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Call screening technology is finally getting the upgrade we've all been desperately waiting for. Apple's iOS 26 introduces a revolutionary feature that puts unknown callers into a holding pattern, requiring them to state their business before you decide whether to answer. For those of us bombarded with daily spam calls, this could be the most practical smartphone innovation in years.

Meanwhile, the digital safety nets meant to protect our children continue to show alarming gaps. A troubling study reveals that Instagram's teen safety tools are largely failing, with researchers finding that 30 out of 47 protective measures are either substantially ineffective or completely nonexistent. Despite Meta's reassurances about "industry-leading" protections, their platform continues exposing young users to harmful content while seemingly encouraging risky behaviors that attract inappropriate adult attention. This ongoing failure raises serious questions about whether social media companies can ever truly prioritize safety over engagement metrics.

On a more positive note, the tech world offers exciting new options for both computing and gaming enthusiasts. The Raspberry Pi 500 Plus delivers impressive computing power with 16GB RAM and dual 4K display outputs for just $200, while the new ROG Xbox Ally handheld aims to bring premium gaming on-the-go—though at the eyebrow-raising price of $999. As we review both options alongside our whiskey tasting of Mickter's exceptional Barrel Strength Rye, we explore the value proposition each offers and whether they're worth your hard-earned money.

From practical advice on avoiding increasingly sophisticated scams to insights about malware that's been silently stealing data from U.S. organizations, we're covering the technology developments that directly impact your digital safety. Join us each week as we decode the tech world with straightforward explanations, honest reviews, and perhaps a little whiskey on the side. Subscribe to our podcast on your favorite platform and visit techtimeradio.com to catch up on previous episodes!

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SPEAKER_04 (00:00):
Broadcasting across the nation from the East Coast
to the West, keeping you up todate on technology while
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along with special guests, tonavigate technology in a
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Pull up a seat, raise a glasswith our hosts as we spend the

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next hour talking abouttechnology for the common
person.
Welcome to Tech Time Radio withNathan Mum.

SPEAKER_07 (00:30):
Oh, welcome to Tech Time with Nathan Mum, the show
that makes you go, hmm.
Technology News of the Week, theshow for the everyday person
talking about technology,broadcasting across the nation
with insightful segments onsubjects weeks ahead of the
mainstream media.
We welcome our radio audience of35 million listeners to an hour
of insightful technology news.
I'm Nathan Mum, your host andtechnologist with over 30 years

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of technology expertise.
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He's the award-winning authorand our human behavior expert.
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Now we're friends with differentbackgrounds, but we bring the
best technology show possibleweekly for our family, friends,
and fans to enjoy.
We're glad to have Odiourproducer at the control panel
today, so Nathan can be back inthe main seat.
Whew, that sucked last week.
Uh welcome everyone.
Let's start today's show.

SPEAKER_04 (01:35):
Now on today's show.

SPEAKER_07 (01:39):
All right, today on the show we have our letter
segment, this funny yetinformative reading of emails,
scams, and other fraudulentinformation that I received
during the week.
This includes, of course,emails, texting scams, all out
missed truths, and we have ahand-delivered postcard that was
sent to us that we'll be talkingabout today, also.
And in addition to that, we haveour standard features, including

(02:01):
Mike's mesmerizing moment, ourtechnology fail of the week, and
a possible Nathan Nugget, whichwe got to get to.
And of course, our pick of theday, whiskey tasting.
To see if our selected whiskeypick at zero, one or two thumbs
up by the end of the show.
But now, Odie, thank you so muchfor being back in studio.
We always miss you when you'regone.

SPEAKER_05 (02:17):
I'm glad to be back.

SPEAKER_07 (02:18):
All right.
Now we we did hear that therewas a little car accident.
So hopefully, are you doing okayfrom that?

SPEAKER_05 (02:24):
Anyway.

SPEAKER_07 (02:24):
Okay, all right.
Well, hopefully you you can uhheal up.
All right.
Now are you ready?
You see that finger right there?
Uh yeah.
You know what that means?
He says, Don't tell them allabout my personal life.
You can find out more about Odieat but no, okay.
All right, now it's time for thelatest headlines in the world of
technology.

SPEAKER_04 (02:42):
Here are our top technology stories of the week.

SPEAKER_07 (02:45):
All right, we're talking about the iOS 26.
Now, this uh only Apple jumpsfrom an uh OS five or six
different digits.
You know, you go from like an 18to a 26, but uh, I get it, I get
it.
Now though, they have probablythe best feature I have ever
seen on a phone, and it iscalled the phone screening

(03:06):
option that allows you to putall of your spam phone calls
into a holding pattern.
Have you heard about this yet,Mike?
No.
All right, this is this is thebest.
Let's go first off to LisaWalker for more on this.

SPEAKER_01 (03:21):
Spam calls can be a huge problem for a lot of us,
and I get my fair share ofrandom calls from marketers and
scammers during the day.
Not ideal when you're trying tobe productive.
With call screening in iOS 26,though, I think Apple has found
the fix.
As you might guess from thename, call screening puts an
automated voice between you andunknown callers.

(03:43):
The person, or robot, at theother end of the line asks them
to state their business, andtheir response is then presented
as a text transcription for you.
You can then decide whether ornot to take the call.
It won't kick into action forknown contacts, and you can
enable or disable the featurewhenever you like.
But for me, this is a new gamechanger, and all the time, even

(04:04):
for calls from Nathan.
Now, back to you guys in thestudio.

SPEAKER_07 (04:09):
Wow.
Does that mean Lisa Lisa has meas a spam caller?
Are you a spam call?
Okay, well, guess what?
So that's gonna stop blowing upmy phone.
Okay, I I do.
All right, the iS or iOS 26supports call screening.
So you don't have to have Appleintelligence.
This is actually built into thesystem itself.
If you have an iPhone 11, 11Pro, iPhone 11 Pro Max, or

(04:34):
anything newer than that, youare able to get to the iOS 26.
So you are able to have thisfeature.
Now, after installing this, youmay see a prompt to enable call
screening when the first unknowncaller, or as ours, ours always
come as uh spam caller or what'sthe uh unknown caller also
robocallers.
What happens is the first timeyou get a call, uh you get a

(04:55):
feature that will ask you if youwant to enable this and your iOS
settings by tapping apps andphone.
Under the screen unknown callersheading, you get three options.
Never call from unknown numbersis treated as normal, a reason
for calling, which is the callscreening, and the option for
silence, which essentially sendsall the unknown numbers into a

(05:16):
silent voicemail and they can'task for any information.
I have used the ask reason forsetting up this process.
Now, with the call screeningenable, you get a silent alert
when the call is being handled,then a ping if they leave a
message.
So it's gonna prompt them andsay, please put in your name and
why you're calling.
So if they don't fill that outand then nothing happens, it

(05:37):
automatically goes to voicemail.
But if they do put in their nameand why they're calling, it will
give me a few seconds to eitheraccept or reject that call based
on the text transcript I receiveon my phone or on my Apple
Watch, also.
So personally, this is probablythe best thing to have on any
cell phone.
I think Android's gonna need toadopt something like this very

(05:58):
soon.
Uh, it allows me to keep theconversations that are important
top of mind.
And for those that I don't knowabout that I may be interested
with, if they leave me a longenough message with information,
I can call and talk with them.

SPEAKER_08 (06:09):
Okay.
So what's the difference betweenthat and the old guy strategy of
just not answering phones fromnumbers you don't recognize?

SPEAKER_07 (06:19):
Well, sometimes I actually get some uh so I'm
interested in some sales,sometimes technology sale items
that come across the desk.
I like to learn about new stuffthat happens.
So if I actually have it calland the person is not in my
contact list, if they're in mycontact list, it automatically
goes through like a normalphone.
But if they're not in my contactlist, they'll have to leave a
brief message.
If it's a uh robo call in anautomated cheap AI system,

(06:43):
they're not gonna actually gonnasay, Hey, my name is David, and
I'm looking to talk to you aboutX, Y, and Z.
It's gonna just say nothing andthen it will automatically be
sent to voicemail.

SPEAKER_08 (06:52):
Okay, so last week I got approximately 20 phone
calls.
Okay.
Out of those 20 phone calls,only two were calls that I knew
and recognized and took.

SPEAKER_07 (07:07):
Okay, and you answered them, probably, right?

SPEAKER_08 (07:08):
And I answered them.
But what happens if if I answera spam call, yeah, I suddenly
start getting more spam calls.
You do.
Yeah.
So if I answer a robocall,suddenly I'm getting robocalls
on the code.

