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Story number one PresidentTrump's one big, beautiful bill
act may have quietly changed theeconomics of streamers and
online creators.
Let's go to Lisa Walker formore on this.

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The US Treasury Department this past week
released a list of occupationsthat customarily and regularly
received tips and thus will beeligible for the
administration's flagship no taxon tips policy, which will let
eligible taxpayers deduct theirtipped income.
And while the list includes theobvious bartenders, food

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servers, casino dealers andhousekeepers it also includes
digital content creators who areeligible, including podcasters,
social media influencers andstreamers.
Could this change these gigside hustles?
Only time will tell.
Back to you guys in the studio.

All right, what do you think about this, Mike?
So now tips for streamers sidehustle people.

I'm thinking all those OnlyFans girls are going
to make some bank here.
Make some banks.
Do they get paid in tips onthere?
I think that's all they getpaid is tips.

Let's be sure that we have this.
The tax deduction is capped at$25,000 per year, so if you make
$25,000 in tips, that's apretty significant income.
I mean, I have not waitedtables ever in my life.
I was the buster in the back ofhouse individual and I worked
in a restaurant, that's because.

That's because you don't have the mug for it.

I don't have the mug for so I I was behind the
counter and um, now this beginsto phase out after you make 150
000 of income for a single fileror 300 000 for a married joint
filer, which I think is prettymuch.

I'm pretty sure if you're waiting tables you're not
going to get that.
So I don't think that reallyhurts that.

But now let's talk about influencers and Twitch
streamers.
Making $300,000 or $150,000 fora single individual probably is
right up in that area of whatthey make with their
endorsements, I mean, they makepretty good money.

I don't really agree with that.
I don't think digital creatorsshould have that.
You don't think so?

I kind of agree with you.
I don't know if that's reallythe same as a tip.
A tip on that is more of likehere I'm paying you for your
information.
I don't consider that a tip forservice.
So I you know what, mike, Ithink we agree on that.
I was very surprised to hearthis.
It wouldn't change how we agreeor that this happened.

Well both.

I guess Odie just grabbed the mic.

What's your feeling on this, Odie?
She's pensive.

Ody (04:55):
I don't think their income is considered a tip, so I think
they're exempt from this.

No, actually.
So what they're doing?
It's interesting.
Platforms are actuallydeveloping tips.

Ody (05:06):
So if you do a Twitch stream, yeah something like
Twitch and something likeOnlyFans, where you get a tip on
top of that.
I understand that.

Okay.

Ody (05:16):
But brand deals exclusively .
That can't be considered a tip.
Okay so how would this reallyaffect somebody like an
influencer, for example?

they're gonna.

They're gonna start begging for tips yeah they're
gonna come up with a third partyplatform.
There's already two platformsthat have come on out that you
can tie your youtube accounts toand then you can tie other
accounts to.
That is all tipping.
So buy me a coffee.
I don't know if you've everheard of that site, but that's a
site where essentially it's atipping service and you're

(05:47):
buying someone a coffee like $5.
Tips here, different services,Now people, instead of saying
like and subscribe, it's goingto be changed Like, subscribe
and tip me at blah, blah, blah,blahcom.

Yeah, I don't really agree with that, you
don't?

like that either.
No, I mean, I thought it wasreally for the working with
class single mom that's havingto do certain stuff.
That was my like.
Sex work, no, no, no, no, no,no.
Wow, this is the only plans ofsex works.
Okay, well, mike's uh mindsetright now.
Okay, um od, I mean, if you'rea single mom, you're working at
a restaurant and you're gettingtipped and you had to pay taxes.
Absolutely agree.

Ody (06:26):
But it starts at, or you're up to 25K.

So after you hit 25K you can't write off anything
else.

Ody (06:34):
Yeah.

So 25K, that's a lot of tips, that is.

Ody (06:37):
It is.

So if I'm making a standard salary at $40,000.
I think this is a great ideafor for those industries, yes,
or restaurants, restaurants waitstaff, because cleaning service
, especially, especially, in aplace where tipping is optional.
You know, that's what.
That's what the whole tippingindustry is all about.

(07:03):
It's it is whether or not you'regoing to give a tip and how
much of a tip you're going toleave, and the fact that, uh,
you can adjust a person's salarybelow I was just at a
restaurant on friday the tipcame on out, the auto tip things
that they fill in there 25, 30and 35 I think that's too high I

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was struggling, so I actuallysaid the custom, and so I I.

The service was very bad.
We had to wait almost an hourfor our food to come on out and
so I no tip well, that should bea no tip right.
Well, you don't have to give it.
That's exactly what I thought,but we still ended up giving 10%
, which in our mind, was nicerthan nothing.

Ody (07:46):
It's interesting that you say that, because I don't know
if it's a generation thing, butit's a general consensus that
you give a tip even if it is badservice.

Really.

Ody (07:58):
Yeah, yeah no yeah.
I don't know.
The way that I've grown up islike, 20% is like the standard.
Yeah, and then anything below15% is like.
If it's mediocre, okay, andthen anything?

What if I had to recall?

Ody (08:12):
So we got no water.
It was really horrible, nowater refills.

So here's our.
So we sit on down at OutbackSteakhouse.
I'm just going to call them outthere.
You go, so Outback Steakhouse,you go, so outback steakhouse,
we sit on down.
You're gonna get in trouble,that's okay.
Um, so we ask for water.
Uh, we get one refill of waternever gets refilled again.
Okay, so we have our one waterdid you have another drink as
well?
No, okay, just ask for water.

Ody (08:35):
So we ordered, there's somebody that's gonna drink the
water see, yeah, I drink thewater I only bring this up
because of the water shortagething that happened a couple
like back in 2015 withCalifornia, and I remember when
we went they told us we don'tcare about California.

Well, I don't know it was something that really
like stuck with me because.

Ody (08:54):
I'm not going to ask for water.
I'm not expecting water unlessI ask for it.

Okay, so I asked for water.

Ody (08:59):
Because I don't want to waste it.

And we both drank our stuff down before we got our
meal.

Ody (09:06):
Would you have drank?
This isn't about water anywaystop making it about water.

