Data privacy wars are heating up as tech giants face mounting legal and social consequences for their actions. In this eye-opening episode, we dissect Google's staggering $425 million privacy lawsuit settlement after the company was caught collecting user data even when people explicitly opted out of tracking. The verdict raises crucial questions about what "privacy choices" actually mean in today's digital landscape.
The billionaire bubble gets punctured as we explore Mark Zuckerberg's neighborhood troubles in Silicon Valley. After purchasing 11 properties for a massive $110 million compound, Zuckerberg's construction projects have neighbors up in arms over noise, privacy invasions, and security guards harassing residents on public sidewalks. His solution to noise complaints? Sending neighbors noise-canceling headphones rather than addressing the actual problem – a perfect metaphor for how tech billionaires approach community relations.
Disney joins the privacy violation club with a $10 million settlement for improperly labeling children's videos on YouTube, allowing collection of kids' personal information without parental consent. Despite YouTube manually correcting hundreds of Disney videos and alerting the entertainment giant to the problem, the company continued the practice – demonstrating how even child-focused businesses prioritize data collection over privacy protections.
Our Gadgets and Gear segment takes an educational turn as we analyze a suspicious Kickstarter dash cam project, identifying red flags like stock footage videos, unrealistically low funding goals, and high backer cancellation rates. This practical lesson helps listeners avoid potential crowdfunding scams while still supporting legitimate innovations.
We wrap with a passionate discussion about the commercialization of supposedly "ad-free" premium services like NFL Red Zone, examining how streaming platforms initially hook subscribers with commercial-free promises before gradually introducing advertising. The conversation sparks important questions about value, transparency, and the limits of consumer patience in the subscription economy.
Ready to stay ahead of mainstream tech news while enjoying insightful analysis with a dash of humor? Subscribe to our podcast, follow us on social media @TechTimeRadio, and visit techtimeradio.com to join our community of informed, engaged tech enthusiasts.
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Now on today's show .
All right, today on the show,we have Gwen way back with our
gadgets and gear segment.
We got Mark Zuckerberg, disneyand Duolingo all in hot water,
and more.
In addition to that, we haveour standard features, including
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Now, though, it's time for thelatest headlines in the world of
technology.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Here are our top technology stories of the week.
Nathan Mumm (02:16):
All right, google's told to pay $425 million in a
privacy lawsuit.
Let's go to Lisa Walker formore on this story.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
A US federal court has told Google to pay $425
million for breaching users'privacy by collecting data from
millions of users even afterthey had turned off a tracking
feature in their Google accounts.
The verdict comes after a groupof users brought the case,
claiming Google accessed users'mobile devices to collect, save
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and use their data in violationof privacy assurances in its web
and app activity setting.
A Google spokesperson said inresponse this decision
misunderstands how our productswork and we will appeal it.
Our privacy tools give peoplecontrol over their data, and
when they turn offpersonalization, do they honor
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that choice?
Nathan Mumm (03:16):
Well, the jury seems to have a different
opinion.
The jury in the case found theInternet search giant liable on
two of the three claims ofprivacy violation, but said that
the firm had not acted withmalice.
Now the attorneys that sued areobviously very pleased with the
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verdict.
They said In the return.
David Boies, an attorney forthe users that sued against them
, said in the class actionlawsuit them said in the class
action lawsuit Google'scollection practices extend to
hundreds of thousands ofsmartphone apps, including those
for ride hailing, companieslike Uber and Lyft, e-commerce
giants like Alibaba, amazon andMeta, social networks, instagram
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and Facebook.
Now Google says that when usersturn off web and app activity on
their accounts.
Now Google says that when usersturn off web and app activity
on their accounts, businessesusing the Google Analytics may
still collect data about theiruse of sites and apps, but that
this information does notidentify individual users and
respects their privacy choices.
So let's talk about that, mikenot collecting individual user
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data.
But that is still collectingthe data, even though so I as a
user has gone in to the settingsfor the web activity and I said
I do not want to be tracked.
But if I use uber, lyft,alabama, amazon or any of the
other meta facebooks.
Google says that it's stillgoing to track me.
It's just not going to put themy username and my password or
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my information on what's goingon.
So let's do a profile of a manover 50, blah, blah, blah, blah
blah, but won't actually trackmy information.
That's still collecting thedata, though, isn't that?
I mean?
I said I don't want them tocollect it.
They're collecting it, sure,why not?
right so so should google beable to do that?
I mean that's kind of likecircumventing.
I mean that's clearly why theylost the lawsuit right $425
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million they lose, so that can'tbe that they're actually doing
anything.
Mike Gorday (05:13):
It's funny when you come down on one side of an
argument, then like two weekslater you're on the other side
of that argument.
Ody (05:20):
Well, this is Wait.
When was he opposing for usernot having privacy?
Mike Gorday (05:27):
This is just part of this greater conversation
about how he's okay with Chinastealing our data.
Well, that's.
Gwen Way (05:32):
China.
Mike Gorday (05:33):
And then he's yelling at Google for stealing
our data.
Nathan Mumm (05:36):
TikTok says they're stealing your data.
Mike Gorday (05:38):
Tiktok never hides it, oh as long as they're being
honest about it.
Nathan Mumm (05:43):
Okay, I missed that part.
Okay, so if I opt out In TikTok, I have no way to opt out from
them tracking me.
If I use TikTok, they'retracking me we have known this
forever, though.
Okay, we have, and we've talkedabout this for six plus years.
Mike Gorday (05:55):
The fact that they're finally getting busted
for it.
That shouldn't be a surprise$425 million.
Nathan Mumm (06:05):
Now, who of that money?
I'm not seeing any of thatmoney.
Do I have to do a class action?
Mike Gorday (06:07):
lawsuit against them too.
Nathan Mumm (06:08):
If, if you did a class action lawsuit for google
and they won, you would get twobucks and I've signed up for a
couple of these class actionstuff and then you know what
happens is when you actually getpaid from the class action,
then I lose all ability to thensue them at any later time.
Speaker 7 (06:22):
So actually for, like the two, the $2 you get back,
then they actually get saved.
Mike Gorday (06:25):
It really is $425 million, really that much for
Google to pay out.
Nathan Mumm (06:29):
I don't know, and I don't know if they ever, really
ever, pay out these fines.
There's no way you can stay inbusiness with all these fines,
billions and billions of dollarsof fines that get paid off.
Mike Gorday (06:37):
Well, I might disagree with you on that.
But hey, We'll talk about thatlater.
Nathan Mumm (06:41):
All right, sounds good.
Well, guess what?
Google's also very happybecause, separately this week,
google shares rose by more than9% on Wednesday of last week
after the US federal judge ruledthat it will not have to sell
its Chrome web browser, but mustshare information with
competitors.
Yeah, tell me how easy that'sgoing to be.
So Google gets to keep Chrome,and now their penalty is that
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they have to share the userswith the competitors.
If I call up when I'm the bravebrowser and I say, hey, I want
to grab your data, you thinkthat Google is going to give
that data away?
It's going to be the easiestthing in the world.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
That is going to be like a lawsuit.
Nathan Mumm (07:17):
That's going to be well, hang on.
We're going to transfer youover to customer support agent
27.
And then 27 will be like.
You know what?
I don't have the ability to dothat yeah so the next manager,
that manager will be out onpaternity leave and then that
person won't get back to you forsix months.
And then, when they get back toyou six months, it'll be oh,
that person's no longer here.
Now that this person came back,I'm now taking over the account
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and I need to do a whole review.
Oh my gosh, oh my goodness allright, right, today's decision.
Mike Gorday (07:44):
Today is Nathan grumpy day, nathan's grumpy and
Mike is less grumpy.
Nathan Mumm (07:51):
Nathan is going to go all the way to the Nathan
nugget.
We'll see if we make it all theway there.
I am grumpy.
All right, you know what, mike.
Turn our grumpiness around withstory number two.
Mike Gorday (08:00):
I don't know how this is going to turn it around,
but I don't know how this isgoing to turn it around.
But hey, you know, markZuckerberg's back in the news
and we love it when Mark is inthe news.
He's our favorite person.
Nathan Mumm (08:07):
Yeah, we have an Elon Musk.
Actually, we have so manyfavorites.
Mike Gorday (08:10):
Yeah, we love them all.
Bezos Okay, this is just onemore activity of the billionaire
boys club here.
Okay, so why isn't Zuckerbergin the news?
Well, this is coming out ofCrescent Park in Silicon
Valley's Palo Alto, which isconsidered a once quiet
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neighborly enclave.
Oh, no, okay I don't know whyrich people think this way, but
hey, mark is snatching upproperties and engaging in
massive disruptive constructionprojects, which the folks of the
neighborhood are claiming he'sjust finding loopholes around
local zoning laws and ordinances.
(08:54):
Uh, it doesn't surprise me.
He is purchased 11 propertiesin this neighborhood in order to
amass the land necessary for amassive compound.
Oh boy, paying out at least 110million in the process you know
what?
Nathan Mumm (09:08):
I worked for a uh, a billionaire that did exactly
this in mercer island inwashington.
Mike Gorday (09:14):
So this is very this is just I know how this is
a billionaire thing yep, well,in order, in order to do all
this, he is engaged in massive,disrupt, disrupting construction
projects, which is reallybothering his neighbors, okay,
as a result of all this stuff.
Oh, and also, yeah, he hassecurity cameras pointed at
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their properties, okay, andsecurity guards that harass them
while they're walking on publicwalkways.
Nathan Mumm (09:42):
What they can't do, that they can't harass them
while they're walking on publicwalkways.
What they can't do?
That they can't harass them onpublic areas.
Mike Gorday (09:45):
Well, Peter Balte, a local resident who sat on the
city's review board, saidmembers of Zuckerberg's security
force confronted him while hewas reviewing a potential
project site from a public space.
According to Balte, a securityguard questioned him while he
was standing on the sidewalk andhe said hey, I'm standing on
the sidewalk looking at thisproject.
And they told him hey, we'dappreciate it if you could move
(10:13):
on, okay.
Nathan Mumm (10:13):
And he said well, this is a public sidewalk, yep
you can't shut public sidewalksdown.
Mike Gorday (10:16):
Well, a spokesperson for zuckerberg
assured the times that themulti-billionaire cares about
his neighbors and has remainedin compliance with local rules
and regulations.
The facts suggest otherwise.
Okay, and top it off.
This is what I love here, totop it off in response to all
his neighbors complaints aboutthe noise and everything.
Guess what he did.
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What did he do?
Nathan Mumm (10:38):
he gave them a bunch of money nope, he gave
them all noise-cancelingheadphones.
Are you kidding me?
Yeah so he's causing a problemand his solution is when people
are saying it's too loud.
He wants his neighbors now towalk around with headphones on
all the time that arenoise-canceling.
Mike Gorday (10:59):
That's what he did.
He's a very generous guy.
Nathan Mumm (11:01):
Mark, were they some knockoff version of noise
canceling?
I have no idea I don't know.
Mike Gorday (11:10):
It doesn't say what that is.
Nathan Mumm (11:11):
You know these billionaires when they build
these complexes.
This is just crazy.
I did work for an individual,one of the co-founders of
Microsoft.
He's since passed away.
Mike Gorday (11:21):
Yeah, you can say his name Paul Allen.
Nathan Mumm (11:24):
Yeah, you can say that.
Okay.
So I worked with him in hiswhole compound.
He purchased many houses and soyou would enter in at a certain
uh, top of the hill, and thenhe would have to go all the way
around.
It was kind of like a um, whatdo you want to say?
A maze of roads that allinterconnected all the houses
together until you got to thebig mansion, and then you would
(11:45):
kind of loop around and go backout yeah, you know, you know
what I want to see.
Mike Gorday (11:49):
I want to see a movie of the guy that's the
holdout.
He's got the, he's got the oneproperty in the middle of all
these other properties.
Well, there was there won'tsell it.
Nathan Mumm (11:57):
So guess what happens most of the time?
These billionaires will go tothe city and ask for eminent
domain and they'll pay thepeople off to say that they need
to do that.
I have seen that firsthand,where somebody will have a house
and they're not willing to sellit, and what will happen is the
city will intervene and come onin and say, hey, we really need
you to do this, here's whatwe're going to do, here's your
assessed value.
And then normally thebillionaire says well, this is
(12:18):
the assessed value, I'll pay youa little bit more and and boom,
it gets happened.
Mike Gorday (12:22):
All right, well, well, that's, that's what Mark's
up to today, all right.
Nathan Mumm (12:26):
Well, let me just tell you what Disney is up to.
Well, disney has to pay $10million to settle claims it
collected data on YouTube aboutkids.
Kids that should not be.
It's all about data collection.
Disney will pay $10 million tosettle claims by the US Federal
Trade Commission that itmislabeled videos for children
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on youtube, which allowed thecollection of kids personal
information without theirconsent or notification to their
parents.
This occurred after theentertainment giant failed to
tag kid directed videos onyoutube as made for kids.
This is the easiest.
We post youtube videos all thetime.
There is no way.
If you're posting a youtubevideo that you do not understand
(13:07):
what the made for kids label is, it comes on out with
instructions that you have toclick away from to make sure
that you're not doing this.
