A federal judge has just delivered a stunning blow to Apple's App Store dominance, permanently banning the tech giant from charging commissions on purchases made outside their walled garden. This landmark ruling in Epic Games' ongoing legal battle against Apple not only paves the way for Fortnite's return to iOS but signals a fundamental shift in how digital marketplaces operate. Could this be the beginning of the end for Apple's notorious 30% "tax" on developers?
Meanwhile, your polite interactions with AI might be costing more than you think. OpenAI CEO Sam Altman recently revealed that users saying "please" and "thank you" to ChatGPT costs the company tens of millions of dollars annually—money he considers "well spent." Beyond the financial implications, these interactions have surprising environmental consequences, with AI-generated content consuming substantial energy resources. As 67% of users report being polite to their AI assistants (with 12% doing so to appease potential robot overlords), the question emerges: does courtesy to algorithms matter?
The financial world isn't sitting idle either. Visa's ambitious new initiative aims to give AI agents direct access to your wallet, allowing them to make purchases on your behalf based on preferences and budgets. This move beyond simple chatbots raises profound questions about convenience versus control in our digital lives. As consumer credit card debt soars past $1.21 trillion, should we trust algorithms to manage our spending habits? We explore the benefits and potential pitfalls of this new frontier in financial technology.
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This week, we're going to breakdown the biggest technology
stories of the week and exposethe trends shaping our digital
future.
Today, we're diving into amajor court ruling that could
shake Apple's grip on the AppStore.
What does this mean fordevelopers and your wallet Plus?
Openai CEO Sam Altman hassomething to say about those
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polite prompts to AI.
Could your manners be costingmillions Then?
Visa is pushing AI beyondsimple chatbots into managing
your finances, but how muchcontrol should we give these
digital assistants?
And in our letter segment,we're unveiling some of the
latest scams hitting inboxes andmessages submitted by listeners
like you.
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including Mike's mesmerizingmoment, our technology fail the
day and our Nathan nugget.
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Now, though, let's move on tothe latest headlines in the
world technology here are ourtop technology stories of the
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week all right, a judge justblew up apple's control of the
app store.
The judge in vs Apple has bannedApple from charging a
commission on purchases madeoutside of the App Store itself.
Let's go to Lisa Walker formore on this story.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Judge Yvonne Gonzalez-Rogers just ruled that,
effective immediately, apple isno longer allowed to collect
fees on purchases made outsidethe app's software program and
blocks the company fromrestricting how developers can
point users.
Apple says it will appeal theorder.
The ruling was issued as partof Epic Games' ongoing legal
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dispute against Apple.
Rogers also says that Applewillfully chose not to comply
with her previous injunctionfrom her original 2021 ruling.
Apple thought this court wouldtolerate such insubordination
was a gross miscalculation, shesaid.
The judge also referred thecase to the US attorney to
review it for possible criminalcontempt proceedings.
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An apple a day keeps thelawyers in play.
Nathan Mumm (04:20):
Back to you guys in the studio play back to you
guys in the studio, all right.
So, according to, the judge hasstated that apple is prohibited
from one imposing anycommissions or fees on purchases
that consumers make outside anapp.
So that means, if you have anapp and this is really going to
epic and fortnite, this is wherethis battle originally started
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and if, if you want to domicrotransactions in Fortnite
this is what Epic was sayingthey used to send them to Epic
store.
They would buy it at the Epicstore itself and then it would
be a part of your character.
Apple currently, until thisinjunction again happened, would
charge a fee for anybody thatwould do a purchase within the
Apple environment itself.
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Now they're also restrictingdeveloper style formatting or
placement of links for off apppurchases.
They can't do that.
So before, if you were tryingto submit an app and you said,
hey, come visit us online, thenthey would say we're not going
to publish you in the app store,blocking or limiting the use of
buttons or other calls toaction in the games.
So if you're're in a game andyou want to buy something, you
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can buy it immediately,interfering with consumers'
ability to leave an app beyondproviding a natural message
apprising users that they'regoing to a third-party site.
So Olivia Dalton, apple's SeniorDirector of Corporate
Communications, issued astatement asserting we strongly
disagree with the decision, butwe will comply with the court's
orders and we will appeal Now.
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Disagree with the decision, butwe will comply with the court's
orders and we will appeal now.
Tim sweeney, ceo of epic games,announced that, in light of
their ruling, fortnight will bereturning to the us app store
next week.
Additionally, sweeney haspresented a peace proposal, a
peace proposal from epic.
If apple extends the court'sfriction-free, apple tax-free
framework worldwide will returnfortnight to the app store
worldwide and drop current andfuture litigations on the topic.
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So essentially, they're sayingif you keep with what the judge
has ruled and this is the secondtime now they've gone to this
judge so that she ruled.
First time it was illegal appleapple did nothing.
They went back and they talkedabout it and tim cook's decision
making why should apple doanything?
so they said, screw it, we'renot going to do anything.
And so they went to the secondtime.
So Epic says, hey, we'll dropthis lawsuit.
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I think Apple will absolutelylose the Epic lawsuit.
I think it will be in themillions to billions of dollars
that will be rewarded to Epicfor this lawsuit in itself.
They said that we'll stop rightnow if you just let us publish
the deal.
Now Apple takes 30% in apppurchases.
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So this is right now if youorder something for $10, you're
paying $13 for the item itself.
$10 only goes to the actualprovider of the utility that
would be available, and fordoing absolutely nothing, apple
gets their 30%.
This has now been removed.
Now Apple instituted a policyrequiring developers to pay a
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27% commissions on thosetransactions.
So they collect 30% from theperson and then, with the number
that they have so think of thisas $10, then $2.70 has to be
paid by the company.
So they're making $3 on thetransaction.
$2.70 has to be paid by thecompany, so they're making $3 on
the transaction $2.70.
So when you're all said anddone for a $13 transaction, the
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actual provider of the contentthat you're getting is getting
less than $7 total in thetransaction that's available
there.
So I believe this marks asignificant shift for Apple and
its future business practices.
Moving forward, do you thinkthat Apple should be able to
charge companies to do whatthey're doing?
Mike Gorday (07:49):
Well, I don't know.
Nathan Mumm (07:53):
I think you're both kind of 50-50.
Mike Gorday (07:55):
This just goes back into what is ethical and
necessary and how thesebillionaire companies are
getting away with ripping offanybody they can rip off, right,
yeah, does they're doing it?
You know, meta's doing it,amazon's doing it, everybody's
doing it.
Yeah.
And you know it's kind of funnythat we keep reporting on these
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court cases and apple's justlike throwing up the middle
finger.
Nathan Mumm (08:25):
Yeah, Like okay thanks for your decision, but
we're not changing a darn thing,all right.
Mike Gorday (08:30):
All right, I think she was a little peeved by that.
Nathan Mumm (08:32):
She was.
She is very so.
This is the wrong judge to have, and the continuing I mean.
So she decided to send it up acourt for criminal
investigations.
That does not happen.
So that for criminalinvestigations.
That does not happen.
So this judge is so messed up.
Mike Gorday (08:45):
I don't think the judge is messed up.
She's so pissed off.
I think you know we talk aboutit quite a bit, but these
companies, these huge megacorporations, are running
roughshod over a lot of thingsand they should be held
accountable.
Nathan Mumm (09:04):
I agree.
All right, you got story numbertwo.
Mike Gorday (09:05):
Hopefully it's a little bit nicer I don't know
okay did you know that sayingplease and thank you to chat gpt
wastes millions of dollars?
I did not know that.
Yeah, explain more.
Apparently that is true.
Sam altman, the ceo of open ai,recently stated that users
courteous behavior towards aichatbots, such as saying please
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and thank you, cost the companymillions of dollars.
Nathan Mumm (09:29):
Okay.
Mike Gorday (09:30):
When a user on X questioned how much OpenAI loses
because of these polite actions, Altman replies that it totals
tens of millions of dollars wellspent.
Nathan Mumm (09:40):
Okay.
Mike Gorday (09:41):
Although treating an AI chatbot with courtesy may
seem trivial, experts believethat politeness influences AI
interactions.
Curtis Beaver's Microsoftdesign manager, suggested
employing respectful languagewhen communicating with AI helps
generate respectfulcollaborative outputs.
Essentially, polite requestsestablish a tone for responses
that can lead to more effectiveand professional exchanges for
responses that can lead to moreeffective and professional
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exchanges.
A recent survey conducted inlate 2024 found that 67% of AI
users in the US reported beingpolite to their chatbots.
Among these users, 55% said itwas because it's the right thing
to do, while 12% did so toappease the algorithm in case of
a potential AI uprising.
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Okay, all right.
Though the idea of AI rebellingin the future may seem humorous,
the environmental consequencesof such interactions are very
real.
A study by the University ofCalifornia in the Washington
Post revealed that creating asimple 100-word email using AI
requires 0.14 kilowatt hours ofelectricity, which is enough to
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power 14 LED lights for one hour.
If someone sent oneAI-generated email each week for
an entire year, that would use7.5 kilowatts of energy,
approximately equal to theenergy consumed by nine
households in Washington DC forone hour.
Given the enormous number ofprompts and queries that an AI
handles daily, the total energyconsumption soon becomes
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astounding.
Data centers that support thesechatbots account for around 2%
of the global energy usage, andthis figure is projected to
increase significantly as AIbecomes further integrated into
everyday life.
Sam Altman stands by hisassertion that being polite is
worth tens of millions ofdollars, emphasizing that the
price tag pales in comparison tothe value of old-fashioned
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courtesy.
Nathan Mumm (11:36):
All right.
So let me ask you about thatwhen you are working with,
because you use AI.
You said you use AI to help youout Do you say thank you to it.
Mike Gorday (11:44):
I don't do it.
I say thank you to Alexa whenshe does what I need her to do.
Nathan Mumm (11:50):
Okay, so you say thank you.
Mike Gorday (11:51):
Yeah, it's just kind of ingrained in me.
I don't do it when I'm typingout things.
Marc Gregoire (11:56):
All right.
Mike Gorday (11:57):
That doesn't make any sense to me.
Nathan Mumm (11:59):
Well, sometimes it prompts you back.
Is this the right response?
Mike Gorday (12:09):
And so I always respond yes, thank you.
So I don't for some reason Idon't translate it like that
when I'm talking to the freakingAlexa thing and she does what I
need her to do.
Nathan Mumm (12:14):
It's imposed like a voice, so you think it's kind
of like a person.
Mike Gorday (12:17):
Well, yeah, yeah, it's kind of like that.
You know, thanks, thanks, alexa.
Oh, and she'll say you'rewelcome, yeah, you know, thanks.
Thanks, alexa.
Oh, and she'll.
She'll say you're welcome.
Yeah, you know.
And then when she doesn't dowhat I want her to and I call
her all kinds of bad names shejust makes a funny sound and
turns off wow, okay, wow, I'venever really got after my alexa
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a whole lot I?
I do all the time because I askher, I ask her queries and her
answer is like I don't have theanswer to that question.
Why the hell do you exist?
Nathan Mumm (12:47):
Okay, turn on your lights.
Mike Gorday (12:49):
I do it with my phone and my car too.
You know, I'm driving aroundand I'm trying to do things with
my phone.
I've said things to it that itlike comes back with like little
things that say you know, justbecause I'm an AI chat bot
doesn't mean I can't be hurt bythese words wow, you must be,
you must be going after your aichatbots a lot.
Nathan Mumm (13:07):
Huh yeah, okay, I guess is that is that pent-up
energy you get to get out on theai.
Mike Gorday (13:12):
But I figure when they take over, I need to be
taken out as fast as possible,so I don't end up being a slave
all right, this is a story forod here.
Nathan Mumm (13:20):
story number three visa wants to give artificial
intelligence agency yourpocketbook.
Now, these agents are designedto be more advanced.
This is something that Visa isdoing.
Agents are designed to be moreadvanced than just chatbots.
The tech sector has dedicatedmonths to promoting AI personal
assistance, capable ofunderstanding your needs and
performing tasks on your behalf.
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Visa aims to change this byintegrating your credit card
with these AI agents.
By setting a budget andpreferences, these AI successors
to chat, gpt and other chatbotscould help you find and
purchase items such as a sweater, weekly groceries or even your
airplane tickets.
Now, last week, visa announced apartnership with several
leading AI chat developers,including US companies,
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anthropic Microsoft, openai,perplexity and France's Mistral,
to connect their AI systemswith Visa's payment network.
Visa is also collaborating withIBM, online payment firm Stripe
and phone manufacturer Samsungon this initiative.
Now, the pilot projects willcommence in the next couple of
weeks, with a broader rolloutanticipated over the year.
(14:24):
Now the San Francisco paymentcompany believes that this will
be the futuristic way of makingpurchases, so we're already kind
of doing this, if you thinkabout it, with Apple Pay that
effectively turns your phonesinto a credit card.
Now think of similar vettingprocess for digital credentials
that would empower AI agents tooperate on the customer's behalf
, assuring buyers, banks andmerchants that transactions are
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genuine and that Visa will thenmanage any disputes.
Visa doesn't imply AI agentswill fully take over the
shopping experience.
However, they might take overtasks for some tedious, like
grocery shopping, home bills,home improvement items or even
maybe Christmas lists, but otheritems considered to be a little
bit more complicated will stillencourage people to purchase
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luxury goods, entertainment andother items that customers wish
to fully engage with thedecision-making process.
Are you concerned about creditcards taking over in purchasing?
Now let's just talk about whatthe Federal Reserve came on out,
saying that over America rightnow, the consumer balance on
credit cards has reached $1.21trillion of debt that is owed
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out there on credit cards.
Would you turn your AI bot overand let them purchase and
manage your budget?
Well, that's a lot of dead airthere.
All right, what are youthinking?
no what you would say no thatthat feels so weird well, so
this is.
Mike Gorday (15:53):
This is what's happening would you, would you,
would you allow an ai chatbot touh?
Ody (16:00):
does that mean that they're looking into everything that
I'm doing and they know what Ibought, so they'll even so they
will suggest for you.
Nathan Mumm (16:06):
And on ways to save money, they'll suggest for you
I understand that part okay, sonow I use bill pay, so let me
just say and then, and thenit'll buy your groceries for you
yeah I don't like that apple,so we use apple pay.
I use apple pay all the time somy phone is now a credit card
with apple pay yeah I do do alot of online bill pay stuff.
(16:30):
I think most of us do onlinebill pay, so what's the
difference of just having an AIbot take over your bill paying
processes?
Mike Gorday (16:35):
Well, let's see Visa being a for-profit company.
Maybe the more that they buyfor you, the more they make.
Well, yes, so this is tocompete with cryptocurrency.
Nathan Mumm (16:47):
This is Visa's attack on cryptocurrency,
because cryptocurrency isgaining popularity I've now I I
was.
I was down at the localkroger's here.
You know you can now pay foryour groceries on both ethereum
and bitcoin.
No, that is now an option tocheck out.
You got cash, but that's what.
