Deep beneath the frigid Arctic landscape, humanity's digital legacy sleeps in a vault carved into frozen rock. The Arctic World Archive, nestled in a decommissioned coal mine near the North Pole, represents our most ambitious attempt to preserve crucial data against time itself. With deposits from over 30 countries—including Vatican manuscripts and 3D scans of the Taj Mahal—this modern-day Library of Alexandria raises profound questions about what we choose to save for future generations.
Meanwhile, the boundaries between ancient biology and modern commerce blur as scientists develop luxury leather goods from reconstructed T-Rex DNA. By extracting collagen preserved for 80 million years and engineering it in laboratory conditions, researchers have created what might become the most exclusive fashion material ever conceived. This startling fusion of paleontology and consumer products forces us to reconsider our relationship with extinct species—are we preserving their legacy or simply commodifying them?
Digital security takes center stage with the "Interrupt" device—a portable hacking tool that puts professional-grade network testing capabilities into an affordable, Game Boy-sized unit. Priced at just $199, this powerful gadget demonstrates how cybersecurity tools have become dramatically more accessible, democratizing techniques once restricted to specialists. While marketed for ethical testing, its potential for misuse highlights our ongoing struggle to balance technological advancement with responsible usage.
From a Catholic priest who embezzled $40,000 for mobile gaming addictions to Newark Airport's frighteningly outdated air traffic control systems still running on floppy disks, we examine how technology shapes our vulnerabilities as much as our strengths. Whether preserving our past in frozen vaults or struggling with the consequences of our digital lives, one thing becomes clear: the choices we make today about technology will echo long into humanity's future.
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Welcome everyone.
Let's start today's show.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Now on today's show.
Nathan Mumm (01:36):
All right, On today's show we're going to be
talking about three of the mostinteresting subjects to lead off
our series.
Then we have Gwen Wei joiningus with, of course, her Gadgets
in Gear segment, and we have atechnology fail that'll make you
not want to fly, that's right.
Plus, we have, of course,Mike's mesmerizing moment, our
technology fail of the week, andimpossible Nathan Nugget.
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And, of course, our pick of theday whiskey tasting, To see if
it gets one, two or three thumbsup.
We're going to see if it getsone, two or three thumbs up.
We're going to see if Marklikes it too, since he's
drinking it today before the endof the show.
But now let's head on to thelatest headlines in the world of
technology.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Here are our top technology stories of the week.
Nathan Mumm (02:18):
All right Story number one, high above the
Arctic Circle, halfway betweenmainland Norway and the North
Pole.
North Pole.
Gwen Way (02:26):
Frozen the mainland Norway and the North.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Pole.
Gwen Way (02:27):
Frozen the North.
Nathan Mumm (02:28):
Pole.
Mike Gorday (02:29):
The North Pole Frozen mountainous and remote.
Nathan Mumm (02:34):
It's home of hundreds of polar bears and a
couple of sparse settlements.
And snowmen and the mostintensive collection of digital
data in the world.
Let's go to Lisa Walker formore on this story.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Long year by of digital data in the world.
Let's go to Lisa Walker formore on this story.
Longyear Bayan, the world'snorthernmost town, in a
decommissioned coal mine is theArctic World Archive, an
underground vault for data.
Customers pay to have theirdata stored on film and kept in
the vault for potentiallyhundreds of years.
This is a place to make surethat information survives
technology, obsolescence, timeand aging, says founder Rune
(03:10):
Bjerkestrand.
With a headlamp on, runedescends a dark passageway and
follows the old rail tracks justunder 1,000 feet into the
mountainside until we reach thearchive's metal door, just like
you see in the TV or game seriesFallout.
Inside the vault stands ashipping container stacked with
silver packets on which the datais stored.
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It's a lot of memories, a lotof heritage, mr Bjergestrand
says.
It's anything from digitizedart pieces, literature, music,
motion pictures, you name it.
Okay, now that's cold storage.
Back to you guys in the studioAll right, so let's talk about
this.
Nathan Mumm (03:50):
What the fallout vault?
So there's a storage placeright, we just talked about it
All the way up next to the NorthPole, halfway between Norway
and the North Pole itself, andall this is is a storage that
stays sub-zero for people to puttheir storage in cold storage.
So cold storage is a term usedin data management all the time,
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which means you normally takeoff-site storage and you move it
to some location.
So if I'm a business companyand I have information that I
want to be taken care of,there's a concern with that
maybe going into the wrong hands, maybe getting compromised on a
security breach.
What you do is you put it on abig drive and you send it off to
a cold storage place.
This, literally, though, is acold storage place.
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Now, the archive company AWAlaunched eight years ago.
Now, more than 100 depositshave been made by institutions,
companies and individuals from30-plus countries.
Among these include artifactsof 3D scans of the Taj Mahal,
ancient manuscripts from theVatican Library, satellite
observations from Earth andspace, norway's treasured
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painting, the Scream, and manydifferent stuff.
Now, this was inspired by theGlobal Seed Vault.
Have you heard about the GlobalSeed Vault?
Oh, yeah, okay, so the idea ofthe Global Seed Vault, kind of
the same thing.
Mike Gorday (05:10):
It's up there too, around the North Pearl.
Nathan Mumm (05:12):
That's right.
So it's only 100 feet away, sothe storage is a little bit.
So it's the same company thatowns the Global Seed Vault
decided that they should do astorage company with guess what?
Uh, data and technology nowrunes.
Says that there's a lot ofrisks with information and data
the terrorism, war, cyberhackers and this is far enough
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away from everything that youwon't have to worry about it and
people can come and have thisinformation stored there.
Now it's interesting when youactually take a look at the
video of how they open this lock.
This this is like it soundskind of funny, but this lock is
like one of those locksmith typeof deal vault locks that I
would have on the back of mystorage shed or something into
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that extent.
So it's pretty unsecure.
So all I'm thinking about whenI'm doing research on this
article is if I wanted to stealall of the information and some
spy deal.
You always see the spies gointo these places in the middle
of nowhere.
This would make perfect sensefor me just to break into this
location steal all theinformation.
Mike Gorday (06:15):
Are you playing Goldeneye Well?
Nathan Mumm (06:17):
I kind of?
That's exactly what I thoughtabout.
Is you know what?
Here's all this informationstorage.
I bring myself some boltcutters and guess what?
I can have all the storagethat's available, but it's in a
proprietary system on tape, soit's not necessarily just hard
drives you can grab, but I'msure it's pretty easy to take
care of.
Now the back of the chamber haslarge metal boxes containing
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such items like GitHub's coldvault.
So GitHub is all the developerinformation's available.
They're pretty big information.
It's got software development,hundreds of reels of open source
code, the building blocks ofcomputer operating systems,
software websites, apps and more.
There's a public repository ofinformation written by over 150
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million different users that arestored up there.
Now would you be okay?
What's really interesting isall of this is stored with QR
codes.
Mike Gorday (07:09):
Would I be okay?
Would I be okay with what?
Nathan Mumm (07:12):
So would you be okay with taking your
information, putting it up intothe middle of no man's land,
norway, to keep your securityinformation safe, in case the
world gets destroyed and thenpeople can travel up there?
Mike Gorday (07:26):
I guess up there maybe it'll be warm by then if
the the world you act like thisis like a library that you know
the world's gonna end and thenthe survivors are gonna be like,
hey, can I check out?
Nathan Mumm (07:35):
that's what he's selling it to.
He's selling to the client.
See how much it costs to buy adata tray of storage up there
how much does it cost about?
300 million dollars oh, wow 300.
Oh wow, $300 million to have?
Yeah, definitely, I'll do thattomorrow.
That's your starting deal toown a tray in his storage.
Now all he has to do is sell it.
I just think of this.
He sells it to like one personBoom, he's made his profit of
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whatever he did to convincesomebody to throw a storage
container down in the middle of.
Mike Gorday (07:59):
He's got to pay for all that storage.
Nathan Mumm (08:02):
Well, clients pay to have their data stored there.
Transfer to tape have it takencare of Now?
This will save us from thedigital dark age is what they're
taking care of.
Many firms have offeredlong-term data storage.
Now cassettes and magnet tapes,known as LTRs, allow you to
store information and data thatcan be retrieved at a later time
.
Now Microsoft's working onProject Silica, which is
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developing a two-millimeterthick plane of glass which a
chunk of data is transferred bypowerful lasers.
There's other universities outthere that have created the 5D
memory crystal that recordshuman genome and different
information there.
But this is now a place whereyou can store all of the great
stuff for mankind to retrieve itlater.
Mike Gorday (08:45):
Okay, all right.
Nathan Mumm (08:47):
Are you excited about that?
Well, I'm excited about that.
Mike Gorday (08:50):
I'm just always interested in your take on these
things, because you have such aweird view of it's, like would
you take your data and stick itin this place?
Nathan Mumm (09:00):
I don't know, I don't have 300 million bucks.
Okay, but if you're a companyand you're going to store
something there, this hasnothing to do with securing your
data.
Mike Gorday (09:09):
Okay, it has to do with securing your past.
Nathan Mumm (09:14):
Yeah.
Mike Gorday (09:14):
It's not about your data, it's about your past.
Nathan Mumm (09:16):
Okay, and we can talk about that later Maybe I'll
bring that up on yourmesmerizing moment.
Mike Gorday (09:20):
That's a very important piece of understanding
our human society is looking atthe things from our past.
Nathan Mumm (09:29):
Okay, all right.
I got a question for youalready in my head, all right,
okay, all right.
Are you ready for story numbertwo?
Sure, all right.
What do we got going?
Mike Gorday (09:36):
on.
Here we're going to talk aboutdinosaurs what, oh, you like
dinosaurs.
Nathan Mumm (09:39):
You play dinosaurs on video games all the time,
don't?
Mike Gorday (09:42):
you I'm.
Nathan Mumm (09:43):
I briefly considered becoming a
paleontologist when I startedwhen I started college, but I
did is that before jurassic parkor after jurassic park?
Mike Gorday (09:51):
uh, that was before jurassic okay, okay, okay so
yes, I don't know if you knowthis, but uh, they have
discovered dinosaur dna, right Ihave heard about that.
Yeah right saying while it waspreviously believed that
dinosaur DNA wouldn't survivefor millions of years, recent
discoveries have found collagenpreserved in various dinosaur
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fossils.
Nathan Mumm (10:13):
Okay, including in the 80s.
This isn't the mosquito in theember.
No, no, no.
This is real stuff.
Mike Gorday (10:19):
You have to really get off the fiction here.
Nathan Mumm (10:21):
Okay, all right, okay, okay.
Mike Gorday (10:25):
So this is real.
No, I, I, yeah, absolutely so.
They found.
They even found one for an 80million year old t-rex.
Oh, wow, okay.
So last year, mit researchersdecoded how the collagen lasted
so long and, interestingly, theydiscovered a specific atomic
mechanism that shields collagenfrom water's damaging effects.
Isn't that awesome.
That's kind of cool, yeah, thathas nothing to do with the
(10:45):
story.
Oh, it doesn't.
You know what the story is?
Nathan Mumm (10:48):
Let's talk about the story.
What is that?
Mike Gorday (10:50):
It's like, okay, if you have dinosaur collagen,
what would you do with it?
Nathan Mumm (10:55):
I would probably rebuild a dinosaur, but I
wouldn't mix it with raptors.
Mike Gorday (10:59):
You might think so.
Okay, but we're going to talkabout how this company wants to
take all that wonderful dinosaurstuff and make handbags out of
it.
Nathan Mumm (11:09):
What, what?
Okay, so tell me more.
Mike Gorday (11:12):
What's going on here?
So Creative Powerhouse VML,genomic Innovators, the Organoid
Company and sustainablebiotechnology firm Lab Grown
Leather have joined forces todevelop the world's first t-rex
leather made using the extinctcreature's dna okay, so hang on.
Nathan Mumm (11:28):
So we find collagen , which is muscle tissue.
Mike Gorday (11:32):
We find this muscle tissue t-rex dna and the first
thing we we come to it is like Ineed to make a handbag.
It's just not enough.
Are you serious?
Okay, keep on going, I'm gonna.
You know it just not enough.
Nathan Mumm (11:43):
Are you serious?
Okay, keep on going, I'm goingto.
Mike Gorday (11:45):
you know, it's not enough that I'm going to go, and
, you know, kill an alligatorand make a bag out of that.
I'm going to, you know, dig upa fossil, yeah, Get its collagen
out of its bones and make ahandbag out of a T-Rex.
Nathan Mumm (11:58):
Oh boy, okay, all right, tell me more.
It sounds good.
Mike Gorday (12:07):
So sounds good.
So, as you know, the t-rex, orthe tyrannosaurus rex, was one
of the biggest and mostdangerous predators ever on the
face of the world, right, yep?
So these people are taking thisstuff, and reports suggest that
the first product could beavailable by year end okay they
claim this next gen material,but it could be a high quality,
cruelty free and eco-friendlyalternative to standard leather
(12:28):
okay, so hang on, so we can,maybe we can get.
Nathan Mumm (12:30):
We can get leather right now from from cows.
Right, so we can go and we canget leather, yeah, but
apparently that you know that'snot good enough for us now, so
we're taking it from deadcreatures, from dna millions and
millions of years ago and thenmake it into handbag.
So Gucci's all over this, huh.
Mike Gorday (12:47):
Yeah, okay, all right, okay, oh boy, okay.
So their quote is that thisproject is a remarkable example
of how we can harnesscutting-edge genome and protein
engineering to create entirelynew materials.
By reconstructing andoptimizing ancient protein
sequences, we can design T-Rexleather, a biomaterial inspired
(13:10):
by prehistoric biology, andclone it into custom engineered
cell line and then sell it toyou for the low, low price of
something, something howevermany dollars on late night tv
shows okay, okay, so so.
Nathan Mumm (13:25):
So.
So we're we're not okay withour current leather.
Uh, I don't know exploits, yeah, okay so?
Mike Gorday (13:31):
so collagen is a protein present that it skin and
muscles of various other bodilytissues.
Okay.
So in this thing, theT-Rex-based leather material
creation method differs fromplant-based or synthetic
alternatives by focusing ongrowing biological structures in
(13:54):
the lab.
Okay, Wow, okay, the t-rex tocultivate a new skin.
