Privacy invasions, robot surveillance, and the surprising return of beloved cult classics dominate this week's tech landscape. Meta has been caught red-handed using tactics similar to digital criminals to secretly harvest web browsing data from Android devices through a backdoor approach that even Google wasn't aware of. The technique mirrors malicious software, planting itself on phones and bypassing security settings by default—a disturbing revelation that should prompt users to reconsider their browser choices.
Meanwhile, autonomous vehicles like Waymo have become rolling surveillance systems, their 360-degree cameras constantly recording everything and everyone they pass. Police departments in San Francisco and Phoenix are already issuing warrants for this footage, raising profound questions about our surveillance-saturated future. When you step into a robo-taxi, you're essentially signing away your privacy rights—just one more way we're trading convenience for constant monitoring.
On a lighter note, the 1987 cult classic Spaceballs is finally getting a sequel in 2027. Could it be called "The Schwartz Awakens"? It will reunite original cast members including Mel Brooks as Yogurt, Rick Moranis as Dark Helmet, and Bill Pullman as Lone Star, while introducing new characters including Bill Pullman's real-life son Lewis as "Starburst."
In other fascinating developments, Chinese researchers have achieved remarkable accuracy in reconstructing human faces from DNA alone, scientists have genetically engineered spiders to produce glowing red silk, and space station microbes are evolving new protective features against radiation. The technological landscape continues to advance at breathtaking speed—for better and sometimes worse.
Join us each week as we navigate these technological developments with expert analysis and our signature touch of whiskey appreciation. Whether you're concerned about privacy, excited about entertainment, or fascinated by scientific breakthroughs, Tech Time Radio brings you the insights that matter most, without the technical jargon.
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Welcome everyone, let's start today's show.
Nathan Mumm (01:33):
Now on today's show .
All right On the show today wehave James Riddle talking about
technology and the medical field, along with Nick Espinosa
talking about all thingssecurity.
In addition, of course, we haveour featured segments,
including Mike's mesmerizingmoment, our technology fail of
the week and a possible NathanNugget and, of course, our pick
of the day whiskey taste and tosee if our selected whiskey pick
is zero, one or two thumbs upby the end of the show.
But now it's time for thelatest headlines in the world of
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technology.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Here are our top technology stories of the week.
Nathan Mumm (02:03):
All right Story number one Meta found a new way
to violate your privacy.
Let's go to Lisa Walker formore on the story.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
It's not novel that Meta is undermining your privacy
.
Researchers have recentlydiscovered that Meta is using
tactics similar to thoseemployed by digital crooks to
secretly compile logs ofpeople's web browsing on Android
devices.
After researchers publicizedtheir findings, meta said it
stopped.
No one, including Android ownerGoogle, knew that Meta's
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Facebook and Instagram apps weresiphoning people's data through
a digital backdoor for months.
Meta is undermining yourprivacy, and it has been doing
so for many years.
Now back to the studio.
Nathan Mumm (02:48):
All right, so we're going to be talking about this.
It just is like repeat rents,repeat rents.
You know what I'm talking about.
It's just unbelievable.
So now are they going to doanything about it?
Well, I don't know.
I just finally got my $22settlement from the Equifax
settlement.
Did you get that in your mail?
$22.66.
Mike Gorday (03:07):
What Equifax the.
Nathan Mumm (03:09):
Equifax security breach where everybody was
breached no.
I didn't get any of that.
There was a class action youcould sign up for.
Did I have to sign up for it?
Mike Gorday (03:15):
You did have to sign up for it.
Okay then, I didn't get it.
Nathan Mumm (03:16):
They promised you hundreds of thousands of dollars
that would be paid out to the,and I got 22 bucks.
Mike Gorday (03:21):
Well, yeah, that's what a class action lawsuit is
it's $100,000.
I already spent it on Amazon.
And they break it down foreverybody in the class action
lawsuit and then the lawyerstake about 90%.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Nathan Mumm (03:33):
All right.
Well, let's talk about andunravel this mystery regarding
Meta.
Now, millions of websitescontain a string of computer
code from Meta that compileswith web activity.
It might capture income, yourreport to the government, your
application for a student loanor even your online shopping.
Now Meta uses logs, and theycall this the Metapixel software
to build a profile of you foradvertising and people to
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purchase.
Now, typically, informationfrom this Meta software flows
one way it connects once yourcomputer sends information to
Data's cloud.
But we have found out that Metahas been prying the back end of
Android phones.
Now you have an Android phone,right, mike?
Mike Gorday (04:13):
Yep, are you going to tap dance on my Android right
now?
Nathan Mumm (04:18):
Well, I'm not going to tap dance on it.
I'm going to tell you that youknow we've been talking about
where you say something and allof a sudden that becomes
available for purchase in thestores that you're looking at.
Mike Gorday (04:25):
That's because that never happens to me.
Nathan Mumm (04:27):
That never happens to you, no, I don't.
Mike Gorday (04:29):
But then again, I don't talk to my phone.
You don't talk, or on yourphone.
I know I don't talk on yourphone either okay.
Nathan Mumm (04:36):
Well, if you actually use your phone to talk
or to browse, apps, especiallythose like chrome, meta and
yandex, have found workaroundsthat actually gets your data.
The techniques essentially arethat like malware or malicious
software that goes in and isplanted on your phone and
bypasses all the securitysettings by default on your
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phone itself.
You're not going to try and saythat word all right as meta
representatives said, thecompany is talking to google to
address potentialmiscommunications regarding the
applications of their policies.
Meta said that it paused whatit was doing.
Yandex, another collectioncompany, said that it also stops
its information of collectingsensitive information until they
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can identify and understandbest practices.
Best practices Now, if you'rewondering about iPhones, the
research team that did thisstudy found no evidence that
Meta and Yannix were able to dothe same backdoor data
harvesting on Apple devices.
So no privacy settings could behacked or altered by both Meta
and Yannix, even though it doeslook like there's logs that they
attempted to do so.
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Go figure.
Now they circumvented privacyand security protections Google
set up on the Android devices,and this is how they did it.
They did it by loadingthird-party software that then
would mimic and would have abuffer within the operating
system itself that would usethat over the standard Google
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operating system.
So this is the same way thatyou would have somebody hijack
or load a virus onto yourAndroid phone to get information
.
So if is the same way that youwould have somebody hijack or
load a virus onto your Androidphone to get information.
So if your phone started actinga little slower after they were
doing that, that was becausethey were harvesting the data
both in and out back to theirareas.
Now let's tell everybody whatthey need to stop doing right
now.
First of all, you should stopusing the Chrome browser,
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because if you're using theChrome browser, there are so
many extensions and so manyhackable systems that are in
there right now that everybodyis creating backdoors into the
system and, without thegovernment having people
regulating and looking into thisstuff, it's making it easier
and easier and easier, andGoogle Chrome is considered the
number one browser, so it'll bethe number one that gets hacked.
Mike Gorday (06:41):
So that's why Android devices right.
Nathan Mumm (06:44):
This isn't on your pc, no, it's not across the
platform pc, android devices, uh, ios devices.
Now is the time to use thebrave browser or mozilla's
firefox, both very goodalternatives.
They are not number one, sothey don't get all these hacked
backdoor applications that areadding to it.
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So now, if you really want toget crazy, you can even do
Microsoft Edge, but that'sreally, I know, going a little
bit to one extreme, so I don'tknow if you want to do that.
Mike Gorday (07:12):
But there are a couple alternatives.
Are you bagging on Edge?
Nathan Mumm (07:16):
Well, yeah, I'm just saying that there are other
browsers out there.
Please be careful.
Chrome is the most popular webbrowser and has the most
vulnerabilities of all that areout there.
All right, awesome, there yougo.
You know what I think we needto new.
Now move to story number two.
What do you have for us, mike?
Mike Gorday (07:35):
I'm so excited, you're so excited about this, so
let me, let me ask you aquestion, but it's been, it's
almost 40 years old now, it,it's almost 40 years old now.
Nathan Mumm (07:42):
It's a movie, it's one of your favorites.
Mike Gorday (07:43):
What is it?
Nathan Mumm (07:45):
Well, it would be the Three Amigos, although I do
have a Three Amigos right behindthe studio thing.
I would say Spaceballs,spaceballs.
That is correct.
Do you like Spaceballs?
I do like Spaceballs.
Mike Gorday (07:57):
Okay, well, nothing's better than when the
big vacuum comes on.
Guess what's going to happen in2027?
What 2027.
What's that?
It's Baseball 2.
Oh boy, and it's not going tobe the Search for more money.
Nathan Mumm (08:06):
It's not going to be the Search.
It's too bad Because that wasin the original movie.
Well, I don't know if they'vecome out with the official title
.
I think they're just sayingthat they have like a working
title right now.
They have a working title andit's called the Schwartz Awakens
.
Okay.
Mike Gorday (08:28):
Which is the, the mostly beloved star wars.
The force awakens.
Seventh film.
Nathan Mumm (08:29):
The force awakens, okay, all right.
Well, what do we have?
What good news do we have aboutspace balls too?
Mike Gorday (08:32):
okay.
Well, amazon is calling thisfilm a non-prequel, non-reboot
sequel part two, but with rebootelements franchise.
Okay, it is, look at that, itis.
Marc Gregoire (08:47):
Yep.
Mike Gorday (08:48):
Well, tell us who's it in Bill Pullman.
Nathan Mumm (08:52):
Okay, so he was in the original.
Mike Gorday (08:54):
He was in the original, he was Lone Star Yep,
and Mel Brooks is going to comeback as Yogurt.
Nathan Mumm (09:00):
Okay.
Mike Gorday (09:01):
Rick Moranis is going to be back as well His
dark helmet.
His dark helmet.
Nathan Mumm (09:06):
Okay, that's a pretty big deal.
Rick Moranis hasn't doneanything for a long time.
Mike Gorday (09:11):
No, a lot of them haven't done anything.
Bill Pullman's son, lewis, isgoing to be the central guy.
Nathan Mumm (09:20):
He's hot right now Is he Are you sure he's hot.
Yeah, he was just out in the uhmarvel uh the new adventures on
that new thunderbolts orthunderbolts, whichever one you
want to get his new adventures.
I haven't watched, you haven'twatched it.
Mike Gorday (09:35):
He's really good in that.
Actually, I'm so tired of uhmarvel films right now I haven't
anyway.
It's been about 40 years sinceSpaceball came out and here we
go.
The best news of all.
Plot details have been revealed, along with a key piece of
casting.
The Hollywood Reporter brokethe news of the casting as well
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as some of the plot details.
According to the trade, LewisPullman is playing Starburst,
the son of Lone Star.
Pullman is playing Starburst,the son of Lone Star, Okay, and
Queen Vespa, who is DaphneZuniga, is set to also return.
Nathan Mumm (10:10):
So that was Princess Leia, knockoff right,
yep, yep.
Mike Gorday (10:16):
Starburst is one of the film's three main
characters, along with Destiny,played by Keke Palmer, and a
character played by Josh Gad,who has yet to be named but is
suspected to be a Barfdescendant.
Nathan Mumm (10:24):
Okay.
Mike Gorday (10:25):
The younger Pullman has had an incredible few years
.
First really breaking out isthe lovable naval operator Bob
in Top Gun Maverick, followed byplaying Bob aka Sentry in the
Thunderbolts.
The Swartz Awakens is, ofcourse, the play on the title
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name, the star wars name.
Star wars awakens theeverybody's favorite star wars
film okay uh, it's going to becoming to theaters in 2027.
Nathan Mumm (10:57):
Didn't have a an official title yet I said it
better be space balls to thesearch for money.
Mike Gorday (11:03):
If they do not do that, it would be nice if they
did that, since it wasreferenced in the film that
would be perfect yeah, that's.
That's all I got all right.
Nathan Mumm (11:10):
Well, I hope, hope this is not one of these bad
remakes.
I hope this is actually aremake that will be done.
Well, they have so much to makefun of.
Mike Gorday (11:19):
They can do all the MCU stuff.
It's been 40 years.
Nathan Mumm (11:21):
Yeah, you got some MCU.
Mike Gorday (11:23):
But then again, this is one of the things that
have been happening all over theplace.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
You know like Beet all over the place.
You know like beetlejuice as anew film.
Yep, you know I'm excited aboutit?
Nathan Mumm (11:35):
they're not remakes , they're sequels they're
sequels.
Yeah, so it's not a prequel,but it's a sequel to no, it's a
non-prequel, non-reboot sequel,part two, but with reboot
elements franchise expansionsyeah, okay, so they'll have like
characters in there, but it'llbe a whole new storyline.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Yeah, they're saying they're not remake.
I feel like if they were tryingto remake it, there'd be an
uproar on the internet.
Mike Gorday (11:53):
Well we got two years to figure this out.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Yeah, we got.
Mike Gorday (11:59):
I'm sure people are going to be freaking out about
this later on Alright, and thenthey'll have all the people.
Nathan Mumm (12:04):
Well, there they go .
Mike Gorday (12:05):
Alright, we'll see what happens when the teaser
trailer comes out.
Nathan Mumm (12:08):
They do have the scroll right now.
That's on.
Have you seen the scroll?
No, you got to watch the scroll.
It makes fun of all the Marvelstuff, so it's pretty good.
Okay, all right.
Well, that ends our toptechnology stories of the week.
We're going to return with NickEspinoza from Security Fanatics
.
He's joining the show talkingabout cybercrime.
What do we need to next month?
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Our weekly show covers the toptechnology subjects without a
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We verify the facts and we doit with a sense of humor, in
less than 60 minutes and, ofcourse, a little whiskey on the
side.
All right, mr Gregoire, ourwhiskey connoisseur, you're in
studio today.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I am.
Nathan Mumm (13:39):
Glad you're here.
Tell us, what are we sippingtoday.
Today is.
Marc Gregoire (13:42):
Sazerac Rye Whiskey.
It's also known as Baby Saz,baby Saz, baby Saz.
Now from Buffalo Trace'swebsite.
Aromas of clove, vanilla aniseand pepper, subtle notes of
candied spices and citrus.
The big finish is smooth, withhints of licorice.
Now, this is from the SazeracCompany.
Okay, buffalo Trace Distilleryin Frankfort, kentucky.
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It is a straight rye.
