Can AI take over the roles of creative professionals, and what are the scariest tech trends we should be wary of this Halloween? As we uncover the answers, we’re joined by Nick Espinosa, who shares his insights into the eerie world of modern technology. From Netflix's Moments feature, which promises much more than it delivers, to the haunting possibility of hacked robot vacuums communicating beyond the grave, there's no shortage of tech horror stories to keep you on the edge of your seat. Gwen Way also brings a gadget that blurs the line between tricks and treats, adding to our Halloween-themed tech tales.
Expect a whirlwind of unsettling tales as we explore the controversies surrounding AI replacing journalists at a Polish radio station. This chapter raises important questions about the future of human roles in the creative industry. Plus, a peculiar story from a Chinese aquarium leads us to discuss the chasm between reality and expectations, as visitors find themselves let down by a supposedly giant shark exhibit. Meanwhile, the hacking of Chinese-made EcoVax robot vacuums on American soil becomes a chilling reminder of the vulnerabilities that lurk in the gadgets we rely on.
As we wrap up, heed our warnings about cybersecurity risks during the holiday season, with cybercriminals refining their tactics to outsmart us. We reflect on the impact of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act and celebrate significant milestones in internet history. For our whiskey enthusiasts, Michter’s US*1 Barrel Strength Rye 2024 whiskey makes a surprising appearance, proving to be a treat rather than a trick. Join us for a thrilling mix of tech, tales, and tastings as we celebrate the spooky season and ponder the future of our digital world.
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All right Today on Tech Time with Nathan Mumm.
Buckle up as we dive in thelatest technology news and
stories.
Here's what we got coming upfor the show today.
Today is our spooky Halloweenepisode and, like clockwork, we
have Nick Espinosa on the showto talk about the scariest
things in technology in ourhaunted Halloween episode.
First, is Netflix Momentsreally what they say it is for
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To share your favorite sceneswith friends.
We're also going to be talkingabout this Chinese aquarium that
stunned to discover that theirwhale was Zonkers.
All right.
Then we dive into an issueplaguing the BBC weather website
, which caused quite a stir, andguess what?
Robot vacuum speaking to youfrom the grave.
Is that possible?
Yes, it is.
Now we're going to discuss howthese things happen and more.
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We also have Gwen Way on for agadget.
Is this going to be a trick ora treat gadget?
Finally, we explore thedevelopment of a possible Skynet
system, just like theTerminator movies.
In addition, of course, we haveour standard features,
including our technology fail,the week of possible, nathan
Nugget and, of course, our pick,pick of the day whiskey tasting
to see if our selected whiskeypick of the day gets zero, one
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or two thumbs up at the end ofthe show.
But now it's time for thelatest headlines in the world of
technology here are our toptechnology stories of the week
all right, welcome to our toptechnology stories of the week.
Number one Netflix is having amoment, but its new feature,
Moments, is not one of them.
(03:09):
Let's go to Corinne Westlandfor more on this story.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
This week, netflix launched a new feature called
Moments that allows subscribersto share their favorite moments
from the platform's massivelibrary of content.
The only problem is it doesn'tactually do that.
Here's how Moments, currentlyavailable for the iOS app and
coming soon for Android, ismeant to work.
Subscribers can tap the screenat any time while watching
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Netflix content on their phoneand find a Moments tab in the
bottom left corner.
They then have the option tohit Save and capture whichever
scene they're watching, eitherin a library of saved moments
accessible in the my Netflixsection of the app, or in a
message or social media postwhich they can send out by
tapping the familiar paperairplane-shaped icon beneath
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each moment.
The problem, though, is it isnot that simple, nathan.
Can you explain your experiencemore Back to you in the studio?
Mike Gorday (04:06):
It doesn't even sound simple when it spells it
out.
Nathan Mumm (04:10):
That was the easy version, so let me just see so
Netflix now.
I hope that this actually takeson and they have to have some
development work.
I do want to say I love yourhat Before I get into the story.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It's our Halloween episode.
Nathan Mumm (04:23):
I got Mario here and you know what od behind the
board's got luigi, so yeah,she's even got a stash going all
right now.
Let me just tell you.
So, netflix their hope is toideally have a system where if
I'm watching a netflix showlet's say stranger things or
something on netflix, and all ofa sudden I wanted to share it
with you, I could click onhere's a clip, share 30 to 60
seconds of that clip.
(04:43):
You could then watch it on likefacebook or whatever platform
you have, and then you couldlaugh at it.
We could all comment about it.
Right, well, that's not how ithappens to work.
Flicks talk yeah, I meanbecause you see memes all the
time right, little 30 secondmemes at the office and, and the
idea would be a cool idea.
But here's the problem that youhave.
First of all, you can't reallyshare 30 to second clips online.
(05:07):
When you share it, it juststarts at that place that you
share.
Both of you have to have, ofcourse, a Netflix subscription,
which is what they're trying tohave happen to everybody.
To get a Netflix subscriptionso that everybody has their
service, you both have to be onthe phone with the iOS app right
now.
So I can't have.
If you have an Android phone,which you do, and I have my
Apple phone and I send it to youand you clicked it on Facebook,
(05:29):
you'd be hosed.
So you have to have the sameApple and then what happens is
when we actually click on it toshare it, all it does is it
shares a link.
Now YouTube have you ever shareda video on YouTube?
You can start it at like 30seconds.
In 20 seconds, in Sure, why not?
This is a feature thatYouTube's had for maybe 10 years
or something like that.
I mean, it's not a new feature,but you could go in halfway in
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a video.
You click share, you share it,starting at 32 seconds, and then
the person watches it.
This is all that Netflix has,but it's so complicated that it
just isn't opening up a webbrowser.
You have to actually have theapp, you have to be logged in
and you have to have theirspecial on your phone app only
to work.
So let me just tell you there'stoo many ifs and thens to have
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the system work.
It is absolutely not easy touse, but a great idea.
So this is what I want to sayto Netflix Unfortunate, your
moments link that you have rightnow is not easy to use.
No one's gonna adopt it, butkeep working on your technology.
It's not like you're just oneof the third largest media
companies in the world, but ifyou were um, then maybe you call
(06:33):
minutes.
They should be minutes insteadof instead of moments.
Keep on working on this, makeit so it works.
Please go to youtube right nowsee how they have it done and
figure out a way to do it sothat both people have a
subscription and can have itwork and I think you have
yourself a system.
But until then, moments is nota shining moment.
Mike Gorday (06:53):
I think you should just not do it at all, just stop
trying.
Nathan Mumm (06:57):
Stop trying.
Yeah, but did you do it here?
Netflix does have a Squid Gamecoming out at the end of this
year.
We have a Squid Game coming outat the end of this year.
Big deal, squid Game 2.
Mike Gorday (07:04):
Okay well, I did not even watch the first one.
Nathan Mumm (07:06):
You didn't watch the first one.
Mike Gorday (07:07):
I don't have a Netflix.
Nathan Mumm (07:09):
Well, if I showed you a link, you'd just be tough.
Mike Gorday (07:11):
You'd just be like Well, yeah, I guess it sucks to
be me Well no that doesn't no,or it sucks to be Netflix.
(07:32):
I don't know, you go, so netflixcan keep it up.
But, uh, swing and a miss thistime.
All right, you got story numbertwo here, mike.
Yeah, you remember that showmax headroom.
I do remember max headroom, max, yeah.
So this is the first thing thatpopped into my head when I read
this.
But uh, in poland, yeah, uh, aradio station has replaced this
journalist with ai presentersand that's not drawing a lot of
happy, happy news from thepublic.
A Polish radio station hastriggered a lot of controversy
after dismissing its journalistsand relaunching this week with
(07:55):
AI-generated presenters.
Weeks after letting thejournalists go OFF, radio Krakow
relaunched this week with whatit said was the first experiment
in Poland in which journalistsare virtual characters created
by AI.
I'm not a cat, oh, I rememberthat.
Yeah, the station in thesouthern city of Krakow said its
three avatars are designed toreach younger listeners.
(08:18):
The change got nationwideattention after a journalist and
film critic who until recentlyhosted a show on the station,
published an open letter Tuesdayprotesting the replacement of
employees of artificialintelligence.
It is a dangerous precedentthat hit us all and to a world
in which experienced employeesassociate with the media sector
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for years and people employed increative industries will be
replaced by machines.
So here it comes.
There you go.
Skynet is on the move sectorfor years, and people employed
in creative industries will bereplaced by machines.
So here it comes sky net.
Sky net is on the move.
Uh demski worked at off offradio crack out from february
2022 carrying out interviewerinterviews with ukrainians
fleeing the war until august,when he was among about a dozen
(09:01):
journalists who were let go.
He said the move was especiallyshocking because the
broadcaster is ataxpayer-supported public
station oh, like a PBS station.
Nathan Mumm (09:09):
Yeah, so a PBS station decided to replace all
their staff, so America wasn'tthe first.
Mike Gorday (09:17):
Poland actually decided they were going to take
the first swipe at replacinghuman beings with live avatars.
Nathan Mumm (09:23):
So this isn't only going to go so far, right?
I mean, we like having apersonal connection with people,
right?
Mike Gorday (09:28):
I don't want to be turning on king five news, our
local news affiliate, and see abunch of ai people on there well
, that's why I thought about maxheadroom, because I remember, I
remember that back in the day,yeah, and max headroom kind of
is this idea of AI people, yeah,right, yeah, I mean it was cool
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back then.
It's not that cool now.
Nathan Mumm (09:51):
Not when it's actually happening, all right.
Well, we got story number threehere.
Just when he thought it wassafe to go back into the water
park, angry fans ripped anaquarium after its much-hyped
giant shark was not what itseemed to be.
Just when he thought it wassafe to go back, all of a sudden
we have a deepfake.
That was announced at the ShowMe World in Shenzhen, china,
(10:13):
which opened on October 1stfollowing a five-year renovation
.
So this was the Show Me SeaWorld in China was shut down for
five years.
They did a bunch of renovation.
Now, during the week-long dryrun of the 645,000 square feet
of Ocean Zoo that attracted over100,000 visitors paying $40 to
(10:34):
enter, guess what they had?
The exhibitors were talkingabout a big whale shark exhibit
that was over 60 feet in length.
However, many felt cheatedafter they realized the
so-called Regal Sea Beats wasactually just a mechanical
doppelganger.
There you go, there you go.
So all of a sudden, it was justsent to nothing.
Now, photos taken from the tankglass show the fishy robot,
(10:58):
which sports obvious gaps in itstorso where its segments have
been connected, evoking a propthat looks like a cheesy sci-fi
channel shark movie.
Aquarian reps claim that theycreated the robotic whale shark
to adhere to laws prohibitingthe trade of genuine artifacts.
This is definitely a Halloweentrick on most of those that
attended, yeah that's funny.
Mike Gorday (11:17):
Well it's not funny , but it's funny.
Nathan Mumm (11:19):
So you're going to go to a zoo in China and you're
going to see dogs dressed up aspandas, and you're now going to
go to an aquarium and you'regoing to see a robot dressed up
like a shark.
Come on now.
Clearly people aren't going togo and pay money to see a
robotic shark.
Probably that robotic sharkprobably costs more money than
it would have to have two orthree of the real life sharks in
(11:40):
there running and doing stuff.
Mike Gorday (11:42):
I have to applaud them for going out of their way
to do something to you know.
Save the wildlife, because Idon't know if you know what a
whale shark is?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It's a rare, it's the biggest fish in the world.
Mike Gorday (11:55):
Okay, yeah, they should have said that's what
they were doing.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah.
Mike Gorday (12:01):
Or maybe they should have talked to.
Universal Studios and you know,gotten.
Nathan Mumm (12:08):
Was it Josh or Bruno?
Yeah, Bruno from the.
Was it Bruno?
Is that the Nemo one?
Mike Gorday (12:13):
No, no, no, the shark from Jaws.
Nathan Mumm (12:15):
It has a name.
I can't remember what it is.
I don't remember Jaws, but Ithink Bruno's from.
Ody (12:18):
Bruce.
Nathan Mumm (12:19):
Bruce Bruce that's right.
Mike Gorday (12:21):
I don't know what you're talking about.
Nathan Mumm (12:23):
Well, that is our top technology stories of the
week.
When we return, Nick Espinosafrom Security Finanics will join
us to discuss the scariesttechnology items this year for
our spooky Halloween episode.
You will definitely befrightened.
Stay tuned to find out thisinformation and more.
You're listening to Tech Timewith Nathan Mumm.
See you after the commercialbreak.
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Welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm.
Our weekly show covers the toptechnology subjects without a
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We verify the facts and we doit with a sense of humor, in
less than 60 minutes and, ofcourse, with a little whiskey on
our side.
Ody (13:56):
Now, today, mark Gregoire, our whiskey connoisseur, is out
trick-or-treating, so we have toget our whiskey from our
producer, odie hello hello, okay, supply us with whiskey so
today we are drinking mitchell'sus one single barrel strength
right, 2024 uh, from directlyfrom their website.
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It is a butterscotch andcinnamon with a hint of cherries
on the nose, warming rich,toasty, vanilla and caramel up
front, with a dry oaky spice onthe finish.
The stats, uh.
The company is mitra'sdistillery from chatham imports.
The distillation is undiscloseddistillery in kentucky.
(14:41):
It's a straight ryeclassification at least four
years.
It's been aged with a 55.4%proof or ABV and 110 proof.
