All Episodes

Apple finally blinks. We break down the rumored touchscreen MacBook Pro on M6 silicon and what it means for the Mac–iPad divide, creative workflows, and the future of touch-first productivity without giving up a real keyboard and trackpad. If Apple embraces touch on macOS, does the iPad’s role shrink, or do we enter a new era of flexible, two-in-one computing?

Streaming also sheds a skin as Apple TV drops the “Plus” while raising prices. We talk about what a name change signals, how the industry is normalizing higher monthly fees, and why subscriber rotation is your smartest money move. Then we put on a headset and test Meta’s Horizon TV app—turning a $399 Quest and a $1 download into a wraparound home theater. It’s shockingly good for travel, apartments, and late-night bingeing, even with some missing apps.

Security stays front and center with a meticulous loyalty email phish that threads through a legitimate address, a Zendesk excuse, a call center handoff, and a final push for remote access. We slow it down, show you every red flag, and share simple rules that stop sophisticated cons. We also look at the PayPal and Venmo outage overlap and why a backup payment rail should be part of your daily toolkit. And we spotlight a Florida “Tech Fairy” who refurbishes laptops and gives them away—proof that practical innovation often starts at home.

Along the way, we sip Jack Daniel’s Old No. 7 from 1972 versus today’s bottle, compare notes, and talk about what changed in the glass. If you enjoyed this one, tap follow, share it with a friend who loves tech and whiskey, and drop a review to help more curious listeners find the show.

Support the show

Mark as Played
Transcript

Episode Transcript

Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Announcement (00:00):
Broadcasting across the nation from the East
Coast to the West, keeping youup to date on technology while
enjoying a little whiskey on theside with leading edge topics,
along with special guests, tonavigate technology in a
segmented, stylized radioprogram.
The information that will makeyou go, hmm.
Pull up a seat, raise a glasswith our hosts as we spend the

(00:22):
next hour talking abouttechnology for the common
person.
Welcome to Tech Time Radio withNathan Mum.

Nathan Mumm (00:31):
Welcome to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mum, the
show that makes you go, hmm,Technology News of the Week, the
show for the everyday persontalking about technology,
broadcasting across the nationwith insightful segments on
subjects weeks ahead of themainstream media.
We welcome our radio audienceof 35 million listeners to an
hour of insightful technologynews.
I'm your host, Nathan Mum, withover 30 plus years of

(00:52):
technology expertise.
Our co-host Mike Roday.
Here is our award-winningauthor, a human behavior expert,
and he is also bald andbeautiful.
If you were here on lastweek.tv, Facebook, LinkedIn,

(01:31):
Kick and Rumble.
We encourage you to visit usonline at techtimeradio.com, see
our new faster site, and becomea Patreon supporter at
patreon.com forward slashtechtime radio.
We're all friends fromdifferent backgrounds.
We bring the best technologyshow possible weekly for our
family, friends, and fans toenjoy.
We're glad to have Odie, ourproducer, at the control panel
today.
Welcome everyone.

(01:52):
Let's start today's show.

Announcement (01:56):
Now on today's show.

Nathan Mumm (02:00):
All right, today on the show we have, of course,
our letter segment, the funnyyet informative reading of
emails that I received or thatwere submitted to me during the
week.
This includes scam, fishingemails, text scams, and all out
missed truths.
In addition, we have ourstandard features, including
Mike's mesmerizing moment,technology failed the week, and
a Nathan Nugget.
We may even get two of thosein.
And of course, our pick of theday, whiskey taste in the CFR.

(02:23):
Selected whiskey pick.
It's zero, one or two thumbs upby the end of the show.
I'm looking at our whiskey.
We have two bottles, whichisn't bad, but it's not a
testing day.
So I am very confused on whatMark has for.

Mike Gorday (02:33):
I don't know what Mark is doing.

Nathan Mumm (02:34):
You don't know what Mark's doing?
I don't either.
All right.
Well, but now let's hopefullyhave great whiskey and get ready
for the latest headlines in theworld of technology.

Announcement (02:45):
Here are our top technology stories of the week.

Nathan Mumm (02:49):
All right, this is a big earth-shaking news story.
Apple's M6 MacBook Pro isreportedly going to be offering
a touch screen.
They're going to get into thebusiness that Microsoft Surfaces
has dominated over the last 10years to come up with a touch
screen.
Let's go to what's that?
Go ahead.
I was going to say, do you wantto hear what Lisa Walker has

(03:11):
first, or what do you have?
Yeah, let's listen to Lisa.
Okay, let's see what Lisa has.

Announcement (03:16):
Apple insiders are pointing to a tactile new
future for the company'slaptops.
Apple will incorporate touchscreens into MacBooks sometime
in the next few years, furtherblurring the line with the iPad.
The touchscreen approach for aMacBook Pro is currently
projected for release in late2026 or early 2027.

(03:37):
Apple's touchscreen laptops areinternally known as K114 and
K116 and will run on M6 chips.
Apple just introduced the M5generation of its silicon for
this year's iteration of theMacBook Pro and iPad Pro, but
some might bypass this upgradefor the M6 chips the following

(03:58):
year.
Back to you guys in the studio.

Nathan Mumm (04:02):
Alright, so what do you think about this?
This is a big deal.

Mike Gorday (04:05):
I I thought Apple was never, ever, never, never,
never, ever going to do touchscreen.

Nathan Mumm (04:10):
That's what they said.
Steve Jobs is just rolling overin his grave right now.

Mike Gorday (04:14):
They've been talking to Microsoft out of
there.

Nathan Mumm (04:16):
I don't I don't think.

Mike Gorday (04:17):
They're like, hey, we're gonna if if you guys are
gonna not support Windows 10anymore, we're gonna do touch
screen.

Nathan Mumm (04:23):
We're gonna do this.
So the laptops will still havea trackpad and keyboard uh for
non-touch control.
So it's just gonna be like yourserver.
You have a surface in front ofyou.
You have a keyboard, you have amouse.
Yes, I love this and the touchscreen.
Now the MacBooks Pro cameraalso is going to move to above
the screen.
Right now they have itintegrated in the screen, which
is always kind of the weirdestthing ever, but it's kind of

(04:44):
their little um so they'rebasically copying the surface,
huh?

Mike Gorday (04:48):
Yeah, they are.

Nathan Mumm (04:49):
They're basically gonna copy.
So this is it.
They've kept those audiencesseparate.
So if I wanted to have atouchpad, I mean I have an iPad
right here, right in front of mein the studio.
If I want to use touch typestuff, I have to use a touchpad.
If I want to use my Mac laptop,which I have in front of me
right now with my tech timeradio stickers on and
everything, I have to use itwithout touch.
Now they're gonna blur thethey're gonna blur the line.

(05:10):
That's right.
I you know what?
I think this destroys the iPadmarket.
I think this will end updestroying the iPad market.
I think everybody will getlaptops.
I think they're gonna getlaptops that can then flip over
upside down and so that I couldactually have the they make the
yogas and a bunch of devicesthat do this now.

Mike Gorday (05:31):
Oh, okay.
But is it app is it is reallyit really you think it will be?
I really do.
The iPad is still a cheaperversion of the Mac.

Nathan Mumm (05:40):
But if I can just spend another $400 more, get a
laptop, and I can just fold overthe top when I want to use the
touchpad, yeah.

Mike Gorday (05:48):
You know, I'm not a huge Apple guy, but can't you
buy a keyboard for your iPad?

Nathan Mumm (05:52):
Um well, I can buy I can buy a keyboard, I can buy
a Bluetooth keyboard for my iPadright now, but it doesn't feel
the same as the built-inkeyboards.
So I this this layout righthere that I I love, if I hadn't
I had touch, I could just scrollup and down.
Well, I don't need anythingelse.

Mike Gorday (06:07):
I I think you know you should stay away from Apple
and just get a surface becausethat's cooler.
Uh I have a surface too,though, but okay, yeah.
Okay.

Nathan Mumm (06:15):
All right.
Well Okay, whatever.
We're gonna see if they canboth coexist.
Let's see, Odie over there.
Odie, Odie, the Odie is she hasno comments on this, but she
probably will have comments onstory number two.
What do you have for storynumber two here, Mike?
We're gonna talk about Appleagain.
Okay.

