Your Wi‑Fi might be your biggest blind spot, and we’re putting it under a bright light. We dig into the push to ban TP‑Link in the U.S., what “firmware callbacks” really mean, and the simple, concrete steps that actually harden a home network: changing default credentials, updating firmware at least yearly, enabling WPA3, and leaning on MFA to shut down credential theft. No scare tactics—just the playbook that keeps real people safer.
From there we pull the thread on attention economics in the oddest place: public restrooms. In parts of China, you now scan a QR code and watch an ad to get a ration of toilet paper or pay a few cents to skip it. Officials call it anti‑waste; users call it sponsored dignity. We unpack why this matters beyond bathrooms, and how “rewarded attention” business models creep into public infrastructure when no one’s looking.
We also put a $20,000 humanoid robot under the microscope. Neo can open doors and flip switches, but it relies on remote human operators for the hard stuff—folding laundry, loading dishes, organizing shelves. That’s not autonomy; that’s telepresence with great PR. We talk costs, privacy, and whether you’re paying to be a beta tester while the AI learns on your dime. If you want actual help today, a local cleaner still wins on speed, cost, and accountability.
Scam fighters, this one’s for you: a convincing QuickBooks “relationship manager” email that funnels to a Calendly form harvesting bank details, and a fake invoice attachment that mimics a Microsoft 365 login to steal your password before opening your inbox so you don’t suspect a thing. We show you the red flags and the countermeasures—verify domains, never type creds from an email, use a password manager, and lock in MFA.
We round out with a quick look at Apple’s iOS keyboard bug and AirPods static, a throwback to the Morris Worm’s chaotic lesson on unintended consequences, and a preview of police cruisers that launch drones for aerial patrols. Plus, our whiskey semifinal, banter, and a secret sound challenge to test your ear.
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Whiskey tasting far sele to seeif it gets zero, one or two
thumbs up at the end of theshow.
It looks like we're in a uhsemifinal playoff here on which
uh whiskey we like.
So I gotta make sure I choosethe right one this time.
Or the one I like.
Mike Gorday (02:29):
You know, it's based on which glass it is for
no, not really.
Nathan Mumm (02:32):
It's it's it's always the best taste.
But you know what?
Let's get right into theheadlines of the world of
technology.
Announcement (02:40):
Here are our top technology stories of the week.
Nathan Mumm (02:43):
All right.
The U.S.
is looking to block TP Linkrouters, and we're gonna talk
about why you should replacethem now.
But before that, let's go toLisa Walker for more on this
story.
Announcement (02:55):
Could your Wi-Fi router be a national security
risk?
The U.S.
government is urging a totalban on TP Link, one of the most
popular router brands inAmerica.
With over 300 internetproviders issuing TP Link
devices, this move could shakeup millions of households.
Is this threat real?
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Or just political posturing?
For me personally, I havereplaced my TP Link items, but
let's get the experts' analysis.
Back to you guys in the studio.
Nathan Mumm (03:28):
Alright, here we go.
T P Link.
Do you have a TP link device atyour house?
Me?
Yeah.
Mike Gorday (03:33):
No.
Nathan Mumm (03:33):
Okay.
Mike Gorday (03:34):
At least I don't think so.
Nathan Mumm (03:35):
You don't think so?
What type of router do youhave?
Do you have a Nighthawk?
Mike Gorday (03:37):
I I have whatever, you know, Xfinity gives you.
Okay, okay.
Nathan Mumm (03:42):
They don't give you a TP link, so that's at least
better.
Okay, all right.
Well, the US government isinching closer to banning TP
link routers, citing nationalsecurity concerns.
According to the WashingtonPost report, more than half a
dozen federal agencies,including the Commerce, Defense,
and Justice, now support theproposal.
Now, TP Link Systems productspose a security reeks because
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they handle sensitive Americandata and may still be influenced
by the Chinese government.
TP Link was founded inShenzhen, China, and has since
split into two entities, TP LinkSystems, now based in Irvine,
California.
And they deny any foreigncontrol that is currently
happening.
They say no foreign country orgovernment, including China, has
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access or control over thedesign of the production of our
products.
Um but the allegations,investigation, and market
dominance, TP Link has rise tobe a historical number one
router sale device.
In 2019, it had about 20% ofthe router market.
Today it's disputed at anywherebetween 65 to 70 percent of the
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market.
Now, the Department of Justiceis also investigating the
company for alleged predatorypricing.
TP Link usually um has a degreeof vulnerabilities that require
with Chinese law, and it seemsto be that the lawmakers who
wrote laws for China laws beingconcerning are no longer
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adhering to them.
Cybersecurity experts aredivided between um if the risk
is real or if it's just kind ofbeen made up.
But here's what we got going onhere.
The CEO of NetRise has foundthat in the TP link firmware
there are actually callbacksthat it sends information back
to China.
Now, cybersecurity experts saythe real concern isn't just TP
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links, it's all routers ingeneral.
Most of them uncover once youput a router into your place,
most people don't upgrade thefirmware.
Now, do you have you upgradedyour firmware for your modem
from Comcast?
Am I supposed to do thatmanually?
Uh yes.
Oh, then no.
No.
Okay.
Um I have routers around thehouse.
(05:52):
I have Cisco stuff.
I got uh routers around mybusiness, which are Cisco and uh
other devices.
I have to go up to those andhave them updated on a quarterly
basis to make sure I get newfirmware, make sure I have
things taken care of.
Most experts don't.
Tech guy.
Most experts on the Odie, haveyou ever upgraded your uh router
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at home?
Ody (06:14):
No.
And I didn't know that I neededto do that.
Mike Gorday (06:16):
Yeah, so Mr.
Tech Guy, there's the questionfor you is if you have one of
these things, how do you updatethe firmware?
Ody (06:22):
Thank you.
I was gonna ask that too.
Mike Gorday (06:24):
Okay, so it's really simple.
Nathan Mumm (06:25):
Most of the time you have to log in as an
administrator to your router.
So if you are leasing it fromComcast, do you also pay for the
security services from Comcast,or do you just rent the router
itself?
If you pay for the securityservices, it auto-updates and
they take care of it on theirside.
Okay.
Mike Gorday (06:40):
If you don't do what's that?
I believe that's what I do.
Nathan Mumm (06:43):
Okay, so you don't have to worry about it.
But if you have a standardrouter where you go and you
connect it into your main uhISP's connection, most of those
have a default admin, a defaultpassword for the admin console.
And they have the originalrouter uh software that comes on
out with that.
And most of the people thathave routers at their homes
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never update it.
The original version is allthat they ever have because it
is an administrative task to loginto it, find the IP address of
that router.
You have to log in with ausername and password, you then
have to go, and sometimes mostof them have the ability to
update them on the internetitself, so they self-update.
But some of these you actuallyactually have to have a USB
(07:25):
drive and you have to put it inthere and you have to load the
drivers and update these to keepthese safe.
Ody (07:30):
So you mentioned that you do this four times a year, every
quarter.
Nathan Mumm (07:33):
I do it every quarter.
Ody (07:34):
Would you recommend that it's done at least once a year?
Nathan Mumm (07:37):
At least once a year would be perfect.
Once a year would be perfect.
I don't think people are sayingthat that we want to have stuff
ultra.
I mean, I'm sure it'd be greatif you did it every month.
That would be fantastic.
Ody (07:47):
That's just not realistic for the average consumer.
Nathan Mumm (07:49):
Okay.
So once a year when New Year'scomes around, you know, you
change your clock or you changethis and make sure you change
your default login credentialsimmediately once you get a
router.
It shouldn't be admin with yourpassword.
You need to put in a passwordthere.
Stick it on the back of therouter.
Don't try to do some passwordthat you're gonna forget.
Just put a big, huge stickynote on inside your router.
Write it on paper.
(08:10):
Yeah, write it on paper andstick it to the router because
if somebody comes on into yourhouse and they're at your router
to get your password, you havemany other things to worry about
than that you wrote yourpassword on a piece of paper
there.
Mike Gorday (08:21):
Well, I don't know about that.
Nathan Mumm (08:22):
Use a VPN with advanced privacy features when
you're either on your network oron each of your computers.
Ensure your firewall and Wi-Fiencryptions are turned on.
Regularly update your router'sfirmware, it should be done at a
minimum of once a year.
And consider switching to aWPA3 certified router if you're
even more concerned, which ismore security that's available
there.
Mike Gorday (08:42):
Okay, listen to all this tech speak that nobody
knows about.
Nathan Mumm (08:45):
Well, no, no, no.
You have a router at home.
Number one, change your defaultpassword.
Mike Gorday (08:50):
Get it hooked up.
My my my question is not how todo this, it's uh how do you
feel about all this, Mr.
I I love TikTok, even thoughChina steals all my information.
Well, yeah.
Nathan Mumm (09:00):
So everybody is stealing information out there
now, right?
We we talk about that each andevery week.
All your information's outthere.
I might as well now just giveit to people that I know that I
kind of like it.
Mike Gorday (09:09):
Yeah, I'm just gonna go to my neighbor and give
them all my passwords.
Nathan Mumm (09:12):
I you know what?
If I like the if I like thething that I'm using, I realize
there's no privacy anymore,ever.
So I'm just gonna uh use what Ilike and keep the privacy items
out of TikTok.
Um when I'm looking at TikTok,I'm not doing anything there.
They can oh, they know that Ilike fix it stuff, they know
that I like technology stuff,and they know that I like the
NFL.
You know what?
(09:33):
That's really not gonna kill meon anything that goes on.
Okay, all right.
All right, all right.
There you go.
Protect your digital router andyour digital life.
Mike, we got story number two.
Mike Gorday (09:43):
Yeah.
Speaking of TP.
Yeah, hey, uh you do mobilegames, right?
Nathan Mumm (09:50):
Uh I I I do not anymore do mobile games.
I used to play like RoyalBattle or something like that.
Mike Gorday (09:56):
Right.
And those are those are thosethings where you have to sit
through an advertisement andstuff where you can play.
Did you like that?
Uh do I like that?
No, I don't like that.
Okay, well, guess what?
What's that?
You probably don't want tovisit China then.
Okay, why would I want to visitChina?
Okay.
Because now China is runningthis test where you have to
watch ads to get toilet paper inpublic restrooms.
(10:19):
What?
What are you talking about?
Yeah, and a move that's equalparts tech innovation and public
inconvenience.
Restrooms in parts of China aretesting new toilet paper
dispensers that require users toscan a QR code and watch an ad
before receiving a ration stripof toilet paper.
See, they're all over theplace.
(10:41):
TP Link, TP What are youtalking about?
So I go into a crapper.
You go you go into a publicrestroom, yeah, you do your
business, yeah, and in order toget the cleaning supplies you
need, you have to watch an ad.
Okay.
I think, you know, I I oftengrumble about the stuff that
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goes on here in America, butthis is one of the few times
where I, you know, I'm uh gladthat I live here.
Nathan Mumm (11:09):
You go to a public park and you have to use the
restroom, you're gonna besitting in there.
Mike Gorday (11:13):
Everybody's gonna be sitting in there scrolling on
ads.
If if this ever happens here inthe States where I have to
watch an ad just to get toiletpaper, yeah, I am destroying
every technology thing I canfind.
Wow.
Wow.
You wouldn't do that?
No.
No.
I think that's ridiculous.
Nathan Mumm (11:32):
So what happens if I I I got so many okay, keep on
going on.
I have so many questions in mymind right now.
Mike Gorday (11:37):
I just got to if you don't want to endure a few
seconds of promotional content,you can pay for a direct
dispense of toilet paper.
So I mean there is Which is itit comes to about seven cents US
dollars.
Nathan Mumm (11:51):
Or a little strip of a little stuff.
Mike Gorday (11:53):
Or a strip of toilet paper.
Nathan Mumm (11:55):
How much is that strip?
Is that like a single ply, twoply, three ply?
I don't I don't I don't know.
Is that a hand wrap?
Is that three sheets?
Mike Gorday (12:01):
I think you're asking questions you should be
directing towards China.
Maybe you should, you know, geton your TP link and and ask
them.
What happens if you have ablowout?
Nathan Mumm (12:11):
I mean, could you be there like an hour?
Ody (12:13):
I don't know how I brought this up that you just it in case
you don't need to do like morethan with the little toilet
paper, you just stay and watch abunch of ads and ration it out
for next time.
Nathan Mumm (12:25):
For next time.
For next time.
So they can take some TP homewith you in your pocket.
Yeah, yeah.
Ody (12:29):
Well that wouldn't be a po or better yet, bring your own TP
wherever you go.
Nathan Mumm (12:36):
Okay.
Okay.
Ody (12:37):
Buy your own roll and just walk around with a room.
Nathan Mumm (12:39):
Just walk around.
So in your backpack that you'recarrying from here on out, you
now have a little bit of roll.
Okay.
Mike Gorday (12:46):
All right.
Tell me municipal officials inChina say the system is designed
to curb waste, especially inhigh traffic areas where paper
hoarding has been a persistentissue.
Nathan Mumm (12:57):
Odie just told you how to be hoarded up even more.
Mike Gorday (13:00):
Yeah, Odie just Odie just uh game that system.
Okay.
The machines are equipped withoptical scanners and connect to
ad platforms via low-powerwireless modules serving
localized video content.
It's a digital evolution ofBeijing's 2017 facial
recognition dispensers, whichlimited paper access to once
every nine minutes.
(13:21):
So if you have a bad day, ifyou had a bad if you had a bad
day, you would have to sit therefor nine minutes before you got
used to it.
Nathan Mumm (13:31):
So I don't use public restrooms very often.
And if I use it, it's thatmeans it's kind of like an
emergency.
That's right.
So that means everything that Ido on the public side of stuff,
I could be in there forliterally an hour if I had an
issue.
And and and then what if I havea job or have to head someplace
else?
And it's like, why are youlate?
It's like, well, because Icouldn't watch enough ads to get
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toilet paper to be here ontime.
Mike Gorday (13:53):
I don't know why you're asking me these questions
because I'm just bagging on it.
Okay.
So supporters supporters arguethat the ad-based system is
easier to deploy than the facialrecognition system.
Okay.
Remember, these are twodifferent systems that they're
run.
Nathan Mumm (14:08):
So sometimes they see my face and scan my face for
toilet paper, and sometimesthey'll watch you watch ads.
Mike Gorday (14:13):
Okay.
Critics, however, aren't buyingit, at least not without a full
battery and mobile data.
Social media reactions havebeen scathing with one user
equipping toilet paper in Chinanow requires watching ads.
Dignity is no longer free.
It's sponsored.
The trial has sparked broaderdebate about the
commercialization of publicinfrastructure.
What began as a solution topaper theft now feels like many
(14:37):
to be a microcrans transactionfor basically?
So it's like a video game.
Yeah, we have turned we haveturned toileting into a video
game.
You have to you have to youhave to pay to win.
Okay.
Let's be honest, if yourbathroom break starts with a
toothpaste commercial and endswith a ration square, you might
start questioning your choices.
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One can only hope the ads areth thematically appropriate.
