*Re-Release* Maybe There Is No Karma

*Re-Release* Richard and Daisy are traveling around so this week we have an oldie but goodie for ya, enjoy!
This week we get a little insight into Richard's approach to writing music. He wrote a new song! THEN a conversation about good people and bad people, quality of living, and the struggles of achieving. PLUS a dive into some listener questions: How do you know what you want in a partner? What do you think is the future of music videos? Does Daisy ever ask Richard to sing one of his songs to her? How is Daisy Cuban AND vegan? Name THE one album, book, and movie that had the greatest impact on your lives? What breed of dog would Richard or Daisy be? Was there anyone you have been star-struck by? What would you tell your school-age self? AND MORE!
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Straw Hut Media. We're rolling cheers, cheers, tired of asking
you are you ready? Are you ready? I'm ready? Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
I spilled all of that.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
You spilled it, spilled, spilled, spilt it. Isn't that like
a New York thing? I spilled it. I spilled them.
I spilled it. I spilled tequila.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Pour yourself a glass of your finest tequila or whatever
you drink from straw Hut Media.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
This is Tequila Talk with Daisy Fointes and Richard mox Okay,
full disclosure. While Daisy is getting a paper towel, we
are on our just past our second dome. Roberto Tequila

(00:56):
was gonna say, or is the Spaniards pronouns it? Roberto Roberto?
We covered this before. Now she's openly mocking me because
I can't roll my rs. She takes great joy and
pleasure in mocking me because I can't. Now here's the
thing that happened from the last podcast, though, Young Lady,

(01:19):
countless people said Ricardo Ricardo, I can't roll my urs either.
This is not just a Richard Marks thing. Many people
cannot roll their rs. And I feel so much better
having admitted myfe.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Okay, here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Wait did you just cut me off?

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yes, here's the thing. Oh my god, I know you
think you can't. But if you'd been born to my
parents or any other Hispanic family, you would. So okay.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
But here's the thing, Daisy. They didn't teach you to
roll your rs. They no one they did.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Oh, so you just happened to be born to the
right family that didn't need you to roll.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
No one I know who can roll your ours like
you do, had a lesson in our rolling. Okay, It's
just something most people can do. Turns out there are
people can't.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
It's not something that you can do or you can't.
It's something that everybody can do, and some people decide
that they can't.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
But you can't do it because you were taught to
do it.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
You can do it because my parents are language. So
I'm going to do that too, just like you can.
I can't anyway. So how's your day?

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Pretty good? Long day, long day, but really good day.
So I wrote a song today with my dear friend,
our dear friend, Matthew scannal. I love Matt scann Matt
scannal uh lead singer Vertical Horizon and my dear friend

(03:00):
twenty years or more. Awesome, and we've written many many
songs together. In fact, a couple of the songs we've
written together are among your favorite songs I've ever done.
When You Loved Me is that's in your top three?
Right to my top three. I close my ass every
time I wake up. Seven little thing makes me think

(03:24):
of when you love me? When you love Me? I
wrote that with Matt Scannell. Love it when I love Matscanale.
He's like my little brother.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
One of everyone's favorite's.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
He's my little brother. I never had great singer, a
great songwriter. We had not written the song together in
over a year, no, well over a year, year and
a half since pre COVID. Okay, we got together today.
We wrote a killer song in ninety minutes.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
That's just not fair.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
I mean all finished music, lyrics, chords.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
But I think that here's what people don't know that
you do. Whenever you have a writing session, your your
your creative juices start flowing like the day before. And
then anything that you're doing, whether it's a hike or
whether it's can I walking or you just you connect
with the universe. You pull the melodies, you pull the lyrics,

(04:26):
and you show up to every writing session that you
have with half a song. Yeah at least.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Okay, thank you for that, thank you.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
But it's it's not that I mentioned. It's an observation,
and it's true.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
I've always been that way. I like to come in
with some ideas in case you're just ending up because
you don't want to just get there and have no
ideas and stare at each other.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
I mean, I like to wing it, but sure.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Okay, okay. So in Matt's case, because we're such close friends,
if I hadn't come up with anything in advance, that
still would have been okay. We would have sat there
and we would have come up with something no matter what.
But it's interesting you say that because it wasn't yesterday

(05:12):
or a day prior. It was this morning. I woke
up extra early, a couple out, like an extra hour early.
I did my morning hike without you because you were
still asleep in bed because it was really early, thank god.
And I thought, I'm just gonna go because that's where
I find songs now. I find them on my hikes.
And so I was walking and I and this melody

