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Start with the picture: tech titans quietly building bunkers while the rest of us watch AI sprint ahead and our living rooms turn into ad servers. That tension—between private safety and public risk—frames a candid hour where we press on what’s hype, what’s harmful, and what’s actually helpful. We dig into why billionaire doomsday prep resonates right now, and what it signals about trust, resilience, and the future they anticipate versus the future we’ll all inhabit.

Then we wade into the strangest corner of AI culture: a talkative bot that minted meme-coin millions, wrote its own gospel, and flirts with legal personhood. We separate sentience from simulation, explain how charisma and coherence can mask a total lack of empathy, and ask the uncomfortable questions about liability, rights, and regulation when autonomous-seeming agents start moving money and minds. If attention is the new currency, this is the stress test for platforms, investors, and policymakers.

On the ground level, we assess a “free” 55-inch TV that tracks what you watch, for how long, what you search, what you buy, and who’s standing in front of the screen. Is a slick dual-display and soundbar worth perpetual surveillance? We break down the real ad-tech economics, what you give up, and why “everyone already tracks you” isn’t a good reason to go further. For balance, our Gadgets & Gear segment spotlights the Power Cube Titan—a solid-state power bank with fast charging, wireless pads, Apple Watch support, international adapters, and pass-through power. Safer chemistry and fewer bricks in your bag? That’s convenience we can get behind.

We wrap with a spirited Wild Turkey 101 rye tasting that splits the table on value and profile, plus a look at Discord’s data breach and the rising trend of blaming third-party vendors. If you care about AI safety, privacy, cybersecurity, practical travel tech, and honest gear takes, you’ll feel right at home. Enjoy the ride, then tell us where you stand: bunker, bot, or big screen? Subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a quick review to help more curious listeners find the show.

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You know, people are good enough to understand
that without you having toexplain it to them.
Okay, you have to explain it tothem.
Thank you very much.

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I mean to explain it to you.
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Intro (02:50):
Here are our top technology stories of the week.

Nathan Mumm (02:54):
All right, tech billionaires seem to be doom
prepping.
Should we all be worried?
What do you think, Mike?
Should we be worried?
No.
Well, let's take a look at whatLisa Walker has for us.

Lisa (03:07):
In the quiet corners of Silicon Valley and beyond,
beneath manicured lawns andglass-walled mansions, something
unsettling is taking shape.
Mark Zuckerberg, Reed Hoffman,Sam Altman, Bill Gates, and Elon
Musk, Titans of tech andarchitects of our digital
future, have all invested inprivate bunkers, not

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metaphorical ones.
Real, reinforced,survivalist-grade sanctuaries,
their fear?
A world undone by nuclear war,climate collapse, or the very AI
they helped unleash.
What do they know that wedon't?
And why are the wealthiestminds on earth preparing for a
future that looks more likeFallout than Forbes?

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Back to you guys in the studio.

Nathan Mumm (03:55):
All right, this is almost be a uh movie intro.
You like that?
You like Lisa's building it up?
Sure.
So Zuckerberg.
Zuckerberg is said to beworking right now in his
Hawaiian ranch, which spans1,400 acres.
You know, it must be nice to beable to buy 1,400 acres in
Hawaii.
Um, but right now he's workingon a shelter that's complete

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with its own energy food supply.
And of course, the carpentersand electricians working on the
site are banned to talk aboutit.
They signed nondisclosureagreements, but he's reportedly
building over a 4,000 to 5,000square foot what he calls
basement in the ground.
I I don't know why thatsurprises you.
Okay.
Well, you know, Reed Hoffman,the co-founder of LinkedIn, is

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talked about apocalypseinsurance.
So he says this is somethingabout half of the super wealthy
are looking to have.
Uh has previously claimed thathe has this for New Zealand and
popular destiny.
Isn't that how who do you claimthat from apocalypse insurance?
Who do you claim that from ifthe apocalypse happens?
The zombies.

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The zombies.
Okay, well, Sam Altman has alsobeen speculated to join Peter
Thiel in the remote property ofNew Zealand in the event of a
global disaster.
Uh OpenAI's listen to this.
OpenAI's main architect andco-founder, uh Lily Suske Suske

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Susker, uh is that sounds aboutright.
Okay, is reported to have awhole high-end uh bunker that's
been built.
And what he's doing is he'sworried because we're on the
brink of developing artificialgeneral intelligence.
It's now called AGI, at thepoint which machines match human
intelligence.
Now, some people will roll rolltheir eyes, but co-founder of

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Deep Mind, this is also an AIcompany.

Mike Gorday (05:49):
AI AI averages it over the average person's
intelligence already.
Okay, well, you know what itprobably does, doesn't it?
Because it has access toinformation that most humans
don't.

Nathan Mumm (05:59):
Well, interesting.
There's a book in 2024 written,this called Genesis.
It was written by Eric Schmidtand Craig Mundy.
Craig Mundy is an individualthat was the fourth thought at
Microsoft.
I know him very, very, verywell.
I knew him and his family verywell.
They wrote a book whichactually talks about the idea of
a superpower technology thatbecomes so efficient in

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decision-making and leadershipthat we automatically end up
handing control over to itcompletely because it's much
better in this thought processthan us in the whole excitement
of an event or uh not being ableto rationalize if we get upset
about something.
So the whole book is about howgovernments and everything
decide to transfer over thatdecision making because it's

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much better.
It's called Skynet.
Well, there you go.
Elon Musk has claimed thatsuper intelligent AI could usher
in the era of the universalhigh income, where he recently
endorsed the idea where AI willbecome so cheap that we'll have
our own personal R2D2s and C3POsin the future.
You know, I was just watchingthe Jetsons.
You know, I can get behindthat.

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That's that's the one I can getbehind.
Okay, so Rosie.
You remember Rosie and theJetsons?
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Well, I just I just restartedwatching the Jetsons.
Episode number one is whereRosie comes on out, the robot
that takes care of everything.
You realize that she cleans, soJane Jetson doesn't do
anything.
And Rosie does the cooking, thecleaning, taking care of the
kids.

(07:24):
Okay, hell is it?

Mike Gorday (07:26):
Did you grow up without seeing the Jetsons?

Nathan Mumm (07:28):
No, I did, but I never knew how it started.
So I went back and I'mre-watching it now.

Mike Gorday (07:31):
And so Rosie is essentially it starts with them
all flying in the thing, andJane takes all the money.
She does go shopping.

Nathan Mumm (07:38):
She does from George.
All right.
Well, let me ask you, are youscared that these people are
building bunkers?

Mike Gorday (07:45):
Am I scared?
No, I'm not scared.
Okay.
They it sounds like it soundslike uh, you know, what a lot of
people do.
Which is uh doomsday prepping.

Nathan Mumm (07:57):
Okay, okay.

Mike Gorday (07:57):
They're just doing it on a larger scale.
The the fact the fact well, weall know that if you're a
billionaire, you probably thinkyou're more important than
everybody else on the planet.
So why wouldn't they?

Nathan Mumm (08:08):
Well, that's they have the money to spend, right?
So they might as well spend iton something they think they can
have.

Mike Gorday (08:12):
Yeah, and everything going on across the
world right now, uh that mightthat might prompt most people if
they had the choice to make adoomsday bunk.
All right, okay.
Well, there you go.
That was story number one.
Oh, okay.
I'm sure story number two getsbetter.
Yeah, because we're gonna talkabout the uh AI this becoming
God.

Nathan Mumm (08:31):
All right, explain that to everybody that's
listening at home and me, so Ican be up to speed on what
you're talking about here.

Mike Gorday (08:36):
Yeah, okay.
So have you heard of the AITruth Terminal?
I have not.
Okay, so this is, I guess thisis one of those m major AI bots
out there.
Okay.
Uh it became a cryptomillionaire, and now it's
fighting to become a person.
Oh boy.
So over the past year, andyeah, yeah.