It's not about water.
It's about service.
The whole idea behind weightweight tipping is that you get
based on your service.
It's not.
It's not.
It has become this sort of ideathat you should give a tip
anyway.
Right, but it's the same thingas not putting boundaries around
your children.
If you let them misbehave, theywill continue to misbehave.

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If you keep tipping a waitressor a waiter for bad service,
they're never going to improve.

All right, so tell me if this is bad service.
So we sit down, we get onewater, we wait almost an hour to
get the food.

This is not the people's court.

We don't know.
Well, hang on.
So we wait an hour for food.
We have to ask for the food ifit's going to come on out,
because we were planning to goto a movie.
We ended up getting the food solate that we didn't go to the
movie itself.

Ody (10:00):
Okay'm gonna, I'm gonna.
I'm gonna disregard thisconversation because one as a as
a person, why are you going todinner before a movie?
That's a traditional date.

Isn't that a date thing?

Ody (10:12):
yeah, but I wouldn't go to a nice restaurant with like
outback steakhouse considerednice yeah okay, no, I wouldn't
consider it like fine dining,but it's a nicer restaurant than
, say, mcdonald's it's a date.

it's a nicer restaurant than, say, mcdonald's
.
It's a date, regardless.

Ody (10:27):
Okay, regardless.

Yeah.

Ody (10:28):
For somebody like the waitstaff.
I think that makes sense.
This whole new law thing, Ithink that's okay.

Okay, but not for streamers.
I think the law Not forstreamers.
Okay, so we all agree.
So all three of us agree.

Ody (10:39):
You know what.
I just don't know how thatwould work, Like how are we
regulated.

It's just, entitlement is what it boils
down to so Trump's one big,beautiful bill.

Why would they include that in there?
Does?

Ody (10:52):
that benefit the average person.

I don't know, I don't think so, but they put it
in there.
So now you're going to have allthese actors and streamers that
are going to be in there thatdecide they're going to now ask
for tips, and now are going tobe in there that decide they're
going to now ask for tips andnow they're going to get 25k
that they don't pay taxes on I.

Just I'm struggling with platforms that have this.
I think we need to move on tosomething that's much more
important.

Okay, let's move on to story number two.
Mike, please help us from thetipping.

I'm sure that this is going to be something that
makes me go hmm, so you weretalking about california earlier
, foster city.
California has a huge problem,a huge huge problem.

Ody (11:33):
What is that huge?
Oh my god goose poop what?
Okay, that's us too what goosepoop Okay.

So they scoop up 400 pounds of goose poop per day
.

Okay, Okay, that's a lot, and they're trying to.

I don't know.
They're trying to figure outhow to deal with that, and then
they are coming up withstrategies a $400,000 pilot
project that will include theuse of drones, dogs and lasers.
Whoa, drive the birds away, or,I don't know, do they have a
laser yet?

that will give you a good christmas dinner I don't
know, okay, that really changesthe christmas carol then what
happens if the laser, the, thebird and all suddenly boom,
instant cook I don't know, but.

but it probably goes poof and there's a big
thing of feathers, all righty.
Anyway, this is a big problemaccording to these folks,
especially dog owners.
Yeah, because you know, dogsare trying to eat it.
So it's kind of a seriousproblem for these folks down in

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foster city.
So if you have your dog andthey're, going this is such a
california problem?
truly, I know see how this ismore important than tips and
they're using technology, right,okay, yeah there was so much of
it in 2022.
It prompted a health hazardwarning and a plan to kill 100
birds.
Oh, that's not going to work inCalifornia.

(13:06):
No, that was see.

Christmas dinner right there.

Christmas dinner, maybe early Christmas, but after
public pressure, last yearfoster city approved a
non-lethal plan, which, I'msorry, I you give me these
because you know they're funny.

Ody (13:23):
Okay.

All right, I don't know if I can feel bad for
foster city and all the goosepoop.

You can't?
Well, they're gonna.
So how are they using thetechnology?
I don't know they're gonna havedrones.

They're gonna have drones fly down into the, into
the groups I guess, they'regonna I don't maybe use lasers.
I don't know, maybe geese arelike cats they just lead them
away with a laser, or somethingokay which would be kind of
funny if you know that works.
I don't know how they're goingto use lasers, but uh, the the
biggest thing is that they wantpeople to stop feeding the geese

(13:56):
, which is why they congregatethere.
Okay, that makes during the thewarm summer months, they they,
all of them, fly south for thewinter, right?
I yeah, they do, they do okayso yeah, so I I'm pretty sure
that that's more important sothey've hired people to fly
these pesky drones right next tothese geese.

So they're gonna have people out there with
drones I have.
I have to be flying right.
Yes, bump into them.

I have to imagine that drones aren't going to last
long if they startle a flock ofgeese, especially a flock
that's big enough to leave 400pounds of poop.

So you think that after a while that they'll just
get used to the drone and saynothing's going to happen to it?

No, I think they're going to figure out that using
drones is not a good idea.

Okay okay, all right.

And then they're're gonna come in and they're gonna
hire mercs to come in,mercenaries, mercenaries to come
in and get, get them whenthey're.

You know it's nighttime okay, whatever they do
, they shouldn't be throwingx-lax out there for them to eat
where did that come from?

is that is that the nathan?
Is that is that the nathan,don't you?

ever remember the jokes growing up back in school
never mind, never mind all right.

Well, yeah, there's a.
There's the saying like poopthrough a goose.
Yeah, there you go.
Okay, but I don't know how that.
I don't know how that nevermind.

Okay, all right, don't.

Ody (15:19):
Whatever you do, don't know ai, what did you do in your
youth, geez?
He lived a whole different life.

Before the internet , we had to create our own
entertainment.

So let me just tell you, we didn't feed X-Lax to
geese, did you?
Nathan did, did you?
I think that's pretty apparent.

Of course I didn't, I just heard that it's not a
good thing to serve All rightWell.
Okay, it's not a good thing toserve All right Well okay, okay,
well, you know speaking ofanimals maybe you need to go
down to Foster City and let themknow that strategy.
All right, Okay.
Well, speaking of animals,let's move on to Mr Beast.
He's an animal too, right?
I'm not?

