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All right, welcome to Tech Time Radio.
Today on the show, we have ourHalloween episode where we have
the spooky and scary technologyitems.

Mike Gorday (02:00):
Okay, are you a pirate?
Are you uh Trump?
Uh you're like moving into thatterritory.
Errrr.
All right.

Well, you know what That's amazing.
That's amazing.
That's the best ever.
All right.
Well, you know what?
We have our Halloween episode,and of course, that means we
have Nick Espinoza on the show.
You know what that means?
We're going to be talking aboutall the scary things that you
can learn in technology.
Today's show will make youdrink.
We promise you that.
And of course, we also have ourstandard features, including
Mike's mesmerizing moment, ourtechnology fail of the week, a

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Nathan Nugget, and our pick ofthe day whiskey tasting.
To see if our pick of whiskeygets zero, one or two thumbs up
by the end of the show.
But now it's time for thelatest headlines in the world of
technology.

Announcer (02:44):
Here are our top technology stories of the week.

All right.

Story number one (02:49):
Amazon has a lot of explaining to do, from
job cuts to major outages on itscloud service.
Let's go to Lisa Walker formore on last week's outage.

Announcer (02:59):
Amazon Web Services, AWS, has apologized to customers
affected by last week's massiveoutage, which knocked some of
the world's largest platformsoffline.
Snapchat, Reddit, and Lloyd'sBank were among more than 1,000
sites and services reported tohave gone down as a result of
issues at the heart of the cloudcomputing giant.

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Amazon said it occurred due toerrors in its internal systems
involving the IP addressescomputers use to find them.
Back to you guys in the studio.

I bet you there's a whole subreddit about them
bitching about this.

Yes, there is.
There's a whole subreddit outthere that you can listen to all
about this.
And those Snapchat people werejust so disappointed they
couldn't send their pictures.
All right, well, the outage hasfar-reaching impact, even
reportedly disrupting the sleepof some smart bed owners.
Now, this is when it's hit arock bottom issue.
Eight sleep, which makes sleeppods with temperature and

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elevation options require aninternet connection.
And its outage-proof mattresshad some problems with one
overheating and getting stuck inthe inclined position.
Oh my goodness.
Doesn't this sound like acartoon where you see the
mattress fold up right in themiddle of somebody?
This is some Salvador dollystuff, man.
Well, this is just surreal.
Many experts said the outageshowed how reliant tech is on

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Amazon's dominance in the cloudcomputer sector as the market
larger cornered by AWS andMicrosoft Azure.
And the specific technicalreason is a faulty automation
broke the internal address booksystem that the region relies
upon.
The company said that it woulddo everything we can to learn
from this event and improve itsavailability.

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So does improving this meangetting rid of employees?
Because guess what?
Amazon is planning to cut600,000 human jobs for robots.
So you know what?
We have a problem with thescript.
It has to be human error.
So you know what?
Let's just create more robots.
Amazon plans to cut 600,000jobs, human jobs, of course, for
robots.
Uh in an insider report, by2033, they expect to be 75%

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operational on automation.
Since 2018, the number ofAmazon employees in the U.S.
has more than tripled to almost1.2 million.
Nevertheless, managers havereportedly informed the board
last year that the company willnot need to hire any more U.S.
employees in the future, thanksto advancement in robotic
automation, even if sales doubleby the year 2033.

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According to internaldocuments, around 160,000 jobs
could be lost by 2027,particularly in logistics and
warehousing.
In the long term, Amazon plansto automate around 75% of all
activities, which will save thecompany up to $12.6 billion,
according to the projections.
Now, this will reduce cost ofeach product it sells by 30

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cents.
Now, do you think that 30 centsis going to be saved for
everybody, Mike?
Are you going to save 30 centson that shipping cost now since
they're going to go all torobots?

No, they'll find some way of charging me with
extra money.

That's crazy.
Now, Amazon already employs onemillion robots to support its
1.6 million human workers.
In the future, however,machines will no longer just
help uh keep the companyrunning, but it'll also have
many of the tasks beyond thewarehouse.
They expect to have oneemployee for every 500 robots
that will be running around inthe city.

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So they think of that.
Their little warehouses aregonna have 500 of these bad
boys.
Yeah.
Well, Amazon, we're gonnacontinue with Amazon.
There's so much news with them.
They're actually uh in trouble.
They're set to pay out refundsto qualifying prime users after
a $2.5 billion sedimentsettlement with the Federal
Trade Commission.
Sediment is what happens on thebottom of my uh uh whiskey

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glass when I'm drinking out erron the on the island.

Hey, you even use that properly.

That's right.
The retail giant agreed to thesettlement to resolve an
antitrust lawsuit the FTC filedby 2023, where federal officials
alleged Amazon coerced millionsof consumers into enrolling
into Prime subscriptions thatmade their agreements extremely
difficult to cancel.
The amount of money eachcustomer gets from this $2.5
billion, what is it going to be?

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A maximum of $51 per customer.

That's what you get for $2.5 billion.

The lawyers take 90% of it, and you get $51.
That's right.
Now there's two differentsettlement groups that will be
issued money.
The first group receive anautomatic payment, which will be
filed with Amazon for theirprime benefits three or less
times during a 12-month period.
Customers who qualify for thesettlement should receive their
payment by December 24th, 2025.

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Those who do not qualify forthe automatic payment still have
the opportunity to file aclaim.
A third-party claimadministration uh will be sent
out with information in January23rd of 2026.
However, eligible claimantswill have to wait until July
23rd, 2026 to officially submitthe claims.
So in January, that we're gonnaallow people that didn't get

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the automatic payment onDecember 24th, the day before
Christmas.
There you go.
To then sign on up so they canget something else.
You know what?
Amazon is in a world of hurtright now.

I don't think they're in a world of hurt.

You don't think so?
No.
They'll just move theirheadquarters.

I mean, this was the big this was the biggest
fine that anybody's gotten sofar.
But they're are they no,they're not in a big world or
hurt.
You don't think they're a bigworld or hurt?

No.
$51.
Do you do you pay for AmazonPrime?
Yeah.
Uh Odie, do you pay for AmazonPrime?
Okay.
So that means that we allshould get $51 back.
And what are you gonna do withthat?

That's only if we qualify for the coincidence.

Ody (08:38):
How much is that in the grand scheme of things to them?
Like, is that like $20?

Uh, probably not.
Well, it's it's I'm sure it'sfifty-one dollars until
inflation keeps on going up, andso then it'll only be worth
like two dollars.
But it's two point five billiondollars in the settlement.