So that this is not a simpleyeah, but what if?
Mike Gorday (13:16):
what are the chances that this is?
This was some intern doing?
Nathan Mumm (13:21):
no, no, there's no way.
No, no, no.
So hang on, it gets even worse,so okay this is stealing the
kids information, datacollection, and it's required.
Since 2019, youtube has had thetag for videos made for kids
mfk, when google and youtubepaid 100 fml that's right.
(13:43):
when google and youtube paid 170million million to settle
claims that they violated this,which required websites, online
services and apps to notifyparents and obtain parent
consent before collectingpersonal information from
children under 13, they sent outa massive email to every one of
their providers.
However, according to thecomplaint, disney has marked all
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videos uploaded on YouTube asMFK at the channel's level,
which has led to each videobeing incorrectly tagged as not
made for children.
So, instead of doing made forchildren, they tagged each one
of them incorrectly.
Disney also failed tocorrectively designate
child-focused content, despiteYouTube.
Youtube went in and alerted theentertainment child uh giant
(14:27):
that it has switched labels in2020 for over 300 disney videos
and they changed them, forthey're not made for kids to
made for kid, including somewith music and visual content
for the incredibles, coco toystory, frozen and mic Mouse.
So YouTube went through andmanually changed 300 of them and
then continuously sent emailsto Disney saying, hey, knock it
(14:51):
off, do it the correct way.
Mike Gorday (14:53):
Okay, if you're Disney, are you really going to
have YouTube tell you what to do?
Well, like.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
YouTube no, because it'd be like hey Disney.
Mike Gorday (15:05):
No, because Disney you need to do something.
This way, disney's like hey, weown everything, no, disney
received.
Nathan Mumm (15:11):
A portion of the revenues that YouTube generates
from the advertising is placedby Disney videos and revenues
from advertising that Disneysells directly, so Disney
profited off this.
So what YouTube should do is goback and take that money.
Youtube shouldn't be payingthem out money if they're
incorrectly labeling them.
Yeah, you know what we?
Mike Gorday (15:27):
should just all do.
What's that?
We should just all just giveout our information to everybody
.
Okay, and then shut up.
Nathan Mumm (15:35):
Well, we do that.
We do that with our transunionbreaches.
It's already out there.
Mike Gorday (15:40):
I don't know why I don't know why we keep whining
about it, because it's alreadyout there and you know
everybody's upset about disneydoing this and youtube doing
that and google and blah, blahblah.
Why don't we just just eitherstop using the internet, okay,
or just stop?
Nathan Mumm (15:59):
complaining about it.
Okay, in the In the settlementit says that required Disney to
notify parents before collectingkids personal information and
to implement a new programdesigned to ensure the videos
posted on YouTube are designatedas made for kids.
Okay, how do you do that?
I don't know.
So clearly they can't followthe directions of just hitting a
checkbox.
It is literally a checkbox onhow you post videos.
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They can't do that.
But now, as a penalty, they'regoing to need to come up with a
way to notify parents that if,when you click on a YouTube, if
somebody is under the agewatching it, so now they're
going to have to have access toyour camera to see how old the
person is that's watching yourYouTube videos, to then say,
oops, you shouldn't be watching.
Okay, grumpy Nathan.
Mike Gorday (16:39):
Put your soapbox away, let's move on.
Nathan Mumm (16:42):
That ends our top technology stories of the week.
Moving on, I'm sure we'll havesome great gadgets and gear
coming on up here from Gwen Way.
She's going to be joining us inour next segment, so buckle up
as we drive 88 miles per hourinto our next segment after this
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Hurry up, mark.
Welcome back to Tech Time withNathan Mumm.
Our weekly show covers the toptechnology subjects without any
political agenda.
We verify the facts, we do itwith a sense of humor, in less
than 60 minutes and, of course,with a little whiskey on the
side.
Today, mark Gregoire, whiskeyConnoisseurs and Studio Wow.
It's been like seven and a halfmonths since.
Marc Gregoire (18:06):
I've seen you.
How are you doing, at least fortoday?
Nathan Mumm (18:10):
I'm sure you're going to make a commitment to be
on the show for the next sixweeks in a row, right, no?
Marc Gregoire (18:16):
Okay, I have a life.
Okay, well, I'm glad you'rehere today.
He's secretly Mark Zuckerberg.
Nathan Mumm (18:20):
Yeah, that's right.
He wouldn't be secret aboutthat.
I think he'd just be like yeah.
I'm building a big house.
Marc Gregoire (18:26):
All right Mark, yes, what have you chosen for us
today?
Well, today is the 2024 FlavorAdvent Calendar.
Okay, we are doing 24remarkable whiskeys used for our
year-long blind whiskeycompetition to see which one
Nathan and Mike like best.
So come along for the ride onceevery month while they uncover
new tastes and train theirsenses to become true
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connoisseurs.
Of course, listen to the show.
The last few weeks, I'm stillnot sure on Nathan.
Mike Gorday (18:52):
Now, I think that's relatively obvious.
What do you mean?
What do you mean I?
Nathan Mumm (18:56):
think I've been pretty fair, remus.
Marc Gregoire (18:59):
I didn't like that at all.
I did not like that I have tolike everything that you sent to
us everything good, okay, well.
Well, today is the third, yeahand final battle in round two,
where you will choose yourwinner to move on to the next
round, which will be the semis,if you disagree on the deciding
vote now.
(19:20):
Today's blind battle is a clashof opposites.
Uh-oh, that actually sharessome surprising ground.
On one side we have a younger,wine-barrel age world traveler
with a softer proof, bringingbright notes and a fresh take on
tradition.
On the other, a bolder, olderAmerican classic with higher
(19:40):
proof, leaning into rich depthand spice.
One's hails from far overseas,the other from our own backyard.
Different styles, differentages, but both aiming to prove
they can punch above theirweight in the glass.
So stay tuned to see which onewins out and advances from this
round to the semis.
Okay Well.
Nathan Mumm (20:00):
I know that Mike and I already had a little bit
of a different opinions to startout.
So we don't want mark choosing,do we?
Because he always chooses whatyou do.
Mike Gorday (20:07):
So I gotta convince you oh okay, yeah, let's, let's
do it.
Let's do it like that, so hecan choose what you do, that's
right, okay, wow, thank you mark.
Marc Gregoire (20:15):
Don't forget to like and subscribe, add those
comments in there and foreverdrink responsibly.
Nathan Mumm (20:20):
Heaven can wait, that's perfect all you know, I
got a new tagline tonight.
I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Science of tomorrow starts with the knowledge of
today.
Nathan Mumm (20:29):
Alright, with our whiskey tasting completed, let's
move on to our feature segment.
Today we have Gwen Way joiningthe show.
She's an expert in cybersecurity during the day and a
game board geek in the evening,as well as producer of Tech Time
Radio and, of course, ourGadgets and Gear Gal.
Let's get ready to start ourComcast video stream to start
(20:51):
this next segment what's new inour Gadgets and Gear All right,
welcome back to the show, gwen.
Gwen Way (20:58):
Tell us a little bit about yourself for new listeners
.
Well, with over a quarter of acentury in technology experience
, uh, I've seen everything fromwindows 98 all the way up
through 11.
Nathan Mumm (21:10):
So here we go, here we go, okay, well, glad to have
you a part of our group.
You know, gwen I think I waslooking back so we've known each
other for like 10 plus years,12 plus years, I mean it's there
abouts yeah, it's good, it'sbeen a while.
It's been a while.
That's fantastic.
You know what.
Nothing's better than knowinggwen.
It makes me so excited.
You know what?
I'll tell you.
I was at her wedding and of allthe weddings I've ever attended
in my life, her wedding was thebest you.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
You got like it was.
She did it at a zoo, we knowthis story like 80, 80, 80 times
you've heard this haven't you.
Nathan Mumm (21:40):
It is not changing opinion.
It was the best wedding thatI've ever been to.
Alright, Gwen, let's talk aboutit.
Mike Gorday (21:45):
I hope your children don't hear this.
Nathan Mumm (21:47):
I already told them .
I told them both, I told themboth right in front of them.
Okay.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
I said that they both at their weddings.
Nathan Mumm (21:52):
Yes, yeah, your wedding sucks, your wedding
sucks.
Gwen Way (21:56):
This was cool and all, but let me talk for a minute.
Mike Gorday (22:00):
You should have done like Gwen did and had it at
a zoo, All right.
Gwen Way (22:06):
Gwen, tell us a little bit about your project.
Well, this is going to be aninteresting one for this month.
It is a dash cam, which makes acertain amount of sense as we
go back to school and have olderchildren driving.
We want to keep an eye on them,don't we?
Nathan Mumm (22:21):
We sure do, absolutely.
I do have a dash cam in my carright now, so I got to see if
this is one that will make mechange what's that Never?
Mike Gorday (22:29):
mind.
What's the matter?
I was under the impression thatWashington doesn't let you use
dash cams.
Nathan Mumm (22:36):
Well, I don't think you're supposed to.
Ody (22:38):
No, that's not what it was at all, if you were paying
attention.
Mike Gorday (22:42):
I'm too poor to pay attention.
What are you talking about?
Ody (22:44):
If it's blocking your field of sight.
Nathan Mumm (22:47):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, odie, so it has
to be not huge.
Ody (22:52):
Yes, exactly.
Mike Gorday (22:53):
It can't be blocking, I can't have a huge
video cam.
Nathan Mumm (22:55):
No, you can't have a huge video cam.
Okay, well's great about this.
I'm sure it's probably infraredand everything else.
Gwen Way (23:05):
Tell us it is in fact, so.
This dash cam is on kickstarter, uh, the name of the project is
this track vis for visiont-r-a-k.
Uh, and it is touting itself asthe smallest four-channel dash
cam with night vision.
So basically, what this does,is it not only records in 2K in
(23:30):
front of you, it's got 180p onboth sides and the rear and
includes a night cam so that youcan keep track of everything at
night.
Nathan Mumm (23:40):
Okay, all right, so it's the VizTrack.
Keep track of everything atnight?
Okay, all right, so it's theVizTrack.
Now what are the features of itthat make it better than a
standard dash cam?
Because I have a standard dashcam.
What features on here make thisso much different than the
other dash cams?
Gwen Way (23:57):
Well, there are a couple of different things.
Nathan Mumm (23:59):
It's got a cool name.
It does have a cool name, itdoes have a cool name.
Gwen Way (24:03):
It's also smaller than most dash cams so you get
around the whole.
It's too big for Washingtonstate.
It's got the four channels allbuilt in, including the night
vision.
The side cameras actually willrotate so you're able to see the
entire 180 degrees on bothsides and you can loop
recordings if you need to.
(24:24):
Those are all pretty big things.
You also have a wifi control soyou can set it up when you get
home.
Nathan Mumm (24:31):
All right, well, tell me the stats of this.
Tell me how many backers, wherethe company's located, how many
pledges and the unit cost.
Gwen Way (24:40):
Yep, so it is out of Santa Clara, california.
There are currently 484 backerswith about a week to go and
they have brought in $46,000 atthis point.
Nathan Mumm (24:55):
Okay, so now we talked about this a little bit
at the production meeting andI've done some research on this
company.
Now, many things on Kickstarteryou need to be careful of right
, so you got to be careful ofthings on kickstarter.
I'm not feeling verycomfortable with this item as
backing, so I've been fooledbefore on kickstarter and this
(25:18):
has me a bit concerned.
How many times probably threeor four times that I've actually
found Three or four.
Yeah, Sounds like it's been likewell you know what, maybe
overall it's been maybe 10throughout the whole time of my
type of deal.
Ody (25:32):
Only 10?
.
Nathan Mumm (25:34):
So yeah, and sometimes I can get it back.
Mike Gorday (25:37):
Sometimes I can get it back by the credit card
company.
Nathan Mumm (25:40):
He just wants to look good.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
So let me ask you that.
So, so here's my first thingI'm looking at it and the red
flags start picking up, so Iwatched the video.
Right, the video that's onthere and the video is has some
stock image footage in it, so II don't like stock footage.
When I see in there, I seepeople walking around and I see
(26:01):
big aerial shots of a city, andthose are all free video clips
that you can grab on theinternet roll.
Yeah, so it's b-roll, that islike high-end b-roll, so that's
my first thing is that almostthe entire video is b-roll it is
, so it all looks b-roll.
I see just the device on there acouple times and and the device
that I see is is kind of alittle bit of a blurry version
(26:23):
of this the, the close-upversion that they have, like the
still shot of this, looks likeit's been imposed with a much
nicer device than the one I see.
My next thing that goes up forthe flags is that it only needed
a thousand dollars as a goal.
So so kickstarters, normallywhen you do this so the visit
track, if this is a brand newcamera you're telling me that as
(26:45):
soon as $1,000 is raised,you're willing to build this
type of device.
So that scares me immensely,because normally the pledge
goals are $5,000.
At least that I get $10,000.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
It's a hustle.
Nathan Mumm (27:00):
So this gives me a little bit of concern.
And then Gwen help me out.
Here I go and I take a look atthe comments, right?
So there's 22 comments on here,and when I look at it I see the
creator responding, and thenwhat I see is this person has
canceled their pledge.