(05:35):
came into my head and so I had my phone
and I sang the melody into the phone and the chords,
and as soon as I got to Matt's house, I said, so,
I got an idea. It's just a melody. I have
a vague concept of something. So I sang him the
melody and he went, oh, dude, I love that. And
the next thing we knew we were like we were

(05:56):
racing to finish, finish each other's musical and lyrical sense.
It was effortless.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
And we wrote a song about. It's called My Love
My Enemy. Yes, we wrote a song about, in this case,
a man who has historically treated his lovers awfully and
disrespectfully and callously and just left people in his wake,

(06:26):
as there are many people who have done that. Yeah,
and now he's met someone that he really cares about.
But he realizes that Karma is about to bite him
in the ass. She's about to do that to him.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
I love karma, and yeah, I love that concept.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, it's different. We used some there were some lines
that are it's dark, but it's it's a really good song.
So I'm going to record it next week. So that
was that was the So what was your inspiration for
that bulk of my day. My inspiration was trying to
come up with songs that expand beyond my experience because

(07:09):
I've never been like that. I'm not someone who's you're not,
thank goodness, no, nor have you been. No. So putting
yourself making yourself a fictional character, if you will, gives
you all this room. You don't have to draw from
your own life. You don't have to draw from your
own experience, because sometimes that can be limited. But if

(07:31):
you draw from just pure imagination.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Or just things that you know from other people who
are hearing.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
About some I like the idea of retribution of a
reckoning because I want to believe that that's a real thing,
especially when it comes to Donald Trump. I want to

(07:57):
believe that Trump is how a twist is headed for
a reckoning. Okay, this is not that I want to
believe in karma. We've talked about this on the podcast. Yes,
because I don't really believe in karma.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
I think that you do.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
I don't you do. I believe in the idea of it.
I love the idea of it, but I don't think
it's a reality.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
It is a real thing.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
It's not it is no, because they're like we've talked
about this. There are people I know who are later
in life who are don't have much time left. They've
had no karma. You don't know that, That's what you
always say.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
You know that you don't know that.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Okay, karma for me needs to be an all or nothing.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
It needs to be. It needs to be on the
news like everybody.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Needs to be that. I know for a fact, they
don't ever want to live their lives is a shit heel, yeah, dies,
a miserable, lonely, horrible existence.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Okay, you don't need to know that. You only need
to know that for yourself. Everybody else deals with their
own karma and you may not. It may not involve you.
I know, it's hard to know. I'm not talking about
the concept that may not know of something.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
I certainly hope nothing about Donald Trump ever involves me
or anybody who I think is a despicable person. Okay,
but here's what I mean.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
People who you know who you think have been miserable
human beings, who you think, oh, they've had a lot
of success and blah blah blah, and they're doing well
and they've had you know, marriages and when a marriage
doesn't work, they marry somebody else, and then somebody else,
and they seem to have this wonderful life and blah
blah blah. But you don't know what's going on, and
I know what is going on, neither do you.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
They could be like, we I've been a shitty human being.
I've sucked everybody over.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
We good. You know that it's not the point. That
is not the point. The point is that it may
seem that that's what it's like, but it isn't always
what it seems.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Okay, what about the really good people who are consistently
good people throughout their lives, who never get a fucking break, never,
they never get anything really good.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
But maybe they're the ones who are truly happy.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
No, I've met them, they're not.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
But maybe it's not those they're pissed. No, maybe it's
not those that you've met. Maybe it's other people who
seem to you and to me and maybe to some
other people like, oh, that's a pretty shitty existence. But
to them, they're like, no, I have a wonderful existence.
I am not talking about those people, talking about people.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
I know who are really have been well. You know,
a lot of douchebags. I also know a lot of
really good people, yes, who've just never had a break really, yes, never, never, never,
ever ever. I know a couple of people who ever
everything I know about them, and I know them well

(11:02):
and for a long time, and they've just bent over
backwards to be good a good person, to help people
out and try to be a good person, and they
just get fucked. Well, they're karma for a previous life.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Oh really, I don't know, Okay, really I don't maybe,
Oh God, what do you know?