Mike Gorday (06:31):
They're leading the wave of minus pluses.
Okay.
What?
The the wave the wave of minuspluses.
Okay, explain what that way.
Do you remember back in whendid we start this thing?
Uh uh, we're on year six rightnow.
Okay.
Do you remember remember backwhen uh Hulu added plus to their
name?
They did.
And then everybody startedadding plus to their name.

(06:53):
Yep.

Nathan Mumm (06:54):
And you made a couple jokes about it.

Mike Gorday (06:56):
Oh, yeah.
This is funny because westarted talking about everybody
adding plus, and they startedadding pluses to everything.
So now we have plus plus plus.

Nathan Mumm (07:05):
Yep.

Mike Gorday (07:05):
Well, I guess Apple got tired of that because Apple
TV Plus is getting rid of theirplus.
Okay, so is it Apple TV Plusminus minus?
Or Apple it's Apple, it's AppleTV minus the plus.
Okay.
So just Apple TV then, yeah.
It's gonna be just Apple TVagain.

unknown (07:24):
Okay.

Mike Gorday (07:24):
Because the plus is being minused.
All right, okay.
Okay.
Last week, Apple quietlyrebranded its streaming service
in a press release announcingits streaming plans for the
Blockbuster F1, the movie.
Okay.
They dropped the plus.
And guess what they did too?
What else?
They hiked the price.
Oh, okay.
Well, uh, you know, everybody'sbeen up to upgrading their

(07:46):
prices.
Yeah, everybody's like let'sraise it 10%.
Yeah, the greed bandwagon.
Yeah.
Apple Plus TV is now simplyApple TV with a vibrant new
identity.
Oh, okay.
Because, you know, that's whathappens when you minus your
plus.
Okay.
Uh though as of press time, theplus branding still appears on

(08:08):
the platform's website and app.
It hasn't quite reached out allto the public yet.
Okay.
The rebrand comes just weeksafter the streaming service
raised its subscription fee by30%.
By 30%?
Yep, 999 to 1299.
And the pricing went intoeffect on August the 21st.
Uh, in announcing the hike,people or Apple noted that Apple

(08:32):
TV Not Plus remains the onlymajor streaming service without
a lower cost ad-supported tier.
I guess they're, you know, onthat sort of thing that, like,
hey, we're not going to enticeyou in with all these
commercials.
Okay.
It's also cited as deeplibrary.
Quote unquote deep library.
Yeah.
Justification for the increase.

(08:53):
Deep library.
I don't have Apple TV, so Itheir deep library is deep
library, yes.

Nathan Mumm (09:01):
I guess that's if you know if you're burying
somebody in the ground and thedifference between four feet
underneath or six feetunderneath, is four feet still
considered deep?

Mike Gorday (09:09):
No.

Nathan Mumm (09:09):
No.
I don't I don't even know whatyou're talking about.
But it's it's like theHalloween time, don't you?
Like graves.

Mike Gorday (09:16):
I don't go out.
No, I don't go out and diggraves.
No, on Halloween.

Nathan Mumm (09:20):
Is that what you do?
Uh uh.

Mike Gorday (09:21):
You go out and hang out in graveyards and look at
look at look at how how thosewere created.
I fight zombies.
I fight zombies down at thelocal uh uh you could just walk
out your door now a day andfight a zombie.
You think so?
Yeah, that's only if you're indowntown Seattle.
No.
No, no, no.
I almost got run off the roadby a zombie this morning because

(09:43):
they were so busy looking attheir phone, they were
completely oblivious to what wasgoing on.

Marc Grégoire (09:48):
All right.

Mike Gorday (09:48):
So, yeah, here we go.
Apple has minus their plus, andI bet you money, we're gonna
see a bunch of other peopleminusing their pluses.

Nathan Mumm (09:57):
You think Disney Plus just becomes like Disney
TV?

Mike Gorday (10:00):
Yeah, I think I think they'll probably Because
they're buying Hulu.
Hulu's shutting down next year.

Nathan Mumm (10:04):
They they they bought Hulu.
Yep, and Hulu's gonna shut downand become Disney.
So they're just gonna call itDisney TV.

Mike Gorday (10:11):
Okay.
You know, I think I think thisridiculousness with all these
pluses is is going to go awaynow.
It's gonna go away.
Okay.
That will be my prediction forour prediction.

Nathan Mumm (10:21):
So I wouldn't take that prediction.
I'd say I agree with you too.
I think that what when once onetrend happens.
Did you know that the meta theyhad like their um goggles that
they have, right?
And so those come on out withlike the meta plus two, what was
what they're doing for theirgoggles.
They removed that.
Now they're just the meta uhthe meta two?
Yeah, it's just meta two, metathree.
They got rid of all their plusbranding too.

(10:43):
So I think maybe the theanti-plus sign is happening now.

Mike Gorday (10:47):
Maybe they just figured out how ridiculous it
all was.
All right.
Well, we're staying on thesubject of TV.
Didn't you rename your thewebsite Tech Tech Time Radio
Plus?
I did not.
I did not add the Tech TimeRadio Plus.
Okay, well you can contact meat MikeGordet.com.

Nathan Mumm (11:04):
That's perfect.
All right, story number three.
Staying on television.
Mark Zuckerberg's dream ofreplacing your TV with a one
dollar app just became realinside your headset.
So now we're gonna be talkingabout it.
So okay.
I actually loaded this.
This is amazing.
This is I I will never need tobuy a television again.
This essentially gives you alike 90-inch television because

(11:27):
it goes on your meta questheadset.
So let's talk about this.
There's a new app, it's calledHorizon TV app.
It unveiled at the MetaConnectuh event that Meta had.
It transforms the MetaQuestheadsight into headset into a
full-blown entertainment hub.
Think of big splashythumbnails, rules of app icons,

(11:49):
created content.
It makes your smart TVexperience re-imagined in the
virtual reality world.
It just puts up a TV.
So you're in your reality worldand it just puts a TV on your
screen, and then you can go fullscreen, so it goes all the way
around and it wraps around you.
For IMAX movies and stuff likethat, there are built for this
wraparound.
It is amazing.
The quality is full HD and it'syour whole screen.

(12:12):
So I mean, if I can't seeanything right now, I would need
to have probably a 300-inchtelevision, right?

Mike Gorday (12:18):
Oh, my guy that almost ran me over today because
you were looking at your TV inmeta quest.

Nathan Mumm (12:24):
Well, yeah, it's interesting because this is not
just a text flex.
Horizon TV is meta's latestmove to lure non-gaming audience
back into this is $399.
Okay.
I can get a movie like JamesCameron's partnership with this.
I I all this for one dollar.

Mike Gorday (12:38):
I feel like this is a something really stupid that
should have been first.

Nathan Mumm (12:43):
It should have been.
It absolutely should have been.

Mike Gorday (12:45):
Why didn't they add TV to your virtual reality?
And uh by the way, yeah, it'svirtual reality, not reality.

Nathan Mumm (12:52):
Okay, it is virtual reality.
VR.
It is it is VR or AR, dependingon how you want to augment into
reality or virtual reality.
Right?
So this headset goes on.
It's a one dollar app.
Uh it looks and interacts likea television.
You know what?
This now makes me maybe changemy mind.
Last week I said I wanted thatfree TV for 500 bucks.

Mike Gorday (13:11):
Oh, well, that guy for that guy's just he just got
shunted out of the hole.
If I can only have a one dollarapp, I think this is it.
See, meta just came along andstole all your ideas and all
your data.

Nathan Mumm (13:23):
I can watch Amazon Rings of Power.
Uh it has Pluto, Peacock,YouTube, Spotify, Dazz, and I
think.
What do you do about the wholesweaty face thing?
Uh what do you mean?
The sweaty face of New Orleans.

Mike Gorday (13:36):
Yeah, when you wear when you wear those things for
too long, your face gets wet.

Marc Grégoire (13:39):
Yeah, I guess I I don't know.