Imagine watching a luxury carad while waiting for two play.
Nathan Mumm (15:09):
So I'm watching a Lexus ad, experience the
excitement, and I'm like, hurryup, hurry up, get through these
ads.
I don't know.
Mike Gorday (15:16):
Yeah, it's like yeah.
Lexus.
All right.
The finer points ofawesomeness.
Nathan Mumm (15:24):
Oh boy.
Mike Gorday (15:26):
Oh, okay.
All right.
Nathan Mumm (15:28):
Story number three.
Uh maybe I'm glad that yourstory was story number two.
Maybe we should perfect.
Mike Gorday (15:34):
Yeah, it was that's right.
Maybe we should go to an adbefore we move on to story
number three.
Nathan Mumm (15:39):
All right, story number three.
Neo, the 200, the 20,000 Kworkhorse robot in your living
room.
Yeah, this is yeah.
Ah, we have different opinionson this.
Meet Neo, the humanoid homerobot from California-based 1x
technologies, is now availablefor pre-order.
Designed to tackle everydaychores.
Neo can open doors, fetchitems, flip light switches all
(16:01):
on its own.
But there's a twist.
The more complex tasks likefolding laundry, organizing
shelves, Neo relies on remotehuman teleporters who guide it
in real-time VF VR.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Mike Gorday (16:14):
Okay.
Nathan Mumm (16:15):
Now owner staying control.
Mike Gorday (16:16):
So wait, wait, wait.
You need to explain that thisis a fully humanoid robotic
creation.
For 20K.
For $20,000.
$20,000 one-time payment.
It looks like something youwould see on a movie.
Yeah.
It's about what, five feettall?
Something like that?
Nathan Mumm (16:34):
Uh yeah, it was about five feet tall.
It looks like a it's a prettygood uh looking robot.
It it looks like something thatyou would see in a sci-fi
movie.
It's got fully posable hands,which means you got all your
fingers, digits, and thumbslooking graphics.
Mike Gorday (16:48):
Alexa with a body.
Nathan Mumm (16:49):
Was that?
Yeah.
And what this does is thisworkhorse robot will clean for
you, take care of your housewhile you're gone at work, and
do everything you need to for20K.
Mike Gorday (16:59):
Except you have to have a human hooked up to it
somewhere else running virtual.
Nathan Mumm (17:06):
Because they don't have the systems in place.
They have a VR headset thatcomes on.
Mike Gorday (17:11):
Do you realize what you're saying, right?
You realize that you are buyingyou are buying a piece of
equipment to clean your house,yeah, and somebody has to do it
for you.
So it's basically hiring amaid.
So it's hiring a maid.
Yeah.
Nathan Mumm (17:24):
For 20K.
Mike Gorday (17:24):
For $20,000.
Forever.
I'm sure there's a I'm surethere's a I'm sure there's a
subscription.
Nathan Mumm (17:31):
No, there it's not.
I looked it up.
There's just a one-time fee for$20K.
No?
Mike Gorday (17:35):
Okay.
So it's not a it's not a it'snot a plus deal.
It's not a plus deal right now.
Nathan Mumm (17:40):
Nope.
Now, just owner state controldo a scheduling app.
Now, I did look at it.
You cannot have it run 24 by 7.
It'll only work up to eighthours a day.
Mike Gorday (17:50):
So you have to schedule your maid visit.
So you got well, you gottaschedule the time.
Yeah, because you need to getyour robot, your robot human
companion to power it.
Nathan Mumm (17:58):
Yeah, well, yeah, you know what?
The goal is to train Neo's AIto eventually handle tasks solo
using real-world data from earlyadopters.
Okay, it's a bold step forward.
It's either $499 a month, oryou can pay the full thing up
front at $20K.
Mike Gorday (18:13):
Okay.
All right.
Nathan Mumm (18:13):
Just don't expect it to cook dinner yet.
That's the only thing I want todo.
I so would you want a robot.
Mike Gorday (18:19):
I'm pretty sure there are a lot of things it
won't do, but you know.
Nathan Mumm (18:22):
So would you want a robot running around your
house, even if it was a guy insome studio in California that
has to pick up your dishes, foldyour clothes for 20K?
No.
Dude, that sounds like a stealof a deal.
Mike Gorday (18:35):
Yeah, okay.
Just think of a way.
Yeah, if we if we think if wetalk if we talk completely about
time per hour, how much is howmuch is $20 or two $20K uh in uh
the hours?
So we so we broke it up, right?
Nathan Mumm (18:48):
And I I did it over a five-year deal.
It's like four dollars, it waslike four dollars an hour.
Mike Gorday (18:53):
So it's a five-year plan for four bucks an hour.
Nathan Mumm (18:56):
Uh no, I uh yes, that's correct.
Mike Gorday (18:58):
Right?
So I can get the same serviceby paying what twenty bucks an
hour for a maid to come in oncea year.
Ody (19:07):
You know, you bring up a really excellent point because
the robot doesn't really do agood job.
We watched it do load dishesinto a dishwasher.
It took forever.
Mike Gorday (19:17):
What about what about those people on the other
end that are looking at yourstuff?
Ody (19:21):
Yeah.
This is just like Amazon Go.
It's all a facade, it doesnothing, and you're overpays.
Mike Gorday (19:33):
I know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Nathan Mumm (19:35):
Well, you know, I I was very excited about it.
Now now you now you're thinkingme.
Now ODR just put me down alittle bit.
Mike Gorday (19:42):
The real question though, Nathan, is that when is
yours going to get here?
Because this is definitely aNathan buy.
It is, man.
I struggled.
I mean, the fact that the factthat you broke it down, broke it
down to hourly wages.
Ody (19:56):
Okay, wait.
Nathan Mumm (19:57):
I had it in my cart.
We did the hourly wage.
Ody (19:59):
I think it's a very reasonable price for something
that's gonna last you at leastfive years.
Oh no no, but no, no, but itdoesn't work how it should.
Mike Gorday (20:07):
You no, so this is asking you can't say that it's
gonna last five years becauseyou don't know.
Okay, all we're saying is thatwe broke it.
Nathan Mumm (20:14):
So in a couple years from now, though, if we
have a robot at this 20k pricepoint, a little C3PO or an R2D
too, I'd do that.
Ody (20:21):
That's the cheapest price I've seen for the robot.
Because how much are the Teslabots going for?
Nathan Mumm (20:26):
Uh I don't know if it's probably half a million,
but but but uh significantlymore.
So this seems to be a rocksteel price for a technology
that's out there.
Mike Gorday (20:34):
Uh yeah, this is I you know my feelings about this.
I do.
This is this is like thoseemotional support robots.
How do you feel about those?
I I think that's do you likethose when we had the lady on
CS?
This is the dumbest thing inthe world to have emotional
robot.
Somebody, yeah, an emotionalsupport robot has.
Somebody across the door that'ssomebody that's controlling the
thing outside the room so thatthe person can get emotional
(20:57):
support.
Give me a break.
Nathan Mumm (20:59):
All right.
Well, that is our toptechnology stories of the week.
Next, we dive into our lettersegment, featuring scams
submitted by listeners in somestudio selected emails.
Be sure to listen and sharethis segment with a friend.
But now we're gonna head out at88 miles per hour to head on to
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Nathan Mumm (22:05):
All right, welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan
Bum.
Our weekly show covers of toptechnology subjects without any
political agenda.
Did you get your toilet paper?
We verify the facts.
We do it with a sense of humorin less than 60 minutes, and of
course, a little whiskey on theside.
Today, Mark Gregoire, ourwhiskey connoisseur, is in
studio, and he has our monthlytradition going on.
Mark, explain this to newlisteners what we got going on
(22:27):
here.
I guess uh Mike wants to knowif you were done with uh
scrolling through your ads foruh the toilet paper.
Mike Gorday (22:32):
So yes, no no no no no you you totally missed that.
What was that?
We just went for an ad.
Yeah.
Did you get your toilet paper?
No, I didn't get my toiletpaper.
Nathan Mumm (22:41):
Oh, I get what you're saying, actually.
I get it.
Okay.
Boom, boom, boom.
Boom, boom, boom.
Marc Grégoire (22:45):
All right, Mark, what do you got?
We are doing the 2024 FlavorAdvent Calendar.
This is round three, the semis,and this is our second semis.
So we're using the 2024 FlavorWhiskey Advent Calendar.
24 remarkable whiskeys to usefor our year-long blind whiskey
competition to see which oneNathan and Mike like best.
You brushed up against Nathanwhen you were coming in here.
Mike Gorday (23:08):
That's why you can't teak.
Marc Grégoire (23:09):
So come along for the ride once every month
while they uncover new tastesand train their senses to become
true connoisseurs.
Today is round three, as wementioned, our second
semifinals, where they willchoose their winner to move on
to the finals.
If they disagree, I of coursewill be the deciding vote.
Tonight's blind battle bringstogether two heavy hitters.
(23:30):
One with a touch of old worldelegance, the other a bold
showcase of classic Americanspice.
Both bring strength, depth, andcharacter to the glass, but
only one will rise above therest.
Let's see which one takes thecake as we turn up the heat.
Nathan Mumm (23:48):
This one will take the cake.
Turns up the heat.
Mike Gorday (23:51):
Which one which one?
How many more cooking analogiescan we throw out here?
Ah, that was pretty good.
Nathan Mumm (23:56):
You know what?
I I can't wait for the 2025flavor advent calendar.
Marc Grégoire (24:02):
Yeah, we can talk about that in next year.
But right now, what are youthinking on your whiskey?
Nathan Mumm (24:06):
Uh absolutely I have one that is way ahead of
everybody.
I got one that I like and onethat I do not like at all.
Marc Grégoire (24:12):
So do you like old world elegance or do you
like American spice?
Nathan Mumm (24:17):
I bet you I like American spice.
I think it's mine's a littlebit spicier.
It's got a little uh some somespice as well.
Mike Gorday (24:22):
You like some spice in your life, do you?
I I do.
Mike, you have a favorite righthere?
Uh no, not yet.
I have one.
I have two really distincttastes, and I'm not sure which
one I like the best.
Okay.
Marc Grégoire (24:34):
Wow.
Ody (24:35):
Okay.
Marc Grégoire (24:36):
Interesting.
Well, I'll fill you in more alittle bit later.
Nathan Mumm (24:38):
Well, you know, speaking of advent calendars,
you know Red Bull just came outwith an advent calendar?
Nobody cares.
Twenty-four different flavorsof Red Bull.
Just think of that.
It's a December.
There's 24 different flavors,so there you go.
Right.
What kind of flavors does RedBull have?
Marc Grégoire (24:53):
Don't forget to like and subscribe.
Drink responsibly.
Heaven can wait and stay awayfrom the Red Bulls.
Mike Gorday (24:59):
Stay away from the Red Bulls.
I mean, the original taste ispretty gross.
What's what what is it?
Red Bull.
Red Bull with lemon.
Red Bull gets you wings.
Nathan Mumm (25:07):
All right.
Well, okay.
Mark, thank you so much.
You're welcome.
With our whiskey tastingscompleted, let's move on to the
feature segment.
Today we bring back the funnyyet informative reading of
emails that I received duringthe week.
This includes some scam fishingemails, texting scams, and all
out mistruths disguised as alegitimate email in a segment we
call letters.
Odie, are you ready?
(25:43):
What was that?
Marc Grégoire (25:44):
I think it's a leftover pirate.
Nathan Mumm (25:45):
Is that leftover pirate?
No, I was like, alrighty.
I'm drinking that whiskey.
Ody (25:51):
I wish there was a way to turn off your accents.
Nathan Mumm (25:53):
My accents?
Ody (25:54):
Yeah.
Mike Gorday (25:55):
Just like okay, let's let's let's let's make
something clear here.
Nathan doesn't have accents.
Ody (26:02):
Impression.
Mike Gorday (26:02):
He has tonal shifts that just don't work.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Oh wow.
Marc Grégoire (26:06):
Don't you have a switch where you can just turn
them off completely?
Ody (26:09):
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
Mike Gorday (26:11):
No, his human operator is on is on a different
Odie?
Nathan Mumm (26:16):
Let's uh these guys are rambling.
What do we have here for youryour email?
Who is it from?
Ody (26:20):
It's from QuickBooks support support.
Nathan Mumm (26:23):
QuickBooks support.
Ody (26:25):
But it's not from QuickBooks support.
Uh-oh.
Really.
Because it's support at QB dotexperta accounting.com.
Oh I want to trust that.
Nathan Mumm (26:35):
QB Expert Accounting.
Ody (26:36):
Yeah.
Nathan Mumm (26:37):
QuickBooks maybe got the renamed to
expertaccounting.com.
No.
Maybe.
Probably not.
But okay.
So that would be your firstwarning sign.
Ody (26:45):
Okay.
The subject says meet your newQuickBooks account manager.
Okay.
Nathan Mumm (26:49):
Okay.
Ody (26:50):
Unless I'm excited about that.
I'm not excited about that.
Nathan Mumm (26:53):
I don't use QuickBooks, but I get to meet an
account manager.
Ody (26:55):
Okay.
So it says, dear QuickBooksuser, we're happy.
No.
We hope you're enjoying the newQuickBooks upgrade and the
added convenience it brings toyour business.
To make sure the best pro blahblah blah.
Uh please schedule a meetingwith your relationship manager
today and get tailored guidancefor your business.
Schedule a callback.
Nathan Mumm (27:15):
Okay.
So you click on the schedulecallback.
Ody (27:17):
Yeah.
Nathan Mumm (27:17):
Okay, it comes on up with a link error.
So the the schedule callbackdoesn't come on up.
Ody (27:23):
So they're not trying to talk to me?
Nathan Mumm (27:24):
So it comes up with a link air.
At the very bottom of it, ithas a link to a calendarly file.
All right.
So the calendarly file is verycommonly used.
I do, I do.
So very uh it it uses the linkdoesn't work, so you can't just
take care of it.
So then all of a sudden yourcalendly file goes to schedule a
quick book expert, and theygive you 15-minute time slots.
(27:47):
Now, a lot of these places thatdo that, you you just put in
your email and your name, andthen that auto schedules a time.
This form that they have, whichyou can pay for forms on
Calendly, it asks you for yoursocial security number, your
bank number, your routingnumber, all this information
when you go to schedule themeeting, which is uncommon in
Calendly.
Normally it's just a user emailand a name, and then they'll
(28:09):
schedule you through theirclient system.
So by the time you answer 25questions on this, well, maybe
it was like 20.
You figure out what yourpersonality is.
Yeah, you get your personal,you get your Myers Briggs score
back.
No.
So you then click submit.
It schedules you a meeting, butthey never call you back and
(28:30):
they never do anything for themeeting.
They'll actually cancel themeeting invite.
What they did is they just gotyour bank information, your
existing balance, what you havegoing on for the questions to
ask.
Now, they weren't reallynecessarily evasive questions,
but they're asking you what'syour current balance of your
money and what's current.
Well, then they they ask whatbank you're banking with.