It's non-age stated, but weknow, since it's straight rye it
has to be at least four yearsold.
90 proof mash bill isundisclosed, but we know it's
buffalo trace's low rye rye mashbill.
Mike Gorday (14:21):
Okay, and the price ?
Is 30 well, mark I, I think Ithink we can say you did it.
What's that?
I have converted to liking rye.
Marc Gregoire (14:28):
Every time he brings a rye on, I like it wow,
and you know what, mike, this isa very inexpensive rye look at
this bottle and it's got a corktop.
Mike Gorday (14:37):
It's got all all that's got all the nath.
It's got all the nathan perksand it's under 50 bucks.
Marc Gregoire (14:43):
I know that's like number one, and during the
mumbles it has a fun story.
Oh, does it all, right I?
Nathan Mumm (14:48):
have to wait for that, all right.
Well, with our first whiskeytasting completed, let's move on
to our feature segment.
It's a fun story, oh, does it?
All right, we'll have to waitfor that, all right.
Well, with our first whiskeytasting completed, let's move on
to our feature segment.
Today, our technology expert,nick Espinosa, is joining the
show.
Nick is an expert incybersecurity and network
infrastructure.
He's consulted with clientsranging from small business to
the Fortune 100 level.
In 1998, at the age of 19, nickfounded Windy City Networks,
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which was later acquired in 2015.
You know what we need to askhow much he sold it for in 2015.
Mike Gorday (15:15):
Well, no, we don't, no we don't need to ask that
question.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
He then created.
Nathan Mumm (15:18):
Security Fanatics, where he's the chief security
fanatic.
We would now want to welcomeNick to the show.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Welcome to the segment we call Ask the Experts
With our tech time radio expert,Nick Espinoza.
Hi, Nick.
Nathan Mumm (15:34):
All right, here I go.
Nick Question number one offthe charts how much?
Speaker 5 (15:40):
did you make when you sold?
Why do you want to be askingpeople?
Nathan Mumm (15:43):
That's rude, did you make a good amount of money.
Let me just ask you that.
Marc Gregoire (15:47):
He's on Tech Time .
That answers your question.
Nick Espinosa (15:50):
All right, right, well, hang on.
Let me just say this first,okay is that the same?
Speaker 5 (15:56):
bottle what the heck.
Nathan Mumm (15:58):
Look at that right, baby.
That's right.
Nick Espinosa (16:00):
Look at that way to go yeah, yeah, I opened it
about an hour ago and, uh, it'shalfway gone.
Mike Gorday (16:06):
Yeah, that's the way I feel, nick.
Nick Espinosa (16:09):
Wow, look at that figured you guys would get a
kick out of that that is perfect, yeah yeah, I had no idea that
was not planned.
Audience, that was not planned,so let's dive in all right,
well, hang on.
Nathan Mumm (16:18):
Let me ask thumbs up or thumbs down, nick?
Nick Espinosa (16:22):
oh, oh, I like it .
Nathan Mumm (16:23):
Okay, I like it, it's good, all right, all right,
okay.
Well, tell everybody a littlebit about yourself for the
listener audience sure, sure,I'm, uh, nick Espinosa, chief
security fanatic of SecurityFanatics.
Nick Espinosa (16:33):
We do all things cybersecurity, cyber warfare,
cyber terrorism, all that funstuff.
And, as always, I'm happy to behere.
Nathan Mumm (16:39):
We're happy to have you on the show.
All right, so we're going tostart out with our first subject
, which is Mike Gorday'sfavorite.
It's all about AI.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
AI All right about ai .
Nathan Mumm (16:53):
All right, so ai, let's talk about robo taxis.
Now they're becoming asurveillance nightmare, uh,
which is why?
Uh, you know what?
No, let that second story.
Let's go back to the firststory.
Ai see, we got.
We got two ai, so let's talkabout the ai that is now being
used by our national security.
What is going on with this?
I'm seeing a bunch of articlespop up all over everywhere.
What ai are they using?
What's going on?
Why this?
I'm seeing a bunch of articlespop up all over everywhere.
What AI are they using?
What's going on?
Why is our national securityusing AI?
Nick Espinosa (17:15):
Yeah, yeah.
So we all knew this was comingright, and I think there's a lot
of implications in this.
So the AI maker that we'retalking about today is Anthropic
.
They're one of the majorplayers, competitor to OpenAI,
microsoft, google, et cetera, etcetera, and so they have just
released a new set of AI modelsspecifically for US national
security customers.
Now, these are basically basedoff of their CLOD, that's what
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Anthropic calls their artificialintelligence, but these are Gov
models and they're designedessentially to be applied to
government operations likestrategic planning, operational
support and, I think this one'sconcerning intelligence analysis
.
Now, anthropic is saying thatthese new custom models handle
classified material better, andthen they also refuse less when
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engaging with classifiedinformation.
So I guess the initial modelsjust couldn't ingest everything
and look at all points from allsides, and now it's gotten
better, as AI tends to getbetter, and so, by virtue of
that, it now has a greaterunderstanding of the documents
within intelligence and defensecontexts.
So these models have enhancedproficiency in languages,
dialects and whatnot that arecritical to national security
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operations, and Anthropix saysthat also has improved
understanding and interpretationof complex cybersecurity data
for intelligence analysis.
Now, obviously, a whole bunchof AI makers are trying to get
into this space, because what'sgood enough for the government
usually means really expensivecontracts.
So OpenAI, meta our goodfriends that are data mining the
bejesus out of us Google,cohere and others are working on
(18:46):
this as well.
My fear here is that this isgoing to look at basically
intelligence from all sides.
It's going to make some kind ofdecision and then get people
killed Skynet.
Nathan Mumm (18:56):
What I said Skynet.
I said Skynet.
Nick Espinosa (18:59):
I'm not saying they're hooking it up to the
missiles, right, but imagineingesting a whole bunch of
intelligence, like where Osamabin Laden is in Abbottabad, and
the AI makes an incorrectassessment, incorrect statement,
statement, something alongthose lines that's wildly off,
and we get a whole bunch of sealteam members killed or
something along those lines, orwe bomb the wrong target, you
know, and and bombings are athing lately.
(19:20):
So so I mean, I think this hasa lot to be desired and I think
it's something that we reallyneed to watch yeah, you know
yeah, I I do have concerns aboutthis right, so now I mean what,
uh?
Nathan Mumm (19:32):
yeah, all right, I like the ai I love ai for
aspects of of ai, but I don'tknow if I want I mean, I don't
mind going through a bunch ofsharepoint documents and and
summarizing different stuff, butwhen it starts going on out and
making its own ideas and itsown uh intelligence which is not
, it's just a bunch of ones andzeros that it's deciding, yes,
(19:53):
or no then now, all of a sudden,I I think we have some issues
to be already know that it liesand and it hallucinates.
Yeah, we already know that ittried a couple weeks ago or last
week I think it was on the showwhere we talked about the
bribery where it tried bribingsomebody.
So I mean it's at the infancystages and I'm not sure that
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anthropic on the back end.
I I am not too hip on thatcompany in their processes that
they have.
I'm a big sam altman open aitype of guy.
I just like that.
They have a lot of guardrailsin place.
In my opinion they are doing alot of stuff, but that, I think,
is what I would want to be done.
So I just Right.
Marc Gregoire (20:33):
Okay.
Nick Espinosa (20:33):
Right Well, and Anthropic is a major player.
I mean, if you've used theircloud model, it's pretty solid
and it's accurate, or tends tobe.
But to Mike's point, we seehallucinations all the time.
These things go off.
I've literally written articleson it where I've gotten it to
lie to me and it really wasn'thard to get it to do that, you
know, not to mention the factthat the more information you're
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ingesting, the more probabilitythere could potentially be for
misanalysis as well, you know,and obviously the intelligence
agencies want to dump as muchdata into this thing, have it
sift through and come up withsolutions.
I think that could be verypromising, but also very, very
detrimental.
You know, to this as well, andwe've just seen some terrible
misfires over the year with this.
So putting this in the hands ofnational security, I think, is
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a little concerning, not tomention the fact Palantir seems
to be building and compiling anational database, right, and so
how's the AI going to look atthat, as it's looking at our
data, for example?
That's the whole thing from Goj.
Mike Gorday (21:28):
Now, suddenly, you're going to start having
personal profiles and thegovernment will be like these
are high-risk Well they do, butnow it's going to be even easier
to dynamically pull that allthe government is going to do is
buy Meta and then they'll knoweverything about it.
Nathan Mumm (21:42):
That's about right, all right, staying on the topic
of AI I almost skipped overthis becoming the surveillance
nightmare.
Not only are they a roadnightmare, not only do they stop
in the middle of the road whensoftware updates need to be
happening and they don't knowwhat's going on.
So you got all those nightmares.
Now we have LA protesters thathave been in the news.
They set some on fire.
(22:03):
What is going on?
Waymo and these robo taxis inthe AI are a concern.
What information do you havethat we need to have out in the
public now?
Nick Espinosa (22:14):
Well, think, okay .
So think about it this way whatis a robo taxi?
If you see one of these things,it sees you, right?
And so, by virtue of that,police departments in cities
where these things operate I wasjust recently in San Francisco
for the RSA conference thesethings are flipping everywhere,
right?
And so the cops, basically, aregetting all of the footage from
(22:36):
these to help them ininvestigations.
And so Bloomberg did somereporting on this and they noted
that San Francisco, maricopaCounty, arizona, which is
Phoenix, and some others areissuing legal requests like
warrants and subpoenas and allof that to essentially obtain
videos from like these Waymovehicles and obviously other
ones.
But like, waymo is the big one,right, and they've been doing.
(22:56):
San Francisco and Phoenix havebeen doing that since 2023.
But this goes all the way backwith Waymo to 2016, when they
first started launching in otherareas around the Phoenix area,
like Chandler and all of that.
So autonomous vehicles areobviously equipped with
360-degree cameras.
They're constantly, constantlyrecording.
In other words, if I'm walkingdown the street in San Francisco
(23:17):
or Phoenix or whatever, and oneof these Waymos goes by, it
sees me.
It has to see me because Icould be a potential threat if I
jump in front of the car right,so these essentially are
surveillance cameras on wheelsright, and so it's obviously
raising the question aboutoversight, data collection, all
these kinds of things.
And, if you think about it, weare turning ourselves into, for
(23:39):
the sake of convenience, amassive surveillance state Ring
doorbell, for example, licenseplate readers, all this kind of
stuff.
And so by virtue of that, we'veseen companies without warrants
for the record in the past,like Amazon and Ring, give
footage to the police uponrequest, and so we'll see where
this goes.
But essentially these aremassive surveillance, which is
(24:01):
why a whole bunch of protestersin LA, like a few days back, a
week back, whatever it wasstarted ordering Waymos to show
up and then they startedtorching them because again
could be used footage used bythe police.
Mike Gorday (24:12):
All right so again we don't, we don't we don't want
anybody to be torching any cars.
You know they talked about thisin the Dark Knight.
Nathan Mumm (24:19):
Do they?
Yeah, the movie, never mind, ok, ok, all right.
So.
So think about this.
You have Waymo now collectingall this data about yourself.
This is kind of like theBritain juice of CCTVs all over
the place, where they can hackinto it anytime to find out
what's going on, as you can seein any of the movies I don't
(24:40):
know anymore, though.
Nick Espinosa (24:41):
What's that?
It's not just London anymore.
I mean, this is now hittingAmerica.
I mean how many cameras are inNew York, Chicago, LA, that we
see stoplight cameras everywhere?
Nathan Mumm (24:52):
everybody's, everybody's wire room but room,
but cameras now being used incourt cases.
Or somebody sees something.
Mike Gorday (24:56):
Maybe that's why my room but was spinning around on
my carpet this morning was itwas it telling you?
It was.
It was somebody protesting, itwas protesting.
Nathan Mumm (25:04):
Uh, I mean this, this is a concern.
Uh, we, we got I mean I get.
Mike Gorday (25:11):
I love technology okay, but these roles?
I need to drink whiskey rightnow but, uh, what are we going
to do about it?
What?
Nathan Mumm (25:18):
oh nothing, because everybody's going to continue
to use.
Robo.
Taxis are going to become moreand more popular.
Waymo has got huge market sharewhen you get into their vehicle
.
Now you, you sign away all yourprivacy in that video.
Now, if you video recordsomething negative about Waymo
and you post it, you now get acease and assist letter from
them immediately, because whenyou go into that taxi, you have
(25:41):
given your rights away to do anyrecording or anything of that
extent.
They now own, while you're inthat vehicle, all recording
devices and it's actually intheir user's agreement that you
cannot record.
Mike Gorday (25:53):
So they can record you.
Nathan Mumm (25:54):
They can use that information, but you as a user
can't record what's going on inthat vehicle and then post it to
social media.
Nick Espinosa (26:00):
You know, that brings up a really good point,
because I bet you there is anOnlyFans account out there of
nothing but Waymo videos ofpeople in Waymos.
That would be fun.
Nathan Mumm (26:09):
I'd put money on it .
I of nothing but Waymo videosof people in Waymo.
That would be fun.
I'd put money on it.
I may actually spend money togo watch that, If you can think
about it it's on the internetsomewhere, all right.
Nick Espinosa (26:17):
There you go, okay.
Nathan Mumm (26:18):
Last story that we'll talk about Now.
This is really cool because Iactually watched a bunch of the
videos that were hosted.
Nick Espinosa (26:23):
Oh, they're crazy .
Nathan Mumm (26:25):
So China hosted an all-robot MMA tournament.
Now it was kind of like aBattleBots tournament, but if
you've ever watched theBattleBots and the Battlezone,
there's these robots that go andthey fight to death.
Pretty well engineered, thesemachines destroy other robots.
Now the fight footage showssome robots could punch and kick
smoothly.
(26:45):
Other attacks were soft andmore like pushes and strikes.
Now the owners were controllingthem with remotes.
Other attacks were soft andmore like pushes and strikes.
Now the owners were controllingthem with remotes.
So it wasn't necessarily an allAI-driven type of deal.
But tell us a little bit aboutthis robot MMA tournament, nick.
Nick Espinosa (27:01):
Yeah, yeah, and to Nathan's point, go watch the
footage of this thing.