Then I see a question in thereand I says this person has
canceled their pledge.
And then I go on in here andsays this person has canceled
(27:21):
his pledge.
I'm scrolling through on themain site right now, just
scrolling down actively, and Isee at least 10 people that at
one time had pledged money forthis project that have pulled it
back.
Because what can happen beforethe item closes?
What are you allowed to do as aKickstarter?
Tell everybody.
Gwen Way (27:41):
You're able to actually back out your pledge
and cancel it, but you cannot dothat officially after it's
completed.
Nathan Mumm (27:49):
So now I've seen all these people that are
deserting the pledge numbers.
I don't know if the pledgenumbers go down or up after
they've pledged the money andthey cancel.
I don't know that system of howit works.
I actually spent a lot of timetrying to find that out through
an ai search and through, justuh, viewing the terms and
conditions with kickstarter, andit doesn't say what happens
with that.
(28:10):
So, um, it makes me have someconcern about that.
Also, the faq is is not?
Um, it looks like.
Is it difficult to install it?
It talks about this back camera, which is a cable.
Mike Gorday (28:24):
Or maybe I should be wearing my don't click on
stuff hat.
Gwen Way (28:28):
That is absolutely the hat you should be wearing.
Should I be comfortable?
Nathan Mumm (28:33):
Okay, should I be comfortable with this device or
should I have some warning flags?
Tell us, what should I be doingwhen I look at all this stuff?
Gwen Way (28:41):
Personally, I think that this particular product is
full of warning flags.
Everybody should be taking noteof the things that Nathan has
mentioned, because these aregood things to keep an eye on.
If you're just kind ofwandering around Kickstarter
looking at different products,you want to make sure that you
don't see a lot of this.
(29:03):
Creator has canceled theirpledge in the comments.
You want to make sure that whenthey're actually giving you a
video, it's a video of theproduct as it appears in the
Kickstarter and is not mostlyB-roll.
So everybody who's actuallymaking these products, what they
generally will do is make oneor two proof of concepts, and
(29:28):
those proof of concept piecesare what they use in the videos
so that you could actually seewhat the project is going to end
up looking like and what it'sgoing to do.
Obviously, there are sometweaks that go on during the
manufacturing process but itshould be fairly similar between
(29:49):
plan and video.
Nathan Mumm (29:50):
Okay, so this is actually an educational piece
for everybody that's listening.
So this Kickstarter project iscalled what again, gwen?
Gwen Way (29:56):
It's called Vistrak V-I-S-T-R-A-K.
Mike Gorday (30:00):
Otherwise don't get this one.
Gwen Way (30:02):
Exactly.
I fully support everybodyactually going to Kickstarter
though, taking a look at it andkind of seeing some of the
warning signs that we touched ontoday, just to educate yourself
going forward, so that you canpick the best and brightest
projects that you want topurchase.
Nathan Mumm (30:19):
All right.
So we always ask this questionAre you going to be getting a
unit?
I am not, definitely not, and Idon't think I will be either.
All right, gwen, thank you somuch.
Tell everybody a little bitabout how they can connect with
you if they want to submit agadget to you.
Where would they go and say,hey, gwen, I found this great
gadget.
How can they submit that to you?
Gwen Way (30:39):
Best place to do that is actually on Mr Zuckerberg's
Facebook, since we were talkingabout him earlier.
You can go there and find theTech Time group and send me a
message there.
Nathan Mumm (30:52):
Perfect, gwen.
Thank you so much.
What did you think of that?
Mike Gorday (30:55):
Mike, what About the thing?
Nathan Mumm (30:58):
or the.
Zuckerberg thing About theZuckerberg thing About this unit
.
Would you like one of theseunits?
Mike Gorday (31:05):
No, I don't have one in my.
Nathan Mumm (31:07):
I don't have one.
Mike Gorday (31:09):
I don't want one, I don't need one.
Nathan Mumm (31:10):
Okay.
Well, we thank Gwen so much forbeing a part of the show.
She does a great job of findingthe most unique items each
month.
For our show.
This item was really unique anda great concept, but we
actually spent the time to showyou warning signs of what to
stay away from.
Maybe I should get one for mymotorcycle oh, there you go.
All right.
Now let's move on to mike'smesmerizing moment.
(31:31):
Welcome to mike's mesmerizingmoment.
What does mike have to saytoday?
All right, grumpy nathan saysmike, why do we have so many
companies paying out lawsuits?
Is it the nature for humans tosue all the time now?
Mike Gorday (31:49):
wow, that's a.
That's a really complicatedquestion.
Well, yes, yes, okay okay, uh,if you have not lived under a
rock here in america.
Uh, lawsuits are crazy.
That's a whole industry in andof itself.
Okay, we have been doing itsince the mcdonald's thing the
(32:12):
hot coffee the hot coffee atmcdonald's, okay.
Secondly, why are they payingout fines?
Well, they have to.
It's it's, it's part of a legaljudgment, but there's probably
a little bit of an additionalthing here, because you would
think that it would teach themto be better yeah but actually
(32:33):
you know the fines don't amountto much in the greater pot that
they're pulling from.
So would you rather if you werean owner of this big business,
right, and you were makingoodles of money, but you were
doing things wrong and peopletook you to court and you had to
(32:54):
pay a fine?
That is much less than what youwould have to do to actually
change your business strategy.
What would you do?
Nathan Mumm (33:04):
I guess you'd pay the fine, wouldn't you?
This goes all the way back tothe car manufacturing, when they
had that blinker issue in Fordand stuff like that.
Remember, they knew that thisblinker issue could cause an
issue and they said, well, justwait and pay the fines, because
it's much easier than repairingit.
Mike Gorday (33:18):
It's much easier to pay the fines than to repair
the problem.
So, um, yeah, I think that'spretty, pretty well known.
Okay, so there you go.
All right, we, we, we just liketo sue people we like to sue
people.
Nathan Mumm (33:36):
All right.
Mike Gorday (33:37):
I'm going to go down and sue somebody randomly
later on today, okay.
Ody (33:41):
We know that that is pretty standard for the US.
Do we think that that alsoapplies to the EU and other
countries around the world?
Mike Gorday (33:51):
I don't know.
That's a good question.
It depends on how they monitorand manage their government and
uh business not italy.
Ody (34:01):
They'll just off you in the middle of the corner if you
start complaining right forexample, privacy laws are so
much more strict over in the euespecially uh gdp.
Nathan Mumm (34:12):
So do you think that they?
Ody (34:13):
could get away with like oh , here's just a couple chum
change for you guys.
Mike Gorday (34:19):
I think they might, because, as the globalization
of capitalism continues, we'llsee a lot more of this stuff
going on in other countries,especially as they move towards
a society that's built off ofthis.
Nathan Mumm (34:36):
Okay, all right, let's move on.
Move on, mike.
Thank you so much yeah, foryour you sound really you sound
really mesmerized.
Mike Gorday (34:45):
Are you excited?
You know what?
Ody (34:46):
I was mesmerized mike, even though I knew that americans
are too happy.
Mike Gorday (34:51):
You've only been up for a couple of hours, so wow,
all right, thank you for her.
Nathan Mumm (34:56):
Your mesmerizing moment.
Up next we have this week intechnology, so now would be a
great time to enjoy.
He's making fun of yoursleeping habits.
A little whiskey on the side,as we'll be doing so during the
break.
You're listening to tech timeradio with nathan.
Mum see in a few minutes.
Hey, mike, yeah, what's?
Speaker 7 (35:10):
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Speaker 1 (36:16):
And now let's look back at this week in technology.
Nathan Mumm (36:21):
All right, we're going back to September 14th
1956.
The IBM 350 disk storage unitmodel one was released.
Now the IBM 350 disk storageunit was announced, which was
the first commercial storageunit to use a magnetic disk for
storage.
The technology behind the harddrive was established because of
(36:41):
the 350 disk storage unit.
About the size of tworefrigerators and weighing in at
one ton, the 350 could bestored for about four to five
megabytes of data at a time,depending on how it was
calculated.
Now the 350 would be anintegral part of the ibm ram mac
305 computer which would beintroduced nine days later on
(37:02):
september 13th.
The ram mac 305 and the 350disk storage unit were designed
to replace the punch card tubefile system that was the primary
means of storing repetitiveaccess data previously.
Now that was this week intechnology.
If you ever wanted to watchsome tech time history of over
260 plus weekly broadcastsspanning our four plus years on
video, podcast and bloginformation, you can visit us at
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(38:11):
I just keep.
Marc Gregoire (38:11):
I'm just so excited to be here oh we're
excited to see you he's missedyou.
I guess.
So celebrating today, september9th.
What a day, yes, national.
What?
When pigs can fly day.
Nathan Mumm (38:25):
Oh, you know what?
No, what do I know?
I think you've had this onbefore.
No, I looked it up, are yousure?
Marc Gregoire (38:32):
I thought so too.
Nathan Mumm (38:34):
We had a flying cow before oh it was a flying cow,
not flying pig.
Marc Gregoire (38:38):
We love our national days of flying animals.
Okay, or tell me more Now.
This is a once a year reminderthat the impossible actually
does happen.
Some call it hope, others callit a miracle.
We call it a Tuesday at TechTime Radio, because if pigs can
fly, then you better believe.
Your gadgets can crash, yourwhiskey glass can refill itself
(38:59):
and Nathan and Mike mightfinally agree and be right about
something.
Nathan Mumm (39:03):
Oh wow, I don't know about that.
Still, I just felt a backhandedcompliment.
You're right about something.
Marc Gregoire (39:10):
Okay Now, since it's National when Pigs Can Fly
Day, and honestly, pigs flying.
Nathan Mumm (39:15):
Who created?
Marc Gregoire (39:15):
this holiday.
Mike Gorday (39:17):
Shouldn't it be National Impossible Day or
National Pigs Can Fly Day?
Who's the?
Nathan Mumm (39:22):
guy that writes in and says we're going to create
this day national.
Ody (39:26):
If you would let Mark finish he'll give you the
history.
Marc Gregoire (39:30):
I do not do the history.
Ody (39:31):
You know what it is.
Mike Gorday (39:33):
That's the guy where they're coming up with
days to talk about.
He's the one that they'recoming up with days to talk
about.
He's the one that's in thecorner going yeah, when pigs fly
, that'll happen.
And then they all say that.
Marc Gregoire (39:43):
And then they go hey, we need to make a day out
of that.
Okay, all right, I do believeit's a recent national holiday.
Nathan Mumm (39:48):
It's a recent one.
Okay, now Did the Trumpadministration put it in?
No, everybody laughed at that.
Marc Gregoire (39:56):
Now, with National Pigs Can Fly Day,
honestly honestly, nathan, pigsflying might make more sense
than these bottles going head tohead.
Okay, on one side, straight outof Australia, we have Starward
Nova, the young world traveler,strutting in a wine barrel.
Actually, I have a bottle ofthat on my deal, okay.
(40:17):
In the other corner fromVermont, the Big Boulder Bruiser
Nathan's favorite Whistle Pig,piggyback bourbon oh, I hate
Whistle Pig.
Nathan Mumm (40:26):
You do.
Marc Gregoire (40:27):
I hate Whistle Pig and you like both of these.
Nathan Mumm (40:29):
And I liked both of these.
I'm not a big Whistle Pig fan,so I hope that it's not.
Mike Gorday (40:34):
Whistle Pig, I guess the blind taste test
doesn't work on you real well.
Nathan Mumm (40:39):
No, there's one here that I finished.
I was very happy to finish andthere's one here that I'm
struggling with.
This is the third time youthink so.
Marc Gregoire (40:46):
No, this is the second time we've done
Whistlepig.
You hated it last time and Ipicked it with Mike.
Nathan Mumm (40:50):
You did.
Mike Gorday (40:51):
That's the Whistlepig you're liking right
there.
Nathan Mumm (40:54):
That's exactly why that's there.
That's exactly why that's there.
Marc Gregoire (40:58):
So let's remind the viewers about these two the
Starward Nova, single Malt.
It's from New World Distilleryin Australia.
It's aged three years, 82 proof, 100% malted barley, but aged
in wine barrels $40.
The Whistlepig PiggybackBourbon is from Vermont.
It's six years, 100 proof, mashbill is undisclosed and it's
(41:21):
$57.
Nathan Mumm (41:22):
All right, so you're liking the Whistlepig huh
, you think I don't know, Idon't know, I don't think it's
the Whistlepig that I like.
Mike Gorday (41:29):
Yes it's the Whistlepig.
You think so.
Yes, I don't know.
All right, yes, because I cantaste the wine in the other one.
Nathan Mumm (41:35):
You can taste the wine in the other one.
This one has wine in it, yeahit was aged in wine barrels,
dude oh.
Marc Gregoire (41:40):
I'm going to say this is a big question mark
which one of the two is becominga connoisseur, because they're
quite a bit different opinions.
All right, okay.
Well, where's your?
Ody (41:50):
money, odie On who's becoming a connoisseur.
Yes, oh, mike.
Marc Gregoire (41:55):
Okay, is that even a test?
Stay tuned till the end.
Ody (42:01):
Nathan doesn't even know what he does and doesn't like,
but we love Nathan, I'm nothating.
