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The digital landscape is shifting beneath our feet as free streaming services continue to vanish. Amazon's Freevee joins the growing list of casualties, leaving consumers with fewer no-cost options while paid services paradoxically charge premium prices yet still bombard viewers with advertisements. This troubling trend prompted a spirited discussion about the psychological tactics companies employ to normalize paying for content that still contains commercials.

A fascinating study reveals unexpected insights about our relationships with robots possessing different personality traits. While people generally enjoy interacting with confident, extroverted AI, they find neurotic robots surprisingly relatable—even attributing emotional depth where none exists. This anthropomorphizing tendency raises important questions about how we connect with technology and the blurring lines between human and machine interaction. As one host quipped, "This is technological schizophrenia," highlighting concerns about our growing emotional dependence on artificial companions.

Instagram's controversial new policy requiring 1,000 followers to live stream effectively eliminates a feature many small communities relied upon for intimate gatherings. This fundamental shift away from Instagram's original purpose of connecting small groups mirrors broader changes across social media, where platforms continually modify features to prioritize growth and revenue over community building. Yet despite frequent controversial changes, these platforms maintain their user bases, demonstrating the powerful hold they have on our digital social lives.

The episode also explores Natura AI, a polarizing new product combining earbuds with an AI assistant that responds to voice commands throughout the day. While one host saw potential benefits in having information instantly available, the other condemned it as promoting social disconnection. This tension between technological convenience and human connection underscores the central theme running through the show—how we navigate the complex relationship between innovation and our fundamental need for authentic human experience.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Nathan Mumm (00:31):
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Good afternoon and good evening.
There we go.
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Welcome everyone.
Let's start today's show.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Now on today's show.

Nathan Mumm (01:37):
All right, welcome to Tech Time Radio.
Today on the show we have ourmain segment with Gwen Way and
our gadgets and gear.
This is a gadget that Mike andI may have a different opinion
on it.
We'll need to see you as alistener If you decide to side
with Nathan or with Mike.
And, of course, we have tons ofother subjects we're going to
be talking about, includingMike's mesmerizing moment, our
technology fail the weekend andNathan nugget and, of course,

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our pick of the day, whiskeytasting to see if our selected
whiskey pick gets zero, one ortwo thumbs up at the end of the
show.
It looks like we're doing ourplayoffs with the whiskey today,
so we'll have to see what wegot.
Is that what this is?
Yeah, this is the whiskey.
It's the top of the month, sowe got our whiskey competition.
There's only two here.
I know that's not enough for usto drink for our normal show.
Who or who is it?

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I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Okay, Well, everybody welcome.
Let's start with the toptechnology stories of the week.

Nathan Mumm (02:30):
Here are our top technology stories of the week.
All right Story number one.
Popular streaming services areshutting down all the time now
and Amazon prepares to pull theplug on Freebie.
Have you heard of Freebie?

Mike Gorday (02:42):
Yeah.

Nathan Mumm (02:43):
Okay, well, guess what?
An exact end date is notannounced, but the app is
expected to stop working at theend of this month.
Let's go to Lisa Walker withmore on the story.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
After years of offering the free streaming TV
service Freebie through astandalone app, amazon plans to
shut down the service next month.
Launched in 2019 under theAmazon-owned IMDb website, the
app offers free ad-supportedcontent including TV shows,
movies, original programming andsome Amazon Prime content.

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Out of 10 once-free streamingservices, we now are down to 2.5
, pluto TV, tubi and RokuChannel.
If you have a Roku device, backto you guys in the studio.

Nathan Mumm (03:31):
All right, we got to talk about this.
All right, Do we?
Do we really need to talk?

Mike Gorday (03:34):
about it.

Nathan Mumm (03:35):
We keep on talking about it.
You remember there was a timewhen we did streaming services.
There was a new one that wouldpop up every two or three months
.
That was available.

Mike Gorday (03:42):
You didn't have to pay.
Everybody's figuring out how toscrew the American public.
Wow.

Nathan Mumm (03:49):
Okay.
Well, freebie will shut down atthe end of this month.
Amazon has confirmed it willdiscontinue the app at the end
of August.
However, the exact date stillhasn't been said.
When you go and actually loginto the Freebie application, as
I did, checking up on the story, it said it should happen at
the end of this month.
So they're kind of vague onwhen they're going to pull it.
But they're also vague on whythey're pulling it.
They're saying that most ofthis content most will be now

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available on Amazon Primewithout requiring a paid
membership.
So if you just have a standardAmazon Prime login, you're going
to be able to get this stillwith the ads.
Standard amazon prime login,you're going to be able to get
this still with the ads.
Uh, amazon announced theshutdown aligns with amazon's
previous statement from lastyear that indicated plans to
discontinue the service.

Mike Gorday (04:33):
Now very interesting, rather redundant
was that that seems ratherredundant.

Nathan Mumm (04:38):
So here we are at two, so I have a roku tv, so I
get the roku station, I get tobe and I forget what the, what
the other one was, was it?
What was the other app on thatod?
Did you remember?

Ody (04:50):
pluto, and another thing that you're forgetting yeah, is
samsung also has their own.

Nathan Mumm (04:56):
Uh, oh, they kind of do that, if you have a
samsung device, you have yourown free kind of it's like the
roku, so there's a couple ofthese now with your device that
you have available.
I I kind of I myself go tothese stations looking for the
old 60s and 70s westerns,looking for the old my two dads,
some of the old content that amatlock, some of these old

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things um, back in the day whenthey were on television have
been free on these services, andI actually enjoyed jumping on
in watching a happy days episodehere, a little bit of a
commercial.
My real problem that I have now, though, is I pay for Netflix,
I play for paramount plus, I payfor Hulu, I pay for ESPN

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extended, I pay for all theseservices and guess what, I still
have to watch commercials.

Mike Gorday (05:44):
So I am now paying they all have premium services
right.

Nathan Mumm (05:47):
So well, they have premium premium services money
from you yes, in the 19 to 20 amonth range, if I won most
services.
I wouldn't get a commercial,but I am cheap where I only want
to pay the nine dollar orfourteen dollars see, that's.

Mike Gorday (06:00):
That's the problem with, with our, our american
business acumen is they're goingto keep digging you until you
give them more money and at somepoint they're going to over
overdo it and then losecustomers.
Is that okay?

Nathan Mumm (06:15):
I?
I it's just I really enjoyedhaving streaming services with a
little bit of ad content, andthe ad content on these services
were never really the grade acommercials, they were kind of
grade b and grade c commercials.
So it was kind of some of thesewere handmade a little bit of a
lower budget and I kind ofactually enjoyed watching the
commercials that would, uh, beon here.

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They had, like some gallagherlaw office firm that would be on
here a couple times, a coupleother type of funny little ads
okay, and now they're all gone.

Mike Gorday (06:44):
I don't know what your problem is.

Nathan Mumm (06:46):
So those good funny ads are gone.
Now I'm back to the high-endcommercial ads for stuff that
I'm paying for.
So I I'm just I guess I'm justmad in general that these free
services are going away well,even with the free services, you
had like 10 minutes ofcommercials yeah, a couple at
one time you know You'd have itout of bulk.
That would be when you get upand went to the restroom.

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You ever remember back in theolden days when we had
television and commercials?
You'd get up, you'd go to therestroom, you'd grab whatever
you needed to do, You'd get onback in about that minute and a
half, two minute type of windowand everything was perfect ready
to go?
Yeah, yeah, Do you rememberback in the olden days when we

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had to use a?

Mike Gorday (07:28):
dial a rotor from, and well, those days are coming
back.
We talk about them ontechnology shows, right?
Everybody's trying to get backthere.
I don't know what the hell.
All right, here we go, allright?

Nathan Mumm (07:32):
well, make me feel better with story number two
here, mike.
I don't know why you give methese.