Ody (08:53):
Yeah, but compared to Bezos or to Amazon as a company, is
that chump change?
Yeah, it's chump change.
That's chump change.

And they're gonna give it some.

That's him housing on credit.
That's him housing his superyacht for a month.
That's you know what, that'sgonna be in credit, so they can
just spend more money on theirAmazon stuff.

Yeah, yeah.
What's it really gonna do?
I mean, heck.
They're getting rid of 75% oftheir force.
Their sales force.
Or no, not sales force, theirpeople force.

Yeah, 600,000 people, you know, that's not a
big deal.
Yeah, no, 1.6 million, youknow, 600,000 robots.

Let's not create jobs, let's eliminate jobs.
That's what this is all about.

All right, well, you know what?
It's our Halloween episode.
So let's move on to storynumber two.

Yeah, let's talk about the disturbing, some
really disturbing stuff here.
Uh, if you're not disturbed bythis, you might need to go see a
uh therapist.

Okay.

Remember Suzanne Summers?

Oh, yes, the Thighmaster.

The Thighmaster Three's company.

Oh, yeah.

She died, she died a couple years ago.
Do you know that?
I did not know that.
I'm sorry to hear that.
Okay, well.
Uh, she is now living on as anAI robot.
What?
Alan Hamill creates an AI cloneof his late wife, Suzanne
Summers, two years after hisdeath or her death, and says he
can't tell the difference fromthe AI model and his late wife.

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Okay.
Okay, and when we first talkedabout this, when we first talked
about this, we just thoughtthis was just like some sort of
chatbot thing, right?
We did.

We did we just thought that was a prompt.

And then we had to do a bunch of research on our.
It is not.
This is an AI robot sex doll.
It is, isn't it?
They have in they have input anAI version of Suzanne Summers
into a life-size robotic doll.
Odie, yeah.
Why are you looking like that,Odie?

Ody (10:45):
She's not a sex doll, though.
She's just made from a sexdoll.
Correct.
Her made, yeah.

So she's not she's not being used as a sexual.

Ody (10:51):
That's not her use.

She's not being used.

Are you really sure about that?

Well, I don't know.

Ody (10:57):
Well, on behalf of his ex-husband says he can't tell
the difference.
You don't think you don't thinkthat's that's part of his part
of his difference between aheartbeat and no heartbeat, but
that the doll doesn't likeanything like Suzanne Summer's.
I'm sorry.

Suzanne Summer didn't have dark hair.

That's the that's the thing here.
Two years after her death,okay, at 76, her husband and
partner of 55 years startedputting plans into action that
they they both had discussed fordecades.
Okay.
And one of the projects thatthey were doing is coming up
with this AI twin uh to herex-husband.

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Okay.
The project is perfect.
It is an AI and a talking doll.
It he says it was Suzanne.
I asked her a few questions,she answered them, blew me and
everybody else away.
When you look at the AI next tothe real Suzanne, you can't
tell the difference.
It's amazing.
If this does not disturb you,if this is an eye problem.

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Because he can't see very well.
If this isn't disturbing toyou, the I mean, okay.
This is very disturbing.
Is Alan nearsighted?
Well, he's 76, so probably yes.
Many ask if the doll or hislate wife look anything in
common after seeing it ondisplay, and many see no
similarities.
Okay.
While the AI is fairly new tomost, Hamill revealed that he

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had been in an ongoingconversation with himself and
his wife since the eighties whenuh Ray Kurzweil first explained
the concept to him.
Um Ray Kurtzweil, I guess,according to Bill Gates, is the
smartest man on the planet.
Okay.
Okay.

Yeah.
Coming from Bill Gates, he wasbeing thought of as one of the
software geniuses that probablywrote very little code to
anything that he did as he stolemost of it, but that's okay.
Continuing on.

I don't know, and I don't care.
And you know, this is this isreally disturbing if you can't
tell the difference between yourreal ex-wife and a robot
ex-wife.

Yeah, yeah.

Um, and I think this is I mean, this is
disturbing on so many levels tome.
This is this is this is what Iargue about why KI is bad.
Okay.
It all rolled into one, becausenow this this person is is in
love with uh he's interactingwith a doll.
He is uh anamorphizing it sothat it is his wife, he's

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treating it as if it's a livingthing, uh, which I'm sure
includes other things ratherthan just talking about it.
And he's not allowing himselfto grieve the loss of his wife.

That's the biggest thing, isn't it?
Isn't like the the wholecondition of dealing with death
really important for for us as asociety?

Yes, it is.
And when when we do stuff we'vetalked about this before when
when we were talking about this,I think they were doing this in
Japan.
Yep, yeah where they werecreating these AI ghosts of
their their departed souls.
Or or kids or whatever.
Yeah, we're not we're if we'renot allowing ourselves to grieve
because we are trying toreplace that with some sort of

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object, yeah, um, that is thatis ultimately not good for our
mental health.
All right.
I totally agree.
I I don't know that you reallyagree with that.
I think you would I think Ithink you would have a you
wouldn't have an AI doll hangingout.

No, no, no, I would I do an R2D2 or some robot type
of deal or Rosie, but Iwouldn't want an AI doll.

Ody (14:28):
Yeah, he would never do a person as a as a doll.
No.
Or a person.

Give me a robot.
Yeah, he would.
Yeah, it would be in a closet.
See, three PO it would be in acloset somewhere, but he would.

Wow.

All right, well, story number two.
This is not and this is notlike talking to Alexa, you know,
right?
What yeah?
Okay, because do you talk toyour Alexa?

Yeah, I just told my because I got the new upgrade
for the AI for Alexa, and Ijust You gave in.
I did.
Of course I did.
Of course I did.

What what makes you what what even surprises you
about?

And so do you know what?
So she actually responded tosomething, and I was like, you
know what?
Don't respond it to me thatway.
And we literally had like aconversation, and my wife says,
What are you doing?
I'm like, I said I'm having aconversation with Alexa.
When I get something done,instead of you saying, Okay,
that's been completed, I want itto say awesome, it's done.
So now she says, awesome, it'sdone whenever I ask her to do
any tasks.
So there you go.

Yeah, see, that's that's like 18 steps below what
this person is.

Yeah, that's not not the same type of level, not
the same type.
Well, story number three isTesla's advanced technology
detecting something beyond thephysical realm or is it just a
glitch?
Soft social media is a buzzwith the claims that several
Tesla owners reported that theircars, sensors, and cameras pick
up invisible human figures incemeteries.