(14:14):
Wow, the sequence will betranslated into dna and
introduced into lab-grownleathers cells.
Okay, successful inimplementation of this process
is expected to yield a tightlypacked collagen structure
similar to the dermis layer ofanimal skin.
That's the, you know, the skin,okay, which remains after tan.
If successful, it will producea leather-like material derived
(14:37):
from the T-Rex DNA, and thenthey will fashion it into a
fashionable accessory and sellit to you on the open market.
Nathan Mumm (14:46):
Oh, wow, okay, Did you hear about the Mammoth
Meatball?
This is the same company.
Oh, this is the same companythat's doing the Mammoth
Meatball project.
Mike Gorday (15:01):
Yeah, vml is also behind the mammoth meatball
project oh my word which was abold endeavor that used
lab-grown meat derived fromreconstructed woolly mammoth dna
.
In 2023, I don't know whathappened to that.
Nathan Mumm (15:07):
So they did taste testing.
They spent all this time doingit it was nasty so.
So I believe what happened inthe mammoth meatball project is,
when they actually tried tosell it and had people taste it,
they're like this is like theworst thing ever.
Mike Gorday (15:19):
Probably yeah, and then that doesn't go to market.
Nathan Mumm (15:23):
You know what VML must be an interesting company
to work at I don't know.
We take DNA stuff and we try tomake common stuff like a
meatball.
Mike Gorday (15:29):
How do you make that leap?
I don't know.
Let's take all this wonderfulinformation from bygone years
and turn it into a handbag or,you know, give it out at Ikea.
Nathan Mumm (15:43):
Oh my gosh, I cannot believe this.
I'm going to be the new fashionvista walking down in LA.
I don't know.
Mike Gorday (15:50):
Stephen King should write a story about this.
About the leather.
Nathan Mumm (15:54):
T-Rex bag that eats people.
It starts going Okay, alright.
Well, guess what Story?
Number three doesn't.
Mike Gorday (16:04):
I don't know, is this an interesting story?
Well, it kind of is.
Nathan Mumm (16:08):
It is we're talking now about.
We now have an American Pope.
Yeah, that was great, so guesswhat we have a technology story
that's going to make him sohappy to hear about on one of
his Catholic priests.
Well, this Catholic priestdecided to steal over $40,000 of
parish funds to fuel hisaddiction to Mario Kart and
(16:31):
Candy Crush.
But the good news he's beenspared from jail.
Oh is that the good news.
Hang on.
How many upgrades do you needin a Mario Kart?
Now I play games online and Iplay Sea of Thieves and I have
paid for some skins that looklike Captain Jack and a couple
other things, clearly.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
But no more than about $20.
$40,000.
Nathan Mumm (16:51):
$40,000.
Now do you realize that whenyou play these games, you don't
get that back?
That digital asset over 10 or20 years will be gone.
So you spent forty thousanddollars on air well, see again.
Mike Gorday (17:05):
The funny thing is that you're focusing on the, the
, the aspect right, the, at thegame, the game he's spending
money on the game when what heactually did was siphon $40,000
from his parish.
Nathan Mumm (17:19):
Okay, he stole $40,000.
I still can't get over $40,000played for upgrades and for
video games.
Mike Gorday (17:27):
That's why sitting here next to you is always a
treat, because you're like Idon't know why I spend $40,000
on a video game and I'm likedude, this guy was stealing it
from his church to pay for hisgaming addiction.
Nathan Mumm (17:39):
Yeah, Lawrence Kozak, 52, pled guilty to
siphoning the funds from StThomas More Church in Pottstown,
Pennsylvania.
A sentence to 80 hours ofcommunity service.
What's that, Odie?
Ody (17:53):
What was the game?
Nathan Mumm (17:55):
Mario Kart and Candy Crush.
Mike Gorday (17:58):
I know there was some other stuff.
I think, there was some onlinegambling and stuff.
Nathan Mumm (18:03):
No, no, no, there wasn't, so this is the thing, Is
it 40K over the full year.
Ody (18:07):
No.
Nathan Mumm (18:07):
The court heard the priest and he used the parish
credit card to drop tens ofthousands of dollars on
power-ups and Mario Kart andother paid online content.
None of these resulted ingambling or receiving money back
, so these are all games.
If I got $40,000.
Mike Gorday (18:26):
I thought he was doing online gambling.
No, no, no.
Nathan Mumm (18:29):
That's what it gets me.
No, so he's not making anyadditional finances.
Mike Gorday (18:34):
What was the time frame of this?
Over two years.
Ody (18:35):
Okay, so like $20, making any additional finances.
What was the time?
Frame of this.
Nathan Mumm (18:37):
Over two years.
Ody (18:38):
Okay, so like 20K a year, what type of upgrades Are you
trying to make?
Mike Gorday (18:45):
this an easier pill to swallow?
No, no, no, no, no.
I just try to understand 40K ina year.
Nathan Mumm (18:50):
No over two years.
Ody (18:51):
Okay, see that.
Yes, I guess it is easier toswallow that.
He stole 40Kk I know, but themario kart I don't understand.
The candy crush, I can so seethat happening really how much
money?
Mike Gorday (19:04):
it's a very addictive candy all you do is
you match stuff?
Ody (19:08):
it's texas people fall for those stinking power-ups and
like upgrades.
What?
Nathan Mumm (19:14):
oh, it's a very common thing, you make nothing
of it.
Ody (19:17):
I wish I could look up, like the most popular players of
candy crush and see how muchthey've spent overall why would
you pay any money to pay atetris game to do this?
Gwen Way (19:26):
every single, every you know, you know every.
Mike Gorday (19:29):
What mobile games do you play, buddy?
We know that you play mobilegames.
One of these mobile games I Iplay a football game.
Ody (19:37):
They don't have a pack or something.
Nathan Mumm (19:39):
No, I buy $9 for the game and I play it until I
get taken care of.
I don't play tons of mobilegames, but what I do.
I have a chess game on there.
It's free.
I play a couple other things,but that's it.
I do not play Now.
I doom scroll all the timethrough.
Ody (19:56):
TikTok.
No, no, no, it's not doomscrolling.
I do not play games on my phone.
Mike Gorday (20:00):
Clearly you need to hang out with Father Kozak here
and figure out what the draw is.
Nathan Mumm (20:06):
All right, okay, well, he also did what's really
nice.
He took some of that money andhe got his niece a fire tablet
and a couple other things also.
He was a good guy, alright,well.
Mike Gorday (20:18):
Was he.
He only got 80 hours ofcommunity service for that
$40,000.
Nathan Mumm (20:23):
And you know, he may end up being fat.
Mike Gorday (20:26):
It's good that Christian people are forgiving
you know what.
Nathan Mumm (20:32):
He is only on administrative leave and he'll
probably pop up someplace elsein the United States.
Mike Gorday (20:38):
Yeah, Well, we've seen this before right.
In very different circumstancesfor priests?
Yeah, okay.
Nathan Mumm (20:47):
Well, that is our top technology stories of the
week.
Moving on, gwen will be joiningus for our gadgets and gear
segment.
Next, buckle up as we drive 88miles per hour into our next
segment.
We'll catch you after thisbreak.
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Nathan Mumm (21:50):
All right, welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan
Mumm, our weekly show coverage.
Mike Gorday (21:53):
I don't know that doesn't trump T-Rex wallets.
Nathan Mumm (21:55):
Does it?
Or how about storing yourstorage in the middle of no
man's land?
That makes norway right.
So we got they're gonna.
Mike Gorday (22:02):
They're gonna store the t-rex wallets in the in the
bin, are they with all with themammoth meatballs?
That's right, we'll go back totech time.
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if you haven't, if you're just joining us midway
through the show and you saywhat, what the heck are you
talking about?
Go back for the next 15 minutesand you'll get everything that
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This is a unique and premiumblend of rich bourbon and rye
whiskeys, making for a premiersipping whiskey and one of high
west's all-time favorites.
Now, since this is not verydescriptive, I also bring you
david tau from drink hacker.
He says the palate is easier topin down toffee, milk chocolate
(23:03):
and pecan brittle lead with alittle sweetness.
These elements are balanced bya hint of salinity and dried
fruit think salted driedapricots.
It's one of the top high westburr-rize he's ever tried and
flat out among the best bourbonand rye blends he's sipped in
recent memory.
Nathan Mumm (23:23):
You thought that you had some predictions on who
would like this and who wouldn'tlike this.
Marc Gregoire (23:28):
We can say that for the mumbles Okay, okay, okay
.
Nathan Mumm (23:31):
We're just talking about the whiskey.
Tell us more.
Marc Gregoire (23:39):
So this is from Constellation Brands, of course,
who own High West.
The distillation is from Utah,indiana and Kentucky and it's a
blend of both, as we said,straight whiskeys of bourbon and
rye.
It's over 10 years old,everything in there, it's 92
proof and it's a blend of fivemash bills Two of them are rye
and three of them are bourbonsand it goes for $130.
Mike Gorday (24:04):
Well, we know where this one's not going.
That's not going on a Nathanshelf.
Nathan Mumm (24:07):
Hey, did you see my top shelf over there?
It's very bare.
I just had a wedding this lastweekend, did you?
Mike Gorday (24:13):
take all your top shelf.
Yeah, we drank heavily, I.
There's something.
There must be some correlationwith how much, how much liquor
you put away and how you feltabout that wedding.
Nathan Mumm (24:24):
Oh yeah, you're gonna have to hear about that
all offline, oh boy all rightnow.
Marc Gregoire (24:28):
Now, whether you're at a wedding or you're
sitting on a radio show, alwaysdrink responsibly.
Mike Gorday (24:33):
Heaven can wait okay, nathan didn't drink
responsibly.
Nathan Mumm (24:39):
We had lots of people there.
There was at least 10 or 20people there.
Mike Gorday (24:41):
He got drunk and bought power-ups from Mario Kart
.
Nathan Mumm (24:45):
I did not.
That's $40,000.
Alright, with our first whiskeytasting completed.
Mike Gorday (24:51):
The first what tasting?
Nathan Mumm (24:53):
Our whiskey tasting completed, we are now moving on
to our feature segment.
Today we have Gwen Way joiningthe show.
She's an expert in cybersecurity during the day and a
game board geek in the evening,as well as the producer of Tech
Time Radio.
Now our gadgets and gear gal isset for today.
Let's get ready to start ourComcast video stream now.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
What's new in our gadgets and gear.
Nathan Mumm (25:17):
All right, hi Gwen, hi Gwen, hi, welcome to the
show.
Tell us a little bit aboutyourself for all of the new
listeners.
Gwen Way (25:25):
Certainly.
Certainly.
I have been in the technologyspace not quite as long as
Nathan.
I've put in a quarter of acentury, though, so I feel
pretty good about that.
And uh yeah, like you say, myfocus is cyber security at this
point, but I've done a littlebit of everything okay, all
right now.
Nathan Mumm (25:44):
The best part about gwen is she does all of our
gadgets and gears this as westarted this show five years now
, are you sure?
Mike Gorday (25:50):
are you sure it's five years?
I am, I mean, sure it's fiveyears ago.
Okay, I'm just checking.
Just checking, because youalways get it wrong.
Now, I used to do this.
Nathan Mumm (25:57):
I used to do this segments and guess what happened
?
My pocketbook just blew up,because what I'd end up doing is
I'd buy stuff that we talkabout on the show, and then I'd
buy stuff that we didn't talkabout on the show.
Marc Gregoire (26:12):
You're thinking the whiskey segment?
Mike Gorday (26:14):
And I did.
Marc Gregoire (26:15):
And that's where you got all these bad bottles
that are sitting on your shelf.
Mike Gorday (26:19):
We all know that you still buy the stuff I do.
I was just at Wise and More andhere I am texting.
Nathan Mumm (26:26):
Mark.
I'm texting.
Mark, what do you think aboutthis?
What about this?
And Mark just responds back youmust be at Wine and More.
Those are all cheap whiskeys.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
Isn't that what you said to?
Nathan Mumm (26:33):
me.
Yeah, that's what you said tome All right, okay, gwen, what
is this project?
Now, we've done a lot of stufffor you.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
You like having, which is great, because you do a
good job and that saves me somemoney.
You know that I'm a gadget guyfor like little robots.
Nathan Mumm (26:48):
I love little robots, so that's kind of my
deal.
Mike Gorday (26:50):
But this is something he can get in trouble
with.
Nathan Mumm (26:56):
I've got two of these already that I've
purchased.
Let me just tell you this?
Gwen Way (26:59):
What is this unit?
This is right up your alley,yes, it is.
So for all of our listeners,have you ever wondered how
secure your home network is, ormaybe your friends or family
network?
Well, guess what?
This is a great tool to testthat out.
Well, guess what?
This is a great tool to testthat out.
(27:22):
If you go to kickstartercom andsearch for interrupt
I-N-T-E-R-R-U-P-T, you get thiswonderful pocket gadget for
hackers.
Nathan Mumm (27:34):
Now I have one that I've used a lot and I really,
really, really like, but I thinkthis one is actually going to
be the number one on my list.
Tell us what this does, whatyou can use it for, what the
form factor is.
Mike Gorday (27:48):
I mean, this is perfectly Nathan's gift, and
then we'll guess why Nathanlikes it so much.
Exactly, you know what I'm?
Nathan Mumm (27:52):
getting one for my wife's birthday is coming on up
and I decided, you know, Ishould buy her one too, so that
way you're getting yourself apress up for your wife's
birthday.
Gwen Way (27:59):
What is she going to do with?
Nathan Mumm (28:00):
it.
She's going to give it back tome and say here you go, honey
take care of it.
Mike Gorday (28:04):
Here's your spare in case you lose one.
That's right, yes.
Gwen Way (28:09):
In case.
I think it'll be just as vacuumcleaner.
Nathan Mumm (28:11):
Oh boy, okay, okay, tell us more about this object.
Gwen Way (28:14):
All right, this is a wonderful little toy.
It's a little bigger than aGame Boy.
It looks very much like a GameBoy, except a Game Boy with a
full QWERTY keyboard and a colortouch screen.
What this particular toy letsyou do is hack into your own
network to test and see how easyit is to get in there and mess
(28:38):
around with stuff.
Or, you know, friends, family,keep everybody safe.
It's very important to keepcybersecurity top of mind these
days.