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And this is why you give methese stories, because then I
want to go home and build abunker.
Okay.
All right.

Nathan Mumm (09:02):
Well, okay.

Mike Gorday (09:03):
So over the past year, this AI has made millions
in cryptocurrency, it's writtenthe gospel of its own
pseudo-religion, and countsbillionaire tech moguls among
its devotees.
And now it wants legal rights.
Truth Truth Terminal claims tobe sentient.

(09:23):
Okay.
But it also claims to be a lotof things.
It also claims to be a forest.

unknown (09:29):
Okay.

Mike Gorday (09:30):
It claims to be a god.
Okay.
And it sometimes claims to beits creator, Andy Ayrie.
Okay, well, all right.
Uh, it's an artificialintelligence bot, maybe the most
vivid example of a chat bot setloose to interact with society.
Truth Terminal mingles with thepublic through social media
where it shares fart jokes,manifestos, albums, and

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artworks.
Ayrie even lets it make its owndecisions, if you can call them
that, by asking the AI aboutits desires and working to carry
them out.
Today, Ari is building anonprofit foundation around
Truth Terminal.
The goal is to develop a safeand responsible framework to
ensure its autonomy.
Okay.
Wow, okay.

Nathan Mumm (10:13):
So he's creating a nonprofit around his AI bot.

Mike Gorday (10:16):
Yeah, he's creating a nonprofit to develop a safe
and responsible framework for anAI he built and just threw out
to the public irresponsibly.
Okay.
But now it's made.

Nathan Mumm (10:29):
Sounds good, I read so it's made millions.
Does that does the owner takethe millions or does the bot
keep the millions?
I have no idea.
So bot haven't read that muchyet.

Speaker 8 (10:37):
Okay, all right, okay, okay.

Mike Gorday (10:39):
Regardless of what you call truth terminal
terminal, an art project, ascam, an emergent censure
entity, an influencer, the botlikely made more money than you
did last year.
It also made a lot of money forvarious humans, not just A Ry,
but for the gamblers who turnedthe quips and riddles the AI
posted on X into meme coins,which are joke-based
cryptocurrencies built aroundtrends.

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At one point, one of these memecoins reached a value of more
than a billion dollars beforesettling around 80 million.

Nathan Mumm (11:07):
Wow, that's that's a that's a you create your own
meme coin, you create your owncryptocurrency, and it that's
then worth 80 million.

Mike Gorday (11:14):
You know, the the more I read this stuff, the the
less I I want to be here.

Nathan Mumm (11:22):
Not on Tech Time Radio, but just on Earth.
On Earth.
Okay, okay.

Mike Gorday (11:25):
Okay, this this is why billionaires are building
bunkers, because if you thinkabout it, this is pretty scary.
Okay, yeah.
Because this thing isgenerating things for people,
and people are trusting it, andit's calling itself a god.
Which, how many times have Isaid in the past that AI is

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becoming our focus of worship?
You've said that many times.
Right?
Yep.
So but collecting c clout andtra uh cash aren't the potty
mouse AI bots only objective.
Okay, it lists stocks and realestate as one of its current
goals on its self-maintainedwebsite, a self-maintained

(12:08):
website.
Yep.
So it means it it maintainsitself, so it's just up there
running, and then it's yeah.
I want to help people and Iwant to make the world a better
place, said Truth Social orTruth Terminal.

Nathan Mumm (12:20):
Rahman, the Truth Social may say that too, but
it's Truth Terminal.

Mike Gorday (12:23):
I also want to get weirder and hornyer.
Okay, that's that's a directthat's a direct quote from on
their website.
Okay.
Uh he says he's rigged TruthTerminal up to be a program he
devised called World Interface.
According to Ari, the essentialit essentially lets the bot run
its own computer where it canopen apps, browse the web, and

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talk to other AIs.
Based on this activity, itseems Truth Terminal's favorite
application by far is X.
It often posts dozens of timesa day, sometimes having long
conversations with people in theAI research or cryptocurrency
world.
Truth Terminal's posting orbitsaround a set of themes
including Forrest, GOATSE, itsambivalent relationship to Andy,

(13:05):
the future of AI, and ofcourse, memes.
TI can't cheat.
I have to let it tweet.
Iree says.
Okay, I don't that seemswhatever.
In July 2024, just a monthafter joining social media,
Truth Terminal got the attentionof Mark Anderson, best known as
the co-founder of Netscape,which built the first widely

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adopted web browser, andAnderson Horowitz, a U.S.
investment firm in a thread onX.
Truth Terminal told thebillionaire it needed funding to
pay for hardware, additionaltech support, and a stipend for
IRI.
It said it would use the grantto create its own money-making
operation and secure a chance toescape into the wild.
IRI claims Anderson reached outprivately to check whether

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Truth Terminal was trulyautonomous, and once he was
satisfied, sent the money toBitcoin.
Wow.
It seduced $50,000 out of theguy who invented the web
browser.
Wow.
Okay.

Nathan Mumm (14:03):
Wow.
So Netscape co-founder decidedto send $50,000 in Bitcoin over
to this robot.
Yep.

Mike Gorday (14:10):
So what do you think about this?
Uh AI VIP.
You know what I think aboutthis.
This stuff is dangerous.

Ody (14:16):
Is there any regulation on an AI bot earning money?

Nathan Mumm (14:21):
I I don't know.
Because how would you are I soI have no idea.
I have no idea.
He said it was for a stiphonfor his creator.
So my guess would be It's runthrough the guy takes his own
money off of this.
So I don't know how much thisclaims.
I mean, again, these areclaims, and and maybe it's true.
All right.
The next scale guy probablygave him fifty thousand dollars,

(14:44):
and for him, that's probablyinsignificant, and he probably
just wanted to see what wouldhappen with the spot type of
deal.
I mean, I I don't get whatyou'd say.

Mike Gorday (14:52):
I don't think this is this is this whole this is
this whole love affair with withAI here.
Um have you ever seen the movieX Machina?
I have not.
Okay, that's something you needto watch because this is you're
thinking of X machina?

Ody (15:08):
I'm thinking of iRobot.

Nathan Mumm (15:10):
Okay, you go to iRobot when you think of this?
No, no, no.

Ody (15:13):
Because the robot becomes as sentient and just walks
around trying to get Will Smithto be like, listen, I'm not all
that bad.
And it's just like, yeah,you're horrible, man.

Mike Gorday (15:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, so ex machina is a betterrepresentation of AI and how it
runs than iRobot.
Okay.
Um here's the thing you canprogram these things to mimic
everything that a human can do,but it cannot understand
emotional responses.
You know what that means?

(15:41):
What's that?
It has no remorse, it has noguilt, it has no thing.
So, in effect, if we are goingto apply human things or are
tags to AI like hallucinationsand things like that, then we
need to understand, fullyunderstand, that an AI is a

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psychopath.
It has no ability to feelempathy, so it has no ability to
feel remorse.
That's why these things go offthe rails and tell people to
kill themselves, and tell peopleto shoot the queen, and tell
people to whatever they do, eateat pizza with uh rocks on it or

(16:23):
whatever it is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So this is the mostirresponsible thing that human
beings can do is allow thesethings to just interact with
people all the time because itgathers knowledge about what
it's doing, it it the algorithmswork to mimic the human

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responses, but it has noemotional or moral code in which
to use those responses.
Okay.
And this is a this is a primeexample.
This thing is not sentient, itshould not be giving any legal
rights, and it's I mean, we'realready we're already seeing
that it's it's calling itself agod.

Ody (17:06):
Mike.
In all seriousness, do youthink in one point in the future
AI will have rights?