(15:41):
Now, this is like a hot thingthat's going on right now.
If you have a friend that has aTesla, all you need to do is go
down, especially at night, butyou can still do it during the
daytime.
And you go and you walk, orsorry, you you drive and you'll
see people on your screenwalking next to your car in the
open fields.
This is so viral that peopleare making different uh items,

(16:04):
and there's lots of skepticismonline about this not being
taken care of.
Skepticism.
Skepticism, maybe skepticism.
Soon after others attempted toverify the claims.
One user said he intentionallydrove through a cemetery late at
night and saw multiple humanshapes appear on his Tesla
screen.
There was no one around, andthe display showed moving

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figures.
It was unsettling.
Another Tesla owner reported asimilar experience while driving
in a dense forest.
He said the vehicle sensorsdisplayed human-like figures
surrounding the car, despite novisible movement outside.
Phenomena has led to manytheories.
Some jokingly suggest Tesla'sautopilot can detect spirits or
negative energies.

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While everyone believes it'smerely a technical glitch,
perhaps interrupted by the car'sobject detection algorithms.
There are still some thatbelieve.
You did this, didn't you?
Was that I you did this, andyou you you got you don't own a
Tesla, but you know.
I wrote in a Tesla and I wentto a cemetery, and guess what
happens?
This actually happens when yougo by now.

(17:08):
It's probably what I think it'spicked up flowers, and it
doesn't know what the flowerobjects are on the side of the
road, per se.
Or maybe headstones, and andand tombstones and headstones
and different items that areavailable in the cemetery that
are just unique.
And I think it just displaysthe default algorithm is
probably a person.
Because if you're gonna getsued and you don't know what it
is, it probably displays aperson, but I don't know.

Ody (17:30):
When you go like that and it moves, I think in the video
you see it like spinning becausewhat the person would be.

Yes, moving back and forth, like they're walking
around.
Yeah, that would be cool.
Do you believe that they're thethe the that's I think it's
cool that's cold.

Ody (17:44):
Now, will I go out there and drive through a cemetery
with a Tesla?
No.

You should do that as you should create an Uber
driver event where you cancreate an event now where you
become the cemetery driver.
Stop.
Stop.
Okay.

Ody (17:57):
The the This is a million dollar idea.

The irony of this, the irony of this is that Tesla,
who is all about, you know,technology and stuff, discovers
that ghosts are real.

Yeah, yeah.
That could be there.

While everybody out there doing these ghost shows
and they're doing all this phonystuff is like, Well, and
Ghostbusters is that maybe theyhave the same algorithm that
Ghostbusters do to pick up me.

Yeah, that's yeah, he just crossed the street.
We're moving stuff.
Oh, wow, wow, wow.
That's there you go.
That's perfect.
All right.
Well, do you think it's a ghoststory or do you think it's
technology?

It's just artifact.
It's the same thing, it's thesame thing when you look at an
EKG and you see all this well,you won't know what it like.
You wouldn't know what it lookslike.
Keep the whimsy, Mike.
Yeah, EKG, isn't that to testyour uh your brain power?
I okay, so from a from a from anice little uh Halloween story
perspective, this was prettyfunny.

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But if you are out therebelieving that ghosts are
running around your Teslavehicle, yeah, uh, I think
again, you might need to go togo seek some therapy.

Maybe you and Alan can go and uh have a fake AI
doll.
Is that what you're saying thatyou should be doing?
Yeah, sure, whatever.
I don't know how you connect tothat, but okay.
All right, well, well, thatends our top technology stories
of the week.
When we return, Nick Espinozafrom Security Fanatics will join
the show in our annual scaryHalloween technology episode
with some of the scariesttechnology stories of the year.

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We verify the facts and do itwith a sense of humor in less
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side.

Marc Grégoire (20:34):
I thought you were a pirate, not a robot.

Oh, look at you.
Southern Comfort.

We don't really know what to say here.
Dream me up.
Please.
Please don't.

All drink of water.
Alrighty.
Okay.
Today, Mark Greguier, whiskeyconnoisseur, is back in studio.
Or we call him Southern Comfortfor today.
Mark, what have you chosen forus to drink?
Well, something to comfort ustoday.

Should be Southern Comfort, isn't it?
I don't drink Southern Comfortanymore.
That was my gateway whiskey.

If you're Southern Comfort and we drinking Southern
Comfort, just pee in ourglasses.
Wow.

Today we are drinking.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Okay.

I just had a phone.

I'll carry my Russell's Reserve private barrel
selection.
It's the Ballard Cut numberfive.
Why isn't that over here whereit belongs?

Well, because it was a part of my costume today.

Now from Russell's Reserve, they say this
is hand selected by the BallardCut.
Okay.
This private barrel selectionbourbon was distilled in October
of 2016 before aging at theTyrone campus in Rick House B.
Cherry, vanilla, clove,caramel, cola with a medium-long
finish, including nutty toffee,baking spice, pepper, and sweet

(21:54):
oak.

Oh, I taste the oak.

This is from the Kampari Group.
It was distilled by Wild Turkeyin Lawrenceburg, Kentucky.
It's straight bourbon.
It's age eight years old, 110proof, 75% corn, 13% rye, 12
malted barley, and it goes forabout $60.
Okay.
Okay.

All right.
Is it is is this a specialselection from your guy that you
have?

Yeah, this is the Ballard Cut is a whiskey bar
and restaurant in Ballard,which is in uh North Seattle.
Okay.
And this is a barrel that theyselected and distributed out to
the whiskey group.
All right.

Ody (22:34):
So you're telling me to just take off your top and turn
over to the side to pour us thisacid.

He doesn't need no.
He doesn't need to do that.

Ody (22:42):
I was hoping it'd be direct from Mark.

It is not.
I'm sorry, Odie.
I'm sorry.
He is Southern Comfort.
He's not Ballard selected.

Ody (22:51):
A girl can dream, okay?
Okay.

You don't want to, you wanna you don't want to see
how he fills up your glass.
Wow.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Well, I don't know if this is aHalloween special or soft porn
now.
Wow.
Wow.

Where did that come from?
That had nothing to do with it.
We've been drinking a lottoday.
That's what that tells you.

All right.

We're already off the rails, and it's only
what 20-something minutes in.

Look how you show it up, man.
Look how you showed up.
And Odie, Odie is Odie can'tget it back together.
She is she is cracked.
She's gone.

All right.
Well, do you oh you're gonnaneed to end your uh saying?
Oh, yes.
Okay.

Don't forget to like and subscribe.
Add a comment and drinkresponsibly, unlike what we're
doing today.
Yeah.
Because heaven can wait.
That's right.
Spark will pop.

