What happens when a holiday “thankful” theme clashes with cutting-edge technology, bold policies, and some notable missteps? We begin with Dubai’s high-profile plan to introduce flying taxis and ask tough questions: can eVTOLs truly reduce travel time after accounting for boarding, airspace management, and vertiport capacity—or will they just be expensive toys hovering above gridlocked cities?
Next, we discuss Australia’s eye-catching ban on social media for users under 16. We openly address the issues it aims to solve—cyberbullying, grooming, and addictive content—and consider the potential loss of social and educational benefits for teens, along with the challenges of age verification, VPN use, and platform switching.
Our guest, cybersecurity expert Nick Espinoza, highlights the CVE database, which quietly supports global vulnerability management. When defenders respond swiftly, it’s because CVE provides a shared map. This connects to real-world enforcement—like the arrest of a suspected Russian hacker in Thailand through international cooperation—and the rapidly evolving frontline where AI counters AI. Modern defenses depend on machine learning and deep learning that analyze CVEs, detect indicators of compromise, and respond faster than humans, narrowing the gap from cyberattackers who automate their tactics.
We also examine Nike’s provocative concept of “e-bikes for your feet,” discussing when robotic assistance improves mobility and recovery—and when it might serve as a shortcut that sacrifices effort for convenience. Additionally, we highlight a notable failure: AI toys that used a loosely constrained model to deliver inappropriate and unsafe content to children before being removed. This underscores that safety measures are essential in consumer AI. We conclude with practical insights: a whiskey worth tasting, worthwhile laptop deals, and advice to delay TV purchases until the Super Bowl.
If this blend of skeptical analysis, useful tips, and cybersecurity insights appeals to you, follow the show, share with a friend, and leave a quick review—what story made you nod, and which one made you say “humm”?
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Introduction (00:00):
Broadcasting across the nation from the East
Coast to the West, keeping youup to date on technology while
enjoying a little whiskey on theside with leading edge topics,
along with special guests, tonavigate technology in a
segmented, stylized radioprogram.
The information that will makeyou go, hmm.
Pull up a seat, raise a glasswith our hosts as we spend the
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next hour talking abouttechnology for the common
person.
Welcome to Tech Time Radio withNathan Mum.
Nathan Mumm (00:31):
Welcome to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mum, the
show that makes you go, hmm.
Technology News of the Week,the show for the everyday
person, broadcasting across thenation with insightful segments
on subjects weeks ahead of themainstream media.
We welcome our radio audienceof 35 million listeners to an
hour of insightful technologynews.
I'm Nathan Mum, your host andtechnologist with over 30 years
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of technology expertise.
Our co-host Mike Roday is inthe studio, of course, and he's
the award-winning author and ahuman behavior expert.
Now, today is our Thanksgivingshow, so we're going to be
talking about what we are mostthankful for in technology.
Now we're live streaming duringour show on six of the most
popular platforms, includingYouTube, Twitch.tv, Facebook,
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We're all friends fromdifferent backgrounds, but we
bring the best technology showpossible weekly for our family,
friends, and fans to enjoy.
We're glad to have Odie, ourproducer at the control panel
today.
Welcome everyone.
Let's start today's show.
Segment (01:37):
Now on today's show.
Nathan Mumm (01:41):
All right.
Today's show is all about theturkey.
Gobble gobble.
You know, we got a special uhsound effect that Odie's gonna
be playing during the show withthe turkey gobble.
So that will be interesting.
We also have why the spoiler.
There you go.
That's very unique.
Isn't that that's that'soriginal?
So anytime in our turkey thatshe wants to jump in, she's
gonna play that, and then we'llall go silent and then we'll let
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her say whatever needs to bedone.
There you go.
All right, we have our specialguest.
So it's a it's a uh episode fora holiday.
So guess what that means wehave on?
There's one guest that is ourholiday guest.
Mike Gorday (02:16):
Oh, yeah.
Nathan Mumm (02:17):
He comes on for Halloween.
Yeah, he's he's the he's thescariest guy I really like.
He's the scariest guy youreally like.
We have Nick Espinoza back onthe show today, so we're
thankful for that.
And you know what?
I am thankful for the radiocrew all here today, and of
course, whiskey.
Mike, what are you thankfulfor?
Mike Gorday (02:35):
You're just gonna lay that on.
What am I thankful for?
Um I'll be thankful that thisday is almost over.
Nathan Mumm (02:44):
This day is almost over.
Okay.
All right, okay.
Well, in addition to that, wehave our standard features,
including Mike's mesmerizingmoment, technology fail of the
week, possible Nathan Nugget,and of course our pick of the
day whiskey tasting to see ifour selected whiskey pick gets
zero one or two thumbs up by theend of the show.
Now, though, it's time for thelatest headlines in the world of
technology.
Introduction (03:03):
Here are our top technology stories of the week.
Nathan Mumm (03:07):
All right, story number one Dubai to launch
world's first flying taxiservice.
Dubai is posed to make historyas the first city worldwide to
roll out a commercial flyingtaxi network.
All right, let's go to LisaWalker for more on this.
Speaker (03:25):
Dubai, known for its supercar culture and luxury
lifestyle, draws millions ofvisitors each year and is home
to millions of residents.
Yet, despite its sprawlinghighways, traffic congestion
remains a daily challenge, withrush hour commutes stretching to
45 minutes across the city'score ten miles.
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While not LA traffic woes, thisis a challenge for this
tourist-driven city.
That gridlock could soon be cutin half with the arrival of the
Joby S4 Air Taxi, an electricvertical takeoff and landing EV
tall aircraft, capable ofsoaring through the skies at
speeds up to 200 miles per hour.
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Would you take the sky for anestimated $200 per person trip
back to you guys in the studio?
Nathan Mumm (04:14):
Seriously.
Alright, so Odie, let me I'mgonna go right to Odie first.
Odie?
Ody (04:18):
Well, you know my opinion about flying cars.
Mike Gorday (04:21):
Okay.
What's your opinion aboutflying cars?
Ody (04:23):
I'm against them.
Mike Gorday (04:24):
Why?
Ody (04:25):
Because people okay, wait, hold on.
Nathan Mumm (04:27):
There's hard enough for people driving off the
ground.
Ody (04:30):
Yeah.
Why do they need to be off theground in order to drive?
Nathan Mumm (04:32):
But this is a taxi service.
This is a taxi service.
Right.
Ody (04:36):
And you know who sucks more at driving than regular people?
Taxi people?
Taxi people.
Mike Gorday (04:42):
Wow.
You're not from New York.
Ody (04:43):
I don't need to be.
I've seen the footage.
Mike Gorday (04:45):
I uh okay.
Ody (04:46):
And I I've been to New York.
Mike Gorday (04:48):
I I think they're I think it's funny that they're
whining about 45 minutes for tenten miles.
They they they really need tocome over here into Seattle and
and like go two miles in 45minutes.
Ody (05:00):
Lisa did say that uh it's not like LA.
It's not like LA.
unknown (05:04):
Yeah.
Mike Gorday (05:04):
Well, nothing's like LA.
Ody (05:06):
And mind you, I've been to Guatemala.
Guatemala traffic is so muchworse than here.
Nathan Mumm (05:09):
Is that really?
Yeah, it's horrible.
That makes sense.
Well, built by theCalifornia-based Joby Aviation,
the fleet promises zeroemissions, minimal noise,
quieter than a helicopter, inthe range of a hundred miles per
hour flight.
Ody (05:23):
That doesn't okay.
Nathan Mumm (05:24):
Until it wrecks.
Ody (05:25):
Are how are people gonna how are we gonna regulate this?
Are we gonna have pilotsdriving this?
Nathan Mumm (05:30):
Well, hang on.
That's like that's a greatquestion to ask.
Let's continue on this.
We're talking about Dubai here.
We're not talking about theU.S.
Full operations are scheduledto begin March 31st, 2026,
cementing Dubai's claim to thebirthplace of flying taxis.
The network will feature fourVerda ports, specialized hubs
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for takeoff landing andservicing strategically located
across the city.
Now, once we go and talk aboutthe strategically located, it's
the highest bidders that it'sgonna go to the four
destinations of highest bidders.
So it doesn't so the firstplace they're gonna have it, of
course, is the internationalairport.
So Dubai's internationalairport will have one of these
that will land and pick up yournow.
Mike Gorday (06:11):
I think that's probably one of the hardest
things to regulate right there.
Right there.
Regulating Yeah, because you'reyou're already dealing with a
lot of airspace control.
Now you have to deal with allthese little electric taxis
flying.
Nathan Mumm (06:24):
Well, they'll probably take you like five
miles off on some shuttle first,and then you have to wait like
30 minutes to so what's gonnaend up happening is you know
you're gonna wait 30 minutes,load this thing, take another 10
minutes, unload, take another10 minutes.
Mike Gorday (06:35):
So it's gonna take 50 minutes to go 10 miles
instead of 45?
Nathan Mumm (06:38):
Yes, but you'll feel like it's less.
Well, yeah.
The second uh drop off isAtlantis, the Royal Hotel
Complex, the Dubai Mall, theworld's busiest shopping center,
with a level 1,100.
That's 111 million.
111 million.
111 million visitors yearly.
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And guess what?
You can also take a stroll downto the waterfront in the marina
near the American University.
So you could those are the fourhub spot locations.
Ody (07:08):
You know, if any country is gonna do it, it's gonna be
Dubai.
I mean, they own golf networksnow.
Nathan Mumm (07:14):
They own that I mean they they have just so much
money to spend.
Mike Gorday (07:16):
Aren't you supposed to gobble before you jump into
the conversation?
Speaker 4 (07:21):
There we go.
Mike Gorday (07:22):
There you go.
Okay, all right.
Okay.
If I have a if I have a pettiger, can they fly my pet tiger
around?
Nathan Mumm (07:28):
Yeah.
So here's here's the thing,though.
It only allows for passengersto check in with one pilot and
four passengers.
So that means you're getting atotal of four people back and
forth.
Now the price is estimatedevery yeah.
How many people do you fit in aregular cab?
Okay.
Well, I guess.
Okay, we're not it's not like aclown car.
unknown (07:47):
Okay.
Nathan Mumm (07:48):
Yeah, you're right.
Mike Gorday (07:49):
Look, you sound really surprised about that.
Nathan Mumm (07:52):
Well, I I just I would figure if you're doing
this, it should at least havelike six to eight people so you
could get a little bit of a.
We're talking about a taxiservice, not a van service.
Okay, all right, well.
So you got four people inthere, including, of course, the
pilot for safety.
Um, supposedly these are dronesupported, so I don't know if
that means that they can justkind of set a circle and it goes
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up and down and hopefully takescare of itself.
Mike Gorday (08:14):
No, that's that means the pilot is sitting in a
nice cozy office with a with anXbox controller.
That's what that means.
Nathan Mumm (08:20):
In the back, he's good.
He's like, look at what I cando here.
All right.
Well, they say each stationwill support a total of 4200,000
landings annually.
Mike Gorday (08:30):
42,000.
Nathan Mumm (08:31):
Yeah, so that's not bad.
Not that many.
Oh, you don't think that's thatmany?
unknown (08:34):
No.
Nathan Mumm (08:35):
Well, at 200 bucks a pop per passenger.
Uh so I mean, yeah.
It's gotta, it's gotta be okay.
It's for the rich, right?
It's for the rich and elite.
Mike Gorday (08:42):
Yeah, this is everything in Dubai is for the
that that purpose.
It is.
That's like that's like theworld's version of Vegas, I
think.
Uh yeah.
It's it's all about money.
Okay.
It's it's it's all about moneyin both places.
Let's let's just say this bereal.
All right.
Nathan Mumm (08:59):
So that's the story.
Mike Gorday (09:00):
It's number one.
Okay, okay.
Well, you know, if I was a if Iwas the how how do you deal
with unruly passengers?
Uh just throw them right off.
No, I mean do you cut theengine to let it free fall for
30 seconds or what?
Just think of the firstaccident that happens, right?
Nathan Mumm (09:14):
You're gonna take out yeah, that's gonna be.
It's like the superhero movies.
You ever see that they destroyall of New York?
So that means you got likehundreds and thousands of people
that would die in a superheromovie, but we just continue on
following the main Avengerpeople, and you know, we're
happy for them.
The whole sides of buildingsare being collapsed, and it's
like no big deal.
So I guess when this falls fromthe sky and it takes out some
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office working location and andand such, it's like it's no big
deal.
It's you know, it would justcontinue on.
Mike Gorday (09:40):
Okay, okay.
I'm I'm I'm really glad thatyou found a way to put the
Avengers into this story.
It's usually it's usually StarTrek, but you know you know
what?
Nathan Mumm (09:49):
I'm thankful that technology is moving forward
with these helicopter devices.
Ody (09:56):
Yeah, what about helicopters?
Nathan Mumm (09:57):
Well, they get replaced with these.
They're they're they'reobsolete.
That's such an old technology.
Mike Gorday (10:01):
Oh man, that's terrible.
That's right.
All right, they just you know,whatever.
Nathan Mumm (10:05):
All right.
All right, story number two.
Mike Gorday (10:08):
Story number two.
Australia is banning socialmedia for people 16 and under.
They are making headlines witha world first starting December
10th.
Platforms like TikTok,Instagram, Snapchat, and YouTube
will have to shut down teenaccounts and block new ones.
Parents will not be punished,instead, the responsibility will
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fall on the tech giants withfines up to 50 million dollars.
Wow.
Well, why are they banning?
Uh why do you think they'rebanning?
Nathan Mumm (10:38):
Well, because clearly the people log on to
these accounts and they do stuffthat they probably shouldn't do
at a much bigger.
So I've been talking about thisforever, right?
You have.
So this should be like this islike you're thankful for them
finally listening to you.
Mike Gorday (10:52):
I think uh yeah, I think this is this is probably
one of the best things thatanybody could do here.
But finally, a government studyfound that 96% of kids aged 10
to 15 are on social media, andmost have already seen harmful
content that includescyberbullying, misogyny, eating
disorder, grooming, which leadsto depression and anxiety,
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addiction, things like that.
More than half reported beingcyberbullied.
Parents are grateful somebody'sfinally stepping in to protect
their kids' well-being.
The ban covers 10 majorplatforms, while gaming apps
like Roblox and Discord aren'tincluded yet.
YouTube kids and GoogleClassroom are exempt, but the
government says the list willevolve.