It's called the China MediaGroup World Robot Competition
Mecha Fighting Series and I'mtelling you you will be laughing
and a little terrified, just alittle.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
Yeah, a little bit, a little bit.
Nick Espinosa (27:18):
Just a little.
So anyway, this tournament,basically every entry in the
tournament, any team was usingthe Unitree Robotics G1 robot.
They're about 77 pounds or so.
They're about four and a halffeet tall, so it's like a
12-year-old basically in size.
And the G1, you can go buy yourown Terminator right now.
It's a relentless killingmachine for 16,000 US, and so
(27:41):
essentially what they did wasthey basically made it a
standard fight Three rounds, twominutes each.
If you landed a punch, it was apoint.
You got a kick.
It was a point, you got a kick.
It was three points.
Five points were deducted,though, for falling over, and 10
points were deducted if therobot failed to stand up within
eight seconds.
In other words, it was rightitself.
Mike Gorday (27:59):
Tim count TKO.
Nick Espinosa (28:01):
And, for the record, as we're talking about
this, it does kind of sound likethe robot zombie apocalypse
here, but it's honestly not.
Just go watch those YouTubevideos.
They are beyond amusing andsome of it was impressive
because, to Nathan's point, thiswas a hybrid of
programmatically creating theserobots, teaching them Kung Fu or
mixed martial arts or whatever,and so you can see some pretty
(28:23):
impressive kicks in all of that.
But there's a whole bunch ofvideos of them just flailing
around, punching intonothingness, tripping over
themselves and all of that.
So it's more comedy thannightmare at this time.
And I think that's the keyphrase right At this time,
because robotics is developingcrazy fast, right, we've seen
you can go watch the video ofthe evolution of Boston Robotics
(28:45):
and, just in the last 20 years,how far they've come in
robotics.
So the Chinese have robots,they're teaching them Kung Fu
and honestly this might be theprelude to what future wars look
like, right, drones and robots.
So we'll see what happens, butbest of luck to us all on that
one.
Nathan Mumm (29:03):
What's that movie?
My son loves that movie withthe robot.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Big Hero 6.
Nathan Mumm (29:07):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
That's exactly what I'm thinking of this whole time
Big Hero 6.
That's exactly what I'mthinking of this whole time Big
Hero 6.
Baymax just fighting it outwith another robot.
Nathan Mumm (29:13):
What's the big robots that?
Speaker 5 (29:15):
fight Back Warrior Pacific.
Nathan Mumm (29:18):
Rim, pacific Rim that's what I was thinking of.
Pacific.
Nick Espinosa (29:21):
Rim From the 80s that works too.
Nathan Mumm (29:26):
You should go watch it, because right now, if
you're worried about robotstaking over, that was pretty
funny.
I don't think you have to worryabout these.
Robots Couldn't stand up, theywould do a sidekick.
Mike Gorday (29:34):
For now, for now.
But, again later on.
We're going to have like robotwars and people are going to
have come out and have picnicsto watch them, just like they
did at the start of the CivilWar.
Nathan Mumm (29:44):
The Civil War, or you could just then put them in
like real steel, or that you canput them in a fighting area and
then you bet on them.
Mike Gorday (29:51):
But yeah, I'm pretty sure that's already
happening.
Nick Espinosa (29:53):
Right, oh yeah, they're on FanDuel for sure.
Nathan Mumm (29:56):
FanDuel.
Fanduel wages for Robot A62.
Will he make it more than threeminutes, will he do the first
punch and will he also thenscore the first touchdown?
All right, well, nick, thanksFirst touchdown.
Nick Espinosa (30:06):
All right, well, nick, thanks.
If I could watch two guys fromBelgium slap each other with
fish for money, uh-huh, I'lltell you what.
I'll tell you what I watchedthe video of the MMA stuff.
Nathan Mumm (30:16):
All I could think of is the other videos that I
watched.
What are the slappingcompetitions?
I don't know if you ever seethose on, like ESPN, oh yeah,
and stuff like that.
I'm just like scissor paperslapping somebody in the face.
Mike Gorday (30:28):
I mean they're, they're, there's a, there's a
professional rock scissor paperI I know anything and everything
that's what we're on hackingcompetitions as well that's
right you know, that'll be atime.
Nathan Mumm (30:39):
That'll be time.
Mike Gorday (30:39):
Then you just put I'm sure there's competitions on
how fast you can dress your dog.
You think so?
Nathan Mumm (30:44):
yeah, I'm pretty sure, have you ever seen the
people that have the fake uhpony horses that they don't
really ride on?
Speaker 5 (30:49):
but it's like a stick up.
We are way off topic, buddy.
Mike Gorday (30:53):
We don't need to go into that.
Nathan Mumm (30:57):
Thank you for coming on the show today.
It's always a pleasure to talkwith you.
Please tell our listeners howcan they connect with you
outside of the show.
Nick Espinosa (31:04):
Please like, share, follow me Facebook, x,
twitter, blue Sky, all that kindof stuff.
At Nick a ESP or Nick Espinosa,come say hi, I love hanging out
.
Mike Gorday (31:12):
All right, Nate.
Thank you so much.
Nathan Mumm (31:15):
Yes, enjoy, enjoy your whiskey Sounds great From
all of us here at tech timeradio.
We want to thank Nick fromsecurity fanatics for joining
the show Now.
That ends our segment.
Ask Mike's mesmerizing moment.
Welcome to Mike's mesmerizingmoment.
What does Mike have to saytoday?
(31:37):
Why are B-rated movies a partof our culture?
We were just talking about someof them, as we did that last
segment too.
Why?
Mike Gorday (31:45):
Why?
Why are B-rated movies part ofour culture?
Nostalgia Camp.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
What is camp?
Mike Gorday (31:59):
There's campiness to them.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
I'd love to hear your description of camp right now.
Mike Gorday (32:04):
It's so bad, it's good.
I think that's probably a goodreason, do you?
Nathan Mumm (32:12):
know Blade Runner was a B-rated movie.
No, when it first came out,kind of like a blockbuster I
don't bomb and then all of asudden caught on later.
Mike Gorday (32:20):
Yeah, well, see, that's that's.
That's where we get thisdiscussion right, because when,
when a company makes a movie,they are looking for a specific
return on that movie, right?
So if it, doesn't hit that, ifit doesn't hit that in the box
office, then it becomes a ab-rated movie A bomb.
But a true B-rated movie isthose movies that are quickly
(32:44):
done.
It's under budget, it's aproving ground for actors and
actresses and filmmakers and allthis other stuff.
So I don't think you're quiteputting Blade Runner in the
correct category.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
I don't think.
Mike Gorday (33:01):
Blade Runner was created as a B movie and it just
didn't do well in the boxoffice.
And then what happens is, if itdoesn't hold up to the hype
when it releases, you get what'san underground fandom that
comes along and they recruitmore and more people and then it
becomes a very popular movielater on down the line and that
(33:24):
that feeds into, uh, a lot ofdifferent psychology you know it
feeds into um the same, thesame the same, yes, a community
thing, and also it's all theycall it a cult following,
because there's some cultaspects to it.
So, yeah, okay, that's why.
Nathan Mumm (33:44):
Now, the B movie originally was created for a
bomb.
That's what they call this.
It was a bomb at the box office, but now it has its own
sub-genre category of what a Bmovie is A B movie is just one
of those.
Mike Gorday (34:00):
There's a lot more freedom in how it's filmed and
how it's done and you know,there's a lot of different
reasons why b movies exist.
Okay, whether it becomes a cultclassic or a a favorite.
I mean there's tons and tons ofmovies out there that nobody
knows about, nobody cares abouthoward the duck, howard the duck
yeah, there's, there's a cultfollowing of howard the you
think so?
Pretty sure.
(34:20):
Okay, it pops up on streamingservices every once in a while.
Marc Gregoire (34:25):
All right, okay.
Nathan Mumm (34:28):
Well, thank you, Mike, for that mesmerizing
moment.
Mike Gorday (34:30):
Yeah, I'm sure that was really mesmerizing.
Nathan Mumm (34:32):
That was mesmerizing for me.
Mike Gorday (34:33):
I'm going to go home and watch baseballs Are you
.
Nathan Mumm (34:35):
Okay, all right Up.
Next we have this Week inTechnology, so now would be a
great time to enjoy a littlewhiskey on the side, as we're
going to be doing so during thebreak.
You're listening to Tech TimeRadio with Nathan Mumm.
See you in a few minutes.
Hey, mike, yeah, what's?
Speaker 5 (34:47):
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(35:10):
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Speaker 1 (35:53):
And now let's look back at this week in technology.
Nathan Mumm (35:59):
Alright, going back to our way back machine, we're
going to June 17th 1980.
The first two video games werecopyrighted.
Now, atari's Asteroids andLunar Lander two of some of my
favorite first video gamesbecame the first two video games
to get registered by the USCopyright Office.
This was a crucial step in thedevelopment of intellectual
(36:22):
property rights for the emergingvideo game industry.
Now, with over 400,000 activecopyrighted games in the United
States, it's key that theunderlying source code and the
game's artistic elements,including art, music and
dialogue, can be protected bycopyright law.
However, gameplay elements of avideo game are generally
(36:45):
ineligible for any copyrights.
Did you know that?
No, so, that makes sense, whythere's so many knockoffs of
Grand Theft Auto, right?
I mean, you got Mafia, which isa knockoff of that.
You got tons of other videogames that take the same type of
experience and then createtheir own worlds or their own
(37:06):
versions of those worlds.
So it just tells you that youcan copyright the people, the
artists and the music and art.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Okay, nobody cares.
Nathan Mumm (37:15):
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Now we're going to move on toour special guest segment.
Today we have James Riddle.
James has been a longtimecontributor to the program.
(37:37):
James, our special guest, ishere to talk about what's going
on in the medical research andinnovation.
James has spent the last 25years working in the clinical
research fields and lends hisexpertise to our audience to
help break down what's going onin the world of research.
You can also follow him onLinkedIn.
Let's start our next segment.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Welcome to the segment we call Ask the Experts
With our Tech Time Radio expertJames Riddle.
Nathan Mumm (38:04):
Hi James, great to have you back on the show.
Hi James, all right, so pleasetell the listeners a little bit
about yourself.
James Riddle (38:10):
All right.
So I've been around doingclinical research, oversight,
medical ethics and items relatedto interesting research and
innovation For goodness sincethe latter part of the 20th
century, so I appreciate beingon the show.
It's always a good time.
I am going to rethink how Iinteract with the Waymos here in
(38:33):
the Phoenix Valley.
Sure, that last segment.
I have to say I never reallythought of them as mobile
surveillance vehicles, but Ican't unsee that now, don't
firebomb them.
Nathan Mumm (38:45):
Yeah, and also be very careful.
Anything that you say in thereis recorded and they do go back
and transcribe it.
So if you have a conversationon your phone with a loved one
or something like that, they gotall that information on your
profile.
Mike Gorday (38:56):
You don't use them, do you?
James Riddle (38:58):
No, I have not partaken in one of the Waymos.
I do see them driving aroundtown.
There are a lot of them, I meanthey seem to be just about
everywhere.
I have not had the opportunityor the desire to want to get
into one of them yet.
However, I would have to assumethat possibly Uber and Lyft
have the same type of clauses intheir contract when you get
(39:21):
into one of their vehicles.
Nathan Mumm (39:22):
So probably I think all of the autonomous driving
vehicles will probably have thesame exact terminology that they
can record you and you can't berecording them in the future.
And if they don't have thatwritten now, I'm sure they're
adding that to that.
So you know what?
Just go and hop in an Uber witha real person and then you can
talk with them.
Mike Gorday (39:43):
That's what you just said.
They probably have the same.
They probably have the samestuff going on.
Nathan Mumm (39:47):
I don't know if you .
I don't know if you could dothat because as a driver in
there, then you would also haveto be all recorded and all your
stuff would go to uber and Ithink there could.
I don't know.
You know what.
I have not done the researchinto that.
I did do the research intoseeing what was going on in the
recording stuff with Nick.
James Riddle (40:02):
I think you basically just have to assume
that everybody is watching youall of the time for everything
that you do, yep, and you justhave to kind of be okay with
that.
Mike Gorday (40:10):
See, you know, I got crazy neighbors that always
come and knock on my door andask me while I'm cussing at them
.
Oh, really yeah.
Nathan Mumm (40:18):
Isn't that you're just cussing at your?
Mike Gorday (40:19):
That's just me yelling at the TV.
Nathan Mumm (40:20):
Okay, or my Roomba, all right.
Mike Gorday (40:22):
That's spinning on the carpet In circles In circles
, all right.
Nathan Mumm (40:25):
So we love AI topics here, james, and you know
what, mike, that's his favoritesubject.
If he could talk about AI face,you know everybody's got a
unique face, but what if youcould actually get a facelift
(40:45):
and actually change your face?
Is there stuff that is beingworked on right now regarding
our DNA that would actually moveinto the real world with this
type of prospect?
James Riddle (40:57):
The short answer to that is yes, and I think that
maybe a couple of years back wewere having a segment about how
close technologists were tobeing able to reproduce a
reasonable facsimile of what youmight look like just by looking
at your DNA.
A couple of years back it wasstill in its infancy now easily
(41:18):
obtainable.
There's a recent article cameout in BGR that there was a
research group over in China ofcourse, because they can do
stuff like this that maybe wecan't they got together 10,000
volunteers, took high resolutionpictures of their face, took
their DNA, ran them through highpoweredpowered AI-enabled
(41:41):
technology and they were able toget just with DNA.
So nothing else like you, justyou got a fingernail, you got a
hair clipping, some kind of skincell left behind.
They were able to get areasonable representation of
someone's face down to threemillimeters, which is not quite
enough for facial recognition.
Yet, but that was with a sampleof just 10,000 people, and so
(42:05):
what they did is they took thepicture, then they took the DNA
from the 10,000 people, theyloaded it into the AI unit and
then they took DNA from somebodywho wasn't in the sample set
and they were able to have beentrained.
They trained the AI to be ableto reproduce the face.
But here's the cool part.
Nathan Mumm (42:22):
Yep.
James Riddle (42:23):
When they added in age, sex and body mass index.
So think about, like, what thepolice officers might ask a
witness.
Yeah.