Mike Gorday (17:03):
That's what that was designed to do right it is
it's designed to eventually getrid of regular currency.
Nathan Mumm (17:10):
That is so.
Kroger now has an option whereI can actually literally put in
a bit.
Now I didn't do all the workfor it and I've heard that it's
just cumbersome because you haveto know your password, you have
to know what your transactionis.
But soon, if Apple Pay comes upwith cryptocurrency holding and
I just go there and I haveApple Pay, comes up with
cryptocurrency holding and Ijust go there and I have Apple
Pay, I put my phone up there.
Cryptocurrency pays for it.
Boom.
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Now Visa is making no moremoney on the transaction.
Credit card companies disappearin seconds.
Mike Gorday (17:35):
So why not create an indentured servitude thing
where Visa controls all yourmoney?
And yeah, that's not wherethat's going.
Ody (17:46):
Every day we get closer to Black Mirror, we do.
That's all where that's goingEvery day we get closer to Black
Mirror.
Nathan Mumm (17:49):
We do.
Ody (17:49):
Like that's all I'm thinking about.
I don't remember what theepisode is called, but there's
an episode where they basicallytake a tiny version of yourself
and then keep them trapped inyour head and it's your own
personal assistant.
That's what I'm thinking aboutin this whole sense.
Every day we're getting closerto that yeah, well, you know
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it's not.
Mike Gorday (18:11):
You know, this is something that seems innocuous
when you first hear about it,because of saying, well, we're
just going to do what you'realready doing with these other
companies.
But pretty soon it'll be like,hey, you'll get a message and
hey, we noticed that you buydiet coke every other week.
Do you want us to go ahead anddo that for you automatically?
Ody (18:31):
yeah, sure I don't want so it's called the memory device
green.
Nathan Mumm (18:36):
That's what it was called.
That little yeah, that was inthere yeah that was what it was.
Yeah, so I see, that'sterrifying I I, I, I'm actually
kind of okay with it.
I would actually probably beone of the early adopters of
that.
Really yeah, because I alreadyhave all my credit cards.
They're already getting paidfor my Comcast.
Mike Gorday (18:53):
They're already getting paid for StreamYard
Nathan's kissing up to the AI.
I understand in the sense ofbill pay.
Ody (19:00):
It'd be something like not having to think but making
purchases on its own based on myhistory.
I would hate that but helpingme Manage what I'm doing.
Nathan Mumm (19:11):
Do you like shopping, though I hate shopping
.
I think, as an early adopter ofhating shopping, maybe that's
the key.
Go buy me a new sweater everythree months, when I need a new
sweater.
Mike Gorday (19:22):
Who does?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
that what.
Ody (19:25):
I use.
Nathan Mumm (19:25):
Stitch Fix, I get all my new clothes.
Ody (19:28):
Yeah, because you hate shopping, I do, so this is ideal
for you.
Mike Gorday (19:30):
That's why you look like a slob all the time.
Nathan Mumm (19:32):
I know.
Come on, my guy from New Yorkpicked this out.
This looks fantastic.
Mike Gorday (19:37):
Yeah, but that's a person.
It looks fantastic on amannequin.
I don't know, if to be a person.
This is just surreal, man, yeah, okay.
Nathan Mumm (19:49):
Well, that ends our top technology stories of the
week.
Next we dive into our letters?
Mike Gorday (19:54):
When are you going to just have the AI just take
over your slot here?
On the thing, just set up aspeaker.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
There's no way.
Mike Gorday (20:01):
He could just make bad grammar Wow.
Nathan Mumm (20:06):
We're going to dive into our letter segment next,
featuring scams submitted bylisteners and some studio
selected issues.
Be sure you're listening andshare this segment with a friend
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Get ready as we hit 88 milesper hour on our way to the next
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Nathan Mumm (21:09):
All right, welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan
Mumm.
Our weekly show covers the toptechnology stories without any
political agenda.
We verify the facts and we dealwith the sense of humor in less
than 60 minutes and, of course,with a little whiskey on the
side.
Today, mark Gregoire our TodayMark Gregoire, our whiskey
connoisseur, our residentchatbot is in studio and has our
monthly tradition Mark explainto us what we're doing with this
(21:30):
whiskey at the beginning of themonth, for all of the new
listeners.
Marc Gregoire (21:34):
Yeah, today we're doing the 2024 Flavor Advent
Calendar and this is our roundfive.
So we're using the AdventCalendar with 24 remarkable
whiskeys to use for a year-longblind whiskey competition to see
which one Nathan and Mike likebest.
I got two that I really like onthis.
Today is round five, where theywill choose their winner to
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move on to the semifinals.
If they disagree, I will be thedeciding vote.
Nathan Mumm (22:09):
Oh boy, okay.
So this is group five.
How many preliminary rounds dowe have?
Six, six, okay.
So after next month, when weget into June, we'll then start
moving our way until we get intoa winner.
All right, I like two of thesea lot.
Marc Gregoire (22:27):
Let me tell you a little about today.
Our samples are all bourbons.
However, they're a mixture ofblended straight bourbons and
toasted finished bourbons.
Now, a blended straight bourbonis a blend of two or more
straight bourbons, possibly fromdifferent states or
distilleries, but without anyadded neutral spirits, flavors
or coloring.
Toasted finished bourbons arebourbons that undergo a
(22:48):
secondary maturation in toastedbarrels, often following initial
aging in a traditional charredoak barrel.
This process, this finishingprocess, imparts unique, often
sweeter, more dessert-likeflavors to the whiskey.
Nathan Mumm (23:04):
Okay, you know, I like two of these a lot.
So are two of these toasted.
Marc Gregoire (23:07):
So are two of these toasted two are toasted
and two are blended I think Ilove the toasted.
I think I have two of thetoasted oh well, let's see, wish
, wish, wish two, so this oneand this one, so that's the
water glass.
Yeah, that one is a toastedokay, and what's the other one?
The glen karen.
That one is a blend.
(23:29):
Oh, that's a blend yeah, one ofeach.
Nathan Mumm (23:31):
Oh no, okay, I thought I was getting the toast.
I'm starting to.
I'm starting to buy a lot oftoast, all right, well you
certainly are toasted.
Mike Gorday (23:39):
Is that what you said?
Marc Gregoire (23:40):
I'm gonna be toasted well, let all our
listeners and viewers out theredon't forget to like and
subscribe.
Drink responsibly, especiallywhen you're doing a lot of
whiskey tasting, because heavencan wait all right, mark.
Nathan Mumm (23:51):
Thanks so much.
All right, with our firstwhiskey tasting completed, let's
move on to our feature segment.
Today we bring back the funnyyet informative reading of
emails that I received duringthe week.
This includes scam, phishingemails, texting scams and
all-out mistruths disguised aslegitimate emails in a segment
we call Letters.
Ody (24:08):
Letters.
We get letters.
We get back, back, back thoseletters.
Marc Gregoire (24:14):
Oh, letters, we get letters, and the letters all
have fun.
Nathan Mumm (24:23):
All right, as we go around, we go around the table,
we start with Odie first, thenwe'll go Mark, then we'll go
Mike and then we'll go myself.
Now let me just tell you I I'mgonna be a little different
today.
I don't actually have a letter,but I'm gonna be talking about
a brand new scam that is hittingthe markets.
So that's kind of my my gig.
But let's start with you first,od.
What do you have there?
Ody (24:38):
um, I have something that says site scan okay schedule
this.
Wow, the scheduled site scan.
Found one issue with scanningand it says g saga me, expo me,
expocom okay okay, novulnerabilities, wordpress, and
then it gives you some fun thing.
What action should I take?
(24:58):
Go pro now or get solidsecurity pro all right, so so
this is a standard.
Nathan Mumm (25:06):
So if you have a website yeah, if you own a
website and you use a wordwebsite, which is, like now, 95%
of the market and 4% is likeWix, and then there's like 1% of
custom HTML If you have aWordPress site, what happens is
there's plugins that you loadand a lot of them are security
related and a lot of them tellyou when something's wrong or
(25:26):
when something's right.
It's really interesting rightnow with ChatGPT, because you
can actually just go to ChatGPTand ask them to write you a
WordPress plugin, and it's about80 to 90% inclusive of making
sure that that app actuallyworks.
So you don't even have to nowdownload these pre-done apps or
pay somebody for these, becauseyou can actually have ChatGPT or
Grok or some AI actually go andcreate code for you and, boom,
(25:48):
it's ready to go.
But this is a scam.
Specifically on a WordPresssite that I had once set up, it
looks like there's some securityvulnerabilities.
As soon as I start looking intoit, they start saying that I
have more vulnerabilities, morevulnerabilities, and as you keep
on clicking and clicking andclicking, there's different
software packages that will helpcorrect and make my site safer.
(26:09):
So not only does it tell me tobuy one software, it tells me to
buy a second software and athird software and a fourth
software to keep the site upwhen really there is absolutely
nothing wrong with the site tobegin with.
So it's all kind of a scaretactic.
Looks really good.
You don't ever want to haveyour website vulnerable.
So you're going to click on,give me more information, and
(26:29):
what happens is when you go andyou start clicking on it, they
start selling you other items.
Now they're not actuallymalicious.
That's what I was wondering.
They're not malicious items,but you don't need these items
to fix your site.
Your site is still fine.
They're just giving you a falsepositive warning the placebo
effect yes.
Mike Gorday (26:45):
False positive warning placebo effect yes.
What happens when visa startsbuying those things for you?
Nathan Mumm (26:48):
the plugins for.
Mike Gorday (26:50):
Uh, yeah, I don't know if they're gonna do that
thing you know you have like 80000 plugins and you can't figure
out where it is and visa's likesmiling also, it's important to
note that, looking at the emailitself, it looks like a legit
email it's pretty close.
Nathan Mumm (27:03):
Right now it looks like a security email other than
the fact that it's g saga meexpocom yeah so it's kind of a
site.
It was a site that I actuallyhave purchased on godaddy, so
they knew that I have the site.
I don't have anything runningon that site, so they shouldn't
have expected that.
So the thing is is great scam.
I don't have anything on thatsite.
So when you're trying to tellme there's vulnerabilities, I
(27:24):
don't have anything.
That's just a parked domainsite.
But still their actual effortworked pretty good to.
If you had that site and thatsite was actually being used, I
think I would have clicked on itand done a couple purchases.
All right, mark, we'll go toyou next what does your letter
have?
Marc Gregoire (27:38):
mine is pretty lame oh wow, now, now.
Nathan Mumm (27:41):
Now, now he doesn't like.
Marc Gregoire (27:43):
Okay, hang on now it's lame from the spammers.
Okay, let Let me tell you so.
It came from Citricom Billing,aka OmniNet, and it says it's an
invoice.
And it says Dear Nathan Mum,the attached invoice number blah
, blah, blah, for $0 is due.
Well, you put $0, I'm going tothrow it in the trash, even if I
think it's real.
Nathan Mumm (28:08):
So the AI, whatever AI engine, the actual
attachment that they said, eventhough I said on the email that
I owe $0, there's an attachmentthat came with it.
Marc Gregoire (28:12):
There's a PDF attachment.
Nathan Mumm (28:14):
Yeah, and the PDF attachment said that it owed $49
.
Oh, okay, so somehow maybe theyfat-fingered it in their deal
and didn't realize that itshould have been a $49.
Marc Gregoire (28:23):
They missed a four and a nine.
Mike Gorday (28:28):
And a four and a nine and they just put zero
dollars, could they?
Nathan Mumm (28:30):
have made it so.
The pdf contained a virus.
Uh, they could have made it so.
A pdf contained a virus.
This one actually didn't have apdf that did contain a virus,
um, but this is not a legitcompany that was trying to do an
invoice.
What this does do, though, andyour spam filters, is, if I let
this through and I don't flag itas spam because it's zero
dollars and I just keep it in myinbox, I just keep it in my
inbox the next time they send anemail, and the next time they
send an email, it will justautomatically come into my inbox
(28:52):
, because I haven't reallydeleted them.
There was no reason for me tonecessarily delete it because
it's $0.
So I'll just let it kind ofhold out in my inbox, which then
creates a false security.
Marc Gregoire (29:02):
Did this actually come into your inbox or did
this come into your spam folder?
No it came into my inbox.
Oh, it actually made it throughthe spam.
Nathan Mumm (29:08):
Yeah, because they've sent me a couple others
at $0 that I just kept in myinbox and I never really deleted
.
Marc Gregoire (29:19):
And so now, all of a sudden, they come in there
and when the next time they wantto charge me $60, $90 or
whatever, they're going to beright there.
So what you're?
Nathan Mumm (29:23):
recommending then is right click on and say mark
as spam.
I should, should do that, butthen I have about 2 000 unread
emails, so I'm not a very goodjob.
I I grew up in the gmail uh erawhere you could just have like
all of your uh items in yourinbox and you didn't, and you'd
star them.
You didn't have categories backin the day, you would just star
them in your inbox, and so Ideveloped the habit of of having
like 20 gig inboxes.
Oh yeah, okay, all right,continuing on, we'll talk about
(29:47):
my bad uh uh processes of myinbox yeah why not?
all right, what do you have here?
Yours is scary, mine is.
Marc Gregoire (29:56):
Yeah, I almost clicked on yours oh, okay, well,
that's why it's scary, becauseyou almost clicked on it okay it
is from yeah, 501 C3 Center CoCompany.
Mike Gorday (30:06):
Okay, with hello at my501c3centercom.
And 501 C3 is a not-for-profitClassification Classification,
and this headline says reviewand file your 990, which I am
assuming is a tax form for a 501C3.
That is correct.
Yep, hello, courtyard MediaFoundation.
(30:28):
Okay, and that is your 501c3?
.
That is correct.
Yep, hello, courtyard MediaFoundation.
Okay, and that is your 501c3?
.
That is correct.
This is a reminder that inorder to maintain the status of
501c4 Courtyard Media Foundation, the IRS requires you to file a
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Please click the link below.
So you almost did you click thelink?
Or did you almost click thelink?
Nathan Mumm (31:02):
uh, you know you always click the link to follow
the follow the scan so Iactually clicked this on my main
machine and then I had to sendit over to my other machine to
actually take a look at it.
So I did click on it and itcame on up.
This was right.
When it's like april 28th, I'mlike, okay, this is the deal,
(31:22):
what's going on here?
I looked at the quickly.
It kind of sounded like it waslegit and I did click on it.
Mike Gorday (31:30):
Yep, you got psychologically taken advantage
of.
Nathan Mumm (31:33):
I did I did Not everybody's always perfect.
Mike Gorday (31:37):
Well, that's how they get us.
They will always get us at somepoint, because at some point we
are not paying enough attention.
Nathan Mumm (31:46):
Now what I will say is that it's supposed to take
you to the IRS to get your formright.
So it took you to a mockedversion of the IRS.
Oh, they tried to fake it.
They tried to fake it, but nowthe IRS website is blue.
So if you ever go and fileanything with the United States,
almost all of the governmentalwebsites use blue as a primary
color.