Families can be thankful thatrisks are being reviewed, not
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ignored.
Companies will have to use ageassurance tools, IDs, facial
recognition, or AI that guessesage.
Meta has already startedclosing teen accounts, mistakes
and all.
Parents can be thankful theburden is on isn't on them to
police accounts, it's on theplatforms.
Critics argue, of course, thatteens will fake ages, yep, which
we've talked about.
(11:53):
They will use VPNs, which we'vetalked about.
Yep.
Uh, or they will feel isolatedwithout online communities.
Now there is there is someconcern there.
Privacy concerns loom too withsensitive data needed for
verification, but the governmentinsists protections are strong,
requiring companies to destroydata once it's used.
That's something to be thankfulfor in an era of endless hacks.
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Uh globally, Australia isleading the way, but Denmark,
Norway, and France areconsidering similar bans while
the UK has toughen safety rules.
So, yeah, you know that'sthat's a very drastic measure,
but I think I think in the longrun it's probably the best.
Nathan Mumm (12:33):
So you were talking about some concerns about
teenagers being cut off.
Mike Gorday (12:37):
Do you think that that if they don't have access
to this, that that will actuallycause them issues or yeah, of
course it will, because uh wehave learned over time doing
this that you can form tight litknit little communities online.
You know, it's not unusual fora person tod in today's age to
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have a friend that you've nevermet personally, that you talk to
them regularly over voice, thatyou're gaming together, that
you're doing things together,and you've never seen them in
person.
That's a common, the morecommon thing there.
So there is going to be aproblem with limiting that
connection.
Nathan Mumm (13:17):
So I think you know what, that then I think the
gaming communities may take alittle step up because you
you're still gonna be able togame, right?
So this is really just kind ofthe session.
Mike Gorday (13:25):
They haven't done it for this is for social media,
so they haven't done it forDiscord yet and things like
that.
So they're not fully takingthat away yet.
Nathan Mumm (13:34):
So then what's gonna happen is all these
Instagram platforms are allgonna be the old person's
platform, and then the youngkids will figure out a new way
to do something else that'sonline.
I mean, that's what alwayshappens, right?
Probably they always try tofind a way to sneak out.
Mike Gorday (13:47):
They're gonna find ways around the rules.
They're always they alwayswill.
Ody (13:50):
I'm curious about the maybe learning aspect of it because
growing up, we've often lookedup stuff on YouTube that's
educational or life referencersor whatever, blah, blah, blah.
How are they gonna regulatethat?
How I don't know.
I am kind of for it though,because there's a lot of
cyberbullying.
There's a lot of cyberbullying.
Also, there the attention spansthat are so different with the
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kids that are growing up now isinsane.
Yeah, like you were talkingabout it, how nobody in a
meeting can like Gen Z um canpay attention.
Nathan Mumm (14:20):
I don't think it's that bad with like five five
minutes, five minutes in, butit's everybody's like that's
what I'm thinking.
That's what I'm thankful for.
I'm too poor to pay attention.
Ody (14:30):
It's not as bad as the kids that are currently in school,
like grade school right now.
Yeah, yeah.
Nathan Mumm (14:35):
So is so so it's gonna get worse.
So soon we're gonna have like a30-second ad now that runs on
that's too long.
It is.
That's what they're saying.
They're saying that now for adtime they're trying to get it
down to 15 seconds.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Yeah, yeah.
Nathan Mumm (14:49):
Because 30 seconds is now considered too long.
A minute, they say that aminute commercial does nothing
anymore because people tune itout.
Yeah, how how long werecommercials when we were kids?
Uh, they were 60 seconds to 90seconds, depending on which.
Ody (15:02):
I always say 90 seconds is the average.
Nathan Mumm (15:03):
Up to up to two minutes.
It could be up to two minutes,yeah.
And commercial breaks wereanywhere between three to four
minutes.
I just am re-watching TV shows,and it's interesting because
they end at 43 minutes,depending on how long.
So eight teams, 43 minutes fora show.
And then if you move in, whichis in the early 80s, and then
you move in towards the end ofFriends indifference, sometimes
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you get 45 minutes.
So you can see that there usedto be even longer commercials
earlier in in the televisiongeneration that got a little bit
slower out, and the episodesgot a little longer.
Mike Gorday (15:35):
Yeah, that's all part of what we have been doing
socially with the advent oftechnology.
You know, we sit here and talkabout how technology is awesome,
but the problem with it when itintersects with humans is often
the benefits are not areoutweighed by the negative side
effects.
And social media is one that Ihave been complaining about for
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the last few years.
Nathan Mumm (15:59):
You know what?
We're thankful that theyfinally listened to you.
Mike Gorday (16:02):
Thank you, Australia.
I appreciate you listening tome.
I know that I am the awesomestguy to be talking about this
stuff, so thanks, Australia.
There we go.
Nathan Mumm (16:10):
All right, story number three.
Mike Gorday (16:12):
Would you like to run?
Let's move on from myawesomeness.
I don't know.
Nathan Mumm (16:15):
You're you're so awesome.
All right, let's go.
All right, would you like torun with little to no effort?
Nike thinks so.
They just might make youthankful for robotic shoes.
Okay.
So let me just tell you.
Mike Gorday (16:30):
This when we were kids, yeah, we thought that
tennis shoes would make us runfaster.
Yes, we did.
Right?
So they would come out withNike stuff and white Nikes with
the little red N on there.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
So we would we would buysneakers that think that we were
going to run faster.
No, we actually have that.
No, we actually have that.
Nathan Mumm (16:47):
So Nike just unveiled a Project Amplify, a
futuristic shoe with built-inrobotics designed to help
everyday runners and walkers gofurther with less effort.
Think of it as an e-bike foryour feet, a lightweight motor,
drive belt, and battery cuffwork together to mimic your calf
muscles, giving you a boostwhether you're jogging or just
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strolling.
The carbon fiber shoe can evenbe worn without the robotic
gear.
Yeah.
So how do you so think of thisnow?
You could all of a suddendecide to go and do a mile run
in about 10 to 12 minutes, andyou don't even have to put that
much effort into it.
Mike Gorday (17:26):
Yeah, okay.
So what's the point?
What's the point of doing amile run and you don't have to
put any effort into it?
Well, do you still burn thesame amount of calories?
No.
You don't think so?
I don't think so.
If you're if you're not usingit for if you're if you're not
putting all the effort in,you're not getting the same
benefits.
Ody (17:43):
So are they like boots that you pull on?
Nathan Mumm (17:45):
So they have a whole strap, yeah.
So absolutely go take thethere's a strap behind the back
that you can loosen and not haveit be there.
So it has the logic of whenyou're moving it to to move your
foot back and kind of move itforward, but you can disable
this.
That's been tested by 400athletes.
It says it's not for pros, butit's for the everyday person to
help them move more.
Ody (18:05):
Yeah, it's to help with endurance.
Nathan Mumm (18:07):
Yeah.
Ody (18:08):
Because once a person gets tired and they don't want to do
it, that's where they stop.
But if a if a machine isforcing you to keep going, I do
think it's a bit excessivebecause you'll listen to it.
Mike Gorday (18:17):
I don't really I don't really see it that way.
You know, of course, of course,you know I don't think I'm not
an exercise physiologist, so Idon't exactly know.
But if I if I am usingsomething to make if I if I go
out and I run five miles a day,which you know I used to do.
Okay.
I used to be able to do that.
I would run five miles a day,right?
And that would build up myendurance over time.
(18:38):
Right.
So I would build up enduranceendurance.
Nathan Mumm (18:40):
But what if this helps you start again?
Mike Gorday (18:42):
Now I can see it for people that have medical
issues like myself.
Like my knees are gone fromyears and years of martial arts.
Uh, I have arthritis in myhips.
Um I'm fat.
We like to we like to say bigboned.
Uh no, okay.
It's not big boned.
I'm I'm fat.
I got fat.
All right.
(19:03):
Right?
So this would be a helpful wayof me being able to do things
like navigate my stairwellbecause walking up and down
stairs really hurts.
Okay.
Ody (19:14):
But your body's still doing that.
It's just pushing you to keepgoing.
Nathan Mumm (19:18):
No, it's just making it easier for me to do
it.
It's like an e-bike.
I I love e-bikes now that I'vebeen on one.
I was at one over in France.
I've never been on a e-bikebefore.
Oh my gosh.
If I can pedal three rotationsand get me much further than I
was.
Mike Gorday (19:32):
Yeah.
I see these things all over theplace too.
Right.
E-bikes all over the place.
And these these kids are theythey are wearing motorcycle
helmets because these kids arerunning up and down the street
on these e-bikes, right?
They're not getting anyexercise value out of those.
You know, in ten years, if wekeep going this way, everybody's
gonna strap themselves intosome sort of robotic thing to
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get them from A to B.
That's that's avatar, right?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
And then and then we'll be andthen we'll be blue guys in a
different world.
Sure.
We can we can do it like that.
It's gonna be more like Wally.
We're gonna be sitting in thesefloating floating chairs, all
fat and lazy and not doinganything.
Ody (20:14):
A meal in a cup, man.
Mike Gorday (20:16):
A meal in a cup, a meal in a cup, you know where
that yeah, you know where thatcomes from, right?
Ody (20:19):
No.
Other than Wally?
Mike Gorday (20:21):
Because you know the whole theory about where the
where the Wally people weregetting their food, right?
What's that?
No.
Nathan Mumm (20:26):
Were they eating humans?
Mike Gorday (20:27):
No.
It's like soil and green.
Nathan Mumm (20:29):
Oh, soil and green, what a movie.
I remember watching that in theseven years.
Mike Gorday (20:32):
It's people, we're eating people.
Nathan Mumm (20:33):
That's right.
We're thankful for people.
That ends our top technologystories of the week.
We do have a resource rightthere, right?
When we return, Nick Espinosafrom Security Fanatics will join
the show.
What is he thankful for?
We'll find out next.
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Nathan Mumm (21:38):
Welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mum.
Our weekly show covers the toptechnology subjects without any
political agenda.
We verify the facts, we do asense of humor in less than 60
minutes.
And of course, with a littlewhiskey on the side.
Today, Mark Gregoire, ourwhiskey connoisseurs in the
studio.
Mark, what do we have today?
It's a little different.
We haven't poured the whiskeyyet.
So what?
Marc Grégoire (21:56):
I was gonna ask you, how was the whiskey during
the break?
Nathan Mumm (21:58):
I was gonna say, I haven't we can't screwing my
words yet, so I don't know Idon't know what to do.
Marc Grégoire (22:03):
Nice.
Well, today we're gonna bedrinking Little Book, the
Infinite Edition One.
It's a special bottle that Ibought for a special reason.
And so we are doing a freshcork pop, which we've never done
on the show before.
Oh, okay.
Mike Gorday (22:16):
Is that what you're thankful for, Mark?
Marc Grégoire (22:17):
Is fresh pops?
Oh, I'm new milestones, man.
Nathan Mumm (22:21):
This is new milestones.
Marc Grégoire (22:22):
I like milestones.
Yes, here we go.
Oh, it's taking the wask.
You ready for the pop?
You don't need liquor to slurrywords.
Oh, look at that pop.
Nathan Mumm (22:33):
That sounded fantastic.
Marc Grégoire (22:34):
Now I'll hand it to you, Mike.
You can pour it for everybodywhile I tell everybody a little
about this.
Give me your glasses.
There you go.
Thanks, Mike.
From Jim Bean's website, ourvery first edition, the liquid
that will form the foundation ofthe Infinity Barrel.
Once a year we'll bottle someup for the world to try, then
explore how to push the profileforward through blending.
So savor this whiskey today andcome back in a year for its
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next evolution.
It lays the groundwork fornotes of oak, char, and smoke.
Then brings in rich flavors ofdark fruit, cherry, and brown
sweets.
And it's all rounded out withthe bourbon where caramel,
vanilla, and baking spices notesreally shine through.
Perfectly balanced yet unlikeanything we've made before.
So this is from Beamson Tori.
(23:18):
It's the Jim Bean Distillery inClaremont, Kentucky.
Straight bourbon.
It's a blend of straightbourbons.
They are aged seven to twentyyears.
Okay.
Nathan Mumm (23:27):
Wow.
That is it.
It says come on back here in ayear.
So do you add a differentflavor to it in the year?
Marc Grégoire (23:33):
We will talk about that in the mumble, so
stay tuned.
Nathan Mumm (23:36):
Okay, because I was kind of curious because this is
the original, right?
So this is the unaltered.
This is the unaltered.
Marc Grégoire (23:41):
This is edition one.
This is the start.
This one is 119.3 proof.
And it is a blend of fourbourbons.
So as we mentioned, those fourbourbons range from seven years.
So one is seven years, one'stwenty years, and the other two
are in between.
And it goes for MSRP of $200.
Mike Gorday (23:59):
Wow.
Well, it needs it needs alittle more air.
Marc Grégoire (24:02):
It does.
Well, we'll let it air out abit.
Nathan Mumm (24:05):
It has a good finish.
It has a good finish.
A little bit of a little bit ofa bite.
A little bit of a bite.
Marc Grégoire (24:10):
Well, it's almost 120 proof.
And it's the first drink of theday for us.
So yeah.
Nathan Mumm (24:14):
Well, at least the first drink of the day that we
publish online.
That's right.
Marc Grégoire (24:21):
Now don't forget to like and subscribe.
Drink responsibly.
Heaven can wait.
Nathan Mumm (24:25):
Thank you so much, Mark.
This will let's see if thisopens up.
Reason a little bit.
You know, they we're getting uptons of culture.
You know what?
I don't I don't know if I cango.
I don't know if I can handleall this.
All this culture.
Yeah, is is this a new thingthat whiskey places are doing,
or is this something that alwayshappens where they have a uh a
bottle like this?
I've never heard of like afirst edition and opening it and
doing that.
So is that new, Mark?
Marc Grégoire (24:46):
Well, the opening it on the air, you'll
find out more in the mumbles.
That's a personal thing.
Okay.
Mike Gorday (24:52):
Yeah, everybody has to open up their liquor
bottles.
Marc Grégoire (24:54):
This is one of the first new ones where they're
trying to create like aninfinity bottle and on and on.
Now, different editions, a lotof whiskeys have different
editions, first edition second.
Nathan Mumm (25:04):
I mean, all the Lyra Craig's and Larceny's and
So is the idea that you neverhave the bottle empty and that
you're always filling it withdifferent stuff?
