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July 8, 2025 72 mins

🎙️ Tell This Story

In this powerful episode of Tell This Story, Doug White sits down with Dustin Külling, a retired law enforcement Captain who transformed his life—physically, mentally, and spiritually—after 30 years in the field.

They dive deep into the struggles of retirement, the identity crisis so many veterans and first responders face, and why leadership must evolve to prioritize wellness over optics.

Dustin is also a co-author of the new book Flip the Script with negotiation legend Chris Voss, available now on Amazon.

Law enforcement retirement and the loss of identity

Physical fitness, mental fitness, and post-career wellness

  • How yoga and physical fitness saved Dustin’s life

  • E.T.M.S. therapy and its positive outcomes for first responders

  • The silent damage caused by gear-related physical pain

  • How law enforcement leadership can truly support the mission

  • Social support theory and its real-world impact

  • ⌛ Episode Chapters00:00 – Introduction to Dustin Külling07:15 – The Wellness Journey Begins14:09 – Transitioning to Retirement18:57 – Research on Social Support Theory23:59 – E.T.M.S. Therapy Experience35:08 – The Journey to Co-Authoring a Book41:12 – The Importance of Sharing Personal Experiences47:38 – The Need for Wellness in Law Enforcement54:10 – The Impact of Leadership on Officer Well-being01:05:50 – Physical Pain and Its Impact on Law Enforcement

  • 🧠 Learn more about Dustin KüllingWebsite: https://livebetterservebetter.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dkulling

    📖 Buy the book: Flip the Script (co-authored with Chris Voss)Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Flip-Script-Successbooks-Publishing/dp/B0FDRSYQ3T

    🧘 Yoga for First RespondersWebsite: https://www.yogaforfirstresponders.org

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    📖 Buy Doug’s Book: Hiding in Plain SightAmazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C6VTSZZQ

    🔗 Follow Doug + Tell This Story Everywhere📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/tellthisstory
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    📚 Amazon Author Page: https://www.amazon.com/author/dougwhite
    🌐 Official Website: https://www.dougwhiteofficial.com

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