So this website had yellow as aprimary color.
(32:06):
So this website had yellow as aprimary color Probably the
worst color to choose to alertsomebody when you're going to
the fake webpage and all of asudden say this does not look,
no, that sounds really good,because they just peed all over
you.
Mike Gorday (32:19):
Is that what it is?
Yeah, okay, so the that soundslike it.
That sounds like it.
Nathan Mumm (32:23):
So the website actually is what triggered me
and I go this does not lookright.
I know all government sites arenormally blue.
Now in the state of Washingtonit's very green.
So I mean we have normallycolors that are profound with
each of the states that you arein and have stuff taken care of.
Marc Gregoire (32:39):
So that was it.
Even still, after you click onthe link, couldn't you just look
if it was a gov?
Nathan Mumm (32:44):
I did look up there too, but the first thing that
came on up was it was justyellow, it was even still the
link.
Mike Gorday (32:49):
The link is just a bunch of gibberish.
Nathan Mumm (32:52):
Yep, is it's kboj-zgpm yeah, but you don't
see that link until you print itout, right?
Marc Gregoire (32:59):
so when you just see the html, that was there the
html was covered, so I did notsee that itself.
You didn't hover your mouseover it, which is a a little
trick.
Nathan Mumm (33:06):
I was in a hurry so I had some bad.
You need to listen to Tech Time.
Marc Gregoire (33:09):
Radio's letter segment.
Mike Gorday (33:11):
This is where psychology works against you.
This is what Visa is countingon.
Nathan Mumm (33:16):
You're going on that Visa thing.
Mike Gorday (33:17):
I'm just going to hang on Visa, because that's
ridiculous.
I'm going to ask you a questionabout Visa.
You already know my answer too.
I don't know my answer to it.
Nathan Mumm (33:24):
Well, I don't know your answer necessarily.
All right, here we go.
Here's mine.
Everybody, listen up to thisone, all right?
All right, odie, are you ready,because I don't know if you've
gotten this.
Have you received a packagefrom Amazon or one of your
retailers that all of a suddenhad a QR code inside of your
package and asked you to fillout a survey for them?
(33:45):
Or have you received somethingwhere you purchased from Amazon
or an online store and it had aQR code in there and it asked
you to give them feedback or togive them a rating?
Sometimes they even incentivizeyou to do this and give you
money for a positive rating.
Then all you got to do is showit to them and then boom,
they'll give you some money backon PayPal or through another
area, or receive the box thatyou did not know where it was
(34:07):
coming from, with a QR code onthe outside.
Has that happened to you?
Ody (34:13):
The only time I've ever written a review is if I really
love the product or if I reallyhate that.
Nathan Mumm (34:20):
Okay, but let me just ask you have you gotten a
QR code in a package?
You've never gotten a QR code.
Ody (34:24):
I mean probably, but I don't.
I'm not going to click.
I have.
Okay, you have, Mark, You'venever gotten a QR code.
I mean probably, but I'm notgoing to claim it.
Marc Gregoire (34:28):
I have.
Okay, you have, Mark.
Have you done it?
Absolutely?
Nathan Mumm (34:29):
Okay.
So guess what?
The newest scam that's going onis that people are actually
selling products putting inmalware in the QR codes.
So what happens is you openyour phone to give a review, you
scan it because it's getting soeasy and you just think, okay,
I've done it before and therehasn't been a problem.
So these new scammers areactually working with low-end
(34:49):
products.
So let's say, you buy a cheapheadset or you buy some cheap
knockoff iPods or some type ofspeaker system or anything a
cable.
You get that rating in there.
Now what fraudulent people aredoing is putting in QR codes
that immediately load malware onyour phones and take over your
phones when you do that QR code.
(35:10):
Huge hit that is hitting rightnow.
It is called now what it is abrushing scam.
That's this new term of abrushing scam where the thieves
essentially are giving youaccess to information, working
with the person that is actuallyselling the product, to provide
a QR code that they don'treally care about the survey
(35:30):
with, but immediately capturesyour phone.
If this happens to you and youdo scan this QR code, it will
immediately shut down your phone, brick your phone, lock your
phones or immediately sendinformation on the back end to
this third party that has anopen portal to your phone itself
.
Treat QR codes the same way youdo links now.
Mike Gorday (35:49):
What's the point of bricking somebody's phone?
Nathan Mumm (35:52):
What was the point of bricking somebody's phone
Just to cause them grief?
So it's just a griefing thing.
Just a griefing thing.
But if I am buying some cheapheadphones from China, Maybe
that's what happened to my oldphone?
Did your old phone just stopworking?
Mike Gorday (36:07):
Yeah, it just stopped working.
Did it really yeah but I don'tthink I scanned the QR code.
It could have been.
It could have been that you dida QR code.
Maybe it got bricked.
Nathan Mumm (36:16):
It could have been bricked.
So treat QR codes the same waynow.
Do not click on themimmediately on your phone.
There are new companies thatare coming up with ways to
actually have QR code antivirusprocesses that will create a
portal that will verify the QRcode is correct.
But be careful.
Mike Gorday (36:35):
At what point do we , as a culture or a race or
whatever, just go?
This is absolutely ridiculous,yeah.
Nathan Mumm (36:43):
I don't know.
So I use QR codes for a hugemarketing event that I do.
I have them all over the localtown.
Mike Gorday (36:50):
That's why they work.
They're easy, you can take themfrom away.
Nathan Mumm (36:54):
You can order tickets from it immediately.
When you just go up, you scanby it.
So mine are legit.
Now I'm worried about mymarketing.
If this gets out there now.
I'm kind of sad because I'mgoing to lose all that momentum
of what I actually have there.
Marc Gregoire (37:06):
Kind of sad because I'm going to lose all
that momentum of what I actuallyhave there, I'm gonna go dig my
virus qr code and paste itright over all your stickers.
Is that what you're?
Mike Gorday (37:13):
gonna do.
Posters, see, this is howlaziness works in your.
It works in your favor what'sthat?
You're just not.
You just I get those things andI'm like I'm not gonna do that.
You just don't feel about Ijust no I I don't, I don't, I
don't fill out.
Okay surveys, I don't, I don'tfill out.
I don't fill them out.
No, I don't fill out surveys.
I don't fill out.
I don't scan QR codes.
I'm like this is too muchcognitive load.
(37:34):
I'm not doing this.
Ody (37:36):
Yeah, I'm in the same bracket with Mike.
Nathan Mumm (37:41):
The only way that I feel like they would get me is
if you know like somebody likeMark puts a falser code on top
of the real one yeah ofsomething like a restaurant, and
then I'm screwed well, justlook at all the places you go to
and you do now do a qr code fora menu well, that's how I got
in trouble.
Mike Gorday (37:58):
That's how I got in trouble with that parking thing
yes, you did somebody had a qrcode and you scanned and I
scanned it and suddenly andsuddenly, uh, now I had to go
and get my cards changed,because they had my card numbers
Like F, this yeah, so you gotto be careful.
Nathan Mumm (38:13):
All right, that ends our positive segment we
call letters Positive, didn't?
Speaker 8 (38:17):
you have a letter.
Mike Gorday (38:20):
I just did the whole thing.
All right, there you go.
I must have missed that.
I was thinking too much.
Nathan Mumm (38:25):
You're on the AI visa kick, so let's move on to
Mike's mesmerizing moment.
Welcome to Mike's mesmerizingmoment.
What does Mike have to saytoday?
All right, mike, would you liketo have an AI bot that
purchases standard items andmanages your financial situation
?
What?
(38:45):
Do you think no, no, no, no, nono, no, because I said yes, so
I mean I that's because.
Mike Gorday (38:52):
That's because you know you're you want to flirt
with dan.
Did you ever do you?
I bet you money that you didthe uh old uh.
What are those called?
Uh, uh bng or uh bng, what wasit?
What the the CD of the Monthclubs Remember?
Speaker 8 (39:09):
those.
Nathan Mumm (39:10):
Oh, Columbia Club Columbia.
Marc Gregoire (39:12):
House.
Yes, I did that too it was fortapes back in my day.
Mike Gorday (39:15):
That's exactly what this is.
It's a modern day ColumbiaHouse thing.
Nathan Mumm (39:19):
No, I got 10 tapes for $1.
Mike Gorday (39:21):
I know.
Nathan Mumm (39:21):
And then I just had to get one tape for 12 months.
Mike Gorday (39:24):
Yeah, but then you had to pay right.
Nathan Mumm (39:26):
Yeah, so then I had to pay like $10 for 12 months,
or you had to send it back.
Mike Gorday (39:29):
So they were saying if you don't like this, send it
back.
In the mail.
Nathan Mumm (39:32):
You had to send it back within a week.
Mike Gorday (39:33):
Right and back in the postal service.
Yeah, you'd never get it backin the mail, and the point was
is that it was making it so hardfor you to send it back that
you would?
Nathan Mumm (39:41):
just roll acdc guns and roses all that and guess
what I got.
All the rest of the months Igot country.
So then, all of a sudden, I gotinto countries so, kenny
chessie, all these other type ofstuff.
Marc Gregoire (39:53):
So these are horrible services.
You're right, mark, mike Iswear.
Mike Gorday (39:57):
Yeah, this is this is this is bad.
Would I recommend this foranybody?
No, no, no.
The more, the more you don't do, the more effort you give away
to something else, yeah, themore you're going to be taken
advantage of.
I'm sorry, but that's whatthese folks are trying to do.
We spend an entire lifetimearound staving off all this
(40:21):
information that we're gettingto just live a life.
To just live a life.
You know you can't even walkthrough a day without being told
.
You know, if you don't use Tide, you're a sucker, or you know
buy this car because it's moreawesome than that car.
Marc Gregoire (40:38):
So Mike just made his point.
What's your counterpoint?
Because you actually signed upfor the service.
Nathan Mumm (40:42):
Well, as I said, I'd be a part of their beta.
Mike Gorday (40:44):
Because he's lazy in the opposite direction.
Nathan Mumm (40:47):
No, I think it'd be great to have an AI bot, don't
you think so?
Marc Gregoire (40:54):
So you signed up for the beta.
We should maybe, in a fewmonths, come back and do a
Nathan Nugget on it.
Nathan Mumm (41:00):
So my financial bot's going to be Dave.
Mike Gorday (41:03):
Ramsey, you do.
You just want me to say that onthere don't you.
Get ready on the guy.
Nathan Mumm (41:09):
Be careful on the button.
All right, I know, I was justthinking about when you were
doing.
I'm like what am I going toname my AI bot?
I had something else and let melet me like.
Mike Gorday (41:17):
Do you do auto pay?
Nathan Mumm (41:19):
I do.
Oh yes, All my stuff is on autopay go back and check your auto
pay I know.
So how is it that you don'tknow you're getting taken
advantage of?
So I'll look at the chase, uh,almost every other day, my bank
account if it looks like it'ssomething off, and I'll be like
you know that's I mean I use, Iuse auto pay for certain things,
okay, but I have to go.
Mike Gorday (41:40):
I have to go and check to make sure that I'm
being billed properly, because Iknow somewhere along the line
somebody's gonna to misbill meand I'm going to lose money
somewhere.
Nathan Mumm (41:50):
That happens, and I don't think it's accidental
either.
Let me just tell you, I got anemail from my DeLorean group
that I paid for.
Oh, I'm going to have to talkabout that.
Ody (41:59):
Alright okay.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
You know.
Thank you for that mesmerizingmoment.
Mike Gorday (42:02):
Yeah that was certainly mesmerizing.
No, don't do it.
So that was certainly All right, we're going to do it.
Nathan Mumm (42:05):
We're going to head out to a commercial break.
When we return, we have thisweek in technology, so now is a
great time to enjoy a littlewhiskey on the side, as we're
going to be doing so during thebreak.
See you in a few minutes.
Mike Gorday (42:14):
Hey, mike, yeah, what's?
Nathan Mumm (42:15):
up, hey, so you know what.
We need people to start likingour social media page.
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If you like our show, if we could use your
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Is it Patreon?
I think it's Patreon.
Okay, Patreon, if you reallylike us, you can like us in
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You know, you butcher theEnglish language all the time.
It's Patreoncom.
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Nathan Mumm (42:51):
Yeah, we're on Facebook too.
Yeah, like us on Facebook.
Do you know what our Facebookpage is?
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Speaker 1 (43:21):
And now let's look back at this week in technology.
All let's look back at thisweek in technology.
Nathan Mumm (43:28):
All right, we're going to go all the way back to
May 11th 1997.
Deep Blue defeats CasperCaspero in a chess tournament.
The IBM computer and artificialintelligence, deep Blue,
defeats reigning chess championand one of the greatest chess
players of all time, garyCaspero, in the sixth and
deciding game of the tournamentmatch, thus becoming the first
(43:50):
time a computer defeated a chesschampion in match play.
The defeat is a reigning chesschampion at the hands of
artificial intelligence, madeheadlines around the world and
marked a milestone in thedevelopment of AI and machine
learning.
From this early landmark moment, the advancement of computer
power and machine learning hascreated even early landmark
moment.
The advancement of computerpower and machine learning has
created even more powerfulartificial intelligence that can
(44:11):
perform more complex tasks inseconds versus the human brain.
Well, that was this Week inTechnology.
If you ever wanted to watchsome Tech Time history, with
over 240 plus weekly broadcastsspanning our four plus years of
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(44:31):
When we return, we have ourMark mumble whiskey review.
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The segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's
Whiskey Mumble.
Mike Gorday (45:46):
You know, Mark, how I know when Nathan's not an AI
bot.
Marc Gregoire (45:49):
Yet How's that?
How's that, Mike?
Mike Gorday (45:51):
Because he still messes things up like Garry
Kasparov.
Is it Kasparov?
Nathan Mumm (45:56):
or Kasparov.
Mike Gorday (45:57):
It's Kasparov, kasparov.
Nathan Mumm (45:59):
Are you sure?
Mike Gorday (45:59):
Yes.
Nathan Mumm (46:00):
Okay, all right, we'll see Listeners.
Mike Gorday (46:03):
That's how I know.
Nathan Mumm (46:04):
Is it Garry Kasparov or is it Garry Kasparov
?
Mike Gorday (46:07):
It's Kasparov, okay .
Nathan Mumm (46:09):
He's a Russian grandmaster.
I know that.
All right.
So you listeners, you need tosay is Nathan right or is Mike
right?
Yeah, you know who's right.
All right, let's move on to ourpick of the day, not AI, nathan
.
Marc Gregoire (46:22):
Today, May 6th, we are celebrating a day that we
are all currently celebratingright now Kasparov Day.
That would have been a goodguess.
Whiskey Day it's pretty close.
National Beverage Day oh, Ilike National Beverage Day Now.
We could not be more excitedabout National Beverage Day.
The day encourages us to sitback, relax and enjoy your
(46:44):
favorite beverage.
Beverages come in many formsand the good news is there's one
for every taste.