Nathan Mumm (13:40):
I have not to take it off when you go to the
bathroom.
But just think of traveling.
If I travel on a plane, I putone of these bad boys on.
I don't have to see anybodyaround me, and I could be
watching full sports 360, allaround.
I could look left and right andsee Aaron Rodgers throwing a
pass and yelling at his sidelinemembers.
I mean, all of it.
Now, there are some big gapsthough.
Disney Plus, uh, which willsoon be Disney, and ESPN are on

(14:04):
the way, but they do not haveNetflix, Hulu, which you don't
need Hulu anymore becausethey're going and being bought
by Disney, and HBO are not inthe mix.
Neither is Tubi or the Rokuchannel, but they say that these
are coming on their way.
So let me ask you this $399 fora headset, virtual reality, one
dollar for an app, and you getyourself a 200 plus inch

(14:26):
television.
Is that worth the price?
Would you do that, Mike?

Mike Gorday (14:29):
Not not for me.

Nathan Mumm (14:30):
You wouldn't do that?
No.

Mike Gorday (14:32):
All right.
Well, I think I I think itcould be there.
Well, you know, I I this I havea I have less problems with
this.
Yeah.
Than I do with the otherreasons to buy virtual reality
crap, like, you know, meta'swhole virtual reality, re realty
world and and whatnot.
Okay.
All right.
Well, the what is that?

(14:52):
What is that game?
Second life?

Nathan Mumm (14:54):
Second life, uh, yeah, there's a whole bunch of
those.
And Eve, and there's a bunch ofother games that you can do
your Eve is science fiction,that's pretty cool.

Mike Gorday (15:01):
Oh, is that Eve the science fiction one?
Yeah, Eve is Eve is a wholescience fiction.

Nathan Mumm (15:05):
Well, you can play Fallout now on these VR units.
Just think about being in theFallout world.
That would be that would be allright.
Yeah, there you go.
All right, well, guess what?
That ends our top technologystories of the week.
Next, we're gonna dive into ourletter segment, but first we're
gonna need to take a commercialbreak.
We're gonna head out at 88miles per hour until our next
segment comes back up.
We'll catch you after thisbreak.

AD (15:27):
Looking for custom glass solutions for your next
commercial project?
Hearttongue Glass Industries isyour trusted partner in custom
glass fabrication.
For over 100 years, Heartonguehas delivered proven
manufacturing expertise,comprehensive product offerings,
and dependable service andquality.
From energy-efficient facadesto custom shower doors, we

(15:51):
create glass solutions tailoredto your project needs.
With eight facilities acrossthe U.S.
and Canada, we combine nationalexpertise with a local
touch-insuring faster serviceand unparalleled customer care.
Hardton Glass Industries, wherequality meets innovation.
Visit Hardtoneglass.com tolearn more.

Nathan Mumm (16:17):
Welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mum.
Our weekly show covers the toptechnology subjects without any
political agenda.
We verify the facts, we do itwith a sense of humor in less
than 60 minutes, and of course,a little whiskey on the side.
Today, Mark Gregoire, ourwhiskey connoisseur, is in the
studio.
It's always a great day whenhe's here visiting us.
Now, what?
Oh, look at that.
Back to the bourbon shirt.
That's you know what?

(16:37):
I think he's got some commentson that.
Of all the things that we'vehad, I think that's maybe the
few comments we get on thewebsite.
So tell us, what are we doingwith our bourbon today?

Mike Gorday (16:46):
Why do we have two glasses in front of us?
Both of them taste pretty good.

Marc Grégoire (16:50):
We are drinking Jack Daniels Old No.
7, the black label.
Okay.
And why is there two?
Yeah.
One of them is from 1972, andone of them is from today.

Nathan Mumm (17:11):
I can I can actually pick out, I believe,
which one is which.
Alright.
Okay, Nathan the palette guyhas it figured out already.

Marc Grégoire (17:17):
Well, let me tell you what Jack Daniels talks
about there all the time.

Nathan Mumm (17:20):
No, I just know old whiskey because I keep it
around forever, so I knowthere's a different taste.

Marc Grégoire (17:24):
From Jack Daniels' website, mellowed drop
by drop through ten feet ofsugar maple charcoal, then
matured in handcrafted barrels.
Our Tennessee whiskey doesn'tfollow a calendar.
It only it's only ready whenour tasters say it is.
We judge it by the way itlooks, by its aroma, and of
course by the way it tastes.
It's how Jack Daniels himselfdid it over a century ago, and

(17:47):
how we still do it today.
Vanilla caramel and almond withwell-rounded barrel notes.
Now, this is from the BrownForeman uh company.
Now I believe in 1972, I didn'thave a chance to double check
that, but I don't believe it wasowned by Brown Foreman.
Not 100% sure.
But regardless, both weredistilled at the Jack Daniels
distillery in Lynchburg,Tennessee.

(18:09):
This is classified as aTennessee whiskey, which of
course is a subset of bourbon.
Its age is undisclosed.
Now here's where some of thedifferences is.
The one from 1972, they used todo it at 90 proof, while
today's Jack Daniels is at 80proof.
Oh.

The mash bill is the same (18:26):
80% corn, 12% malted barley, 8% rye.
If you buy a Jack Danielsbottle today, it'll cost you
about 23 bucks.
This bottle back then was aboutfive bucks.

Nathan Mumm (18:40):
Now, how did you come across a 1972 bottle?

Marc Grégoire (18:43):
Uh, my dad's closet.
Okay, okay.
It was a gift.
Uh, he had a few bottles fromway back when when he used to uh
when he was working at the bankand there are gifts from
people, and he's not a bigwhiskey drinker, and so I raided
the closet.
All right, okay.
And so I just opened this up uhthis past summer.
Had a uh whiskey Chris and hisdad came over.

Nathan Mumm (19:05):
Could could they tell which one was which?

Marc Grégoire (19:07):
We didn't we didn't do a quite a
side-by-side.
Side-by-side.

Nathan Mumm (19:10):
Did they did they like it?
Did they think it was good?

Marc Grégoire (19:12):
Oh, they loved it.
Oh, they loved it.
They loved it.
They loved it.
And they said that we I don'twant to spoil everything, but we
all wish the Jack Janiels ofyesterday could be today.

Mike Gorday (19:24):
Oh, okay.
So the additional ten proof.
So you're saying one more timethat the old ways are better
than the new ways?
Back to the bourbon.
Dun dun dun.
Dun dun dun.

Nathan Mumm (19:35):
Well, I see one of them has kind of a flat taste,
in my opinion.
One of them has a vibranttaste.
So now I'm really with the flatflat the flat taste would in my
mind would be the older agedwhiskey.
But maybe not.
Okay.
So one has a really nice one'sgot a no burn really to it, and

(19:57):
the other one does.
Um I'm just gonna taste the onethat I like, that's what I'll
say.
All right.
Okay, Mark.

Marc Grégoire (20:04):
Well, don't forget to like and subscribe,
give us a comment, and as you'redrinking, drink responsibly.
Heaven can wait.

Nathan Mumm (20:10):
Now, are the bottles worth anything if you
cli uh for like collector'sitems?
If they're older bottles, Mark?

Marc Grégoire (20:16):
The old bottles, yeah, they do sell those on
eBay.
Now, if it's if I had sold itwith the juice in it sealed,
yeah, that that that's worthquite a bit.
That's worth quite a bit.
Okay.
Not a huge amount for a JackDaniels because there's a lot of
those floating around.
Okay.

Mike Gorday (20:30):
So you drink a lot of old whiskey.

Nathan Mumm (20:33):
Uh well, I so it happens.
Like, I mean, look at my shelfthere.
So I buy whiskey.
And then you don't sits there.

Mike Gorday (20:38):
But is is is that why you don't like wine?
Because you wait so long that'sturned to vinegar?

Nathan Mumm (20:43):
Uh yeah.
You know what?
I you know what?
It it's really funny because mygo-to drink is like a gin and
tonic.
So isn't that just like totallyeverything different than
whiskey?
Anything?
I mean, if I'm just sippingaround watching a sports game.

Marc Grégoire (20:57):
It's a gin and tonic.
All right.

Nathan Mumm (20:58):
Well.
You know what?
I'm sure we're gonna have agreat time figuring out what the
special day is today, and ofcourse, our uh Jack Daniels.
Now, with our whiskey tastingcompleted, let's move on to our
feature segment.
Today we bring back the funnyyet informative reading of
emails that I received duringthe week.
This includes scam, phishingemails, texting scams, and all
out missed truce discussed aslegitimate emails in a segment

(21:21):
we call letters.