Marc Grégoire (25:13):
Well, that's that's kind of the home affinity
bottle.
So when you have some people,when they first pop it, they'll
pour the first ounce like intothis bottle of every whiskey
that they take.
And then other people do it atthe very end, like the very last
pour, and then it just kind ofmixes it.
Mike Gorday (25:28):
Is that like restaurants putting ketchup into
older ketchup bottles?
Is that what you're talkingabout?
Marc Grégoire (25:33):
A little bit, a little bit.
And then so every time you goand drink from your infinity
bottle, it tastes differentbecause you're continually
adding different lower.
Nathan Mumm (25:41):
It's kind of like a starter and you keep on having
different things.
It's kind of like you know, allright.
Thank you so much for thattasting there, Mark.
With our first whiskey tastingcompleted, let's move on to our
feature segment.
Today, our technology expert.
Are you okay, Mike?
I've no okay, all right.
I'm thankful for thankful foryou, Nathan, and your ability to
talk the way you do.
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All right, today our technologyexpert, Nick Espinoza, is
joining the show.
Nick is an expert incybersecurity and network
infrastructure.
He has consulted with clientsranging from small business to
the Fortune 100 level.
In 1998, at the age of 19, Nickfounded Wendy City Networks,
which was later acquired in2015.
He then created SecurityFanatics, where he's the chief
(26:22):
security fanatic.
We now welcome Nick to theshow.
Introduction (26:25):
This is a segment we call Ask the Experts.
Nathan Mumm (26:30):
All right, Nick.
Hey, we're so excited to haveyou.
Tell us a little bit aboutyourself to our new listeners.
We can see that you're in yourmain uh office location again.
The walls are a little bit uh alittle bit barren.
Uh explain maybe that to ourguest also.
Nick Espinosa (26:46):
Yes.
Well, I'm moving locations.
I finally bought the bunker onthe island I've always wanted.
Okay, and so by virtue of that,you can all find me by boat.
So looking forward to that.
Awesome.
There you go.
And also, can I just say Soiland Green is people?
Dude, spoilers, Mike.
I was gonna watch that nextweek.
Nathan Mumm (27:02):
Oh, sorry, man.
1970s movie spoilers.
Nick Espinosa (27:08):
All good, all good.
But no, I am I'm Nick Spinoza,the chief security fanatic of
security fanatics, like yousaid, and uh I'm always happy to
be here.
Nathan Mumm (27:15):
Whatever you do, if you're gonna watch a marathon
rerun, don't re-watch RunningMan with Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Wow.
That was you know, the newmovies coming on out, so I went
back to watch that.
Well, I'm just saying oldmovies when you sometimes go
back and watch them.
Wow.
Yeah, I just watched Smoky andthe Bandit yesterday.
Well, some of them are fun andsome of them are good.
But when you start usingtechnology and you're trying to
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do this uh end of the worldscenario, and yeah, okay.
All right.
Well, Nick, you know what?
Let's talk about things thatwe're thankful for, right?
You know, this is our show, andnow today we are talking about
everything that we're thankfulfor because it's our
Thanksgiving episode.
So I'm sure you have manythings you're thankful for,
right?
Nick Espinosa (27:57):
Yes, yes, I am.
Nathan Mumm (27:59):
Yes, I am.
All right, so let's talk aboutwith some of the few of your top
items, Nick.
What is your most important andthankful item that you want to
share with on the show today?
Nick Espinosa (28:09):
Sure, sure.
And obviously, for the recordaudience, we are keeping this in
the cybersecurity world becauseI'm thankful for other things
outside of that as well.
But I am actually reallythankful for what is known as
the CVE database.
Um, and this is the CommonVulnerability and Exposures
Framework or CVE.
This basically assigns a uniquerecord to every reported
vulnerability on the entireplanet.
(28:31):
And it's been around since1999.
Essentially, what this did wasit codified the entire world on
the same platform forunderstanding what vulnerability
is.
It's so unbelievably important.
And we take it for granted.
And this year was no differentin terms of taking it to
granted, except earlier thisyear, while the Trump
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administration's Doge was doingeverything, they were doing
their thing to like cut andslash absolutely everything and
shut down government departmentsand all of that.
The funding for the CVE wasactually cut.
Now, the CVE is run by anorganization called MITRE.
They're like aquasi-governmental organization,
and their funding comes fromthe US government.
At the 11th hour, do it aplease.
(29:13):
I actually put out an entirePowerPoint video on why the CVE
is like the most important thingever.
It got temporary funding back.
And so we're running ontemporary funding right now.
But if that goes away, this isa huge problem.
So it really underscores um theneed to have this funded, you
know, around the world.
But I'm really thankful thatthis database exists because
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again, common vulnerability isso unbelievably important.
When the North Koreans hacksomething, we now all know
exactly what that vulnerabilityis and how to treat it, thanks
to the C VE.
So super, super important.
Nathan Mumm (29:50):
I don't know.
Nick Espinosa (29:50):
WebMD is maybe WebMD is the wrong reference.
Everybody's dying on WebMD,right?
Well, well, well, and dependingon the C V E, you're dying to.
So I'll take I'll take theanalogy.
I'll take the analogy.
Although I I will say thisWebMD did tell me I was dying at
one point in my mid-20s.
I woke up.
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Basically, it's the day it'sthe day of one of my best
friend's weddings, and within anhour I was on the floor
writhing in pain, and like anerd, I didn't call 911.
I crawled to my laptop and Iwent to WebMD and it told me my
appendix exploded.
And I am grateful my appendixdid not explode, and I had a
kidney stone.
Mike Gorday (30:28):
But yeah, yeah, but that's what WebMD does.
It tells you you're dyinganyway from whatever everything.
Every symptom, yeah.
Nathan Mumm (30:35):
Every symptom and then headaches.
Mike Gorday (30:37):
Oh, you got brain cancer.
Okay.
Nathan Mumm (30:38):
And then go see the doctor.
It's always with the uh thecaveat, oh, go see your doctor.
So here's all the advice I'llgive you, but I I really can't
give you any of the advice, sogo see your doctor.
All right.
I'm sure though that that issomething that you're thankful
for.
Thank you for the expository.
I appreciate that.
Uh maybe I just looked at MD.
I had a little rash that I waslooking at, and I'm trying to
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figure out what I did.
I had malaria, right?
I do.
All right.
Nick, I'm sure there'ssomething else internationally,
on the international level, thatyou would be thankful for,
right?
What do we have here?
Nick Espinosa (31:13):
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I am thankful for this.
So if you didn't know, and thisis just the other day, really
put things into perspective forme.
The police have arrested asuspection, uh suspected Russian
hacker on the island of Fouquetthat's in Thailand, who was
wanted by the FBI here in theUnited States on allegations he
was behind cyber attacks in theUS and Europe.
This really, I think to me,puts things into perspective
(31:37):
because I am grateful that wehave a ton of international law
enforcement cooperation aroundthe world.
We have Five Eyes, we haveInterpol, you know, the FBI
coordinates with you know all ofthe various agencies in Germany
that are federal, and we areable to basically go after
criminals wherever they are.
This is a guy that you knowleft Russia, was being tracked
by international law enforcementon behalf of the FBI, landed in
(32:01):
Thailand, you know, and theThai authorities, in cooperation
with everything else, uheverybody else basically
arrested this guy.
I mean, I think that reallyshows that that you know,
whatever the state of the world,most countries are still united
by a common legal frameworkthat will not shelter cyber
criminals.
And I think that's great.
And we have some outliers, youknow, we all know the Russians
(32:23):
and the North Koreas of theworld, but I hope for the most
part the world continues, youknow, to to cooperate
internationally on legalenforcement.
And quite frankly, I hope thatnever changes.
So I'm very thankful for thatas well.
Mike Gorday (32:35):
So we got a legal hack for hackers.
Nathan Mumm (32:38):
Well, that's well, oh yeah, yeah, so so you're
talking internationally.
What about Dubai?
We we talked about them nowhaving taxi services at the top
of the the how are how are theyas a nation area for cyber
criminals?
Nick Espinosa (32:52):
Well, so the the problem that we have coming from
the Middle East is that is thatwhat we have essentially um is
shelter among a lot of differentcountries for various extremist
groups.
And by virtue of that, we'veseen the sheltering of things
like Al-Qaeda, ISIS, and all ofthat.
I'm not blaming any onegovernment or another, but you
know, we have a serious problemwith that.
(33:13):
So, for example, the leaders ofHamas uh during this entire
Israeli-Gaza conflict, whateveryou want to call it, I'm not
adjudicating that, they wereliving in Qatar.
So, so they were outside thearea of operations as their
people were basically just beingbombed and bombed and bombed.
So the Middle East, in and ofitself, not just Dubai, um, you
know, or the United ArabEmirates has you know has this
(33:36):
problem.
It's a systemic issue.
Look at Yemen, look at Oman.
There, there's you know, it'sit's there's a lot of places
there that are that are aredifficult for that.
But you know, we also have alot of international cooperation
among governments, though, aswell.
Right?
So we'll see what happensthere.
Nathan Mumm (33:51):
All right.
Now now, you know what?
We're gonna start kind ofmoving on to our next topic
here.
So you got your cybercriminals, your state-sponsored
threats that are taken care of.
Nick, what are you thankful forin the realm of AI?
Nick Espinosa (34:06):
Oh Lord.
Well, I'm looking as a as a fatAmerican, I'm looking forward
to my robot shoes powered by AIthat'll that'll let me run a
mile.
Yeah, and I'm gonna be able todo that like you, I got bad
knees, man.
So but uh, but no, I myhonestly though, I think one of
the biggest boons um tocybersecurity is artificial
(34:27):
intelligence.
We've had a a big push over theyears to really integrate AI
into things like threatdetection and threat
intelligence, and this year hasreally seen it being
supercharged.
And so the front end ofcybersecurity and cyber warfare
is AI fighting AI.
And so the more that we arebaking in AI into the threat and
detection um, you know,services, the more we're using
(34:49):
it, you know, to automatethings, the better and faster
we're gonna be against the cybercriminals.
And I mean, this is this is Ithink such an important thing
that most people don'tunderstand.
You know, you go download your$20 antivirus, you think your
computer is Fort Knox, it's not.
You know, we have artificialintelligence that is innovating
around that, which means we needartificial intelligence to
understand that innovation aswell.
(35:10):
So I'm I'm very thankful inthat realm for artificial
intelligence and and how it isbasically supercharging or
starting to supercharge ourdefensive technologies.
And I think that that needs tocontinue and it needs to
increase, you know, and despitemy issues with you know
artificial intelligence and the800 billion data centers we need
to run it, you know, not tomention electricity and water
(35:32):
and everything else, I am gladfor this aspect of it.
And so I think it's uh I thinkthat's a good thing.
Nathan Mumm (35:37):
That's great.
That's great.
So you know what?
AI in the right direction canbe useful.
Yeah, well, yeah, yeah.
Technology exists.
Now, Nick, when you guys areusing it, what type of language
models do you kind of use foryour threat detection?
Are you guys using a standardor using anthropics kind of
hidden behind the wall?
What do you guys use for yourAI threat detection that you
(36:00):
personally at Security Fanaticsrecommend or use?
Nick Espinosa (36:03):
Yeah, so so I don't publicly recommend
products only because we vet ourproducts every 90 days.
Okay.
And so what I recommend now,somebody uses, and a year later,
like, Nick, you're an idiot.
This got me hacked.
It's like, well, dude, Ihaven't recommended that in six
months.
But I will say this some ofsome of the more advanced
systems out there, the moreenterprise-level threat
intelligence systems, areactually creating their own
(36:25):
machine learning and deeplearning models that are based
on an understanding of what arecalled IOCs or indicators of
compromise.
This is also one of the reasonswhy the CVE database is beyond
important because this issomething that artificial
intelligence can train on.
Think about having every knownvulnerability going back, you
know, 25, 30 years in one shotthat the AI can start to
(36:48):
understand and start to makevariants on, say, oh, well, they
did it this way, they might beable to do it this way as well.
That's why CVE is so important.
That's why artificialintelligence is so important.
Because I or any other humancould not possibly memorize all
of that and then think of thethousands and thousands of
variations on thosevulnerabilities like an AI can.
So those companies that are notleveraging just, oh yeah, we're
(37:09):
just baking in Chat GPT to thisthing.
And I mean, there are aspectsof that that are important, but
but creating your own deeplearning um uh threat
intelligence system that isallowed to self-execute to
prevent infection to preventhacking is the name of the game.
And I think that's that's superimportant.
Nathan Mumm (37:26):
Perfect.
See, Nick Nick's thankful formany different things.
So we're all thankful.
That's better than theHalloween show.
Nick Espinosa (37:34):
The Halloween's different animal, man.
Different audiences.
I mean, you want this to turninto Halloween, start playing
Mariah Carey right now for me,and you'll you'll see different
things.
Mike Gorday (37:45):
No, I'm I'm okay with Halloween only being once a
year, man.
Nathan Mumm (37:49):
I love Halloween.
How do you how can people getin touch with you?
How can they maybe talk to youabout all the craziness from the
Halloween special?
Where would they go to connectwith you off of the show?
Nick Espinosa (38:01):
Yeah, yeah.
You can like, share, follow me.
Uh you know, Facebook, Twitter,LinkedIn, YouTube slash Nick
Espinoza.
It's mostly slash Nick Espinozaor slash Nick A Esp on your
social media platform of choice,except for TikTok.
Never TikTok.
Never TikTok.
But uh, other than that, comehang out.
I love saying hi.
All right, Nick.
Nathan Mumm (38:18):
Until you're in Australia.
Until you're in Australia.
Then then he'll be safe.
Well, uh we'll see if thatreally takes itself off.
Yeah, we'll see.
What happens when youself-penalize companies?
Either A, they decide to pullor B, the checks in the mail.
Yeah, we'll see how that worksout.
All right, that ends oursegment.
That's right.
Yeah, we all know we know thattoo.
Yeah.
(38:38):
All right.
That ends our segment with Askthe Expert with Nick up.
Now we have Mike's mesmerizingmoment.
Segment (38:45):
Welcome to Mike's mesmerizing moment.
What does Mike have to saytoday?
Nathan Mumm (38:52):
All right, Mike.
I kind of asked you a littlebit about this when the article
came on up, but would you usewalking assisted shoes or some
other kind of device that helpsstimulate workout movements to
help you or to help other peopleexercise?