I'm not a fan of Mr Beast.

You're not a fan of Mr Beast.
The YouTube star, mr BeastBeast reportedly wants to launch
a phone company.
Problem is half of his coredemographics don't even pay for
their own phone bills Now.
So this is kind of going on thesame trajectory that.

Ryan Reynolds did.

Well, you know, I'm sure he's going to be asking
for tips immediately, but JimmyDonaldson, better known as Mr
Beast, is reportedly planning tolaunch his own mobile phone
service in 2026.
The 27-year-old creator who hasamassed over 431 million
YouTube subscribers.
Can you figure that out?
431 million YouTube subscribers.
Are you one of them, mike?

Nope, I don't care much for that guy.

Ody (16:37):
I was Not anymore.

Not anymore, why not?
Nah, because he's weird,Because he's weird, yeah, or is
it because of all thecontroversies that he stirs up
when?

Ody (16:46):
he yeah.
Well, I liked him at first.
I thought of him as like a cool, up-and-coming creator and
original, but now it's just Idon't know.
It just feels like a money grab.

Well, that's all it is.
Yeah Right, what's your agegroup To God?

Ody (17:01):
it's 25 to 30.

Okay, so you're in the 25 to 30 age group and guess
what His core viewership is 11to 24.

Ody (17:07):
Right.

So during the time that you were probably a little
younger, you thought Mr Beastwas really cool.

Ody (17:13):
And then, once you started no, because I was pretty Well, I
was definitely in that 18 to 24age group when he was becoming
big.

Okay, he's still pretty big.

He's still pretty big.
He's still pretty big.

Ody (17:26):
You were, you were okay with all the exploitation, yeah,
but then, like I don't know, hedoesn't come with the, I don't
know he's not doing anything newyeah, okay, so he's starting to
trying to start a well, yeah

he's in the new tron movie yeah, he's in the new
tron movie.
So if you're gonna go tronaries, you're gonna see mr beast
I don't know if I'm gonna go.

Ody (17:42):
I finally saw an ad for that, by the way.

I'll just tell you I'm very excited for the movie.

Ody (17:48):
How many Tron movies are there?

This would be the third movie Three live, and I
think there's an animated one.
Yeah, that's right.

The business model has been proven lucrative to
other celebrities.
Now President Donald Trumplaunched his own Trump mobile
service earlier this year,offering the $47 plan, a 47, 45,
a reference to his status asthe 45th president and the 47th
president.
So why didn't he do $45 and 47cents?

(18:16):
Now he chose $47 and 45 centsOkay, nobody cares and plans to
launch his own smartphonecompany with a $499 gold phone.
That is fake, all right, but MrBeast faces a unique challenge.
As we talked about hisdemographics.
Most of it don't align withpeople actually buying or paying
for phones.
Most of the people from 11 to24 are given a secondary phone

(18:39):
from their parents and MrBeast's audience is the middle
schooler ages through younguniversity students.
While he represents a massivepotential customer base, most of
the viewers aren't going tomake that purchasing decision.

Ody (18:53):
Uh well they will be it's interesting that you say that,
because I mean the guy came outwith, uh, with that like pit
stop burger thing that sold outwithin hours, if not days.

Yeah, because kids are constantly like mommy, mommy
, mommy.

Ody (19:08):
Of course right.

And then there's Lunchable knockoff that turned
out to be moldy or something.
There was all kinds of stuffgoing on with that one.

Ody (19:22):
Or his candy bars.

Yeah well, mr Beast has considered to be a debacle
with his new revenue, beastGames.
That did not turn out to be.
It turned out as expected?
Do we think this new revenuestream?
Will make Mr Beast popular andprominent.

Ody (19:42):
I think he's odd for doing that.

He's like Elon.
I think he's got some of thesame traits Elon does.
Uh, I don't find him veryentertaining.

You know what?
As a host for the Beast Gameshow that I watched, I did not
find him as a very entertaininghost.
His hosting was actually.

I thought poor.
You know how he started hisrise to fame was by giving away
money.

Yeah, giving away money for his events that he did
.
He had people compete forcertain stuff.
He gave away money.

So he takes his money and then he makes people
compete for it.

Yes, the money that he would have made from X, y
and Z.

That's pretty exploitative.

Okay.

And manipulative.

Well, that ends our top technology stories of the
week.
Next we dive into our lettersegment.
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Maybe mr beast can solve thegoose poop problem there you go,
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Oh, you all right there.
Mike Coughing up a lung there.
Welcome back to Tech Time withNathan Mumm.
Our weekly show covers the toptechnology subjects Without any
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We verify the facts and dealwith the sense of humor in less
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side.
Today, mark Gregoire, ourwhiskey connoisseur, is away
from the studio.

What is with the squeaky high voice thing?
Well, well.

All right.
So, Odie is in studio pickingup his slack all right, you like
that weird way to, or pickingup the slack.
Anyway, all right, picking uphis leg, there you go.
What has mark?

chosen for us to try today.
Make make sure you make yourvoice go real high.

Ody (22:16):
So I don't have that problem anyway.
Um, today we're drinking thefour roses single Single Barrel.
Barrel Strength OBSV, ballardCut, volume 2.
From the Four Roses websiteOBSV is the most rounded and
versatile of our recipes, at allages.
The extra rye of the bee mashbill creates a dominant flavor

(22:38):
with this recipe.
The bright and slightly spicycharacter is apparent at any age
and the delicate fruit flavorscreated by the V yeast strain
round out the complex palettewith flavors of apricot, pear
and plum.
As this recipe ages in thebarrel, the typical caramel and
vanilla flavors develop and therich flavor of cocoa is rich,

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bright and complex, with a longand mellow finish.
I had that.
I did not taste anything ofwhat they're talking about, but
that's me.
Uh, the company is the curingor current, I'm not sure.
Do you either of you know?
I think it's current currentbrewing company uh distillation
is four roses distillery inlawrenceburg, kentucky,

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classified as a straight bourbonaged nine years.
Aged nine years and four months, 62 abv or 125.4 proof.
Mash bill is 60 corn, 35 ryeand five percent malted barley
and goes for a hundred dollarsat the 750 milliliters all right

(23:43):
, and and it got your voicegoing a little high there too-
yeah.