Nathan Mumm (28:47):
All right, so you can get into your network.
Mike Gorday (28:48):
Or go into a bar and change all the TV stations.
Gwen Way (28:51):
Well, let's say we do not condone that behavior.
Nathan Mumm (28:55):
Let me ask.
However, it could be used itcould be that okay, so I'm gonna
I'm gonna go through somequestions because you were with
uh.
You were in a bar when I didthat, all right, okay.
All right, I'm gonna ask yousome questions on what this
device can do or cannot do.
A little off script here.
I know that we have a differentthing, but I'm gonna ask you
tell me if it can do it or if Ican't do it.
(29:15):
Okay, can this intercept uh nfclike credit cards, prox cards
and grab the identifications ofprox cards?
Gwen Way (29:26):
it can it can.
Nathan Mumm (29:27):
Okay, oh, number one.
Okay, can this find infraredand ir signals and overtake them
and become the main remote forthem?
Gwen Way (29:38):
TX and RX.
Yes, yes.
Nathan Mumm (29:41):
Okay, all right.
Can this connect into hardwirenetworks and take over and
capture data from a network?
Gwen Way (29:52):
Sure can.
Nathan Mumm (29:53):
How about wireless networks?
Let's just throw it up there, awireless network, sure can.
How about wireless networks?
Let's just throw it up there.
A wireless network.
That I wanted, of course, onlymy own wireless network, not my
next door, neighbors or somebodyin a public location.
But can it capture wireless keylogging information for a
network?
Gwen Way (30:09):
It could absolutely connect to a wireless network,
your wireless network, and makesure that you can figure out
what people are going to be ableto grab off of it.
Nathan Mumm (30:19):
Yeah, Okay, alright Now.
Mike Gorday (30:22):
So how is this a toy?
Nathan Mumm (30:24):
Well, this is an experiment.
Mike Gorday (30:26):
We started this off with it being a toy.
Now it's like this horrible.
No, it's a stem product.
Nathan Mumm (30:33):
No, it's a stem product.
That's what I tell everybody.
Those are stem products, right.
Gwen Way (30:37):
Stem is good, Stem is good.
You could also just say youknow, you're wanting to keep
yourself safe and just validate.
Nathan Mumm (30:44):
that Is this one of the perils of having Amazon
walkway or whatever the heckthat is.
That's a completely differentpath of treachery that we can
get into.
So this device I can configure.
Now I'm sure it doesn't comewith this.
So there's, you're going toit's going to come with like a
standard OS and then you have toload these little things side
loaded so that you actually getit on the unit itself.
(31:04):
Or does it actually come loadedwith these tools available
right out of the box?
Gwen Way (31:09):
It actually comes loaded with the tools.
Oh my word.
It will work with multipledifferent linux distributions,
but they are also working ontheir own linux distribution,
which will make things a littleeasier you know you're joking
about getting this for for yourwife.
Marc Gregoire (31:24):
Yeah, I'm thinking if she actually got
this for you, there's nothingmore she could do to turn you on
and give you.
So this is this would be that'strue all right, wow, yeah, so
now.
Nathan Mumm (31:34):
But this could actually be used for a good
business sense.
Let's say, you're not trying tobe a nefarious hacker, but if
you wanted to use it, tell mehow it can be used
non-nefariously.
Marc Gregoire (31:44):
Okay, hang on here, hang on here, so this is
what it can be used for.
Gwen Way (31:52):
Let's say, I'm a company and I have this thing
laying around, well, well I ifyou want to get into pen testing
, because pen testing can costtens of thousands of dollars for
companies and for smallcompanies that's an extremely
large amount of money.
So if you work at a smallcompany, you could certainly go
in and run a pen test to see howsecure your company is.
Nathan Mumm (32:16):
All right, now let's talk about the price.
I got some more informationhere, so a tool like this must
be at least $1,500.
Or let's say probably no, no,$900.
Try again.
Oh no, let's move down now.
Come on 500 bucks.
Marc Gregoire (32:33):
You've already bought a few.
Nathan Mumm (32:34):
You've already bought two few You've already
bought two.
Mike Gorday (32:37):
He already knows.
Nathan Mumm (32:38):
Could this be a $179 product?
Gwen Way (32:43):
Unfortunately, all of the early birds have been
purchased, but right now it's$199 or you can get two For $389
.
Marc Gregoire (32:53):
How many early birds were there that Nathan
bought?
Nathan Mumm (32:56):
I didn't get the early bird.
I did not get the early bird, Igot the package for two.
Yeah, but here's the deal.
Mike Gorday (33:03):
Here's the big selling point, though right Out
of all the technologygobbledygook that he just spit
out on the radio, we all knowthat the reason why you love
this is because of the stupidkeyboard.
I do.
Gwen Way (33:17):
He does have a full.
Speaker 8 (33:18):
QWERTY keyboard.
It's a beautiful thing.
Gwen Way (33:21):
It's like a big it's bringing back it's a BlackBerry.
Nathan Mumm (33:24):
It's a bigger version of a BlackBerry hacking
device BlackBerry is walkingaround.
Gwen Way (33:28):
Are there more of the old sidekick phones where you
split them out?
Oh yeah, I'm just getting soexcited.
All right, okay, all right.
And in answer to your question,mark, there were a thousand
early birds that have alreadysold.
Marc Gregoire (33:40):
So this is a hot product.
Gwen Way (33:42):
It's pretty popular?
Nathan Mumm (33:43):
Oh, come on.
Mike Gorday (33:44):
Of course it is Because everybody wants to be
hanging around in the bar andchange the channels All of a
sudden you go through.
Gwen Way (33:51):
Now I'm just imagining Nathan fighting with somebody
on the other side of the bar.
Nathan Mumm (33:54):
Oh, I know I'd be like listen buddy, I'm going to
be quicker on my See, that'swhat I would do, remember when I
turned off all the TVs.
Was it all the TVs or just?
Marc Gregoire (34:04):
one, it was just the main one.
Or at the regular bar, at thebar, at the bar.
Mike Gorday (34:16):
Yeah, we were at the bar and he has his little
gadget and he's like watch thisand sorry, like what, and he's
turning the channels on the maintv people are like.
The poor bartender is overthere.
He keeps grabbing the thing.
Marc Gregoire (34:22):
Doesn't this come with a warning, turning it off?
Don't do this at airports,because security will confiscate
.
Nathan Mumm (34:27):
Uh, yeah, you gotta be careful flipper is not uh
airport safe all right, explain,how do you know?
That okay, all right, explainhow many units have been bought
and how many of these areavailable, where I can go and
get it.
A little bit about the companyIs this their first Kickstarter,
or tell us the big details now.
Gwen Way (34:47):
So this is the company's first Kickstarter.
They are out of Edmond Oklahoma, so they are made in the USA.
They're sooner yeah of Edmond,oklahoma, so they are made in
the USA.
They're sooner.
Yeah, they've got a lot of goodinformation on their
Kickstarter page, so go tokickstartercom and search for
Interrupt and that'll pull up.
They've had 1,900 sold alreadyWow and have already breaked in
(35:13):
about 385,000 of the $10,000goal.
So they're doing really welland if you want one and I highly
recommend it you need topurchase it by June 3rd.
Nathan Mumm (35:25):
June 3rd.
Alright, don't let that dateget you by, and if so, then I'm
going to rush out right now andget one so.
Gwen Way (35:32):
I can F with my neighbor's TV, just so you can
fight with Nathan.
Nathan Mumm (35:36):
You can out right now and get one so I can F with
my neighbor's TV, just so youcan fight with Nathan.
You could take down all of yournext door neighbor's wireless
signals, have them all lockedand secured and then you could
be the only one that's gettingthat internet signal from.
Again, we do not condone thisbehavior.
Mike smiled there.
Mike Gorday (35:49):
I'm going to start running a protection wing.
Marc Gregoire (35:51):
There you go.
Mike Gorday (35:52):
You want your internet back.
Okay, that's right now.
The other question is put somemoney in an envelope clearly
slide it under my door.
Nathan Mumm (36:01):
We know that.
Uh, nathan's got one, but, gwen, all of our listeners want to
know did you buy one of theseunits?
Gwen Way (36:06):
oh, absolutely, I'm going to have so much fun
playing around with it and, uh,maybe I'll recommend it to some
of my customers.
We'll see so.
Mike Gorday (36:15):
I don't need to talk about human behavior and
and why I'm so, why I'm sofreaked out about technology.
I just want to pen test stuff.
Nathan Mumm (36:25):
I'm not looking to do anything nefarious, I just
want to pen test stuff.
Exactly what are you talkingabout?
Okay, all right, here we go.
All right, gwen, thank you somuch for being a part of our
show.
You do a great job each week,and I want to thank you so much
for finding this device andmaking my pocketbook disappear
300 plus bucks.
Gwen Way (36:44):
You are very welcome.
Nathan Mumm (36:45):
All right, We'll see you next month.
All right, we want to thankGwen for being a part of the
show.
She does a great job findingthe most unique items each month
for tech time radio.
Though let's move on to Mike'smesmerizing moment.
Welcome to Mike's mesmerizingmoment.
What does Mike have to saytoday?
Marc Gregoire (37:05):
I'm so curious what question you're going to
ask him.
Nathan Mumm (37:07):
Okay.
Marc Gregoire (37:08):
Because there's just so many questions from
today.
Nathan Mumm (37:10):
There's so many, all right.
So, mike, do you care aboutpreserving the history of our
world?
Now we're spending millions ofdollars to do so, but what about
how it was done traditionallythrough books and scrolls over
these thousands of years?
Why are we now using thisdigital?
Mike Gorday (37:25):
why are you asking me if I care?
I don't, I don't care about itdo you care about it at all?
No, okay this is.
This is one of the mostimportant things that we can do
as human beings is protect ourhistory and understand our
history and preserve our history.
(37:46):
Okay, I mean, we've talkedabout we've talked about the
eroding internet over the last10 years, right, and how what
was originally on the internetis being scraped off and not not
being preserved at all.
Right, this is a bad idea.
Okay, this keeps these kind ofthings, keep us grounded in what
(38:14):
we're doing, and it also, youknow, when you talk about the
vault you talked about, you know, if something happens and we
need to rebuild civilization,this is going to be an important
understanding of thatrebuilding okay so, yeah, I care
about preserving the history ofthe world.
(38:35):
Now, when that particular savinghas a very high price tag on it
, then you know the the limitsare.
You're getting only a certaincross section of the information
history and that informationand that will skew the actuality
of our world history.
Nathan Mumm (38:59):
So so there's organizations out there like the
way back machine that tries totake screenshots of, like old
internet sites, right, and sothat you can keep the history of
that.
Is it worth keeping thathistory?
Do we need that history orshould we just be putting this
down in old analog format sothat people can do this?
Mike Gorday (39:16):
It tells us who we are.
It also tells us you know.
It can tell us how we mademistakes if we pay attention to
it.
It tells us where we came from.
It tells us so much stuff thatif you get rid of this stuff
we've talked about this beforegetting rid of all this stuff
and not preserving itdisconnects us from our path.
(39:42):
It disconnects human beingsfrom where they came from, and
that's a dangerous thing.
Okay, all right, well.
Nathan Mumm (39:48):
Mike, thank, and that's a dangerous way.
Okay, okay, all right.
Well, Mike, thank you for thatmesmerizing moment.
Mike Gorday (39:52):
Now I need to go and find a T-Rex handbag.
Nathan Mumm (39:55):
Okay, up.
Next we have this Week inTechnology, so now would be a
great time to enjoy a littlewhiskey on the side, as we're
going to be doing so during thebreak.
You're listening to Tech TimeRadio with Nathan Mumm.
See you in a few minutes.
Hey, Mike, yeah what's up, hey,so you know what.
We need people to start likingour social media page.
Mike Gorday (40:11):
If you like our show, if you really like us we
could use your support onPatreoncom, or is it Patreon?
I think it's Patreon.
Okay, patreon, if you reallylike us, you can like us in
Patreoncom.
Nathan Mumm (40:24):
I butcher the English language.
You know, you butcher theEnglish language all the time
it's patreoncom.
Mike Gorday (40:32):
If you really like our show, you can subscribe to
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Nathan Mumm (40:38):
You know, the one that Zuckerberg owns, the one
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Yeah, we're on Facebook too.
Yeah, like us on Facebook.
Do you know what our Facebookpage is?
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It seems to be that there's a trend and that's Tech
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Speaker 1 (41:12):
And now let's look back at this week in technology.
Nathan Mumm (41:18):
All right, we're going into the Wayback Machine
of May 17th 1939.
The very first sports TVbroadcast happened.
Now NBC carries the firstbroadcast.
Is that really?
Mike Gorday (41:28):
1939.
Nathan Mumm (41:29):
Yep First TV broadcast happened.
Now NBC carries the firstbroadcast.
Is that really 1939, yep firstTV broadcast.
Nbc carries the first broadcasttelevised sporting event in
history the second game of adoubleheader baseball game
between Columbia and Princeton.
Only about 400 TV sets werecapable of receiving the
transmission, but it was animportant first step in the
history of televised sports.
Now NBC would later broadcast aMajor League Baseball game in
August of the the transmission,but it was an important first
(41:49):
step in the history of televisedsports.
Now NBC would later broadcast aMajor League Baseball game in
August of the same year and thecollege football game in
September, closely followed bythe NFL game in October.
There you go.
Mike Gorday (42:03):
Shouldn't that be the first broadcast in America
First?
Nathan Mumm (42:08):
sports TV broadcast .
Well, so there is a discrepancya little bit about a broadcast
that happened during theolympics over uh in germany.
Yeah, right, so that was a partof the story that we originally
looked at on our uh upcoming uh, when we do our show prep on
thursdays for our show, right,when I actually looked into it,
(42:28):
it seems like that broadcastnever happened.
They video recorded and thenthey delayed broadcasts, so it
wasn't really a broadcast, itwas a recording that was later
played.
So do you like that?
Sure, so now it surprised you,didn't you?
Mike Gorday (42:43):
No, okay, there you go, you never surprise me.
Nathan Mumm (42:46):
Alright, so this was the first TV live sporting
event that was broadcast.
Mike Gorday (42:50):
Okay, that's the key right.
Nathan Mumm (42:51):
Yes.
Mike Gorday (42:51):
The first live broadcast.