Nathan Mumm (42:07):
I get you, I get you Thanks a lot.
Well, that's because we love tohate on him.
That's right.
Whiskey and technology are sucha great pairing, like the NFL
start of the season and fantasyfootball.
Ody (42:18):
Woo, okay, that was a good pairing.
Thank you very much.
Wait a minute.
Facebook posts.
Odie, are you any fantasyfootball?
No, you know, I thought aboutgetting into it.
This year, though, mike is a no, I'm a.
Marc Gregoire (42:29):
no, I don't know if that was a good pairing for
this group.
Nathan Mumm (42:31):
Really, there's three out of four.
I'm in 25 different leaguesMost people are in 3-4 leagues.
I make up for all of you guys.
You talk about this as much asyou talk about Gwen's wedding,
that's right, they should alwayshave a wedding at a freaking
zoo or you do various football.
(42:52):
That's right Now, let's move onto prepare for our technology
fail of the week.
Speaker 7 (43:00):
Congratulations, you're a failure.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Oh, I failed.
Did I yes, did I yes.
Nathan Mumm (43:08):
All right.
This week our technology failcomes to us from Duolingo, the
language learning app that nowjust might be running on all AI
app that now just might berunning on all AI.
Duolingo, the language learningapp, apologized in an ex post
for calling author JK Rowlingmean in a German lesson.
They issued an apology thatsaid we apologize for the
(43:29):
offensive that was caused and wewill remove this content from
the app.
Duolingo said in response to anAugust 19th ex-post from Gabby
Coppel, a writer and TV producer, who said she was learning
German and came across thesentence that says yes, I like
Harry Potter, but the author ismean, isn't she mean?
(43:49):
I don't know, is the authormean for I?
Ody (43:55):
can use uglier words, but yeah, we can go with that.
Nathan Mumm (44:01):
It depends on your worldview.
Marc Gregoire (44:02):
I bet half our viewers out there think she's
mean and horrible and the otherhalf think she's bold and
truthful.
Mike Gorday (44:11):
Okay, I don't understand why we're having to
apologize for using the termmean.
Mean why are we apologizing forcalling somebody mean?
Nathan Mumm (44:19):
I guess we're in a very sensitive world right now.
Speaker 7 (44:22):
Mike, oh, that's why.
Nathan Mumm (44:24):
I just watched Space Jam last night with my
nephews and everything.
Speaker 7 (44:29):
Let me just tell you yeah, you're mean.
Nathan Mumm (44:30):
I'll just tell you If I watch that and then I see
some of the things that theysaid.
They called people stupid.
They called there was moron.
Mountain is where they're at.
If you look at some of thattype of stuff and I could see
through the young eyes lookingat it as those were like bad
words and no one's a moron andeverybody's good.
So so we have, as a society,changed mean before I yeah, I
(44:54):
would have had no problems withthat.
Mike Gorday (44:55):
You know that's because.
That's because when, when wewere growing up, it was like if
we said, hey, that person's meanto me, somebody would be like
shut up yeah, yeah and get a getover it yeah, but you know what
?
Nathan Mumm (45:10):
I think we're a little bit more sensitive now
and I guess somebody complainedabout her being mean and I think
that that mean part could havebeen.
Mike Gorday (45:20):
I'm just really divided on this because it's AI
doing this.
Nathan Mumm (45:23):
Can I so that is correct, because Duolingo
replaced everybody.
So this goes back to AI in asolution.
Yes, odia.
Ody (45:30):
And to add on top of that, before Duolingo did this, they
were in social media wise.
They were like the number onecompany to run their social
media page yeah, and then theyjokes and they had fun things.
They were just on top of itregardless, and their you know
views were great and blah blahand they were just doing well as
a company, and then theyintroduced this ai bs and it's
(45:50):
just kind of like they laid off50 of their staff yeah and now
ai.
Nathan Mumm (45:54):
The ceo has said that the apps would replace
human contractors withartificial intelligence for the
language application so this isproof this is really.
Mike Gorday (46:03):
This is really hard for me right now.
Why?
Is that because they they didthis thing with ai and the ai
has caused a stir where peopleare having to get them to
apologize for what the AI does.
Yeah, and I think that's justfunny.
You think that's funny?
Nathan Mumm (46:21):
So because they had AI, it then probably went on
out there and made theassessment that the author of
Harry Potter was mean, and sothey put it in the AI
translations.
Ody (46:34):
And now people in the press have to come on out and
apologize with Duolingo sayingon behalf of a robot for the
content that the AI created, aperson would have never done it.
Mike Gorday (46:47):
They would have never said that to you.
No, I don't think so.
Ody (46:51):
An employee, yes, but as a translating app, no.
At what point do you mention?
Oh yeah, this author is mean, Idon't know, it's weird.
Marc Gregoire (47:03):
My point that I don't understand is why this was
even in Duolingo to start with.
It's not a phrase I don't wantto use.
I want to say where's therestroom.
How do I find a sausage in thistown?
Dos cervezas In German.
Mike Gorday (47:16):
I want to learn.
Marc Gregoire (47:17):
German.
When I go around there, I don'twant to talk to somebody about
the Harry Potter books.
Nathan Mumm (47:22):
Okay, I guess they're trying.
Marc Gregoire (47:23):
Mark, you're old, he is old yeah, okay, well, I
guess when do I find the bestbeer?
That's Dos.
Nathan Mumm (47:29):
Cervezas, that's two beers in Spanish.
I mean, I know all I can askfor a beer in, I think, 15
different languages.
You know, nobody is surprisedby that.
That is the most importantthing when you travel
internationally.
There's like three things youneed.
Mike Gorday (47:41):
That's the most important right.
Nathan Mumm (47:42):
You need the banyo or the bathroom.
You need the bathroom right.
You need to know where beer isand you normally need to know
hotel.
That's all you need.
It's like where's beer, where'sthe bathroom.
Mike Gorday (47:52):
Thank you very much .
This is the American viewpointof.
Marc Gregoire (47:55):
Nathan, here I don't disagree though.
Mike Gorday (48:00):
No, but that being the three most important ones, I
would have a problem with that.
Marc Gregoire (48:06):
All right, what would be your three questions?
Mike, hello, how are you?
Damn it.
He puts a good point.
Nathan Mumm (48:13):
How are you?
Why do you care about theperson you're talking?
Marc Gregoire (48:18):
to oh no, that's horrible.
Ody (48:21):
God, that's such an American way of feeling.
Mike Gorday (48:24):
That's the Nathan way.
Ody (48:25):
That's.
Marc Gregoire (48:26):
Nathan Land.
Mike Gorday (48:27):
That's why when you go to Nathan Land, you just
walk in and they give you a beer.
Nathan Mumm (48:33):
They don't even say hello, they give you two beers.
You know what If Nathan Land?
Had an interest of two beers,Nathan Land would be full with
many beers.
Marc Gregoire (48:41):
I haven't seen Nathan in a few weeks.
I got sucked in.
Nathan Mumm (48:44):
Did you?
Marc Gregoire (48:44):
From my love, alright, well guess what.
Nathan Mumm (48:47):
Maybe this should be an I told you so segment.
We're now moving into theNathan Nugget.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
This is your Nugget of the Week.
Nathan Mumm (48:57):
Alright, don't go anywhere.
Anybody let me talk to youabout something is bugging the
heck out of me.
I just paid for the nfl redzone okay grumpy nathan, all
right, this is.
This is why I think I've beengrumpy.
And for the first week of thenfl games, guess what their red
zone used to come in their entryline was this welcome to seven
hours of non-stop football,commercial free.
(49:22):
Well, guess what?
I paid for the service.
I paid for a service to get thenfl red zone.
I pay for a service and it hascommercials.
I did not pay to getcommercials on my nfl red zone.
That is not what I'm paying for.
I pay for a premium product forthe n NFL red zone to watch all
the games at the same time sothat I can watch every touchdown
(49:43):
, not having an ad pop on up andsaying you can buy this, you
can do this.
Not a commercial breakhappening when there's a
stoppage to play.
None of that should happen.
When there's a stoppage of playand nothing is on in the red
zone, what they did previouslyevery single freaking year is
they go back to a replay or theygo into a commentation about
hey, what will be bill belichickdoing this or this person's
(50:05):
doing this?
And as I enjoyed the downtimeand scott hansen telling me a
factual information from hiscrew of three or four people in
the background that are poppinghim information to talk about
for the conversation.
Mike Gorday (50:19):
I'm not paying a premium service to have
commercials hey nathan, why, whyare you not getting hot under
the collar when we reportedabout this in other streaming
services?
Nathan Mumm (50:30):
well, let me just tell you, because I do, I have
been all, I've been all overthis right od come on.
Ody (50:35):
Yeah, I've been you know, I'm not even a subscriber of
this or anything.
Marc Gregoire (50:39):
Are you, Mike but ?
Ody (50:40):
I see your point of view.
Because that's their wholething.
You won't miss a second of airFootball.
Marc Gregoire (50:46):
Yeah, are you a subscriber, mike?
No, no, and neither am I.
So once again, single person'sproblem.
Ody (51:03):
No, because he does have a crash out, it's just not on air
about it.
So, Mike from a psychologicalperspective is this a?
Marc Gregoire (51:09):
third world problem.
Mike Gorday (51:13):
No, this is a fantasy football problem.
How can I grab a?
Nathan Mumm (51:16):
player quicker than anybody else if the red zone is
not showing me live content.
Mike Gorday (51:22):
Okay, all right, we've already talked about this,
we know this is going to happen, and I think the funny part
about this is that you're MrCapitalist over here.
You love making money and doingthings and things like that.
This is a capitalist strategy.
They're going to hook you in bygiving you a premium service
where it has no commercials andthen, when everybody does that
(51:44):
and they need to make more money, they're gonna add commercials
in there.
So you have to buy the nextstep up premium but there is no
next step up, it's coming.
It's coming, but there's gonnabe a premium plus.
Why do I?
I would pay and you're gonnapay.
I would pay and you're going topay.
Nathan Mumm (51:57):
I would pay for the premium plus plus, plus plus
Ody (52:00):
plus, and then that's what's going to happen.
So you're not going to bunkerdown, and oh I already
complained, I already wrote.
Nathan Mumm (52:06):
I wrote like five emails All with different email
addresses that I have, and thenoh okay.
Ody (52:12):
So it's not five from the same person.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Okay, I like that you like that.
Nathan Mumm (52:16):
See it's like multiple people are having this
issue.
Is your name in all of them Was?
Ody (52:20):
that Is your name in all of them, nathan's in all of them,
okay.
Mike Gorday (52:31):
The secondary problem to this is that we can't
get enough of a following,because we have so many things
to worry about in today'ssociety, we can't get enough of
a following to boycott this typeof behavior, so everybody just
does it.
Ody (52:42):
Yeah, do you have the will to just quit this?
Nathan Mumm (52:46):
No, no, because it's just like a drug to me.
That's right, this and.
Speaker 7 (52:50):
Rockstar are the two things that I will not get rid
of.
Mike Gorday (52:53):
Admitting is the first step to healing buddy.
Marc Gregoire (52:56):
Alright, Odie, play the music all right, let's
go to our whiskey pick wow, markmark mark you need to play the
intro of the whiskey or violinmusic, whichever one a violent
music violin, the tiny littleviolin.
Mike Gorday (53:10):
My heart bleeds for you.
I'm definitely going to addthat.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings
.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop.
Mike Gorday (53:24):
Yes, let's see what bubbles.
Marc Gregoire (53:25):
All right, gentlemen.
We have the Starward NovaSingle Malt and we have the
Whistlepig Piggyback Bourbon.
What is your choice, Nathan?
Nathan Mumm (53:32):
Oh no, I'm so worried that I may choose the
Whistlepig, but I am still goingto stay.
I absolutely liked theGlenclaren bottle, is that?
Marc Gregoire (53:43):
what it is.
Yep, mike, which one did youchoose?
Mike Gorday (53:45):
You know I like both of them, but today I really
enjoyed the Starward Nova.
Marc Gregoire (53:52):
So you're saying that's in the beer, one that's
in the beer glass.
So, mike is correct, mike'spalate is on tune.
However, nathan will be winningthis round because for me,
since you guys are split, theWhistlepig is the better yeah.
Mike Gorday (54:06):
I don't disagree with that, because the
Whistlepig is really good too.
Is Nathan's palate getting?
Marc Gregoire (54:09):
better.
No, because he picked the rightone, I don't know.
Okay, but if anything.
Ody (54:13):
This proves that he doesn't even know his palate because
he's given this a thumbs downbefore right, that's true.
Marc Gregoire (54:18):
Yeah, that's multiple times.
Mike Gorday (54:20):
So you understand, there's clues here.
Ody (54:24):
He knows how to say where's my beer in like 50 languages,
but can one argue that becausehe's not cleansing his palate in
between sips, that he's justmaking a like bad decision.
Marc Gregoire (54:39):
You thought about that no, no we'll see what he
does in the next round withwhistle pig.
I will say I gotta let ourviewers know.
And for mike that the starboardnova single mall.
I did not not pick it becauseit was bad.
It's 100 malted barley in ourcar.
