The line between technological innovation and dehumanization grows increasingly blurred as companies embrace AI solutions that fundamentally alter human interaction. At the forefront of this shift is Otter AI founder Sam Liang, who has developed an AI-powered avatar that attends 90% of his business meetings, complete with voice synthesis mimicking his speech patterns and the ability to make decisions based on his past behaviors. This represents a troubling evolution where leadership presence becomes optional, raising profound questions about authenticity, trust, and what we sacrifice when algorithms replace human connection.
Meanwhile, scammers continue finding sophisticated ways to exploit our trust through technology. A particularly alarming trend involves fake banking apps designed to mimic legitimate banking platforms, allowing fraudsters to display convincing "payment successful" screens while walking away with sellers' goods. The face-to-face nature of these scams blends old-fashioned confidence tricks with digital deception, leaving victims thousands of dollars out of pocket with little recourse.
The tech landscape continues to be shaped by major corporate competition and legal challenges. Google faces its second antitrust loss in a year as a US judge ruled the company maintains an illegal monopoly in online advertising. Simultaneously, Amazon expands its technological empire across multiple fronts—from entertainment franchises to autonomous vehicles with Zoox robotaxis, to challenging SpaceX's Starlink with its Project Kuiper satellite internet service.
These developments highlight the growing consolidation of power among tech giants while raising important questions about innovation, competition, and how technology serves humanity. As AI systems increasingly stand in for human judgment and interaction, we must critically examine whether these advances truly enhance our lives or merely replace authentic connection with algorithmic approximation.
Join us as we navigate this complex technological landscape with humor, insight, and a commitment to understanding how these developments affect our daily lives and future prospects.
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Today on Tech Time Radio, we'rediving into some intriguing
topics that are making waves inthe tech world.
From a fake banking app that'sscamming unsuspected users, to
CEOs like Otter AI's Sam Langeembracing ai avatars for office
tasks there's plenty to discuss.
We also touch on a judge'sruling regarding google's
advertising practices.
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It said that they are unfair.
Does that surprise you?
Google's advertising practicesare unfair.
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No, let's let's, let's take, let's take them and
break them up, okay, well, we'redoing that, like we're doing to
uh meta, so we're doing it toevery.
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I actually had a bunch that should have been done
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That's what I average.
Mike Gorday (03:41):
Is this like a New Year's resolution that you
forgot to do on New Year's?
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Obtuse Holiday I decided to doa bunch of holiday research, so
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Nathan Mum (04:20):
All right.
Welcome to the new era ofleadership by an algorithm,
where you trust a dedicated AIin the cloud.
In an article that was justpublished a few days back in
Bloomberg, titled, meaningswon't be the same when the boss
sends an AI bot.
There's a whole bunch ofresearch that is being done on
what C-level and high-levelmanagers are doing so they don't
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have to attend meetings.
Let's go to Lisa Walker.
More on the story.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Otterai is training an AI-powered avatar on what the
founder Liang has said inthousands of meetings and
written in documents since heco-founded the company nearly a
decade ago.
Complete with a voicesynthesized to sound like him,
it is built to handle about 90%of the issues that arise in most
business meetings.
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Liang said it has my knowledgeso it knows how.
I think it can infer how Iwould respond to a new question
based on all the pastinteractions.
When the avatar gets stumpedwith, say, a hiring decision, it
can ping me in real time for areply.
The bot can be tailored toadopt the mannerisms of the
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bosses they mirror, like howoften they pause while speaking
or how frequently they interruptothers.
Back to you guys in the studio.
Mike Gorday (05:41):
Are you serious?
Nathan Mum (05:43):
I'm not only serious .
This is a leader in ai and hehas a whole bunch of people that
he has this ai about going tomeetings for now oh yeah, yeah,
I get that.
Mike Gorday (05:52):
I, you know we.
We talk about how everybodywants ai to to replace all these
jobs and these these dudes inpower like, yeah, let's just let
it run our meetings for us so.
Nathan Mum (06:03):
So not not only does it do so, it has voice cloning.
It's got an avatar that theyactually have, an animated
avatar that will smile.
It'll be like a picture of the,the ceo.
Mike Gorday (06:14):
I've seen this.
I've seen this in in the gamingworld so this is exactly it.
Nathan Mum (06:19):
So instead of going to meetings, he sends his ai bot
, the owner uh, now, of course,he's an owner of an ai company,
so he's going to be uh, otter ai, which is a transcript tool
that we use for tech time radioon our meeting notes, and you
get little notes when you're atthe meeting I've used otter ai.
Okay, so it creates a real-timetranscript and then it
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summarizes, as it's capturingwhat's going on, and it will
make decisions.
The bot actually says that's agreat idea or that's not a good
idea, or let me get back to youon that I, I really, I really
want this to backfire.
Mike Gorday (06:51):
Do you really want this?
Yeah, because this is one ofthe laziest, effing things I've
ever heard of.
I, I, this is just crazy.
If you don't have enough timeto meet with your staff and you
want to even, even all the damnmeetings that you have to go
through on on a regular day isridiculous in the first place.
Nathan Mum (07:07):
Okay, if you have to send an ai bot, but yeah,
having an ai bot stand in andthat's that's.
Mike Gorday (07:12):
That's one of the.
You know, if he's going to letit make decisions for him, maybe
he doesn't need to be there atall, you know I I.
Nathan Mum (07:22):
I worked at a company in Seattle that was
owned by the co-founder ofMicrosoft, paul Allen.
He's passed away since thistime, but I worked for him and
there was a lot of times where Ihad a large group that was
reporting to me over a hundredplus people, including
contractors in different areasand so if I couldn't attend a
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meeting, you know what wouldhappen I would still have those
meetings and then I would sendan administrative assistant in
to take meeting notes and thenthey could ask me what was going
on.
But they still had the dialoguebetween the people themselves.
Knowing that I'm not there, andI felt guilty when I did that.
I would feel guilty of notattending the meeting.
Mike Gorday (07:58):
Clearly, this guy doesn't feel guilty about it.
So now you're saying I boughtthis is completely lazy, this is
just what.
What benefits do you get fromthis?
I I don't know why you would dothis at all.
I don't know, but he says it.
Nathan Mum (08:15):
Thanks for him he understood, understands how he
thinks it.
Mike Gorday (08:16):
So if he needs to make a decision, it can
basically run the company forhim, so um, so why does he?
Doesn't need to be there, sofire his.
But yeah, keep the ai, you,don't you?
You immediately get to save alot of money because you don't
pay, so why does he have to bethere?
He doesn't need to be there, sofire his butt.
Yeah, keep the AI youimmediately get to save a lot of
money because you don't pay the.
Nathan Mum (08:30):
AI.
So are we going to go to thatnow?
Or a company's now having an AIengine that's running the whole
?
Mike Gorday (08:34):
company.
If I went into a meeting and myboss was a cloned AI, I would
walk out of that place.
Nathan Mum (08:42):
Yeah, I think in this, none of my meetings that I
have would have that, but Idon't know.
That's the most unpersonal.
Mike Gorday (08:49):
Or what, or I would do everything I could to make
that AI say things that werejust utterly ridiculous.
Nathan Mum (08:56):
Or give you a raise, or do this or do that, just
keep on asking.
Let's see how much we canmanipulate the large language
model to get it to do stuff.
You know, if you have to have abot go to your meetings, then
those meetings shouldn't beprobably scheduled.
And if you can't send anassistant or somebody else to
take notes for you on meetings,then don't have those meetings.
But as soon as we start havingAI bots going to meetings, then
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you know what.
We might as well just move toTerminator 2 day, because it
should just be here right up the.
I mean, that's where we're atif you're gonna have your
company's highest rankingofficer.
Mike Gorday (09:29):
Yeah, they're gonna turn it into ed 209.
Who's gonna walk in and likemow down everybody?
Nathan Mum (09:35):
yep, all right.
Well, I hope story number twocan, can can get us out of the
ai rut.
What do we have here for uh?
Mike Gorday (09:42):
story number two well, hey, you know we're gonna
go.
We're gonna go back to the, toreal, the real genius of
scamming people without the useof ai.
We're gonna talk about realpeople scamming real people.
Oh wow, that sounds excitingthat's good, the real people
yeah people are being scammed bya fake banking app that makes
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you lose faith in humanity.
Oh no, the app mimicslegitimate mobile banking
platforms and allows fraudstersto fake bank transfers in person
, show the seller a successfulpayment message and then walk
away, leaving sellers thousandsof dollars out of pocket.
Okay, dr Tim Day lead indoorstep crime and scams for
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Chartered Trading StandardsInstitute described the apps as
an emerging threat.
Okay, uh, dr tim day lead leadin doorstep crime and scams for
chartered trading standardsinstitute described the apps as
an emerging threat.
He added the in-person natureof the scam is unusual.
So, apparently, what happens?
Nathan Mum (10:34):
as if you're selling something like you sell
facebook marketplace stuff right, yeah, facebook, marketplace,
ebay, different places, but I doin person some stuff all right,
so a couple pinballs for sale.
Mike Gorday (10:47):
Yeah, you you advertise something on online
hey, come buy my.
What did you say?
It was pinball.
I got two.
Come, come buy my pinballmachine, yeah.
So these guys, these guys showup with their mobile phone in
the app in hand.
They take some information fromyou, yeah, and then they show
it to you and the app mimicsyour banking app and it
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basically says that you're,you've been paid okay, and then
he gets to walk away with youritems, items okay, and you never
get money oh, no really yep, onthe screen is on the screen.
It has an advert.
So for for the example here andthere.
Nathan Mum (11:27):
So realistic, yep.
I downloaded this on my androidphone yeah, oh.
Mike Gorday (11:32):
So this, this, this person that is in this article,
yeah, uh, was selling more thana thousand dollars worth of
power tools on the social mediaplatform when he received a
message from a profile namedliam wright.
Okay, when mr wright said hewas interested in viewing him,
mr rudd invented him to come tohis workshop.
After he arrived, he checkedover the tools, offered a bank
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transfer and opened whatappeared to be the banking app.
He handed his phone over to himand he typed in his account
details and it collects that ina text file in the app itself.
Nathan Mum (12:07):
Yep, so when you type that in there, it actually
collects that it collects yourbanking app or banking details.
Mike Gorday (12:16):
He said it looked absolutely genuine.
While Mr Wood was waiting forthe money to appear in his bank
account, he turned his back topick up accessories to hand over
as part of the sale.
The scammer used thisopportunity to leave with all
the tools, but the money neverarrived in his account.
Wow.
Nathan Mum (12:35):
So let me tell you about this app, because I
actually downloaded it onAndroid I kind of feel like you
would have done something, so Idid play with it.
So when you go on in to simulatewhat you're doing, it's got
like Bank of America, wellsFargo, chase Bank.
It's got all the bank names.
And so you ask the user so ifI'm buying with fake money from
you, mr Gorday, and I come inand I say, hey, I want to buy
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that great Star Wars actionfigure that you have, blah, blah
, blah, blah, blah, I'm going tohave to pay you through my bank
account.
What's your bank?
And what's the first thingyou're going to say Well, I
probably use like Chase Bank orsomething.
What's the bank that you use?
Just give me an example BECU.
Okay, becu.
It actually comes on up too.
So, okay, great, becu, can youplease, because I want to send
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you an instant transfer from mybank so you can make sure you
get paid?
It has the BECU login.
It's got the BECU information.
Everything that you arefamiliar with with BECU is in
the app itself.
You type in your accountinformation.
Then I go back and I grab thephone and say, okay, how much do
we need to put in there?
All right, can I even have youdo that?
Can you put in how much is inthere, because my bank account's
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already connected to it and itsays successfully transferred id
number uh, money wire to betaking care of.
Mike Gorday (13:49):
This is classic conning.
Nathan Mum (13:50):
This is just classic conning, right here so when I
loaded this app, I thought maybethis would be the only app.
There was three othercompetitors and some of these
wanted me to charge all the wayup to ten dollars, nine dollars
and 95 cents to download thisapp.
That guarantees it updateswithin 24 hours of any new
screenshots that would come fromthe bank.
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So the other ones are a littlebit dated, but it and it
literally looks.
It is so amazing, it looks solegit that I am sure most people
would fall for this and thisarticle has got like four people
that all fell for it.
Yeah well, the point, the point, the point, and this article
has got like four people thatall fell for it.
Mike Gorday (14:25):
Yeah, well, the point, the point, the point of
this is that there's actuallypeople that are going to these
folks's house, or whateverbusiness they are showing their
face to this person and talkingthem through this.
So this is a, this is this isthis is a pre-internet scam.
Almost Okay, Because you knowthat's how con artists work in
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the past, right Back in the dayyep, so yeah, this is good.
So I mean, the good thing isthat if they ever catch this guy
, at least he'll be able to beidentified.
Nathan Mum (14:59):
But what happens when you go to the police
department and tell them thatyou were just scammed?
What does the police departmentsay to you I don't know, I'm
not a cop.
Okay, so the police departmentand most Did you call the cops.
Mike Gorday (15:10):
No, no, but most of the time.
Nathan Mum (15:11):
I had a person break into my car in downtown Seattle
.
Mike Gorday (15:14):
Yeah, a while ago, and you know what I got broken
into when I first moved here.
Nathan Mum (15:19):
Okay, the police will give you a record, they'll
give you an ID of informationand they'll say if we find
anything, we will contact you.
That's true, and so nothingreally happens.
Mike Gorday (15:31):
That's true, except they caught my guy.
They caught your guy.
It was actually not a guy, itwas actually a woman, okay, who
broke into my place looking fordrugs, stole all the computers
and all this other stuff, andthey identified one of the
computers that was stolen.
Nathan Mum (15:48):
Did she try to hawk it at some type of oh?
Mike Gorday (15:50):
yeah, they found her in her car.
Her car was full of stolenitems and they were trying to
pawn them and it was a so do wego to vigilante?
Nathan Mum (15:59):
I mean, the only thing I can think of is, like
Marvel superhero stuff.
I mean.
Ody (16:02):
Another frustrating thing about that is if you are scammed
online through like a bankingthing, they tell you to make a
police report to have record ofit, and then the police send you
to like an FBI website theyused to they used to, but now
they no longer have staffing forthe FBI because it was a
technology deal.
Nathan Mum (16:21):
So now what you do is you get.
So I had somebody that just gotscammed some money and then
you'd used to go and fill out anFBI report, which you still do
and then you go to contact themand it says that we don't have
enough service individuals.
If this is an emergency, pleasecontact us.
Or if it's over a milliondollars that has been lost, then
please contact us.
So if you're a small person nownow you're just kind of out
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there going.
Mike Gorday (16:50):
This is taking advantage of people face-to-face
because you know you want totrust people.
Marc Gregoire (16:55):
Yeah.
Mike Gorday (16:56):
Our nature is to want to trust people.
Our nature is to want tocollaborate, and work.
