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Sick in action, sia.
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Welcome everyone.
Let's start today's show.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Now on today's show.
Nathan Mumm (01:51):
All right.
Today on the show show, we haveour letter segment.
This is our funny yetinformative reading of emails
that I received and weresubmitted to me during the week.
This includes scams, phishingemails, texting scams and
all-out mistruths.
In addition to that, we haveour standard features, including
mike's mesmerizing moment, ourtechnology fail fail of the week
, a possible Nathan Nuggetabsolutely a Nathan Nugget today
and, of course, our pick of theday whiskey tasting to see if
our selected whiskey pick getszero, one or two thumbs up by
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the end of the show.
But now it's time for thelatest headlines in the world of
technology.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Here are our top
technology stories of the week.
Nathan Mumm (02:22):
All right, Mike,
here is what we got.
Our first story Hundreds ofthousands of Grok chats exposed
in Google results.
Let's go to Lisa Walker formore on the story.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Hundreds of thousands
of user conversations with Elon
Musk's artificial intelligenceAI chatbot, grok, have been
exposed to the world.
These unique links are createdwhen Grok users press a button
to share a transcript of theirconversation, but as well as
sharing the chat with theintended recipient, the button
also appears to have made thechats searchable online.
A Google search on Thursday oflast week revealed it had
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indexed nearly 300,000 Grokconversations.
Earlier this year, meta alsofaced criticism after shared
users' conversations with itschatbot.
Meta AI appeared in a publicDiscover feed on its app.
Should people think that theirAI chats are private, back to
you guys in the studio.
Nathan Mumm (03:16):
All right, mike,
let's talk about this.
Should your AI chats be privatethat are out there?
I absolutely think they shouldbe, but this is kind of getting
into a dilemma.
The internet that we're so usedto is free, right, so we're all
used to getting everything forfree how is it free?
Mike Gorday (03:32):
I pay for it.
Nathan Mumm (03:33):
Well, you pay for
your internet connective
services to comcast, right, yeah, okay, or whatever provider.
But as far as the actual use oftools and services on the
internet take, for instance,like facebook and google, search
and other aspects, of it.
Mike Gorday (03:48):
We all know they're
not free.
We all know that we're payingour information to those okay
okay, so.
Nathan Mumm (03:54):
So we should be
okay with that.
So if we all of a sudden get anannouncement that grok, I don't
know if we should be okay withthat, but you know, that's the
way it is okay, so, so, okay,well, so privacy is a disaster
right now.
If you went and took a look atsome of the leaked transcripts
from Grok, which kind of makessense on any of these social
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media AI platforms an example ofit was a chatbot that detailed
instructions on how to make aclass a drug in a lab, uh talked
about how to uh create securepassword, provide meal plans for
weight loss and answer detailedquestions about medical
conditions.
We're all part of the breachthat happens.
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My question that I keep onpondering back and forth is
experts say, once yourinformation is linked on line,
it's there forever, which we'vealways talked about.
Once it's been in online format, there's going to be somebody
that made a backup of a backup,of a backup.
So absolutely it's going to bethere.
But is our technology now atthe point where we have a data
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breach?
We no longer care about what'shappening?
That's kind of my question andanswer, because now these AI
breaches happen all the timethere's no penalty, so we've
been doing this show for howlong now?
This is our seventh season, sowe're going on year six.
Mike Gorday (05:12):
Okay.
So we have how many databreaches that we talk about?
We talk about data breachesalmost every week, every week,
yes, okay.
So when you say people justdon't listen anymore, that's
probably true because we foundout the data breaches are
happening all the time, okay,and there's nothing we can do
about it.
It's a service that we'vebecome to depend on, so probably
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for most people it's just sortof the uh well, uh, I still have
to use the internet, so if theygot all my privacy and
information, that's not going tomatter until, of course,
somebody steals their identityand ruins their financial life.
Nathan Mumm (05:53):
Have you heard
about this new thing that's
happening?
Are coming on in and they'regoing and forging documents and
they're taking out loans ondifferent aspects of that house
that was already purchased.
We're getting to a point nowwhere the cyber crimes are
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coming at people that are evendone and don't have any debt
that's available out there.
Mike Gorday (06:19):
Yeah Well, you know
, we have created something in
our human ingenuity that wecannot control, nor do we
understand.
So that's just going to be,that's just going to continue to
happen.
Ody (06:32):
OK.
Mike Gorday (06:33):
Yeah, that's,
that's.
And you know it's always fun tostart off the start off the
show with talking about AI,because that's my favorite
subject.
Nathan Mumm (06:40):
Is it your favorite
subject?
Yeah, all right.
Well, guess what?
Let's talk about story numbertwo.
This is your story, mike, Ithink you're gonna love this.
Yeah, I'm gonna love this onebecause guess what?
What are we gonna be talkingabout?
A?
Mike Gorday (06:51):
little.
More ai stuff, more ai stuff,yep, yep.
A senior lawyer in australiahas apologized to a judge for
filing submissions in a murdercase that included fake quotes
and non-existent case judgmentsgenerated by ai.
Oh boy, oh boy.
So the blunder in the supremecourt of victoria state is
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another one in the litany ofmishaps ai has caused in justice
systems around the world.
Defense lawyer rishi nathwani,who holds the prestigious legal
title of king's Counsel, tookfull responsibility quote for
filing incorrect information andsubmissions in the case of a
teenager charged with murder,according to court documents
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seen by the Associated Press onFriday.
We are deeply sorry andembarrassed for what occurred.
Nathwani told Justice JamesElliott on Wednesday on behalf
of the defense team.
The AI-generated errors causeda 24-hour delay in resolving a
case that Elliott had hoped toconclude on Wednesday.
Elliott ruled on Thursday thatNathwani's client, who cannot be
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identified because he's a minor, was not guilty of murder
because of mental impairment.
At the risk of understatement,the manner in which these events
have unfolded is unsatisfactory, he told lawyers.
The ability of the court to relyon the accuracy of submissions
made by counsel is fundamentalto the due administration of
justice.
The fake submissions includedfabricated quotes from a speech
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to the state legislature andnon-existent case citations
purportedly from the SupremeCourt of Australia.
The errors were discovered byElliott's associates who
couldn't find the cases andrequested that the defense
lawyer provide copies.
The lawyers then admitted thecitations did not exist and that
the submission containedfictitious quotes, and then they
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checked that the initialcitations were accurate and
wrongly assumed the others wouldalso be correct.
The submissions were also sentto the prosecutor, who didn't
check their accuracy either.
Okay, so let's talk about that.
Nathan Mumm (08:55):
So you had the
defense and and the prosecuting
have ai generated, quotessubmitted and both of them are
too lazy or too busy or tooburdened to actually verify that
those quotes were valid.
Mike Gorday (09:10):
Okay, so it's a
part of our brain.
Yeah, so our brain works on asystem called heurism, which
means that it finds the quickestanswer that it can to do what
it needs to do.
Okay the quickest answer that itcan to do what it needs to do.
Okay, so if you have somethingthat's generated a ai generated
stuff, yeah and you look and yousee one of the quotes is
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correct, the likelihood thatyou're going to check all the
quotes becomes non-existencebecause the piece of your brain
goes oh look, it's right.
And we always also have thisproblem with if it's written, we
sort of believe it okay so yeahall right, so both of them.
Nathan Mumm (09:49):
So both of them
failed, so it wasn't like one.
So the one created the aigenerated information.
Well, this and.
And then pass it on to theprosecutor, who looked at it and
said, okay, well, it looksvalid too.
So they, they both took thosedocuments to court and both had
them in their process of beingcorrect.