The mash bill is undisclosed,rumored low rye rye and it goes
for about $110 for 750milliliters.
Mike Gorday (15:03):
All right.
Well, it's got to be a low-ryeride, because I like it.
I like it too.
Nathan Mumm (15:07):
I thought it was really good.
Actually, this is notrick-or-treat, this is all
treat for me.
I tell you that this is good.
Mike Gorday (15:14):
You're really going to go.
We're going with the Halloweentheme.
Nathan Mumm (15:18):
Everything's trick-or-treat or spooky or this
.
Mike Gorday (15:23):
Yeah, that's right.
Nathan Mumm (15:23):
I'm going to let that bone go.
You should put on the other hat.
Are you going to put on yourother hat that you had going on?
Mike Gorday (15:27):
We should do that during a commercial break.
I think I'll just leave thatright there.
Maybe, I'll find somebody andhook them like dead by daylight.
Nathan Mumm (15:37):
Put them up on a chain.
Alright, okay, Real quick.
Ody (15:42):
Mark does say please do not forget to like and subscribe.
Nathan Mumm (15:45):
In Well with our first.
Ody (15:45):
Real quick.
Mark does say please do notforget to like and subscribe.
In addition, please comment andlet us know if you have a
whiskey you would like us toreview.
Also, heaven can wait.
Drink responsibly.
Mike Gorday (15:51):
Tell him to get back to his, convert, his,
whatever he's doing Histrick-or-treating.
Nathan Mumm (15:56):
His trick-or-treating event that
he's at.
All right, he's at a conventionlearning about technology,
learning about technology, soI'm sure he's having a great
time.
All right, what was our firstwhiskey?
Well maybe he's not having agreat time.
Mike Gorday (16:07):
Conventions are where you usually drink.
Nathan Mumm (16:10):
That's right.
That's our first whiskeytasting completed.
Let's move on to our featuresegment.
Today, our technology expert,nick Espinosa, is joining the
show.
He's an expert in cybersecurityand network infrastructure and
he's consulted with clientsranging from small business to
the Fortune 100 level.
In 1998, at the age of 19, nickfounded Windy City Networks,
which was later acquired in 2015.
He then created SecurityFanatics, where he is the chief
(16:32):
security fanatic.
We welcome Nick to the Comcastvideo stream to start our next
segment.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Welcome to the segment we call Ask the Experts
With our tech time radio expertespinoza all right, welcome to
the show.
Nathan Mumm (16:49):
You know this is our tradition.
You have been on every singletech time radio's halloween
edition and you know what it wascoming on up.
I just came back from japan andwe're putting things together
and I apologize for sending outa late invite.
Thank you for making sure youcan attend.
This is our tradition that weenjoy immensely.
Let me tell you that.
Nick Espinosa (17:08):
Yeah, I know Happy to be here.
Always enjoy this one.
This is always a fun one.
Nathan Mumm (17:12):
This is because we're going to talk about the
scariest stories.
Mike Gorday (17:16):
It was that this is the Drink More episode.
This is the Drink More episode.
Nathan Mumm (17:20):
What's interesting is that you'd think that these
stories were throughout thewhole year, but most of these
stories are just recent and arestill some of the scariest
stories of the year.
Nick Espinosa (17:28):
Yeah yeah, and I went back looking.
I'm like, okay, let's see whatI can find for the year after.
Since the last Halloween andsure enough, they're all from
like the last two weeks I waslike oh, my God.
I don't know what that saysabout next week, but here we go.
Nathan Mumm (17:43):
There you go.
That's right With the politicalstuff we're going to be talking
about that.
Well, let's talk with a subjectthat's really sucky.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
So robot vacuums you like that little pun there?
There you go.
Nathan Mumm (17:55):
Robot vacuums have been hacked and the attackers
are yelling through the speakers.
Nothing like an eerie soundcoming out of a vacuum in a
closet late at night.
Explain what is going on.
Nick Espinosa (18:07):
Yeah, yeah.
So this is an interesting oneand, quite frankly, a little bit
terrifying if you've got kids,because robot vacuums across
multiple US cities were actuallyhacked in basically the space
of a few days and the attackerwas physically controlling them
and, to your point, it wasyelling obscenities through the
onboard speakers.
Now what we're talking about isa robot vacuum, not iRobot that
(18:29):
is now owned by Amazon, but aChinese-made one called EcoVax
that apparently we're buying inthe United States.
And here's a fun example asreported by the ABC Now.
Daniel Swenson, who apparentlyis a lawyer in Minnesota, was
watching TV we're going toassume the Vikings when his
robot started to malfunctionQuote it sounded like a broken
(18:50):
up radio signal or something.
You could hear snippets, maybea voice, so he thought basically
something was screwed up.
He checked the app, saw thatsomebody was accessing his live
camera feed and remote controlfeature for his robot, so he
reset his password, rebooted therobot and, of course, it
started to move almostimmediately again, and then a
voice started screaming racialslurs through the robot speakers
(19:12):
at his 13-year-old son.
So good times on that.
This is obviously another caseof just you know a cheap Chinese
product that is a knockoff ofyou know something that just
doesn't have good vulnerabilitycontrol because people are
getting into these things leftand right.
Nathan Mumm (19:26):
So do you have an actual model number of which
unit that was?
Nick Espinosa (19:30):
Yeah, it was like the Deets 9X or something along
those lines.
I don't have it in my notes,but yeah, it was like the Deets
9, something like that.
Nathan Mumm (19:40):
So it wasn't a Roomba or a standard, Not a
Roomba Ecovacs.
Nick Espinosa (19:45):
Okay, so it wasn't a room, bar or a standard
uh, not a room, but ecovax.
Okay, if you have an eco,basically if you have an ecovax
robot vacuum, you want to checkthis out.
I don't care what your model is.
Mike Gorday (19:50):
Odds are the vulnerabilities everywhere I'm a
little split on whether that Imean.
Nathan Mumm (19:55):
That would be kind of a fun prank to do right, you
want to be on the other side,where you start and start
talking to people yeah, butdriving, driving somebody's
vacuum around and yelling atthem.
Nick Espinosa (20:06):
Yeah, maybe not obscenities, but yeah yeah, but
this happened to google justbefore the pandemic where people
had insecure nest, you know,like the nest cameras and
thermostats, and attackers arebreaking into google accounts
and taking it over and there'slike literally a recorded video
of this guy talking like athree-year-old little girl in
her crib about how he's SantaClaus, you know, and all these
(20:28):
kinds of things, which is aterrifying prospect.
If you're a parent, right, youdon't want some jerk talking to
your, you know, your toddler,you know, telling them they're
Santa Claus or Jesus or whateverit was, and so it really just
underscores that we need goodcontrols in our life when it
comes to our cloud-basedtechnologies.
Mike Gorday (20:44):
Imagine you know your Roomba, coming up to you
and going Hi, I'm Chucky.
Nick Espinosa (20:50):
Well, I mean, if I was controlling it, I'd say
kill all humans, kill all humans.
But there you go.
Nathan Mumm (20:59):
I mean, you know what?
That's what happens sometimeswhen you buy cheap stuff online.
So if you don't know whereyou're buying it from and you
buy yourself a cheap vacuum.
Yeah, you kind of.
Yeah, you got to be carefulwhere you're buying your stuff
from I mean even cables onamazon if you buy cheap, cheap
cables for 3d stuff and and uhvideo cameras or especially
(21:19):
audio stuff, if you get itreally cheap, I mean there's a
chance that they can have someknockoff stuff out there A that
normally doesn't work good, buttwo that can be doing recording
and screen caps and a lot ofdifferent stuff.
So you got to know where you'rebuying your stuff from.
All right moving on.
We have an election that'scoming up.
I don't know if you've heardabout that, but it seems to be
getting some news about thatacross the nation and all of a
(21:40):
sudden we have some conspiracytheories.
That are popping up, of course,with any election that you have
, but it does seem that theTrump and Harris campaigns have
been targeted.
Explain what is happening here,Nick.
Nick Espinosa (21:51):
Yeah, yeah, and interestingly enough, my daily
video and podcast today was onFacebook, helping essentially
the extremists with theircoordination for after the
election.
So this is obviously very closeto home, right, and we are
almost at the election.
But here's what's happeningBoth the Trump and Harris
campaigns have been targeteddirectly for their cell phones
(22:13):
and, according to the AssociatedPress, chinese hackers engaged
in a broader espionage operationagainst Donald Trump, obviously
running as a Republican, hisrunning mate JD Vance, and then
people associated with theDemocratic campaign of Kamala
Harris.
And it's not 100% clear atleast nobody's saying what data
might have been accessed ortaken, because this is an
(22:33):
ongoing investigation and theFBI statement did not confirm
the identities of theindividuals in both camps and
both campaigns.
By virtue of that, but theysaid they were investigating a
quote unauthorized access tocommercial telecommunications
infrastructure by actorsaffiliated with the People's
Republic of China.
And I think it's important toremember for the record that
(22:54):
when former President Trump wasin office as President Trump, he
refused to trade in hispersonal mobile phone for a
secure one Because, remember,like the NSA, cia, they secure
phones.
This was a whole stink withPresident Obama back in the day
and apparently Chineseintelligence was able to break
in to then President Trump'spersonal phone that he was using
(23:14):
to tweet all the time, as weknow he did, and so this isn't
the first time.
He has he, he has, he's, he'sbeen targeted Right, he's been
targeted multiple times, andthere's also no doubt that that
Vice President Harris and she'sthe current vice president has
also had her share of attempts,but as far as we know, they've
been unsuccessful, and, as faras we also know, she traded in
her personal phone for thesecure phone that our government
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leaders typically have.
So take that for what it'sworth and good luck to us all
next week what's that?
Mike Gorday (23:41):
well, they're, they're really.
Maybe we should hack theirwhale shark, their whale shark
and talk to you and talk to theaquarium goers there and yell
stuff at them.
Yes there, you go there you go,so okay.
Nathan Mumm (23:55):
So, Mr Excited over here, Mr Mike, he's going to be
excited about this.
The next one well, candidateswill soon be commanders-in-chief
of our military, and what'sreally glad about that is at
least we don't have anyautonomous weapons that are out
there like Terminator 2, or dowe?
Nick Espinosa (24:17):
Oh, we do, and I should say they're starting to
come and we're actually not thefirst to deploy these.
But here's what's happening.
And here's the thing, becausewhen it comes to autonomous
weaponry, silicon Valley hasusually erred on the side of
caution and, to be fair, thestance of the US government
historically has been prettyambiguous on the use of
autonomous weapons.
These are weapons for therecord that can essentially make
(24:38):
decisions for themselves andthen execute Like oh, you are
the enemy coming over the cliff,I'm going to shoot at you
Hopefully you're not a friendly,that kind of thing.
But this mentality of ambiguityis starting to actually change.
The US, for the record, doesnot ban any company here in the
United States from actuallymaking fully autonomous lethal
(24:58):
weapons, and it does notexplicitly ban them from selling
things to foreign countries aswell.
And so let's talk about to yourpoint, nathan, what I'm now
calling Terminator 1.0, because,why not, I'll meet you in the
bunker in five years as we'reshooting at these things Now.
Last month, palantir'sco-founder and annual investor
his name is John Lonsdalebasically showed a willingness
(25:21):
on stage to consider fullyautonomous weapons, and Palantir
would be one of those companiesthat would be pioneering this.
So at an event, basically atthe think tank Hudson Institute,
lonsdale, presented rather ahypothetical where China had
embraced AI weapons.
But the US has to quote pressthe button every time it fires.
And so, by virtue of that, heencourages US policymakers to
(25:44):
embrace a more flexible approach, if you will, to basically AI
in weapons.
Now his other co-founder, vanDrouel Palmer, luc Lucky, also
had an openness to these kindsof weapons.
And Lucky went one step further.
That, I think, should kind ofterrify all of us, because
during a talk earlier this monthat Pepperdine University in
(26:05):
California, he basically talkedabout US adversaries that, quote
, use phrases that sound reallygood in soundbite.
Well, you can't agree with arobot that a robot should never
be able to decide who lives anddies.
And my point to them is where'sthe moral high ground in the
landmine that can't tell thedifference between a school bus
(26:26):
full of kids and a Russian tank.
And so, by virtue of that, herewe are, and this isn't the
first time we've seen this theRussians are moving towards
autonomous weaponry in their warin ukraine, the chinese are,
the south korean have deployedum uh autonomous weapons along
the demilitarized zone againstnorth korea, and obviously those
are a lot more rudimentary thanthe more advanced ai we have
(26:47):
now.
So this is coming, terminatorsare on their way and the
ukraines are working on aidrones.
So a whole new world ed Ed 209.
Mike Gorday (26:56):
Remember, you know where that's from.
What's that?
Nathan Mumm (26:58):
Ed 209.
What's that from RoboCop?
You're a big RoboCop fan,aren't you?
Uh, yeah, yeah.
Mike Gorday (27:07):
It's one of the things that I watched.
It was.
It was way ahead of his timewhen it came out.
Nathan Mumm (27:12):
Yeah yeah, time when it came out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right allright.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Well, guess what we?
Nathan Mumm (27:18):
got to end on a positive note here.
So finally, the holiday seasonis upon us.
So at least we have the peaceand confidence that if we're
searching websites on the webfor holiday shopping, that we
have nothing to be concernedabout.
Nick Espinosa (27:29):
Right nick, oh my god you know why do I always
have to be the debbie downer onthis show?
Speaker 7 (27:34):
can I just?