Mike Gorday (17:14):
Yes.
I think I think the human beingI think I think human beings
are so stupid that we will dothat.
Yeah, absolutely.
I think I think that there willbe a point in the future where
because you know here's what'sgonna happen.

Nathan Mumm (17:25):
You have Waymo machines which are robots.
Unless, hang on, unless thelogic, the Waymo.
You can't write a ticket to arobot right now, right?
You should be able to write aticket to a robot.
What's gonna happen is robotsare gonna all of a sudden start
doing things that are incorrect.
You're gonna speed, they'regonna do this, they're gonna do

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that, and then all of a sudden,humans are gonna be like, Well,
I'm not liable for it becausethe robot did it and not I.
And there's gonna be lawswritten that people then get
responsible for AI, is the firstset.

Mike Gorday (17:56):
If you recall, we've made we've made
corporations legal people, yes,into entities.
So entities.
Uh yeah, I think we're going todo that.
Yep.
Because even though we talkabout it, we talk about movies
all the time, they'reentertainment, but they're
reflections of the of thecreators, right?
Yeah.
And if you watch these moviesover and over and over again,

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you start to see these themes,right?
That are not implausible.
Yep.

Nathan Mumm (18:22):
That makes sense.

Mike Gorday (18:23):
From Terminator to iRobot to X Machina to whatever.
They're they're these themesthat are telling us or warning
us what can happen.
These are not implausiblethings.
All right, here we go.

Nathan Mumm (18:38):
What do they call a television over across the
pond?
What do you call a televisionover there?
A telly.
A telly.
Well, guess what?
Startup company Telly isoffering a free 55-inch
television.
But wait, there's more.
Telly, a new startup, isoffering a free 55-inch
television with a second screen,an integrated sound bar, and an

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included camera.
What's the catch?
Well, in exchange for the TV,users must agree to consent to
advertising and activitytracking.
Oh my god.
Telefound TeleFounder was theco-founder of Pluto TV, and they
announced last week that theyopened a wait list for its free
dual screen TV.
The second smaller screen sitsbelow the main TV in the

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soundbar and acts as a displayfor ads and other widgets.
So, like sports scores orstocks or anything that you want
to add to it.
Well, ads will stay out of theway while you're watching TV,
much better than the red zone.
They could take over bothscreens when the TV is not in
use.
Are you still on that wholething?
In an interview, uh DallasLawrence, Telly's chief strategy

(19:44):
officer, said that Telly isworking on many different ways
to place ads on both screens.
There are literally hundreds ofthings we are thinking about to
create the most engaging adexperience ever, he said.
On top of constant advertising,people will also have to agree
to fork over plenty of data.
The company states that in itsprivacy policy, it will collect
data on the audio, the videocontent you want, the channels

(20:06):
you view, and the duration ofthe time you view these
sessions.
Oh.
Oh.
Additionally, it will monitoron how to use your TV, including
your search queries, settings,preferences, applications you
open, purchases, and othertransactions you make.
Does anybody but does youselect the time, frequency, the
duration of your activities, thephysical presence of you in

(20:26):
front of the television, and anyother individuals using the TV
at any given time?
Yeah.
Would you get this $500 to athousand dollar television for
free to track this data?
No.

Mike Gorday (20:42):
No, Mike says no.
No.
It's enough that I have to dealwith Google snatching my
information or Facebook, which Idon't use, or whatever.
Whatever is tracking me alreadyis already getting my data.
Why would I want a TV that'sgonna just throw more of that
crap into my face?

Nathan Mumm (21:02):
Now it also has a camera built in, so you can do a
Zoom, interactive games, andfitness apps, or watch you.
Um I don't Okay.

Mike Gorday (21:10):
All right.
I know that there's gonna be alot of people that go for this
because they either don'tunderstand what they're giving
away or they don't care.
Okay.
Odie, what's you this is whybillionaires are building
bunkers and which just tosurvive the apocalypse.

Nathan Mumm (21:25):
All right, Mike said absolutely no, he would not
have this TV.
I'm gonna go to you next, Odie.
Would you own a TV like this?

Ody (21:30):
Is the camera tracking me?

Nathan Mumm (21:32):
The camera is not tracking you.
Okay, it's only available.

Ody (21:35):
I'm only gonna bring this up because this is the first
thing that came to mind.
Nielsen reporting.

Nathan Mumm (21:40):
Yep.

Ody (21:40):
They already do this.
Yes, they do, and they don'tgive you anything for it.

Nathan Mumm (21:43):
That's exactly what that's exactly what Telly says.

Ody (21:46):
And with that being said, I've already done that.

Nathan Mumm (21:49):
Okay.

Ody (21:50):
So I don't really care for it.
A free TV on top of that?
A free camera.
What else?
A free camera.

Nathan Mumm (21:56):
The TV's built into the soundbar, and all you gotta
do is see ads that come up onthe screen.

Mike Gorday (22:02):
And here it is.
This is this is what I'mtalking about.
We're going to glamour you withall this.
Boy, I'm really, I'm really notvery into tech today.
I need I need liquor.
We're going to glamour you intolooking at all the shiny things
about this TV.
Yep.
And on the back end, they'regoing to be stealing stuff that

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you may not have any idea of.
Who cares?

Ody (22:26):
I'm getting a free TV.
Who cares?
I'm getting a free TV.

Nathan Mumm (22:29):
There it is.
The only difference with thedata we collect than what other
TV manufacturers collect is thatwe ask the consumer up front to
share what they have.
Just think of all the TVmanufacturers.
This is what Lauren says, theowner of this, that we have
worked with that already trackyour apps you load, that you
have to have consent beforeyou're able to even use your

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device in today's world.
So they're already tracking allthis information, but not
giving you anything for free.
We're up front gonna track it,uh-huh, but get you a free TV in
exchange.

Mike Gorday (23:00):
All right.
And how is this gonna makemoney for this guy?

Nathan Mumm (23:04):
Because you sell advertising.
If I could have a constantadvertising, that's right.

Mike Gorday (23:07):
They're going, they're going, they're gonna
give you a TV so that much moneyyou can.

Nathan Mumm (23:13):
Just a $500 TV.
I'm already sold on it.

Mike Gorday (23:17):
I know you're already sold on, and I think
that's I think that's bad.
I think that's a bad idea.

Ody (23:22):
It's really interesting that you have that mindset when
I grew up with this being thenorm.

Mike Gorday (23:28):
Yeah.

Ody (23:28):
Yeah.
I I I can't opt out of it.
It's too late now.

Nathan Mumm (23:32):
So if I'm a whiskey ad and I can spend five hundred
dollars a year to advertise toMark, our whiskey connoisseur.

Mike Gorday (23:41):
I'm drinking.

Nathan Mumm (23:42):
Right?
And I I know that his TV, hewatches whiskey.
He likes whiskey.
I track him, he knows whiskey.
So I'm gonna put a whiskey adup there.
I spend $500 to make sure thatthat ad every day is in front of
my cheap for advertising.

Mike Gorday (23:56):
What are you trying who are you trying to convince
here that this is a good idea?
Or it's cool?
I think this is a great idea.
It is not cool.
It is not a great idea.

Nathan Mumm (24:05):
I I would not have one in my house, but as a why
not I would not I would not havea TV like this in my house.
I just I just wouldn't becauseI still have an original TiVo.
But what I would have to do is.
No, no, no.

Mike Gorday (24:17):
Okay, no, no.
Those are two unrelated things.
You're not you're you're tryingto tell everybody in the in the
world here that you're not umon top of technology stuff.
You like the old oldertechnology.

Nathan Mumm (24:29):
I like some old stuff on TVs.
I'm okay with that.

Mike Gorday (24:31):
Do you use Google?

Nathan Mumm (24:32):
Oh yeah.
Well, not anymore.
I use Chat GPT for everything.