Mike Gorday (10:10):
Yeah, they did.
What people do and this is theproblem with using AI is it's
not necessarily the AI Okay,well, it is, because the AI
generates the false information,but it's the human interaction
with the AI that makes it sodangerous.
This is why I have a hugeproblem with this, because not
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only are we creating the AI todo these things and we can't
anticipate what the AI will do,because we're not that smart,
yep, then we come along andinterpret the data in the way we
interpret it and then we basedecisions on that data, which is
showing over and over and overagain that it can be false.
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And because we don't think tocheck on these things, we are
making decisions that these arelife-changing decisions for a
murder case right.
Yeah, if they had not found thisout, what would have been the
decision on this kid who was notguilty by reason of mental
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deficiency?
Nathan Mumm (11:18):
I don't know.
I guess you'd go back to courtagain and say, hey, this
information was I don't know.
Mike Gorday (11:22):
Well, if it wasn't
found out, he might have been
convicted.
He might have been stuck intothat system where he was wrongly
, wrongly convicted.
Yep, so you know, I don't know.
I I think you give me thesestories just so you can.
You can hear me betch about itI don't know.
Nathan Mumm (11:38):
That's all right,
it's okay.
Well, because I I did younotice that I like how they said
, the court documents did notidentify the AI system used by
the lawyer.
So now what's happening is AIsystems are like you know what
if you use our system and it?
Mike Gorday (11:51):
comes up
incorrectly, don't say yes.
It's like shh, don't tell them.
I told you that that's right.
The secret knock.
The secret AI AI Well you couldGoogle Grok and see if you can
come up with the chats.
Nathan Mumm (12:10):
So what happens is,
let me just tell you, Grok is
kind of interesting becauseChatGPT is my go-to right and I
like Sam Altman and I likeOpenAI as the company, so that's
kind of my fave.
Mike Gorday (12:20):
Not a reason to
like.
Nathan Mumm (12:21):
AI buddy.
Mike Gorday (12:22):
Well, not a reason.
Nathan Mumm (12:23):
Let me just tell
you this but grok is coming up
in the world.
They're actually getting prettygood in their ai stuff.
So having these issues come onout makes sense and I can see
how do you how do you?
Mike Gorday (12:34):
okay, so this is
just a question for you how do
you rate them?
How do you make thatdetermination that something is
getting good?
Uh, how is?
How are you?
How are you?
Because?
Nathan Mumm (12:45):
all these instances
, user activity is increasing.
Mike Gorday (12:49):
Oh okay, Because
user activity is increasing,
that means it's getting better.
Nathan Mumm (12:53):
Well, so it's
getting more use.
Maybe I should say I don't knowif it's getting better, but
it's becoming more sought afterand used than it started out as
yeah bad idea, folks Okay.
All right.
Well, guess what?
Aol's beep.
You know, what that sound is.
That's a modem I think that'syou having a digestive problem.
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That's a modem.
That's the sound of the beepsand the boops of AOL's dial-up
internet service.
Say buh-bye to the mode.
And that's the sound of thebeeps and the boops of AOL's
dial-up internet service.
Say buh-bye to the beeps andboops, as AOL's dial-up service
is about to end.
Mike Gorday (13:31):
Is the dial-up
service ending, or just the
noise?
Nathan Mumm (13:33):
No, no, no the
dial-up service dial-up for AOL
will cease to operate September30th of this year.
Mike Gorday (13:41):
I did not know that
AOL still had dial-up service.
Nathan Mumm (13:44):
They did.
Aol routinely evaluates itsproducts.
This is what they said.
It's been running since the1990s, right, trying to connect
to the internet has been okay,so routinely is every 20 years,
is that?
Mike Gorday (13:54):
was that routinely
is every 20 years.
Nathan Mumm (13:57):
I don't know.
I mean, come on.
Aol routinely evaluates itsproducts and services.
Decided discontinued dial-upinternet the website.
The website said the servicewill end september 30th.
What is Decided to discontinuedial-up internet?
The website said the servicewill end September 30th.
What is dial-up?
What is dial-up?
Dial-up uses a modem to convertdigital data from a computer
into analog signals which cantravel over standard phone lines
.
Users have to plug theircomputer into a phone jack and
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install software that allows thecomputer and dial-up service to
communicate.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Why are you acting
like this is a surprise.
Was that Because it phone jackand install software that allows
the computer and dial up?
Nathan Mumm (14:25):
service to
communicate.
Was that Because it is for thenew generation?
They probably had no idea whatthat was.
Mike Gorday (14:30):
Well, all right.
Nathan Mumm (14:32):
The new process
resulted in robotics, noise, as
I tried to do, and then all of asudden you would have service
Now.
Aol rolled out its dial-upservice in 1989, when lawmakers
were focusing on closing thedigital divide, the idea that
people living in poorer or morerural areas would not be able to
access the internet.
Mccray said the company wasknown for handing out discs and
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CDs that gave users severalhours of internet access for
free.
Mike Gorday (15:01):
Yeah, we got so
many of them.
We used to make things out ofthem.
Nathan Mumm (15:04):
Yeah, so back in
the old times, your phone
service was considered anecessity and free because you
would get that from yourlandline service.
And then you would pay 19 amonth to have access to the
internet through one of theseisps, uh, internet service
provider.
Now, what's interesting is, asof 2022, an American's household
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survey from the Census Bureausaid that 0.1% of American
households relied on dial-up toaccess the internet.
That's a pretty small figure,don't you think?
Mike Gorday (15:44):
Yeah, it is pretty
small.
Nathan Mumm (15:46):
So the solution is
that you need to go to a
satellite if you live out in thethat's one-tenth of one percent
, I think.
That's what it is, thank you.
We have now removed the wholedial-up internet service.
You will now need to get asatellite service.
You got Starlink or HughesNetor whatever other services are
out there that you now need tograb.
Mike Gorday (16:08):
I feel like I need
to look for Rod Serling in the
corner smoking a cigarette Overfor wasn't he the?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Twilight Zone guy.
Twilight Zone guy.
Yeah, okay, that's right Allright.
Nathan Mumm (16:18):
Well, that ends our
top technology stories of the
week.
Now we're going to move intoour next segment with dives into
our letter segment featuring onscam submitted by listeners.
Some studio selected emails.
Mike's putting on his hat.
Mike, what does that hat say?
Don't click on stuff, stuff.
All right, be sure to listenand share the segment with a
friend.
We're going to head out for ourfirst commercial break.
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Nathan Mumm (17:31):
Welcome back to
Tech Time with Nathan Mumm.
Our weekly show covers the toptechnology subjects without a
political agenda.
We verify the facts and we doit with a sense of humor, in
less than 60 minutes and, ofcourse, with a little whiskey on
the side.
Today, mark Gregoire, whiskeyconnoisseur, is not in the
studio.
He actually came into thestudio, dropped off some stuff.
He's not feeling well, looked alittle under the weather.
Mike Gorday (17:50):
Yeah, he came
around and spread all his germs
all over the place.
Ody (17:54):
He was masked.
Mike Gorday (17:55):
He was masked.
He was masked.
You didn't see him over therebehind you, taking this mask off
and blowing at the back of yourhead.
Nathan Mumm (18:00):
Did you, Okay.
So since our whiskeyconnoisseur is not in here, that
means always Odie fills in soshe can give us the information
on what we are sipping today.
Odie, what do we got?
Ody (18:12):
Well, today we're drinking
the Remus Straight Bourbon
Whiskey single barrel.
The intro is from the bottledirectly.