Now, Mark, we're gonna try to engage more users.
We have a secret sound showthat we're gonna be doing or
game that we're gonna be doing.
So we got a secret sound, soeverybody's gonna have to listen
in here because I want you guysall to guess.
No one's gonna get it.
As each week we extend one moresecond onto the sound, we will
allow people to submit theseonline at techtime radio.com.
Underneath our talk back area,they put their username and tell

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us what the answer is, andwe'll take the top 10
selections.
And if anybody wins, thenthat's great.
And if not, then we'll continueon next week.
Okay.
All right, there you go.
Exciting game.
All right.
With our first whiskey tastingcompleted, let's move on to our
feature segment.
Today, our technology expertNick Espinoza is joining the
show.
Nick is an expert incybersecurity and network

(24:20):
infrastructure.
He's consulted with clientsranging from small business to
the Fortune 100 level.
In 1998, at the age of 19, Nickfounded Wendy City Networks,
which was later acquired in2015, and he then created
Security Fanatics, where he isthe chief security fanatic.
We welcome Nick to the show.

Announcer (24:38):
Welcome to the segment we call Ask the Experts
with our Tech Time Radio expert,Nick Espinoza.

All right, Nick, welcome back to the show.
Hi, Nick.
All right, look Nick is comingto us from a new bunker.
So he he he he's in the processof uh uh uh leaving maybe the
United States to move to adifferent country.
Is that right?

Nick Espinosa (25:03):
I I am I'm going to parts unknown.
Although I will say, Mark, I dobelieve you were in my
nightmares last night chasing meon the street.
So that's a new costume, by theway.

Did I catch you?
Hopefully you stop.
Oh, wow.

Okay, alrighty.
Well, welcome to the show.
That's not disturbing.
Tell us a little bit aboutyourself for any of our new
listeners.

Sure, sure.
I'm uh, as you mentioned, I'mthe chief security fanatic of
security fanatics.
Uh, we do all things forsecurity, cyber warfare, cyber
terrorism, etc.
And uh it's always happy tohang out with you guys.
And uh today I am not rockingKentucky whiskey, I am rocking
Scotch.
I got my O-Bon here.
So uh, so uh I'm joining in thefun for Halloween.

All right, fantastic.
This is our scary episode onTech Time Radio.
We do this every year.
Uh, Nick has been a part ofthis every year.
So he comes on in and we haveNick talk about all of his scary
information uh that we have.
We have so much to do today.
It's gonna be so great.
You know what?
And then Mike drinks a lot.
And he and Mike drinks, and atthe end of the show, then he
says, What the heck am I doing?

(26:07):
But you know what?
Let's start off a little bitslow.
We don't want to get tooengaged here.
So we're gonna just talk about,you know, the uh economy
numbers just came on out lastweek.
So, you know, the economy isthere's a little bit of
inflation that's happening.
But I'm kind of curious on howthe dark web economy is doing.
You know, there's differentthings that are available on the
dark web for sale.
Nick, can you tell me a littlebit about how is the dark web

(26:28):
economy doing currently rightnow?

Oh, so the uh that that's actually kind of
fun.
So let's go through some of thenumbers here because uh quite
frankly, it's gonna be prettycheap to bump Nathan off and uh
take his place when I uh makethat move in a month or two, not
that I'm planning that.
But let's let's talk about thisbecause if I want to hire a
contract killer without any kindof upsell, just get rid of
Nathan, it's gonna cost me$15,000 now in the dark web,

(26:53):
which isn't that bad.
And of course, I'm gonna needto dispose of Nathan.
So think breaking bad seasonone, you know, we'll we'll put
you in the bathtub and chemicalyou up.
That's only five thousanddollars more.
So for 20 grand, I can get ridof you, lose the body, and I'll
be the new host.

That's like a blue light special.

Just think of that.

You can take out all the people that we're gonna,
we're gonna we're gonnaeliminate you and put a put a an
AI sex bot in your place.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
There you go.

There you go.
There you go.
That that that is that is theother nightmare I had the other
week for the record, was theNathan AI sex bot.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Okay.

So with with that, of course.
I mean, if we're gonna be inthe dark webs and you know,
we're gonna be morning nativeand we're gonna have to have
some hard drugs.
I mean, who wants weak drugs,right?
And so these are actually kindof down in price right now.
Uh and basically import taxissues are causing the cost to
be lower.
Not to mention the fact ifyou're fishing in, you know,
basically the southern Caribbeanright now, you might get blown

(27:49):
out of the water, whether you'rea speedboat full of drugs or
just hanging out.
So, kids, if you're gonna goget into narcotics, you know, if
you're gonna get in narcotics,kids, it's never been cheaper
right now, but obviously don'tdo drugs.
So let's get specific.
Let's get specific here.
You want some good Colombianbam bam, it's basically five to
40 bucks per rock right now, allright.

(28:11):
You know, so not bad.
50 to 150 per gram.
So that's actually pretty good,uh, you know, in one knot.
On top of it, uh, heroin isabout $30 to 200 per gram,
depending on purity.
Angel Duster, PCP, you know, ifyou're a biker, tells Angels
I'm looking at you.
Basically, five to thirty bucksa tablet, you know.

(28:32):
So it's not bad.
And to quote the quote the darkweb directly, these are at some
of the all-time lows for someshort-term highs.

So that is that is a tagline right there.
See?
Yes, that's better.
That's better than yours.

You like Nick's tagline on that?

I like Nick's tagline.

Nick, so I'm glad we're starting out a little slow
here.

You know, it's good to know that the dark web is
booming right now.

That's right.
Well, yeah, it's it's crazydown there, but hey, you know,
it's uh, you know, if anybodyneeds links, you know where to
find me.
Don't do those kids.

Now, you know what?
We've been a little bit on thisuh episode, a little bit more
PG 13.
So speaking about PG 13, let'smove on to our next topic.
You know, ChatGPT now isbecoming a new sexting tool.
Can you explain a little bitmore about this?

Suzanne Summers.

