The digital landscape is shifting beneath our feet, and nowhere is this more evident than in the migration from X to Blue Sky. Our latest episode dives deep into this phenomenon while comparing it to another "killer" debate - Smoke Eye Barrel Proof versus George T. Stag bourbon.
With Blue Sky reaching 32 million users against X's 570 million, raw numbers don't tell the full story. At Emerald City Comic Con, a major Pacific Northwest event drawing nearly 100,000 attendees, we witnessed something remarkable - exhibitors and attendees actively avoiding X handles and exclusively requesting Blue Sky accounts. This grassroots movement suggests something profound is happening in how people connect online.
But what's driving this shift? While initially following political divides with left-leaning users gravitating toward Blue Sky, the migration is evolving as scientists and others seeking accurate information join the platform. Blue Sky appears to be recapturing the spirit of early Twitter - before excessive content controls but with enough moderation to maintain information integrity. With Instagram-like features already available (though still lacking streaming capabilities), Blue Sky is positioning itself as a return to social media's more functional past.
Will Blue Sky truly become the X-killer? Like our whiskey comparison (where George T. Stag remains superior despite Smoke Eye's "killer" marketing), the answer lies in user preference and adoption. Major sports organizations still exclusively share roster information on X, forcing fans to maintain a presence there. But as Blue Sky continues developing features and attracting diverse users, we may be entering an era of specialized platforms serving different needs - a healthier digital ecosystem where meaningful choices exist rather than one-size-fits-all environments.
What's your experience with Blue Sky? Have you made the switch or are you waiting to see how the platform evolves? Share your thoughts and join us next time for another exploration of technology's impact on our connected lives.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Neat Tech presented to you by Nathan Mumm
and Mark Gregoire.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
starting now, Welcome to Neat Tech, where whiskey
meets innovation.
Pour yourself a glass and getready for Neat Tech, the newest
Tech Time radio segment, wherewe sip on a whiskey and dive
into cutting-edge tech topics.
Each episode we'll explore howtechnology and spirits share a
common thread.
Each pour has a story and everybite of tech connects the way
we experience the world.
(00:26):
So sit back, sip neat and joinus for a bold conversation about
whiskey and the technologyshaping our future.
Neat Whiskey, smart Tech noChaser.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
All right.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Now, today we are pouring Smoke Eye Barrel Proof,
a whiskey that's been makingwaves as a George T Stag killer
in bourbon circles.
Put that claim to the test.
We'll be comparing it to theregular stag scene If it truly
lives up to the hype.
While we savor these bold pores, we'll dive into another
so-called killer, the blue skysocial media platform, with many
(00:59):
hoping it can be the next bigalternative to X, formerly
Twitter.
We'll break down its features,potential impact and whether it
has what it takes to disrupt thespace.
So is Smoke Eye really a stagkiller, and can Blue Sky take
down X?
Let's sip, discuss and find out, all right.
So, nathan, one of yourprevious episodes of the
full-time Tech Time Radio, youactually had this whiskey, the
(01:23):
Smoke Eye.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Hill Barrel, proof barrel proof.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
All right, and you gave it a thumbs down.
I did so for you.
I would say it's definitely nota stag killer.
So we have both pours here.
You don't know which glass iswhich, all right, and then at
the end we'll see which one youprefer and see if it killed stag
now we talked on the last showthat this smoke eye is 134.7
proof, so it is one of the moreproofiest ones that we've had.
(01:47):
Okay, this particular stag forthose out there, it is the 24C
batch and this is 128.9.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Okay, I already know I have a favorite already that
I'm working towards.
But there you go, we can see it.
Maybe it'll change, but I don't.
Maybe it'll change, but I don'tthink it develops over the.
Okay, all right all right.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So, nathan, let's talk about blue sky versus
twitter.
All right, I'm curious on yourtake on this.
So, as of uh, roughly recently,x has reported they got about
570 million a month active users.
Yeah, in contrast, blue sky hasreached over only 32 million
users.
Yep, but people are talkingabout it.
Better killer.
Those are huge discrepancy inthe numbers.
(02:27):
Still there is.
Tell me about the trends, allright.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
So let me just tell you they're in Seattle area
because we broadcast out of ourmain studio.
Out of Seattle there's a biggeek event going on this weekend
which is called Emerald CityComic Con.
Not the best geek event.
Seattle no not as good as GeekFest West, which is probably the
premier geek event in thePacific Northwest, but a very
large event.
They have anywhere between80,000 to 100,000 people that
(02:54):
attend this event in the PacificNorthwest region.
Idaho comes, portland area,comes all the way down to
probably Northern California tocome to this event.
It's all about comics, it's allabout people dressing up in
cosplay.
So we're out there.
We've sent a bunch of staffmembers that work on the Geek
Fest event that I do, and aswe're going around to all the
(03:16):
booths, guess what?