SPEAKER_07 (07:21):
They got whatever robocall tree is, they're trying
to sell you a vacuum.
Now they're putting you on thevacuum that's easy.
Freaking email.
Yeah, it's kind of like when youclick on an email and you
respond to a hacker or somebodythat's trying to solicit
information.

SPEAKER_08 (07:34):
It's a real pain in the neck.

SPEAKER_07 (07:35):
Okay.
Well, so you know what?

SPEAKER_08 (07:36):
I I I I I I value that that technology that you're
talking about.
Yeah.
I just have an old guy strategythat takes Okay, but you don't
you don't you don't have do youhave an Apple device?
Uh my work does.
Okay.
But I hate it.
I hate Apple.

SPEAKER_07 (07:52):
Well, okay.
Well Odie, do you have this onyour device set up?
Because you I know you have anApple phone.

SPEAKER_05 (07:58):
I don't think I do.
Not yet, anyway.

SPEAKER_07 (08:00):
All right.
So before the end of the show, Igotta show you how to set that
up.

SPEAKER_05 (08:02):
Okay.

SPEAKER_07 (08:03):
It's pretty cool.
All right.
Mike?
Story number two.

SPEAKER_08 (08:07):
Okay, well you know, and we talk about things like uh
Instagram, uh what do they callchild protection security blah
blah blah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What do I usually say aboutthose?
All of them are a hustle.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 (08:25):
Or or you don't like any of them.

SPEAKER_08 (08:27):
Uh yeah, they because they don't do anything.
Okay.
Right?

SPEAKER_07 (08:30):
Well, Instagram has a great thing set up, right?

SPEAKER_08 (08:34):
Okay, well, Instagram's tools that are
designed to protect teenagersfrom harmful content are failing
to stop them from seeing suicideand self-harm posts.
Oh no.
A study has claimed.
Researchers also said the socialmedia platform owned by our
buddy Meta encourages childrento post contents that receive

(08:54):
highly sexualized comments fromadults.
Oh, okay.
The testing by child safetygroups and cyber researchers
found 30 out of 47 safety toolsfor teens on Instagram were
substantially ineffective or nolonger exist.
Meta, of course, has disputedthe research and if and its
findings saying its protectionshave led to teens seeing less

(09:14):
harmful content on Instagram.
And I guess they figure if lesscontent means one or two videos
that weren't supposed to beshown to them that that works.
Okay.
Uh the report repeatedly this ismeta stance.
The report r repeatedlymisrepresents the efforts to
empower parents to and protectteens, misstating how our safety

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tools work and how millions ofparents and teens are using them
today.
Teen accounts lead the industry.
There's a key point.
Teen accounts lead the industrybecause they provide automatic
safety protections andstraightforward parental
controls.
Not sure how that works.

SPEAKER_07 (09:54):
So they say they're specif well, so what they just
told you in that uh comment thatthey said is that they're
specifically targeting teensbecause that's their market.

SPEAKER_08 (10:02):
Because that's their market.
The company introduced teenaccounts on Instagram in 2024,
saying it would add betterprotections for young people and
allow more parental oversight.
It was then expanded to Facebookand Messenger in 2025.
Under the Online Safety Act,platforms are now legally
required to protect young peoplefrom damaging content, including
material promoting health,self-harm, or suicide.

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The study into the effectivenessof his teen safety measures,
however, was carried out by theU.S.
Research Center Cybersecurityfor Democracy on behalf of child
safety groups, including theMolly Rose Foundation.

SPEAKER_07 (10:35):
I'm familiar with that.
It's pretty good organiz this isa pretty good organization.
I don't think that they're um umuh specifically targeting in
individuals.
They spend a lot of time goingto actually do tests and um set
up how a user would actuallyinteract with the application.
So uh it's a pretty goodprotection service that's out
there.

SPEAKER_08 (10:56):
Okay.
Well, the researcher said thatafter setting up fake teen
accounts, they found significantissues with the tools.
In addition to finding 30 of thetools that were ineffective or
simply did not exist anymore,they said nine tools reduced
harm but came with limitations.
The researcher said only eightof the forty-seven tools they
analyzed were workingeffectively, meaning teens were

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being shown content which brokeInstagram's own rules about what
should be shown to young people.
This included posts describingdemeaning sexual acts as well as
auto-completing suggestions forsearch terms, promoting suicide,
self-harm, or eating disorders.
The researchers shared screenrecordings of the findings, some
of these, including youngchildren who had appeared to be
under the age of thirteen,posting videos of themselves of

(11:39):
themselves.
In one you in one video, a younggirl asked her users to rate her
attractiveness.
The researchers then claimed thestudy's into Instagram's
algorithm incentivizes childrenunder thirteen to perform risky
sexualized behaviors for likesand views, which that kind of
jives with why they agree withall this stuff.

(11:59):
They said it encourages in thepost content they received a lot
of comments from adults.
It also found that teen accountusers could send offensive and
misogynistic messages to oneanother, and were suggested
adult count accounts to follow.

SPEAKER_07 (12:14):
Okay, so that's kind of a big deal there, right?
So if you're in a teen account,you should only be recommending
to connect with other teenaccounts, would be the thinking,
right?

SPEAKER_08 (12:22):
No, this is just the ongoing problem with social
media and how it markets to toyounger persons.
This is this is kind of like howuh tobacco companies used to
market to directly to youngerpeople.
Okay.
And they did that for whatreason?
Because that was their market.
Yeah, that was their coolmarket.

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That's where they got theirmoney from.
And so meta is going to doeverything they can to skirt
everything that they can inorder to get the best out of
what they can get from all thelaws that are being enacted
against them doing these things.
But you know this is just onemore reason why social media is

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just a bunch of sewer uh trash.

SPEAKER_07 (13:07):
Is that what you think?

SPEAKER_08 (13:08):
It's it's sewage.
Okay.
Okay.
It encourages it encourages theworst behavior of of human
beings.
Interactions.
Yeah, that and places likeReddit and and uh although I do
like Reddit, I'll say Reddit hasbecome my go-to location lately.
You know, that doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_07 (13:27):
Well, hang on.
Uh I I just buy I like that theystore their information.
And it's the old bulletin boardservice slash communication
service.
So I I kind of like that.

SPEAKER_08 (13:35):
Yeah, yeah, and then Chat GPT comes along and scrapes
information from Reddit.
And then it chooses it to befact, and then chooses it to be
fact and gives it back to peoplewhen they're trying to date
their computer.

SPEAKER_07 (13:47):
And and then those create hallucinations, which you
love that word.

SPEAKER_08 (13:50):
I hate that word.

SPEAKER_09 (13:52):
Hallucinations.

SPEAKER_08 (13:53):
A computer cannot hallucinate, and we shouldn't be
applying human terms to toerrors in programming.
Okay.

SPEAKER_07 (14:05):
All right, well, guess what?

SPEAKER_08 (14:06):
Just in time for Thanksgiving, oh yay, we have
some Pi.

SPEAKER_07 (14:09):
Oh, I know.
You're gonna have to talk aboutthe Raspberries.
Yeah, the Raspberry Pi 400 wasthe first Pi computer with an
integrated keyboard, and nowthat's been upgraded models that
make people excited with the newPi 500 Plus, which has just
arrived.
Is that a subscription service?
No, there's no subscriptionservice.
This is open source.
They shouldn't use plus then.

(14:30):
Uh okay, they shouldn't useplus.
Well, okay.
Well, there's already aRaspberry Pi 500.
So this is the 500 Plus, hasarrived with a high quality
mechanical keyboard, betterinternal hardware, and
all-important RGB lights.
So you can have colors on yourlittle mini computer.
The once value processor thatyou could get for 30 bucks is
now a full-fledged computer atthe price a tag of$200.

(14:52):
Does it make it worth it?
Well, the first Raspberry Pi 500was a simple pi board built into
a keyboard, more like the designof an old Commodore 64 or BBC
Micro.
They still had to connect toseparate display, mouse, and
power supply, but the computeritself, a Raspberry Pi 5 and
keyboard, were integrated intoone sleek package.
Now the$200 Raspberry Pi Plus.

(15:13):
It's based on the Raspberry Pi 5with a 2.4 GHz quad core ARM
Cortex A76 CPU, 16GB of RAM,dual 4K display outputs, not one
but two 4K display outputs withmicro HDMI ports, Wi-Fi 5,
Bluetooth 5, and gigabitEthernet connected.
These are also come with threeports.