Mike Gorday (39:06):
I think that depends on what's going on.
Like for for somebody who isyounger and in better shape or
doesn't have a lot of physicalailments, I don't think that's I
don't think that's a good wayto help out.
But if you have somebody likeme who almost 30 years doing
martial arts, I I used to do alot of extreme sports.
(39:27):
My knees are gone.
So wearing something thatassists me going up and down the
stairs, that might be helpful.
Uh but as a rule, I would say Iwould say this is not something
that you would use to remoteexercise because it all boils
down to uh taking effort off ofthe musculature, the
musculoskeletal system, uh-huh,and placing it in a device that
(39:51):
doesn't give you the samebenefits.
What it always boils down to iswhat is it being used for the
technology, the technologyexists for a purpose.
What is the purpose?
Okay, that makes sense.
Nathan Mumm (40:04):
Right?
Mike, you thanks for thatmesmerizing moment up next.
We have this week intechnology, so now would be a
great time to enjoy a littlewhiskey on the side as we will
be doing so during the breakwith as it's been breathing.
You're listening to Tech TimeRadio with Nathan Mum.
See you in a few minutes.
Hey Mike.
Yeah, what's up?
Hey, so you know what?
We need people to start likingour uh social media pages.
Mike Gorday (40:22):
If you like our show, if you really like us, you
could use your support onpatreon.com.
Nathan Mumm (40:28):
Or is it Patreon?
I think it's Patreon.
Okay, Patreon.
If you really like us, you cansay I'm the English guy
patreon.com.
I butcher the English language?
You know you butcher theEnglish language.
Okay, so it's all the time.com.
Mike Gorday (40:41):
Patreon.com.
Nathan Mumm (40:42):
If you really like if you really like our show, you
can subscribe to Patreon.comand help us out.
Oh, and you can visit us onthat Facebook platform.
You know the one thatZuckerberg owns?
The one that we always bag on?
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Or you can even Instagram withus.
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Like and subscribe to our social media.
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Like us today.
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Like us and subscribe.
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That's it.
That's it.
That's that simple.
Segment (41:24):
And now, let's look back at this week in technology.
Nathan Mumm (41:29):
All right, and the Wayback Machine, we're going to
November 26, 1996.
MP3s take over the music world.
On this day, the U.S.
gave a patent to GermansFraunhofer Institute for
something called a digitalencoding process.
That's a fancy way of sayingthe birth of MP3.
Before MP3, music files werehuge.
(41:50):
You couldn't fit many songs onyour computer or early portable
players.
The firm figured out how toshrink these files down while
keeping the sound good enoughfor everyday listening.
Suddenly you could carryhundreds of songs instead of
just a handful.
The work started all the wayback in the late 70s, and by the
mid-80s, they had cracked thecode.
(42:10):
In 1996, the US Patent made itofficial.
And if it's still going strongtoday, even after these years,
MP3 is around to stay.
It's not going anywhere.
Sure, we get newer formats withsharper sound, but MP3 wins on
a simplicity and compatibilitythat plays on almost anything,
including phones, cars,computers, smart speakers, and
(42:33):
any other little device.
So when you think about anabster or iTunes or iPod, just
remember none of this would havehappened without MP3.
So nearly 30 years later, it'sproof that sometimes the
simplest tech is the one thatlasts.
Alright, that was this week inTechnology.
If you ever wanted to watchsome Tech Time history with over
270 plus weekly broadcastsspanning our four plus years of
(42:55):
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Segment (43:31):
The segment we've been waiting all week for.
Mark's Whiskey Mumble.
Alright.
Nathan Mumm (43:43):
Yeah, yeah, okay.
What do we got today for ourour our our day of the week?
I don't know.
Mark's kind of relaxing overhere, man.
Marc Grégoire (43:50):
November 25th, whatever.
Nathan Mumm (43:52):
Is it what is it?
Is it a nonchalant day?
Marc Grégoire (43:54):
Oh, pretty close.
Nathan Mumm (43:55):
Uh uh.
National I don't give a crapday.
Marc Grégoire (43:59):
Very close.
What's what's the French wordfor all that?
Uh oh, what do you say thereare a French word?
Toilette.
Mike Gorday (44:05):
No, I don't know.
Marc Grégoire (44:06):
Blase day.
Blase.
Mike Gorday (44:09):
Okay, well.
Marc Grégoire (44:09):
Blas.
Mike Gorday (44:10):
You do blasé very well, Mark.
Thank you.
Marc Grégoire (44:12):
It's a wonderful, weird holiday,
clearly invented for Mike.
A day when the effortlessworldly can roll their eyes at
anything that fails to meettheir impossibly high standards.
So go ahead, revel in callingthings meh.
Enjoy being unimpressed.
Take comfort in not pretendinganything is amazing like AI.
Today, being delightfullyunderwhelmed is the point.
Mike Gorday (44:35):
I think that's a mischaracterization, buddy.
I like I want to yell people toget off my grass.
Except I have to do it at thecity park because I don't have a
I don't have a lawn.
Nathan Mumm (44:45):
Now you can buy shoes that will help you get
upstairs quicker.
Meh.
All right, tell us more, Mark.
Marc Grégoire (44:51):
Well, what am I not blasé about?
Uh whiskey.
Liquor.
Okay, those are all true.
But however, today I'm hittingmy one-year work anniversary.
Oh.
And that's why we're finallyopening the special bottle I
bought the minute my offerletter hit my inbox.
It's been a year already.
Yes, it has.
(45:12):
I've been staring at this for12 long months.
And now I finally got to crackit open and share it with my
friends here today.
Nathan Mumm (45:22):
Wow.
Marc Grégoire (45:23):
So I'm sharing it with you guys.
My work.
I'm really gonna be blasé aboutit.
My friends and my radio showpeople.
And then right after this, I'msharing it with my work friends
and my work team.
Oh, really?
We're having a little gettogether right after this.
Oh, wow, fantastic.
Celebrating.
That sounds great.
Nathan Mumm (45:40):
Translation.
Real friends.
Well, you know what?
We're all friends together.
Now, tell us a little bit aboutthis.
All right.
Marc Grégoire (45:48):
Little book, The Infinite Edition One, marks the
first ever line expression forthe brand, and its inaugural
release in this new series.
The blend brings together fourbourbons representing three
generations of the No family.
Grandfather, father, and son.
Booker, Fred, and Freddie No,beam sixth, seventh, and eighth
generation master distillersalong with one shared family
(46:12):
component.
For this first batch, 70% ofthe blend was bottled while the
remaining 30% was stored in atank to halt aging.
That tank portion becomes afoundation for a yearly release
with each new addition layeringin an additional component and
evolving the series into a trulyinfinite whiskey blend.
Okay.
So did that answer yourquestion?
(46:32):
Yeah.
Thank you.
Mike Gorday (46:36):
I'm just gonna be blasé the rest of the day.
Marc Grégoire (46:38):
I love it, Mike.
Now, this whiskey islegitimately impressive for me.
It hits with a full, rich body,carries deep layered layered
flavors, and delivers a long,satisfying finish that sticks
around all the way the rightways.
The blending work really shows.
It drinks bigger and moremature than the age statement
would suggest, and everythingfeels intentionally and dialed
(46:59):
in.
For me, this would easily landin my top five pours of the
year.
It is one of those rare bottleswhere the story, the
craftsmanship, and the flavorall line up and deliver exactly
what you hope for.
All right.
Woohoo! Fantastic.
I don't know if you guys areinto it as much, but I am uh
third.
You know what?
Nathan Mumm (47:13):
You need to you actually need to let it breathe.
The very first taste that I hadof that was nasty.
Marc Grégoire (47:17):
Well, that's usually why we never do fresh
crook pops.
Usually when I bring a bottlein, even if I've bought it
recently, I will open it, let itbreathe, do a pour or two
before I bring it in.
Nathan Mumm (47:26):
Because it's way different than the the the first
10 seconds of the whiskingtechnology are such a great
pairing.
Like Russell sprouts and greenbean casseroles for your holiday
feast.
Marc Grégoire (47:39):
How is that a pairing?
Horrible.
Well, these are the best twothings of Thanksgiving.
Mike Gorday (47:46):
Okay.
Coming from you, that's wrong.
That's that's Odie, what do yousay?
Nathan Mumm (47:50):
What do you got?
Ody (47:51):
Like pumpkin pie and whipped cream.
Nathan Mumm (47:53):
Oh Odie gets it.
Ody (47:56):
I get it.
Nathan Mumm (47:56):
No, you don't.
You know what?
For the nerds out there.
You don't like Brusselssprouts.
I don't know what you'retalking about.
Ody (48:01):
Potatoes and gravy, like stuffing and turkey.
They were all there.
Nathan Mumm (48:06):
That's so easy that we have just passed those by
for something a little bit morecomplicated.
Mike Gorday (48:11):
Do you like you like Brussels sprouts or do you
like Brussels sprouts that arecooked in bacon grease and not
bacon on the side?
Nathan Mumm (48:18):
I actually will actually eat Brussels sprouts
raw.
You can actually grate them asa part of a salad, like I have
trouble seeing that.
Mike Gorday (48:24):
I have trouble believing that.
I think that's like some sortof mystery thing that you like
to.
I can just see you going downinto you know the kitchen and be
like, Yeah, dips them in ranch.
Probably.
Marc Grégoire (48:35):
We just had shaved Brussels sprouts in a
salad.
We went out.
Uh my wife and daughter wentout to see Wicked uh last
Thursday.
Oh opening or close to openingnight.
Say did I?
Woo! Woo! And we went outafterwards to celebrate, I
guess, them watching the secondpart of Wicked.
Okay.
And uh we had that salad.
It's delicious.
Fantastic.
All right, well, there you go.
But it was a terrible pairing.
Nathan Mumm (48:57):
Yeah.
Now let's prepare for ourtechnology fail the week brought
to you by Elite ExecutiveServices.
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Segment (49:03):
You're a failure.
Oh, I failed.
Did I?
Yes.
Did I?
Yes.
Nathan Mumm (49:10):
This week I'm thankful for companies pulling
products that are not gearedtoward their intended audience.
Today, our technology failcomes to us from a toy company
trying to push AI toys.
Sales from an AI-powered teddybear that's been suspended after
alarming safety concerns.
Freddie.
Now the company behind the toyscalled Foil Toy pulled the
product from the shelvesfollowing a customer's watchdog
(49:32):
report.
Investigators found that thetoy would freely discuss actual
explicit topics, including BDSM,and even give advice to finding
knives or matches.
One of the toys that was ateddy bear named Kuma, and a
panda named Moma, a rabbit namedFOFA, and a dancing little
cactus.
Mike Gorday (49:52):
All of them are Momo and FOFO.
Nathan Mumm (49:53):
And none of them are available online.
I tried to buy these devicesall over everywhere.
I could, yeah, I could.
Well, that's the problem.
They used ChatGPT 4.0 model,which you know you can pretty
much ask it just about anything.
It had no real hard limits onit.
And so essentially you couldask it.
It would tell you how to killthings, it would tell you how to
do this.
It was just an open version ofChatGPT 4.0 for your four, five,
(50:15):
and six-year-old to explore theworld with.
Mike Gorday (50:18):
The revenge of Teddy Ruxpin.
Nathan Mumm (50:20):
There you go.
All right.
Well, you know what?
Let's move right now onto ourNathan nugget.
This is your nugget of theweek.
All right, to be followed up,of course, by our Secret Sound.
So we got our technologypurchases to pass on for Black
Friday.
So let's talk about it.
This is the time that you canpurchase and probably would like
(50:41):
to purchase a laptop.
This is the time to get a goodlaptop at a steal of a deal.
There's the Apple MacBook Air,which is under $950 for Black
Friday's sales on Amazon.
You can buy a Dell laptop for$14 for $749.
That was like $1,200 just acouple weeks ago.
And you can even buy a budgetlaptop for a Dell 15 laptop that
(51:03):
you can see at Dell and Speran,anywhere between $299 to $399,
normally sold for $799 at BestBuy.
Do take a look at some cellphone deals, but do not purchase
a new TV.
This is not the time topurchase a TV.
The time to purchase a TV isduring the Super Bowl weekend.
That's when you get the bestdeals and the best TVs.
(51:25):
If you purchase a TV now, youare going to be purchasing about
the same sales price that youwould have gotten for a Super
Bowl of this year at the sameprice point.
So do not do that.
But now let's move on to oursecret sound.
All right, that is our extendedsound that nobody has guessed
(51:50):
that sound yet.
Nobody has called in.
Nobody has gone to techtimeradio.com, clicked on the
microphone.
I do know that there's somelongtime listeners that are kind
of waiting for this episode toair, and they may immediately do
it.
So if you know what the soundis, immediately right now, jump
online, go to techtimeradio.com, click on the contact
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us and leave a message.
Marc Grégoire (52:16):
You better hurry up.
Whiskey Chris knows what it is,I think.
Does he?
And he was gonna he ping me andhe was gonna do it after last
week's show.
He figured it out, he thinks.
Okay.
And he's like, oh, but nobodyelse's guess.
I might just wait another weekor two and get more money.
Mike Gorday (52:30):
Yeah, trying to do that.
I said you better hurry.
Nathan Mumm (52:34):
Yeah.
All right.
Well, you know what?
Let's now move to our pick ofthe day whiskey tasting.
Introduction (52:39):
And now our pick of the day for our whiskey
tastings.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop.
Marc Grégoire (52:47):
All right.
What is not Blaser meh isLittle Book, The Infinite
Edition One.
And just for those listeners,they just released, I think last
month, Edition Two.
Okay.
I've not been able to procureyet.
This is from Beams from Tory.
It's straight bourbon, a blendof four bourbons from age seven
to twenty years, 119.3 proof.
(53:08):
MSRP was two thousand two twohundred dollars.
Two thousand dollars.
Nathan Mumm (53:12):
Wow.
Marc Grégoire (53:13):
Two hundred dollars.
Nathan Mumm (53:14):
Well, Mike, what do you give it?
A thumbs up.
Uh I'm gonna give it a thumbsup.
Okay.
You know what?
I would have given it a thumbsdown at the very first pour.
Um knowing the information inthere.
Mike Gorday (53:25):
It's in the right glass, Mark.
Nathan Mumm (53:27):
It is in the right glass.
I I have decided to.