Nathan Mum (17:03):
You figure, if someone is coming to your place,
that they're going to besomewhat legit.
Mike Gorday (17:09):
Right work is the con artist or the person that is
doing the scam.
Uh, engenders himself to you,based on on human nature.
So we want personality we wantthat, we want that connection,
we want that, that trust.
So they engender that, theythey build rapport and then they
they allow you to do.
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And if, if someone came to yourhouse and said here, okay, okay
, we can do it on my phone, youwould be more likely to say yes
to that than if they did anonline transaction.
That's correct.
Hey, I'll just send you a link.
So, yeah, you got to be reallyon your ball when you're dealing
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with this stuff, when you'redealing with this stuff and it's
always interesting to me abouthow going back to old ways works
better now than it did in theold days.
All right, okay, that's all Ihave to say about that.
Nathan Mum (18:04):
So the app is on the store and it's been reported
and guess what?
Nobody's doing anything reallyabout it, so it's just going to
sit there on the app store forpeople to download and then,
hopefully, banks then changetheir front end transfer
information so it doesn't lookthe same.
Mike Gorday (18:18):
Well, I'm guessing this is what you're going to ask
me later, so we can see.
Nathan Mum (18:22):
Yeah, I guess I do have a question out there.
All right Story.
Number three Google has illegaladvertising monopoly Judge
rules.
The US judge has determinedthat Google, the tech giant,
holds a monopoly on onlineadvertising.
Us judges determined thatGoogle, the tech giant, holds a
monopoly on online advertising.
The US Department of Justice,together with 17 states, filed a
lawsuit against Google,claiming it illegally dominates
the technology that dictates theplacement of online ads.
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Now the US District JudgeBirken Birken Birkema.
Mike Gorday (18:49):
Is that Birkema, birkema?
No, that's Brinkema, brinkema,brinkema.
Nathan Mum (18:54):
Brin, is that birkenau?
Mike Gorday (18:54):
birkenau.
No, that's a brinkima brink.
Nathan Mum (18:55):
It brink brink brinkima okay, all right,
whatever decided declared thatgoogle had willfully engaged
thank you.
Anti-competitive acts allowingit to acquire and maintain
monopoly power in the market.
This marks the second antitrustcase google has lost within a
year following a rule thatestablishes monopoly and online
(19:15):
search.
So Google's in charge of search.
They're getting broken up forsearch.
Now they're getting broken upfor their advertising because
they're kind of the leader ofadvertising that places you in
the search algorithm that theyown.
So now Google is going to havelike 27 AT&T breakup.
What is it?
(19:36):
Was it Bell?
Was it Bell Institutes?
Mike Gorday (19:39):
Who is the big phone.
Nathan Mum (19:40):
Bell Telephone System.
Mike Gorday (19:40):
Bell Telephone System.
That was man.
That's like that was a longtime ago, that's way back in the
Well, I'm just saying Is it the80s, but it was like one
telephone company that was atelephone.
Nathan Mum (19:58):
No, I think it was 70s A telephone company that was
running it.
So Google's legal team contendsthat the case is overly
centered on its past actions,while overlooking other major
advertising technology providerslike Amazon.
We're so excited to becelebrating our Amazon Prime
Squared Obtuse Holiday, so wedon't want to be picking on
Amazon at all until at leastnext segment.
Okay, all right.
That wraps up our technologystories of the week.
Next we're going to dive intoour special segment that we have
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Nathan Mum (21:16):
All right, welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan
Mumm.
Our weekly show covers the toptechnology subjects without any
political agenda.
We verify the facts and we doit with a sense of humor, in
less than 60 minutes and, ofcourse, with a little whiskey on
the side.
Today, mark Gregoire, ourwhiskey connoisseur, is in
studio.
Marc Gregoire (21:30):
What have you chosen today.
Today we are drinking ElijahCraig toasted rye, so from
Elijah Craig's website.
In this expression, we imbueour award-winning straight rye
whiskey with even more flavorOnce fully matured.
We finish toasted rye in asecond custom toasted new oak
barrel, adding a balanced layerof sweet oak and complexity.
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Now this is from Heaven Hill,which is one of your favorite
companies.
This is so good.
Nathan Mum (21:58):
How can I be?
Critical this is so good.
Let's talk about that criticalpalate you got going on oh man,
this is fantastic Well criticaljust means you're very
particular.
Marc Gregoire (22:07):
You can still love things on a critical palate
.
Nathan Mum (22:09):
Oh, this is like butter.
Mike Gorday (22:11):
This is so, so, so, so what he just said, is that
you have to say thumbs downanyway.
Marc Gregoire (22:16):
Okay, no, no, no this is from Elijah Craig's
Distillery in Bardstown,kentucky.
It's a straight rye.
It's non-age stated, it's 94proof, it's barely a rye.
So it's 51% rye, 35% corn, 14%malted barley.
It is $55.
Dollars, man.
Nathan Mum (22:35):
this is so so so good yeah it's very sweet do you
like it, mike?
I don't want to give it thumbsup, I do it's, it's, it's sweet.
Mike Gorday (22:43):
Um, it's definitely .
You said how much on the corn Ican definitely five percent
corn so that that's.
That's where that sweetnesscomes.
Nathan Mum (22:51):
Absolutely, yeah, look at you, at you, conor
Seward.
All right, is this from yourpersonal collection?
Marc Gregoire (22:58):
This is my bottle .
Nathan Mum (22:59):
Oh, you purchased this.
Marc Gregoire (23:01):
I purchased it Okay.
Nathan Mum (23:02):
It's not very expensive.
No, it's not, it's $55.
Marc Gregoire (23:04):
I'm going to start paying.
Mike Gorday (23:06):
I got it on sale.
I got it for $50.
Nathan Mum (23:09):
Yeah, for $50.
Mike Gorday (23:10):
It's got everything that Nathan gives a thumbs up
on.
Nathan Mum (23:15):
I know it's under $50.
It's got a cork top.
Marc Gregoire (23:17):
Oh, not just a cork, nice wood, it's a wooden
cork top with a popping sound.
Nathan Mum (23:25):
It gives you that nice cork squeak.
Marc Gregoire (23:28):
Alright.
Well, don't forget to like andsubscribe to the show.
It means a lot to us.
Drink responsibly, especiallyon this liquor Heaven can wait.
Nathan Mum (23:35):
There you go All right With our whiskey tasting
completed.
Today we're doing our ownholiday.
This is Amazon holiday knockoff.
We're calling it Amazon PrimeSquare Obtuse.
Let's start this segment now.
Speaker 9 (23:53):
Welcome to the Tech Time.
Fictional holiday amazon primesquared obtuse.
What do these crazy guys havein store today?
Marc Gregoire (24:02):
all right, so that's what we got.
So so why you need, why no plusin it?
Oh well, because that, becauseyou know where's the plus hang
on, hang on.
Nathan Mum (24:10):
amazon has not just one holiday, but they have many
holidays throughout the year.
So let me just tell you thatthe voice and that music is not
going to be the first time youhear it this year.
There will probably be two orthree other fake Okay.
You know, it's just holidaysthat we now create for tech time
holidays.
Mike Gorday (24:28):
This is the Amazon related one.
You don't have any idea of howto build suspense, do you?
Why is that?
Nathan Mum (24:34):
Well, just wait until.
Well, you know what we couldhave like a Google day?
We could have an alphabet day.
We could have the Muppets.
The Muppets come on out and sayone of the count counting.
Mike Gorday (24:43):
Mark's point we've talked about this before.
You should add plus to the endof everything.
Nathan Mum (24:47):
You should have plus , yes, and you should than them
and be plus, plus, plus, plus,plus, plus, plus.
All right, okay, I got storynumber one.
Mike Gorday (25:01):
uh, I got story number two, and then you know
what, mike, I'm gonna give youthe last two stories you can't
pronounce the words no, no, no,all right.
Nathan Mum (25:05):
Story number one.
These are all related to amazon, so in our pre-show we were
doing what we wanted to talkabout today, and there was so
much that's going on in theamazon world that that's why we
created this fake holiday.
We have a live action PacificRim TV series in development at
Amazon, according to a varietyof news, for the project was
first shared in 2024.
But now they've reported gottenthe arrival.
(25:29):
Screenwriter Eric has here wasattached to develop and write
the show.
The new series will apparentlybe a prequel to the original
Pacific Rim, a movie aboutfighting giant mechs and the
humans that pilot them.
What do you think?
Mike Gorday (25:42):
about this, what I think about this is that every
time Amazon purchases somethingthat I like, they turn it into
meat paste.
What, yeah, come on Rings ofPower is pretty good.
Nathan Mum (25:51):
No, what, no?
Oh, I think Mark on rings ofpower is pretty good, no, what
no?
Marc Gregoire (25:57):
oh, I think, mark , would you disagree with me
here.
Nathan Mum (25:58):
Do you like rings of power?
I like rings of power.
Mike Gorday (25:59):
Okay, all right, so see, okay, there you go, I
think they have, they have, theyhave taken, they have taken the
narrative out of tolkien's arcsyeah and that's what they do.
That's why I don't like ringsof power.
They did they.
They've done a lot of it withother things like uh, the wheel
of time series is a complete isa complete horrible.
Nathan Mum (26:19):
We tried watching that.
It's nothing like the books no,it well it is.
Mike Gorday (26:23):
It is kind of no, the main character, that the
main the main characters are thesame, the stories are related,
but they've changed everythingaround so that it's just.
It just sucks, all right, okay,well now, you know I'm not.
Marc Gregoire (26:39):
Are you taking on the critical role now?
Mike Gorday (26:41):
I I you know I always bitch about this stuff
but you like pacific rim, I'mnot.
I'm not a huge pacific rim fan,but I can't wait to see how
they screw this there you go.
Okay, all right, can't wait.
Nathan Mum (26:50):
Well, you know what, speaking of uh movies, we're
going right on the next idealet's let's get more of these in
the road to see how they screwthis up.
There you go.
Okay, all right, can't wait.
Well, you know what?
Speaking of movies, we're goingright on to the next idea let's
get more of these in the road,robotaxis, right.
So we have Waymo.
We got everybody out there, butnow we have Zoox.
Z-o-o-x, the autonomous drivingtechnology company owned by
Amazon, is preparing to begintesting its vehicles of all
(27:13):
places Los Angeles this summer.
What a place to put them in?
Why don't you just pick theworst place with traffic, throw
them on the freeways and we'llsee how well they do that's
actually probably a good placeto put them, because they're not
going to move more than fivefeet.
Mike Gorday (27:29):
There you go.
Nathan Mum (27:31):
Founded in 2014 and acquired by Amazon in 2020.
Zoox is one of the severalefforts to bring self-driving
technology into the mainstream.
Now Tesla chief executive ElonMusk isn't happy about this.
He's been touting the potentialof autonomous driving vehicles
for you and Waymo, owned byGoogle parent company Alphabet,
is already operating driverlesstaxis in multiple cities,
(27:53):
including Los Angeles, sanFrancisco and Phoenix.
Now Zeke's testing in LosAngeles will lay the groundwork
for future commercial services.
The company spokesman said thecompany plans to welcome its
first public riders in Las Vegasand San Francisco by the end of
the year.
Marc Gregoire (28:09):
Get on board, boys.
This is the wave of the future.
It's going to be RoboTaxis.
It's going to be a little roughat first, but this is the way
it's going to go.
Mike Gorday (28:15):
I only want Johnny Cab.
Nathan Mum (28:17):
You only want Johnny Cab.
Mike Gorday (28:18):
That's what I want.
I want Johnny Cab.
Nathan Mum (28:20):
Johnny Cab, from what was that?
Total Recall, total Recall Okay.
Mike Gorday (28:26):
But I think this is one of these things that really
is not good for our future,because you have all these
companies competing in this onemarket.
Nathan Mum (28:36):
It's like with with virtual reality reality you know
where Apple kind of came lateand really it's now meta that
owns it still.
Mike Gorday (28:43):
Yeah so.
So one doesn't work like theother, and I don't know
Microsoft stopped doing it.
Nathan Mum (28:49):
Okay, well, all right.
Well news, breaking news.
You know we got a big flashgoing across the top of the
internet reader bar right nowfor our holiday Buy.
Now this is a lightning plussale.
So you decided to put thelightning plus sale.
You got our next article.
Story number three.
Mike Gorday (29:06):
You're not going to talk about how they, how they
grabbed Highlander rights andthey're going to make me talk
about that.
Nathan Mum (29:11):
Yeah, that's your story, you got that one.
You talk rights and they'regoing to make me talk about that
.
Yeah, that's your story.
You got that one.
You talk about that.
No, I'm supposed to talk about,okay, all right, amazon.
Amazon has landed the highlinerrights and henry cavill is the
star.
Mike Gorday (29:22):
As they say, in the highlander franchise, there can
only be one there can only no,no, there could be only one,
that can only be one.
Nathan Mum (29:29):
There can be only one.
So okay, and in the case of thelatest reimagines new home
studio, Amazon's MGM studios andUnited artists have combined.
Sources tell deadline thatAmazon's MGM studios have secure
the rights to remake a newvision of Highlander A new meat
paste version.
Are you excited about that?
Mike Gorday (29:47):
No.
Nathan Mum (29:48):
I mean Amazon.
Let me just tell you thisthey're buying up every
intellectual property they can.
Ody (29:52):
Yeah.
Mike Gorday (29:59):
They're other than disney and marvel.
That has that point.
At some point they're gonna ownthe market.
I expect that they're gonna getjudged, you're gonna be uh,
they're gonna, yeah, they'regonna be declared a monopoly and
they're gonna have to go infront probably but you know, we
got all right, you got storynumber four.
Nathan Mum (30:11):
And and then we still have another one coming on
up for our amazon, yeah wellamazon again is taking us one
step closer to the reality ofwhat's that?
Mike Gorday (30:21):
what's that movie that I love?
It's a disney movie.
Disney movie tron with therobot tron wally, little more
wally.
Nathan Mum (30:29):
Yes, we're one more.
Mike Gorday (30:31):
We're one step closer to the the reality of
wally.
Oh, amazon's inaugural,inaugural launch of project
what's?
How do you pronounce it?
Is it coupler, copper, cuper,copper, kuiper, kuiper project,
kuiper internet satellites,kuiper won the launch of ula
atlas v551 rocket carrying thefirst production satellites for
(30:54):
amazon's project kuiper is nowplanned for April 28th, I think
that's interesting.
Nathan Mum (30:58):
That's like Mel Kuiper's draft board thing.
Mike Gorday (31:00):
I think that this is interesting, that they call
it Project Kuiper, becauseKuiper is this big, huge
asteroid belt that existsoutside of our little planetary
system here, oh okay.
No, it's between us and Jupiter, I think.
Oh, but it's this big asteroidbuilt Okay With Project Kuiper.
One of Amazon's goal is to takeon SpaceX's Starlink internet
(31:23):
service, which started in 2019and now provides broadband
connectivity to individuals andbusinesses via a growing
constellation of smallsatellites.