Take a sip back in time toexperience the roaring 20s,
inspired by the finest bourbonof the Prohibition era.
Each Remus single barrel holdsa collection of unique flavor
secrets.
Add it to your speakeasy orliquor shelf and discover the
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secrets for yourself.
This particular barrel washand-selected by Lee QFC,
renton's liquor manager, inhonor of his late father Vic.
A meaningful tribute and abottle that carries both history
and heart.
That was pretty sweet.
Nathan Mumm (18:53):
That was pretty
sweet Shout out to Lee at QFC.
Now, is this a single barrel ora small batch?
She already said it like twice.
Ody (19:00):
I know, I'm just trying to.
Nathan Mumm (19:02):
It's a single
barrel.
Ody (19:03):
Yes, Okay, single barrel
Okay it's from the Luxco MGP
Company.
Nathan Mumm (19:07):
Okay.
Ody (19:08):
Distillation is Ross and
Squibb Distillery in
Lawrenceburg, indiana.
Classified as a straightbourbon Aged six years has 59%
or no 118 proof.
Nathan Mumm (19:23):
Okay.
Ody (19:23):
Mash bill of 51% corn, 49%
rye Goes for 56 bucks on the
market.
Nathan Mumm (19:30):
All right, yeah, 56
bucks on the market.
I had a big first kick on that,yeah your face.
Mike Gorday (19:38):
Yeah, we watched
you do the Nathan dance over
here.
Is that the Nathan dance?
Ody (19:41):
I didn't consider that the
Nathan dance.
I'd consider that the Nathanshake.
Mike Gorday (19:45):
The Nathan shake
yeah.
Nathan Mumm (19:49):
I have many
different classifications.
The shake the dance.
Okay, All right.
Well we're going to come upwith something even better than
that.
You know what you should duringthe commercial break.
You should actually get a sipof this yourself, too.
Ody (20:00):
Okay.
Nathan Mumm (20:00):
I'm curious on what
your take is going to be on
this.
Ody (20:02):
Well, I'm probably going to
do my own version of the shake
as well.
I'm not a big rye gal.
Nathan Mumm (20:08):
Okay, well, you got
to give this a shot.
What did?
Ody (20:10):
you think of it, I like it.
I was going to say I think Mikewould like it, so you're going
to have to be the tiebreaker,because I think it's going to be
pretty full-bodied.
Nathan Mumm (20:19):
It is Full-bodied,
luxury.
Taste, look, taste.
Mike's becoming a connoisseurhere.
Mike Gorday (20:25):
You know what?
That's right.
I am compared to you.
That is absolutely correct.
You just make weird faces andthen go, it's got a bird.
Nathan Mumm (20:36):
It's got a bird,
alright.
Ody (20:39):
Well, please do not forget
to like and subscribe.
Drink responsibly, becauseheaven can wait.
Nathan Mumm (20:45):
There we go.
Thank you so much, odie slashMark.
All right.
Well, with our whiskey tastingcompleted, let's move on to our
feature segment.
Today, we bring back the funnyyet informative reading of
emails that I received duringthe week.
This includes scam, phishingemails, text scams and all-out
mistruths disguised aslegitimate emails in a segment
we call Letters Letters we getletters.
Mike Gorday (21:08):
We get back back
back those letters All letters,
we get letters and the lettersall have fun.
Nathan Mumm (21:18):
All right, we
always start with Odie.
Odie, you are up first.
What do you have in that letterarea?
That's a shorter one, but thereare some tricky things to this,
so let's talk about that.
Ody (21:27):
It's all about keeping it
short and sweet.
Nathan Mumm (21:29):
Okay, you know, I
like that.
Ody (21:30):
I have a very fun letter
from Sam Cook.
Nathan Mumm (21:33):
Sam Cook okay 667
at Outlookcom.
Oh boy, mm-hmm Sam, so itdoesn't even have his name on
the email address.
Huh.
Ody (21:41):
What do you mean?
Nathan Mumm (21:42):
Oh is that, sam
Cook, and then the numbers.
Yeah.
Ody (21:44):
Sam Cook 667 at Outlook 667
, okay.
Man, you need to open up yourlistening ears, man.
Mike Gorday (21:50):
She's too busy
trying to figure out what this
liquor tastes like.
Ody (21:55):
The subject line says only
price question mark.
Nathan Mumm (21:58):
Oh.
Ody (21:59):
And then you ready for this
?
Okay, it says hi, I found thatyour website isn't doing well
and has errors in Google searchresults.
We can place your website onGoogle's first page.
May I send a SEO proposal andof price.
Thank you.
Nathan Mumm (22:16):
And a price.
Ody (22:17):
No and of price and of
price Question mark.
Nathan Mumm (22:20):
And of price
question mark.
Yes, oh boy.
Ody (22:22):
You know what?
I think he's pretty trustworthyyou think he's pretty yeah.
So, what happens if I reach outto Sam Cook 667?
At Javiercom.
Mike Gorday (22:34):
He's giving his
personal email.
He might want to get married orsomething.
Ody (22:38):
For price.
Nathan Mumm (22:40):
For price For price
.
So I'm sure what he would do ishe would send you over a
brochure.
So as much as this isn't like aphishing attempt they're not
trying to get anything.
This is kind of a solicitedscam.
Ody (22:51):
No, they're trying to get.
What do you mean?
They're not trying to getanything, they're trying to get
money.
Mike Gorday (22:55):
They're trying to
sell you an SEO package.
Nathan Mumm (22:57):
They're going to
come on over with an SEO package
based on one of their probablyproviders that they have
overseas.
It'll be a generic SEO and theidea of this is to establish a
relationship with you so that assoon as you have that trust
relationship, the next thinghe's going to ask for is he's
going to ask to do an audit ofyour website, and the only way
to do an audit of your websiteis to give him login credentials
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and admin credentials to yourwebsite, and once you do that,
you're pretty much in the wildwild west and he can keep that
password Even if you change itafterwards.
He can load in spyware,software, add-ins, depending on
what your website is.
So anybody that you get asolicited email for that says
they can help out with your SEO.
I'm sure there's probably oneor two of the 100 that you get
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in your email box that arelegitimate, but most of these
are going to be scams.
Most of them are just trying toget access to your website and
then, once they get access toyour website, boom, they can do
more malicious items after that.
Ody (23:56):
So let me get this straight
.
Nathan Mumm (23:57):
They can fire Riot,
they could.
Ody (23:58):
If I do not know this
person.
Nathan Mumm (24:01):
I shouldn't respond
you probably shouldn't If I did
it if I'm not looking for anSEO proposal and price.
Ody (24:08):
I shouldn't respond.
Nathan Mumm (24:08):
You should not
respond to that.
Ody (24:10):
He opened up with a high.
It's no personal message ornothing.
Nathan Mumm (24:14):
No, it's just high.
Mike Gorday (24:19):
And a couple
misspelled words in the price
question mark.
Are you?
Nathan Mumm (24:21):
on a ShamWow
commercial.
Ody (24:22):
I'm just making sure you
don't click on stuff.
Okay, all right, I don't knowany stuff okay, All right Okay.
Nathan Mumm (24:27):
I don't know any
Sam Cooke.
Ody (24:28):
Therefore, I will you know
immediately trash spam.
Nathan Mumm (24:31):
There you go, good
girl, okay, you know what?
That's why she does not getcompromised.
See, odie is the safest of allpeople.
I don't know no.
Mike Gorday (24:41):
I don't know about
that, because I'm the one that's
sitting here that says I neverlook at emails anyway.
Okay, all right.
And he's got the hat he doeshave the hat and I do have the
hat.