Mike Gorday (07:37):
What do you mean?
You know why we give you theseyeah, okay, okay so I guess, I
guess they, you know, did astudy on robot personalities.

Nathan Mumm (07:46):
Okay.

Mike Gorday (07:47):
And guess what, what People really like
extroverted robots, but theyrelate to the neurotic ones.

Nathan Mumm (07:55):
Okay, well explain more on that.

Mike Gorday (07:58):
This is ridiculous.
All right, so you know, likeC-3PO, yes, do you?

Nathan Mumm (08:08):
consider him an extrovert no c-3.

Mike Gorday (08:09):
Oh yeah, I know he's like your worst, isn't it?
He is the worst.
He's a white, he's a whinybitch, wow, but but it's.
It's weird because if you look,if you look at the original
star wars, he was kind of like atranslator.
No, he was just a bit of acomplainer okay but as the
movies went on, he, he developedthis, this kind of high,

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high-pitched, whiny voice that Ijust really can't, I really
can't relate to.
Okay but, apparently c-3pocomes off as relatable to people
okay, okay and, yeah, I canunderstand that.
All right.
So while neurotic robots are astaple of science fiction, just
think of cp, c-3po, marvin inthe hitchhiker's guide to the

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galaxy.
Now, see, I like marvin becausemarvin was this total downer
and okay was always complainingabout everything all right so it
was.
It's a different, but at leastmarvin didn't have this
high-pitched whiny voice.
Okay, the high-pitched, whinyvoice they haven't really been a
focus of research until intohow people react to their
personalities, but one recentstudy found that a highly

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neurotic robot provoked someinteresting responses.
Okay, they found it to be morerelatable.
The experiment involved ahuman-shaped robot made of white
plastic.
People who were visiting amuseum in chicago were randomly
invited to go into a room andinteract with the robot, which
was described as a restaurantgreeter okay man has skynet

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really worked hard on these.
All right, the bot and theperson had to sit together and
just answer some simplequestions all right the first
one is what are three thingsthat you are grateful for?
When the robot had been given ahighly extroverted personality,
it spoke of being super gratefulfor the amazing people and it
got to meet each day.
The best part of its job was,hands down, meeting the folks.

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Okay, and I don't like thiseither.
Okay, I'm not the guy thatreally likes people going around
.
Oh, I'm super grateful abouteverything.
Even I just can't do it.
I just can't do it.
Okay, so this study would havejust not worked on me.
It would not have, no, but whenthe robot was given a highly
neurotic personality, it spokemore tentatively, peppering its

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answer with filler words like um, and it said it was grateful
for having a job where it couldkeep things organized, so it
could stay focused and avoidunexpected issues.
All right, the experiment alsoincluded a third version, which
is commonly called the controlversion, with a more typical
robot personality that was blandand flat.

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People generally didn't likethat one.
Okay, overall, they rated theextroverted bot as the most
enjoyable to interact withpersonality.
That was bland and flat peoplegenerally didn't like that one.
Okay, overall, they rated theextroverted bot as the most
enjoyable to interact with, butthe neurotic was described as
being surprisingly able tounderstand deep emotions.
This is where I start havingproblems, of course.
Okay, deep emotions yeah, so I'memotionally the robot does not
understand deep emotions okaybut we, we, we related to it, we

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start relating to it, we startanthropomorphizing it, and then
that's when we start giving itqualities that it doesn't have.
Okay, uh, one person remarkedthat the neurotic robot seemed
like a person who was trying toget by in the world, while
another comment that I think weboth seem to make an effort to
think about ourselves and do alot of inner contemplation boy
okay so the so they wererelating that that the robot was

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having problems to.

Nathan Mumm (11:31):
Okay, I just can't, I don't I don't understand all
right.

Mike Gorday (11:35):
We found a lot of joy and fun in seeing that
personality who says sarah sebo,a computer science researcher
at the university of chicago,one of the authors of the study.
We felt there was a lot ofnovelty in trying to explore,
like, what does it mean for arobot to express neuroticism?
But at the same time he thinksthere was also a question of
when this would actually behelpful.

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Focus on extroversion isunderstandable, given that
robots are being sold to doskill-based tasks that require
an appearance of positivity andconfidence, like customer
service, which, of course, wehas gone downhill since the 70s.

Nathan Mumm (12:10):
Okay we're going back to the 70s.
It's a 70s retro show.

Mike Gorday (12:16):
Okay, there we go, all right uh, neurotic traits
such as anxiety, worry aboutperformance plus fear and
sadness haven't been seen asuseful.
For example, imagine if yourautonomous vehicle was neurotic.
Yeah, that would.
That would be fun with your.

Nathan Mumm (12:31):
You know your tesla was going, tesla's going around
, going around.

Ody (12:35):
I feel depressed and I'm gonna slam on the brakes yeah,
doing a bunch of slowing downand you know, I wouldn't be
opposed if, if I had an electriccar and it would just go around
like R2-D2.

Nathan Mumm (12:48):
So you just want noises.

Ody (12:49):
Yeah, I think that would be cute.
Like me raging on the freewayand instead of me freaking out,
my car is just going.

Mike Gorday (12:58):
Well see, r2-d2 was an angry robot.

Nathan Mumm (13:00):
Yeah, exactly that's Mike's favorite, that's
fine.

Mike Gorday (13:03):
Mike likes the angry robot, but the one that's
mike's favorite.
That's mike likes the angryrobot, but the one that's going.
Why do we have to be in trafficright now?
Yeah, I hate that.

Nathan Mumm (13:11):
I, I I just wish it wasn't so dark outside today.
It was dark outside today.
Why are people so mean?
I?
Feel so down I don't know allright well, so what happens?
How did this conclude?

Mike Gorday (13:29):
Do people want to pay money for a neurotic, or do
they want to pay for a confidentone?
I guess they just want theextroverted one.
Okay, I don't know.
Okay.

Nathan Mumm (13:38):
All right Okay.

Mike Gorday (13:39):
There is no.
People want to buy stuff.

Ody (13:42):
Yeah, do you think there's a market out there for people
that are wanting to talk to itsRoomba?
You know, would you want totalk to your Roomba?
Yes, michael.

Mike Gorday (13:50):
In today's society.
Yes, there are plenty of peoplethat want their Roomba to be
able to chat with them.
This is the same piece ofcarpet I've traveled over five
different times.
Why do you keep dropping crumbsright here?

Nathan Mumm (14:06):
what's your problem ?
Would you like that as a room?
No, I, I would.

Mike Gorday (14:11):
She kicked like my alexa telling me, telling me
stuff when I don't want her totell me oh wait, we got a story
about alexa later in thisepisode today shut up, alexa I
don't want to talk to you rightnow.
Okay, we're going to talk aboutalexa plusley but yeah, I mean,
this is so this is.
This is not a surprise to me.
Yeah, because we, as people,we're we're looking for

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relatableness, and if you have arobot that's showing
neuroticism, then your ownneuroticism is not as bad okay
that that kind of makes sense.

Nathan Mumm (14:43):
I can see that.

Mike Gorday (14:44):
Yeah, alright, I guess we get to in the future.
We get to cruise up toMcDonald's and have a robot be
like hey, how you doing today.
It's a super great day and I'msuper grateful for you to be
here.
You want a Big Mac?

Nathan Mumm (15:09):
Then your neurotic car will respond in the face
your neurotic car.

Mike Gorday (15:10):
While your neurotic car is going, why are we at
mcdonald's this?

Nathan Mumm (15:12):
place sucks all right, okay.
Well, guess what, if you'rebuilding a robot comedian, I I
bet you a little uh I don't know.

Mike Gorday (15:21):
A little the comedy , a little bit of personality
would be better.
Sure, yeah, let's just chat,gpt that up to up to the chain.

