All Episodes

April 3, 2025 42 mins

In this episode, author of "Systemology" and business systems expert, David Jenyns, discusses the importance of systemizing business processes, even in the nuanced field of law. Jenyns debunks the myth that legal work is too bespoke to be systemized, explaining how just like any other business, documenting legal workflows unlocks scalability and creativity. He shares his journey from digital SEO agency owner to becoming a systems expert and outlines the seven steps of his Systemology framework.

  • Key Topics:

    • The importance of documenting processes in any business, including legal services.

    • How systemization can create space for creativity in legal work.

    • The Systemology framework and its seven steps: Define, Assign, Extract, Organize, Integrate, Scale, and Optimize.  

    • The role of a "systems champion" in implementing a systems culture.

    • Addressing common misconceptions about systemizing legal work.

    • Practical tips for getting started with systemizing processes.

  • Timestamps:

    • [00:00:00] Introduction and guest introduction: David Jenyns

    • [00:02:00] David Jenyns's background and journey to systemology

    • [00:08:00] The importance of a systems culture

    • [00:12:00] Addressing the question: Why systemize?

    • [00:15:00] Systemizing bespoke work, specifically in the legal field

    • [00:20:00] The seven steps of Systemology

    • [00:21:00] Step 1: Define

    • [00:28:00] Step 2: Assign

    • [00:30:00] Step 3: Extract

    • [00:33:00] Step 4: Organize

    • [00:37:00] Step 5: Integrate

    • [00:46:00] Step 6: Scale

    • [00:50:00] Step 7: Optimize

    • [00:54:00] Where to start with systemizing processes

    • [00:56:00] Conclusion

  • Resources Mentioned:

    • Systemology by David Jenyns

    • System Hub software (systemhub.com)

    • The E-Myth by Michael Gerber

    • Technically Legal Podcast

    • Systemology Podcast (Mentioned interview with Crow Estate Planni

Mark as Played

Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

24/7 News: The Latest

24/7 News: The Latest

The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.

Therapy Gecko

Therapy Gecko

An unlicensed lizard psychologist travels the universe talking to strangers about absolutely nothing. TO CALL THE GECKO: follow me on https://www.twitch.tv/lyleforever to get a notification for when I am taking calls. I am usually live Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays but lately a lot of other times too. I am a gecko.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.