What do a $500B AI valuation, mid‑match game ads, and a driverless traffic stop have in common? They all expose the gap between shiny innovation and the infrastructure, policy, and psychology that actually make tech work—or break trust.
We open with OpenAI’s eye‑popping valuation and go beneath the headline to the parts no press release glamorizes: data centers, power, cooling, fiber, and GPU supply. With partners like Nvidia, Oracle, and Microsoft shaping access, we unpack why AI will likely consolidate around a few players and what that means for startups burning cash on compute. From there, we challenge the classic “my phone is listening” myth. Instagram’s chief says no, and we explain why your ads still feel psychic: cross‑app tracking, pixels, cookies, SDKs, and identity graphs that stitch your behavior together better than a hot mic ever could.
Snapchat’s move to charge for Memories over 5 GB hits a nerve. We talk about the end of “free forever,” how to export your data cleanly, and why local storage and physical media are making a quiet comeback as people hedge against shifting terms. Then the wild card: a free, ad‑supported tier for cloud gaming. We explore how interrupting live sessions could nudge upgrades—or kill trust—and what smart implementations might look like if Microsoft wants to keep gamers loyal. A quick detour into our favorite segment, Two Truths and a Lie, proves once again that “too dumb to be real” is no longer a safe bet.
The Tech Fail may be the most telling: California police stop a Waymo for an illegal U‑turn and have no one to ticket. It’s funny, but it’s a governance problem—who’s liable when there’s no driver? We argue for clear frameworks before edge cases become norms. And for sports fans, we dig into automated ball‑strike challenges moving toward the majors, weighing precision against the theater of human officiating, and drawing parallels to football’s quiet shift away from chains to computer measurement.
Along the way, Mike breaks down how modern marketing leans on cognitive biases more than secret microphones, and we wrap with a blind bourbon upset that proves labels fool palates as easily as hype fools markets. If you care about AI, privacy, gaming, autonomy, or the future of sports tech, this one’s packed.
If you enjoyed this, follow and subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a quick review—what shift are you most ready for: fewer AI players, fewer ads, or fewer bad calls?
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whiskey tastings.
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whiskies to taste to continueon our special advent calendar.
I just got the 2025 version, sowe got another whole year of
tastings to do.
But now it's time for thelatest headlines in the world of
technology.
Announcement (02:41):
Here are our top technology stories of the week.
Nathan (02:45):
All right.
OpenAI is now worth $500billion.
B-I L-L-I-O-N.
You like that?
Yeah, yeah.
You uh you can spell.
I can spell.
All right.
Well, guess what?
We're gonna listen to what LisaWalker has to talk about this
most valuable startup company.
Announcement (03:05):
OpenAI could now be the world's most valuable
startup, ahead of Elon Musk'sSpaceX and TikTok's parent
company, ByteDance, after asecondary stock sale designed to
retain employees.
Current and former OpenAIemployees sold $6.6 billion in
shares to a group of investors,pushing the privately held
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artificial intelligencecompany's valuation to $500
billion.
The investors buying the sharesincluded Thrive Capital,
Dragoneer Investment Group, andT Row Price, along with Japanese
tech giant Softbank, and theUnited Arab Emirates' MGX.
Nathan, what do you think aboutSam Altman and his company now?
(03:48):
Back to you guys in the studio.
Nathan (03:51):
Oh wow, I got Lisa coming after me, too.
Mike (03:54):
Okay, Lisa.
Well, that's your bromance.
Nathan (03:56):
I know.
All right.
I do like the overall valuationthat reflects the high
expectation in the future of AItechnologies.
But my concern is what happensif this AI bubble crashes?
You know, we we kind of beentalking about this a little bit.
I I'm going to kind of predict,and I don't know if it's really
a prediction or such, but I dobelieve we're going to have an
(04:16):
AI bubble that's going tohappen.
And you're going to have two orthree of the large companies
succeed in this bubble, and allthese little startups with all
these billions of dollars andinvestors are going to lose
everything they have because Idon't think the world's able to
handle 10 or 15 AI companies.
I think we're going to go downto our normal standard of two or
three major companies that playin the space and everybody else
(04:38):
that kind of just dabbles.
Mike (04:40):
In order to run these things, you have to have m data
farms, right?
You do.
You have to have data farms.
And all these little companies,can they have these big data?
No, they can't keep up.
Nathan (04:50):
So we'll talk about Sam Altman, my buddy.
You know, he's he was just inTexas looking and did a tour of
a massive data center that'sgoing to be able to run his
company's AI systems.
So this is a big deal.
You have to have theinfrastructure to run this.
Then you have to have keyprocessor companies like Nvidia
or Intel or one of these thingsto work with.
(05:10):
And guess what?
It just so happens that uh uhSam Altman has worked really
well with Oracle and Softbankand the chipmaker NVIDIA to make
all these specialized AI chipsjust for his specific data
centers.
He also has this longtimebacking company uh by the name
of Microsoft.
I don't know if you've everheard of them.
Yeah, they're busy right now.
(05:31):
Yeah, they're kind of busyright now.
Mike (05:33):
They did something bad and people are upset about it.
Nathan (05:35):
We're gonna be talking about that today, too.
I think.
I do think we're gonna betalking about that.
So it's interesting.
The San Francisco-basedcompany, OpenAI, is gonna go
public.
They are trying to retain theirtop talent, which I think
they're gonna do just fine.
And there's gonna be billionsof dollars poured into research
and development to see who cancontrol the AI.
Now, speaking of this, guesswhat movie I watched last night?
(05:57):
The Terminator.
I did.
I watched Terminator 2 lastnight, and you know what?
I watched that, and then Ithink of AI, and I'm just like,
wow, could Hollywood havepredicted, and it's gotta be
Terminator 2, not the first one.
I don't like the first one asmuch, but Terminator 2.
What could they have predictedthat AI will take over?
I mean, the whole thing isrobots take over, and and you
(06:18):
have uh Arnold Reddit.
Mike (06:21):
I think we're all pretty familiar with the concept of
Terminator 2.
Nathan (06:24):
I just want to make sure everybody's uh has anybody not
watched Odie?
Have you watched Terminator 2?
Ody (06:28):
No, I haven't, but but I was going to say that this
directly references 2001's TheSpace Odyssey.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nathan (06:35):
AI is gonna take over, so we'll see.
You know what?
Mike (06:37):
But there's only room for a few.
Now just we're gonna pal nevermade a mistake.
He didn't.
It's it's right there in themovie.
He he was perfect.
Ody (06:46):
And but he still went against the human race.
Mike (06:50):
Oh no.
Nathan (06:50):
The human race is always bad.
If you ever notice the AIs arelike, you guys kill each other,
you guys are mean to each other.
Mike (06:56):
We are we are bad, but that that's the point of this
whole thing.
So the whole we created AI.
The whole the whole yeah,that's right.
The point of this whole idea isthat we create this thing that
destroys us.
That destroys us.
Yep, right.
So that's kind of the reverse.
It's kind of the reverse of thewhole Garden of Eden thing.
It is.
There you go.
Nathan (07:14):
Well, guess what?
ChatGPT is all over thisbecause it's got Etsy and
Shopify that now have integratedinto ChatGPT.
So if you use ChatGPT and youwant to buy something, soon
you'll be able to get on Etsyand Shopify.
And so the AI generating videouh service is now available for
everyone.
You don't have to be on theirpremium plans, but you can go
and you can create AI videos.
(07:34):
Have you seen any of these AIvideos?
No.
Oh, these AI videos are justthe it I love.
Ody (07:41):
What's your favorite one?
Nathan (07:43):
I love well, I love the ones where the dogs have you
seen the with dogs runningaround the snow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh no, have you seen the dogsin the snow?
Ody (07:49):
No.
Nathan (07:50):
So the dog soar is one of the their videos, they have
dogs in the snow that as theirdeal.
And what's amazing is the doggoes from four legs to two
instantaneously as he's jumpingin the snow.
I love AI videos and quitebecause they're bad.
Yes, because they have theseairs.
And they're noticeable.
Mike (08:08):
I know they're noticeable.
They're noticeable airs thatare one of my one of my favorite
ones is uh someone did a a nicelittle kind of caricature of
themselves.
Yeah.
And you know, they're dressedin like armor and holding a
shield, and their sword is a sextoy.
Ody (08:25):
Oh.
Mike (08:26):
Oh, wow.
Ody (08:27):
Okay, that could be on purpose.
Mike (08:29):
No, that wasn't.
It wasn't.
It wasn't on purpose.
It was the AI interpretingthings.
Did you it was that a pictureof you or something?
No, it was uh a nerd, nerdbuddy of mine.
A nerd buddy, and he sent itout to everybody all happy.
Yeah, he was like, Look at whatAI just did, and this is cool.
And I was everybody startedlaughing and goes, What's
matter?
Look at what you're holding inyour hand.
Oh boy.
Nathan (08:50):
All right, well, we'll see what happens when this uh
not-for-profit or non-profitdecides to be a for-profit.
All right.
Story number two, Mike.
I think you can bring up thethe excitement in the level
here.
Yeah, no, I'm just gonna becomplaining about stuff.
So you realize you complainedabout the same company last
week.
And I went to the week before,and you complained about you
(09:10):
know what this company is likeright in your suits.
Mike (09:14):
So this has got to be Yeah.
I mean, I I think technologyshould be useful, and these are
not.
Okay.
Instagram.
Oh, meta again.
Oh, and meta again.
Yep.
Hey, it says uh your company ortheir company is not using your
microphone to listen to you.
I guess that's a big thing.
Okay.
I've thought that.
(09:35):
Have you ever thought that'sbecause that's because you uh
are talking about something andsuddenly it pops up on your
phone or your screen orwhatever.
Yep.
This is supposed to be a myth.
Okay.
Right?
And uh Adam Moseri, I guessthat's his how you pronounce it,
posted on his account Wednesdayto dispel that myth that the
social networking giant isactively listening to its users
(09:58):
surreptitiously.
That means secretly for Nathanin order to target them with
relevant ads.
The idea that Meta wouldsecretly turn on the microphone
on users' phones to record theirconversations is an age-old
conspiracy theory, and one thatthe company has disputed before.
Ironically, Moseri's new mythbusting claim comes just as Meta
(10:23):
has announced it will soontarget ads to users across its
social apps using data collectedfrom their interactions with
its AI products.
I think that's what he sayshere coming up too, right?
Probably.
In other words, Meta didn'tneed to record your
conversations because you'regoing to be giving your
(10:46):
information away.
That's right.
He also points out thatsometimes it's not technology
alone that's driving thehyperaccurate recommendations.
Either just a coincidence or abit of human psychology at play.
Okay, that's BS.
Well, are you are you sure?
Nathan (11:02):
The psychology, it's just human psychology.
Mike (11:05):
No, the coincidence is uh no.
There this is Oh yeah.
He says you might not add ithave actually seen it that ad
before you had the conversationand not realized it.
He points out we scrollquickly, we scroll by ads
quickly, and sometimes youinternalize some of that, and
that actually affects what youtalk about later.
(11:26):
That is true.
Okay, okay, because we have uhwe have an active part of our
mind and an inactive well, notno, I'm gonna backtrack on that.
We have an awake part of ourmind and a and a part of our
mind that is always looking forstuff that's our subconscious or
unconscious, all right.
And he's talking about theunconscious.
(11:48):
We pick up on things and thenwe store it for later.
And that's kind of what yourdreams are.
Uh let's see.
Where was I?
On Instagram, Moseri says thathe's had a number of
conversations about metalistening to his users, many of
whom can't believe how well thecompany's ad targeting actually
works.
By now, most of us have eitherhad the experience ourselves, or
(12:10):
at least know somebody whoclaims that meta must have been
secretly recording them, to knowthat they were likely to click
on something.
Sometimes you were onlythinking about a topic or
product and then see the contentappear in your feed, making it
seem as if Meta is a mindreader.
Company has repeatedly disputedthese claims, trying to explain
that it doesn't have to recordyour conversations to make its
(12:32):
recommendations so successful.
Nathan (12:34):
Okay.
Mike (12:35):
You know?
It's like when you get onAmazon and you order, you know,
a toilet seat, yeah, andsuddenly they want you to buy
more toilet seats.
Okay.
Nathan (12:47):
So they're just saying that their algorithm is so good
that they don't have to be amind reader.
Do you believe that?
Ody (12:53):
No.
And I thought I thought it'sbeen proven that they track your
your like keystrokes.
Uh like what you type in.
Nathan (13:02):
Well, it depends on what page you're on.
It depends on what cookieyou've been able to detect.
Ody (13:06):
Yeah, I don't believe that they listen to me, but they are
definitely tracking what I'mdoing on my phone.
Nathan (13:12):
Uh and if you're on their platforms and you're
typing stuff, I'm sure thatthey're actively keeping this
information.
Mike (13:17):
We have this going on on several platforms, but I'm
pretty sure they share theinformation amongst themselves.
Yeah.
They do.
So when I Google drill,Amazon's gonna get it.
Oh, yeah.
And then Meta's gonna get it.
And Meta sells it to Amazon.
Ody (13:30):
Yeah, that's too big of a coincidence that it's coming up
on Instagram, Facebook, andAmazon.
Nathan (13:36):
And now when you start going to AI search engines and
putting your stuff in there too,now it's creating this profile
of Nathan Mum, and he likesthis, this, this, this, this,
and this.
So then the open AI can thensell that data to somebody at a
later time so they can targetme.
Mike (13:49):
Netflix has been trying to do that for years, and then
they just I think they juststopped doing it.
I think the recommendations andthis just started recommending
their their crap.
Nathan (13:58):
Yeah, I think that absolutely, I think that's
exactly what they did.
All right, here we go.
Story number three SomeSnapchatters will have to pay to
keep their thousands of snapsstored on the app.
Now, I'm not a big uh Snapchatperson.
Are you a Snapchat person,Mike?
What what is Snapchat?
Okay, all right, but you knowwhat?
We do have the demographic inour studio here.
(14:19):
Are you a snap?
Are you a Snapchatter?
Oh, Odie, explain to me what ishappening with all these
Snapchats.
Ody (14:27):
So essentially, for the longest time since 2016, yeah,
anytime you would take a snapand you wanted to save it, you
could save it to your memories.
Okay.
And that has been somethingwhere it's always been like
advertised that it has no limit,you don't have to pay for
storage, and never had to worryabout that.