They don't they actually didn'task for account routing numbers
(28:51):
or anything like that.
They just asked where your bankis, what your current balance
is.
So general stuff that wouldreally be good for a phishing
call.
I could say, hey, I'm callingon up from Chase Bank, and I see
that you have uh $9,000 inthere.
So they're trying to harvestthe information.
Ody (29:07):
So they're setting up their next scam.
Nathan Mumm (29:09):
Correct.
So that's building up from onescam to another scam by
collecting data because data isthe key.
Ody (29:16):
Now, I will say, I feel like that seems pretty odd to
get a QuickBooks thing and thenbe sent to Calendly, and that's
where you submit all yourinformation.
Nathan Mumm (29:26):
Yeah, except for people use Calendly a lot now.
Ody (29:29):
Yeah, but would you be submitting your like filling out
a questionnaire with that?
Nathan Mumm (29:33):
It was kind of yes, it did it didn't.
Ody (29:35):
Like that's kind of an awkward kind of transition
there.
Nathan Mumm (29:38):
I uh Mike, if that happened to you, would you would
you consider that kind of alittle bit?
Absolutely not.
Okay.
Mike Gorday (29:42):
You'd fall oh you'd no, I would I would absolutely
ignore that.
Ody (29:45):
There for one ignore it or not question it.
Mike Gorday (29:48):
Ignore it.
Okay.
I would I would not open thatup in the first place.
Okay.
Ody (29:53):
Yeah, neither would I immediately.
Mike Gorday (29:55):
I mean, if if if I even had QuickBooks and I got
this and I said, Huh, I wonderwhat This is and it took me to
this page and it started to askme questions about my bank
accounts.
Yeah.
I don't think so.
Yeah.
Okay.
I mean, you for this scam towork, you have to be kind of
really deluded into uh notdeluded, but very trusting.
Nathan Mumm (30:17):
80% of businesses in the United States use
QuickBooks.
So I mean that's a pretty goodstab to throw it on out there.
Mike Gorday (30:23):
I'm talking I'm talking about the the levels of
of things you have to support inyour brain to go through this
whole process.
You have to first, you know,not ignore the QuickBooks coming
from a non-QuickBooks email.
Yep.
Then you have to ignore thefact that you have a a missing
link or an a link error.
(30:44):
Then you have to go to aCalendly thing and and uh enter
information into that.
Then you then is this where theform happens?
I was in the calendar.
So then you have to go throughthis form where they're asking
some seriously personalinformation.
Okay.
And then submit it.
So this is you have to pass onthis.
I mean, I would have to dothat.
Nathan Mumm (31:05):
Oh do you pass on this if you saw this?
Ody (31:07):
Yeah, I don't have QuickBooks.
Okay.
Specifically from the From.
Okay.
Or at Q.
The farm.
Nathan Mumm (31:12):
Marky, would you pass on this too?
No, he'd do.
Oh, we're we're experts, soyes.
Okay, that's right.
Okay.
But you know what?
It does hit people.
All right.
Mike Gorday (31:20):
Yeah.
Yeah, there were a significantamount of people that were
always fall for these types ofthings.
Correct.
Nathan Mumm (31:25):
But hopefully they listen to Tech Time Radio and
they know not to click on thelink.
What does your hat say, Mike?
Don't click on sh stuff.
Okay.
There you go.
All right.
Mark, I think you're up next.
Marc Grégoire (31:34):
I am.
I think mine uh most people outthere would pass on.
Okay.
So this is from OmniNet.io, andthey say we have an attached
invoice with a number, and youhave an amount due of zero
dollars.
So I think most people would belike, Great, I don't have to do
anything.
Throw it away.
Nathan Mumm (31:49):
Okay, okay, good.
Okay.
All right.
Marc Grégoire (31:51):
Now, of course, there's a link that you click
and they said please reference,and they give you a reference
code when they contact you,which must mean something to
them that they can attach to.
But I don't understand why theyhave a different reference
number than the actual invoicenumber.
Most people, when you call,your invoice number is your
reference number.
That would be correct.
So you made it even morecomplicated than needs to be.
Nathan Mumm (32:11):
So you get so you get an invoice asking you to
click and contact them.
It says that you owe nothing.
Somebody didn't put in theright number in the in their in
their script there.
So it says you owe nothing,then gives you a different ID
and a reference number.
So that would be your instantding ding ding ding ding.
A lot of things aren't liningup here.
Marc Grégoire (32:27):
Correct.
Plus, it's a.io, which isalways the.ios are the the the
new thing now.
Nathan Mumm (32:33):
I know, but I'm dot AI is.ai is also the big thing,
too.
You know, somebody just bought$8,000 worth of dot AI domains.
Mike Gorday (32:42):
Yeah, yeah, we know who that is.
You don't you don't have to youdon't have to obscure it by the
way.
Nathan Mumm (32:46):
Hormel, if you want your Hormel.ai, just let me
know.
5k and I'll give it to you.
All right.
Well just buy him a robot.ai.
Uh there that was alreadytaken.
It was already taken.
It was already taken.
All right, here we go.
All right.
This is uh so Mike has the bestof the items, and we did this
in our production show meeting.
So all of you guys got to seethis in action.
(33:07):
I I'm not sure why this is thebest, but well, because it was
really good.
And it and actually I don'tremember seeing this.
Mike Gorday (33:14):
It's the best because Nathan likes it.
This is the best because Nathanlikes it.
All right, who's this from?
That's from Tanya DeSilvaTrilha.
Oh, my best friend.
Tanya.trilha atcandidoMendez.edu.br.
Oh, sounds legit.
No, does it?
No.
Okay.
To Nathan Mum.
Okay.
Payment completed.
(33:34):
Oh.
Please confirm attachedinvoice.
Okay.
Good day, Nathan Mum.
Okay.
They put your whole nametogether.
I like that.
Simple and sweet.
Yeah.
We are pleased to inform youthat payment for your invoice
has been completed as instructedby our management.
Please download and review theattached invoice payment
confirmation for your reference.
(33:55):
Best regards accountsdepartment.
Okay.
Question mark, question mark,attached invoice payment.
PDF.
Nathan Mumm (34:03):
All right.
Well, let's take a look at it.
Guess what happens?
Mike Gorday (34:06):
Yeah, this is a this is a virus.
Nathan Mumm (34:09):
Well, well, no, no.
This is uh harvesting yourlogin password to a Microsoft
email account.
So here's what happens.
You click on the attachment,and it immediately pops up a
window that looks very muchsimilar to what you would get on
Office 365.
Does that mean it's really nota PDF attachment?
It's not a PDF attachment.
No PDF downloads.
It immediately goes to aexecute file, right?
(34:30):
That's correct.
It immediately goes to a linkand launches a link.
And it looks like it asks mefor my login password for
Microsoft Office.
And it already has theusername, already had been
filled out.
It's missing on the very top.
Normally you have your usernameon the top and your password on
the second line, and you clicknext.
There's no username there, butit just says enter your
password.
Now, when you type in yourpassword, whatever password
(34:52):
you're you're going to type in,that's going to go back to their
conglomerate that's going tograb that information on their
website and say that thisusername from the email, which
was Nathan Mum at Bobmail.
There you go.
It was with my email.
And it's going to associatethat link with the password that
I typed in.
Now, if I type in the correctpassword, I would be in big
trouble because now they wouldhave my username and password,
(35:15):
but I would still be Nathanwould be okay because I have
dual factor authentication.
So they couldn't actually login.
I would get an alert on myphone.
But most people, if you don'thave a dual factor
authentication enabled, whatwould happen is they'd have your
username and your password.
So when that came out for thepassword, I put in a bunch of
profanities and then hit enter.
But what was really good aboutthis is instead of saying, hey,
(35:36):
let's just go to type in thepassword again.
It didn't work.
Can you retype it back inagain?
What it did is it actuallylaunched opening up my email.
So it actually had in the codeto see if you had an Office 365
existing uh login credentials.
If so, to go to that email.
So it looked like I signed into Office 365, put in my
(35:58):
password, and had everythingthere.
So I could continue working,not even knowing anything.
But what the script did is ittook that password that I typed
in and sent it to them to try tolog in.
Pretty sophisticated.
Mike, I I I was I was prettyimpressed with this uh uh
scenario.
Marc Grégoire (36:14):
Yeah, well, you know, I I suppose from the
technical end, it yeah, thatwould be.
So what are your red flags onthis one so people can watch out
for it?
Nathan Mumm (36:24):
What's your red flag here, Mike?
Mike Gorday (36:26):
Well the first one the first red flag is just from
an educational thing.
Okay.
And it doesn't tell me w whatthis is all about.
There's no name of what yourpaid invoice is on.
It just says Good day, we yourpayment has been completed.
So it doesn't tell you whatpayment for what.
Nathan Mumm (36:45):
So maybe they were thinking that I was uh in
college in the EDU, maybe I I Iwould pay a payment.
Is that what they're thinkingabout maybe?
Mike Gorday (36:53):
Possibly, maybe if you're going to college in
Britain.
Nathan Mumm (36:57):
Okay.
Mike Gorday (36:58):
All right.
I don't know.
Ody (36:59):
That doesn't make any sense though, because they're asking
you to log into your email.
Yeah.
Nathan Mumm (37:02):
Well, they they don't actually ask you to log
into your email.
What happens is when you clickon the attachment.pdf, instead
of instead of downloading a PDF,it automatically sends me into
a script that logs me intoemail.
Marc Grégoire (37:13):
So it's isn't that a clue right there?
You should never click on anattachment.
Don't click on never click onattachment from a source you
don't know.
Stuff.
That's correct.
And if you do want to dosomething, you should do it in
like a virtual um sandbox.
Mike Gorday (37:26):
Yeah, well, here's the you know, here's the sad
thing.
This is like telemercials, youknow, those evening things.
Yeah.
You're still getting these, sothat means they're still
working.
Nathan Mumm (37:36):
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
These work all the time.
Okay, and now we know whatwe're gonna head over to our uh
segment for letters is ended.
Now let's get into Mike'smesmerizing moment.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Welcome to Mike's mesmerizing moment.
What does Mike have to saytoday?
Nathan Mumm (37:53):
All right, this is a question for the everyday
person.
Mike, how many moreadvertisement gimmicks can a
normal p person take before theyhit overload?
Yeah, that's a loaded question.
Mike Gorday (38:04):
Okay, why is that?
Because I think we've alreadyhit overload.
Okay, okay.
And the problem is not thatwe've so what we've done is we
have gotten attacked by thisstuff so much that we've begun
ignoring it.
And so the ad companies aretrying to find more ways of
getting our attention.
(38:25):
And if we if we look at if welook at this whole idea of
attention span getting shorterand shorter and shorter, that's
a direct result of all thisstupid stuff that's that we are
uh hit with every day becauseour brains just don't need well,
they don't want to handle it.
So our attention spans aredirectly related to the amount
(38:48):
of input that we're getting fromour technological society.
Okay.
Nathan Mumm (38:53):
So have we So we've already hit overload.
Mike Gorday (38:56):
Yeah, unless you're like me and you and you uh kind
of study some of this stuff andyou find it really annoying
every time there's some ad thatpops up, like like YouTube ads
really annoy me because they'realways stuff that is
unscientifically based and foryou to lose weight or get your
herring back or you know you cando uh things that get your
(39:18):
eyesight back.
It's all BS, but you know, wewe have come to accept this as
part of life.
Okay.
And we just sort of mowthrough.
Nathan Mumm (39:32):
We've hit overload, that's what Mike says.
Thank you for that mesmerizing.
Mike Gorday (39:39):
Yeah, exactly.
And that's that's that's thethat's the tragedy of all this
stuff.
I I I would love to see anational or a global revolution
where everybody comes togetherand says, Stop sending me stuff.
I don't want to see your stupidads.
I don't want it's it's likejunk mail.
You remember junk mail?
Yeah.
How much junk mail did youkeep?
Nathan Mumm (39:59):
Uh none of it.
None of it.
Mike Gorday (40:00):
You just file it immediately and yeah, so and
this was this was back when backwhen everybody was worried
about the trees and the Amazon.
Yeah.
Right?
So everybody's wasting all thispaper because companies are
buying and sending us crap thatwe don't want.
Nathan Mumm (40:17):
You know what?
I kind of would love to getmore uh real mail that was that
had the ads.
Remember those little yellowcoupon flyers and stuff?
None of that happens anymore.
Now it's all on email.
So I you know what?
I I would I would fancy to havesomething come to me in regular
mail.
All right, thank you for it.
Mike Gorday (40:31):
Floodie regular mail is where you actually have
a physical mailbox to get anumber one salute there.
Nathan Mumm (40:37):
All right, we're gonna head out for a commercial
break.
When we return, we have thisweek in technology.
So now would be a great time toenjoy a little whiskey on the
side as we're doing so duringthis break.
See you after this.
Hey Mike.
Yeah, what's up?
Hey, so you know what?
We need people to start likingour uh social media pages.
Mike Gorday (40:53):
If you like our show, if you really like us, we
should use your support onpatreon.com.
Or is it Patreon?
I think it's Patreon.
Okay, Patreon.
If you really like us, you cansay I'm the English guy?
Patreon.com.
I I butcher the Englishlanguage?
You know you butcher theEnglish language.
Nathan Mumm (41:09):
Okay, so it's all the time.
Mike Gorday (41:10):
It's patreon.
Patreon.com.
If you really like if youreally like our show, you can
subscribe to patreon.com andhelp us out.
Oh, and you can visit us onthat Facebook platform.
Nathan Mumm (41:20):
You know the one that Zuckerberg owns?
Mike Gorday (41:22):
The one that we always bag on?
Nathan Mumm (41:23):
Yeah, you can we're on Facebook too.
Yeah, like us on Facebook.
Do you know what our Facebookpage is?
Tech Time Radio.
At Tech Time Radio.
You know what?
There's a trend here.
Mike Gorday (41:33):
It seems to be that there's a trend, and that's
Tech Time Radio.
Nathan Mumm (41:36):
Or you can even Instagram with us.
And that's at Tech Time Radio.
That's at Tech Time Radio.
Or you can find us on TikTok.
And it's Tech Time Radio.
It's at Tech Time Radio.
Mike Gorday (41:45):
Like and subscribe to our social media.
Nathan Mumm (41:47):
Like us today.
We need you to like us.
Mike Gorday (41:49):
Like us and subscribe.
Nathan Mumm (41:51):
That's it.
That's it.
That's that simple.
Announcement (41:54):
And now, let's look back at this week in
technology.
Nathan Mumm (42:00):
All right, we're going back to November 2nd,
1988.
The Morris Worm.
Robert Morris of CornellUniversity launches a
self-replicating worm as a partof a research project designed
to determine the size of theearly internet.
It was intended to count thenumber of computers and initiate
connections with othercomputers.
When the worm was loaded,though, into the program, it
(42:21):
started causing some programerrors.
And the Morris worm beganrepeatedly infecting machines,
clogging network traffic andcausing machines to crash.