Like what did the person looklike?
Well, they were, you know, five, six male, 200 pounds.
When they loaded those threeparameters in, nothing else.
(42:44):
Okay, it got down to threemicrometers, which is facial
recognition territory.
So skin cells, age, sex, bodymass index and all of a sudden
you've got facial recognitiontagging you on the system.
Mike Gorday (43:00):
And that's what we can do on the system.
That's why china wants to stealall our deal here not too long
from now yeah, so?
Nathan Mumm (43:05):
so let me just say that.
So all of our data from ourmedical providers at least my
medical providers these largecompanies have been breached.
So they would have my body massindex, they would have my
height, they would have myweight, they would have, uh,
lots of information in there.
So you're saying that theycould recreate a beautiful
picture of this Nathan Mum faceall the way, accurate enough
(43:28):
that it could actually be usedin surveillance items?
James Riddle (43:33):
Yeah, so not saying that the law enforcement
and the like are doing that now,but the research group over in
China proved that it could bedone pretty easily.
Nathan Mumm (43:43):
Hmm, well, I'll tell you what the police do do
now.
Mike Gorday (43:45):
Well, that's why China wants all our DNA from
like uh 23 and me yeah, 23 andme, yeah, yeah, now watch it.
James Riddle (43:52):
If and even if you get a facelift and the like, it
still doesn't change theunderlying bone structure of
your face and so facialrecognition.
I mean you have to get somefairly significant cosmetic
surgery to fake the facialrecognition.
Mike Gorday (44:06):
Yeah, that's great, especially with the technology
that does the DNA sniffing thatwe talked about in crime scenes.
Yeah, so okay Well that's howwe start out.
I'm not going out of my houseanymore, I'm just going to stay
in my house.
Nathan Mumm (44:24):
Well, next how we start out.
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not goingout of my house anymore, I'm
just gonna stay in my house.
Well, next story story.
So we just talked about dna forfacelift, so that means it's
100 accurate with the rightinformation, so great.
We'll be seeing lots of clonesof mike and nathan around the
streets.
Uh, coming up here in thepacific northwest.
Now let's go to the next story.
Now this is a marvel of a story, all right.
Or should we say a spider-manmarvel of a story, all right.
Or should we say a Spider-ManMarvel of a story let's talk
about?
What do you have going on withspiders?
(44:45):
Explain this.
What do we got going on here,james?
James Riddle (44:47):
Yeah, so there was a very interesting article in a
journal called InterestingEngineering no pun intended
where I think we've talked aboutCRISPR-Cas9 on the show before.
The ability to take DNA andmake very specific changes to
the DNA, insert it back into theorganism and then the organism
will adopt the traits of theupdated genetic code, Useful for
(45:11):
all kinds of things, fromcuring blindness to other traits
that you might want to insertinto crops or things of that
nature.
Mike Gorday (45:20):
Making T-Rex purses .
James Riddle (45:22):
Yeah, exactly, this is the first time that
they've done it in spiders.
Okay, they took a relativelycommon house spider the
researchers in this particulararticle and they genetically
engineered the spider so that itproduced red fluorescent spider
silk.
Okay, the spider so that itproduced red fluorescent spider
(45:46):
silk.
So spider silk is an amazingbiologic phenomenon.
We have not been able, ashumans, to reproduce the
characteristics of spider silk,but we've finally been able to
take a little bit of time togenetically engineer the spider
to make it glow red, which waskind of interesting.
So you can picture all kinds ofcommercial applications for
(46:06):
this, from geneticallyengineered silkworms that are
going to produce glowing flowershirts like the one I've got on
today.
Nathan Mumm (46:13):
Wow Okay.
Speaker 5 (46:17):
That just wasn't that interesting.
If you're into.
Nathan Mumm (46:18):
Spider-Man, though Well speaking of.
James Riddle (46:20):
Spider-Man.
Like speaking of of spider-man.
If you can genetically engineerthe spider to put out glowing
fluorescent spider silk, likeyou could genetically engineer
the spider to do like all kindsof cool stuff yeah, you could,
yeah, wow.
Mike Gorday (46:34):
Well, sir, it'll certainly make haunted houses
more awesome, you get shot withstuff, all right it's like yeah,
it's gonna be a combination ofhaunted houses and raves all
right.
Nathan Mumm (46:44):
Now spider-man has an enemy.
One of his enemies is known asvenom right, and this is a
bacteria-like creature fromanother planet, right man is
that?
Is that correct mike?
This is how we lead into thenext story.
Yeah, nathan, nathan has tocombine everything with sci-fi,
that's right now, do we havesomething that is growing from
(47:04):
out of this world on one of ourspace stations?
James Riddle (47:07):
oh yeah, this.
This is a good segue from the,from the glowing spider silk and
the ability to recreatepeople's faces.
Uh, so the space station, thespace station it's not unique to
them.
Nasa had this about a year ago.
Okay, microbes up on the spacestation are transforming
(47:28):
themselves to exist in space,things like so they found
recently it was in an articlecalled Science Alert they found
some microbes up on the Chinesespace station that don't exist
on Earth.
They had hitched a ride withsomething that went up you know
supplies or whatever and theyhad the microbes that they found
(47:52):
on the space station hadmodified themselves to have
protection against radiation aswell as some other unique
characteristics that don't existon the similar microbe down
here on Earth.
So new adaptation from themicrobes up in space just brings
back all kinds of wonderfulsci-fi movies of space, and it
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didn't necessarily seem to poseany immediate threat to the
astronauts who were on the spacestation.
Nasa came to the sameconclusion last year, but it was
interesting that after acertain amount of time up in
space the microbes started toadapt to the environment pretty
quickly.
It makes you wonder what wouldhappen when humans make it to
(48:37):
Mars and are out there for yearsand years when humans make it
to Mars and are out there foryears and years, it has all
kinds of scientific implicationsand interesting things you can
learn from how microbes and thelike adapt out in space.
Mike Gorday (48:48):
So are these microbes?
Are they transferred frominternal to internal?
Are they from an external tothe ex meaning?
Are they outside the spacestation?
James Riddle (48:58):
No, my understanding from the article
is it was stuff that was insidethe space station.
So it's inside themicroenvironment of the space
station, with the air andeverything else that's going on
with the humans.
Not surprising that we wouldtake viruses and all kinds of
crazy junk up there with us.
Anything that's in the air ofthe space capsule gets released
into the space station.
Somehow these microbes got in.
(49:19):
Not surprising that they werethere.
What was surprising was themutations and adaptations that
they were adopting because oftheir life in space.
Okay, well, there's Darwin, yeahso it wasn't like something was
outside the space stationdigging its way in.
Mike Gorday (49:38):
I think that's what Nathan thought was that it was
outside the space Like thatmovie.
Life where they get somethingand then it goes out Kills
everybody.
Nathan Mumm (49:49):
Okay, james, thank you so much for being a part of
our show.
We're out of time.
How can people get in touchwith you offline so they can
have more great conversationsabout all this great stuff that
you have information regarding?
James Riddle (50:03):
thanks.
Yeah, the best way to get intouch with me is to just look me
up on linkedin.
Uh, send out a send out alinkedin request, and that's the
best way to get ahold of meperfect, all right, james,
thanks all right, take care guysthe segment we've been waiting
all week for Mark's WhiskeyMumble.
Marc Gregoire (50:31):
Today, today.
I wish today was Saturday.
Why is that?
This past Saturday was NationalBourbon Day.
Nathan Mumm (50:38):
Oh, I hope you guys enjoyed it, did you?
Marc Gregoire (50:40):
celebrate?
Oh, of course.
Okay what's today?
That's the more importantquestion.
Nathan Mumm (50:47):
What is today?
A national B-rated movie day?
No, I don't think so.
Marc Gregoire (50:53):
Today, is National Mascot Day.
Oh, okay, national Mascot yeah,we celebrate and appreciate the
spirit of fun mascots bringingto every event National mascot
yeah, we celebrate andappreciate the spirit of fun
mascots bringing to every eventPeople of all ages, children and
adults alike, except maybe MikeEnjoy, and they help build
memories of their favorite team.
Now, the word mascot originatesfrom the French word mascotte,
(51:14):
used to describe things thatbring good luck.
Mike Gorday (51:18):
Wow, good luck to both of you, alright.
Marc Gregoire (51:21):
Now mascots are not just foam suits and
sidelines.
Some show up in more subtle,spirited ways.
Enter sazerach rye, nice.
Thank you, mike.
It may not have a furry costume, but this rye whiskey carries
history and swagger that rivalsany sports mascot.
Originating from new orleans,and tied to the country's first
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branded cocktail, it stands as abold, unmistakable symbol of
American rye.
Sazerac rye is named after theSazerac Coffee House in New
Orleans, where many consider itto be America's first cocktail.
The Sazerac was born in themid-1800s Now.
Originally, it was made withcognac.
The Sazerac was born in themid-1800s Now.
Originally, it was made withcognac.
The Sazerac, the recipe evolvedinto a rye whiskey-based
(52:04):
cocktail when insects devastatedFrench vineyards.
Oh and cognac became scarce.
Even more fascinating, theSazerac company, which owns the
brand, literally trademarked theofficial cocktail of New
Orleans, making it the only cityin the US to have an official
cocktail, thanks in part, tothis bottle of rye.
Wow, okay, now this whiskey isa staple on my cocktail shelf.
(52:26):
What was funny about?
Mike Gorday (52:29):
that I don't know.
Nathan Mumm (52:31):
You're just like yeah, okay, is this glass empty
over there.
Mike Gorday (52:33):
He's so interested in that.
Marc Gregoire (52:35):
No, I am.
Mike Gorday (52:36):
No, keep on going.
Marc Gregoire (52:43):
I'm already done with mine.
I was going to say.
This cocktail is on my shelfand rarely lasts long,
especially during the coldermonths when I find myself
reaching for it time and againto craft a classic rye based
cocktail.
It's bold and spicy profilemakes it ideal for Manhattans,
old fashions and Sazeracs,adding warmth and complexity
that perfectly complement winterflavors.
It's one of these bottles Ikeep in stock because it's
reliability, versatility andit's a crowd-pleasing character.
Nathan Mumm (53:05):
All right Now, since it's mascot day.
What is the world's mostrecognizable mascot?
Marc Gregoire (53:11):
Cody quick, you guys give me a guess it's the
Santa Cruz slug.
Nope, Incorrect.
Nathan Mumm (53:17):
Number one mascot Mike, I don't care.
Speaker 5 (53:22):
All right, is it the Chicago Bulls one?
Nathan Mumm (53:26):
No, it's not, that would have been the fun one.
Mike Gorday (53:28):
It's not the San Diego Chicken either.
What?
Nathan Mumm (53:32):
It's not Mickey Mouse.
Marc Gregoire (53:36):
This is what Nathan was doing when I was
talking about the whiskey.
Mike Gorday (53:40):
That's why he sounded so excited.
He was so busy trying to Allright, okay, well, you know what
Thanks to make you go.
Nathan Mumm (53:47):
What a great pairing, just like Spaceballs
and Blazing Saddles, two movieclassics.
Yeah, you bombed that one.
That's all right.
All right.
Now let's prepare for ourtechnology fail of the week.
Congratulations, you're afailure.
Speaker 8 (54:01):
Oh, I failed.
Did I yes, did I yes.
Nathan Mumm (54:05):
All right, this technology fail will probably
fade us out into the end of theshow.
All right, AI startup builderai.
Guess what?
It lost $85 million in ameltdown because it was found
out that it was a pretender andnot a contender.
Because it was found out thatit was a pretender and not a
contender, this Builder AI appwas essentially 700 coders in
(54:29):
disguise in India that were allpretending to be the AI company
in itself.
Well, guess what?
This is not the only companythat has failed on AI Amazon,
remember.
Mike Gorday (54:36):
Amazon If I want.
So what this is is like a bunchof people doing customer
service and pretending it's notcustom, pretending it's ai right
, yes, and you're.
You're chatting with a livehuman being and it's pretending
that it's ai yes, that iscorrect I don't well, I'm okay,
I want.
(54:56):
I want to engage with realpeople when I call or I chat.
Marc Gregoire (55:01):
Well, it's a little bit more than chat on
this one.
Nathan Mumm (55:03):
It was AI developer code.
Marc Gregoire (55:04):
It was code too, it was an AI to write software
code for you.
Nathan Mumm (55:08):
Now, do you remember those Amazon stores
where you could go on in and youcould grab a?
Mike Gorday (55:12):
deal.
Nathan Mumm (55:13):
Amazon Go.
Remember that stores they don'texist anymore.
You know what that was.
That wasn't AI detecting youwalking out.
That was somebody in Indiawatching a camera of you in the
store, and then they would haveto go back and put all the items
that you put in there to sendyou the bill afterwards.
So a lot of AI fakers.
Marc Gregoire (55:32):
All right With that, let's move on, never mind
what was that.
Mike Gorday (55:36):
I'll have to think about why these exist, because
that's kind of dumb.
Nathan Mumm (55:41):
Because you can get $85 million invested into your
AI company when you have 700engineers in.
Mike Gorday (55:47):
India doing it.
I suppose they probably madeout pretty well.
Nathan Mumm (55:50):
Huh, yes, they do now behind bars.
All right, let's move to ourpick of the day whiskey tasting.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings
.
Marc Gregoire (56:03):
Let's see what bubbles to the top well, except
for nathan sazerach rye whiskeyneeds no introduction for most
people.
Oh wow, buffalo tracedistillery 90 proof, five years.
Nathan Mumm (56:15):
Of course I know what that I don't know get on
your ai chatbot and figure itout $30.
$30.
Absolutely Thumbs up.
Thumbs up for Nathan.
Mr Gorday, what are you goingto give it?
Mike Gorday (56:25):
Oh, I already gave it a thumbs up.
Thumbs up, all right, and Mikegives it a thumbs up and Mark
gives it a thumbs up.
Marc Gregoire (56:34):
Odie gives it a.
I use this as a sipper.
This is not on my sipping shelf.
Okay, this is your mixer.
This is a great mixer.
It makes great cocktails andit's a good price.
Nathan Mumm (56:43):
All right, there you go it is.
Marc Gregoire (56:43):
All right, michael, it's very tasty you
like it.