Snapchat is now coming outsaying that they are going to
(14:48):
start charging for people thathave more than five gigabytes
worth of memories in theirstorage.
Nathan (14:55):
How much do you worth?
Ody (14:56):
I have well, I've been saving since 2016.
Nathan (15:00):
So you use this regularly.
Ody (15:01):
Yeah, I've used this regularly.
And you have a lot of memories.
And Google Photos has beencharging you for storage.
So this has been like the onelittle thing that's been safe.
Free and safe and without worryabout it.
But now they're gonna startcharging what, three dollars a
month?
Mike (15:20):
Oh no.
So what are you gonna do?
Ody (15:22):
I'm not gonna do it.
Mike (15:24):
You're going to let them delete all of your photos.
Ody (15:27):
They are giving a year.
Nathan (15:29):
Yeah, uh, they have undisclosed when exactly, but
people have already been takingto the masses about this because
one trillion, supposedly,Snapchat says they have one
trillion memories that areavailable.
Ody (15:42):
Oh, I believe it.
Mike (15:43):
Okay.
Like see, this is I've I thinkyou talked about this on
Thursday.
This is what I've been saying.
You know, they they get youthis they're like drug pushers.
Ody (15:51):
Yeah, exactly.
Mike (15:52):
They get you hooked on their thing, they get you saving
it, they get you saving yourmemories and all these other
things, and then they comearound later and be like, pal,
hey, and the issue is you haveto pay for this now.
Ody (16:03):
People are really upset about this because there's also
what I think it's calledSnapchat Plus and Snapchat
Premium.
Nathan (16:09):
So they have other tiered services.
Ody (16:11):
Yeah, they have other tiered services, but I have not
given in the first time.
Nathan (16:14):
We should have marketed the pluses.
In episode two of tech time,episode two of Tech Time Radio,
Mike says on the air, episodetwo, you know what?
Everybody's gonna come out withplus versions and everything's
gonna be plus and plus plus.
Before it was happening, it'splus plus now.
It's plus plus, is what hesaid.
Mike (16:32):
All right.
I'm thinking that at some pointI'm hoping that all the people
around the world are just gonnaget tired of this and then
create a revolution and destroyall these.
Ody (16:45):
So that's what's interesting because my
generation, a lot of peopledon't want to pay for another
subscription service.
I mean, they're already payingfor Google photos and nobody
wants to pay for subscriptionservices and prime.
Nathan (16:56):
If we're on Prime, I'm on Prime, so you pay for a
Prime.
Ody (16:59):
And Snapchat, the funny thing right now is it's kind of
dying.
The what's keeping it there forme is the fact that I have
years worth of memories, andit's something where I don't
have to think about when Imessage other people.
It's it's very universal.
It doesn't matter if you're anAndroid user or Apple user,
you're there.
Nathan (17:17):
Okay.
Ody (17:17):
Um, but with the fact that they're doing this, people are
going to Apple store and givingit one-star reviews and just
complaining.
I will be deleting this app.
There's no chance of me buyingthe subscription or keeping up
with Snapchat afterward.
And honestly, I agree.
Nathan (17:32):
Okay.
Are you gonna delete it?
Do you know how to downloadyour stuff?
Ody (17:35):
No, but I'm going to tell you I've already looked it up.
Nathan (17:37):
Okay, so here we go.
For those that haven't lookedit up, good job, Odie.
What you need to do to you needto download your data from
Snapchat.
You need to open Snapchat orlog into the
accounts.snapchat.com.
Go to the app setting and lookfor the my data area.
Select what data you want todownload by selecting the date
range of the data.
Then you confirm your emailaddress and you hit submit.
(17:59):
Snapchat will then send you anemail in the next 24 to 48 hours
with a link for your data to bedownloaded.
Users can view recent exportshere, and any data downloaded
from the my data will be sent ina zip file.
You have four days to downloadthat, and then the file is no
longer available, and you'd haveto re-ask for it to happen
(18:20):
again.
So this is very common onFacebook.
This is very common onInstagram.
Yeah.
They give you a link.
You're gonna have to go andmake sure you download it.
It's gonna be categories justby the date range that you put
in there, and then you can haveyour data back.
Ody (18:34):
Yeah.
Nathan (18:35):
And you know what's gonna happen is people are gonna
buy portable storage at home.
People have and and that'spicking back up again.
This is, you know what?
This is a real good trend in1995 that people would buy these
big data stores to store theirstuff.
Ody (18:48):
It's something that we've talked about a lot that
eventually people are gonna getsick about subscriptions.
Yeah.
And it's starting to happenwithin the last couple of years,
especially when it comes tolike streaming music and
everything that's happening nowwith like social media and
whatnot.
But it's hilarious to me thatphysical media is coming back,
like cassette players and vinylrecords and just DVDs and
(19:09):
Blu-rays are like a hot thingnow again.
Flash drives are coming backand like those big uh what do
you call it?
Those external hard drives arecoming back.
Nathan (19:17):
Yeah, like a lacey drive or uh another external, yeah.
Ody (19:20):
Which is comical to me because the whole point of this
evolution of data and everythingis that we should have it all
at our fingertips.
Mike (19:27):
Yeah, that's that's being a good thing.
And now it's being monetized.
Because these thesecorporations overstepped
themselves.
Ody (19:37):
Okay, but Snapchat is dying, it's been dying for a
while.
And the fact that they'rewilling to pay influencers on
Snapchat so much amount of moneyinstead of and now charging
their main demographic of peoplewhen it's just a time.
Nathan (19:50):
Because people are lazy, so they're gonna get 50% of
these people to pay that.
And even if you get 50% of thepeople to do it, and let's say
you have a hundred thousandpeople that are there at three
bucks a pop, there's threehundred thousand dollars for the
first month.
It's kind of like postagestamps.
Yeah, I I haven't bought apostage stamp in a while.
Mike (20:07):
Are they going up?
Are they uh so when when uhemail came out, postage stamps
were you know like what 15, 25cents?
Nathan (20:16):
Well, I think there were 69 to 70 cents, but okay, yeah.
Mike (20:20):
So so people stopped using snail mail, yeah, and so they
started upping the price ofpostage stamps.
And then people uh now go tothe post office to I I don't
know.
That just popped into my head.
Let's just let's just move on.
Nathan (20:34):
All right, well, that is our top technology stories of
the week.
Next, we have a special treat,the game show that's sweeping
the nation on techtimeradio.com.
Uh we call it Two Truce and aLie.
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Is it real?
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Nathan (21:36):
All right.
Welcome back to Tech Time withNate the Mum.
Our weekly show covers the toptechnology subjects without any
political agenda.
We verify the facts, we do itwith a sense of humor in less
than 60 minutes, and of course,with a little whiskey on the
side.
Today, Mark Gregoire whiskeyconnoisseurs back for our taste
testing items.
Mark, what have you chosen forus today?
Marc (21:55):
Well, today we're doing the 2024 Flavor Advent Calendar.
We are in round three, which isthe semifinals.
This is the first of the twosemis.
All right.
So we're using the FlavorWhiskey Advent Calendar, which
had 24 remarkable whiskeys touse for a year-long blind
whiskey competition to see whichone Nathan and Mike like best.
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Oh.
Come along for the ride once amonth while they uncover new
tastes and train their senses tobecome true connoisseurs.
Today is the start of roundthree, our semifinals, as we
mentioned, where they willchoose the winner to move on to
the finals.
If they disagree, which Ialways enjoy, I am the deciding
vote.
Now, today's blind battle.
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Both pores come in at 100proof, but one leans on a single
six-year blend while the otherlayers together older barrels
from multiple states, making ita fun test of how different
paths at the same strength cantaste.
It is a perfect reminder thatproof alone never tells the
whole story, Nathan.
Okay.
(22:58):
Stay tuned to see which onewins out and advances from this
rank.
Mike (23:02):
I already know which one I like.
You didn't like either one ofthem.
Nathan (23:05):
I I no, I I I I I I you know what?
These are not as good as lasttime that we did the tasting, in
my opinion.
There's one of these that Ilike, and there's one of these
that I really don't like.
So interesting.
Did I say did I get both ofthese thumbs up previously?
Or did one of these slipthrough?
Ody (23:24):
You will have to wait till the mumbles.
Nathan (23:25):
I think one slipped through.
I think there's one in herethat I did not like.
Which one did you not liketoday?
Marc (23:29):
Uh I'm struggling with it.
Mike (23:31):
He's not liking this one.
No, no, no.
I like that one.
Oh, that's one.
That's the one.
Yeah.
Marc (23:35):
He likes one in the Glenn Karen, not in the beer glass.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Nathan (23:42):
All right.
Okay.
Well, with God.
Marc (23:44):
He tends to always like the Glenn Carens.
Do I really?
Mike (23:47):
Maybe it's just maybe it's just the way I do it.
It's your it's your buddy Moseror whatever his name is and
talking about his unconsciousad.
Nathan (23:58):
Our whiskey tasting completed.
Let's move on to our featuresegment.
Today we have our game show tosee if Mark, Mike, and Odie are
ready.
Marc (24:07):
Nathan is very excited about this.
Mike, he didn't even telleverybody to drink responsibly
because heaven didn't want to.
Nathan (24:12):
No, I'm sorry.
Okay, keep on going.
That's all right.
No, I'm done.
Marc (24:15):
I just want to remind our viewers it's very important to
drink responsibly out there.
Okay.
I am very excited.
I think I'm going to get youguys on this.
All right.
Mike (24:22):
All right.
This is the game show that'ssweeping Nathan's mantle end.
Nathan (24:26):
That's all right.
All right.
Let's start the next segment.
Welcome (24:29):
And now we have two truths and a lie.
Nathan (24:33):
All right.
I got three headlines here.
Two of these stories arecorrect.
And one of these stories isincorrect.
All right.
Listen up.
Mike (24:42):
What is going on over here?
Nathan (24:44):
Uh, I'm really excited about this because all these
stories are crazy.
All right.
Elon Musk, SpaceX, took moneydirectly from Chinese investors.
Company insiders testify.
The recent testimony comingfrom a SpaceX insider doing a
court case marks the first timedirect Chinese investment in the
privately held companies hasbeen disclosed.
(25:05):
Well, there's no um area thatsays they can be prohibited from
Chinese ownership.
Military contracts, such asinvestments, are heavily
regulated, and this issue iskind of a threat to the U.S.
government and significantnational security concerns.
Buying shares in SpaceX is muchmore difficult than buying a
piece of publicly tradedcompanies like Tesla or
(25:28):
Microsoft.
SpaceX has control over who canbuy stakes in it.
And the company's investorsfall into different categories.
The most rarefied group is thedirect investors who actually
own SpaceX shares.
So SpaceX has been sellingtheir shares to Chinese
investors.
Number one.
(25:49):
Number two, Microsoft adding anad-supported tier for Xbox
Cloud Gaming.
Xbox is planning to add a freead-supported tier to its cloud
gaming service, which meansyou'll be able to stream certain
games without paying a highprice.
With this, though, you'll haveto watch ads before and during
(26:09):
your games.
Just think of this.
If you're in the middle of afighting in an online game,
something pumping up.
All right.
Uh The Verge said, I understandthat the free ad-supported
version of Xbox Cloud Gamingwill be included with the
ability to stream some games youown as well as eligible free
play days titled.
But let's Xbox players try agame over the weekend.
(26:31):
You'll also be able to streamXbox Retro Classics, but your
gameplay might be interrupted inthe middle of your game for
ads.
Xbox Cloud Gaming is a keyoffering from Microsoft and
allows gamers to stream certaingames with the subscription.
The company recently had aprice hike with everything
pushing their monthly UltimateGame Pass up 50% to $29.99 per
(26:53):
month, almost the same price aslike streaming services.
That's story number two.
Story number three.
Tilly Norwood signs withHollywood Hollywood Studio Arc
Like Films.
In the days since she made herentrance during the Zurich Film
Festival presentation lastweekend, Tilly Norwood has been
the talk of the town.
(27:14):
The AI-generated actress, who'son her way to becoming a
household name, despite onlyappearing in one two-minute
comedy sketch, has yet conductedan interview.
Rioty said they've been told bythe publicist for Particle
Sick, the company that createdher, Tilly is not available to
speak at present time.
Tyler Merritt, chief technologyofficer at Houston-based
(27:35):
Unique, which dubs itself asperhaps the only talent agency
for AI human influencers, hasbooked Tilly Norwood with major
brands like uh Qatar Airways,which says they are currently
creating a backstory for Tillyat the moment.
Quitar.
That's Qatar.
Qatar Airways.
Sorry.
Quitar Airways.
(27:56):
All right.
Those are the three stories.
So you got Elon Musk, SpaceX,took money from Chinese
investors.
Tilly Norwood signs withHollywood Studios, Arc Light
Films.
And Microsoft is addingad-supported tier for Xbox Game
Cloud.
Alright.
Odie, I'm gonna go to youfirst.
(28:17):
Which one of those is true andwhich one of those is lie?
Ody (28:21):
I think the Xbox ad support tier is fake.
Nathan (28:26):
It's fake.
Okay.
Ody (28:27):
Though I I want to believe that we're not gonna hire an AI
thing.
It sounds plausible.
Plausible.
Nathan (28:37):
Plausible.
Okay.
Marc (28:38):
Mark, we'll go to you.
I'm gonna go with the uh Tillysigning on to a studio is false.
Oh, it's false with ArclightFilms.
Correct.
Nathan (28:49):
Do you know what that that studio is?
Uh no.
Okay.
Okay.
Alright, okay.
And Mr.
Gordet, you can either go withuh you can either go with the
SpaceX, Tilly Norwood, orMicrosoft Game Ads.
Mike (29:03):
This is a tough one because I think all of them are
plausible.
I'm I'm absolutely sure thatChina could have invested into
SpaceX.
I'm pretty sure Elon would haveallowed that because you know
he's Elon.
He's Elon.
Okay.
Of course, the richest man inthe world.
Ody (29:21):
Wants to get richer, why?
Mike (29:22):
Wants to get richer.
Wow.
Okay.
Uh I can I can believe thatsome studio is gonna hire an AI
generated actress.
I can believe that.
I can almost believe thatMicrosoft is willing to
interrupt your games with ads.
Well, that one seems the mostplausible to me.