It's got an interesting taste.
I know that I have liked FourRoses before.

How do you know you've liked?

Four Roses?
Well, because I have, I believe, Because you pre-tasted it.
No, no, no, no.
Well, I pre-taste all whiskeysthat I have, but the Four Roses
I like extensively as the FourRoses.
I haven't had the single barrelprivate selection and I think
this is I'm liking this.
This has got my palate all in atizzy.

(24:16):
Yeah, you don't have a palate.
This is my expert whiskeypalate.

Ody (24:21):
I have to agree with that.
You don't have a palate.
Wow, wow, wow, wow.
We proved it last week with thewhole not liking whiskey pig.

I can't remember the other one, my palate is a
palate of an everyday whiskeyperson that just likes alcohol
and whiskey.
It's not a distinct palate.
I'm not a palate snob, I justenjoy.

Ody (24:46):
No one's saying you've got to be a palate snob, but you've
got to understand what you'retasting too.
That's what I'm going a palatesnob I just enjoy.
No one's saying you gotta be apalate snob, but you gotta
understand what you're tastingtoo.

That's what I'm gonna call Mike, all right.
Okay, you're gonna call me apalate snob, I am All right.

Ody (24:55):
Anyway, please do not forget to like and subscribe.
Drink responsibly, becauseheaven can wait.

And tip and tip and tip and tip At techtimecom.
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Well, with our whiskey tastingcompleted, let's move on to our
feature segment.
Today we bring back the funnyyet informative reading of
emails that I received duringthe week.
This includes scam, phishingemails, texting scams and
all-out mistruths disguised aslegitimate emails in a segment
we call letters.
All right, we start with audio.

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Do you have two to choose fromthere?
You got a yellow highlighted,which is kind of the simple
version, or the greenhighlighted, which is the more
complex version.
Which one do you want to giveto the readers?
You want to give it simple ordo you want to give it?

Ody (25:54):
Oh, I get to choose.

You get to choose.
You have two to choose from.
I gave you and Mike both ayellow.
Yellow's the simple one.
Green is the more complex one.

Ody (26:02):
Well, I'm going to go with the green, because it has more
pages okay, all right, the logicis there.
I see it okay okay, so this isfrom fruit bouquetscom or
bouquets, fruit bouquets fruitbouquetscom and the email is
fruit bouquets atemfruitbouquetscom okay, so hang
on here.

So it's em em dot.
Oh okay, which well does thatlook?
So, boy?
This looks pretty legit,doesn't it?

Ody (26:32):
the em.
I'd be a little wary, but Iwouldn't know you wouldn't know,
maybe em start stands forsomething back at the office or
something extra money extramoney, there we go.

Look at that.
Okay, all right.
So what's it ask you to do?

Ody (26:45):
well, it's telling me the zest of my life with a $15
credit for a fruit bouquet.

Okay.

Ody (26:51):
And it gives me a shopping code and it's just a bunch of
images, not really any text,until you get down to the bottom
where you can like, unsubscribeand blah, blah, blah.
All right, so it looks justlike a generic brand email.
Oh, it's double-sided.

It is double-sided.

Ody (27:08):
Oh, holy crap, there's so much wow this looks like a legit
website.

Speaker 5 (27:13):
It does, doesn't it.

Yeah, all right, so you click on the link.
All right, click on the link,so I click on shop now for a 15
credit.

Ody (27:22):
Okay, the subject says the 15 credit awaits.
All right, okay, so they gaveme a code.

They gave you a code, so the website is legit.
So the website is legit.
That is the legit company.
But let's talk about a littlebit about what they do.
So when I click on the link, itsays this code has expired.
All right, so brand new code.
I literally click on it an hourafter they send it to me.
It's got shop your anniversary,shop your birthday.

(27:47):
It's got lots of great things.
Instead of sending out a flowerbasket, you send a fruit basket
that looks like flowers andthey have chocolates and they
got little meat things.
They got everything that youneed for your fruits and
vegetables.
Slash gift giving items.

Ody (28:02):
Yeah.

So this isn't a scam from the company, but this
is a scam on how you canactually advertise and get sales
.
So you click on the link andguess what happens?
That 15,.
You would expect $15 to beavailable, right.
So first it says errorinputting the code.
When you click on the link andit takes you to the website.
Now it shows you all thesegreat offers.

(28:24):
You add it into your cart andthen you try to put in the code
and the code says the code hasbeen expired.
Literally two hours after theysubmit the thing, the code's
been expired.
So not a scam and that you'regoing to give your information
away but a scam is that?

fork up everything you have to pay for the full.
That's a investment trickinvestment you invest time.
You invest time into doing this, where you're setting yourself
up to buy stuff and then theodds are you're going to still
buy it.

Ody (28:54):
Yeah, because you've invested all this time into it.

I went and I found it.

That's a car sales trick, Is it a car sales trick?
So it's kind of anold-fashioned and I wanted to
bring that up because I thencontacted their chat support.
So I did research into this.
I contacted the chat support onthe site here and said hey, I
just received this email.
It says that I have this codethat is available and I want to
use the code to do this.
The chat representative sayswell, let me put you on hold.

(29:20):
Waste almost 20 minutes of mytime On hold.
On hold, he says hang on, I gotto do this.
Welcome, I'm back.
Tell me a little bit about yourinformation.
I'll get back to you in fiveminutes.
So he's moving me back andforth, back and forth.

So just wasting your time, just wasting the time
of 20 minutes.
The more time you invest in it,the more.

I'm just going to say, screw it, I'm going to buy
it anyways.
That's what their goal is, foryou to just do it.
So then I do a little bit ofresearch.
He says that code never wassent out for a 15 code is what I
get back in the chat after 20minutes.
And then it was an error andthat they would give me five

(29:59):
percent off with this code, thathe would give me sorry for my
time and effort.
So instead of the 15 off, whichis a significant amount of a 40
purchase right, you're gonna do15 up now.
it's all of a $40 purchase.
Right, you're going to do $15up Now.
It's all of a sudden.