Nathan Mumm (42:53):
Yes, so it doesn't do any good to videotape and
then record it later.
Okay, all right.
Well, that was this week intechnology.
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(43:14):
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Marc Gregoire (44:33):
Oh, today, may 13th, we are all celebrating.
Yes, what are we allcelebrating?
Mike Gorday (44:37):
today, I have no idea.
Nathan Mumm (44:39):
T-Rex wallets.
Mike just wants a T-X rock, nomatter what they come out.
You want a T-X wallet, don'tyou?
Mike Gorday (44:44):
No.
Nathan Mumm (44:45):
I want to make jokes about it.
That's all I want to do.
I think that's the mostridiculous thing I've heard I'm
going to buy you a Velcro walletwith a T-Rex on it.
Mike Gorday (44:53):
All this stuff, the thing they come up with.
Let's make a leather bag.
Ody (44:56):
What are we celebrating today, Mark?
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Thank you, Odie.
We are celebrating NationalLeprechaun Day.
What Wow?
Okay.
Though the exact history, Odie,of National Leprechaun Day is
unknown, what is clear is theday is dedicated to celebrating
leprechauns.
Mike Gorday (45:10):
Can't make me pot of gold.
Marc Gregoire (45:12):
Supernatural beings.
In Irish folklore, the legendof leprechauns can be traced
back to the 8th century, whenthe lore began to spread among
the Celtics.
Whether or not you believe theyexist and hopefully nobody does
, but today is a good day to letyour imagination run loose.
Nathan Mumm (45:28):
Frosted Lucky Charms.
They're magically delicious.
That's exactly what I expectedfrom Nathan was Lucky Charms.
Mike Gorday (45:40):
Hey, the marshmallows were the best part
about that.
Right, I thought of that stupidmovie that Jennifer Aniston did
.
Speaker 6 (45:45):
I think it was her first movie.
Mike Gorday (45:46):
Oh, was it actually called Leprechaun.
Nathan Mumm (45:47):
Is it called Leprechaun?
It's Leprechaun.
Is it called Leprechaun?
It's.
Mike Gorday (45:49):
Leprechaun.
Marc Gregoire (45:50):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 5 (45:51):
Oh, that was like a horror movie.
Mike Gorday (45:53):
Yeah, it was this funny horror movie.
Okay, it was funny.
Nathan Mumm (45:56):
Was it funny.
Mike Gorday (45:57):
Yeah, it was funny.
It was a funny horror movie.
Marc Gregoire (45:59):
All right.
Now another legend out there.
Only way to catch a glimpse ofthe cunning and elusive
jackalope is to enjoy a glass oftruly incredible whiskey.
Oh, that is why they made BurrRye a blend of bourbon and rye.
Like the jackalope itself, it'sunique, mysterious and gone in
(46:22):
a flash.
Nathan Mumm (46:23):
Or you could go to Disney's Animal Kingdom park and
you can get in a tour and youcan see a jackalope run all
around on the terrace there, thejackalope population is always
reduced by the chupacabrapopulation.
What's that?
Mike Gorday (46:39):
You don't know what a chupacabra is.
Marc Gregoire (46:40):
No, Wow, mexican folklore.
Mike Gorday (46:44):
That's folklore.
It's a goat sucker.
Ody (46:46):
Or you could watch the Bounded Pixar short.
It has a jackalope in it.
Mike Gorday (46:50):
Oh there you go Okay, all righty, we need to get
some collagen so we can make ajackalope wallet.
Okay, all right.
Or a bag.
Speaker 5 (46:59):
Okay, so I can put my hacking tool in.
Marc Gregoire (47:02):
Let's talk about the whiskey, I've always enjoyed
Burr Rye's All right.
I love that that blend of ryeand bourbon and one of my
favorites was a past release ofthis whiskey from high west.
Now, after searching for years,I was thrilled to finally track
down a bottle of the 2025release and actually get a
bottle myself of this.
Unfortunately, my excitementquickly faded after opening it
(47:25):
now.
While david from drink drinkhacker found it impressive, I
find this release slightlyastringent and lacking in depth
and complexity.
It just did not live up to myexpectations or my memory of
previous expressions.
What makes this harder is thatI found a second bottle and
excitedly reached out to WhiskeyChris, who asked me to pick one
(47:46):
up for him as well.
Nathan Mumm (47:47):
Oh, whiskey Chris, I like Whiskey Chris, does he?
Like this Nathan's.
Who asked?
Marc Gregoire (47:50):
me to pick one up for him as well.
Oh, risky Chris, I like Whiskey.
Chris, what is it?
Does he like this?
Mike Gorday (47:51):
Nathan's been having a lot of whiskey
apparently.
Marc Gregoire (47:54):
Yeah, at this price point of $130,.
I really hope he agrees withDavid and not me.
Nathan Mumm (47:59):
Okay, I don't want to say what I'm thinking.
Marc Gregoire (48:03):
I'll give my guesses.
Yeah, because I had guessedthat this is a thumbs down for
Nathan, okay, and I had guessedMike will probably give it a
thumbs up, but not a big thumbsup.
That was my guess.
Okay, all right, we'll see howthat plays out.
Mike Gorday (48:17):
We'll see how it plays out.
Marc Gregoire (48:18):
I'm hoping to be wrong.
I hope you both give it bigthumbs up.
Mike Gorday (48:21):
We need to put all this data in the cold storage.
Nathan Mumm (48:26):
All right.
Whiskey and technology aregreat pairings, like Babe Ruth
and Home Runs, or like Babe Ruthand drinking before a baseball
game, or like drinking before atext show.
Mike Gorday (48:36):
Or a wedding.
Nathan Mumm (48:38):
Why would you?
Marc Gregoire (48:38):
go Babe Ruth and Home Runs.
He was so many people.
Nathan Mumm (48:43):
Back in the day he was the only guy that could just
be totally lit drunk and go onout in a baseball game and
either pitch and win or hit acouple home runs and barely walk
the bases and still win.
Marc Gregoire (48:56):
I think there's various MLB players out there
that would disagree with you.
Mike Gorday (49:01):
This is why sitting next to Nathan is always a fun
day.
Because, he comes up with thesereally off the topic, off the
weird things, all right.
Nathan Mumm (49:09):
Well, now let's prepare for our technology fail
of the week, brought to us byElitics.
How?
Marc Gregoire (49:13):
are you doing?
Nathan Mumm (49:14):
Karen, congratulations, you're a
failure.
Speaker 8 (49:19):
Oh, I failed.
Did I yes, did I yes.
Nathan Mumm (49:23):
All right, our technology fail.
Comes to us from NewarkAirports.
Mike Gorday (49:28):
Newark.
Nathan Mumm (49:28):
New Jersey, yep, newark airports were hit with
another 92nd radar outageshortly before 4 am local time
last Friday.
Air traffic controllers alertedthe FedEx Corporation aircraft
that their scopes just wentblack again.
If you care about this, theysaid, contact your airline and
try to get some pressure on themto fix this stuff.
The controller said accordingto a playback of the air traffic
(49:50):
control audio.
Now the pilot of the plane,identified as fedex 1989,
responded sorry to hear aboutthat.
Fedex said it's aware of theepisode and that his flight
arrived safely at hisdestination without any issues.
Now breakdowns in newark areintensified scrutiny on the
border state of air trafficcontrol critical infrastructure
(50:10):
to ensure the safety of some45,000 US flights carrying
nearly 3 million people each day.
Now.
The FAA said its towers areabout 40 years old and average.
The majority of its radar andtechnology systems are the same.
Now outdated technologies suchas floppy disk and paper strips
are commonplace in the airtraffic control tower.
(50:32):
Just think of that.
Just think of that we thinkthat's surprising, but it's
really not now the ustransportation secretary, sean
duffy, on thursday announced asweeping plan to upgrade their
air traffic control systemsacross the country over the next
three to four years.
I don't know who he's gonnaactually do it.
They must have to hire outsidepeople.
(50:53):
Uh, he's uh flanked by leadersof multiple major us airlines,
including united chief executiveofficer scott kirby, who also
says an overhaul is long overdue.
Just think of this flying intoa tower with your airplane and
all of a sudden they have to putthat floppy disk into the area
to boot up on hold.
(51:13):
I'm dead serious DOS things tosee your airplane coming on in
in a monochrome monitor.
Mike Gorday (51:21):
I'm not sure that that's how that works, but you
know good yeah.
Marc Gregoire (51:25):
So what is more stable generally as a computer
system, something running on DOSor something running on a
Windows server?
Nathan Mumm (51:32):
Come on answer that .
Okay, what happens when I putmy finger across the floppy disk
, shoving it in trying?
Marc Gregoire (51:37):
to make sure the point, the floppy disks are
troublesome yeah.
Mike Gorday (51:42):
There's a reason why space technology is behind
modern technology.
Nathan Mumm (51:47):
Why is?
Mike Gorday (51:47):
that, because it's more reliable.
Nathan Mumm (51:50):
So if it had tape or something like that, it's
just a floppiness I could justsee.
Marc Gregoire (51:52):
Well, what kind of floppiness With the five and
a quarter.
Nathan Mumm (51:54):
No, no no, no, no, no, no, no.
They're the big, the big,effing ones.
Oh, the old ones, yes, yes.
Marc Gregoire (52:06):
Oh my gosh because he's, he's back from
that era.
Nathan Mumm (52:09):
He's like I still have those at home.
All right, we're going to.
We're going to head out to ourlast commercial break.
When we return, we still haveour Nathan nugget.
See you after this.
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This is your Nugget of the Week.
Nathan Mumm (52:43):
All right, everybody, listen up.
Here's a way for you to get$100.
You can now submit your claimsto Apple's $95 dollar lawsuit
payout for siri spying on you.
Apple users have eight weeks toclaim up to 100 bucks.
Now eligible apple customerscan apply for their share of a
95 million dollar payout,because siri was listening to
(53:05):
you all the time yeah, we know,it happened on air yeah, on air.
Yeah, we did On air one time.
Remember that A website hasbeen set up to distribute the
funds allowing Apple deviceowners in the US who have
experienced an unintended Siriactivation during private
conversations between September17, 2014 and December 31, 2024.
Ten years, if you had an Appledevice, you can submit a claim.
(53:28):
Now the payout is related tothe 2019 class action lawsuit
that alleged apple wasinfringing on its users privacy
by capturing conversationsoverheard by the siri voice
assistant without consent,passing the recordings to a
third party.
Quality control contractorsthat then were compromised.
Now apple offered a formalapology and pledged to would no
longer retain users recording,but pushed back against
(53:51):
additional allegations that itallowed advertisers to target
customers based on seriesrecording data.
In January 2025, the companyagreed to pay the be submitted
up to five Siri-enabled devices,including an iPhone, an iPad,
(54:13):
apple Watch, a Mac, a HomePod,an iPad Touch and Apple TV,
provided the users swear underoath that the voice assistant
was unintentionally activated oneach device.
If approved, the settlementpays out or capped at $20 per
device Eligible.
Apple device owners alreadyreceived a claim, identification
code and confirmation and arealready in the process of being
(54:33):
notified about the settlement,but applications can still be
submitted by anybody, that is,you, who believes that you could
have been absolutely recordedwith their tool.
Mike Gorday (54:44):
So it's $20, not $100.
Nathan Mumm (54:46):
Well, you can get up to five devices, so 20 times
five.
Mike Gorday (54:50):
Well, it's a good thing, you can do math.
Nathan Mumm (54:54):
Well, those are one of the many great qualities
that you get here on Tech TimeRadio.
Marc Gregoire (54:58):
So, yes, I wonder the percentage of our listeners
that are Android versus Apple?
Nathan Mumm (55:06):
Well, I've had an Apple.
Marc Gregoire (55:07):
Well, you've got three of us up here, but I think
two of us can't submit a claim.
The three of us.
You've never had an Appledevice.
Mike Gorday (55:13):
No iPads.
I have an Apple iPhone workphone, okay, well, it could be
the same.
That's your work.
Nathan Mumm (55:18):
That's different.
Marc Gregoire (55:19):
That's my work phone.
Nathan Mumm (55:21):
I've had Apple devices since the eons of time.
Marc Gregoire (55:23):
I've personally never owned one.
I've got two phones.
Nathan Mumm (55:26):
Android and Apple.
Mike Gorday (55:28):
When's the Alexa app going to be sued?
I don't know, because that'shappened all the time.
Nathan Mumm (55:34):
Well, soon they're going to start supporting it if
you don't opt in to have themlisten to you at all times.
You know that we got a storythat we're going to talk about
next week about a lawsuit on avacuum device that took pictures
of this person because theytake pictures of the deal and
was used in a lawsuit when thisgal was drunk and she ended up
(55:57):
killing somebody.
They actually went back tofootage of her own private
vacuum, seeing that she wasdrunk before she got into the
car, and they could establish atimeline that she deliberately
was drinking.
Mike Gorday (56:08):
Her Roomba was following her around and taking
pictures of her.
Yeah.
Nathan Mumm (56:13):
It doesn't make you feel safe.
You buy a device, you bring ithome, then it takes pictures of
you and then it leaks out there.
Mike Gorday (56:18):
Now I understand why my Roomba sits in the middle
of the room and just likescrolls over and looks at me and
then scrolls back.
Yeah, that's what it's, uh-huh.
Nathan Mumm (56:27):
All right, now let's move on to our pick of the
day whiskey tasting.
Speaker 1 (56:32):
And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings
.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop.
Marc Gregoire (56:40):
So today we're sipping on High West Burai 2025,
batch 25A23.
This is a blend of bourbon andrye, five of them Over 10 years
old, 92 proof, $130.
I love this, I love this, youlove this.
Nathan Mumm (56:56):
Wow, I was completely wrong on that one.
I love this.
I thought it was fantastic.
I will give it a huge thumbs up.
Mine was gone before we evengot into it.
Marc Gregoire (57:04):
You should have known I bring bad whiskey.
You'd give it a thumbs up.
Mike Gorday (57:06):
Yeah, wow, I bring bad whiskey you give it a thumbs
up.
Yeah, wow, you were spot onwith me.
I like it, but it's not a hugethumbs up for me.
I will say this morningdrinking.
Marc Gregoire (57:15):
It was the best.
I've had it now probably fivedifferent days.
This was the best.