Yeah, yeah.
So uh, I mean, the real thingis, are you ready now, Nathan,
to get your freak on with ChatGPT?
Not just Suzanne Summers, butwe can have Chat GPT probably be
Suzanne Summers at this pointas well.
So I'm personally not, youknow, I think I'm not really
interested in sexing with ChatGPT, but here we go.
Quite frankly, my AI wife andsix kids I have on anthropic

(29:45):
would be pissed.
But here's what we're actuallytalking about here.
Because in a in a post on X,aka formerly Twitter this past
Tuesday, OpenAI CEO Sam Holtmansaid that basically they're
gonna add support for matureconversations.
When they start adding theirage gating or age verification
in December.
And Altman wrote, and I quote,as we roll out age gating more

(30:07):
fully and as part of our treatadults like adults principle, we
will allow even more likeerotica for verified adults.
So I think honestly, and andyou know, Mike, I think you're
gonna be one that can probablyspeak to this better, but I
think there's some good and somebad here.
I mean, so if I'm thinkingabout the good, I mean, maybe
it's safe exploration of naughtytopics without harming anybody,

(30:30):
maybe it's mitigatingloneliness.
But I think there are probablymore downsides to this, not to
mention the fact we've alreadyseen emotional dependency on AI,
just regular AI.
Like you could literally go getan AI girlfriend.
I think there might be issueswith desensitization and
isolation and all of that, maybesome psychological distortion.
But Mike, what do you think onthat?
Because you you know betterthan anybody here.

(30:51):
Not that you're doing it.

Yeah, yeah.
No, the the the upsides aredefinitely uh completely blown
away by the downsides.
The downsides are are are verybig.
Okay.
You know, um, because you'vementioned it, it increases
isolation, it uh actuallyincreases depression rates of

(31:14):
depression, it um keeps us fromengaging uh in healthy, fruitful
relationships with other humanbeings.
There are a lot of lot ofproblems with this type of
technology being used foremotional support.

Ody (31:29):
So you're telling me Joaquin Phoenix portrayal did
not do anything accurate at all?

You mean her?

Ody (31:35):
Yeah.
He was happy there.
Yeah, okay, so telling methat's not reality?

That is not that's not reality.
That's not reality.
We we the fact that we can dothat with with just a voice on a
computer shows you how insta inhow unstable human psychology
can be, because we can take thatand and create a pair
relationship with it and uh seekintimacy through something that

(32:05):
has no ability to empathizewith us.

Wow.
Okay, well, Nick, you knowwhat?
Let's let's continue on becausewe got we're we're building up.

Yeah, let's let's talk about more scary stuff,
Nick.

All right, so satellites are linking are
leaking tons of data, includingmilitary uh data, military
locations, information acrossour world.
Explain to me and our listenerswhat is going on here.

Yeah, yeah.
So this this one is seriouslyamazing to me.
About half of geostationarysatellite signals, many of these
are carrying, like youmentioned, they're carrying
sensitive information forconsumers, for corporations,
even government communications,have basically been left
entirely vulnerable toeavesdropping.
And so a team of researchers atUC San Diego and the University
of Maryland basically revealedthis on an October 13th study,

(32:55):
and they found a ton ofencrypted data just floating
around in space.
Probably your data too.
Uh so here's some of the stuffthey found.
If you're on T Mobile'scellular network, they found
calls and text messages thatthey could eavesdrop on uh data
from airline passengers inflight.
So you're on that AmericanUnited, Delta, whatever flight,
and you're using the in-flightwireless.

(33:17):
I'm not just worried now aboutthe passengers.
That's going back and forth,sometimes unencrypted.
On top of it, we've gotcommunications to and from
critical infrastructure likeelectric, electric utilities,
offshore oil and gas platforms.
And they even picked upbasically satellite
transmissions that they coulddecode from both the US and
Mexican militaries thatbasically were talking about

(33:39):
locations of personnel,equipment, facilities.
So it ain't good.
And and to be fair, they didput this out in some, like
T-Mobile have started, you know,hardening their infrastructure,
but you know, not a week goesby where T-Mobile doesn't have
some kind of breach.
Um, so I think this isabsolutely nuts, but this is
just a snapshot of a small partof Southern California sky, and

(34:00):
these satellites are literallyall over the globe.
So you can imagine the amountof data that's out there.
That's absolutely insane.

Well, you know, speaking of surveillance, you
know.
No, no, no.
Well, it gets worse.
He's gonna add to that.
Nathan wouldn't care because hegets a free TV.
I get a free TV on my free TV.
I know we'll have to talk,Nick, about it.
Okay, so still speaking onsurveillance, let's talk about
this.
Let's now also add an Amazon.
Yeah, they would now haveintegrated their ring doorbell

(34:28):
system.
I'm sure everybody's familiarwith that.
You see commercials for thisinto the U.S.
surveillance state software.
Explain how the satellite stuffand now ring with Amazon for
footage and different aspectsfor the government to control.

You get that name?
Yeah, so yeah, yeah.
Sorry, you guys are breaking upon me just a little bit.
But yeah, let's talk about thisone.
And I want to start with mydefault mantra here, which is
cybersecurity is agnostic topolitics, but we're not immune
from it.
And Amazon just keeps ringingthat bell every day.
So, yeah, I mean, thinkbasically through Amazon Ring,

(35:09):
allowing Flock, this AI camerasystem that law enforcement has
access to, uh, they're gonnaallow that to basically combine.
Flock is a maker of anAI-powered surveillance camera
system.
They share footage with lawenforcement, and agencies that
use Flock can soon request thatRing doorbell users share their
footage to help with evidencecollection, investigative work,

(35:30):
et cetera, et cetera.
And if you didn't know, Flock'sgovernment and police customers
can make natural languagesearches of their video footage
to find people who matchspecific descriptions.
And the kicker of the wholething is basically on the same
day that Ring announced thispartnership with Flock, the 404
uh media reported that ICE, theimmigration customs enforcement

(35:52):
and the Secret Service, as wellas the Navy, had access to
basically Flock's network ofcameras.
And so by partnering with Ring,Flock could potentially be
giving access to millions ofmore footage and millions of
more cameras to basically ICE,the Secret Service, and the Navy
as well.
And Ring has a terrible,terrible track record uh

(36:12):
basically of anti-privacy, ofsurveillance.
They were caught basicallyallowing thousands of uh you
know employees across the worldaccess American footage.
One of their, I think it was avice president, was caught just
going into his like ex's uh, youknow, ring doorbell to see who
was coming and going from herhouse.
I mean, they intentionally wereunencrypting it so it'd be
easier to dynamine and sell.

(36:33):
It's it's a whole mess.
And I am not a fan at all ofring doorbell.
And so if you've got a ringdoorbell, you can potentially be
be become part of this muchlarger surveillance state that
obviously ICE and all of theothers are using right now.
So again, we're agnostic topolitics here, but we're
definitely not immune from it.
I think it's absolutely crazy.
How Orwellian is that Orwellianindeed.

Orwellian, yeah.
That means uh in like 1984.
Yeah, remember that?
Yeah, big brother.
Yep.