Nick Espinosa (27:34):
can I just ask that question?
Yeah, let's end on a positivenote and talk about phishing.
Okay, because cyber criminalsare now offering tools to help
other cyber criminals basicallyhelp their own phishing pages
avoid detection by our securitycontrols and our security tools.
(27:55):
Basically, these services aredesigned to prevent our security
crawlers, meaning those threatdetection companies that are
looking for these phishing sitesso they can add them to
databases.
So we can't go there.
They basically now have toolsthat are designed to prevent
these crawlers from identifyingphishing pages and therefore
putting them on block lists.
So, by filtering outcybersecurity bots and
essentially disguising phishingpages from these types of
(28:17):
scanners, these toolsessentially extend the lifespan
of malicious sites.
And to your point, we're comingup to the holiday season, so
click here for that toy thatnobody could get right, and
you're going to have desperateparents looking for whatever the
tickle-me-elmo is this yeardoing these kinds of things, and
oftentimes their threatdetection systems they're
relying on to block the phishingsite may simply not see it.
(28:39):
That's the thing, and here'sthe issue.
For us, good guys, these toolsare easy to use.
They allow any unskilledattacker to essentially increase
their effectiveness of theirattacks for relatively low price
.
So happy shopping everybody,because that's essentially
what's happening here and it'sabsolutely nuts all right, well,
thanks, you feel much better no, to end on, not so much.
(29:04):
I got, I need to go.
Mike Gorday (29:06):
I need to go and get a you know, a chinese vacuum
cleaner, just so I can havesomebody to talk to me while I'm
happy to yell at you.
Nathan Mumm (29:17):
All right, Nick.
Well, it's always great to talkabout.
These are, of course, not onlysome of the subjects that you
guys work on for your security.
Tell everybody else how theycan get in touch with you after
the show off show.
How would somebody get in touchwith you?
Nick Espinosa (29:32):
Yeah, absolutely, you can like share.
Follow me on Facebook andTwitter at Nick AES or slash
nick espinoza.
Follow me on youtube as well,and I'm always putting out
content, always happy to hangout uh, thank you so much for
coming on the show.
Thanks nick, I can't wait tillnext year's halloween edition
either.
Nathan Mumm (29:46):
All right, there goes, nick.
Thank you.
Oh boy, it's not.
Isn't that positive to thinkabout.
Mike Gorday (29:51):
All those great things are yeah, I just in the
last two weeks.
I'm just filled with positivityright now, are you?
Yeah, I came in complainingabout technology.
Nathan Mumm (30:00):
I'm going to leave swearing it all out now, but you
do have whiskey to drink duringthe show, so that will calm you
down, right.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
No, not, really, Not really.
Mike Gorday (30:09):
It'll just make it easier for me to throw my
computer across the room when Iget home, or whatever I'm going
to do.
Nathan Mumm (30:14):
Well, just be careful it doesn't hit that
vacuum, because it could betalking to you.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
All right, well, that ends our Ask the.
Nathan Mumm (30:19):
Expert with Nick Espinosa.
Now up, though, we have ourGadgets in Gear, gal Gwen Way.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
What's new in our Gadgets in Gear.
Nathan Mumm (30:30):
All right, we're excited to have both Nick and
Gwen on the show today, so Ican't wait to have that taken
care of.
So let me just tell you, gwenis coming to our Halloween
special.
She has a gadget and gear andwe want to have all the
listeners kind of listen to seewhat we have going on here, to
see if this is something that isa great idea or not great idea.
(30:51):
All right, are we able to getGwen up on the screen there?
Gwen, is your camera on?
Gwen Way (30:56):
My camera is on and it seems to be giving us
problems.
I consider this an absolutetrick.
Thanks technology.
Nathan Mumm (31:04):
That's okay, we can hear from you here.
That's not a problem, we haveyou there the.
Chinese are looking, they'retaking care of you.
So tell us, what we have forour gadget in gear today.
Gwen Way (31:17):
So it's funny that Mike actually mentioned Robocop
earlier.
I'm a big fan of late 80s,early 90s just fun movies and
one of my favorites for thistime of year is actually the
Lawnmower man.
Nathan Mumm (31:30):
Okay.
Gwen Way (31:31):
It's a great flick where a scientist who is
focusing on neuro studies digsin, gets a helmet that can
actually stimulate thebrainwaves he originally tested
on apes and then decides to testit on a human.
Big problems occur, because ofcourse they do, but as a high
(31:55):
schooler, when I first saw it,my first thought was oh, I want
one of those.
Well, guess what, ladies andgentlemen, you can get one now.
Nathan Mumm (32:04):
Okay, so what is this device?
Let's talk about this device onKickstarter.
So this is a advanced braincomputer interface, is that
correct?
Gwen Way (32:14):
That is correct.
The name of the product isBroadmind.
Their kind of catchphrase isunlock the power of your mind,
which is pretty exciting andsounds amazing.
Exactly like in the movie.
But exactly like in the movie.
I think there are some problemswith this device.
Mike Gorday (32:32):
What is it supposed to do?
That's what I'm unclear about.
Gwen Way (32:37):
It is supposed to take input directly from your
brain and allow you to playgames, utilize VR, without
actually having to move aroundand endanger pets, children,
spouses, friends, familyfurniture, whatever children,
(32:59):
spouses, uh, friends, familyfurniture, whatever.
So theoretically, you could putthis on.
You can sit on your couch, putyour visor on and be able to do
all of the fun stuff in the gameshoot, climb, slash, whatever
you're doing, uh withoutactually physically moving this
is like ready player one so so,yeah, basically so.
Nathan Mumm (33:16):
So this is a device that, uh, we'll see if we can
get od to actually uh, uh, putup the kickstarter page so you
can actually take a look at thiskickstarter page.
Um, and essentially it's adevice that goes on the outside
of your mind, is that correct?
Gwen Way (33:33):
exactly it goes on your head.
You just put it on over yourhair just like normal, like you
would wear a hat or somethingelse, and you're able to
suddenly control your computerwith your brain.
Nathan Mumm (33:47):
Okay, All right Now .
How many backers does this have?
How much money has it raised?
Where are we at so far on this?
Gwen Way (33:55):
So it actually has 183 backers, which surprises me
somewhat, and has raised$141,000 of a $30,000 goal, so
it is successful as far as allof that is concerned.
Nathan Mumm (34:10):
Okay, and what is the company that is backing this
?
Gwen Way (34:18):
there's where we get interesting.
So the company is callingitself broad minds the same as
the product.
Okay, uh, this is the firstthing that they have offered.
Uh, and I'm gonna go in alittle bit in detail to show you
what you can look for to seethings that are maybe too good
to be true.
(34:38):
On kickstarter, okay, I thinkthis one definitely falls in are
you saying that this isn't whatthey're saying?
Nathan Mumm (34:44):
it is well we do have it on the screen.
So if you're looking at ourlive feed right now, we do have
the the item coming on up in ouruh gadgets and gear area.
You can take a look at thekickstarter.
So tell us more about this,gwen, as we kind of scroll
through the pictures andinformation online.
Gwen Way (34:59):
So there are a couple of things that you want to look
out for.
Number one if you take a lookat this product it's showing up
on your screen right now.
Does that really look like ahigh quality product or does it
look like something somebody 3Dprinted?
Nathan Mumm (35:13):
It looks like a 3D printed device, doesn't it?
Gwen Way (35:17):
something somebody 3d printed.
It looks like a 3d printeddevice, doesn't it?
Now, if you're in the marketfor a 3d printed device, that's
fine, but in this kind of casethat's probably not going to
actually give you thefunctionality that they are
probably they are promising okay, so that says it's top quality,
though it says on the things ittop quality materials that made
it?
Mike Gorday (35:35):
maybe, and you see a guy putting it on his head.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure thatneuroscience hasn't advanced
this far yet, so I think this isprobably bogus.
Gwen Way (35:45):
And I doubt very much that neuroscience is going to
advance on Kickstarter.
Nathan Mumm (35:50):
Yeah, I don't think that.
So Elon Musk is trying todevelop a device.
Mike Gorday (35:53):
Yeah, we already know.
Nathan Mumm (35:54):
He's spending millions of dollars paying
somebody to have as a testsubject, but this device right
here is on Kickstarter and itlooks like it does exactly some
of the same stuff.
So continue on, Gwen.
I'm just so excited about thisbecause this guy for a couple
hundred bucks, I think I coulddo the same thing.
Gwen Way (36:09):
Exactly.
It's $300 for the base modelright now.
You've got five more availableat that price.
That's actually one of theother things, though you only
had three different versions.
You've got the base model thatis only available in a limited
amount, and then you've got thefull model, which is available
(36:33):
unlimited.
Nathan Mumm (36:34):
So is it the same device, though, or is it a
different, like a Rev-A and aRev-B?
So is it the same device,though, or is it a different,
like a Rev-A and a Rev-B, or isit the same device and you have
to pay to unlock it?
Gwen Way (36:43):
It's actually the same device.
You do have to pay to unlocksome features.
The main difference with thelarger price is that you've got
access to what they are callingBroadmind SDK.
Nathan Mumm (37:00):
Oh, the software development kit.
Gwen Way (37:02):
Exactly.
So you've got access to thesoftware development kit if you
pay the whole cost.
Otherwise it's pretty much theexact same thing.
So that's $600 for adevelopment kit, basically.
Mike Gorday (37:15):
Okay.
So the whole idea is this isthat you put this on your head
while wearing a virtual realitysetup and you sit and play video
games like you do with aregular video game Exactly your
mind does all the controllingand you don't have to look
around and do whatever.
That's right.
Nathan Mumm (37:31):
So if I'm playing the Sea of Thieves, I can just
think I to shoot you and line upand I'm going to snipe you
across the sea.
Mike Gorday (37:39):
Okay, that makes total sense to me, does it
Exactly?
Gwen Way (37:43):
So you can sit there on the couch, you know, shooting
people in Sea of Thieves, andlike, eat potato chips or
whatever you want to do you know?
Mike Gorday (37:50):
there's this movie called what is it?
Click where has like a yeah auniversal remote.
Gwen Way (37:56):
Yeah, that's kind of the same one, yeah yeah, yeah.
Anytime you're seeing somethingon kickstarter that looks like,
uh, something out of an adamsandler movie, it's probably not
going to be the best way to goall right.
Mike Gorday (38:09):
So if we're doing a trick or treat, targeting is
targeting your occipital andparietal lobes of your brain
right.
Gwen Way (38:15):
Yes, exactly this is so dumb.
Mike Gorday (38:19):
There are 183 dumb people that are giving these
people money.
Nathan Mumm (38:24):
Yeah, I hope none of them are independent people
that just decided to actuallyback this.
So would you consider this,then, a trick or a treat?
Gwen Way (38:32):
Oh, this is very much a trick and I am so glad that
we had the opportunity todemonstrate to our listeners
what to look for when you arechecking things out on
Kickstarter.
Mike Gorday (38:46):
I think it's been a real treat that we talked about
this thing.
Nathan Mumm (38:49):
Yes, it does say.
We always talk about some greatthings on Kickstarter.
Kickstarter is a platform whereyou help inventors create stuff
, but it also is a greatplatform for scammers out there
to come up with ideas and haveyou invest the money.
And be careful, because ifyou're not putting it on your
credit card and you're justputting it on a regular bank
card once you make this deposit,the deposit is final, so that
(39:11):
money goes away.
Kickstarter does not refund you, so we're like getting a
DeLorean online.
Mike Gorday (39:19):
Hang on Be nice there now Alright, gwen.
Nathan Mumm (39:21):
Well, thank you for coming on the show.
It's always a pleasure talkingabout you, about new gadgets.
Hopefully I'm sure we have somecoming on up for the holidays.
We'll have to make sure we sendyou a camera so that we can get
you and see you next time onthe show.
Mike Gorday (39:35):
I think you should get one just to see what it
looks.
We'll see what it actually does.
Buy this device.
Nathan Mumm (39:40):
Yeah, it probably won't even massage your hair.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
I don't have any hair , so it won't work on me.
Ody (39:46):
That's probably one of the cheapest things that you'd lose
your money on too.
Wow, wow.
Nathan Mumm (39:53):
All right.
Nick Espinosa (39:53):
Well, that ends our segment.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Gadgets in Gear.
Oh, smack down for Bodie.
Nathan Mumm (39:57):
Up.
Next we have this Week inTechnology, so now would be a
great time to enjoy a littlewhiskey on the side, as we're
going to be doing so during thebreak.
Bye, gwen, you're listening toTech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm
.
See you in a few minutes.
Hey, mike.
Yeah, what's up?
Mike Gorday (40:17):
Hey, if you really like us, you can use your
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Or is it Patreon?
I think it's Patreon, okay,patreon, if you really like us,
you can like us at patreoncom Ibutcher the English language.
Nathan Mumm (40:27):
You know, you butcher the English language all
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And now let's look back at this week in technology.
Nathan Mumm (41:21):
All right, welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan
Bum.
That was a nice hat on youthere, mike, during the break
there you go.
That's my hook hat.
Okay, now let's talk about whathappened on October 28, 1998.
The US President, bill Clinton,signs into law the Digital
Millennium Copyright Act, theDMCA.
The law is intended tocriminalize production and
(41:44):
dissemination of technologydesigned to cultivate digital
copyright protection, known asthe Digital Rights Management or
DRM management or DRM.
The DMCA is affected by theworldwide cryptography research
community since it's an argumentcan be made that crypto
(42:04):
services violate the DMCA.