Maybe it takes a while to openup, or it's better to drink in
the afternoon.
There you go, that could be itor at night, when I normally do.
Nathan Mumm (57:27):
Okay, all righty.
Well, mike and listeners, we'rejust about out of time.
We want to thank you for beinga part of our program.
Listeners, we want to hear fromyou.
Visit techtimeradiocom, clickon, be A Caller, ask us a
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We have tons of people watchingour YouTube videos.
No, just put a comment in there.
I'm listening to you, nathan,and that will make me happy and
(57:48):
remember all of you out there.
The science of tomorrow startswith the technology of today.
We'll see you next week Later.
Bye-bye.
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Welcome everyone.
Let's start today's show.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Now on today's show.
Nathan Mumm (01:36):
All right, On today's show we're going to be
talking about three of the mostinteresting subjects to lead off
our series.
Then we have Gwen Wei joiningus with, of course, her Gadgets
in Gear segment, and we have atechnology fail that'll make you
not want to fly, that's right.
Plus, we have, of course,Mike's mesmerizing moment, our
technology fail of the week, andimpossible Nathan Nugget.
(01:56):
And, of course, our pick of theday whiskey tasting, To see if
it gets one, two or three thumbsup.
We're going to see if it getsone, two or three thumbs up.
We're going to see if Marklikes it too, since he's
drinking it today before the endof the show.
But now let's head on to thelatest headlines in the world of
technology.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Here are our top technology stories of the week.
Nathan Mumm (02:18):
All right Story number one, high above the
Arctic Circle, halfway betweenmainland Norway and the North
Pole.
North Pole.
Gwen Way (02:26):
Frozen the mainland Norway and the North.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Pole.
Gwen Way (02:27):
Frozen the North.
Nathan Mumm (02:28):
Pole.
Mike Gorday (02:29):
The North Pole Frozen mountainous and remote.
Nathan Mumm (02:34):
It's home of hundreds of polar bears and a
couple of sparse settlements.
And snowmen and the mostintensive collection of digital
data in the world.
Let's go to Lisa Walker formore on this story.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Long year by of digital data in the world.
Let's go to Lisa Walker formore on this story.
Longyear Bayan, the world'snorthernmost town, in a
decommissioned coal mine is theArctic World Archive, an
underground vault for data.
Customers pay to have theirdata stored on film and kept in
the vault for potentiallyhundreds of years.
This is a place to make surethat information survives
technology, obsolescence, timeand aging, says founder Rune
(03:10):
Bjerkestrand.
With a headlamp on, runedescends a dark passageway and
follows the old rail tracks justunder 1,000 feet into the
mountainside until we reach thearchive's metal door, just like
you see in the TV or game seriesFallout.
Inside the vault stands ashipping container stacked with
silver packets on which the datais stored.
(03:30):
It's a lot of memories, a lotof heritage, mr Bjergestrand
says.
It's anything from digitizedart pieces, literature, music,
motion pictures, you name it.
Okay, now that's cold storage.
Back to you guys in the studioAll right, so let's talk about
this.
Nathan Mumm (03:50):
What the fallout vault?
So there's a storage placeright, we just talked about it
All the way up next to the NorthPole, halfway between Norway
and the North Pole itself, andall this is is a storage that
stays sub-zero for people to puttheir storage in cold storage.
So cold storage is a term usedin data management all the time,
(04:14):
which means you normally takeoff-site storage and you move it
to some location.
So if I'm a business companyand I have information that I
want to be taken care of,there's a concern with that
maybe going into the wrong hands, maybe getting compromised on a
security breach.
What you do is you put it on abig drive and you send it off to
a cold storage place.
This, literally, though, is acold storage place.
(04:36):
Now, the archive company AWAlaunched eight years ago.
Now, more than 100 depositshave been made by institutions,
companies and individuals from30-plus countries.
Among these include artifactsof 3D scans of the Taj Mahal,
ancient manuscripts from theVatican Library, satellite
observations from Earth andspace, norway's treasured
(05:00):
painting, the Scream, and manydifferent stuff.
Now, this was inspired by theGlobal Seed Vault.
Have you heard about the GlobalSeed Vault?
Oh, yeah, okay, so the idea ofthe Global Seed Vault, kind of
the same thing.
Mike Gorday (05:10):
It's up there too, around the North Pearl.
Nathan Mumm (05:12):
That's right.
So it's only 100 feet away, sothe storage is a little bit.
So it's the same company thatowns the Global Seed Vault
decided that they should do astorage company with guess what?
Uh, data and technology nowrunes.
Says that there's a lot ofrisks with information and data
the terrorism, war, cyberhackers and this is far enough
(05:35):
away from everything that youwon't have to worry about it and
people can come and have thisinformation stored there.
Now it's interesting when youactually take a look at the
video of how they open this lock.
This this is like it soundskind of funny, but this lock is
like one of those locksmith typeof deal vault locks that I
would have on the back of mystorage shed or something into
(05:57):
that extent.
So it's pretty unsecure.
So all I'm thinking about whenI'm doing research on this
article is if I wanted to stealall of the information and some
spy deal.
You always see the spies gointo these places in the middle
of nowhere.
This would make perfect sensefor me just to break into this
location steal all theinformation.
Mike Gorday (06:15):
Are you playing Goldeneye Well?
Nathan Mumm (06:17):
I kind of?
That's exactly what I thoughtabout.
Is you know what?
Here's all this informationstorage.
I bring myself some boltcutters and guess what?
I can have all the storagethat's available, but it's in a
proprietary system on tape, soit's not necessarily just hard
drives you can grab, but I'msure it's pretty easy to take
care of.
Now the back of the chamber haslarge metal boxes containing
(06:37):
such items like GitHub's coldvault.
So GitHub is all the developerinformation's available.
They're pretty big information.
It's got software development,hundreds of reels of open source
code, the building blocks ofcomputer operating systems,
software websites, apps and more.
There's a public repository ofinformation written by over 150
(06:59):
million different users that arestored up there.
Now would you be okay?
What's really interesting isall of this is stored with QR
codes.
Mike Gorday (07:09):
Would I be okay?
Would I be okay with what?
Nathan Mumm (07:12):
So would you be okay with taking your
information, putting it up intothe middle of no man's land,
norway, to keep your securityinformation safe, in case the
world gets destroyed and thenpeople can travel up there?
Mike Gorday (07:26):
I guess up there maybe it'll be warm by then if
the the world you act like thisis like a library that you know
the world's gonna end and thenthe survivors are gonna be like,
hey, can I check out?
Nathan Mumm (07:35):
that's what he's selling it to.
He's selling to the client.
See how much it costs to buy adata tray of storage up there
how much does it cost about?
300 million dollars oh, wow 300.
Oh wow, $300 million to have?
Yeah, definitely, I'll do thattomorrow.
That's your starting deal toown a tray in his storage.
Now all he has to do is sell it.
I just think of this.
He sells it to like one personBoom, he's made his profit of
(07:55):
whatever he did to convincesomebody to throw a storage
container down in the middle of.
Mike Gorday (07:59):
He's got to pay for all that storage.
Nathan Mumm (08:02):
Well, clients pay to have their data stored there.
Transfer to tape have it takencare of Now?
This will save us from thedigital dark age is what they're
taking care of.
Many firms have offeredlong-term data storage.
Now cassettes and magnet tapes,known as LTRs, allow you to
store information and data thatcan be retrieved at a later time
.
Now Microsoft's working onProject Silica, which is
(08:24):
developing a two-millimeterthick plane of glass which a
chunk of data is transferred bypowerful lasers.
There's other universities outthere that have created the 5D
memory crystal that recordshuman genome and different
information there.
But this is now a place whereyou can store all of the great
stuff for mankind to retrieve itlater.
Mike Gorday (08:45):
Okay, all right.
Nathan Mumm (08:47):
Are you excited about that?
Well, I'm excited about that.
Mike Gorday (08:50):
I'm just always interested in your take on these
things, because you have such aweird view of it's, like would
you take your data and stick itin this place?
Nathan Mumm (09:00):
I don't know, I don't have 300 million bucks.
Okay, but if you're a companyand you're going to store
something there, this hasnothing to do with securing your
data.
Mike Gorday (09:09):
Okay, it has to do with securing your past.
Nathan Mumm (09:14):
Yeah.
Mike Gorday (09:14):
It's not about your data, it's about your past.
Nathan Mumm (09:16):
Okay, and we can talk about that later Maybe I'll
bring that up on yourmesmerizing moment.
Mike Gorday (09:20):
That's a very important piece of understanding
our human society is looking atthe things from our past.
Nathan Mumm (09:29):
Okay, all right.
I got a question for youalready in my head, all right,
okay, all right.
Are you ready for story numbertwo?
Sure, all right.
What do we got going?
Mike Gorday (09:36):
on.
Here we're going to talk aboutdinosaurs what, oh, you like
dinosaurs.
Nathan Mumm (09:39):
You play dinosaurs on video games all the time,
don't?
Mike Gorday (09:42):
you I'm.
Nathan Mumm (09:43):
I briefly considered becoming a
paleontologist when I startedwhen I started college, but I
did is that before jurassic parkor after jurassic park?
Mike Gorday (09:51):
uh, that was before jurassic okay, okay, okay so
yes, I don't know if you knowthis, but uh, they have
discovered dinosaur dna, right Ihave heard about that.
Yeah right saying while it waspreviously believed that
dinosaur DNA wouldn't survivefor millions of years, recent
discoveries have found collagenpreserved in various dinosaur
(10:12):
fossils.
Nathan Mumm (10:13):
Okay, including in the 80s.
This isn't the mosquito in theember.
No, no, no.
This is real stuff.
Mike Gorday (10:19):
You have to really get off the fiction here.
Nathan Mumm (10:21):
Okay, all right, okay, okay.
Mike Gorday (10:25):
So this is real.
No, I, I, yeah, absolutely so.
They found.
They even found one for an 80million year old t-rex.
Oh, wow, okay.
So last year, mit researchersdecoded how the collagen lasted
so long and, interestingly, theydiscovered a specific atomic
mechanism that shields collagenfrom water's damaging effects.
Isn't that awesome.
That's kind of cool, yeah, thathas nothing to do with the
(10:45):
story.
Oh, it doesn't.
You know what the story is?
Nathan Mumm (10:48):
Let's talk about the story.
What is that?
Mike Gorday (10:50):
It's like, okay, if you have dinosaur collagen,
what would you do with it?
Nathan Mumm (10:55):
I would probably rebuild a dinosaur, but I
wouldn't mix it with raptors.
Mike Gorday (10:59):
You might think so.
Okay, but we're going to talkabout how this company wants to
take all that wonderful dinosaurstuff and make handbags out of
it.
Nathan Mumm (11:09):
What, what?
Okay, so tell me more.
Mike Gorday (11:12):
What's going on here?
So Creative Powerhouse VML,genomic Innovators, the Organoid
Company and sustainablebiotechnology firm Lab Grown
Leather have joined forces todevelop the world's first t-rex
leather made using the extinctcreature's dna okay, so hang on.
Nathan Mumm (11:28):
So we find collagen , which is muscle tissue.
Mike Gorday (11:32):
We find this muscle tissue t-rex dna and the first
thing we we come to it is like Ineed to make a handbag.
It's just not enough.
Are you serious?
Okay, keep on going, I'm gonna.
You know it just not enough.
Nathan Mumm (11:43):
Are you serious?
Okay, keep on going, I'm goingto.
Mike Gorday (11:45):
you know, it's not enough that I'm going to go, and
, you know, kill an alligatorand make a bag out of that.
I'm going to, you know, dig upa fossil, yeah, Get its collagen
out of its bones and make ahandbag out of a T-Rex.
Nathan Mumm (11:58):
Oh boy, okay, all right, tell me more.
It sounds good.
Mike Gorday (12:07):
So sounds good.
So, as you know, the t-rex, orthe tyrannosaurus rex, was one
of the biggest and mostdangerous predators ever on the
face of the world, right, yep?
So these people are taking thisstuff, and reports suggest that
the first product could beavailable by year end okay they
claim this next gen material,but it could be a high quality,
cruelty free and eco-friendlyalternative to standard leather
(12:28):
okay, so hang on, so we can,maybe we can get.
Nathan Mumm (12:30):
We can get leather right now from from cows.
Right, so we can go and we canget leather, yeah, but
apparently that you know that'snot good enough for us now, so
we're taking it from deadcreatures, from dna millions and
millions of years ago and thenmake it into handbag.
So Gucci's all over this, huh.
Mike Gorday (12:47):
Yeah, okay, all right, okay, oh boy, okay.
So their quote is that thisproject is a remarkable example
of how we can harnesscutting-edge genome and protein
engineering to create entirelynew materials.
By reconstructing andoptimizing ancient protein
sequences, we can design T-Rexleather, a biomaterial inspired
(13:10):
by prehistoric biology, andclone it into custom engineered
cell line and then sell it toyou for the low, low price of
something, something howevermany dollars on late night tv
shows okay, okay, so so.
Nathan Mumm (13:25):
So.
So we're we're not okay withour current leather.
Uh, I don't know exploits, yeah, okay so?
Mike Gorday (13:31):
so collagen is a protein present that it skin and
muscles of various other bodilytissues.
Okay.
So in this thing, theT-Rex-based leather material
creation method differs fromplant-based or synthetic
alternatives by focusing ongrowing biological structures in
(13:54):
the lab.
Okay, Wow, okay, the t-rex tocultivate a new skin.
(14:14):
Wow, the sequence will betranslated into dna and
introduced into lab-grownleathers cells.
Okay, successful inimplementation of this process
is expected to yield a tightlypacked collagen structure
similar to the dermis layer ofanimal skin.
That's the, you know, the skin,okay, which remains after tan.
If successful, it will producea leather-like material derived
(14:37):
from the T-Rex DNA, and thenthey will fashion it into a
fashionable accessory and sellit to you on the open market.
Nathan Mumm (14:46):
Oh, wow, okay, Did you hear about the Mammoth
Meatball?
This is the same company.
Oh, this is the same companythat's doing the Mammoth
Meatball project.
Mike Gorday (15:01):
Yeah, vml is also behind the mammoth meatball
project oh my word which was abold endeavor that used
lab-grown meat derived fromreconstructed woolly mammoth dna
.