Nathan Mumm (15:28):
All right Story.
Number three Instagram nolonger allows public accounts to
go live If they have less thana thousand followers.
It's kind of a big deal.
Instagram during.
Covid, how do you get yourfollowers If you can't go live
the whole idea of Instagram wasto have like small private
groups Of like 20-30 peoplewhere you could all talk to each
other, you could go live andyou can share stuff.

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Now Instagram Requires you tohave A thousand followers.

Ody (15:54):
So that's the same realm of TikTok, because TikTok also has
that same.

Nathan Mumm (15:58):
It does.
Tiktok was built with that athousand, so Instagram.

Ody (16:04):
You know that's going to ruin so many parties.

Nathan Mumm (16:07):
Yes, the whole idea of Instagram parties where you
have like 20 people in andyou're all talking about stuff.
Well, users have been reportedover the last few days that
their accounts now aren'teligible for live broadcast.
That's BS On the app.
We changed the requirements touse this feature.
Meta said Reason to notice thatpops up when people try to host
a live stream broadcast totheir followers Only public

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accounts, only public, so youcan't do it private anymore.
Only public accounts with athousand followers or more will
be able to create live videos.
Meta has confirmed the neweligibility requirement on many
publications.
The company told us that itstarted implementing the new
rule in order to ensure thatit's providing the best
experience for its creators thathost live broadcasts is that

(16:51):
really why and it's drivingimprovements really why is that
like instagram or meta going?

Mike Gorday (16:57):
we should be more like tiktok, because we're
kicking our butts, probably that.

Nathan Mumm (17:01):
But I don't know.
Gwen, who's on the chat, saysit's all about the money.
Well, yeah, we all know that.

Mike Gorday (17:09):
That's true, we all know that, but I don't think if
you want to live stream tothree people, I don't know why
you shouldn't be able to.

Nathan Mumm (17:17):
Yeah that was the whole idea that you could have
small groups live stream.
You're all talking about amovie.
You're talking about a bookclub, Book clubs and stuff.
I know use this all the time.

Mike Gorday (17:26):
Not that I'm in any book club.

Nathan Mumm (17:28):
But if you were in a book club or a small group,
you could have all your peopletalk about what's going on.
You could live stream, youcould read the book, you could
do stuff.
Now you would have to have athousand people and have to be
no longer private but a publicaccount to broadcast.

Ody (17:43):
See, you're talking about this, and the only thing that's
going through my head are thoseuncles and aunts that are always
at the quince in the background, streaming to like three
members of the family, of thewhole party.
What are they going to do now?

Nathan Mumm (17:56):
They're going to have to find a brand new
streaming platform.

Mike Gorday (17:58):
I guess they're just going to have to take
pictures and post it, likeeverybody else.

Nathan Mumm (18:02):
On Meta's Facebook, but maybe they'll only allow
those to go public after youhave a thousand followers on
your private Facebook.

Mike Gorday (18:07):
We need to get rid of social media altogether, all
right.

Nathan Mumm (18:10):
Well, uh, instagram did not clarify, uh why it did
this, but it does say that userswith below a thousand followers
uh will not be able to livestream coming soon.

Mike Gorday (18:22):
Well, yeah, okay.

Nathan Mumm (18:24):
Uh meta did say, the new requirement applies to
not just the public but alsoprivate accounts.
However, the change has onlystarted to roll out to the
private accounts, so it likelymeans that Instagram is killing
the ability to do live streamsfor up to three close friends
where you can hang out, and thiswas a part of their feature
platform that launched in 2024as getting connected with each

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other, and clearly it lasted ayear and a half and now they're
pulling it wow, so maybe maybemeta instagram tiktok tiktok did
it successfully in instagram weknow we're just, they're just
copying them, but I think theymight be.

Mike Gorday (19:02):
They want to save bandwidth.

Nathan Mumm (19:04):
They want to save costs, so it's about the money.

Mike Gorday (19:08):
Go get those followers there, you go Well,
that ends our top technologies.
What happens when all thoseInstagram people go to TikTok?

Nathan Mumm (19:13):
Well, they're just going to go to a new platform.
Well, the small platforms.
Instagram is the only platformI know that can keep on screwing
itself up, and yet people stillgo back to use it, I don't get
it, I do not get it.

Mike Gorday (19:25):
Hey, you just described the human condition
right there.

Nathan Mumm (19:28):
Is it?

Mike Gorday (19:30):
TikTok really hasn't changed.
We do stuff like this all thetime.

Nathan Mumm (19:32):
Their platform should die.
Meta should lose Instagram.
Instagram should go away.
Meta should just focus onFacebook and TikTok and other
services.

Mike Gorday (19:40):
Have you ever wondered why customer service
has been really crappy the last20 years?

Nathan Mumm (19:44):
Yeah, because they got rid of it.
During COVID, customer servicewent to zero.
You would be lucky if you couldget a hold of anybody.

Mike Gorday (19:52):
That's not it.
They figured out that they canjust ignore customer service and
they would still have customers, or you could be like T-Mobile.
Because that's what we do.

Nathan Mumm (20:07):
And you go in and you talk to them and the
customer service rep says, yes,we can do this.
Yes, we can do this.
Yes, we can do this, sign uphere on the contract.
And then, when you sign up onthe contract and you actually
call back to the customerservice, they say, oh, the guy
shouldn't have done that.
But guess what?
Now you on track.
So guess what?
Best of luck for your next twoyears.
Yeah, t-mobile's customerservice is the worst I thought.

Mike Gorday (20:29):
I thought xfinity's was the worst.

Nathan Mumm (20:32):
Well, xfinity's is like second worst, and then you
need to have a xfinity.

Ody (20:36):
Well, I disagree.
You like xfinity's service?
No, no, I'm saying xfinity isthe top worst of the worst.
No see, that's why that's whywe got there?

Mike Gorday (20:44):
because there's very little choices between
xfinity and other services.

Ody (20:48):
So Xfinity is like we don't care about you.
There's very little choiceswith Instagram and Facebook.

Nathan Mumm (20:53):
Yep, so you really Instagram.

Ody (20:55):
You don't really have a competitor, except for TikTok,
which is interesting because,when you look at MySpace,
MySpace died when Facebook wasintroduced.

Mike Gorday (21:03):
Hey, MySpace is still alive.

Ody (21:05):
Not to the same number.

Nathan Mumm (21:06):
It's not to the same.
Myspace is still alive.
Not to the same number.

Ody (21:07):
It's not to the same numbers but nobody has been able
to like kill off because we allwanted to have our own private
uh website.

Nathan Mumm (21:15):
So back before facebook became popular, we had
we had myspace, we had myspaceand myspace was like our
personal nathan mums, myspacewas a personal website.

Ody (21:24):
That's not what I'm.
That's not what I'm talkingabout.

Nathan Mumm (21:26):
I'm talking about?
Are you mansplaining right now?
I don't know.
What are you trying to tell me?

Ody (21:31):
What I'm trying to say is Facebook came in and killed
MySpace.

Mike Gorday (21:37):
Instagram came in Video killed the radio store.

Ody (21:39):
Yes, Instagram came in and didn't really kill Facebook, but
it did hurt Facebook for alittle bit.

Mike Gorday (21:45):
It did.

Nathan Mumm (21:46):
But Facebook is still thriving.
And then Facebook bought it,and then Facebook bought
Instagram.

Ody (21:49):
But then TikTok is now here and Facebook is still living,
and well.

Nathan Mumm (21:53):
Yes, because there's nobody else to make a
personal webpage.

Ody (21:56):
Right.

Nathan Mumm (21:56):
Where you can share photos, I mean.

Ody (21:58):
No, not this.
Whatever, I give up.
I'm just crashing out.
Wow, she just threw somethingat us.

Nathan Mumm (22:04):
Wow Okay.

Mike Gorday (22:05):
So she just threw something at us.
Wow Okay, so you're trying tosay that you think.

Nathan Mumm (22:07):
MySpace was killed by Facebook, okay, but nobody's
been able to kill Facebook.