Eventually the worm spread to6,000 machines, which was
roughly 10% of the internet atthe time.
Causing significant downtimefor government and university
systems for two days.
Morris was dismissed for fromCornell, sentenced to three
(42:45):
years probation and a tenthousand dollar fine.
Poor fellow.
Mike Gorday (42:51):
Unintended consequences.
Nathan Mumm (42:52):
Yeah, you know, that was back in the day when
people Yeah, I I I I know aboutfines.
Do you?
Do you know about fines?
I do know about fines ingovernment stuff.
All right, that was this weekin technology.
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Announcement (43:45):
The segment we've been waiting all week for,
Mark's Whiskey Mumble.
Nathan Mumm (43:53):
This is the best intro music.
I like that intro.
That's pretty good.
All right.
Marc Grégoire (43:59):
All right, today, November 4th.
Hopefully everybody uh put inyour election ballot already and
voted.
But besides that, what istoday?
Uh November 4th.
Well, that's true, Mike.
Thank you, Mr.
Obvious.
Nathan Mumm (44:14):
It is what are we celebrating today?
National votes to make adifference for your country day.
Marc Grégoire (44:22):
No, it's not it's nothing, it's much more fun
than that.
Oh, okay.
Okay, what is it?
National Easy Bake Oven Day.
Oh, I remember the easy bakeovens.
Odie, did you ever have one?
Mike Gorday (44:34):
No?
Odie, do you even know what aneasy bake oven is?
Ody (44:39):
Was I born yesterday?
Marc Grégoire (44:40):
What compared to our ages?
Yes.
Ody (44:45):
Telling me I don't know how to do mail.
I don't know what easy bakeoven.
What else have you said?
Nathan Mumm (44:51):
You know, those have come from Mark and Mike.
Nathan has not given you a uhYes, there you go.
I'm showing you the love today.
Mike Gorday (44:58):
Now, did you have one as a kid?
No.
Yes, yes, you did.
Marc Grégoire (45:01):
You were you were teaching her how to eat
cereal earlier.
So it's well, most of us hadone as a kid.
Okay.
And you know the magic (45:08):
a light bulb, a tiny pan, and a level
of pride no Michelin star couldmatch.
If you did not, it's never toolate to relive that small scale
glory.
The early ovens used actualincandescent bulbs to bake
cookies and cakes, which isstill one of the most charming
examples of childhoodinnovation.
Mike Gorday (45:27):
Okay, my sister had one of those when we were
little.
Yeah.
And it took her four hours tobake a brownie.
Marc Grégoire (45:36):
Well, that's because it was a light bulb.
And it was the most deliciousbrownie you've ever had.
Mike Gorday (45:40):
No.
It was nasty as I had I had theboy version of easy bake oven,
which is creepy crawlies.
Remember that?
Nathan Mumm (45:47):
Oh yeah, it was a little uh gummy worm type of
gas.
Oreo Oreo stuff.
Wasn't it Oreo cookie crush?
No, no.
Marc Grégoire (45:56):
Never mind.
Go away.
Okay.
Alright.
Well, just like the Easy BakeOven turned childhood
imagination into something real.
Today's blind tasting does thesame.
Featuring Bakta 1928 ryewhiskey and Remus highest rye
bourbon.
Two pours that provecraftsmanship is as rewarding as
creativity.
So we have in one glass ofBakta 1928 rye whiskey, which is
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from Bakta Spirits.
It's a finished rye, non-agestated, 100-proof.
It is 60% rye, 30% cavidose,and 10% blend of Armagnac.
And it's $67.
In the other glass, we have aRemus highest rye bourbon, which
is from MGP Ross and Squib,which is done uh distilleries in
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Indiana.
It's straight bourbon, sixyears old, 109 proof, 51% corn,
39% rye, 10 malted barley, $55.
Mike Gorday (46:50):
Okay.
Marc Grégoire (46:50):
Okay.
Mike Gorday (46:53):
What does that mean?
What are we doing?
Ody (46:55):
How are we feeling about the how are we feeling about
this?
Nathan Mumm (46:57):
Well, I just looked up Creepy Crawlers online just
to take a look at it.
Marc Grégoire (47:00):
I know Nathan has one whiskey that he has
already finished.
Yeah, one other one that's onour screen.
Mike Gorday (47:05):
Do you now remember creepy crawlies?
Yeah, but you can eat them.
No, no, you didn't eat them.
They were little, you made yourown little thing.
Marc Grégoire (47:11):
I think one of your viewers is correct.
Why do we do whiskey on thisshow?
All you ever talk about iswhatever that day of the is, and
you go off on the internet.
Nathan Mumm (47:21):
I love the day sniff because Mark has to be a
little bit more.
Okay, all right.
Mike Gorday (47:24):
Why do we do this?
Because with all the news thatwe cover, we need it.
Yeah, but Mike's done with bothof his.
I already know.
Nathan Mumm (47:31):
All right, which which one did you?
I I like one and I do not likeone at all.
So there's one that I isabsolutely wondering.
Marc Grégoire (47:36):
Give me a little hint, Mike, because I gotta
know whether I need to starttasting this library.
Mike Gorday (47:40):
You know, I I they were both okay.
I didn't really prefer the theoverall taste of either one, but
I I think this one was betterthan that one.
So I like the I think I thinkit was the actual bourbon over
the one with Armagnac in it.
Ody (47:58):
Wow.
Mike Gorday (47:58):
I think I'm not sure because are you in
agreement, Nathan?
No, he is he is the opposite.
Speaker 3 (48:04):
I love this completely.
I do not like this at all.
Marc Grégoire (48:07):
He is he is the opposite of the thing.
Well, give us a a minute todiscuss this later when it's
time to reveal.
Okay.
Because uh very interesting.
You two are not connoisseurs.
I never claim to be.
Well, Mike Mike's closest to aconnoisseur.
Nathan Mumm (48:22):
Right.
That makes sense.
Marc Grégoire (48:24):
At least knowing what his palate is telling him,
but it's topsy turvy today.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Okay.
Nathan Mumm (48:30):
Well, you know what?
Whiskey and technology are sucha great pairing.
Like family and Thanksgivingdinner.
Ad (48:39):
What?
I can't.
Nathan Mumm (48:40):
We are now in November, so the holiday season
is once again upon us.
Mike Gorday (48:43):
Okay.
I don't know what Thanksgivingdinner you have, but most people
don't think that's a greatpairing.
Family and Thanksgiving?
Ody (48:51):
You know, we're finally in the season for it, so congrats.
Nathan Mumm (48:55):
Congrats.
Very cliche of you.
There you go.
All right.
Ody (48:58):
Ultimately we're a week too soon.
I mean, yeah.
No, no, no, no.
Mike Gorday (49:04):
We start early.
He's in this, he's in the samemonth.
This is not like Palmar.
This is not like Costco havingChristmas.
Ody (49:10):
You better have like a holiday release.
Well, I guess I well, you knowwhat?
Nathan Mumm (49:13):
We got we got Black Friday coming on up.
So we got a bunch of stuff thatwe have to put to You know who
you're talking to, right?
What's that?
Ody (49:19):
Yeah.
Nathan Mumm (49:20):
Not you.
Here.
Yeah.
She's talking Nathan.
No, I guess you're okay.
I guess you know.
All right.
All right.
You know what?
Let's prepare for ourtechnology fail of the week
brought to you by EliteExecutive Services.
Mike Gorday (49:29):
Congratulations.
You're a failure.
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Oh, I failed.
Did I?
Yes.
Did I?
Yes.
Nathan Mumm (49:37):
You know that button has never changed.
Marc Grégoire (49:38):
Well, she's the one that sets up the board.
She brought you the technologyfail today.
Mike Gorday (49:42):
She's still trying to figure out how Thanksgiving
is family is good things.
Nathan Mumm (49:46):
Well, today's technology fail comes to us from
Apple.
As Apple users report twofrustrating glitches with the
iOS 26, a keyboard bug andAirPod static.
Now, two separate Apple issuesare making the waves this week.
One is affecting the iPhonekeyboards on iOS 26, and the
other is causing strange staticin your AirPods Pro 3.
Now the iOS upgrades the 26 isall of a sudden deciding to put
(50:12):
the wrong letter when you type.
So if you type in you, guesswhat shows up?
But Jay.
If you type in M, an N is beingswapped.
Now this has been tested andruled out by autocorrect and
predictive texting.
It's actually a complete bug inthe system themselves.
Nothing is worse than typingthe word mum.
So Nathan Mum has a lot of N'sand a lot of M's when I type it.
(50:35):
So let me just tell you, notworking out.
It would be Najum.
That's right.
Now AirPods 3, static noise.
Some AirPod Pro owners arehearing unwanted static,
described as white noise, rain,or ocean sounds, especially when
active noise cancellization ison and no media is being played.
A few say that it's affectingtheir music itself.
Apple hasn't officiallyresponded to this issue.
Mike Gorday (50:57):
Now you know what's because they're trying to read
the text that they got on iOS.
Nathan Mumm (51:01):
That's right.
Users are hoping Apple's nextupdate brings relief on both
fronts.
Sure.
Or you can just use an Androiddevice.
All right.
Well, guess what?
Now we're moving to our NathanNugget.
Announcement (51:14):
This is your nugget of the week.
Nathan Mumm (51:16):
You know what?
Why settle for sirens when youcan have surveillance from the
sky?
Miami Dade's latest lawenforcement experiment isn't
just a self-driving squad car,it's a mobile drone launcher.
That's right.
This robotic cruiser rolls up,scans the scene with thermal
cameras, and then deploys adrone-like sci-fi reboot of
cops.
The car nicknamed Pug is packedwith AI, 360-degree
(51:41):
surveillance, and even enoughsensors to make your smartwatch
jealous.
But the real headline is it canlaunch drones to patrol from
above.
No pilot, no officer, just aflying robot without a badge.
It's currently in pilot mode,showing up at public events,
gathering feedback.
It's watching you.
If everything goes well though,don't worry, the airborne
(52:01):
backup could become a blueprintof the future of policing.
So next time you're in Miamiand hear a buzz overhead, don't
swat it.
Say hi to your new dronedeputies.
Alright, so what do you guysthink of that?
Drones being launched from acar that are Hey, you know 1984
is getting closer and closer.
Marc Grégoire (52:19):
What happens if you send up your drone and you
have a drone war?
Is that illegal?
Uh yeah, because that's policeproperty.
How do you know it is?
You just think of some otherdrone.
Mike Gorday (52:28):
I don't know.
Nathan Mumm (52:28):
I think you know what there will be drone battles
soon.
Drone battles.
Have you ever watched the TVshow Battle Bots?
You know, you have these robotsfight?
They have a couple drones inthere in the newer seasons, so
now all of a sudden you couldhave two robot drones fighting
each other at the same time.
Mike Gorday (52:42):
Everybody's gonna be picking them off with 22
rifles from behind from behindtrees.
All right, now let's move toour pick of the day whiskey
tasting.
Announcement (52:52):
And now our pick of the day for our whiskey
tastings.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop.
Marc Grégoire (52:58):
All right, Mark, was I wrong?
No, you you're you knew whichone was in which glass.
Okay, good.
Nathan Mumm (53:05):
Well, good job, Mike.
Marc Grégoire (53:06):
So in the selection of the best one.
The Glenn Kerrin was the Remushighest rye bourbon, and in the
beer glass was the Bakta tw 1928rye whiskey.
Okay, perfect.
Now, what's very interestingabout this, those I'm sure our
our listeners know more thanthan you two.
Okay.
But if you take the 24 that wedo and you go through all the
different rounds, you realizethat there's one, you really
(53:29):
need 25 to make everything workperfectly.
Okay.
So the remiss is from roundone, one that Nathan absolutely
hated and brought back in.
Okay.
Because I want to see how itdid.
Because the Bakta's one, he'salways voted down every time,
also.
That's because he put one theraw glass.
All right.
Two that he didn't like and putthem again and see if he'd even
like one.
(53:50):
And he loved one.
Which one did I have?
And then Mike has always chosenBakta every round.
The only reason Bakta issitting in close is because Mike
has always loved it aboveeverything else.
And did he not choose it?
And he chose the other one.
Mike Gorday (54:03):
Ah yeah.
Well, when you compare it tothis one, it had a it had a very
distinct flavor.
So we're not confused.
Marc Grégoire (54:10):
Which he wasn't a fan of the Remus in the early
round because that was one of myfavorites in the early rounds,
and neither one of you went forit.
Okay, so which one is movingon?
Nathan Mumm (54:19):
You get a pick, Mark.
Which one are you moving on?
Mike Gorday (54:22):
The Remus Higher Eye bourbon.
Marc Grégoire (54:24):
I'm sorry, Mike.
I have chosen the box overNathan on every round for you.
So we're gonna make this go tothe finals because I have a
whole bottle of it.
Oh, you have that at home, huh?
I went and bought it because Iwas pretty sure that Mike was
gonna pick it.
And if any tiebreaker, I wasgonna pick it with Mike, and
then Mike just I just upendedthe whole thing.
He did.
(54:44):
But I love the boxes.
That's why I wanted a box.
Mike Gorday (54:48):
It's because it's a comparative process, right?
It is comparative.
Marc Grégoire (54:51):
The reemus is delicious too, because that was
I did love that one from thefirst round.
Yeah, this is by far the best.
Nathan's got the right.
Mike Gorday (54:57):
Okay, Nathan.
You can this is not proof thatyou have the palette, Nathan.
This is proof that you identifyyour liquors with whatever
glass it's in.
Nathan Mumm (55:06):
Mike, we're about out of time.
We want to thank our listenersfor joining the program.
Listeners, we want you to hearfrom you.
Now, before we leave, we haveour secret sound.
So let's hear the secret sound.
It is not a pinball machine.
Odie, play it.
Play it one more time.
Play it again, Sam.
Mike Gorday (55:30):
Shouldn't that be two seconds?
Marc Grégoire (55:32):
Bet you it has a ball in it, a metal ball in it.
A metal or plastic ball.
Okay.
Nathan Mumm (55:37):
Okay, good that you're you're right.
But what what do we think itis?
Do you guys have any otherguess?
Mike Gorday (55:42):
Yeah, I know what it is.
You know what it is?
Yeah.
Okay.
I know what it is.
All right.
Nathan Mumm (55:46):
It's it's something that Nathan has.
So this is actually in myhouse.
I have it downstairs in mygame.
Mike Gorday (55:51):
That doesn't give anybody a clue because if
they've seen your house, youhave everything from 1980 on.
Nathan Mumm (55:57):
From 1980 on?
Mike Gorday (55:58):
Yeah.
Nathan Mumm (55:59):
I got a Pac-Man right behind uh Odie.
I know.
Followed by uh Optimus Primeand Barbie and Ken Star Trek
dolls.
All right.
Okay, Odie, get ready.
Please leave us your feedbackon that secret sound.
Go to the talkback recordingsystem at techtime radio.com.
Click on the recording and letus know what that sound is.
From all of us at Tech Time,was honored to be a host of
(56:20):
today's show.