Mike Gorday (56:49):
I think dude over here has set out to convert me
to a rye drinker.
Marc Gregoire (56:54):
I think so, and what we got to get on the show
is the big brother, because thisis baby saz the big brother.
There's two big brothers tothis one.
One is thomas h, handy, okay,which is the same mash bill, but
it's at um barrel strength,okay, delicious, but it's a
b-tac, okay.
And the other b-tac is sazrac18.
It's this mash bill, this proofpoint, but it's age 18 years,
(57:15):
18 years, but those those aren't$35 bottles.
No, no, On the secondary marketthe Handy is around $400 or $500
, and the Sazerac 18 is in thethousands.
Thousands, sorry, Okay, welleverybody.
Nathan Mumm (57:31):
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Welcome everyone, let's start today's show.
Nathan Mumm (01:33):
Now on today's show .
All right On the show today wehave James Riddle talking about
technology and the medical field, along with Nick Espinosa
talking about all thingssecurity.
In addition, of course, we haveour featured segments,
including Mike's mesmerizingmoment, our technology fail of
the week and a possible NathanNugget and, of course, our pick
of the day whiskey taste and tosee if our selected whiskey pick
is zero, one or two thumbs upby the end of the show.
But now it's time for thelatest headlines in the world of
(01:56):
technology.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Here are our top technology stories of the week.
Nathan Mumm (02:03):
All right Story number one Meta found a new way
to violate your privacy.
Let's go to Lisa Walker formore on the story.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
It's not novel that Meta is undermining your privacy
.
Researchers have recentlydiscovered that Meta is using
tactics similar to thoseemployed by digital crooks to
secretly compile logs ofpeople's web browsing on Android
devices.
After researchers publicizedtheir findings, meta said it
stopped.
No one, including Android ownerGoogle, knew that Meta's
(02:35):
Facebook and Instagram apps weresiphoning people's data through
a digital backdoor for months.
Meta is undermining yourprivacy, and it has been doing
so for many years.
Now back to the studio.
Nathan Mumm (02:48):
All right, so we're going to be talking about this.
It just is like repeat rents,repeat rents.
You know what I'm talking about.
It's just unbelievable.
So now are they going to doanything about it?
Well, I don't know.
I just finally got my $22settlement from the Equifax
settlement.
Did you get that in your mail?
$22.66.
Mike Gorday (03:07):
What Equifax the.
Nathan Mumm (03:09):
Equifax security breach where everybody was
breached no.
I didn't get any of that.
There was a class action youcould sign up for.
Did I have to sign up for it?
Mike Gorday (03:15):
You did have to sign up for it.
Okay then, I didn't get it.
Nathan Mumm (03:16):
They promised you hundreds of thousands of dollars
that would be paid out to the,and I got 22 bucks.
Mike Gorday (03:21):
Well, yeah, that's what a class action lawsuit is
it's $100,000.
I already spent it on Amazon.
And they break it down foreverybody in the class action
lawsuit and then the lawyerstake about 90%.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Nathan Mumm (03:33):
All right.
Well, let's talk about andunravel this mystery regarding
Meta.
Now, millions of websitescontain a string of computer
code from Meta that compileswith web activity.
It might capture income, yourreport to the government, your
application for a student loanor even your online shopping.
Now Meta uses logs, and theycall this the Metapixel software
to build a profile of you foradvertising and people to
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purchase.
Now, typically, informationfrom this Meta software flows
one way it connects once yourcomputer sends information to
Data's cloud.
But we have found out that Metahas been prying the back end of
Android phones.
Now you have an Android phone,right, mike?
Mike Gorday (04:13):
Yep, are you going to tap dance on my Android right
now?
Nathan Mumm (04:18):
Well, I'm not going to tap dance on it.
I'm going to tell you that youknow we've been talking about
where you say something and allof a sudden that becomes
available for purchase in thestores that you're looking at.
Mike Gorday (04:25):
That's because that never happens to me.
Nathan Mumm (04:27):
That never happens to you, no, I don't.
Mike Gorday (04:29):
But then again, I don't talk to my phone.
You don't talk, or on yourphone.
I know I don't talk on yourphone either okay.
Nathan Mumm (04:36):
Well, if you actually use your phone to talk
or to browse, apps, especiallythose like chrome, meta and
yandex, have found workaroundsthat actually gets your data.
The techniques essentially arethat like malware or malicious
software that goes in and isplanted on your phone and
bypasses all the securitysettings by default on your
(04:56):
phone itself.
You're not going to try and saythat word all right as meta
representatives said, thecompany is talking to google to
address potentialmiscommunications regarding the
applications of their policies.
Meta said that it paused whatit was doing.
Yandex, another collectioncompany, said that it also stops
its information of collectingsensitive information until they
(05:18):
can identify and understandbest practices.
Best practices Now, if you'rewondering about iPhones, the
research team that did thisstudy found no evidence that
Meta and Yannix were able to dothe same backdoor data
harvesting on Apple devices.
So no privacy settings could behacked or altered by both Meta
and Yannix, even though it doeslook like there's logs that they
attempted to do so.
(05:39):
Go figure.
Now they circumvented privacyand security protections Google
set up on the Android devices,and this is how they did it.
They did it by loadingthird-party software that then
would mimic and would have abuffer within the operating
system itself that would usethat over the standard Google
(05:59):
operating system.
So this is the same way thatyou would have somebody hijack
or load a virus onto yourAndroid phone to get information
.
So if is the same way that youwould have somebody hijack or
load a virus onto your Androidphone to get information.
So if your phone started actinga little slower after they were
doing that, that was becausethey were harvesting the data
both in and out back to theirareas.
Now let's tell everybody whatthey need to stop doing right
now.
First of all, you should stopusing the Chrome browser,
(06:21):
because if you're using theChrome browser, there are so
many extensions and so manyhackable systems that are in
there right now that everybodyis creating backdoors into the
system and, without thegovernment having people
regulating and looking into thisstuff, it's making it easier
and easier and easier, andGoogle Chrome is considered the
number one browser, so it'll bethe number one that gets hacked.
Mike Gorday (06:41):
So that's why Android devices right.
Nathan Mumm (06:44):
This isn't on your pc, no, it's not across the
platform pc, android devices, uh, ios devices.
Now is the time to use thebrave browser or mozilla's
firefox, both very goodalternatives.
They are not number one, sothey don't get all these hacked
backdoor applications that areadding to it.
(07:04):
So now, if you really want toget crazy, you can even do
Microsoft Edge, but that'sreally, I know, going a little
bit to one extreme, so I don'tknow if you want to do that.
Mike Gorday (07:12):
But there are a couple alternatives.
Are you bagging on Edge?
Nathan Mumm (07:16):
Well, yeah, I'm just saying that there are other
browsers out there.
Please be careful.
Chrome is the most popular webbrowser and has the most
vulnerabilities of all that areout there.
All right, awesome, there yougo.
You know what I think we needto new.
Now move to story number two.
What do you have for us, mike?
Mike Gorday (07:35):
I'm so excited, you're so excited about this, so
let me, let me ask you aquestion, but it's been, it's
almost 40 years old now, it,it's almost 40 years old now.
Nathan Mumm (07:42):
It's a movie, it's one of your favorites.
Mike Gorday (07:43):
What is it?
Nathan Mumm (07:45):
Well, it would be the Three Amigos, although I do
have a Three Amigos right behindthe studio thing.
I would say Spaceballs,spaceballs.
That is correct.
Do you like Spaceballs?
I do like Spaceballs.
Mike Gorday (07:57):
Okay, well, nothing's better than when the
big vacuum comes on.
Guess what's going to happen in2027?
What 2027.
What's that?
It's Baseball 2.
Oh boy, and it's not going tobe the Search for more money.
Nathan Mumm (08:06):
It's not going to be the Search.
It's too bad Because that wasin the original movie.
Well, I don't know if they'vecome out with the official title
.
I think they're just sayingthat they have like a working
title right now.
They have a working title andit's called the Schwartz Awakens
.
Okay.
Mike Gorday (08:28):
Which is the, the mostly beloved star wars.
The force awakens.
Seventh film.
Nathan Mumm (08:29):
The force awakens, okay, all right.
Well, what do we have?
What good news do we have aboutspace balls too?
Mike Gorday (08:32):
okay.
Well, amazon is calling thisfilm a non-prequel, non-reboot
sequel part two, but with rebootelements franchise.
Okay, it is, look at that, itis.
Marc Gregoire (08:47):
Yep.
Mike Gorday (08:48):
Well, tell us who's it in Bill Pullman.
Nathan Mumm (08:52):
Okay, so he was in the original.
Mike Gorday (08:54):
He was in the original, he was Lone Star Yep,
and Mel Brooks is going to comeback as Yogurt.
Nathan Mumm (09:00):
Okay.
Mike Gorday (09:01):
Rick Moranis is going to be back as well His
dark helmet.
His dark helmet.
Nathan Mumm (09:06):
Okay, that's a pretty big deal.
Rick Moranis hasn't doneanything for a long time.
Mike Gorday (09:11):
No, a lot of them haven't done anything.
Bill Pullman's son, lewis, isgoing to be the central guy.
Nathan Mumm (09:20):
He's hot right now Is he Are you sure he's hot.
Yeah, he was just out in the uhmarvel uh the new adventures on
that new thunderbolts orthunderbolts, whichever one you
want to get his new adventures.
I haven't watched, you haven'twatched it.
Mike Gorday (09:35):
He's really good in that.
Actually, I'm so tired of uhmarvel films right now I haven't
anyway.
It's been about 40 years sinceSpaceball came out and here we
go.
The best news of all.
Plot details have been revealed, along with a key piece of
casting.
The Hollywood Reporter brokethe news of the casting as well
(09:57):
as some of the plot details.
According to the trade, LewisPullman is playing Starburst,
the son of Lone Star.
Pullman is playing Starburst,the son of Lone Star, Okay, and
Queen Vespa, who is DaphneZuniga, is set to also return.
Nathan Mumm (10:10):
So that was Princess Leia, knockoff right,
yep, yep.
Mike Gorday (10:16):
Starburst is one of the film's three main
characters, along with Destiny,played by Keke Palmer, and a
character played by Josh Gad,who has yet to be named but is
suspected to be a Barfdescendant.
Nathan Mumm (10:24):
Okay.
Mike Gorday (10:25):
The younger Pullman has had an incredible few years
.
First really breaking out isthe lovable naval operator Bob
in Top Gun Maverick, followed byplaying Bob aka Sentry in the
Thunderbolts.
The Swartz Awakens is, ofcourse, the play on the title
(10:47):
name, the star wars name.
Star wars awakens theeverybody's favorite star wars
film okay uh, it's going to becoming to theaters in 2027.
Nathan Mumm (10:57):
Didn't have a an official title yet I said it
better be space balls to thesearch for money.
Mike Gorday (11:03):
If they do not do that, it would be nice if they
did that, since it wasreferenced in the film that
would be perfect yeah, that's.
That's all I got all right.
Nathan Mumm (11:10):
Well, I hope, hope this is not one of these bad
remakes.
I hope this is actually aremake that will be done.
Well, they have so much to makefun of.
Mike Gorday (11:19):
They can do all the MCU stuff.
It's been 40 years.
Nathan Mumm (11:21):
Yeah, you got some MCU.
Mike Gorday (11:23):
But then again, this is one of the things that
have been happening all over theplace.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
You know like Beet all over the place.
You know like beetlejuice as anew film.
Yep, you know I'm excited aboutit?
Nathan Mumm (11:35):
they're not remakes , they're sequels they're
sequels.
Yeah, so it's not a prequel,but it's a sequel to no, it's a
non-prequel, non-reboot sequel,part two, but with reboot
elements franchise expansionsyeah, okay, so they'll have like
characters in there, but it'llbe a whole new storyline.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Yeah, they're saying they're not remake.
I feel like if they were tryingto remake it, there'd be an
uproar on the internet.
Mike Gorday (11:53):
Well we got two years to figure this out.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Yeah, we got.
Mike Gorday (11:59):
I'm sure people are going to be freaking out about
this later on Alright, and thenthey'll have all the people.
Nathan Mumm (12:04):
Well, there they go .
Mike Gorday (12:05):
Alright, we'll see what happens when the teaser
trailer comes out.
Nathan Mumm (12:08):
They do have the scroll right now.
That's on.
Have you seen the scroll?
No, you got to watch the scroll.
It makes fun of all the Marvelstuff, so it's pretty good.
Okay, all right.
Well, that ends our toptechnology stories of the week.
We're going to return with NickEspinoza from Security Fanatics
.
He's joining the show talkingabout cybercrime.
What do we need to next month?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
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Nathan Mumm (13:24):
Welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mumm.
Our weekly show covers the toptechnology subjects without a
political agenda.
We verify the facts and we doit with a sense of humor, in
less than 60 minutes and, ofcourse, a little whiskey on the
side.
All right, mr Gregoire, ourwhiskey connoisseur, you're in
studio today.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I am.
Nathan Mumm (13:39):
Glad you're here.
Tell us, what are we sippingtoday.
Today is.
Marc Gregoire (13:42):
Sazerac Rye Whiskey.
It's also known as Baby Saz,baby Saz, baby Saz.
Now from Buffalo Trace'swebsite.
Aromas of clove, vanilla aniseand pepper, subtle notes of
candied spices and citrus.
The big finish is smooth, withhints of licorice.
Now, this is from the SazeracCompany.
Okay, buffalo Trace Distilleryin Frankfort, kentucky.
(14:05):
It is a straight rye.
It's non-age stated, but weknow, since it's straight rye it
has to be at least four yearsold.
90 proof mash bill isundisclosed, but we know it's
buffalo trace's low rye rye mashbill.
Mike Gorday (14:21):
Okay, and the price ?
Is 30 well, mark I, I think Ithink we can say you did it.
What's that?
I have converted to liking rye.
Marc Gregoire (14:28):
Every time he brings a rye on, I like it wow,
and you know what, mike, this isa very inexpensive rye look at
this bottle and it's got a corktop.
Mike Gorday (14:37):
It's got all all that's got all the nath.
It's got all the nathan perksand it's under 50 bucks.
Marc Gregoire (14:43):
I know that's like number one, and during the
mumbles it has a fun story.