They no longer want to know howto connect with you on X.
It is forbidden and bannedliterally from the show, and all
they're asking for is what isyour blue sky account?
Because we want to share thatand connect with that.
For the event itself, they havecompletely blocked.
(03:36):
This whole event is completelyblocked.
Hey, we can get a head.
Uh, contact me on social media,on Facebook, and they're like
no.
And I say, well, you cancontact us through X.
No, you can contact us throughour website is an okay response,
but everybody wants to knowtheir blue sky account.
So I have a blue sky account.
(03:57):
Our event that we put on yearlyhas a blue sky account, which
was requested so that we had to.
I didn't even think about it atthe time.
Account which was requested sothat we had to.
I didn't even think about it atthe time.
Tech Time Radio has a Blue Skyaccount.
So I can tell you that themovement that is happening from
a consumer to consumerengagement, a consumer to even
small business engagement, isblocking the ability for people
(04:18):
to use X or wanting even toengage with X, and they're
asking people about Blue Sky.
All right, so for thisconference that you're talking
about, was it that the attendeesX, or wanting even to engage
with X, and they're askingpeople about blue sky?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
All right.
So for this conference thatyou're talking about, was it
that the attendees were pushingfor blue sky or the event itself
?
Speaker 1 (04:32):
So it's the attendees that wanted to have a blue sky
account.
When you signed up and how youcould connect with, and then, as
you went to each of thesebooths, they had like 400
exhibitors that were presentingwith different stuff.
What they would ask for is, asyou would have a conversation
with them, is what's your bluesky account?
So there's a whole undergroundmovement, not from the
convention itself, but from theactual exhibitors, of saying
(04:54):
that we're no longer going totry to connect with people on
social media.
On X, if you don't have a bluesky account, get one.
Blue sky was there doing somesponsorships, so it probably
helped out also.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Right.
So what's driving that?
So we'll talk a little bit more.
What's driving a lot of peopleto Blue Sky?
But this is a little different.
These are businesses that aremoving.
We've talked about left versusright before.
Why are the businesses lookingto Blue Sky versus X?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Well, so I don't think X is going to go anywhere.
So I want to say that I don'tthink X is going to go anywhere
because major organizations useX, unless you can get rid of the
NFL, the NBA, all thesecelebrities that go on out and
post on X.
If you are having that still asyour primary, main source of
(05:39):
information that you get, peoplewill still use X.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
So that makes sense because it's no different than
the bourbons we're drinking here, even though we probably will
decide that it's not a stagkiller, okay, and my guess is
you're going to like the stagquite a bit more.
That other bourbon's not goingaway, it's still decent juice.
Yeah, maybe not for the priceit's about $90.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
But at least you can find this one, while Stag or
Georgie Stag you'll never find.
But even these Stags are toughto find.
Okay, so there's still a placefor that one there's still a
place for it.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
So I think Exit will still have a place in the market
.
I do think that a social forsocial media apps TikTok two
years ago was just breakingthrough.
Maybe about three years ago nowwas just breaking through.
We talked about it on Tech TimeRadio.
Really, tiktok was like 2% ofthe market share.
When we started Tech Time Radioit was never going to make it
(06:28):
and now they have the majorityof the market share for short
videos.
So people will move to a socialmedia platform, in my opinion,
based upon who's on it and howmuch regularity it gets used.
And Blue Sky is coming out withsome killer Instagram apps.
They really need to spend sometime on what I would call a
streaming app.
(06:48):
They don't have a streaming appyet.
They need to be able to createthe same aspects that you can
with YouTube and with TikTok andsome of these other areas, in
my opinion, so we could streamour show there.
If we could do that, then I candrop paying a premium
subscription for X.
I'm not going to pay a $30 amonth subscription to Elon Musk
and his organization just forthe ability to stream on there
(07:10):
when I have other platforms BlueSky needs to come out with the
ability to do that and a coupleother features, and then they
will be, in my opinion, a socialmedia killer, because people
want to use that platform okay,so let's talk about a little bit
of the divide of the left andthe right, but before we do that
, we have a left and right glasshere so let's take another sip
all right which one are youleaning towards?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
uh, so I glenn karen, and the right is the uh like
the mini beer glass.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
So the mini beer glass.
So the mini beer glass theright well, with that cough.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I'm guessing you're thinking that is a smoke eye so
that.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
So that is not the one that I've been tending to
lean towards, as you can see, myeyes even watered up on that.
So the other glass is muchsmoother.
This flavor palette is mucheasier to handle.
So, yeah, I'm still so you leana little left.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I have a lot left, right now.
All right.
So talking about left and right, Well, I'll say I'm leaning a
little left also on this one.
Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Is that going to be a trend on the show?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
No.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I always take the left one?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
It is not.
It just happened to be the wayyou put the glasses down Left
versus right.
So blue sky most of the talkhas been blue sky.
