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October 22, 2025 38 mins

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl (yep, she’s back) and Lee Kebler open Pandora’s box - the tech edition. This episode’s all about navigating tech disruptions and learning to roll with the punches. From the AWS outage and OpenAI's controversial content policies, to Sora's impact on content creation, Pinterest's AI content controls, and Apple's quiet Vision Pro updates, they deep dive into it all! The AI landscape is evolving faster than you can say the word and so are its implications on content, creativity and commerce. 


Just like Cathy’s travels from Singapore to South Africa, your favourite Tech Magic pair are jetsetting into the world of technology, offering a global perspective on where we’re heading and the ethical questions we need to address.


Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more.


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics:


  • [00:00] Intro to TechMagic 
  • [01:15] What the Hell AWS? How a Global Outage Caused Chaos
  • [04:30] Going Global: Tech Perspectives from Singapore to South Africa
  • [08:00] OpenAI's Sora 2: Questions of Purpose and Ethics
  • [14:30] Pinterest Takes a Stand Against AI-Generated Content
  • [17:00] OpenAI's Controversial Move into Adult Content
  • [25:30] Apple's Quiet Hardware Updates and Vision Pro Changes
  • [31:00] Gaming Evolution: From Atari to Interactive Documentaries
  • [35:00] Final Thoughts and Future Conference Plans



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