Oh, does it all, right I?
Nathan Mumm (14:48):
have to wait for that, all right.
Well, with our first whiskeytasting completed, let's move on
to our feature segment.
It's a fun story, oh, does it?
All right, we'll have to waitfor that, all right.
Well, with our first whiskeytasting completed, let's move on
to our feature segment.
Today, our technology expert,nick Espinosa, is joining the
show.
Nick is an expert incybersecurity and network
infrastructure.
He's consulted with clientsranging from small business to
the Fortune 100 level.
In 1998, at the age of 19, nickfounded Windy City Networks,
(15:09):
which was later acquired in 2015.
You know what we need to askhow much he sold it for in 2015.
Mike Gorday (15:15):
Well, no, we don't, no we don't need to ask that
question.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
He then created.
Nathan Mumm (15:18):
Security Fanatics, where he's the chief security
fanatic.
We would now want to welcomeNick to the show.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Welcome to the segment we call Ask the Experts
With our tech time radio expert,Nick Espinoza.
Hi, Nick.
Nathan Mumm (15:34):
All right, here I go.
Nick Question number one offthe charts how much?
Speaker 5 (15:40):
did you make when you sold?
Why do you want to be askingpeople?
Nathan Mumm (15:43):
That's rude, did you make a good amount of money.
Let me just ask you that.
Marc Gregoire (15:47):
He's on Tech Time .
That answers your question.
Nick Espinosa (15:50):
All right, right, well, hang on.
Let me just say this first,okay is that the same?
Speaker 5 (15:56):
bottle what the heck.
Nathan Mumm (15:58):
Look at that right, baby.
That's right.
Nick Espinosa (16:00):
Look at that way to go yeah, yeah, I opened it
about an hour ago and, uh, it'shalfway gone.
Mike Gorday (16:06):
Yeah, that's the way I feel, nick.
Nick Espinosa (16:09):
Wow, look at that figured you guys would get a
kick out of that that is perfect, yeah yeah, I had no idea that
was not planned.
Audience, that was not planned,so let's dive in all right,
well, hang on.
Nathan Mumm (16:18):
Let me ask thumbs up or thumbs down, nick?
Nick Espinosa (16:22):
oh, oh, I like it .
Nathan Mumm (16:23):
Okay, I like it, it's good, all right, all right,
okay.
Well, tell everybody a littlebit about yourself for the
listener audience sure, sure,I'm, uh, nick Espinosa, chief
security fanatic of SecurityFanatics.
Nick Espinosa (16:33):
We do all things cybersecurity, cyber warfare,
cyber terrorism, all that funstuff.
And, as always, I'm happy to behere.
Nathan Mumm (16:39):
We're happy to have you on the show.
All right, so we're going tostart out with our first subject
, which is Mike Gorday'sfavorite.
It's all about AI.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
AI All right about ai .
Nathan Mumm (16:53):
All right, so ai, let's talk about robo taxis.
Now they're becoming asurveillance nightmare, uh,
which is why?
Uh, you know what?
No, let that second story.
Let's go back to the firststory.
Ai see, we got.
We got two ai, so let's talkabout the ai that is now being
used by our national security.
What is going on with this?
I'm seeing a bunch of articlespop up all over everywhere.
What ai are they using?
What's going on?
Why this?
I'm seeing a bunch of articlespop up all over everywhere.
What AI are they using?
What's going on?
Why is our national securityusing AI?
Nick Espinosa (17:15):
Yeah, yeah.
So we all knew this was comingright, and I think there's a lot
of implications in this.
So the AI maker that we'retalking about today is Anthropic
.
They're one of the majorplayers, competitor to OpenAI,
microsoft, google, et cetera, etcetera, and so they have just
released a new set of AI modelsspecifically for US national
security customers.
Now, these are basically basedoff of their CLOD, that's what
(17:38):
Anthropic calls their artificialintelligence, but these are Gov
models and they're designedessentially to be applied to
government operations likestrategic planning, operational
support and, I think this one'sconcerning intelligence analysis
.
Now, anthropic is saying thatthese new custom models handle
classified material better, andthen they also refuse less when
(17:59):
engaging with classifiedinformation.
So I guess the initial modelsjust couldn't ingest everything
and look at all points from allsides, and now it's gotten
better, as AI tends to getbetter, and so, by virtue of
that, it now has a greaterunderstanding of the documents
within intelligence and defensecontexts.
So these models have enhancedproficiency in languages,
dialects and whatnot that arecritical to national security
(18:22):
operations, and Anthropix saysthat also has improved
understanding and interpretationof complex cybersecurity data
for intelligence analysis.
Now, obviously, a whole bunchof AI makers are trying to get
into this space, because what'sgood enough for the government
usually means really expensivecontracts.
So OpenAI, meta our goodfriends that are data mining the
bejesus out of us Google,cohere and others are working on
(18:46):
this as well.
My fear here is that this isgoing to look at basically
intelligence from all sides.
It's going to make some kind ofdecision and then get people
killed Skynet.
Nathan Mumm (18:56):
What I said Skynet.
I said Skynet.
Nick Espinosa (18:59):
I'm not saying they're hooking it up to the
missiles, right, but imagineingesting a whole bunch of
intelligence, like where Osamabin Laden is in Abbottabad, and
the AI makes an incorrectassessment, incorrect statement,
statement, something alongthose lines that's wildly off,
and we get a whole bunch of sealteam members killed or
something along those lines, orwe bomb the wrong target, you
know, and and bombings are athing lately.
(19:20):
So so I mean, I think this hasa lot to be desired and I think
it's something that we reallyneed to watch yeah, you know
yeah, I I do have concerns aboutthis right, so now I mean what,
uh?
Nathan Mumm (19:32):
yeah, all right, I like the ai I love ai for
aspects of of ai, but I don'tknow if I want I mean, I don't
mind going through a bunch ofsharepoint documents and and
summarizing different stuff, butwhen it starts going on out and
making its own ideas and itsown uh intelligence which is not
, it's just a bunch of ones andzeros that it's deciding, yes,
(19:53):
or no then now, all of a sudden,I I think we have some issues
to be already know that it liesand and it hallucinates.
Yeah, we already know that ittried a couple weeks ago or last
week I think it was on the showwhere we talked about the
bribery where it tried bribingsomebody.
So I mean it's at the infancystages and I'm not sure that
(20:14):
anthropic on the back end.
I I am not too hip on thatcompany in their processes that
they have.
I'm a big sam altman open aitype of guy.
I just like that.
They have a lot of guardrailsin place.
In my opinion they are doing alot of stuff, but that, I think,
is what I would want to be done.
So I just Right.
Marc Gregoire (20:33):
Okay.
Nick Espinosa (20:33):
Right Well, and Anthropic is a major player.
I mean, if you've used theircloud model, it's pretty solid
and it's accurate, or tends tobe.
But to Mike's point, we seehallucinations all the time.
These things go off.
I've literally written articleson it where I've gotten it to
lie to me and it really wasn'thard to get it to do that, you
know, not to mention the factthat the more information you're
(20:54):
ingesting, the more probabilitythere could potentially be for
misanalysis as well, you know,and obviously the intelligence
agencies want to dump as muchdata into this thing, have it
sift through and come up withsolutions.
I think that could be verypromising, but also very, very
detrimental.
You know, to this as well, andwe've just seen some terrible
misfires over the year with this.
So putting this in the hands ofnational security, I think, is
(21:17):
a little concerning, not tomention the fact Palantir seems
to be building and compiling anational database, right, and so
how's the AI going to look atthat, as it's looking at our
data, for example?
That's the whole thing from Goj.
Mike Gorday (21:28):
Now, suddenly, you're going to start having
personal profiles and thegovernment will be like these
are high-risk Well they do, butnow it's going to be even easier
to dynamically pull that allthe government is going to do is
buy Meta and then they'll knoweverything about it.
Nathan Mumm (21:42):
That's about right, all right, staying on the topic
of AI I almost skipped overthis becoming the surveillance
nightmare.
Not only are they a roadnightmare, not only do they stop
in the middle of the road whensoftware updates need to be
happening and they don't knowwhat's going on.
So you got all those nightmares.
Now we have LA protesters thathave been in the news.
They set some on fire.
(22:03):
What is going on?
Waymo and these robo taxis inthe AI are a concern.
What information do you havethat we need to have out in the
public now?
Nick Espinosa (22:14):
Well, think, okay .
So think about it this way whatis a robo taxi?
If you see one of these things,it sees you, right?
And so, by virtue of that,police departments in cities
where these things operate I wasjust recently in San Francisco
for the RSA conference thesethings are flipping everywhere,
right?
And so the cops, basically, aregetting all of the footage from
(22:36):
these to help them ininvestigations.
And so Bloomberg did somereporting on this and they noted
that San Francisco, maricopaCounty, arizona, which is
Phoenix, and some others areissuing legal requests like
warrants and subpoenas and allof that to essentially obtain
videos from like these Waymovehicles and obviously other
ones.
But like, waymo is the big one,right, and they've been doing.
(22:56):
San Francisco and Phoenix havebeen doing that since 2023.
But this goes all the way backwith Waymo to 2016, when they
first started launching in otherareas around the Phoenix area,
like Chandler and all of that.
So autonomous vehicles areobviously equipped with
360-degree cameras.
They're constantly, constantlyrecording.
In other words, if I'm walkingdown the street in San Francisco
(23:17):
or Phoenix or whatever, and oneof these Waymos goes by, it
sees me.
It has to see me because Icould be a potential threat if I
jump in front of the car right,so these essentially are
surveillance cameras on wheelsright, and so it's obviously
raising the question aboutoversight, data collection, all
these kinds of things.
And, if you think about it, weare turning ourselves into, for
(23:39):
the sake of convenience, amassive surveillance state Ring
doorbell, for example, licenseplate readers, all this kind of
stuff.
And so by virtue of that, we'veseen companies without warrants
for the record in the past,like Amazon and Ring, give
footage to the police uponrequest, and so we'll see where
this goes.
But essentially these aremassive surveillance, which is
(24:01):
why a whole bunch of protestersin LA, like a few days back, a
week back, whatever it wasstarted ordering Waymos to show
up and then they startedtorching them because again
could be used footage used bythe police.
Mike Gorday (24:12):
All right so again we don't, we don't we don't want
anybody to be torching any cars.
You know they talked about thisin the Dark Knight.
Nathan Mumm (24:19):
Do they?
Yeah, the movie, never mind, ok, ok, all right.
So.
So think about this.
You have Waymo now collectingall this data about yourself.
This is kind of like theBritain juice of CCTVs all over
the place, where they can hackinto it anytime to find out
what's going on, as you can seein any of the movies I don't
(24:40):
know anymore, though.
Nick Espinosa (24:41):
What's that?
It's not just London anymore.
I mean, this is now hittingAmerica.
I mean how many cameras are inNew York, Chicago, LA, that we
see stoplight cameras everywhere?
Nathan Mumm (24:52):
everybody's, everybody's wire room but room,
but cameras now being used incourt cases.
Or somebody sees something.
Mike Gorday (24:56):
Maybe that's why my room but was spinning around on
my carpet this morning was itwas it telling you?
It was.
It was somebody protesting, itwas protesting.
Nathan Mumm (25:04):
Uh, I mean this, this is a concern.
Uh, we, we got I mean I get.
Mike Gorday (25:11):
I love technology okay, but these roles?
I need to drink whiskey rightnow but, uh, what are we going
to do about it?
What?
Nathan Mumm (25:18):
oh nothing, because everybody's going to continue
to use.
Robo.
Taxis are going to become moreand more popular.
Waymo has got huge market sharewhen you get into their vehicle
.
Now you, you sign away all yourprivacy in that video.
Now, if you video recordsomething negative about Waymo
and you post it, you now get acease and assist letter from
them immediately, because whenyou go into that taxi, you have
(25:41):
given your rights away to do anyrecording or anything of that
extent.
They now own, while you're inthat vehicle, all recording
devices and it's actually intheir user's agreement that you
cannot record.
Mike Gorday (25:53):
So they can record you.
Nathan Mumm (25:54):
They can use that information, but you as a user
can't record what's going on inthat vehicle and then post it to
social media.
Nick Espinosa (26:00):
You know, that brings up a really good point,
because I bet you there is anOnlyFans account out there of
nothing but Waymo videos ofpeople in Waymos.
That would be fun.
Nathan Mumm (26:09):
I'd put money on it .
I of nothing but Waymo videosof people in Waymo.
That would be fun.
I'd put money on it.
I may actually spend money togo watch that, If you can think
about it it's on the internetsomewhere, all right.
Nick Espinosa (26:17):
There you go, okay.
Nathan Mumm (26:18):
Last story that we'll talk about Now.
This is really cool because Iactually watched a bunch of the
videos that were hosted.
Nick Espinosa (26:23):
Oh, they're crazy .
Nathan Mumm (26:25):
So China hosted an all-robot MMA tournament.
Now it was kind of like aBattleBots tournament, but if
you've ever watched theBattleBots and the Battlezone,
there's these robots that go andthey fight to death.
Pretty well engineered, thesemachines destroy other robots.
Now the fight footage showssome robots could punch and kick
smoothly.
(26:45):
Other attacks were soft andmore like pushes and strikes.
Now the owners were controllingthem with remotes.
Other attacks were soft andmore like pushes and strikes.
Now the owners were controllingthem with remotes.
So it wasn't necessarily an allAI-driven type of deal.
But tell us a little bit aboutthis robot MMA tournament, nick.
Nick Espinosa (27:01):
Yeah, yeah, and to Nathan's point, go watch the
footage of this thing.
It's called the China MediaGroup World Robot Competition
Mecha Fighting Series and I'mtelling you you will be laughing
and a little terrified, just alittle.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
Yeah, a little bit, a little bit.
Nick Espinosa (27:18):
Just a little.
So anyway, this tournament,basically every entry in the
tournament, any team was usingthe Unitree Robotics G1 robot.
They're about 77 pounds or so.
They're about four and a halffeet tall, so it's like a
12-year-old basically in size.
And the G1, you can go buy yourown Terminator right now.
It's a relentless killingmachine for 16,000 US, and so
(27:41):
essentially what they did wasthey basically made it a
standard fight Three rounds, twominutes each.
