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June 25, 2025 61 mins

On this TechMagic episode, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the complex relationship between humans and AI, from Cathy’s immersive week dating four AI boyfriends to growing concerns around AI-generated content. Cathy dives into the strange world of vibe coding and discovers anyone can gamify the pitfalls of the dating scene. The discussion spans Meta’s new smart eyewear partnerships with Oakley and Prada, VRChat’s innovative brand integration with Sawhorse Studios, and alarming developments in military AI contracts. With Adam Davis McGee joining the conversation, the trio also shares insider highlights from AWE (Augmented World Expo). Together, they explore how AI is reshaping creativity, jobs, and relationships, while emphasizing the importance of preserving human connection and authenticity in a rapidly evolving digital landscape.


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Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler
  • 02:48 Dating AI: Inside the Experiment with Four Virtual Boyfriends
  • 08:24 The Limitations of Perfect: When AI Gets Too Performative
  • 17:22 Digital Dopamine: The Psychology of AI Relationships
  • 23:48 Tech Meets Military: The Rise of AI Defense Contracts
  • 31:10 AI Content Saturation and the Return to Human Connection
  • 39:22 Doubling Down on Human Skills in an AI World
  • 45:13 Meta's Smart Glasses and VRChat's Brand Evolution
  • 52:04 Nostalgia Goes Virtual: Classic 3D Experiences in VR
  • 56:45 Final Thoughts: Finding Balance Between Tech and Human Connection



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