Ody (22:13):
Yes, or Instagram, like you said it right now.
Instagram has had so manyissues throughout the years and
they're still one of the biggestplatforms to be used, even
though they're doing all this BSstuff.

Nathan Mumm (22:24):
Just kind of like X in Twitter.
Yeah, exactly as much as youwant to kill the person that
runs X, people still use X andonce they got used to it, they
didn't want to go anyplace else.

Ody (22:35):
Blue sky is out there trying to succeed and nobody
goes to it because they all goback to X.
Yeah, everybody complains aboutNetflix, but they're still
there, they're still thriving.

Nathan Mumm (22:47):
Well, that ends our top technology stories and a
positive note.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
I'm going to be the positive robot here.

Nathan Mumm (22:49):
Congratulations.
Thank you very much, that wasfantastic.
Moving on, we have Gwen Wayjoining us on our next segment,
gadgets and Gear.
Buckle up as we drive 88 milesper hour into our next segment.
See you after the commercialbreak.

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Welcome back to Tech Time withNathan Ma.
Our weekly show covers the toptechnology subjects without any
political agenda.
We verify the facts and do itwith a sense of humor, in less
than 60 minutes and, of course,with a little whiskey on the
side.

Ody (24:05):
You know what's so great about you, Nathan.

Nathan Mumm (24:06):
What's that?

Ody (24:07):
You're a human being.

Nathan Mumm (24:08):
What is that?

Ody (24:10):
Nobody could ever.

Mike Gorday (24:11):
He's not a human being, he's a human doing.
No one could ever what Nobodycould ever.

Ody (24:16):
I would never think to talk about it like that.

Mike Gorday (24:19):
You would never get on live and be like trying to
talk like some weird robot guyNeurotic voice that wasn't
neurotic, that was just moronic.
I was trying to stay veryneutral, very neutral.

Nathan Mumm (24:31):
Well, today, Mark Gregoire, our whiskey
connoisseur, is in the studio.
He has our monthly tradition.
Mark, explain what we do withthe whiskeys this month as the
top of the month for thelisteners.

Marc Gregoire (24:41):
Well, we are using the 2024 Flavor Whiskey
Advent Calendar 24 remarkablewhiskeys used for our year-long
blind whiskey competition to seewhich one Nathan and Mike like
best.
So I invite our listeners tocome along for the ride once a
month while they uncover newtastes and train their senses to
become true connoisseurs.
Nathan is struggling.

Nathan Mumm (25:02):
I'll just tell you.
I got feedback that Mark wasmean to Nathan last week on the
show, so I just want to sharethat feedback.
Nobody was mean to Nathan lastweek on the show, so I just want
to share that feedback.
Nobody was mean to you.
You were commenting on mypalate or lack thereof, and
people were like they think mypalate is very good.

Mike Gorday (25:16):
How would they?

Nathan Mumm (25:16):
know what your palate is like Because they go
with my palate when they buywhiskey from Wines and More
Tracy is wrong.

Mike Gorday (25:27):
Was it your wife who said that we?

Marc Gregoire (25:29):
are in round two and today is the second battle
of round two.
We're going to have three inround two.
This is our second, where youwill choose the winner to move
on to the next round.
If they disagree, I will be thedeciding vote Now.
Today we are tasting twowhiskeys with a lot in common,
but legally they are quitedifferent, uh-oh.
One is a straight bourbon whichhas to be aged at least two

(25:51):
years and, if under four, statedon the label.
Also, it must be from a singlestate and distillery, with no
flavoring finishes or blendingwhatsoever.
The other is a blend ofstraight bourbons, still same
age requirements, still sameadditive free, but because it is
a combination of two or morestraight bourbons.
Still same age requirements,still same additive free, but

(26:12):
because it is a combination oftwo or more straight bourbons,
even if they come from the samedistillery and state, they must
carry blended label by law.
It's a great reminder that inwhiskey, what goes on the label
matters, nathan, just as much aswhat goes in the bottle.
Let us see if our pal pals cantaste the legal difference.
Stay tuned to see which onewins out and advances from this
round.
So, nathan, what is all thatmoaning and groaning over there.

Mike Gorday (26:35):
He just became Peter Boyle in Young
Frankenstein.

Nathan Mumm (26:37):
This is.
I don't know which one this is.
This may be the blended, thismay not be the blended, but this
is by far the best and you'vetasted the other one already I
did.
I tasted the other one and thenI fully drank the whole glass.

Ody (26:50):
Yeah, but is he going to remember that towards the end of
the show?
No, I'll still drink.

Nathan Mumm (26:54):
Yeah, absolutely.
This is by far the winner righthere.
There's no ands, ifs or butsabout it.
That's the winner.

Marc Gregoire (27:01):
Okay, yeah, alright.
Do you want another littlesplash?
Do you want another?

Nathan Mumm (27:05):
little splash, absolutely.

Marc Gregoire (27:05):
You have more of that?
Oh yeah, okay, all right.

Nathan Mumm (27:06):
There you go, thank you, yeah, drink up buttercup
All right, there you go.

Marc Gregoire (27:10):
We have to say some, just in case.

Nathan Mumm (27:11):
I got a bunch of family stuff that I'm doing this
evening, so you know what.

Mike Gorday (27:17):
I just will drink as much as possible, you need to
get lit.

Marc Gregoire (27:21):
There you go, there you to like and subscribe
all there out there.
Add a comment but, mostimportantly, unlike Nathan's
doing now, drink responsibly,because heaven can wait.

Nathan Mumm (27:35):
He just slammed it again.

Mike Gorday (27:37):
He just slammed it.

Nathan Mumm (27:38):
I know that was good.
That's so good.
Well, with our whiskey tastingcompleted, let's move on to our
feature segment.
Today we have Gwen Way joiningthe show.
She's an expert incybersecurity during the day and
a game board geek in theevenings, as well as a producer
of Tech Time Radio and ourGadgets and Gear gal.
Let's get ready to start ourComcast video stream the
favorite service of Odie andstart our segment Gadgets and

(28:02):
Gear.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
What's new in our Gadgets and Gear.

Nathan Mumm (28:07):
All right, Gwen, welcome to the show.
Tell everybody a little bitabout yourself for any new
listeners.

Gwen Way (28:13):
Well, I'm somebody who has been in the technology
space for about 25 years andfocus on cybersecurity.
As you said, it's a fun, funfield.

Nathan Mumm (28:24):
All right, there you go, Okay, well.

Marc Gregoire (28:26):
I'm glad that you're here.

Nathan Mumm (28:29):
All right, so now tell us a little bit.
Today we're going to be lookingat something that when we have
our production show so forpeople that have long-time
listeners will know this for newlisteners.
So as we do, is we do aproduction show, we do it on an
evening.
We go through all the storiesthat we have.
We kind of debate, we say thissubject works well, the subject
doesn't work well.

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We kind of pitch some of those.
Then, all of a sudden, nathan,we'll see something on feedly
and then he'll put it.
That is another story in there.
But regarding our gadgets andgear, this is probably the most
polarizing item that you've hadon for quite a while.
So explain to us what you haveand a little bit about this
device.

Gwen Way (29:10):
Certainly so.
The product that we have rightnow is actually a combination of
two products.
They're calling it Natura AI,that's N-A-T-U-R-A space AI, and
it is a set of earpods and anOS that allows you to interact

(29:30):
as you would with AI just usingearpods, so that you don't have
to be at your computer all thetime.

Nathan Mumm (29:39):
All right, so tell us how this works, tell us about
where you can find this onKickstarter, certainly.

Gwen Way (29:56):
So you can go to Kickstarterstarter search for
natura ai and basically how thisworks is you've got two little
air pod style things that go inyour ears.
You wear them throughout theday.
If you decide that you want tosearch for something or need
help coming up with words, youtap the pod twice to turn it on
and you ask your question.
Now it does lead to you know,talking to yourself in public,

(30:17):
so that's always fun.
But theoretically they'll beable to actually give you
feedback, provide you theanswers that you're looking for
or, you know, just kind of helpyou out, give you advice.