Nathan Mumm (24:49):
All right.
Well, we're next up to you.
This is going to be aninteresting one here.
I think this one's pretty cool.
Okay, this one's very creative.
Mike Gorday (24:56):
It's from Emily
Grace EmilyGrace7412 at gmail.
I feel like this is sort of adating setup.
Yeah, wow, emily, all right.
Well, no, it's Emily.
And then you got Sam.
Yeah, yeah, see, look at us.
Yeah, he's trying to play.
You can just hook them up withdifferent email addresses.
Nathan Mumm (25:15):
He's trying to play
Dr Date.
Mike Gorday (25:18):
There you go.
Okay, so it's two, nathan mom.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Okay, and the?
Nathan Mumm (25:22):
okay, and the
subject line is just justin
worth a look and then it goes hi, justin forgot who the name of
the person is.
Darn it that that script didn'twork okay should we reveal who
justin is?
Uh, I don't even.
I think that's actually just arandom.
Mike Gorday (25:39):
I don't even think
that they realize you don't know
, you don't think this is howeasy would it to be to find out
that you have a relative namedJustin?
Nathan Mumm (25:47):
Oh, it's just
Justin and Peyton are my kids'
names, so yeah.
Mike Gorday (25:51):
So I'll just put it
out there, that's okay.
So how do you think is random?
Nathan Mumm (25:54):
Well, do you think
the Hi Justin?
So you think somewhere in hisdatabase he's got Justin mom on
his database too.
Mike Gorday (26:01):
Is Justin listed in
your papers anywhere?
Not really, no, okay, so Idon't know.
I don't know.
Nathan Mumm (26:08):
I think it was just
a it is coinkydental, it is no,
I see what you're saying.
I hear you Okay.
Mike Gorday (26:12):
Anyway, the
opening's really good.
If I could, I'd have sent acarrier pigeon instead of this
email.
Why?
Because at least then you'dremember the message and
probably take a photo forInstagram before reading whether
we're a software company pitch.
Here's the real point.
We help fast moving teams likeblah blah, blah, blah, blah,
(26:33):
blah, blah, blah.
Worst case you get a few solidideas, best case, you get a
partner.
Should we swap 10 minutes thisweek to see if there's a fit
birds optional?
Oh, send it to my calendar.
Yes, I'll keep my pigeonsgrounded.
No, my best, emily grace.
Nathan Mumm (26:52):
Growth executive
driving measurable impact you
don't really know where emilygrace's uh company is don't want
these emails unsub.
Ody (26:59):
I don't know justin, she
sounds pretty trustworthy you
think so, yeah, so guess whathappens so we get the
unsubscribe link.
Nathan Mumm (27:06):
So I tried clicking
on this link right.
So unsubscribe link sent me toa naughty site with ai stuff.
So the unsubscribe.
Are you sure you clicked the?
Mike Gorday (27:20):
right link buddy I
did.
Nathan Mumm (27:22):
I I clicked it
twice just to make sure that
that was the case.
Mike Gorday (27:24):
Okay, so so both
times it came out of the same
thing.
Is that like an electronicdouble take?
Nathan Mumm (27:32):
I don't know if the
scam is to kind of get you to
hit the unsubscribe.
You go to the unsubscribe andyou're like oh, wow, okay, and
then all of a sudden you sign upfor whatever services in the
unsubscribe is I couldn't quiteget if that's what the whole gig
was.
So it's unsubscribe is I.
I couldn't quite get if that'swhat the whole gig was.
Normally the unsubscriber saysput in your uh email and you
type in your email.
Sometimes they ask her forpasswords to have that taken
(27:52):
care of.
Ody (27:53):
So it was very interesting
on on what actually happened I
mean I would argue that there'stwo like scams in there one was
is the unsubscribe thing, andtwo is the whole like hey, we
should meet up sometime.
And if you respond to them,they know that you're a real
live person.
And they said do another BSthing what is Mike?
Nathan Mumm (28:14):
Mike's going to
town here, what's he looking at?
He's trying to click on thelink to no no.
Mike Gorday (28:19):
I'm not trying to
click on it.
Look on the link what I'm doing.
What I'm doing is what don'tget me started about my email.
Ody (28:27):
What I'm doing is what?
Mike Gorday (28:28):
Don't get me
started about my email.
I hate my email.
I think the funny thing here isthey use unsub to do the trick
and you know unsub has aforensic a forensic thing
attached to it.
Ody (28:44):
I watch Criminal Minds.
I know what's up.
Mike Gorday (28:46):
What is it?
Unknown Subject.
Oh it's on Sub.
Nathan Mumm (28:51):
Is that what?
Mike Gorday (28:51):
it means.
Nathan Mumm (28:53):
Criminal Minds.
That's the worst show ever.
Oh, come on, that is so fake.
They're AI.
Mike Gorday (29:02):
It is still.
It is still an FBI term.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Is it Unsub?
Okay, all right, okay.
Nathan Mumm (29:10):
Nothing is better
than taking a picture of that
license plate and zooming on inand getting all the details.
If you can zoom in that good onthe license plate, why don't
you just?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
zoom in on the
freaking window and find out
what the person looks like.
Ody (29:21):
Anyway, come on, if you got
the picture just zoom in and
find it Criminal Minds Flanders.
Yeah, Most of that stuff isjust Hollywood crap.
Nathan Mumm (29:32):
This one was a
really cool email, very creative
, very creative.
You like that one.
Mike Gorday (29:41):
I think you should
write Emily directly at her
Gmail account and maybeintroduce her to Sam Cooke.
Okay there you go.
Nathan Mumm (29:45):
The next thing I
have here is I have two emails
coming in almost so almostimmediately after each other.
Now, if you'd only decide to dothis and maybe do it from one
day to another day, you'd be ingood shape.
When you decided to send thesame exact email, you almost got
me here.
So the ledger because I have aledger device, that's what I use
for all my cryptocurrency itsays we were contacting you
(30:06):
today following a recentincident with the affected
portion of the ledger's user'saccount on August 16th 2025.
Our security team identifiedunauthorized access to a
database containing informationsuch as email addresses and
phone numbers.
We need you to go in and typein your recovery phrase here so
they can reissue you a newrecovery phrase.
(30:28):
And you know what.
They may have gotten me, butthey sent the same exact one,
the following one's at 2.10 amand the other one's at 2.11 am,
and this one says that they hada security breach on June 25th
2022.
So the first email I get, allright, so I get this at 210.
It says that they had asecurity breach on August 16th
(30:50):
At 2011,.
I get one that says that theyhad a security breach on June
12th.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
At 2-11 in the
morning, 2-11 am.
Nathan Mumm (30:59):
Sorry, 2-11 am and
this one says that.
So the 210 says they had abreach on August 16th.
The 211 email says that theyhad a breach on June 25th 2022.
Well, that makes sense, so theyhad two breaches.
Mike Gorday (31:13):
Two breaches, two
emails.
Nathan Mumm (31:15):
Oh, okay, okay.
And all I have to do is type inhere with a big button that
says secure, my recovery phrase.
This process is simple.
Security takes less than twominutes.
So I have to type in mysecurity phrase for my ledger
and then they would reissue me abrand new security face can I
ask you that ledger thing thatyou're talking about?
Ody (31:35):
yeah, I see that on the
email it has a ledger pick.
Yeah, is that similar to the?
Nathan Mumm (31:42):
yeah, that is
exactly their logo, okay, okay,
so that's exactly, so they did apretty good job here of making
this.
Somewhat legit, except for theyprobably shouldn't be sending
it from info at clearioapp, soprobably you'd want to send it
from ledgercom, maybe.