Mike Gorday (21:36):
All right, okay.

Nathan Mumm (21:37):
All right, Odie, Odie's passing, so we're gonna
start with Mark.
Mark, you're gonna start us.
This is kind of a long, this isa long built-up uh scam here
that happens.
So take a look at it.

Marc Grégoire (21:51):
I'm gonna give you the overview because uh this
one I am very this I lookthrough this one and nothing
jumps out as me as a scam.
So it says it's from Marriott,yeah, and you look at the from
and it's at Marriott.com, whichlooks valid.
Yep.
Hello, Mr.
Mom.
Basically, they're saying thatyou have a free nights award and
it will expire after a year.
You're getting close toexpiration, and please use it.

(22:13):
Okay.
Um, it's got the Marriott logoand the and the signature, and
there's a few web links in here,and they all look like they
actually go to the Marriott'scorrect links.
So that does.

Nathan Mumm (22:23):
So so this so I think so.
I think uh here's whathappened.
I think Marriott actually uhindividual users at this program
got compromised.
Because this email does lookcorrect, but isn't there a look
down for the contactinformation?
What's it say for the contactinformation?

Marc Grégoire (22:38):
Melissa A.
Marriott Envoy Customer Care.

Nathan Mumm (22:43):
Okay, so I sent that person an email.
So I think she was hijacked orsomebody was in her machine that
was running her machine itself.
Because what happens is Iresponded, looks really good,
right?
They're telling me I need touse up my free day, I need to
have everything taken care of.
I responded so all right, thankyou very much.
Is there anything else I needto do?
I do not see it on my profilebecause I use a lot of these
points.

(23:03):
I don't see it on my profilelisted anywhere.
So immediately I get a responseback that says, I have now
forwarded it over to our helpdesk services, and it went to a
Zen Desk email account.
So it was like someone was inher email, in her box, it said,
Here's what you need to do tocontact us.
So now I I I follow this.

(23:23):
I I'm a hook and ladder ofgoing what needs to be taken
care of.
So I click on the Zen Desk uhtype video, it opens up, and all
of a sudden it says, We'rehaving problems with our Zen
Desk system.
Now that that sometimes happenstoo.
So that's not a red alertimmediately.
Um, it says, please contact us.
So now I contact them, andhere's where everything starts

(23:44):
going a little awry.
When you start calling peoplefor support, or if you reach out
to them and you hear a callcenter in the background, that
is my first warning sign thatyou know what?
I think that I need to becareful of what I'm doing.
Well, he said, sorry, sir, wedon't have access to our
systems, our systems are downright now.
That's why you we had to reachout to you this way.

(24:05):
Here's what we're gonna dowe're gonna contact you when our
system is up and running.
Again, no real big warningshere.
This is all like, okay, this islegit.
They're having problems ontheir system.
Once our system's back up andworking, we'll let you know.
I give them my full phonenumber.
Full phone number, everything,because you know, it's a free
night.
I'm I'm a thrifty guy.

Marc Grégoire (24:22):
I was gonna say normally I would have just saw
this, logged in my account,whatever, and deleted it, moved
on with life, but not Nathan.
Nathan wants a freebie.
I want my free night.
I want my you know, I want tokeep going, Nathan.

Nathan Mumm (24:33):
So then all of a sudden, I get a call that comes
on in, and my phone picks it upas a scam, likely.
And I'm like, oh, that's kindof interesting.
So they introduce themselvesand they say that they're
calling back on this and thatthey're sorry that they have
problems.
And this is the key where I'mlike, what the heck is going on
here?
You know what?
Since we're having problems,let us send you an access code

(24:54):
so we can remote into yourcomputer to take a look and see
why this is important.
Oh bingo, bingo.
So everything was fine untilthey wanted to get remote
access.
I uh they should just tell meit's backup.
You can go and click on ithere.
Here's your login.
So somehow during all thiscommunication, whether it was
from the Marriott individualthemselves that was compromised,

(25:17):
whether it was the Zendeskinstallation that was
compromised, somehow.
What you're saying was this wasa very well done scam.
Very well done.
And only at that point did Iactually hang up, say that this
probably my phone said it wasscam likely.
Anytime I hear a call centerwhen I reach out to somebody,
that puts up my red alert to becareful of what's going on.

(25:39):
As soon as they then ask forcomplete control of my machine
so they can help me out.
That's totally what I wouldgive them.
Then I call the beekeeper.
So then, yeah, that's right.
So then all of a sudden I saidno.
I closed it down.
I then went and took a look atmy account.
So they may have actually beendown.
I take a look at my account thefollowing day, and my uh day

(25:59):
was back in there, everythingwas fine, like it hasn't even
been touched, and I didn't givethese people access to my
computer.

Marc Grégoire (26:06):
So you actually had a free day that wasn't
showing up for a while, and thenit actually came back into your
system.
That's correct.
Wow.

Nathan Mumm (26:14):
So now either they didn't have it in their system
and they re-added it, or thiswas scammed.

Marc Grégoire (26:20):
I I don't know exactly how it put together, but
that was my guess is that theMelissa A from Marriott was
hacked.
We've seen that a few timeswith uh companies that we work
with, and what those hackers dois they log in and they create a
special rule.
So they probably created a ruleon the subject line that then
goes to a folder that a userdoesn't notice, and then that's

(26:41):
how they communicate back andforth while the person's still
doing their email.

Nathan Mumm (26:44):
And so it's still and it still seems legit, right?
So they still seem like they'reactively working on my email's
slow.
That's exactly what I believehacked.

Marc Grégoire (26:52):
You've been hacked or look at always look at
your rules in in your youremail application.
Yeah.
If anything's been ever addedin there.

Mike Gorday (27:00):
I got I got the reverse.
What's that?
I got I got these reallystrange emails from a medical
company that said I had areimbursement and I needed to
log into their link.
Yeah.
And you know, I don't I don'tclick on sh stuff.
You don't got your hat on.

Nathan Mumm (27:15):
That's right.

Mike Gorday (27:15):
You don't click on so I ignored it and I ignored
it.
I ignored it for three weeksand I got a check in the mail.

Nathan Mumm (27:21):
Wow.

Mike Gorday (27:22):
So you still got the check in the mail?
I yeah, I got a I actually hada uh reimbursement and uh they
were doing the scammer stuff bysending me text messages and
emails that said, hey, click onthis link.

Nathan Mumm (27:34):
So they're trying to get you back.
So the moral of the story isguess what?
If they owe you sound stuff, ifthey owe you, they're still
gonna send you the check.

Mike Gorday (27:41):
Right?
Yeah, if they if if you'regetting money back, they'll
figure out a way to figure out away to send it to you.

Nathan Mumm (27:47):
All right, so this one I'm excited about this one
that you have to share with us.

Mike Gorday (27:49):
I'm excited about this one.
Okay.
Can you read that one to me,Mike?
I will totally read it to you.
Thank you.
Because it's from somebody fromservice at itm.etree.org.
Okay, well that seems legit.
Yeah, and it's to Nathan.
Okay.
The subject line is somethingwith T S I A in it.

(28:12):
Okay.
And then the entire email iskanji.
Do you know what kanji is?
Oh, it's kanji.
Uh Japanese writing.
So it's all Japanese, right?
It's all Japanese writingexcept for T S I A and some
numbers.
Okay.
Um, so I I think I think Idon't know if this is a scam or

(28:32):
they just think you're Japanese.
Because maybe, maybe mommy areyou just in Japanese?

Nathan Mumm (28:39):
So I'm not no, I'm not fluent in Japanese.

Marc Grégoire (28:41):
Mike can sing us that song.

Nathan Mumm (28:42):
All right.
Are are you fluent in Japanese,Mike?

Marc Grégoire (28:44):
Well, the song, Nathan.

Mike Gorday (28:46):
Turning Japanese.
Oh, turning Japanese.

Nathan Mumm (28:49):
That's from your era, too.

Mike Gorday (28:50):
I don't know that.
Move on, move on.

Nathan Mumm (28:52):
Okay, well, can you read this out loud to me?
Yeah, it says, hi, Nathan.
No, no, no.
I want the characters.
Is that like it's like no, Ican't read Japanese.
Oh, why?