Ody (30:11):
Almost a quarter.

Yeah, so now it's 25%.
He's only giving me a 5% code,wasting my time and effort.
That was there.
So the scam is be careful whenpeople give you codes and you
click on them.
They may be legitimate sites,they may be stuff there, but, as
mike just attested to, it's aselling scam of sometimes
providing the code when youreally have no interest in

(30:33):
giving that discount out to theperson everything that we talk
about here is based on how tomanipulate your psychology.

Okay, that's, that's.
That's how they get you to do.

Anything is by manipulating your, your behavior
if you spent that time od 20minutes total time.
If you spent that time and youordered something, you finally
found something you like, wouldyou have just gone on and paid
for it without the discount?

Ody (31:01):
no okay but that's because I've worked in retail, so if I'm
not getting that code, I'm thenspending another 30 minutes
talking to somebody saying, hey,this is for $15.
I'm not leaving without $15.
Otherwise I'm out of the site,but I generally don't.
You know, I know about all themarketing tactics.
I'm not going to fall for it.

Do you?

Ody (31:22):
really.

What she knows about all the marketing tactics.

Ody (31:26):
She's worked for clothing departments, maybe not all the
marketing tactics but the wholelike oh, up to 50% off in store,
and then in the fine print it'sup to, and then 50% off is the
really big that draws the personin Up to 50% and you have like
one t-shirt.

You walk around the whole store.

And you say where's the 50% off?
And say, oh, that t-shirt sold.
This morning there was onet-shirt that was on the
clearance rack that was 50% off.

Ody (31:51):
It'd be like well, that's not really that's kind of a
deceptive ad.
See, I have to deal all I'mthat customer service person
that you're chatting with LikeI'm not going to put myself
through it when I know that theycan't do anything for it.

There you go, okay.

All right, mike.
Which one do you want to hearmore about?
The yellow or the green?

I don't know you got to choose.
Yellow is the simple hack andthe green has got a little bit
more of the story.

I think we'll go with the green one.
Oh, green also.

Okay, I'll get both of you guys.

We'll do two greens .
All right, this is from GaryBixler, okay, from insights at
thechannelcocom.
A legitimate site, legitimatesite, absolutely legitimate.
Hi, nathan, as a valued cloudsolution provider, you're
invited to participate in animportant CRN research study.
Your insights will helpilluminate how leading platforms

(32:39):
are shaping business landscapesfor solution providers like you
.
They haven't been to Nathanland, so they don't understand
you.
Okay, they haven't been tonathan land, so they don't
understand.
Be among the first 50respondents to receive a 20 gift
card as a thank you for yourtime.

All right, take this survey now so, yes, so I
clicked on that last week, mike,and guess what happened?
Uh, now it's at 5 16 am.
I was up at 5 16 how?

Ody (33:03):
are you up at 5 16 because I don't sleep very well and, as
you get over, mentioned thisbefore, you, don't question it
that's right, he's on it I'm onit, he's on it okay, so I said
it like five times okay 23dollars.
Oh, he's like right there sohe's waiting for that.

That's right.

He's gonna apply it to his liquor I jump on this
and within a minute I take thesurvey.
I fill out the survey allincorrectly.
I'm just hitting middle, middle, middle, middle, middle.
No, no real good information onthe survey.
In the middle of it it sayscongratulations, thank you for
taking our survey.
You are not one of the 50respondents to take this in time
, so we appreciate yourinformation, but you're not

(33:40):
eligible for the $20 gift card.
Now I get a little upset becauseI do not believe that there is
50 people ahead of that, so Ireach out and I send them an
email and I said explain to mehow I got an email and within
less than a minute I fill outyour survey.
How was I not in one of the 50people respondents?
So this company comes back tome with an email.

(34:03):
Sorry for any miscommunications.
It was the 51st people thatresponded to this.
This is the second mailing wehave sent out.
So the first mailing that wesent out to the people have
already responded and taken careof it, so you're not eligible.

Ody (34:19):
So you were never eligible to begin with no.

So they said that I was the second group to receive
this message in a group ofemails that were out.
So only the first group wereeligible for the survey.
So then I respond to the guysand say, well, that doesn't make
any sense.
Why would you send somethingout to do that?
Because you're saying thatyou're going to give a $20 gift
card to fill out the survey.

You're going to try and get the $20.

So they said well, there's nothing we can do about
it.
What we'll do is we'll move youup on a priority list, so the
next email that we sent out,we'll ensure that you get it as
the first time.
Now I have this in email, so Iam waiting.
I have now alerts set up when Iget any email coming on in from
the channel companycom.

Ody (35:00):
I know the answer, but do you honestly believe that you're
ever going to get those $20?
Absolutely not.

I think it's a total scam, those $20.
Absolutely not.
I think it's a total scam.

Ody (35:09):
It's like when you go to the fairs and they say enter the
auction to win this car.

And it's like the same car that you've seen for
year after year.
And you're like well, I thoughtthat car was won last year.
And they say well, did anybodyever win that car?
Oh well, you know what?
We're a part of a national blahblah, blah, blah blah.
We believe somebody won it backeast, or something like this.
So they always it's so.

It's like it's a scam let's, let, let's, let's,
let's pull back a minute.
And is this really a scam?
Because you're not actuallypaying money, you're not
actually outputting any of yourmoney.

Ody (35:40):
Okay, I see where you're going with this, but what was
the survey about?

uh, it was about cloud services, about do you use
cloud services?
Microsoft, azure does thatreally help anybody other than
maybe like microsoft and no,because I get on a list at the
very end of the survey saysyou're going to be added to a
sales list.
I can't opt out of it.
So what I did is I filled outthe survey for them on the
survey and then I just optedinto every one of these cloud

(36:07):
providers Service.
Well, I'm trying to get a $20gift card.
I'm trying to see if this islegit.