Regular listeners know I do notdrink malted barley heavy
(55:00):
drinks so it didn't hit myflavor palette so I never had a
chance in this one oh for me,regardless of how it but star
word is known for very goodsingle malts with unique
finishes yeah, see, I don't knowwhat it was
Mike Gorday (55:12):
today but I think I didn't choose this one before.
But today that flavor profilereally worked for me and Odie,
to go to your point.
Marc Gregoire (55:26):
I put these two up again because I wanted Nathan
to choose one, because he'salways said he hates Whistlepig
and the other one is finished inwine barrels and he hates,
hates wine.
Ody (55:34):
And he hates anything finished in wine too, and he's
always bagged on that.
So it's like the lesser of twoevils.
Nathan Mumm (55:40):
All right team.
We're about out of time, yeah.
Mike Gorday (55:43):
This was a get Nathan one.
I love it.
Nathan Mumm (55:45):
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Welcome everyone.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Let's start today's show.
Nathan Mumm (01:42):
Now on today's show .
All right, today on the show,we have Gwen way back with our
gadgets and gear segment.
We got Mark Zuckerberg, disneyand Duolingo all in hot water,
and more.
In addition to that, we haveour standard features, including
Mike's mesmerizing moment, ourtechnology fail of the week and
a possible Nathan Nugget More ofa rant, and, of course, our
pick of the day whiskey tastingto see if our selected whiskey
(02:04):
pick gets zero, one or twothumbs up by the end of the show
.
Now, though, it's time for thelatest headlines in the world of
technology.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Here are our top technology stories of the week.
Nathan Mumm (02:16):
All right, google's told to pay $425 million in a
privacy lawsuit.
Let's go to Lisa Walker formore on this story.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
A US federal court has told Google to pay $425
million for breaching users'privacy by collecting data from
millions of users even afterthey had turned off a tracking
feature in their Google accounts.
The verdict comes after a groupof users brought the case,
claiming Google accessed users'mobile devices to collect, save
(02:49):
and use their data in violationof privacy assurances in its web
and app activity setting.
A Google spokesperson said inresponse this decision
misunderstands how our productswork and we will appeal it.
Our privacy tools give peoplecontrol over their data, and
when they turn offpersonalization, do they honor
(03:09):
that choice?
Nathan Mumm (03:16):
Well, the jury seems to have a different
opinion.
The jury in the case found theInternet search giant liable on
two of the three claims ofprivacy violation, but said that
the firm had not acted withmalice.
Now the attorneys that sued areobviously very pleased with the
(03:37):
verdict.
They said In the return.
David Boies, an attorney forthe users that sued against them
, said in the class actionlawsuit them said in the class
action lawsuit Google'scollection practices extend to
hundreds of thousands ofsmartphone apps, including those
for ride hailing, companieslike Uber and Lyft, e-commerce
giants like Alibaba, amazon andMeta, social networks, instagram
(03:58):
and Facebook.
Now Google says that when usersturn off web and app activity on
their accounts.
Now Google says that when usersturn off web and app activity
on their accounts, businessesusing the Google Analytics may
still collect data about theiruse of sites and apps, but that
this information does notidentify individual users and
respects their privacy choices.
So let's talk about that, mikenot collecting individual user
(04:22):
data.
But that is still collectingthe data, even though so I as a
user has gone in to the settingsfor the web activity and I said
I do not want to be tracked.
But if I use uber, lyft,alabama, amazon or any of the
other meta facebooks.
Google says that it's stillgoing to track me.
It's just not going to put themy username and my password or
(04:44):
my information on what's goingon.
So let's do a profile of a manover 50, blah, blah, blah, blah
blah, but won't actually trackmy information.
That's still collecting thedata, though, isn't that?
I mean?
I said I don't want them tocollect it.
They're collecting it, sure,why not?
right so so should google beable to do that?
I mean that's kind of likecircumventing.
I mean that's clearly why theylost the lawsuit right $425
(05:09):
million they lose, so that can'tbe that they're actually doing
anything.
Mike Gorday (05:13):
It's funny when you come down on one side of an
argument, then like two weekslater you're on the other side
of that argument.
Ody (05:20):
Well, this is Wait.
When was he opposing for usernot having privacy?
Mike Gorday (05:27):
This is just part of this greater conversation
about how he's okay with Chinastealing our data.
Well, that's.
Gwen Way (05:32):
China.
Mike Gorday (05:33):
And then he's yelling at Google for stealing
our data.
Nathan Mumm (05:36):
TikTok says they're stealing your data.
Mike Gorday (05:38):
Tiktok never hides it, oh as long as they're being
honest about it.
Nathan Mumm (05:43):
Okay, I missed that part.
Okay, so if I opt out In TikTok, I have no way to opt out from
them tracking me.
If I use TikTok, they'retracking me we have known this
forever, though.
Okay, we have, and we've talkedabout this for six plus years.
Mike Gorday (05:55):
The fact that they're finally getting busted
for it.
That shouldn't be a surprise$425 million.
Nathan Mumm (06:05):
Now, who of that money?
I'm not seeing any of thatmoney.
Do I have to do a class action?
Mike Gorday (06:07):
lawsuit against them too.
Nathan Mumm (06:08):
If, if you did a class action lawsuit for google
and they won, you would get twobucks and I've signed up for a
couple of these class actionstuff and then you know what
happens is when you actually getpaid from the class action,
then I lose all ability to thensue them at any later time.
Speaker 7 (06:22):
So actually for, like the two, the $2 you get back,
then they actually get saved.
Mike Gorday (06:25):
It really is $425 million, really that much for
Google to pay out.
Nathan Mumm (06:29):
I don't know, and I don't know if they ever, really
ever, pay out these fines.
There's no way you can stay inbusiness with all these fines,
billions and billions of dollarsof fines that get paid off.
Mike Gorday (06:37):
Well, I might disagree with you on that.
But hey, We'll talk about thatlater.
Nathan Mumm (06:41):
All right, sounds good.
Well, guess what?
Google's also very happybecause, separately this week,
google shares rose by more than9% on Wednesday of last week
after the US federal judge ruledthat it will not have to sell
its Chrome web browser, but mustshare information with
competitors.
Yeah, tell me how easy that'sgoing to be.
So Google gets to keep Chrome,and now their penalty is that
(07:03):
they have to share the userswith the competitors.
If I call up when I'm the bravebrowser and I say, hey, I want
to grab your data, you thinkthat Google is going to give
that data away?
It's going to be the easiestthing in the world.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
That is going to be like a lawsuit.
Nathan Mumm (07:17):
That's going to be well, hang on.
We're going to transfer youover to customer support agent
27.
And then 27 will be like.
You know what?
I don't have the ability to dothat yeah so the next manager,
that manager will be out onpaternity leave and then that
person won't get back to you forsix months.
And then, when they get back toyou six months, it'll be oh,
that person's no longer here.
Now that this person came back,I'm now taking over the account
(07:38):
and I need to do a whole review.
Oh my gosh, oh my goodness allright, right, today's decision.
Mike Gorday (07:44):
Today is Nathan grumpy day, nathan's grumpy and
Mike is less grumpy.
Nathan Mumm (07:51):
Nathan is going to go all the way to the Nathan
nugget.
We'll see if we make it all theway there.
I am grumpy.
All right, you know what, mike.
Turn our grumpiness around withstory number two.
Mike Gorday (08:00):
I don't know how this is going to turn it around,
but I don't know how this isgoing to turn it around.
But hey, you know, markZuckerberg's back in the news
and we love it when Mark is inthe news.
He's our favorite person.
Nathan Mumm (08:07):
Yeah, we have an Elon Musk.
Actually, we have so manyfavorites.
Mike Gorday (08:10):
Yeah, we love them all.
Bezos Okay, this is just onemore activity of the billionaire
boys club here.
Okay, so why isn't Zuckerbergin the news?
Well, this is coming out ofCrescent Park in Silicon
Valley's Palo Alto, which isconsidered a once quiet
(08:34):
neighborly enclave.
Oh, no, okay I don't know whyrich people think this way, but
hey, mark is snatching upproperties and engaging in
massive disruptive constructionprojects, which the folks of the
neighborhood are claiming he'sjust finding loopholes around
local zoning laws and ordinances.
(08:54):
Uh, it doesn't surprise me.
He is purchased 11 propertiesin this neighborhood in order to
amass the land necessary for amassive compound.
Oh boy, paying out at least 110million in the process you know
what?
Nathan Mumm (09:08):
I worked for a uh, a billionaire that did exactly
this in mercer island inwashington.
Mike Gorday (09:14):
So this is very this is just I know how this is
a billionaire thing yep, well,in order, in order to do all
this, he is engaged in massive,disrupt, disrupting construction
projects, which is reallybothering his neighbors, okay,
as a result of all this stuff.
Oh, and also, yeah, he hassecurity cameras pointed at
(09:37):
their properties, okay, andsecurity guards that harass them
while they're walking on publicwalkways.
Nathan Mumm (09:42):
What they can't do, that they can't harass them
while they're walking on publicwalkways.
What they can't do?
That they can't harass them onpublic areas.
Mike Gorday (09:45):
Well, Peter Balte, a local resident who sat on the
city's review board, saidmembers of Zuckerberg's security
force confronted him while hewas reviewing a potential
project site from a public space.
According to Balte, a securityguard questioned him while he
was standing on the sidewalk andhe said hey, I'm standing on
the sidewalk looking at thisproject.
And they told him hey, we'dappreciate it if you could move
(10:13):
on, okay.
Nathan Mumm (10:13):
And he said well, this is a public sidewalk, yep
you can't shut public sidewalksdown.
Mike Gorday (10:16):
Well, a spokesperson for zuckerberg
assured the times that themulti-billionaire cares about
his neighbors and has remainedin compliance with local rules
and regulations.
The facts suggest otherwise.
Okay, and top it off.
This is what I love here, totop it off in response to all
his neighbors complaints aboutthe noise and everything.
Guess what he did.
(10:36):
What did he do?
Nathan Mumm (10:38):
he gave them a bunch of money nope, he gave
them all noise-cancelingheadphones.
Are you kidding me?
Yeah so he's causing a problemand his solution is when people
are saying it's too loud.
He wants his neighbors now towalk around with headphones on
all the time that arenoise-canceling.
Mike Gorday (10:59):
That's what he did.
He's a very generous guy.
Nathan Mumm (11:01):
Mark, were they some knockoff version of noise
canceling?
I have no idea I don't know.
Mike Gorday (11:10):
It doesn't say what that is.
Nathan Mumm (11:11):
You know these billionaires when they build
these complexes.
This is just crazy.
I did work for an individual,one of the co-founders of
Microsoft.
He's since passed away.
Mike Gorday (11:21):
Yeah, you can say his name Paul Allen.
Nathan Mumm (11:24):
Yeah, you can say that.
Okay.
So I worked with him in hiswhole compound.
He purchased many houses and soyou would enter in at a certain
uh, top of the hill, and thenhe would have to go all the way
around.
It was kind of like a um, whatdo you want to say?
A maze of roads that allinterconnected all the houses
together until you got to thebig mansion, and then you would
(11:45):
kind of loop around and go backout yeah, you know, you know
what I want to see.
Mike Gorday (11:49):
I want to see a movie of the guy that's the
holdout.
He's got the, he's got the oneproperty in the middle of all
these other properties.
Well, there was there won'tsell it.
Nathan Mumm (11:57):
So guess what happens most of the time?
These billionaires will go tothe city and ask for eminent
domain and they'll pay thepeople off to say that they need
to do that.
I have seen that firsthand,where somebody will have a house
and they're not willing to sellit, and what will happen is the
city will intervene and come onin and say, hey, we really need
you to do this, here's whatwe're going to do, here's your
assessed value.
And then normally thebillionaire says well, this is
(12:18):
the assessed value, I'll pay youa little bit more and and boom,
it gets happened.
Mike Gorday (12:22):
All right, well, well, that's, that's what Mark's
up to today, all right.
Nathan Mumm (12:26):
Well, let me just tell you what Disney is up to.
Well, disney has to pay $10million to settle claims it
collected data on YouTube aboutkids.
Kids that should not be.
It's all about data collection.
Disney will pay $10 million tosettle claims by the US Federal
Trade Commission that itmislabeled videos for children
(12:46):
on youtube, which allowed thecollection of kids personal
information without theirconsent or notification to their
parents.
This occurred after theentertainment giant failed to
tag kid directed videos onyoutube as made for kids.
This is the easiest.
We post youtube videos all thetime.
There is no way.
If you're posting a youtubevideo that you do not understand
(13:07):
what the made for kids label is, it comes on out with
instructions that you have toclick away from to make sure
that you're not doing this.
So that this is not a simpleyeah, but what if?
Mike Gorday (13:16):
what are the chances that this is?
This was some intern doing?
Nathan Mumm (13:21):
no, no, there's no way.
No, no, no.
So hang on, it gets even worse,so okay this is stealing the
kids information, datacollection, and it's required.
Since 2019, youtube has had thetag for videos made for kids
mfk, when google and youtubepaid 100 fml that's right.