Mike Gorday (29:02):
I can speak a little Japanese, but I can't
read it.
Okay.
It says, hi, Nathan.
Yeah.
We're totally on board with youbeing our Japanese person in
our email.
We know you recently visitedour lovely country and you hate
our bourbon.

Nathan Mumm (29:20):
Um, I don't hate that.
I think Mark more hates thebourbon.

Marc Grégoire (29:23):
Oh, maybe it's more there's no such thing as
Japanese bourbon, number one,because bourbon is a legal term
that can only be made in theUnited States.
That's what it says here.

Mike Gorday (29:32):
That's what it says here.
It says Mark doesn't know whathe what he's talking about
because we make bourbon all thetime.

Nathan Mumm (29:38):
So so that it's really tough of you.
We should probably put that upto the camera.

Mike Gorday (29:42):
So I don't I don't know, I don't know if that's a
scam or not, but it is funny.

Nathan Mumm (29:46):
So I did put it in Google Translate.

Mike Gorday (29:49):
What did it tell you?

Nathan Mumm (29:50):
It's uh either Google Translate did not work
well, or they did not have theuh phishing attempt well, or
they didn't have just theiremail well.
So I don't know which one was.
Wrong, but it could not makecoherent stuff.
There was some welcome inthere, there was some we'd like
to show you, and then there wassome tech time radio in there,
and that was it on the stuffthat it pulled out.

(30:11):
So when you actually pulled iton out, it did not Google
translate it correctly.

Marc Grégoire (30:16):
Maybe it's an offer for a million dollars to
buy Tech Time Radio.
Oh, it could have been.
It could have been.
Yeah, or it's you know or athousand yen.

Nathan Mumm (30:24):
Sure.
All right.
Okay, here's my next one.
This got me excited.
This came from Jamie Smith2702at V I R I L O dot info.
But it's Harbor Freight.
Well, hang on.
Well, it is.
It says you are an Octoberwinner.
Claim your free Pittsburgh carmaintenance set.

(30:44):
And then it has the title replyUAX5MS9, which is their tag.
So when the email comes on in,they can see which one of the
scammers that sent this outactually gets credit.
Yep, that's their creditnumber.
So they included that in thetitle subject.
So you know what?
Uh it did tell me now how do Isay this?

(31:05):
If I'm winning a Makita tool orif I'm winning something, I get
it.
This is a Pittsburgh carmaintenance set at Harbor
Freight.
These are like $15.
Well, these are like $15.
All right.
You still want it.
So I don't know.
And then say get now, right?
So it's got it's got Pittsburghcar maintenance, limited harbor

(31:26):
freight offer.
It's got tons of things.
You've been chosen toparticipate in our loyalty
program for free.
You get to be freely loyal.
Get it now.
Click here.
And what happens is when youactually click on this link,
when it clicks on this link, itactually says that you have to
write in to 8286 ExpressLaneSpanish Forks, Utah, 84660.

(31:49):
You actually have to take thema letter.
You have to send this in.
After you've claimed, you getan ID, and then you have to send
it to them in email or in mail.
Mail.
So I pay for a stamp to sendthem to win my $15 Pittsburgh
Car meeting.

Mike Gorday (32:09):
Edition Star Wars Star Wars figure.
Star Wars figure.

Nathan Mumm (32:11):
Yeah, you call you got collectibles, yeah.
Emperor Papel team that youcould only do.
That's right.
I got Emperor Pap team.

Mike Gorday (32:16):
Did you that way?

Nathan Mumm (32:17):
That oh that one, that's the most funny.

Mike Gorday (32:19):
Was this a scam?
He just incensed that he wouldhave to pay.
Scam over mail.
Well, yeah.
He has to buy a stamp in orderto get a $15 tool.

Nathan Mumm (32:30):
Well, see, a stamp, I have to pay for a stamp.
I have to go to the site, clickon the special thing.
I I I'm not you know, this maynot be a mic.

Mike Gorday (32:38):
This may just be a Nathan Rand.
No, no, no.
I get I I kind of get itbecause if I have to mail stuff,
I really don't because then Ihave to go buy stamps and you
know.
That's a whole different level.
That's a whole it's weird howthat used to be a part of my
everyday life.
And now when I have to buystamps, I'm like, nah, those
those bill guys can wait.

Nathan Mumm (32:58):
All right.
Well, you know what?
Last thing before we leave,because we're a little bit ahead
of time, we were talking aboutthis uh pre-show.
So let's talk about what is oneof the big scams that are going
on right now, Mark.

Marc Grégoire (33:08):
You were talking about as we were talking about
Yes, I believe it started inOregon, and I believe it's
through phone calls is how itstarts.
I'm not sure if it's phonecalls or emails or emails and it
turns into phone calls.
Yeah.
But basically they tell youyour cash is not safe, whether
it's in your house or in thebank, because the banking
system's gonna have issues andcrash, right?

(33:29):
It's gonna crash.
So please go out and use thismoney to buy gold.
Okay.
Gold is priceless and nevergoes out of style.
Okay.
And then to really protect youafter you buy the gold, they're
gonna send an FBI agent to meetyou to pick it up to hold it for
you.

Nathan Mumm (33:45):
Oh, so they're so hang on here.
So I buy the gold.
Uh so I'm safe now.
I I spend all my safety.

Mike Gorday (33:55):
I'm gonna come and pick it up and physically take
it to a safe house like you knowLeavenworth.
Okay, too.
Or what no, what where is it?
Where's the gold uh Colorado?
Very, very famous.
Fort Knox.

Nathan Mumm (34:07):
Fort Knox, yes.
So you're so you're you'regonna do the transportation for
me?

Mike Gorday (34:11):
I'm gonna do everything, man.
Okay I'm gonna I'm gonna keepyour gold safe for you.

Nathan Mumm (34:15):
And you're gonna even have to click on a link.
I don't have to click on alink.
And uh, how do I get in touchwith you at a later time?
I'll leave you a phone number.
So you're gonna leave me aphone number and then you're
gonna answer that, right?
Sure.
I give you my life savings ingold.
This is happening, especially Iknow.

Mike Gorday (34:34):
This is the horrible thing is that people
are falling for this.

Marc Grégoire (34:36):
It is, and and most of them are older.
Um scared about 80s, scaredabout the environment, and as we
grow older, we grow moreinsecure about our money.

Nathan Mumm (34:49):
Is that what it is?

Mike Gorday (34:50):
Yeah.
Okay.
The uh the older population isalways targeted by these people
because they are more easilyswayed by these things than
other folks.

Marc Grégoire (35:02):
And I believe the ring that's running it is
been is based out of India.
Because I have arrested a fewpeople.
Okay.
And they've uh India based.
Okay, so India base.
There you go.

Mike Gorday (35:13):
Do not trust anybody if they're gonna do they
bring the gold to India?

Nathan Mumm (35:16):
Is that is that don't I don't think they've
figured out yet where it goes.
I'm sure they take it down tothe local pawn shop, make the
money from it.
Probably what happens.
Yeah, I mean that's the bestway to do that.

Mike Gorday (35:26):
All right, well how do you know that, Nathan?

Nathan Mumm (35:29):
Uh Nathan's goldforall.com.
Just visit Nathan's goldforall.

Mike Gorday (35:36):
No, it has to be Nathan's Goldforall Plus.com.

Nathan Mumm (35:39):
Okay.
Dot AI, because the AI uhextensions now are the highest
thing.
I'll be talking to you abouthow many AI extensions I just
purchased.

Mike Gorday (35:47):
I I don't want to hear about it.

Nathan Mumm (35:49):
Okay.
All right.
That ends our letter segment onthe show.
Up now we have Mike'sMesmerizing Moment.
Welcome to Mike's MesmerizingMoment.
What does Mike have to saytoday?
All right, with Black Fridaycoming, we have great deals on
technology items just around thecorner.
But we know the TVs are not toget at the Black Friday

(36:12):
specials.
Do not buy a TV.
Buy a TV at the Super Bowlspecials because you get the new
ones at the prices that arethere instead of the leftovers
that haven't selled.
But laptops and desktops are onthe docket for upgrades.
Many people are looking toupgrade this year.
Why do we like shopping onthese big holiday deal days?
Well, Amazon Prime just hadtheir prime times five day or

(36:33):
whatever it was, or Prime Days,or whatever they had up there,
and they they have a peoplespend money.
We look forward to these days.
What is wrong with us?