In 2023, I don't know whathappened to that.
Nathan Mumm (15:07):
So they did taste testing.
They spent all this time doingit it was nasty so.
So I believe what happened inthe mammoth meatball project is,
when they actually tried tosell it and had people taste it,
they're like this is like theworst thing ever.
Mike Gorday (15:19):
Probably yeah, and then that doesn't go to market.
Nathan Mumm (15:23):
You know what VML must be an interesting company
to work at I don't know.
We take DNA stuff and we try tomake common stuff like a
meatball.
Mike Gorday (15:29):
How do you make that leap?
I don't know.
Let's take all this wonderfulinformation from bygone years
and turn it into a handbag or,you know, give it out at Ikea.
Nathan Mumm (15:43):
Oh my gosh, I cannot believe this.
I'm going to be the new fashionvista walking down in LA.
I don't know.
Mike Gorday (15:50):
Stephen King should write a story about this.
About the leather.
Nathan Mumm (15:54):
T-Rex bag that eats people.
It starts going Okay, alright.
Well, guess what Story?
Number three doesn't.
Mike Gorday (16:04):
I don't know, is this an interesting story?
Well, it kind of is.
Nathan Mumm (16:08):
It is we're talking now about.
We now have an American Pope.
Yeah, that was great, so guesswhat we have a technology story
that's going to make him sohappy to hear about on one of
his Catholic priests.
Well, this Catholic priestdecided to steal over $40,000 of
parish funds to fuel hisaddiction to Mario Kart and
(16:31):
Candy Crush.
But the good news he's beenspared from jail.
Oh is that the good news.
Hang on.
How many upgrades do you needin a Mario Kart?
Now I play games online and Iplay Sea of Thieves and I have
paid for some skins that looklike Captain Jack and a couple
other things, clearly.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
But no more than about $20.
$40,000.
Nathan Mumm (16:51):
$40,000.
Now do you realize that whenyou play these games, you don't
get that back?
That digital asset over 10 or20 years will be gone.
So you spent forty thousanddollars on air well, see again.
Mike Gorday (17:05):
The funny thing is that you're focusing on the, the
, the aspect right, the, at thegame, the game he's spending
money on the game when what heactually did was siphon $40,000
from his parish.
Nathan Mumm (17:19):
Okay, he stole $40,000.
I still can't get over $40,000played for upgrades and for
video games.
Mike Gorday (17:27):
That's why sitting here next to you is always a
treat, because you're like Idon't know why I spend $40,000
on a video game and I'm likedude, this guy was stealing it
from his church to pay for hisgaming addiction.
Nathan Mumm (17:39):
Yeah, Lawrence Kozak, 52, pled guilty to
siphoning the funds from StThomas More Church in Pottstown,
Pennsylvania.
A sentence to 80 hours ofcommunity service.
What's that, Odie?
Ody (17:53):
What was the game?
Nathan Mumm (17:55):
Mario Kart and Candy Crush.
Mike Gorday (17:58):
I know there was some other stuff.
I think, there was some onlinegambling and stuff.
Nathan Mumm (18:03):
No, no, no, there wasn't, so this is the thing, Is
it 40K over the full year.
Ody (18:07):
No.
Nathan Mumm (18:07):
The court heard the priest and he used the parish
credit card to drop tens ofthousands of dollars on
power-ups and Mario Kart andother paid online content.
None of these resulted ingambling or receiving money back
, so these are all games.
If I got $40,000.
Mike Gorday (18:26):
I thought he was doing online gambling.
No, no, no.
Nathan Mumm (18:29):
That's what it gets me.
No, so he's not making anyadditional finances.
Mike Gorday (18:34):
What was the time frame of this?
Over two years.
Ody (18:35):
Okay, so like $20, making any additional finances.
What was the time?
Frame of this.
Nathan Mumm (18:37):
Over two years.
Ody (18:38):
Okay, so like 20K a year, what type of upgrades Are you
trying to make?
Mike Gorday (18:45):
this an easier pill to swallow?
No, no, no, no, no.
I just try to understand 40K ina year.
Nathan Mumm (18:50):
No over two years.
Ody (18:51):
Okay, see that.
Yes, I guess it is easier toswallow that.
He stole 40Kk I know, but themario kart I don't understand.
The candy crush, I can so seethat happening really how much
money?
Mike Gorday (19:04):
it's a very addictive candy all you do is
you match stuff?
Ody (19:08):
it's texas people fall for those stinking power-ups and
like upgrades.
What?
Nathan Mumm (19:14):
oh, it's a very common thing, you make nothing
of it.
Ody (19:17):
I wish I could look up, like the most popular players of
candy crush and see how muchthey've spent overall why would
you pay any money to pay atetris game to do this?
Gwen Way (19:26):
every single, every you know, you know every.
Mike Gorday (19:29):
What mobile games do you play, buddy?
We know that you play mobilegames.
One of these mobile games I Iplay a football game.
Ody (19:37):
They don't have a pack or something.
Nathan Mumm (19:39):
No, I buy $9 for the game and I play it until I
get taken care of.
I don't play tons of mobilegames, but what I do.
I have a chess game on there.
It's free.
I play a couple other things,but that's it.
I do not play Now.
I doom scroll all the timethrough.
Ody (19:56):
TikTok.
No, no, no, it's not doomscrolling.
I do not play games on my phone.
Mike Gorday (20:00):
Clearly you need to hang out with Father Kozak here
and figure out what the draw is.
Nathan Mumm (20:06):
All right, okay, well, he also did what's really
nice.
He took some of that money andhe got his niece a fire tablet
and a couple other things also.
He was a good guy, alright,well.
Mike Gorday (20:18):
Was he.
He only got 80 hours ofcommunity service for that
$40,000.
Nathan Mumm (20:23):
And you know, he may end up being fat.
Mike Gorday (20:26):
It's good that Christian people are forgiving
you know what.
Nathan Mumm (20:32):
He is only on administrative leave and he'll
probably pop up someplace elsein the United States.
Mike Gorday (20:38):
Yeah, Well, we've seen this before right.
In very different circumstancesfor priests?
Yeah, okay.
Nathan Mumm (20:47):
Well, that is our top technology stories of the
week.
Moving on, gwen will be joiningus for our gadgets and gear
segment.
Next, buckle up as we drive 88miles per hour into our next
segment.
We'll catch you after thisbreak.
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Nathan Mumm (21:50):
All right, welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan
Mumm, our weekly show coverage.
Mike Gorday (21:53):
I don't know that doesn't trump T-Rex wallets.
Nathan Mumm (21:55):
Does it?
Or how about storing yourstorage in the middle of no
man's land?
That makes norway right.
So we got they're gonna.
Mike Gorday (22:02):
They're gonna store the t-rex wallets in the in the
bin, are they with all with themammoth meatballs?
That's right, we'll go back totech time.
Nathan Mumm (22:11):
if you haven't, if you're just joining us midway
through the show and you saywhat, what the heck are you
talking about?
Go back for the next 15 minutesand you'll get everything that
you need to.
Now.
We are a technology show thattalks about subjects weeks ahead
of the mainstream media.
We verify the facts, we do itwith a sense of humor, in less
than 60 minutes and, of course,with a little whiskey on the
side.
Today, mark Gregoire WhiskeyConnoisseurs in studio.
Marc Gregoire (22:39):
Mark.
What connoisseurs in studio,mark?
What have you chosen for ustoday?
Today we have high west burrrye 2025.
This is batch 25a23 now fromhigh west website.
This is a unique and premiumblend of rich bourbon and rye
whiskeys, making for a premiersipping whiskey and one of high
west's all-time favorites.
Now, since this is not verydescriptive, I also bring you
david tau from drink hacker.
He says the palate is easier topin down toffee, milk chocolate
(23:03):
and pecan brittle lead with alittle sweetness.
These elements are balanced bya hint of salinity and dried
fruit think salted driedapricots.
It's one of the top high westburr-rize he's ever tried and
flat out among the best bourbonand rye blends he's sipped in
recent memory.
Nathan Mumm (23:23):
You thought that you had some predictions on who
would like this and who wouldn'tlike this.
Marc Gregoire (23:28):
We can say that for the mumbles Okay, okay, okay
.
Nathan Mumm (23:31):
We're just talking about the whiskey.
Tell us more.
Marc Gregoire (23:39):
So this is from Constellation Brands, of course,
who own High West.
The distillation is from Utah,indiana and Kentucky and it's a
blend of both, as we said,straight whiskeys of bourbon and
rye.
It's over 10 years old,everything in there, it's 92
proof and it's a blend of fivemash bills Two of them are rye
and three of them are bourbonsand it goes for $130.
Mike Gorday (24:04):
Well, we know where this one's not going.
That's not going on a Nathanshelf.
Nathan Mumm (24:07):
Hey, did you see my top shelf over there?
It's very bare.
I just had a wedding this lastweekend, did you?
Mike Gorday (24:13):
take all your top shelf.
Yeah, we drank heavily, I.
There's something.
There must be some correlationwith how much, how much liquor
you put away and how you feltabout that wedding.
Nathan Mumm (24:24):
Oh yeah, you're gonna have to hear about that
all offline, oh boy all rightnow.
Marc Gregoire (24:28):
Now, whether you're at a wedding or you're
sitting on a radio show, alwaysdrink responsibly.
Mike Gorday (24:33):
Heaven can wait okay, nathan didn't drink
responsibly.
Nathan Mumm (24:39):
We had lots of people there.
There was at least 10 or 20people there.
Mike Gorday (24:41):
He got drunk and bought power-ups from Mario Kart
.
Nathan Mumm (24:45):
I did not.
That's $40,000.
Alright, with our first whiskeytasting completed.
Mike Gorday (24:51):
The first what tasting?
Nathan Mumm (24:53):
Our whiskey tasting completed, we are now moving on
to our feature segment.
Today we have Gwen Way joiningthe show.
She's an expert in cybersecurity during the day and a
game board geek in the evening,as well as the producer of Tech
Time Radio.
Now our gadgets and gear gal isset for today.
Let's get ready to start ourComcast video stream now.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
What's new in our gadgets and gear.
Nathan Mumm (25:17):
All right, hi Gwen, hi Gwen, hi, welcome to the
show.
Tell us a little bit aboutyourself for all of the new
listeners.
Gwen Way (25:25):
Certainly.
Certainly.
I have been in the technologyspace not quite as long as
Nathan.
I've put in a quarter of acentury, though, so I feel
pretty good about that.
And uh yeah, like you say, myfocus is cyber security at this
point, but I've done a littlebit of everything okay, all
right now.
Nathan Mumm (25:44):
The best part about gwen is she does all of our
gadgets and gears this as westarted this show five years now
, are you sure?
Mike Gorday (25:50):
are you sure it's five years?
I am, I mean, sure it's fiveyears ago.
Okay, I'm just checking.
Just checking, because youalways get it wrong.
Now, I used to do this.
Nathan Mumm (25:57):
I used to do this segments and guess what happened
?
My pocketbook just blew up,because what I'd end up doing is
I'd buy stuff that we talkabout on the show, and then I'd
buy stuff that we didn't talkabout on the show.
Marc Gregoire (26:12):
You're thinking the whiskey segment?
Mike Gorday (26:14):
And I did.
Marc Gregoire (26:15):
And that's where you got all these bad bottles
that are sitting on your shelf.
Mike Gorday (26:19):
We all know that you still buy the stuff I do.
I was just at Wise and More andhere I am texting.
Nathan Mumm (26:26):
Mark.
I'm texting.
Mark, what do you think aboutthis?
What about this?
And Mark just responds back youmust be at Wine and More.
Those are all cheap whiskeys.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
Isn't that what you said to?
Nathan Mumm (26:33):
me.
Yeah, that's what you said tome All right, okay, gwen, what
is this project?
Now, we've done a lot of stufffor you.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
You like having, which is great, because you do a
good job and that saves me somemoney.
You know that I'm a gadget guyfor like little robots.
Nathan Mumm (26:48):
I love little robots, so that's kind of my
deal.
Mike Gorday (26:50):
But this is something he can get in trouble
with.
Nathan Mumm (26:56):
I've got two of these already that I've
purchased.
Let me just tell you this?
Gwen Way (26:59):
What is this unit?
This is right up your alley,yes, it is.
So for all of our listeners,have you ever wondered how
secure your home network is, ormaybe your friends or family
network?
Well, guess what?
This is a great tool to testthat out.
Well, guess what?
This is a great tool to testthat out.
(27:22):
If you go to kickstartercom andsearch for interrupt
I-N-T-E-R-R-U-P-T, you get thiswonderful pocket gadget for
hackers.
Nathan Mumm (27:34):
Now I have one that I've used a lot and I really,
really, really like, but I thinkthis one is actually going to
be the number one on my list.
Tell us what this does, whatyou can use it for, what the
form factor is.
Mike Gorday (27:48):
I mean, this is perfectly Nathan's gift, and
then we'll guess why Nathanlikes it so much.
Exactly, you know what I'm?
Nathan Mumm (27:52):
getting one for my wife's birthday is coming on up
and I decided, you know, Ishould buy her one too, so that
way you're getting yourself apress up for your wife's
birthday.
Gwen Way (27:59):
What is she going to do with?
Nathan Mumm (28:00):
it.
She's going to give it back tome and say here you go, honey
take care of it.
Mike Gorday (28:04):
Here's your spare in case you lose one.
That's right, yes.
Gwen Way (28:09):
In case.
I think it'll be just as vacuumcleaner.
Nathan Mumm (28:11):
Oh boy, okay, okay, tell us more about this object.
Gwen Way (28:14):
All right, this is a wonderful little toy.
It's a little bigger than aGame Boy.
It looks very much like a GameBoy, except a Game Boy with a
full QWERTY keyboard and a colortouch screen.
What this particular toy letsyou do is hack into your own
network to test and see how easyit is to get in there and mess
(28:38):
around with stuff.
Or, you know, friends, family,keep everybody safe.
It's very important to keepcybersecurity top of mind these
days.
Nathan Mumm (28:47):
All right, so you can get into your network.
Mike Gorday (28:48):
Or go into a bar and change all the TV stations.
Gwen Way (28:51):
Well, let's say we do not condone that behavior.
Nathan Mumm (28:55):
Let me ask.
However, it could be used itcould be that okay, so I'm gonna
I'm gonna go through somequestions because you were with
uh.