Nathan Mum (31:32):
Yeah, man, that's getting tough.
How are you going?
Mike Gorday (31:35):
to get through space soon.
Soon you're going to have toshoot a shuttle up there.
We're one step closer.
Nathan Mum (31:37):
There'll be this intersection between the
satellites.
You can then proceed on.
Otherwise you're going to hitall these.
Marc Gregoire (31:42):
But it's interesting that Amazon is going
in LA against Musk and nowthey're going into space against
Musk.
Mike Gorday (31:48):
It's a big Bezos Musk kind of right now it's a
huge billionaire pissing contestis what it is Okay.
Marc Gregoire (31:55):
I'll have to agree with you, Mike.
Mike Gorday (31:58):
For subsequent Amazon's April 28 mission will
deploy 27 Project Kuipersatellites to orbit the maximum
number of Kuiper satellites thatULA's Atlas V rocket can carry
in a single deployment.
For subsequent missions, Amazonwill also use ULA's Atlas V
rocket can carry in a singledeployment.
Okay, For subsequent missions,Amazon will also use ULA's newer
(32:18):
Vulcan rocket, which can carryas many as 45 Kuiper satellites
in one flight, as well as theNew Glenn, a new lift-heavy
rocket operated by Blue Origin.
Did you hear?
Nathan Mum (32:29):
about the Blue Origin stuff with bases opening
up the hatch, and it was alreadypre-opened.
Did you see any of?
Mike Gorday (32:34):
that stuff?
No, I didn't see that.
Oh, it was pretty funny, didthey call?
Nathan Mum (32:37):
it A1 sauce?
No, they did not call it A1sauce, though.
Mike Gorday (32:40):
Amazon is planning to build a constellation of
around 3,200 Project Kuipersatellites by 2029.
This will be enough to offerglobal broadband coverage,
giving it a chance to competewith SpaceX Starlink service and
completely clutter up theheavens that we enjoy.
Nathan Mum (32:58):
Yeah, you'll be thinking those are stars and
those would be satellites.
I'll be all moving all overeverywhere.
Just think, if you look at theconstellations it'll be like oh,
that's my satellite forinternet.
Oh, that's my satellite for TV.
Oh, that's my satellite for All.
Right, well, that ends our techtime radio made up amazon
holiday.
What'd you guys think aboutthat was that wasn't that
exciting.
(33:18):
Amazon prime squared, obtusethat that that will probably not
be the last time that's.
Mike Gorday (33:24):
We have this holiday.
That's really exciting.
Okay, I'm really excited.
Nathan Mum (33:27):
All right, let's move on now to mike's
mesmerizing moment.
Welcome to mike's mesmerizingmoment.
What does mike have to saytoday?
All right, mike, what steps canpeople take to avoid the scam
that you talked about today inthe first segment?
Let's just kind of talk aboutthis how do we avoid?
How?
Mike Gorday (33:47):
these scams.
Well, first off is you don't.
You don't trust the tech.
Okay, don't trust technology,yeah don't don't trust the tech.
Nathan Mum (33:54):
Don't trust the tech .
Okay, don't trust technology,yeah.
Mike Gorday (33:56):
Don't, don't trust the tech, don't trust the person
that's using the tech.
Okay, and it's not to be meanto that other person, okay, but
you know, back in the day if Iwere selling a car and I had
somebody that came along and waslike, hey, can I write you a
check for the car?
Speaker 6 (34:10):
No, go, get the cash Cash in hand right.
Mike Gorday (34:14):
So don't be pressured into accepting a bank
transfer over an electronicdevice.
Marc Gregoire (34:22):
That's obviously the very basic level that you
should be.
Mike Gorday (34:30):
Don't hand over the goods until hand over the goods
.
Until now, if they venmo you,you know, if they use cash apps,
you can.
You can see this independentlyon your phone.
Yeah, within about a minute,right, so so doing that this way
is also recommendable right soif you are going to accept
(34:51):
electronic transfers, only usethose apps.
Don't allow them to use somethird party app you've never
heard of, or direct transfer ifthey.
If they tell you they can't usea cash app, too bad, or are you
gonna say they're already?
Ody (35:06):
uh paypal goods and services as well yep, in case it
does is a scam.
You can get it back okay, sothere you go so check your back.
Mike Gorday (35:16):
Check your own bank account use paypal will from
your advertising all overeverywhere on tv.
Nathan Mum (35:21):
Right now they're giving away a million.
That means they're in trouble.
Okay, all right.
What else?
Mike Gorday (35:27):
anything else um, you know, you can check to see
if the the buyer really has alike a brand new social media
account.
Okay, that's always asuspicious thing.
Nathan Mum (35:39):
I sell pinball machines and somebody had never
has an account.
They all of a sudden said thatthey wanted to pay me ten
thousand dollars if I'd box themup and ship it to them.
Never had an account, yeah, sothey were going to pay me like
almost double what the value ofthese things are, which should
have been the first deal.
Like okay, but I have to boxhim up, take pictures and then
send them to him and he'll giveme a delivery driver that he
(36:01):
knows personally that will pickhim up and drive him down to
oregon.
Mike Gorday (36:05):
Yeah, well, I think that.
I think the key to thisparticular scam, though, is the
actual face-to-face stuff.
Yeah, um, and it's a hard thingto say, just don't trust it.
Nathan Mum (36:17):
It is especially when you're talking to the
person.
Mike Gorday (36:19):
But if you're selling stuff, yeah, if you need
to have, you need to have sortof like that attitude.
You need to have that distrustof the person don't.
Nathan Mum (36:29):
Don't trust until verify, then trust that's right
on something that's exactly nottrust, and trust that's right
when you're selling somethingthat's exactly Not trust.
And verify Trust, but verifyright.
Mike Gorday (36:36):
Or verify, then trust, or whatever.
But the point is is that don'tallow somebody to use their
technology to do the transfer Ifthey can't access Venmo or Cash
App.
That's a scam.
That's the primary.
That's one of the primarythings that if you hear that I
(36:56):
can't use Venmo, well, you canhave the tools.
There you go.
That makes sense.
Nathan Mum (37:00):
All right.
Well, thank you, mike, for thatmesmerizing moment we have up
next this week in technology.
So now would be a great time toenjoy a little whiskey on the
side, as we will be doing soduring the break.
See you in a few minutes.
Hey, mike.
Yeah, what's up?
Hey, so you know what.
We need people to start likingour social media pages.
Mike Gorday (37:16):
If you like our show, if you really like us we
could use your support onPatreoncom, or is it Patreon?
I think it's Patreon.
Okay, patreon, if you reallylike us, you can like us in.
Patreoncom.
Nathan Mum (37:29):
I butcher the English language you know, you
butcher the English language, soit's Patreoncom, patreoncom.
If you really like our show,you can subscribe to patreoncom
and help us out, and you canvisit us on that Facebook
platform.
You know, the one thatZuckerberg owns, the one that we
always bag on.
Yeah, we're on Facebook too.
Yeah, like us on Facebook.
(37:50):
Do you know what our Facebookpage is?
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Mike Gorday (37:56):
At TechTimeRadio, and you know what?
There's a trend here?
It seems to be that there's atrend, and that's TechTimeRadio.
Nathan Mum (37:59):
Or you can even Instagram with us, and that's at
TechTimeRadio.
That's at TechTimeRadio.
Or you can find us on TikTok,and it's TechTimeRadio.
It's at TechTimeRadio.
Mike Gorday (38:12):
Like and subscribe to our social.
Nathan Mum (38:14):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
That's that simple and now let's look back at this
week in technology all right onour way back machine.
Nathan Mum (38:24):
We're going to april 26, 1999, before y2k.
First known flash bios virus.
The first known virus to targetthe flash BIOS.
The BIOS is the aspect of whenyour computer boots up with a
hard drive.
What's inside of it?
Your processors, your memory.
The BIOS is the most importantaspect of any computer, any tool
(38:47):
, including your phone, cellphone.
So this is the most importantpart of any electronic computer
device.
Now, this first known virus totarget the flash bios of a PC
was called the CIH Chernobylvirus.
It triggered payload on the day, erasing hard drives and
disabling PCs, primarily in Asiaand Europe.
(39:07):
One of the most destructiveviruses in history.
It estimated that 60 billionPCs were affected worldwide,
causing 1 billion in damage, andthat was 95% of the PCs in Asia
and Europe.
At the time, the virus had beencreated exactly one year earlier
, on April 26, 1998, by aTaiwanese student, chin Ing Ha,
(39:29):
and set to trigger itsdestructive payload exactly one
year later.
It began to spread in the wildand was first discovered in June
of 1998, given the name CIH dueto the author's initials
discovered in the virus codeitself.
From this time forward, it'sbeen reported that a variety of
companies accidentallydistributed the virus through
their own downloads, updates andCDs.
(39:49):
So what happened is this becamesuch a low basic code that when
people were sharing files andthey were creating new stuff,
they were actually downloadingthem.
These were distributed by allthe American online CDs.
You remember getting thoseAmerican online CDs in the mail?
Mike Gorday (40:04):
Oh, yeah, yeah, I used to throw them across the
yard or hang them up like directrations.
Nathan Mum (40:08):
I mean you would get one every month.
Right, you would get at leastone every month.
Mike Gorday (40:12):
I made a fountain out of one.
Nathan Mum (40:16):
Did you really?
Yeah, okay, well, so whathappened is they were known.
This actual virus was in theAmerican online software update
that people were loading.
Fantastic, you've got mail.
Yes, you got something else.
Well, the virus triggered onthis date.
It just happened to coincidewith the date of the Chernobyl
disaster in 1986.
And therefore press begancalling it the Chernobyl virus,
even though there has never beenany evidence to show that it
(40:37):
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Nathan Mum (41:53):
I I love it All right.
Marc Gregoire (41:55):
What do we got going on today here?
Well, today, april 22nd, we arecelebrating School Bus Driver
Appreciation Day.
Okay, what, oh School?
Mike Gorday (42:03):
Bus Driver Is Lunch Lady Appreciation Day in there
too, what?
Nathan Mum (42:06):
Lunch Lady.
Appreciation Day, lunch Lady.
Oh okay, I remember this.
Marc Gregoire (42:08):
That's a different day that's a different
day, so tell us about this.
So School Bus Driver Dayoriginated in California and was
created to draw special publicattention to school bus drivers
in California for their enduringand exceptional contribution to
students.
It's a well-deserved tribute toall the men and women who
devote their lives to ensuringthat children go to school every
(42:29):
day, while remaining patient,helpful and upbeat throughout
the day.
Okay, did you ever ride the?
Nathan Mum (42:33):
bus to school.
I did not, I did.
Okay, odie, did you ever ridethe bus?
Marc Gregoire (42:36):
to school.
I did not, I did.
Nathan Mum (42:37):
Odie, did you ride the bus to school?
Oh yeah.
What was your experience like?
Mike Gorday (42:43):
It depended on which bus driver I had.
I had cool bus drivers and thenI had Hitler bus drivers.
Okay, all right, they were toscream at you all day long they
screamed wow, okay.
Stop looking, be quiet, alright.
Okay, I will throw you out onthe road, run you over three
(43:05):
times.
Nathan Mum (43:06):
Did you not behave in the bus?
I behaved.
The wheels on the bus go roundand round right.
Ody (43:12):
When were you on a school bus?
That was a long time ago.
Marc Gregoire (43:14):
That was a long time ago.
That was a long long time ago,whoa whoa, whoa, whoa.
Ody (43:17):
Okay, but I was on it from elementary through middle school
, but through high school Iwalked.
Mike Gorday (43:23):
I was in it through high school until I got a car.
Ody (43:26):
Okay so from elementary through high school.
Mike Gorday (43:29):
Yeah, I rode buses from very young.
Okay, mark, when did?
Marc Gregoire (43:33):
you ride yours?
Mine was public bus and thatwas second and third grade.
Oh, actually I did ride publicbus in my junior high.
He didn't say school bus.
Nathan Mum (43:45):
It's school bus day, though.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
He's blending all the bus drivers.
Nathan Mum (43:50):
That doesn't count, mark Alright.
Continue on about this day.
We're excited.
Marc Gregoire (43:53):
Alright, well, school bus drivers, like my
grandfather who did it after heretired from my uncle's school,
here's a toast toasted rye if Ihad any left, I would be
toasting.
Mike Gorday (44:03):
I'm done I'm.
I finished my glass me too.
Marc Gregoire (44:06):
This toasted rye's process begins with the
fully matured elijah craigstraight rye whiskey, which is
then dumped and re-entered atbarrel proof into a second
custom toasted new oak barreldesigned in partnership with the
Independent Stave Company.
The toast on these secondarybarrels is unique to Elijah
Craig toasted rye.
At the end of nearly anhour-long toasting process, a
(44:29):
cap is placed on the barrel toquickly ramp up the heat to an
extremely high temperature,allowing the fennels to embed in
the surface of the barrel foran added element of smoke to
complement the spice andsweetness of the rye.
Unlike many other finishedwhiskeys, this whiskey retains
its status as a Kentuckystraight rye whiskey because the
(44:50):
second finished barrel is bothnew and charred.
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Now, in September 2020, elijahCraig released their toasted
barrel finished bourbon, whichyou have on your shelf back
there.
I do.
I'm not a huge fan of it, but Iknow Nathan is, I am, and this
is really good.
That's on the very top shelf.
Now that one did make a goodcocktail.
Now, since then, everybody hasbeen waiting for them to release
(45:13):
a toasted rye, and here it isfinally.
This is good and it is bothdelicious, neat and in a
cocktail.
It's not a high-end or overlycomplex rye.
However, for the price it'ssomething to at least try once
and second time and the thirdtime and the fourth time, we're
both through our thing.
Mike Gorday (45:31):
I can see how critical that palate's going.
Alright, I can see how criticalthat palette's going, that's
right.
Nathan Mum (45:34):
Well, mark, you know what I strive when I retire, to
actually be a school bus driverfor our local schools also
Excellent, but I'm going toprobably be that Hitler type
that you're talking about.
I'd be like don't talk toanybody, you sit down, put your
hands by each other so thatpeople feel safe?
Speaker 4 (45:51):
I don't think I would drive a bus in this day and age
?
Nathan Mum (45:53):
Really no, I don't think I would drive a bus in
this day and age.
Mike Gorday (45:55):
Really no.
Nathan Mum (45:56):
I think that would be a great way to give back to
the community.
Marc Gregoire (45:59):
Oh, okay, I don't think you would be Unless you
drive it off a bridge.
I don't think you'd bedraconian.
You're going to want to swapand trade.
Nathan Mum (46:06):
Oh, I may be trading , I may be trading.
And toys, oh yeah.
Mike Gorday (46:12):
Transformer, with all the behavior problems that
are going on in schools rightnow.