The only thing that matters isthat you pick up and make some
of your favorite gathering withfriends and family.
So get ready to enjoy and unwind.
Nathan Mumm (46:57):
I like some sweet tea.
A little sweet-ay, a littlesweet-ay.
Well, what Sweet-ay.
Have you ever been in the South.
They always do sweet tea likesweet-ay.
Mike Gorday (47:06):
Have you ever been in the South?
They always do sweet tea.
That's not how they say it inthe South?
Speaker 8 (47:10):
It's not sweaty.
Nathan Mumm (47:10):
It's not sweaty, a little sweaty Okay.
Marc Gregoire (47:12):
Well, in celebration today, we have four
beverages we are sipping on, andI did write with friends, but
I'm not sure right now.
Nathan Mumm (47:20):
Okay.
You guys have us all gettingliquored up, I'm going to tell
you the show gets a little bitmore of the first of the month
shows, a little bit moredegraded as we drink through all
of our shots do you have afavorite?
Marc Gregoire (47:30):
yet are you still deciding?
Nathan Mumm (47:32):
I do have a favorite.
I absolutely have a favorite.
This is my favorite right hereby far and mike, do you have a
favorite?
Marc Gregoire (47:36):
yeah?
Mike Gorday (47:37):
oh, you guys agree, we're agreeing.
So far I don't even have todrink.
Marc Gregoire (47:41):
So you guys all chose the one in the water glass
, which is yellowstone.
Special finishes collectiontoasted oh, it's from lux row,
which is now owned by mgp.
Ross and squid it's fromkentucky.
This is a finished straightbourbon, so it is toasted.
Four years, 100 proof, 52dollars.
Okay, all right.
(48:02):
And then do you have a worstone?
Yes, this shot glass.
Nathan Mumm (48:06):
I am not liking the shot glass.
Mike Gorday (48:07):
Mine's in the.
Nathan Mumm (48:09):
Yours is in reverse order.
Marc Gregoire (48:09):
Oh, okay.
Third position Well, that oneis Penelope Toasted Series.
Now, this was the one forDecember 24th.
This is the special one, okay,that they put into the wine,
okay, or into the box, okay, man, I haven't even been drinking.
Nathan Mumm (48:27):
You got a lot of drinks over there too.
Marc Gregoire (48:29):
I was thinking about all their different
favorite beverages.
Okay, all right.
So this one is also from MGPRoss and Squid.
It's distilled in Indiana, it'sa finished straight bourbon,
roughly five years, 100 proof,and this one is $70.
Nathan Mumm (48:43):
This is the most expensive one.
Okay, that's good that my tastedecided to go with the $50
bottle.
Marc Gregoire (48:49):
Did you have a close second?
Nathan Mumm (48:51):
I did.
My second would have actuallybeen here, so that would have
been the Glencairn?
Marc Gregoire (48:56):
Yep.
What about you, Mike?
That was his number two also.
Mike Gorday (48:59):
Yeah, no, this is my number two.
Nathan Mumm (49:01):
Yeah, so we're the same.
Marc Gregoire (49:02):
We're the same, yep.
Nathan Mumm (49:03):
That's my number two.
Marc Gregoire (49:04):
So that one number two was Millum and Green
Whiskies.
They're triple cask bourbon, sothis is a blend of straight
bourbons from Texas, Kentuckyand Tennessee.
Non-age stated 94 proof, $47.
Okay.
And then the one that was kindof in the middle kind of amped
for everybody.
Oh, mike's, no, Mike's.
Mike Gorday (49:30):
No, it wasn't Mike.
No, mike, no, no, that would bemy last.
I'm having trouble because theyall taste pretty good, so no,
actually the one I just readthere was mike's last.
Marc Gregoire (49:34):
Okay, okay, okay so the one in the beer glass,
yeah, which is mike's secondthat's my second, yeah and that
is my second.
Mike Gorday (49:41):
Second, yeah, that's your second okay that.
Marc Gregoire (49:43):
So.
Your second is the beer glass.
That is the wise man.
That is a blend of straightbourbons from the Stolle group.
It's a blend of four Kentuckywhiskeys four to eight years old
, 90.8 proof, $60.
Nathan Mumm (49:57):
Okay, All right, that's good to know.
We'll see what our pick of theday is, but I'm sure I'm not
changing.
All right, well, with whiskingtechnology.
Marc Gregoire (50:09):
Such a great pairing, pairing just like c3po
and r2d2.
Oh, you remember, yesterday wasrevenge of the sith day on may
5th, right?
Nathan Mumm (50:13):
so you have may 4th , then you have may 5th, revenge
of the sith, and then we havetoday the 6th.
Marc Gregoire (50:18):
Why is may 5th, besides cinco de mayo, the sith
thing?
Nathan Mumm (50:21):
well, I said, they've added it now.
So the star wars is trying tokeep on going on with different.
You've heard of of that before,haven't you Mike?
Oh yeah, okay, that's going tomake me drink.
All right, let's now preparefor our technology fail of the
week, brought to you by EliteExecutive Services.
Congratulations, you're afailure.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
Oh, I failed.
Did I yes, did I yes.
Nathan Mumm (50:44):
All right.
This week's technology failcomes to us from Uber.
Now.
Julia faced every parent'sworst nightmare when her
five-year-old daughter wasinadvertently taken away in an
Uber while sleeping in thebackseat.
Realizing the error, sheimmediately contacted Uber,
seeking to contact the driver toswiftly find her child.
However, uber refused to givecontact information, citing
(51:05):
company policy.
Instead, they required theToronto Police to submit an
official request via theiremergency disclosure form,
accessible only through thepublic safety response portal or
by email.
Now, this bureaucratic processhindered the efforts to locate
this child.
Bureaucratic.
Mike Gorday (51:22):
Bureaucratic, bureaucratic.
I actually like that one,because you know it sounds like
necrotic.
Okay, there you go, although.
Nathan Mumm (51:29):
Uber was unwillingly to provide direct
help.
Toronto police managed to tracethe driver through other
channels.
Upon arrival, the officer foundthe child safe but
understandably distressed.
The girl had been unknowinglytransported about 20 miles away
from her initial drop-off point.
Now Julia, the mom, feltrelieved but enraged by Uber's
lack of immediate support.
(51:51):
Now, as compensation, uberoffered a $10 credit, which
Julia deemed deeply insulting.
Now Uber justified his actionsby stating that his policies
aimed to protect the privacy ofboth riders and drivers.
Nonetheless, critics claim theincident exposed to significant
flaw in emergency responseprocedures within the gig
(52:11):
economy, when efficiency oftencomes at the expense of customer
service.
Now, technology analyst CamryLevy pointed out that
traditional transportationservices usually have direct
customer support systems, whilecompanies like Uber depend on
strict protocols that cancomplicate the urgent situation.
Julia has since intensified herefforts, demanding policy
(52:32):
reforms that would ensure uberprioritizes the safety of minors
in similar circumstances.
She asserts that no financialcompensation would have been
adequate without theimplementation of a clear
emergency protocol to preventsimilar occursions for their
families.
Sue Alright, so what do youthink there?
So, odie, what are you sayingthere?
Ody (52:52):
Okay, I am not blaming the mom at all.
I want that to be very clear.
Okay, but Uber does not allowminors to ride alone.
Nathan Mumm (53:01):
Okay, they wouldn't call it.
Ody (53:05):
There's a policy, there's a policy and they just started
doing it with teens, that teenscan now ride alone or have their
own accounts.
So I don't know about you, butI wouldn't let a five-year-old
alone in somebody's car bythemselves.
Mike Gorday (53:20):
Okay, so she wasn't unloading.
That's what happened.
Nathan Mumm (53:23):
She was unloading, she forgot that her kid was in
the back.
Oh, she forgot.
Marc Gregoire (53:30):
She did, she forgot the kid, did she forget?
Mike Gorday (53:31):
or did she just unload and then they just took
off?
Well, according to what I read,they were discussing about how
to move all these groceries, orwhatever and get the kid and the
Uber driver just took off.
Ody (53:41):
Yes, then I take it back.
Mike Gorday (53:43):
Okay, take it back.
Okay.
So okay, that's fine, okay takeit back Okay.
Ody (53:48):
So okay, that's fine.
Speaker 8 (53:50):
Oh, wow.
Nathan Mumm (53:50):
Although still, if you're an Uber driver, this is
what I would say you shouldn'tbe leaving, and if you have to
go 20 miles until you realizeyou have somebody in your
backseat.
Mike Gorday (53:59):
Well a sleeping kid is pretty quiet.
Ody (54:01):
Yeah, also, they're a five-year-old, so they're pretty
small.
Depending how you're sitting,are you going to be able to see
them in the rear view?
Nathan Mumm (54:08):
mirror.
I would expect as an Uberdriver, you always check to make
sure somebody leaves your deal.
Mike Gorday (54:13):
The whole situation is not the problem.
The problem is where thebureaucratic policies come into
play.
Yeah, it should have been $20.
Nathan Mumm (54:21):
It should have been $20.
Mike Gorday (54:23):
That's.
The real problem is that itshould have been $20 instead of
$10.
That's the real problem is thatit should have been 20 bucks
instead of 10 bucks.
No, it's the bureaucraticnonsense that went into play.
The woman called told Uber thattheir five-year-old daughter
was still in this car and theywere like well, company policy
tells me that you have to callthe police and the police have
to do this and that and this andthat.
Ody (54:44):
I understand where they're coming from, though, because
they're covering their own.
Nathan Mumm (54:49):
And their driver.
Right, they don't want the.
Ody (54:50):
You can just get a driver and I understand that, but this
is a child, this is an emergencysituation, that there should be
policies that supersede thesenonsense privacy things.
Nathan Mumm (55:03):
Yeah, Okay, all right.
Now let's move on to ourtechnology fail of the week.
Ody (55:09):
we we just did that.
I'm sorry.
Nathan Mumm (55:11):
I'm sorry our nathan nugget, sorry, I I'm
thinking our nathan.
You're celebrating beverage daynathan's been celebrating
beverage day a little bit longerthan he should thanks.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
Let's move to our nathan nugget this is your
nugget of the week I got a lotof whiskey in me, all right.
Nathan Mumm (55:25):
The recent publication of a deeply flawed
AI-generated diagram in arespected scientific journal
underscores a troubling reality.
Now we've had James on and hetalked about this, so this is
going back to James on our showsa couple months ago Now the
increasing risk of errors inacademic research due to
unchecked artificialintelligence.
(55:47):
Now the journal Frontiers inCell and Development Biology had
to retract a paper afterdiscovering that it contained a
biological inaccurateillustration of a rat, one with
bizarre distortion includingfour testicles and non-sensual
labels.
Now this incident is more thanjust an embarrassing mistake.
(56:08):
It reflects a growing concernin the scientific community.
Ai-generated content is rapidlymaking its way into research,
but without proper oversight itthreatens to undermine the
credibility of medicalliterature.
Scientific journals serve asthe cornerstone of knowledge,
guiding medical advancementtreatments and public health
decisions.
When errors like this slipthrough the cracks, this casts a
(56:29):
doubt on the reliability ofpeer review studies and
highlights the danger ofover-reliance on automation
without human verification.
All right In our role of AI.
we had a medical journal, andyet it had a rat.
That wasn't even a rat.
The rat actually was sitting upin a chair.
Um, it was an AI generated.
Mike Gorday (56:51):
It was an.
Nathan Mumm (56:51):
AI generated rat with uh four, four uh man parts
that were that were included inthe diagram and then it was also
mislabeled and this got peerreviewed and published into our
large language model systemsacross our ai platforms.
Mike Gorday (57:11):
Okay, all right.
So what I said?
Let's do a technology fair.
I have to ask an obviousquestion here.
Yeah, you're ranting about arat with four nuts getting put
on a scientific journal, right,and how bad that is.
Yeah, and yet you're going toallow Visa to pay your bills.
You can't get off that.
Nathan Mumm (57:28):
Visa thing.
I'm not going to get off that.
That Visa thing is going to beyour new.
I got it.
Anytime I need something.
Odie, you're going to have toreclip this show Anytime I need
something.
I'm just going to say how doyou feel about your?
Mike Gorday (57:39):
Visa AI.
Can you just say rat with fourballs not run fast, okay.
Nathan Mumm (57:54):
The other problem with that too, with the large,
large language models, is that's, that's compounding, because
you can't just go there and pullthat data out.
Marc Gregoire (57:56):
No, because once it gets published, and it gets
replicated, and replicated, andreplicated, unless you were to
start completely over.
And that's the problem withthese large language models, I
have problems with them yeahbecause we're not starting over
and so these issues just keepcompounding and compounding.
Yep, all right, it's like avirus.
Nathan Mumm (58:07):
So now you're going to have pictures all online,
that's correct, all online ofrats with four balls.
All right, there you go.
Let's move on to our pick ofthe day whiskey tasting.
Speaker 1 (58:18):
And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings
.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop.
Marc Gregoire (58:26):
All right, we are doing our Flavor calendar round
five and I question whether youguys are connoisseurs or not,
but I will say I was tasting andmy number one is both your
number one, wow.
Nathan Mumm (58:39):
Look at that, and not only that my order is
exactly Mike's order.
Marc Gregoire (58:43):
So, mike, you are the connoisseur of today.
Oh wow, there you go.
So number one was in the waterglass.
Nathan Mumm (58:49):
Yep.
Marc Gregoire (58:50):
The Yellowstone Special Finishes Collection
Toasted Number two, which is inthe beer glass, the Wise man,
which is a blend of straightbourbons.
Four Number three was PenelopeToasted Series in the shot glass
and that is finished straightbourbon.
And the fourth one, whichactually is my thumbs down of
(59:12):
all of them was the Milam andGreen.
Triple Cast Bourbon in theGlencairn.
Nathan Mumm (59:17):
So give a thumbs up for everybody, but the last one
.
The last one should be a thumbsup A thumbs up, a thumbs up.
Mike Gorday (59:22):
What about?
Marc Gregoire (59:23):
for you.
Any thumbs down for you, Mike?
Mike Gorday (59:25):
I didn't have any real thumbs down I?
What about for you?
Any thumbs down for you?
Mike, I didn't have any realthumbs down.
I kind of liked all of them.
Nathan Mumm (59:29):
Okay, but you know, all right, all right, guys.
Lots of whiskey today, lots ofcraziness.
Thank you so much, listeners,for joining our program.
Remember the science oftomorrow starts with the
technology of today.
We will see you next week Later.
Bye-bye.
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Nathan Mumm (01:49):
Ah, that music makes me feel so good.
All right, welcome to Tech TimeRadio.
This week, we're going to breakdown the biggest technology
stories of the week and exposethe trends shaping our digital
future.
Today, we're diving into amajor court ruling that could
shake Apple's grip on the AppStore.
What does this mean fordevelopers and your wallet Plus?
Openai CEO Sam Altman hassomething to say about those
(02:11):
polite prompts to AI.
Could your manners be costingmillions Then?