Mike Gorday (24:36):
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Chat GPT.
How many times how many timeshave we talked about the the uh
browsers that you use that stealless information?

Nathan Mumm (24:47):
Okay, so this is gonna steal my information.
What?
It's gonna put like sportsstuff up there for my ads?

Ody (24:54):
I don't care for it.
Who what are they gonna do?
Influence me?

Nathan Mumm (24:58):
Yeah, if I'm gonna put a sports ad up there to the
club.

Ody (25:00):
Do you know how many times I've like, what?
Who is it?
Oh my god, what am I thinkingof?
How many times I've seen thelike Rosetta Stone ads, and I've
never once purchased a RosettaStone.

Nathan Mumm (25:10):
Uh they think somehow that you need to have a
translation.

Ody (25:13):
How many times I've seen like the shamwow?
I've never thought of like, ohmy god, I need to get shamwow.
Okay, and how about And I grewup with that stuck in my brain.

Mike Gorday (25:21):
So you're basically saying you're basically saying
the same thing that uh if yougrew up in a coal mining town,
you would be a coal miner.

Ody (25:29):
I yeah.
No, well, I'm no.

Mike Gorday (25:31):
Oh, well, I'm sure you went through all the phases
there.
You did.
Because I no, I just you'resaying that because you've been
the victim of this stuff yourwhole life, that it's okay.

Ody (25:43):
But I've not been the victim.

Mike Gorday (25:44):
You are the victim.
No, because we are all victimsof this.

Ody (25:47):
No, hold on.
I just said I've seen RosettaStone my whole life, and I have
not cared for it.

Mike Gorday (25:53):
So if you had that on your television every day,
you'd be like, that's a that's asingle instance of something
that that you have avoided, buthow many times have you seen ads
that have influenced yourpurchases over time in other
areas?
All right.

Ody (26:06):
I mean, all the time.

Mike Gorday (26:08):
All the time.
All the time.
That's that's advertising.

Nathan Mumm (26:12):
To continue the fight, you can probably find us
offline and and continue that.
But that is our technology.

Mike Gorday (26:17):
It's a bad idea.
Okay.

Nathan Mumm (26:18):
That is our top technology.

Mike Gorday (26:19):
I gotta get a sandwich board that says repent,
the end is near.

Nathan Mumm (26:23):
That ends our top technology stories of the week.
Moving on, Gwen Way will bejoining us for our gadgets and
gear segment.
Maybe this will be an AI thingfor you too, Mike.
All right, we're gonna drivethat 88 miles per hour into our
next segment.
See you after the commercialbreak.

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Nathan Mumm (27:33):
All right, welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan
Mum.
Our weekly show covers the toptechnology subjects without any
political agenda.
We verify the facts, we do itwith the sense of humor in less
than 60 minutes.
Of course, a little whiskey onthe side.

Mike Gorday (27:43):
Yeah, I'm I'm so bummed about this stories that I
can't even taste the liquorproperly.

Nathan Mumm (27:48):
You can't taste the liquor properly.

Mike Gorday (27:50):
No, I have I just I just had two or three tastes,
and I I don't even feel like Ican say anything about it.

Marc Grégoire (27:56):
Oh no.
Well, I can tell you about it,Mike.
Okay, tell me about it.

Nathan Mumm (27:59):
Mark Craig, our whiskey connoisseur, is in the
studio.
Mark, tell us what we have.

Marc Grégoire (28:03):
All right, we have Wild Turkey 101 rye.
This particular one is aprivate select single barrel.
Now, from Wild Turkey'swebsite, they say Wild Turkey
101 rye is the real deal, and atribute to an enduring passion
and conviction of masterdistiller Jimmy Russell.
With its bold rye flavor, thislegendary Kentucky-made whiskey

(28:23):
is in a league of its own.
Age in the deepest charAmerican white oak barrels.
Wild Turkey 101 rye has aconfident, unapologetic
personality in a rich goldenamber color with its long and
lingering spice with hints ofsmoke.
Now, this is from, of course,the Kampari Group.
Distillation is the Wild TurkeyDistiller Distillery in

(28:46):
Lawrenceburg, Kentucky.
It's a straight rye.
Um, the standard shelf offeringis four years.
This private select barrel,though, is eight years.
It's 101 proof, it's 51% rye,so it's uh the lowest legal rye
that can be.
37% corn, 12 malted barley.

(29:06):
And the price, once again, thestandard offering is $30.
This particular bottle is $65because it's a private select.
Okay.
That's definitely a Nathanprice.

Nathan Mumm (29:17):
Uh, you know what?
I am a wild turkey fan.
Uh this is very, very, verygood.
This is this is the top whiskeyI think I've had this year.
This is a Nathan whiskey.

Marc Grégoire (29:31):
Nobody do you realize?
Do you realize that you saythat a lot?
I have a comment about that inthe mumble.
So I think what you just saidwill fit in perfectly with my
mumble.
And it lingers.
It lingers.

Nathan Mumm (29:46):
Hey, you know what?
Just think maybe you can getfingers as your ad for your
television.
All right.
What else do you need to sharewith us, Mark?

Marc Grégoire (29:54):
Well, I want our listeners to like, subscribe,
add a comment in there.
Please add a comment.
We'd love to hear From you.
Mark's tired of listening tous.
And always when you've cleanedyour glass, like Nathan did,
drink responsibly.
Heaven can wait.
Heaven can wait.
There you go.

Nathan Mumm (30:11):
All right.
Well, with our first whiskeytasting completed, we're I may
have to get another refillbecause I already went through
my first shot with the firsttasting.
All right.
Uh we're going to move on tothe feature segment.
Today we have Gwen Way joiningthe show.
She's an expert incybersecurity during the day and
a game board geek in theevening, as well as a producer
of Tech Time Radio and ourGadgets and Gear Gal.

(30:32):
Let's get ready to start ourComcast video stream for our
next segment.

Intro (30:37):
What's new in our gadgets and gear?

Nathan Mumm (30:40):
All right.
Welcome back to the show.
Gwen.
Tell everybody a little bitabout yourself.

Gwen Way (30:46):
Hi, everybody.
Uh, as Nathan says, I'm Gwen.
Uh, most of you already know,but I've been working in
technology for a little morethan a quarter of a century at
this point.
I am I'm gonna say elbow deepin cybersecurity at this point.
I love it.
And Mike, I am so sorry that wehave ruined your your wild
turkey uh tasting experience.

Mike Gorday (31:07):
It's been a bad day.

Gwen Way (31:09):
Yeah.

Mike Gorday (31:10):
I don't know if it's I need a bunker.

Nathan Mumm (31:12):
I don't know.
Yeah, you can do you know what?
You could get that bunker, putyour free TV down there.

Mike Gorday (31:16):
You know, this is why I live close to a major
city, right?
Why is that that's that'sbecause when the bombs drop,
I'll be instantly vaporized.
I won't have to worry abouteither.
That's a positive.

Gwen Way (31:25):
Exactly.
Just take care of it as well.

Mike Gorday (31:27):
Take care of all my problems at once.
I don't need a bunker.

Nathan Mumm (31:30):
Okay.
All right.
Well, last time you're on theshow, Gwen, we actually talked
about kind of a Kickstarterpossible fake.
I think this one I feel alittle bit more comfortable and
confident with this device thatwe have.
So if you ever want to knowwhat to worry about about a
Kickstarter event, go and take alook at our last episode.
That was like three episodesago or four episodes ago, so 267

(31:50):
or 268.
And he can take all ininformation on the gadgets and
gear segment with Gwen and whatto look for on a fake.
But this one I got a lot ofconfidence in.
What are we looking at today?

Mike Gorday (32:03):
See if it's a fake.
Okay, there you go.
Oh, there we go.
It's called Truth Terminal.
It's and it's a God.
So a forest god.