The arrest of Russianprogrammers over the last couple
of years was a highlypublicized example of the laws
used to prevent or penalizedevelopment of anti-DRM measures
.
That was this Week inTechnology.
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S-T-O-R-I-Coffeecom, the segment we've been waiting
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Ody (43:15):
Mumble All right, gentlemen , yes, Okay, do you know what
we're celebrating today?
Mike Gorday (43:27):
It's National.
Nathan Mumm (43:27):
Cat Day I'll give you a hint.
Okay, are you ready?
Sure, oh, that's a modemAmerican Online.
Okay, okay, american Onlinemodem.
Mike Gorday (43:37):
National.
Nathan Mumm (43:37):
Dial-Up.
Ody (43:38):
Day.
No, but it has something to dowith the dial-up.
Mike Gorday (43:42):
National Phone Day no.
Modem Day no.
Ody (43:45):
Why did we dial up before?
Nathan Mumm (43:47):
To get to the internet Because we were idiots.
Okay, so the creation of theinternet.
Ody (43:50):
It is National.
Gwen Way (43:51):
Internet Day, oh National Internet.
Nathan Mumm (43:54):
Day.
Oh, I thought Al Gore createdthe internet he did Shut up
Anyway, out of his lockbox.
Mike Gorday (43:58):
It is National Catch Day too, because Alexa
told me this morning oh, did itreally?
Nathan Mumm (44:05):
She can't tell me anything useful.
So so you're like, all right, Ihate it, tell us about national
.
Ody (44:10):
So looking back at AOL's quaint, you've Got Mail.
Nathan Mumm (44:13):
Yep.
Ody (44:14):
Ads circa 1997.
Few could imagine what theinternet would mean all these
years later.
We love the new thing calledemail, but could we imagine
booking an entire overseasvacation on our phones at 3am or
something called TikTok, or theweb's worldwide implications?
Mike Gorday (44:33):
No, no Tick flex.
Ody (44:34):
Anyway, that is today.
So another product that comesto us from the 1990s is
Mitcher's team that has beenpioneering.
That has been doing pioneeringwork to reestablish the high
quality American rye whiskeycategory.
For maturation the ryedistillation is entered into the
(44:55):
barrel at 103 proof rather thana more industry standard higher
proof of 125.
Barrel entry at a lower proofcosts maturers more money in
terms of barrels and warehousingbut they believe it yields a
richer, smoother, morefull-bodied whiskey after proper
maturation.
Most barrels in the releasereleases range from 107 to 112
(45:22):
proof, straight from the barrelTo savor it.
It is a unique experience foranyone who enjoys rye whiskey.
Nathan Mumm (45:29):
Alright.
So, mike, you're not normally arye guy, though.
Mike Gorday (45:32):
No, I'm not a rye person.
Nathan Mumm (45:34):
What do you?
Mike Gorday (45:34):
think of this.
This is really good.
As my tastes for whiskey haveprogressed, my tolerance for rye
has risen.
Okay If it's a high rye I don'tdo those very well, so I can
pretty much guarantee this is alow rye one.
A low rye rye because it's notburning the crap out of my mouth
(45:59):
.
Nathan Mumm (45:59):
So it's not necessarily the proof that
you're worried about.
It's the rye content in there.
Mike Gorday (46:04):
It's the rye burn.
I don't like the rye burn ofboth ryes, all right, so tell us
more, mike.
Ody (46:09):
So Mark absolutely loves this rye.
He has nothing but praise forit.
He wondered what Nathan andMike would think, so he asked
the internet.
That is what it said, andparentheses and Odie, do not gag
while reading this.
And parentheses Mitchers oh mygosh, mitchers.
Barrel strength ride 2024.
Is likely to impress bothNathan and Mike From tech time
(46:31):
radio, given their appreciationfor unique and robust whiskeys
and the host's appreciation fordistinctive tasting experiences.
The 2024 release should appealto these whiskey aficionados.
Oh yeah, looking for a strongcharacter and a smooth finish
nice.
Mike Gorday (46:48):
Did he get that?
Did he get that from radiokrakow?
Or from the whale shark inchina?
Or maybe the room bug?
Nathan Mumm (46:55):
or chachi bt.
I mean, he could have got itfrom there too.
Mike Gorday (46:57):
He got it from his vacuum cleaner.
His vacuum cleaner yelled athim while we were doing this.
Nathan Mumm (47:02):
Does he say if this is his top shelf or?
Mike Gorday (47:04):
mid shelf he does not.
Ody (47:06):
This is a top shelf.
Nathan Mumm (47:08):
How much is it per bottle?
Again?
Ody (47:10):
Give me a moment.
It is $110 for 750 milliliters.
Nathan Mumm (47:15):
Yeah, I think this is on his top shelf.
Ody (47:16):
But I think it goes for $3.50 on the secondary market.
Nathan Mumm (47:20):
Oh, so this is one of the little marks.
I found it on the first marketand I'm selling it on the
secondary market as I'm down inLas Vegas right now, probably.
Mike Gorday (47:28):
Is that where he is ?
Is he?
Nathan Mumm (47:29):
in.
Ody (47:30):
Vegas.
He's out trick-or-treating at aconference.
Nathan Mumm (47:33):
That's right.
Mike Gorday (47:34):
He's having a good time there Well well, if it's in
Vegas, yeah, there's a lotthat's going to stay there.
Ody (47:39):
That's right, right, and we're never going to know about
it.
That's right.
Nathan Mumm (47:42):
Thanks for the mumble as always whiskey and
technology are great pairing,just like Reese's peanut butter
cups and Halloween.
Okay, that see that.
That was a good one Okay good,there you go.
Mike Gorday (47:56):
You should have had some screwball today too.
Nathan Mumm (47:59):
Oh well, you know what, since we're in our new
Studio 400, right outside thestudio door there's a whole full
bar set up, so afterwards wecan just drink and drink and
drink.
Mike Gorday (48:07):
We're going to have some screwball.
I saw an ad on TV about that.
Nathan Mumm (48:11):
Did you really?
Okay, there you go.
Let's move on now to ourtechnology fail of the week.
We are out of time.
Congratulations, you're afailure.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
Oh.
Speaker 7 (48:24):
I failed.
Did I yes, did I yes, did I.
Nathan Mumm (48:33):
Yes, alright.
Well, this week comes to us ourfailure from the BBC weather
app.
The BBC weather app forecastedhurricanes across the world.
Fought with the BBC weather app.
The BBC weather app forecastedhurricanes across the world.
A fault with the BBC weatherwebsite and app has led to
incorrect forecasts andimpossible high wind speeds in
the UK and across the globe.
Mike Gorday (48:49):
We're talking like 3,000 miles an hour.
Nathan Mumm (48:52):
Graphics warned of hurricanes and showed estimated
wind speeds of 13,508 miles perhour in London and 5,508 miles
per hour in London and 5,294miles per hour in Rome, far in
excess of any genuine hurricanesuch as Milton, which reached
not even one-tenth of thosemiles per hour which struck
Florida Now.
(49:13):
It also reported temperaturesof 404 degrees Celsius.
100 degrees Celsius, I believe,is when you're melting.
So it was 404 degrees Celsius.
100 degrees Celsius, I believe,is when you're melting.
Ody (49:22):
So it was 404 degrees Celsius.
So these countries don't existanymore.
Mike Gorday (49:24):
No, New York City doesn't exist.
Nathan Mumm (49:26):
The.
Mike Gorday (49:27):
Earth has finally had enough with all this stuff,
and they're just wipingeverybody off the Earth.
Nathan Mumm (49:31):
Sydney was at 378 degrees Celsius.
So the BBC Weather said thatthey're aware of the data issue
with a third-party supplier andare in the process of fixing the
problem.
So if you're jumping off acliff right now because you're
getting the BBC's weather appand it's telling you that you're
going to be melted intosmithereens, please let that go
(49:51):
and continue on your way.
All right?
Well, now we got a coupleminutes.
What's that?
We're saying something.
You want to go to Nathan Nugget?
Let's go to Nathan Nugget.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
This is your Nugget of the Week.
Nathan Mumm (50:05):
All right, we didn't know if we're going to
get to the Nathan Nugget or not,but guess what?
I just came back from Japan, sowe're going to do a little
debrief of my.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Japan.
Nathan Mumm (50:14):
Yes, we know we.
Now I got a nice Mario guy herefrom the Nintendo store in
Tokyo.
You like that, Mr Mario?
We got it going around there.
We're really excited about allthe stuff that we have.
Let me tell you about Japan.
Japan was an interesting trip.
Now do you think of Japan as atechnology country by default?
Mike Gorday (50:34):
No.
Nathan Mumm (50:35):
It was not, and I was thinking for it as more of a
technology country, and so Iwent there and most of the
computers laying around therewere still selling i7s, and we
have i9 computers and all newcomputers.
So I was a little disappointedon some of the technology.
But I will tell you this theyhave stores that are five, six,
seven, eight stories tall, thathave over $40 million of
(50:56):
inventory, that are like Toys RUs and computers, and I was
there with two other individualsand we were doing a bunch of
research for Tech Time Radio anda bunch of other items at the
same time, and I could literallystay in a store for about
probably six to seven hours thathad kind of like Ikea, where
they had food, so I could go andhave food, I could sit down and
(51:17):
play with my devices that Ipurchased.
I could have electronics uh,amps, everything that you would
ever think of Washer machines,luggage Uh, as a matter of fact,
I brought some whiskey wineback from the same store that I
could buy toys from.
And all these they're calledcamera stores.
All of them have camera stores,but what it is is a big, big
(51:38):
box store.
Mike Gorday (51:39):
Big old Walmart.
Nathan Mumm (51:42):
Yeah, it's a Walmart times three with tons of
storage and all they do is theygot stuff available there for
electronics.
So if you are kind of a geekand you want to go geek out,
tokyo is probably one of thegreatest places to go buy little
knick-knack stuff and memorycards and all this other type of
stuff.
I'll have to show you what Igot offline, because I can't
really show you some of thetechnology stuff that I bought
(52:04):
online.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
But, there you go.
Nathan Mumm (52:07):
So there's some cool stuff there too.
All right, Well, I think now weneed to go into our pick of the
day whiskey tasting.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings
.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop all right, what do we have
od?
Ody (52:26):
today we are drinking mitcher's distillery from the
chatham imports.
This distillation isundisclosed distillery in
kentucky classified as astraight rye aged at least four
years, with 110 proof and 55.4abv all right.
Nathan Mumm (52:43):
Well, thumbs up or thumbs down, mike.
What do you think?
Mike Gorday (52:46):
oh, this is definitely getting a thumbs up.
For me, this is really good.
It's got a very nice smoothtaste and fruity over to
undertones.
It's really nice, got a reallygood finish.
I am literally talking about arye whiskey.
Nathan Mumm (53:05):
I can't believe that.
You know what's reallyinteresting is, although Mark
likes it a lot, look how much wehave left over.
Mike Gorday (53:11):
We're going to finish the bottle.
I think maybe we can have thata little bit after Mark.
You're not getting this bottle.
There you go, we're going todrink it.
Ody (53:19):
The ghouls are going to take it.
Nathan Mumm (53:20):
That's right, I'm going to give it a thumbs up
also.
I thought it was really good.
I thought this absolutely wouldbe a top shelf whiskey.
I like the bite.
I do like rye, as long as Idon't get that initial bite and
it stays.
I like the bite that comes andthen it kind of palettes out so
(53:41):
you're not having to worry aboutit too much.
Any other aspect for that?
Well, I think we are just aboutout of time here.
Can I ask you a question aboutJapan?
Real quick?
Ody (53:49):
Yes, did you really notice any of the wardrobe choices over
there, or is that something youdon't pay attention?
Speaker 2 (53:57):
to.
Mike Gorday (53:57):
Do you know him?
Fashionista is not one of hisworks, right, but they have a
very distinct wardrobe Like thepagodas.
Nathan Mumm (54:03):
Is that what you're trying to say?
Mike Gorday (54:05):
No, she's asking if you see any golf shorts over
there.
Nathan Mumm (54:08):
So there is a lot of schoolgirl outfits.
I don't know what else to callthem, but they're like the high
skirt outfits.
Everybody seems to wear thosewith the high nylon type of
stuff.
Wow, mike.
Okay, is that what you wereasking for, odie, if I saw any
of the high skirt outfits?
Ody (54:27):
I mean, I guess.
Nathan Mumm (54:28):
Okay, but you got to remember.
Mike Gorday (54:29):
Were you really interested in schoolgirl.
What were you interested in?
Ody (54:32):
Well, I just know that they have a very high sense of
fashion over there, but they'vealso got like they're very into
anime over there, so they are.
Nathan Mumm (54:40):
I was sitting on a bus, A 70-year-old guy is
reading anime.
I couldn't believe that.
I was like what the heck?
It's like a cartoon he'sreading there and he had a great
time.
So, yes, well, I will tell youthat if you haven't been to
Japan, you should at least gothere once in your lifetime.
It's probably worth taking careof.
Ody (54:58):
I don't know if I would go to all the locations Don't go
with me.
Nathan Mumm (55:03):
I was a little bit of a stick in the mud so I was
kind of just hanging back, whichis very American of you.
Was it very American of me.
Mike Gorday (55:09):
I will say that the bus system in Google works
really good.
That was very Nathan.
Nathan Mumm (55:13):
You want technology .
Google will tell you which busto take at which time.