Is all the people left leaningor jumping to blue sky?
The right really hasn't jumpedon it and it's turning more into
X being more right leaning andblue sky being left leaning.
Is that what you're seeing?
The trend continuing to be?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Or is it shifting?
Well, I think that's how I wasgoing to start out with.
I mean, just to be honest, Ithink the left liberal
organizations will probablyreally jump on blue sky quickly,
and I do think the rightpolarizing groups like the
ability that Elon Musk has X andit's a part of his portfolio
(08:58):
and will continue to use theplatform.
But mainstream America wants aplatform where they can get
their a information quickly andbe probably have the information
correct.
So I think those are the twokey aspects that people look for
.
X used to do probably too muchfiltering of what they
(09:20):
considered to be right orincorrect information and
blocked certain stuff from there.
uh, then, once elon purchased it, we talked about it on tech
time radio, he pretty muchremoved all of its community
based uh algorithms now to getrid of stuff.
So so I think I think the leftwill tend towards blue sky, but
(09:40):
I think the right will move toblue sky individuals if they
find that the information thatthey're looking for is there and
it's an easy place to get, orif they get bored on X cause
they have nobody to rail on.
So what does make a successfulplatform is is having both
extremes on it too, right?
So if you did, if you have alla bunch of right wing people on
(10:01):
there and you can't yell at anyleft wing people, well then
you're not going to have a greatamount of time of fun, and the
same happens for the other way.
So you really want to have thatkind of pull and tug message to
be the most successful and inin in the most desirable.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
You said a couple key things there.
That leads me to my nextquestion.
Okay, um.
So you talked about um,accuracy of information, and
that eventually it's going to benot just left-leaning but it's
going to be kind of a merger.
So I actually saw an articlethat was just published this
past week that actually talkedabout that and they said a large
group of scientists are nowmoving to blue sky, transition
away from x in the meta platform, for that exact reason is in a
(10:41):
lot of scientists right, left,they're a hybrid of everything,
yeah, but they're really lookingfor accurate information.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
And, as James Riddle talked on an episode recently,
you know you want scientificstudies to be accurate and not
to be faked, and so a lot ofthem are trending over there too
yeah, I, I think blue sky has areal opportunity to be the next
platform that replaces x ifthey continue to monitor and
(11:14):
kind of try to keep theinformation that was there and
just go back to kind of what Iwould say the original Twitter
was not X but the originalTwitter and not the Twitter that
then all of a sudden they putin a million and a half
safeguards.
But when Twitter first startedup it did a good job of actually
having smaller content peoplethat would go through and say
(11:35):
this is right, this isn't right.
If you look back to theelection campaign run between
Hillary Clinton and Trump, ifyou go back to that type of deal
, at that time Twitter tookinformation and isolated it
pretty well, to be honest.
And they went through and theysaid this is factual, this isn't
(11:55):
factual, this is factual,honest.
And they went through and theysaid this is factual, this isn't
factual, this is factual.
Kind of.
Uh reminds me of um, um, the tvshow that used to do fact or
fiction they would test stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
A myth busters thank you od there's our producer
behind.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
She's like you guys are idiots.
Um, that's right.
So yeah, like myth busters,right.
So?
So mythbusters.
I always enjoyed that, that tvgreat show, and the reason why
it was because they would takean idea and they say, is it true
or not true?
And a lot of time it wasplausible.
That was kind of their thing,which means it wasn't really
necessarily going to happen, butyou know what it could happen.
And then they would just gothrough miss and say no, this
(12:31):
can't happen, type of deal.
Twitter back in his early dayskind of had know what it was
plausible, we'll let it stillstay posted and didn't get all
hypersensitive about theinformation that was there.
And it's interesting becauseBlue Sky, even some of these
add-ons for Instagram and stuff,are just going back to the way
how technology was eight yearsago, ten years ago, when the
(12:52):
original application came on out, and trying to keep those
safeguards.
Because a lot of the times whensomebody comes up with a great
idea, uh, over time it evolvesand sometimes it gets worse
instead of getting better.
So we're kind of going back tothis time in the era where it's
a little bit more traditional Ilike that x doesn't feel right
now um, communicative andsupportive.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You know it's about people trump, you know, yelling
out their views.
Yeah, I was gonna say peopleyelling out their views.
I was going to say trumping outtheir views, but that was kind
of a Freudian slip, but itdoesn't do any good that the NBA
.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I'm a big NBA fan, right, I love sports.
The NBA only puts their rosterlineups on X.
So when they have a roster fora game coming on up, they put it
out on X.
These are the rosters.
Here's the starting players.
Here's what you have.
The NFL does the same thing.
Here's the people that are oninjured reserve.
Here's the people that areplaying.
I can't find that anywhere else.
So I, as a sports fan, have touse X to get that information
(13:48):
because they don't post it onBlue Sky.