Okay, that's why this isn't a scam.
Why is that?
Because they aren't trying toget your information.
It's a mistruth.
You're not, it's a manipulation.
Okay, they are manipulating youby danglingling a 20 gift card
in front of your face, but youshould understand that if this

(36:33):
is a nationwide company, they'rethey're saying that 50 out of
the thousands of these emailsthey're sending out are going to
be the the first 50 are goingto get this card.
So that can happen.
Just you know, like that, likethat, I don't think they ever
gave out those 50 cards.
Yeah, but you can't prove that,can you Of?

Ody (36:50):
course.

So this technically isn't a scam, but it is a
mistruth.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
It is a manipulation, it is a mistruth.

They're manipulating you into doing
something, so you gotmanipulated.

Okay, I think that's why you're mad.
Well, I was mad because now I'mon the list, so the next time
they send something out.

That's why you can't unsubscribe Now.
You're going to get a bunch ofspam.

I had to get a bunch of spam, so now I'm
getting a whole bunch of spamfrom this company.

I think you should go and take the survey again and
just give them all bad, oh,just give them all negative
stuff.

I don't even think they care about the survey.
I think all they care about isthat at the very end I signed up
to be on their subscriber list.

Yeah, so they can send you more manipulative
emails.

All right, here's my last.
Here's my fraud that I got.
I got a response that I paid$94.84 for Stitch Fix.

Ody (37:41):
Now this is you are subscribed to Stitch Fix.

Oh, I am so that's why it makes sense a little bit
no-transcript so that's why itmakes sense a little bit Well.
But first of all, I've neverbeen able to get an order for
$94.84 from Stitch Fix.
Let me just tell you, Most ofthe orders that come through
there are at least $150 to $200for what they send.
So the first red flag on thisis that the price is a little
bit cheaper than I would haveexpected from this company that

(38:05):
I use a lot to get clothes andin different uh items see, I got
a similar one from my one of myhealth care providers did you

I said hey, uh, we're trying to refund you this
amount of money, and what do yousay?

I'm not clicking on stuff.
There you go.
Okay, didn't click on itbecause it didn't.
It didn't quite make sense,right?
It just didn't add up no, itdoesn't add up.

If if they want to give me money back, then I
expect somebody to from thatprovider to call me and say, hey
, we overbilled you, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, that would make
sense, right.

And you know what, if they did overbill you, uh, in
a year or so they're gonna haveto report that to the state,
and then you can find that inhidden money from the state well
, and they don't have to let meknow.

All they need to do is recredit my my account and
be like uh hey, we uh made amistake.

Ody (38:53):
But also, you would get in a like a formal letter in the
mail, would you not?

it wouldn't be through email maybe, but you
would get some kind of messagefrom an email that would say,
hey, we overbilled you, so wecredited your account back.
They they wouldn't say, hey,we're trying to credit your
account.
Click here right all right sothis is your information.

So this was from service at paypalsio.
So paypal has not changedthere's, so many things that are
wrong with that paypals,paypals and then dot io dot io,
which is a new domain name thatcomes on up there quite a bit.
The dot io is now popping itdoesn't matter.
They're taking advantage of yourheuristics so I say track

(39:32):
package and I'm like I wouldhave already had the package,
and it says here's your orderinformation, here's this do you
need some help?
You can contact stitch fits incfor more questions about this
purchase email or call.
Or if you still need help, youcan can visit the PayPal help
center.
Looks exactly kind of liketheir type of deal.
The payment was sent to thewrong address, so I don't have

(39:55):
it sent to this email addressthat they actually are sending
it to.
They're sending it to anservices when it should be a
hotmail address, which I lookedat also.
And so then all of a sudden itsays that it was paid by my JP
Morgan chase.
It actually has my accountnumber, my last four digits of
the actual checking account.
So I'm like this there's likeareas of here that makes sense.

(40:16):
There's areas of here thatdoesn't make sense.
Well, we do have trans union.
That was just compromised, soI'm sure my checking account
information was a part of thattrans union compromise, that was
there.
So the same stuff, you got thesame stuff too.
Yeah, yep, and so so it'scoming on in and I look at my
bank and guess what?
There was no charge.
So I'm not clicking on anylinks.
I go back to my known source ofinformation, which is my bank

(40:40):
no account withdrew 94.
I go and take a look at mypaypal not paypalsio, but my
PayPal account.
I see no money that's beentransferred out of it.
So I throw away the email anddelete it and don't respond.

Ody (40:55):
Do you pay for Stitch Fix through your PayPal account?
I do, okay.

So I mean they had.
It was really close.
They had the bank account, theyhave PayPal information Did
they hack your PayPal.
No, they didn't hack the PayPalbecause there was no account
that was charged.
But what was really interestingis they used the incorrect
email.
The price was way too low andthey wanted to give me lots of
help if this wasn't the orderwhich PayPal doesn't normally
spend that much time carrying.

So what's?

the advice Be very careful with TransUnion,
compromise and all these othercompromises.
The people now know your bankaccount numbers.
They now know your emailaddresses that you use.
They know your patterns of whatyou're actually doing, so you
need to be careful on everythingthat you see.
Don't click on stuff, that'sright.
Take a look at your hat right.

(41:43):
Don't click on it.
That, don't click on it, allright.
Well, that ends our latersegment of the show.
Now we're going to move on tomike's mesmerizing moment.
Welcome to mike's mesmerizingmoment.
What does mike have to saytoday?
All right, mike, would you payfor a phone service if it were

(42:07):
co-branded by your favoritestreaming?

celebrity.
Why do you ask me theseobnoxiously stupid questions?

Ody (42:14):
Because they get you all riled up.

Yeah, and then you start talking about this and
that, and then you start goingoff about Mr Beast and whatnot.

No, I would not, you would not.
No, I like Ryan Reynolds as anactor, but I'm not going to go
and switch my service to MintMobile.
Mint Mobile.

You're not going to say Cricket, but no, cricket's
another one.
So you're not changing it toMint Mobile.
No, no, $15 a month.
First off.

I don't worship any of these people, so I'm not
going to just go buy stuff thatthey put out.
Okay.

Right.