Yeah, that that one's hardbecause that one that one is
(29:43):
definitely a stupid thing thatthat we have seen before, but
I'm going to say that it's justa little bit too on the stupid
side for Microsoft to make thatleap yet.
Okay.
Nathan (29:55):
Okay.
So we have we have two for X.
Fox Cloud Gaming, and we gotone for Tilly Norwood.
Is that your guys' finalanswers?
Sure.
Yeah.
He's gloating.
All right.
Here we go.
It is truth that Elon Musk hastaken directly money from
investors.
All right.
So I couldn't have figured thatout.
(30:18):
All right.
And the other true storyMicrosoft is adding ad support
here to Xbox Cloud.
Marc (30:26):
It was such a stupid thing.
There's no way Nathan couldmake that one up.
Mike (30:31):
Oh that was that was how I that was my struggle right
there.
Nathan (30:34):
They are going to allow free streaming for the Xbox
Cloud Servers.
So think if you're streaming agame and you're in the middle of
an online game, and all of asudden you get like a
progressive ad come across yourdeal and you get shot.
Mike (30:48):
Is that just the price of playing for free?
Ody (30:50):
That doesn't make sense to me.
Mike (30:52):
Well, it actually does when I'm thinking about it,
because if that happens, you'regoing to pay them for non-ad
games.
Yes, that's exactly correct.
It's another one of these, hey,let's screw you up so that you
actually pay for the adjust forwhat we want you to.
Marc (31:07):
When the ad comes up, it doesn't just pause the game and
freeze it.
No.
Nathan (31:11):
Well, I I I don't it was it was released uh two days
ago, so I don't know exactly howthey're planning to do it.
Ody (31:17):
See, I was expecting it like in between battles
personally.
Nathan (31:20):
No, well, they said that it says that it will interrupt
gameplay.
So there's no way if you'replaying like a Call of Duty game
and you're streaming it andit's a good thing.
Mike (31:28):
No, it's just it's just corporate just like in the
bottom.
Ody (31:32):
Arm force aggressive.
It's a snapshot too.
Nathan (31:36):
It's it's like a big protection scam.
Has not been assigned by StudioArc Light Films, which is an
indie film house, but they arein the process of finalizing
negotiations to purchase TillyNorwood's AI.
Mike (31:50):
So they're all true.
Yeah.
Nathan (31:51):
Well, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I said I said signs withHollywood.
There they are in negotiations.
Mike (31:57):
Okay, so here's here's how Nathan plays this game.
Marc (32:00):
Nathan takes the takes one thing and changes a word and
makes it makes it I I agree withthat, Mike, except on this one,
we did talk on a productionmeeting about Tilly and how they
she hadn't been signed yet.
She still has not been signed.
And there's only one study.
I even posted that in the chat.
Yes.
Mike (32:20):
Oh, see, that's where I was at a diff disadvantage
because you were listening.
Yeah.
So if you would have beenlistening, you would have.
No, I wasn't listening.
I was playing Microsoft games.
Nathan (32:29):
I thought they were pick her up.
They now have like threestudios battling out for her AI
studios.
This is well, this is ourworld.
Mike (32:38):
So you can create every day that I live, I I am so
disappointed in humanity.
Ody (32:43):
So this girl is AI?
Mike (32:44):
Yeah, that's an AI generated person, yes.
Nathan (32:47):
They use her in commercials all the time in
Europe.
Big deal.
It's like a big deal.
She comes on and they have her,they have her do music videos.
She hasn't had her own voiceyet.
This is a good one.
So they don't even have a voiceor a story for her.
Repent.
She has not talked or doneanything like that.
She just comes and smiles, andthere'll be background voices
that are there.
So they're developing a voicefor her.
(33:09):
Probably.
Is it gonna be Scarlet?
It's gonna be ScarlettJohansson.
They're gonna chill ScarlettJohansson's AI voice.
And it'll be perfect.
All right.
Well that ends.
No, you cheated.
No, I didn't cheat.
Mike (33:21):
Yeah, this this this is this is one of Nathan's uh I
think this is one of the bestone you've done, Nathan.
Thank you very much.
This is this is referencingwhere he was you know slipping
something earlier in the in theshow.
Uh yeah.
Nathan (33:34):
That ends our segment for our show.
Now let's move on to Mike'smesmerizing moment.
I don't know if I could followthat.
Announcement (33:44):
Welcome to Mike's mesmerizing moment.
What does Mike have to saytoday?
Nathan (33:51):
All right, Mike, do you believe that marketing for large
technology companies employsmore psychology, or do you think
they have special sauce that istracking us?
Kind of back to your story thatyou have.
Special sauce.
Mike (34:02):
What is that supposed to be?
Nathan (34:03):
Well, I mean, is there like a special algorithm or a
special way that they do that,or do you think that they're
just using basic humanpsychology to advertise to us?
Mike (34:11):
Okay, marketing and advertising is all about
psychology.
Okay.
So whether or not they havesome special sauce, they are
taking advantage of humanpsychology or in order to get
you to pay attention to them, tobuy stuff from them, manipulate
you.
Okay.
And that is exactly what you'redoing when you're uh he he
(34:36):
referenced it earlier whenyou're scrolling ads, you know.
He wasn't off the mark there.
He's scrolling ads.
I don't know how many times I II stop watching a YouTube video
because I don't have YouTubePlus.
Yeah.
Nathan (34:49):
Any and you see the any see the ads.
Mike (34:51):
And and it's interrupted by 50 bajillion ads, and I don't
care how you know much I amenjoying the video, I'll uh I'll
stop that.
But that ad will pop upsomewhere else, and I'll be
like, where did I see thatbefore?
Okay, this is all all of thisthat companies are doing is
taking advantage of yourpsychology.
(35:11):
Okay.
It's the same thing thathackers do, it's the same thing
that polit politicians do, it'sthe same thing.
So everything that we're doingand seeing and engaging with in
social media is all psychology.
All of it.
All of it.
Okay.
It just it just some peop someare better at manipulating the
(35:32):
data better than others.
Okay.
Nathan (35:34):
All right.
Well, you know what?
Thank you, Mike, for thatmesmerizing moment.
Up next, we have this week intechnology, so now it'd be a
great time to enjoy a littlewhiskey on the side as we're
gonna be doing so during thebreak.
You're listening to Tech TimeRadio with Nathan Mum.
See you in a few minutes.
Hey Mike.
Yeah, what's up?
Hey, so you know what?
We need people to start likingour uh social media pages.
Mike (35:52):
If you like our show, if you really like us, we could use
your support on patreon.com.
Or is it Patreon?
I think it's Patreon.
Okay, Patreon.
If you really like us, you cansay I English guy patreon.com.
I I butcher the Englishlanguage?
You know you butcher theEnglish language.
Nathan (36:08):
So it's all the time.
It's patreon.
Mike (36:10):
Patreon.com.
If you really like if youreally like our show, you can
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Oh, and you can visit us onthat Facebook platform.
You know the one thatZuckerberg owns?
The one that we always bag on?
Nathan (36:22):
Yeah, you can we're on Facebook too.
Yeah, like us on Facebook.
Do you know what our Facebookpage is?
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You know what?
There's a trend here.
Mike (36:32):
It seems to be that there's a trend, and that's Tech
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Or you can even Instagram withus.
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Mike (36:44):
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Nathan (36:46):
Like us today.
We need you to like us.
Mike (36:48):
Like us and subscribe.
That's it.
Nathan (36:50):
That's it.
That's that simple.
Announcement (36:53):
And now, let's look back at this week in
technology.
Nathan (36:59):
All right, we're going to October 10th, 1980.
Pac-Man fever begins.
Namco officially transferredthe rights to Midway for
distribution of the game Pac-Manand Rally X in North America.
Well, the exact date thatPac-Man started shipping to
arcades in North America iscurrently unknown.
More sources cite October of1980.
(37:22):
The Japanese released this gameunder the name Pac-Man, which
had occurred in May of 1980.
However, this date is importantbecause the game's popularity
did not take off until it wasreleased in the United States.
Pac-Man will become the firsttrue megahit video game in
history, sparking Pac-Man feverand catapulting the video game
(37:43):
industry into mainstreamculture.
Now the change for Pac-Man toPac-Man was a strategic decision
by Namco to prevent potentialvandalism.
The original Japanese namePac-Man, which was derived from
the Japanese words paku, meaningchomp, uh, was later changed by
the American distributorbecause they were concerned that
(38:03):
the P could be altered on thearcade machines to look more
like an F.
It wasn't F.
Leading to concern, it was anactuality.
Leading to inappropriateoffensive contest.
Oh man.
Inappropriate.
Yeah, that was it.
All right.
That was this week in TechCon.
And there was a song thatreached almost number one.
(38:23):
Pac-Man Fever.
Yeah, Pac-Man was a huge deal.
They got Pac-Land.
I mean, look at here in thestudio.
What do I have right next toOdie?
We have a Pac-Man arcademachine.
Mike (38:34):
She has no idea what that is.
I think she's played Pac-Man.
Nathan (38:37):
Oh, whoa! One finger salute.
All right, that was this weekin technology.
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Announcement (39:23):
The segment we've been waiting all week for.
Marc (39:35):
Alright, you come running on in there?
Yes.
I'm just so excited.
It's like this, like a pitchercoming in to save the day.
All right, there you go.
Nathan (39:43):
Hopefully, you're not a pitcher for the Detroit Tigers.
Mike (39:48):
Let's move away, folks.
Let's move away.
Okay.
Marc (39:51):
Well, today, October 7th, what are we celebrating today,
gentlemen?
Pac-Man Day.
Nathan (39:57):
We are celebrating the Institute of Technology's first
release of the microprocessor.
Marc (40:06):
What are you doing?
His brain is farting.
Oh, we're doing something morehuman.
Oh, okay.
We're celebrating NationalForgiveness and Happiness Day.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh, I forgive you.
I forgive you.
This day is a reminder of thejoy and freedom that forgiveness
can bring into our lives.
While it's tempting to holdgrudges or dwell on revenge,
(40:27):
Nathan.
Studies show that true healingcomes from letting go and
choosing to forgive.
Right, Mike?
That's true.
I don't care.
Hey, hey now.
Hey, Odie, forgiveness is not asign of weakness.
It is an act of strength thatclears the way for happiness,
peace, and personal growth.
So today, fill your heart withlove.
(40:48):
Release old burdens and embracethe art of forgiveness.
It just might be the bestdecision you made.
Even if you have to teethclench it.
Teeth clench it?
Yeah.
Nathan (40:59):
Forgive the Whoa.
Marc (41:02):
Okay.
Nathan (41:02):
Alright.
Continue it on, Mark.
Marc (41:04):
Well, just like forgiveness, a good bourbon
takes patience and time.
Nathan (41:09):
All right.
Marc (41:10):
Resting in the barrel until it's ready to be enjoyed.
Today we are raising not onebut two glasses.
One is from Whistle Pig.
And one is from Barrel.
Both remind us that whetherit's whiskey or our own hearts,
letting things mature alwaysbrings out the best.
(41:31):
Oh boy.
So let's talk about these two.
So we have Nathan's favorite,Whistlepig, Piggyback Bourbon.
Announcement (41:39):
I hate whistle pig.
Marc (41:41):
Distillation from Vermont, Kentucky, and Indiana.
Blend of bourbon six years old,100 proof.
Mash bills undisclosed, $57.
And that's in one glass.
The other glass is from BarrelFoundation.
It is a blend of Kentucky,Indiana, Tennessee, and
Maryland.
A blend of straight bourbonsaged five to nine years,
100-proof.
73% corn, 23% rye, and fourmalted barley at $60.
Ody (42:06):
The gears are really turning in Nathan's mind right
now.
Mike (42:10):
He's trying to figure out which one's which.
I am.
He wants to not choosewhistlepick.
Nathan (42:16):
I think I actually changed my taste now that I have
it.
Because there is one palettethat does taste.
That's not how it works, buddy.
I don't know.
Mike (42:24):
That's not how it works.
I'm still tasting it.
Okay.
Wow.
Somebody, somebody uh has a hasa comment there.
Alright.
We're waiting for you, Mark.
Marc (42:39):
I'm done.
I'm just listening to you guys.
I'm just trying to figure outif I need to taste the whiskey
to be a tiebreaker or if youguys are going to agree on
something.
You probably should taste the Iwill we'll taste them.
And we have plenty to taste.
We ran out of our samples onit.
But this is what for theYouTube people.
For the YouTube people.
Marcus, we're we have barrelbourbon.
Mike (43:01):
Oh.
He brought he brought the hebrought the big bar.
Marc (43:06):
And we got the whistle pig.
Have you even opened thewhistle pig?
I have not.
We're gonna open it right nowif I gotta taste it.
Nathan (43:11):
There's no reason to open the whistle pig.
Ody (43:13):
No, I want to taste it.
Nathan (43:14):
All right.
All right.
Well, you know what?
Thank you, Mark.
You're welcome, Nathan.
Whiskey and technology are sucha great pairing.
Like October and postseasonbaseball.
Mike (43:24):
Oh no.
Nathan (43:25):
Oh yes.
Oh yes.
All right.
Now let's that was better thanpumpkin spice.
Okay, there you go.
Let's prepare for ourtechnology fail of the week.
Announcement (43:36):
Congratulations.
You're a failure.
Oh, I failed.
Did I?
Yes.
Did I?
Yes.
Nathan (43:44):
All right.
As Mark is on screen camerahere tasting stuff.
This week our technology failcomes to us from the
self-driving car, specificallythe company called Waymo.
Mike (43:53):
Waymo.
Nathan (43:53):
Now, California police pulled over a self-driving Waymo
for an illegal U-turn, butthey're stuck.
They don't know how to issue aticket.
Police in Northern Californiawere understandably perplexed
when they pulled over a Waymotaxi after it made an illegal
U-turn only to find no driverbehind the wheel and therefore
no one to ticket.
(44:14):
Now the San Bruno PoliceDepartment wrote in a now viral
week in social media posts thatthe officers were conducting a
DUI operation Saturday morningwhen the self-driving Waymo made
an illegal turn in front ofthem.
Now officers stopped thevehicle but declined to write a
ticket as the citation book doesnot have a box for listen to
(44:35):
this robot.
So they have they only haveindividual drivers, share
drivers, they do not have a boxfor robots.
So that's right.