So we'll see if that changes ornot or not.
Okay, Odie, just created anaccount last week while we were
on the show, so I friended her.
Odie, I'm going to throw itacross here.
I know you're.
Are you on the mic?
Can you put on the mic?
Have you used your BlueSkyaccount at all?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I have.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Okay, and what do you think of BlueSky?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
You know, until it becomes to the same popularity
of X, which it slowly is.
I know that I'm going to enjoyit.
At the moment, I do enjoy it.
I like the fact that they havethe Insta app, so they have that
, and they have their X version,blue Sky.
(14:29):
I like that about them, becauseboth of the other ones I just
hate okay there you go.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
So it's really the adoption they you have to get
the main players on there.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
That goes back to your earlier comment on tiktok.
When it was only two percent,you weren't sure what I was
going to do, but eventually itbecomes more adopted.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I love tiktok I mean, I know how to fix plumbing and
how to install a whole bunch ofhome remedy fixes.
Like you wouldn't believe that.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
What I love about TikTok is that you can find
anyone and everyone on TikTok.
It does not matter like the GenZ or whatever generation is
below me, or just millennials orjust Gen Xers.
There's a whole array of peopleon there and everyone is given
an equal opportunity to likemake it to the for you page.
I would not watch plumbingvideos.
(15:15):
I do watch plumbing videos.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I now know how to replace a pipe if it has a leak
in it, how you can come on it.
Yeah yeah, I watched three orfour videos.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
If I wanted to DIY my house, I think I'd have a good
idea of what to start with.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Now, not to go on a tangent, how is that different
than YouTube videos?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Oh my God, to go to go on a tangent.
How is that different?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
than like youtube videos, oh my god, youtube sucks
.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
One all the ads.
Two, it's all these people aretrying to get monetized, so they
make these super long videosand they're going over every
single little detail.
I don't want to go with you tothe store oh see, that's what I
love ads.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I love that ads really.
Yeah, yeah, I said I'm unusual.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I am an engineer by trade.
To me, the proof is in thedetails.
Okay, I love details.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I read instructions.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Do any of you guys read instructions?
I do the IKEA instructions,that's it.
Well, you can't read those.
They're just pictures.
That's exactly why I'm able toread those my wife does all the
ikea stuff okay because she isgreat, spatial and with pictures
.
I don't I need words, I need.
I love the words.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Well, so what happens ?
You know, I don't speak well,but I read well, okay, listen
I've seen people like, forexample, a couple days ago I
learned how to change do yourown oil change.
Perfect was a dad teaching hisdaughter how to do it.
It was quick and informativeand told me they went off topic
and they were able to keep itentertaining the whole time, but
I wasn't sitting there for 10minutes with them.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Once again.
One of my YouTube channels Iwatch is now shifting to that
kind of style because they said,people just want the
information.
They want it quick.
I watched a few of those.
I stopped watching that channelbecause it's it's not what I'm
looking for.
It's nothing wrong with it.
It's great for a lot of people,but I I want the details yeah,
I love, I love sports radio likethis, this, this thing right
(17:06):
here.
We could have done in twominutes, but we're sitting here
talking and chatting and I'menjoying this, yeah that's all
right.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
sports radio what do you?
Sports radio, what do you got?
I was going to say I lovesports radio and Tech Time Radio
.
The main show that I do isn'tquite sports radio because it's
got segments and they don't gooff and just kind of mirander
about certain people andindividuals.
But I love listening to thatbecause I also like the
personality.
So I don't mind having three orfour people that I've developed
(17:32):
a little bit of a personalityto, whether I like what they say
or I don't like what they say.
But I know how they're going toreact.
I know if they like something,I may not like something, and so
I like that long format ofgetting to know the person
itself.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I will say that sounds more like a podcast,
which is very popular yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
You know, long form is not obsolete.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
It's still very popular.
Yeah, you know, long form isnot obsolete, it's still very
popular.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
It's just when you're looking to learn something so I
guess that that helps wrap itup od okay, because in what I'm
hearing you, what I'm seeing iswe need options.
Yeah, so is blue sky reallygonna kill x?
Maybe, hopefully not no, butmaybe it gives people well okay,
that's a different story butbasically you need options.
(18:17):
Same with whiskey.
There's some people that lovethe smoke eye, even over stag
and george t stack.
Oh really, we're not one ofthem?
I don't think so but, it's anoption that people can have.
Okay, and the more options wehave, I think the more
open-minded we are and the moreconnected we become.
So in the end, I lovecompetition and choices versus
(18:38):
just one set platform.
So I get to watch my details,odie gets to watch her TikTok.
We're both happy and we talkabout it and we are enjoying
each other's company Perfect.
So in the end, which glass didyou choose, left or the right?
I chose the left.
I chose the the left which isthe stag.
It is a stag, the 20 the 24c.