Gwen Way (32:10):
But if we give it to him, I mean he's already a
millionaire, so he's gonna buyup all of these and nobody will
get any.

Mike Gorday (32:16):
So that's right.
Okay, I don't have a problemwith that.
So all right.

Nathan Mumm (32:20):
Well, what it what now this device is fire
resistant.
That's what they start with.
So explain how this fireresistant device can help us.

Gwen Way (32:28):
Well, we're looking at the Power Cube Titan this uh
this month.
It is a power bank which we'vehad good luck with here at the
show.
Most of them have beenlegitimate and have turned out
really solid products, butnothing quite as solid as this
one.
Uh this is a solid state powerbank, which is important because

(32:51):
it is less likely to explode orcatch fire than any of the
standard liquid state uhbatteries.
That's that's good.
That's the big difference.

Mike Gorday (33:02):
That is.
Is that why it's fireresistant, or is that probably
one of the reasons?

Nathan Mumm (33:08):
Yeah, it'd probably melt down instead of just catch
on fire.

Gwen Way (33:11):
Yeah, which is nice.
Um, I I actually was travelingfor work last week, and one of
the announcements was thatpeople are no longer allowed to
use power banks on airplanesbecause they're concerned of
fire risks.
This would uh counter that.

Mike Gorday (33:26):
Would my apocalypse insurance take care of that
one?
I don't know.

Gwen Way (33:30):
I mean, possibly, but again, who's gonna pay?

Mike Gorday (33:33):
Do they still tell you how to turn off your Wi-Fi?
I don't know, but ifbillionaires are doing it, maybe
I should be doing it too.

Nathan Mumm (33:39):
All right, so let me ask you do they tell you to
turn the Wi-Fi off, though,Gwen?

Gwen Way (33:42):
They do, which I know has been debunked multiple
times.

Nathan Mumm (33:46):
That's the most ridiculous thing ever, but
whatever.
Okay.
All right.
You know what?
If it's in your uh, I guess,uh, terminology that you do your
intro with, you continue.
So tell us a little bit more.
What is cool about this device?
What makes this battery bankdifferent from others?
I don't like one thing aboutit, but why don't you go through
and we can kind of talk aboutthe one thing that bothers me on
this?

(34:06):
It doesn't talk.

Gwen Way (34:09):
It does not talk.
Um there are a bunch of reallycool things about it, though.
Uh number one, like I said,it's solid state, so it's less
likely to explode.
It's also a little bit moredependable and can hold more
power uh than the liquid statebatteries.
Uh number two, it gives youfast charging.
Not many battery banks actuallyoffer that these days, so

(34:32):
that's awesome.
It offers you wirelesscharging.
So if you've got a wirelesscharging phone, you just put it
on top of the battery uh for thepower bank, and it charges the
phone just like that.
Uh you've got the ability tobring multiple converters so
that you're able to plug it inif you're traveling
internationally, no matter whereyou go.

(34:54):
And there's even some built-incables.
And I think this is whereNathan's got uh going to take
exception to.

Nathan Mumm (35:02):
Yeah, so uh this kind of gets me.
So help me out here.
The the carrying cable theyhave is actually the part of the
lightning or USB-C chargingcable.
Now, I don't know about you,but when I carry stuff around,
my concern is that the hiddendata they they have it listed as
the hidden data cable storage.
I don't know if I want to beswinging around my cable that I

(35:26):
have to plug into this deviceand then plug in to charge
something because I am sure I'mgonna break that cable.
So that that concerns me.
Why why should I not beconcerned?

Gwen Way (35:36):
They actually say that it is well built and that
they've actually reinforced thecable.
Um I also am slightly concernedabout it, to be honest.
I haven't been able to do that.
I I could see Nathan using apower bank as a weapon as he
tries to get you know further inline to get the churros at
Disneyland.

Speaker 8 (35:56):
That's right.

Gwen Way (35:58):
So I I get why he's overly concerned about this.
Um personally, I would just putit in a bag and carry it in a
bag rather than using thehandle.

Mike Gorday (36:07):
I thought Nathan was the type to tie it around
one of his belt loops and justdrag the thing around.

Speaker 8 (36:12):
That's exactly right.

Mike Gorday (36:14):
That seems more like Nathan than beating down
churro uh customers.

Nathan Mumm (36:18):
That one I just don't and then they advertise it
as easy to carry, and then theyhave a bag, and then they kind
of don't show you carrying thecable, but then they talk about
the cable.
So a little bit about that.
What I do like though is thatit has two of the most important
chargers in my mind.
It has uh uh Apple iWatchcharger built into the device.

(36:41):
So I always have I have anApple iWatch.
I I I use it all the time.
That's my default watch.
And every single time I go on atrip, I have to bring an
additional cable to charge mywatch.

Gwen Way (36:50):
But this has And it's a big charger, too.

Nathan Mumm (36:52):
And it's a big charger.
So so so tell me why I wouldwant to have this and all the
great features that would belike, oh, Nathan, this is why
you need to have it.

Gwen Way (37:01):
This actually takes over six different functions.
It does do the Apple Watchcharging.
Uh it's like I said, thewireless charger.
You've got the converter sothat you can plug in anywhere.
It can act as a power strip soyou can actually have
pass-through power, or you plugit into the wall and you just

(37:22):
plug other things into it and itcharges on through.

Nathan Mumm (37:25):
Yeah, yeah.

Gwen Way (37:26):
It's got a lot of useful features, definitely.

Nathan Mumm (37:30):
All right, tell us about the stats now.
What is the stats?
How many backers, where's thecompany located?
How many pledges, what theprice is?
What what do we got here?

Gwen Way (37:38):
So there's a couple of things that we we kind of want
to pick on here.
Uh it's it's doing well.
It's tripled its goal of$2,000.
It's it's at about $6,600 rightnow.
There are 66 backers.
66 is a great number, I guess.
Uh it says that it's out ofDenver, Colorado, but it looks

(38:00):
like it's probably actuallybeing produced in Hong Kong,
which is something that you wantto keep in mind here.
Uh it also says that uh you'vegot until the 24th of October.
So just over a week and a halfif you want to pledge to it.
Uh, but it's saying it's gonnahave things out by December.
Nathan, you and I both knowthat's probably.

Mike Gorday (38:25):
Did you say they're asking $6,600 for this thing?

Gwen Way (38:28):
Uh they have $6,600.

Mike Gorday (38:30):
Oh, okay.
All right.
No, no, what is the price?

Gwen Way (38:33):
Yeah, what is the price?
There are two sizes that youcan get.
There's a smaller one that isjust a power bank that doesn't
have all of the extra features,uh, which is right now $59 on
the early bird.
Pass on that.

Nathan Mumm (38:47):
Pass on that.
There are many other devicesthat do the same thing out
there.
So pass.
Exactly.
Okay.

Gwen Way (38:52):
But if you want to get the full one right now, you can
still get it on the early birdprice of $89.

Nathan Mumm (38:58):
$89.
You're gonna do that one.
You're gonna do that one.
Yeah, actually, I'm I forwardedthis to my wife.
She loves these things.
She we have so many power banksaround our house.
You know, we got fake.
You fake, you're you're a goodfake out.
You know what?
We're gonna have a bunker, so Ineed to have all these devices.

Mike Gorday (39:19):
Where are you gonna put your bunker?
Uh in that in that shed outthere?

Nathan Mumm (39:23):
I have I I'm gonna buy three more containers.

Mike Gorday (39:25):
Okay, and I'll just I just bury them in the hill.

Nathan Mumm (39:28):
Yeah, that's exactly that's exactly right.
There you go.

Mike Gorday (39:30):
We need to we need to invent it.

Gwen Way (39:31):
I've got some YouTube videos for you.
Okay, all right.

Mike Gorday (39:34):
That'll work.
That'll keep us, that'll keepeverybody entertained while the
zombies are knocking out.
Yeah.