Unbelievable.
Not a single mistake there.
Well, we want to thankeverybody for listening to our
show today.
Thank you for our new Studio400.
Remember I'm your host, nathanMumm, with Mike Rodea signing
off with a binary wink.
See you next week.
Bye-bye.
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Buckle up as we dive in thelatest technology news and
stories.
Here's what we got coming upfor the show today.
Today is our spooky Halloweenepisode and, like clockwork, we
have Nick Espinosa on the showto talk about the scariest
things in technology in ourhaunted Halloween episode.
First, is Netflix Momentsreally what they say it is for
(02:03):
To share your favorite sceneswith friends.
We're also going to be talkingabout this Chinese aquarium that
stunned to discover that theirwhale was Zonkers.
All right.
Then we dive into an issueplaguing the BBC weather website
, which caused quite a stir, andguess what?
Robot vacuum speaking to youfrom the grave.
Is that possible?
Yes, it is.
Now we're going to discuss howthese things happen and more.
(02:25):
We also have Gwen Way on for agadget.
Is this going to be a trick ora treat gadget?
Finally, we explore thedevelopment of a possible Skynet
system, just like theTerminator movies.
In addition, of course, we haveour standard features,
including our technology fail,the week of possible, nathan
Nugget and, of course, our pick,pick of the day whiskey tasting
to see if our selected whiskeypick of the day gets zero, one
(02:47):
or two thumbs up at the end ofthe show.
But now it's time for thelatest headlines in the world of
technology here are our toptechnology stories of the week
all right, welcome to our toptechnology stories of the week.
Number one Netflix is having amoment, but its new feature,
Moments, is not one of them.
(03:09):
Let's go to Corinne Westlandfor more on this story.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
This week, netflix launched a new feature called
Moments that allows subscribersto share their favorite moments
from the platform's massivelibrary of content.
The only problem is it doesn'tactually do that.
Here's how Moments, currentlyavailable for the iOS app and
coming soon for Android, ismeant to work.
Subscribers can tap the screenat any time while watching
(03:36):
Netflix content on their phoneand find a Moments tab in the
bottom left corner.
They then have the option tohit Save and capture whichever
scene they're watching, eitherin a library of saved moments
accessible in the my Netflixsection of the app, or in a
message or social media postwhich they can send out by
tapping the familiar paperairplane-shaped icon beneath
(03:57):
each moment.
The problem, though, is it isnot that simple, nathan.
Can you explain your experiencemore Back to you in the studio?
Mike Gorday (04:06):
It doesn't even sound simple when it spells it
out.
Nathan Mumm (04:10):
That was the easy version, so let me just see so
Netflix now.
I hope that this actually takeson and they have to have some
development work.
I do want to say I love yourhat Before I get into the story.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It's our Halloween episode.
Nathan Mumm (04:23):
I got Mario here and you know what od behind the
board's got luigi, so yeah,she's even got a stash going all
right now.
Let me just tell you.
So, netflix their hope is toideally have a system where if
I'm watching a netflix showlet's say stranger things or
something on netflix, and all ofa sudden I wanted to share it
with you, I could click onhere's a clip, share 30 to 60
seconds of that clip.
(04:43):
You could then watch it on likefacebook or whatever platform
you have, and then you couldlaugh at it.
We could all comment about it.
Right, well, that's not how ithappens to work.
Flicks talk yeah, I meanbecause you see memes all the
time right, little 30 secondmemes at the office and, and the
idea would be a cool idea.
But here's the problem that youhave.
First of all, you can't reallyshare 30 to second clips online.
(05:07):
When you share it, it juststarts at that place that you
share.
Both of you have to have, ofcourse, a Netflix subscription,
which is what they're trying tohave happen to everybody.
To get a Netflix subscriptionso that everybody has their
service, you both have to be onthe phone with the iOS app right
now.
So I can't have.
If you have an Android phone,which you do, and I have my
Apple phone and I send it to youand you clicked it on Facebook,
(05:29):
you'd be hosed.
So you have to have the sameApple and then what happens is
when we actually click on it toshare it, all it does is it
shares a link.
Now YouTube have you ever shareda video on YouTube?
You can start it at like 30seconds.
In 20 seconds, in Sure, why not?
This is a feature thatYouTube's had for maybe 10 years
or something like that.
I mean, it's not a new feature,but you could go in halfway in
(05:50):
a video.
You click share, you share it,starting at 32 seconds, and then
the person watches it.
This is all that Netflix has,but it's so complicated that it
just isn't opening up a webbrowser.
You have to actually have theapp, you have to be logged in
and you have to have theirspecial on your phone app only
to work.
So let me just tell you there'stoo many ifs and thens to have
(06:12):
the system work.
It is absolutely not easy touse, but a great idea.
So this is what I want to sayto Netflix Unfortunate, your
moments link that you have rightnow is not easy to use.
No one's gonna adopt it, butkeep working on your technology.
It's not like you're just oneof the third largest media
companies in the world, but ifyou were um, then maybe you call
(06:33):
minutes.
They should be minutes insteadof instead of moments.
Keep on working on this, makeit so it works.
Please go to youtube right nowsee how they have it done and
figure out a way to do it sothat both people have a
subscription and can have itwork and I think you have
yourself a system.
But until then, moments is nota shining moment.
Mike Gorday (06:53):
I think you should just not do it at all, just stop
trying.
Nathan Mumm (06:57):
Stop trying.
Yeah, but did you do it here?
Netflix does have a Squid Gamecoming out at the end of this
year.
We have a Squid Game coming outat the end of this year.
Big deal, squid Game 2.
Mike Gorday (07:04):
Okay well, I did not even watch the first one.
Nathan Mumm (07:06):
You didn't watch the first one.
Mike Gorday (07:07):
I don't have a Netflix.
Nathan Mumm (07:09):
Well, if I showed you a link, you'd just be tough.
Mike Gorday (07:11):
You'd just be like Well, yeah, I guess it sucks to
be me Well no that doesn't no,or it sucks to be Netflix.
(07:32):
I don't know, you go, so netflixcan keep it up.
But, uh, swing and a miss thistime.
All right, you got story numbertwo here, mike.
Yeah, you remember that showmax headroom.
I do remember max headroom, max, yeah.
So this is the first thing thatpopped into my head when I read
this.
But uh, in poland, yeah, uh, aradio station has replaced this
journalist with ai presentersand that's not drawing a lot of
happy, happy news from thepublic.
A Polish radio station hastriggered a lot of controversy
after dismissing its journalistsand relaunching this week with
(07:55):
AI-generated presenters.
Weeks after letting thejournalists go OFF, radio Krakow
relaunched this week with whatit said was the first experiment
in Poland in which journalistsare virtual characters created
by AI.
I'm not a cat, oh, I rememberthat.
Yeah, the station in thesouthern city of Krakow said its
three avatars are designed toreach younger listeners.
(08:18):
The change got nationwideattention after a journalist and
film critic who until recentlyhosted a show on the station,
published an open letter Tuesdayprotesting the replacement of
employees of artificialintelligence.
It is a dangerous precedentthat hit us all and to a world
in which experienced employeesassociate with the media sector
(08:40):
for years and people employed increative industries will be
replaced by machines.
So here it comes.
There you go.
Skynet is on the move sectorfor years, and people employed
in creative industries will bereplaced by machines.
So here it comes sky net.
Sky net is on the move.
Uh demski worked at off offradio crack out from february
2022 carrying out interviewerinterviews with ukrainians
fleeing the war until august,when he was among about a dozen
(09:01):
journalists who were let go.
He said the move was especiallyshocking because the
broadcaster is ataxpayer-supported public
station oh, like a PBS station.
Nathan Mumm (09:09):
Yeah, so a PBS station decided to replace all
their staff, so America wasn'tthe first.
Mike Gorday (09:17):
Poland actually decided they were going to take
the first swipe at replacinghuman beings with live avatars.
Nathan Mumm (09:23):
So this isn't only going to go so far, right?
I mean, we like having apersonal connection with people,
right?
Mike Gorday (09:28):
I don't want to be turning on king five news, our
local news affiliate, and see abunch of ai people on there well
, that's why I thought about maxheadroom, because I remember, I
remember that back in the day,yeah, and max headroom kind of
is this idea of AI people, yeah,right, yeah, I mean it was cool
(09:49):
back then.
It's not that cool now.
Nathan Mumm (09:51):
Not when it's actually happening, all right.
Well, we got story number threehere.
Just when he thought it wassafe to go back into the water
park, angry fans ripped anaquarium after its much-hyped
giant shark was not what itseemed to be.
Just when he thought it wassafe to go back, all of a sudden
we have a deepfake.
That was announced at the ShowMe World in Shenzhen, china,
(10:13):
which opened on October 1stfollowing a five-year renovation
.
So this was the Show Me SeaWorld in China was shut down for
five years.
They did a bunch of renovation.
Now, during the week-long dryrun of the 645,000 square feet
of Ocean Zoo that attracted over100,000 visitors paying $40 to
(10:34):
enter, guess what they had?
The exhibitors were talkingabout a big whale shark exhibit
that was over 60 feet in length.
However, many felt cheatedafter they realized the
so-called Regal Sea Beats wasactually just a mechanical
doppelganger.
There you go, there you go.
So all of a sudden, it was justsent to nothing.
Now, photos taken from the tankglass show the fishy robot,
(10:58):
which sports obvious gaps in itstorso where its segments have
been connected, evoking a propthat looks like a cheesy sci-fi
channel shark movie.
Aquarian reps claim that theycreated the robotic whale shark
to adhere to laws prohibitingthe trade of genuine artifacts.
This is definitely a Halloweentrick on most of those that
attended, yeah that's funny.
Mike Gorday (11:17):
Well it's not funny , but it's funny.
Nathan Mumm (11:19):
So you're going to go to a zoo in China and you're
going to see dogs dressed up aspandas, and you're now going to
go to an aquarium and you'regoing to see a robot dressed up
like a shark.
Come on now.
Clearly people aren't going togo and pay money to see a
robotic shark.
Probably that robotic sharkprobably costs more money than
it would have to have two orthree of the real life sharks in
(11:40):
there running and doing stuff.
Mike Gorday (11:42):
I have to applaud them for going out of their way
to do something to you know.
Save the wildlife, because Idon't know if you know what a
whale shark is?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It's a rare, it's the biggest fish in the world.
Mike Gorday (11:55):
Okay, yeah, they should have said that's what
they were doing.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah.
Mike Gorday (12:01):
Or maybe they should have talked to.
Universal Studios and you know,gotten.
Nathan Mumm (12:08):
Was it Josh or Bruno?
Yeah, Bruno from the.
Was it Bruno?
Is that the Nemo one?
Mike Gorday (12:13):
No, no, no, the shark from Jaws.
Nathan Mumm (12:15):
It has a name.
I can't remember what it is.
I don't remember Jaws, but Ithink Bruno's from.
Ody (12:18):
Bruce.
Nathan Mumm (12:19):
Bruce Bruce that's right.
Mike Gorday (12:21):
I don't know what you're talking about.
Nathan Mumm (12:23):
Well, that is our top technology stories of the
week.
When we return, Nick Espinosafrom Security Finanics will join
us to discuss the scariesttechnology items this year for
our spooky Halloween episode.
You will definitely befrightened.
Stay tuned to find out thisinformation and more.
You're listening to Tech Timewith Nathan Mumm.
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Ody (13:56):
Now, today, mark Gregoire, our whiskey connoisseur, is out
trick-or-treating, so we have toget our whiskey from our
producer, odie hello hello, okay, supply us with whiskey so
today we are drinking mitchell'sus one single barrel strength
right, 2024 uh, from directlyfrom their website.
(14:20):
It is a butterscotch andcinnamon with a hint of cherries
on the nose, warming rich,toasty, vanilla and caramel up
front, with a dry oaky spice onthe finish.
The stats, uh.
The company is mitra'sdistillery from chatham imports.
The distillation is undiscloseddistillery in kentucky.
(14:41):
It's a straight ryeclassification at least four
years.
It's been aged with a 55.4%proof or ABV and 110 proof.
The mash bill is undisclosed,rumored low rye rye and it goes
for about $110 for 750milliliters.
Mike Gorday (15:03):
All right.
Well, it's got to be a low-ryeride, because I like it.
I like it too.
Nathan Mumm (15:07):
I thought it was really good.
Actually, this is notrick-or-treat, this is all
treat for me.
I tell you that this is good.
Mike Gorday (15:14):
You're really going to go.
We're going with the Halloweentheme.
Nathan Mumm (15:18):
Everything's trick-or-treat or spooky or this
.
Mike Gorday (15:23):
Yeah, that's right.
Nathan Mumm (15:23):
I'm going to let that bone go.
You should put on the other hat.
Are you going to put on yourother hat that you had going on?
Mike Gorday (15:27):
We should do that during a commercial break.
I think I'll just leave thatright there.
Maybe, I'll find somebody andhook them like dead by daylight.
Nathan Mumm (15:37):
Put them up on a chain.
Alright, okay, Real quick.
Ody (15:42):
Mark does say please do not forget to like and subscribe.
Nathan Mumm (15:45):
In Well with our first.
Ody (15:45):
Real quick.
Mark does say please do notforget to like and subscribe.
In addition, please comment andlet us know if you have a
whiskey you would like us toreview.
Also, heaven can wait.
Drink responsibly.
Mike Gorday (15:51):
Tell him to get back to his, convert, his,
whatever he's doing Histrick-or-treating.