Each week we're here to decodethe technology that shapes our
world.
One breach, breakthrough, andbourbon at a time.
See you next week.
Later.
Bye-bye.
Announcement (56:31):
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Welcome to Tech Time with Nathan Mum, the show
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We welcome our radio audienceof 35 million listeners to an
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He's in studio, he's ourco-host and the award-winning
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bring the best technology showpossible weekly for our family,
friends, and fans to enjoy.
We're glad to have Odie, ourproducer, at the control panel
today.
Welcome everyone.
Let's start today's show.
Announcement (01:29):
Now on today's show.
Nathan Mumm (01:33):
All right, today on the show we have our letter
segments, of course.
Uh, we're gonna go through andread letters that were submitted
by fans and the hit my inbox.
We also have our secret soundpot has doubled.
That's correct.
If you listen to the secretsound, all of those that
submitted the items last weekwere incorrect.
All right, the number oneconsensus of the people that
(01:54):
said it thought it was a pinballmachine, and that's incorrect.
It is not a pinball machine, sostrike that off your list, and
we'll see if you listen untilthe end of the show for that
secret sound extra second ofaudio.
Now, in addition, of course, wehave our standard features,
including Mike's mesmerizingmoment, our technology fail of
the week, and impossible NathanNugget, and of course our pick
of the day.
(02:15):
Whiskey tasting far sele to seeif it gets zero, one or two
thumbs up at the end of theshow.
It looks like we're in a uhsemifinal playoff here on which
uh whiskey we like.
So I gotta make sure I choosethe right one this time.
Or the one I like.
Mike Gorday (02:29):
You know, it's based on which glass it is for
no, not really.
Nathan Mumm (02:32):
It's it's it's always the best taste.
But you know what?
Let's get right into theheadlines of the world of
technology.
Announcement (02:40):
Here are our top technology stories of the week.
Nathan Mumm (02:43):
All right.
The U.S.
is looking to block TP Linkrouters, and we're gonna talk
about why you should replacethem now.
But before that, let's go toLisa Walker for more on this
story.
Announcement (02:55):
Could your Wi-Fi router be a national security
risk?
The U.S.
government is urging a totalban on TP Link, one of the most
popular router brands inAmerica.
With over 300 internetproviders issuing TP Link
devices, this move could shakeup millions of households.
Is this threat real?
(03:15):
Or just political posturing?
For me personally, I havereplaced my TP Link items, but
let's get the experts' analysis.
Back to you guys in the studio.
Nathan Mumm (03:28):
Alright, here we go.
T P Link.
Do you have a TP link device atyour house?
Me?
Yeah.
Mike Gorday (03:33):
No.
Nathan Mumm (03:33):
Okay.
Mike Gorday (03:34):
At least I don't think so.
Nathan Mumm (03:35):
You don't think so?
What type of router do youhave?
Do you have a Nighthawk?
Mike Gorday (03:37):
I I have whatever, you know, Xfinity gives you.
Okay, okay.
Nathan Mumm (03:42):
They don't give you a TP link, so that's at least
better.
Okay, all right.
Well, the US government isinching closer to banning TP
link routers, citing nationalsecurity concerns.
According to the WashingtonPost report, more than half a
dozen federal agencies,including the Commerce, Defense,
and Justice, now support theproposal.
Now, TP Link Systems productspose a security reeks because
(04:03):
they handle sensitive Americandata and may still be influenced
by the Chinese government.
TP Link was founded inShenzhen, China, and has since
split into two entities, TP LinkSystems, now based in Irvine,
California.
And they deny any foreigncontrol that is currently
happening.
They say no foreign country orgovernment, including China, has
(04:24):
access or control over thedesign of the production of our
products.
Um but the allegations,investigation, and market
dominance, TP Link has rise tobe a historical number one
router sale device.
In 2019, it had about 20% ofthe router market.
Today it's disputed at anywherebetween 65 to 70 percent of the
(04:48):
market.
Now, the Department of Justiceis also investigating the
company for alleged predatorypricing.
TP Link usually um has a degreeof vulnerabilities that require
with Chinese law, and it seemsto be that the lawmakers who
wrote laws for China laws beingconcerning are no longer
(05:08):
adhering to them.
Cybersecurity experts aredivided between um if the risk
is real or if it's just kind ofbeen made up.
But here's what we got going onhere.
The CEO of NetRise has foundthat in the TP link firmware
there are actually callbacksthat it sends information back
to China.
Now, cybersecurity experts saythe real concern isn't just TP
(05:31):
links, it's all routers ingeneral.
Most of them uncover once youput a router into your place,
most people don't upgrade thefirmware.
Now, do you have you upgradedyour firmware for your modem
from Comcast?
Am I supposed to do thatmanually?
Uh yes.
Oh, then no.
No.
Okay.
Um I have routers around thehouse.
(05:52):
I have Cisco stuff.
I got uh routers around mybusiness, which are Cisco and uh
other devices.
I have to go up to those andhave them updated on a quarterly
basis to make sure I get newfirmware, make sure I have
things taken care of.
Most experts don't.
Tech guy.
Most experts on the Odie, haveyou ever upgraded your uh router
(06:13):
at home?
Ody (06:14):
No.
And I didn't know that I neededto do that.
Mike Gorday (06:16):
Yeah, so Mr.
Tech Guy, there's the questionfor you is if you have one of
these things, how do you updatethe firmware?
Ody (06:22):
Thank you.
I was gonna ask that too.
Mike Gorday (06:24):
Okay, so it's really simple.
Nathan Mumm (06:25):
Most of the time you have to log in as an
administrator to your router.
So if you are leasing it fromComcast, do you also pay for the
security services from Comcast,or do you just rent the router
itself?
If you pay for the securityservices, it auto-updates and
they take care of it on theirside.
Okay.
Mike Gorday (06:40):
If you don't do what's that?
I believe that's what I do.
Nathan Mumm (06:43):
Okay, so you don't have to worry about it.
But if you have a standardrouter where you go and you
connect it into your main uhISP's connection, most of those
have a default admin, a defaultpassword for the admin console.
And they have the originalrouter uh software that comes on
out with that.
And most of the people thathave routers at their homes
(07:03):
never update it.
The original version is allthat they ever have because it
is an administrative task to loginto it, find the IP address of
that router.
You have to log in with ausername and password, you then
have to go, and sometimes mostof them have the ability to
update them on the internetitself, so they self-update.
But some of these you actuallyactually have to have a USB
(07:25):
drive and you have to put it inthere and you have to load the
drivers and update these to keepthese safe.
Ody (07:30):
So you mentioned that you do this four times a year, every
quarter.
Nathan Mumm (07:33):
I do it every quarter.
Ody (07:34):
Would you recommend that it's done at least once a year?
Nathan Mumm (07:37):
At least once a year would be perfect.
Once a year would be perfect.
I don't think people are sayingthat that we want to have stuff
ultra.
I mean, I'm sure it'd be greatif you did it every month.
That would be fantastic.
Ody (07:47):
That's just not realistic for the average consumer.
Nathan Mumm (07:49):
Okay.
So once a year when New Year'scomes around, you know, you
change your clock or you changethis and make sure you change
your default login credentialsimmediately once you get a
router.
It shouldn't be admin with yourpassword.
You need to put in a passwordthere.
Stick it on the back of therouter.
Don't try to do some passwordthat you're gonna forget.
Just put a big, huge stickynote on inside your router.
Write it on paper.
(08:10):
Yeah, write it on paper andstick it to the router because
if somebody comes on into yourhouse and they're at your router
to get your password, you havemany other things to worry about
than that you wrote yourpassword on a piece of paper
there.
Mike Gorday (08:21):
Well, I don't know about that.
Nathan Mumm (08:22):
Use a VPN with advanced privacy features when
you're either on your network oron each of your computers.
Ensure your firewall and Wi-Fiencryptions are turned on.
Regularly update your router'sfirmware, it should be done at a
minimum of once a year.
And consider switching to aWPA3 certified router if you're
even more concerned, which ismore security that's available
there.
Mike Gorday (08:42):
Okay, listen to all this tech speak that nobody
knows about.
Nathan Mumm (08:45):
Well, no, no, no.
You have a router at home.
Number one, change your defaultpassword.
Mike Gorday (08:50):
Get it hooked up.
My my my question is not how todo this, it's uh how do you
feel about all this, Mr.
I I love TikTok, even thoughChina steals all my information.
Well, yeah.
Nathan Mumm (09:00):
So everybody is stealing information out there
now, right?
We we talk about that each andevery week.
All your information's outthere.
I might as well now just giveit to people that I know that I
kind of like it.
Mike Gorday (09:09):
Yeah, I'm just gonna go to my neighbor and give
them all my passwords.
Nathan Mumm (09:12):
I you know what?
If I like the if I like thething that I'm using, I realize
there's no privacy anymore,ever.
So I'm just gonna uh use what Ilike and keep the privacy items
out of TikTok.
Um when I'm looking at TikTok,I'm not doing anything there.
They can oh, they know that Ilike fix it stuff, they know
that I like technology stuff,and they know that I like the
NFL.
You know what?
(09:33):
That's really not gonna kill meon anything that goes on.
Okay, all right.
All right, all right.
There you go.
Protect your digital router andyour digital life.
Mike, we got story number two.
Mike Gorday (09:43):
Yeah.
Speaking of TP.
Yeah, hey, uh you do mobilegames, right?
Nathan Mumm (09:50):
Uh I I I do not anymore do mobile games.
I used to play like RoyalBattle or something like that.
Mike Gorday (09:56):
Right.
And those are those are thosethings where you have to sit
through an advertisement andstuff where you can play.
Did you like that?
Uh do I like that?
No, I don't like that.
Okay, well, guess what?
What's that?
You probably don't want tovisit China then.
Okay, why would I want to visitChina?
Okay.
Because now China is runningthis test where you have to
watch ads to get toilet paper inpublic restrooms.
(10:19):
What?
What are you talking about?
Yeah, and a move that's equalparts tech innovation and public
inconvenience.
Restrooms in parts of China aretesting new toilet paper
dispensers that require users toscan a QR code and watch an ad
before receiving a ration stripof toilet paper.
See, they're all over theplace.
(10:41):
TP Link, TP What are youtalking about?
So I go into a crapper.
You go you go into a publicrestroom, yeah, you do your
business, yeah, and in order toget the cleaning supplies you
need, you have to watch an ad.
Okay.
I think, you know, I I oftengrumble about the stuff that
(11:02):
goes on here in America, butthis is one of the few times
where I, you know, I'm uh gladthat I live here.
Nathan Mumm (11:09):
You go to a public park and you have to use the
restroom, you're gonna besitting in there.
Mike Gorday (11:13):
Everybody's gonna be sitting in there scrolling on
ads.
If if this ever happens here inthe States where I have to
watch an ad just to get toiletpaper, yeah, I am destroying
every technology thing I canfind.
Wow.
Wow.
You wouldn't do that?
No.
No.
I think that's ridiculous.
Nathan Mumm (11:32):
So what happens if I I I got so many okay, keep on
going on.
I have so many questions in mymind right now.
Mike Gorday (11:37):
I just got to if you don't want to endure a few
seconds of promotional content,you can pay for a direct
dispense of toilet paper.
So I mean there is Which is itit comes to about seven cents US
dollars.
Nathan Mumm (11:51):
Or a little strip of a little stuff.
Mike Gorday (11:53):
Or a strip of toilet paper.
Nathan Mumm (11:55):
How much is that strip?
Is that like a single ply, twoply, three ply?
I don't I don't I don't know.
Is that a hand wrap?
Is that three sheets?
Mike Gorday (12:01):
I think you're asking questions you should be
directing towards China.
Maybe you should, you know, geton your TP link and and ask
them.
What happens if you have ablowout?
Nathan Mumm (12:11):
I mean, could you be there like an hour?
Ody (12:13):
I don't know how I brought this up that you just it in case
you don't need to do like morethan with the little toilet
paper, you just stay and watch abunch of ads and ration it out
for next time.
Nathan Mumm (12:25):
For next time.
For next time.
So they can take some TP homewith you in your pocket.
Yeah, yeah.
Ody (12:29):
Well that wouldn't be a po or better yet, bring your own TP
wherever you go.
Nathan Mumm (12:36):
Okay.
Okay.
Ody (12:37):
Buy your own roll and just walk around with a room.
Nathan Mumm (12:39):
Just walk around.
So in your backpack that you'recarrying from here on out, you
now have a little bit of roll.
Okay.
Mike Gorday (12:46):
All right.
Tell me municipal officials inChina say the system is designed
to curb waste, especially inhigh traffic areas where paper
hoarding has been a persistentissue.
Nathan Mumm (12:57):
Odie just told you how to be hoarded up even more.
Mike Gorday (13:00):
Yeah, Odie just Odie just uh game that system.
Okay.
The machines are equipped withoptical scanners and connect to
ad platforms via low-powerwireless modules serving
localized video content.
It's a digital evolution ofBeijing's 2017 facial
recognition dispensers, whichlimited paper access to once
every nine minutes.
(13:21):
So if you have a bad day, ifyou had a bad if you had a bad
day, you would have to sit therefor nine minutes before you got
used to it.
Nathan Mumm (13:31):
So I don't use public restrooms very often.
And if I use it, it's thatmeans it's kind of like an
emergency.
That's right.
So that means everything that Ido on the public side of stuff,
I could be in there forliterally an hour if I had an
issue.
And and and then what if I havea job or have to head someplace
else?
And it's like, why are youlate?
It's like, well, because Icouldn't watch enough ads to get
(13:51):
toilet paper to be here ontime.
Mike Gorday (13:53):
I don't know why you're asking me these questions
because I'm just bagging on it.
Okay.
So supporters supporters arguethat the ad-based system is
easier to deploy than the facialrecognition system.
Okay.
Remember, these are twodifferent systems that they're
run.
Nathan Mumm (14:08):
So sometimes they see my face and scan my face for
toilet paper, and sometimesthey'll watch you watch ads.
Mike Gorday (14:13):
Okay.
Critics, however, aren't buyingit, at least not without a full
battery and mobile data.
Social media reactions havebeen scathing with one user
equipping toilet paper in Chinanow requires watching ads.
Dignity is no longer free.
It's sponsored.
The trial has sparked broaderdebate about the
commercialization of publicinfrastructure.
What began as a solution topaper theft now feels like many
(14:37):
to be a microcrans transactionfor basically?
So it's like a video game.
Yeah, we have turned we haveturned toileting into a video
game.
You have to you have to youhave to pay to win.
Okay.
Let's be honest, if yourbathroom break starts with a
toothpaste commercial and endswith a ration square, you might
start questioning your choices.
(14:58):
One can only hope the ads areth thematically appropriate.
Imagine watching a luxury carad while waiting for two play.
Nathan Mumm (15:09):
So I'm watching a Lexus ad, experience the
excitement, and I'm like, hurryup, hurry up, get through these
ads.
I don't know.
Mike Gorday (15:16):
Yeah, it's like yeah.
Lexus.
All right.