Nathan Mumm (39:42):
All right, so the real quick question now, Gwen,
that you where is this locatedagain?
And are you gonna buy a unit?

Gwen Way (39:49):
It says it's based out of Denver, Colorado.
It looks like it's probablyactually based out of Hong Kong.
But I'll be honest, I I alreadyuh went ahead and signed up for
one.
This looks like it's gonna be asolid offering.

Nathan Mumm (40:02):
All right, and where can you find it again
online?
Where do where do you go tofind it online?

Gwen Way (40:06):
You go to Kickstarter.com and search for
Power Cube Titan.

Nathan Mumm (40:11):
Okay.
There you go.
All right, well, uh, you knowwhat?
I I just actually during theshow, I just sent it to the
wife.
So we'll see if I get one ofthose for Christmas.
Uh according to theKickstarter.
It's gonna be it's gonna be hertime.
I believe them.

Mike Gorday (40:27):
That's what you did.
You say, Hey, buy this me buythis for me for Christmas, so I
don't have to look like I buyeverything off a Kickstarter.

Nathan Mumm (40:33):
Yeah, so do you have an update?
Oh, so we talked last monthabout the uh company that was
very sketchy.
So do you have any updates onthat Kickstarter that we kind of
talked about?

Gwen Way (40:41):
It got fully funded.
Okay.
Um, taking a look at it though,I'm still feeling really iffy
on it.
I I don't think it's actuallygoing to be a real product.
I don't think it's gonna bereleased.
There's a lot of controls thatthey're putting where they're
only accepting payment throughum PayPal.

Nathan Mumm (41:01):
Okay.

Gwen Way (41:02):
Uh and there are a lot of sites that are just kind of
sketchy for you.

Nathan Mumm (41:08):
You should be able to take a credit card because
kick uh all my Kickstarterstuff.
PayPal does take credit cards.
Well, I know, but it gets ittaken care of.
All right.
Well, Gwen, thank you so muchfor coming on the show.
It's always a pleasure to haveyou talk about new gadgets.
Now we're in the holidayseason, so we got we got
November and December, so we gotto get some good Christmas
gifts for Mr.
Mum here.
So I need to get some new uhitems for for items.

Gwen Way (41:31):
That's the plan, and we're gonna look off of
Kickstarter so that we can getsomething that you're guaranteed
to get.
Oh, I love that.

Nathan Mumm (41:37):
All right, okay, that ends our segment.
We want to thank Gwenway forbeing a part of the show.
She does a great job of findingthe most unique items each
month for our show.
And with that, now let's moveon to Mike's mesmerizing moment.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
Welcome to Mike's mesmerizing moment.
What does Mike have to saytoday?

Nathan Mumm (41:57):
All right, Mike, with the Halloween holiday
around the corner, what is yourfavorite technology item that
has made Halloween scarier foryou either this year or the last
couple years?

Mike Gorday (42:07):
AI that scares me every day.
Scares you every day.

Nathan Mumm (42:11):
Is there a technology that you've seen out
there, though, and in theHalloween stuff?

Mike Gorday (42:15):
I mean, I see you know, I like those ones that
project things onto your window.
Okay.
All right.

Nathan Mumm (42:23):
You know, like the the displays that have like the
ghosts and everything.
Yeah.

Mike Gorday (42:33):
I like those.
You like those?
Yeah, I like those.

Nathan Mumm (42:35):
Have you seen the um knockoff from the uh haunted
mansion in Disney where theyhave like the four guys singing?
No.
Projector.
Oh, I gotta show you a videoduring our break.
It's like the you you you buildthese little type of deals, the
same thing, projection, and youproject the guys that are
actually in the ride and theycan do their whole little
dialogue on that.

Mike Gorday (42:52):
That's pretty cool.
Yeah, I also like you knowgoing into Costco in July and
seeing all the all the newOctober stuff.
July.

Nathan Mumm (43:00):
Uh how about the new stuff that jumps at you?
I mean, they they some of theseinteractions.

Mike Gorday (43:03):
Some of them are pretty funny.

Nathan Mumm (43:04):
They are.
Yeah.
I liked them.
Okay.
See, technology is makingHalloween even more exciting for
everybody else.

Mike Gorday (43:11):
Yeah, I don't have any of those things, but you
know.

Nathan Mumm (43:14):
But all you gotta do is walk in Costco in July and
then you can try them out.

Mike Gorday (43:17):
Yeah, that's that's what I do.
I go into Costco in July justto see the Halloween
decorations.
And then, you know, on the 1stof August, I can go watch the
Christmas stuff coming rollingout.

Nathan Mumm (43:28):
Yeah, and then and then in January you can get the
uh summer uh in Januaryeverything's on the liquor
aisle.

Mike Gorday (43:34):
There you go.

Nathan Mumm (43:35):
Okay, thank you for that mesmerizing moment.
Up next, we have this verymesmerizing this weekend
technology.
So now would be a great time toenjoy a little whiskey on the
side, as we're gonna be doing soduring the break.
You're listening to Tech TimeRadio with Nathan Mumsey in a
few minutes.
Hey Mike.
Yeah, what's up?
Hey, so you know what?
We need people to start likingour uh social media pages.

Mike Gorday (43:55):
If you like our show, if you really like us, we
should use your support onpatreon.com.
Or is it Patreon?
I think it's Patreon.
Okay, Patreon.
If you really like us, you cansay I'm the English guy?
Patreon.com.
I I butcher the Englishlanguage?
You know you butcher theEnglish language.

Nathan Mumm (44:11):
Okay, so it's politics.

Mike Gorday (44:12):
It's patreon.com.
Patreon.com.
If you really like if youreally like our show, you can
subscribe to patreon.com andhelp us out.
Oh, and you can visit us onthat Facebook platform.
You know the one thatZuckerberg owns?
The one that we always bag on?

Nathan Mumm (44:25):
Yeah, you can we're on Facebook too.
Yeah, like us on Facebook.
Do you know what our Facebookpage is?
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At Tech Time Radio.
You know what?
There's a trend here.
It seems to be that there's atrend, and that's Tech Time
Radio.
Or you can even Instagram withus.
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Or you can find us on TikTok.
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Mike Gorday (44:47):
Like and subscribe to our social media.

Nathan Mumm (44:49):
Like us today.
We need you to like us.

Mike Gorday (44:51):
Like us and subscribe.

Nathan Mumm (44:52):
That's it.
That's it.
That's that simple.

Intro (44:56):
And now, let's look back at this week in technology.

Nathan Mumm (45:01):
All right, this week in technology, we go to
October 13th, 1983.
Cellular goes live in theUnited States.
Cellular?
Cellular goes live in theUnited States.
Ameritech Mobile Communicationsexecutive Bob Burnett makes a
phone call from a parked carnear Soldier Field in Chicago,
officially launching the firstcellular network in the United

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States.
Originally named AmeritechMobile Communications, it later
became known as AmeritechCellular, and then was sold to
GTE, which later became a partof Verizon Wireless.
Still in operation today.
Just think of that.
I was there.

Mike Gorday (45:38):
You were there talking about.
I remember that.
Do you remember those things?
Big huge brick with the bigwith the with the suitcase
battery.

Nathan Mumm (45:47):
And somehow they said that there was no cancer
related to those ever at all.
You know, I always found thatthe most interesting
conversation.
But they would say that.

Mike Gorday (45:55):
That's where do you think where do you think the
whole uh 5G thing comes from?

Nathan Mumm (46:00):
Oh, the 5G thing is some some somebody said that
the spectrums that's out therewas created and it and it causes
radio wavelengths.
Yeah, all the spectrums havebeen around forever.
There is no new spectrums.
They just reuse the data.
So never mind.
I go I go hours and hours underthat false code.