Nathan Mumm (15:56):
His trick-or-treating event that
he's at.
All right, he's at a conventionlearning about technology,
learning about technology, soI'm sure he's having a great
time.
All right, what was our firstwhiskey?
Well maybe he's not having agreat time.
Mike Gorday (16:07):
Conventions are where you usually drink.
Nathan Mumm (16:10):
That's right.
That's our first whiskeytasting completed.
Let's move on to our featuresegment.
Today, our technology expert,nick Espinosa, is joining the
show.
He's an expert in cybersecurityand network infrastructure and
he's consulted with clientsranging from small business to
the Fortune 100 level.
In 1998, at the age of 19, nickfounded Windy City Networks,
which was later acquired in 2015.
He then created SecurityFanatics, where he is the chief
(16:32):
security fanatic.
We welcome Nick to the Comcastvideo stream to start our next
segment.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Welcome to the segment we call Ask the Experts
With our tech time radio expertespinoza all right, welcome to
the show.
Nathan Mumm (16:49):
You know this is our tradition.
You have been on every singletech time radio's halloween
edition and you know what it wascoming on up.
I just came back from japan andwe're putting things together
and I apologize for sending outa late invite.
Thank you for making sure youcan attend.
This is our tradition that weenjoy immensely.
Let me tell you that.
Nick Espinosa (17:08):
Yeah, I know Happy to be here.
Always enjoy this one.
This is always a fun one.
Nathan Mumm (17:12):
This is because we're going to talk about the
scariest stories.
Mike Gorday (17:16):
It was that this is the Drink More episode.
This is the Drink More episode.
Nathan Mumm (17:20):
What's interesting is that you'd think that these
stories were throughout thewhole year, but most of these
stories are just recent and arestill some of the scariest
stories of the year.
Nick Espinosa (17:28):
Yeah yeah, and I went back looking.
I'm like, okay, let's see whatI can find for the year after.
Since the last Halloween andsure enough, they're all from
like the last two weeks I waslike oh, my God.
I don't know what that saysabout next week, but here we go.
Nathan Mumm (17:43):
There you go.
That's right With the politicalstuff we're going to be talking
about that.
Well, let's talk with a subjectthat's really sucky.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
So robot vacuums you like that little pun there?
There you go.
Nathan Mumm (17:55):
Robot vacuums have been hacked and the attackers
are yelling through the speakers.
Nothing like an eerie soundcoming out of a vacuum in a
closet late at night.
Explain what is going on.
Nick Espinosa (18:07):
Yeah, yeah.
So this is an interesting oneand, quite frankly, a little bit
terrifying if you've got kids,because robot vacuums across
multiple US cities were actuallyhacked in basically the space
of a few days and the attackerwas physically controlling them
and, to your point, it wasyelling obscenities through the
onboard speakers.
Now what we're talking about isa robot vacuum, not iRobot that
(18:29):
is now owned by Amazon, but aChinese-made one called EcoVax
that apparently we're buying inthe United States.
And here's a fun example asreported by the ABC Now.
Daniel Swenson, who apparentlyis a lawyer in Minnesota, was
watching TV we're going toassume the Vikings when his
robot started to malfunctionQuote it sounded like a broken
(18:50):
up radio signal or something.
You could hear snippets, maybea voice, so he thought basically
something was screwed up.
He checked the app, saw thatsomebody was accessing his live
camera feed and remote controlfeature for his robot, so he
reset his password, rebooted therobot and, of course, it
started to move almostimmediately again, and then a
voice started screaming racialslurs through the robot speakers
(19:12):
at his 13-year-old son.
So good times on that.
This is obviously another caseof just you know a cheap Chinese
product that is a knockoff ofyou know something that just
doesn't have good vulnerabilitycontrol because people are
getting into these things leftand right.
Nathan Mumm (19:26):
So do you have an actual model number of which
unit that was?
Nick Espinosa (19:30):
Yeah, it was like the Deets 9X or something along
those lines.
I don't have it in my notes,but yeah, it was like the Deets
9, something like that.
Nathan Mumm (19:40):
So it wasn't a Roomba or a standard, Not a
Roomba Ecovacs.
Nick Espinosa (19:45):
Okay, so it wasn't a room, bar or a standard
uh, not a room, but ecovax.
Okay, if you have an eco,basically if you have an ecovax
robot vacuum, you want to checkthis out.
I don't care what your model is.
Mike Gorday (19:50):
Odds are the vulnerabilities everywhere I'm a
little split on whether that Imean.
Nathan Mumm (19:55):
That would be kind of a fun prank to do right, you
want to be on the other side,where you start and start
talking to people yeah, butdriving, driving somebody's
vacuum around and yelling atthem.
Nick Espinosa (20:06):
Yeah, maybe not obscenities, but yeah yeah, but
this happened to google justbefore the pandemic where people
had insecure nest, you know,like the nest cameras and
thermostats, and attackers arebreaking into google accounts
and taking it over and there'slike literally a recorded video
of this guy talking like athree-year-old little girl in
her crib about how he's SantaClaus, you know, and all these
(20:28):
kinds of things, which is aterrifying prospect.
If you're a parent, right, youdon't want some jerk talking to
your, you know, your toddler,you know, telling them they're
Santa Claus or Jesus or whateverit was, and so it really just
underscores that we need goodcontrols in our life when it
comes to our cloud-basedtechnologies.
Mike Gorday (20:44):
Imagine you know your Roomba, coming up to you
and going Hi, I'm Chucky.
Nick Espinosa (20:50):
Well, I mean, if I was controlling it, I'd say
kill all humans, kill all humans.
But there you go.
Nathan Mumm (20:59):
I mean, you know what?
That's what happens sometimeswhen you buy cheap stuff online.
So if you don't know whereyou're buying it from and you
buy yourself a cheap vacuum.
Yeah, you kind of.
Yeah, you got to be carefulwhere you're buying your stuff
from I mean even cables onamazon if you buy cheap, cheap
cables for 3d stuff and and uhvideo cameras or especially
(21:19):
audio stuff, if you get itreally cheap, I mean there's a
chance that they can have someknockoff stuff out there A that
normally doesn't work good, buttwo that can be doing recording
and screen caps and a lot ofdifferent stuff.
So you got to know where you'rebuying your stuff from.
All right moving on.
We have an election that'scoming up.
I don't know if you've heardabout that, but it seems to be
getting some news about thatacross the nation and all of a
(21:40):
sudden we have some conspiracytheories.
That are popping up, of course,with any election that you have
, but it does seem that theTrump and Harris campaigns have
been targeted.
Explain what is happening here,Nick.
Nick Espinosa (21:51):
Yeah, yeah, and interestingly enough, my daily
video and podcast today was onFacebook, helping essentially
the extremists with theircoordination for after the
election.
So this is obviously very closeto home, right, and we are
almost at the election.
But here's what's happeningBoth the Trump and Harris
campaigns have been targeteddirectly for their cell phones
(22:13):
and, according to the AssociatedPress, chinese hackers engaged
in a broader espionage operationagainst Donald Trump, obviously
running as a Republican, hisrunning mate JD Vance, and then
people associated with theDemocratic campaign of Kamala
Harris.
And it's not 100% clear atleast nobody's saying what data
might have been accessed ortaken, because this is an
(22:33):
ongoing investigation and theFBI statement did not confirm
the identities of theindividuals in both camps and
both campaigns.
By virtue of that, but theysaid they were investigating a
quote unauthorized access tocommercial telecommunications
infrastructure by actorsaffiliated with the People's
Republic of China.
And I think it's important toremember for the record that
(22:54):
when former President Trump wasin office as President Trump, he
refused to trade in hispersonal mobile phone for a
secure one Because, remember,like the NSA, cia, they secure
phones.
This was a whole stink withPresident Obama back in the day
and apparently Chineseintelligence was able to break
in to then President Trump'spersonal phone that he was using
(23:14):
to tweet all the time, as weknow he did, and so this isn't
the first time.
He has he, he has, he's, he'sbeen targeted Right, he's been
targeted multiple times, andthere's also no doubt that that
Vice President Harris and she'sthe current vice president has
also had her share of attempts,but as far as we know, they've
been unsuccessful, and, as faras we also know, she traded in
her personal phone for thesecure phone that our government
(23:36):
leaders typically have.
So take that for what it'sworth and good luck to us all
next week what's that?
Mike Gorday (23:41):
well, they're, they're really.
Maybe we should hack theirwhale shark, their whale shark
and talk to you and talk to theaquarium goers there and yell
stuff at them.
Yes there, you go there you go,so okay.
Nathan Mumm (23:55):
So, Mr Excited over here, Mr Mike, he's going to be
excited about this.
The next one well, candidateswill soon be commanders-in-chief
of our military, and what'sreally glad about that is at
least we don't have anyautonomous weapons that are out
there like Terminator 2, or dowe?
Nick Espinosa (24:17):
Oh, we do, and I should say they're starting to
come and we're actually not thefirst to deploy these.
But here's what's happening.
And here's the thing, becausewhen it comes to autonomous
weaponry, silicon Valley hasusually erred on the side of
caution and, to be fair, thestance of the US government
historically has been prettyambiguous on the use of
autonomous weapons.
These are weapons for therecord that can essentially make
(24:38):
decisions for themselves andthen execute Like oh, you are
the enemy coming over the cliff,I'm going to shoot at you
Hopefully you're not a friendly,that kind of thing.
But this mentality of ambiguityis starting to actually change.
The US, for the record, doesnot ban any company here in the
United States from actuallymaking fully autonomous lethal
(24:58):
weapons, and it does notexplicitly ban them from selling
things to foreign countries aswell.
And so let's talk about to yourpoint, nathan, what I'm now
calling Terminator 1.0, because,why not, I'll meet you in the
bunker in five years as we'reshooting at these things Now.
Last month, palantir'sco-founder and annual investor
his name is John Lonsdalebasically showed a willingness
(25:21):
on stage to consider fullyautonomous weapons, and Palantir
would be one of those companiesthat would be pioneering this.
So at an event, basically atthe think tank Hudson Institute,
lonsdale, presented rather ahypothetical where China had
embraced AI weapons.
But the US has to quote pressthe button every time it fires.
And so, by virtue of that, heencourages US policymakers to
(25:44):
embrace a more flexible approach, if you will, to basically AI
in weapons.
Now his other co-founder, vanDrouel Palmer, luc Lucky, also
had an openness to these kindsof weapons.
And Lucky went one step further.
That, I think, should kind ofterrify all of us, because
during a talk earlier this monthat Pepperdine University in
(26:05):
California, he basically talkedabout US adversaries that, quote
, use phrases that sound reallygood in soundbite.
Well, you can't agree with arobot that a robot should never
be able to decide who lives anddies.
And my point to them is where'sthe moral high ground in the
landmine that can't tell thedifference between a school bus
(26:26):
full of kids and a Russian tank.
And so, by virtue of that, herewe are, and this isn't the
first time we've seen this theRussians are moving towards
autonomous weaponry in their warin ukraine, the chinese are,
the south korean have deployedum uh autonomous weapons along
the demilitarized zone againstnorth korea, and obviously those
are a lot more rudimentary thanthe more advanced ai we have
(26:47):
now.
So this is coming, terminatorsare on their way and the
ukraines are working on aidrones.
So a whole new world ed Ed 209.
Mike Gorday (26:56):
Remember, you know where that's from.
What's that?
Nathan Mumm (26:58):
Ed 209.
What's that from RoboCop?
You're a big RoboCop fan,aren't you?
Uh, yeah, yeah.
Mike Gorday (27:07):
It's one of the things that I watched.
It was.
It was way ahead of his timewhen it came out.
Nathan Mumm (27:12):
Yeah yeah, time when it came out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right allright.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Well, guess what we?
Nathan Mumm (27:18):
got to end on a positive note here.
So finally, the holiday seasonis upon us.
So at least we have the peaceand confidence that if we're
searching websites on the webfor holiday shopping, that we
have nothing to be concernedabout.
Nick Espinosa (27:29):
Right nick, oh my god you know why do I always
have to be the debbie downer onthis show?
Speaker 7 (27:34):
can I just?
Nick Espinosa (27:34):
can I just ask that question?
Yeah, let's end on a positivenote and talk about phishing.
Okay, because cyber criminalsare now offering tools to help
other cyber criminals basicallyhelp their own phishing pages
avoid detection by our securitycontrols and our security tools.
(27:55):
Basically, these services aredesigned to prevent our security
crawlers, meaning those threatdetection companies that are
looking for these phishing sitesso they can add them to
databases.
So we can't go there.
They basically now have toolsthat are designed to prevent
these crawlers from identifyingphishing pages and therefore
putting them on block lists.
So, by filtering outcybersecurity bots and
essentially disguising phishingpages from these types of
(28:17):
scanners, these toolsessentially extend the lifespan
of malicious sites.
And to your point, we're comingup to the holiday season, so
click here for that toy thatnobody could get right, and
you're going to have desperateparents looking for whatever the
tickle-me-elmo is this yeardoing these kinds of things, and
oftentimes their threatdetection systems they're
relying on to block the phishingsite may simply not see it.
(28:39):
That's the thing, and here'sthe issue.
For us, good guys, these toolsare easy to use.
They allow any unskilledattacker to essentially increase
their effectiveness of theirattacks for relatively low price
.
So happy shopping everybody,because that's essentially
what's happening here and it'sabsolutely nuts all right, well,
thanks, you feel much better no, to end on, not so much.