If you landed a punch, it was apoint.
You got a kick.
It was a point, you got a kick.
It was three points.
Five points were deducted,though, for falling over, and 10
points were deducted if therobot failed to stand up within
eight seconds.
In other words, it was rightitself.
Mike Gorday (27:59):
Tim count TKO.
Nick Espinosa (28:01):
And, for the record, as we're talking about
this, it does kind of sound likethe robot zombie apocalypse
here, but it's honestly not.
Just go watch those YouTubevideos.
They are beyond amusing andsome of it was impressive
because, to Nathan's point, thiswas a hybrid of
programmatically creating theserobots, teaching them Kung Fu or
mixed martial arts or whatever,and so you can see some pretty
(28:23):
impressive kicks in all of that.
But there's a whole bunch ofvideos of them just flailing
around, punching intonothingness, tripping over
themselves and all of that.
So it's more comedy thannightmare at this time.
And I think that's the keyphrase right At this time,
because robotics is developingcrazy fast, right, we've seen
you can go watch the video ofthe evolution of Boston Robotics
(28:45):
and, just in the last 20 years,how far they've come in
robotics.
So the Chinese have robots,they're teaching them Kung Fu
and honestly this might be theprelude to what future wars look
like, right, drones and robots.
So we'll see what happens, butbest of luck to us all on that
one.
Nathan Mumm (29:03):
What's that movie?
My son loves that movie withthe robot.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Big Hero 6.
Nathan Mumm (29:07):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
That's exactly what I'm thinking of this whole time
Big Hero 6.
That's exactly what I'mthinking of this whole time Big
Hero 6.
Baymax just fighting it outwith another robot.
Nathan Mumm (29:13):
What's the big robots that?
Speaker 5 (29:15):
fight Back Warrior Pacific.
Nathan Mumm (29:18):
Rim, pacific Rim that's what I was thinking of.
Pacific.
Nick Espinosa (29:21):
Rim From the 80s that works too.
Nathan Mumm (29:26):
You should go watch it, because right now, if
you're worried about robotstaking over, that was pretty
funny.
I don't think you have to worryabout these.
Robots Couldn't stand up, theywould do a sidekick.
Mike Gorday (29:34):
For now, for now.
But, again later on.
We're going to have like robotwars and people are going to
have come out and have picnicsto watch them, just like they
did at the start of the CivilWar.
Nathan Mumm (29:44):
The Civil War, or you could just then put them in
like real steel, or that you canput them in a fighting area and
then you bet on them.
Mike Gorday (29:51):
But yeah, I'm pretty sure that's already
happening.
Nick Espinosa (29:53):
Right, oh yeah, they're on FanDuel for sure.
Nathan Mumm (29:56):
FanDuel.
Fanduel wages for Robot A62.
Will he make it more than threeminutes, will he do the first
punch and will he also thenscore the first touchdown?
All right, well, nick, thanksFirst touchdown.
Nick Espinosa (30:06):
All right, well, nick, thanks.
If I could watch two guys fromBelgium slap each other with
fish for money, uh-huh, I'lltell you what.
I'll tell you what I watchedthe video of the MMA stuff.
Nathan Mumm (30:16):
All I could think of is the other videos that I
watched.
What are the slappingcompetitions?
I don't know if you ever seethose on, like ESPN, oh yeah,
and stuff like that.
I'm just like scissor paperslapping somebody in the face.
Mike Gorday (30:28):
I mean they're, they're, there's a, there's a
professional rock scissor paperI I know anything and everything
that's what we're on hackingcompetitions as well that's
right you know, that'll be atime.
Nathan Mumm (30:39):
That'll be time.
Mike Gorday (30:39):
Then you just put I'm sure there's competitions on
how fast you can dress your dog.
You think so?
Nathan Mumm (30:44):
yeah, I'm pretty sure, have you ever seen the
people that have the fake uhpony horses that they don't
really ride on?
Speaker 5 (30:49):
but it's like a stick up.
We are way off topic, buddy.
Mike Gorday (30:53):
We don't need to go into that.
Nathan Mumm (30:57):
Thank you for coming on the show today.
It's always a pleasure to talkwith you.
Please tell our listeners howcan they connect with you
outside of the show.
Nick Espinosa (31:04):
Please like, share, follow me Facebook, x,
twitter, blue Sky, all that kindof stuff.
At Nick a ESP or Nick Espinosa,come say hi, I love hanging out
.
Mike Gorday (31:12):
All right, Nate.
Thank you so much.
Nathan Mumm (31:15):
Yes, enjoy, enjoy your whiskey Sounds great From
all of us here at tech timeradio.
We want to thank Nick fromsecurity fanatics for joining
the show Now.
That ends our segment.
Ask Mike's mesmerizing moment.
Welcome to Mike's mesmerizingmoment.
What does Mike have to saytoday?
(31:37):
Why are B-rated movies a partof our culture?
We were just talking about someof them, as we did that last
segment too.
Why?
Mike Gorday (31:45):
Why?
Why are B-rated movies part ofour culture?
Nostalgia Camp.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
What is camp?
Mike Gorday (31:59):
There's campiness to them.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
I'd love to hear your description of camp right now.
Mike Gorday (32:04):
It's so bad, it's good.
I think that's probably a goodreason, do you?
Nathan Mumm (32:12):
know Blade Runner was a B-rated movie.
No, when it first came out,kind of like a blockbuster I
don't bomb and then all of asudden caught on later.
Mike Gorday (32:20):
Yeah, well, see, that's that's.
That's where we get thisdiscussion right, because when,
when a company makes a movie,they are looking for a specific
return on that movie, right?
So if it, doesn't hit that, ifit doesn't hit that in the box
office, then it becomes a ab-rated movie A bomb.
But a true B-rated movie isthose movies that are quickly
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done.
It's under budget, it's aproving ground for actors and
actresses and filmmakers and allthis other stuff.
So I don't think you're quiteputting Blade Runner in the
correct category.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
I don't think.
Mike Gorday (33:01):
Blade Runner was created as a B movie and it just
didn't do well in the boxoffice.
And then what happens is, if itdoesn't hold up to the hype
when it releases, you get what'san underground fandom that
comes along and they recruitmore and more people and then it
becomes a very popular movielater on down the line and that
(33:24):
that feeds into, uh, a lot ofdifferent psychology you know it
feeds into um the same, thesame the same, yes, a community
thing, and also it's all theycall it a cult following,
because there's some cultaspects to it.
So, yeah, okay, that's why.
Nathan Mumm (33:44):
Now, the B movie originally was created for a
bomb.
That's what they call this.
It was a bomb at the box office, but now it has its own
sub-genre category of what a Bmovie is A B movie is just one
of those.
Mike Gorday (34:00):
There's a lot more freedom in how it's filmed and
how it's done and you know,there's a lot of different
reasons why b movies exist.
Okay, whether it becomes a cultclassic or a a favorite.
I mean there's tons and tons ofmovies out there that nobody
knows about, nobody cares abouthoward the duck, howard the duck
yeah, there's, there's a cultfollowing of howard the you
think so?
Pretty sure.
(34:20):
Okay, it pops up on streamingservices every once in a while.
Marc Gregoire (34:25):
All right, okay.
Nathan Mumm (34:28):
Well, thank you, Mike, for that mesmerizing
moment.
Mike Gorday (34:30):
Yeah, I'm sure that was really mesmerizing.
Nathan Mumm (34:32):
That was mesmerizing for me.
Mike Gorday (34:33):
I'm going to go home and watch baseballs Are you
.
Nathan Mumm (34:35):
Okay, all right Up.
Next we have this Week inTechnology, so now would be a
great time to enjoy a littlewhiskey on the side, as we're
going to be doing so during thebreak.
You're listening to Tech TimeRadio with Nathan Mumm.
See you in a few minutes.
Hey, mike, yeah, what's?
Speaker 5 (34:47):
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Speaker 1 (35:53):
And now let's look back at this week in technology.
Nathan Mumm (35:59):
Alright, going back to our way back machine, we're
going to June 17th 1980.
The first two video games werecopyrighted.
Now, atari's Asteroids andLunar Lander two of some of my
favorite first video gamesbecame the first two video games
to get registered by the USCopyright Office.
This was a crucial step in thedevelopment of intellectual
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property rights for the emergingvideo game industry.
Now, with over 400,000 activecopyrighted games in the United
States, it's key that theunderlying source code and the
game's artistic elements,including art, music and
dialogue, can be protected bycopyright law.
However, gameplay elements of avideo game are generally
(36:45):
ineligible for any copyrights.
Did you know that?
No, so, that makes sense, whythere's so many knockoffs of
Grand Theft Auto, right?
I mean, you got Mafia, which isa knockoff of that.
You got tons of other videogames that take the same type of
experience and then createtheir own worlds or their own
(37:06):
versions of those worlds.
So it just tells you that youcan copyright the people, the
artists and the music and art.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Okay, nobody cares.
Nathan Mumm (37:15):
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Now we're going to move on toour special guest segment.
Today we have James Riddle.
James has been a longtimecontributor to the program.
(37:37):
James, our special guest, ishere to talk about what's going
on in the medical research andinnovation.
James has spent the last 25years working in the clinical
research fields and lends hisexpertise to our audience to
help break down what's going onin the world of research.
You can also follow him onLinkedIn.
Let's start our next segment.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Welcome to the segment we call Ask the Experts
With our Tech Time Radio expertJames Riddle.
Nathan Mumm (38:04):
Hi James, great to have you back on the show.
Hi James, all right, so pleasetell the listeners a little bit
about yourself.
James Riddle (38:10):
All right.
So I've been around doingclinical research, oversight,
medical ethics and items relatedto interesting research and
innovation For goodness sincethe latter part of the 20th
century, so I appreciate beingon the show.
It's always a good time.
I am going to rethink how Iinteract with the Waymos here in
(38:33):
the Phoenix Valley.
Sure, that last segment.
I have to say I never reallythought of them as mobile
surveillance vehicles, but Ican't unsee that now, don't
firebomb them.
Nathan Mumm (38:45):
Yeah, and also be very careful.
Anything that you say in thereis recorded and they do go back
and transcribe it.
So if you have a conversationon your phone with a loved one
or something like that, they gotall that information on your
profile.
Mike Gorday (38:56):
You don't use them, do you?
James Riddle (38:58):
No, I have not partaken in one of the Waymos.
I do see them driving aroundtown.
There are a lot of them, I meanthey seem to be just about
everywhere.
I have not had the opportunityor the desire to want to get
into one of them yet.
However, I would have to assumethat possibly Uber and Lyft
have the same type of clauses intheir contract when you get
(39:21):
into one of their vehicles.
Nathan Mumm (39:22):
So probably I think all of the autonomous driving
vehicles will probably have thesame exact terminology that they
can record you and you can't berecording them in the future.
And if they don't have thatwritten now, I'm sure they're
adding that to that.
So you know what?
Just go and hop in an Uber witha real person and then you can
talk with them.
Mike Gorday (39:43):
That's what you just said.
They probably have the same.
They probably have the samestuff going on.
Nathan Mumm (39:47):
I don't know if you .
I don't know if you could dothat because as a driver in
there, then you would also haveto be all recorded and all your
stuff would go to uber and Ithink there could.
I don't know.
You know what.
I have not done the researchinto that.
I did do the research intoseeing what was going on in the
recording stuff with Nick.
James Riddle (40:02):
I think you basically just have to assume
that everybody is watching youall of the time for everything
that you do, yep, and you justhave to kind of be okay with
that.
Mike Gorday (40:10):
See, you know, I got crazy neighbors that always
come and knock on my door andask me while I'm cussing at them
.
Oh, really yeah.
Nathan Mumm (40:18):
Isn't that you're just cussing at your?
Mike Gorday (40:19):
That's just me yelling at the TV.
Nathan Mumm (40:20):
Okay, or my Roomba, all right.
Mike Gorday (40:22):
That's spinning on the carpet In circles In circles
, all right.
Nathan Mumm (40:25):
So we love AI topics here, james, and you know
what, mike, that's his favoritesubject.
If he could talk about AI face,you know everybody's got a
unique face, but what if youcould actually get a facelift
(40:45):
and actually change your face?
Is there stuff that is beingworked on right now regarding
our DNA that would actually moveinto the real world with this
type of prospect?
James Riddle (40:57):
The short answer to that is yes, and I think that
maybe a couple of years back wewere having a segment about how
close technologists were tobeing able to reproduce a
reasonable facsimile of what youmight look like just by looking
at your DNA.
A couple of years back it wasstill in its infancy now easily
(41:18):
obtainable.
There's a recent article cameout in BGR that there was a
research group over in China ofcourse, because they can do
stuff like this that maybe wecan't they got together 10,000
volunteers, took high resolutionpictures of their face, took
their DNA, ran them through highpoweredpowered AI-enabled
(41:41):
technology and they were able toget just with DNA.
So nothing else like you, justyou got a fingernail, you got a
hair clipping, some kind of skincell left behind.
They were able to get areasonable representation of
someone's face down to threemillimeters, which is not quite
enough for facial recognition.
Yet, but that was with a sampleof just 10,000 people, and so
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what they did is they took thepicture, then they took the DNA
from the 10,000 people, theyloaded it into the AI unit and
then they took DNA from somebodywho wasn't in the sample set
and they were able to have beentrained.
They trained the AI to be ableto reproduce the face.
But here's the cool part.
Nathan Mumm (42:22):
Yep.
James Riddle (42:23):
When they added in age, sex and body mass index.
So think about, like, what thepolice officers might ask a
witness.
Yeah.
Like what did the person looklike?
Well, they were, you know, five, six male, 200 pounds.
When they loaded those threeparameters in, nothing else.
(42:44):
Okay, it got down to threemicrometers, which is facial
recognition territory.
So skin cells, age, sex, bodymass index and all of a sudden
you've got facial recognitiontagging you on the system.
Mike Gorday (43:00):
And that's what we can do on the system.
That's why china wants to stealall our deal here not too long
from now yeah, so?
Nathan Mumm (43:05):
so let me just say that.
So all of our data from ourmedical providers at least my
medical providers these largecompanies have been breached.
So they would have my body massindex, they would have my
height, they would have myweight, they would have, uh,
lots of information in there.