(18:58):
I believe this one is yep 24c,yeah, which is not even the best
stag of the year, and that isagain versus the smoke hill.
All right, how much is a bottleof Stag when you get it for
MSRP out the door?
It's $80, but that's aftertaxes.
(19:19):
So I think it's like $70, $75before taxes, if you can find it
.
It's very hard to find.
I have a few connections.
Secondary prices of this isroughly about $150.
$150.
And the Smoke.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Eye Hill.
How much is that bottle?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
$90 before taxes Rough 150.
And the Smoke Eye Hill.
How much does that buy?
$90 before taxes Anyway.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Roughly, and there's probably not an underground
market for that.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
There's not.
You can go to Total Wines rightnow and find it on the shelf.
All right, that makes sense.
All right, perfect, all right.
Well, thank you everybody forjoining us.
We appreciate you sitting.
Welcome to Neat Tech presented to you by Nathan Mumm
and Mark Gregoire.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
starting now, Welcome to Neat Tech, where whiskey
meets innovation.
Pour yourself a glass and getready for Neat Tech, the newest
Tech Time radio segment, wherewe sip on a whiskey and dive
into cutting-edge tech topics.
Each episode we'll explore howtechnology and spirits share a
common thread.
Each pour has a story and everybite of tech connects the way
we experience the world.
(00:26):
So sit back, sip neat and joinus for a bold conversation about
whiskey and the technologyshaping our future.
Neat Whiskey, smart Tech noChaser.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
All right.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Now, today we are pouring Smoke Eye Barrel Proof,
a whiskey that's been makingwaves as a George T Stag killer
in bourbon circles.
Put that claim to the test.
We'll be comparing it to theregular stag scene If it truly
lives up to the hype.
While we savor these bold pores, we'll dive into another
so-called killer, the blue skysocial media platform, with many
(00:59):
hoping it can be the next bigalternative to X, formerly
Twitter.
We'll break down its features,potential impact and whether it
has what it takes to disrupt thespace.
So is Smoke Eye really a stagkiller, and can Blue Sky take
down X?
Let's sip, discuss and find out, all right.
So, nathan, one of yourprevious episodes of the
full-time Tech Time Radio, youactually had this whiskey, the
(01:23):
Smoke Eye.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Hill Barrel, proof barrel proof.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
All right, and you gave it a thumbs down.
I did so for you.
I would say it's definitely nota stag killer.
So we have both pours here.
You don't know which glass iswhich, all right, and then at
the end we'll see which one youprefer and see if it killed stag
now we talked on the last showthat this smoke eye is 134.7
proof, so it is one of the moreproofiest ones that we've had.
(01:47):
Okay, this particular stag forthose out there, it is the 24C
batch and this is 128.9.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Okay, I already know I have a favorite already that
I'm working towards.
But there you go, we can see it.
Maybe it'll change, but I don't.
Maybe it'll change, but I don'tthink it develops over the.
Okay, all right all right.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So, nathan, let's talk about blue sky versus
twitter.
All right, I'm curious on yourtake on this.
So, as of uh, roughly recently,x has reported they got about
570 million a month active users.
Yeah, in contrast, blue sky hasreached over only 32 million
users.
Yep, but people are talkingabout it.
Better killer.
Those are huge discrepancy inthe numbers.
(02:27):
Still there is.
Tell me about the trends, allright.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
So let me just tell you they're in Seattle area
because we broadcast out of ourmain studio.
Out of Seattle there's a biggeek event going on this weekend
which is called Emerald CityComic Con.
Not the best geek event.
Seattle no not as good as GeekFest West, which is probably the
premier geek event in thePacific Northwest, but a very
large event.
They have anywhere between80,000 to 100,000 people that
(02:54):
attend this event in the PacificNorthwest region.
Idaho comes, portland area,comes all the way down to
probably Northern California tocome to this event.
It's all about comics, it's allabout people dressing up in
cosplay.
So we're out there.
We've sent a bunch of staffmembers that work on the Geek
Fest event that I do, and aswe're going around to all the
(03:16):
booths, guess what?
They no longer want to know howto connect with you on X.
It is forbidden and bannedliterally from the show, and all
they're asking for is what isyour blue sky account?
Because we want to share thatand connect with that.
For the event itself, they havecompletely blocked.
(03:36):
This whole event is completelyblocked.
Hey, we can get a head.
Uh, contact me on social media,on Facebook, and they're like
no.
And I say, well, you cancontact us through X.
No, you can contact us throughour website is an okay response,
but everybody wants to knowtheir blue sky account.
So I have a blue sky account.
(03:57):
Our event that we put on yearlyhas a blue sky account, which
was requested so that we had to.
I didn't even think about it atthe time.
Account which was requested sothat we had to.
I didn't even think about it atthe time.
Tech Time Radio has a Blue Skyaccount.