Mike Gorday (31:59):
Did you click on
stuff, so I actually I did alert
me.
Nathan Mumm (32:03):
I got very close to
clicking on it, but I did not
click on it.
Mike Gorday (32:07):
Do you know what's
interesting?
Did you try to check it out onyour virus machine?
Nathan Mumm (32:12):
No, because the
information was just not good
enough for me to move.
I did not even try it on that.
But I will tell you this.
I was off on vacation a littlebit, or family stuff.
Yes, we know I had somebody.
Let me ask you this.
I had somebody call me and saythat they were from the police
department and that I failed toshow up to a court-ordered event
(32:38):
.
I did, and you know what?
I almost fell for it.
The person spoke good English,there was no call center in the
background, and I'm like well,explain this to me.
He's like well, it looks likewe have a signature here that we
dropped off something for youon a Wednesday and blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah.
It looks like your signature.
And I go well, I would neverhave been home on a Wednesday to
(32:59):
sign for anything, so thatdoesn't make any sense.
And I started continuouslyquestioning.
Very, very, very good scam hadme almost worried.
I started going online to seeif I had maybe some type of
court appearance let me, let mejump in here and tell you jump
in mike, yeah, the police do notcall you to tell you you've
(33:20):
missed a court date, that's youdon't get court reminders.
Mike Gorday (33:23):
Yes, you get
letters in the mail that says
you have to appear on this dateat this time and if you don't,
you get issued a bench warrant.
Yes, and then they come andfind you.
Nathan Mumm (33:35):
So they started
with this, saying it was a bench
warrant.
They said this was the benchwarrant and they were contacting
me.
Mike Gorday (33:40):
Nobody tells you
you have a bench warrant.
Usually there's so much stuffgoing on that the police just
find out you have a benchwarrant when you get pulled over
for a car speeding ticket orsomething and they go hi you
have a bench warrant, we'retaking you in right now.
The police do not alert youwhen you have a bench warrant.
Nathan Mumm (34:00):
Okay, has that
happened to you before?
You seem to have a lot of infoon this.
Even I know about that.
Ody (34:12):
Okay, I did not know, man.
My education right, and that'sexactly what they're banking on.
Nathan Mumm (34:14):
I know and all you
don't know, and that you give in
and like so I.
I was kind of just then.
All of a sudden, my wife mywife looks at me and says what
the heck are you talking about?
I said, well, I got a benchwhere she's like hang up on that
person.
It's a freaking scam.
Ody (34:24):
Wow and so.
Nathan Mum.
Nathan Mumm (34:26):
I almost got taken
to town by an actual phone call.
Mike Gorday (34:32):
The phone scams are
getting a little bit more
difficult.
That was not even a legitimatephone call.
Nathan Mumm (34:36):
I know.
Mike Gorday (34:38):
If you were getting
scammed by that.
You need to take a look in themirror, buddy, or stop drinking.
Nathan Mumm (34:44):
Stop drinking, all
right, okay.
Well, that ends our lettersegment.
Now we're going to move on tomike's mesmerizing moment.
Welcome to mike's mesmerizingmoment.
What does mike have to saytoday?
All right, mike, here's.
It's a little bit of a longerquestion.
Should we move to apay-per-usage model to have our
(35:07):
internet usage private?
So let me ask you that what Ifyou have your internet usage
private?
Because we pay for connectionservices right now through a
provider that you pay formonthly?
But should you use softwarelike Facebook and Instagram?
Should there be a charge foryour privacy to ensure that it
doesn't get compromised, andwould you pay for that?
(35:29):
So Facebook gets compromisedall the time.
Instagram gets compromised Allthese things get compromised,
would?
Mike Gorday (35:36):
you pay a service.
Is this about paying Facebookto use Facebook?
Nathan Mumm (35:40):
Well, would you pay
Facebook to use Facebook if
they guaranteed it was secureand they would not release any
of that information?
Mike Gorday (35:45):
Okay, first off,
nobody can guarantee this,
because we talk about this crapall the time.
Ok, we talk about peoplehacking into city systems and
and school systems andeducational systems.
Facebook cannot come around andbe like hey, if you pay us
money, we'll guarantee you we'llnever lose your privacy to
hackers.
That's BS.
Nathan Mumm (36:04):
OK, that's that's
very valid.
Mike Gorday (36:05):
You're right, right
, okay, and then pay per usage
model, like if I get on theinternet, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
get, I'm gonna pay on some sortof well, you're currently paying
to get a check.
Nathan Mumm (36:18):
Yeah, yeah, well,
you currently pay to get a check
box in in instagram or verifiedwith facebook?
Mike Gorday (36:26):
is this related
only to social media?
Nathan Mumm (36:29):
That's the question
that I just asked for Just
social media.
Mike Gorday (36:32):
No, in fact I'm
going to go one step further and
say stop using the freakingsocial media altogether, because
the benefits do not outweighthe problems, the problems
outweigh the benefits.
Nathan Mumm (36:44):
How do you connect
with your friends on social
media, though I don't.
Ody (36:49):
You don't.
Did you not hear his?
Mike Gorday (36:50):
email I did, I did,
I did Emily.
Ody (36:52):
Yeah, carrier pigeons, man,
carrier pigeons.
Is that what we need to move to?
Mike Gorday (36:58):
If I hang out with
my friends, do you think I
connect with them on Facebook?
I?
Nathan Mumm (37:03):
connect to some
people on my Facebook accounts.
Yes, facebook, I connect tosome people on my Facebook
accounts.
Yes, okay, so do you, odie?
Is that?
Yeah?
If yeah, so if I Instagram someof your friends, here's the
deal.
Mike Gorday (37:13):
Here's the deal.
Like okay, this is, and this iswhat Facebook has given us all
as some sort of panacea toeverything.
Okay, I have a friend who Ihaven't seen in 10 years.
He hits me up on Facebook.
He sees my profile.
He's like hey, I haven't seenyou for a while.
How are you?
Okay, that is the whole.
Reach out and touch someone ofthe 2000s.
Nathan Mumm (37:35):
AT&T commercial.
Yeah, yeah.
Mike Gorday (37:37):
Right, and that's
what Facebook is based all their
crap on.
Right, okay, and that's nice.
It's nice that my friend canhit me up on Facebook and be
(38:10):
like, hey, how are you doing?
But that doesn't justify allthe crap that I have to do on
Facebook or I have available toprojecting the perfect lifestyle
.
Yeah, you know I don't.
Ody (38:13):
What you're basically
saying is that the average
person is not disciplined enoughto just go on, answer the
message and get off yeah, yeah,but that's the way this stuff is
.
Mike Gorday (38:24):
This stuff is not
designed for you to connect with
people.
This stuff is designed so youstay on the platform and give
them information.
You know and you give theminformation every time you like
something.
You give them information everytime you respond to an ad.
I don't know what that was.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
That was God
acknowledging my existence.
Mike Gorday (38:46):
right there Is that
what that was?
That was God acknowledging myexistence.
Right there.
Is that what that was?
That's right.
He's like yep, right, turn itall off.
Nathan Mumm (38:52):
Okay, all right,
that was everything.
Kept on running, though, sothat was a weird thing.
Maybe that was just the lights.
Somebody flicked the lights.
Mike Gorday (39:01):
Maybe we're going
through.
Do you have backup?
Nathan Mumm (39:02):
batteries.
I do have backup batteries.
Mike Gorday (39:04):
Maybe that's what
it was.
Okay, there you go See, butyeah, no, I don't think we
should make a pay-per-usage,maybe make a pay, I don't know.