You were in a bar when I didthat, all right, okay.
All right, I'm gonna ask yousome questions on what this
device can do or cannot do.
A little off script here.
I know that we have a differentthing, but I'm gonna ask you
tell me if it can do it or if Ican't do it.
(29:15):
Okay, can this intercept uh nfclike credit cards, prox cards
and grab the identifications ofprox cards?
Gwen Way (29:26):
it can it can.
Nathan Mumm (29:27):
Okay, oh, number one.
Okay, can this find infraredand ir signals and overtake them
and become the main remote forthem?
Gwen Way (29:38):
TX and RX.
Yes, yes.
Nathan Mumm (29:41):
Okay, all right.
Can this connect into hardwirenetworks and take over and
capture data from a network?
Gwen Way (29:52):
Sure can.
Nathan Mumm (29:53):
How about wireless networks?
Let's just throw it up there, awireless network, sure can.
How about wireless networks?
Let's just throw it up there.
A wireless network.
That I wanted, of course, onlymy own wireless network, not my
next door, neighbors or somebodyin a public location.
But can it capture wireless keylogging information for a
network?
Gwen Way (30:09):
It could absolutely connect to a wireless network,
your wireless network, and makesure that you can figure out
what people are going to be ableto grab off of it.
Nathan Mumm (30:19):
Yeah, Okay, alright Now.
Mike Gorday (30:22):
So how is this a toy?
Nathan Mumm (30:24):
Well, this is an experiment.
Mike Gorday (30:26):
We started this off with it being a toy.
Now it's like this horrible.
No, it's a stem product.
Nathan Mumm (30:33):
No, it's a stem product.
That's what I tell everybody.
Those are stem products, right.
Gwen Way (30:37):
Stem is good, Stem is good.
You could also just say youknow, you're wanting to keep
yourself safe and just validate.
Nathan Mumm (30:44):
that Is this one of the perils of having Amazon
walkway or whatever the heckthat is.
That's a completely differentpath of treachery that we can
get into.
So this device I can configure.
Now I'm sure it doesn't comewith this.
So there's, you're going toit's going to come with like a
standard OS and then you have toload these little things side
loaded so that you actually getit on the unit itself.
(31:04):
Or does it actually come loadedwith these tools available
right out of the box?
Gwen Way (31:09):
It actually comes loaded with the tools.
Oh my word.
It will work with multipledifferent linux distributions,
but they are also working ontheir own linux distribution,
which will make things a littleeasier you know you're joking
about getting this for for yourwife.
Marc Gregoire (31:24):
Yeah, I'm thinking if she actually got
this for you, there's nothingmore she could do to turn you on
and give you.
So this is this would be that'strue all right, wow, yeah, so
now.
Nathan Mumm (31:34):
But this could actually be used for a good
business sense.
Let's say, you're not trying tobe a nefarious hacker, but if
you wanted to use it, tell mehow it can be used
non-nefariously.
Marc Gregoire (31:44):
Okay, hang on here, hang on here, so this is
what it can be used for.
Gwen Way (31:52):
Let's say, I'm a company and I have this thing
laying around, well, well I ifyou want to get into pen testing
, because pen testing can costtens of thousands of dollars for
companies and for smallcompanies that's an extremely
large amount of money.
So if you work at a smallcompany, you could certainly go
in and run a pen test to see howsecure your company is.
Nathan Mumm (32:16):
All right, now let's talk about the price.
I got some more informationhere, so a tool like this must
be at least $1,500.
Or let's say probably no, no,$900.
Try again.
Oh no, let's move down now.
Come on 500 bucks.
Marc Gregoire (32:33):
You've already bought a few.
Nathan Mumm (32:34):
You've already bought two few You've already
bought two.
Mike Gorday (32:37):
He already knows.
Nathan Mumm (32:38):
Could this be a $179 product?
Gwen Way (32:43):
Unfortunately, all of the early birds have been
purchased, but right now it's$199 or you can get two For $389
.
Marc Gregoire (32:53):
How many early birds were there that Nathan
bought?
Nathan Mumm (32:56):
I didn't get the early bird.
I did not get the early bird, Igot the package for two.
Yeah, but here's the deal.
Mike Gorday (33:03):
Here's the big selling point, though right Out
of all the technologygobbledygook that he just spit
out on the radio, we all knowthat the reason why you love
this is because of the stupidkeyboard.
I do.
Gwen Way (33:17):
He does have a full.
Speaker 8 (33:18):
QWERTY keyboard.
It's a beautiful thing.
Gwen Way (33:21):
It's like a big it's bringing back it's a BlackBerry.
Nathan Mumm (33:24):
It's a bigger version of a BlackBerry hacking
device BlackBerry is walkingaround.
Gwen Way (33:28):
Are there more of the old sidekick phones where you
split them out?
Oh yeah, I'm just getting soexcited.
All right, okay, all right.
And in answer to your question,mark, there were a thousand
early birds that have alreadysold.
Marc Gregoire (33:40):
So this is a hot product.
Gwen Way (33:42):
It's pretty popular?
Nathan Mumm (33:43):
Oh, come on.
Mike Gorday (33:44):
Of course it is Because everybody wants to be
hanging around in the bar andchange the channels All of a
sudden you go through.
Gwen Way (33:51):
Now I'm just imagining Nathan fighting with somebody
on the other side of the bar.
Nathan Mumm (33:54):
Oh, I know I'd be like listen buddy, I'm going to
be quicker on my See, that'swhat I would do, remember when I
turned off all the TVs.
Was it all the TVs or just?
Marc Gregoire (34:04):
one, it was just the main one.
Or at the regular bar, at thebar, at the bar.
Mike Gorday (34:16):
Yeah, we were at the bar and he has his little
gadget and he's like watch thisand sorry, like what, and he's
turning the channels on the maintv people are like.
The poor bartender is overthere.
He keeps grabbing the thing.
Marc Gregoire (34:22):
Doesn't this come with a warning, turning it off?
Don't do this at airports,because security will confiscate
.
Nathan Mumm (34:27):
Uh, yeah, you gotta be careful flipper is not uh
airport safe all right, explain,how do you know?
That okay, all right, explainhow many units have been bought
and how many of these areavailable, where I can go and
get it.
A little bit about the companyIs this their first Kickstarter,
or tell us the big details now.
Gwen Way (34:47):
So this is the company's first Kickstarter.
They are out of Edmond Oklahoma, so they are made in the USA.
They're sooner yeah of Edmond,oklahoma, so they are made in
the USA.
They're sooner.
Yeah, they've got a lot of goodinformation on their
Kickstarter page, so go tokickstartercom and search for
Interrupt and that'll pull up.
They've had 1,900 sold alreadyWow and have already breaked in
(35:13):
about 385,000 of the $10,000goal.
So they're doing really welland if you want one and I highly
recommend it you need topurchase it by June 3rd.
Nathan Mumm (35:25):
June 3rd.
Alright, don't let that dateget you by, and if so, then I'm
going to rush out right now andget one so.
Gwen Way (35:32):
I can F with my neighbor's TV, just so you can
fight with Nathan.
Nathan Mumm (35:36):
You can out right now and get one so I can F with
my neighbor's TV, just so youcan fight with Nathan.
You could take down all of yournext door neighbor's wireless
signals, have them all lockedand secured and then you could
be the only one that's gettingthat internet signal from.
Again, we do not condone thisbehavior.
Mike smiled there.
Mike Gorday (35:49):
I'm going to start running a protection wing.
Marc Gregoire (35:51):
There you go.
Mike Gorday (35:52):
You want your internet back.
Okay, that's right now.
The other question is put somemoney in an envelope clearly
slide it under my door.
Nathan Mumm (36:01):
We know that.
Uh, nathan's got one, but, gwen, all of our listeners want to
know did you buy one of theseunits?
Gwen Way (36:06):
oh, absolutely, I'm going to have so much fun
playing around with it and, uh,maybe I'll recommend it to some
of my customers.
We'll see so.
Mike Gorday (36:15):
I don't need to talk about human behavior and
and why I'm so, why I'm sofreaked out about technology.
I just want to pen test stuff.
Nathan Mumm (36:25):
I'm not looking to do anything nefarious, I just
want to pen test stuff.
Exactly what are you talkingabout?
Okay, all right, here we go.
All right, gwen, thank you somuch for being a part of our
show.
You do a great job each week,and I want to thank you so much
for finding this device andmaking my pocketbook disappear
300 plus bucks.
Gwen Way (36:44):
You are very welcome.
Nathan Mumm (36:45):
All right, We'll see you next month.
All right, we want to thankGwen for being a part of the
show.
She does a great job findingthe most unique items each month
for tech time radio.
Though let's move on to Mike'smesmerizing moment.
Welcome to Mike's mesmerizingmoment.
What does Mike have to saytoday?
Marc Gregoire (37:05):
I'm so curious what question you're going to
ask him.
Nathan Mumm (37:07):
Okay.
Marc Gregoire (37:08):
Because there's just so many questions from
today.
Nathan Mumm (37:10):
There's so many, all right.
So, mike, do you care aboutpreserving the history of our
world?
Now we're spending millions ofdollars to do so, but what about
how it was done traditionallythrough books and scrolls over
these thousands of years?
Why are we now using thisdigital?
Mike Gorday (37:25):
why are you asking me if I care?
I don't, I don't care about itdo you care about it at all?
No, okay this is.
This is one of the mostimportant things that we can do
as human beings is protect ourhistory and understand our
history and preserve our history.
(37:46):
Okay, I mean, we've talkedabout we've talked about the
eroding internet over the last10 years, right, and how what
was originally on the internetis being scraped off and not not
being preserved at all.
Right, this is a bad idea.
Okay, this keeps these kind ofthings, keep us grounded in what
(38:14):
we're doing, and it also, youknow, when you talk about the
vault you talked about, you know, if something happens and we
need to rebuild civilization,this is going to be an important
understanding of thatrebuilding okay so, yeah, I care
about preserving the history ofthe world.
(38:35):
Now, when that particular savinghas a very high price tag on it
, then you know the the limitsare.
You're getting only a certaincross section of the information
history and that informationand that will skew the actuality
of our world history.
Nathan Mumm (38:59):
So so there's organizations out there like the
way back machine that tries totake screenshots of, like old
internet sites, right, and sothat you can keep the history of
that.
Is it worth keeping thathistory?
Do we need that history orshould we just be putting this
down in old analog format sothat people can do this?
Mike Gorday (39:16):
It tells us who we are.
It also tells us you know.
It can tell us how we mademistakes if we pay attention to
it.
It tells us where we came from.
It tells us so much stuff thatif you get rid of this stuff
we've talked about this beforegetting rid of all this stuff
and not preserving itdisconnects us from our path.
(39:42):
It disconnects human beingsfrom where they came from, and
that's a dangerous thing.
Okay, all right, well.
Nathan Mumm (39:48):
Mike, thank, and that's a dangerous way.
Okay, okay, all right.
Well, Mike, thank you for thatmesmerizing moment.
Mike Gorday (39:52):
Now I need to go and find a T-Rex handbag.
Nathan Mumm (39:55):
Okay, up.
Next we have this Week inTechnology, so now would be a
great time to enjoy a littlewhiskey on the side, as we're
going to be doing so during thebreak.
You're listening to Tech TimeRadio with Nathan Mumm.
See you in a few minutes.
Hey, Mike, yeah what's up, hey,so you know what.
We need people to start likingour social media page.
Mike Gorday (40:11):
If you like our show, if you really like us we
could use your support onPatreoncom, or is it Patreon?
I think it's Patreon.
Okay, patreon, if you reallylike us, you can like us in
Patreoncom.
Nathan Mumm (40:24):
I butcher the English language.
You know, you butcher theEnglish language all the time
it's patreoncom.
Mike Gorday (40:32):
If you really like our show, you can subscribe to
patreoncom and help us out, andyou can visit us on that
Facebook platform.
Nathan Mumm (40:38):
You know, the one that Zuckerberg owns, the one
that we always bag on.
Yeah, we're on Facebook too.
Yeah, like us on Facebook.
Do you know what our Facebookpage is?
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At Tech Time Radio, you knowwhat?
There's a trend here?
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It seems to be that there's a trend and that's Tech
Time Radio, or you can evenInstagram with us.
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That's at Tech Time Radio.
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Or you can find us on TikTok,and it's Tech Time Radio.
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Like and subscribe to oursocial media Like us today we
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That's it, it's that simple.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
And now let's look back at this week in technology.
Nathan Mumm (41:18):
All right, we're going into the Wayback Machine
of May 17th 1939.
The very first sports TVbroadcast happened.
Now NBC carries the firstbroadcast.
Is that really?
Mike Gorday (41:28):
1939.
Nathan Mumm (41:29):
Yep First TV broadcast happened.
Now NBC carries the firstbroadcast.
Is that really 1939, yep firstTV broadcast.
Nbc carries the first broadcasttelevised sporting event in
history the second game of adoubleheader baseball game
between Columbia and Princeton.
Only about 400 TV sets werecapable of receiving the
transmission, but it was animportant first step in the
history of televised sports.
Now NBC would later broadcast aMajor League Baseball game in
August of the the transmission,but it was an important first
(41:49):
step in the history of televisedsports.
Now NBC would later broadcast aMajor League Baseball game in
August of the same year and thecollege football game in
September, closely followed bythe NFL game in October.
There you go.
Mike Gorday (42:03):
Shouldn't that be the first broadcast in America
First?
Nathan Mumm (42:08):
sports TV broadcast .
Well, so there is a discrepancya little bit about a broadcast
that happened during theolympics over uh in germany.
Yeah, right, so that was a partof the story that we originally
looked at on our uh upcoming uh, when we do our show prep on
thursdays for our show, right,when I actually looked into it,
(42:28):
it seems like that broadcastnever happened.
They video recorded and thenthey delayed broadcasts, so it
wasn't really a broadcast, itwas a recording that was later
played.
So do you like that?
Sure, so now it surprised you,didn't you?
Mike Gorday (42:43):
No, okay, there you go, you never surprise me.
Nathan Mumm (42:46):
Alright, so this was the first TV live sporting
event that was broadcast.
Mike Gorday (42:50):
Okay, that's the key right.
Nathan Mumm (42:51):
Yes.