The finer points ofawesomeness.
Nathan Mumm (15:24):
Oh boy.
Mike Gorday (15:26):
Oh, okay.
All right.
Nathan Mumm (15:28):
Story number three.
Uh maybe I'm glad that yourstory was story number two.
Maybe we should perfect.
Mike Gorday (15:34):
Yeah, it was that's right.
Maybe we should go to an adbefore we move on to story
number three.
Nathan Mumm (15:39):
All right, story number three.
Neo, the 200, the 20,000 Kworkhorse robot in your living
room.
Yeah, this is yeah.
Ah, we have different opinionson this.
Meet Neo, the humanoid homerobot from California-based 1x
technologies, is now availablefor pre-order.
Designed to tackle everydaychores.
Neo can open doors, fetchitems, flip light switches all
(16:01):
on its own.
But there's a twist.
The more complex tasks likefolding laundry, organizing
shelves, Neo relies on remotehuman teleporters who guide it
in real-time VF VR.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Mike Gorday (16:14):
Okay.
Nathan Mumm (16:15):
Now owner staying control.
Mike Gorday (16:16):
So wait, wait, wait.
You need to explain that thisis a fully humanoid robotic
creation.
For 20K.
For $20,000.
$20,000 one-time payment.
It looks like something youwould see on a movie.
Yeah.
It's about what, five feettall?
Something like that?
Nathan Mumm (16:34):
Uh yeah, it was about five feet tall.
It looks like a it's a prettygood uh looking robot.
It it looks like something thatyou would see in a sci-fi
movie.
It's got fully posable hands,which means you got all your
fingers, digits, and thumbslooking graphics.
Mike Gorday (16:48):
Alexa with a body.
Nathan Mumm (16:49):
Was that?
Yeah.
And what this does is thisworkhorse robot will clean for
you, take care of your housewhile you're gone at work, and
do everything you need to for20K.
Mike Gorday (16:59):
Except you have to have a human hooked up to it
somewhere else running virtual.
Nathan Mumm (17:06):
Because they don't have the systems in place.
They have a VR headset thatcomes on.
Mike Gorday (17:11):
Do you realize what you're saying, right?
You realize that you are buyingyou are buying a piece of
equipment to clean your house,yeah, and somebody has to do it
for you.
So it's basically hiring amaid.
So it's hiring a maid.
Yeah.
Nathan Mumm (17:24):
For 20K.
Mike Gorday (17:24):
For $20,000.
Forever.
I'm sure there's a I'm surethere's a I'm sure there's a
subscription.
Nathan Mumm (17:31):
No, there it's not.
I looked it up.
There's just a one-time fee for$20K.
No?
Mike Gorday (17:35):
Okay.
So it's not a it's not a it'snot a plus deal.
It's not a plus deal right now.
Nathan Mumm (17:40):
Nope.
Now, just owner state controldo a scheduling app.
Now, I did look at it.
You cannot have it run 24 by 7.
It'll only work up to eighthours a day.
Mike Gorday (17:50):
So you have to schedule your maid visit.
So you got well, you gottaschedule the time.
Yeah, because you need to getyour robot, your robot human
companion to power it.
Nathan Mumm (17:58):
Yeah, well, yeah, you know what?
The goal is to train Neo's AIto eventually handle tasks solo
using real-world data from earlyadopters.
Okay, it's a bold step forward.
It's either $499 a month, oryou can pay the full thing up
front at $20K.
Mike Gorday (18:13):
Okay.
All right.
Nathan Mumm (18:13):
Just don't expect it to cook dinner yet.
That's the only thing I want todo.
I so would you want a robot.
Mike Gorday (18:19):
I'm pretty sure there are a lot of things it
won't do, but you know.
Nathan Mumm (18:22):
So would you want a robot running around your
house, even if it was a guy insome studio in California that
has to pick up your dishes, foldyour clothes for 20K?
No.
Dude, that sounds like a stealof a deal.
Mike Gorday (18:35):
Yeah, okay.
Just think of a way.
Yeah, if we if we think if wetalk if we talk completely about
time per hour, how much is howmuch is $20 or two $20K uh in uh
the hours?
So we so we broke it up, right?
Nathan Mumm (18:48):
And I I did it over a five-year deal.
It's like four dollars, it waslike four dollars an hour.
Mike Gorday (18:53):
So it's a five-year plan for four bucks an hour.
Nathan Mumm (18:56):
Uh no, I uh yes, that's correct.
Mike Gorday (18:58):
Right?
So I can get the same serviceby paying what twenty bucks an
hour for a maid to come in oncea year.
Ody (19:07):
You know, you bring up a really excellent point because
the robot doesn't really do agood job.
We watched it do load dishesinto a dishwasher.
It took forever.
Mike Gorday (19:17):
What about what about those people on the other
end that are looking at yourstuff?
Ody (19:21):
Yeah.
This is just like Amazon Go.
It's all a facade, it doesnothing, and you're overpays.
Mike Gorday (19:33):
I know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Nathan Mumm (19:35):
Well, you know, I I was very excited about it.
Now now you now you're thinkingme.
Now ODR just put me down alittle bit.
Mike Gorday (19:42):
The real question though, Nathan, is that when is
yours going to get here?
Because this is definitely aNathan buy.
It is, man.
I struggled.
I mean, the fact that the factthat you broke it down, broke it
down to hourly wages.
Ody (19:56):
Okay, wait.
Nathan Mumm (19:57):
I had it in my cart.
We did the hourly wage.
Ody (19:59):
I think it's a very reasonable price for something
that's gonna last you at leastfive years.
Oh no no, but no, no, but itdoesn't work how it should.
Mike Gorday (20:07):
You no, so this is asking you can't say that it's
gonna last five years becauseyou don't know.
Okay, all we're saying is thatwe broke it.
Nathan Mumm (20:14):
So in a couple years from now, though, if we
have a robot at this 20k pricepoint, a little C3PO or an R2D
too, I'd do that.
Ody (20:21):
That's the cheapest price I've seen for the robot.
Because how much are the Teslabots going for?
Nathan Mumm (20:26):
Uh I don't know if it's probably half a million,
but but but uh significantlymore.
So this seems to be a rocksteel price for a technology
that's out there.
Mike Gorday (20:34):
Uh yeah, this is I you know my feelings about this.
I do.
This is this is like thoseemotional support robots.
How do you feel about those?
I I think that's do you likethose when we had the lady on
CS?
This is the dumbest thing inthe world to have emotional
robot.
Somebody, yeah, an emotionalsupport robot has.
Somebody across the door that'ssomebody that's controlling the
thing outside the room so thatthe person can get emotional
(20:57):
support.
Give me a break.
Nathan Mumm (20:59):
All right.
Well, that is our toptechnology stories of the week.
Next, we dive into our lettersegment, featuring scams
submitted by listeners in somestudio selected emails.
Be sure to listen and sharethis segment with a friend.
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Nathan Mumm (22:05):
All right, welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan
Bum.
Our weekly show covers of toptechnology subjects without any
political agenda.
Did you get your toilet paper?
We verify the facts.
We do it with a sense of humorin less than 60 minutes, and of
course, a little whiskey on theside.
Today, Mark Gregoire, ourwhiskey connoisseur, is in
studio, and he has our monthlytradition going on.
Mark, explain this to newlisteners what we got going on
(22:27):
here.
I guess uh Mike wants to knowif you were done with uh
scrolling through your ads foruh the toilet paper.
Mike Gorday (22:32):
So yes, no no no no no you you totally missed that.
What was that?
We just went for an ad.
Yeah.
Did you get your toilet paper?
No, I didn't get my toiletpaper.
Nathan Mumm (22:41):
Oh, I get what you're saying, actually.
I get it.
Okay.
Boom, boom, boom.
Boom, boom, boom.
Marc Grégoire (22:45):
All right, Mark, what do you got?
We are doing the 2024 FlavorAdvent Calendar.
This is round three, the semis,and this is our second semis.
So we're using the 2024 FlavorWhiskey Advent Calendar.
24 remarkable whiskeys to usefor our year-long blind whiskey
competition to see which oneNathan and Mike like best.
You brushed up against Nathanwhen you were coming in here.
Mike Gorday (23:08):
That's why you can't teak.
Marc Grégoire (23:09):
So come along for the ride once every month
while they uncover new tastesand train their senses to become
true connoisseurs.
Today is round three, as wementioned, our second
semifinals, where they willchoose their winner to move on
to the finals.
If they disagree, I of coursewill be the deciding vote.
Tonight's blind battle bringstogether two heavy hitters.
(23:30):
One with a touch of old worldelegance, the other a bold
showcase of classic Americanspice.
Both bring strength, depth, andcharacter to the glass, but
only one will rise above therest.
Let's see which one takes thecake as we turn up the heat.
Nathan Mumm (23:48):
This one will take the cake.
Turns up the heat.
Mike Gorday (23:51):
Which one which one?
How many more cooking analogiescan we throw out here?
Ah, that was pretty good.
Nathan Mumm (23:56):
You know what?
I I can't wait for the 2025flavor advent calendar.
Marc Grégoire (24:02):
Yeah, we can talk about that in next year.
But right now, what are youthinking on your whiskey?
Nathan Mumm (24:06):
Uh absolutely I have one that is way ahead of
everybody.
I got one that I like and onethat I do not like at all.
Marc Grégoire (24:12):
So do you like old world elegance or do you
like American spice?
Nathan Mumm (24:17):
I bet you I like American spice.
I think it's mine's a littlebit spicier.
It's got a little uh some somespice as well.
Mike Gorday (24:22):
You like some spice in your life, do you?
I I do.
Mike, you have a favorite righthere?
Uh no, not yet.
I have one.
I have two really distincttastes, and I'm not sure which
one I like the best.
Okay.
Marc Grégoire (24:34):
Wow.
Ody (24:35):
Okay.
Marc Grégoire (24:36):
Interesting.
Well, I'll fill you in more alittle bit later.
Nathan Mumm (24:38):
Well, you know, speaking of advent calendars,
you know Red Bull just came outwith an advent calendar?
Nobody cares.
Twenty-four different flavorsof Red Bull.
Just think of that.
It's a December.
There's 24 different flavors,so there you go.
Right.
What kind of flavors does RedBull have?
Marc Grégoire (24:53):
Don't forget to like and subscribe.
Drink responsibly.
Heaven can wait and stay awayfrom the Red Bulls.
Mike Gorday (24:59):
Stay away from the Red Bulls.
I mean, the original taste ispretty gross.
What's what what is it?
Red Bull.
Red Bull with lemon.
Red Bull gets you wings.
Nathan Mumm (25:07):
All right.
Well, okay.
Mark, thank you so much.
You're welcome.
With our whiskey tastingscompleted, let's move on to the
feature segment.
Today we bring back the funnyyet informative reading of
emails that I received duringthe week.
This includes some scam fishingemails, texting scams, and all
out mistruths disguised as alegitimate email in a segment we
call letters.
Odie, are you ready?
(25:43):
What was that?
Marc Grégoire (25:44):
I think it's a leftover pirate.
Nathan Mumm (25:45):
Is that leftover pirate?
No, I was like, alrighty.
I'm drinking that whiskey.
Ody (25:51):
I wish there was a way to turn off your accents.
Nathan Mumm (25:53):
My accents?
Ody (25:54):
Yeah.
Mike Gorday (25:55):
Just like okay, let's let's let's let's make
something clear here.
Nathan doesn't have accents.
Ody (26:02):
Impression.
Mike Gorday (26:02):
He has tonal shifts that just don't work.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Oh wow.
Marc Grégoire (26:06):
Don't you have a switch where you can just turn
them off completely?
Ody (26:09):
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
Mike Gorday (26:11):
No, his human operator is on is on a different
Odie?
Nathan Mumm (26:16):
Let's uh these guys are rambling.
What do we have here for youryour email?
Who is it from?
Ody (26:20):
It's from QuickBooks support support.
Nathan Mumm (26:23):
QuickBooks support.
Ody (26:25):
But it's not from QuickBooks support.
Uh-oh.
Really.
Because it's support at QB dotexperta accounting.com.
Oh I want to trust that.
Nathan Mumm (26:35):
QB Expert Accounting.
Ody (26:36):
Yeah.
Nathan Mumm (26:37):
QuickBooks maybe got the renamed to
expertaccounting.com.
No.
Maybe.
Probably not.
But okay.
So that would be your firstwarning sign.
Ody (26:45):
Okay.
The subject says meet your newQuickBooks account manager.
Okay.
Nathan Mumm (26:49):
Okay.
Ody (26:50):
Unless I'm excited about that.
I'm not excited about that.
Nathan Mumm (26:53):
I don't use QuickBooks, but I get to meet an
account manager.
Ody (26:55):
Okay.
So it says, dear QuickBooksuser, we're happy.
No.
We hope you're enjoying the newQuickBooks upgrade and the
added convenience it brings toyour business.
To make sure the best pro blahblah blah.
Uh please schedule a meetingwith your relationship manager
today and get tailored guidancefor your business.
Schedule a callback.
Nathan Mumm (27:15):
Okay.
So you click on the schedulecallback.
Ody (27:17):
Yeah.
Nathan Mumm (27:17):
Okay, it comes on up with a link error.
So the the schedule callbackdoesn't come on up.
Ody (27:23):
So they're not trying to talk to me?
Nathan Mumm (27:24):
So it comes up with a link air.
At the very bottom of it, ithas a link to a calendarly file.
All right.
So the calendarly file is verycommonly used.
I do, I do.
So very uh it it uses the linkdoesn't work, so you can't just
take care of it.
So then all of a sudden yourcalendly file goes to schedule a
quick book expert, and theygive you 15-minute time slots.
(27:47):
Now, a lot of these places thatdo that, you you just put in
your email and your name, andthen that auto schedules a time.
This form that they have, whichyou can pay for forms on
Calendly, it asks you for yoursocial security number, your
bank number, your routingnumber, all this information
when you go to schedule themeeting, which is uncommon in
Calendly.
Normally it's just a user emailand a name, and then they'll
(28:09):
schedule you through theirclient system.
So by the time you answer 25questions on this, well, maybe
it was like 20.
You figure out what yourpersonality is.
Yeah, you get your personal,you get your Myers Briggs score
back.
No.
So you then click submit.
It schedules you a meeting, butthey never call you back and
(28:30):
they never do anything for themeeting.
They'll actually cancel themeeting invite.
What they did is they just gotyour bank information, your
existing balance, what you havegoing on for the questions to
ask.
Now, they weren't reallynecessarily evasive questions,
but they're asking you what'syour current balance of your
money and what's current.
Well, then they they ask whatbank you're banking with.
They don't they actually didn'task for account routing numbers
(28:51):
or anything like that.
They just asked where your bankis, what your current balance
is.
So general stuff that wouldreally be good for a phishing
call.
I could say, hey, I'm callingon up from Chase Bank, and I see
that you have uh $9,000 inthere.
So they're trying to harvestthe information.
Ody (29:07):
So they're setting up their next scam.
Nathan Mumm (29:09):
Correct.