No drivers, no hands, no clue,reads the post, which was
accompanied by photos of anofficer peering into the car.
The officer contacted Waymo toreport what they called a glitch
in the post and said they hopethe reprogramming will deter
(44:57):
more illegal moves.
Yeah, not gonna happen.
So so let me get this.
So if if I say I'm a robot whenthey pull me over, can I
self-identify as a robot?
Mike (45:08):
Nathan, you can do a lot of things, but pulling off that
one is not one of them.
You don't think I canself-identify as a robot?
Nathan (45:14):
Say right now I feel like I'm a robot, therefore
there is no robot.
I'm pretty sure that's notgonna work.
Ody (45:21):
That's what happens.
What you could do is have likea Tesla, and then at the last
second, jump into the frontseat, like the passenger seat,
and you're like, oh I don'tknow.
Marc (45:30):
Yeah, I'm sure that won't you want on video?
Identify your mannequin in theseat next to you as a human.
Oh, yeah.
You know what?
Mike (45:38):
Oh, you're you're your HOV, your HOV dude.
Yeah.
You see that a lot to wear yourseat.
You see that a lot here inSeattle where people have
mannequins.
Nathan (45:47):
You do see that.
There is all different types.
Now, Waymo is owned by theGoogle Parent Company Alphabet,
and they said that they willlook into this and see what they
can do.
Mike (45:57):
Okay.
Nathan (45:57):
So this is just one more, one more So robots are
allowed to illegally drive onthe roads.
Mike (46:03):
But no, they're not illegal, they're not allowed to
illegally, they just don't knowhow to ticket them.
Nathan (46:08):
Okay.
Mike (46:08):
That's what I don't understand is how anybody who is
working in, you know, thepolice force wouldn't understand
that this is a non-mannedvehicle.
Ody (46:19):
Uh well, you know, maybe they do.
Mike (46:22):
There's just nothing they can do about it.
Nathan said they were reallyconfused about it.
That's what it says in thearticle.
So that's what I'm talkingabout.
They shouldn't be confused.
They should just understandthat they don't have anywhere to
ticket it.
Okay.
Well, you know what?
Now maybe they should just, youknow, drive it off the road.
Nathan (46:36):
Road?
Well, we got soon we will havesome in our own local towns
ourselves.
That's that's I am so excitedfor you.
Ody (46:43):
You are going to be the first.
You're gonna be the first.
I can't wait for people to justbe beaten on the Waymo's.
Because they will.
Nathan (46:54):
All right, you know.
Will they?
Ody (46:56):
Yeah, yeah.
Nathan (46:56):
Let's move on.
Let's move on.
Okay, let's move on to ourNathan Nugget.
Welcome (47:02):
This is your nugget of the week.
Nathan (47:04):
Well, speaking about baseball and robots, guess what
we have coming in the MajorLeague Baseball season 2026?
We are a new robot team?
Yeah, well, you know, a robotteam may be really interested in
it.
Just think of how much lessthat would cost than the player
salaries they currently pay.
It could probably feel likethat.
That's what's gonna happen.
Well, robot umpires are gonnadebut next season.
(47:27):
Oh, robot.
Major League Baseball made ajoint uh decision with the
competition community to vote toapprove the automated ball
strike ABS challenge system thisyear, which allows players to
and challenge human umpires toball strike calls via an
electronic system run by Hawkeyetechnology, already widely used
(47:50):
in sports such as tennis.
Now, this new system will bewidely tested in minor leagues
this year, is now moving intothe Major League Baseball system
for 2026, where Major LeagueBaseball teams will be able to
challenge two calls per game andget an additional peel and
extra innings.
Only a pitcher, catcher, orbatter can challenge this
without input from managers orplayers in the dugout.
(48:13):
Reviews will be shown asdigital graphics in an outside
outfield video scoreboard.
So they're gonna show this onthe big screen on uh on the
technology.
I don't think this is gonnawork.
Umpires have been declaringpitches in and out of strike
zone since the birth of thesports in the 1800s.
Mike (48:30):
Yeah, you and you can't kick dirt onto a robot.
Marc (48:34):
Is it an actual robot or is it just like camera viewers?
Mike (48:37):
Yeah, it's just the camera and stuff.
I don't think it I don't think.
Marc (48:40):
I was hoping robots running around doing the third
base, first base.
Nathan (48:44):
Major like baseball in a statement said Tuesday that the
two-challenge system will bethe middle ground between the
so-called robot umpires thatcould call every ball and strike
on the long-standing traditionof human natural error.
Mike (48:57):
That doesn't answer his question.
Nathan (48:58):
So they are going to have teams in spring training
this year, upcoming year, 2026,that will only have robot
umpires out there testing thesystem.
Mike (49:09):
I don't think this is gonna work because part of the
fun of watching baseball iswatching everybody get up in an
umpire's face and kick dirt andgetting thrown out of the game.
Nathan (49:19):
Five years from now, you can't do that with a robot
thing.
Five years from now, Iguarantee you the home plate um
uh umpire will be a robot.
That is the most subjective.
Is it a robot?
Marc (49:31):
It'll be vision.
It'll be rough.
No, it'll be a robot.
Nathan (49:34):
Robbie the robot.
I I think there will be a robotthat will be out there, or the
Will Robinson robot.
Because there's but the thingthat really this is the only
thing that I struggle with.
Is right now the umpire is whogives the balls away when they
get foul balls and they do that.
Who is going to replacethrowing the ball out to the
pitcher or giving it to thecatcher to throw to the pitcher?
Marc (49:56):
Well, if it's a robot, can't he reach in a little bag
and pull out a ball?
Nathan (49:58):
Maybe that's what they do.
They just have this robotthing.
It's gonna be a vending humanball.
So you just you just go backthere when you're done.
I still think they're gonnahave human umpires around the
baseline.
Ody (50:11):
Okay, that was my question.
Nathan (50:12):
I still think they'll have human umpires at first
baseline, third baseline, in theoutfields for major league
baseball.
But I think they'll think thisis just a bad move.
All right, well, at least youcan hit it with a bat and not
feel bad.
You swing backwards and youdestroy it.
What happens when you destroy arobot?
If you're a player and you getall mad?
Well, I can afford to replaceit.
Come on.
But do you have two robots?
(50:33):
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Do you have two robots on uh doyou have another back?
Mike (50:39):
You know, eventually you're gonna have robot
pitchers.
Ody (50:42):
So I want to know the accuracy of this thing.
Mike (50:44):
Well, they're they're really good.
Nathan (50:46):
I mean, with the video camera stuff that they have for
these tennis matches.
Uh well, they don't now, butnext year I guarantee it'll get
challenged all the time.
Ody (50:53):
The robot thing does sound kind of nice in moments where do
you guys watch the I don't knowwhat it is, the US Open or
whatever?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or Wimbledon or whatever.
Nathan (51:01):
Yeah, we don't care about tennis here.
Yeah, tennis, when you see thatwhere the ball hits and it says
it hit right here and it'sreally close.
Ody (51:06):
I I'm thinking about that match that Coco Goff had against
that European lady where shewould she's talking a foreign
language.
Mike (51:13):
I don't know what she's saying.
Who is that person?
Keep on going.
I I'm with you.
Ody (51:17):
Well, she like would take really long time to get back
into like the ready stance.
Yep.
And the umpire never called it,so Coco Goff like went off on
the ump.
Nathan (51:26):
Yeah.
Ody (51:26):
It would be nice for a robot to actually call that.
Nathan (51:29):
Yeah.
Ody (51:30):
You know, there'd be no bias.
Nathan (51:31):
Yeah.
I think this is gonna have to bea little bit more.
That's the only pro robot that'sa good thing.
Okay, so it's gonna be workingout.
Marc (51:39):
Now I understand the sport.
NFL.
Nathan (51:41):
Now on fourth down, guess what?
When they do, they do no longerbring out the chains.
They look at a computer monitorto decide on fourth downs if
you got it or you didn't get it.
No more bringing.
Yeah, this whole season.
There's nobody bringing thechains out.
They're not putting littleindex cards to see how close
they are and tell what they are.
They have to say no otheroption on fourth downs.
(52:04):
If it's really close, then theywill go to a computer.
I like it better.
I do too.
It's quick, it's easy, and theysay, Yep, okay, that's what we
got.
Mike (52:10):
Yeah, see, with football, I I understand that because you
know, it takes so darn long towatch a game on a Sunday.
On Sunday, yeah.
What are you talking about?
Have you ever watched abaseball game?
It's just the same amount oftime.
All right.
I I don't like watching anysports on my TV.
I I surprises me.
I hate TV sports.
I I like going to an actualgame and watching the actual
(52:32):
game.
Okay.
I'm just gonna be able to dothat.
And uh, you know, if I go feelthat way about baseball games.
If I go to a baseball game, I Igo to watch, you know, fights
and dirt getting kicked on bythe umpire and everybody yelling
at you ever weaver used toalways dis destroy umpires.
Nathan (52:49):
Look up Earl Weaver.
Ody (52:50):
Earl Weaver?
Nathan (52:51):
Yeah, he was a manager for the Orioles back in the 70s.
What did he fight?
Mike (52:56):
I I can't wait until all this AI stuff comes back and and
starts doing exactly what we'redoing now and just fighting
each other.
Nathan (53:03):
Major League Baseball has decided to replace all the
robots with real humans, andthey'll take the errors that
they have just because it's theold time.
All right, you know what?
What did he just say?
We now need to move to the pickof the day.
Welcome (53:15):
And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop.
Mike (53:22):
Bubble, bubble, bubble.
Bubble, bubble, bubble.
Marc (53:26):
What do we got?
We got we got your favoritewhistle pig.
We got we got whistle pig,piggyback bourbon in one glass,
and barrel foundation in theother.
Nathan (53:36):
All right.
Uh this is my pick.
This is the pick I'm going withright here.
The beer glass.
Marc (53:42):
Beer glass.
Okay.
I'm going with the beer glass.
Mike (53:45):
No, it's not.
Yeah, it is.
And then which one did youpick?
Uh, I picked the whistle pig.
Oh no.
Over the barrel because thebarrel.
Hold on.
Did he say he picked the beerover the glen cup?
Beer over the glen cannon.
Ody (53:58):
So they're they're in agreement.
Mike (54:00):
They're in agreement.
They're in agreement.
Ody (54:02):
But hold on.
Mike (54:03):
But that's only because Nathan changed his mind when he
finally found out there waswhistlepig, and then he went and
chose with the whistle pig.
I know this is whistle pig.
Do you think that's whistlepig?
Yes.
Nathan (54:13):
Okay, then I'm going back with this one then.
Mike (54:16):
The reason why I didn't chose choose the Glen Claren is
because I can taste the alcohol.
Oh.
So I believe that's what Markwas talking about, it not being
quite mature enough.
Oh, honest thing.
Nathan (54:29):
Okay.
Okay.
Marc (54:29):
So I'll just so you know, the whistle pig is six years and
barrel foundation is five tonine year blend.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Ody (54:37):
Ooh.
I will say that.
Marc (54:39):
I'm going with this.
I'm going with this.
All right, we got two for thebeer glass.
Do not be whistle pig.
Oh, now now Odie has beentasting in the background and
she knows which one's which.
Which one did you actuallychoose?
Ody (54:48):
I liked the barrel.
Marc (54:49):
You liked the barrel.
Good job.
Ody (54:51):
Did not like the whistle pig at all.
If anything, I don't know ifyou guys can see by face.
Marc (54:55):
Hand me the bottle.
Thank you.
Nathan (54:58):
All right.
Hand me the other bottle.
Whistlepig is nasty, isn't it?
Marc (55:01):
It was nasty.
No, neither one of them werenasty.
All right, let's get to it.
So here we go.
Here's our two bottles.
The winner in the beer thatmoves on to the finals in a
surprising upset.
Whistlepig! Shut up.
Are you kidding?
Are you kidding me?
I chose I had it right and Iswitched my from my one comment
(55:24):
because you always choose theGlencaron.
This is this is this is how thisis how Nathan has developed his
palette.
This was a Princess Bridemoment.
Nathan (55:33):
Yeah.
Oh man.
Marc (55:34):
Whistlepig is nice.
I switched him around, but youhad a you kept thinking it's
nasty.
I hated it.
I know.
I hate it too.
Ody (55:42):
The barrel was so nice.
And then I yeah.
Mike (55:45):
This one doesn't have quite the good finish.
Yes, it did.
I screwed it.
This one was good, but it justdidn't.
Are you?
Ody (55:53):
Okay, but I don't care about Nathan's palette because
he's he just we just knowNathan's palette is wherever
wherever anybody can influenceus.
He would have stuck to hisbones.
Marc (56:01):
He would have chosen is far more marked.
I would have moved on barrel.
Oh my word.
Ody (56:07):
I agree.
Marc (56:08):
Nathan I messed up.
I think the the whistle pigcompared, it has a little bit
more green forward in it.
I do enjoy it.
It is a nice, it's in yourface.
It's got that right boldness init.
Yeah.
That I like.
But the barrel's a little bitmore smooth, which I generally
don't like to use that word, butit's it's more layered.
It is.
And a little bit more complex.
Man, I was so worried I wasgonna pick this up.
Mike (56:29):
Why are you agreeing with him when you have no idea what
he's saying?
Nathan (56:32):
Because I agree.
Mike (56:33):
No, not you, here.
Oh, okay.
Nathan (56:34):
Yeah, these are.
Marc (56:39):
These are hard to put blind against each other because
they they're when you tastethem, they're very close.
Nathan (56:45):
They are very blind.
Marc (56:47):
They affect each other's because the the subtleties of
the barrel.
So you tasted if you had tastedwhistle pig first, I because
that's what I and then you didthe barrel, I think you would
have chosen whistle pig.
But I made sure you did thebarrel first so you got the
layered and the complexitybefore your palate gets blown up
by the whistle pig.
Ody (57:04):
Is there peppercorn in the whistle pig?
Or pepper?
Marc (57:07):
That's crap in it.
There's flavors of that.
Ody (57:09):
I did not.
Marc (57:10):
I did not like whistle pig.
You chose it, buddy.
And yet it's going to thefinals.
Mike (57:14):
You are on the air choosing whistle pig, buddy.
Don't shake your head.
There was no there was nopalette differentiation.
Nathan (57:22):
I was worried about the tie.
And Mr.
Ray made me.