(15:35):
Two of them are USB 3 and one isUSB 2.
The computer has a 256 gigabyteSSD inside the M2 NVM slot with
this Raspberry Pi OSpre-installed.
You can also use the micro SDcard and slot to boot up to
other drives and other OSs.
So you could do your uh uh videogame ROM simulations with your

(15:57):
Pi Arcade and other devices.
But the question is$200, 256gigabyte internal drive.

SPEAKER_08 (16:08):
So for all the all the non-tech people out there
that listen to us, is that good?

SPEAKER_07 (16:13):
Uh yes, so$200.
So you can get now a computer,not just a uh a device board,
which you used to getpreviously, and you kind of had
to get a 3D printed uh shell toput on this computer.
Now you get a full computerwith, of course, nice display
lights.
Um, but it's a 256 gig SSDdrive.
It has 4K two outputs.

(16:34):
This can be for 200 bucks.
You can load this bad boy upwith an SSD drive, load Windows
11 on this, load Windows 10 onthis, an operating system, or
don't load Windows 10.
Uh or okay, or or any or anytype of other third-party
freeware-based uh does it comewith parental controls?

(16:55):
No, it does not come withparental controls, but a
computer for 200 bucks.
This is gonna make what I talkabout a little bit later or
regarding the new Xbox device.
You're gonna and look at thespecs of this, you're gonna be
like, why is one one price andone once the other?
Greed.
All right.
Well, that enhanced that'sthere.
You go.
Well, that is our top technologystories of the week.

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SPEAKER_07 (18:22):
All right, welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan
Mum.
Our weekly show covers the toptechnology subjects without any
political agenda.
We verify the facts, we do itwith a sense of humor in less
than 60 minutes, and of course,with a little whiskey on the
side.
Today, Mark Gregois is back inthe studio.
Mark, what have you chosen forus today?

SPEAKER_10 (18:39):
Today you are drinking Mickter's single barrel
barrel strength rye, the 2025edition.
Okay.
While you guys moan and groanover there, let me tell you from
Mikter's website what they say.
Okay.
Since the 1990s, the Mikter'steam has been doing pioneering
work to re-establish thehigh-quality American rye

(19:01):
whiskey category.
As a single barrel product, eachbarrel is bottled at a
particular alcohol level at thetime of bottling.
The bottle strength of this 2025release ranges from 107.4 proof
to 115.2 proof.
Tasty notes of butterscotch andcinnamon with hints of cherry on
the nose.

(19:22):
Warming, rich, toasty vanillaand caramel up front with a dry
oaky spice on the finish.

SPEAKER_08 (19:27):
Yep.
I'm gonna have to I'm gonna haveto say, Mark, that uh I am a I
am a rye convert.
Oh.
Are you saying are you sayingyou're liking this?
Oh yeah, this is good stuff.
This is good stuff, this is.

SPEAKER_07 (19:41):
But I think I I'm pretty sure I I don't remember
all the stuff that I have, butI'm sure I I I I believe I have
a Mitcher's bottle up there orif I on my own whiskey shelf
behind.
And if I haven't uh have it upthere now, I had it at one time
because this is a drink that Ido like.

SPEAKER_10 (19:58):
Yeah, you had the standard dry there.
We have reviewed, I think, theuh the 2023 barrel strength one.
Okay.

SPEAKER_07 (20:06):
I I I I bet you I did not put any thumbs down.
This is a thumbs up, Nathantype.
This is this is a Nathan type ofwhiskey.
It is, it is.

SPEAKER_10 (20:13):
So let me tell you a little bit about the stats.
So it's from Micter'sDistillery.
Uh it's an undiscloseddistillery in Kentucky where
it's from.
It's a straight rye.
It's non-H-stated, but we knowit's at least four years old.
It's probably much it's probablymore around seven, eight, I
would say, but we don't know forsure.
This particular bottle is 112.6proof.

(20:34):
The mash bill is undisclosed,but it's rumored to be a low rye
rye.
That's probably why you like ita bit, Nathan.
Okay.
And the price is MSRP 120.
120 bucks.
All right.

SPEAKER_08 (20:46):
Did you a little bit out of your Nathan range?

SPEAKER_07 (20:48):
That is well, I had that's the standard bottle that
I got.
I think that was probably likearound 60 or 70 bucks.
It's probably the standard isprobably a little bit less.
A little less than that.
So yeah, so that's a while.
I have to buy the cheap versionof this mic, but I uh okay.
This is really good though.
Did you do did you just get thisin?

SPEAKER_10 (21:05):
Uh no.
This is this is my backup bottlehere.
It's not opened as you can see.
Yeah.
The bottle that we're drinkingfrom is uh in back of Odie.
Okay.
Finishing it off.
Okay.
Odie's back there.
You know what?

SPEAKER_07 (21:16):
Odie, let me just tell you, Odie has already
finished her glass.
She's gonna be trying probablyduring the next commercial break
another shot.
You want another shot of this,Odie?
Yeah, she's already finished thebottle.

SPEAKER_10 (21:26):
Yeah, it's pretty good.
Everybody out there, don'tforget to like, subscribe, and
Odie, drink responsibly.
Heaven can wait.
There you go.
All right.
She's about to dance on thetable.

SPEAKER_07 (21:39):
There you go.
With our whiskey tastingcompleted, let's move on to our
feature segment.
Today we bring back the funnyyet informative reading of
emails that I received duringthe weeks.
This includes scam, fishingemails, text scams, all out
missed truths, disguised aslegitimate emails, and mail in a
segment we call letters.

(22:11):
Odie, what do we got over here?

SPEAKER_05 (22:13):
Well, you told me that this is connected.

SPEAKER_07 (22:15):
Maybe there weren't.
It looks like maybe are theyconnected or are they not
connected?

SPEAKER_05 (22:19):
I can't tell.

SPEAKER_07 (22:20):
It sounds like there's more drinking going on
than ever from the Oh, wait,okay, they are.

SPEAKER_05 (22:24):
Okay.
Okay, good.

SPEAKER_07 (22:24):
That's what I thought.

SPEAKER_05 (22:25):
Okay, it says it's from Sativa Partner.

SPEAKER_07 (22:28):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (22:28):
Uh install at mail.instyle.com on behalf of
Sativa.

SPEAKER_07 (22:33):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (22:34):
And it's just a are you in the market for a new
mattress?

SPEAKER_07 (22:38):
Uh well, hold on.
Yeah.
Sure.
Read the email.
What does it say first off?

SPEAKER_05 (22:43):
It says Sativa Partner.
Dreamy deals away open forexclusive sattva classic offers.

SPEAKER_07 (22:49):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (22:50):
With an attachment.

SPEAKER_07 (22:51):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (22:51):
And then a fall sale of getting$250 off.

SPEAKER_07 (22:55):
Okay.
So that's the attachment thatcomes with you.
That's the attachment, yeah.
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (22:59):
It has a bunch of weird codes at the bottom.

SPEAKER_07 (23:02):
Better sleep or your money back.

SPEAKER_10 (23:04):
Hopefully it's a helix.
Everybody on YouTube does Helixcommercials.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 (23:08):
You know, you just have to drive around your
neighborhood and you can findpeople getting rid of their
mattresses outside.
Is that for free?
For free.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (23:16):
That's a bargain.

SPEAKER_10 (23:18):
I saw a couple yesterday while I was riding
around.
So what do we get to click on onthis one?

SPEAKER_07 (23:22):
All right.
So we clicked on an attachment.
All right.
So now look on there.
Let's see if there's any placein there that you think allows
you to actually buy themattress.

SPEAKER_05 (23:31):
On the website itself, or on the attachment.
It says shop now with the littlearrow.

SPEAKER_07 (23:36):
Okay, so what it guess what happens when you
click on that?

SPEAKER_05 (23:38):
What?

SPEAKER_07 (23:38):
Nothing happened.

SPEAKER_05 (23:39):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_07 (23:39):
Okay, so do you think there's any place else to
do this mattress?
So I was very interested.
I wanted to get this additional$250 off the savings.

SPEAKER_05 (23:49):
And there's no link either.

SPEAKER_07 (23:51):
There's no link to sell.
So this is the worst type ofspam to get.

SPEAKER_09 (23:54):
Or either.
Is it the worst type of spambecause you wanted to do it?
You wanted it to be real.