So so we have satellites with unencrypted data
while I'm flying on my plane.
My ring doorbell back to the myring doorbell that I have so
that everybody comes on in hereand now tracks everything that's
going on in in my personal lifeto and from the doors.
Um, so you so you know what?
I you know what?
I I think uh we may have to belike Mike today.

(37:26):
You know, I want to be likeMike and just go and turn it all
off, Mike, and so that with noworries.

Yeah, let's just grab a bottle and go and hang
out with our chat GPT stuff.

Okay, okay, all right.
Last but not least, theyalready came and got Mark, so
that's right, Mark's gone.
The Southern Comfort is beingsqueezed out of him right now.
Now, let's talk about some bituh or some blockchain concerns
for people that are using this.
So you may have a Bitcoin, youmay have Litecoin, you may use
different blockchaintechnologies to transfer your

(37:57):
information for securitypurposes and encryption and back
and forth.
What is going on withblockchain for those that are
maybe dipping into this space,Nick?
What should they be worriedabout?

Yeah, yeah.
So this one actually, I mean,honestly, you gotta love
innovation, right?
Even if it's malicious.
But hacking groups have foundbasically a new and incredibly
inexpensive way to distributemalware, and they're basically
using blockchains, publiccryptocurrency blockchains.
And so basically, in a recentpost, members at Google's uh
threat intelligence group saidthat basically they have a

(38:29):
technique that they'vediscovered where these hackers
are using or creating basicallytheir own what are known as
bulletproof hosts.
Now, a bulletproof host isbasically just a cloud platform
that uh is essentially immunefrom takedowns by law
enforcement, et cetera, etcetera.
And so here's the nuts andbolts of what's happening.
And so, heads up, cryptotraders.
Um, this method is known asether hiding.

(38:50):
Essentially, what it does is itembeds malware into smart
contracts, which are essentiallyapps reside on blockchains for
Ethereum and othercryptocurrencies.
And so two or more parties thenenter into this agreement
spelled out in the contract.
And when certain conditions aremet, the apps basically enforce
the terms in a way that atleast theoretically is immutable

(39:11):
and independent of any centralauthority.
And so there's a wide array ofadvantages to basically ether
hiding over more traditionalmeans of delivering malware
because the decentralization ofa blockchain prevents takedowns
of these malicious contractsbecause there are mechanisms
built into the blockchains thatprevent the removal of that kind
of stuff.
Transactions on Ethereum areeffectively anonymous, so it's

(39:34):
really good at hiding youridentity if you're a criminal
jerk.
Uh, retrieval of malware fromcontracts leaves no trace in any
kind of like event log.
So forensically, it's hard tofind.
So it's great for stealth.
And you can update maliciouspayloads at any time.
And again, you've got all ofthis anonymity, and it's dirt
cheap too.
It costs basically less than $2US per transaction on the

(39:57):
blockchain here, which is a hugesavings in terms of basically
trying to spin up, you know,servers and infrastructure or
take it over at like abulletproof host.
And so this is, I think, gonnabe the future of delivery of a
lot of malware, and theblockchain really lends itself
to that anonymity and securitythat essentially ensures the
malware can never go away.
So it's absolutely nuts.

All right.
Well, you know, Nick, we wantto thank you so much for being a
part of the Halloween special.
Uh, we're gonna tell listenershow can they connect with you
before we close out the show?
Where what's the best way toreach you?

Yeah, yeah.
You can find me on LinkedIn atslash Nick Espinoza, or you can
follow me on you know Twitter,Blue Sky, which is still a
thing, and and all of the othersat uh at Nick A E S P.
Or you can see my ideal YouTubevideos on slash Nick Espinoza.
Thanks for and thanks forhanging out.
I always appreciate it.

Hey Nick, see you later.
You're always the best guy andnever want to hear from.

This is why we drink, Mike.
This is why we drink.

All right, well, that ends our segment.
Ask the expert with Nick.
Up now we have Mike'smesmerizing moment.

Announcer (41:08):
Welcome to Mike's mesmerizing moment.
What does Mike have to saytoday?

All right, Mike, let me tell you, what of these
stories scares you the most?
So we just had Nick on.
What is gonna be the most?

Uh I don't know if any of them scare me anymore.
They just they just exist.
But uh what what is theconcerning ones that concern me?

Yeah.

Oh, every one of them.
Every one of them?
Yeah.
Okay.
We can't we are getting towhere we can't we can't do
anything without being monitoredby something.

Okay.

Right?
We can't we can't walk out ofour house, we can't walk next to
uh a parking lot, we can't uhYou're on camera.
We're on camera all the time.
Now we have interactions withuh fake AI that can you know
mimic human stuff, and whichI've said before, if we're going
to apply human stuff to uh AIis uh technically psychopathic

(42:08):
because it has no ability to beempathetic.
Okay.
Right?
So we're we are harmingourselves.
Yeah, so just about everything,huh?
Uh just about everything, yeah.
I I I you know how much I Iwonder why I do this show,
because uh all these AI uh itjust to be clear, it's never the
it's never the technology thatconcerns me the most.

(42:30):
Okay.
It's how people use thetechnology.

That makes sense.

Okay.
So when I go off on these thesehuge tangents about how crazy
this is, this isn't because thetechnology exists, it's because
the people who created it thecreated it for these these uh
specific purposes, and we don'tunderstand what we're doing.

That makes sense.

And when we don't understand what we're doing, we
tend to abuse it.
That's true.

So you can make an AI doll.
There you go.
Well, thank you for thatmesmerizing moment.

I don't uh are there gonna be Suzanne Summers
uh ads, you know, bots of botsavailable for people to buy.

They all look identical, just like I don't
know.

That would that I think that's probably the next
step.

All right.
Well, we have up next we havethis week in technology, so now
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Announcer (44:30):
And now, let's look back at this week in technology.

Arrr.
It was a dark night in October,the 27th of the year 1980.
Something eerie began to creepthrough the ARPNE, the ancestor
of today's internet.
There wasn't just any networkat that time.
The ARPNET was agovernment-built system that
lets computers talk to eachother by breaking messages into
tiny packets and sending themacross the country like a

(44:57):
digital puzzle piece that wasdesigned to survive disasters.
But this night it met one.
Suddenly the network's vitalnodes called IMP started
dropping like vibes.
Phones rang off the hook.
At the network control center,engineers reported ghostly error
messages and brokenconnections.
A rogue software processawakened by a freak hardware

(45:20):
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with an endless appetite.
It flooded the network with amalformed routine update, a
message meant to guide traffic,but instead led it into chaos.
Evenly freshly rebootedmachines were infected at the
moment they rejoined the hauntednet.
The IMPs could only keep theirlines up so long before they

(45:41):
could say hello to each other.
Essentially, this was a uh fixwas really simple, but it was
really scary at the time tothink of this digital nightmare
revealed a chilling truth.
Even the most reliant systemscan unravel in an unexpected
strike.
And at the time the hauntedOctober day, the ARPNET showed
us that the internet can go downand can cause problems.