I did not.
Mike (57:27):
I I said nothing.
It was all him talking aboutone of them being whistlepig,
and you were like Mike, we'reabout out of time.
Nathan (57:35):
We want to thank our listeners for joining the
program.
Listeners, we want to hear fromyou.
Visit us at tagtime radio.com.
What the heck is that?
Ody (57:43):
It sounds like Marge's sister.
Mike (57:44):
That's his grumpy man voice.
Turn it into a sound like Margefrom uh No Marge's sisters.
Yeah, the ones that smaller.
Ody (57:51):
Yeah, the grouchy.
Yeah.
There we go.
Nathan (57:54):
All right.
You can always stay connectedby liking us on YouTube.
Guess what?
It was an honor to be the hostof today's show.
Each week we are here to decodethe technology that shapes our
world.
Ody (58:07):
I don't really feel like we decoded anything today.
I think we did.
Mike (58:10):
Other than you have no, like we know we decoded Nathan's
palette right here.
Nathan (58:14):
We decoded the technology that shapes our
world.
Mike (58:16):
This is why Nathan is more affected by marketing than most
people.
Marc (58:22):
Well, that's why there's all the bad whiskey up there
with pretty labels and bourbon.
Yeah.
Nathan (58:26):
At a time.
Remember, the science oftomorrow starts with the
technology of it today.
Later.
See us next week.
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In addition, we have ourstandard features, including
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(02:23):
whiskey tastings.
It looks like we have Mark backin studio with two different uh
whiskies to taste to continueon our special advent calendar.
I just got the 2025 version, sowe got another whole year of
tastings to do.
But now it's time for thelatest headlines in the world of
technology.
Announcement (02:41):
Here are our top technology stories of the week.
Nathan (02:45):
All right.
OpenAI is now worth $500billion.
B-I L-L-I-O-N.
You like that?
Yeah, yeah.
You uh you can spell.
I can spell.
All right.
Well, guess what?
We're gonna listen to what LisaWalker has to talk about this
most valuable startup company.
Announcement (03:05):
OpenAI could now be the world's most valuable
startup, ahead of Elon Musk'sSpaceX and TikTok's parent
company, ByteDance, after asecondary stock sale designed to
retain employees.
Current and former OpenAIemployees sold $6.6 billion in
shares to a group of investors,pushing the privately held
(03:26):
artificial intelligencecompany's valuation to $500
billion.
The investors buying the sharesincluded Thrive Capital,
Dragoneer Investment Group, andT Row Price, along with Japanese
tech giant Softbank, and theUnited Arab Emirates' MGX.
Nathan, what do you think aboutSam Altman and his company now?
(03:48):
Back to you guys in the studio.
Nathan (03:51):
Oh wow, I got Lisa coming after me, too.
Mike (03:54):
Okay, Lisa.
Well, that's your bromance.
Nathan (03:56):
I know.
All right.
I do like the overall valuationthat reflects the high
expectation in the future of AItechnologies.
But my concern is what happensif this AI bubble crashes?
You know, we we kind of beentalking about this a little bit.
I I'm going to kind of predict,and I don't know if it's really
a prediction or such, but I dobelieve we're going to have an
(04:16):
AI bubble that's going tohappen.
And you're going to have two orthree of the large companies
succeed in this bubble, and allthese little startups with all
these billions of dollars andinvestors are going to lose
everything they have because Idon't think the world's able to
handle 10 or 15 AI companies.
I think we're going to go downto our normal standard of two or
three major companies that playin the space and everybody else
(04:38):
that kind of just dabbles.
Mike (04:40):
In order to run these things, you have to have m data
farms, right?
You do.
You have to have data farms.
And all these little companies,can they have these big data?
No, they can't keep up.
Nathan (04:50):
So we'll talk about Sam Altman, my buddy.
You know, he's he was just inTexas looking and did a tour of
a massive data center that'sgoing to be able to run his
company's AI systems.
So this is a big deal.
You have to have theinfrastructure to run this.
Then you have to have keyprocessor companies like Nvidia
or Intel or one of these thingsto work with.
(05:10):
And guess what?
It just so happens that uh uhSam Altman has worked really
well with Oracle and Softbankand the chipmaker NVIDIA to make
all these specialized AI chipsjust for his specific data
centers.
He also has this longtimebacking company uh by the name
of Microsoft.
I don't know if you've everheard of them.
Yeah, they're busy right now.
(05:31):
Yeah, they're kind of busyright now.
Mike (05:33):
They did something bad and people are upset about it.
Nathan (05:35):
We're gonna be talking about that today, too.
I think.
I do think we're gonna betalking about that.
So it's interesting.
The San Francisco-basedcompany, OpenAI, is gonna go
public.
They are trying to retain theirtop talent, which I think
they're gonna do just fine.
And there's gonna be billionsof dollars poured into research
and development to see who cancontrol the AI.
Now, speaking of this, guesswhat movie I watched last night?
(05:57):
The Terminator.
I did.
I watched Terminator 2 lastnight, and you know what?
I watched that, and then Ithink of AI, and I'm just like,
wow, could Hollywood havepredicted, and it's gotta be
Terminator 2, not the first one.
I don't like the first one asmuch, but Terminator 2.
What could they have predictedthat AI will take over?
I mean, the whole thing isrobots take over, and and you
(06:18):
have uh Arnold Reddit.
Mike (06:21):
I think we're all pretty familiar with the concept of
Terminator 2.
Nathan (06:24):
I just want to make sure everybody's uh has anybody not
watched Odie?
Have you watched Terminator 2?
Ody (06:28):
No, I haven't, but but I was going to say that this
directly references 2001's TheSpace Odyssey.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nathan (06:35):
AI is gonna take over, so we'll see.
You know what?
Mike (06:37):
But there's only room for a few.
Now just we're gonna pal nevermade a mistake.
He didn't.
It's it's right there in themovie.
He he was perfect.
Ody (06:46):
And but he still went against the human race.
Mike (06:50):
Oh no.
Nathan (06:50):
The human race is always bad.
If you ever notice the AIs arelike, you guys kill each other,
you guys are mean to each other.
Mike (06:56):
We are we are bad, but that that's the point of this
whole thing.
So the whole we created AI.
The whole the whole yeah,that's right.
The point of this whole idea isthat we create this thing that
destroys us.
That destroys us.
Yep, right.
So that's kind of the reverse.
It's kind of the reverse of thewhole Garden of Eden thing.
It is.
There you go.
Nathan (07:14):
Well, guess what?
ChatGPT is all over thisbecause it's got Etsy and
Shopify that now have integratedinto ChatGPT.
So if you use ChatGPT and youwant to buy something, soon
you'll be able to get on Etsyand Shopify.
And so the AI generating videouh service is now available for
everyone.
You don't have to be on theirpremium plans, but you can go
and you can create AI videos.
(07:34):
Have you seen any of these AIvideos?
No.
Oh, these AI videos are justthe it I love.
Ody (07:41):
What's your favorite one?
Nathan (07:43):
I love well, I love the ones where the dogs have you
seen the with dogs runningaround the snow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh no, have you seen the dogsin the snow?
Ody (07:49):
No.
Nathan (07:50):
So the dog soar is one of the their videos, they have
dogs in the snow that as theirdeal.
And what's amazing is the doggoes from four legs to two
instantaneously as he's jumpingin the snow.
I love AI videos and quitebecause they're bad.
Yes, because they have theseairs.
And they're noticeable.
Mike (08:08):
I know they're noticeable.
They're noticeable airs thatare one of my one of my favorite
ones is uh someone did a a nicelittle kind of caricature of
themselves.
Yeah.
And you know, they're dressedin like armor and holding a
shield, and their sword is a sextoy.
Ody (08:25):
Oh.
Mike (08:26):
Oh, wow.
Ody (08:27):
Okay, that could be on purpose.
Mike (08:29):
No, that wasn't.
It wasn't.
It wasn't on purpose.
It was the AI interpretingthings.
Did you it was that a pictureof you or something?
No, it was uh a nerd, nerdbuddy of mine.
A nerd buddy, and he sent itout to everybody all happy.
Yeah, he was like, Look at whatAI just did, and this is cool.
And I was everybody startedlaughing and goes, What's
matter?
Look at what you're holding inyour hand.
Oh boy.
Nathan (08:50):
All right, well, we'll see what happens when this uh
not-for-profit or non-profitdecides to be a for-profit.
All right.
Story number two, Mike.
I think you can bring up thethe excitement in the level
here.
Yeah, no, I'm just gonna becomplaining about stuff.
So you realize you complainedabout the same company last
week.
And I went to the week before,and you complained about you
(09:10):
know what this company is likeright in your suits.
Mike (09:14):
So this has got to be Yeah.
I mean, I I think technologyshould be useful, and these are
not.
Okay.
Instagram.
Oh, meta again.
Oh, and meta again.
Yep.
Hey, it says uh your company ortheir company is not using your
microphone to listen to you.
I guess that's a big thing.
Okay.
I've thought that.
(09:35):
Have you ever thought that'sbecause that's because you uh
are talking about something andsuddenly it pops up on your
phone or your screen orwhatever.
Yep.
This is supposed to be a myth.
Okay.
Right?
And uh Adam Moseri, I guessthat's his how you pronounce it,
posted on his account Wednesdayto dispel that myth that the
social networking giant isactively listening to its users
(09:58):
surreptitiously.
That means secretly for Nathanin order to target them with
relevant ads.
The idea that Meta wouldsecretly turn on the microphone
on users' phones to record theirconversations is an age-old
conspiracy theory, and one thatthe company has disputed before.
Ironically, Moseri's new mythbusting claim comes just as Meta
(10:23):
has announced it will soontarget ads to users across its
social apps using data collectedfrom their interactions with
its AI products.
I think that's what he sayshere coming up too, right?
Probably.
In other words, Meta didn'tneed to record your
conversations because you'regoing to be giving your
(10:46):
information away.
That's right.
He also points out thatsometimes it's not technology
alone that's driving thehyperaccurate recommendations.
Either just a coincidence or abit of human psychology at play.
Okay, that's BS.
Well, are you are you sure?
Nathan (11:02):
The psychology, it's just human psychology.
Mike (11:05):
No, the coincidence is uh no.
There this is Oh yeah.
He says you might not add ithave actually seen it that ad
before you had the conversationand not realized it.
He points out we scrollquickly, we scroll by ads
quickly, and sometimes youinternalize some of that, and
that actually affects what youtalk about later.
(11:26):
That is true.
Okay, okay, because we have uhwe have an active part of our
mind and an inactive well, notno, I'm gonna backtrack on that.
We have an awake part of ourmind and a and a part of our
mind that is always looking forstuff that's our subconscious or
unconscious, all right.
And he's talking about theunconscious.
(11:48):
We pick up on things and thenwe store it for later.
And that's kind of what yourdreams are.
Uh let's see.
Where was I?
On Instagram, Moseri says thathe's had a number of
conversations about metalistening to his users, many of
whom can't believe how well thecompany's ad targeting actually
works.
By now, most of us have eitherhad the experience ourselves, or
(12:10):
at least know somebody whoclaims that meta must have been
secretly recording them, to knowthat they were likely to click
on something.
Sometimes you were onlythinking about a topic or
product and then see the contentappear in your feed, making it
seem as if Meta is a mindreader.
Company has repeatedly disputedthese claims, trying to explain
that it doesn't have to recordyour conversations to make its
(12:32):
recommendations so successful.
Nathan (12:34):
Okay.
Mike (12:35):
You know?
It's like when you get onAmazon and you order, you know,
a toilet seat, yeah, andsuddenly they want you to buy
more toilet seats.
Okay.
Nathan (12:47):
So they're just saying that their algorithm is so good
that they don't have to be amind reader.
Do you believe that?
Ody (12:53):
No.
And I thought I thought it'sbeen proven that they track your
your like keystrokes.
Uh like what you type in.
Nathan (13:02):
Well, it depends on what page you're on.
It depends on what cookieyou've been able to detect.
Ody (13:06):
Yeah, I don't believe that they listen to me, but they are
definitely tracking what I'mdoing on my phone.
Nathan (13:12):
Uh and if you're on their platforms and you're
typing stuff, I'm sure thatthey're actively keeping this
information.
Mike (13:17):
We have this going on on several platforms, but I'm
pretty sure they share theinformation amongst themselves.
Yeah.
They do.
So when I Google drill,Amazon's gonna get it.
Oh, yeah.
And then Meta's gonna get it.
And Meta sells it to Amazon.
Ody (13:30):
Yeah, that's too big of a coincidence that it's coming up
on Instagram, Facebook, andAmazon.
Nathan (13:36):
And now when you start going to AI search engines and
putting your stuff in there too,now it's creating this profile
of Nathan Mum, and he likesthis, this, this, this, this,
and this.
So then the open AI can thensell that data to somebody at a
later time so they can targetme.
Mike (13:49):
Netflix has been trying to do that for years, and then
they just I think they juststopped doing it.
I think the recommendations andthis just started recommending
their their crap.
Nathan (13:58):
Yeah, I think that absolutely, I think that's
exactly what they did.
All right, here we go.
Story number three SomeSnapchatters will have to pay to
keep their thousands of snapsstored on the app.
Now, I'm not a big uh Snapchatperson.
Are you a Snapchat person,Mike?
What what is Snapchat?
Okay, all right, but you knowwhat?
We do have the demographic inour studio here.
(14:19):
Are you a snap?
Are you a Snapchatter?
Oh, Odie, explain to me what ishappening with all these
Snapchats.
Ody (14:27):
So essentially, for the longest time since 2016, yeah,
anytime you would take a snapand you wanted to save it, you
could save it to your memories.
Okay.
And that has been somethingwhere it's always been like
advertised that it has no limit,you don't have to pay for
storage, and never had to worryabout that.
Snapchat is now coming outsaying that they are going to
(14:48):
start charging for people thathave more than five gigabytes
worth of memories in theirstorage.
Nathan (14:55):
How much do you worth?
Ody (14:56):
I have well, I've been saving since 2016.
Nathan (15:00):
So you use this regularly.
Ody (15:01):
Yeah, I've used this regularly.
And you have a lot of memories.
And Google Photos has beencharging you for storage.
So this has been like the onelittle thing that's been safe.
Free and safe and without worryabout it.
But now they're gonna startcharging what, three dollars a
month?