Nathan Mumm (39:16):
You don't know.
Mike Gorday (39:19):
I think that's
ridiculous to pay for services
like Facebook and things likethat, but then again, I think
Facebook is ridiculous.
Nathan Mumm (39:26):
So Okay, all right,
okay, well, that's your
mesmerizing moment, then.
So, you would not pay to haveyour privacy guaranteed to be
secure.
They can't guarantee my privacy.
Mike Gorday (39:38):
That's a false
claim.
That's exactly like a snake oil.
Thosman, here I'm going to sellyou this little thing full of
olive oil and it's going to cureall your ills.
I guarantee it.
Nathan Mumm (39:49):
And then you travel
around the United States.
Mike Gorday (39:51):
That's right, I'm
going to travel around my fake
meta virtual store site sellingmy snake oil to everybody.
Nathan Mumm (40:00):
There we go, All
right.
Well, Mike, thanks for thatmesmerizing moment.
Up next we have this Week inTechnology.
Well, wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
What?
Mike Gorday (40:07):
Would you pay to
have somebody say they would
guarantee?
Nathan Mumm (40:12):
It's not Nathan's
nugget.
Mike Gorday (40:13):
No, that's a fair
question.
Would you pay?
Nathan Mumm (40:17):
per usage.
I would if they gave me aguarantee that my privacy
wouldn't be.
Mike Gorday (40:21):
But how can you
even?
Nathan Mumm (40:23):
Well, there are
some cyber, there are some cyber
companies out there.
They get cyber securityinsurance for where they
guarantee if you're on theirplatform.
If they get breached, they willgive you up to a million
dollars in cash compensation forthe breach.
Mike Gorday (40:38):
Oh, okay, so you
can see you would do it because
you have a financial incentiveto.
Nathan Mumm (40:45):
So if they did get
yeah, so if there was some type
of backing, this is okay.
If you pay for Facebook service, we guarantee you won't be
breached.
And if you are breached, hereyou go, we're going to give you
X amount of money.
Then, absolutely, you know what?
I think I'd be all over doingthat.
But if there is no financialincentive.
Mike Gorday (41:02):
If they actually
get compromised, then no because
all it is is just smoking beers.
It sounds a little like sellingyour soul.
Nathan Mumm (41:08):
Does it yeah?
Maybe, I watch too much Cuphead.
Mike Gorday (41:11):
It sounds a little
like that Too much.
Cuphead, this I'll pay as longas you guarantee me that if ever
I lose my information, you giveme a million dollars.
Nathan Mumm (41:22):
Yeah, sure.
Well, I have to tell you aboutthinking, as we have a warranty
on our refrigerator, ourrefrigerator went out.
We got up to 70 degrees.
Mike Gorday (41:30):
Anyway.
Nathan Mumm (41:30):
Okay, continue on.
Mike Gorday (41:32):
Thanks for that.
I'm not sure how that hasanything to do with anything.
Nathan Mumm (41:34):
It doesn't either.
It just popped in my head.
Mike Gorday (41:36):
Let's go talk to
your refrigerator.
Nathan Mumm (41:38):
Mike.
I'm not sure how that hasanything to do with anything.
It doesn't either.
It just popped in my head.
Let's go talk to yourrefrigerator.
Mike, thanks for the bestrising moment.
Get Sam Cook to talk about yourrefrigerator.
We have this week in technology,so now would be a great time to
enjoy a little whiskey on theside, as we're going to be doing
so.
During the break, you'relistening to Tech Time Radio
with Nathan Mums.
See you in a few minutes, heyMike.
So you know what.
We need people to start likingour social media pages If you
like our show, if you reallylike us we could use your
(42:00):
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Mike Gorday (42:03):
I think it's
Patreon.
Okay, patreon.
If you really like us, you canlike us in patreoncom, I butcher
the English language.
Nathan Mumm (42:11):
You know you
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the time it's patreoncom.
Patreoncom.
Mike Gorday (42:16):
If you really like
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Yeah, we're on Facebook too.
Yeah, like us on Facebook.
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Nathan Mumm (42:54):
That's it.
That's it, it's that simple.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
And now let's look
back at this week in technology.
Nathan Mumm (43:03):
All right, we're
going back to August 26, 1938.
The first use of a taperecorder on the radio.
Now, radio station WQXR in NewYork City broadcast a program
using a tape recorder.
For the first time the taperecorder used was the Phillips
Miller's recording system, alsoknown as Miller tape, invented
(43:24):
by James Arthur Miller.
By the later 1940s Miller hadalso become involved in
phonograph recording, pressing,consulting with the Langworth
Transcription Company to produceeight-inch discs and
prototyping discs made withsmall tabletop presses.
Miller did pass away on October12, 1971 at the age of 80.
(43:45):
So let's talk about this, theidea of radio shows.
Until 1938, all of that used tobe live.
Every single thing about thatwas live.
And now I would say most of theradio stations and we'll ask od
here just a little bit how muchof the programming is live
(44:07):
versus recorded on the radio man.
Ody (44:10):
Nobody wants to know what's
behind the curtain, okay okay,
well, let's talk.
Nathan Mumm (44:14):
Okay, a little bit,
would you say.
Would you say more than 50percent is pre-recorded?
This is important.
So I think it's.
I would say it's about 70 to 80percent, I think, is
pre-recorded, recorded stuff,and then I only think about 20
is should I bring up theelephant in the room.
No, no, okay uh all right, whatdo you think?
(44:34):
C.
Ody (44:35):
I'll say you know what I'm
going to take into public radio.
I'll say at least 60% isprerecorded 60% is prerecorded.
And that's being very nice withmy numbers.
Nathan Mumm (44:47):
That's being very
nice with their numbers.
So she's saying that shedoesn't get in trouble for the
station she works for.
I get you, I get you, I get you, I get you.
So just think of this.
Before 1938, everything had tobe done live.
And then all of a sudden thisguy creates, and it's, a
recording system on a record.
It's not even like a tapeplayer per se, that you see.
It's a three-layer recording ona record that is used to then
(45:10):
go through this process to tapeit?
Mike Gorday (45:13):
When did we start
using radio?
When did we?
Nathan Mumm (45:17):
start using radio.
When did we start using radio?
Yeah, um I don't know when didwe use?
1900s.
1900s is a radio.
When the radio started, I don'tknow I don't know.
Mike Gorday (45:26):
You have a google.
You have a google ai over there.
Nathan Mumm (45:29):
I'll chat gpt that
in a second.
All right, there you go.
So miller was the inventor.
This dude was like really intohow to transcribe onto vinyl
discs.
So there you go, look them up.
You'll have a great timelearning about the Phyllis
Miller recording system.
(45:49):
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waiting all week for Mark'sWhiskey Mumble.
Nathan Mumm (46:43):
Alright.
Ody (46:46):
I gotta turn on my own mic.
You gotta turn on your micthere.
Anyway, you guys want to knowwhat we're celebrating today.
Nathan Mumm (46:52):
What are we
celebrating today?
Ody (46:53):
On August 26th.
Nathan Mumm (46:55):
Yes.
Ody (46:56):
National Webmistress Day.
Webmistress Day On August 26thyes, national Web Mistress Day.
Nathan Mumm (46:59):
Web Mistress Day
Web.
Ody (47:00):
Mistress Day Okay.
Nathan Mumm (47:03):
Web Mistress Day.
Ody (47:03):
Mike, you can at least try
to act excited.
Mike Gorday (47:07):
Surprised.
He's excited.
Why am I need to be excitedabout this?