Nathan Mum (46:16):
I probably really relate to those kids.
What are you talking about?
Mike Gorday (46:19):
They'll be like, hey, they're my jam, yeah you
probably walk on the bus with ashotgun full of salt.
Wow, okay what?
Nathan Mum (46:27):
were you going to say Odie?
Ody (46:29):
I liked my school bus drivers growing up.
They all had their own littlething.
Mike Gorday (46:33):
I don't think.
Ody (46:33):
I had any Hitler ones.
Mike Gorday (46:35):
I had some cool bus drivers, but I often remember
the ones that screamed andyelled all the time my parents
would drop me off to school inhigh school until I could drive.
Things were a lot differentback then, when I was young.
The teachers were often nastyevil.
Nathan Mum (46:51):
They'd sometimes hit your hands.
Mike Gorday (46:53):
Yeah, I had a teacher that would throw erasers
at your head if you weren'tpaying attention.
She would scream at you in themiddle of the class.
In fact, she ruled with suchfear that people were afraid to
ask her to go to the bathroom,so they would just pee in their
pants.
Marc Gregoire (47:10):
Oh wow, I'm sorry .
Is this what's wrong with you?
Yeah, no, that wasn't me.
I didn't do that, I just watchpeople do it, Mike.
Nathan Mum (47:16):
I'm sorry.
Is this what's wrong with?
Mike Gorday (47:17):
you?
Yeah, no, that wasn't me.
I didn't do that, I just watchpeople do it.
I barf dinner laptop, that's awhole story.
Nathan Mum (47:24):
Whiskey and technology are such a great
pairing, just like potatoesbeing served with steak.
That's a good one.
Marc Gregoire (47:30):
You know what have you ever?
Nathan Mum (47:33):
gone to a steak restaurant where they didn't
have potatoes as a side.
No, I cannot think of any placethat may have a substitute for
pasta, but the main plate isnormally steak and it's normally
a potato item.
You got one, odie.
Why are you explaining that toeverybody?
Ody (47:52):
Culturally I would say beans and rice.
Marc Gregoire (47:57):
I love rice with steak.
My wife thinks I'm crazy.
Well, you know, Mark, you kindof, are she's not wrong?
Mike Gorday (48:04):
Okay there you go.
Marc Gregoire (48:05):
Yeah, those two are delicious.
Nathan Mum (48:08):
Okay, well, we got lots to talk about, so let's
prepare for our Technology Failof the Week, brought to you by
Elite Executive Servicestechnology experts to help you
out of a technology fail.
Congratulations, You're afailure.
Speaker 9 (48:20):
Oh, I failed.
Did I, yes, did I.
Nathan Mum (48:24):
Yes, all right.
This week's technology failurecomes to us from the Seattle
Department of Transportation andhaving their crosswalks hacked.
Seattle crosswalk buttons werehacked all across the nation to
sound like Jeff All acrossSeattle.
No, across the nation becausethey happened in San Francisco.
Oh really, yes, it has SanFrancisco, and it happened in
(48:46):
Texas and other locations, oh,okay.
So there's a Zuckerberg version.
There's an Elon Musk version andour own Pacific Northwest
version is Jeff Bezos.
Now, we were lucky enough tocapture some of this audio, so,
odie, can you play that audiofor us?
Speaker 4 (49:08):
Hi, I'm Jeff Bezos.
This crosswalk is sponsored byAmazon Prime with an important
message.
You know, please, please, don'ttax the rich, otherwise all the
other billionaires will move toFlorida too.
Wouldn't it be terrible if allthe rich people left Seattle or
got Luigi'd and then normalpeople could afford to live here
(49:31):
again?
Jeffrey Jeffrey Bezos.
Nathan Mum (49:37):
All right, so we have that.
Ody (49:38):
You know what they're forgetting?
What's that?
A code word.
Nathan Mum (49:41):
A code word.
A code word, what's that?
Ody (49:44):
To know that it's not actually them.
Nathan Mum (49:46):
Oh, okay.
Oh, that's right.
Oh, that's from last week'sepisode.
They should have said I'm JeffBezos.
My code word is donkey.
Mike Gorday (49:57):
Donkey, it is donkey donkey.
Nathan Mum (49:57):
Oh, that's right, that's good.
Okay, did you like the gotluigi part?
So do you know what that means?
That's the dude that killed theceo.
Is that they're how they'reusing it, okay?
Mike Gorday (50:04):
because, uh, it used to mean just downgraded to
to uh nerf, nerf land okay,where you had to play the basic
game because you couldn't do iton normal.
Yeah, the crosswalk issponsored.
Couldn't do it on normal.
Nathan Mum (50:15):
Yeah, the crosswalk is sponsored by Amazon Prime.
It says with an importantmessage don't tax the rich,
Otherwise the other billionaireswill move to Florida, or you
know?
Wouldn't it be terrible if therich people left Seattle and
they got Luigi'd and the normalpeople could afford to live here
again?
The audio recording atcrosswalks play a critical role
for people who are blind andhave limited vision, helping
them cross the street safely.
(50:36):
The seattle department oftransportation said in an email
statement we are concerned thatsomeone would disregard the
safety of people to make apolitical statement and part of
south lake union neighborhood,where amazon headquarters campus
is located now.
Bezos left seattle for southflorida in 2023, raising
questions at the time whetherWashington state's capital gains
(50:57):
tax was partly to blame.
The Luigi reference is to theman accused of killing United
healthcare CEO Brian Thompson inNew York city in December.
The audio also includes asnippet of the viral basil song
by musician Bo Burnham.
Have you guys seen that?
Have you?
Have you watched that wholevideo?
Oh my gosh, Hilarious, Okay,never mind, All right.
(51:17):
Crashback buttons in SiliconValley were hacked, also
including audio voices thatsounded like Meta CEO Mark
Zuckerberg and Tesla CEO ElonMusk, and it's normal to feel
uncomfortable or even violatedas we forcefully insert AI into
every facet of yourconsciousness.
Experience was the Zuckerbergsounding button.
I just want to ensure you youdon't have to worry, because
(51:38):
there's absolutely nothing youcan do about it.
And then you know what?
Why don't you hear?
Take a look at Elon Musk's.
He says I guess they say moneycan't buy happiness.
I guess that's true.
God knows, I've tried.
But if you can buy a cybertruck, that's pretty sick, right
, Said the Musk button.
And then it goes on to swear,saying F, I'm so alone.
So there you go.
(52:00):
Now it's unknown who's behindthis stunt.
Actually, it's not unknown.
There's people that have claimedthis stunt on the dark web, so
it's absolutely known whichgroup did this?
I did it.
Marc Gregoire (52:09):
Well no, you didn't.
Nathan Mum (52:11):
But, all right, the hacker group infiltrated the
technology that controls deviceswhich usually emit sound audio
commands, or an ai voice thatsays walk, walk, walk.
You know, what I now know isthat I don't have to have that
animatronic voice of walk.
If you spend enough time in thetransportation systems, you can
come up with a very coolsounding audio to play when I'm
(52:33):
crossing the road.
So you know what?
I think that we need to come upwith some cool audios.
I mean, everybody's intocorporate sponsorships, so we
should say hey, you know, thiscrosswalk is sponsored by XYZ.
You know, come join us at theSeattle Mariners game.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Mike Gorday (52:46):
As you're walking across.
Yeah, let's not do that.
Nathan Mum (52:48):
No, let's just keep it like basic and let people
live, all right well, there is awhole group that is being
encouraged, such as hacktivism,to say right now, things are not
going very well.
You can take a look at ayoutube video.
Just search for walk signhacktivision and you'll find the
group that is takingresponsibility for this social
(53:11):
media hack.
Wow, we're gonna take acommercial break.
When we return, we have ourNathan negative or Nathan rant,
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This is your Nugget of the Week.
Nathan Mum (53:45):
All right, so I want to go back to one of our lead
stories here.
When an employee, partner orinvestor interacts with a leader
, they are participating in acomplex social agreement rooted
in vulnerability and sharedobjectives well you didn't write
that sentence?
No, he totally didn't why whatthe heck was that a1 that wrote
that for you?
No, it was no a1.
They observe micro expressions,emotional states and adjusted
(54:09):
bases on subtle signals that notai.
Mike Gorday (54:12):
You're giving people too much credit here, man
what's that?
Nathan Mum (54:14):
so let's talk about this.
Mike Gorday (54:16):
Where did you get that, the whole thing about
micro-expressions yeah, I wasgoing into this.
Nathan Mum (54:22):
I did a lot of research in this, okay, so
micro-expressions, yeah.
So we talked about litamy.
Mike Gorday (54:28):
We've talked about this many times, but
micro-expressions happen so fastthat most people don't even see
them.
So, people don't really observemicro-expressions.
Speaker 5 (54:36):
They can get an idea that something happened.
Mike Gorday (54:37):
I think good leaders do yeah, I don't think
so.
Marc Gregoire (54:39):
Well, we haven't had a good leader.
Well, Mike, you mean they don'tobserve it in general, or they
don't observe it consciously,but unconsciously it's taken in.
Mike Gorday (54:49):
It's consciously.
They might have seen it andthey might get something in
their, in their head that says,oh, something's wrong here, but
they don't actually observe themall right well, so let's talk
about this.
Nathan Mum (55:00):
When individuals follow leaders, they normally
lead by emotion and hope,confidence, security and
inspiration that's why I followyou oh all right no algorithm
mark, here you're showing yourthat's right
you can't evoke these genuineemotions right.
They can only mimic them.
So if I'm going into a meetingand there's an AI boss there
that is expressing how I'm doingand talking with me, I have no
(55:23):
interest.
I will become a curmudgeon, Iwill be Mr Gourdet and I will
get up and walk out if I have tointeract with an AI boss,
because I would expect someempathy.
I would expect some empathy, Iwould expect some engagement.
I would expect to have theability to have a conversation
and be able to read the room onwhat's going on in the room
itself.
Mike Gorday (55:45):
This whole day has been sort of a rant, but I'm
completely on your side there.
Nathan Mum (55:52):
You're on my side.
I'm a little disappointed.
Marc Gregoire (55:55):
Why is that?
I wouldn't mind using this formy team, your current team,
because then I could just be athome in the backyard in a
jacuzzi having a drink, and he'djust be like, okay, mark.
Mike Gorday (56:05):
Can't you?
Okay, just thinking about that.
Doesn't that sound like thegreatest insult to the people
you work with?
Marc Gregoire (56:12):
Oh it does.
I mean insult to the people youwork with, oh yeah I mean like
be like hey, you know I createda.
Mike Gorday (56:16):
I created a, an ai bot for, for you to interact
with, so you don't have to talkto me because I am so much
better than you.
Nathan Mum (56:22):
I am so awesome, I am so much better than you that
all you peons I have no interestto talk.
Mike Gorday (56:27):
You know this, this , this happened to this uh
youtube guy that, uh, not toolong ago, was was big into this
AI stuff and he created these AIbots that did exactly this.
They cloned his voice.
He had an avatar that lookedkind of like him and it just
blew him out of the water.
It just destroyed his YouTubecareer.
Nathan Mum (56:47):
But there's no algorithm that can do genuine
emotions.
Marc Gregoire (56:50):
So at the end of this, no there isn't.
Nathan Mum (56:52):
I will.
If Odie's looking at me sadabout something and I'm talking
oh, she just flipped me off andso she does.
She does something like that ina nice joking way.
Uh, we understand that we'reconnecting and we're like
relating.
If I'm an ai bot.
Mike Gorday (57:04):
Yeah, all of a sudden, I see it right now those
are called macro expressions.
Yeah, I see those.
Nathan Mum (57:08):
I see those, but but all of a sudden, if I'm an ai
bot, I'd be be like hi Odie, howare you doing?
Oh, I see that you moved afinger, are you okay?
Do we need to talk?
Ody (57:18):
Yeah, that's my thumbs up.
That's your thumbs up, okay,but you know what triggers me.
Nathan Mum (57:24):
What's that?
Ody (57:24):
Zoom meetings already exist .
Yeah, they can't even bebothered to just be present via
wherever they are.
Nathan Mum (57:32):
And you can turn the video off.
So you got your picture.
You got your picture, so Icould be doing two other things.
You just have to respond.
Do you know how many meetings Ido sometimes with that?
Mike Gorday (57:38):
That is exactly why I'm so upset about this is
because it is one of the mostlaziest effing things I've ever
heard.
Nathan Mum (57:44):
It's more lazy than what's currently available and
it's insulting, it is moreinsulting than saying hey, ever
trust an AI bot, I know, it's acommon expression.
Ody (57:57):
This could have all been an email.
Nathan Mum (57:58):
That's right.
You know what?
Excuse me everybody.
Marc Gregoire (58:00):
At the end of this nugget, you're going to let
us know how to get one of these.
Nathan Mum (58:03):
Well, hang on.
Excuse me, I need to ask myAlexa to play my 70s country
music to calm me down.
Marc Gregoire (58:09):
Alexa play me calming mean 70s country music
there you go all right and nowyou are no longer my, my leader
and hero what's that you don'tlike?
Nathan Mum (58:17):
70s country music?
No, sir, what?
Oh okay, let's now.
Let's get an ai bot to changeyour mind let's move to our pick
of the day whiskey tasting andnow our pick of the day for our
whiskey tastings.
Marc Gregoire (58:34):
Let's see what bubbles to the top we are
drinking elijah craig toastedrye from heaven hill 94 proof,
55 msrp and easily easy to findthumbs up man all the way.
Nathan Mum (58:50):
I know it's going to be more critical big surprise
to anybody.
Marc Gregoire (58:53):
This is so good, maybe you should have your AI
bot talk about how valid it is.
That's a very 60s psychedelicanswer not 70s country, okay,
well, you know what?
Nathan Mum (59:02):
I have a bachelor party I have to go to this
evening and we just may have toscope one of these bottles here.
This would make it all mucheasier.
Okay, All right.
Mike Gorday (59:10):
What do you think?
Oh, I give it a thumbs up.
I like the taste.
It's got a really good finish.
It's a little bit too much onthe side of sweet, but it's just
enough to still warrant thatthumbs up.
And Mark, what do you think?
Marc Gregoire (59:27):
I enjoy this one.
It's not top shelf, but it's agreat one to have on your shelf.
You can put it like I said it'sinexpensive enough.
You can throw it in a cocktailfor somebody Somebody like you
coming over.
I'd serve you this versussomething else high up, but I
still enjoy drinking it.
Nathan Mum (59:39):
It's still delicious , all right.
Well, all of you guys, it's anhonor to be your host on today's
show.
Remember, the science oftomorrow starts with the
technology of today.
We'll see you guys next weekLater.
Bye-bye.
Week Later, bye-bye.
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Welcome everyone.
Let's start today's show.
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Now on today's show.
Now on today's show.
Nathan Mum (01:50):
All right.
Today on Tech Time Radio, we'rediving into some intriguing
topics that are making waves inthe tech world.