Mike (15:20):
Oh no.
So what are you gonna do?
Ody (15:22):
I'm not gonna do it.
Mike (15:24):
You're going to let them delete all of your photos.
Ody (15:27):
They are giving a year.
Nathan (15:29):
Yeah, uh, they have undisclosed when exactly, but
people have already been takingto the masses about this because
one trillion, supposedly,Snapchat says they have one
trillion memories that areavailable.
Ody (15:42):
Oh, I believe it.
Mike (15:43):
Okay.
Like see, this is I've I thinkyou talked about this on
Thursday.
This is what I've been saying.
You know, they they get youthis they're like drug pushers.
Ody (15:51):
Yeah, exactly.
Mike (15:52):
They get you hooked on their thing, they get you saving
it, they get you saving yourmemories and all these other
things, and then they comearound later and be like, pal,
hey, and the issue is you haveto pay for this now.
Ody (16:03):
People are really upset about this because there's also
what I think it's calledSnapchat Plus and Snapchat
Premium.
Nathan (16:09):
So they have other tiered services.
Ody (16:11):
Yeah, they have other tiered services, but I have not
given in the first time.
Nathan (16:14):
We should have marketed the pluses.
In episode two of tech time,episode two of Tech Time Radio,
Mike says on the air, episodetwo, you know what?
Everybody's gonna come out withplus versions and everything's
gonna be plus and plus plus.
Before it was happening, it'splus plus now.
It's plus plus, is what hesaid.
Mike (16:32):
All right.
I'm thinking that at some pointI'm hoping that all the people
around the world are just gonnaget tired of this and then
create a revolution and destroyall these.
Ody (16:45):
So that's what's interesting because my
generation, a lot of peopledon't want to pay for another
subscription service.
I mean, they're already payingfor Google photos and nobody
wants to pay for subscriptionservices and prime.
Nathan (16:56):
If we're on Prime, I'm on Prime, so you pay for a
Prime.
Ody (16:59):
And Snapchat, the funny thing right now is it's kind of
dying.
The what's keeping it there forme is the fact that I have
years worth of memories, andit's something where I don't
have to think about when Imessage other people.
It's it's very universal.
It doesn't matter if you're anAndroid user or Apple user,
you're there.
Nathan (17:17):
Okay.
Ody (17:17):
Um, but with the fact that they're doing this, people are
going to Apple store and givingit one-star reviews and just
complaining.
I will be deleting this app.
There's no chance of me buyingthe subscription or keeping up
with Snapchat afterward.
And honestly, I agree.
Nathan (17:32):
Okay.
Are you gonna delete it?
Do you know how to downloadyour stuff?
Ody (17:35):
No, but I'm going to tell you I've already looked it up.
Nathan (17:37):
Okay, so here we go.
For those that haven't lookedit up, good job, Odie.
What you need to do to you needto download your data from
Snapchat.
You need to open Snapchat orlog into the
accounts.snapchat.com.
Go to the app setting and lookfor the my data area.
Select what data you want todownload by selecting the date
range of the data.
Then you confirm your emailaddress and you hit submit.
(17:59):
Snapchat will then send you anemail in the next 24 to 48 hours
with a link for your data to bedownloaded.
Users can view recent exportshere, and any data downloaded
from the my data will be sent ina zip file.
You have four days to downloadthat, and then the file is no
longer available, and you'd haveto re-ask for it to happen
(18:20):
again.
So this is very common onFacebook.
This is very common onInstagram.
Yeah.
They give you a link.
You're gonna have to go andmake sure you download it.
It's gonna be categories justby the date range that you put
in there, and then you can haveyour data back.
Ody (18:34):
Yeah.
Nathan (18:35):
And you know what's gonna happen is people are gonna
buy portable storage at home.
People have and and that'spicking back up again.
This is, you know what?
This is a real good trend in1995 that people would buy these
big data stores to store theirstuff.
Ody (18:48):
It's something that we've talked about a lot that
eventually people are gonna getsick about subscriptions.
Yeah.
And it's starting to happenwithin the last couple of years,
especially when it comes tolike streaming music and
everything that's happening nowwith like social media and
whatnot.
But it's hilarious to me thatphysical media is coming back,
like cassette players and vinylrecords and just DVDs and
(19:09):
Blu-rays are like a hot thingnow again.
Flash drives are coming backand like those big uh what do
you call it?
Those external hard drives arecoming back.
Nathan (19:17):
Yeah, like a lacey drive or uh another external, yeah.
Ody (19:20):
Which is comical to me because the whole point of this
evolution of data and everythingis that we should have it all
at our fingertips.
Mike (19:27):
Yeah, that's that's being a good thing.
And now it's being monetized.
Because these thesecorporations overstepped
themselves.
Ody (19:37):
Okay, but Snapchat is dying, it's been dying for a
while.
And the fact that they'rewilling to pay influencers on
Snapchat so much amount of moneyinstead of and now charging
their main demographic of peoplewhen it's just a time.
Nathan (19:50):
Because people are lazy, so they're gonna get 50% of
these people to pay that.
And even if you get 50% of thepeople to do it, and let's say
you have a hundred thousandpeople that are there at three
bucks a pop, there's threehundred thousand dollars for the
first month.
It's kind of like postagestamps.
Yeah, I I haven't bought apostage stamp in a while.
Mike (20:07):
Are they going up?
Are they uh so when when uhemail came out, postage stamps
were you know like what 15, 25cents?
Nathan (20:16):
Well, I think there were 69 to 70 cents, but okay, yeah.
Mike (20:20):
So so people stopped using snail mail, yeah, and so they
started upping the price ofpostage stamps.
And then people uh now go tothe post office to I I don't
know.
That just popped into my head.
Let's just let's just move on.
Nathan (20:34):
All right, well, that is our top technology stories of
the week.
Next, we have a special treat,the game show that's sweeping
the nation on techtimeradio.com.
Uh we call it Two Truce and aLie.
Was our story fake?
Is it real?
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Nathan (21:36):
All right.
Welcome back to Tech Time withNate the Mum.
Our weekly show covers the toptechnology subjects without any
political agenda.
We verify the facts, we do itwith a sense of humor in less
than 60 minutes, and of course,with a little whiskey on the
side.
Today, Mark Gregoire whiskeyconnoisseurs back for our taste
testing items.
Mark, what have you chosen forus today?
Marc (21:55):
Well, today we're doing the 2024 Flavor Advent Calendar.
We are in round three, which isthe semifinals.
This is the first of the twosemis.
All right.
So we're using the FlavorWhiskey Advent Calendar, which
had 24 remarkable whiskeys touse for a year-long blind
whiskey competition to see whichone Nathan and Mike like best.
(22:17):
Oh.
Come along for the ride once amonth while they uncover new
tastes and train their senses tobecome true connoisseurs.
Today is the start of roundthree, our semifinals, as we
mentioned, where they willchoose the winner to move on to
the finals.
If they disagree, which Ialways enjoy, I am the deciding
vote.
Now, today's blind battle.
(22:38):
Both pores come in at 100proof, but one leans on a single
six-year blend while the otherlayers together older barrels
from multiple states, making ita fun test of how different
paths at the same strength cantaste.
It is a perfect reminder thatproof alone never tells the
whole story, Nathan.
Okay.
(22:58):
Stay tuned to see which onewins out and advances from this
rank.
Mike (23:02):
I already know which one I like.
You didn't like either one ofthem.
Nathan (23:05):
I I no, I I I I I I you know what?
These are not as good as lasttime that we did the tasting, in
my opinion.
There's one of these that Ilike, and there's one of these
that I really don't like.
So interesting.
Did I say did I get both ofthese thumbs up previously?
Or did one of these slipthrough?
Ody (23:24):
You will have to wait till the mumbles.
Nathan (23:25):
I think one slipped through.
I think there's one in herethat I did not like.
Which one did you not liketoday?
Marc (23:29):
Uh I'm struggling with it.
Mike (23:31):
He's not liking this one.
No, no, no.
I like that one.
Oh, that's one.
That's the one.
Yeah.
Marc (23:35):
He likes one in the Glenn Karen, not in the beer glass.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Nathan (23:42):
All right.
Okay.
Well, with God.
Marc (23:44):
He tends to always like the Glenn Carens.
Do I really?
Mike (23:47):
Maybe it's just maybe it's just the way I do it.
It's your it's your buddy Moseror whatever his name is and
talking about his unconsciousad.
Nathan (23:58):
Our whiskey tasting completed.
Let's move on to our featuresegment.
Today we have our game show tosee if Mark, Mike, and Odie are
ready.
Marc (24:07):
Nathan is very excited about this.
Mike, he didn't even telleverybody to drink responsibly
because heaven didn't want to.
Nathan (24:12):
No, I'm sorry.
Okay, keep on going.
That's all right.
No, I'm done.
Marc (24:15):
I just want to remind our viewers it's very important to
drink responsibly out there.
Okay.
I am very excited.
I think I'm going to get youguys on this.
All right.
Mike (24:22):
All right.
This is the game show that'ssweeping Nathan's mantle end.
Nathan (24:26):
That's all right.
All right.
Let's start the next segment.
Welcome (24:29):
And now we have two truths and a lie.
Nathan (24:33):
All right.
I got three headlines here.
Two of these stories arecorrect.
And one of these stories isincorrect.
All right.
Listen up.
Mike (24:42):
What is going on over here?
Nathan (24:44):
Uh, I'm really excited about this because all these
stories are crazy.
All right.
Elon Musk, SpaceX, took moneydirectly from Chinese investors.
Company insiders testify.
The recent testimony comingfrom a SpaceX insider doing a
court case marks the first timedirect Chinese investment in the
privately held companies hasbeen disclosed.
(25:05):
Well, there's no um area thatsays they can be prohibited from
Chinese ownership.
Military contracts, such asinvestments, are heavily
regulated, and this issue iskind of a threat to the U.S.
government and significantnational security concerns.
Buying shares in SpaceX is muchmore difficult than buying a
piece of publicly tradedcompanies like Tesla or
(25:28):
Microsoft.
SpaceX has control over who canbuy stakes in it.
And the company's investorsfall into different categories.
The most rarefied group is thedirect investors who actually
own SpaceX shares.
So SpaceX has been sellingtheir shares to Chinese
investors.
Number one.
(25:49):
Number two, Microsoft adding anad-supported tier for Xbox
Cloud Gaming.
Xbox is planning to add a freead-supported tier to its cloud
gaming service, which meansyou'll be able to stream certain
games without paying a highprice.
With this, though, you'll haveto watch ads before and during
(26:09):
your games.
Just think of this.
If you're in the middle of afighting in an online game,
something pumping up.
All right.
Uh The Verge said, I understandthat the free ad-supported
version of Xbox Cloud Gamingwill be included with the
ability to stream some games youown as well as eligible free
play days titled.
But let's Xbox players try agame over the weekend.
(26:31):
You'll also be able to streamXbox Retro Classics, but your
gameplay might be interrupted inthe middle of your game for
ads.
Xbox Cloud Gaming is a keyoffering from Microsoft and
allows gamers to stream certaingames with the subscription.
The company recently had aprice hike with everything
pushing their monthly UltimateGame Pass up 50% to $29.99 per
(26:53):
month, almost the same price aslike streaming services.
That's story number two.
Story number three.
Tilly Norwood signs withHollywood Hollywood Studio Arc
Like Films.
In the days since she made herentrance during the Zurich Film
Festival presentation lastweekend, Tilly Norwood has been
the talk of the town.
(27:14):
The AI-generated actress, who'son her way to becoming a
household name, despite onlyappearing in one two-minute
comedy sketch, has yet conductedan interview.
Rioty said they've been told bythe publicist for Particle
Sick, the company that createdher, Tilly is not available to
speak at present time.
Tyler Merritt, chief technologyofficer at Houston-based
(27:35):
Unique, which dubs itself asperhaps the only talent agency
for AI human influencers, hasbooked Tilly Norwood with major
brands like uh Qatar Airways,which says they are currently
creating a backstory for Tillyat the moment.
Quitar.
That's Qatar.
Qatar Airways.
Sorry.
Quitar Airways.
(27:56):
All right.
Those are the three stories.
So you got Elon Musk, SpaceX,took money from Chinese
investors.
Tilly Norwood signs withHollywood Studios, Arc Light
Films.
And Microsoft is addingad-supported tier for Xbox Game
Cloud.
Alright.
Odie, I'm gonna go to youfirst.
(28:17):
Which one of those is true andwhich one of those is lie?
Ody (28:21):
I think the Xbox ad support tier is fake.
Nathan (28:26):
It's fake.
Okay.
Ody (28:27):
Though I I want to believe that we're not gonna hire an AI
thing.
It sounds plausible.
Plausible.
Nathan (28:37):
Plausible.
Okay.
Marc (28:38):
Mark, we'll go to you.
I'm gonna go with the uh Tillysigning on to a studio is false.
Oh, it's false with ArclightFilms.
Correct.
Nathan (28:49):
Do you know what that that studio is?
Uh no.
Okay.
Okay.
Alright, okay.
And Mr.
Gordet, you can either go withuh you can either go with the
SpaceX, Tilly Norwood, orMicrosoft Game Ads.
Mike (29:03):
This is a tough one because I think all of them are
plausible.
I'm I'm absolutely sure thatChina could have invested into
SpaceX.
I'm pretty sure Elon would haveallowed that because you know
he's Elon.
He's Elon.
Okay.
Of course, the richest man inthe world.
Ody (29:21):
Wants to get richer, why?
Mike (29:22):
Wants to get richer.
Wow.
Okay.
Uh I can I can believe thatsome studio is gonna hire an AI
generated actress.
I can believe that.
I can almost believe thatMicrosoft is willing to
interrupt your games with ads.
Well, that one seems the mostplausible to me.
Yeah, that that one's hardbecause that one that one is
(29:43):
definitely a stupid thing thatthat we have seen before, but
I'm going to say that it's justa little bit too on the stupid
side for Microsoft to make thatleap yet.
Okay.
Nathan (29:55):
Okay.
So we have we have two for X.
Fox Cloud Gaming, and we gotone for Tilly Norwood.
Is that your guys' finalanswers?
Sure.
Yeah.
He's gloating.
All right.
Here we go.
It is truth that Elon Musk hastaken directly money from
investors.
All right.
So I couldn't have figured thatout.
(30:18):
All right.