Marc Grégoire (36:41):
Can I answer for mic?
Yeah, go ahead.
This is a dumb question.
This is a dumb becausetraditionally these are the best
deals, and so we want deals, soyou're gonna buy when it's the
cheapest price.
Okay, and a story.
Okay, okay.

Mike Gorday (36:55):
Well, I don't I don't know if I don't know if we
could say we like shopping forthese items, but we are trained
to shop for these items.
Okay, how's that?
We we always want the deal.
We always want to feel likewe're getting something of value
for less than what it'ssupposed to be, right?
And when and when they do thesethings, they're banking on the

(37:16):
fact that you're gonna you'regonna go into some sort of
buying frenzy.
Okay.
Right?
It's it's kind of like a lossleader at a grocery store.
You know what a loss leader is?
Yeah, that's where they get youon in and then buy uh milk for
dirt cheap, but yeah, they tellyou, you know, during
Thanksgiving, they tell you thatthey're gonna be selling their
turkeys for whatever you know, asmall amount of money per

(37:38):
pound.
So, right, so so you're theidea is that you come in and you
buy the turkey, but you alsoneed the basting stuff, you need
the the stuffing, and so you'regoing to pay full price for
that stuff, which is actuallyprobably hiked up because it
they need to offset the price ofthe turkey.
Okay.
So this is this is some of thesame thing.
And it takes advantage of ourscarcity problem when we have

(38:00):
these sort of scarcity uhfeelings that enter into our
brains.
Fear of missing out.
Yeah, fear of missing out.
We start reacting and we startdoing things subconsciously.
You know, I you know I workedas a car salesman, right?
I do, yep.
Um You're the only person I'veever known that worked in the
car dealership stuff.
So you're you're my guy.
Yeah, it was not, it wasn'teven an accident, and I I don't

(38:23):
like talking about it that much.
Okay.
But uh we would have a saleevery day, even when we didn't
have sales.
You know, you're riding downthe road and you see the little
flag guys and the big salethings.
Yep.
That's all BS.
Yeah, going out of business.
None of those none of thosecars are on sale.
It's all BS.
It's it's because we react tothat kind of stuff because of

(38:47):
those those feelings of scarcityand fear of missing out and
whatnot.
And and we just sort of this iswhy I was talking about last
week about how easily we are areled down the path of
destruction when it comes tothis kind of psychological Have
you ever have had did you everhave anybody come on in and ask

(39:08):
to buy a car that wasn't onsale?

Nathan Mumm (39:10):
It didn't matter.

Mike Gorday (39:12):
It doesn't matter.
Because none of us are when itcomes to car sales, yeah, the
customer is never right.

Nathan Mumm (39:17):
Okay, and you're always trying to push something
out.

Mike Gorday (39:19):
Yeah, we're gonna take you we're gonna take you as
you come in and you're lookingfor this particular model and
car, and we're gonna take youaround and try and manipulate
you until you get the one thatwe want you to get because
that's what gives us the biggestsale.
Biggest sale.
And I'm saying I'm saying thecollective we, not because I
enjoyed it, but because that'show I was trained to do it.

Nathan Mumm (39:41):
Okay, that makes sense.
Well, Mike, thanks for thatmesmerizing moment.

Mike Gorday (39:46):
So what are you gonna buy?
What are you gonna buy on BlackFriday?

Nathan Mumm (39:49):
Uh I have to find I gotta buy a new desktop, so I
gotta figure out what I'm gonnabuy.
I I I think I'm gonna probablytake advantage you're gonna take
advantage of those low, lowprices.
Uh I will, probably, yeah.
Uh probably buy something onNew Egg or some other couple
different places so I can get myDoes New Egg still exist?
Yeah, it still exists.
It's kind of more of a eBaymarketplace now, so you can post

(40:10):
stuff up there.
All right.
Thanks for that mesmerizingmoment.
We're gonna head out, and whenwe come on back, we have this
weekend technology.
So now's a great time to enjoya little whiskey on the side, as
we will be doing so during thebreak.
You're listening to Tech TimeRadio with Nathan Mum.
Hey Mike.
Yeah, what's up?
Hey, so you know what?
We need people to start likingour uh social media pages.

Mike Gorday (40:30):
If you like our show, if you really like us, we
could use your support onPatreon.com.
Or is it Patreon?
I think it's Patreon.
Okay, Patreon.
If you really like us, you cansay I'm the English guy?
Patreon.com.

Nathan Mumm (40:42):
Is it I I butcher the English language?
You know you butcher theEnglish language.
So it's all the time.
It's Patreon.

Mike Gorday (40:48):
Patreon.com.
If you really like if youreally like our show, you can
subscribe to Patreon.com andhelp us out.
Oh, and you can visit us onthat Facebook platform.

Nathan Mumm (40:57):
You know the one that Zuckerberg owns?

Mike Gorday (40:58):
The one that we always bag on?

Nathan Mumm (41:00):
Yeah, you can we're on Facebook too.
Yeah, like us on Facebook.
Do you know what our Facebookpage is?
Tech Time Radio.
At Tech Time Radio.
You know what?
There's a trend here.
It seems to be that there's atrend, and that's Tech Time
Radio.
Or you can even Instagram withus.
And that's at Tech Time Radio.
That's at Tech Time Radio.
Or you can find us on TikTok.
And it's Tech Time Radio.
It's at Tech Time Radio.

Mike Gorday (41:22):
Like and subscribe to our social media.

Nathan Mumm (41:24):
Like us today.
We need you to like us.

Mike Gorday (41:26):
Like us and subscribe.
That's it.

Nathan Mumm (41:28):
That's it.
That's that simple.

Announcement (41:31):
And now, let's look back at this week in
technology.

Nathan Mumm (41:38):
All right, Mike, we're going back to October
24th, 2003.
This was the last flight of theConcorde.
Now the Concorde wasconstructed from aluminum.
It was the first airline tohave an analog flyby wire flight
controls.
The airliner had atransatlantic range, which,
while super cruising at twicethe speed of sound for 75% of

(42:00):
the distance that it traveled.
Now the Concorde supersonic jetmade its last commercial flight
while the Concorde crossed theAtlantic and about 3.5 miles or
3.5 hours, low passengernumbers, and rising maintenance
costs made it unprofitable forBritish Airways and Air France
to operate.
18 of the 20 aircraft built arepreserved today and are on

(42:22):
display in Europe and NorthAmerica.
It's considered by aviation asone of the greatest inventions,
yet one of the worst producedairplanes of all time.
Why was it the worst produced?
Well, because they had so manyproblems and so expensive, and
it was such a revolutionary ideato what they did.
They couldn't mass produce theitems.

(42:43):
They're all specialty-baseditems, and therefore wasn't able
to stay in the market.
Now, it's interesting becauseit was a Europe-based company
that built the Concorde, andthen Boeing tried to come on out
with their competitive stuff,and that still didn't work
either.
And they found out thetraditional planes that take a
little longer to fly are themost economic, easiest to build,

(43:06):
and cheapest to maintain.
So there it is, the cheapest tomaintain.
That was this week intechnology.
If you ever wanted to watchsome tech time history with over
270 plus weekly broadcastspanning over six plus years of
video, podcast, blog, andinformation, you can visit us at
techtime radio.com.
Watch our older shows.
That's right.
Techtime radio.com, the newfast site.

(43:27):
Come and visit.
We're going to take acommercial break.
Uh you know what?
I gotta tell everybody soon wemay have this cryptocurrency
thing that's gonna be going onwith Tech Time Radio.
This little spoiler that you'regonna I you get you you like
that idea?
No.
You know, say you watch us andyou earn cryptocurrency.
What do you think about that?

(43:49):
What does that mean?
You get an Ethereum chain.
You get an Ethereum chain andthe more you watch the more you
watch, the more you get?

Mike Gorday (43:56):
Yes.
Okay.
Okay, there you go.

Nathan Mumm (43:59):
Let's you know what?

Mike Gorday (43:59):
I'm gonna take advantage of the marketing
employees by TV.
What do I get for being on theshow?
Do I do I the more I'm on theshow, the more I get?
Uh you know what?