From a fake banking app that'sscamming unsuspected users, to
CEOs like Otter AI's Sam Langeembracing ai avatars for office
tasks there's plenty to discuss.
We also touch on a judge'sruling regarding google's
advertising practices.
(02:11):
It said that they are unfair.
Does that surprise you?
Google's advertising practicesare unfair.
Mike Gorday (02:17):
No, let's let's, let's take, let's take them and
break them up, okay, well, we'redoing that, like we're doing to
uh meta, so we're doing it toevery.
Nathan Mum (02:25):
The only company getting unescaped from this is
microsoft, it seems.
And guess what?
We're unveiling our own techtime radio created holiday.
That's right.
Today we are gonna.
You know, amazon creates allthese holiday sales to sell, we
all know how much you hate that.
I hate them.
So now we are doing one that'scalled Amazon Prime Squared
(02:48):
Obtuse.
This is our own holiday.
You get an Amazon Prime andthen you get Squared and Obtuse.
I kept on going on with math.
Mike Gorday (02:54):
I actually had a bunch that should have been done
last week, when we had thatSucks Day, that Sucks Day.
Nathan Mum (02:59):
Yeah Well, this is going to be wild because we have
so many stories that are goingon in the news with Amazon right
now that, as we were goingthrough our show prep, we had to
actually just create this wholesegment and this whole fake
holiday to go through what'sgoing on in Amazon's world.
Okay, in addition, of course,we have our standard features,
including Mike's mesmerizingmoment, the technology fail of
(03:20):
the week and a Nathan nuggetit's going to be more of a rant,
but it's a Nathan rant and, ofcourse, our pick of the day,
whiskey Taste, and to see if ourselected whiskey pick gets zero
, one or two thumbs up at theend of the show.
Now, I was going back andlooking at my whiskey picks Per
year I only averaged threethumbs down, so I'm going to be
a little bit more judgmental.
That's what I average.
Mike Gorday (03:41):
Is this like a New Year's resolution that you
forgot to do on New Year's?
Nathan Mum (03:45):
Well, because it's our holiday Amazon Prime Squared
Obtuse Holiday I decided to doa bunch of holiday research, so
I have now gone back and taken alook at my whiskey, because
it's every.
Mike Gorday (03:56):
Amazon Prime Squared Obtuse, so you're going
to just change your palate justlike blip.
Nathan Mum (03:59):
It's going to be, that's right.
Okay, because it's a specialholiday, so it's going to be
very critical today, well let's,let's, let's, but it's got a
cork top, so I might be already.
Mike Gorday (04:07):
Yeah, let's watch that in action shall we?
Nathan Mum (04:09):
Okay, all right.
Well, now, everybody, it's timefor the latest headlines in the
world of technology.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Here are our top technology stories of the week.
Nathan Mum (04:20):
All right.
Welcome to the new era ofleadership by an algorithm,
where you trust a dedicated AIin the cloud.
In an article that was justpublished a few days back in
Bloomberg, titled, meaningswon't be the same when the boss
sends an AI bot.
There's a whole bunch ofresearch that is being done on
what C-level and high-levelmanagers are doing so they don't
(04:44):
have to attend meetings.
Let's go to Lisa Walker.
More on the story.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Otterai is training an AI-powered avatar on what the
founder Liang has said inthousands of meetings and
written in documents since heco-founded the company nearly a
decade ago.
Complete with a voicesynthesized to sound like him,
it is built to handle about 90%of the issues that arise in most
business meetings.
(05:11):
Liang said it has my knowledgeso it knows how.
I think it can infer how Iwould respond to a new question
based on all the pastinteractions.
When the avatar gets stumpedwith, say, a hiring decision, it
can ping me in real time for areply.
The bot can be tailored toadopt the mannerisms of the
(05:31):
bosses they mirror, like howoften they pause while speaking
or how frequently they interruptothers.
Back to you guys in the studio.
Mike Gorday (05:41):
Are you serious?
Nathan Mum (05:43):
I'm not only serious .
This is a leader in ai and hehas a whole bunch of people that
he has this ai about going tomeetings for now oh yeah, yeah,
I get that.
Mike Gorday (05:52):
I, you know we.
We talk about how everybodywants ai to to replace all these
jobs and these these dudes inpower like, yeah, let's just let
it run our meetings for us so.
Nathan Mum (06:03):
So not not only does it do so, it has voice cloning.
It's got an avatar that theyactually have, an animated
avatar that will smile.
It'll be like a picture of the,the ceo.
Mike Gorday (06:14):
I've seen this.
I've seen this in in the gamingworld so this is exactly it.
Nathan Mum (06:19):
So instead of going to meetings, he sends his ai bot
, the owner uh, now, of course,he's an owner of an ai company,
so he's going to be uh, otter ai, which is a transcript tool
that we use for tech time radioon our meeting notes, and you
get little notes when you're atthe meeting I've used otter ai.
Okay, so it creates a real-timetranscript and then it
(06:40):
summarizes, as it's capturingwhat's going on, and it will
make decisions.
The bot actually says that's agreat idea or that's not a good
idea, or let me get back to youon that I, I really, I really
want this to backfire.
Mike Gorday (06:51):
Do you really want this?
Yeah, because this is one ofthe laziest, effing things I've
ever heard of.
I, I, this is just crazy.
If you don't have enough timeto meet with your staff and you
want to even, even all the damnmeetings that you have to go
through on on a regular day isridiculous in the first place.
Nathan Mum (07:07):
Okay, if you have to send an ai bot, but yeah,
having an ai bot stand in andthat's that's.
Mike Gorday (07:12):
That's one of the.
You know, if he's going to letit make decisions for him, maybe
he doesn't need to be there atall, you know I I.
Nathan Mum (07:22):
I worked at a company in Seattle that was
owned by the co-founder ofMicrosoft, paul Allen.
He's passed away since thistime, but I worked for him and
there was a lot of times where Ihad a large group that was
reporting to me over a hundredplus people, including
contractors in different areasand so if I couldn't attend a
(07:42):
meeting, you know what wouldhappen I would still have those
meetings and then I would sendan administrative assistant in
to take meeting notes and thenthey could ask me what was going
on.
But they still had the dialoguebetween the people themselves.
Knowing that I'm not there, andI felt guilty when I did that.
I would feel guilty of notattending the meeting.
Mike Gorday (07:58):
Clearly, this guy doesn't feel guilty about it.
So now you're saying I boughtthis is completely lazy, this is
just what.
What benefits do you get fromthis?
I I don't know why you would dothis at all.
I don't know, but he says it.
Nathan Mum (08:15):
Thanks for him he understood, understands how he
thinks it.
Mike Gorday (08:16):
So if he needs to make a decision, it can
basically run the company forhim, so um, so why does he?
Doesn't need to be there, sofire his.
But yeah, keep the ai, you,don't you?
You immediately get to save alot of money because you don't
pay, so why does he have to bethere?
He doesn't need to be there, sofire his butt.
Yeah, keep the AI youimmediately get to save a lot of
money because you don't pay the.
Nathan Mum (08:30):
AI.
So are we going to go to thatnow?
Or a company's now having an AIengine that's running the whole
?
Mike Gorday (08:34):
company.
If I went into a meeting and myboss was a cloned AI, I would
walk out of that place.
Nathan Mum (08:42):
Yeah, I think in this, none of my meetings that I
have would have that, but Idon't know.
That's the most unpersonal.
Mike Gorday (08:49):
Or what, or I would do everything I could to make
that AI say things that werejust utterly ridiculous.
Nathan Mum (08:56):
Or give you a raise, or do this or do that, just
keep on asking.
Let's see how much we canmanipulate the large language
model to get it to do stuff.
You know, if you have to have abot go to your meetings, then
those meetings shouldn't beprobably scheduled.
And if you can't send anassistant or somebody else to
take notes for you on meetings,then don't have those meetings.
But as soon as we start havingAI bots going to meetings, then
(09:20):
you know what.
We might as well just move toTerminator 2 day, because it
should just be here right up the.
I mean, that's where we're atif you're gonna have your
company's highest rankingofficer.
Mike Gorday (09:29):
Yeah, they're gonna turn it into ed 209.
Who's gonna walk in and likemow down everybody?
Nathan Mum (09:35):
yep, all right.
Well, I hope story number twocan, can can get us out of the
ai rut.
What do we have here for uh?
Mike Gorday (09:42):
story number two well, hey, you know we're gonna
go.
We're gonna go back to the, toreal, the real genius of
scamming people without the useof ai.
We're gonna talk about realpeople scamming real people.
Oh wow, that sounds excitingthat's good, the real people
yeah people are being scammed bya fake banking app that makes
(10:03):
you lose faith in humanity.
Oh no, the app mimicslegitimate mobile banking
platforms and allows fraudstersto fake bank transfers in person
, show the seller a successfulpayment message and then walk
away, leaving sellers thousandsof dollars out of pocket.
Okay, dr Tim Day lead indoorstep crime and scams for
(10:24):
Chartered Trading StandardsInstitute described the apps as
an emerging threat.
Okay, uh, dr tim day lead leadin doorstep crime and scams for
chartered trading standardsinstitute described the apps as
an emerging threat.
He added the in-person natureof the scam is unusual.
So, apparently, what happens?
Nathan Mum (10:34):
as if you're selling something like you sell
facebook marketplace stuff right, yeah, facebook, marketplace,
ebay, different places, but I doin person some stuff all right,
so a couple pinballs for sale.
Mike Gorday (10:47):
Yeah, you you advertise something on online
hey, come buy my.
What did you say?
It was pinball.
I got two.
Come, come buy my pinballmachine, yeah.
So these guys, these guys showup with their mobile phone in
the app in hand.
They take some information fromyou, yeah, and then they show
it to you and the app mimicsyour banking app and it
(11:10):
basically says that you're,you've been paid okay, and then
he gets to walk away with youritems, items okay, and you never
get money oh, no really yep, onthe screen is on the screen.
It has an advert.
So for for the example here andthere.
Nathan Mum (11:27):
So realistic, yep.
I downloaded this on my androidphone yeah, oh.
Mike Gorday (11:32):
So this, this, this person that is in this article,
yeah, uh, was selling more thana thousand dollars worth of
power tools on the social mediaplatform when he received a
message from a profile namedliam wright.
Okay, when mr wright said hewas interested in viewing him,
mr rudd invented him to come tohis workshop.
After he arrived, he checkedover the tools, offered a bank
(11:54):
transfer and opened whatappeared to be the banking app.
He handed his phone over to himand he typed in his account
details and it collects that ina text file in the app itself.
Nathan Mum (12:07):
Yep, so when you type that in there, it actually
collects that it collects yourbanking app or banking details.
Mike Gorday (12:16):
He said it looked absolutely genuine.
While Mr Wood was waiting forthe money to appear in his bank
account, he turned his back topick up accessories to hand over
as part of the sale.
The scammer used thisopportunity to leave with all
the tools, but the money neverarrived in his account.
Wow.
Nathan Mum (12:35):
So let me tell you about this app, because I
actually downloaded it onAndroid I kind of feel like you
would have done something, so Idid play with it.
So when you go on in to simulatewhat you're doing, it's got
like Bank of America, wellsFargo, chase Bank.
It's got all the bank names.
And so you ask the user so ifI'm buying with fake money from
you, mr Gorday, and I come inand I say, hey, I want to buy
(12:55):
that great Star Wars actionfigure that you have, blah, blah
, blah, blah, blah, I'm going tohave to pay you through my bank
account.
What's your bank?
And what's the first thingyou're going to say Well, I
probably use like Chase Bank orsomething.
What's the bank that you use?
Just give me an example BECU.
Okay, becu.
It actually comes on up too.
So, okay, great, becu, can youplease, because I want to send
(13:21):
you an instant transfer from mybank so you can make sure you
get paid?
It has the BECU login.
It's got the BECU information.
Everything that you arefamiliar with with BECU is in
the app itself.
You type in your accountinformation.
Then I go back and I grab thephone and say, okay, how much do
we need to put in there?
All right, can I even have youdo that?
Can you put in how much is inthere, because my bank account's
(13:41):
already connected to it and itsays successfully transferred id
number uh, money wire to betaking care of.
Mike Gorday (13:49):
This is classic conning.
Nathan Mum (13:50):
This is just classic conning, right here so when I
loaded this app, I thought maybethis would be the only app.
There was three othercompetitors and some of these
wanted me to charge all the wayup to ten dollars, nine dollars
and 95 cents to download thisapp.
That guarantees it updateswithin 24 hours of any new
screenshots that would come fromthe bank.
(14:11):
So the other ones are a littlebit dated, but it and it
literally looks.
It is so amazing, it looks solegit that I am sure most people
would fall for this and thisarticle has got like four people
that all fell for it.
Yeah well, the point, the point, the point, and this article
has got like four people thatall fell for it.
Mike Gorday (14:25):
Yeah, well, the point, the point, the point of
this is that there's actuallypeople that are going to these
folks's house, or whateverbusiness they are showing their
face to this person and talkingthem through this.
So this is a, this is this isthis is a pre-internet scam.
Almost Okay, Because you knowthat's how con artists work in
(14:48):
the past, right Back in the dayyep, so yeah, this is good.
So I mean, the good thing isthat if they ever catch this guy
, at least he'll be able to beidentified.
Nathan Mum (14:59):
But what happens when you go to the police
department and tell them thatyou were just scammed?
What does the police departmentsay to you I don't know, I'm
not a cop.
Okay, so the police departmentand most Did you call the cops.
Mike Gorday (15:10):
No, no, but most of the time.
Nathan Mum (15:11):
I had a person break into my car in downtown Seattle
.
Mike Gorday (15:14):
Yeah, a while ago, and you know what I got broken
into when I first moved here.
Nathan Mum (15:19):
Okay, the police will give you a record, they'll
give you an ID of informationand they'll say if we find
anything, we will contact you.
That's true, and so nothingreally happens.
Mike Gorday (15:31):
That's true, except they caught my guy.
They caught your guy.
It was actually not a guy, itwas actually a woman, okay, who
broke into my place looking fordrugs, stole all the computers
and all this other stuff, andthey identified one of the
computers that was stolen.
Nathan Mum (15:48):
Did she try to hawk it at some type of oh?
Mike Gorday (15:50):
yeah, they found her in her car.
Her car was full of stolenitems and they were trying to
pawn them and it was a so do wego to vigilante?
Nathan Mum (15:59):
I mean, the only thing I can think of is, like
Marvel superhero stuff.
I mean.
Ody (16:02):
Another frustrating thing about that is if you are scammed
online through like a bankingthing, they tell you to make a
police report to have record ofit, and then the police send you
to like an FBI website theyused to they used to, but now
they no longer have staffing forthe FBI because it was a
technology deal.
Nathan Mum (16:21):
So now what you do is you get.