And the other true storyMicrosoft is adding ad support
here to Xbox Cloud.
Marc (30:26):
It was such a stupid thing.
There's no way Nathan couldmake that one up.
Mike (30:31):
Oh that was that was how I that was my struggle right
there.
Nathan (30:34):
They are going to allow free streaming for the Xbox
Cloud Servers.
So think if you're streaming agame and you're in the middle of
an online game, and all of asudden you get like a
progressive ad come across yourdeal and you get shot.
Mike (30:48):
Is that just the price of playing for free?
Ody (30:50):
That doesn't make sense to me.
Mike (30:52):
Well, it actually does when I'm thinking about it,
because if that happens, you'regoing to pay them for non-ad
games.
Yes, that's exactly correct.
It's another one of these, hey,let's screw you up so that you
actually pay for the adjust forwhat we want you to.
Marc (31:07):
When the ad comes up, it doesn't just pause the game and
freeze it.
No.
Nathan (31:11):
Well, I I I don't it was it was released uh two days
ago, so I don't know exactly howthey're planning to do it.
Ody (31:17):
See, I was expecting it like in between battles
personally.
Nathan (31:20):
No, well, they said that it says that it will interrupt
gameplay.
So there's no way if you'replaying like a Call of Duty game
and you're streaming it andit's a good thing.
Mike (31:28):
No, it's just it's just corporate just like in the
bottom.
Ody (31:32):
Arm force aggressive.
It's a snapshot too.
Nathan (31:36):
It's it's like a big protection scam.
Has not been assigned by StudioArc Light Films, which is an
indie film house, but they arein the process of finalizing
negotiations to purchase TillyNorwood's AI.
Mike (31:50):
So they're all true.
Yeah.
Nathan (31:51):
Well, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I said I said signs withHollywood.
There they are in negotiations.
Mike (31:57):
Okay, so here's here's how Nathan plays this game.
Marc (32:00):
Nathan takes the takes one thing and changes a word and
makes it makes it I I agree withthat, Mike, except on this one,
we did talk on a productionmeeting about Tilly and how they
she hadn't been signed yet.
She still has not been signed.
And there's only one study.
I even posted that in the chat.
Yes.
Mike (32:20):
Oh, see, that's where I was at a diff disadvantage
because you were listening.
Yeah.
So if you would have beenlistening, you would have.
No, I wasn't listening.
I was playing Microsoft games.
Nathan (32:29):
I thought they were pick her up.
They now have like threestudios battling out for her AI
studios.
This is well, this is ourworld.
Mike (32:38):
So you can create every day that I live, I I am so
disappointed in humanity.
Ody (32:43):
So this girl is AI?
Mike (32:44):
Yeah, that's an AI generated person, yes.
Nathan (32:47):
They use her in commercials all the time in
Europe.
Big deal.
It's like a big deal.
She comes on and they have her,they have her do music videos.
She hasn't had her own voiceyet.
This is a good one.
So they don't even have a voiceor a story for her.
Repent.
She has not talked or doneanything like that.
She just comes and smiles, andthere'll be background voices
that are there.
So they're developing a voicefor her.
(33:09):
Probably.
Is it gonna be Scarlet?
It's gonna be ScarlettJohansson.
They're gonna chill ScarlettJohansson's AI voice.
And it'll be perfect.
All right.
Well that ends.
No, you cheated.
No, I didn't cheat.
Mike (33:21):
Yeah, this this this is this is one of Nathan's uh I
think this is one of the bestone you've done, Nathan.
Thank you very much.
This is this is referencingwhere he was you know slipping
something earlier in the in theshow.
Uh yeah.
Nathan (33:34):
That ends our segment for our show.
Now let's move on to Mike'smesmerizing moment.
I don't know if I could followthat.
Announcement (33:44):
Welcome to Mike's mesmerizing moment.
What does Mike have to saytoday?
Nathan (33:51):
All right, Mike, do you believe that marketing for large
technology companies employsmore psychology, or do you think
they have special sauce that istracking us?
Kind of back to your story thatyou have.
Special sauce.
Mike (34:02):
What is that supposed to be?
Nathan (34:03):
Well, I mean, is there like a special algorithm or a
special way that they do that,or do you think that they're
just using basic humanpsychology to advertise to us?
Mike (34:11):
Okay, marketing and advertising is all about
psychology.
Okay.
So whether or not they havesome special sauce, they are
taking advantage of humanpsychology or in order to get
you to pay attention to them, tobuy stuff from them, manipulate
you.
Okay.
And that is exactly what you'redoing when you're uh he he
(34:36):
referenced it earlier whenyou're scrolling ads, you know.
He wasn't off the mark there.
He's scrolling ads.
I don't know how many times I II stop watching a YouTube video
because I don't have YouTubePlus.
Yeah.
Nathan (34:49):
Any and you see the any see the ads.
Mike (34:51):
And and it's interrupted by 50 bajillion ads, and I don't
care how you know much I amenjoying the video, I'll uh I'll
stop that.
But that ad will pop upsomewhere else, and I'll be
like, where did I see thatbefore?
Okay, this is all all of thisthat companies are doing is
taking advantage of yourpsychology.
(35:11):
Okay.
It's the same thing thathackers do, it's the same thing
that polit politicians do, it'sthe same thing.
So everything that we're doingand seeing and engaging with in
social media is all psychology.
All of it.
All of it.
Okay.
It just it just some peop someare better at manipulating the
(35:32):
data better than others.
Okay.
Nathan (35:34):
All right.
Well, you know what?
Thank you, Mike, for thatmesmerizing moment.
Up next, we have this week intechnology, so now it'd be a
great time to enjoy a littlewhiskey on the side as we're
gonna be doing so during thebreak.
You're listening to Tech TimeRadio with Nathan Mum.
See you in a few minutes.
Hey Mike.
Yeah, what's up?
Hey, so you know what?
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Mike (35:52):
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Or is it Patreon?
I think it's Patreon.
Okay, Patreon.
If you really like us, you cansay I English guy patreon.com.
I I butcher the Englishlanguage?
You know you butcher theEnglish language.
Nathan (36:08):
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Mike (36:10):
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Announcement (36:53):
And now, let's look back at this week in
technology.
Nathan (36:59):
All right, we're going to October 10th, 1980.
Pac-Man fever begins.
Namco officially transferredthe rights to Midway for
distribution of the game Pac-Manand Rally X in North America.
Well, the exact date thatPac-Man started shipping to
arcades in North America iscurrently unknown.
More sources cite October of1980.
(37:22):
The Japanese released this gameunder the name Pac-Man, which
had occurred in May of 1980.
However, this date is importantbecause the game's popularity
did not take off until it wasreleased in the United States.
Pac-Man will become the firsttrue megahit video game in
history, sparking Pac-Man feverand catapulting the video game
(37:43):
industry into mainstreamculture.
Now the change for Pac-Man toPac-Man was a strategic decision
by Namco to prevent potentialvandalism.
The original Japanese namePac-Man, which was derived from
the Japanese words paku, meaningchomp, uh, was later changed by
the American distributorbecause they were concerned that
(38:03):
the P could be altered on thearcade machines to look more
like an F.
It wasn't F.
Leading to concern, it was anactuality.
Leading to inappropriateoffensive contest.
Oh man.
Inappropriate.
Yeah, that was it.
All right.
That was this week in TechCon.
And there was a song thatreached almost number one.
(38:23):
Pac-Man Fever.
Yeah, Pac-Man was a huge deal.
They got Pac-Land.
I mean, look at here in thestudio.
What do I have right next toOdie?
We have a Pac-Man arcademachine.
Mike (38:34):
She has no idea what that is.
I think she's played Pac-Man.
Nathan (38:37):
Oh, whoa! One finger salute.
All right, that was this weekin technology.
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Announcement (39:23):
The segment we've been waiting all week for.
Marc (39:35):
Alright, you come running on in there?
Yes.
I'm just so excited.
It's like this, like a pitchercoming in to save the day.
All right, there you go.
Nathan (39:43):
Hopefully, you're not a pitcher for the Detroit Tigers.
Mike (39:48):
Let's move away, folks.
Let's move away.
Okay.
Marc (39:51):
Well, today, October 7th, what are we celebrating today,
gentlemen?
Pac-Man Day.
Nathan (39:57):
We are celebrating the Institute of Technology's first
release of the microprocessor.
Marc (40:06):
What are you doing?
His brain is farting.
Oh, we're doing something morehuman.
Oh, okay.
We're celebrating NationalForgiveness and Happiness Day.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh, I forgive you.
I forgive you.
This day is a reminder of thejoy and freedom that forgiveness
can bring into our lives.
While it's tempting to holdgrudges or dwell on revenge,
(40:27):
Nathan.
Studies show that true healingcomes from letting go and
choosing to forgive.
Right, Mike?
That's true.
I don't care.
Hey, hey now.
Hey, Odie, forgiveness is not asign of weakness.
It is an act of strength thatclears the way for happiness,
peace, and personal growth.
So today, fill your heart withlove.
(40:48):
Release old burdens and embracethe art of forgiveness.
It just might be the bestdecision you made.
Even if you have to teethclench it.
Teeth clench it?
Yeah.
Nathan (40:59):
Forgive the Whoa.
Marc (41:02):
Okay.
Nathan (41:02):
Alright.
Continue it on, Mark.
Marc (41:04):
Well, just like forgiveness, a good bourbon
takes patience and time.
Nathan (41:09):
All right.
Marc (41:10):
Resting in the barrel until it's ready to be enjoyed.
Today we are raising not onebut two glasses.
One is from Whistle Pig.
And one is from Barrel.
Both remind us that whetherit's whiskey or our own hearts,
letting things mature alwaysbrings out the best.
(41:31):
Oh boy.
So let's talk about these two.
So we have Nathan's favorite,Whistlepig, Piggyback Bourbon.
Announcement (41:39):
I hate whistle pig.
Marc (41:41):
Distillation from Vermont, Kentucky, and Indiana.
Blend of bourbon six years old,100 proof.
Mash bills undisclosed, $57.
And that's in one glass.
The other glass is from BarrelFoundation.
It is a blend of Kentucky,Indiana, Tennessee, and
Maryland.
A blend of straight bourbonsaged five to nine years,
100-proof.
73% corn, 23% rye, and fourmalted barley at $60.
Ody (42:06):
The gears are really turning in Nathan's mind right
now.
Mike (42:10):
He's trying to figure out which one's which.
I am.
He wants to not choosewhistlepick.
Nathan (42:16):
I think I actually changed my taste now that I have
it.
Because there is one palettethat does taste.
That's not how it works, buddy.
I don't know.
Mike (42:24):
That's not how it works.
I'm still tasting it.
Okay.
Wow.
Somebody, somebody uh has a hasa comment there.
Alright.
We're waiting for you, Mark.
Marc (42:39):
I'm done.
I'm just listening to you guys.
I'm just trying to figure outif I need to taste the whiskey
to be a tiebreaker or if youguys are going to agree on
something.
You probably should taste the Iwill we'll taste them.
And we have plenty to taste.
We ran out of our samples onit.
But this is what for theYouTube people.
For the YouTube people.
Marcus, we're we have barrelbourbon.
Mike (43:01):
Oh.
He brought he brought the hebrought the big bar.
Marc (43:06):
And we got the whistle pig.
Have you even opened thewhistle pig?
I have not.
We're gonna open it right nowif I gotta taste it.
Nathan (43:11):
There's no reason to open the whistle pig.
Ody (43:13):
No, I want to taste it.
Nathan (43:14):
All right.
All right.
Well, you know what?
Thank you, Mark.
You're welcome, Nathan.
Whiskey and technology are sucha great pairing.
Like October and postseasonbaseball.
Mike (43:24):
Oh no.
Nathan (43:25):
Oh yes.
Oh yes.
All right.
Now let's that was better thanpumpkin spice.
Okay, there you go.
Let's prepare for ourtechnology fail of the week.
Announcement (43:36):
Congratulations.
You're a failure.
Oh, I failed.
Did I?
Yes.
Did I?
Yes.
Nathan (43:44):
All right.
As Mark is on screen camerahere tasting stuff.
This week our technology failcomes to us from the
self-driving car, specificallythe company called Waymo.
Mike (43:53):
Waymo.
Nathan (43:53):
Now, California police pulled over a self-driving Waymo
for an illegal U-turn, butthey're stuck.
They don't know how to issue aticket.
Police in Northern Californiawere understandably perplexed
when they pulled over a Waymotaxi after it made an illegal
U-turn only to find no driverbehind the wheel and therefore
no one to ticket.
(44:14):
Now the San Bruno PoliceDepartment wrote in a now viral
week in social media posts thatthe officers were conducting a
DUI operation Saturday morningwhen the self-driving Waymo made
an illegal turn in front ofthem.
Now officers stopped thevehicle but declined to write a
ticket as the citation book doesnot have a box for listen to
(44:35):
this robot.
So they have they only haveindividual drivers, share
drivers, they do not have a boxfor robots.
So that's right.
No drivers, no hands, no clue,reads the post, which was
accompanied by photos of anofficer peering into the car.
The officer contacted Waymo toreport what they called a glitch
in the post and said they hopethe reprogramming will deter
(44:57):
more illegal moves.
Yeah, not gonna happen.
So so let me get this.
So if if I say I'm a robot whenthey pull me over, can I
self-identify as a robot?
Mike (45:08):
Nathan, you can do a lot of things, but pulling off that
one is not one of them.
You don't think I canself-identify as a robot?
Nathan (45:14):
Say right now I feel like I'm a robot, therefore
there is no robot.
I'm pretty sure that's notgonna work.
Ody (45:21):
That's what happens.
What you could do is have likea Tesla, and then at the last
second, jump into the frontseat, like the passenger seat,
and you're like, oh I don'tknow.
Marc (45:30):
Yeah, I'm sure that won't you want on video?
Identify your mannequin in theseat next to you as a human.
Oh, yeah.
You know what?
Mike (45:38):
Oh, you're you're your HOV, your HOV dude.
Yeah.
You see that a lot to wear yourseat.
You see that a lot here inSeattle where people have
mannequins.
Nathan (45:47):
You do see that.
There is all different types.
Now, Waymo is owned by theGoogle Parent Company Alphabet,
and they said that they willlook into this and see what they
can do.
Mike (45:57):
Okay.