Nathan Mumm (44:08):
You can go home.
This is what you can get.
Oh, if I go home and watch it.
That's a 24 by 7.
Uh-huh.

Mike Gorday (44:14):
That's what I'm gonna do.
I'm just gonna set it on loops.

Nathan Mumm (44:17):
It's a hustle.
All right, we're gonna take acommercial break when we return.
We have Mark Mumble WhiskeyReview.
See you after the break.

Mike Gorday (44:23):
How to See a Man About a Dog.
It combines darkly comic shortstories, powerful poems, and
pulp fiction prose to create aheartbreaking and hilarious
journey readers will not soonforget.
Read How to See a Man About aDog.
Collected writings for freewith Kindle Unlimited.
Ebook available on Kindle,print copies available on Amazon
The Book Pository, and more.

Announcement (44:49):
The segment we've been waiting all week for.
Mark's Whiskey Mumble.

Marc Grégoire (44:59):
All right, October 21st.
What is today?
Today Nathan is celebratingalong with me.

Nathan Mumm (45:06):
Oh.
Oh, that's not bald stuff.
Uh must be um something to dowith strength or good looking or
or intelligence.
Isn't it naturally?

Marc Grégoire (45:20):
What we're doing with the whiskey and what I'm
wearing.
Uh oh, is it is it back to thefuture?
It is back to the future day.

Nathan Mumm (45:28):
Oh, wow.
Okay.

Marc Grégoire (45:29):
Throw on your Nikes, pop in the VHS, and rev
up your DeLorean.
Oh.
Because October 21st is Back tothe Future Days.
First celebrated in 2015.
Okay.
A significant year for seriousfans.
Yep.
The original Back to the Futureis a 1985 sci-fi classic.

Nathan Mumm (45:46):
2015 is the day that they go into the future.
That's correct.
And Marty's son gets introuble.
But I don't know why.
We still don't havehoverboards.
We still don't havehoverboards.
And I don't know why Marty'sson would still be hanging out
with a relative of Biff.
You're telling me that in thisworld that they could not, he
could not have found any otherfriends in his high school at
that time.

Mike Gorday (46:04):
Look at that what they were wearing in Back to the
Future 2015.

Nathan Mumm (46:08):
Some of that stuff is in style.
Except for maybe not thehelmets that looked like they
were uh from uh Mario Brothers.
The Jetsons.

Marc Grégoire (46:17):
Okay.

Nathan Mumm (46:17):
All right.

Marc Grégoire (46:17):
Well, tell us more.
All right.
So great Scott.
If we could fire up theDeLorean and head back to 1972,
a bottle of Jack Daniels Old No.
7 would cost just a few bucks.
Fast forward to today, andwhile the prices change at
smooth Tennessee character hasnot.
Proof that some things do notneed time travel to stay
timeless.
Just like the fact that everydrop is still made in Lynchburg

(46:40):
since 1866 from the oldestregistered distillery in the
U.S.
A town that has been dry sinceProhibition.
What?

Nathan Mumm (46:49):
So they make it in a town that's dry.

Marc Grégoire (46:51):
Yeah.

Nathan Mumm (46:52):
So they make it in a town.

Marc Grégoire (46:53):
I've heard that before.

Nathan Mumm (46:54):
I think I have heard that too.

Marc Grégoire (46:55):
So they can't even taste their own whiskey.
There's an exception for on thedistillery to taste.

Nathan Mumm (47:02):
So does that mean everybody in the town just
somewhere else to buy it?
They all work, they all workthere.
Or they all have one bar thatthey set up and they all just
come and drink there all night.
Well they just go across a citylimit.

Marc Grégoire (47:14):
Now, tasting Jack Daniels number seven from
1972, besides today's release,shows just how much things have
changed.
The 1972 pour has character,more oak, proof, and
authenticity.
If that version were still onthe shelf, it would be a daily
drinker for me.
The modern bottle, though,smoother and sweeter, lacks that

(47:35):
soul.
It is one I would rarely reachfor.
Better to do a Jack and Cokewith the new version.
Well, 1972 is a sipper.

Mike Gorday (47:44):
This is the 1972 version.
He hasn't said yet.

Marc Grégoire (47:48):
He's not telling.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Have you said yet?
Which one do you like better?
I like this better.
The one in the Glenn Karenversus the beer glass?

Nathan Mumm (47:56):
Yeah, you know that I'm a Glenn Karen.

Marc Grégoire (47:59):
This is the better tasting of the two.

Nathan Mumm (48:00):
It is sweeter.

Marc Grégoire (48:01):
So you both think the Glenn Karen is better
tasting.
Well, you both like the 1972.
All right, good.
How about that?

Nathan Mumm (48:09):
There you go.
That's what I thought.
We agreed.
That's all right.

Mike Gorday (48:12):
Well, what's gonna happen there?
It is gonna be a record day.
Yeah, that's that's a sign inthe end times, man.
There's a trumpet blowersomewhere.

Nathan Mumm (48:19):
All right.
Thanks, Odie and Mark.
Whiskey and technology are sucha great pairing, like milk and
ovaltine.
What?
What a miss.
What are you talking about?
Don't you like milk andovaltine?

Mike Gorday (48:32):
Does anybody know what oval teen is?
Yes.

Marc Grégoire (48:34):
Odie, do you know what oval teen is?
A classic example would be milkand Oreo cookies.

Nathan Mumm (48:38):
Oh, that would have been a good classic.
Ovaltine is absolutely anadditive that you add to the
milk itself.

Mike Gorday (48:45):
So then you then you then you I I think you were
on the back end of the wholeoval teen push.

Nathan Mumm (48:51):
No, then you use a uh a spoon and you have
everything ready to go.

Mike Gorday (48:57):
Did you ever drink ovaltine?
I did not as a kid?

Nathan Mumm (49:00):
I did I did drink oval teen as a kid.

Mike Gorday (49:02):
Okay.

Nathan Mumm (49:02):
All right.
All right.
All right.
Next segment.

Mike Gorday (49:05):
Yeah, let's let's move on from the oval teen.
Let's prepare for ourtechnology fail of the week.

Announcement (49:11):
Congratulations.
You're a failure.
Oh, I failed.
Did I?
Yes.
Did I?
Yes.

Nathan Mumm (49:19):
All right.
This week our technology failcomes to us from payment
processes across the globe.
Two of the largest platformswent down at the same time.
Is this a coincidence?
All right, PayPal and Venmowere down, and here's what you
know about each of theseplatform outages.
If you weren't able to sendmoney last week, you're not
alone.
Two of the largest onlinepayments experienced major
outages on October 16th.

(49:40):
According to Down Detector,which attracts reports, outages
from services, both PayPal andVenmo saw a surge beginning from
11 a.m.
Eastern and lasted for over anhour.
PayPal hit nearly 10,000reports, and Venmo wasn't far
behind at 8,000.
Now PayPal took a while toreflect the issue.
It was having on its own statuspage, but shared a statement

(50:01):
with us that said the outage hadbeen concluded.
PayPal and Venmo experienced abrief service disruption almost
at the same time.
And they're on two differentplatforms.
Hmm.
Was this a misconfigurationhack?
Or was this a major breach?
Well, guess what?
We'll find out later.
Yeah, we do not know yetbecause they have not made the

(50:21):
announcement.
There has not been a postingonline that said it was a hack
either.
If there was, I would beannouncing that.
But there seems to be still inthe dark that either they both
have the same IT service personthat hit the wrong button or
something happened.
Fire eye.
All right.
There you go.
We're gonna head right now.
Don't, don't, to ourneighborhood.
Yeah, to our Nathan Nugget.

Announcement (50:40):
This is your nugget of the week.

Nathan Mumm (50:42):
All right.
So I may have one.
I got a little bit of time.
I may do a little second onehere.
So we're gonna talk aboutsomething good.
This fellow by the name ofCraig Clark.
Do you know who Craig Clark is?
No.
He's like a good neighbor.

Mike Gorday (50:54):
Nobody knows who Craig Clark is.