So that's building up from onescam to another scam by
collecting data because data isthe key.
Ody (29:16):
Now, I will say, I feel like that seems pretty odd to
get a QuickBooks thing and thenbe sent to Calendly, and that's
where you submit all yourinformation.
Nathan Mumm (29:26):
Yeah, except for people use Calendly a lot now.
Ody (29:29):
Yeah, but would you be submitting your like filling out
a questionnaire with that?
Nathan Mumm (29:33):
It was kind of yes, it did it didn't.
Ody (29:35):
Like that's kind of an awkward kind of transition
there.
Nathan Mumm (29:38):
I uh Mike, if that happened to you, would you would
you consider that kind of alittle bit?
Absolutely not.
Okay.
Mike Gorday (29:42):
You'd fall oh you'd no, I would I would absolutely
ignore that.
Ody (29:45):
There for one ignore it or not question it.
Mike Gorday (29:48):
Ignore it.
Okay.
I would I would not open thatup in the first place.
Okay.
Ody (29:53):
Yeah, neither would I immediately.
Mike Gorday (29:55):
I mean, if if if I even had QuickBooks and I got
this and I said, Huh, I wonderwhat This is and it took me to
this page and it started to askme questions about my bank
accounts.
Yeah.
I don't think so.
Yeah.
Okay.
I mean, you for this scam towork, you have to be kind of
really deluded into uh notdeluded, but very trusting.
Nathan Mumm (30:17):
80% of businesses in the United States use
QuickBooks.
So I mean that's a pretty goodstab to throw it on out there.
Mike Gorday (30:23):
I'm talking I'm talking about the the levels of
of things you have to support inyour brain to go through this
whole process.
You have to first, you know,not ignore the QuickBooks coming
from a non-QuickBooks email.
Yep.
Then you have to ignore thefact that you have a a missing
link or an a link error.
(30:44):
Then you have to go to aCalendly thing and and uh enter
information into that.
Then you then is this where theform happens?
I was in the calendar.
So then you have to go throughthis form where they're asking
some seriously personalinformation.
Okay.
And then submit it.
So this is you have to pass onthis.
I mean, I would have to dothat.
Nathan Mumm (31:05):
Oh do you pass on this if you saw this?
Ody (31:07):
Yeah, I don't have QuickBooks.
Okay.
Specifically from the From.
Okay.
Or at Q.
The farm.
Nathan Mumm (31:12):
Marky, would you pass on this too?
No, he'd do.
Oh, we're we're experts, soyes.
Okay, that's right.
Okay.
But you know what?
It does hit people.
All right.
Mike Gorday (31:20):
Yeah.
Yeah, there were a significantamount of people that were
always fall for these types ofthings.
Correct.
Nathan Mumm (31:25):
But hopefully they listen to Tech Time Radio and
they know not to click on thelink.
What does your hat say, Mike?
Don't click on sh stuff.
Okay.
There you go.
All right.
Mark, I think you're up next.
Marc Grégoire (31:34):
I am.
I think mine uh most people outthere would pass on.
Okay.
So this is from OmniNet.io, andthey say we have an attached
invoice with a number, and youhave an amount due of zero
dollars.
So I think most people would belike, Great, I don't have to do
anything.
Throw it away.
Nathan Mumm (31:49):
Okay, okay, good.
Okay.
All right.
Marc Grégoire (31:51):
Now, of course, there's a link that you click
and they said please reference,and they give you a reference
code when they contact you,which must mean something to
them that they can attach to.
But I don't understand why theyhave a different reference
number than the actual invoicenumber.
Most people, when you call,your invoice number is your
reference number.
That would be correct.
So you made it even morecomplicated than needs to be.
Nathan Mumm (32:11):
So you get so you get an invoice asking you to
click and contact them.
It says that you owe nothing.
Somebody didn't put in theright number in the in their in
their script there.
So it says you owe nothing,then gives you a different ID
and a reference number.
So that would be your instantding ding ding ding ding.
A lot of things aren't liningup here.
Marc Grégoire (32:27):
Correct.
Plus, it's a.io, which isalways the.ios are the the the
new thing now.
Nathan Mumm (32:33):
I know, but I'm dot AI is.ai is also the big thing,
too.
You know, somebody just bought$8,000 worth of dot AI domains.
Mike Gorday (32:42):
Yeah, yeah, we know who that is.
You don't you don't have to youdon't have to obscure it by the
way.
Nathan Mumm (32:46):
Hormel, if you want your Hormel.ai, just let me
know.
5k and I'll give it to you.
All right.
Well just buy him a robot.ai.
Uh there that was alreadytaken.
It was already taken.
It was already taken.
All right, here we go.
All right.
This is uh so Mike has the bestof the items, and we did this
in our production show meeting.
So all of you guys got to seethis in action.
(33:07):
I I'm not sure why this is thebest, but well, because it was
really good.
And it and actually I don'tremember seeing this.
Mike Gorday (33:14):
It's the best because Nathan likes it.
This is the best because Nathanlikes it.
All right, who's this from?
That's from Tanya DeSilvaTrilha.
Oh, my best friend.
Tanya.trilha atcandidoMendez.edu.br.
Oh, sounds legit.
No, does it?
No.
Okay.
To Nathan Mum.
Okay.
Payment completed.
(33:34):
Oh.
Please confirm attachedinvoice.
Okay.
Good day, Nathan Mum.
Okay.
They put your whole nametogether.
I like that.
Simple and sweet.
Yeah.
We are pleased to inform youthat payment for your invoice
has been completed as instructedby our management.
Please download and review theattached invoice payment
confirmation for your reference.
(33:55):
Best regards accountsdepartment.
Okay.
Question mark, question mark,attached invoice payment.
PDF.
Nathan Mumm (34:03):
All right.
Well, let's take a look at it.
Guess what happens?
Mike Gorday (34:06):
Yeah, this is a this is a virus.
Nathan Mumm (34:09):
Well, well, no, no.
This is uh harvesting yourlogin password to a Microsoft
email account.
So here's what happens.
You click on the attachment,and it immediately pops up a
window that looks very muchsimilar to what you would get on
Office 365.
Does that mean it's really nota PDF attachment?
It's not a PDF attachment.
No PDF downloads.
It immediately goes to aexecute file, right?
(34:30):
That's correct.
It immediately goes to a linkand launches a link.
And it looks like it asks mefor my login password for
Microsoft Office.
And it already has theusername, already had been
filled out.
It's missing on the very top.
Normally you have your usernameon the top and your password on
the second line, and you clicknext.
There's no username there, butit just says enter your
password.
Now, when you type in yourpassword, whatever password
(34:52):
you're you're going to type in,that's going to go back to their
conglomerate that's going tograb that information on their
website and say that thisusername from the email, which
was Nathan Mum at Bobmail.
There you go.
It was with my email.
And it's going to associatethat link with the password that
I typed in.
Now, if I type in the correctpassword, I would be in big
trouble because now they wouldhave my username and password,
(35:15):
but I would still be Nathanwould be okay because I have
dual factor authentication.
So they couldn't actually login.
I would get an alert on myphone.
But most people, if you don'thave a dual factor
authentication enabled, whatwould happen is they'd have your
username and your password.
So when that came out for thepassword, I put in a bunch of
profanities and then hit enter.
But what was really good aboutthis is instead of saying, hey,
(35:36):
let's just go to type in thepassword again.
It didn't work.
Can you retype it back inagain?
What it did is it actuallylaunched opening up my email.
So it actually had in the codeto see if you had an Office 365
existing uh login credentials.
If so, to go to that email.
So it looked like I signed into Office 365, put in my
(35:58):
password, and had everythingthere.
So I could continue working,not even knowing anything.
But what the script did is ittook that password that I typed
in and sent it to them to try tolog in.
Pretty sophisticated.
Mike, I I I was I was prettyimpressed with this uh uh
scenario.
Marc Grégoire (36:14):
Yeah, well, you know, I I suppose from the
technical end, it yeah, thatwould be.
So what are your red flags onthis one so people can watch out
for it?
Nathan Mumm (36:24):
What's your red flag here, Mike?
Mike Gorday (36:26):
Well the first one the first red flag is just from
an educational thing.
Okay.
And it doesn't tell me w whatthis is all about.
There's no name of what yourpaid invoice is on.
It just says Good day, we yourpayment has been completed.
So it doesn't tell you whatpayment for what.
Nathan Mumm (36:45):
So maybe they were thinking that I was uh in
college in the EDU, maybe I I Iwould pay a payment.
Is that what they're thinkingabout maybe?
Mike Gorday (36:53):
Possibly, maybe if you're going to college in
Britain.
Nathan Mumm (36:57):
Okay.
Mike Gorday (36:58):
All right.
I don't know.
Ody (36:59):
That doesn't make any sense though, because they're asking
you to log into your email.
Yeah.
Nathan Mumm (37:02):
Well, they they don't actually ask you to log
into your email.
What happens is when you clickon the attachment.pdf, instead
of instead of downloading a PDF,it automatically sends me into
a script that logs me intoemail.
Marc Grégoire (37:13):
So it's isn't that a clue right there?
You should never click on anattachment.
Don't click on never click onattachment from a source you
don't know.
Stuff.
That's correct.
And if you do want to dosomething, you should do it in
like a virtual um sandbox.
Mike Gorday (37:26):
Yeah, well, here's the you know, here's the sad
thing.
This is like telemercials, youknow, those evening things.
Yeah.
You're still getting these, sothat means they're still
working.
Nathan Mumm (37:36):
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
These work all the time.
Okay, and now we know whatwe're gonna head over to our uh
segment for letters is ended.
Now let's get into Mike'smesmerizing moment.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Welcome to Mike's mesmerizing moment.
What does Mike have to saytoday?
Nathan Mumm (37:53):
All right, this is a question for the everyday
person.
Mike, how many moreadvertisement gimmicks can a
normal p person take before theyhit overload?
Yeah, that's a loaded question.
Mike Gorday (38:04):
Okay, why is that?
Because I think we've alreadyhit overload.
Okay, okay.
And the problem is not thatwe've so what we've done is we
have gotten attacked by thisstuff so much that we've begun
ignoring it.
And so the ad companies aretrying to find more ways of
getting our attention.
(38:25):
And if we if we look at if welook at this whole idea of
attention span getting shorterand shorter and shorter, that's
a direct result of all thisstupid stuff that's that we are
uh hit with every day becauseour brains just don't need well,
they don't want to handle it.
So our attention spans aredirectly related to the amount
(38:48):
of input that we're getting fromour technological society.
Okay.
Nathan Mumm (38:53):
So have we So we've already hit overload.
Mike Gorday (38:56):
Yeah, unless you're like me and you and you uh kind
of study some of this stuff andyou find it really annoying
every time there's some ad thatpops up, like like YouTube ads
really annoy me because they'realways stuff that is
unscientifically based and foryou to lose weight or get your
herring back or you know you cando uh things that get your
(39:18):
eyesight back.
It's all BS, but you know, wewe have come to accept this as
part of life.
Okay.
And we just sort of mowthrough.
Nathan Mumm (39:32):
We've hit overload, that's what Mike says.
Thank you for that mesmerizing.
Mike Gorday (39:39):
Yeah, exactly.
And that's that's that's thethat's the tragedy of all this
stuff.
I I I would love to see anational or a global revolution
where everybody comes togetherand says, Stop sending me stuff.
I don't want to see your stupidads.
I don't want it's it's likejunk mail.
You remember junk mail?
Yeah.
How much junk mail did youkeep?
Nathan Mumm (39:59):
Uh none of it.
None of it.
Mike Gorday (40:00):
You just file it immediately and yeah, so and
this was this was back when backwhen everybody was worried
about the trees and the Amazon.
Yeah.
Right?
So everybody's wasting all thispaper because companies are
buying and sending us crap thatwe don't want.
Nathan Mumm (40:17):
You know what?
I kind of would love to getmore uh real mail that was that
had the ads.
Remember those little yellowcoupon flyers and stuff?
None of that happens anymore.
Now it's all on email.
So I you know what?
I I would I would fancy to havesomething come to me in regular
mail.
All right, thank you for it.
Mike Gorday (40:31):
Floodie regular mail is where you actually have
a physical mailbox to get anumber one salute there.
Nathan Mumm (40:37):
All right, we're gonna head out for a commercial
break.
When we return, we have thisweek in technology.
So now would be a great time toenjoy a little whiskey on the
side as we're doing so duringthis break.
See you after this.
Hey Mike.
Yeah, what's up?
Hey, so you know what?
We need people to start likingour uh social media pages.
Mike Gorday (40:53):
If you like our show, if you really like us, we
should use your support onpatreon.com.
Or is it Patreon?
I think it's Patreon.
Okay, Patreon.
If you really like us, you cansay I'm the English guy?
Patreon.com.
I I butcher the Englishlanguage?
You know you butcher theEnglish language.
Nathan Mumm (41:09):
Okay, so it's all the time.
Mike Gorday (41:10):
It's patreon.
Patreon.com.
If you really like if youreally like our show, you can
subscribe to patreon.com andhelp us out.
Oh, and you can visit us onthat Facebook platform.
Nathan Mumm (41:20):
You know the one that Zuckerberg owns?
Mike Gorday (41:22):
The one that we always bag on?
Nathan Mumm (41:23):
Yeah, you can we're on Facebook too.
Yeah, like us on Facebook.
Do you know what our Facebookpage is?
Tech Time Radio.
At Tech Time Radio.
You know what?
There's a trend here.
Mike Gorday (41:33):
It seems to be that there's a trend, and that's
Tech Time Radio.
Nathan Mumm (41:36):
Or you can even Instagram with us.
And that's at Tech Time Radio.
That's at Tech Time Radio.
Or you can find us on TikTok.
And it's Tech Time Radio.
It's at Tech Time Radio.
Mike Gorday (41:45):
Like and subscribe to our social media.
Nathan Mumm (41:47):
Like us today.
We need you to like us.
Mike Gorday (41:49):
Like us and subscribe.
Nathan Mumm (41:51):
That's it.
That's it.
That's that simple.
Announcement (41:54):
And now, let's look back at this week in
technology.
Nathan Mumm (42:00):
All right, we're going back to November 2nd,
1988.
The Morris Worm.
Robert Morris of CornellUniversity launches a
self-replicating worm as a partof a research project designed
to determine the size of theearly internet.
It was intended to count thenumber of computers and initiate
connections with othercomputers.
When the worm was loaded,though, into the program, it
(42:21):
started causing some programerrors.
And the Morris worm beganrepeatedly infecting machines,
clogging network traffic andcausing machines to crash.
Eventually the worm spread to6,000 machines, which was
roughly 10% of the internet atthe time.
Causing significant downtimefor government and university
systems for two days.
Morris was dismissed for fromCornell, sentenced to three
(42:45):
years probation and a tenthousand dollar fine.
Poor fellow.
Mike Gorday (42:51):
Unintended consequences.
Nathan Mumm (42:52):
Yeah, you know, that was back in the day when
people Yeah, I I I I know aboutfines.