(29:04):
I got, I need to go.
Mike Gorday (29:06):
I need to go and get a you know, a chinese vacuum
cleaner, just so I can havesomebody to talk to me while I'm
happy to yell at you.
Nathan Mumm (29:17):
All right, Nick.
Well, it's always great to talkabout.
These are, of course, not onlysome of the subjects that you
guys work on for your security.
Tell everybody else how theycan get in touch with you after
the show off show.
How would somebody get in touchwith you?
Nick Espinosa (29:32):
Yeah, absolutely, you can like share.
Follow me on Facebook andTwitter at Nick AES or slash
nick espinoza.
Follow me on youtube as well,and I'm always putting out
content, always happy to hangout uh, thank you so much for
coming on the show.
Thanks nick, I can't wait tillnext year's halloween edition
either.
Nathan Mumm (29:46):
All right, there goes, nick.
Thank you.
Oh boy, it's not.
Isn't that positive to thinkabout.
Mike Gorday (29:51):
All those great things are yeah, I just in the
last two weeks.
I'm just filled with positivityright now, are you?
Yeah, I came in complainingabout technology.
Nathan Mumm (30:00):
I'm going to leave swearing it all out now, but you
do have whiskey to drink duringthe show, so that will calm you
down, right.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
No, not, really, Not really.
Mike Gorday (30:09):
It'll just make it easier for me to throw my
computer across the room when Iget home, or whatever I'm going
to do.
Nathan Mumm (30:14):
Well, just be careful it doesn't hit that
vacuum, because it could betalking to you.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
All right, well, that ends our Ask the.
Nathan Mumm (30:19):
Expert with Nick Espinosa.
Now up, though, we have ourGadgets in Gear, gal Gwen Way.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
What's new in our Gadgets in Gear.
Nathan Mumm (30:30):
All right, we're excited to have both Nick and
Gwen on the show today, so Ican't wait to have that taken
care of.
So let me just tell you, gwenis coming to our Halloween
special.
She has a gadget and gear andwe want to have all the
listeners kind of listen to seewhat we have going on here, to
see if this is something that isa great idea or not great idea.
(30:51):
All right, are we able to getGwen up on the screen there?
Gwen, is your camera on?
Gwen Way (30:56):
My camera is on and it seems to be giving us
problems.
I consider this an absolutetrick.
Thanks technology.
Nathan Mumm (31:04):
That's okay, we can hear from you here.
That's not a problem, we haveyou there the.
Chinese are looking, they'retaking care of you.
So tell us, what we have forour gadget in gear today.
Gwen Way (31:17):
So it's funny that Mike actually mentioned Robocop
earlier.
I'm a big fan of late 80s,early 90s just fun movies and
one of my favorites for thistime of year is actually the
Lawnmower man.
Nathan Mumm (31:30):
Okay.
Gwen Way (31:31):
It's a great flick where a scientist who is
focusing on neuro studies digsin, gets a helmet that can
actually stimulate thebrainwaves he originally tested
on apes and then decides to testit on a human.
Big problems occur, because ofcourse they do, but as a high
(31:55):
schooler, when I first saw it,my first thought was oh, I want
one of those.
Well, guess what, ladies andgentlemen, you can get one now.
Nathan Mumm (32:04):
Okay, so what is this device?
Let's talk about this device onKickstarter.
So this is a advanced braincomputer interface, is that
correct?
Gwen Way (32:14):
That is correct.
The name of the product isBroadmind.
Their kind of catchphrase isunlock the power of your mind,
which is pretty exciting andsounds amazing.
Exactly like in the movie.
But exactly like in the movie.
I think there are some problemswith this device.
Mike Gorday (32:32):
What is it supposed to do?
That's what I'm unclear about.
Gwen Way (32:37):
It is supposed to take input directly from your
brain and allow you to playgames, utilize VR, without
actually having to move aroundand endanger pets, children,
spouses, friends, familyfurniture, whatever children,
(32:59):
spouses, uh, friends, familyfurniture, whatever.
So theoretically, you could putthis on.
You can sit on your couch, putyour visor on and be able to do
all of the fun stuff in the gameshoot, climb, slash, whatever
you're doing, uh withoutactually physically moving this
is like ready player one so so,yeah, basically so.
Nathan Mumm (33:16):
So this is a device that, uh, we'll see if we can
get od to actually uh, uh, putup the kickstarter page so you
can actually take a look at thiskickstarter page.
Um, and essentially it's adevice that goes on the outside
of your mind, is that correct?
Gwen Way (33:33):
exactly it goes on your head.
You just put it on over yourhair just like normal, like you
would wear a hat or somethingelse, and you're able to
suddenly control your computerwith your brain.
Nathan Mumm (33:47):
Okay, All right Now .
How many backers does this have?
How much money has it raised?
Where are we at so far on this?
Gwen Way (33:55):
So it actually has 183 backers, which surprises me
somewhat, and has raised$141,000 of a $30,000 goal, so
it is successful as far as allof that is concerned.
Nathan Mumm (34:10):
Okay, and what is the company that is backing this
?
Gwen Way (34:18):
there's where we get interesting.
So the company is callingitself broad minds the same as
the product.
Okay, uh, this is the firstthing that they have offered.
Uh, and I'm gonna go in alittle bit in detail to show you
what you can look for to seethings that are maybe too good
to be true.
(34:38):
On kickstarter, okay, I thinkthis one definitely falls in are
you saying that this isn't whatthey're saying?
Nathan Mumm (34:44):
it is well we do have it on the screen.
So if you're looking at ourlive feed right now, we do have
the the item coming on up in ouruh gadgets and gear area.
You can take a look at thekickstarter.
So tell us more about this,gwen, as we kind of scroll
through the pictures andinformation online.
Gwen Way (34:59):
So there are a couple of things that you want to look
out for.
Number one if you take a lookat this product it's showing up
on your screen right now.
Does that really look like ahigh quality product or does it
look like something somebody 3Dprinted?
Nathan Mumm (35:13):
It looks like a 3D printed device, doesn't it?
Gwen Way (35:17):
something somebody 3d printed.
It looks like a 3d printeddevice, doesn't it?
Now, if you're in the marketfor a 3d printed device, that's
fine, but in this kind of casethat's probably not going to
actually give you thefunctionality that they are
probably they are promising okay, so that says it's top quality,
though it says on the things ittop quality materials that made
it?
Mike Gorday (35:35):
maybe, and you see a guy putting it on his head.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure thatneuroscience hasn't advanced
this far yet, so I think this isprobably bogus.
Gwen Way (35:45):
And I doubt very much that neuroscience is going to
advance on Kickstarter.
Nathan Mumm (35:50):
Yeah, I don't think that.
So Elon Musk is trying todevelop a device.
Mike Gorday (35:53):
Yeah, we already know.
Nathan Mumm (35:54):
He's spending millions of dollars paying
somebody to have as a testsubject, but this device right
here is on Kickstarter and itlooks like it does exactly some
of the same stuff.
So continue on, Gwen.
I'm just so excited about thisbecause this guy for a couple
hundred bucks, I think I coulddo the same thing.
Gwen Way (36:09):
Exactly.
It's $300 for the base modelright now.
You've got five more availableat that price.
That's actually one of theother things, though you only
had three different versions.
You've got the base model thatis only available in a limited
amount, and then you've got thefull model, which is available
(36:33):
unlimited.
Nathan Mumm (36:34):
So is it the same device, though, or is it a
different, like a Rev-A and aRev-B?
So is it the same device,though, or is it a different,
like a Rev-A and a Rev-B, or isit the same device and you have
to pay to unlock it?
Gwen Way (36:43):
It's actually the same device.
You do have to pay to unlocksome features.
The main difference with thelarger price is that you've got
access to what they are callingBroadmind SDK.
Nathan Mumm (37:00):
Oh, the software development kit.
Gwen Way (37:02):
Exactly.
So you've got access to thesoftware development kit if you
pay the whole cost.
Otherwise it's pretty much theexact same thing.
So that's $600 for adevelopment kit, basically.
Mike Gorday (37:15):
Okay.
So the whole idea is this isthat you put this on your head
while wearing a virtual realitysetup and you sit and play video
games like you do with aregular video game Exactly your
mind does all the controllingand you don't have to look
around and do whatever.
That's right.
Nathan Mumm (37:31):
So if I'm playing the Sea of Thieves, I can just
think I to shoot you and line upand I'm going to snipe you
across the sea.
Mike Gorday (37:39):
Okay, that makes total sense to me, does it
Exactly?
Gwen Way (37:43):
So you can sit there on the couch, you know, shooting
people in Sea of Thieves, andlike, eat potato chips or
whatever you want to do you know?
Mike Gorday (37:50):
there's this movie called what is it?
Click where has like a yeah auniversal remote.
Gwen Way (37:56):
Yeah, that's kind of the same one, yeah yeah, yeah.
Anytime you're seeing somethingon kickstarter that looks like,
uh, something out of an adamsandler movie, it's probably not
going to be the best way to goall right.
Mike Gorday (38:09):
So if we're doing a trick or treat, targeting is
targeting your occipital andparietal lobes of your brain
right.
Gwen Way (38:15):
Yes, exactly this is so dumb.
Mike Gorday (38:19):
There are 183 dumb people that are giving these
people money.
Nathan Mumm (38:24):
Yeah, I hope none of them are independent people
that just decided to actuallyback this.
So would you consider this,then, a trick or a treat?
Gwen Way (38:32):
Oh, this is very much a trick and I am so glad that
we had the opportunity todemonstrate to our listeners
what to look for when you arechecking things out on
Kickstarter.
Mike Gorday (38:46):
I think it's been a real treat that we talked about
this thing.
Nathan Mumm (38:49):
Yes, it does say.
We always talk about some greatthings on Kickstarter.
Kickstarter is a platform whereyou help inventors create stuff
, but it also is a greatplatform for scammers out there
to come up with ideas and haveyou invest the money.
And be careful, because ifyou're not putting it on your
credit card and you're justputting it on a regular bank
card once you make this deposit,the deposit is final, so that
(39:11):
money goes away.
Kickstarter does not refund you, so we're like getting a
DeLorean online.
Mike Gorday (39:19):
Hang on Be nice there now Alright, gwen.
Nathan Mumm (39:21):
Well, thank you for coming on the show.
It's always a pleasure talkingabout you, about new gadgets.
Hopefully I'm sure we have somecoming on up for the holidays.
We'll have to make sure we sendyou a camera so that we can get
you and see you next time onthe show.
Mike Gorday (39:35):
I think you should get one just to see what it
looks.
We'll see what it actually does.
Buy this device.
Nathan Mumm (39:40):
Yeah, it probably won't even massage your hair.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
I don't have any hair , so it won't work on me.
Ody (39:46):
That's probably one of the cheapest things that you'd lose
your money on too.
Wow, wow.
Nathan Mumm (39:53):
All right.
Nick Espinosa (39:53):
Well, that ends our segment.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Gadgets in Gear.
Oh, smack down for Bodie.
Nathan Mumm (39:57):
Up.
Next we have this Week inTechnology, so now would be a
great time to enjoy a littlewhiskey on the side, as we're
going to be doing so during thebreak.
Bye, gwen, you're listening toTech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm
.
See you in a few minutes.
Hey, mike.
Yeah, what's up?
Mike Gorday (40:17):
Hey, if you really like us, you can use your
support on patreoncom.
Or is it Patreon?
I think it's Patreon, okay,patreon, if you really like us,
you can like us at patreoncom Ibutcher the English language.
Nathan Mumm (40:27):
You know, you butcher the English language all
the time.
It's patreoncom.
Mike Gorday (40:32):
If you really like our show, you can subscribe to
patreoncom and help us out.
Nathan Mumm (40:38):
And you can visit us on that Facebook platform.
You know the one thatZuckerberg owns, the one that we
always bag on.
Yeah, we're on Facebook too.
Yeah, like us on Facebook.
Do you know what our Facebookpage is?
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You know what?
There's a trend here.
Mike Gorday (40:52):
It seems to be that there's a trend and that's Tech
Time Radio, or you can evenInstagram with us and that's at
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Or you can find us on TikTokand it's Tech Time Radio.
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Mike Gorday (41:04):
Like and subscribe to our social media Like us.
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Today, we need you to like us.
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That's it.
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That's it.
It's that simple.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
And now let's look back at this week in technology.
Nathan Mumm (41:21):
All right, welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan
Bum.
That was a nice hat on youthere, mike, during the break
there you go.
That's my hook hat.
Okay, now let's talk about whathappened on October 28, 1998.
The US President, bill Clinton,signs into law the Digital
Millennium Copyright Act, theDMCA.
The law is intended tocriminalize production and
(41:44):
dissemination of technologydesigned to cultivate digital
copyright protection, known asthe Digital Rights Management or
DRM management or DRM.
The DMCA is affected by theworldwide cryptography research
community since it's an argumentcan be made that crypto
(42:04):
services violate the DMCA.
The arrest of Russianprogrammers over the last couple
of years was a highlypublicized example of the laws
used to prevent or penalizedevelopment of anti-DRM measures
.
That was this Week inTechnology.
If you ever wanted to watchsome tech time, with over 200
weekly broadcasts spanning fourplus years of video, podcasts
and blog information, you canvisit us at techtimeradiocom to
watch our older shows.
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We're going to take acommercial break.
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Speaker 1 (43:06):
S-T-O-R-I-Coffeecom, the segment we've been waiting
all week for Mark's Whiskey.