Ody (47:11):
Because today we're
celebrating the invisible heroes
who make and maintain thewebsites we all depend on.
Nathan Mumm (47:18):
Okay.
Ody (47:19):
A web mistress is a woman
who designs, develops, markets
or manages websites.
The operators who keepeverything running behind the
scenes.
Wow, that I should not havetaken that.
Mike Gorday (47:32):
That shot of
whiskey.
Huh, you know, moving thatglass further away is not going
to take away anything.
Ody (47:37):
It just shout out to Tech
Time time zone web mistress
christina petri, who keeps uslooking sharp online.
Okay, do you?
I don't know this christinapetri is the name.
Nathan Mumm (47:49):
She actually was
the one that helped create the
website.
Ody (47:51):
Christina, there you go and
now for a stretch here.
Here mark out Just like a webmistress quietly keeping the
internet flowing.
Behind the scenes, george Remuskept Prohibition running
smoothly illegally.
He was the ultimate operator.
Mike Gorday (48:08):
This is like a
Nathan link.
Nathan Mumm (48:11):
This is fantastic.
Mike Gorday (48:12):
No, no, no, this is
not fantastic, he's been around
for so long because he did itillegally.
Nathan Mumm (48:16):
I love this.
Ody (48:17):
He was the ultimate
operator behind the curtain.
In fact, even when serving timein prison, Remus was given
trustee privileges, so much sothat he once helped deputy
sheriffs chase down an escapinginmate while still being their
prisoner.
Mike Gorday (48:35):
Yes.
Ody (48:35):
So he was a good prisoner,
that's a trustee.
Nathan Mumm (48:38):
So he was probably
paying the cops off.
Even back then in the day Say,hey, just take care of me here
and I'll bring you some whiskey.
Mike Gorday (48:44):
He got them all
whiskey.
Nathan Mumm (48:45):
That's right.
Ody (48:46):
Anyway, today's pour comes
with a fairly unique mash bill
that just barely makes the legalcut for bourbon.
51% corn and 49% rye Two grainsonly, no barley.
That's almost a 50-50 split,given that it has an edge.
Sweet notes from the corn,balanced against a bold wall of
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rye spice Think caramel andvanilla on the nose, but the
palate is all clove, pepper andcitrus zest, with a dry,
lingering finish.
Yeah, that's what's screwing meover, right now.
Nathan Mumm (49:18):
Is that the dry
lingering finish?
Mike Gorday (49:19):
The pepper.
Ody (49:20):
The pepper.
Okay, for me this is simply adelicious dram, one I could sip
on all night and have.
Oh, boy.
Nathan Mumm (49:29):
All right Lodi.
So that was Mark.
Mark loves this whiskey, yeah.
Ody (49:36):
I had to sit through it,
okay, whiskey yeah, I had to sit
through it.
Okay, I'm not hating on it.
Okay, it's just messing with mythroat a little bit.
Nathan Mumm (49:41):
Just messing with
your throat, okay.
Ody (49:42):
Because of the lovely clove
, pepper and citrus zest.
Nathan Mumm (49:47):
I can taste that
pepper.
Would you pay 50 bucks for this?
Ody (49:50):
No, I'm happy with it being
free.
Nathan Mumm (49:53):
Okay.
You're not even happy with itbeing free, are you no?
It being free okay.
You're not even happy with itbeing free, are you no?
Okay, all right, okay, well,there you go, all right well,
well od and mark whiskingtechnology are such a great
pairing I'm not really feelingthe effects of that right now
like mickey mouse and donaldduck and that is going to tie
into the nathan nugget.
(50:14):
So that is a lead and tease forthe Nathan Nugget.
Mike Gorday (50:19):
Everybody's on the
edge of their seats, buddy, Are
they Alright?
Nathan Mumm (50:22):
let's prepare for
our technology fail of the week,
brought to you by EliteExecutive Services.
Congratulations, you're afailure.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
Oh, I failed.
Did I yes, did I yes.
Nathan Mumm (50:35):
Alright.
Today's technology fail comesto us from the kidney dialysis
firm DaVita.
Now the kidney dialysis firmDaVita has confirmed that a
ransomware gang that breachedthis network stole the personal
and health information of nearly2.7 million individuals.
See what am I telling you see,what am I?
(51:03):
What did I?
What am I telling you?
Uh, the venus service is over265 000 patients across 300 or
3113 outpatient denial dialysisdialysis centers.
Uh, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
So tons against 13 othercountries worldwide.
So this is blah.
So tons against 13 othercountries worldwide.
So this is in the United Statesand 13 other countries
worldwide.
This is like the IBM ofcomputers.
(51:24):
This is like the Apple ofphones.
I mean, this is like the big.
The Vita is the firm for kidneydialysis.
Well, guess what?
The attackers gained access tothe system on March 24th and
were removed from the systemafter the company detected them
on April 12th.
So you got March 24th to April12th.
So they were in there for agood two and a half weeks
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without anybody knowing.
Well, inside his systems, thethreat actors stole data from
DeVita's lab database, whichincludes a combination of
personal information includingname, address, date of birth,
social security number, healthinsurance related and health
condition treatment information,dialysis lab test results
information, and stoleninformation Also included tax
(52:06):
identification numbers and, insome cases, image of personal
checks.
Wow.
Mike Gorday (52:12):
So essentially,
Okay, nathan, I'm meta and I'm
going to tell you that I'mguaranteeing that your privacy
will be you will be maintained.
If you pay me $18 a month, $18a month, you're going to take
that.
I would take that, but you knowwhat?
Nathan Mumm (52:27):
What's going to
happen to DaVita, who had to
make this announcement lastThursday?
So this is the stuff that justkills me.
So our data has been breachedsince March 24th.
That is now in August 26thAugust 26th.
I now have information that'sbeen publicly posted about this.
So until that time I did notknow, if I was in this company,
(52:50):
that this happened and I couldhave had checks that were being
bounced against credit fraud.
That could have been happening.
All of that, um, they didreport to the Department of
Health Office for Civil Rights.
The OCR updated its breachportal confirming that they
reported that 2,689,000 peoplehad their data stolen in the
incident.
Wow, when we return, we'regoing to head out.
(53:14):
That's it.
Huh yeah.
Mike Gorday (53:15):
We're like yeah,
well sucks to be there.
Let's go on to the next thingwell, what do you do about that?
Nathan Mumm (53:21):
I mean, that's just
horrible, right I.
Mike Gorday (53:23):
I think we should,
you know, have meta guarantee
that we'll always have ourprivacy.
Nathan Mumm (53:28):
We pay them okay,
you know what we're not gonna.
We're not gonna actually go toa commercial break, we're gonna
just go right now into thenathan nugget this is your
nugget of the week, all right?
You know what?
You can visit Disneyland andCalifornia Adventure Park all in
one day.
That's right.
I was at the park celebratingbeing an empty nester.
(53:49):
Both my kids are married.
I'm done with that.
So the wife and I decided totake a trip down to Disney
California Adventure to see whatwe could have, and disneyland
and guess what.
I spent most of my time in thefirst couple days trying to
figure out a hack, and by thelast day there I was able to get
through both disneyland andcalifornia adventure park all in
(54:10):
one day.
Mike Gorday (54:10):
Wait a second, wait
a second.
You were there for three days.
We were there for five daystotal.
No, no, no, no.
You said you were there for twodays trying to figure out a
hack yeah is this before youwent to the?
Nathan Mumm (54:20):
parks, uh, no, no,
no, so at the parks themselves.
Mike Gorday (54:23):
So I I have a weird
, so you were hanging out at the
park for three days, and thenit was the last day that you
figured out well.