Mike Gorday (53:29):
If you put it in the beer glass, it would be a
thumbs down.
Ody (53:32):
This is his way of being a connoisseur.
Okay.
Marc Grégoire (53:35):
What's that?
It does need to open up.
Ody (53:37):
It does.
Marc Grégoire (53:38):
So I've had a few tastes of it, not from this
bottle, of course, but fromother bottles I've been open a
while, and it really comesalive.
But a lot of the whiskeys thatwe have here, you have to open
and let sit for about a month.
Nathan Mumm (53:48):
That makes sense.
Marc Grégoire (53:49):
But I am gonna grab this bottle as we end the
show and run over to my uh workand we're gonna have a little
celebration.
Well, congratulations.
Uh, you're at your new job.
Yes, it's uh been a great jobanymore.
I know, it's been a great year,and this next year looks to be
even better.
There you go.
Nathan Mumm (54:04):
All right.
Well, we want to thank all ofour listeners for joining the
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Listeners, if we want to hearfrom you, just visit techtime
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Thank you so much, guys.
I am thankful for my greatstaff here at Tech Time Radio.
Oh, we're staff, okay.
Yeah, okay.
Oh boy, okay.
Boy, you know what?
Not sure if that re that's veryrevealing.
You know what?
From all of us, you know what?
Have a great Thanksgivingweekend.
(54:46):
Later.
Bye-bye.
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Now, today is our Thanksgivingshow, so we're going to be
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We're glad to have Odie, ourproducer at the control panel
today.
Welcome everyone.
Let's start today's show.
Segment (01:37):
Now on today's show.
Nathan Mumm (01:41):
All right.
Today's show is all about theturkey.
Gobble gobble.
You know, we got a special uhsound effect that Odie's gonna
be playing during the show withthe turkey gobble.
So that will be interesting.
We also have why the spoiler.
There you go.
That's very unique.
Isn't that that's that'soriginal?
So anytime in our turkey thatshe wants to jump in, she's
gonna play that, and then we'llall go silent and then we'll let
(02:05):
her say whatever needs to bedone.
There you go.
All right, we have our specialguest.
So it's a it's a uh episode fora holiday.
So guess what that means wehave on?
There's one guest that is ourholiday guest.
Mike Gorday (02:16):
Oh, yeah.
Nathan Mumm (02:17):
He comes on for Halloween.
Yeah, he's he's the he's thescariest guy I really like.
He's the scariest guy youreally like.
We have Nick Espinoza back onthe show today, so we're
thankful for that.
And you know what?
I am thankful for the radiocrew all here today, and of
course, whiskey.
Mike, what are you thankfulfor?
Mike Gorday (02:35):
You're just gonna lay that on.
What am I thankful for?
Um I'll be thankful that thisday is almost over.
Nathan Mumm (02:44):
This day is almost over.
Okay.
All right, okay.
Well, in addition to that, wehave our standard features,
including Mike's mesmerizingmoment, technology fail of the
week, possible Nathan Nugget,and of course our pick of the
day whiskey tasting to see ifour selected whiskey pick gets
zero one or two thumbs up by theend of the show.
Now, though, it's time for thelatest headlines in the world of
technology.
Introduction (03:03):
Here are our top technology stories of the week.
Nathan Mumm (03:07):
All right, story number one Dubai to launch
world's first flying taxiservice.
Dubai is posed to make historyas the first city worldwide to
roll out a commercial flyingtaxi network.
All right, let's go to LisaWalker for more on this.
Speaker (03:25):
Dubai, known for its supercar culture and luxury
lifestyle, draws millions ofvisitors each year and is home
to millions of residents.
Yet, despite its sprawlinghighways, traffic congestion
remains a daily challenge, withrush hour commutes stretching to
45 minutes across the city'score ten miles.
(03:45):
While not LA traffic woes, thisis a challenge for this
tourist-driven city.
That gridlock could soon be cutin half with the arrival of the
Joby S4 Air Taxi, an electricvertical takeoff and landing EV
tall aircraft, capable ofsoaring through the skies at
speeds up to 200 miles per hour.
(04:06):
Would you take the sky for anestimated $200 per person trip
back to you guys in the studio?
Nathan Mumm (04:14):
Seriously.
Alright, so Odie, let me I'mgonna go right to Odie first.
Odie?
Ody (04:18):
Well, you know my opinion about flying cars.
Mike Gorday (04:21):
Okay.
What's your opinion aboutflying cars?
Ody (04:23):
I'm against them.
Mike Gorday (04:24):
Why?
Ody (04:25):
Because people okay, wait, hold on.
Nathan Mumm (04:27):
There's hard enough for people driving off the
ground.
Ody (04:30):
Yeah.
Why do they need to be off theground in order to drive?
Nathan Mumm (04:32):
But this is a taxi service.
This is a taxi service.
Right.
Ody (04:36):
And you know who sucks more at driving than regular people?
Taxi people?
Taxi people.
Mike Gorday (04:42):
Wow.
You're not from New York.
Ody (04:43):
I don't need to be.
I've seen the footage.
Mike Gorday (04:45):
I uh okay.
Ody (04:46):
And I I've been to New York.
Mike Gorday (04:48):
I I think they're I think it's funny that they're
whining about 45 minutes for tenten miles.
They they they really need tocome over here into Seattle and
and like go two miles in 45minutes.
Ody (05:00):
Lisa did say that uh it's not like LA.
It's not like LA.
unknown (05:04):
Yeah.
Mike Gorday (05:04):
Well, nothing's like LA.
Ody (05:06):
And mind you, I've been to Guatemala.
Guatemala traffic is so muchworse than here.
Nathan Mumm (05:09):
Is that really?
Yeah, it's horrible.
That makes sense.
Well, built by theCalifornia-based Joby Aviation,
the fleet promises zeroemissions, minimal noise,
quieter than a helicopter, inthe range of a hundred miles per
hour flight.
Ody (05:23):
That doesn't okay.
Nathan Mumm (05:24):
Until it wrecks.
Ody (05:25):
Are how are people gonna how are we gonna regulate this?
Are we gonna have pilotsdriving this?
Nathan Mumm (05:30):
Well, hang on.
That's like that's a greatquestion to ask.
Let's continue on this.
We're talking about Dubai here.
We're not talking about theU.S.
Full operations are scheduledto begin March 31st, 2026,
cementing Dubai's claim to thebirthplace of flying taxis.
The network will feature fourVerda ports, specialized hubs
(05:51):
for takeoff landing andservicing strategically located
across the city.
Now, once we go and talk aboutthe strategically located, it's
the highest bidders that it'sgonna go to the four
destinations of highest bidders.
So it doesn't so the firstplace they're gonna have it, of
course, is the internationalairport.
So Dubai's internationalairport will have one of these
that will land and pick up yournow.
Mike Gorday (06:11):
I think that's probably one of the hardest
things to regulate right there.
Right there.
Regulating Yeah, because you'reyou're already dealing with a
lot of airspace control.
Now you have to deal with allthese little electric taxis
flying.
Nathan Mumm (06:24):
Well, they'll probably take you like five
miles off on some shuttle first,and then you have to wait like
30 minutes to so what's gonnaend up happening is you know
you're gonna wait 30 minutes,load this thing, take another 10
minutes, unload, take another10 minutes.
Mike Gorday (06:35):
So it's gonna take 50 minutes to go 10 miles
instead of 45?
Nathan Mumm (06:38):
Yes, but you'll feel like it's less.
Well, yeah.
The second uh drop off isAtlantis, the Royal Hotel
Complex, the Dubai Mall, theworld's busiest shopping center,
with a level 1,100.
That's 111 million.
111 million.
111 million visitors yearly.
(06:58):
And guess what?
You can also take a stroll downto the waterfront in the marina
near the American University.
So you could those are the fourhub spot locations.
Ody (07:08):
You know, if any country is gonna do it, it's gonna be
Dubai.
I mean, they own golf networksnow.
Nathan Mumm (07:14):
They own that I mean they they have just so much
money to spend.
Mike Gorday (07:16):
Aren't you supposed to gobble before you jump into
the conversation?
Speaker 4 (07:21):
There we go.
Mike Gorday (07:22):
There you go.
Okay, all right.
Okay.
If I have a if I have a pettiger, can they fly my pet tiger
around?
Nathan Mumm (07:28):
Yeah.
So here's here's the thing,though.
It only allows for passengersto check in with one pilot and
four passengers.
So that means you're getting atotal of four people back and
forth.
Now the price is estimatedevery yeah.
How many people do you fit in aregular cab?
Okay.
Well, I guess.
Okay, we're not it's not like aclown car.
unknown (07:47):
Okay.
Nathan Mumm (07:48):
Yeah, you're right.
Mike Gorday (07:49):
Look, you sound really surprised about that.
Nathan Mumm (07:52):
Well, I I just I would figure if you're doing
this, it should at least havelike six to eight people so you
could get a little bit of a.
We're talking about a taxiservice, not a van service.
Okay, all right, well.
So you got four people inthere, including, of course, the
pilot for safety.
Um, supposedly these are dronesupported, so I don't know if
that means that they can justkind of set a circle and it goes
(08:12):
up and down and hopefully takescare of itself.
Mike Gorday (08:14):
No, that's that means the pilot is sitting in a
nice cozy office with a with anXbox controller.
That's what that means.
Nathan Mumm (08:20):
In the back, he's good.
He's like, look at what I cando here.
All right.
Well, they say each stationwill support a total of 4200,000
landings annually.
Mike Gorday (08:30):
42,000.
Nathan Mumm (08:31):
Yeah, so that's not bad.
Not that many.
Oh, you don't think that's thatmany?
unknown (08:34):
No.
Nathan Mumm (08:35):
Well, at 200 bucks a pop per passenger.
Uh so I mean, yeah.
It's gotta, it's gotta be okay.
It's for the rich, right?
It's for the rich and elite.
Mike Gorday (08:42):
Yeah, this is everything in Dubai is for the
that that purpose.
It is.
That's like that's like theworld's version of Vegas, I
think.
Uh yeah.
It's it's all about money.
Okay.
It's it's it's all about moneyin both places.
Let's let's just say this bereal.
All right.
Nathan Mumm (08:59):
So that's the story.
Mike Gorday (09:00):
It's number one.
Okay, okay.
Well, you know, if I was a if Iwas the how how do you deal
with unruly passengers?
Uh just throw them right off.
No, I mean do you cut theengine to let it free fall for
30 seconds or what?
Just think of the firstaccident that happens, right?
Nathan Mumm (09:14):
You're gonna take out yeah, that's gonna be.
It's like the superhero movies.
You ever see that they destroyall of New York?
So that means you got likehundreds and thousands of people
that would die in a superheromovie, but we just continue on
following the main Avengerpeople, and you know, we're
happy for them.
The whole sides of buildingsare being collapsed, and it's
like no big deal.
So I guess when this falls fromthe sky and it takes out some
(09:35):
office working location and andand such, it's like it's no big
deal.
It's you know, it would justcontinue on.
Mike Gorday (09:40):
Okay, okay.
I'm I'm I'm really glad thatyou found a way to put the
Avengers into this story.
It's usually it's usually StarTrek, but you know you know
what?
Nathan Mumm (09:49):
I'm thankful that technology is moving forward
with these helicopter devices.
Ody (09:56):
Yeah, what about helicopters?
Nathan Mumm (09:57):
Well, they get replaced with these.
They're they're they'reobsolete.
That's such an old technology.
Mike Gorday (10:01):
Oh man, that's terrible.
That's right.
All right, they just you know,whatever.
Nathan Mumm (10:05):
All right.
All right, story number two.
Mike Gorday (10:08):
Story number two.
Australia is banning socialmedia for people 16 and under.
They are making headlines witha world first starting December
10th.
Platforms like TikTok,Instagram, Snapchat, and YouTube
will have to shut down teenaccounts and block new ones.
Parents will not be punished,instead, the responsibility will
(10:29):
fall on the tech giants withfines up to 50 million dollars.
Wow.
Well, why are they banning?
Uh why do you think they'rebanning?
Nathan Mumm (10:38):
Well, because clearly the people log on to
these accounts and they do stuffthat they probably shouldn't do
at a much bigger.
So I've been talking about thisforever, right?
You have.
So this should be like this islike you're thankful for them
finally listening to you.
Mike Gorday (10:52):
I think uh yeah, I think this is this is probably
one of the best things thatanybody could do here.
But finally, a government studyfound that 96% of kids aged 10
to 15 are on social media, andmost have already seen harmful
content that includescyberbullying, misogyny, eating
disorder, grooming, which leadsto depression and anxiety,
(11:12):
addiction, things like that.
More than half reported beingcyberbullied.
Parents are grateful somebody'sfinally stepping in to protect
their kids' well-being.
The ban covers 10 majorplatforms, while gaming apps
like Roblox and Discord aren'tincluded yet.
YouTube kids and GoogleClassroom are exempt, but the
government says the list willevolve.
Families can be thankful thatrisks are being reviewed, not
(11:33):
ignored.
Companies will have to use ageassurance tools, IDs, facial
recognition, or AI that guessesage.
Meta has already startedclosing teen accounts, mistakes
and all.
Parents can be thankful theburden is on isn't on them to
police accounts, it's on theplatforms.
Critics argue, of course, thatteens will fake ages, yep, which
we've talked about.
(11:53):
They will use VPNs, which we'vetalked about.
Yep.
Uh, or they will feel isolatedwithout online communities.
Now there is there is someconcern there.
Privacy concerns loom too withsensitive data needed for
verification, but the governmentinsists protections are strong,
requiring companies to destroydata once it's used.
That's something to be thankfulfor in an era of endless hacks.
(12:17):
Uh globally, Australia isleading the way, but Denmark,
Norway, and France areconsidering similar bans while
the UK has toughen safety rules.
So, yeah, you know that'sthat's a very drastic measure,
but I think I think in the longrun it's probably the best.
Nathan Mumm (12:33):
So you were talking about some concerns about
teenagers being cut off.
Mike Gorday (12:37):
Do you think that that if they don't have access
to this, that that will actuallycause them issues or yeah, of
course it will, because uh wehave learned over time doing
this that you can form tight litknit little communities online.
You know, it's not unusual fora person tod in today's age to
(12:58):
have a friend that you've nevermet personally, that you talk to
them regularly over voice, thatyou're gaming together, that
you're doing things together,and you've never seen them in
person.