So I had somebody that just gotscammed some money and then
you'd used to go and fill out anFBI report, which you still do
and then you go to contact themand it says that we don't have
enough service individuals.
If this is an emergency, pleasecontact us.
Or if it's over a milliondollars that has been lost, then
please contact us.
So if you're a small person nownow you're just kind of out
(16:42):
there going.
Mike Gorday (16:50):
This is taking advantage of people face-to-face
because you know you want totrust people.
Marc Gregoire (16:55):
Yeah.
Mike Gorday (16:56):
Our nature is to want to trust people.
Our nature is to want tocollaborate, and work.
Nathan Mum (17:03):
You figure, if someone is coming to your place,
that they're going to besomewhat legit.
Mike Gorday (17:09):
Right work is the con artist or the person that is
doing the scam.
Uh, engenders himself to you,based on on human nature.
So we want personality we wantthat, we want that connection,
we want that, that trust.
So they engender that, theythey build rapport and then they
they allow you to do.
(17:29):
And if, if someone came to yourhouse and said here, okay, okay
, we can do it on my phone, youwould be more likely to say yes
to that than if they did anonline transaction.
That's correct.
Hey, I'll just send you a link.
So, yeah, you got to be reallyon your ball when you're dealing
(17:49):
with this stuff, when you'redealing with this stuff and it's
always interesting to me abouthow going back to old ways works
better now than it did in theold days.
All right, okay, that's all Ihave to say about that.
Nathan Mum (18:04):
So the app is on the store and it's been reported
and guess what?
Nobody's doing anything reallyabout it, so it's just going to
sit there on the app store forpeople to download and then,
hopefully, banks then changetheir front end transfer
information so it doesn't lookthe same.
Mike Gorday (18:18):
Well, I'm guessing this is what you're going to ask
me later, so we can see.
Nathan Mum (18:22):
Yeah, I guess I do have a question out there.
All right Story.
Number three Google has illegaladvertising monopoly Judge
rules.
The US judge has determinedthat Google, the tech giant,
holds a monopoly on onlineadvertising.
Us judges determined thatGoogle, the tech giant, holds a
monopoly on online advertising.
The US Department of Justice,together with 17 states, filed a
lawsuit against Google,claiming it illegally dominates
the technology that dictates theplacement of online ads.
(18:43):
Now the US District JudgeBirken Birken Birkema.
Mike Gorday (18:49):
Is that Birkema, birkema?
No, that's Brinkema, brinkema,brinkema.
Nathan Mum (18:54):
Brin, is that birkenau?
Mike Gorday (18:54):
birkenau.
No, that's a brinkima brink.
Nathan Mum (18:55):
It brink brink brinkima okay, all right,
whatever decided declared thatgoogle had willfully engaged
thank you.
Anti-competitive acts allowingit to acquire and maintain
monopoly power in the market.
This marks the second antitrustcase google has lost within a
year following a rule thatestablishes monopoly and online
(19:15):
search.
So Google's in charge of search.
They're getting broken up forsearch.
Now they're getting broken upfor their advertising because
they're kind of the leader ofadvertising that places you in
the search algorithm that theyown.
So now Google is going to havelike 27 AT&T breakup.
What is it?
(19:36):
Was it Bell?
Was it Bell Institutes?
Mike Gorday (19:39):
Who is the big phone.
Nathan Mum (19:40):
Bell Telephone System.
Mike Gorday (19:40):
Bell Telephone System.
That was man.
That's like that was a longtime ago, that's way back in the
Well, I'm just saying Is it the80s, but it was like one
telephone company that was atelephone.
Nathan Mum (19:58):
No, I think it was 70s A telephone company that was
running it.
So Google's legal team contendsthat the case is overly
centered on its past actions,while overlooking other major
advertising technology providerslike Amazon.
We're so excited to becelebrating our Amazon Prime
Squared Obtuse Holiday, so wedon't want to be picking on
Amazon at all until at leastnext segment.
Okay, all right.
That wraps up our technologystories of the week.
Next we're going to dive intoour special segment that we have
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Nathan Mum (21:16):
All right, welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan
Mumm.
Our weekly show covers the toptechnology subjects without any
political agenda.
We verify the facts and we doit with a sense of humor, in
less than 60 minutes and, ofcourse, with a little whiskey on
the side.
Today, mark Gregoire, ourwhiskey connoisseur, is in
studio.
Marc Gregoire (21:30):
What have you chosen today.
Today we are drinking ElijahCraig toasted rye, so from
Elijah Craig's website.
In this expression, we imbueour award-winning straight rye
whiskey with even more flavorOnce fully matured.
We finish toasted rye in asecond custom toasted new oak
barrel, adding a balanced layerof sweet oak and complexity.
(21:52):
Now this is from Heaven Hill,which is one of your favorite
companies.
This is so good.
Nathan Mum (21:58):
How can I be?
Critical this is so good.
Let's talk about that criticalpalate you got going on oh man,
this is fantastic Well criticaljust means you're very
particular.
Marc Gregoire (22:07):
You can still love things on a critical palate
.
Nathan Mum (22:09):
Oh, this is like butter.
Mike Gorday (22:11):
This is so, so, so, so what he just said, is that
you have to say thumbs downanyway.
Marc Gregoire (22:16):
Okay, no, no, no this is from Elijah Craig's
Distillery in Bardstown,kentucky.
It's a straight rye.
It's non-age stated, it's 94proof, it's barely a rye.
So it's 51% rye, 35% corn, 14%malted barley.
It is $55.
Dollars, man.
Nathan Mum (22:35):
this is so so so good yeah it's very sweet do you
like it, mike?
I don't want to give it thumbsup, I do it's, it's, it's sweet.
Mike Gorday (22:43):
Um, it's definitely .
You said how much on the corn Ican definitely five percent
corn so that that's.
That's where that sweetnesscomes.
Nathan Mum (22:51):
Absolutely, yeah, look at you, at you, conor
Seward.
All right, is this from yourpersonal collection?
Marc Gregoire (22:58):
This is my bottle .
Nathan Mum (22:59):
Oh, you purchased this.
Marc Gregoire (23:01):
I purchased it Okay.
Nathan Mum (23:02):
It's not very expensive.
No, it's not, it's $55.
Marc Gregoire (23:04):
I'm going to start paying.
Mike Gorday (23:06):
I got it on sale.
I got it for $50.
Nathan Mum (23:09):
Yeah, for $50.
Mike Gorday (23:10):
It's got everything that Nathan gives a thumbs up
on.
Nathan Mum (23:15):
I know it's under $50.
It's got a cork top.
Marc Gregoire (23:17):
Oh, not just a cork, nice wood, it's a wooden
cork top with a popping sound.
Nathan Mum (23:25):
It gives you that nice cork squeak.
Marc Gregoire (23:28):
Alright.
Well, don't forget to like andsubscribe to the show.
It means a lot to us.
Drink responsibly, especiallyon this liquor Heaven can wait.
Nathan Mum (23:35):
There you go All right With our whiskey tasting
completed.
Today we're doing our ownholiday.
This is Amazon holiday knockoff.
We're calling it Amazon PrimeSquare Obtuse.
Let's start this segment now.
Speaker 9 (23:53):
Welcome to the Tech Time.
Fictional holiday amazon primesquared obtuse.
What do these crazy guys havein store today?
Marc Gregoire (24:02):
all right, so that's what we got.
So so why you need, why no plusin it?
Oh well, because that, becauseyou know where's the plus hang
on, hang on.
Nathan Mum (24:10):
amazon has not just one holiday, but they have many
holidays throughout the year.
So let me just tell you thatthe voice and that music is not
going to be the first time youhear it this year.
There will probably be two orthree other fake Okay.
You know, it's just holidaysthat we now create for tech time
holidays.
Mike Gorday (24:28):
This is the Amazon related one.
You don't have any idea of howto build suspense, do you?
Why is that?
Nathan Mum (24:34):
Well, just wait until.
Well, you know what we couldhave like a Google day?
We could have an alphabet day.
We could have the Muppets.
The Muppets come on out and sayone of the count counting.
Mike Gorday (24:43):
Mark's point we've talked about this before.
You should add plus to the endof everything.
Nathan Mum (24:47):
You should have plus , yes, and you should than them
and be plus, plus, plus, plus,plus, plus, plus.
All right, okay, I got storynumber one.
Mike Gorday (25:01):
uh, I got story number two, and then you know
what, mike, I'm gonna give youthe last two stories you can't
pronounce the words no, no, no,all right.
Nathan Mum (25:05):
Story number one.
These are all related to amazon, so in our pre-show we were
doing what we wanted to talkabout today, and there was so
much that's going on in theamazon world that that's why we
created this fake holiday.
We have a live action PacificRim TV series in development at
Amazon, according to a varietyof news, for the project was
first shared in 2024.
But now they've reported gottenthe arrival.
(25:29):
Screenwriter Eric has here wasattached to develop and write
the show.
The new series will apparentlybe a prequel to the original
Pacific Rim, a movie aboutfighting giant mechs and the
humans that pilot them.
What do you think?
Mike Gorday (25:42):
about this, what I think about this is that every
time Amazon purchases somethingthat I like, they turn it into
meat paste.
What, yeah, come on Rings ofPower is pretty good.
Nathan Mum (25:51):
No, what, no?
Oh, I think Mark on rings ofpower is pretty good, no, what
no?
Marc Gregoire (25:57):
oh, I think, mark , would you disagree with me
here.
Nathan Mum (25:58):
Do you like rings of power?
I like rings of power.
Mike Gorday (25:59):
Okay, all right, so see, okay, there you go, I
think they have, they have, theyhave taken, they have taken the
narrative out of tolkien's arcsyeah and that's what they do.
That's why I don't like ringsof power.
They did they.
They've done a lot of it withother things like uh, the wheel
of time series is a complete isa complete horrible.
Nathan Mum (26:19):
We tried watching that.
It's nothing like the books no,it well it is.
Mike Gorday (26:23):
It is kind of no, the main character, that the
main the main characters are thesame, the stories are related,
but they've changed everythingaround so that it's just.
It just sucks, all right, okay,well now, you know I'm not.
Marc Gregoire (26:39):
Are you taking on the critical role now?
Mike Gorday (26:41):
I I you know I always bitch about this stuff
but you like pacific rim, I'mnot.
I'm not a huge pacific rim fan,but I can't wait to see how
they screw this there you go.
Okay, all right, can't wait.
Nathan Mum (26:50):
Well, you know what, speaking of uh movies, we're
going right on the next idealet's let's get more of these in
the road to see how they screwthis up.
There you go.
Okay, all right, can't wait.
Well, you know what?
Speaking of movies, we're goingright on to the next idea let's
get more of these in the road,robotaxis, right.
So we have Waymo.
We got everybody out there, butnow we have Zoox.
Z-o-o-x, the autonomous drivingtechnology company owned by
Amazon, is preparing to begintesting its vehicles of all
(27:13):
places Los Angeles this summer.
What a place to put them in?
Why don't you just pick theworst place with traffic, throw
them on the freeways and we'llsee how well they do that's
actually probably a good placeto put them, because they're not
going to move more than fivefeet.
Mike Gorday (27:29):
There you go.
Nathan Mum (27:31):
Founded in 2014 and acquired by Amazon in 2020.
Zoox is one of the severalefforts to bring self-driving
technology into the mainstream.
Now Tesla chief executive ElonMusk isn't happy about this.
He's been touting the potentialof autonomous driving vehicles
for you and Waymo, owned byGoogle parent company Alphabet,
is already operating driverlesstaxis in multiple cities,
(27:53):
including Los Angeles, sanFrancisco and Phoenix.
Now Zeke's testing in LosAngeles will lay the groundwork
for future commercial services.
The company spokesman said thecompany plans to welcome its
first public riders in Las Vegasand San Francisco by the end of
the year.
Marc Gregoire (28:09):
Get on board, boys.
This is the wave of the future.
It's going to be RoboTaxis.
It's going to be a little roughat first, but this is the way
it's going to go.
Mike Gorday (28:15):
I only want Johnny Cab.
Nathan Mum (28:17):
You only want Johnny Cab.
Mike Gorday (28:18):
That's what I want.
I want Johnny Cab.
Nathan Mum (28:20):
Johnny Cab, from what was that?
Total Recall, total Recall Okay.
Mike Gorday (28:26):
But I think this is one of these things that really
is not good for our future,because you have all these
companies competing in this onemarket.
Nathan Mum (28:36):
It's like with with virtual reality reality you know
where Apple kind of came lateand really it's now meta that
owns it still.
Mike Gorday (28:43):
Yeah so.
So one doesn't work like theother, and I don't know
Microsoft stopped doing it.
Nathan Mum (28:49):
Okay, well, all right.
Well news, breaking news.
You know we got a big flashgoing across the top of the
internet reader bar right nowfor our holiday Buy.
Now this is a lightning plussale.
So you decided to put thelightning plus sale.
You got our next article.
Story number three.
Mike Gorday (29:06):
You're not going to talk about how they, how they
grabbed Highlander rights andthey're going to make me talk
about that.
Nathan Mum (29:11):
Yeah, that's your story, you got that one.
You talk rights and they'regoing to make me talk about that
.
Yeah, that's your story.
You got that one.
You talk about that.
No, I'm supposed to talk about,okay, all right, amazon.
Amazon has landed the highlinerrights and henry cavill is the
star.
Mike Gorday (29:22):
As they say, in the highlander franchise, there can
only be one there can only no,no, there could be only one,
that can only be one.
Nathan Mum (29:29):
There can be only one.
So okay, and in the case of thelatest reimagines new home
studio, Amazon's MGM studios andUnited artists have combined.
Sources tell deadline thatAmazon's MGM studios have secure
the rights to remake a newvision of Highlander A new meat
paste version.
Are you excited about that?
Mike Gorday (29:47):
No.
Nathan Mum (29:48):
I mean Amazon.
Let me just tell you thisthey're buying up every
intellectual property they can.
Ody (29:52):
Yeah.
Mike Gorday (29:59):
They're other than disney and marvel.
That has that point.
At some point they're gonna ownthe market.
I expect that they're gonna getjudged, you're gonna be uh,
they're gonna, yeah, they'regonna be declared a monopoly and
they're gonna have to go infront probably but you know, we
got all right, you got storynumber four.
Nathan Mum (30:11):
And and then we still have another one coming on
up for our amazon, yeah wellamazon again is taking us one
step closer to the reality ofwhat's that?
Mike Gorday (30:21):
what's that movie that I love?
It's a disney movie.
Disney movie tron with therobot tron wally, little more
wally.
Nathan Mum (30:29):
Yes, we're one more.
Mike Gorday (30:31):
We're one step closer to the the reality of
wally.
Oh, amazon's inaugural,inaugural launch of project
what's?
How do you pronounce it?
Is it coupler, copper, cuper,copper, kuiper, kuiper project,
kuiper internet satellites,kuiper won the launch of ula
atlas v551 rocket carrying thefirst production satellites for
(30:54):
amazon's project kuiper is nowplanned for April 28th, I think
that's interesting.