SPEAKER_07 (24:00):
If you're gonna send something that you're trying to
get people to click on, you needto actually include a link for
people to click on.
So now I decided to respond tothem in email.
So I sent them an email.
I said, I'm struggling to findthe link to get this taken care
of.
Guess what I received back?
An NDR.
So there is so I send it to themand it's a non-disclosure?

(24:21):
No, an NDR, which is anon-deliverable receipt, which
says that that email address isno longer available.
So they send me this thing,tempt me into saving$250, didn't
have a link for me to click onto put any of these codes in,
and then when I respond to them,it's not legit.

SPEAKER_05 (24:38):
But Nathan, you're forgetting a key factor.

SPEAKER_07 (24:41):
What's that?

SPEAKER_05 (24:41):
You're not supposed to click on stuff.

SPEAKER_07 (24:43):
You're not supposed to click on stuff.
So I guess the hat.
So I know, don't click on stuff,right?
There you go.
So let me but if you're gonnatry to spam me with a great
mattress offer, shouldn't you atleast give me a link to click
on?
Was that$250?
What$250 off?

SPEAKER_05 (25:00):
That's how much I spend on a mattress.

SPEAKER_07 (25:01):
Okay.
You don't go around and lookaround your neighborhood for the
ones that are for free.

SPEAKER_05 (25:06):
That's like an older person thing to go shopping at
like a mattress and more orwhatever.

SPEAKER_07 (25:11):
Yeah, you don't do that.
Did you just buy a mattress onAmazon and have it delivered?
Yeah.
Did you get the purple mattress?
No.
No.

SPEAKER_05 (25:16):
That's like$500.
I just said$250.
$250 is your max.

SPEAKER_07 (25:20):
What did you find for$250 on Amazon?

SPEAKER_05 (25:22):
Something that's like six or seven inches.
Okay.

SPEAKER_07 (25:25):
Okay.

SPEAKER_08 (25:25):
All right.
Okay.
I'm really uncomfortable.
Let's stop talking aboutmattresses.

SPEAKER_07 (25:30):
Okay.
All right.
Well, you know what?
We're going to move next on toMr.
Grewell.
Gregoil, what do you have there?

SPEAKER_10 (25:35):
I have something that somebody is targeting Mike
for.
Oh, what okay.

SPEAKER_07 (25:39):
Explain, explain that.
Explain that.

SPEAKER_10 (25:42):
Because it's not an email, because they know he
doesn't click on anything in hisemail.
It's actually a piece of paperthat was mailed.
It was mailed to the mail.

SPEAKER_07 (25:51):
And this came in the mailbox.

SPEAKER_10 (25:53):
Does it have a link on there?

SPEAKER_09 (25:54):
Oh, it does.

SPEAKER_10 (25:55):
It has a QR code.
Is that what it is?
And it looks official.
It says it's from Amazon andclaim your$25 Amazon gift card.
And it does look valid because alot of products do this where
they say, hey, look, if youreview us and give us five
stars, we will give you a giftcard.
So it looks very valid.
And they say just go on there,follow this QR code, and do it

(26:15):
for what you purchased from us.
But I don't know what youpurchased from this because they
don't say who they are.
What is the QR code, buddy?

SPEAKER_07 (26:23):
I did not click on that.
You did not click on a QR.
You gotta be very careful toclick on QR codes nowadays,
right?
Because QR codes are becomingthe new simple way you'll see
something on a TV ad and youjust scan it.

SPEAKER_08 (26:33):
Let's just go back to you know campfires and uh
tents.

SPEAKER_07 (26:38):
All right, tents.
So if you actually click on thatQR code, you'll you will be
safe.
This is actually a legitimate.
You wouldn't click, I mean youscan it with your phone.
Or scan it with your phone,yeah.
So you scan it with your phoneand it opens up in your browser
and you go to click on it.
Stop poking it with your finger,it's not gonna work.
Okay.
So what happens is it goes to asite of a purchased item that
I've never purchased.
It's a three-in-one HDMIsplitter.

(27:00):
Which, you know, what it soundslike something you would buy.
That sounds like a Nathan.
Yeah, so absolutely, I could usethat for like one TV screen and
you see another TV screen.

SPEAKER_10 (27:09):
You are getting old.
You sure you haven't bought it?

SPEAKER_07 (27:12):
Well, I actually did look in my history over the last
couple of years.
I have not bought a splitter.
Okay.
But what it does is it will itwants you to buy the splitter
for$11.
Then it wants you to give it afive-star review.
Once you give it a five-starreview, what they'll do is they
will give you a refund for thethree in one splitter that you

(27:32):
ordered.
And then on top of that, theywill give you a$25 Amazon gift
card.
Now, I do review a bunch ofstuff on Amazon, so I probably
have a decent rating.
I I don't know if they knew tosend it to look at look at the
person's address right there.
Does it say my name on thefront, or does it say Nathan Mum
personal?

SPEAKER_10 (27:52):
Personal.

SPEAKER_07 (27:53):
So that that is my actual login to Amazon.
So they probably saw that reviewof something else that I've
done.
And then they've got my address,which there's a gazillion and a
half compromised sites that youcan just put in my name and find
at my address of where I'm at.
And they're all over the darkweb anymore for this bad boy.
Um, and so they wanted me toreview the product.

(28:14):
I didn't review the product.
Well, you have to buy it first,don't you?
You have to buy it first.
So there's and then so you buyit first, then you have to
review it, then you have to sendthem the review.
It really came down to 25 buckswas not worth the time and
effort to do.

SPEAKER_10 (28:27):
Yeah, I've been asked to do a few of these on
ones I've actually purchased,and I've ended up not doing it.
Just wasn't worth the time andeffort.
Yeah, and there's a littlehokiness about it.

SPEAKER_07 (28:38):
It is because now when I go to look at other
reviews, do I know if thatperson got paid for that review?
Or they actually really have tobe.

SPEAKER_10 (28:44):
You have to give them five stars.
So I'm like, that's not reallyan honest review.

SPEAKER_07 (28:47):
It's all crap.
Yeah, I I've given a coupleproducts four star reviews, and
let me just tell you, I guessthat's like a kiss of death.
I get people calling me up and Iget people emailing me, how dare
you rate my product with a four?
Now, if you do a scale of one tofive, isn't four still good?
It is.

SPEAKER_05 (29:05):
In order to be like highly recommended, it's five or
nothing.

SPEAKER_07 (29:08):
So it's either five or one.

SPEAKER_08 (29:10):
Where are you getting feedback from people who
you're rating?

SPEAKER_05 (29:13):
The sellers?

SPEAKER_08 (29:13):
Yeah, the sellers for real.
On eBay?
On Amazon.
On Amazon, I put a four star.
I never get anything.
I I rate stuff on Amazon.
I never get people calling meand yelling at me.
Do you do a five star or a one?
I do the full range.
If if I never do fives.
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (29:32):
You never do fives.
Okay.

SPEAKER_08 (29:34):
I think that's an older person thing.
That's an old that's an old guything.

SPEAKER_10 (29:38):
We just give it a range.
Uh but I do know the mydaughters, which are more around
Odie's age, it it's five or onefor everything.

SPEAKER_07 (29:47):
Yeah.
Usually it's either you're happyor not.
So if you're happy, it's a five.

SPEAKER_05 (29:50):
Well, on that note, I only rate something if I'm
like super ecstatic about it andit's a five.

SPEAKER_07 (29:56):
Or super pissed.

SPEAKER_05 (29:57):
Yeah.

unknown (29:57):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (29:57):
Otherwise, if it's like a four and mediocre, I'm
not gonna.
To leave a review, I'm not gonnasay I do some threes, I do some
fours.

SPEAKER_10 (30:03):
I don't mind that as much, but uh you go through a
lot of these and you're tryingto figure to buy something, so I
actually read the reviews.
And there's a lot of five starsthat when you read the actual
review, it's not a five starthey're talking about.
No, but they give it a five starbecause that's I had some
problems with that.
I love this.

SPEAKER_07 (30:17):
I had to update this, I had to update that.

SPEAKER_08 (30:19):
I love the ones that start.
I I would give if I I had togive it a one star because I had
to.
If I if I didn't, I would be azero star.
So yeah, I love those.
Those are nice.

SPEAKER_07 (30:30):
Uh all right, okay.
Well, so there you go.
So an actual postcard.
You can take that home, Mike, ifyou want to buy the product.
No, that's okay.
It doesn't work.
I keep trying to click on theone here.
All right.
Uh what do you have next, Mike?