Nathan Mumm (30:31):
Okay, so.
So now you wear.
You wear this in your ear,right?
So the idea is, it's in bothears.

Mike Gorday (30:37):
You look like you're one of those morons that
walk around with a Bluetooth intheir ear and talking to
themselves, except you have two.

Nathan Mumm (30:44):
You do get two of these.
Now there are an open.
You look like Lobot from starwars.
Okay, now, hang on now.
So that it is open ear.
So that means you can hear.
So it's around the outside ofthe ear, so it doesn't cover the
whole ear.
So if me and you are having aconversation, mike, I can still
hear you, but I can then enablemy ai and't know why you're

(31:06):
trying to sell this to me.

Mike Gorday (31:07):
This is the dumbest thing ever.

Nathan Mumm (31:08):
No, no, no, Hang on , you can ask it questions.
Now here's the problem that Ihad, gwen, and you're going to
have to help me out here,because I tried.
I watched the video at leastsix times.
The poor guy that was trying todo like a TED talk on this
video, right, so kind of a badvideo, but whatever, he's
talking about this.
How do you interact with thedevice?

(31:29):
If I'm having a conversationwith Mike, do I say AI, do this?
Do I say AI, do that?
How would I interact and say,okay, mike, we're talking about
the Empire State Building and Iwant to sound really like a
smart aleck that knew everythingabout it where I can say AI,
tell me about the Empire StateBuilding.
How would I trigger that in ourconversations?

Gwen Way (31:51):
You actually tap on the earpiece twice to turn it on
.
Okay, so if you're having theconversation you can casually
Tap, tap.
No, I heard that the EmpireState Building is X feet tall
and then the AI will tell you inyour ear that's wrong, it's
actually y feet tall and you canprovide that information to

(32:13):
mike smoothly, theoretically oh,okay, so so I'm gonna go around
and bang my head on somethingand then be like the smartest
guy in the world because my aiis there well, well you didn't
get to the part where it's aboutai people okay, so yeah.

Nathan Mumm (32:27):
So let's talk a little bit about.

Mike Gorday (32:28):
Let's talk about this stupid thing.

Nathan Mumm (32:31):
Well, hang on.
So, first off, if you buy thisdevice and there's still early
birds available.
I looked at this morning.
It's interesting, though,because there's one price for
like the $99 price, point right,and then there's like $149
because there is a subscriptionthat you have to get no way
explain to me about.
You don't have to get thesubscription there is.

Gwen Way (32:53):
There is a free version, but that does have a
pared down uh number of thebenefits of the device okay and
commercials the best way is toact exactly there's no way it's
going to have commercials thatwould be awesome, wouldn't that
be awesome.

Mike Gorday (33:10):
Like hey how tall is the Empire State?
Well, I'll tell you that.
Just hang on.
We need to talk about build abetter life with Bryce Roney.

Nathan Mumm (33:19):
Better health, yeah , yeah, all right.
So there is a subscriptionservice, right?

Gwen Way (33:25):
So there is a subscription service, right,
there is a subscription servicethat gets you access to AI
people, which is kind of aninteresting tweak on things.
It basically createspersonalities, if you will, for
various things.

Nathan Mumm (33:41):
So explain that.

Gwen Way (33:42):
So you have the fitness trainer personality, you
have a business newspersonality and when you ask
questions related to thosethings, those personalities,
those ai people, if you will uh,pop up and they're the ones
that actually provide you knowwhat this is you know, what this
is.

Mike Gorday (33:59):
This is technological schizophrenia.
How would you say that you're?
You've got all these voices inyour head, right In your
technology that you'reinteracting with in public.
It's exactly the same thing.

Nathan Mumm (34:15):
So I don't think the AI peoples, because I was
looking at the AI peoples and sowhat it's trying to do is it's
trying to create a customized AIbot for you.
It's kind of what they'retrying to do.
So if you're into fitness,you're going to get the fitness
bot.
If you're into technology, youget the technology bot.
So there's many differentversions of this and you can hop
between one.
If I all of a sudden I feellike I want to be athletic, I

(34:36):
can go to the fitness one and Ithink then I can switch over to
the business one if needed.
I thought it was it was tryingto team for you.
It is.

Mike Gorday (34:52):
It is, yes, a team of people that will help you get
the best answers related toyour personality.
I will.
I will tell you if, if somebodycomes up to me and they're
wearing these double bluetooththings in their ear and they're
they're chatting away tothemselves and they want to talk
to me, I'm going to walk awayyou to.
No, because they don't need methere.
Oh, that's the problem herethey're having their own
conversations.
We're going to yeah, we'rereally pushing into Wally man.

(35:16):
We're really pushing into Wallyand this is a bad idea.
That's a bad idea.
It's a bad idea.
I think it's stupid.
I kind of like the idea, butpsychologically it's stupid.
I kind of like the idea.
Psychologically it's bad Really.

Nathan Mumm (35:27):
It's a bad idea.
So let's say, all of a sudden Ijust wanted to listen to some
history about baseball and I'min a meeting.
I got these big, huge things inmy ears and everybody thinks
I'm a dork.
To begin with, I could justlisten to all the stuff that's
going on and pay no attention towhat's going on at all.

Ody (35:40):
She described it as AirPods .
Airpods are not these big, hugethings.

Nathan Mumm (35:45):
Did you see them?
They're a little bit bigger.
They're a little bigger thanAirPods.

Mike Gorday (35:48):
They're the little Bluetooth things.
Yeah, they're a little bigger.

Nathan Mumm (35:50):
They're a little bit bigger than that.
All right, so tell me where youcan find out.
Where can you back this?
Where's the company located?
How many pledges let's get tothe Kickstarter?

Gwen Way (35:59):
effects, All the good numbers and stuff.
So you can find this onKickstarter Again.
Look for Natura AI N-A-T-U-R-Aspace.
Ai.
There are 720 backers currently.
It's going through September7th, so you still have plenty of

(36:22):
time If you want to investigateand figure everything out.
They are out of Wilmington,delaware, so it's another
US-based company, and they saythey're going to be able to get
everything up and running byfourth quarter.
So you might be able to getthese by Christmas.

Nathan Mumm (36:36):
Sure they will.
Nothing better than have likefour sets of these and we could
all be talking to our family andthen listening to different
voices.

Gwen Way (36:44):
And not actually talking to the family, because
you're talking to the voices.
Absolutely, gwen.
We have enough problems with no, I don't need.
And not actually talking to thefamily, because you're talking
to the voices.
Absolutely, gwen, you get it.

Mike Gorday (36:48):
We have enough problems with voices in our head
anyway, we don't need otherones.

Nathan Mumm (36:53):
Okay, well let me ask you the most important
question you need one that'scalled Jiminy Cricket Jiminy.
Cricket.

Mike Gorday (36:59):
Yeah, that's my conscience, yeah, you need one
that tells you when you're doingright or wrong.

Gwen Way (37:04):
Okay, all when you're doing right or wrong.
Ai people for conscience livingright here.

Nathan Mumm (37:07):
All right, Gwen are you?

Gwen Way (37:10):
going to get one of these units.
I'm still contemplating it, butI think I might.

Nathan Mumm (37:13):
Don't do it, it could be interesting.
It's $149 for the one-yearsubscription, right?
So I mean, holy crap, that's$149 for the device, plus you
get a year subscription of thenatural.
It's both os pro subscriptionand I don't know.
I'm kind of in, I kind of yeah,you would be.

Mike Gorday (37:32):
I kind of would be, because, you know, wouldn't
this be kind of cool?
No, no, I don't think it wouldbe cool to walk around with
things, sticking them out of myear and then talking to 50
different personalities thatI've created about everything I
want so you know what I reallywant.