(13:43):
when google and youtube paid 170million million to settle
claims that they violated this,which required websites, online
services and apps to notifyparents and obtain parent
consent before collectingpersonal information from
children under 13, they sent outa massive email to every one of
their providers.
However, according to thecomplaint, disney has marked all
(14:04):
videos uploaded on YouTube asMFK at the channel's level,
which has led to each videobeing incorrectly tagged as not
made for children.
So, instead of doing made forchildren, they tagged each one
of them incorrectly.
Disney also failed tocorrectively designate
child-focused content, despiteYouTube.
Youtube went in and alerted theentertainment child uh giant
(14:27):
that it has switched labels in2020 for over 300 disney videos
and they changed them, forthey're not made for kids to
made for kid, including somewith music and visual content
for the incredibles, coco toystory, frozen and mic Mouse.
So YouTube went through andmanually changed 300 of them and
then continuously sent emailsto Disney saying, hey, knock it
(14:51):
off, do it the correct way.
Mike Gorday (14:53):
Okay, if you're Disney, are you really going to
have YouTube tell you what to do?
Well, like.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
YouTube no, because it'd be like hey Disney.
Mike Gorday (15:05):
No, because Disney you need to do something.
This way, disney's like hey, weown everything, no, disney
received.
Nathan Mumm (15:11):
A portion of the revenues that YouTube generates
from the advertising is placedby Disney videos and revenues
from advertising that Disneysells directly, so Disney
profited off this.
So what YouTube should do is goback and take that money.
Youtube shouldn't be payingthem out money if they're
incorrectly labeling them.
Yeah, you know what we?
Mike Gorday (15:27):
should just all do.
What's that?
We should just all just giveout our information to everybody
.
Okay, and then shut up.
Nathan Mumm (15:35):
Well, we do that.
We do that with our transunionbreaches.
It's already out there.
Mike Gorday (15:40):
I don't know why I don't know why we keep whining
about it, because it's alreadyout there and you know
everybody's upset about disneydoing this and youtube doing
that and google and blah, blahblah.
Why don't we just just eitherstop using the internet, okay,
or just stop?
Nathan Mumm (15:59):
complaining about it.
Okay, in the In the settlementit says that required Disney to
notify parents before collectingkids personal information and
to implement a new programdesigned to ensure the videos
posted on YouTube are designatedas made for kids.
Okay, how do you do that?
I don't know.
So clearly they can't followthe directions of just hitting a
checkbox.
It is literally a checkbox onhow you post videos.
(16:22):
They can't do that.
But now, as a penalty, they'regoing to need to come up with a
way to notify parents that if,when you click on a YouTube, if
somebody is under the agewatching it, so now they're
going to have to have access toyour camera to see how old the
person is that's watching yourYouTube videos, to then say,
oops, you shouldn't be watching.
Okay, grumpy Nathan.
Mike Gorday (16:39):
Put your soapbox away, let's move on.
Nathan Mumm (16:42):
That ends our top technology stories of the week.
Moving on, I'm sure we'll havesome great gadgets and gear
coming on up here from Gwen Way.
She's going to be joining us inour next segment, so buckle up
as we drive 88 miles per hourinto our next segment after this
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Hurry up, mark.
Welcome back to Tech Time withNathan Mumm.
Our weekly show covers the toptechnology subjects without any
political agenda.
We verify the facts, we do itwith a sense of humor, in less
than 60 minutes and, of course,with a little whiskey on the
side.
Today, mark Gregoire, whiskeyConnoisseurs and Studio Wow.
It's been like seven and a halfmonths since.
Marc Gregoire (18:06):
I've seen you.
How are you doing, at least fortoday?
Nathan Mumm (18:10):
I'm sure you're going to make a commitment to be
on the show for the next sixweeks in a row, right, no?
Marc Gregoire (18:16):
Okay, I have a life.
Okay, well, I'm glad you'rehere today.
He's secretly Mark Zuckerberg.
Nathan Mumm (18:20):
Yeah, that's right.
He wouldn't be secret aboutthat.
I think he'd just be like yeah.
I'm building a big house.
Marc Gregoire (18:26):
All right Mark, yes, what have you chosen for us
today?
Well, today is the 2024 FlavorAdvent Calendar.
Okay, we are doing 24remarkable whiskeys used for our
year-long blind whiskeycompetition to see which one
Nathan and Mike like best.
So come along for the ride onceevery month while they uncover
new tastes and train theirsenses to become true
(18:47):
connoisseurs.
Of course, listen to the show.
The last few weeks, I'm stillnot sure on Nathan.
Mike Gorday (18:52):
Now, I think that's relatively obvious.
What do you mean?
What do you mean I?
Nathan Mumm (18:56):
think I've been pretty fair, remus.
Marc Gregoire (18:59):
I didn't like that at all.
I did not like that I have tolike everything that you sent to
us everything good, okay, well.
Well, today is the third, yeahand final battle in round two,
where you will choose yourwinner to move on to the next
round, which will be the semis,if you disagree on the deciding
vote now.
(19:20):
Today's blind battle is a clashof opposites.
Uh-oh, that actually sharessome surprising ground.
On one side we have a younger,wine-barrel age world traveler
with a softer proof, bringingbright notes and a fresh take on
tradition.
On the other, a bolder, olderAmerican classic with higher
(19:40):
proof, leaning into rich depthand spice.
One's hails from far overseas,the other from our own backyard.
Different styles, differentages, but both aiming to prove
they can punch above theirweight in the glass.
So stay tuned to see which onewins out and advances from this
round to the semis.
Okay Well.
Nathan Mumm (20:00):
I know that Mike and I already had a little bit
of a different opinions to startout.
So we don't want mark choosing,do we?
Because he always chooses whatyou do.
Mike Gorday (20:07):
So I gotta convince you oh okay, yeah, let's, let's
do it.
Let's do it like that, so hecan choose what you do, that's
right, okay, wow, thank you mark.
Marc Gregoire (20:15):
Don't forget to like and subscribe, add those
comments in there and foreverdrink responsibly.
Nathan Mumm (20:20):
Heaven can wait, that's perfect all you know, I
got a new tagline tonight.
I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Science of tomorrow starts with the knowledge of
today.
Nathan Mumm (20:29):
Alright, with our whiskey tasting completed, let's
move on to our feature segment.
Today we have Gwen Way joiningthe show.
She's an expert in cybersecurity during the day and a
game board geek in the evening,as well as producer of Tech Time
Radio and, of course, ourGadgets and Gear Gal.
Let's get ready to start ourComcast video stream to start
(20:51):
this next segment what's new inour Gadgets and Gear All right,
welcome back to the show, gwen.
Gwen Way (20:58):
Tell us a little bit about yourself for new listeners
.
Well, with over a quarter of acentury in technology experience
, uh, I've seen everything fromwindows 98 all the way up
through 11.
Nathan Mumm (21:10):
So here we go, here we go, okay, well, glad to have
you a part of our group.
You know, gwen I think I waslooking back so we've known each
other for like 10 plus years,12 plus years, I mean it's there
abouts yeah, it's good, it'sbeen a while.
It's been a while.
That's fantastic.
You know what.
Nothing's better than knowinggwen.
It makes me so excited.
You know what?
I'll tell you.
I was at her wedding and of allthe weddings I've ever attended
in my life, her wedding was thebest you.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
You got like it was.
She did it at a zoo, we knowthis story like 80, 80, 80 times
you've heard this haven't you.
Nathan Mumm (21:40):
It is not changing opinion.
It was the best wedding thatI've ever been to.
Alright, Gwen, let's talk aboutit.
Mike Gorday (21:45):
I hope your children don't hear this.
Nathan Mumm (21:47):
I already told them .
I told them both, I told themboth right in front of them.
Okay.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
I said that they both at their weddings.
Nathan Mumm (21:52):
Yes, yeah, your wedding sucks, your wedding
sucks.
Gwen Way (21:56):
This was cool and all, but let me talk for a minute.
Mike Gorday (22:00):
You should have done like Gwen did and had it at
a zoo, All right.
Gwen Way (22:06):
Gwen, tell us a little bit about your project.
Well, this is going to be aninteresting one for this month.
It is a dash cam, which makes acertain amount of sense as we
go back to school and have olderchildren driving.
We want to keep an eye on them,don't we?
Nathan Mumm (22:21):
We sure do, absolutely.
I do have a dash cam in my carright now, so I got to see if
this is one that will make mechange what's that Never?
Mike Gorday (22:29):
mind.
What's the matter?
I was under the impression thatWashington doesn't let you use
dash cams.
Nathan Mumm (22:36):
Well, I don't think you're supposed to.
Ody (22:38):
No, that's not what it was at all, if you were paying
attention.
Mike Gorday (22:42):
I'm too poor to pay attention.
What are you talking about?
Ody (22:44):
If it's blocking your field of sight.
Nathan Mumm (22:47):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, odie, so it has
to be not huge.
Ody (22:52):
Yes, exactly.
Mike Gorday (22:53):
It can't be blocking, I can't have a huge
video cam.
Nathan Mumm (22:55):
No, you can't have a huge video cam.
Okay, well's great about this.
I'm sure it's probably infraredand everything else.
Gwen Way (23:05):
Tell us it is in fact, so.
This dash cam is on kickstarter, uh, the name of the project is
this track vis for visiont-r-a-k.
Uh, and it is touting itself asthe smallest four-channel dash
cam with night vision.
So basically, what this does,is it not only records in 2K in
(23:30):
front of you, it's got 180p onboth sides and the rear and
includes a night cam so that youcan keep track of everything at
night.
Nathan Mumm (23:40):
Okay, all right, so it's the VizTrack.
Keep track of everything atnight?
Okay, all right, so it's theVizTrack.
Now what are the features of itthat make it better than a
standard dash cam?
Because I have a standard dashcam.
What features on here make thisso much different than the
other dash cams?
Gwen Way (23:57):
Well, there are a couple of different things.
Nathan Mumm (23:59):
It's got a cool name.
It does have a cool name, itdoes have a cool name.
Gwen Way (24:03):
It's also smaller than most dash cams so you get
around the whole.
It's too big for Washingtonstate.
It's got the four channels allbuilt in, including the night
vision.
The side cameras actually willrotate so you're able to see the
entire 180 degrees on bothsides and you can loop
recordings if you need to.
(24:24):
Those are all pretty big things.
You also have a wifi control soyou can set it up when you get
home.
Nathan Mumm (24:31):
All right, well, tell me the stats of this.
Tell me how many backers, wherethe company's located, how many
pledges and the unit cost.
Gwen Way (24:40):
Yep, so it is out of Santa Clara, california.
There are currently 484 backerswith about a week to go and
they have brought in $46,000 atthis point.
Nathan Mumm (24:55):
Okay, so now we talked about this a little bit
at the production meeting andI've done some research on this
company.
Now, many things on Kickstarteryou need to be careful of right
, so you got to be careful ofthings on kickstarter.
I'm not feeling verycomfortable with this item as
backing, so I've been fooledbefore on kickstarter and this
(25:18):
has me a bit concerned.
How many times probably threeor four times that I've actually
found Three or four.
Yeah, Sounds like it's been likewell you know what, maybe
overall it's been maybe 10throughout the whole time of my
type of deal.
Ody (25:32):
Only 10?
.
Nathan Mumm (25:34):
So yeah, and sometimes I can get it back.
Mike Gorday (25:37):
Sometimes I can get it back by the credit card
company.
Nathan Mumm (25:40):
He just wants to look good.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
So let me ask you that.
So, so here's my first thingI'm looking at it and the red
flags start picking up, so Iwatched the video.
Right, the video that's onthere and the video is has some
stock image footage in it, so II don't like stock footage.
When I see in there, I seepeople walking around and I see
(26:01):
big aerial shots of a city, andthose are all free video clips
that you can grab on theinternet roll.
Yeah, so it's b-roll, that islike high-end b-roll, so that's
my first thing is that almostthe entire video is b-roll it is
, so it all looks b-roll.
I see just the device on there acouple times and and the device
that I see is is kind of alittle bit of a blurry version
(26:23):
of this the, the close-upversion that they have, like the
still shot of this, looks likeit's been imposed with a much
nicer device than the one I see.
My next thing that goes up forthe flags is that it only needed
a thousand dollars as a goal.
So so kickstarters, normallywhen you do this so the visit
track, if this is a brand newcamera you're telling me that as
(26:45):
soon as $1,000 is raised,you're willing to build this
type of device.
So that scares me immensely,because normally the pledge
goals are $5,000.
At least that I get $10,000.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
It's a hustle.
Nathan Mumm (27:00):
So this gives me a little bit of concern.
And then Gwen help me out.
Here I go and I take a look atthe comments, right?
So there's 22 comments on here,and when I look at it I see the
creator responding, and thenwhat I see is this person has
canceled their pledge.
Then I see a question in thereand I says this person has
canceled their pledge.
And then I go on in here andsays this person has canceled
(27:21):
his pledge.
I'm scrolling through on themain site right now, just
scrolling down actively, and Isee at least 10 people that at
one time had pledged money forthis project that have pulled it
back.
Because what can happen beforethe item closes?
What are you allowed to do as aKickstarter?
Tell everybody.