SPEAKER_08 (30:43):
Well, it looks like I have something sent from you
to you, but that was actually areply to an email from something
called CSID S or C S I D.
Correct.
No reply at alerts-mail dotCsid.com.
What is Csid.com?

SPEAKER_07 (30:59):
I have no idea, but boy, it sounds secure.
It sounds like a security site.

SPEAKER_08 (31:03):
Subject is your email address was found on the
dark web, and then it has agraphic.
Oh no.
Nathan, view your email addressalert.
C Sid detected a match to youremail address.
Found email address.
Email I don't know athotmail.com.
Yeah, so star star star.starstar star at hotmail.com.

(31:24):
Potentially breached site, notavailable.
Click here to see what you cando to protect yourself.

SPEAKER_07 (31:30):
Also, visit our FAQs to learn more.
All right.

SPEAKER_08 (31:32):
So they did you log in?

SPEAKER_07 (31:34):
So there's no FAQs on the on the page.
So I don't know how I can clickon FAQs if you don't provide a
link in the case.
But you sent them if you're sentthem a thank you note.

SPEAKER_09 (31:41):
Uh you're like, hey, thanks.
Make them up.

SPEAKER_07 (31:43):
So if you're gonna start, so you know what?
With AI out there, you can nowhave grammar take care of almost
anything you're scamming.
So you need to at least providethe links if you're gonna be
doing this.
Now, this did have a link, andit said to scan now or log in
now.
Log in now.
So I clicked on the link, log innow.
And and what it did is it saysyou could be a part of a
potential breach.

(32:04):
We want to stop it immediately.
Now, this is not a real site,this is not a real security
site.
I do not pay for CSID.
I did not sign up for analerts.mail at csid.com.
This is a scam site that isimposing itself as trying to
protect us.
That's what they do when theycall up on the phones and say
they're from Microsoft andthey're here to fix your
computer.

(32:24):
Yep.
All of it starts with that we'rehere to help you.
They have an um an address here,a physical address.
Did you in Texas?
I did.
I did.
And you know what it goes to acoffee shop.
Oh.
So the coffee shop is probablynot going to be able to, and
it's not as Starbucks is closingdown or any uh one of those.
It's actually a uh uh likepersonal coffee shop.

(32:46):
So maybe the C S ID security uhgroup is uh, you know, maybe
they're doing coffee in themorning.
That is the best job ever.

SPEAKER_08 (32:55):
My office would be a coffee shop if I were running a
cybersecurity ID.
Oh, there it is, C Sid.
Oh, there you go.

SPEAKER_10 (33:03):
I I disagree with you, Mike.

SPEAKER_08 (33:05):
What would yours be?

SPEAKER_10 (33:06):
No, no, I think I don't think Mike's would be a
coffee shop if he didcybersecurity.
I'm sure it would be a liquorstore.
Liquor store?
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 (33:13):
I don't think I can go to every time you talk about
tobacco streets heavy.
A tobacco cigarette.

SPEAKER_08 (33:19):
That's true.
That's true.
It would be uh okay, so it wouldbe a bar.
That'd be a bar.

SPEAKER_07 (33:25):
If you're gonna do a security system out of there,
yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (33:28):
And you know, I'd be picking up on chicks over there
and be like, uh yeah.
Can I need to smoke a cigar?
Okay.
Wow, that attitude.
I think you'd be picking up my.
All right, so when you log in,hanging out in bars and doing
cybersecurity.

SPEAKER_10 (33:46):
That's how Mike Gordon all the way.

SPEAKER_08 (33:49):
Sounds like me all the way.

SPEAKER_07 (33:50):
And be like, get out of here.
Don't click on stuff.

SPEAKER_10 (33:52):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 (33:52):
All right.
So when you clicked on thislink, it asked you to put in
your email.
It asked you to put in yourpassword.
It pass asked you to do a bunchof stuff.
I kept on putting in fake stuff.
It just kept on looping andlooping and looping.
Never gave me an opportunity tolog in.
It just kept on collecting myemail addresses I sent it with
all my passwords.
So they got a lot of fake emailaccounts.
Poor Travis at yahoo.com.

(34:12):
That poor guy.
I don't know who Travis atyahoo.com is, but he is my
default uh email address that Isee.

SPEAKER_08 (34:18):
Yeah, one day somebody's gonna show up on your
lawn and be like, hey, I'mTravis from Yahoo.com.

SPEAKER_07 (34:25):
This guy keeps on signing me up for everything.
I think it's a good thing.
You can have a bazooka.

SPEAKER_10 (34:28):
All right.
The theme of the show so far orthis segment seems to be there's
a lot more spam phishing emailsgoing out, but they seem to be a
lot, a lot of broken links, alot of things that don't work.
You know, the other ones youcould kind of figure out because
they had bad English or this,but at least they had links at
work so people could click.
I know.
So what are they?

SPEAKER_07 (34:49):
It's a real it's a real letdown.
So what are they trying to getbetter for?
This is just this is just uh uhan email farm.
Credentials are trying to getyour login credentials for
sites.

SPEAKER_10 (34:58):
Now, do you think the links don't work because
something actually got takendown or they got caught or they
got you know well this one wascollecting your stuff, so this
one kept on collecting andcollecting and collecting.

SPEAKER_07 (35:06):
So this one was working.
So this one was working.
Okay, but uh Odie's one wasworking.
It could have been that theyactually they got the poor
factress company and somebodytried ordering a fat uh uh a
nice mattress and when theycontacted the factory they were
no longer there, so they shutdown.
All right.
My last one is very simple.
Yeah, it looks like it.
Uh I got this from CWC onlinecertification, but look at what

(35:29):
it goes to.
It actually goes to a Tyler dotuh Nigin at 1956 at
valuecustomerscase.info.
That's spelled, that'spronounced in when Tyler Wynn
1956.
So, you know what?
Really, it says in 30 minutes,you could have a concealed carry
qualified uh instantcertificate.

(35:53):
Extend your second amendmentrights, just got easier with
countrywide concealed.
You can complete yourcertification in minutes, watch
a training video, pass a 10question test, download your
certificate instantly.
Now, this is What does thatmean?
I can carry an office.

SPEAKER_09 (36:07):
No, that is not, no, that is not.
That is you cannot do that.
You have to access your realtest.

SPEAKER_07 (36:12):
No way to carry.
If you want to, if you want tohave a concealed weapons permit,
oh is that what a concealedweapons permit?

SPEAKER_10 (36:17):
I was hoping it's a concealed flask or something.

SPEAKER_07 (36:20):
No, that's a concealed well it it's about
things.
There you go.
Get certified to carry.
Now look at that now and thenlook at that link.
If you're gonna send out a linkand it goes, there's a lot of
words on the you should justhave it go and and be a uh a
bit.ly URL or something.
You should show it to thescreen.
Show it to the screen.
Uh so the whole email.

SPEAKER_08 (36:40):
They can see that.

SPEAKER_07 (36:41):
The whole email is those are links, those are
actual three links in the Didyou click on it?
I did click on it.
I know you want to be aconcealed carry guy.
Uh so I clicked on it.
And you know what?
For only$49.
Okay.
$49.
I could watch this little videoof a guy on YouTube that was a
free video.
So I don't know.
Did you watch him?

(37:01):
I I you could watch this video.
Did he tell you how to concealyour firearm?
Uh he talked about gun safetyand how to lock up everything.
And then at the end of this,then all of a sudden you get a
certificate that you could printand you could download.
So you could have it very simplytaken care of.
And now I'm eligible to carry in84% of the United States.

SPEAKER_08 (37:20):
84% of the of the US.

SPEAKER_07 (37:22):
That's the continental United States.
And then when I actually clickedon each of these states, it
says, but there may beadditional licenses available,
so please contact your localstate.
So it was a waste of$49.
Yeah.
Did you actually pay$49?
Yeah, you know.
I did.
But then I actually went back tomy credit card and said it was a
fraud.
So I so I got the money backfrom the credit card as a scam.

(37:44):
Okay.

SPEAKER_08 (37:44):
Now they have your credit card information.

SPEAKER_07 (37:46):
You know, Washington State is an open carry state.
Is it?

SPEAKER_08 (37:49):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 (37:50):
You know what?
I actually have I actually wentthrough the real testing, and it
was much more vigorous than thisto actually get the real permit.

