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August 2, 2025 24 mins

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Today's segment is the second part of my interview with Paul Matzko, historian and senior program manager at the Institute for Humane Studies at George Mason University. Paul is also an adjunct scholar at the Cato Institute. Our topic today is Paul's answer to the question: has Christian nationalism ever worked? 

Listen in to find out. 

As a part of addressing the question, Paul tells the story of Quaker martyr Mary Dyer. 

Music provided by Earl's Taco Shack, Jonathan Swaim, and Jonus Fair. 

Artwork by Sarah Eshelman.

Hosted and produced by Warren Throckmorton

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