So you're saying that theycould recreate a beautiful
picture of this Nathan Mum faceall the way, accurate enough
(43:28):
that it could actually be usedin surveillance items?
James Riddle (43:33):
Yeah, so not saying that the law enforcement
and the like are doing that now,but the research group over in
China proved that it could bedone pretty easily.
Nathan Mumm (43:43):
Hmm, well, I'll tell you what the police do do
now.
Mike Gorday (43:45):
Well, that's why China wants all our DNA from
like uh 23 and me yeah, 23 andme, yeah, yeah, now watch it.
James Riddle (43:52):
If and even if you get a facelift and the like, it
still doesn't change theunderlying bone structure of
your face and so facialrecognition.
I mean you have to get somefairly significant cosmetic
surgery to fake the facialrecognition.
Mike Gorday (44:06):
Yeah, that's great, especially with the technology
that does the DNA sniffing thatwe talked about in crime scenes.
Yeah, so okay Well that's howwe start out.
I'm not going out of my houseanymore, I'm just going to stay
in my house.
Nathan Mumm (44:24):
Well, next how we start out.
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not goingout of my house anymore, I'm
just gonna stay in my house.
Well, next story story.
So we just talked about dna forfacelift, so that means it's
100 accurate with the rightinformation, so great.
We'll be seeing lots of clonesof mike and nathan around the
streets.
Uh, coming up here in thepacific northwest.
Now let's go to the next story.
Now this is a marvel of a story, all right.
Or should we say a spider-manmarvel of a story, all right.
Or should we say a Spider-ManMarvel of a story let's talk
about?
What do you have going on withspiders?
(44:45):
Explain this.
What do we got going on here,james?
James Riddle (44:47):
Yeah, so there was a very interesting article in a
journal called InterestingEngineering no pun intended
where I think we've talked aboutCRISPR-Cas9 on the show before.
The ability to take DNA andmake very specific changes to
the DNA, insert it back into theorganism and then the organism
will adopt the traits of theupdated genetic code, Useful for
(45:11):
all kinds of things, fromcuring blindness to other traits
that you might want to insertinto crops or things of that
nature.
Mike Gorday (45:20):
Making T-Rex purses .
James Riddle (45:22):
Yeah, exactly, this is the first time that
they've done it in spiders.
Okay, they took a relativelycommon house spider the
researchers in this particulararticle and they genetically
engineered the spider so that itproduced red fluorescent spider
silk.
Okay, the spider so that itproduced red fluorescent spider
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silk.
So spider silk is an amazingbiologic phenomenon.
We have not been able, ashumans, to reproduce the
characteristics of spider silk,but we've finally been able to
take a little bit of time togenetically engineer the spider
to make it glow red, which waskind of interesting.
So you can picture all kinds ofcommercial applications for
(46:06):
this, from geneticallyengineered silkworms that are
going to produce glowing flowershirts like the one I've got on
today.
Nathan Mumm (46:13):
Wow Okay.
Speaker 5 (46:17):
That just wasn't that interesting.
If you're into.
Nathan Mumm (46:18):
Spider-Man, though Well speaking of.
James Riddle (46:20):
Spider-Man.
Like speaking of of spider-man.
If you can genetically engineerthe spider to put out glowing
fluorescent spider silk, likeyou could genetically engineer
the spider to do like all kindsof cool stuff yeah, you could,
yeah, wow.
Mike Gorday (46:34):
Well, sir, it'll certainly make haunted houses
more awesome, you get shot withstuff, all right it's like yeah,
it's gonna be a combination ofhaunted houses and raves all
right.
Nathan Mumm (46:44):
Now spider-man has an enemy.
One of his enemies is known asvenom right, and this is a
bacteria-like creature fromanother planet, right man is
that?
Is that correct mike?
This is how we lead into thenext story.
Yeah, nathan, nathan has tocombine everything with sci-fi,
that's right now, do we havesomething that is growing from
(47:04):
out of this world on one of ourspace stations?
James Riddle (47:07):
oh yeah, this.
This is a good segue from the,from the glowing spider silk and
the ability to recreatepeople's faces.
Uh, so the space station, thespace station it's not unique to
them.
Nasa had this about a year ago.
Okay, microbes up on the spacestation are transforming
(47:28):
themselves to exist in space,things like so they found
recently it was in an articlecalled Science Alert they found
some microbes up on the Chinesespace station that don't exist
on Earth.
They had hitched a ride withsomething that went up you know
supplies or whatever and theyhad the microbes that they found
(47:52):
on the space station hadmodified themselves to have
protection against radiation aswell as some other unique
characteristics that don't existon the similar microbe down
here on Earth.
So new adaptation from themicrobes up in space just brings
back all kinds of wonderfulsci-fi movies of space, and it
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didn't necessarily seem to poseany immediate threat to the
astronauts who were on the spacestation.
Nasa came to the sameconclusion last year, but it was
interesting that after acertain amount of time up in
space the microbes started toadapt to the environment pretty
quickly.
It makes you wonder what wouldhappen when humans make it to
(48:37):
Mars and are out there for yearsand years when humans make it
to Mars and are out there foryears and years, it has all
kinds of scientific implicationsand interesting things you can
learn from how microbes and thelike adapt out in space.
Mike Gorday (48:48):
So are these microbes?
Are they transferred frominternal to internal?
Are they from an external tothe ex meaning?
Are they outside the spacestation?
James Riddle (48:58):
No, my understanding from the article
is it was stuff that was insidethe space station.
So it's inside themicroenvironment of the space
station, with the air andeverything else that's going on
with the humans.
Not surprising that we wouldtake viruses and all kinds of
crazy junk up there with us.
Anything that's in the air ofthe space capsule gets released
into the space station.
Somehow these microbes got in.
(49:19):
Not surprising that they werethere.
What was surprising was themutations and adaptations that
they were adopting because oftheir life in space.
Okay, well, there's Darwin, yeahso it wasn't like something was
outside the space stationdigging its way in.
Mike Gorday (49:38):
I think that's what Nathan thought was that it was
outside the space Like thatmovie.
Life where they get somethingand then it goes out Kills
everybody.
Nathan Mumm (49:49):
Okay, james, thank you so much for being a part of
our show.
We're out of time.
How can people get in touchwith you offline so they can
have more great conversationsabout all this great stuff that
you have information regarding?
James Riddle (50:03):
thanks.
Yeah, the best way to get intouch with me is to just look me
up on linkedin.
Uh, send out a send out alinkedin request, and that's the
best way to get ahold of meperfect, all right, james,
thanks all right, take care guysthe segment we've been waiting
all week for Mark's WhiskeyMumble.
Marc Gregoire (50:31):
Today, today.
I wish today was Saturday.
Why is that?
This past Saturday was NationalBourbon Day.
Nathan Mumm (50:38):
Oh, I hope you guys enjoyed it, did you?
Marc Gregoire (50:40):
celebrate?
Oh, of course.
Okay what's today?
That's the more importantquestion.
Nathan Mumm (50:47):
What is today?
A national B-rated movie day?
No, I don't think so.
Marc Gregoire (50:53):
Today, is National Mascot Day.
Oh, okay, national Mascot yeah,we celebrate and appreciate the
spirit of fun mascots bringingto every event National mascot
yeah, we celebrate andappreciate the spirit of fun
mascots bringing to every eventPeople of all ages, children and
adults alike, except maybe MikeEnjoy, and they help build
memories of their favorite team.
Now, the word mascot originatesfrom the French word mascotte,
(51:14):
used to describe things thatbring good luck.
Mike Gorday (51:18):
Wow, good luck to both of you, alright.
Marc Gregoire (51:21):
Now mascots are not just foam suits and
sidelines.
Some show up in more subtle,spirited ways.
Enter sazerach rye, nice.
Thank you, mike.
It may not have a furry costume, but this rye whiskey carries
history and swagger that rivalsany sports mascot.
Originating from new orleans,and tied to the country's first
(51:42):
branded cocktail, it stands as abold, unmistakable symbol of
American rye.
Sazerac rye is named after theSazerac Coffee House in New
Orleans, where many consider itto be America's first cocktail.
The Sazerac was born in themid-1800s Now.
Originally, it was made withcognac.
The Sazerac was born in themid-1800s Now.
Originally, it was made withcognac.
The Sazerac, the recipe evolvedinto a rye whiskey-based
(52:04):
cocktail when insects devastatedFrench vineyards.
Oh and cognac became scarce.
Even more fascinating, theSazerac company, which owns the
brand, literally trademarked theofficial cocktail of New
Orleans, making it the only cityin the US to have an official
cocktail, thanks in part, tothis bottle of rye.
Wow, okay, now this whiskey isa staple on my cocktail shelf.
(52:26):
What was funny about?
Mike Gorday (52:29):
that I don't know.
Nathan Mumm (52:31):
You're just like yeah, okay, is this glass empty
over there.
Mike Gorday (52:33):
He's so interested in that.
Marc Gregoire (52:35):
No, I am.
Mike Gorday (52:36):
No, keep on going.
Marc Gregoire (52:43):
I'm already done with mine.
I was going to say.
This cocktail is on my shelfand rarely lasts long,
especially during the coldermonths when I find myself
reaching for it time and againto craft a classic rye based
cocktail.
It's bold and spicy profilemakes it ideal for Manhattans,
old fashions and Sazeracs,adding warmth and complexity
that perfectly complement winterflavors.
It's one of these bottles Ikeep in stock because it's
reliability, versatility andit's a crowd-pleasing character.
Nathan Mumm (53:05):
All right Now, since it's mascot day.
What is the world's mostrecognizable mascot?
Marc Gregoire (53:11):
Cody quick, you guys give me a guess it's the
Santa Cruz slug.
Nope, Incorrect.
Nathan Mumm (53:17):
Number one mascot Mike, I don't care.
Speaker 5 (53:22):
All right, is it the Chicago Bulls one?
Nathan Mumm (53:26):
No, it's not, that would have been the fun one.
Mike Gorday (53:28):
It's not the San Diego Chicken either.
What?
Nathan Mumm (53:32):
It's not Mickey Mouse.
Marc Gregoire (53:36):
This is what Nathan was doing when I was
talking about the whiskey.
Mike Gorday (53:40):
That's why he sounded so excited.
He was so busy trying to Allright, okay, well, you know what
Thanks to make you go.
Nathan Mumm (53:47):
What a great pairing, just like Spaceballs
and Blazing Saddles, two movieclassics.
Yeah, you bombed that one.
That's all right.
All right.
Now let's prepare for ourtechnology fail of the week.
Congratulations, you're afailure.
Speaker 8 (54:01):
Oh, I failed.
Did I yes, did I yes.
Nathan Mumm (54:05):
All right, this technology fail will probably
fade us out into the end of theshow.
All right, AI startup builderai.
Guess what?
It lost $85 million in ameltdown because it was found
out that it was a pretender andnot a contender.
Because it was found out thatit was a pretender and not a
contender, this Builder AI appwas essentially 700 coders in
(54:29):
disguise in India that were allpretending to be the AI company
in itself.
Well, guess what?
This is not the only companythat has failed on AI Amazon,
remember.
Mike Gorday (54:36):
Amazon If I want.
So what this is is like a bunchof people doing customer
service and pretending it's notcustom, pretending it's ai right
, yes, and you're.
You're chatting with a livehuman being and it's pretending
that it's ai yes, that iscorrect I don't well, I'm okay,
I want.
(54:56):
I want to engage with realpeople when I call or I chat.
Marc Gregoire (55:01):
Well, it's a little bit more than chat on
this one.
Nathan Mumm (55:03):
It was AI developer code.
Marc Gregoire (55:04):
It was code too, it was an AI to write software
code for you.
Nathan Mumm (55:08):
Now, do you remember those Amazon stores
where you could go on in and youcould grab a?
Mike Gorday (55:12):
deal.
Nathan Mumm (55:13):
Amazon Go.
Remember that stores they don'texist anymore.
You know what that was.
That wasn't AI detecting youwalking out.
That was somebody in Indiawatching a camera of you in the
store, and then they would haveto go back and put all the items
that you put in there to sendyou the bill afterwards.
So a lot of AI fakers.
Marc Gregoire (55:32):
All right With that, let's move on, never mind
what was that.
Mike Gorday (55:36):
I'll have to think about why these exist, because
that's kind of dumb.
Nathan Mumm (55:41):
Because you can get $85 million invested into your
AI company when you have 700engineers in.
Mike Gorday (55:47):
India doing it.
I suppose they probably madeout pretty well.
Nathan Mumm (55:50):
Huh, yes, they do now behind bars.
All right, let's move to ourpick of the day whiskey tasting.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings
.
Marc Gregoire (56:03):
Let's see what bubbles to the top well, except
for nathan sazerach rye whiskeyneeds no introduction for most
people.
Oh wow, buffalo tracedistillery 90 proof, five years.
Nathan Mumm (56:15):
Of course I know what that I don't know get on
your ai chatbot and figure itout $30.
$30.
Absolutely Thumbs up.
Thumbs up for Nathan.
Mr Gorday, what are you goingto give it?
Mike Gorday (56:25):
Oh, I already gave it a thumbs up.
Thumbs up, all right, and Mikegives it a thumbs up and Mark
gives it a thumbs up.
Marc Gregoire (56:34):
Odie gives it a.
I use this as a sipper.
This is not on my sipping shelf.
Okay, this is your mixer.
This is a great mixer.
It makes great cocktails andit's a good price.
Nathan Mumm (56:43):
All right, there you go it is.
Marc Gregoire (56:43):
All right, michael, it's very tasty you
like it.
Mike Gorday (56:49):
I think dude over here has set out to convert me
to a rye drinker.
Marc Gregoire (56:54):
I think so, and what we got to get on the show
is the big brother, because thisis baby saz the big brother.
There's two big brothers tothis one.
One is thomas h, handy, okay,which is the same mash bill, but
it's at um barrel strength,okay, delicious, but it's a
b-tac, okay.
And the other b-tac is sazrac18.
It's this mash bill, this proofpoint, but it's age 18 years,
(57:15):
18 years, but those those aren't$35 bottles.
No, no, On the secondary marketthe Handy is around $400 or $500
, and the Sazerac 18 is in thethousands.
Thousands, sorry, Okay, welleverybody.
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