(46:04):
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The segment we've been waiting all week for.

All right, Southern Company.
I'm back.
All right.

How you doing?
I'm doing great on today.
Just a little before Halloween.
He's missing a few fingers.

He's missing a few fingers.
Was that what happened?

There you go.
There you go.
All right.

You can just stroke it.

Yeah, stop playing with that, Mark.
What are we celebrating pork incontrol?
You know what?
What are we celebrating?
What are we celebrating today?
Not Chat GPT.
Uh all of the uh privacyinvaded issues.
No?
Some hints.
Oh, oh yeah, Snickers satisfiesyou.
Some chocolate?
Are we National Chocolate Day?

It is.
It's National Chocolate Day.

This is a couple days before Halloween.
That's a coincidence, isn't it?

And I can pass these down if you want to open
these and break some off becauseI'm going to tell you why.
Oh, is it a good idea?
Well, let me tell you abouttoday first.

Okay.

Today is nothing short of a special tribute to
mankind's greatest culinaryinvention.
Sorry, pizza.
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It can elevate the mostluxurious dessert or satisfy
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For a truly heavenlyexperience, reach for chocolate
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(48:20):
The rich, complex flavor isworth it.
Though let's be honest, this isprobably a little too refined
for Nathan's palate.
That's why I brought the cheapsugar stuff.

You gonna bring me some real chocolate?

Do you like dark chocolate?
I do.
What?

That's good.

Wow.
I am surprised and pleasantlypleased.
Now, nothing goes better withRussell's Reserve.

Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
Continue it on.
I I'm just your cork moved.

I did.
I was a little surprised there.
Just the way we do the whiskey.
I thought for sure he did notlike dark chocolate.
But hey, Russell's Reserve,nothing goes better with this
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(49:33):
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Anybody remember where that'sfrom?
Aneta level.
Whole nother level.
That's before your time.

Is that uh Eddie Murphy?

No.
Other other comedy sketch show.
Uh In Living Color?
No.
Close.

Mad TV?
There you go, bingo.
In Living Color was like thebest.
That was an awesome show.
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(50:22):
Alright.
Homie don't play that.

That's doing quotes.
That's an old reference.
Okay.
You know who homie is?
Homie the Clown?
Homie the Clown.
You don't know who Homie theClown is?

Ody (50:36):
I don't know who Homie the Clown is, but I know Homie Don't
Play that.
I never remember the couple ofthings.

You need to Google that.
Wow.

Ody (50:43):
Oh well, the young girl doesn't know what the old thing
is.

How was the whiskey before, and then how is
it with the chocolate?

Oh, with the chocolate is A plus thumbs up.
But before that, it was thumbsup too.
Yeah, you saw him eat thechocolate and then slam the
drink.
That was fantastic.
That's what you should.
I should be doing that everysingle time I have whiskey.
What slam in it?
No, I have chocolate, yeah.
That should be, I should addthat.

Yeah, because that's what you need.

You know, you need more chocolate in your life.

Carmelo over here.
I want to.
All right.

Whiskey and technology are such a great
pairing, like Scooby-Doo and theghost hunting group from the
Mystery Incorporated.
Really?
Did you need to explain that?
Yes.
Let's prepare now forScooby-Doo and the Mystery
Machine.
Yeah, let's prepare for ourtechnology fail.
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(51:35):
Congratulations.
You're a failure.

Announcer (51:39):
Oh, I failed.
Did I?
Yes.
Did I?
Yes.

What's going on?
This technology fail comes tous from Alaska Airlines.
As we had an experience of anoutage by one of our independent
people.
Can we skip this story?
No.
Mark, tell us a little bitabout what happened to Alaska
Airlines last week as anationwide grounding stopped due
to a technical outage.
Now, you last week you wereactually at the airport, right?

(52:04):
I was.
Explain this to everybody, allthe listeners.

Oh my goodness.
Well, I'll take tell you theshort story because it goes on
almost 24 hours.
Okay.
Oh, 24 hours on an outage.

An IT outage.

Well, well, not for the IT outage wasn't 24
hours, but by the time when Iwas supposed to leave, by the
time I finally got home, it wasabout 24 hours.
Oh my word.
Tell me what happened.
So basically, we're sitting onthe plane.
We were just about to pullback.
Everybody was there.
Doors were locked, and all of asudden they said they had an IT
outage on one of their systems.
I believe it was the weight andbalance system where they need

(52:38):
that data before taking off, howthe plane, how much fuel, all
that kind of calculations.
Because nobody does that byhand anymore.
And uh it just went down.
So we missed getting out byabout five to ten minutes.
Five to ten minutes.
So we sat on the plane for afew hours because they didn't
know whether it's a five minute,you know.
IT, they always the big thingthey kept saying at the airport
is, well, we don't know how longit's gonna take.

(52:58):
We don't have to submit thatticket.
Yeah, it's not like uh abroken.
Hello, can I help you?
Yeah, yeah.
Every time I've been on aplane, they always have an
estimate how long it takes.
It's like if something's brokenon the plane, it's they have it
all stats.
But IT, as we know, it could befive minutes, it could be a
day, who knows?

Okay, so you still have to get it.

So finally they let some of us get off if we
wanted.
I decided to get off, getsomething to eat.
Okay.
They finally deboarded the restof the plane.
We all waited there.
Finally, they said they thinkthey have the system fixed.
That was about four hourslater.
And then this is grounded notjust where I was in Arizona, but
this grounded every nationwideAlaska Airlines in Horizon, too,

(53:38):
because they're on the samesystem.
We got back on the plane, theysaid it's good to go.
Everybody's back, they shut thedoor, about to pull back, and
they're like, Oh, a subsystemjust went down.

Oh no.

So we gotta get that up.
So then they had more sex, andthen just about we're about to
pull down, it hits uh, I thinkit was like five, six hours
later.
Yep.
The pilot's time had run out.
So they're they have stricttimes they can fly, and so that
crew could no longer fly, and socanceled the flight.

Yeah, that happened that happened to me back in
2022.
And then the next two.

Yeah, the next day is just a mess.
I got rebooked on the next day,8 a.m.
went to spend a night at ahotel, come back to take off,
and that flight got canceled.