Nathan Mumm (50:55):
Well, Craig Carr is like a good neighbor.
State Farm is there.
Do you need a laptop?
We did not get paid for that.
We did not get that.
This retiree refurbisheslaptops, gives them away to
those in need.
So he retired from a chain ofconvenience stores.
He became a computertechnician.
Then he got the idea to providelaptops to those who can't
afford them.
Clark, who is based out ofFlorida, became known as the

(51:18):
Tech Fairy.
And there's no memory as to whyor how people branded himself
that, he says.
He says that he doesn't mindthe Tech Ferry idea, but really
all he wants to do is fix oldcomputers and be able to have
them work for somebody new.
Now he started eight years agodoing this, and he's helped
hundreds of people with photosto prove each one of these that
he's given away.

(51:38):
In the 700 plus pictures,there's a lot of convenience
store workers, a lot of fastfood workers, and people you
don't really uh able to pay fora brand new laptop at $1,200 a
pop.
The 79-year-old, one manoperation, says that he has
stacks and stacks of computers.
And what he does is he takesthe computers, opens them up,

(51:58):
cleans them out, replaces themwith bigger hard drives and
memory from all the others thathe has collected, and then he
gives them away.
He gives away about eight ornine a month, and he's probably
has 500 laptops ready to goright now.

Marc Grégoire (52:14):
What does he charge him for the new laptop?
No, nothing.
That's free.

Mike Gorday (52:17):
That's what Nathan.
That's what that's what Nathandoes, except he doesn't give
them to anybody.

Nathan Mumm (52:22):
No, I I I do actually I do give them out.
Did you yeah, I do give themout.
I thought you've sold them.
No, because normally by thetime I actually do spend a lot
of time taking the batteries,going and what I end up doing is
I use them for like big events,is I take older machines, use
them for big events until theycan't be done.
Or I give them to my wife, andthat's her computer that she
has, and I say, Here you go,honey.
It looks like it's a new one.
I don't know if that counts.

(52:43):
Sorry, Tracy.

Mike Gorday (52:44):
I don't know if that counts.

Marc Grégoire (52:46):
She just moved this this this rating of this
show from a 10 down to a one.
That's right.

Nathan Mumm (52:51):
Well, speaking about Windows, let's talk about
something that a lot of peopledon't know about.
Are they touch screens?
Do you get do you guys knowwhat Power Uh Toys is?
They used to be kind of likePower Toys, Power Tools.
These are window enhancements.
They're like mods.
They're like mods for Windows.
But it actually is released byMicrosoft, so it's like it
officially worked on hackedversions of different stuff.

(53:13):
Now, guess what?
Microsoft is excited to finallyannounce with its new version
of Power Toys that you can getPower Toys.

Mike Gorday (53:21):
It sounds like you're belting anywhere.

Nathan Mumm (53:23):
Power Toys that you can get on the Windows Store.
So you got to go to the Windowsstore and look for Power Toys.
You can actually now sincethey've released one.
They have.
It has been uh they do it aboutevery year and a half, two
years.
So it takes a little while.
But most of these aredevelopers that are doing this
on their free time on the backend to add functionality that

(53:44):
they at one time had in the codethat then gets stripped off,
and then they had these roguedevelopers that were all mad, so
they decided to come up withthe whole idea of Windows 95
Power Toys is when it reallystarted coming on out because
all the features they wouldthrow in there.

Marc Grégoire (53:59):
Do you guys know what some of the new toys are?

Nathan Mumm (54:00):
Yeah.
You can now have your Windowsmachine go from light to dark
mode.
You know the feature that uh aMac has had for maybe like 10
years.
Uh when it gets dark, all of asudden you can go white and the
screen, and then when it's theother one, you can go black and
white.
So you can now have an updateavailable for free at Power Toys
uh in the app store.

(54:22):
Well, guys, you know what?
I think now we need to move toour pick of the day whiskey
tasting.

Announcement (54:29):
And now our pick of the day for our whiskey
tastings.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop.

Marc Grégoire (54:36):
Good transition, everybody.
Today we are tasting JackDaniels Old No.
7 black label, a recentpurchase versus Back to the
Bourbon, a 1972 bottle.

Nathan Mumm (54:48):
All right.
I give a thumbs up to thisbottle right here.

Mike Gorday (54:53):
Are we supposed to be thumbs up in each one of
them?

Marc Grégoire (54:56):
Not each one, just the 1972.
I give it a thumbs up.
Thumbs up.
Absolutely.
I wish this was the standardoffering right now.

Nathan Mumm (55:04):
Can you go back to them and tell them, hey, change
it back to the way you had it?

Marc Grégoire (55:07):
Yeah, you can go back and tell them.

Nathan Mumm (55:08):
Yeah, Mark, you got a lot of power in the whiskey
community.
How about you?

Marc Grégoire (55:12):
MASH Bill, so it's it's more there's a lot of
other factors that play intomaking the whiskey.
It's about the the wood that,you know, the wood they use now
isn't quite as aged as back inthe early 1970s.
We have less wood.
Uh water has changed, uh yeastthat they use, you know, et
cetera, et cetera.
They just need to go back tothe old way.

Nathan Mumm (55:31):
That's what I tell everybody at work all the time.
Sometimes we just need to finda new way to do that.
The old ways the better.
The old ways the better.

Mike Gorday (55:36):
That's always that's funny coming out of your
mouth.
It's always better to go backto the old.
Yeah, I think so.
I think we I think we need tobe back in pre-internet days.

Marc Grégoire (55:46):
Days, okay.
That's all right.
That's all right.

Nathan Mumm (55:48):
All right.
I don't quite think we shouldgo back that far.

Mike Gorday (55:50):
No, I know.
You you but you want to be youwant to live in Star Trek, so I
do.

Nathan Mumm (55:55):
I do.
I want to see the aliens, Iwant to fly.
We just need to determine thatfuture reality.
That's right.
Not not the not the uh or backto the future reality would be
fine too.
I could handle that.
Go back and and get the uhsports almanac, and I can make
millions and millions ofdollars.
I could be like Biff.
All right, now guess what,Mike?
Okay, whatever.
We're about out of time.
We want to thank our listenersfor joining the program.
Listeners, we want you to hearfrom you.

(56:17):
Go visit techtimeradio.com,click on be a caller, ask us a
question on technology in ourtalk back recording system.
If you do that, I will send youten dollars on my Venmo
account.
For those that are listening,go and leave me the first one to
go to the talk the talkbackrecording system at techtime

(56:37):
radio.com under contacts.
Does that?
I'll send you 10 bucks.
All right.
Except is Venmo gonna beworking?
I hope so.
All right.
You know what?
You can always also like ourpage on YouTube and watch all of
our shows.
It's about out of time.
It's an honor to be a host ontoday's show.
Each week we're here to decodethe technology that shapes our
world.
One breach breakthrough andbourbon out of time.

(56:58):
See you next week.
Later.
Bye-bye.

Announcement (57:01):
Thanks for joining us on Tech Time Radio.
We hope that you had a chanceto have that hmm moment today in
technology.
The fun doesn't stop there.
We recommend that you go totechtime radio.com and join our
fan list for the most importantaspect of staying connected and
winning some really greatmonthly prizes.
We also have a few other waysto stay connected, including

(57:23):
subscribing to our podcast onany podcast service, from Apple
to Google and everything inbetween.
We're also on YouTube.
So check us out onYouTube.comslash techtime radio,
all one word.
We hope you enjoyed the show asmuch as we did making it for
you.
From all of us at Tech TimeRadio, remember Mum's the Word.
Have a safe and fantastic week.
Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

Are You A Charlotte?

Are You A Charlotte?

In 1997, actress Kristin Davis’ life was forever changed when she took on the role of Charlotte York in Sex and the City. As we watched Carrie, Samantha, Miranda and Charlotte navigate relationships in NYC, the show helped push once unacceptable conversation topics out of the shadows and altered the narrative around women and sex. We all saw ourselves in them as they searched for fulfillment in life, sex and friendships. Now, Kristin Davis wants to connect with you, the fans, and share untold stories and all the behind the scenes. Together, with Kristin and special guests, what will begin with Sex and the City will evolve into talks about themes that are still so relevant today. "Are you a Charlotte?" is much more than just rewatching this beloved show, it brings the past and the present together as we talk with heart, humor and of course some optimism.

Stuff You Should Know

Stuff You Should Know

If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.