Nathan Mum (30:58):
That's like Mel Kuiper's draft board thing.
Mike Gorday (31:00):
I think that this is interesting, that they call
it Project Kuiper, becauseKuiper is this big, huge
asteroid belt that existsoutside of our little planetary
system here, oh okay.
No, it's between us and Jupiter, I think.
Oh, but it's this big asteroidbuilt Okay With Project Kuiper.
One of Amazon's goal is to takeon SpaceX's Starlink internet
(31:23):
service, which started in 2019and now provides broadband
connectivity to individuals andbusinesses via a growing
constellation of smallsatellites.
Nathan Mum (31:32):
Yeah, man, that's getting tough.
How are you going?
Mike Gorday (31:35):
to get through space soon.
Soon you're going to have toshoot a shuttle up there.
We're one step closer.
Nathan Mum (31:37):
There'll be this intersection between the
satellites.
You can then proceed on.
Otherwise you're going to hitall these.
Marc Gregoire (31:42):
But it's interesting that Amazon is going
in LA against Musk and nowthey're going into space against
Musk.
Mike Gorday (31:48):
It's a big Bezos Musk kind of right now it's a
huge billionaire pissing contestis what it is Okay.
Marc Gregoire (31:55):
I'll have to agree with you, Mike.
Mike Gorday (31:58):
For subsequent Amazon's April 28 mission will
deploy 27 Project Kuipersatellites to orbit the maximum
number of Kuiper satellites thatULA's Atlas V rocket can carry
in a single deployment.
For subsequent missions, Amazonwill also use ULA's Atlas V
rocket can carry in a singledeployment.
Okay, For subsequent missions,Amazon will also use ULA's newer
(32:18):
Vulcan rocket, which can carryas many as 45 Kuiper satellites
in one flight, as well as theNew Glenn, a new lift-heavy
rocket operated by Blue Origin.
Did you hear?
Nathan Mum (32:29):
about the Blue Origin stuff with bases opening
up the hatch, and it was alreadypre-opened.
Did you see any of?
Mike Gorday (32:34):
that stuff?
No, I didn't see that.
Oh, it was pretty funny, didthey call?
Nathan Mum (32:37):
it A1 sauce?
No, they did not call it A1sauce, though.
Mike Gorday (32:40):
Amazon is planning to build a constellation of
around 3,200 Project Kuipersatellites by 2029.
This will be enough to offerglobal broadband coverage,
giving it a chance to competewith SpaceX Starlink service and
completely clutter up theheavens that we enjoy.
Nathan Mum (32:58):
Yeah, you'll be thinking those are stars and
those would be satellites.
I'll be all moving all overeverywhere.
Just think, if you look at theconstellations it'll be like oh,
that's my satellite forinternet.
Oh, that's my satellite for TV.
Oh, that's my satellite for All.
Right, well, that ends our techtime radio made up amazon
holiday.
What'd you guys think aboutthat was that wasn't that
exciting.
(33:18):
Amazon prime squared, obtusethat that that will probably not
be the last time that's.
Mike Gorday (33:24):
We have this holiday.
That's really exciting.
Okay, I'm really excited.
Nathan Mum (33:27):
All right, let's move on now to mike's
mesmerizing moment.
Welcome to mike's mesmerizingmoment.
What does mike have to saytoday?
All right, mike, what steps canpeople take to avoid the scam
that you talked about today inthe first segment?
Let's just kind of talk aboutthis how do we avoid?
How?
Mike Gorday (33:47):
these scams.
Well, first off is you don't.
You don't trust the tech.
Okay, don't trust technology,yeah don't don't trust the tech.
Nathan Mum (33:54):
Don't trust the tech .
Okay, don't trust technology,yeah.
Mike Gorday (33:56):
Don't, don't trust the tech, don't trust the person
that's using the tech.
Okay, and it's not to be meanto that other person, okay, but
you know, back in the day if Iwere selling a car and I had
somebody that came along and waslike, hey, can I write you a
check for the car?
Speaker 6 (34:10):
No, go, get the cash Cash in hand right.
Mike Gorday (34:14):
So don't be pressured into accepting a bank
transfer over an electronicdevice.
Marc Gregoire (34:22):
That's obviously the very basic level that you
should be.
Mike Gorday (34:30):
Don't hand over the goods until hand over the goods
.
Until now, if they venmo you,you know, if they use cash apps,
you can.
You can see this independentlyon your phone.
Yeah, within about a minute,right, so so doing that this way
is also recommendable right soif you are going to accept
(34:51):
electronic transfers, only usethose apps.
Don't allow them to use somethird party app you've never
heard of, or direct transfer ifthey.
If they tell you they can't usea cash app, too bad, or are you
gonna say they're already?
Ody (35:06):
uh paypal goods and services as well yep, in case it
does is a scam.
You can get it back okay, sothere you go so check your back.
Mike Gorday (35:16):
Check your own bank account use paypal will from
your advertising all overeverywhere on tv.
Nathan Mum (35:21):
Right now they're giving away a million.
That means they're in trouble.
Okay, all right.
What else?
Mike Gorday (35:27):
anything else um, you know, you can check to see
if the the buyer really has alike a brand new social media
account.
Okay, that's always asuspicious thing.
Nathan Mum (35:39):
I sell pinball machines and somebody had never
has an account.
They all of a sudden said thatthey wanted to pay me ten
thousand dollars if I'd box themup and ship it to them.
Never had an account, yeah, sothey were going to pay me like
almost double what the value ofthese things are, which should
have been the first deal.
Like okay, but I have to boxhim up, take pictures and then
send them to him and he'll giveme a delivery driver that he
(36:01):
knows personally that will pickhim up and drive him down to
oregon.
Mike Gorday (36:05):
Yeah, well, I think that.
I think the key to thisparticular scam, though, is the
actual face-to-face stuff.
Yeah, um, and it's a hard thingto say, just don't trust it.
Nathan Mum (36:17):
It is especially when you're talking to the
person.
Mike Gorday (36:19):
But if you're selling stuff, yeah, if you need
to have, you need to have sortof like that attitude.
You need to have that distrustof the person don't.
Nathan Mum (36:29):
Don't trust until verify, then trust that's right
on something that's exactly nottrust, and trust that's right
when you're selling somethingthat's exactly Not trust.
And verify Trust, but verifyright.
Mike Gorday (36:36):
Or verify, then trust, or whatever.
But the point is is that don'tallow somebody to use their
technology to do the transfer Ifthey can't access Venmo or Cash
App.
That's a scam.
That's the primary.
That's one of the primarythings that if you hear that I
(36:56):
can't use Venmo, well, you canhave the tools.
There you go.
That makes sense.
Nathan Mum (37:00):
All right.
Well, thank you, mike, for thatmesmerizing moment we have up
next this week in technology.
So now would be a great time toenjoy a little whiskey on the
side, as we will be doing soduring the break.
See you in a few minutes.
Hey, mike.
Yeah, what's up?
Hey, so you know what.
We need people to start likingour social media pages.
Mike Gorday (37:16):
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I think it's Patreon.
Okay, patreon, if you reallylike us, you can like us in.
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Nathan Mum (37:29):
I butcher the English language you know, you
butcher the English language, soit's Patreoncom, patreoncom.
If you really like our show,you can subscribe to patreoncom
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You know, the one thatZuckerberg owns, the one that we
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Yeah, we're on Facebook too.
Yeah, like us on Facebook.
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There's a trend here?
It seems to be that there's atrend, and that's TechTimeRadio.
Nathan Mum (37:59):
Or you can even Instagram with us, and that's at
TechTimeRadio.
That's at TechTimeRadio.
Or you can find us on TikTok,and it's TechTimeRadio.
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Mike Gorday (38:12):
Like and subscribe to our social.
Nathan Mum (38:14):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
That's that simple and now let's look back at this
week in technology all right onour way back machine.
Nathan Mum (38:24):
We're going to april 26, 1999, before y2k.
First known flash bios virus.
The first known virus to targetthe flash BIOS.
The BIOS is the aspect of whenyour computer boots up with a
hard drive.
What's inside of it?
Your processors, your memory.
The BIOS is the most importantaspect of any computer, any tool
(38:47):
, including your phone, cellphone.
So this is the most importantpart of any electronic computer
device.
Now, this first known virus totarget the flash bios of a PC
was called the CIH Chernobylvirus.
It triggered payload on the day, erasing hard drives and
disabling PCs, primarily in Asiaand Europe.
(39:07):
One of the most destructiveviruses in history.
It estimated that 60 billionPCs were affected worldwide,
causing 1 billion in damage, andthat was 95% of the PCs in Asia
and Europe.
At the time, the virus had beencreated exactly one year earlier
, on April 26, 1998, by aTaiwanese student, chin Ing Ha,
(39:29):
and set to trigger itsdestructive payload exactly one
year later.
It began to spread in the wildand was first discovered in June
of 1998, given the name CIH dueto the author's initials
discovered in the virus codeitself.
From this time forward, it'sbeen reported that a variety of
companies accidentallydistributed the virus through
their own downloads, updates andCDs.
(39:49):
So what happened is this becamesuch a low basic code that when
people were sharing files andthey were creating new stuff,
they were actually downloadingthem.
These were distributed by allthe American online CDs.
You remember getting thoseAmerican online CDs in the mail?
Mike Gorday (40:04):
Oh, yeah, yeah, I used to throw them across the
yard or hang them up like directrations.
Nathan Mum (40:08):
I mean you would get one every month.
Right, you would get at leastone every month.
Mike Gorday (40:12):
I made a fountain out of one.
Nathan Mum (40:16):
Did you really?
Yeah, okay, well, so whathappened is they were known.
This actual virus was in theAmerican online software update
that people were loading.
Fantastic, you've got mail.
Yes, you got something else.
Well, the virus triggered onthis date.
It just happened to coincidewith the date of the Chernobyl
disaster in 1986.
And therefore press begancalling it the Chernobyl virus,
even though there has never beenany evidence to show that it
(40:37):
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smile every time I hear thatmusic.
Nathan Mum (41:53):
I I love it All right.
Marc Gregoire (41:55):
What do we got going on today here?
Well, today, april 22nd, we arecelebrating School Bus Driver
Appreciation Day.
Okay, what, oh School?
Mike Gorday (42:03):
Bus Driver Is Lunch Lady Appreciation Day in there
too, what?
Nathan Mum (42:06):
Lunch Lady.
Appreciation Day, lunch Lady.
Oh okay, I remember this.
Marc Gregoire (42:08):
That's a different day that's a different
day, so tell us about this.
So School Bus Driver Dayoriginated in California and was
created to draw special publicattention to school bus drivers
in California for their enduringand exceptional contribution to
students.
It's a well-deserved tribute toall the men and women who
devote their lives to ensuringthat children go to school every
(42:29):
day, while remaining patient,helpful and upbeat throughout
the day.
Okay, did you ever ride the?
Nathan Mum (42:33):
bus to school.
I did not, I did.
Okay, odie, did you ever ridethe bus?
Marc Gregoire (42:36):
to school.
I did not, I did.
Nathan Mum (42:37):
Odie, did you ride the bus to school?
Oh yeah.
What was your experience like?
Mike Gorday (42:43):
It depended on which bus driver I had.
I had cool bus drivers and thenI had Hitler bus drivers.
Okay, all right, they were toscream at you all day long they
screamed wow, okay.
Stop looking, be quiet, alright.
Okay, I will throw you out onthe road, run you over three
(43:05):
times.
Nathan Mum (43:06):
Did you not behave in the bus?
I behaved.
The wheels on the bus go roundand round right.
Ody (43:12):
When were you on a school bus?
That was a long time ago.
Marc Gregoire (43:14):
That was a long time ago.
That was a long long time ago,whoa whoa, whoa, whoa.
Ody (43:17):
Okay, but I was on it from elementary through middle school
, but through high school Iwalked.
Mike Gorday (43:23):
I was in it through high school until I got a car.
Ody (43:26):
Okay so from elementary through high school.
Mike Gorday (43:29):
Yeah, I rode buses from very young.
Okay, mark, when did?
Marc Gregoire (43:33):
you ride yours?
Mine was public bus and thatwas second and third grade.
Oh, actually I did ride publicbus in my junior high.
He didn't say school bus.
Nathan Mum (43:45):
It's school bus day, though.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
He's blending all the bus drivers.
Nathan Mum (43:50):
That doesn't count, mark Alright.
Continue on about this day.
We're excited.
Marc Gregoire (43:53):
Alright, well, school bus drivers, like my
grandfather who did it after heretired from my uncle's school,
here's a toast toasted rye if Ihad any left, I would be
toasting.
Mike Gorday (44:03):
I'm done I'm.
I finished my glass me too.
Marc Gregoire (44:06):
This toasted rye's process begins with the
fully matured elijah craigstraight rye whiskey, which is
then dumped and re-entered atbarrel proof into a second
custom toasted new oak barreldesigned in partnership with the
Independent Stave Company.
The toast on these secondarybarrels is unique to Elijah
Craig toasted rye.
At the end of nearly anhour-long toasting process, a
(44:29):
cap is placed on the barrel toquickly ramp up the heat to an
extremely high temperature,allowing the fennels to embed in
the surface of the barrel foran added element of smoke to
complement the spice andsweetness of the rye.
Unlike many other finishedwhiskeys, this whiskey retains
its status as a Kentuckystraight rye whiskey because the
(44:50):
second finished barrel is bothnew and charred.
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Now, in September 2020, elijahCraig released their toasted
barrel finished bourbon, whichyou have on your shelf back
there.
I do.
I'm not a huge fan of it, but Iknow Nathan is, I am, and this
is really good.
That's on the very top shelf.
Now that one did make a goodcocktail.
Now, since then, everybody hasbeen waiting for them to release
(45:13):
a toasted rye, and here it isfinally.
This is good and it is bothdelicious, neat and in a
cocktail.
It's not a high-end or overlycomplex rye.
However, for the price it'ssomething to at least try once
and second time and the thirdtime and the fourth time, we're
both through our thing.
Mike Gorday (45:31):
I can see how critical that palate's going.
Alright, I can see how criticalthat palette's going, that's
right.
Nathan Mum (45:34):
Well, mark, you know what I strive when I retire, to
actually be a school bus driverfor our local schools also
Excellent, but I'm going toprobably be that Hitler type
that you're talking about.
I'd be like don't talk toanybody, you sit down, put your
hands by each other so thatpeople feel safe?
Speaker 4 (45:51):
I don't think I would drive a bus in this day and age
?
Nathan Mum (45:53):
Really no, I don't think I would drive a bus in
this day and age.
Mike Gorday (45:55):
Really no.
Nathan Mum (45:56):
I think that would be a great way to give back to
the community.
Marc Gregoire (45:59):
Oh, okay, I don't think you would be Unless you
drive it off a bridge.