Oh, whoa, okay.
Why was that?
Because it still wasn't up andrunning?

No, it was up and running, but they were
trying to add flights.
Um, I think a lot of it had todo crews weren't weren't in the
right place for the next day.
Because just, you know, withevery flight being canceled,
they couldn't get every flightback in the air the next day,
also, because not just becausecrews couldn't make it, they
weren't in the right locationsand they had too much capacity.
Okay.
Um to it on the airline.

(54:42):
So that got so finally ended uptransferring to Delta and uh
taking off a little later thatday.

They said over almost 50,000 passengers had
their travel plans disrupted.
You were one of those 500.
I was one of those.
All right.
Well, I guess this tells you uhAlaska Airlines needs to update
their entire IT infrastructure.
Well, they did come on outsaying it was not a cyber attack
and it did not have anyproblems with Hawaiian Airlines.
So I guess if you were flyingwith them, you would have been

(55:08):
fine.
But the equipment manufacturedby a third-party supplier was
installed in the data center andit failed.
Yeah, it's not their fault.
It was that they bought a pieceof hardware that was installed
in the data center.
So they don't want to do it.

What are they doing installing it in the
middle of the day?
Well, I I see this is the wholepast of it in the middle of the
night when nothing's flying.

It's bad IT.
Bad IT.
That's well, maybe they justdon't operate in that time.
But it looks like it didn'taffect your sanity at all.

Well, I I I was happy.
I got to drive in a Waymo.

Okay.
How was the Waymo?
Oh, it was awesome.
Okay, you had a great time withthat.

I had a great time with the Waymo.

Okay, did you go that couple times in the Waymo,
like there and back?

No, I just did one Waymo.
Okay.
Did you spin around a parkinglot for an hour?
I did not.
Oh, that's too good.
I was looking forward tosomething crazy like that, but
no, it drove nicely.
It was uh better than most ofthe drivers I had.
It was clean, nobody talked tome.
I didn't have to tip.
And it was a cheaper ride.
They knocked a few bucks offbecause it was because of that.

Okay, now you're starting to sell me on the Waymo
thing.

Yeah, you don't have to talk to anybody.

I don't have to talk to anybody on the ride to
leave a tip.

All right.
Well, you know what?
Let's now move into our NathanNugget.

Announcer (56:19):
This is your Nugget of the week.

All right.
Do you have a you know what?
You got a Snicker bar righthere, right?
You need to keep this Snickerbar right next to your passenger
seat because if you're drivingand you get pulled over with
your cell phone as a distracteddriver, which you shouldn't do,
it seems to be that if you saythat you are eating a candy bar,
this happened to a 30-year-oldwho was stopped by local police

(56:44):
holding his phone while driving.
He received a fixed penalty,but he did not pay it.
He decided to appear in courtand say that he was having a
candy wrapper and that it wasnot an actual phone.
The judge decided to dismissthat since they had no evidence.
And he did have the uh candywrapper shown to the police and

(57:04):
got off that ticket.
So, you know what?
With all your your candy forHalloween, save those wrappers,
put them in your uh passengerseat.
Are you driving?
You can then say that you werejust having a candy bar.

Okay, I wouldn't rely on too much of that because
you can still get pinged fordistracted driving for having
food.

Do we have to make a disclaimer this is not
legal advice?

That's not legal advice.

I'm not a lawyer.
This is a Halloween episode, soprobably please don't do that.

Nathan, Nathan.

He did say that he was using a Mars bar, though.
So I mean that was pretty good.
I mean, he was very specific onwhat he was having for candy.

Is that is that necessary?
Do you like Mars Bar?
That that has no bearing on thestory at all.

Well, yes, it does.
He said he was eating a Marsbar at the time.
Okay, okay, for one, for one,all right.

This guy hired a lawyer to go and talk about a
traffic fine.

Yeah.

And to convince a judge that he was eating a candy
bar.

Yes.

Is that an adequate or an appropriate response to
getting a ticket for holdingyour phone?

No, you should just do what Nathan does and just
pay the ticket immediately.
Go online and just pay it.
Just pay for the ticket.
You caught me.

Or better yet, stop using your phone while you're
driving.
That's a good idea.

But you know, that's never gonna happen.
That's a good idea.
You know what?
Now let's move to our pick ofthe day whiskey tasting.

Announcer (58:26):
And now our pick of the day for our whiskey
tastings.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop.

All right.
What do we have here, Mr.
Southern Comfort?

We are drinking Russell's Reserve Private Barrel
Selection, the Ballard Cutnumber five.
So it's an eight-year straightbourbon from Wild Turkey.
110 proof, $60.

I'm giving it a thumbs up and one hookup.

Okay, whatever.
You sound like a freaking hounddog laying on the porch.
What'd you say, Mike?
Uh, I didn't say that.
Are you gonna give it a thumbsup?
Uh, yeah, I'm gonna give it athumbs up because it tastes good
with or without the chocolate.
Okay, well, there you go.
These are always delicious.

We're just about out of time.
We want to thank our listenersfor joining the program.
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Are you ready for this, Odie?
Here we go.
Our secret sound.

Announcer (59:29):
And now for our secret sound, brought to us by
Elite Executive Services.
Visit Techtimeradio.com andclick on the contact page to
submit your answer.
Odie, play that sound.

All right, did everybody hear that sound?
Do you think you know what thatis?
Oh, that's what you have to do.

You have to submit what it is.

Yeah, you need to go visit us online at techtime
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Click on the contact page, andthe top ten people, the first
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Type in you have to type inyour name, you have to type in
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(01:00:14):
more of that sound.

Marc Grégoire (01:00:15):
Do I get it?
I have no idea.
I wasn't part of this.
Do I get to say a hint?

Nathan Mumm (01:00:18):
Sure.
Why don't you what's a hint?
No, what's your Chris?

Marc Grégoire (01:00:21):
I would put down a pinball machine.
Oh, okay.

Mike Gorday (01:00:23):
Okay.
All right.
What would you put, Mike?
I was gonna say pinballmachine, but I didn't know we
were guessing because this is athis is for the listeners.

Listeners, uh Odie, what do you think it is?

Ody (01:00:32):
I would also say a pinball machine.

Okay, you know what?
I would say our you guys arenot even close yet, but thank
you for your guess.
Okay.
All right, there you go.
So that should help everybodyknow that it is not a pinball
machine.
So there you go.
You need to be specific on whatit is, and once you choose
that, you'll winner.
All right.
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We're out of time.
We want to thank our listenersfor being a part of the show.

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