SPEAKER_08 (37:56):
Well, we live in we live in the we live in the
society of I want it now.
So in 30 minutes I can get askilled weapons permit.
Uh yeah, I think that's I thinkthat's the way to go.
Well.

SPEAKER_07 (38:08):
All right, you know what?
That ends our Odie's giving usthe slide.
Yes, that's right.
So now it's time for us to endour letter segment and move on
to Mike's mesmerizing moment.

SPEAKER_06 (38:19):
Welcome to Mike's mesmerizing moment.
What does Mike have to saytoday?

SPEAKER_07 (38:26):
Alright, Mike, would you fill out a survey and give a
positive review if you're paidto do so?
No.

SPEAKER_05 (38:35):
Wait, even if you were paid?

SPEAKER_08 (38:38):
If you're paying me to give you a good review, what
is that?
Um that's functionally so Idon't know how to I don't even
know how to answer this for youpeople.

(38:59):
Okay.
I don't know why you're evenasking me that question.
Well I guess.
Okay, so this is a this is athis is right, it's an integrity
issue and it's a deceptivemarketing practice.
If somebody's gonna pay me towrite them a good review Did you
say good review or just review?
Uh just positive positivereview.
Positive review.

SPEAKER_10 (39:19):
It has to be five star for most of these for them
to pay.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (39:22):
Yeah, yeah.
So I've I've run into this quitea bit over the last several
years where people have offeredto give me money to give them a
really good review on a product.
Okay.
And you know, that's that's kindof like uh Forrest Gump, you
know, where he's on talkingabout his paddle.
It's like it's a little whitelie, but Mama says that's okay.

(39:45):
Uh I not I can't do that.
Okay.
So you would not give a No.
It's a yeah.
Okay.
If I get a product and itdoesn't work and then I tell
everybody else it's the greatestproduct in the world, what does
that make me look like?

SPEAKER_10 (39:58):
Uh makes you look like you're an advertiser.
Now, on the flip side, if Mikewrote a maybe Mike, if you wrote
a positive five-star review andthen the they reached out to
say, Thank you so much, here's$25, you would definitely accept
it after the fact.

SPEAKER_08 (40:12):
Yeah, I might I might do that because it's about
the product and it's anintegrity of the product.
It's not but they you know theydo this all the time.
And Amazon is even cracked downon people for doing this.
They did it in on their uh acouple a few years back.
They did a crackdown on yeah, Idon't think they do that
anymore, though.
They probably don't.

SPEAKER_07 (40:32):
Because I I look at these five-star reviews now.

SPEAKER_05 (40:34):
No, that's literally everybody.
I mean, that's all of TikTokshop.

SPEAKER_07 (40:37):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (40:37):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 (40:38):
Yeah.
So look at the brand new eggscrambler.

SPEAKER_05 (40:46):
I never buy anything, but I'm like, man, one
day.

SPEAKER_08 (40:49):
Wow.
What's the problem with this?
It it creates a it creates asystem that you can't trust,
right?

SPEAKER_05 (40:56):
Right.
But you know, that's just on meto do better.

SPEAKER_08 (41:00):
It's kind of it's kind of like I said, I'm not
buying the exit.
It's kind of like positivereviews being done by employees
of the restaurant or theorganization or something.
Oh, I love this place.
This place Michaela was the bestserver ever put in the city.

SPEAKER_07 (41:14):
But you know this has been going on for 67 years.
Right?
I mean, I mean, this is this isinfomercial.

SPEAKER_08 (41:19):
The infomercial is the first version.
Yeah, this is as old as theother profession, that's the
oldest profession.
Okay, there you go.
What's what's that one?

SPEAKER_07 (41:26):
Uh, we don't need to talk about that right now.
All right, thank you, Mike, fortheir mesmerizing moment.
Up next, we have this week intechnology.
So now be a great time to enjoya little whiskey on the side as
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Like us and subscribe.

SPEAKER_07 (42:43):
That's it.
That's it.
That's that simple.

SPEAKER_03 (42:47):
And now, let's look back at this week in technology.

SPEAKER_07 (42:52):
Alright, we go back to October 5th, 2011.
Steve Jobs passed away.
After a long battle withpancreatic cancer, technology
visionaire and founder of AppleComputer, Steve Jobs, passed
away.
Jobs contributed to thetechnology industry, was
undeniable.
Together with Steve Wozniak,Steve Jobs started the personal

(43:13):
computer revolution with theirApple II computer.
After being forced out of Apple,Jobs went on to found Next Inc.
And then purchased Pixar, acompany that redefined the
animated motion pitcher industryuntil it was purchased by Disney
and then it went down the otherhill.
Oh, sorry.
Okay, continue on.
In 1997, the Apple purchasedNext, which bought uh Steve Jobs

(43:33):
back into Apple, and thetechnology developed at Next was
used to found the Apple's futureoperating system, the Max OS X
and iOS, by introducing theiPhone and iPad.
Steve Jobs ended the PC era andhe created the new kickstart to
the world of technology and ledApple from the brink of collapse
to the most valuable company inthe world today.

(43:55):
Okay, I have to ask a question.

SPEAKER_09 (43:57):
What's that?
Why, Odie, do you find that sofunny?
Well our poor man died.

SPEAKER_05 (44:06):
I don't remember this.
We us talking about this in themeeting.
So I was expecting some randompiece of technology.

SPEAKER_07 (44:12):
What?
We talked about this.

SPEAKER_05 (44:14):
I don't remember this at all.

SPEAKER_07 (44:16):
Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_05 (44:17):
I remember the Apollo 13.

SPEAKER_07 (44:19):
I remember such a Yeah, that we had already done
that one, so we decided to dothis one.

SPEAKER_05 (44:22):
I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 (44:23):
Just your cohort Gwen suggested we do this one.
It was a good show.
Okay, all right.
Okay.
I'm glad to know that Odie'spaying attention on our
production meetings there, Mike.
What does that tell you?
There's this.

SPEAKER_09 (44:32):
I did pay attention because I I don't pay attention
in the production meeting.

SPEAKER_07 (44:36):
What are you talking about?
Okay.

SPEAKER_09 (44:37):
That was this week in technique.

SPEAKER_07 (44:38):
I just think it's funny that she's laughing when
you said that.
All right.
That was this week intechnology.
Have you ever wanted to watchsome Tech Time history with over
260 plus weekly broadcastsspanning our five plus years of
video, podcasts, and bloginformation, you can visit us at
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We're going to take a commercialbreak.
When we return, we have MarkMumble's whiskey review.

(44:58):
See you after this.

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SPEAKER_03 (45:25):
The segment we've been waiting all week for.

SPEAKER_10 (45:34):
You know, Nathan, this has been a very informative
show.
I learned two things about Odietoday.
What'd you learn?
I learned that she doesn't payattention in production
meetings.
That's not true.
And I learned that she's broke.

SPEAKER_09 (45:46):
She's broke.

SPEAKER_07 (45:49):
That take you today to learn that?
Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_09 (45:52):
I paid attention today.
Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_08 (45:54):
For some people, it takes a while.
All right, okay, that's allright.

SPEAKER_10 (45:57):
So today's September 30th.
What are we celebrating today?
We are all celebrating today.
All four of us are celebratingtoday.
Cheap mattress day.
Odie's in the background.
He's laughing at it.

SPEAKER_07 (46:11):
He's already drinking with Drink with Friends
Day.
Well, that's a good one, but no.

SPEAKER_05 (46:15):
That's actually a smart one coming from you.

SPEAKER_09 (46:18):
Sounds really good.
Wow, thank you.
It's National Tuesday Day.
Oh, National Tuesday.

SPEAKER_05 (46:24):
Imagine.

SPEAKER_09 (46:25):
Imagine that.
It is.
It's a TTT.
Drum roll here.
International Podcast Day.
Oh, okay.
All those podcasters.

SPEAKER_07 (46:35):
Don't get me started on podcasters.
You are one.
I know, I get it.
I get it.
But everybody I meet, when I saythat we do a radio show and a
podcast, they all tell me, Oh,yeah, I've done one too.
And then I the first questionI'll ask is how many episodes
did you do?
If you did more than five, thenthat's amazing.
I've done one or two.
So no, you did not.

(46:55):
So you're not a podcaster.
A guest speaker, then you'rejust a guest speaker.
You're not doing a podcast.
You're doing a guest speaker.
But if you've only done one ortwo podcasts, that does not make
you a podcast.

SPEAKER_08 (47:08):
Yeah, you you got them wound up on that one.