Nathan Mumm (54:30):
so the whole time
I'm at the park I'm trying to
figure out how can I jerry-rigthis to get more rides, how can
I I jury rig this to be theultimate?
I am not enjoying my eventbeing there.
I'm not enjoying being therewith people I got to spend time,
man you were early, so I amjust thinking about how can I
hack the system.
And I figured it out.
Here's what we got.
Your slip is showing, buddy.
Oh, is that?
I am going to tell everybodywhat we can do here to get the
(54:55):
rides.
Most important part is you haveto have the lightning lane.
What's that Okay?
Speaker 2 (55:01):
We got to have that
lightning lane.
Nathan Mumm (55:03):
You have to have
that for your park entry.
Now here's the secret you wantto book rides at the park that
are breaking down.
This sounds absolutely crazy.
Why in the world would you wantto schedule rides that are
broken down?
But there's a hack in thesystem, so we get there the last
day where we're going to go onspace mountain.
Space mountain is notorious inDisneyland for breaking down and
(55:24):
not being open in the firsthour.
If you book a pawn entry intothe park a ride on a space
mountain, and it breaks down,guess what happens?
They give you an unlimited, afast pass or a lightning lane
pass to any ride in any park, soyou can go over to California
Adventure Very important.
Now let's say the park is downfor a ride for an hour Every 15
(55:49):
minutes.
You can re-sign up to use thelightning lane to get another
pass.
So Space Mountain was down foran hour Every 15 minutes.
After your ticket comes up andsays that the ride's down, you
can rebook a ticket.
So I could get four lightninglane passes for any rides at any
of the parks within the firsthour of being there.
(56:10):
Now the rest of the time whatyou're doing is you're trying to
find the ride that's going tobreak down.
And there's a couple rides thatbreak down all the time.
Roger rabbit breaks down allthe time it seems to be uh, you
can go to find the ride that'sgoing to break down.
And there's a couple of ridesthat break down all the time.
Roger Rabbit breaks down allthe time it seems to be uh, you
can go to Mickey's fly school.
Goofy's fly schoolIncredicoaster sometimes.
Ody (56:26):
Indiana Jones.
Nathan Mumm (56:26):
Indiana Jones
crashes.
So what you're doing is you'relooking for a ride, and if
you're on a ride that actuallybreaks down, then you
immediately open your app.
I was on Mickey's Runaway and Iimmediately opened up the app
because it broke down so I couldschedule it, knowing that the
ride was going to be broken downand I could get free passes.
So, long story short, we havesix unlimited passes which
(56:49):
essentially can get you throughDisney.
Mike Gorday (56:51):
California.
Long story short.
If you want to cheat atsomething, talk to Nathan.
Nathan Mumm (56:55):
No, when you're at
the theme park of Disneyland,
don't go to the rides that youwant to get on.
Look for the rides that aregoing to break down, because if
you schedule those rides tobreak down, then you can choose
to go to any ride you want.
Now in this plan, there's acouple tips to make sure that
you start out with certain ridesfirst and stay in an area not
to discuss you need to go.
(57:17):
There's called fast pass umplans that are out there.
There's lightning laneinformation that you can find
online, and all these are greattools to tell you how to
schedule your day.
But if you want to hack disneyand you want to go through every
ride at both parks in a day,look for those broken rides and
subscribe, subscribe, subscribedo we not talk on this radio
(57:37):
show about how bad hacking is?
well, this is.
This is not like, I'm nothacking into the back end.
Different thing, this is adifferent thing.
Ody (57:46):
Had you ever thought about
this until today, when I was
taking advantage of a systemwhen you did tell me about it, I
was telling you about adifferent solution that I've
been doing okay, yeah, andwhat's your solution?
well, my solution is this likeuh, pick a ride that you don't
want to get on, okay, so thatyou can use the fast or the
lightning lane, yep, and thentrade it out for the one that
(58:09):
you actually want to get on at alater time, because you can
book at any time and then youcan go back and you can say
modify plan on their little appand you can go and choose a
different one.
Mike Gorday (58:16):
Is this something
that I can Google and it's going
to tell me how to hack thesystem.
My.
Nathan Mumm (58:21):
Thing you can look
it up on TikTok, youtube Shorts,
anything, and it's a prettywell-known thing, I don't think
anybody's gotten our hack yet,because I was talking about it
to people.
Ody (58:28):
And because of you, instead
of gatekeeping it for your
close friends, now we're puttingit out there for the rest of
the world.
Nathan Mumm (58:34):
So now Disney's
going to figure out a way to
change this.
Ody (58:36):
So now, Disney's going to
fix it.
This is my excuse to go down toDisney now to get ahead of the
jump.
Nathan Mumm (58:41):
You get ahead of
the jump as soon as we edit this
and we put this online, it'sgoing to be they're going to
figure out a way not to do that.
Speaker 2 (58:47):
Yeah.
Nathan Mumm (58:48):
Okay, there you go.
If you do go down right now,which is the old Twilight Zone,
they have now a Halloweenedition ride, so they actually
have a whole bunch of new audioand a whole bunch of.
Ody (59:00):
I've never done that before
.
It's during the day, it's aregular ride, and then in the
evening they change it toMonsters After Dark.
Nathan Mumm (59:06):
Yeah, that's pretty
good.
That's the first time I wroteon that and I wrote on that many
times with the free passsolution.
Ody (59:11):
All right, oh yeah, that's
it.
Mike Gorday (59:13):
Okay, that's what's
up.
Let's move now to our pick ofthe day whiskey tasting.
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (59:19):
And now our pick of
the day for our whiskey tastings
.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop.
Ody (59:26):
I'm going to be so honest.
Yeah, I really like thiswhiskey.
Nathan Mumm (59:29):
Oh, you couldn't
stand it, and now you grabbed
more during the show.
Ody (59:32):
Listen, listen, listen,
listen, listen.
I'm a little, I'm feeling it alittle bit.
Nathan Mumm (59:37):
You get a little
buzz.
Ody (59:38):
I'm getting a little buzz.
Mike Gorday (59:39):
Are you sure that's
not the Disney hack excitement?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,no no no, I don't like the
finish on it Okay.
Ody (59:48):
You know the clove, pepper
and citrus not a good well
combination for me.
I'm also not a rye girl, butit's a pretty good whiskey.
Nathan Mumm (59:58):
Okay, I think
Nathan's going to give it a
thumbs up, nathan's giving it anabsolute thumbs down.
Ody (01:00:06):
If we're drinking the Remus
straight bourbon whiskey single
barrel classified as a straightbourbon aged six years, 118
proof.
Mash bill is 51% corn, 49% rye$56 on the market.
Nathan Mumm (01:00:22):
What do you say?
Thumbs down.
Ody (01:00:25):
That's too much.
I'm with Mark.
Nathan Mumm (01:00:27):
Oh, you're going to
thumbs up.
Okay, you have this on yourshelf, mike, it comes down to
you.
Ody (01:00:30):
I wouldn't buy it.
Mike Gorday (01:00:32):
You already know
what I'm going to give it.
What are you going to give it?
It's a thumbs up.
It's really good.
Nathan Mumm (01:00:35):
Okay, all right.
Well, we got to split thumbs onthis.
Nobody cares about your thumb,that's right.
Mark will be like.
That thumb can go someplaceelse, exactly, all right.
Well, we're just about out oftime.
We want to thank everybody thatlistened to our show today.
It's an honor to be the host ofthe show.
Remember, the science oftomorrow starts with the
technology of today.
(01:00:56):
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Mike Gorday (01:00:58):
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