Visa is pushing AI beyondsimple chatbots into managing
your finances, but how muchcontrol should we give these
digital assistants?
And in our letter segment,we're unveiling some of the
latest scams hitting inboxes andmessages submitted by listeners
like you.
(02:32):
In addition to that, of course,we have our standard features,
including Mike's mesmerizingmoment, our technology fail the
day and our Nathan nugget.
But the most important part,our pick of the day whiskey
tasting.
Where we selected pick, willeither get zero, one or two
thumbs up by our pick of the daywhiskey tasting, where we
selected pick.
We'll either get zero, one ortwo thumbs up by the end of the
show.
This is our what do we say?
Top of the month tasting.
(02:52):
So that means we're going tohave a lot of alcohol that Mark
will come on in here and he'llexplain what we got going on
here, so it looks like we havefour tastings that we get to
sample today, so four shots.
Considering all that's going on, I think a couple more shots
would be even better.
Now, though, let's move on tothe latest headlines in the
world technology here are ourtop technology stories of the
(03:17):
week all right, a judge justblew up apple's control of the
app store.
The judge in vs Apple has bannedApple from charging a
commission on purchases madeoutside of the App Store itself.
Let's go to Lisa Walker formore on this story.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Judge Yvonne Gonzalez-Rogers just ruled that,
effective immediately, apple isno longer allowed to collect
fees on purchases made outsidethe app's software program and
blocks the company fromrestricting how developers can
point users.
Apple says it will appeal theorder.
The ruling was issued as partof Epic Games' ongoing legal
(03:55):
dispute against Apple.
Rogers also says that Applewillfully chose not to comply
with her previous injunctionfrom her original 2021 ruling.
Apple thought this court wouldtolerate such insubordination
was a gross miscalculation, shesaid.
The judge also referred thecase to the US attorney to
review it for possible criminalcontempt proceedings.
(04:16):
An apple a day keeps thelawyers in play.
Nathan Mumm (04:20):
Back to you guys in the studio play back to you
guys in the studio, all right.
So, according to, the judge hasstated that apple is prohibited
from one imposing anycommissions or fees on purchases
that consumers make outside anapp.
So that means, if you have anapp and this is really going to
epic and fortnite, this is wherethis battle originally started
(04:43):
and if, if you want to domicrotransactions in Fortnite
this is what Epic was sayingthey used to send them to Epic
store.
They would buy it at the Epicstore itself and then it would
be a part of your character.
Apple currently, until thisinjunction again happened, would
charge a fee for anybody thatwould do a purchase within the
Apple environment itself.
(05:03):
Now they're also restrictingdeveloper style formatting or
placement of links for off apppurchases.
They can't do that.
So before, if you were tryingto submit an app and you said,
hey, come visit us online, thenthey would say we're not going
to publish you in the app store,blocking or limiting the use of
buttons or other calls toaction in the games.
So if you're're in a game andyou want to buy something, you
(05:24):
can buy it immediately,interfering with consumers'
ability to leave an app beyondproviding a natural message
apprising users that they'regoing to a third-party site.
So Olivia Dalton, apple's SeniorDirector of Corporate
Communications, issued astatement asserting we strongly
disagree with the decision, butwe will comply with the court's
orders and we will appeal Now.
(05:45):
Disagree with the decision, butwe will comply with the court's
orders and we will appeal now.
Tim sweeney, ceo of epic games,announced that, in light of
their ruling, fortnight will bereturning to the us app store
next week.
Additionally, sweeney haspresented a peace proposal, a
peace proposal from epic.
If apple extends the court'sfriction-free, apple tax-free
framework worldwide will returnfortnight to the app store
worldwide and drop current andfuture litigations on the topic.
(06:06):
So essentially, they're sayingif you keep with what the judge
has ruled and this is the secondtime now they've gone to this
judge so that she ruled.
First time it was illegal appleapple did nothing.
They went back and they talkedabout it and tim cook's decision
making why should apple doanything?
so they said, screw it, we'renot going to do anything.
And so they went to the secondtime.
So Epic says, hey, we'll dropthis lawsuit.
(06:28):
I think Apple will absolutelylose the Epic lawsuit.
I think it will be in themillions to billions of dollars
that will be rewarded to Epicfor this lawsuit in itself.
They said that we'll stop rightnow if you just let us publish
the deal.
Now Apple takes 30% in apppurchases.
(06:48):
So this is right now if youorder something for $10, you're
paying $13 for the item itself.
$10 only goes to the actualprovider of the utility that
would be available, and fordoing absolutely nothing, apple
gets their 30%.
This has now been removed.
Now Apple instituted a policyrequiring developers to pay a
(07:10):
27% commissions on thosetransactions.
So they collect 30% from theperson and then, with the number
that they have so think of thisas $10, then $2.70 has to be
paid by the company.
So they're making $3 on thetransaction.
$2.70 has to be paid by thecompany, so they're making $3 on
the transaction $2.70.
So when you're all said anddone for a $13 transaction, the
(07:32):
actual provider of the contentthat you're getting is getting
less than $7 total in thetransaction that's available
there.
So I believe this marks asignificant shift for Apple and
its future business practices.
Moving forward, do you thinkthat Apple should be able to
charge companies to do whatthey're doing?
Mike Gorday (07:49):
Well, I don't know.
Nathan Mumm (07:53):
I think you're both kind of 50-50.
Mike Gorday (07:55):
This just goes back into what is ethical and
necessary and how thesebillionaire companies are
getting away with ripping offanybody they can rip off, right,
yeah, does they're doing it?
You know, meta's doing it,amazon's doing it, everybody's
doing it.
Yeah.
And you know it's kind of funnythat we keep reporting on these
(08:20):
court cases and apple's justlike throwing up the middle
finger.
Nathan Mumm (08:25):
Yeah, Like okay thanks for your decision, but
we're not changing a darn thing,all right.
Mike Gorday (08:30):
All right, I think she was a little peeved by that.
Nathan Mumm (08:32):
She was.
She is very so.
This is the wrong judge to have, and the continuing I mean.
So she decided to send it up acourt for criminal
investigations.
That does not happen.
So that for criminalinvestigations.
That does not happen.
So this judge is so messed up.
Mike Gorday (08:45):
I don't think the judge is messed up.
She's so pissed off.
I think you know we talk aboutit quite a bit, but these
companies, these huge megacorporations, are running
roughshod over a lot of thingsand they should be held
accountable.
Nathan Mumm (09:04):
I agree.
All right, you got story numbertwo.
Mike Gorday (09:05):
Hopefully it's a little bit nicer I don't know
okay did you know that sayingplease and thank you to chat gpt
wastes millions of dollars?
I did not know that.
Yeah, explain more.
Apparently that is true.
Sam altman, the ceo of open ai,recently stated that users
courteous behavior towards aichatbots, such as saying please
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and thank you, cost the companymillions of dollars.
Nathan Mumm (09:29):
Okay.
Mike Gorday (09:30):
When a user on X questioned how much OpenAI loses
because of these polite actions, Altman replies that it totals
tens of millions of dollars wellspent.
Nathan Mumm (09:40):
Okay.
Mike Gorday (09:41):
Although treating an AI chatbot with courtesy may
seem trivial, experts believethat politeness influences AI
interactions.
Curtis Beaver's Microsoftdesign manager, suggested
employing respectful languagewhen communicating with AI helps
generate respectfulcollaborative outputs.
Essentially, polite requestsestablish a tone for responses
that can lead to more effectiveand professional exchanges for
responses that can lead to moreeffective and professional
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exchanges.
A recent survey conducted inlate 2024 found that 67% of AI
users in the US reported beingpolite to their chatbots.
Among these users, 55% said itwas because it's the right thing
to do, while 12% did so toappease the algorithm in case of
a potential AI uprising.
(10:24):
Okay, all right.
Though the idea of AI rebellingin the future may seem humorous,
the environmental consequencesof such interactions are very
real.
A study by the University ofCalifornia in the Washington
Post revealed that creating asimple 100-word email using AI
requires 0.14 kilowatt hours ofelectricity, which is enough to
(10:48):
power 14 LED lights for one hour.
If someone sent oneAI-generated email each week for
an entire year, that would use7.5 kilowatts of energy,
approximately equal to theenergy consumed by nine
households in Washington DC forone hour.
Given the enormous number ofprompts and queries that an AI
handles daily, the total energyconsumption soon becomes
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astounding.
Data centers that support thesechatbots account for around 2%
of the global energy usage, andthis figure is projected to
increase significantly as AIbecomes further integrated into
everyday life.
Sam Altman stands by hisassertion that being polite is
worth tens of millions ofdollars, emphasizing that the
price tag pales in comparison tothe value of old-fashioned
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courtesy.
Nathan Mumm (11:36):
All right.
So let me ask you about thatwhen you are working with,
because you use AI.
You said you use AI to help youout Do you say thank you to it.
Mike Gorday (11:44):
I don't do it.
I say thank you to Alexa whenshe does what I need her to do.
Nathan Mumm (11:50):
Okay, so you say thank you.
Mike Gorday (11:51):
Yeah, it's just kind of ingrained in me.
I don't do it when I'm typingout things.
Marc Gregoire (11:56):
All right.
Mike Gorday (11:57):
That doesn't make any sense to me.
Nathan Mumm (11:59):
Well, sometimes it prompts you back.
Is this the right response?
Mike Gorday (12:09):
And so I always respond yes, thank you.
So I don't for some reason Idon't translate it like that
when I'm talking to the freakingAlexa thing and she does what I
need her to do.
Nathan Mumm (12:14):
It's imposed like a voice, so you think it's kind
of like a person.
Mike Gorday (12:17):
Well, yeah, yeah, it's kind of like that.
You know, thanks, thanks, alexa.
Oh, and she'll say you'rewelcome, yeah, you know, thanks.
Thanks, alexa.
Oh, and she'll.
She'll say you're welcome.
Yeah, you know.
And then when she doesn't dowhat I want her to and I call
her all kinds of bad names shejust makes a funny sound and
turns off wow, okay, wow, I'venever really got after my alexa
(12:37):
a whole lot I?
I do all the time because I askher, I ask her queries and her
answer is like I don't have theanswer to that question.
Why the hell do you exist?
Nathan Mumm (12:47):
Okay, turn on your lights.
Mike Gorday (12:49):
I do it with my phone and my car too.
You know, I'm driving aroundand I'm trying to do things with
my phone.
I've said things to it that itlike comes back with like little
things that say you know, justbecause I'm an AI chat bot
doesn't mean I can't be hurt bythese words wow, you must be,
you must be going after your aichatbots a lot.
Nathan Mumm (13:07):
Huh yeah, okay, I guess is that is that pent-up
energy you get to get out on theai.
Mike Gorday (13:12):
But I figure when they take over, I need to be
taken out as fast as possible,so I don't end up being a slave
all right, this is a story forod here.
Nathan Mumm (13:20):
story number three visa wants to give artificial
intelligence agency yourpocketbook.
Now, these agents are designedto be more advanced.
This is something that Visa isdoing.
Agents are designed to be moreadvanced than just chatbots.
The tech sector has dedicatedmonths to promoting AI personal
assistance, capable ofunderstanding your needs and
performing tasks on your behalf.
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Visa aims to change this byintegrating your credit card
with these AI agents.
By setting a budget andpreferences, these AI successors
to chat, gpt and other chatbotscould help you find and
purchase items such as a sweater, weekly groceries or even your
airplane tickets.
Now, last week, visa announced apartnership with several
leading AI chat developers,including US companies,
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anthropic Microsoft, openai,perplexity and France's Mistral,
to connect their AI systemswith Visa's payment network.
Visa is also collaborating withIBM, online payment firm Stripe
and phone manufacturer Samsungon this initiative.
Now, the pilot projects willcommence in the next couple of
weeks, with a broader rolloutanticipated over the year.
(14:24):
Now the San Francisco paymentcompany believes that this will
be the futuristic way of makingpurchases, so we're already kind
of doing this, if you thinkabout it, with Apple Pay that
effectively turns your phonesinto a credit card.
Now think of similar vettingprocess for digital credentials
that would empower AI agents tooperate on the customer's behalf
, assuring buyers, banks andmerchants that transactions are
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genuine and that Visa will thenmanage any disputes.
Visa doesn't imply AI agentswill fully take over the
shopping experience.
However, they might take overtasks for some tedious, like
grocery shopping, home bills,home improvement items or even
maybe Christmas lists, but otheritems considered to be a little
bit more complicated will stillencourage people to purchase
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luxury goods, entertainment andother items that customers wish
to fully engage with thedecision-making process.
Are you concerned about creditcards taking over in purchasing?
Now let's just talk about whatthe Federal Reserve came on out,
saying that over America rightnow, the consumer balance on
credit cards has reached $1.21trillion of debt that is owed
(15:34):
out there on credit cards.
Would you turn your AI bot overand let them purchase and
manage your budget?
Well, that's a lot of dead airthere.
All right, what are youthinking?
no what you would say no thatthat feels so weird well, so
this is.
Mike Gorday (15:53):
This is what's happening would you, would you,
would you allow an ai chatbot touh?
Ody (16:00):
does that mean that they're looking into everything that
I'm doing and they know what Ibought, so they'll even so they
will suggest for you.
Nathan Mumm (16:06):
And on ways to save money, they'll suggest for you
I understand that part okay, sonow I use bill pay, so let me
just say and then, and thenit'll buy your groceries for you
yeah I don't like that apple,so we use apple pay.
I use apple pay all the time somy phone is now a credit card
with apple pay yeah I do do alot of online bill pay stuff.
(16:30):
I think most of us do onlinebill pay, so what's the
difference of just having an AIbot take over your bill paying
processes?
Mike Gorday (16:35):
Well, let's see Visa being a for-profit company.
Maybe the more that they buyfor you, the more they make.
Well, yes, so this is tocompete with cryptocurrency.
Nathan Mumm (16:47):
This is Visa's attack on cryptocurrency,
because cryptocurrency isgaining popularity I've now I I
was.
I was down at the localkroger's here.
You know you can now pay foryour groceries on both ethereum
and bitcoin.
No, that is now an option tocheck out.
You got cash, but that's what.
Mike Gorday (17:03):
That's what that was designed to do right it is
it's designed to eventually getrid of regular currency.
Nathan Mumm (17:10):
That is so.
Kroger now has an option whereI can actually literally put in
a bit.
Now I didn't do all the workfor it and I've heard that it's
just cumbersome because you haveto know your password, you have
to know what your transactionis.
But soon, if Apple Pay comes upwith cryptocurrency holding and
I just go there and I haveApple Pay, comes up with
cryptocurrency holding and Ijust go there and I have Apple
Pay, I put my phone up there.
Cryptocurrency pays for it.
Boom.
(17:31):
Now Visa is making no moremoney on the transaction.
Credit card companies disappearin seconds.
Mike Gorday (17:35):
So why not create an indentured servitude thing
where Visa controls all yourmoney?
And yeah, that's not wherethat's going.