So I can tell you that themovement that is happening from
a consumer to consumerengagement, a consumer to even
small business engagement, isblocking the ability for people
(04:18):
to use X or wanting even toengage with X, and they're
asking people about Blue Sky.
All right, so for thisconference that you're talking
about, was it that the attendeesX, or wanting even to engage
with X, and they're askingpeople about blue sky?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
All right.
So for this conference thatyou're talking about, was it
that the attendees were pushingfor blue sky or the event itself
?
Speaker 1 (04:32):
So it's the attendees that wanted to have a blue sky
account.
When you signed up and how youcould connect with, and then, as
you went to each of thesebooths, they had like 400
exhibitors that were presentingwith different stuff.
What they would ask for is, asyou would have a conversation
with them, is what's your bluesky account?
So there's a whole undergroundmovement, not from the
convention itself, but from theactual exhibitors, of saying
(04:54):
that we're no longer going totry to connect with people on
social media.
On X, if you don't have a bluesky account, get one.
Blue sky was there doing somesponsorships, so it probably
helped out also.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Right.
So what's driving that?
So we'll talk a little bit more.
What's driving a lot of peopleto Blue Sky?
But this is a little different.
These are businesses that aremoving.
We've talked about left versusright before.
Why are the businesses lookingto Blue Sky versus X?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Well, so I don't think X is going to go anywhere.
So I want to say that I don'tthink X is going to go anywhere
because major organizations useX, unless you can get rid of the
NFL, the NBA, all thesecelebrities that go on out and
post on X.
If you are having that still asyour primary, main source of
(05:39):
information that you get, peoplewill still use X.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
So that makes sense because it's no different than
the bourbons we're drinking here, even though we probably will
decide that it's not a stagkiller, okay, and my guess is
you're going to like the stagquite a bit more.
That other bourbon's not goingaway, it's still decent juice.
Yeah, maybe not for the priceit's about $90.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
But at least you can find this one, while Stag or
Georgie Stag you'll never find.
But even these Stags are toughto find.
Okay, so there's still a placefor that one there's still a
place for it.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
So I think Exit will still have a place in the market
.
I do think that a social forsocial media apps TikTok two
years ago was just breakingthrough.
Maybe about three years ago nowwas just breaking through.
We talked about it on Tech TimeRadio.
Really, tiktok was like 2% ofthe market share.
When we started Tech Time Radioit was never going to make it
(06:28):
and now they have the majorityof the market share for short
videos.
So people will move to a socialmedia platform, in my opinion,
based upon who's on it and howmuch regularity it gets used.
And Blue Sky is coming out withsome killer Instagram apps.
They really need to spend sometime on what I would call a
streaming app.
(06:48):
They don't have a streaming appyet.
They need to be able to createthe same aspects that you can
with YouTube and with TikTok andsome of these other areas, in
my opinion, so we could streamour show there.
If we could do that, then I candrop paying a premium
subscription for X.
I'm not going to pay a $30 amonth subscription to Elon Musk
and his organization just forthe ability to stream on there
(07:10):
when I have other platforms BlueSky needs to come out with the
ability to do that and a coupleother features, and then they
will be, in my opinion, a socialmedia killer, because people
want to use that platform okay,so let's talk about a little bit
of the divide of the left andthe right, but before we do that
, we have a left and right glasshere so let's take another sip
all right which one are youleaning towards?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
uh, so I glenn karen, and the right is the uh like
the mini beer glass.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
So the mini beer glass.
So the mini beer glass theright well, with that cough.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I'm guessing you're thinking that is a smoke eye so
that.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
So that is not the one that I've been tending to
lean towards, as you can see, myeyes even watered up on that.
So the other glass is muchsmoother.
This flavor palette is mucheasier to handle.
So, yeah, I'm still so you leana little left.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I have a lot left, right now.
All right.
So talking about left and right, Well, I'll say I'm leaning a
little left also on this one.
Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Is that going to be a trend on the show?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
No.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I always take the left one?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
It is not.
It just happened to be the wayyou put the glasses down Left
versus right.
So blue sky most of the talkhas been blue sky.
Is all the people left leaningor jumping to blue sky?
The right really hasn't jumpedon it and it's turning more into
X being more right leaning andblue sky being left leaning.
Is that what you're seeing?
The trend continuing to be?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Or is it shifting?
Well, I think that's how I wasgoing to start out with.
I mean, just to be honest, Ithink the left liberal
organizations will probablyreally jump on blue sky quickly,
and I do think the rightpolarizing groups like the
ability that Elon Musk has X andit's a part of his portfolio
(08:58):
and will continue to use theplatform.
But mainstream America wants aplatform where they can get
their a information quickly andbe probably have the information
correct.
So I think those are the twokey aspects that people look for
.
X used to do probably too muchfiltering of what they
(09:20):
considered to be right orincorrect information and
blocked certain stuff from there.
uh, then, once elon purchased it, we talked about it on tech
time radio, he pretty muchremoved all of its community
based uh algorithms now to getrid of stuff.