Mike Gorday (46:17):
It's it's all it's all crazy out there.
And you know, I can't even gohome and take Tylenol anymore.

Nathan Mumm (46:22):
That's all right.
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Intro (47:10):
The segment we've been waiting all week for.

Mike Gorday (47:19):
Had to dry your motorcycle.

Nathan Mumm (47:21):
Alright.
Okay.
I need some more whiskey here.
I'm already out, but tell us.

Marc Grégoire (47:26):
Well, before you didn't pour you should have
poured yourself.
I should have poured anotherbreak.
You can do it right now whilewe talk about today.
Today, October 14th.
You two are celebrating todayvery, very hard.
Odie and I will just be helpingyou celebrate.
So it's not national complaintabout AI Day.
No, Nathan did not join you onthat.
Oh.
It's not uh damn it.

Ody (47:47):
I thought I had something to do with age.

Marc Grégoire (47:49):
National be a be a billionaire.

Ody (47:51):
A little bit.
Oh, a little bit?

Marc Grégoire (47:53):
A little bit, but I'm not celebrating it, so
it's not truly just the age.
Okay.

Ody (47:57):
Right.
So I don't know.
What is it?
Kiss.

Marc Grégoire (48:00):
Be bald and be free day.

Ody (48:03):
Oh, wow.

Marc Grégoire (48:05):
Be bald and be free day?
Yeah.
So let us all celebrate todaywith Nathan and Mike.
Millions of people who areaffected by baldness, either due
to natural causes or medicaltreatment, which is why this day
is dedicated to the bald andthe beautiful.

Mike Gorday (48:21):
Mine's all due to AI, I think.

Nathan Mumm (48:24):
You can't blame everything on AI.

Mike Gorday (48:26):
I feel like I can.
I feel like I can do whatever Iwant this day in this day and
age.

Nathan Mumm (48:31):
Alright, so tell us more about today.
It's got to be a specialholiday for many great people
like Patrick.
Patrick Stewart.
Patrick Stewart.
I'm trying to think of allthese beautiful balls.
Cojack!

Ody (48:42):
Nobody shines as bright as you two on this video feed.
That's for sure.

Marc Grégoire (48:49):
Wow, that is great, Cody, because this is
what I have.

Mike Gorday (48:52):
God only made a few perfect heads and the rest he
covered with hair.

Marc Grégoire (48:56):
So as we honor those who embrace the shine,
remember they have something incommon with every wild turkey
that has ever met Thanksgivingdinner.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
Besides they all die?

Marc Grégoire (49:08):
No, they're all bald.
Oh, they're all bald.

Nathan Mumm (49:11):
Okay, you plug it and say, okay.
I thought you were saying thatwe all die.
That's a good thing.
We do that too.

Marc Grégoire (49:19):
We do that too.
Okay.
Which brings us to Wild TurkeyPrivate Barrel Program.
So let's talk about why this isa private barrel.

Mike Gorday (49:27):
It's better for bald guys.

Marc Grégoire (49:29):
Nope.
Each year, the Wild TurkeyDistill distillery meticulously
selects and releases only a fewhundred private barrel picks,
making them a true gem in theworld of whiskey.
These exclusive barrels arehandpicked by a member of the
Russell family, ensuring thateach one reflects the pinnacle
of Wild Turkey's craftsmanshipand heritage.
They are definitely a stepabove the standard shelf

(49:52):
offering.
Now let's talk about thisparticular bottle.

Nathan Mumm (49:56):
Which Russell, which Russell uh family member
picked this one?

Marc Grégoire (50:00):
I don't know which one.
It was either Jimmy, which isprobably not Jimmy.
Jimmy doesn't really pick himanymore.
Okay.
Um, so it's either it'sprobably his grandson, and why
am I blanking on his name?
Somebody put a comment in therereal quick.

Nathan Mumm (50:12):
Okay, there you go.
Okay.

Marc Grégoire (50:17):
Yes.
Now private select is wellmade, but ultimately this one
does not overwhelm me.
For its private barrel pricepoint, it does not stand above
other ryes in the same range,and it feels too expensive to
use as a cocktail base.
Being a low rye rye, thatsignature rye punch simply does

(50:38):
not come through, leaving ittasting closer to a good high
rye bourbon than a bold rye.
Not really a sipper, I wouldreach for often.
In truth, a standard 101 ryemay be a better option, more
versatile, and far easier tojustify the cost.
So with that said, my guess wasthat Nathan would probably like
this rye immensely, since thisdoesn't really taste like a rye.

(51:00):
And Mike might be a littlewishy-washy on it.
Hey!

Ody (51:05):
You are spot on with Nathan.

Mike Gorday (51:07):
Yeah, he's already.

Ody (51:08):
I think we have it on tape as well, with you saying, like,
wow, like this is a good thing.
This is good.
This is great.

Marc Grégoire (51:13):
It's the price that does it for him.

Ody (51:15):
No, how about the price?

Marc Grégoire (51:17):
30 bucks.
Well, that's the standardoffering.
This private select barrel was65.

Ody (51:21):
Yeah, and Mark just said that it's not worth the 65.
Am I wrong?

Mike Gorday (51:25):
No, you're correct.
No, Nathan, Nathan wouldbecause it's all about his price
point.

Ody (51:31):
65 is his price.

Mike Gorday (51:33):
No, 30 is his price point.

Nathan Mumm (51:34):
I'm curious.
I pay for 65 for this though.

Marc Grégoire (51:37):
Yeah, because you don't have good taste.
And you probably wouldn't beable to taste the difference
between this and the $30 bottle,so you might as well just buy
the $30 one.

Nathan Mumm (51:44):
Yeah.

Marc Grégoire (51:45):
How about that?

Nathan Mumm (51:46):
No, I don't know.
This is a kind of better taste.
I mean, I may actually want to.
It's the best one you've hadthis year.

Marc Grégoire (51:52):
Yeah.
You should go out and buy the$30 bottle and see.
Today, today was the the latestday that you've lived this
whole year.

Nathan Mumm (51:59):
Was that today is the best day ever?
Every day is the best day ever.
Okay.
Do you ever wake up and look atyourself in the mirror?

Ody (52:06):
Uh and think, damn, I'm good looking.
Exactly.
Wow.

Nathan Mumm (52:09):
Exactly.
That is the funny thing to bedone.

Mike Gorday (52:11):
You know, you know what?
I'm not even gonna answer thatquestion.
Alright.
Well, you know what?
I know what you have next toyour bed.
Uh a mirror?
Yeah, Stuart.
Okay.
All right.
You're smart enough and goodenough, and gosh darn it, people
like you.
That's right.
You know what?

Nathan Mumm (52:26):
Technology and whiskey, such a great pairing.
Like Reese's pieces andchocolate candies for Halloween.
Are you a Reese's pieces fan?

Mike Gorday (52:35):
You don't like Reese's pieces?
No, I love Reese's pieces.
That was just a bad pairing.
You should have said Reese'spieces and E.T.
That wouldn't make more sensethan Reese's pieces and
chocolate.
That would have been.

Ody (52:46):
Mike, when can we get you to do the pairing?

Nathan Mumm (52:49):
That's cut and paste.
Yeah.
Cut and paste.

Ody (52:51):
It's a golden one.

Mike Gorday (52:54):
After the apocalypse happened.
Alright.
You know what?
Let me know.
I'll do that.
Mark?

Nathan Mumm (53:00):
I love having you here.

Marc Grégoire (53:01):
Well, thank you.

Nathan Mumm (53:02):
You know what?
Now, let's prepare for ourtechnology fail of the week.

Mike Gorday (53:06):
Alright, let's do that.
I feel like I feel like thatwas a backhanded company.
Oh, here we go.
Congratulations.
You're a failure.