Ody (17:46):
Every day we get closer to Black Mirror, we do.
That's all where that's goingEvery day we get closer to Black
Mirror.
Nathan Mumm (17:49):
We do.
Ody (17:49):
Like that's all I'm thinking about.
I don't remember what theepisode is called, but there's
an episode where they basicallytake a tiny version of yourself
and then keep them trapped inyour head and it's your own
personal assistant.
That's what I'm thinking aboutin this whole sense.
Every day we're getting closerto that yeah, well, you know
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it's not.
Mike Gorday (18:11):
You know, this is something that seems innocuous
when you first hear about it,because of saying, well, we're
just going to do what you'realready doing with these other
companies.
But pretty soon it'll be like,hey, you'll get a message and
hey, we noticed that you buydiet coke every other week.
Do you want us to go ahead anddo that for you automatically?
Ody (18:31):
yeah, sure I don't want so it's called the memory device
green.
Nathan Mumm (18:36):
That's what it was called.
That little yeah, that was inthere yeah that was what it was.
Yeah, so I see, that'sterrifying I I, I, I'm actually
kind of okay with it.
I would actually probably beone of the early adopters of
that.
Really yeah, because I alreadyhave all my credit cards.
They're already getting paidfor my Comcast.
Mike Gorday (18:53):
They're already getting paid for StreamYard
Nathan's kissing up to the AI.
I understand in the sense ofbill pay.
Ody (19:00):
It'd be something like not having to think but making
purchases on its own based on myhistory.
I would hate that but helpingme Manage what I'm doing.
Nathan Mumm (19:11):
Do you like shopping, though I hate shopping
.
I think, as an early adopter ofhating shopping, maybe that's
the key.
Go buy me a new sweater everythree months, when I need a new
sweater.
Mike Gorday (19:22):
Who does?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
that what.
Ody (19:25):
I use.
Nathan Mumm (19:25):
Stitch Fix, I get all my new clothes.
Ody (19:28):
Yeah, because you hate shopping, I do, so this is ideal
for you.
Mike Gorday (19:30):
That's why you look like a slob all the time.
Nathan Mumm (19:32):
I know.
Come on, my guy from New Yorkpicked this out.
This looks fantastic.
Mike Gorday (19:37):
Yeah, but that's a person.
It looks fantastic on amannequin.
I don't know, if to be a person.
This is just surreal, man, yeah, okay.
Nathan Mumm (19:49):
Well, that ends our top technology stories of the
week.
Next we dive into our letters?
Mike Gorday (19:54):
When are you going to just have the AI just take
over your slot here?
On the thing, just set up aspeaker.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
There's no way.
Mike Gorday (20:01):
He could just make bad grammar Wow.
Nathan Mumm (20:06):
We're going to dive into our letter segment next,
featuring scams submitted bylisteners and some studio
selected issues.
Be sure you're listening andshare this segment with a friend
.
Get ready as we hit 88 milesper hour on our way to the next
segment.
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Nathan Mumm (21:09):
All right, welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan
Mumm.
Our weekly show covers the toptechnology stories without any
political agenda.
We verify the facts and we dealwith the sense of humor in less
than 60 minutes and, of course,with a little whiskey on the
side.
Today, mark Gregoire our TodayMark Gregoire, our whiskey
connoisseur, our residentchatbot is in studio and has our
monthly tradition Mark explainto us what we're doing with this
(21:30):
whiskey at the beginning of themonth, for all of the new
listeners.
Marc Gregoire (21:34):
Yeah, today we're doing the 2024 Flavor Advent
Calendar and this is our roundfive.
So we're using the AdventCalendar with 24 remarkable
whiskeys to use for a year-longblind whiskey competition to see
which one Nathan and Mike likebest.
I got two that I really like onthis.
Today is round five, where theywill choose their winner to
(22:03):
move on to the semifinals.
If they disagree, I will be thedeciding vote.
Nathan Mumm (22:09):
Oh boy, okay.
So this is group five.
How many preliminary rounds dowe have?
Six, six, okay.
So after next month, when weget into June, we'll then start
moving our way until we get intoa winner.
All right, I like two of thesea lot.
Marc Gregoire (22:27):
Let me tell you a little about today.
Our samples are all bourbons.
However, they're a mixture ofblended straight bourbons and
toasted finished bourbons.
Now, a blended straight bourbonis a blend of two or more
straight bourbons, possibly fromdifferent states or
distilleries, but without anyadded neutral spirits, flavors
or coloring.
Toasted finished bourbons arebourbons that undergo a
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secondary maturation in toastedbarrels, often following initial
aging in a traditional charredoak barrel.
This process, this finishingprocess, imparts unique, often
sweeter, more dessert-likeflavors to the whiskey.
Nathan Mumm (23:04):
Okay, you know, I like two of these a lot.
So are two of these toasted.
Marc Gregoire (23:07):
So are two of these toasted two are toasted
and two are blended I think Ilove the toasted.
I think I have two of thetoasted oh well, let's see, wish
, wish, wish two, so this oneand this one, so that's the
water glass.
Yeah, that one is a toastedokay, and what's the other one?
The glen karen.
That one is a blend.
(23:29):
Oh, that's a blend yeah, one ofeach.
Nathan Mumm (23:31):
Oh no, okay, I thought I was getting the toast.
I'm starting to.
I'm starting to buy a lot oftoast, all right, well you
certainly are toasted.
Mike Gorday (23:39):
Is that what you said?
Marc Gregoire (23:40):
I'm gonna be toasted well, let all our
listeners and viewers out theredon't forget to like and
subscribe.
Drink responsibly, especiallywhen you're doing a lot of
whiskey tasting, because heavencan wait all right, mark.
Nathan Mumm (23:51):
Thanks so much.
All right, with our firstwhiskey tasting completed, let's
move on to our feature segment.
Today we bring back the funnyyet informative reading of
emails that I received duringthe week.
This includes scam, phishingemails, texting scams and
all-out mistruths disguised aslegitimate emails in a segment
we call Letters.
Ody (24:08):
Letters.
We get letters.
We get back, back, back thoseletters.
Marc Gregoire (24:14):
Oh, letters, we get letters, and the letters all
have fun.
Nathan Mumm (24:23):
All right, as we go around, we go around the table,
we start with Odie first, thenwe'll go Mark, then we'll go
Mike and then we'll go myself.
Now let me just tell you I I'mgonna be a little different
today.
I don't actually have a letter,but I'm gonna be talking about
a brand new scam that is hittingthe markets.
So that's kind of my my gig.
But let's start with you first,od.
What do you have there?
Ody (24:38):
um, I have something that says site scan okay schedule
this.
Wow, the scheduled site scan.
Found one issue with scanningand it says g saga me, expo me,
expocom okay okay, novulnerabilities, wordpress, and
then it gives you some fun thing.
What action should I take?
(24:58):
Go pro now or get solidsecurity pro all right, so so
this is a standard.
Nathan Mumm (25:06):
So if you have a website yeah, if you own a
website and you use a wordwebsite, which is, like now, 95%
of the market and 4% is likeWix, and then there's like 1% of
custom HTML If you have aWordPress site, what happens is
there's plugins that you loadand a lot of them are security
related and a lot of them tellyou when something's wrong or
(25:26):
when something's right.
It's really interesting rightnow with ChatGPT, because you
can actually just go to ChatGPTand ask them to write you a
WordPress plugin, and it's about80 to 90% inclusive of making
sure that that app actuallyworks.
So you don't even have to nowdownload these pre-done apps or
pay somebody for these, becauseyou can actually have ChatGPT or
Grok or some AI actually go andcreate code for you and, boom,
(25:48):
it's ready to go.
But this is a scam.
Specifically on a WordPresssite that I had once set up, it
looks like there's some securityvulnerabilities.
As soon as I start looking intoit, they start saying that I
have more vulnerabilities, morevulnerabilities, and as you keep
on clicking and clicking andclicking, there's different
software packages that will helpcorrect and make my site safer.
(26:09):
So not only does it tell me tobuy one software, it tells me to
buy a second software and athird software and a fourth
software to keep the site upwhen really there is absolutely
nothing wrong with the site tobegin with.
So it's all kind of a scaretactic.
Looks really good.
You don't ever want to haveyour website vulnerable.
So you're going to click on,give me more information, and
(26:29):
what happens is when you go andyou start clicking on it, they
start selling you other items.
Now they're not actuallymalicious.
That's what I was wondering.
They're not malicious items,but you don't need these items
to fix your site.
Your site is still fine.
They're just giving you a falsepositive warning the placebo
effect yes.
Mike Gorday (26:45):
False positive warning placebo effect yes.
What happens when visa startsbuying those things for you?
Nathan Mumm (26:48):
the plugins for.
Mike Gorday (26:50):
Uh, yeah, I don't know if they're gonna do that
thing you know you have like 80000 plugins and you can't figure
out where it is and visa's likesmiling also, it's important to
note that, looking at the emailitself, it looks like a legit
email it's pretty close.
Nathan Mumm (27:03):
Right now it looks like a security email other than
the fact that it's g saga meexpocom yeah so it's kind of a
site.
It was a site that I actuallyhave purchased on godaddy, so
they knew that I have the site.
I don't have anything runningon that site, so they shouldn't
have expected that.
So the thing is is great scam.
I don't have anything on thatsite.
So when you're trying to tellme there's vulnerabilities, I
(27:24):
don't have anything.
That's just a parked domainsite.
But still their actual effortworked pretty good to.
If you had that site and thatsite was actually being used, I
think I would have clicked on itand done a couple purchases.
All right, mark, we'll go toyou next what does your letter
have?
Marc Gregoire (27:38):
mine is pretty lame oh wow, now, now.
Nathan Mumm (27:41):
Now, now he doesn't like.
Marc Gregoire (27:43):
Okay, hang on now it's lame from the spammers.
Okay, let Let me tell you so.
It came from Citricom Billing,aka OmniNet, and it says it's an
invoice.
And it says Dear Nathan Mum,the attached invoice number blah
, blah, blah, for $0 is due.
Well, you put $0, I'm going tothrow it in the trash, even if I
think it's real.
Nathan Mumm (28:08):
So the AI, whatever AI engine, the actual
attachment that they said, eventhough I said on the email that
I owe $0, there's an attachmentthat came with it.
Marc Gregoire (28:12):
There's a PDF attachment.
Nathan Mumm (28:14):
Yeah, and the PDF attachment said that it owed $49
.
Oh, okay, so somehow maybe theyfat-fingered it in their deal
and didn't realize that itshould have been a $49.
Marc Gregoire (28:23):
They missed a four and a nine.
Mike Gorday (28:28):
And a four and a nine and they just put zero
dollars, could they?
Nathan Mumm (28:30):
have made it so.
The pdf contained a virus.
Uh, they could have made it so.
A pdf contained a virus.
This one actually didn't have apdf that did contain a virus,
um, but this is not a legitcompany that was trying to do an
invoice.
What this does do, though, andyour spam filters, is, if I let
this through and I don't flag itas spam because it's zero
dollars and I just keep it in myinbox, I just keep it in my
inbox the next time they send anemail, and the next time they
send an email, it will justautomatically come into my inbox
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, because I haven't reallydeleted them.
There was no reason for me tonecessarily delete it because
it's $0.
So I'll just let it kind ofhold out in my inbox, which then
creates a false security.
Marc Gregoire (29:02):
Did this actually come into your inbox or did
this come into your spam folder?
No it came into my inbox.
Oh, it actually made it throughthe spam.
Nathan Mumm (29:08):
Yeah, because they've sent me a couple others
at $0 that I just kept in myinbox and I never really deleted
.
Marc Gregoire (29:19):
And so now, all of a sudden, they come in there
and when the next time they wantto charge me $60, $90 or
whatever, they're going to beright there.
So what you're?
Nathan Mumm (29:23):
recommending then is right click on and say mark
as spam.
I should, should do that, butthen I have about 2 000 unread
emails, so I'm not a very goodjob.
I I grew up in the gmail uh erawhere you could just have like
all of your uh items in yourinbox and you didn't, and you'd
star them.
You didn't have categories backin the day, you would just star
them in your inbox, and so Ideveloped the habit of of having
like 20 gig inboxes.
Oh yeah, okay, all right,continuing on, we'll talk about
(29:47):
my bad uh uh processes of myinbox yeah why not?
all right, what do you have here?
Yours is scary, mine is.
Marc Gregoire (29:56):
Yeah, I almost clicked on yours oh, okay, well,
that's why it's scary, becauseyou almost clicked on it okay it
is from yeah, 501 C3 Center CoCompany.
Mike Gorday (30:06):
Okay, with hello at my501c3centercom.
And 501 C3 is a not-for-profitClassification Classification,
and this headline says reviewand file your 990, which I am
assuming is a tax form for a 501C3.
That is correct.
Yep, hello, courtyard MediaFoundation.
(30:28):
Okay, and that is your 501c3?
.
That is correct.
Yep, hello, courtyard MediaFoundation.
Okay, and that is your 501c3?
.
That is correct.
This is a reminder that inorder to maintain the status of
501c4 Courtyard Media Foundation, the IRS requires you to file a
Form 990 annually.
If you haven't filed for theyear ending 12, 31, 20, 24 yet,
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with our assistance.
Please click the link below.
So you almost did you click thelink?
Or did you almost click thelink?
Nathan Mumm (31:02):
uh, you know you always click the link to follow
the follow the scan so Iactually clicked this on my main
machine and then I had to sendit over to my other machine to
actually take a look at it.
So I did click on it and itcame on up.
This was right.
When it's like april 28th, I'mlike, okay, this is the deal,
(31:22):
what's going on here?
I looked at the quickly.
It kind of sounded like it waslegit and I did click on it.
Mike Gorday (31:30):
Yep, you got psychologically taken advantage
of.
Nathan Mumm (31:33):
I did I did Not everybody's always perfect.
Mike Gorday (31:37):
Well, that's how they get us.
They will always get us at somepoint, because at some point we
are not paying enough attention.
Nathan Mumm (31:46):
Now what I will say is that it's supposed to take
you to the IRS to get your formright.
So it took you to a mockedversion of the IRS.
Oh, they tried to fake it.
They tried to fake it, but nowthe IRS website is blue.
So if you ever go and fileanything with the United States,
almost all of the governmentalwebsites use blue as a primary
color.
So this website had yellow as aprimary color.
(32:06):
So this website had yellow as aprimary color Probably the
worst color to choose to alertsomebody when you're going to
the fake webpage and all of asudden say this does not look,
no, that sounds really good,because they just peed all over
you.
Mike Gorday (32:19):
Is that what it is?
Yeah, okay, so the that soundslike it.
That sounds like it.
Nathan Mumm (32:23):
So the website actually is what triggered me
and I go this does not lookright.
I know all government sites arenormally blue.
Now in the state of Washingtonit's very green.
So I mean we have normallycolors that are profound with
each of the states that you arein and have stuff taken care of.
Marc Gregoire (32:39):
So that was it.