Gwen Way (37:46):
That's right.

Mike Gorday (37:49):
We do it already and it's obnoxious.
I don't know how many timesI've been standing in line at a
store or something and somebodyis just yakking away.
I want a communicator from StarTrek.

Nathan Mumm (37:59):
Is that you?

Mike Gorday (38:01):
I totally want to just throw things at you.

Ody (38:06):
Hell.
No, my ears are too small forthe little earbud things.
Okay, so it would even stay in.
And two, I can't imagine thatworking every day okay, I, I
just want someone to create.

Nathan Mumm (38:20):
Can you imagine everybody walking?

Mike Gorday (38:21):
around with the this.
This is like a like a sciencefiction episode.
Yeah, like Black Mirror orsomething.
See, that's exactly what I wasthinking about.
Everybody's walking around withthese things going.
Can you tell me what's going onin Washington today?

Marc Gregoire (38:39):
And you're trying to tell me and you're like
tapping on your head.

Mike Gorday (38:42):
You know Like okay let's just.

Nathan Mumm (38:45):
There's just a lot of people doing this constantly,
Constantly tapping on the sideof your ear.
But okay, so this is what weneed to come up with.
Still, we need to come up withthe communicator device from
next generation, because I don'tknow how the heck in in
technology in the future.
When I click on that, it comesin crystal clear.
Okay.

Mike Gorday (39:05):
Crystal clear.
The computer always comes backcrystal clear, it translates, it
knows everything I'm trying tosay.
I have some bad news for you.
What's that?
It's Hollywood man.
That's fiction, what that's nota real thing.

Nathan Mumm (39:18):
It's in the name.
I think that's going to comeout.

Mike Gorday (39:21):
I think we're just a couple years away from that,
they're giving you something tomake you look like an idiot.

Ody (39:26):
All right, okay, well they don't have to work that out.

Nathan Mumm (39:30):
Be me up Scotty.
All right, quinn, thank you forcoming on the show.
It's always a pleasure to haveyou talk about gadgets and gear.
Thank you so much.

Mike Gorday (39:41):
You did this on purpose.
Thank you for having me.

Nathan Mumm (39:42):
All right, this was a purposeful thing, all right.
Well, we want to thank Gwen forbeing a part of the show.
She does a great job findingthe most unique items each month
for our show.
Alright, now let's move on toMike's Mesmerizing Moment.
Welcome to Mike's MesmerizingMoment.
What does Mike have to saytoday?

(40:03):
I can't get this out of my craw, mike.
Let's talk about story numberone the free version of
streaming.
Why do I feel like, as asociety, we're becoming more
accepting of paying monthlysubscriptions to watch TVs with
commercials?
It seems like just in fouryears we shifted from paying for
media and now we have totolerate advertisements.

Ody (40:24):
In what we're paying for Not to be that person.

Mike Gorday (40:26):
I think she wants to do this.
What's what you?

Ody (40:28):
already asked this before.
Well I have I?

Nathan Mumm (40:31):
this is, this is in my car, stuff that we and I can
tell you what he's gonna saywhat is he gonna say?

Ody (40:36):
because we are lazy humans and we prefer to pay for the
convenience of it even if it'sjust a facade this is all, yeah,
this is yeah, this is all, thisis all, this is all behavior
modification by the media, by,uh, the merchant class, if you
will.

Mike Gorday (40:56):
Okay, right, so here we're gonna say, oh, we're
gonna give you this.
They're like drug dealers, okay, there's a free sample, all
right.
And then you then you like, hey, I like this.
And they say, okay, well, youknow, we can't keep giving it to
you.
So we're, uh, we have to dosomething to make money.
So we're going to put ads in.
And you're like okay, I'll,I'll just do that.

(41:16):
And next thing, you know,they're like hey, you want to
get rid of these ads because weknow you hate them, just pay us
a monthly subscription service.
So we do that, okay.
And then it's the same thinglater on.
They're like and then laterthey just add the ads back, like

(41:37):
, hey, just throw those ads backin, there, we can have what we
can charge a higher price for noads.

Nathan Mumm (41:40):
You see what they're doing, so does it ever
come to a point where we stop?
No no, so soon we're going tobe paying hundreds of dollars
for more and more.

Mike Gorday (41:48):
Okay, all right, all right, mr sham.
Wow, yeah, do you remember latenight commercials?

Nathan Mumm (41:54):
I do remember they were so horrible infomercials I
used to.
I loved.
I loved watching them.
They were entertaining, right,but Do you remember late night
commercials?
I do remember late nightcommercials.
They were so horrible.

Mike Gorday (41:58):
Informaticals.

Nathan Mumm (41:58):
I loved watching them.
They were entertaining, rightthey were, but they were just
the dumbest things ever.

Mike Gorday (42:03):
They had these people that were having these
mock surprises and it was justcrazy and they would talk for
hours.

Nathan Mumm (42:08):
Plus we got more and add this and they would talk
for hours right.

Mike Gorday (42:17):
I used to sit there and wonder why the heck do
these things keep?
Coming on at night.
Why are these here?
Yeah, because people buy that.
Yeah, people will buy it.
So as long as people are doingit, they're going to keep making
it happen.
So we live in a society wherewe're not super conscious of
what we're doing anymore.
Okay, and these companies areusing psychological techniques

(42:43):
in order to keep you buyingtheir product.
They're trying to keep youaddicted, because if you're
addicted, you're not going to goaway, so they're like crack
dealers.
Yeah, it is very, very similarto uh like breaking bad.

Nathan Mumm (42:57):
This is just breaking bad episodes over and
over, that is why facebook andinstagram and tiktok are so
popular?

Mike Gorday (43:06):
because they have addictive qualities that
nobody's aware of when theystart using it.
And suddenly you're.

Nathan Mumm (43:13):
You're sitting there for hours on end scrolling
through videos my wife is doingthat now a lot as she gets
older.

Mike Gorday (43:19):
She dream scrolls for like hours yeah, see that
it's an addiction and theaddiction exists because we are
medicating something also yougotta remember about the whole
keeping up with the joneses yeah, aspect of it fomo, you're
missing out.
Fear of missing out.
You know when it's time, youguys.
When is it?

Ody (43:38):
time.
I think it's called the bluepill.

Nathan Mumm (43:40):
Is it the blue pill in the Matrix?

Ody (43:42):
Disconnect from everything, is it?

Nathan Mumm (43:45):
the blue pill, yeah , the red pill gets you.

Mike Gorday (43:48):
The red pill wakes you up.

Ody (43:49):
The blue pill puts you back to sleep.

Nathan Mumm (43:51):
That's right.
Yeah, there we go.

Mike Gorday (43:56):
Thank you, Mike, for that mesmerizing moment.
Yeah, I don't think it was thatmesmerizing and out of all the
stuff that we had to chat about,this was the worst.
That's why I selected it.

Nathan Mumm (44:01):
Okay, all right Up next, we have this Week in
Technology, so now would be agreat time to enjoy a little
whiskey on the side, as we willbe doing so during the break.
Anthemum see you in a fewminutes.

Mike Gorday (44:12):
Hey, Mike.

Nathan Mumm (44:13):
Yeah, what's up, hey, so you know what.

Mike Gorday (44:18):
We need people to start liking our social media
page If you like our show, ifyou really like us we could use
your support on Patreoncom.
Is it Patreon?
I think it's Patreon.
Okay, patreon, if you reallylike us, you can like us in.

Nathan Mumm (44:29):
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Speaker 1 (45:17):
That's that simple and now let's look back at this
week in technology all right,we're going back to august 7th
1944.