Do you?
Do you know about fines?
I do know about fines ingovernment stuff.
All right, that was this weekin technology.
If you ever wanted to watchsome Tech Time history with over
270 plus weekly broadcastsspanning our five plus years of
video, podcast, and bloginformation, visit us at
(43:13):
techtime radio.com to watch ourolder shows.
We're going to take acommercial break.
When we return, we have MarkMumble Whiskey Review.
See you after this.
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Announcement (43:45):
The segment we've been waiting all week for,
Mark's Whiskey Mumble.
Nathan Mumm (43:53):
This is the best intro music.
I like that intro.
That's pretty good.
All right.
Marc Grégoire (43:59):
All right, today, November 4th.
Hopefully everybody uh put inyour election ballot already and
voted.
But besides that, what istoday?
Uh November 4th.
Well, that's true, Mike.
Thank you, Mr.
Obvious.
Nathan Mumm (44:14):
It is what are we celebrating today?
National votes to make adifference for your country day.
Marc Grégoire (44:22):
No, it's not it's nothing, it's much more fun
than that.
Oh, okay.
Okay, what is it?
National Easy Bake Oven Day.
Oh, I remember the easy bakeovens.
Odie, did you ever have one?
Mike Gorday (44:34):
No?
Odie, do you even know what aneasy bake oven is?
Ody (44:39):
Was I born yesterday?
Marc Grégoire (44:40):
What compared to our ages?
Yes.
Ody (44:45):
Telling me I don't know how to do mail.
I don't know what easy bakeoven.
What else have you said?
Nathan Mumm (44:51):
You know, those have come from Mark and Mike.
Nathan has not given you a uhYes, there you go.
I'm showing you the love today.
Mike Gorday (44:58):
Now, did you have one as a kid?
No.
Yes, yes, you did.
Marc Grégoire (45:01):
You were you were teaching her how to eat
cereal earlier.
So it's well, most of us hadone as a kid.
Okay.
And you know the magic (45:08):
a light bulb, a tiny pan, and a level
of pride no Michelin star couldmatch.
If you did not, it's never toolate to relive that small scale
glory.
The early ovens used actualincandescent bulbs to bake
cookies and cakes, which isstill one of the most charming
examples of childhoodinnovation.
Mike Gorday (45:27):
Okay, my sister had one of those when we were
little.
Yeah.
And it took her four hours tobake a brownie.
Marc Grégoire (45:36):
Well, that's because it was a light bulb.
And it was the most deliciousbrownie you've ever had.
Mike Gorday (45:40):
No.
It was nasty as I had I had theboy version of easy bake oven,
which is creepy crawlies.
Remember that?
Nathan Mumm (45:47):
Oh yeah, it was a little uh gummy worm type of
gas.
Oreo Oreo stuff.
Wasn't it Oreo cookie crush?
No, no.
Marc Grégoire (45:56):
Never mind.
Go away.
Okay.
Alright.
Well, just like the Easy BakeOven turned childhood
imagination into something real.
Today's blind tasting does thesame.
Featuring Bakta 1928 ryewhiskey and Remus highest rye
bourbon.
Two pours that provecraftsmanship is as rewarding as
creativity.
So we have in one glass ofBakta 1928 rye whiskey, which is
(46:19):
from Bakta Spirits.
It's a finished rye, non-agestated, 100-proof.
It is 60% rye, 30% cavidose,and 10% blend of Armagnac.
And it's $67.
In the other glass, we have aRemus highest rye bourbon, which
is from MGP Ross and Squib,which is done uh distilleries in
(46:40):
Indiana.
It's straight bourbon, sixyears old, 109 proof, 51% corn,
39% rye, 10 malted barley, $55.
Mike Gorday (46:50):
Okay.
Marc Grégoire (46:50):
Okay.
Mike Gorday (46:53):
What does that mean?
What are we doing?
Ody (46:55):
How are we feeling about the how are we feeling about
this?
Nathan Mumm (46:57):
Well, I just looked up Creepy Crawlers online just
to take a look at it.
Marc Grégoire (47:00):
I know Nathan has one whiskey that he has
already finished.
Yeah, one other one that's onour screen.
Mike Gorday (47:05):
Do you now remember creepy crawlies?
Yeah, but you can eat them.
No, no, you didn't eat them.
They were little, you made yourown little thing.
Marc Grégoire (47:11):
I think one of your viewers is correct.
Why do we do whiskey on thisshow?
All you ever talk about iswhatever that day of the is, and
you go off on the internet.
Nathan Mumm (47:21):
I love the day sniff because Mark has to be a
little bit more.
Okay, all right.
Mike Gorday (47:24):
Why do we do this?
Because with all the news thatwe cover, we need it.
Yeah, but Mike's done with bothof his.
I already know.
Nathan Mumm (47:31):
All right, which which one did you?
I I like one and I do not likeone at all.
So there's one that I isabsolutely wondering.
Marc Grégoire (47:36):
Give me a little hint, Mike, because I gotta
know whether I need to starttasting this library.
Mike Gorday (47:40):
You know, I I they were both okay.
I didn't really prefer the theoverall taste of either one, but
I I think this one was betterthan that one.
So I like the I think I thinkit was the actual bourbon over
the one with Armagnac in it.
Ody (47:58):
Wow.
Mike Gorday (47:58):
I think I'm not sure because are you in
agreement, Nathan?
No, he is he is the opposite.
Speaker 3 (48:04):
I love this completely.
I do not like this at all.
Marc Grégoire (48:07):
He is he is the opposite of the thing.
Well, give us a a minute todiscuss this later when it's
time to reveal.
Okay.
Because uh very interesting.
You two are not connoisseurs.
I never claim to be.
Well, Mike Mike's closest to aconnoisseur.
Nathan Mumm (48:22):
Right.
That makes sense.
Marc Grégoire (48:24):
At least knowing what his palate is telling him,
but it's topsy turvy today.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Okay.
Nathan Mumm (48:30):
Well, you know what?
Whiskey and technology are sucha great pairing.
Like family and Thanksgivingdinner.
Ad (48:39):
What?
I can't.
Nathan Mumm (48:40):
We are now in November, so the holiday season
is once again upon us.
Mike Gorday (48:43):
Okay.
I don't know what Thanksgivingdinner you have, but most people
don't think that's a greatpairing.
Family and Thanksgiving?
Ody (48:51):
You know, we're finally in the season for it, so congrats.
Nathan Mumm (48:55):
Congrats.
Very cliche of you.
There you go.
All right.
Ody (48:58):
Ultimately we're a week too soon.
I mean, yeah.
No, no, no, no.
Mike Gorday (49:04):
We start early.
He's in this, he's in the samemonth.
This is not like Palmar.
This is not like Costco havingChristmas.
Ody (49:10):
You better have like a holiday release.
Well, I guess I well, you knowwhat?
Nathan Mumm (49:13):
We got we got Black Friday coming on up.
So we got a bunch of stuff thatwe have to put to You know who
you're talking to, right?
What's that?
Ody (49:19):
Yeah.
Nathan Mumm (49:20):
Not you.
Here.
Yeah.
She's talking Nathan.
No, I guess you're okay.
I guess you know.
All right.
All right.
You know what?
Let's prepare for ourtechnology fail of the week
brought to you by EliteExecutive Services.
Mike Gorday (49:29):
Congratulations.
You're a failure.
Ad (49:32):
Oh, I failed.
Did I?
Yes.
Did I?
Yes.
Nathan Mumm (49:37):
You know that button has never changed.
Marc Grégoire (49:38):
Well, she's the one that sets up the board.
She brought you the technologyfail today.
Mike Gorday (49:42):
She's still trying to figure out how Thanksgiving
is family is good things.
Nathan Mumm (49:46):
Well, today's technology fail comes to us from
Apple.
As Apple users report twofrustrating glitches with the
iOS 26, a keyboard bug andAirPod static.
Now, two separate Apple issuesare making the waves this week.
One is affecting the iPhonekeyboards on iOS 26, and the
other is causing strange staticin your AirPods Pro 3.
Now the iOS upgrades the 26 isall of a sudden deciding to put
(50:12):
the wrong letter when you type.
So if you type in you, guesswhat shows up?
But Jay.
If you type in M, an N is beingswapped.
Now this has been tested andruled out by autocorrect and
predictive texting.
It's actually a complete bug inthe system themselves.
Nothing is worse than typingthe word mum.
So Nathan Mum has a lot of N'sand a lot of M's when I type it.
(50:35):
So let me just tell you, notworking out.
It would be Najum.
That's right.
Now AirPods 3, static noise.
Some AirPod Pro owners arehearing unwanted static,
described as white noise, rain,or ocean sounds, especially when
active noise cancellization ison and no media is being played.
A few say that it's affectingtheir music itself.
Apple hasn't officiallyresponded to this issue.
Mike Gorday (50:57):
Now you know what's because they're trying to read
the text that they got on iOS.
Nathan Mumm (51:01):
That's right.
Users are hoping Apple's nextupdate brings relief on both
fronts.
Sure.
Or you can just use an Androiddevice.
All right.
Well, guess what?
Now we're moving to our NathanNugget.
Announcement (51:14):
This is your nugget of the week.
Nathan Mumm (51:16):
You know what?
Why settle for sirens when youcan have surveillance from the
sky?
Miami Dade's latest lawenforcement experiment isn't
just a self-driving squad car,it's a mobile drone launcher.
That's right.
This robotic cruiser rolls up,scans the scene with thermal
cameras, and then deploys adrone-like sci-fi reboot of
cops.
The car nicknamed Pug is packedwith AI, 360-degree
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surveillance, and even enoughsensors to make your smartwatch
jealous.
But the real headline is it canlaunch drones to patrol from
above.
No pilot, no officer, just aflying robot without a badge.
It's currently in pilot mode,showing up at public events,
gathering feedback.
It's watching you.
If everything goes well though,don't worry, the airborne
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backup could become a blueprintof the future of policing.
So next time you're in Miamiand hear a buzz overhead, don't
swat it.
Say hi to your new dronedeputies.
Alright, so what do you guysthink of that?
Drones being launched from acar that are Hey, you know 1984
is getting closer and closer.
Marc Grégoire (52:19):
What happens if you send up your drone and you
have a drone war?
Is that illegal?
Uh yeah, because that's policeproperty.
How do you know it is?
You just think of some otherdrone.
Mike Gorday (52:28):
I don't know.
Nathan Mumm (52:28):
I think you know what there will be drone battles
soon.
Drone battles.
Have you ever watched the TVshow Battle Bots?
You know, you have these robotsfight?
They have a couple drones inthere in the newer seasons, so
now all of a sudden you couldhave two robot drones fighting
each other at the same time.
Mike Gorday (52:42):
Everybody's gonna be picking them off with 22
rifles from behind from behindtrees.
All right, now let's move toour pick of the day whiskey
tasting.
Announcement (52:52):
And now our pick of the day for our whiskey
tastings.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop.
Marc Grégoire (52:58):
All right, Mark, was I wrong?
No, you you're you knew whichone was in which glass.
Okay, good.
Nathan Mumm (53:05):
Well, good job, Mike.
Marc Grégoire (53:06):
So in the selection of the best one.
The Glenn Kerrin was the Remushighest rye bourbon, and in the
beer glass was the Bakta tw 1928rye whiskey.
Okay, perfect.
Now, what's very interestingabout this, those I'm sure our
our listeners know more thanthan you two.
Okay.
But if you take the 24 that wedo and you go through all the
different rounds, you realizethat there's one, you really
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need 25 to make everything workperfectly.
Okay.
So the remiss is from roundone, one that Nathan absolutely
hated and brought back in.
Okay.
Because I want to see how itdid.
Because the Bakta's one, he'salways voted down every time,
also.
That's because he put one theraw glass.
All right.
Two that he didn't like and putthem again and see if he'd even
like one.
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And he loved one.
Which one did I have?
And then Mike has always chosenBakta every round.
The only reason Bakta issitting in close is because Mike
has always loved it aboveeverything else.
And did he not choose it?
And he chose the other one.
Mike Gorday (54:03):
Ah yeah.
Well, when you compare it tothis one, it had a it had a very
distinct flavor.
So we're not confused.
Marc Grégoire (54:10):
Which he wasn't a fan of the Remus in the early
round because that was one of myfavorites in the early rounds,
and neither one of you went forit.
Okay, so which one is movingon?
Nathan Mumm (54:19):
You get a pick, Mark.
Which one are you moving on?
Mike Gorday (54:22):
The Remus Higher Eye bourbon.
Marc Grégoire (54:24):
I'm sorry, Mike.
I have chosen the box overNathan on every round for you.
So we're gonna make this go tothe finals because I have a
whole bottle of it.
Oh, you have that at home, huh?
I went and bought it because Iwas pretty sure that Mike was
gonna pick it.
And if any tiebreaker, I wasgonna pick it with Mike, and
then Mike just I just upendedthe whole thing.
He did.
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But I love the boxes.
That's why I wanted a box.
Mike Gorday (54:48):
It's because it's a comparative process, right?
It is comparative.
Marc Grégoire (54:51):
The reemus is delicious too, because that was
I did love that one from thefirst round.
Yeah, this is by far the best.
Nathan's got the right.
Mike Gorday (54:57):
Okay, Nathan.
You can this is not proof thatyou have the palette, Nathan.
This is proof that you identifyyour liquors with whatever
glass it's in.
Nathan Mumm (55:06):
Mike, we're about out of time.
We want to thank our listenersfor joining the program.
Listeners, we want you to hearfrom you.
Now, before we leave, we haveour secret sound.
So let's hear the secret sound.
It is not a pinball machine.
Odie, play it.
Play it one more time.
Play it again, Sam.
Mike Gorday (55:30):
Shouldn't that be two seconds?
Marc Grégoire (55:32):
Bet you it has a ball in it, a metal ball in it.
A metal or plastic ball.
Okay.
Nathan Mumm (55:37):
Okay, good that you're you're right.
But what what do we think itis?
Do you guys have any otherguess?
Mike Gorday (55:42):
Yeah, I know what it is.
You know what it is?
Yeah.
Okay.
I know what it is.
All right.
Nathan Mumm (55:46):
It's it's something that Nathan has.
So this is actually in myhouse.
I have it downstairs in mygame.
Mike Gorday (55:51):
That doesn't give anybody a clue because if
they've seen your house, youhave everything from 1980 on.
Nathan Mumm (55:57):
From 1980 on?
Mike Gorday (55:58):
Yeah.
Nathan Mumm (55:59):
I got a Pac-Man right behind uh Odie.
I know.
Followed by uh Optimus Primeand Barbie and Ken Star Trek
dolls.
All right.
Okay, Odie, get ready.
Please leave us your feedbackon that secret sound.
Go to the talkback recordingsystem at techtime radio.com.
Click on the recording and letus know what that sound is.
From all of us at Tech Time,was honored to be a host of
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today's show.
Each week we're here to decodethe technology that shapes our
world.
One breach, breakthrough, andbourbon at a time.
See you next week.
Later.
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