Gwen Way (27:41):
You're able to actually back out your pledge
and cancel it, but you cannot dothat officially after it's
completed.
Nathan Mumm (27:49):
So now I've seen all these people that are
deserting the pledge numbers.
I don't know if the pledgenumbers go down or up after
they've pledged the money andthey cancel.
I don't know that system of howit works.
I actually spent a lot of timetrying to find that out through
an ai search and through, justuh, viewing the terms and
conditions with kickstarter, andit doesn't say what happens
with that.
(28:10):
So, um, it makes me have someconcern about that.
Also, the faq is is not?
Um, it looks like.
Is it difficult to install it?
It talks about this back camera, which is a cable.
Mike Gorday (28:24):
Or maybe I should be wearing my don't click on
stuff hat.
Gwen Way (28:28):
That is absolutely the hat you should be wearing.
Should I be comfortable?
Nathan Mumm (28:33):
Okay, should I be comfortable with this device or
should I have some warning flags?
Tell us, what should I be doingwhen I look at all this stuff?
Gwen Way (28:41):
Personally, I think that this particular product is
full of warning flags.
Everybody should be taking noteof the things that Nathan has
mentioned, because these aregood things to keep an eye on.
If you're just kind ofwandering around Kickstarter
looking at different products,you want to make sure that you
don't see a lot of this.
(29:03):
Creator has canceled theirpledge in the comments.
You want to make sure that whenthey're actually giving you a
video, it's a video of theproduct as it appears in the
Kickstarter and is not mostlyB-roll.
So everybody who's actuallymaking these products, what they
generally will do is make oneor two proof of concepts, and
(29:28):
those proof of concept piecesare what they use in the videos
so that you could actually seewhat the project is going to end
up looking like and what it'sgoing to do.
Obviously, there are sometweaks that go on during the
manufacturing process but itshould be fairly similar between
(29:49):
plan and video.
Nathan Mumm (29:50):
Okay, so this is actually an educational piece
for everybody that's listening.
So this Kickstarter project iscalled what again, gwen?
Gwen Way (29:56):
It's called Vistrak V-I-S-T-R-A-K.
Mike Gorday (30:00):
Otherwise don't get this one.
Gwen Way (30:02):
Exactly.
I fully support everybodyactually going to Kickstarter
though, taking a look at it andkind of seeing some of the
warning signs that we touched ontoday, just to educate yourself
going forward, so that you canpick the best and brightest
projects that you want topurchase.
Nathan Mumm (30:19):
All right.
So we always ask this questionAre you going to be getting a
unit?
I am not, definitely not, and Idon't think I will be either.
All right, gwen, thank you somuch.
Tell everybody a little bitabout how they can connect with
you if they want to submit agadget to you.
Where would they go and say,hey, gwen, I found this great
gadget.
How can they submit that to you?
Gwen Way (30:39):
Best place to do that is actually on Mr Zuckerberg's
Facebook, since we were talkingabout him earlier.
You can go there and find theTech Time group and send me a
message there.
Nathan Mumm (30:52):
Perfect, gwen.
Thank you so much.
What did you think of that?
Mike Gorday (30:55):
Mike, what About the thing?
Nathan Mumm (30:58):
or the.
Zuckerberg thing About theZuckerberg thing About this unit
.
Would you like one of theseunits?
Mike Gorday (31:05):
No, I don't have one in my.
Nathan Mumm (31:07):
I don't have one.
Mike Gorday (31:09):
I don't want one, I don't need one.
Nathan Mumm (31:10):
Okay.
Well, we thank Gwen so much forbeing a part of the show.
She does a great job of findingthe most unique items each
month.
For our show.
This item was really unique anda great concept, but we
actually spent the time to showyou warning signs of what to
stay away from.
Maybe I should get one for mymotorcycle oh, there you go.
All right.
Now let's move on to mike'smesmerizing moment.
(31:31):
Welcome to mike's mesmerizingmoment.
What does mike have to saytoday?
All right, grumpy nathan saysmike, why do we have so many
companies paying out lawsuits?
Is it the nature for humans tosue all the time now?
Mike Gorday (31:49):
wow, that's a.
That's a really complicatedquestion.
Well, yes, yes, okay okay, uh,if you have not lived under a
rock here in america.
Uh, lawsuits are crazy.
That's a whole industry in andof itself.
Okay, we have been doing itsince the mcdonald's thing the
(32:12):
hot coffee the hot coffee atmcdonald's, okay.
Secondly, why are they payingout fines?
Well, they have to.
It's it's, it's part of a legaljudgment, but there's probably
a little bit of an additionalthing here, because you would
think that it would teach themto be better yeah but actually
(32:33):
you know the fines don't amountto much in the greater pot that
they're pulling from.
So would you rather if you werean owner of this big business,
right, and you were makingoodles of money, but you were
doing things wrong and peopletook you to court and you had to
(32:54):
pay a fine?
That is much less than what youwould have to do to actually
change your business strategy.
What would you do?
Nathan Mumm (33:04):
I guess you'd pay the fine, wouldn't you?
This goes all the way back tothe car manufacturing, when they
had that blinker issue in Fordand stuff like that.
Remember, they knew that thisblinker issue could cause an
issue and they said, well, justwait and pay the fines, because
it's much easier than repairingit.
Mike Gorday (33:18):
It's much easier to pay the fines than to repair
the problem.
So, um, yeah, I think that'spretty, pretty well known.
Okay, so there you go.
All right, we, we, we just liketo sue people we like to sue
people.
Nathan Mumm (33:36):
All right.
Mike Gorday (33:37):
I'm going to go down and sue somebody randomly
later on today, okay.
Ody (33:41):
We know that that is pretty standard for the US.
Do we think that that alsoapplies to the EU and other
countries around the world?
Mike Gorday (33:51):
I don't know.
That's a good question.
It depends on how they monitorand manage their government and
uh business not italy.
Ody (34:01):
They'll just off you in the middle of the corner if you
start complaining right forexample, privacy laws are so
much more strict over in the euespecially uh gdp.
Nathan Mumm (34:12):
So do you think that they?
Ody (34:13):
could get away with like oh , here's just a couple chum
change for you guys.
Mike Gorday (34:19):
I think they might, because, as the globalization
of capitalism continues, we'llsee a lot more of this stuff
going on in other countries,especially as they move towards
a society that's built off ofthis.
Nathan Mumm (34:36):
Okay, all right, let's move on.
Move on, mike.
Thank you so much yeah, foryour you sound really you sound
really mesmerized.
Mike Gorday (34:45):
Are you excited?
You know what?
Ody (34:46):
I was mesmerized mike, even though I knew that americans
are too happy.
Mike Gorday (34:51):
You've only been up for a couple of hours, so wow,
all right, thank you for her.
Nathan Mumm (34:56):
Your mesmerizing moment.
Up next we have this week intechnology, so now would be a
great time to enjoy.
He's making fun of yoursleeping habits.
A little whiskey on the side,as we'll be doing so during the
break.
You're listening to tech timeradio with nathan.
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And now let's look back at this week in technology.
Nathan Mumm (36:21):
All right, we're going back to September 14th
1956.
The IBM 350 disk storage unitmodel one was released.
Now the IBM 350 disk storageunit was announced, which was
the first commercial storageunit to use a magnetic disk for
storage.
The technology behind the harddrive was established because of
(36:41):
the 350 disk storage unit.
About the size of tworefrigerators and weighing in at
one ton, the 350 could bestored for about four to five
megabytes of data at a time,depending on how it was
calculated.
Now the 350 would be anintegral part of the ibm ram mac
305 computer which would beintroduced nine days later on
(37:02):
september 13th.
The ram mac 305 and the 350disk storage unit were designed
to replace the punch card tubefile system that was the primary
means of storing repetitiveaccess data previously.
Now that was this week intechnology.
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When pigs can fly day.
Nathan Mumm (38:25):
Oh, you know what?
No, what do I know?
I think you've had this onbefore.
No, I looked it up, are yousure?
Marc Gregoire (38:32):
I thought so too.
Nathan Mumm (38:34):
We had a flying cow before oh it was a flying cow,
not flying pig.
Marc Gregoire (38:38):
We love our national days of flying animals.
Okay, or tell me more Now.
This is a once a year reminderthat the impossible actually
does happen.
Some call it hope, others callit a miracle.
We call it a Tuesday at TechTime Radio, because if pigs can
fly, then you better believe.
Your gadgets can crash, yourwhiskey glass can refill itself
(38:59):
and Nathan and Mike mightfinally agree and be right about
something.
Nathan Mumm (39:03):
Oh wow, I don't know about that.
Still, I just felt a backhandedcompliment.
You're right about something.
Marc Gregoire (39:10):
Okay Now, since it's National when Pigs Can Fly
Day, and honestly, pigs flying.
Nathan Mumm (39:15):
Who created?
Marc Gregoire (39:15):
this holiday.
Mike Gorday (39:17):
Shouldn't it be National Impossible Day or
National Pigs Can Fly Day?
Who's the?
Nathan Mumm (39:22):
guy that writes in and says we're going to create
this day national.
Ody (39:26):
If you would let Mark finish he'll give you the
history.
Marc Gregoire (39:30):
I do not do the history.
Ody (39:31):
You know what it is.
Mike Gorday (39:33):
That's the guy where they're coming up with
days to talk about.
He's the one that they'recoming up with days to talk
about.
He's the one that's in thecorner going yeah, when pigs fly
, that'll happen.
And then they all say that.
Marc Gregoire (39:43):
And then they go hey, we need to make a day out
of that.
Okay, all right, I do believeit's a recent national holiday.
Nathan Mumm (39:48):
It's a recent one.
Okay, now Did the Trumpadministration put it in?
No, everybody laughed at that.
Marc Gregoire (39:56):
Now, with National Pigs Can Fly Day,
honestly honestly, nathan, pigsflying might make more sense
than these bottles going head tohead.
Okay, on one side, straight outof Australia, we have Starward
Nova, the young world traveler,strutting in a wine barrel.
Actually, I have a bottle ofthat on my deal, okay.
(40:17):
In the other corner fromVermont, the Big Boulder Bruiser
Nathan's favorite Whistle Pig,piggyback bourbon oh, I hate
Whistle Pig.
Nathan Mumm (40:26):
You do.
Marc Gregoire (40:27):
I hate Whistle Pig and you like both of these.
Nathan Mumm (40:29):
And I liked both of these.
I'm not a big Whistle Pig fan,so I hope that it's not.
Mike Gorday (40:34):
Whistle Pig, I guess the blind taste test
doesn't work on you real well.
Nathan Mumm (40:39):
No, there's one here that I finished.
I was very happy to finish andthere's one here that I'm
struggling with.
This is the third time youthink so.
Marc Gregoire (40:46):
No, this is the second time we've done
Whistlepig.
You hated it last time and Ipicked it with Mike.
Nathan Mumm (40:50):
You did.
Mike Gorday (40:51):
That's the Whistlepig you're liking right
there.
Nathan Mumm (40:54):
That's exactly why that's there.
That's exactly why that's there.
Marc Gregoire (40:58):
So let's remind the viewers about these two the
Starward Nova, single Malt.
It's from New World Distilleryin Australia.
It's aged three years, 82 proof, 100% malted barley, but aged
in wine barrels $40.
The Whistlepig PiggybackBourbon is from Vermont.
It's six years, 100 proof, mashbill is undisclosed and it's
(41:21):
$57.
Nathan Mumm (41:22):
All right, so you're liking the Whistlepig huh
, you think I don't know, Idon't know, I don't think it's
the Whistlepig that I like.
Mike Gorday (41:29):
Yes it's the Whistlepig.
You think so.
Yes, I don't know.
All right, yes, because I cantaste the wine in the other one.
Nathan Mumm (41:35):
You can taste the wine in the other one.
This one has wine in it, yeahit was aged in wine barrels,
dude oh.
Marc Gregoire (41:40):
I'm going to say this is a big question mark
which one of the two is becominga connoisseur, because they're
quite a bit different opinions.
All right, okay.
Well, where's your?
Ody (41:50):
money, odie On who's becoming a connoisseur.
Yes, oh, mike.
Marc Gregoire (41:55):
Okay, is that even a test?
Stay tuned till the end.
Ody (42:01):
Nathan doesn't even know what he does and doesn't like,
but we love Nathan, I'm nothating.
Nathan Mumm (42:07):
I get you, I get you Thanks a lot.
Well, that's because we love tohate on him.
That's right.
Whiskey and technology are sucha great pairing, like the NFL
start of the season and fantasyfootball.
Ody (42:18):
Woo, okay, that was a good pairing.
Thank you very much.
Wait a minute.
Facebook posts.
Odie, are you any fantasyfootball?
No, you know, I thought aboutgetting into it.
This year, though, mike is a no, I'm a.
Marc Gregoire (42:29):
no, I don't know if that was a good pairing for
this group.
Nathan Mumm (42:31):
Really, there's three out of four.
I'm in 25 different leaguesMost people are in 3-4 leagues.
I make up for all of you guys.
You talk about this as much asyou talk about Gwen's wedding,
that's right, they should alwayshave a wedding at a freaking
zoo or you do various football.
(42:52):
That's right Now, let's move onto prepare for our technology
fail of the week.