There.
Right, there's not a streamingcelebrity that you're gonna say,
hey, I'm gonna help them.
If it's not about help, okay,okay, this isn't about help,
this is about business.
Anybody that's on the internethawking themselves, uh, is not
my buddy, they're not my friends.
Okay, I'm not their friends.
Yeah, I'm not gonna send themmoney, I don't care what they're
hawking but they're banking onthat parasocial relationship.
Yes, they are, and because I'm agrumpy old guy.
That probably is a good bufferfor me, because I don't do

(43:17):
parasocial relationships, but alot of people do, a lot of
people do.
I think they should rethinkthose because of the ability to
manipulate, especially like MrBeast.
He's manipulatingimpressionable youth into
sending him all kinds of money.
That's why he makes so muchmoney and that's why I dislike

(43:42):
his platform.
Okay, one of the reasons.
So no, I'm not going to pay fora phone service if I don't even
have a favorite streamingcelebrity.

Okay.

I have streaming celebrities.

I mean, I know that you kind of like Ryan George, I
like Ryan George.

I like some news outlets that I think are funny.
I watch them because theyentertain me.
I don't watch them so I cangive them money.

Okay, All right.

Mike, thank you for that mesmerizing moment.
I don't think that wasmesmerizing.

You just want to hear me bitch?
No, it was mesmerizing.
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Speaker 1 (45:35):
And now let's look back at this week in technology.

All right, we go back to September 18th 1989.
Next Next Computer releases theversion 1.0 of its Next Step
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Now Next Step releases thisversion 1.0, developed by
founder Steve Jobs after leavingApple, which was an
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(46:03):
Originally designed to run onthe Next brand of computers, it
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Today's iOS that runs on youriPhone, iPads is the descendant

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Speaker 1 (47:14):
The segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's
Whiskey Mumble.

We should tip him.
That's right there you go.

Ody (47:28):
Okay, today, september 16th .
What are we celebrating today?

National Tip Day no Today.

Ody (47:33):
September 16th.
What are we celebrating today?
National.

Tip Day no National , national.

Mr Beast Day National.
It's got to be something withroses.
National.

Ody (47:42):
No, no, well kind of A National Flower Day.

We know he's going to try and connect it to the day
Right.

Because, that's what he does.

Ody (47:50):
Okay.
And he does it a lot moresubtly than nathan's weird
pairings, but okay, okay, todayis step away from seattle day,
okay, so we'll see how he doesit, but I have a way to tie it
in with the whiskey.
Okay, so yeah, you heard thatright.

(48:10):
There is an actual holidayencouraging folks to give the
emerald city a break.
After all, seattle gets swarmedwith tourists, especially in
the summer, and sometimes eventhe city needs a little
breathing room.
So if you are planning a visitto one of america's best cities,
maybe hold off just for todayokay, okay, that's the stupidest
, so on tuesday so I step awayfrom my way.

so if I travel, so if I travel in on Monday and I
have a business meeting now, allof a sudden I'm going to have
to stay out of Seattle forTuesday.

I step away from.

Seattle every day, and then I can go back on
Wednesday.
Okay, yeah, all right, yeah,just get away from the 16th.

Ody (48:45):
Okay, so Lawrence Lavelle Jones took over the Four Roses
brand after the death of thefounder, Paul Jones Jr, in the
late 1800s, which was lucky forus.
In 1922, during the Prohibition, Lawrence Lavelle Jones
purchased the FrankfurtDistilling Company, which
included the old PrentissDistillery.
This acquisition allowed FourRoses to continue operating

(49:09):
under a medicinal license, oneof only six distilleries in the
US.
Four Roses can sell a limitedamount of whiskey to an
individual, typically a pintevery two weeks through
prescriptions.
I didn't know about that.

Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.
Medicinal purposes that's wherethat comes from.

The government shuts down whiskey, but then
they give license to it forprescription only to buy
distilleries that pay them themost money.

This is the forerunner for medical marijuana
.

Ody (49:40):
So, on a more personal note , september 16th marks what
would have been Mark's sister's54th birthday.
She passed away earlier thisyear and in her memory today's
featured barrel is four roses.
Single barrel barrel strength,obsv ballard cut volume.
Two roses were among herfavorite flowers, making this

(50:00):
pour a fitting way to celebrateher life.
This whiskey reminds mark ofhis sister.
Like this pour, she came instrong, bold and unforgettable.
She had presence.
The first sip brings spice andheat, but it settles into warm
depth and character that linger.
That was her too Sharp, full oflife and impossible to forget.
So today, this glass is both acelebration and a tribute.

(50:23):
A whiskey with punch, polishand heart, just like her.
Wow, I dare you now to put athumbs down to this, mike, I'll
just tell you right now yeah,okay and in honor of her, I
think we should all stop andsmell the roses every once in a
while, like getting out ofseattle okay, well, you can't
smell roses in seattle blah blahI can tell you what you can

(50:46):
smell in seattle, but it mightnot be

appropriate wow, close 400 pounds of geese.

Ody (50:53):
Yes, Close Anyway, yeah.

Is that it, that's it, that's all.

Ody (50:58):
Mark has to say All right.

Thank you for that Whiskey Mumble you know, Odie
whiskey and technology are sucha great pairing, Like fall
weather and the pumpkin spicelattes now available at
Starbucks.

Really.

Ody (51:12):
I'll give you that.

Okay, I'll give you that.

Ody (51:14):
I don't think you executed it well, but you know the idea,
the sentiment was there.

Okay, all right.
Now let's prepare for ourtechnology fail of the week by
Elite Executive Services.
Congratulations, you're afailure, oh.

Speaker 5 (51:30):
I failed.
Did I yes, did I yes.
All right, you're a failure.
Oh, I failed did I, yes, did I?

yes, all right.
So this technology fails morelack of security measures and
setting up an opportunity fortheft, in my mind.
So if you work for a company,you should probably have as your
basic setup you're going towant to have cameras over your
front doors, probably camerasover any back door, that's an
employee can get into or get outof.
You're going to probably wantto have check-in and check-out

(51:55):
processes if you're dealing withconfidential information.
These are just standard thingsyou would have as a one-on-one
business plan of any business.
Now let's talk about this.
Tennessee court has sentenced aMemphis man who worked for a
DVD and Blu-ray manufacturingand distribution company to 57
months in prison for stealingand selling digital copies of

(52:17):
unreleased movies.