Nathan Mumm (45:32):
ibm presents harvard with the mark
sequence-controlled calculator,the ASCC, an electrical
mechanical computer devised byHoward H Aiken and built by IBM.
Harvard renamed the ASCC to theHarvard Mark I.
The Mark I was the firstlarge-scale digital calculator
ever built and served to sparkthe desire for more and better

(45:55):
computing machines ever builtand served to spark the desire
for more and better computingmachines.
One of the first programs to berun on the Mark I was initiated
on the 29th of March 1944 byJohn Van Neumann.
At that time, neumann wasworking on the Manhattan Project
and needed to determine whetherimplosion was a viable choice
to detonate the atomic bomb.
Although not the first workingcomputer, the machine was one of

(46:16):
the first to automate andexecute complex calculations,
making it a significant stepforward for computing.

Mike Gorday (46:24):
Now we have AI people talking in our ears.

Nathan Mumm (46:28):
That was this week in technology.
If you ever wanted to watchsome Tech Time history, with
over 260 weekly broadcastsspanning our five plus years of
of video podcast bloginformation, you can visit us at
techtimeradiocom to watch ourother shows.
We're going to take acommercial break.
When we return we have Mark'sMumble Whiskey Review.
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more.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
The segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's
Whiskey Mumble.

Nathan Mumm (47:21):
All right.

Marc Gregoire (47:23):
Celebrating today , August 5th, and I sincerely,
sincerely hope we are allcelebrating what today is.

Mike Gorday (47:33):
What are we celebrating?

Marc Gregoire (47:33):
today, mark.
Today is National Underwear Day.
Oh, uh-oh.

Nathan Mumm (47:40):
Uh-oh, are you serious Not?

Mike Gorday (47:43):
even Nobody wants to know that, Nathan.

Marc Gregoire (47:47):
Okay, continue on , mark.
For National Underwear Day, letus briefly tell you why we love
underwear.
Okay, it keeps us from jigglingin public by covering our
unmentionables.
Did you know?
Underwear appears in nearlyevery culture in the world, and
for us now?
It comes in all colors, sizesand fabrics.
So I'll salute our underweartoday.

Mike Gorday (48:09):
Did you have a mother that always said did you
have clean underwear on, just incase you get into an accident?

Marc Gregoire (48:13):
Oh, absolutely yeah, and my grandmother always
bought me underwear forChristmas.
You never heard that.
Well, you're young.

Nathan Mumm (48:19):
That was a big.

Mike Gorday (48:19):
Thing.
That was a big.

Nathan Mumm (48:20):
Thing for us In case you had an accident,
because if you didn't haveunderwear on and you had an
accident If you had dirtyunderwear on.

Mike Gorday (48:25):
That was the biggest thing for mom.
That all right.
Of course, if you got into ahorrible accident, mangled
yourself probably would probablywouldn't have to worry about
what your underwear okay, so onnational underwear day, yeah, it

(48:46):
only makes sense mark justcontinues like nothing happened
just now.

Marc Gregoire (48:50):
We follow it with a tasteful showdown.
Okay, barrel found versuschicken cock.
Oh, or as we like to call itfound cock.

Mike Gorday (49:00):
Okay.

Marc Gregoire (49:01):
Let us see which one rises to the occasion.

Mike Gorday (49:03):
I'm not.
I'm not sure what's happeningright now.

Nathan Mumm (49:06):
Underwear day we're talking about?

Mike Gorday (49:09):
we're talking about underwear and chicken cock.

Marc Gregoire (49:14):
Well, okay.
So the two that we are drinkingtoday, mike, yes, one of them
is the Chicken Cock KentuckyStraight Bourbon.
This is from Grain and BarrelSpirits.
It's distilled in BardstownBourbon Company.
It is straight whiskey, non-agestated, and there's nothing on

(49:35):
the label.
So we've learned earlier todaythat must be at least four years
old.
Okay, it is 90 proof and 60dollars, all right.
The other one is barrelfoundation from barrel craft
spirits.
It's a blend of straightbourbons from kentucky, indiana,
tennessee and maryland.
Oh, it is five to nine yearsold.
In the blend it's 100 proof andit is also 60.

Mike Gorday (49:56):
Okay, oh, so same price points same price point,
that means, that means thatmeans that means nathan is gonna
have a trouble figuring outwhich one to get.

Nathan Mumm (50:06):
No, no, no, I absolutely knew it from the very
first drink right here.

Marc Gregoire (50:10):
This is, this is my, this is my winner oh, okay,
and Mike, is this your order ofwinner two no, no, actually
that's just how I drank them,okay, okay.

Nathan Mumm (50:20):
Uh-oh, oh, stay tuned.
Okay, if we can't come to aresolution, then Mark's going to
get to choose.

Marc Gregoire (50:27):
I haven't even tasted them yet today, because I
thought you guys maybe would bedeciding on the same one.
Uh-oh.

Nathan Mumm (50:44):
Maybe same one?
Oh, maybe we're not.
Well, you know what?

Mike Gorday (50:45):
whiskey and technology are such a great
pairing.
Okay, like milk underwear andwell, no accidents like milk and
oreo cookies you just have todunk for that much you know.
You know I never after theafter the talk about uh,
underwear.
This is not a good place Ialready had it written up.

Nathan Mumm (50:53):
I had no idea, mark was doing underwear, stuff why?

Mike Gorday (50:56):
not August 5th is National.

Nathan Mumm (50:59):
Underwear Day, what else would I do?
Does that mean I'm notcelebrating it?
You're definitely celebratingit.

Marc Gregoire (51:05):
Nobody wants to know about your personal hygiene
habits.
Mike's got to go a littlecloser to you All right, okay.

Mike Gorday (51:11):
No, I'm moving away from you.
I'm putting social distancing.

Nathan Mumm (51:17):
All right.
Well, let's prepare now for ourtechnology fail of the week,
kind of like your underwear inan accident.
Congratulations, You're afailure.

Speaker 8 (51:24):
Oh, I failed.
Did I, yes, did I.

Nathan Mumm (51:28):
Yes, alright, our technology fail comes to us from
Amazon.
Amazon CEO, andy Jassy says Ishe getting?
Rid of freebie?
Well, that would be many of thedifferent things.
No, this has to do with theircompany's new AI-powered digital
assistant, the Alexa Plus.
Oh no, Plus plus, plus, plus,plus.
So it was Alexa, Another plus.

(51:48):
Now it's Alexa Plus, he saidduring Amazon's second quarter
earnings call last week.
People are excited about thedevices that they can buy from
us that have Alexa Plus enabled.
Too bad, 90% of it doesn't workyet.
But people do a lot of shoppingwith Alexa Plus, so their
programming is so far behind ontheir AI that they have not
gotten all the features thatthey promised to even have for

(52:10):
this device.
But good old CEO is out theresaying this is the best thing
since sliced bread.
Now he's delighted to give.
The shopping experience isgoing to be better.
He says on this think over timethat you have opportunities as
people engage more and more withconversations on Alexa Plus.
It will start advertising andplay a role to help people find,

(52:32):
discover and drive new revenuefor Amazon, the company.
So the more you talk to thisdevice, the more it's going to
know what you like.
So then, in the middle of yoursentence, it's going to be like
the Truman Show.
Well, it's going to be like.
It's going to be like Wife 101.
This is what it's got to be.
You're going to have aconversation and all of a sudden
it'll interrupt and say we needto go buy this.

Marc Gregoire (52:51):
And I'll be.
What the heck are you talkingabout?
Interrupting sounds more likeman 101.

Nathan Mumm (52:55):
Oh man 101.
Okay, remember man 101.

Mike Gorday (52:59):
Whichever way, you want to say it in any
conversation, you're going toget in trouble.
Who me?
Yeah, you are.
Oh, okay, sorry, you just saidsomething bad All right.