That's a common, the morecommon thing there.
So there is going to be aproblem with limiting that
connection.
Nathan Mumm (13:17):
So I think you know what, that then I think the
gaming communities may take alittle step up because you
you're still gonna be able togame, right?
So this is really just kind ofthe session.
Mike Gorday (13:25):
They haven't done it for this is for social media,
so they haven't done it forDiscord yet and things like
that.
So they're not fully takingthat away yet.
Nathan Mumm (13:34):
So then what's gonna happen is all these
Instagram platforms are allgonna be the old person's
platform, and then the youngkids will figure out a new way
to do something else that'sonline.
I mean, that's what alwayshappens, right?
Probably they always try tofind a way to sneak out.
Mike Gorday (13:47):
They're gonna find ways around the rules.
They're always they alwayswill.
Ody (13:50):
I'm curious about the maybe learning aspect of it because
growing up, we've often lookedup stuff on YouTube that's
educational or life referencersor whatever, blah, blah, blah.
How are they gonna regulatethat?
How I don't know.
I am kind of for it though,because there's a lot of
cyberbullying.
There's a lot of cyberbullying.
Also, there the attention spansthat are so different with the
(14:13):
kids that are growing up now isinsane.
Yeah, like you were talkingabout it, how nobody in a
meeting can like Gen Z um canpay attention.
Nathan Mumm (14:20):
I don't think it's that bad with like five five
minutes, five minutes in, butit's everybody's like that's
what I'm thinking.
That's what I'm thankful for.
I'm too poor to pay attention.
Ody (14:30):
It's not as bad as the kids that are currently in school,
like grade school right now.
Yeah, yeah.
Nathan Mumm (14:35):
So is so so it's gonna get worse.
So soon we're gonna have like a30-second ad now that runs on
that's too long.
It is.
That's what they're saying.
They're saying that now for adtime they're trying to get it
down to 15 seconds.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Yeah, yeah.
Nathan Mumm (14:49):
Because 30 seconds is now considered too long.
A minute, they say that aminute commercial does nothing
anymore because people tune itout.
Yeah, how how long werecommercials when we were kids?
Uh, they were 60 seconds to 90seconds, depending on which.
Ody (15:02):
I always say 90 seconds is the average.
Nathan Mumm (15:03):
Up to up to two minutes.
It could be up to two minutes,yeah.
And commercial breaks wereanywhere between three to four
minutes.
I just am re-watching TV shows,and it's interesting because
they end at 43 minutes,depending on how long.
So eight teams, 43 minutes fora show.
And then if you move in, whichis in the early 80s, and then
you move in towards the end ofFriends indifference, sometimes
(15:24):
you get 45 minutes.
So you can see that there usedto be even longer commercials
earlier in in the televisiongeneration that got a little bit
slower out, and the episodesgot a little longer.
Mike Gorday (15:35):
Yeah, that's all part of what we have been doing
socially with the advent oftechnology.
You know, we sit here and talkabout how technology is awesome,
but the problem with it when itintersects with humans is often
the benefits are not areoutweighed by the negative side
effects.
And social media is one that Ihave been complaining about for
(15:58):
the last few years.
Nathan Mumm (15:59):
You know what?
We're thankful that theyfinally listened to you.
Mike Gorday (16:02):
Thank you, Australia.
I appreciate you listening tome.
I know that I am the awesomestguy to be talking about this
stuff, so thanks, Australia.
There we go.
Nathan Mumm (16:10):
All right, story number three.
Mike Gorday (16:12):
Would you like to run?
Let's move on from myawesomeness.
I don't know.
Nathan Mumm (16:15):
You're you're so awesome.
All right, let's go.
All right, would you like torun with little to no effort?
Nike thinks so.
They just might make youthankful for robotic shoes.
Okay.
So let me just tell you.
Mike Gorday (16:30):
This when we were kids, yeah, we thought that
tennis shoes would make us runfaster.
Yes, we did.
Right?
So they would come out withNike stuff and white Nikes with
the little red N on there.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
So we would we would buysneakers that think that we were
going to run faster.
No, we actually have that.
No, we actually have that.
Nathan Mumm (16:47):
So Nike just unveiled a Project Amplify, a
futuristic shoe with built-inrobotics designed to help
everyday runners and walkers gofurther with less effort.
Think of it as an e-bike foryour feet, a lightweight motor,
drive belt, and battery cuffwork together to mimic your calf
muscles, giving you a boostwhether you're jogging or just
(17:07):
strolling.
The carbon fiber shoe can evenbe worn without the robotic
gear.
Yeah.
So how do you so think of thisnow?
You could all of a suddendecide to go and do a mile run
in about 10 to 12 minutes, andyou don't even have to put that
much effort into it.
Mike Gorday (17:26):
Yeah, okay.
So what's the point?
What's the point of doing amile run and you don't have to
put any effort into it?
Well, do you still burn thesame amount of calories?
No.
You don't think so?
I don't think so.
If you're if you're not usingit for if you're if you're not
putting all the effort in,you're not getting the same
benefits.
Ody (17:43):
So are they like boots that you pull on?
Nathan Mumm (17:45):
So they have a whole strap, yeah.
So absolutely go take thethere's a strap behind the back
that you can loosen and not haveit be there.
So it has the logic of whenyou're moving it to to move your
foot back and kind of move itforward, but you can disable
this.
That's been tested by 400athletes.
It says it's not for pros, butit's for the everyday person to
help them move more.
Ody (18:05):
Yeah, it's to help with endurance.
Nathan Mumm (18:07):
Yeah.
Ody (18:08):
Because once a person gets tired and they don't want to do
it, that's where they stop.
But if a if a machine isforcing you to keep going, I do
think it's a bit excessivebecause you'll listen to it.
Mike Gorday (18:17):
I don't really I don't really see it that way.
You know, of course, of course,you know I don't think I'm not
an exercise physiologist, so Idon't exactly know.
But if I if I am usingsomething to make if I if I go
out and I run five miles a day,which you know I used to do.
Okay.
I used to be able to do that.
I would run five miles a day,right?
And that would build up myendurance over time.
(18:38):
Right.
So I would build up enduranceendurance.
Nathan Mumm (18:40):
But what if this helps you start again?
Mike Gorday (18:42):
Now I can see it for people that have medical
issues like myself.
Like my knees are gone fromyears and years of martial arts.
Uh, I have arthritis in myhips.
Um I'm fat.
We like to we like to say bigboned.
Uh no, okay.
It's not big boned.
I'm I'm fat.
I got fat.
All right.
(19:03):
Right?
So this would be a helpful wayof me being able to do things
like navigate my stairwellbecause walking up and down
stairs really hurts.
Okay.
Ody (19:14):
But your body's still doing that.
It's just pushing you to keepgoing.
Nathan Mumm (19:18):
No, it's just making it easier for me to do
it.
It's like an e-bike.
I I love e-bikes now that I'vebeen on one.
I was at one over in France.
I've never been on a e-bikebefore.
Oh my gosh.
If I can pedal three rotationsand get me much further than I
was.
Mike Gorday (19:32):
Yeah.
I see these things all over theplace too.
Right.
E-bikes all over the place.
And these these kids are theythey are wearing motorcycle
helmets because these kids arerunning up and down the street
on these e-bikes, right?
They're not getting anyexercise value out of those.
You know, in ten years, if wekeep going this way, everybody's
gonna strap themselves intosome sort of robotic thing to
(19:55):
get them from A to B.
That's that's avatar, right?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
And then and then we'll be andthen we'll be blue guys in a
different world.
Sure.
We can we can do it like that.
It's gonna be more like Wally.
We're gonna be sitting in thesefloating floating chairs, all
fat and lazy and not doinganything.
Ody (20:14):
A meal in a cup, man.
Mike Gorday (20:16):
A meal in a cup, a meal in a cup, you know where
that yeah, you know where thatcomes from, right?
Ody (20:19):
No.
Other than Wally?
Mike Gorday (20:21):
Because you know the whole theory about where the
where the Wally people weregetting their food, right?
What's that?
No.
Nathan Mumm (20:26):
Were they eating humans?
Mike Gorday (20:27):
No.
It's like soil and green.
Nathan Mumm (20:29):
Oh, soil and green, what a movie.
I remember watching that in theseven years.
Mike Gorday (20:32):
It's people, we're eating people.
Nathan Mumm (20:33):
That's right.
We're thankful for people.
That ends our top technologystories of the week.
We do have a resource rightthere, right?
When we return, Nick Espinosafrom Security Fanatics will join
the show.
What is he thankful for?
We'll find out next.
You're listening to Tech Timewith Nathan Mum.
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Nathan Mumm (21:38):
Welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mum.
Our weekly show covers the toptechnology subjects without any
political agenda.
We verify the facts, we do asense of humor in less than 60
minutes.
And of course, with a littlewhiskey on the side.
Today, Mark Gregoire, ourwhiskey connoisseurs in the
studio.
Mark, what do we have today?
It's a little different.
We haven't poured the whiskeyyet.
So what?
Marc Grégoire (21:56):
I was gonna ask you, how was the whiskey during
the break?
Nathan Mumm (21:58):
I was gonna say, I haven't we can't screwing my
words yet, so I don't know Idon't know what to do.
Marc Grégoire (22:03):
Nice.
Well, today we're gonna bedrinking Little Book, the
Infinite Edition One.
It's a special bottle that Ibought for a special reason.
And so we are doing a freshcork pop, which we've never done
on the show before.
Oh, okay.
Mike Gorday (22:16):
Is that what you're thankful for, Mark?
Marc Grégoire (22:17):
Is fresh pops?
Oh, I'm new milestones, man.
Nathan Mumm (22:21):
This is new milestones.
Marc Grégoire (22:22):
I like milestones.
Yes, here we go.
Oh, it's taking the wask.
You ready for the pop?
You don't need liquor to slurrywords.
Oh, look at that pop.
Nathan Mumm (22:33):
That sounded fantastic.
Marc Grégoire (22:34):
Now I'll hand it to you, Mike.
You can pour it for everybodywhile I tell everybody a little
about this.
Give me your glasses.
There you go.
Thanks, Mike.
From Jim Bean's website, ourvery first edition, the liquid
that will form the foundation ofthe Infinity Barrel.
Once a year we'll bottle someup for the world to try, then
explore how to push the profileforward through blending.
So savor this whiskey today andcome back in a year for its
(22:57):
next evolution.
It lays the groundwork fornotes of oak, char, and smoke.
Then brings in rich flavors ofdark fruit, cherry, and brown
sweets.
And it's all rounded out withthe bourbon where caramel,
vanilla, and baking spices notesreally shine through.
Perfectly balanced yet unlikeanything we've made before.
So this is from Beamson Tori.
(23:18):
It's the Jim Bean Distillery inClaremont, Kentucky.
Straight bourbon.
It's a blend of straightbourbons.
They are aged seven to twentyyears.
Okay.
Nathan Mumm (23:27):
Wow.
That is it.
It says come on back here in ayear.
So do you add a differentflavor to it in the year?
Marc Grégoire (23:33):
We will talk about that in the mumble, so
stay tuned.
Nathan Mumm (23:36):
Okay, because I was kind of curious because this is
the original, right?
So this is the unaltered.
This is the unaltered.
Marc Grégoire (23:41):
This is edition one.
This is the start.
This one is 119.3 proof.
And it is a blend of fourbourbons.
So as we mentioned, those fourbourbons range from seven years.
So one is seven years, one'stwenty years, and the other two
are in between.
And it goes for MSRP of $200.
Mike Gorday (23:59):
Wow.
Well, it needs it needs alittle more air.
Marc Grégoire (24:02):
It does.
Well, we'll let it air out abit.
Nathan Mumm (24:05):
It has a good finish.
It has a good finish.
A little bit of a little bit ofa bite.
A little bit of a bite.
Marc Grégoire (24:10):
Well, it's almost 120 proof.
And it's the first drink of theday for us.
So yeah.
Nathan Mumm (24:14):
Well, at least the first drink of the day that we
publish online.
That's right.
Marc Grégoire (24:21):
Now don't forget to like and subscribe.
Drink responsibly.
Heaven can wait.
Nathan Mumm (24:25):
Thank you so much, Mark.
This will let's see if thisopens up.
Reason a little bit.
You know, they we're getting uptons of culture.
You know what?
I don't I don't know if I cango.
I don't know if I can handleall this.
All this culture.
Yeah, is is this a new thingthat whiskey places are doing,
or is this something that alwayshappens where they have a uh a
bottle like this?
I've never heard of like afirst edition and opening it and
doing that.
So is that new, Mark?
Marc Grégoire (24:46):
Well, the opening it on the air, you'll
find out more in the mumbles.
That's a personal thing.
Okay.
Mike Gorday (24:52):
Yeah, everybody has to open up their liquor
bottles.
Marc Grégoire (24:54):
This is one of the first new ones where they're
trying to create like aninfinity bottle and on and on.
Now, different editions, a lotof whiskeys have different
editions, first edition second.
Nathan Mumm (25:04):
I mean, all the Lyra Craig's and Larceny's and
So is the idea that you neverhave the bottle empty and that
you're always filling it withdifferent stuff?
Marc Grégoire (25:13):
Well, that's that's kind of the home affinity
bottle.
So when you have some people,when they first pop it, they'll
pour the first ounce like intothis bottle of every whiskey
that they take.
And then other people do it atthe very end, like the very last
pour, and then it just kind ofmixes it.
Mike Gorday (25:28):
Is that like restaurants putting ketchup into
older ketchup bottles?
Is that what you're talkingabout?
Marc Grégoire (25:33):
A little bit, a little bit.
And then so every time you goand drink from your infinity
bottle, it tastes differentbecause you're continually
adding different lower.
Nathan Mumm (25:41):
It's kind of like a starter and you keep on having
different things.
It's kind of like you know, allright.
Thank you so much for thattasting there, Mark.
With our first whiskey tastingcompleted, let's move on to our
feature segment.
Today, our technology expert.
Are you okay, Mike?
I've no okay, all right.
I'm thankful for thankful foryou, Nathan, and your ability to
talk the way you do.
(26:02):
All right, today our technologyexpert, Nick Espinoza, is
joining the show.
Nick is an expert incybersecurity and network
infrastructure.
He has consulted with clientsranging from small business to
the Fortune 100 level.
In 1998, at the age of 19, Nickfounded Wendy City Networks,
which was later acquired in2015.