37 year old.

He got caught pirating.
Well, hang on though.
Ok.
So this 37 year old Stephen RHale was charged in March with
selling ripped DVDs and Blu-raydiscs of movies before their
release.
Ripped DVDs and Blu-ray discsof movies before their release.
Prosecutors stated that at thetime that Hal had stolen
numerous discs of movies thatwere being prepared for
commercial distribution in theUnited States between February

(52:41):
2021 and March.
In 2022 and may 2025, haleadmitted to committing criminal
copyright infringement andagreed to fully compensate the
victims, including returning tohis employer approximately 1,160
DVDs and Blu-rays thatinvestigators had seized from

(53:02):
him during the searches.
The problem was the company hadno video camera or security for
the digital media.
It was duplicating.
Okay, so this has to be.
I mean, hail stole the DVDs andblu-ray discs and took them
home and burned them and thensold them online.
So that's a criminal offense.
Totally get that.
You shouldn't do that.

(53:22):
But if I am a distributor and myjob I see I saw that face.
Okay, we're just going to wait,all right.
So if I'm a company and my jobis duplicating digital media,
don't you think I would have thebasic processes of making sure

(53:43):
that, if the disc is on anassembly line and is there that
it gets taken care of, that Ican't take physical media and
physical discs home after theend of my shift and that there's
some check-in and check-outprocess that's available?
Wouldn't you think that?
I think that that would be acommon practice if you're a
company in charge of duplicatingdigital media?

(54:03):
You know I if mark was here,mark used to work at a company
that burned laser discs.
You know, I worked in the laserdisc industry and I would ask
directly Mark did they havesecurity in place to make sure
that he couldn't lug out a laserdisc underneath his coat and
take it home and have itavailable there Now?
The company made it very easyfor him to consider this problem

(54:25):
, other than the selling thepre-release copies to online
sites, which, of course, I wouldhave a problem with.
As the Justice Departmentrevealed in March, the company
made it so easy that he did noteven consider it a crime.
Hale sold ripped versions ofthe stolen pre-release DVDs and
Blu-rays through variouse-commerce sites.
A list of stolen movie discsincluded Godzilla vs Kong, f9,

(54:47):
the Fast Saga which who knew F9was even worth it Venom, let
there Be Carnage and Black Widow.
He was also accused of rippingthe pre-release Spider-Man no
Way Home Blu-ray, and sharing adigital copy extracted from its
online after bypassing theencryption and preventative
unauthorized copying.
So he got, so he was able towork.

Is it because they didn't have security in place?
You shouldn't be able to work,is it?

because they didn't have security in place.
You shouldn't be able to takethat digital media home.
What he did him ripping it wasbad.

Why are we even talking about that Because
transusion got hacked.
Yeah, you know, security islike that.
There's a security paradox.
Oh yeah, I think I've talkedabout it before.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because I did physical security for a while,
okay, before.
Yeah, because I did physicalsecurity for for a while okay,
and when things are quiet,that's when they get rid of the
security company.

yeah, because they're doing their job so so so
I, I, so my fail is on thesecurity company, and you know
what?
Thank you uh, mr hall, Iprobably uh was able to watch a
bunch of movies.
I don, I don't do anything likethat.

Speaker 5 (55:54):
All right when we return.

Oh well, you know what?
We're not going to return,we're just going to go right now
to the Nathan Nugget.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
This is your Nugget of the Week.

Let's get this in here.
All right, here's what we gotfor the Nugget of the Week.
Microsoft and OpenAI have a newdeal that could clear the way
for an IPO could clear the wayfor an IPO We've been talking
about.
Openai wants to go from anon-profit organization.

Yeah, they want to make money.

OpenAI has reworked its non-profit structure.
They're going to ask for tips.
It's made progress withMicrosoft and their partnerships
.
We should ask for tips.
Tip us, there you go.

We're going to start a phone company too
TechTime Radio phone company.

We're going to do TechTime Games phone company.
We're going to do Tech TimeGames on Amazon, on Amazon.

Okay, all right, it's going to be all things you
can do while sitting in an easychair.

Microsoft OpenAI have both signed a non-binding
memorandum of understanding MOUfor the next phase of their
partnership, which activelyworks to finalize contractual
terms for a definite agreement.
Together, they remain focusedon delivering the best AI tools
for everyone, grounded in theshared community.
Now, microsoft has invested $13billion in OpenAI since 2019,

(57:02):
and the shares of the revenueearned from ChatGPTO as well as
its API.
Microsoft also now includesOpenAI as a competitor, allows
OpenAI to lean on other cloudproviders for compute power and
has started to increase itsreliance on its own AI models.
Will Bing and AI search be themerger to make Bing?

the way of the future.
You're really liking this idea,aren't you?
That's the Nathan nugget.
Bing is going to take over thesearch, forget Googling it.

You're going to be binging it, you're going to be
binging it.

Ody (57:33):
Nobody's going to be binging it.
This is a Nathan Giddy.

It's a Nathan Nugget happy.

You're loving this.
Nathan Nugget should be whereyou rail on things.

Sometimes I rail, sometimes it's what bothers me.

Sometimes he talks about how much he loves Bing and
Sam.

Altman, that's right.
It's kind of the Nathan Nugget.
I just don't know what you'regoing to get.
Nathan Nugget, nathan Nugget.
All right, now let's move on toour pick of the day whiskey
tasting.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings
.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop.

Ody (58:10):
All right, all right.
Today we're drinking from theCurran Brewery Company Four
Roses Distillery in Lawrenceburg, kentucky.
Classified as a straightbourbon aged nine years and four
months, 125 proof, $100 on themarket All right.

What say you?
I say thumbs up, absolutelyDo-do-do-do.

Do-do-do-do I don't have a thumbs up, michael.
Mike, I already said it, Ialready have a thumbs up.

All right, I like it, odie, what would you?

think I liked it before we talked about the heart
yanking thing.
Okay, all right.

Ody (58:45):
I'll give it a thumbs up.

Okay.
Out of respect, out of respect,oh, that's okay, all right.
Well, you know what?
From Out of respect.
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