Speaker 7 (43:00):
Congratulations, you're a failure.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Oh, I failed.
Did I yes, did I yes.
Nathan Mumm (43:08):
All right.
This week our technology failcomes to us from Duolingo, the
language learning app that nowjust might be running on all AI
app that now just might berunning on all AI.
Duolingo, the language learningapp, apologized in an ex post
for calling author JK Rowlingmean in a German lesson.
They issued an apology thatsaid we apologize for the
(43:29):
offensive that was caused and wewill remove this content from
the app.
Duolingo said in response to anAugust 19th ex-post from Gabby
Coppel, a writer and TV producer, who said she was learning
German and came across thesentence that says yes, I like
Harry Potter, but the author ismean, isn't she mean?
(43:49):
I don't know, is the authormean for I?
Ody (43:55):
can use uglier words, but yeah, we can go with that.
Nathan Mumm (44:01):
It depends on your worldview.
Marc Gregoire (44:02):
I bet half our viewers out there think she's
mean and horrible and the otherhalf think she's bold and
truthful.
Mike Gorday (44:11):
Okay, I don't understand why we're having to
apologize for using the termmean.
Mean why are we apologizing forcalling somebody mean?
Nathan Mumm (44:19):
I guess we're in a very sensitive world right now.
Speaker 7 (44:22):
Mike, oh, that's why.
Nathan Mumm (44:24):
I just watched Space Jam last night with my
nephews and everything.
Speaker 7 (44:29):
Let me just tell you yeah, you're mean.
Nathan Mumm (44:30):
I'll just tell you If I watch that and then I see
some of the things that theysaid.
They called people stupid.
They called there was moron.
Mountain is where they're at.
If you look at some of thattype of stuff and I could see
through the young eyes lookingat it as those were like bad
words and no one's a moron andeverybody's good.
So so we have, as a society,changed mean before I yeah, I
(44:54):
would have had no problems withthat.
Mike Gorday (44:55):
You know that's because.
That's because when, when wewere growing up, it was like if
we said, hey, that person's meanto me, somebody would be like
shut up yeah, yeah and get a getover it yeah, but you know what
?
Nathan Mumm (45:10):
I think we're a little bit more sensitive now
and I guess somebody complainedabout her being mean and I think
that that mean part could havebeen.
Mike Gorday (45:20):
I'm just really divided on this because it's AI
doing this.
Nathan Mumm (45:23):
Can I so that is correct, because Duolingo
replaced everybody.
So this goes back to AI in asolution.
Yes, odia.
Ody (45:30):
And to add on top of that, before Duolingo did this, they
were in social media wise.
They were like the number onecompany to run their social
media page yeah, and then theyjokes and they had fun things.
They were just on top of itregardless, and their you know
views were great and blah blahand they were just doing well as
a company, and then theyintroduced this ai bs and it's
(45:50):
just kind of like they laid off50 of their staff yeah and now
ai.
Nathan Mumm (45:54):
The ceo has said that the apps would replace
human contractors withartificial intelligence for the
language application so this isproof this is really.
Mike Gorday (46:03):
This is really hard for me right now.
Why?
Is that because they they didthis thing with ai and the ai
has caused a stir where peopleare having to get them to
apologize for what the AI does.
Yeah, and I think that's justfunny.
You think that's funny?
Nathan Mumm (46:21):
So because they had AI, it then probably went on
out there and made theassessment that the author of
Harry Potter was mean, and sothey put it in the AI
translations.
Ody (46:34):
And now people in the press have to come on out and
apologize with Duolingo sayingon behalf of a robot for the
content that the AI created, aperson would have never done it.
Mike Gorday (46:47):
They would have never said that to you.
No, I don't think so.
Ody (46:51):
An employee, yes, but as a translating app, no.
At what point do you mention?
Oh yeah, this author is mean, Idon't know, it's weird.
Marc Gregoire (47:03):
My point that I don't understand is why this was
even in Duolingo to start with.
It's not a phrase I don't wantto use.
I want to say where's therestroom.
How do I find a sausage in thistown?
Dos cervezas In German.
Mike Gorday (47:16):
I want to learn.
Marc Gregoire (47:17):
German.
When I go around there, I don'twant to talk to somebody about
the Harry Potter books.
Nathan Mumm (47:22):
Okay, I guess they're trying.
Marc Gregoire (47:23):
Mark, you're old, he is old yeah, okay, well, I
guess when do I find the bestbeer?
That's Dos.
Nathan Mumm (47:29):
Cervezas, that's two beers in Spanish.
I mean, I know all I can askfor a beer in, I think, 15
different languages.
You know, nobody is surprisedby that.
That is the most importantthing when you travel
internationally.
There's like three things youneed.
Mike Gorday (47:41):
That's the most important right.
Nathan Mumm (47:42):
You need the banyo or the bathroom.
You need the bathroom right.
You need to know where beer isand you normally need to know
hotel.
That's all you need.
It's like where's beer, where'sthe bathroom.
Mike Gorday (47:52):
Thank you very much .
This is the American viewpointof.
Marc Gregoire (47:55):
Nathan, here I don't disagree though.
Mike Gorday (48:00):
No, but that being the three most important ones, I
would have a problem with that.
Marc Gregoire (48:06):
All right, what would be your three questions?
Mike, hello, how are you?
Damn it.
He puts a good point.
Nathan Mumm (48:13):
How are you?
Why do you care about theperson you're talking?
Marc Gregoire (48:18):
to oh no, that's horrible.
Ody (48:21):
God, that's such an American way of feeling.
Mike Gorday (48:24):
That's the Nathan way.
Ody (48:25):
That's.
Marc Gregoire (48:26):
Nathan Land.
Mike Gorday (48:27):
That's why when you go to Nathan Land, you just
walk in and they give you a beer.
Nathan Mumm (48:33):
They don't even say hello, they give you two beers.
You know what If Nathan Land?
Had an interest of two beers,Nathan Land would be full with
many beers.
Marc Gregoire (48:41):
I haven't seen Nathan in a few weeks.
I got sucked in.
Nathan Mumm (48:44):
Did you?
Marc Gregoire (48:44):
From my love, alright, well guess what.
Nathan Mumm (48:47):
Maybe this should be an I told you so segment.
We're now moving into theNathan Nugget.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
This is your Nugget of the Week.
Nathan Mumm (48:57):
Alright, don't go anywhere.
Anybody let me talk to youabout something is bugging the
heck out of me.
I just paid for the nfl redzone okay grumpy nathan, all
right, this is.
This is why I think I've beengrumpy.
And for the first week of thenfl games, guess what their red
zone used to come in their entryline was this welcome to seven
hours of non-stop football,commercial free.
(49:22):
Well, guess what?
I paid for the service.
I paid for a service to get thenfl red zone.
I pay for a service and it hascommercials.
I did not pay to getcommercials on my nfl red zone.
That is not what I'm paying for.
I pay for a premium product forthe n NFL red zone to watch all
the games at the same time sothat I can watch every touchdown
(49:43):
, not having an ad pop on up andsaying you can buy this, you
can do this.
Not a commercial breakhappening when there's a
stoppage to play.
None of that should happen.
When there's a stoppage of playand nothing is on in the red
zone, what they did previouslyevery single freaking year is
they go back to a replay or theygo into a commentation about
hey, what will be bill belichickdoing this or this person's
(50:05):
doing this?
And as I enjoyed the downtimeand scott hansen telling me a
factual information from hiscrew of three or four people in
the background that are poppinghim information to talk about
for the conversation.
Mike Gorday (50:19):
I'm not paying a premium service to have
commercials hey nathan, why, whyare you not getting hot under
the collar when we reportedabout this in other streaming
services?
Nathan Mumm (50:30):
well, let me just tell you, because I do, I have
been all, I've been all overthis right od come on.
Ody (50:35):
Yeah, I've been you know, I'm not even a subscriber of
this or anything.
Marc Gregoire (50:39):
Are you, Mike but ?
Ody (50:40):
I see your point of view.
Because that's their wholething.
You won't miss a second of airFootball.
Marc Gregoire (50:46):
Yeah, are you a subscriber, mike?
No, no, and neither am I.
So once again, single person'sproblem.
Ody (51:03):
No, because he does have a crash out, it's just not on air
about it.
So, Mike from a psychologicalperspective is this a?
Marc Gregoire (51:09):
third world problem.
Mike Gorday (51:13):
No, this is a fantasy football problem.
How can I grab a?
Nathan Mumm (51:16):
player quicker than anybody else if the red zone is
not showing me live content.
Mike Gorday (51:22):
Okay, all right, we've already talked about this,
we know this is going to happen, and I think the funny part
about this is that you're MrCapitalist over here.
You love making money and doingthings and things like that.
This is a capitalist strategy.
They're going to hook you in bygiving you a premium service
where it has no commercials andthen, when everybody does that
(51:44):
and they need to make more money, they're gonna add commercials
in there.
So you have to buy the nextstep up premium but there is no
next step up, it's coming.
It's coming, but there's gonnabe a premium plus.
Why do I?
I would pay and you're gonnapay.
I would pay and you're going topay.
Nathan Mumm (51:57):
I would pay for the premium plus plus, plus plus
Ody (52:00):
plus, and then that's what's going to happen.
So you're not going to bunkerdown, and oh I already
complained, I already wrote.
Nathan Mumm (52:06):
I wrote like five emails All with different email
addresses that I have, and thenoh okay.
Ody (52:12):
So it's not five from the same person.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Okay, I like that you like that.
Nathan Mumm (52:16):
See it's like multiple people are having this
issue.
Is your name in all of them Was?
Ody (52:20):
that Is your name in all of them, nathan's in all of them,
okay.
Mike Gorday (52:31):
The secondary problem to this is that we can't
get enough of a following,because we have so many things
to worry about in today'ssociety, we can't get enough of
a following to boycott this typeof behavior, so everybody just
does it.
Ody (52:42):
Yeah, do you have the will to just quit this?
Nathan Mumm (52:46):
No, no, because it's just like a drug to me.
That's right, this and.
Speaker 7 (52:50):
Rockstar are the two things that I will not get rid
of.
Mike Gorday (52:53):
Admitting is the first step to healing buddy.
Marc Gregoire (52:56):
Alright, Odie, play the music all right, let's
go to our whiskey pick wow, markmark mark you need to play the
intro of the whiskey or violinmusic, whichever one a violent
music violin, the tiny littleviolin.
Mike Gorday (53:10):
My heart bleeds for you.
I'm definitely going to addthat.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings
.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop.
Mike Gorday (53:24):
Yes, let's see what bubbles.
Marc Gregoire (53:25):
All right, gentlemen.
We have the Starward NovaSingle Malt and we have the
Whistlepig Piggyback Bourbon.
What is your choice, Nathan?
Nathan Mumm (53:32):
Oh no, I'm so worried that I may choose the
Whistlepig, but I am still goingto stay.
I absolutely liked theGlenclaren bottle, is that?
Marc Gregoire (53:43):
what it is.
Yep, mike, which one did youchoose?
Mike Gorday (53:45):
You know I like both of them, but today I really
enjoyed the Starward Nova.
Marc Gregoire (53:52):
So you're saying that's in the beer, one that's
in the beer glass.
So, mike is correct, mike'spalate is on tune.
However, nathan will be winningthis round because for me,
since you guys are split, theWhistlepig is the better yeah.
Mike Gorday (54:06):
I don't disagree with that, because the
Whistlepig is really good too.
Is Nathan's palate getting?
Marc Gregoire (54:09):
better.
No, because he picked the rightone, I don't know.
Okay, but if anything.
Ody (54:13):
This proves that he doesn't even know his palate because
he's given this a thumbs downbefore right, that's true.
Marc Gregoire (54:18):
Yeah, that's multiple times.
Mike Gorday (54:20):
So you understand, there's clues here.
Ody (54:24):
He knows how to say where's my beer in like 50 languages,
but can one argue that becausehe's not cleansing his palate in
between sips, that he's justmaking a like bad decision.
Marc Gregoire (54:39):
You thought about that no, no we'll see what he
does in the next round withwhistle pig.
I will say I gotta let ourviewers know.
And for mike that the starboardnova single mall.
I did not not pick it becauseit was bad.
It's 100 malted barley in ourcar.
Regular listeners know I do notdrink malted barley heavy
(55:00):
drinks so it didn't hit myflavor palette so I never had a
chance in this one oh for me,regardless of how it but star
word is known for very goodsingle malts with unique
finishes yeah, see, I don't knowwhat it was
Mike Gorday (55:12):
today but I think I didn't choose this one before.
But today that flavor profilereally worked for me and Odie,
to go to your point.
Marc Gregoire (55:26):
I put these two up again because I wanted Nathan
to choose one, because he'salways said he hates Whistlepig
and the other one is finished inwine barrels and he hates,
hates wine.
Ody (55:34):
And he hates anything finished in wine too, and he's
always bagged on that.
So it's like the lesser of twoevils.
Nathan Mumm (55:40):
All right team.
We're about out of time, yeah.
Mike Gorday (55:43):
This was a get Nathan one.
I love it.
Nathan Mumm (55:45):
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Is that your new tag?
Yep, bye-bye.
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