He then created SecurityFanatics, where he's the chief
(26:22):
security fanatic.
We now welcome Nick to theshow.
Introduction (26:25):
This is a segment we call Ask the Experts.
Nathan Mumm (26:30):
All right, Nick.
Hey, we're so excited to haveyou.
Tell us a little bit aboutyourself to our new listeners.
We can see that you're in yourmain uh office location again.
The walls are a little bit uh alittle bit barren.
Uh explain maybe that to ourguest also.
Nick Espinosa (26:46):
Yes.
Well, I'm moving locations.
I finally bought the bunker onthe island I've always wanted.
Okay, and so by virtue of that,you can all find me by boat.
So looking forward to that.
Awesome.
There you go.
And also, can I just say Soiland Green is people?
Dude, spoilers, Mike.
I was gonna watch that nextweek.
Nathan Mumm (27:02):
Oh, sorry, man.
1970s movie spoilers.
Nick Espinosa (27:08):
All good, all good.
But no, I am I'm Nick Spinoza,the chief security fanatic of
security fanatics, like yousaid, and uh I'm always happy to
be here.
Nathan Mumm (27:15):
Whatever you do, if you're gonna watch a marathon
rerun, don't re-watch RunningMan with Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Wow.
That was you know, the newmovies coming on out, so I went
back to watch that.
Well, I'm just saying oldmovies when you sometimes go
back and watch them.
Wow.
Yeah, I just watched Smoky andthe Bandit yesterday.
Well, some of them are fun andsome of them are good.
But when you start usingtechnology and you're trying to
(27:36):
do this uh end of the worldscenario, and yeah, okay.
All right.
Well, Nick, you know what?
Let's talk about things thatwe're thankful for, right?
You know, this is our show, andnow today we are talking about
everything that we're thankfulfor because it's our
Thanksgiving episode.
So I'm sure you have manythings you're thankful for,
right?
Nick Espinosa (27:57):
Yes, yes, I am.
Nathan Mumm (27:59):
Yes, I am.
All right, so let's talk aboutwith some of the few of your top
items, Nick.
What is your most important andthankful item that you want to
share with on the show today?
Nick Espinosa (28:09):
Sure, sure.
And obviously, for the recordaudience, we are keeping this in
the cybersecurity world becauseI'm thankful for other things
outside of that as well.
But I am actually reallythankful for what is known as
the CVE database.
Um, and this is the CommonVulnerability and Exposures
Framework or CVE.
This basically assigns a uniquerecord to every reported
vulnerability on the entireplanet.
(28:31):
And it's been around since1999.
Essentially, what this did wasit codified the entire world on
the same platform forunderstanding what vulnerability
is.
It's so unbelievably important.
And we take it for granted.
And this year was no differentin terms of taking it to
granted, except earlier thisyear, while the Trump
(28:52):
administration's Doge was doingeverything, they were doing
their thing to like cut andslash absolutely everything and
shut down government departmentsand all of that.
The funding for the CVE wasactually cut.
Now, the CVE is run by anorganization called MITRE.
They're like aquasi-governmental organization,
and their funding comes fromthe US government.
At the 11th hour, do it aplease.
(29:13):
I actually put out an entirePowerPoint video on why the CVE
is like the most important thingever.
It got temporary funding back.
And so we're running ontemporary funding right now.
But if that goes away, this isa huge problem.
So it really underscores um theneed to have this funded, you
know, around the world.
But I'm really thankful thatthis database exists because
(29:35):
again, common vulnerability isso unbelievably important.
When the North Koreans hacksomething, we now all know
exactly what that vulnerabilityis and how to treat it, thanks
to the C VE.
So super, super important.
Nathan Mumm (29:50):
I don't know.
Nick Espinosa (29:50):
WebMD is maybe WebMD is the wrong reference.
Everybody's dying on WebMD,right?
Well, well, well, and dependingon the C V E, you're dying to.
So I'll take I'll take theanalogy.
I'll take the analogy.
Although I I will say thisWebMD did tell me I was dying at
one point in my mid-20s.
I woke up.
(30:11):
Basically, it's the day it'sthe day of one of my best
friend's weddings, and within anhour I was on the floor
writhing in pain, and like anerd, I didn't call 911.
I crawled to my laptop and Iwent to WebMD and it told me my
appendix exploded.
And I am grateful my appendixdid not explode, and I had a
kidney stone.
Mike Gorday (30:28):
But yeah, yeah, but that's what WebMD does.
It tells you you're dyinganyway from whatever everything.
Every symptom, yeah.
Nathan Mumm (30:35):
Every symptom and then headaches.
Mike Gorday (30:37):
Oh, you got brain cancer.
Okay.
Nathan Mumm (30:38):
And then go see the doctor.
It's always with the uh thecaveat, oh, go see your doctor.
So here's all the advice I'llgive you, but I I really can't
give you any of the advice, sogo see your doctor.
All right.
I'm sure though that that issomething that you're thankful
for.
Thank you for the expository.
I appreciate that.
Uh maybe I just looked at MD.
I had a little rash that I waslooking at, and I'm trying to
(30:59):
figure out what I did.
I had malaria, right?
I do.
All right.
Nick, I'm sure there'ssomething else internationally,
on the international level, thatyou would be thankful for,
right?
What do we have here?
Nick Espinosa (31:13):
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I am thankful for this.
So if you didn't know, and thisis just the other day, really
put things into perspective forme.
The police have arrested asuspection, uh suspected Russian
hacker on the island of Fouquetthat's in Thailand, who was
wanted by the FBI here in theUnited States on allegations he
was behind cyber attacks in theUS and Europe.
This really, I think to me,puts things into perspective
(31:37):
because I am grateful that wehave a ton of international law
enforcement cooperation aroundthe world.
We have Five Eyes, we haveInterpol, you know, the FBI
coordinates with you know all ofthe various agencies in Germany
that are federal, and we areable to basically go after
criminals wherever they are.
This is a guy that you knowleft Russia, was being tracked
by international law enforcementon behalf of the FBI, landed in
(32:01):
Thailand, you know, and theThai authorities, in cooperation
with everything else, uheverybody else basically
arrested this guy.
I mean, I think that reallyshows that that you know,
whatever the state of the world,most countries are still united
by a common legal frameworkthat will not shelter cyber
criminals.
And I think that's great.
And we have some outliers, youknow, we all know the Russians
(32:23):
and the North Koreas of theworld, but I hope for the most
part the world continues, youknow, to to cooperate
internationally on legalenforcement.
And quite frankly, I hope thatnever changes.
So I'm very thankful for thatas well.
Mike Gorday (32:35):
So we got a legal hack for hackers.
Nathan Mumm (32:38):
Well, that's well, oh yeah, yeah, so so you're
talking internationally.
What about Dubai?
We we talked about them nowhaving taxi services at the top
of the the how are how are theyas a nation area for cyber
criminals?
Nick Espinosa (32:52):
Well, so the the problem that we have coming from
the Middle East is that is thatwhat we have essentially um is
shelter among a lot of differentcountries for various extremist
groups.
And by virtue of that, we'veseen the sheltering of things
like Al-Qaeda, ISIS, and all ofthat.
I'm not blaming any onegovernment or another, but you
know, we have a serious problemwith that.
(33:13):
So, for example, the leaders ofHamas uh during this entire
Israeli-Gaza conflict, whateveryou want to call it, I'm not
adjudicating that, they wereliving in Qatar.
So, so they were outside thearea of operations as their
people were basically just beingbombed and bombed and bombed.
So the Middle East, in and ofitself, not just Dubai, um, you
know, or the United ArabEmirates has you know has this
(33:36):
problem.
It's a systemic issue.
Look at Yemen, look at Oman.
There, there's you know, it'sit's there's a lot of places
there that are that are aredifficult for that.
But you know, we also have alot of international cooperation
among governments, though, aswell.
Right?
So we'll see what happensthere.
Nathan Mumm (33:51):
All right.
Now now, you know what?
We're gonna start kind ofmoving on to our next topic
here.
So you got your cybercriminals, your state-sponsored
threats that are taken care of.
Nick, what are you thankful forin the realm of AI?
Nick Espinosa (34:06):
Oh Lord.
Well, I'm looking as a as a fatAmerican, I'm looking forward
to my robot shoes powered by AIthat'll that'll let me run a
mile.
Yeah, and I'm gonna be able todo that like you, I got bad
knees, man.
So but uh, but no, I myhonestly though, I think one of
the biggest boons um tocybersecurity is artificial
(34:27):
intelligence.
We've had a a big push over theyears to really integrate AI
into things like threatdetection and threat
intelligence, and this year hasreally seen it being
supercharged.
And so the front end ofcybersecurity and cyber warfare
is AI fighting AI.
And so the more that we arebaking in AI into the threat and
detection um, you know,services, the more we're using
(34:49):
it, you know, to automatethings, the better and faster
we're gonna be against the cybercriminals.
And I mean, this is this is Ithink such an important thing
that most people don'tunderstand.
You know, you go download your$20 antivirus, you think your
computer is Fort Knox, it's not.
You know, we have artificialintelligence that is innovating
around that, which means we needartificial intelligence to
understand that innovation aswell.
(35:10):
So I'm I'm very thankful inthat realm for artificial
intelligence and and how it isbasically supercharging or
starting to supercharge ourdefensive technologies.
And I think that that needs tocontinue and it needs to
increase, you know, and despitemy issues with you know
artificial intelligence and the800 billion data centers we need
to run it, you know, not tomention electricity and water
(35:32):
and everything else, I am gladfor this aspect of it.
And so I think it's uh I thinkthat's a good thing.
Nathan Mumm (35:37):
That's great.
That's great.
So you know what?
AI in the right direction canbe useful.
Yeah, well, yeah, yeah.
Technology exists.
Now, Nick, when you guys areusing it, what type of language
models do you kind of use foryour threat detection?
Are you guys using a standardor using anthropics kind of
hidden behind the wall?
What do you guys use for yourAI threat detection that you
(36:00):
personally at Security Fanaticsrecommend or use?
Nick Espinosa (36:03):
Yeah, so so I don't publicly recommend
products only because we vet ourproducts every 90 days.
Okay.
And so what I recommend now,somebody uses, and a year later,
like, Nick, you're an idiot.
This got me hacked.
It's like, well, dude, Ihaven't recommended that in six
months.
But I will say this some ofsome of the more advanced
systems out there, the moreenterprise-level threat
intelligence systems, areactually creating their own
(36:25):
machine learning and deeplearning models that are based
on an understanding of what arecalled IOCs or indicators of
compromise.
This is also one of the reasonswhy the CVE database is beyond
important because this issomething that artificial
intelligence can train on.
Think about having every knownvulnerability going back, you
know, 25, 30 years in one shotthat the AI can start to
(36:48):
understand and start to makevariants on, say, oh, well, they
did it this way, they might beable to do it this way as well.
That's why CVE is so important.
That's why artificialintelligence is so important.
Because I or any other humancould not possibly memorize all
of that and then think of thethousands and thousands of
variations on thosevulnerabilities like an AI can.
So those companies that are notleveraging just, oh yeah, we're
(37:09):
just baking in Chat GPT to thisthing.
And I mean, there are aspectsof that that are important, but
but creating your own deeplearning um uh threat
intelligence system that isallowed to self-execute to
prevent infection to preventhacking is the name of the game.
And I think that's that's superimportant.
Nathan Mumm (37:26):
Perfect.
See, Nick Nick's thankful formany different things.
So we're all thankful.
That's better than theHalloween show.
Nick Espinosa (37:34):
The Halloween's different animal, man.
Different audiences.
I mean, you want this to turninto Halloween, start playing
Mariah Carey right now for me,and you'll you'll see different
things.
Mike Gorday (37:45):
No, I'm I'm okay with Halloween only being once a
year, man.
Nathan Mumm (37:49):
I love Halloween.
How do you how can people getin touch with you?
How can they maybe talk to youabout all the craziness from the
Halloween special?
Where would they go to connectwith you off of the show?
Nick Espinosa (38:01):
Yeah, yeah.
You can like, share, follow me.
Uh you know, Facebook, Twitter,LinkedIn, YouTube slash Nick
Espinoza.
It's mostly slash Nick Espinozaor slash Nick A Esp on your
social media platform of choice,except for TikTok.
Never TikTok.
Never TikTok.
But uh, other than that, comehang out.
I love saying hi.
All right, Nick.
Nathan Mumm (38:18):
Until you're in Australia.
Until you're in Australia.
Then then he'll be safe.
Well, uh we'll see if thatreally takes itself off.
Yeah, we'll see.
What happens when youself-penalize companies?
Either A, they decide to pullor B, the checks in the mail.
Yeah, we'll see how that worksout.
All right, that ends oursegment.
That's right.
Yeah, we all know we know thattoo.
Yeah.
(38:38):
All right.
That ends our segment with Askthe Expert with Nick up.
Now we have Mike's mesmerizingmoment.
Segment (38:45):
Welcome to Mike's mesmerizing moment.
What does Mike have to saytoday?
Nathan Mumm (38:52):
All right, Mike.
I kind of asked you a littlebit about this when the article
came on up, but would you usewalking assisted shoes or some
other kind of device that helpsstimulate workout movements to
help you or to help other peopleexercise?
Mike Gorday (39:06):
I think that depends on what's going on.
Like for for somebody who isyounger and in better shape or
doesn't have a lot of physicalailments, I don't think that's I
don't think that's a good wayto help out.
But if you have somebody likeme who almost 30 years doing
martial arts, I I used to do alot of extreme sports.
(39:27):
My knees are gone.
So wearing something thatassists me going up and down the
stairs, that might be helpful.
Uh but as a rule, I would say Iwould say this is not something
that you would use to remoteexercise because it all boils
down to uh taking effort off ofthe musculature, the
musculoskeletal system, uh-huh,and placing it in a device that
(39:51):
doesn't give you the samebenefits.
What it always boils down to iswhat is it being used for the
technology, the technologyexists for a purpose.
What is the purpose?
Okay, that makes sense.
Nathan Mumm (40:04):
Right?
Mike, you thanks for thatmesmerizing moment up next.
We have this week intechnology, so now would be a
great time to enjoy a littlewhiskey on the side as we will
be doing so during the breakwith as it's been breathing.
You're listening to Tech TimeRadio with Nathan Mum.
See you in a few minutes.
Hey Mike.
Yeah, what's up?
Hey, so you know what?