Even still, after you click onthe link, couldn't you just look
if it was a gov?
Nathan Mumm (32:44):
I did look up there too, but the first thing that
came on up was it was justyellow, it was even still the
link.
Mike Gorday (32:49):
The link is just a bunch of gibberish.
Nathan Mumm (32:52):
Yep, is it's kboj-zgpm yeah, but you don't
see that link until you print itout, right?
Marc Gregoire (32:59):
so when you just see the html, that was there the
html was covered, so I did notsee that itself.
You didn't hover your mouseover it, which is a a little
trick.
Nathan Mumm (33:06):
I was in a hurry so I had some bad.
You need to listen to Tech Time.
Marc Gregoire (33:09):
Radio's letter segment.
Mike Gorday (33:11):
This is where psychology works against you.
This is what Visa is countingon.
Nathan Mumm (33:16):
You're going on that Visa thing.
Mike Gorday (33:17):
I'm just going to hang on Visa, because that's
ridiculous.
I'm going to ask you a questionabout Visa.
You already know my answer too.
I don't know my answer to it.
Nathan Mumm (33:24):
Well, I don't know your answer necessarily.
All right, here we go.
Here's mine.
Everybody, listen up to thisone, all right?
All right, odie, are you ready,because I don't know if you've
gotten this.
Have you received a packagefrom Amazon or one of your
retailers that all of a suddenhad a QR code inside of your
package and asked you to fillout a survey for them?
(33:45):
Or have you received somethingwhere you purchased from Amazon
or an online store and it had aQR code in there and it asked
you to give them feedback or togive them a rating?
Sometimes they even incentivizeyou to do this and give you
money for a positive rating.
Then all you got to do is showit to them and then boom,
they'll give you some money backon PayPal or through another
area, or receive the box thatyou did not know where it was
(34:07):
coming from, with a QR code onthe outside.
Has that happened to you?
Ody (34:13):
The only time I've ever written a review is if I really
love the product or if I reallyhate that.
Nathan Mumm (34:20):
Okay, but let me just ask you have you gotten a
QR code in a package?
You've never gotten a QR code.
Ody (34:24):
I mean probably, but I don't.
I'm not going to click.
I have.
Okay, you have, Mark, You'venever gotten a QR code.
I mean probably, but I'm notgoing to claim it.
Marc Gregoire (34:28):
I have.
Okay, you have, Mark.
Have you done it?
Absolutely?
Nathan Mumm (34:29):
Okay.
So guess what?
The newest scam that's going onis that people are actually
selling products putting inmalware in the QR codes.
So what happens is you openyour phone to give a review, you
scan it because it's getting soeasy and you just think, okay,
I've done it before and therehasn't been a problem.
So these new scammers areactually working with low-end
(34:49):
products.
So let's say, you buy a cheapheadset or you buy some cheap
knockoff iPods or some type ofspeaker system or anything a
cable.
You get that rating in there.
Now what fraudulent people aredoing is putting in QR codes
that immediately load malware onyour phones and take over your
phones when you do that QR code.
(35:10):
Huge hit that is hitting rightnow.
It is called now what it is abrushing scam.
That's this new term of abrushing scam where the thieves
essentially are giving youaccess to information, working
with the person that is actuallyselling the product, to provide
a QR code that they don'treally care about the survey
(35:30):
with, but immediately capturesyour phone.
If this happens to you and youdo scan this QR code, it will
immediately shut down your phone, brick your phone, lock your
phones or immediately sendinformation on the back end to
this third party that has anopen portal to your phone itself
.
Treat QR codes the same way youdo links now.
Mike Gorday (35:49):
What's the point of bricking somebody's phone?
Nathan Mumm (35:52):
What was the point of bricking somebody's phone
Just to cause them grief?
So it's just a griefing thing.
Just a griefing thing.
But if I am buying some cheapheadphones from China, Maybe
that's what happened to my oldphone?
Did your old phone just stopworking?
Mike Gorday (36:07):
Yeah, it just stopped working.
Did it really yeah but I don'tthink I scanned the QR code.
It could have been.
It could have been that you dida QR code.
Maybe it got bricked.
Nathan Mumm (36:16):
It could have been bricked.
So treat QR codes the same waynow.
Do not click on themimmediately on your phone.
There are new companies thatare coming up with ways to
actually have QR code antivirusprocesses that will create a
portal that will verify the QRcode is correct.
But be careful.
Mike Gorday (36:35):
At what point do we , as a culture or a race or
whatever, just go?
This is absolutely ridiculous,yeah.
Nathan Mumm (36:43):
I don't know.
So I use QR codes for a hugemarketing event that I do.
I have them all over the localtown.
Mike Gorday (36:50):
That's why they work.
They're easy, you can take themfrom away.
Nathan Mumm (36:54):
You can order tickets from it immediately.
When you just go up, you scanby it.
So mine are legit.
Now I'm worried about mymarketing.
If this gets out there now.
I'm kind of sad because I'mgoing to lose all that momentum
of what I actually have there.
Marc Gregoire (37:06):
Kind of sad because I'm going to lose all
that momentum of what I actuallyhave there, I'm gonna go dig my
virus qr code and paste itright over all your stickers.
Is that what you're?
Mike Gorday (37:13):
gonna do.
Posters, see, this is howlaziness works in your.
It works in your favor what'sthat?
You're just not.
You just I get those things andI'm like I'm not gonna do that.
You just don't feel about Ijust no I I don't, I don't, I
don't fill out.
Okay surveys, I don't, I don'tfill out.
I don't fill them out.
No, I don't fill out surveys.
I don't fill out.
I don't scan QR codes.
I'm like this is too muchcognitive load.
(37:34):
I'm not doing this.
Ody (37:36):
Yeah, I'm in the same bracket with Mike.
Nathan Mumm (37:41):
The only way that I feel like they would get me is
if you know like somebody likeMark puts a falser code on top
of the real one yeah ofsomething like a restaurant, and
then I'm screwed well, justlook at all the places you go to
and you do now do a qr code fora menu well, that's how I got
in trouble.
Mike Gorday (37:58):
That's how I got in trouble with that parking thing
yes, you did somebody had a qrcode and you scanned and I
scanned it and suddenly andsuddenly, uh, now I had to go
and get my cards changed,because they had my card numbers
Like F, this yeah, so you gotto be careful.
Nathan Mumm (38:13):
All right, that ends our positive segment we
call letters Positive, didn't?
Speaker 8 (38:17):
you have a letter.
Mike Gorday (38:20):
I just did the whole thing.
All right, there you go.
I must have missed that.
I was thinking too much.
Nathan Mumm (38:25):
You're on the AI visa kick, so let's move on to
Mike's mesmerizing moment.
Welcome to Mike's mesmerizingmoment.
What does Mike have to saytoday?
All right, mike, would you liketo have an AI bot that
purchases standard items andmanages your financial situation
?
What?
(38:45):
Do you think no, no, no, no, nono, no, because I said yes, so
I mean I that's because.
Mike Gorday (38:52):
That's because you know you're you want to flirt
with dan.
Did you ever do you?
I bet you money that you didthe uh old uh.
What are those called?
Uh, uh bng or uh bng, what wasit?
What the the CD of the Monthclubs Remember?
Speaker 8 (39:09):
those.
Nathan Mumm (39:10):
Oh, Columbia Club Columbia.
Marc Gregoire (39:12):
House.
Yes, I did that too it was fortapes back in my day.
Mike Gorday (39:15):
That's exactly what this is.
It's a modern day ColumbiaHouse thing.
Nathan Mumm (39:19):
No, I got 10 tapes for $1.
Mike Gorday (39:21):
I know.
Nathan Mumm (39:21):
And then I just had to get one tape for 12 months.
Mike Gorday (39:24):
Yeah, but then you had to pay right.
Nathan Mumm (39:26):
Yeah, so then I had to pay like $10 for 12 months,
or you had to send it back.
Mike Gorday (39:29):
So they were saying if you don't like this, send it
back.
In the mail.
Nathan Mumm (39:32):
You had to send it back within a week.
Mike Gorday (39:33):
Right and back in the postal service.
Yeah, you'd never get it backin the mail, and the point was
is that it was making it so hardfor you to send it back that
you would?
Nathan Mumm (39:41):
just roll acdc guns and roses all that and guess
what I got.
All the rest of the months Igot country.
So then, all of a sudden, I gotinto countries so, kenny
chessie, all these other type ofstuff.
Marc Gregoire (39:53):
So these are horrible services.
You're right, mark, mike Iswear.
Mike Gorday (39:57):
Yeah, this is this is this is bad.
Would I recommend this foranybody?
No, no, no.
The more, the more you don't do, the more effort you give away
to something else, yeah, themore you're going to be taken
advantage of.
I'm sorry, but that's whatthese folks are trying to do.
We spend an entire lifetimearound staving off all this
(40:21):
information that we're gettingto just live a life.
To just live a life.
You know you can't even walkthrough a day without being told
.
You know, if you don't use Tide, you're a sucker, or you know
buy this car because it's moreawesome than that car.
Marc Gregoire (40:38):
So Mike just made his point.
What's your counterpoint?
Because you actually signed upfor the service.
Nathan Mumm (40:42):
Well, as I said, I'd be a part of their beta.
Mike Gorday (40:44):
Because he's lazy in the opposite direction.
Nathan Mumm (40:47):
No, I think it'd be great to have an AI bot, don't
you think so?
Marc Gregoire (40:54):
So you signed up for the beta.
We should maybe, in a fewmonths, come back and do a
Nathan Nugget on it.
Nathan Mumm (41:00):
So my financial bot's going to be Dave.
Mike Gorday (41:03):
Ramsey, you do.
You just want me to say that onthere don't you.
Get ready on the guy.
Nathan Mumm (41:09):
Be careful on the button.
All right, I know, I was justthinking about when you were
doing.
I'm like what am I going toname my AI bot?
I had something else and let melet me like.
Mike Gorday (41:17):
Do you do auto pay?
Nathan Mumm (41:19):
I do.
Oh yes, All my stuff is on autopay go back and check your auto
pay I know.
So how is it that you don'tknow you're getting taken
advantage of?
So I'll look at the chase, uh,almost every other day, my bank
account if it looks like it'ssomething off, and I'll be like
you know that's I mean I use, Iuse auto pay for certain things,
okay, but I have to go.
Mike Gorday (41:40):
I have to go and check to make sure that I'm
being billed properly, because Iknow somewhere along the line
somebody's gonna to misbill meand I'm going to lose money
somewhere.
Nathan Mumm (41:50):
That happens, and I don't think it's accidental
either.
Let me just tell you, I got anemail from my DeLorean group
that I paid for.
Oh, I'm going to have to talkabout that.
Ody (41:59):
Alright okay.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
You know.
Thank you for that mesmerizingmoment.
Mike Gorday (42:02):
Yeah that was certainly mesmerizing.
No, don't do it.
So that was certainly All right, we're going to do it.
Nathan Mumm (42:05):
We're going to head out to a commercial break.
When we return, we have thisweek in technology, so now is a
great time to enjoy a littlewhiskey on the side, as we're
going to be doing so during thebreak.
See you in a few minutes.
Mike Gorday (42:14):
Hey, mike, yeah, what's?
Nathan Mumm (42:15):
up, hey, so you know what.
We need people to start likingour social media page.
Mike Gorday (42:20):
If you like our show, if we could use your
support on Patreoncom.
Is it Patreon?
I think it's Patreon.
Okay, Patreon, if you reallylike us, you can like us in
Patreoncom.
Nathan Mumm (42:33):
I butcher the English language.
You know, you butcher theEnglish language all the time.
It's Patreoncom.
Mike Gorday (42:38):
Patreoncom.
If you really like our show,you can subscribe to Patreoncom
and help us out and you canvisit us on that Facebook
platform.
Nathan Mumm (42:47):
You know, the one that Zuckerberg owns.
Mike Gorday (42:48):
The one that we always bag on.
Nathan Mumm (42:51):
Yeah, we're on Facebook too.
Yeah, like us on Facebook.
Do you know what our Facebookpage is?
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At Tech Time Radio, you knowwhat?
There's a trend here.
Mike Gorday (43:00):
It seems to be that there's a trend and that's Tech
Time Radio, or you can evenInstagram with us, and that's at
TechTimeRadio.
Nathan Mumm (43:06):
That's at TechTimeRadio.
Or you can find us on TikTok,and it's TechTimeRadio.
It's at TechTimeRadio.
Mike Gorday (43:12):
Like and subscribe to our social media Like us.
Nathan Mumm (43:14):
Today, we need you to like us.
Mike Gorday (43:16):
Like us and subscribe.
Nathan Mumm (43:17):
That's it.
That's it, it's that simple.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
And now let's look back at this week in technology.
All let's look back at thisweek in technology.
Nathan Mumm (43:28):
All right, we're going to go all the way back to
May 11th 1997.
Deep Blue defeats CasperCaspero in a chess tournament.
The IBM computer and artificialintelligence, deep Blue,
defeats reigning chess championand one of the greatest chess
players of all time, garyCaspero, in the sixth and
deciding game of the tournamentmatch, thus becoming the first
(43:50):
time a computer defeated a chesschampion in match play.
The defeat is a reigning chesschampion at the hands of
artificial intelligence, madeheadlines around the world and
marked a milestone in thedevelopment of AI and machine
learning.
From this early landmark moment, the advancement of computer
power and machine learning hascreated even early landmark
moment.
The advancement of computerpower and machine learning has
created even more powerfulartificial intelligence that can
(44:11):
perform more complex tasks inseconds versus the human brain.
Well, that was this Week inTechnology.
If you ever wanted to watchsome Tech Time history, with
over 240 plus weekly broadcastsspanning our four plus years of
video podcasts and bloginformation, you can visit us
online at techtimeradiocom andwatch our older plus years of
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They can visit us online attech time radiocom and watch our
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We're going to head out for acommercial break.
(44:31):
When we return, we have ourMark mumble whiskey review.
See you after the break.
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Speaker 1 (45:39):
The segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's
Whiskey Mumble.
Mike Gorday (45:46):
You know, Mark, how I know when Nathan's not an AI
bot.
Marc Gregoire (45:49):
Yet How's that?
How's that, Mike?
Mike Gorday (45:51):
Because he still messes things up like Garry
Kasparov.
Is it Kasparov?
Nathan Mumm (45:56):
or Kasparov.
Mike Gorday (45:57):
It's Kasparov, kasparov.
Nathan Mumm (45:59):
Are you sure?
Mike Gorday (45:59):
Yes.
Nathan Mumm (46:00):
Okay, all right, we'll see Listeners.
Mike Gorday (46:03):
That's how I know.
Nathan Mumm (46:04):
Is it Garry Kasparov or is it Garry Kasparov
?
Mike Gorday (46:07):
It's Kasparov, okay .
Nathan Mumm (46:09):
He's a Russian grandmaster.
I know that.
All right.
So you listeners, you need tosay is Nathan right or is Mike
right?
Yeah, you know who's right.