So so I think I think the leftwill tend towards blue sky, but
(09:40):
I think the right will move toblue sky individuals if they
find that the information thatthey're looking for is there and
it's an easy place to get, orif they get bored on X cause
they have nobody to rail on.
So what does make a successfulplatform is is having both
extremes on it too, right?
So if you did, if you have alla bunch of right wing people on
(10:01):
there and you can't yell at anyleft wing people, well then
you're not going to have a greatamount of time of fun, and the
same happens for the other way.
So you really want to have thatkind of pull and tug message to
be the most successful and inin in the most desirable.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
You said a couple key things there.
That leads me to my nextquestion.
Okay, um.
So you talked about um,accuracy of information, and
that eventually it's going to benot just left-leaning but it's
going to be kind of a merger.
So I actually saw an articlethat was just published this
past week that actually talkedabout that and they said a large
group of scientists are nowmoving to blue sky, transition
away from x in the meta platform, for that exact reason is in a
(10:41):
lot of scientists right, left,they're a hybrid of everything,
yeah, but they're really lookingfor accurate information.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
And, as James Riddle talked on an episode recently,
you know you want scientificstudies to be accurate and not
to be faked, and so a lot ofthem are trending over there too
yeah, I, I think blue sky has areal opportunity to be the next
platform that replaces x ifthey continue to monitor and
(11:14):
kind of try to keep theinformation that was there and
just go back to kind of what Iwould say the original Twitter
was not X but the originalTwitter and not the Twitter that
then all of a sudden they putin a million and a half
safeguards.
But when Twitter first startedup it did a good job of actually
having smaller content peoplethat would go through and say
(11:35):
this is right, this isn't right.
If you look back to theelection campaign run between
Hillary Clinton and Trump, ifyou go back to that type of deal
, at that time Twitter tookinformation and isolated it
pretty well, to be honest.
And they went through and theysaid this is factual, this isn't
(11:55):
factual, this is factual,honest.
And they went through and theysaid this is factual, this isn't
factual, this is factual.
Kind of.
Uh reminds me of um, um, the tvshow that used to do fact or
fiction they would test stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
A myth busters thank you od there's our producer
behind.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
She's like you guys are idiots.
Um, that's right.
So yeah, like myth busters,right.
So?
So mythbusters.
I always enjoyed that, that tvgreat show, and the reason why
it was because they would takean idea and they say, is it true
or not true?
And a lot of time it wasplausible.
That was kind of their thing,which means it wasn't really
necessarily going to happen, butyou know what it could happen.
And then they would just gothrough miss and say no, this
(12:31):
can't happen, type of deal.
Twitter back in his early dayskind of had know what it was
plausible, we'll let it stillstay posted and didn't get all
hypersensitive about theinformation that was there.
And it's interesting becauseBlue Sky, even some of these
add-ons for Instagram and stuff,are just going back to the way
how technology was eight yearsago, ten years ago, when the
(12:52):
original application came on out, and trying to keep those
safeguards.
Because a lot of the times whensomebody comes up with a great
idea, uh, over time it evolvesand sometimes it gets worse
instead of getting better.
So we're kind of going back tothis time in the era where it's
a little bit more traditional Ilike that x doesn't feel right
now um, communicative andsupportive.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You know it's about people trump, you know, yelling
out their views.
Yeah, I was gonna say peopleyelling out their views.
I was going to say trumping outtheir views, but that was kind
of a Freudian slip, but itdoesn't do any good that the NBA
.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I'm a big NBA fan, right, I love sports.
The NBA only puts their rosterlineups on X.
So when they have a roster fora game coming on up, they put it
out on X.
These are the rosters.
Here's the starting players.
Here's what you have.
The NFL does the same thing.
Here's the people that are oninjured reserve.
Here's the people that areplaying.
I can't find that anywhere else.
So I, as a sports fan, have touse X to get that information
(13:48):
because they don't post it onBlue Sky.
So we'll see if that changes ornot or not.
Okay, Odie, just created anaccount last week while we were
on the show, so I friended her.
Odie, I'm going to throw itacross here.
I know you're.
Are you on the mic?
Can you put on the mic?
Have you used your BlueSkyaccount at all?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I have.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Okay, and what do you think of BlueSky?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
You know, until it becomes to the same popularity
of X, which it slowly is.
I know that I'm going to enjoyit.
At the moment, I do enjoy it.
I like the fact that they havethe Insta app, so they have that
, and they have their X version,blue Sky.
(14:29):
I like that about them, becauseboth of the other ones I just
hate okay there you go.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
So it's really the adoption they you have to get
the main players on there.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
That goes back to your earlier comment on tiktok.