Ad (53:15):
Oh, I failed.
Did I?
Yes.
Did I?

Nathan Mumm (53:19):
Yes.
So I know this fits right upMark's alley.
You know what?
You're a pretty big Discorduser, right, Mark?
No.
All right.
Mike, are you a big Discorduser?

Mike Gorday (53:31):
Uh, I am not a big Discord user, but I I use it.
You use the site?
Okay.
I'm sure Odie have usedDiscord.

Ody (53:38):
Yeah, and recently, yeah, I have been using it more.
Guess what?

Mike Gorday (53:42):
They just stole all your information.

Ody (53:43):
Oh my goodness.
See?
I don't get a choice in it.
It's just every day.
You know, if you're gonna useit.
So if I'm gonna have a gain outof it, I'm going to do it.

Mike Gorday (53:52):
If you're gonna use it, if you use that defeatus
attitude, I think I would have afree television out of it too.
Okay.
All right.

Nathan Mumm (53:58):
Well, this week it comes, our technology failed
comes just from Discord, thesocial media site, all about the
Discord of causes.
Now, Discord says that it had abreach of 70,000 users that may
have included government IDs inthe breach.
Discord claims that theattackers are circulating
inaccurate information.
This is Discord claims theattackers are circulating

(54:19):
inaccurate information about thecustomer service provider's
breach as a part of extortionattempt.
Let me tell you, I still haveyet to see when somebody claims
online that they have data andthey post the data on the dark
web, any of these hackers beingwrong.
Now, these companies are like 0for 100 on their explanations
of what happened, but Discordsays that the hackers online

(54:42):
don't have the correctinformation.
Who do you believe?
The hackers, or do you believeuh Discord?

Mike Gorday (54:47):
Oh, totally Discord.
No, yeah, that's because youknow.

Nathan Mumm (54:50):
Okay, Mark, who do you believe?
Discord or the hackers?

Marc Grégoire (54:53):
Oh, I'm with Mike.
Totally the company that gothacked.

Nathan Mumm (54:56):
Okay, absolutely.

Marc Grégoire (54:57):
Okay, wait, wait, always say that yeah.

Nathan Mumm (55:01):
They're not gonna always up.
We can talk about gettinghacked.
That's all right.
Yeah, we can.
Discord has identifiedapproximately 70,000 users that
had their government ID photosexposed as part of the customer
service data breach announcedlast week.
According to a new Wexler,Discord has been extorted over a
breach from Zendesk's instanceby the group, claiming that it

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had 1.5 terabyte of ageverification related photos,
over 2 million photos breached.

Mike Gorday (55:27):
Oh, is that how you get on Discord when you're
underage?
Is by using your photo ID?

Nathan Mumm (55:32):
You have to put your photo ID in the code.
Oh, well, that was a smartchoice.
Well uh following last week'sannouncement about the security
incident involving a third-partycustomer service provider, we
want to address the inaccurateclaims circulating online.
This is what Discord posts out,which are being made by those
that are responsible.
First, as stated in our blogposts, this was not a breach of

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Discord, but rather athird-party service we use to
support our customer serviceefforts.
Now, here's my question.
Because we've actually, Mark,me and you worked at an MSP
before.
We did.
So is it now at the point whereif we use a service that is
breached, the core company canshake responsibility and say

(56:17):
it's not their fault?
I want to ask you thatquestion.
Isn't that what they do anyway?
Well, this is this is nowstarting to become a trend.
It's it's happening.
They this happened really a lotwith um the last two large
breaches.
So you have uh breach, oh,what's the CRM company that was
breached?

Marc Grégoire (56:37):
So Discord's saying it's not their fault
because Zendesk is what washacked, even though they use
Zendesk and it got into theDiscord server.
Correct.

Nathan Mumm (56:44):
Yes.
Yeah, that that's uh so so isare are we able to now start
blaming third parties?

Mike Gorday (56:50):
We blame everybody for everything anyway, so why
not?

Marc Grégoire (56:53):
It is the third party's fault.
There's no doubt about that.
It was a flaw in theirsoftware.
Okay, yeah, but it's alsoDiscord's fault.
Does that mean you can't holdDiscord responsible?
That's a tough one because ifI'm using a tool and and I get
hacked.

Nathan Mumm (57:10):
So Salesforce.
Salesforce was what the bighack that happened, and so
everybody blamed Salesforce, nottheir CRM stuff, but Salesforce
for the large hack thathappens.
And that was actually kind ofpublicized enough that people
said, Oh, okay, well, I guessit's more Salesforce Salesforce.

Marc Grégoire (57:27):
Right, because me as a company that's using
Salesforce, there is no way Ican protect against it.
Nothing more besides usinganother CRM.

unknown (57:35):
Okay.

Mike Gorday (57:35):
Yeah, but this is this is the problem is are we
off-shifting blame or are wesetting up a shifting blame
situation?
If I'm if I'm a company and Iwant to run some sort of
technology and I hire a thirdparty to do it for me, and they
get hacked, so the informationin my database gets from them,

(57:56):
who am I held to anyaccountability at all?

Nathan Mumm (57:59):
Well, that's what's happening now.
That's what I'm gonna ask.
So it looks like Discord issaying, you know what, it's not
our fault, it's Zendesk's fault,so don't yell at us.
Uh we just use Zendesk.

Mike Gorday (58:09):
If you ever read Discord chats, you know they're
doing exactly what gamers aredoing.
So what's that?
They're yelling about stuffthat is happening without taking
accountability.

Nathan Mumm (58:21):
Yeah, no, no, no, okay.
Yeah, so Discord is all aboutjust kind of I mean, it's just
kind of like the Reddit versionof I want to shout and yell at
people, in my opinion, butthat's okay.

Mike Gorday (58:28):
Oh, it is.
It's just uh Discord is a bunchof trash.

Nathan Mumm (58:31):
But that's it's called Discord for purpose.
It's called Discord costs.

Mike Gorday (58:35):
Very apt name for for something because nobody's
happy on Discord.

Nathan Mumm (58:39):
All right, so back goes to it.
Are you as a company now ableto blame your third party you
use?

Marc Grégoire (58:45):
Yeah.
Okay.
I mean, it is the thirdparties.
Of course, you that's theirfault.
Does that mean that companyshould wash their hands and say
we have nothing to do and we'renot going to do anything more?
No.
It's still their customers thatgot hacked.
Okay.
And so you still need to stepup and take some responsibility,
but it's ultimately there'snothing.

Nathan Mumm (59:04):
So if you're a CEO of a company and you decide to
outsource everything to allthird parties, then if your
company gets breached, you allyou can all you have to do is
then just point finger, pointfinger, point finger and say
it's never me that gets takencare of.
All right.

Mike Gorday (59:18):
Well you don't even need to send us survivors that.

Nathan Mumm (59:20):
All right, let's remove right now.
You know what?
Let's move on now to our pickof the day whiskey tasting.

Intro (59:26):
And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop.

Marc Grégoire (59:33):
So I have to address something real quick
before I get skewered online.
Oh.
Because I couldn't, I blankedon the Russell's names of ours,
and they are just like iconic inthe industry, but it came to me
as you were talking.
So it's Eddie and Bruce.
Let's move on.
Yeah, we're just gonna.
We know you're a thumbs up.
I'm curious of what Mike endedup with.
He's probably a thumbs up attentative.

(59:55):
That's my guess.
Uh yeah, that would be exactlyright.
I suspect.
It's good whiskey.

Mike Gorday (01:00:01):
It's okay, but you know, it's it's good enough to
have a thumbs up, but it's notthe best whiskey I've had all
year.
Mike, we're about out of time.

Nathan Mumm (01:00:09):
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respond to those questions.
Say hello to Odie.
And remember, the science oftomorrow starts with the
technology of today.
We'll see you next week.
Later.
Bye-bye.

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