I don't think you'd bedraconian.
You're going to want to swapand trade.
Nathan Mum (46:06):
Oh, I may be trading , I may be trading.
And toys, oh yeah.
Mike Gorday (46:12):
Transformer, with all the behavior problems that
are going on in schools rightnow.
Nathan Mum (46:16):
I probably really relate to those kids.
What are you talking about?
Mike Gorday (46:19):
They'll be like, hey, they're my jam, yeah you
probably walk on the bus with ashotgun full of salt.
Wow, okay what?
Nathan Mum (46:27):
were you going to say Odie?
Ody (46:29):
I liked my school bus drivers growing up.
They all had their own littlething.
Mike Gorday (46:33):
I don't think.
Ody (46:33):
I had any Hitler ones.
Mike Gorday (46:35):
I had some cool bus drivers, but I often remember
the ones that screamed andyelled all the time my parents
would drop me off to school inhigh school until I could drive.
Things were a lot differentback then, when I was young.
The teachers were often nastyevil.
Nathan Mum (46:51):
They'd sometimes hit your hands.
Mike Gorday (46:53):
Yeah, I had a teacher that would throw erasers
at your head if you weren'tpaying attention.
She would scream at you in themiddle of the class.
In fact, she ruled with suchfear that people were afraid to
ask her to go to the bathroom,so they would just pee in their
pants.
Marc Gregoire (47:10):
Oh wow, I'm sorry .
Is this what's wrong with you?
Yeah, no, that wasn't me.
I didn't do that, I just watchpeople do it, Mike.
Nathan Mum (47:16):
I'm sorry.
Is this what's wrong with?
Mike Gorday (47:17):
you?
Yeah, no, that wasn't me.
I didn't do that, I just watchpeople do it.
I barf dinner laptop, that's awhole story.
Nathan Mum (47:24):
Whiskey and technology are such a great
pairing, just like potatoesbeing served with steak.
That's a good one.
Marc Gregoire (47:30):
You know what have you ever?
Nathan Mum (47:33):
gone to a steak restaurant where they didn't
have potatoes as a side.
No, I cannot think of any placethat may have a substitute for
pasta, but the main plate isnormally steak and it's normally
a potato item.
You got one, odie.
Why are you explaining that toeverybody?
Ody (47:52):
Culturally I would say beans and rice.
Marc Gregoire (47:57):
I love rice with steak.
My wife thinks I'm crazy.
Well, you know, Mark, you kindof, are she's not wrong?
Mike Gorday (48:04):
Okay there you go.
Marc Gregoire (48:05):
Yeah, those two are delicious.
Nathan Mum (48:08):
Okay, well, we got lots to talk about, so let's
prepare for our Technology Failof the Week, brought to you by
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out of a technology fail.
Congratulations, You're afailure.
Speaker 9 (48:20):
Oh, I failed.
Did I, yes, did I.
Nathan Mum (48:24):
Yes, all right.
This week's technology failurecomes to us from the Seattle
Department of Transportation andhaving their crosswalks hacked.
Seattle crosswalk buttons werehacked all across the nation to
sound like Jeff All acrossSeattle.
No, across the nation becausethey happened in San Francisco.
Oh really, yes, it has SanFrancisco, and it happened in
(48:46):
Texas and other locations, oh,okay.
So there's a Zuckerberg version.
There's an Elon Musk version andour own Pacific Northwest
version is Jeff Bezos.
Now, we were lucky enough tocapture some of this audio, so,
odie, can you play that audiofor us?
Speaker 4 (49:08):
Hi, I'm Jeff Bezos.
This crosswalk is sponsored byAmazon Prime with an important
message.
You know, please, please, don'ttax the rich, otherwise all the
other billionaires will move toFlorida too.
Wouldn't it be terrible if allthe rich people left Seattle or
got Luigi'd and then normalpeople could afford to live here
(49:31):
again?
Jeffrey Jeffrey Bezos.
Nathan Mum (49:37):
All right, so we have that.
Ody (49:38):
You know what they're forgetting?
What's that?
A code word.
Nathan Mum (49:41):
A code word.
A code word, what's that?
Ody (49:44):
To know that it's not actually them.
Nathan Mum (49:46):
Oh, okay.
Oh, that's right.
Oh, that's from last week'sepisode.
They should have said I'm JeffBezos.
My code word is donkey.
Mike Gorday (49:57):
Donkey, it is donkey donkey.
Nathan Mum (49:57):
Oh, that's right, that's good.
Okay, did you like the gotluigi part?
So do you know what that means?
That's the dude that killed theceo.
Is that they're how they'reusing it, okay?
Mike Gorday (50:04):
because, uh, it used to mean just downgraded to
to uh nerf, nerf land okay,where you had to play the basic
game because you couldn't do iton normal.
Yeah, the crosswalk issponsored.
Couldn't do it on normal.
Nathan Mum (50:15):
Yeah, the crosswalk is sponsored by Amazon Prime.
It says with an importantmessage don't tax the rich,
Otherwise the other billionaireswill move to Florida, or you
know?
Wouldn't it be terrible if therich people left Seattle and
they got Luigi'd and the normalpeople could afford to live here
again?
The audio recording atcrosswalks play a critical role
for people who are blind andhave limited vision, helping
them cross the street safely.
(50:36):
The seattle department oftransportation said in an email
statement we are concerned thatsomeone would disregard the
safety of people to make apolitical statement and part of
south lake union neighborhood,where amazon headquarters campus
is located now.
Bezos left seattle for southflorida in 2023, raising
questions at the time whetherWashington state's capital gains
(50:57):
tax was partly to blame.
The Luigi reference is to theman accused of killing United
healthcare CEO Brian Thompson inNew York city in December.
The audio also includes asnippet of the viral basil song
by musician Bo Burnham.
Have you guys seen that?
Have you?
Have you watched that wholevideo?
Oh my gosh, Hilarious, Okay,never mind, All right.
(51:17):
Crashback buttons in SiliconValley were hacked, also
including audio voices thatsounded like Meta CEO Mark
Zuckerberg and Tesla CEO ElonMusk, and it's normal to feel
uncomfortable or even violatedas we forcefully insert AI into
every facet of yourconsciousness.
Experience was the Zuckerbergsounding button.
I just want to ensure you youdon't have to worry, because
(51:38):
there's absolutely nothing youcan do about it.
And then you know what?
Why don't you hear?
Take a look at Elon Musk's.
He says I guess they say moneycan't buy happiness.
I guess that's true.
God knows, I've tried.
But if you can buy a cybertruck, that's pretty sick, right
, Said the Musk button.
And then it goes on to swear,saying F, I'm so alone.
So there you go.
(52:00):
Now it's unknown who's behindthis stunt.
Actually, it's not unknown.
There's people that have claimedthis stunt on the dark web, so
it's absolutely known whichgroup did this?
I did it.
Marc Gregoire (52:09):
Well no, you didn't.
Nathan Mum (52:11):
But, all right, the hacker group infiltrated the
technology that controls deviceswhich usually emit sound audio
commands, or an ai voice thatsays walk, walk, walk.
You know, what I now know isthat I don't have to have that
animatronic voice of walk.
If you spend enough time in thetransportation systems, you can
come up with a very coolsounding audio to play when I'm
(52:33):
crossing the road.
So you know what?
I think that we need to come upwith some cool audios.
I mean, everybody's intocorporate sponsorships, so we
should say hey, you know, thiscrosswalk is sponsored by XYZ.
You know, come join us at theSeattle Mariners game.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Mike Gorday (52:46):
As you're walking across.
Yeah, let's not do that.
Nathan Mum (52:48):
No, let's just keep it like basic and let people
live, all right well, there is awhole group that is being
encouraged, such as hacktivism,to say right now, things are not
going very well.
You can take a look at ayoutube video.
Just search for walk signhacktivision and you'll find the
group that is takingresponsibility for this social
(53:11):
media hack.
Wow, we're gonna take acommercial break.
When we return, we have ourNathan negative or Nathan rant,
really, and then our pick of theday.
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This is your Nugget of the Week.
Nathan Mum (53:45):
All right, so I want to go back to one of our lead
stories here.
When an employee, partner orinvestor interacts with a leader
, they are participating in acomplex social agreement rooted
in vulnerability and sharedobjectives well you didn't write
that sentence?
No, he totally didn't why whatthe heck was that a1 that wrote
that for you?
No, it was no a1.
They observe micro expressions,emotional states and adjusted
(54:09):
bases on subtle signals that notai.
Mike Gorday (54:12):
You're giving people too much credit here, man
what's that?
Nathan Mum (54:14):
so let's talk about this.
Mike Gorday (54:16):
Where did you get that, the whole thing about
micro-expressions yeah, I wasgoing into this.
Nathan Mum (54:22):
I did a lot of research in this, okay, so
micro-expressions, yeah.
So we talked about litamy.
Mike Gorday (54:28):
We've talked about this many times, but
micro-expressions happen so fastthat most people don't even see
them.
So, people don't really observemicro-expressions.
Speaker 5 (54:36):
They can get an idea that something happened.
Mike Gorday (54:37):
I think good leaders do yeah, I don't think
so.
Marc Gregoire (54:39):
Well, we haven't had a good leader.
Well, Mike, you mean they don'tobserve it in general, or they
don't observe it consciously,but unconsciously it's taken in.
Mike Gorday (54:49):
It's consciously.
They might have seen it andthey might get something in
their, in their head that says,oh, something's wrong here, but
they don't actually observe themall right well, so let's talk
about this.
Nathan Mum (55:00):
When individuals follow leaders, they normally
lead by emotion and hope,confidence, security and
inspiration that's why I followyou oh all right no algorithm
mark, here you're showing yourthat's right
you can't evoke these genuineemotions right.
They can only mimic them.
So if I'm going into a meetingand there's an AI boss there
that is expressing how I'm doingand talking with me, I have no
(55:23):
interest.
I will become a curmudgeon, Iwill be Mr Gourdet and I will
get up and walk out if I have tointeract with an AI boss,
because I would expect someempathy.
I would expect some empathy, Iwould expect some engagement.
I would expect to have theability to have a conversation
and be able to read the room onwhat's going on in the room
itself.
Mike Gorday (55:45):
This whole day has been sort of a rant, but I'm
completely on your side there.
Nathan Mum (55:52):
You're on my side.
I'm a little disappointed.
Marc Gregoire (55:55):
Why is that?
I wouldn't mind using this formy team, your current team,
because then I could just be athome in the backyard in a
jacuzzi having a drink, and he'djust be like, okay, mark.
Mike Gorday (56:05):
Can't you?
Okay, just thinking about that.
Doesn't that sound like thegreatest insult to the people
you work with?
Marc Gregoire (56:12):
Oh it does.
I mean insult to the people youwork with, oh yeah I mean like
be like hey, you know I createda.
Mike Gorday (56:16):
I created a, an ai bot for, for you to interact
with, so you don't have to talkto me because I am so much
better than you.
Nathan Mum (56:22):
I am so awesome, I am so much better than you that
all you peons I have no interestto talk.
Mike Gorday (56:27):
You know this, this , this happened to this uh
youtube guy that, uh, not toolong ago, was was big into this
AI stuff and he created these AIbots that did exactly this.
They cloned his voice.
He had an avatar that lookedkind of like him and it just
blew him out of the water.
It just destroyed his YouTubecareer.
Nathan Mum (56:47):
But there's no algorithm that can do genuine
emotions.
Marc Gregoire (56:50):
So at the end of this, no there isn't.
Nathan Mum (56:52):
I will.
If Odie's looking at me sadabout something and I'm talking
oh, she just flipped me off andso she does.
She does something like that ina nice joking way.
Uh, we understand that we'reconnecting and we're like
relating.
If I'm an ai bot.
Mike Gorday (57:04):
Yeah, all of a sudden, I see it right now those
are called macro expressions.
Yeah, I see those.
Nathan Mum (57:08):
I see those, but but all of a sudden, if I'm an ai
bot, I'd be be like hi Odie, howare you doing?
Oh, I see that you moved afinger, are you okay?
Do we need to talk?
Ody (57:18):
Yeah, that's my thumbs up.
That's your thumbs up, okay,but you know what triggers me.
Nathan Mum (57:24):
What's that?
Ody (57:24):
Zoom meetings already exist .
Yeah, they can't even bebothered to just be present via
wherever they are.
Nathan Mum (57:32):
And you can turn the video off.
So you got your picture.
You got your picture, so Icould be doing two other things.
You just have to respond.
Do you know how many meetings Ido sometimes with that?
Mike Gorday (57:38):
That is exactly why I'm so upset about this is
because it is one of the mostlaziest effing things I've ever
heard.
Nathan Mum (57:44):
It's more lazy than what's currently available and
it's insulting, it is moreinsulting than saying hey, ever
trust an AI bot, I know, it's acommon expression.
Ody (57:57):
This could have all been an email.
Nathan Mum (57:58):
That's right.
You know what?
Excuse me everybody.
Marc Gregoire (58:00):
At the end of this nugget, you're going to let
us know how to get one of these.
Nathan Mum (58:03):
Well, hang on.
Excuse me, I need to ask myAlexa to play my 70s country
music to calm me down.
Marc Gregoire (58:09):
Alexa play me calming mean 70s country music
there you go all right and nowyou are no longer my, my leader
and hero what's that you don'tlike?
Nathan Mum (58:17):
70s country music?
No, sir, what?
Oh okay, let's now.
Let's get an ai bot to changeyour mind let's move to our pick
of the day whiskey tasting andnow our pick of the day for our
whiskey tastings.
Marc Gregoire (58:34):
Let's see what bubbles to the top we are
drinking elijah craig toastedrye from heaven hill 94 proof,
55 msrp and easily easy to findthumbs up man all the way.
Nathan Mum (58:50):
I know it's going to be more critical big surprise
to anybody.
Marc Gregoire (58:53):
This is so good, maybe you should have your AI
bot talk about how valid it is.
That's a very 60s psychedelicanswer not 70s country, okay,
well, you know what?
Nathan Mum (59:02):
I have a bachelor party I have to go to this
evening and we just may have toscope one of these bottles here.
This would make it all mucheasier.
Okay, All right.
Mike Gorday (59:10):
What do you think?
Oh, I give it a thumbs up.
I like the taste.
It's got a really good finish.
It's a little bit too much onthe side of sweet, but it's just
enough to still warrant thatthumbs up.
And Mark, what do you think?
Marc Gregoire (59:27):
I enjoy this one.
It's not top shelf, but it's agreat one to have on your shelf.
You can put it like I said it'sinexpensive enough.
You can throw it in a cocktailfor somebody Somebody like you
coming over.
I'd serve you this versussomething else high up, but I
still enjoy drinking it.
Nathan Mum (59:39):
It's still delicious , all right.
Well, all of you guys, it's anhonor to be your host on today's
show.
Remember, the science oftomorrow starts with the
technology of today.
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