Mike Gorday (42:51):
The first live broadcast.
Nathan Mumm (42:53):
Yes, so it doesn't do any good to videotape and
then record it later.
Okay, all right.
Well, that was this week intechnology.
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When we return, we have Mark'smobile whiskey review.
(43:14):
See you after this.
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Speaker 1 (44:19):
The segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's
Whiskey, mumble, alrighty, oh,today, May 13th, we are all
celebrating All righty.
Marc Gregoire (44:33):
Oh, today, may 13th, we are all celebrating.
Yes, what are we allcelebrating?
Mike Gorday (44:37):
today, I have no idea.
Nathan Mumm (44:39):
T-Rex wallets.
Mike just wants a T-X rock, nomatter what they come out.
You want a T-X wallet, don'tyou?
Mike Gorday (44:44):
No.
Nathan Mumm (44:45):
I want to make jokes about it.
That's all I want to do.
I think that's the mostridiculous thing I've heard I'm
going to buy you a Velcro walletwith a T-Rex on it.
Mike Gorday (44:53):
All this stuff, the thing they come up with.
Let's make a leather bag.
Ody (44:56):
What are we celebrating today, Mark?
Marc Gregoire (44:58):
Thank you, Odie.
We are celebrating NationalLeprechaun Day.
What Wow?
Okay.
Though the exact history, Odie,of National Leprechaun Day is
unknown, what is clear is theday is dedicated to celebrating
leprechauns.
Mike Gorday (45:10):
Can't make me pot of gold.
Marc Gregoire (45:12):
Supernatural beings.
In Irish folklore, the legendof leprechauns can be traced
back to the 8th century, whenthe lore began to spread among
the Celtics.
Whether or not you believe theyexist and hopefully nobody does
, but today is a good day to letyour imagination run loose.
Nathan Mumm (45:28):
Frosted Lucky Charms.
They're magically delicious.
That's exactly what I expectedfrom Nathan was Lucky Charms.
Mike Gorday (45:40):
Hey, the marshmallows were the best part
about that.
Right, I thought of that stupidmovie that Jennifer Aniston did
.
Speaker 6 (45:45):
I think it was her first movie.
Mike Gorday (45:46):
Oh, was it actually called Leprechaun.
Nathan Mumm (45:47):
Is it called Leprechaun?
It's Leprechaun.
Is it called Leprechaun?
It's.
Mike Gorday (45:49):
Leprechaun.
Marc Gregoire (45:50):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 5 (45:51):
Oh, that was like a horror movie.
Mike Gorday (45:53):
Yeah, it was this funny horror movie.
Okay, it was funny.
Nathan Mumm (45:56):
Was it funny.
Mike Gorday (45:57):
Yeah, it was funny.
It was a funny horror movie.
Marc Gregoire (45:59):
All right.
Now another legend out there.
Only way to catch a glimpse ofthe cunning and elusive
jackalope is to enjoy a glass oftruly incredible whiskey.
Oh, that is why they made BurrRye a blend of bourbon and rye.
Like the jackalope itself, it'sunique, mysterious and gone in
(46:22):
a flash.
Nathan Mumm (46:23):
Or you could go to Disney's Animal Kingdom park and
you can get in a tour and youcan see a jackalope run all
around on the terrace there, thejackalope population is always
reduced by the chupacabrapopulation.
What's that?
Mike Gorday (46:39):
You don't know what a chupacabra is.
Marc Gregoire (46:40):
No, Wow, mexican folklore.
Mike Gorday (46:44):
That's folklore.
It's a goat sucker.
Ody (46:46):
Or you could watch the Bounded Pixar short.
It has a jackalope in it.
Mike Gorday (46:50):
Oh there you go Okay, all righty, we need to get
some collagen so we can make ajackalope wallet.
Okay, all right.
Or a bag.
Speaker 5 (46:59):
Okay, so I can put my hacking tool in.
Marc Gregoire (47:02):
Let's talk about the whiskey, I've always enjoyed
Burr Rye's All right.
I love that that blend of ryeand bourbon and one of my
favorites was a past release ofthis whiskey from high west.
Now, after searching for years,I was thrilled to finally track
down a bottle of the 2025release and actually get a
bottle myself of this.
Unfortunately, my excitementquickly faded after opening it
(47:25):
now.
While david from drink drinkhacker found it impressive, I
find this release slightlyastringent and lacking in depth
and complexity.
It just did not live up to myexpectations or my memory of
previous expressions.
What makes this harder is thatI found a second bottle and
excitedly reached out to WhiskeyChris, who asked me to pick one
(47:46):
up for him as well.
Nathan Mumm (47:47):
Oh, whiskey Chris, I like Whiskey Chris, does he?
Like this Nathan's.
Who asked?
Marc Gregoire (47:50):
me to pick one up for him as well.
Oh, risky Chris, I like Whiskey.
Chris, what is it?
Does he like this?
Mike Gorday (47:51):
Nathan's been having a lot of whiskey
apparently.
Marc Gregoire (47:54):
Yeah, at this price point of $130,.
I really hope he agrees withDavid and not me.
Nathan Mumm (47:59):
Okay, I don't want to say what I'm thinking.
Marc Gregoire (48:03):
I'll give my guesses.
Yeah, because I had guessedthat this is a thumbs down for
Nathan, okay, and I had guessedMike will probably give it a
thumbs up, but not a big thumbsup.
That was my guess.
Okay, all right, we'll see howthat plays out.
Mike Gorday (48:17):
We'll see how it plays out.
Marc Gregoire (48:18):
I'm hoping to be wrong.
I hope you both give it bigthumbs up.
Mike Gorday (48:21):
We need to put all this data in the cold storage.
Nathan Mumm (48:26):
All right.
Whiskey and technology aregreat pairings, like Babe Ruth
and Home Runs, or like Babe Ruthand drinking before a baseball
game, or like drinking before atext show.
Mike Gorday (48:36):
Or a wedding.
Nathan Mumm (48:38):
Why would you?
Marc Gregoire (48:38):
go Babe Ruth and Home Runs.
He was so many people.
Nathan Mumm (48:43):
Back in the day he was the only guy that could just
be totally lit drunk and go onout in a baseball game and
either pitch and win or hit acouple home runs and barely walk
the bases and still win.
Marc Gregoire (48:56):
I think there's various MLB players out there
that would disagree with you.
Mike Gorday (49:01):
This is why sitting next to Nathan is always a fun
day.
Because, he comes up with thesereally off the topic, off the
weird things, all right.
Nathan Mumm (49:09):
Well, now let's prepare for our technology fail
of the week, brought to us byElitics.
How?
Marc Gregoire (49:13):
are you doing?
Nathan Mumm (49:14):
Karen, congratulations, you're a
failure.
Speaker 8 (49:19):
Oh, I failed.
Did I yes, did I yes.
Nathan Mumm (49:23):
All right, our technology fail.
Comes to us from NewarkAirports.
Mike Gorday (49:28):
Newark.
Nathan Mumm (49:28):
New Jersey, yep, newark airports were hit with
another 92nd radar outageshortly before 4 am local time
last Friday.
Air traffic controllers alertedthe FedEx Corporation aircraft
that their scopes just wentblack again.
If you care about this, theysaid, contact your airline and
try to get some pressure on themto fix this stuff.
The controller said accordingto a playback of the air traffic
(49:50):
control audio.
Now the pilot of the plane,identified as fedex 1989,
responded sorry to hear aboutthat.
Fedex said it's aware of theepisode and that his flight
arrived safely at hisdestination without any issues.
Now breakdowns in newark areintensified scrutiny on the
border state of air trafficcontrol critical infrastructure
(50:10):
to ensure the safety of some45,000 US flights carrying
nearly 3 million people each day.
Now.
The FAA said its towers areabout 40 years old and average.
The majority of its radar andtechnology systems are the same.
Now outdated technologies suchas floppy disk and paper strips
are commonplace in the airtraffic control tower.
(50:32):
Just think of that.
Just think of that we thinkthat's surprising, but it's
really not now the ustransportation secretary, sean
duffy, on thursday announced asweeping plan to upgrade their
air traffic control systemsacross the country over the next
three to four years.
I don't know who he's gonnaactually do it.
They must have to hire outsidepeople.
(50:53):
Uh, he's uh flanked by leadersof multiple major us airlines,
including united chief executiveofficer scott kirby, who also
says an overhaul is long overdue.
Just think of this flying intoa tower with your airplane and
all of a sudden they have to putthat floppy disk into the area
to boot up on hold.
(51:13):
I'm dead serious DOS things tosee your airplane coming on in
in a monochrome monitor.
Mike Gorday (51:21):
I'm not sure that that's how that works, but you
know good yeah.
Marc Gregoire (51:25):
So what is more stable generally as a computer
system, something running on DOSor something running on a
Windows server?
Nathan Mumm (51:32):
Come on answer that .
Okay, what happens when I putmy finger across the floppy disk
, shoving it in trying?
Marc Gregoire (51:37):
to make sure the point, the floppy disks are
troublesome yeah.
Mike Gorday (51:42):
There's a reason why space technology is behind
modern technology.
Nathan Mumm (51:47):
Why is?
Mike Gorday (51:47):
that, because it's more reliable.
Nathan Mumm (51:50):
So if it had tape or something like that, it's
just a floppiness I could justsee.
Marc Gregoire (51:52):
Well, what kind of floppiness With the five and
a quarter.
Nathan Mumm (51:54):
No, no no, no, no, no, no, no.
They're the big, the big,effing ones.
Oh, the old ones, yes, yes.
Marc Gregoire (52:06):
Oh my gosh because he's, he's back from
that era.
Nathan Mumm (52:09):
He's like I still have those at home.
All right, we're going to.
We're going to head out to ourlast commercial break.
When we return, we still haveour Nathan nugget.
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This is your Nugget of the Week.
Nathan Mumm (52:43):
All right, everybody, listen up.
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(53:05):
you all the time yeah, we know,it happened on air yeah, on air.
Yeah, we did On air one time.
Remember that A website hasbeen set up to distribute the
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(53:28):
Now the payout is related tothe 2019 class action lawsuit
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by capturing conversationsoverheard by the siri voice
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third party.
Quality control contractorsthat then were compromised.
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longer retain users recording,but pushed back against
(53:51):
additional allegations that itallowed advertisers to target
customers based on seriesrecording data.
In January 2025, the companyagreed to pay the be submitted
up to five Siri-enabled devices,including an iPhone, an iPad,
(54:13):
apple Watch, a Mac, a HomePod,an iPad Touch and Apple TV,
provided the users swear underoath that the voice assistant
was unintentionally activated oneach device.
If approved, the settlementpays out or capped at $20 per
device Eligible.
Apple device owners alreadyreceived a claim, identification
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(54:33):
notified about the settlement,but applications can still be
submitted by anybody, that is,you, who believes that you could
have been absolutely recordedwith their tool.
Mike Gorday (54:44):
So it's $20, not $100.
Nathan Mumm (54:46):
Well, you can get up to five devices, so 20 times
five.
Mike Gorday (54:50):
Well, it's a good thing, you can do math.
Nathan Mumm (54:54):
Well, those are one of the many great qualities
that you get here on Tech TimeRadio.
Marc Gregoire (54:58):
So, yes, I wonder the percentage of our listeners
that are Android versus Apple?
Nathan Mumm (55:06):
Well, I've had an Apple.
Marc Gregoire (55:07):
Well, you've got three of us up here, but I think
two of us can't submit a claim.
The three of us.
You've never had an Appledevice.
Mike Gorday (55:13):
No iPads.
I have an Apple iPhone workphone, okay, well, it could be
the same.
That's your work.
Nathan Mumm (55:18):
That's different.
Marc Gregoire (55:19):
That's my work phone.
Nathan Mumm (55:21):
I've had Apple devices since the eons of time.
Marc Gregoire (55:23):
I've personally never owned one.
I've got two phones.
Nathan Mumm (55:26):
Android and Apple.
Mike Gorday (55:28):
When's the Alexa app going to be sued?
I don't know, because that'shappened all the time.
Nathan Mumm (55:34):
Well, soon they're going to start supporting it if
you don't opt in to have themlisten to you at all times.
You know that we got a storythat we're going to talk about
next week about a lawsuit on avacuum device that took pictures
of this person because theytake pictures of the deal and
was used in a lawsuit when thisgal was drunk and she ended up
(55:57):
killing somebody.
They actually went back tofootage of her own private
vacuum, seeing that she wasdrunk before she got into the
car, and they could establish atimeline that she deliberately
was drinking.
Mike Gorday (56:08):
Her Roomba was following her around and taking
pictures of her.
Yeah.
Nathan Mumm (56:13):
It doesn't make you feel safe.
You buy a device, you bring ithome, then it takes pictures of
you and then it leaks out there.
Mike Gorday (56:18):
Now I understand why my Roomba sits in the middle
of the room and just likescrolls over and looks at me and
then scrolls back.
Yeah, that's what it's, uh-huh.
Nathan Mumm (56:27):
All right, now let's move on to our pick of the
day whiskey tasting.
Speaker 1 (56:32):
And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings
.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop.
Marc Gregoire (56:40):
So today we're sipping on High West Burai 2025,
batch 25A23.
This is a blend of bourbon andrye, five of them Over 10 years
old, 92 proof, $130.
I love this, I love this, youlove this.
Nathan Mumm (56:56):
Wow, I was completely wrong on that one.
I love this.
I thought it was fantastic.
I will give it a huge thumbs up.
Mine was gone before we evengot into it.
Marc Gregoire (57:04):
You should have known I bring bad whiskey.
You'd give it a thumbs up.
Mike Gorday (57:06):
Yeah, wow, I bring bad whiskey you give it a thumbs
up.
Yeah, wow, you were spot onwith me.
I like it, but it's not a hugethumbs up for me.
I will say this morningdrinking.
Marc Gregoire (57:15):
It was the best.
I've had it now probably fivedifferent days.
This was the best.
Maybe it takes a while to openup, or it's better to drink in
the afternoon.
There you go, that could be itor at night, when I normally do.
Nathan Mumm (57:27):
Okay, all righty.
Well, mike and listeners, we'rejust about out of time.
We want to thank you for beinga part of our program.
Listeners, we want to hear fromyou.
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I'm listening to you, nathan,and that will make me happy and
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