alpha
I dropped will help make you asproductive as it's making me.
And definitely thank you guysall for attending this Tech Talk
(39:36):
.
Again, tech Talk will be onevery major podcast there in a
couple of days Apple, spotify,iheartradio, et cetera.
You can reach us attechtalkhost.
And again, thank you guys forattending this Friday's tech
talk.
And, yeah, look forward totalking to you guys next week.
Enjoy your day and focus onyour mission, your condition.
(39:58):
Happy to meet you.
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