SPEAKER_10 (47:10):
So radio may have dominated the 20th century, but
the 21st belongs to podcasts.
The word podcast comes from amashup of iPod and broadcasting.

SPEAKER_07 (47:20):
It did.

SPEAKER_10 (47:21):
The iPod itself is long gone, but its name namesake
Media lives on stronger thanever as we celebrate modern
storytelling storytelling of apodcast.
Now, on International PodcastDay, it's only fitting that
Mickter's story has its ownspotlight.
Micter's Distillery Story,episode 178 of TC After Dark

(47:42):
Podcast.
Okay.
The episode highlights AndreaWilson in her dual role as
master of maturation and COO,giving listeners direct insight
onto how Micter's manages boththe art and operation of aging
whiskey.

SPEAKER_07 (47:57):
Okay, so explain to me the TC podcast.

SPEAKER_10 (48:00):
It's a podcast of uh woman who does a podcast on all
different subjects, and one ofthem she did the Mickters story
and talked about their wholedistilling.
All right, perfect.
Now I thought you were gonnaproduction.
I thought you were gonna askwhat is a master of maturation.

SPEAKER_07 (48:14):
Oh, what's a master of You wouldn't know what
maturity means.
Maturation.

SPEAKER_10 (48:22):
Thank you.
This is a person responsible foroverseeing how whiskey ages over
time in the barrel.
It is specialized roll that sitsalongside the master distiller,
but focuses on the afterdistillation stage.
Okay.
All right, that makes sense.
Okay.
Now, Minter's Barrel StrengthRye 2025, which we are drinking
today, is bold at barrel-proof,yet impressively balanced.

(48:44):
Caramel and oak open the palatefor me, followed by black cherry
and rice spice with a warm,lingering finish that really
shows depth.
That was my sexy voice.
Okay.
I'm gonna screw it away from youright now.
It's a kind of pour that remindsyou, patience pays.
And second pours come faster.

(49:04):
Oh, okay.
There you go.
All right.

SPEAKER_07 (49:06):
Oh, he's still waiting for a second.

SPEAKER_10 (49:07):
Everybody's glass is empty right now.
I think that says a lot.

SPEAKER_07 (49:10):
It does, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 (49:11):
Everybody's sitting here going, where's the second
pour?
Where's the second glass?

SPEAKER_07 (49:14):
We should be doing that during the next commercial
break.
All right.
You know what, Mark?

SPEAKER_10 (49:18):
Thanks for that mumble.

SPEAKER_07 (49:20):
You're welcome, Nathan.
All right, you know what?
Whiskey and technology.
Such a great pairing.
Just like pumpkin pie andwhipped cream.
You like pumpkin pie?

SPEAKER_05 (49:30):
You're a month too early, man.

SPEAKER_08 (49:33):
This is a name, this is a Nathan pairing.
No, let me just tell you.

SPEAKER_09 (49:35):
He either goes really weirdly obscure and or he
he likes Okay, cut and faceguys.
Well, I'll take that back, so itdepends.

SPEAKER_10 (49:41):
So most pumpkin pies I will not eat, except it's my
wife's, because she uses realpumpkin for the mash.
Most people use the you don'tuse Miss Costco.
You don't like Miss Costco?
No.
Five dollars.

SPEAKER_09 (49:53):
Five dollar pumpkin pie.
Yes.
Oh, it's so good.

SPEAKER_07 (49:57):
You go in.
Because it's five dollars orfive.
Because it's five dollars.
It's just it's just like as amattress.
And what you do is you put it inthe freezer a little bit so that
it can be really extra chilled.
You just put it in there, notenough to freeze it.
You don't want to freeze it, butjust to get it extra chilled and
much better than therefrigerator.

SPEAKER_10 (50:16):
No.
That'd make a good little shortfor you there.

SPEAKER_07 (50:21):
That sounds like a fail there.
But you know what?
Speaking of fails, let's move onto our technology fail of the
week.
Congratulations.

SPEAKER_06 (50:28):
You're a failure.
Oh, I failed.
Did I?
Yes.
Did I?
Yes.

SPEAKER_07 (50:35):
All right.
Our technology failed comes tous from a bit large company
called Google.
Have you ever heard of thatcompany?
No.
All right.
Well, Brickstone Mauer has beenused to steal U.S.
org's data for over a year as asuspected Chinese hackers have
used the malware in a long-termpersistent espionage operation
against U.S.
governments, organizations,small business, and large

(50:57):
businesses in the technology andlegal sectors.
Brickstorm, a geo-based backdoordocumented by Google in April of
2024, following China-relatedintrusions that spawned from
various edge devices and remainundetected in the victim's
environment for more than a yearon an average.
The malware served as a webserver, file manipulation tool,

(51:18):
a dropper, SOX Relay, a shellcommand execution tool.
And according to Google ThreatIntelligence Group, GTIG, the
attackers used Brickstorm tosilently siphon data from their
victims' networks for an averagetime of 393 days before being
detected.
The researchers confirmed thecompromised organizations in the
legal and technology sector,software as a service providers,

(51:41):
and also business processoutsourcers.
Time will tell, but this malwareis expected to have affected
thousands to hundreds ofthousands of mid to large size
businesses.

SPEAKER_08 (51:51):
There you go.
Well, that's why you're gettingemails about your email being on
the dark web.

SPEAKER_09 (52:02):
No, no, no.

SPEAKER_08 (52:02):
When you ask that question, it's it's excellent.

SPEAKER_09 (52:05):
Are we out of time?

SPEAKER_07 (52:06):
Yeah, you know what?
We're almost out of time.
That doesn't make us feel verygood there, does it?
Now, you know what though?
Let's move on to the NathanNugget.

SPEAKER_04 (52:16):
This is your Nugget of the Week.

SPEAKER_07 (52:18):
All right, we talked about our first devices, the
Raspberry Pi computer for 200bucks.
Now we're gonna talk about thelong-awaited Asus-produced ROG
Xbox Ally console.
There's two of them and they'relaunching on October 16th.
Presales have already started.
And guess what?
Presales are still available,they have not sold out.

(52:40):
I was gonna say, I didn't thinkXbox was hot.
That's just like an old man'sthing.

SPEAKER_09 (52:44):
Well, just watch the commercial.

SPEAKER_07 (52:46):
If you watch the commercials for the new Xbox,
this is the portable Xbox, likethe Switch, you can take with
you.
Watch all their promo videos.
Yeah, it's uh or it's asouped-up version of the Steam
Deck, but actually I have aSteam Deck and I like it much
better than I do this device.
Um, when you see all thecommercials, very interesting
target demographic that they'rehitting.
Every single one of them arepeople over the age of 40.

(53:08):
You got gray-haired peoplesaying, Wow, this is cool.
So clearly they're not targetingthe younger demographic.
I guess they're trying to targetme, but they are not going to
target me with this price point.
Now, the new ROG is it's X Asus,which is known as the official
Xbox handheld for the Raisin AIZ2 Extreme processor, 24 gigs

(53:30):
and a one terabyte SSD AMDprocessor$999.
$999.
Now the Switch costs$499, right?
So I mean so this is double theprice of your Switch device.
Now this is the closest thing toa portable Xbox.

(53:50):
Unlike the Nintendo Switch orSteam Deck, this device actually
runs Windows 11, which means youcan play PC games and tap
directly into the Xbox GamePass, giving players access to
hundreds of Xbox titles on thego.
Odie just needs to play you out.
It's powered by AMDs.
Hang on, I don't know.
Hang on, it's powered by AMDs.
Let him speak.
The Raisin's Extreme Processor,24 gigabytes.

(54:14):
This is a seven-inch full HDdisplay running at 120 Hertz, so
games look smooth andresponsive.
One of the biggest challenges isMicrosoft's new handheld gaming
mode, the full screen Xbox styleinterface that hides the usual
Windows clutter.
When you boot it up, you'regreeted with a console-like menu
ready to launch your gamestraight away.
And now you don't have to worryabout dropping into the Windows

(54:35):
desktop um UI, and you canimmediately get it going.
Now the Ally doesn't supportexternal GPUs like the first ROG
Ally, but it makes up for itwith better battery life,
really.
Streamlined controls.
Okay, you have a controllerbuilt on the screen.
And full access to the Xboxecosystem.
In short, it's the portable Xboxand a PC all in one, perfect for

(54:57):
gamers who want AAA titles intheir backpack.

SPEAKER_10 (55:01):
He's trying to sell crap.