When it was only two percent,you weren't sure what I was
going to do, but eventually itbecomes more adopted.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I love tiktok I mean, I know how to fix plumbing and
how to install a whole bunch ofhome remedy fixes.
Like you wouldn't believe that.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
What I love about TikTok is that you can find
anyone and everyone on TikTok.
It does not matter like the GenZ or whatever generation is
below me, or just millennials orjust Gen Xers.
There's a whole array of peopleon there and everyone is given
an equal opportunity to likemake it to the for you page.
I would not watch plumbingvideos.
(15:15):
I do watch plumbing videos.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I now know how to replace a pipe if it has a leak
in it, how you can come on it.
Yeah yeah, I watched three orfour videos.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
If I wanted to DIY my house, I think I'd have a good
idea of what to start with.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Now, not to go on a tangent, how is that different
than YouTube videos?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Oh my God, to go to go on a tangent.
How is that different?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
than like youtube videos, oh my god, youtube sucks
.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
One all the ads.
Two, it's all these people aretrying to get monetized, so they
make these super long videosand they're going over every
single little detail.
I don't want to go with you tothe store oh see, that's what I
love ads.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I love that ads really.
Yeah, yeah, I said I'm unusual.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I am an engineer by trade.
To me, the proof is in thedetails.
Okay, I love details.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I read instructions.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Do any of you guys read instructions?
I do the IKEA instructions,that's it.
Well, you can't read those.
They're just pictures.
That's exactly why I'm able toread those my wife does all the
ikea stuff okay because she isgreat, spatial and with pictures
.
I don't I need words, I need.
I love the words.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Well, so what happens ?
You know, I don't speak well,but I read well, okay, listen
I've seen people like, forexample, a couple days ago I
learned how to change do yourown oil change.
Perfect was a dad teaching hisdaughter how to do it.
It was quick and informativeand told me they went off topic
and they were able to keep itentertaining the whole time, but
I wasn't sitting there for 10minutes with them.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Once again.
One of my YouTube channels Iwatch is now shifting to that
kind of style because they said,people just want the
information.
They want it quick.
I watched a few of those.
I stopped watching that channelbecause it's it's not what I'm
looking for.
It's nothing wrong with it.
It's great for a lot of people,but I I want the details yeah,
I love, I love sports radio likethis, this, this thing right
(17:06):
here.
We could have done in twominutes, but we're sitting here
talking and chatting and I'menjoying this, yeah that's all
right.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
sports radio what do you?
Sports radio, what do you got?
I was going to say I lovesports radio and Tech Time Radio
.
The main show that I do isn'tquite sports radio because it's
got segments and they don't gooff and just kind of mirander
about certain people andindividuals.
But I love listening to thatbecause I also like the
personality.
So I don't mind having three orfour people that I've developed
(17:32):
a little bit of a personalityto, whether I like what they say
or I don't like what they say.
But I know how they're going toreact.
I know if they like something,I may not like something, and so
I like that long format ofgetting to know the person
itself.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I will say that sounds more like a podcast,
which is very popular yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
You know, long form is not obsolete.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
It's still very popular.
Yeah, you know, long form isnot obsolete, it's still very
popular.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
It's just when you're looking to learn something so I
guess that that helps wrap itup od okay, because in what I'm
hearing you, what I'm seeing iswe need options.
Yeah, so is blue sky reallygonna kill x?
Maybe, hopefully not no, butmaybe it gives people well okay,
that's a different story butbasically you need options.
(18:17):
Same with whiskey.
There's some people that lovethe smoke eye, even over stag
and george t stack.
Oh really, we're not one ofthem?
I don't think so but, it's anoption that people can have.
Okay, and the more options wehave, I think the more
open-minded we are and the moreconnected we become.
So in the end, I lovecompetition and choices versus
(18:38):
just one set platform.
So I get to watch my details,odie gets to watch her TikTok.
We're both happy and we talkabout it and we are enjoying
each other's company Perfect.
So in the end, which glass didyou choose, left or the right?
I chose the left.
I chose the the left which isthe stag.
It is a stag, the 20 the 24c.
(18:58):
I believe this one is yep 24c,yeah, which is not even the best
stag of the year, and that isagain versus the smoke hill.
All right, how much is a bottleof Stag when you get it for
MSRP out the door?
It's $80, but that's aftertaxes.
(19:19):
So I think it's like $70, $75before taxes, if you can find it
.
It's very hard to find.
I have a few connections.
Secondary prices of this isroughly about $150.
$150.
And the Smoke.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Eye Hill.
How much is that bottle?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
$90 before taxes Rough 150.
And the Smoke Eye Hill.
How much does that buy?
$90 before taxes Anyway.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Roughly, and there's probably not an underground
market for that.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
There's not.
You can go to Total Wines rightnow and find it on the shelf.
All right, that makes sense.
All right, perfect, all right.
Well, thank you everybody forjoining us.
We appreciate you sitting.
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