All right, let's move on to ourpick of the day, not AI, nathan
.
Marc Gregoire (46:22):
Today, May 6th, we are celebrating a day that we
are all currently celebratingright now Kasparov Day.
That would have been a goodguess.
Whiskey Day it's pretty close.
National Beverage Day oh, Ilike National Beverage Day Now.
We could not be more excitedabout National Beverage Day.
The day encourages us to sitback, relax and enjoy your
(46:44):
favorite beverage.
Beverages come in many formsand the good news is there's one
for every taste.
The only thing that matters isthat you pick up and make some
of your favorite gathering withfriends and family.
So get ready to enjoy and unwind.
Nathan Mumm (46:57):
I like some sweet tea.
A little sweet-ay, a littlesweet-ay.
Well, what Sweet-ay.
Have you ever been in the South.
They always do sweet tea likesweet-ay.
Mike Gorday (47:06):
Have you ever been in the South?
They always do sweet tea.
That's not how they say it inthe South?
Speaker 8 (47:10):
It's not sweaty.
Nathan Mumm (47:10):
It's not sweaty, a little sweaty Okay.
Marc Gregoire (47:12):
Well, in celebration today, we have four
beverages we are sipping on, andI did write with friends, but
I'm not sure right now.
Nathan Mumm (47:20):
Okay.
You guys have us all gettingliquored up, I'm going to tell
you the show gets a little bitmore of the first of the month
shows, a little bit moredegraded as we drink through all
of our shots do you have afavorite?
Marc Gregoire (47:30):
yet are you still deciding?
Nathan Mumm (47:32):
I do have a favorite.
I absolutely have a favorite.
This is my favorite right hereby far and mike, do you have a
favorite?
Marc Gregoire (47:36):
yeah?
Mike Gorday (47:37):
oh, you guys agree, we're agreeing.
So far I don't even have todrink.
Marc Gregoire (47:41):
So you guys all chose the one in the water glass
, which is yellowstone.
Special finishes collectiontoasted oh, it's from lux row,
which is now owned by mgp.
Ross and squid it's fromkentucky.
This is a finished straightbourbon, so it is toasted.
Four years, 100 proof, 52dollars.
Okay, all right.
(48:02):
And then do you have a worstone?
Yes, this shot glass.
Nathan Mumm (48:06):
I am not liking the shot glass.
Mike Gorday (48:07):
Mine's in the.
Nathan Mumm (48:09):
Yours is in reverse order.
Marc Gregoire (48:09):
Oh, okay.
Third position Well, that oneis Penelope Toasted Series.
Now, this was the one forDecember 24th.
This is the special one, okay,that they put into the wine,
okay, or into the box, okay, man, I haven't even been drinking.
Nathan Mumm (48:27):
You got a lot of drinks over there too.
Marc Gregoire (48:29):
I was thinking about all their different
favorite beverages.
Okay, all right.
So this one is also from MGPRoss and Squid.
It's distilled in Indiana, it'sa finished straight bourbon,
roughly five years, 100 proof,and this one is $70.
Nathan Mumm (48:43):
This is the most expensive one.
Okay, that's good that my tastedecided to go with the $50
bottle.
Marc Gregoire (48:49):
Did you have a close second?
Nathan Mumm (48:51):
I did.
My second would have actuallybeen here, so that would have
been the Glencairn?
Marc Gregoire (48:56):
Yep.
What about you, Mike?
That was his number two also.
Mike Gorday (48:59):
Yeah, no, this is my number two.
Nathan Mumm (49:01):
Yeah, so we're the same.
Marc Gregoire (49:02):
We're the same, yep.
Nathan Mumm (49:03):
That's my number two.
Marc Gregoire (49:04):
So that one number two was Millum and Green
Whiskies.
They're triple cask bourbon, sothis is a blend of straight
bourbons from Texas, Kentuckyand Tennessee.
Non-age stated 94 proof, $47.
Okay.
And then the one that was kindof in the middle kind of amped
for everybody.
Oh, mike's, no, Mike's.
Mike Gorday (49:30):
No, it wasn't Mike.
No, mike, no, no, that would bemy last.
I'm having trouble because theyall taste pretty good, so no,
actually the one I just readthere was mike's last.
Marc Gregoire (49:34):
Okay, okay, okay so the one in the beer glass,
yeah, which is mike's secondthat's my second, yeah and that
is my second.
Mike Gorday (49:41):
Second, yeah, that's your second okay that.
Marc Gregoire (49:43):
So.
Your second is the beer glass.
That is the wise man.
That is a blend of straightbourbons from the Stolle group.
It's a blend of four Kentuckywhiskeys four to eight years old
, 90.8 proof, $60.
Nathan Mumm (49:57):
Okay, All right, that's good to know.
We'll see what our pick of theday is, but I'm sure I'm not
changing.
All right, well, with whiskingtechnology.
Marc Gregoire (50:09):
Such a great pairing, pairing just like c3po
and r2d2.
Oh, you remember, yesterday wasrevenge of the sith day on may
5th, right?
Nathan Mumm (50:13):
so you have may 4th , then you have may 5th, revenge
of the sith, and then we havetoday the 6th.
Marc Gregoire (50:18):
Why is may 5th, besides cinco de mayo, the sith
thing?
Nathan Mumm (50:21):
well, I said, they've added it now.
So the star wars is trying tokeep on going on with different.
You've heard of of that before,haven't you Mike?
Oh yeah, okay, that's going tomake me drink.
All right, let's now preparefor our technology fail of the
week, brought to you by EliteExecutive Services.
Congratulations, you're afailure.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
Oh, I failed.
Did I yes, did I yes.
Nathan Mumm (50:44):
All right.
This week's technology failcomes to us from Uber.
Now.
Julia faced every parent'sworst nightmare when her
five-year-old daughter wasinadvertently taken away in an
Uber while sleeping in thebackseat.
Realizing the error, sheimmediately contacted Uber,
seeking to contact the driver toswiftly find her child.
However, uber refused to givecontact information, citing
(51:05):
company policy.
Instead, they required theToronto Police to submit an
official request via theiremergency disclosure form,
accessible only through thepublic safety response portal or
by email.
Now, this bureaucratic processhindered the efforts to locate
this child.
Bureaucratic.
Mike Gorday (51:22):
Bureaucratic, bureaucratic.
I actually like that one,because you know it sounds like
necrotic.
Okay, there you go, although.
Nathan Mumm (51:29):
Uber was unwillingly to provide direct
help.
Toronto police managed to tracethe driver through other
channels.
Upon arrival, the officer foundthe child safe but
understandably distressed.
The girl had been unknowinglytransported about 20 miles away
from her initial drop-off point.
Now Julia, the mom, feltrelieved but enraged by Uber's
lack of immediate support.
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Now, as compensation, uberoffered a $10 credit, which
Julia deemed deeply insulting.
Now Uber justified his actionsby stating that his policies
aimed to protect the privacy ofboth riders and drivers.
Nonetheless, critics claim theincident exposed to significant
flaw in emergency responseprocedures within the gig
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economy, when efficiency oftencomes at the expense of customer
service.
Now, technology analyst CamryLevy pointed out that
traditional transportationservices usually have direct
customer support systems, whilecompanies like Uber depend on
strict protocols that cancomplicate the urgent situation.
Julia has since intensified herefforts, demanding policy
(52:32):
reforms that would ensure uberprioritizes the safety of minors
in similar circumstances.
She asserts that no financialcompensation would have been
adequate without theimplementation of a clear
emergency protocol to preventsimilar occursions for their
families.
Sue Alright, so what do youthink there?
So, odie, what are you sayingthere?
Ody (52:52):
Okay, I am not blaming the mom at all.
I want that to be very clear.
Okay, but Uber does not allowminors to ride alone.
Nathan Mumm (53:01):
Okay, they wouldn't call it.
Ody (53:05):
There's a policy, there's a policy and they just started
doing it with teens, that teenscan now ride alone or have their
own accounts.
So I don't know about you, butI wouldn't let a five-year-old
alone in somebody's car bythemselves.
Mike Gorday (53:20):
Okay, so she wasn't unloading.
That's what happened.
Nathan Mumm (53:23):
She was unloading, she forgot that her kid was in
the back.
Oh, she forgot.
Marc Gregoire (53:30):
She did, she forgot the kid, did she forget?
Mike Gorday (53:31):
or did she just unload and then they just took
off?
Well, according to what I read,they were discussing about how
to move all these groceries, orwhatever and get the kid and the
Uber driver just took off.
Ody (53:41):
Yes, then I take it back.
Mike Gorday (53:43):
Okay, take it back.
Okay.
So okay, that's fine, okay takeit back Okay.
Ody (53:48):
So okay, that's fine.
Speaker 8 (53:50):
Oh, wow.
Nathan Mumm (53:50):
Although still, if you're an Uber driver, this is
what I would say you shouldn'tbe leaving, and if you have to
go 20 miles until you realizeyou have somebody in your
backseat.
Mike Gorday (53:59):
Well a sleeping kid is pretty quiet.
Ody (54:01):
Yeah, also, they're a five-year-old, so they're pretty
small.
Depending how you're sitting,are you going to be able to see
them in the rear view?
Nathan Mumm (54:08):
mirror.
I would expect as an Uberdriver, you always check to make
sure somebody leaves your deal.
Mike Gorday (54:13):
The whole situation is not the problem.
The problem is where thebureaucratic policies come into
play.
Yeah, it should have been $20.
Nathan Mumm (54:21):
It should have been $20.
Mike Gorday (54:23):
That's.
The real problem is that itshould have been $20 instead of
$10.
That's the real problem is thatit should have been 20 bucks
instead of 10 bucks.
No, it's the bureaucraticnonsense that went into play.
The woman called told Uber thattheir five-year-old daughter
was still in this car and theywere like well, company policy
tells me that you have to callthe police and the police have
to do this and that and this andthat.
Ody (54:44):
I understand where they're coming from, though, because
they're covering their own.
Nathan Mumm (54:49):
And their driver.
Right, they don't want the.
Ody (54:50):
You can just get a driver and I understand that, but this
is a child, this is an emergencysituation, that there should be
policies that supersede thesenonsense privacy things.
Nathan Mumm (55:03):
Yeah, Okay, all right.
Now let's move on to ourtechnology fail of the week.
Ody (55:09):
we we just did that.
I'm sorry.
Nathan Mumm (55:11):
I'm sorry our nathan nugget, sorry, I I'm
thinking our nathan.
You're celebrating beverage daynathan's been celebrating
beverage day a little bit longerthan he should thanks.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
Let's move to our nathan nugget this is your
nugget of the week I got a lotof whiskey in me, all right.
Nathan Mumm (55:25):
The recent publication of a deeply flawed
AI-generated diagram in arespected scientific journal
underscores a troubling reality.
Now we've had James on and hetalked about this, so this is
going back to James on our showsa couple months ago Now the
increasing risk of errors inacademic research due to
unchecked artificialintelligence.
(55:47):
Now the journal Frontiers inCell and Development Biology had
to retract a paper afterdiscovering that it contained a
biological inaccurateillustration of a rat, one with
bizarre distortion includingfour testicles and non-sensual
labels.
Now this incident is more thanjust an embarrassing mistake.
(56:08):
It reflects a growing concernin the scientific community.
Ai-generated content is rapidlymaking its way into research,
but without proper oversight itthreatens to undermine the
credibility of medicalliterature.
Scientific journals serve asthe cornerstone of knowledge,
guiding medical advancementtreatments and public health
decisions.
When errors like this slipthrough the cracks, this casts a
(56:29):
doubt on the reliability ofpeer review studies and
highlights the danger ofover-reliance on automation
without human verification.
All right In our role of AI.
we had a medical journal, andyet it had a rat.
That wasn't even a rat.
The rat actually was sitting upin a chair.
Um, it was an AI generated.
Mike Gorday (56:51):
It was an.
Nathan Mumm (56:51):
AI generated rat with uh four, four uh man parts
that were that were included inthe diagram and then it was also
mislabeled and this got peerreviewed and published into our
large language model systemsacross our ai platforms.
Mike Gorday (57:11):
Okay, all right.
So what I said?
Let's do a technology fair.
I have to ask an obviousquestion here.
Yeah, you're ranting about arat with four nuts getting put
on a scientific journal, right,and how bad that is.
Yeah, and yet you're going toallow Visa to pay your bills.
You can't get off that.
Nathan Mumm (57:28):
Visa thing.
I'm not going to get off that.
That Visa thing is going to beyour new.
I got it.
Anytime I need something.
Odie, you're going to have toreclip this show Anytime I need
something.
I'm just going to say how doyou feel about your?
Mike Gorday (57:39):
Visa AI.
Can you just say rat with fourballs not run fast, okay.
Nathan Mumm (57:54):
The other problem with that too, with the large,
large language models, is that's, that's compounding, because
you can't just go there and pullthat data out.
Marc Gregoire (57:56):
No, because once it gets published, and it gets
replicated, and replicated, andreplicated, unless you were to
start completely over.
And that's the problem withthese large language models, I
have problems with them yeahbecause we're not starting over
and so these issues just keepcompounding and compounding.
Yep, all right, it's like avirus.
Nathan Mumm (58:07):
So now you're going to have pictures all online,
that's correct, all online ofrats with four balls.
All right, there you go.
Let's move on to our pick ofthe day whiskey tasting.
Speaker 1 (58:18):
And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings
.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop.
Marc Gregoire (58:26):
All right, we are doing our Flavor calendar round
five and I question whether youguys are connoisseurs or not,
but I will say I was tasting andmy number one is both your
number one, wow.
Nathan Mumm (58:39):
Look at that, and not only that my order is
exactly Mike's order.
Marc Gregoire (58:43):
So, mike, you are the connoisseur of today.
Oh wow, there you go.
So number one was in the waterglass.
Nathan Mumm (58:49):
Yep.
Marc Gregoire (58:50):
The Yellowstone Special Finishes Collection
Toasted Number two, which is inthe beer glass, the Wise man,
which is a blend of straightbourbons.
Four Number three was PenelopeToasted Series in the shot glass
and that is finished straightbourbon.
And the fourth one, whichactually is my thumbs down of
(59:12):
all of them was the Milam andGreen.
Triple Cast Bourbon in theGlencairn.
Nathan Mumm (59:17):
So give a thumbs up for everybody, but the last one
.
The last one should be a thumbsup A thumbs up, a thumbs up.
Mike Gorday (59:22):
What about?
Marc Gregoire (59:23):
for you.
Any thumbs down for you, Mike?
Mike Gorday (59:25):
I didn't have any real thumbs down I?
What about for you?
Any thumbs down for you?
Mike, I didn't have any realthumbs down.
I kind of liked all of them.
Nathan Mumm (59:29):
Okay, but you know, all right, all right, guys.
Lots of whiskey today, lots ofcraziness.
Thank you so much, listeners,for joining our program.
Remember the science oftomorrow starts with the
technology of today.
We will see you next week Later.
Bye-bye.
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