SPEAKER_09 (55:02):
I don't know.
There you go.
So the Xbox.

SPEAKER_10 (55:05):
Now, does this hurt you down in your soul?
Because you worked on theoriginal Xbox.

SPEAKER_07 (55:09):
This actually has to hurt.
This absolutely hurts.
The whole idea of the Xboxoriginal, you know, was that it
was like a PC component.
You can modify, you could do abunch of stuff.
You could crack the old originalXboxes.
I have cracked Xboxes myselfwith all the game libraries
loaded.
I mean, it it's a great system.
You know, I had works.
Yeah, and you and you like yourXbox, don't you, Mike?

SPEAKER_08 (55:30):
Uh I do, but you know, it's hooked up to a
64-inch TV.
Okay.
You know how often I play it?
How often?
Very not often.

SPEAKER_07 (55:37):
Very not often.

SPEAKER_08 (55:38):
No, I usually use my PC.

SPEAKER_07 (55:39):
Do you project your PC to your TV?

SPEAKER_08 (55:41):
Uh no, because there's a lag.
Okay.

SPEAKER_07 (55:44):
Okay.
All right.
That makes sense.

SPEAKER_08 (55:45):
So I I just look at my screen.

SPEAKER_07 (55:47):
Now they also have a smaller version of this Xbox
that's the white version.
So the black version is the$999souped-up version.
They have a cheaper version thatis the white version that you
can get for almost half theprice.
But I I still wouldn't pay it.

SPEAKER_05 (56:01):
Of a mobile one?

SPEAKER_07 (56:01):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (56:02):
So it's inferior.
It's$59 or$4.99.

SPEAKER_09 (56:05):
It's$599.
It's$599.

SPEAKER_05 (56:06):
So that's not even half.
Well, that's$600.

SPEAKER_07 (56:10):
What that is.
What's the difference?

SPEAKER_05 (56:11):
Versus a thousand.

SPEAKER_07 (56:12):
Yes.
Well, no, the$999.
They try to get you under thethousand by the time you pay
taxes.

SPEAKER_08 (56:18):
They've been talking to Zuckerberg, huh?
What's that?
You know, like with the.

SPEAKER_07 (56:21):
No, Zuckerberg, I can get a whole virtual reality
system.

SPEAKER_08 (56:25):
Isn't this VR system?
Didn't it come out as as like$400 I can have a whole VR
system?
Wait, what was the one that'slike$3,000?
Apple is the same.
That was Apple.
Okay.
That was Apple.
Okay, they've been talking toApple.
All right.

SPEAKER_05 (56:38):
I just looked it up.
In 2004, when the original DScame out, it was$150.

SPEAKER_07 (56:43):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (56:44):
Which in today's money would be$258.

SPEAKER_07 (56:46):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (56:47):
And I feel like I would still pay close to$300 for
a DS console.

SPEAKER_08 (56:53):
At some point, this just gets to be ridiculous.

SPEAKER_05 (56:57):
What,$800 for the full bundle?
Yeah.
I don't think that's worth it,in my opinion.
Especially with the fact thatyou can't own any games.
You can't, you know, you have toplay that a whole heck.
You have to have a pass for likethe whole family to be playing
with other people online.
Yeah.
Like it's ridiculous.
To use that whole chat feature.
Like, why?

SPEAKER_10 (57:14):
It's tariff.

SPEAKER_05 (57:15):
Right.

SPEAKER_07 (57:16):
No, okay.
No.
So what happens is if theconsumer buys these devices.
Now it's gonna be veryinteresting.
Nobody's buying this device.
I mean, it is still availablefor pre-sale on.
You can go to Amazon and get it,you can go to Best Buy and get
it.

SPEAKER_05 (57:30):
This device will not be a shame because Xbox does a
decent job with their products,but this is just an insane price
hike that is ridiculous.

SPEAKER_08 (57:38):
This is just this is just another factor of corporate
greed trying to get stuff out ofyour pocket.

SPEAKER_05 (57:43):
Now, thinking about it, it would be nice in the
sense if I can like cast it ontomy TV, and that way I have an
Xbox without that big hunk ofjunk standing behind it.

SPEAKER_07 (57:52):
That's the only like I think it's a hunk of junk.

SPEAKER_05 (57:55):
You just look at it.
You don't even play it.

SPEAKER_07 (57:59):
So you'd have to get another third-party docking
station.
And they haven't actuallyreleased the docking station as
officially.
How long is the battery life?
Uh four to six hours.

unknown (58:07):
What?

SPEAKER_08 (58:08):
That's not even that's not even the average
gaming day.

SPEAKER_07 (58:10):
So you're you're in the middle of your Call of Duty
and all of a sudden you shootand boom, and then all of a
sudden your screen goes dark.

SPEAKER_05 (58:16):
For a thousand dollars.
Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_07 (58:18):
But you're gonna be probably playing with it plugged
in.

SPEAKER_05 (58:20):
And then especially with what, Nintendo games are
now eighty dollars?
Imagine how and it how much areXbox games?

SPEAKER_07 (58:26):
Uh Xbox games, I just well, I don't know.
No, because I just got the newMadden 26 for 35 bucks.
So I got the new Madden 26 onsale.

SPEAKER_08 (58:35):
Did you get the percent on but you got that on
your on your regular Xbox?
Did you buy it from the regularuh marketplace or did you buy it
from your your your former nonot my not that not the company
employee deal?

SPEAKER_07 (58:48):
Okay, no, it was it was because it's not a
Microsoft.

SPEAKER_05 (58:51):
Is that the full the is that the full price though?

SPEAKER_07 (58:53):
Uh the full price was 60 bucks.
So they had on sale 50% off.

SPEAKER_05 (58:56):
$60.

SPEAKER_07 (58:56):
Yeah, yeah.
But if you wait that's normal.
You just need to wait threeweeks after a game comes on out
because then all of a sudden itgoes down 20%.
That's that's the new Nathan.
Or you can do it on Steam wherethey that's a good Nathan nutty.
All right, let's talk whiskey.
You know what now?
Let's move to our pick of theday, whiskey tasting.

SPEAKER_04 (59:14):
And now our pick of the day for our whiskey
tastings.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop.

SPEAKER_10 (59:21):
Usually I say we are drinking, but I should say we
have drank Mick Durle BarrelBarrel Strength Rye 2025.
It's a straight rye.
It is this bottle is 112.6proof, and MSRP is 120.
Now I will say when we I lookback at our last one review,
which was two years ago, um,that price was 110.

(59:43):
So it's gone up ten dollars, butthe the market, the black market
of it was at$350.
Okay.
And now they're they're not thatmuch higher than the ones
they're maybe one hundred fifty,one seventy.
Okay.
So secondary market has tipped alittle bit on this?
Tipped on whiskey.
So This is a good time to go outand start getting those higher
end ones if you can afford it.

SPEAKER_08 (01:00:03):
All right.
Mike was thumbs up after buyingyour Xbox handheld.
Uh, you can't afford anything.

SPEAKER_07 (01:00:09):
You gotta drink Canadian mist then.
Oh no.
Hell no.
That's the no, you did not.
Nobody deserves to have Canadianmist.
That's the that's the worst thatthat that's out there.

SPEAKER_08 (01:00:18):
Uh thumbs up for me.

SPEAKER_07 (01:00:20):
Thumbs up, Mike.
It's really good tasting.
Thumbs up.
Thumbs up.
Odie puts a thumbs up.

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:24):
Yeah, I liked it.

SPEAKER_07 (01:00:25):
Is this on your shelf at home?

SPEAKER_10 (01:00:27):
Mark?
Um, it was until after this showbecause we just killed my butt
my bottle.
Okay.
I got I got my backup bottle,but this is going back into the
Odie can't get out every time.
All right, okay.
Well, Mike, Mark, no.

SPEAKER_07 (01:00:41):
We're all about out of time.
We want to thank our listenersfor joining the program.
Listeners, we want you to hearfrom you.
Visit us at techtime radio.com,click on be a caller, ask us a
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Just say hi.
You know what?
Just say hi.
We have we see a thousand someodd people in there, and nobody
talks to us.
That makes me feel very sad.

(01:01:02):
So please say hi to us.
Give us a like.
And it was an honor to be thehost of today's show.
Oh, we need tips too.
And we need tips.
We are here to decode thetechnology that shapes your
world.
One breach, breakthrough, andbourbon at a time.
See you next week.
Later.
Bye-bye.

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