Nathan Mumm (53:06):
Alexa Plus is Amazon's answer to the
generative AI voice assistant.
It's going to compete with openai, not really google, nope or
perplexity, and none of those dothey have to worry about this
device that amazon is rollingout.
But amazon is making it freefor prime customers who pay
14.99 a month.
So if you're just a primecustomer, you get me and do I

(53:28):
have.
So I have that that means youwill get uh that.
But if you wanted to upgrade,you could add a $20 a month
subscription tier for Alexa Plusto have it on its own.
So you could pay to have an AIsuggest to buy you stuff for $20
a month if you don't have aPrime subscription.

Mike Gorday (53:47):
You know what my Alexa already does this?

Nathan Mumm (53:50):
It does.
My Alexa just comes on in themiddle of nowhere and says, hey,
I was looking on Amazon and Ifound something you might like,
like batteries, or your batteryon this is low, so you should
probably replace it with theseDuracell batteries and then if
you have it on pause, then itdoes videos now on the screen.
You notice that the videos thatI have up there.

Mike Gorday (54:07):
I don't have one of those.
So who's this guy?

Nathan Mumm (54:09):
Jassy, he's the CEO , okay Jassy shut the F up.
Okay, shut the f up.
Okay, well, up until now theads only appeared in alexa in
limited ways, but users havethis.
Is they say?
Amazon thinks users want to seemore ads?

Mike Gorday (54:24):
no, no, we don't we don't want to see more ads the
last thing I want the last thingI want to do is have, uh, ask
alexa a question and have herfollow up with some sort of ad
for some tchotchke that I don'twant or need.
Every time she comes on tosuggest something, I tell her to
shut up because I don't want it.

Nathan Mumm (54:44):
I'm telling Jassy shut up.
Jassy says that they are goingto continue to work out bugs
because right now the Alexa Plushas hallucinations and will
suggest things that don't evenmake sense.
So you could be like let's say,you're a person that doesn't
wear underwear and all of asudden it comes up and pops up
and says I think you might needto talk to your therapist about
that buddy.
An underwear ad and you'd belike, what the heck?

(55:05):
This is not even anything Iwould do.

Mike Gorday (55:07):
Okay, so, nathan, that sounds to me like something
that you need.

Nathan Mumm (55:12):
I need an Alexa.

Mike Gorday (55:13):
Plus, no, you need Alexa telling you to get
underwear, okay, so if that'syour example, it was a bad
example.

Marc Gregoire (55:22):
So the segment is brought to you by Hanes,
America's choice for underwear.

Nathan Mumm (55:25):
Thanks, man On sale now.
Yeah, I don't know who this is.
That's going to be my ear.
I'm going to double tap thatand that's the first thing
that's going to come out of myAI and my ear from Gwen.
Now, jassy seems enthusiasticabout making advertising a large

(55:46):
part of Amazon business.
Amazon advertising revenue wentup 22% in the second quarter
compared to the same period lastyear, so he's all in and
providing you more ads to sellmore items on Amazon.

Marc Gregoire (55:55):
Unfortunately, it's because they were, not
because people want them, Ithink.

Mike Gorday (56:00):
Stephen Colbert should tell him what to do.
What would Stephen Colbert say?
You don't know what the wholeStephen Colbert controversy is.

Nathan Mumm (56:09):
No, explain that to me, Mike.
This is better off air.

Mike Gorday (56:14):
Okay all right he should tell Jesse what he should
do with himself.

Nathan Mumm (56:17):
Okay, Well you know what we're going to head now.
Are we going to go to that?
No, we're not going to go tocommercial.
We're going to go right now tothe Nathan Nugget.
Let's go to the Nathan Nugget.
No Well, I didn't do a NathanNugget last week.
Come on, Nathan Nugget.
Better watch Hit Nathan NuggetOwee Go, go, go.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
This is your Nugget of the Week.

Nathan Mumm (56:37):
Thank you, All right we have.
Windows 11 is rolling out 14new features that I couldn't get
to last week, so I got them onthis week.
Now Do we have time for this?
Yes, Windows 11, Copilot VisionAI-powered vision mode in
Copilot scans your desktop andeven opens Windows.

Mike Gorday (56:53):
This is the most irritating thing ever.
Yes, all right.
I had a word document open andmy co-pilot kept trying to
rewrite it.
Take my yeah, yes, I'm like getoff this okay so that's making
my stuff better.

Nathan Mumm (57:09):
Windows 11 these are new.
These are new features.
I'm just getting too old.
Ai settings agent, naturallanguage assistant.
Inside the settings you can nowsay stuff like connect
Bluetooth or make cursor larger,and copilot will automatically
take over and make your cursorlarger.

Mike Gorday (57:25):
So when you were writing that you should have
asked for a larger cursor orcopilot, make Nathan wear
underwear.

Nathan Mumm (57:31):
Or it relights in photos.
Now there's three virtualsettings for cinematic glow
studio portrait and you canadjust your photos.
Now.
This has been going on withfilters for the last like 20
years, but now you can do it inWindows.
So congratulations, windows.

Mike Gorday (57:46):
You're coming up to the plate there.
I'm going to go right home andstart using all these features,
objects, select and paintAI-based tool to identify and
isolate background objects, andsticker generator and paint.

Nathan Mumm (58:01):
Now there's been other applications that done all
this a color picker, quickmachine recovery, black screen
of death.
We talked about reading coach,co-pilot during word mike's
favorite thing you can draftdocuments directly by hitting
co-pilot to do the work and manyother items, including you can
now do your team meetings inyour bnw cars.
If you pull over to the side ofthe road and you want to have a
team's meeting, you couldactually still stay on your
team's meeting in your caritself.

Mike Gorday (58:21):
That makes me feel so productive right now.
All right, there you go, okay.

Nathan Mumm (58:26):
Well, let's head to our.

Speaker 8 (58:26):
Go ahead.

Nathan Mumm (58:28):
Odie, I see it I see you playing with that board
over there, all right, let's nowmove to our pick of the day
whiskey tastings.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings
.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop.

Marc Gregoire (58:43):
Ooh, that music just wakes me up.
All right, there you go.

Nathan Mumm (58:47):
You didn't like all the features, the coffee wakes
me up.
All right, here we go.
This is my fave All right, youare the Glen.
Karen, it's not the chickencock that has to be the blended,
because I'm a blended type ofguy.

Mike Gorday (58:58):
That's not the blended, I think.
So, yeah, mike, which one didyou choose?
Uh, you know, I'm going to gowith the chicken cock which is
in which?
Which glass?
Which is this got to be thisone?

Marc Gregoire (59:09):
oh, oh wow, oh, no right, mike, just mike just
disappeared.
Both were correct.
And what was in your glasses?

Nathan Mumm (59:16):
Okay, really.

Marc Gregoire (59:17):
The beer glass was the chicken cock and the
Glencairn was the barrelfoundation.
They were both very good.
They were, I do agree.
I tried them both while youguys were talking, and I did
enjoy them both, which?

Speaker 8 (59:29):
is your favorite.

Nathan Mumm (59:34):
I think, this one was a little bit more robust
than this one.
I thought this would add asmoother flavor.

Marc Gregoire (59:36):
That's what I got , too.
Mike and I was going to go,because I've always chosen with
Mike so far.
However, I was just thinkinglong-term.
If it's both on my shelf, whatam I going to continually reach
for?
And it would be the barrelfoundation.

Nathan Mumm (59:50):
Oh, look at that Winner.
Winner chicken dinner.
I had to get a chicken dinner.

Mike Gorday (59:54):
Winner winner chicken cock dinner.

Nathan Mumm (59:57):
Okay, all right.
Well, you know what we're aboutout of time.
We know what we want to thankour listeners.
We're about out of time.
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What's that I'm interruptingwith the commercial?
Oh, he's doing.

Mike Gorday (01:00:21):
Alexa stuff he's doing.
Alexa stuff.
Alexa plus Jassy.
Look he's doing it and we hateit.

Nathan Mumm (01:00:26):
I'm tapping my ear.
Nothing's going away.
It still keeps on saying thesame thing.
Remember the science oftomorrow starts with the
technology of today.

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