Ody (43:15):
Mumble All right, gentlemen , yes, Okay, do you know what
we're celebrating today?
Mike Gorday (43:27):
It's National.
Nathan Mumm (43:27):
Cat Day I'll give you a hint.
Okay, are you ready?
Sure, oh, that's a modemAmerican Online.
Okay, okay, american Onlinemodem.
Mike Gorday (43:37):
National.
Nathan Mumm (43:37):
Dial-Up.
Ody (43:38):
Day.
No, but it has something to dowith the dial-up.
Mike Gorday (43:42):
National Phone Day no.
Modem Day no.
Ody (43:45):
Why did we dial up before?
Nathan Mumm (43:47):
To get to the internet Because we were idiots.
Okay, so the creation of theinternet.
Ody (43:50):
It is National.
Gwen Way (43:51):
Internet Day, oh National Internet.
Nathan Mumm (43:54):
Day.
Oh, I thought Al Gore createdthe internet he did Shut up
Anyway, out of his lockbox.
Mike Gorday (43:58):
It is National Catch Day too, because Alexa
told me this morning oh, did itreally?
Nathan Mumm (44:05):
She can't tell me anything useful.
So so you're like, all right, Ihate it, tell us about national
.
Ody (44:10):
So looking back at AOL's quaint, you've Got Mail.
Nathan Mumm (44:13):
Yep.
Ody (44:14):
Ads circa 1997.
Few could imagine what theinternet would mean all these
years later.
We love the new thing calledemail, but could we imagine
booking an entire overseasvacation on our phones at 3am or
something called TikTok, or theweb's worldwide implications?
Mike Gorday (44:33):
No, no Tick flex.
Ody (44:34):
Anyway, that is today.
So another product that comesto us from the 1990s is
Mitcher's team that has beenpioneering.
That has been doing pioneeringwork to reestablish the high
quality American rye whiskeycategory.
For maturation the ryedistillation is entered into the
(44:55):
barrel at 103 proof rather thana more industry standard higher
proof of 125.
Barrel entry at a lower proofcosts maturers more money in
terms of barrels and warehousingbut they believe it yields a
richer, smoother, morefull-bodied whiskey after proper
maturation.
Most barrels in the releasereleases range from 107 to 112
(45:22):
proof, straight from the barrelTo savor it.
It is a unique experience foranyone who enjoys rye whiskey.
Nathan Mumm (45:29):
Alright.
So, mike, you're not normally arye guy, though.
Mike Gorday (45:32):
No, I'm not a rye person.
Nathan Mumm (45:34):
What do you?
Mike Gorday (45:34):
think of this.
This is really good.
As my tastes for whiskey haveprogressed, my tolerance for rye
has risen.
Okay If it's a high rye I don'tdo those very well, so I can
pretty much guarantee this is alow rye one.
A low rye rye because it's notburning the crap out of my mouth
(45:59):
.
Nathan Mumm (45:59):
So it's not necessarily the proof that
you're worried about.
It's the rye content in there.
Mike Gorday (46:04):
It's the rye burn.
I don't like the rye burn ofboth ryes, all right, so tell us
more, mike.
Ody (46:09):
So Mark absolutely loves this rye.
He has nothing but praise forit.
He wondered what Nathan andMike would think, so he asked
the internet.
That is what it said, andparentheses and Odie, do not gag
while reading this.
And parentheses Mitchers oh mygosh, mitchers.
Barrel strength ride 2024.
Is likely to impress bothNathan and Mike From tech time
(46:31):
radio, given their appreciationfor unique and robust whiskeys
and the host's appreciation fordistinctive tasting experiences.
The 2024 release should appealto these whiskey aficionados.
Oh yeah, looking for a strongcharacter and a smooth finish
nice.
Mike Gorday (46:48):
Did he get that?
Did he get that from radiokrakow?
Or from the whale shark inchina?
Or maybe the room bug?
Nathan Mumm (46:55):
or chachi bt.
I mean, he could have got itfrom there too.
Mike Gorday (46:57):
He got it from his vacuum cleaner.
His vacuum cleaner yelled athim while we were doing this.
Nathan Mumm (47:02):
Does he say if this is his top shelf or?
Mike Gorday (47:04):
mid shelf he does not.
Ody (47:06):
This is a top shelf.
Nathan Mumm (47:08):
How much is it per bottle?
Again?
Ody (47:10):
Give me a moment.
It is $110 for 750 milliliters.
Nathan Mumm (47:15):
Yeah, I think this is on his top shelf.
Ody (47:16):
But I think it goes for $3.50 on the secondary market.
Nathan Mumm (47:20):
Oh, so this is one of the little marks.
I found it on the first marketand I'm selling it on the
secondary market as I'm down inLas Vegas right now, probably.
Mike Gorday (47:28):
Is that where he is ?
Is he?
Nathan Mumm (47:29):
in.
Ody (47:30):
Vegas.
He's out trick-or-treating at aconference.
Nathan Mumm (47:33):
That's right.
Mike Gorday (47:34):
He's having a good time there Well well, if it's in
Vegas, yeah, there's a lotthat's going to stay there.
Ody (47:39):
That's right, right, and we're never going to know about
it.
That's right.
Nathan Mumm (47:42):
Thanks for the mumble as always whiskey and
technology are great pairing,just like Reese's peanut butter
cups and Halloween.
Okay, that see that.
That was a good one Okay good,there you go.
Mike Gorday (47:56):
You should have had some screwball today too.
Nathan Mumm (47:59):
Oh well, you know what, since we're in our new
Studio 400, right outside thestudio door there's a whole full
bar set up, so afterwards wecan just drink and drink and
drink.
Mike Gorday (48:07):
We're going to have some screwball.
I saw an ad on TV about that.
Nathan Mumm (48:11):
Did you really?
Okay, there you go.
Let's move on now to ourtechnology fail of the week.
We are out of time.
Congratulations, you're afailure.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
Oh.
Speaker 7 (48:24):
I failed.
Did I yes, did I yes, did I.
Nathan Mumm (48:33):
Yes, alright.
Well, this week comes to us ourfailure from the BBC weather
app.
The BBC weather app forecastedhurricanes across the world.
Fought with the BBC weather app.
The BBC weather app forecastedhurricanes across the world.
A fault with the BBC weatherwebsite and app has led to
incorrect forecasts andimpossible high wind speeds in
the UK and across the globe.
Mike Gorday (48:49):
We're talking like 3,000 miles an hour.
Nathan Mumm (48:52):
Graphics warned of hurricanes and showed estimated
wind speeds of 13,508 miles perhour in London and 5,508 miles
per hour in London and 5,294miles per hour in Rome, far in
excess of any genuine hurricanesuch as Milton, which reached
not even one-tenth of thosemiles per hour which struck
Florida Now.
(49:13):
It also reported temperaturesof 404 degrees Celsius.
100 degrees Celsius, I believe,is when you're melting.
So it was 404 degrees Celsius.
100 degrees Celsius, I believe,is when you're melting.
Ody (49:22):
So it was 404 degrees Celsius.
So these countries don't existanymore.
Mike Gorday (49:24):
No, New York City doesn't exist.
Nathan Mumm (49:26):
The.
Mike Gorday (49:27):
Earth has finally had enough with all this stuff,
and they're just wipingeverybody off the Earth.
Nathan Mumm (49:31):
Sydney was at 378 degrees Celsius.
So the BBC Weather said thatthey're aware of the data issue
with a third-party supplier andare in the process of fixing the
problem.
So if you're jumping off acliff right now because you're
getting the BBC's weather appand it's telling you that you're
going to be melted intosmithereens, please let that go
(49:51):
and continue on your way.
All right?
Well, now we got a coupleminutes.
What's that?
We're saying something.
You want to go to Nathan Nugget?
Let's go to Nathan Nugget.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
This is your Nugget of the Week.
Nathan Mumm (50:05):
All right, we didn't know if we're going to
get to the Nathan Nugget or not,but guess what?
I just came back from Japan, sowe're going to do a little
debrief of my.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Japan.
Nathan Mumm (50:14):
Yes, we know we.
Now I got a nice Mario guy herefrom the Nintendo store in
Tokyo.
You like that, Mr Mario?
We got it going around there.
We're really excited about allthe stuff that we have.
Let me tell you about Japan.
Japan was an interesting trip.
Now do you think of Japan as atechnology country by default?
Mike Gorday (50:34):
No.
Nathan Mumm (50:35):
It was not, and I was thinking for it as more of a
technology country, and so Iwent there and most of the
computers laying around therewere still selling i7s, and we
have i9 computers and all newcomputers.
So I was a little disappointedon some of the technology.
But I will tell you this theyhave stores that are five, six,
seven, eight stories tall, thathave over $40 million of
(50:56):
inventory, that are like Toys RUs and computers, and I was
there with two other individualsand we were doing a bunch of
research for Tech Time Radio anda bunch of other items at the
same time, and I could literallystay in a store for about
probably six to seven hours thathad kind of like Ikea, where
they had food, so I could go andhave food, I could sit down and
(51:17):
play with my devices that Ipurchased.
I could have electronics uh,amps, everything that you would
ever think of Washer machines,luggage Uh, as a matter of fact,
I brought some whiskey wineback from the same store that I
could buy toys from.
And all these they're calledcamera stores.
All of them have camera stores,but what it is is a big, big
(51:38):
box store.
Mike Gorday (51:39):
Big old Walmart.
Nathan Mumm (51:42):
Yeah, it's a Walmart times three with tons of
storage and all they do is theygot stuff available there for
electronics.
So if you are kind of a geekand you want to go geek out,
tokyo is probably one of thegreatest places to go buy little
knick-knack stuff and memorycards and all this other type of
stuff.
I'll have to show you what Igot offline, because I can't
really show you some of thetechnology stuff that I bought
(52:04):
online.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
But, there you go.
Nathan Mumm (52:07):
So there's some cool stuff there too.
All right, Well, I think now weneed to go into our pick of the
day whiskey tasting.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings
.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop all right, what do we have
od?
Ody (52:26):
today we are drinking mitcher's distillery from the
chatham imports.
This distillation isundisclosed distillery in
kentucky classified as astraight rye aged at least four
years, with 110 proof and 55.4abv all right.
Nathan Mumm (52:43):
Well, thumbs up or thumbs down, mike.
What do you think?
Mike Gorday (52:46):
oh, this is definitely getting a thumbs up.
For me, this is really good.
It's got a very nice smoothtaste and fruity over to
undertones.
It's really nice, got a reallygood finish.
I am literally talking about arye whiskey.
Nathan Mumm (53:05):
I can't believe that.
You know what's reallyinteresting is, although Mark
likes it a lot, look how much wehave left over.
Mike Gorday (53:11):
We're going to finish the bottle.
I think maybe we can have thata little bit after Mark.
You're not getting this bottle.
There you go, we're going todrink it.
Ody (53:19):
The ghouls are going to take it.
Nathan Mumm (53:20):
That's right, I'm going to give it a thumbs up
also.
I thought it was really good.
I thought this absolutely wouldbe a top shelf whiskey.
I like the bite.
I do like rye, as long as Idon't get that initial bite and
it stays.
I like the bite that comes andthen it kind of palettes out so
(53:41):
you're not having to worry aboutit too much.
Any other aspect for that?
Well, I think we are just aboutout of time here.
Can I ask you a question aboutJapan?
Real quick?
Ody (53:49):
Yes, did you really notice any of the wardrobe choices over
there, or is that something youdon't pay attention?
Speaker 2 (53:57):
to.
Mike Gorday (53:57):
Do you know him?
Fashionista is not one of hisworks, right, but they have a
very distinct wardrobe Like thepagodas.
Nathan Mumm (54:03):
Is that what you're trying to say?
Mike Gorday (54:05):
No, she's asking if you see any golf shorts over
there.
Nathan Mumm (54:08):
So there is a lot of schoolgirl outfits.
I don't know what else to callthem, but they're like the high
skirt outfits.
Everybody seems to wear thosewith the high nylon type of
stuff.
Wow, mike.
Okay, is that what you wereasking for, odie, if I saw any
of the high skirt outfits?
Ody (54:27):
I mean, I guess.
Nathan Mumm (54:28):
Okay, but you got to remember.
Mike Gorday (54:29):
Were you really interested in schoolgirl.
What were you interested in?
Ody (54:32):
Well, I just know that they have a very high sense of
fashion over there, but they'vealso got like they're very into
anime over there, so they are.
Nathan Mumm (54:40):
I was sitting on a bus, A 70-year-old guy is
reading anime.
I couldn't believe that.
I was like what the heck?
It's like a cartoon he'sreading there and he had a great
time.
So, yes, well, I will tell youthat if you haven't been to
Japan, you should at least gothere once in your lifetime.
It's probably worth taking careof.
Ody (54:58):
I don't know if I would go to all the locations Don't go
with me.
Nathan Mumm (55:03):
I was a little bit of a stick in the mud so I was
kind of just hanging back, whichis very American of you.
Was it very American of me.
Mike Gorday (55:09):
I will say that the bus system in Google works
really good.
That was very Nathan.
Nathan Mumm (55:13):
You want technology .
Google will tell you which busto take at which time.
Unbelievable.
Not a single mistake there.
Well, we want to thankeverybody for listening to our
show today.
Thank you for our new Studio400.
Remember I'm your host, nathanMumm, with Mike Rodea signing
off with a binary wink.
See you next week.
Bye-bye.
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