We need people to start likingour uh social media pages.
Mike Gorday (40:22):
If you like our show, if you really like us, you
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Or is it Patreon?
I think it's Patreon.
Okay, Patreon.
If you really like us, you cansay I'm the English guy
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I butcher the English language?
You know you butcher theEnglish language.
Okay, so it's all the time.com.
Mike Gorday (40:41):
Patreon.com.
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If you really like if you really like our show, you
can subscribe to Patreon.comand help us out.
Oh, and you can visit us onthat Facebook platform.
You know the one thatZuckerberg owns?
The one that we always bag on?
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Like and subscribe to our social media.
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Like us today.
We need you to like us.
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Like us and subscribe.
Nathan Mumm (41:20):
That's it.
That's it.
That's that simple.
Segment (41:24):
And now, let's look back at this week in technology.
Nathan Mumm (41:29):
All right, and the Wayback Machine, we're going to
November 26, 1996.
MP3s take over the music world.
On this day, the U.S.
gave a patent to GermansFraunhofer Institute for
something called a digitalencoding process.
That's a fancy way of sayingthe birth of MP3.
Before MP3, music files werehuge.
(41:50):
You couldn't fit many songs onyour computer or early portable
players.
The firm figured out how toshrink these files down while
keeping the sound good enoughfor everyday listening.
Suddenly you could carryhundreds of songs instead of
just a handful.
The work started all the wayback in the late 70s, and by the
mid-80s, they had cracked thecode.
(42:10):
In 1996, the US Patent made itofficial.
And if it's still going strongtoday, even after these years,
MP3 is around to stay.
It's not going anywhere.
Sure, we get newer formats withsharper sound, but MP3 wins on
a simplicity and compatibilitythat plays on almost anything,
including phones, cars,computers, smart speakers, and
(42:33):
any other little device.
So when you think about anabster or iTunes or iPod, just
remember none of this would havehappened without MP3.
So nearly 30 years later, it'sproof that sometimes the
simplest tech is the one thatlasts.
Alright, that was this week inTechnology.
If you ever wanted to watchsome Tech Time history with over
270 plus weekly broadcastsspanning our four plus years of
(42:55):
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The segment we've been waiting all week for.
Mark's Whiskey Mumble.
Alright.
Nathan Mumm (43:43):
Yeah, yeah, okay.
What do we got today for ourour our our day of the week?
I don't know.
Mark's kind of relaxing overhere, man.
Marc Grégoire (43:50):
November 25th, whatever.
Nathan Mumm (43:52):
Is it what is it?
Is it a nonchalant day?
Marc Grégoire (43:54):
Oh, pretty close.
Nathan Mumm (43:55):
Uh uh.
National I don't give a crapday.
Marc Grégoire (43:59):
Very close.
What's what's the French wordfor all that?
Uh oh, what do you say thereare a French word?
Toilette.
Mike Gorday (44:05):
No, I don't know.
Marc Grégoire (44:06):
Blase day.
Blase.
Mike Gorday (44:09):
Okay, well.
Marc Grégoire (44:09):
Blas.
Mike Gorday (44:10):
You do blasé very well, Mark.
Thank you.
Marc Grégoire (44:12):
It's a wonderful, weird holiday,
clearly invented for Mike.
A day when the effortlessworldly can roll their eyes at
anything that fails to meettheir impossibly high standards.
So go ahead, revel in callingthings meh.
Enjoy being unimpressed.
Take comfort in not pretendinganything is amazing like AI.
Today, being delightfullyunderwhelmed is the point.
Mike Gorday (44:35):
I think that's a mischaracterization, buddy.
I like I want to yell people toget off my grass.
Except I have to do it at thecity park because I don't have a
I don't have a lawn.
Nathan Mumm (44:45):
Now you can buy shoes that will help you get
upstairs quicker.
Meh.
All right, tell us more, Mark.
Marc Grégoire (44:51):
Well, what am I not blasé about?
Uh whiskey.
Liquor.
Okay, those are all true.
But however, today I'm hittingmy one-year work anniversary.
Oh.
And that's why we're finallyopening the special bottle I
bought the minute my offerletter hit my inbox.
It's been a year already.
Yes, it has.
(45:12):
I've been staring at this for12 long months.
And now I finally got to crackit open and share it with my
friends here today.
Nathan Mumm (45:22):
Wow.
Marc Grégoire (45:23):
So I'm sharing it with you guys.
My work.
I'm really gonna be blasé aboutit.
My friends and my radio showpeople.
And then right after this, I'msharing it with my work friends
and my work team.
Oh, really?
We're having a little gettogether right after this.
Oh, wow, fantastic.
Celebrating.
That sounds great.
Nathan Mumm (45:40):
Translation.
Real friends.
Well, you know what?
We're all friends together.
Now, tell us a little bit aboutthis.
All right.
Marc Grégoire (45:48):
Little book, The Infinite Edition One, marks the
first ever line expression forthe brand, and its inaugural
release in this new series.
The blend brings together fourbourbons representing three
generations of the No family.
Grandfather, father, and son.
Booker, Fred, and Freddie No,beam sixth, seventh, and eighth
generation master distillersalong with one shared family
(46:12):
component.
For this first batch, 70% ofthe blend was bottled while the
remaining 30% was stored in atank to halt aging.
That tank portion becomes afoundation for a yearly release
with each new addition layeringin an additional component and
evolving the series into a trulyinfinite whiskey blend.
Okay.
So did that answer yourquestion?
(46:32):
Yeah.
Thank you.
Mike Gorday (46:36):
I'm just gonna be blasé the rest of the day.
Marc Grégoire (46:38):
I love it, Mike.
Now, this whiskey islegitimately impressive for me.
It hits with a full, rich body,carries deep layered layered
flavors, and delivers a long,satisfying finish that sticks
around all the way the rightways.
The blending work really shows.
It drinks bigger and moremature than the age statement
would suggest, and everythingfeels intentionally and dialed
(46:59):
in.
For me, this would easily landin my top five pours of the
year.
It is one of those rare bottleswhere the story, the
craftsmanship, and the flavorall line up and deliver exactly
what you hope for.
All right.
Woohoo! Fantastic.
I don't know if you guys areinto it as much, but I am uh
third.
You know what?
Nathan Mumm (47:13):
You need to you actually need to let it breathe.
The very first taste that I hadof that was nasty.
Marc Grégoire (47:17):
Well, that's usually why we never do fresh
crook pops.
Usually when I bring a bottlein, even if I've bought it
recently, I will open it, let itbreathe, do a pour or two
before I bring it in.
Nathan Mumm (47:26):
Because it's way different than the the the first
10 seconds of the whiskingtechnology are such a great
pairing.
Like Russell sprouts and greenbean casseroles for your holiday
feast.
Marc Grégoire (47:39):
How is that a pairing?
Horrible.
Well, these are the best twothings of Thanksgiving.
Mike Gorday (47:46):
Okay.
Coming from you, that's wrong.
That's that's Odie, what do yousay?
Nathan Mumm (47:50):
What do you got?
Ody (47:51):
Like pumpkin pie and whipped cream.
Nathan Mumm (47:53):
Oh Odie gets it.
Ody (47:56):
I get it.
Nathan Mumm (47:56):
No, you don't.
You know what?
For the nerds out there.
You don't like Brusselssprouts.
I don't know what you'retalking about.
Ody (48:01):
Potatoes and gravy, like stuffing and turkey.
They were all there.
Nathan Mumm (48:06):
That's so easy that we have just passed those by
for something a little bit morecomplicated.
Mike Gorday (48:11):
Do you like you like Brussels sprouts or do you
like Brussels sprouts that arecooked in bacon grease and not
bacon on the side?
Nathan Mumm (48:18):
I actually will actually eat Brussels sprouts
raw.
You can actually grate them asa part of a salad, like I have
trouble seeing that.
Mike Gorday (48:24):
I have trouble believing that.
I think that's like some sortof mystery thing that you like
to.
I can just see you going downinto you know the kitchen and be
like, Yeah, dips them in ranch.
Probably.
Marc Grégoire (48:35):
We just had shaved Brussels sprouts in a
salad.
We went out.
Uh my wife and daughter wentout to see Wicked uh last
Thursday.
Oh opening or close to openingnight.
Say did I?
Woo! Woo! And we went outafterwards to celebrate, I
guess, them watching the secondpart of Wicked.
Okay.
And uh we had that salad.
It's delicious.
Fantastic.
All right, well, there you go.
But it was a terrible pairing.
Nathan Mumm (48:57):
Yeah.
Now let's prepare for ourtechnology fail the week brought
to you by Elite ExecutiveServices.
Congratulations.
Segment (49:03):
You're a failure.
Oh, I failed.
Did I?
Yes.
Did I?
Yes.
Nathan Mumm (49:10):
This week I'm thankful for companies pulling
products that are not gearedtoward their intended audience.
Today, our technology failcomes to us from a toy company
trying to push AI toys.
Sales from an AI-powered teddybear that's been suspended after
alarming safety concerns.
Freddie.
Now the company behind the toyscalled Foil Toy pulled the
product from the shelvesfollowing a customer's watchdog
(49:32):
report.
Investigators found that thetoy would freely discuss actual
explicit topics, including BDSM,and even give advice to finding
knives or matches.
One of the toys that was ateddy bear named Kuma, and a
panda named Moma, a rabbit namedFOFA, and a dancing little
cactus.
Mike Gorday (49:52):
All of them are Momo and FOFO.
Nathan Mumm (49:53):
And none of them are available online.
I tried to buy these devicesall over everywhere.
I could, yeah, I could.
Well, that's the problem.
They used ChatGPT 4.0 model,which you know you can pretty
much ask it just about anything.
It had no real hard limits onit.
And so essentially you couldask it.
It would tell you how to killthings, it would tell you how to
do this.
It was just an open version ofChatGPT 4.0 for your four, five,
(50:15):
and six-year-old to explore theworld with.
Mike Gorday (50:18):
The revenge of Teddy Ruxpin.
Nathan Mumm (50:20):
There you go.
All right.
Well, you know what?
Let's move right now onto ourNathan nugget.
This is your nugget of theweek.
All right, to be followed up,of course, by our Secret Sound.
So we got our technologypurchases to pass on for Black
Friday.
So let's talk about it.
This is the time that you canpurchase and probably would like
(50:41):
to purchase a laptop.
This is the time to get a goodlaptop at a steal of a deal.
There's the Apple MacBook Air,which is under $950 for Black
Friday's sales on Amazon.
You can buy a Dell laptop for$14 for $749.
That was like $1,200 just acouple weeks ago.
And you can even buy a budgetlaptop for a Dell 15 laptop that
(51:03):
you can see at Dell and Speran,anywhere between $299 to $399,
normally sold for $799 at BestBuy.
Do take a look at some cellphone deals, but do not purchase
a new TV.
This is not the time topurchase a TV.
The time to purchase a TV isduring the Super Bowl weekend.
That's when you get the bestdeals and the best TVs.
(51:25):
If you purchase a TV now, youare going to be purchasing about
the same sales price that youwould have gotten for a Super
Bowl of this year at the sameprice point.
So do not do that.
But now let's move on to oursecret sound.
All right, that is our extendedsound that nobody has guessed
(51:50):
that sound yet.
Nobody has called in.
Nobody has gone to techtimeradio.com, clicked on the
microphone.
I do know that there's somelongtime listeners that are kind
of waiting for this episode toair, and they may immediately do
it.
So if you know what the soundis, immediately right now, jump
online, go to techtimeradio.com, click on the contact
(52:14):
us and leave a message.
Marc Grégoire (52:16):
You better hurry up.
Whiskey Chris knows what it is,I think.
Does he?
And he was gonna he ping me andhe was gonna do it after last
week's show.
He figured it out, he thinks.
Okay.
And he's like, oh, but nobodyelse's guess.
I might just wait another weekor two and get more money.
Mike Gorday (52:30):
Yeah, trying to do that.
I said you better hurry.
Nathan Mumm (52:34):
Yeah.
All right.
Well, you know what?
Let's now move to our pick ofthe day whiskey tasting.
Introduction (52:39):
And now our pick of the day for our whiskey
tastings.
Let's see what bubbles to thetop.
Marc Grégoire (52:47):
All right.
What is not Blaser meh isLittle Book, The Infinite
Edition One.
And just for those listeners,they just released, I think last
month, Edition Two.
Okay.
I've not been able to procureyet.
This is from Beams from Tory.
It's straight bourbon, a blendof four bourbons from age seven
to twenty years, 119.3 proof.
(53:08):
MSRP was two thousand two twohundred dollars.
Two thousand dollars.
Nathan Mumm (53:12):
Wow.
Marc Grégoire (53:13):
Two hundred dollars.
Nathan Mumm (53:14):
Well, Mike, what do you give it?
A thumbs up.
Uh I'm gonna give it a thumbsup.
Okay.
You know what?
I would have given it a thumbsdown at the very first pour.
Um knowing the information inthere.
Mike Gorday (53:25):
It's in the right glass, Mark.
Nathan Mumm (53:27):
It is in the right glass.
I I have decided to.
Mike Gorday (53:29):
If you put it in the beer glass, it would be a
thumbs down.
Ody (53:32):
This is his way of being a connoisseur.
Okay.
Marc Grégoire (53:35):
What's that?
It does need to open up.
Ody (53:37):
It does.
Marc Grégoire (53:38):
So I've had a few tastes of it, not from this
bottle, of course, but fromother bottles I've been open a
while, and it really comesalive.
But a lot of the whiskeys thatwe have here, you have to open
and let sit for about a month.
Nathan Mumm (53:48):
That makes sense.
Marc Grégoire (53:49):
But I am gonna grab this bottle as we end the
show and run over to my uh workand we're gonna have a little
celebration.
Well, congratulations.
Uh, you're at your new job.
Yes, it's uh been a great jobanymore.
I know, it's been a great year,and this next year looks to be
even better.
There you go.
Nathan Mumm (54:04):
All right.
Well, we want to thank all ofour listeners for joining the
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Thank you so much, guys.
I am thankful for my greatstaff here at Tech Time Radio.
Oh, we're staff, okay.
Yeah, okay.
Oh boy, okay.
Boy, you know what?
Not sure if that re that's veryrevealing.
You know what?
From all of us, you know what?
Have a great Thanksgivingweekend.
(54:46):
Later.
Bye-bye.
Introduction (54:48):
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