Nathan (45:57):
So this is just one more, one more So robots are
allowed to illegally drive onthe roads.
Mike (46:03):
But no, they're not illegal, they're not allowed to
illegally, they just don't knowhow to ticket them.
Nathan (46:08):
Okay.
Mike (46:08):
That's what I don't understand is how anybody who is
working in, you know, thepolice force wouldn't understand
that this is a non-mannedvehicle.
Ody (46:19):
Uh well, you know, maybe they do.
Mike (46:22):
There's just nothing they can do about it.
Nathan said they were reallyconfused about it.
That's what it says in thearticle.
So that's what I'm talkingabout.
They shouldn't be confused.
They should just understandthat they don't have anywhere to
ticket it.
Okay.
Well, you know what?
Now maybe they should just, youknow, drive it off the road.
Nathan (46:36):
Road?
Well, we got soon we will havesome in our own local towns
ourselves.
That's that's I am so excitedfor you.
Ody (46:43):
You are going to be the first.
You're gonna be the first.
I can't wait for people to justbe beaten on the Waymo's.
Because they will.
Nathan (46:54):
All right, you know.
Will they?
Ody (46:56):
Yeah, yeah.
Nathan (46:56):
Let's move on.
Let's move on.
Okay, let's move on to ourNathan Nugget.
Welcome (47:02):
This is your nugget of the week.
Nathan (47:04):
Well, speaking about baseball and robots, guess what
we have coming in the MajorLeague Baseball season 2026?
We are a new robot team?
Yeah, well, you know, a robotteam may be really interested in
it.
Just think of how much lessthat would cost than the player
salaries they currently pay.
It could probably feel likethat.
That's what's gonna happen.
Well, robot umpires are gonnadebut next season.
(47:27):
Oh, robot.
Major League Baseball made ajoint uh decision with the
competition community to vote toapprove the automated ball
strike ABS challenge system thisyear, which allows players to
and challenge human umpires toball strike calls via an
electronic system run by Hawkeyetechnology, already widely used
(47:50):
in sports such as tennis.
Now, this new system will bewidely tested in minor leagues
this year, is now moving intothe Major League Baseball system
for 2026, where Major LeagueBaseball teams will be able to
challenge two calls per game andget an additional peel and
extra innings.
Only a pitcher, catcher, orbatter can challenge this
without input from managers orplayers in the dugout.
(48:13):
Reviews will be shown asdigital graphics in an outside
outfield video scoreboard.
So they're gonna show this onthe big screen on uh on the
technology.
I don't think this is gonnawork.
Umpires have been declaringpitches in and out of strike
zone since the birth of thesports in the 1800s.
Mike (48:30):
Yeah, you and you can't kick dirt onto a robot.
Marc (48:34):
Is it an actual robot or is it just like camera viewers?
Mike (48:37):
Yeah, it's just the camera and stuff.
I don't think it I don't think.
Marc (48:40):
I was hoping robots running around doing the third
base, first base.
Nathan (48:44):
Major like baseball in a statement said Tuesday that the
two-challenge system will bethe middle ground between the
so-called robot umpires thatcould call every ball and strike
on the long-standing traditionof human natural error.
Mike (48:57):
That doesn't answer his question.
Nathan (48:58):
So they are going to have teams in spring training
this year, upcoming year, 2026,that will only have robot
umpires out there testing thesystem.
Mike (49:09):
I don't think this is gonna work because part of the
fun of watching baseball iswatching everybody get up in an
umpire's face and kick dirt andgetting thrown out of the game.
Nathan (49:19):
Five years from now, you can't do that with a robot
thing.
Five years from now, Iguarantee you the home plate um
uh umpire will be a robot.
That is the most subjective.
Is it a robot?
Marc (49:31):
It'll be vision.
It'll be rough.
No, it'll be a robot.
Nathan (49:34):
Robbie the robot.
I I think there will be a robotthat will be out there, or the
Will Robinson robot.
Because there's but the thingthat really this is the only
thing that I struggle with.
Is right now the umpire is whogives the balls away when they
get foul balls and they do that.
Who is going to replacethrowing the ball out to the
pitcher or giving it to thecatcher to throw to the pitcher?
Marc (49:56):
Well, if it's a robot, can't he reach in a little bag
and pull out a ball?
Nathan (49:58):
Maybe that's what they do.
They just have this robotthing.
It's gonna be a vending humanball.
So you just you just go backthere when you're done.
I still think they're gonnahave human umpires around the
baseline.
Ody (50:11):
Okay, that was my question.
Nathan (50:12):
I still think they'll have human umpires at first
baseline, third baseline, in theoutfields for major league
baseball.
But I think they'll think thisis just a bad move.
All right, well, at least youcan hit it with a bat and not
feel bad.
You swing backwards and youdestroy it.
What happens when you destroy arobot?
If you're a player and you getall mad?
Well, I can afford to replaceit.
Come on.
But do you have two robots?
(50:33):
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Do you have two robots on uh doyou have another back?
Mike (50:39):
You know, eventually you're gonna have robot
pitchers.
Ody (50:42):
So I want to know the accuracy of this thing.
Mike (50:44):
Well, they're they're really good.
Nathan (50:46):
I mean, with the video camera stuff that they have for
these tennis matches.
Uh well, they don't now, butnext year I guarantee it'll get
challenged all the time.
Ody (50:53):
The robot thing does sound kind of nice in moments where do
you guys watch the I don't knowwhat it is, the US Open or
whatever?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or Wimbledon or whatever.
Nathan (51:01):
Yeah, we don't care about tennis here.
Yeah, tennis, when you see thatwhere the ball hits and it says
it hit right here and it'sreally close.
Ody (51:06):
I I'm thinking about that match that Coco Goff had against
that European lady where shewould she's talking a foreign
language.
Mike (51:13):
I don't know what she's saying.
Who is that person?
Keep on going.
I I'm with you.
Ody (51:17):
Well, she like would take really long time to get back
into like the ready stance.
Yep.
And the umpire never called it,so Coco Goff like went off on
the ump.
Nathan (51:26):
Yeah.
Ody (51:26):
It would be nice for a robot to actually call that.
Nathan (51:29):
Yeah.
Ody (51:30):
You know, there'd be no bias.
Nathan (51:31):
Yeah.
I think this is gonna have to bea little bit more.
That's the only pro robot that'sa good thing.
Okay, so it's gonna be workingout.
Marc (51:39):
Now I understand the sport.
NFL.
Nathan (51:41):
Now on fourth down, guess what?
When they do, they do no longerbring out the chains.
They look at a computer monitorto decide on fourth downs if
you got it or you didn't get it.
No more bringing.
Yeah, this whole season.
There's nobody bringing thechains out.
They're not putting littleindex cards to see how close
they are and tell what they are.
They have to say no otheroption on fourth downs.
(52:04):
If it's really close, then theywill go to a computer.
I like it better.
I do too.
It's quick, it's easy, and theysay, Yep, okay, that's what we
got.
Mike (52:10):
Yeah, see, with football, I I understand that because you
know, it takes so darn long towatch a game on a Sunday.
On Sunday, yeah.
What are you talking about?
Have you ever watched abaseball game?
It's just the same amount oftime.
All right.
I I don't like watching anysports on my TV.
I I surprises me.
I hate TV sports.
I I like going to an actualgame and watching the actual
(52:32):
game.
Okay.
I'm just gonna be able to dothat.
And uh, you know, if I go feelthat way about baseball games.
If I go to a baseball game, I Igo to watch, you know, fights
and dirt getting kicked on bythe umpire and everybody yelling
at you ever weaver used toalways dis destroy umpires.
Nathan (52:49):
Look up Earl Weaver.
Ody (52:50):
Earl Weaver?
Nathan (52:51):
Yeah, he was a manager for the Orioles back in the 70s.
What did he fight?
Mike (52:56):
I I can't wait until all this AI stuff comes back and and
starts doing exactly what we'redoing now and just fighting
each other.
Nathan (53:03):
Major League Baseball has decided to replace all the
robots with real humans, andthey'll take the errors that
they have just because it's theold time.
All right, you know what?
What did he just say?
We now need to move to the pickof the day.
Welcome (53:15):
And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop.
Mike (53:22):
Bubble, bubble, bubble.
Bubble, bubble, bubble.
Marc (53:26):
What do we got?
We got we got your favoritewhistle pig.
We got we got whistle pig,piggyback bourbon in one glass,
and barrel foundation in theother.
Nathan (53:36):
All right.
Uh this is my pick.
This is the pick I'm going withright here.
The beer glass.
Marc (53:42):
Beer glass.
Okay.
I'm going with the beer glass.
Mike (53:45):
No, it's not.
Yeah, it is.
And then which one did youpick?
Uh, I picked the whistle pig.
Oh no.
Over the barrel because thebarrel.
Hold on.
Did he say he picked the beerover the glen cup?
Beer over the glen cannon.
Ody (53:58):
So they're they're in agreement.
Mike (54:00):
They're in agreement.
They're in agreement.
Ody (54:02):
But hold on.
Mike (54:03):
But that's only because Nathan changed his mind when he
finally found out there waswhistlepig, and then he went and
chose with the whistle pig.
I know this is whistle pig.
Do you think that's whistlepig?
Yes.
Nathan (54:13):
Okay, then I'm going back with this one then.
Mike (54:16):
The reason why I didn't chose choose the Glen Claren is
because I can taste the alcohol.
Oh.
So I believe that's what Markwas talking about, it not being
quite mature enough.
Oh, honest thing.
Nathan (54:29):
Okay.
Okay.
Marc (54:29):
So I'll just so you know, the whistle pig is six years and
barrel foundation is five tonine year blend.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Ody (54:37):
Ooh.
I will say that.
Marc (54:39):
I'm going with this.
I'm going with this.
All right, we got two for thebeer glass.
Do not be whistle pig.
Oh, now now Odie has beentasting in the background and
she knows which one's which.
Which one did you actuallychoose?
Ody (54:48):
I liked the barrel.
Marc (54:49):
You liked the barrel.
Good job.
Ody (54:51):
Did not like the whistle pig at all.
If anything, I don't know ifyou guys can see by face.
Marc (54:55):
Hand me the bottle.
Thank you.
Nathan (54:58):
All right.
Hand me the other bottle.
Whistlepig is nasty, isn't it?
Marc (55:01):
It was nasty.
No, neither one of them werenasty.
All right, let's get to it.
So here we go.
Here's our two bottles.
The winner in the beer thatmoves on to the finals in a
surprising upset.
Whistlepig! Shut up.
Are you kidding?
Are you kidding me?
I chose I had it right and Iswitched my from my one comment
(55:24):
because you always choose theGlencaron.
This is this is this is how thisis how Nathan has developed his
palette.
This was a Princess Bridemoment.
Nathan (55:33):
Yeah.
Oh man.
Marc (55:34):
Whistlepig is nice.
I switched him around, but youhad a you kept thinking it's
nasty.
I hated it.
I know.
I hate it too.
Ody (55:42):
The barrel was so nice.
And then I yeah.
Mike (55:45):
This one doesn't have quite the good finish.
Yes, it did.
I screwed it.
This one was good, but it justdidn't.
Are you?
Ody (55:53):
Okay, but I don't care about Nathan's palette because
he's he just we just knowNathan's palette is wherever
wherever anybody can influenceus.
He would have stuck to hisbones.
Marc (56:01):
He would have chosen is far more marked.
I would have moved on barrel.
Oh my word.
Ody (56:07):
I agree.
Marc (56:08):
Nathan I messed up.
I think the the whistle pigcompared, it has a little bit
more green forward in it.
I do enjoy it.
It is a nice, it's in yourface.
It's got that right boldness init.
Yeah.
That I like.
But the barrel's a little bitmore smooth, which I generally
don't like to use that word, butit's it's more layered.
It is.
And a little bit more complex.
Man, I was so worried I wasgonna pick this up.
Mike (56:29):
Why are you agreeing with him when you have no idea what
he's saying?
Nathan (56:32):
Because I agree.
Mike (56:33):
No, not you, here.
Oh, okay.
Nathan (56:34):
Yeah, these are.
Marc (56:39):
These are hard to put blind against each other because
they they're when you tastethem, they're very close.
Nathan (56:45):
They are very blind.
Marc (56:47):
They affect each other's because the the subtleties of
the barrel.
So you tasted if you had tastedwhistle pig first, I because
that's what I and then you didthe barrel, I think you would
have chosen whistle pig.
But I made sure you did thebarrel first so you got the
layered and the complexitybefore your palate gets blown up
by the whistle pig.
Ody (57:04):
Is there peppercorn in the whistle pig?
Or pepper?
Marc (57:07):
That's crap in it.
There's flavors of that.
Ody (57:09):
I did not.
Marc (57:10):
I did not like whistle pig.
You chose it, buddy.
And yet it's going to thefinals.
Mike (57:14):
You are on the air choosing whistle pig, buddy.
Don't shake your head.
There was no there was nopalette differentiation.
Nathan (57:22):
I was worried about the tie.
And Mr.
Ray made me.
I did not.
Mike (57:27):
I I said nothing.
It was all him talking aboutone of them being whistlepig,
and you were like Mike, we'reabout out of time.
Nathan (57:35):
We want to thank our listeners for joining the
program.
Listeners, we want to hear fromyou.
Visit us at tagtime radio.com.
What the heck is that?
Ody (57:43):
It sounds like Marge's sister.
Mike (57:44):
That's his grumpy man voice.
Turn it into a sound like Margefrom uh No Marge's sisters.
Yeah, the ones that smaller.
Ody (57:51):
Yeah, the grouchy.
Yeah.
There we go.
Nathan (57:54):
All right.
You can always stay connectedby liking us on YouTube.
Guess what?
It was an honor to be the hostof today's show.
Each week we are here to decodethe technology that shapes our
world.
Ody (58:07):
I don't really feel like we decoded anything today.
I think we did.
Mike (58:10):
Other than you have no, like we know we decoded Nathan's
palette right here.
Nathan (58:14):
We decoded the technology that shapes our
world.
Mike (58:16):
This is why Nathan is more affected by marketing than most
people.
Marc (58:22):
Well, that's why there's all the bad whiskey up there
with pretty labels and bourbon.
Yeah.
Nathan (58:26):
At a time.
Remember, the science oftomorrow starts with the
technology of it today.
Later.
See us next week.
Bye-bye.
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