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Do you know? Otherwise? Maybe it's a previous life. Maybe
it is. Maybe it's the life before the previous one.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Maybe it is.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Maybe you're full of shit. Maybe I am. There's no karma,
maybe there is. God? Is this my karma right now
having to endure this ridiculous banter.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
My point is that you don't know, you think you know,
you want to know, you don't know.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
I never said I know. I don't believe in karma.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Well I don't believe in the Easter bunny. But maybe
he exists. Really I thought that was wrong, that was
that was a bit.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
But just sorry, you're you're erotic dreams. Notwithstanding every Easter
Daisy posts some picture of like a dude with like
Killer Abs in a bunny suit.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah, well, I got tired of people posting like, you know,
Kate Moss in a Playboy suit. So I thought tip
for tap. You got tired of what people posting like
Kate Moss in a Playboy bunny suit for Easter, So
I thought I would pick my own, and you did.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
I did so. I asked our listeners, and by listeners,
I mean people who follow me on social media who
I think also listened to our podcast, Yeah, to submit
some questions. I thought, it's been a long time since
we've just taken questions from people, and topically speaking, I

(13:00):
don't really even want to talk about what's topical right
now because it's there's nothing good going on, so I
don't want to talk about any of it. I want
to talk about it. I want to just answer questions
and drink tequila.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, let's escape for I want to talk.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
While drinking tequila, which is why the name of our
podcast is Martinez Talk. Ready for our first question, sure,
Vicky Hurst wants to know, as a couple, what is
the thing you most value about each other? Also, many

(13:33):
of us learn later in life, what we really want
in another person or in life in general. What advice
do you both have for those in those early stages
of relationship of a relationship or adult life. It's a
really good question question. Okay, what's what's the thing you
value most in me? Your hair?

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yes, there's so many things I value in you, but
I think your values and your sense of who you
are and who you want to be, and your heart

(14:16):
you're a good person, and also the way you love me.
I think that for me that's very important. Yeah, because
you could be a really great guy, like a wonderful person,
but if you don't love me well and you're a
little shitty to me, I can't value many things about you.

(14:38):
You know, Like I could still be like, oh, he's
a good guy, but he's shitty to me. You're great
to me, Like you are a wonderful husband, you are
an extraordinary father, you are a beautiful son, a caring person,
you're a caring friend, you care you were just I

(15:01):
value that in you, that you are really who you
say you are.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Wow, I'm kind of speechless. That's one of the most
beautiful things you've ever said to me. But it's true.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
It's true. And also your hair is amazing, and you
can sing like a motherfucker and write songs that are
just truly unforgettable.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
So hello, I won, Well I won. And that's a
very difficult question because like I'm not just parroting you,
but it's a like where do I even begin, But

(15:42):
especially in the last couple of years, what I've found
that I value in you, For lack of a better word,
I guess, but that's the question. Your care for your
loved ones, your care for your family, your not just

(16:07):
willingness but determination to take care of the people you
love is remarkable. I get to benefit because I'm one
of those people now. But when I watch the way you,
it's like you want everything to be special for the
people you love. Yes, you want every vacation to be

(16:32):
memorable and special and unique and wonderful. And I see you.
I see you putting the people you love first, and
there's almost a devotion to that, from your parents to
your sister, your brother in law, your nephews, to me

(16:54):
to my mother. Like you you're like the greatest cruise director,
but as a as a person who's a leader, because
you are really are a leader in the family you
always have been. It's it's a beautiful, sexy, amazing thing

(17:14):
about you. That's beautiful. There are many thank you, thank you,
So that's that's a good question. She's right, you you do.
One of the benefits of our meeting each other later
in life is knowing what we not necessarily maybe what
we want, but we don't want.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yes, I think that that is just as important in life.
Many people are always talking about, you know, knowing what
you want and following your dreams, and I think that
oftentimes a lot of us don't know what we want,
don't know what a dream is, we don't really have
a path to follow. Our purpose in life is not

(17:56):
as clear as other people, right, And I think that
what's important is to know what you don't want, what
are your deal breakers?

Speaker 1 (18:07):
To know your deal.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Breakers is as important as knowing what you want.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
And you learn that from life. You learn that from Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
You can't know that when you're twenty three years old.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
No, you learn that from your mistakes and from your breakups,
from your heartaches, from your failures, and you gain perspective
and you gain knowledge from all of that.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
It's funny. I think as you get older, your level
of tolerance for some things increases decreases.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
And that's all from experience.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah, as you go through you like, you know what,
I'm not going to be as crazy like I'm just
going to let go with it, let go of it.
But when it comes to things that are really important, yeah,
zero tolerance.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Because you know what, because I know that that's a
no go. Yeah that's a deal breaker. Why waste my time? No,
it's like, no tolerance for it.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Move on. Yeah, okay, this is really more for you,
but I think it's for both of us. With MTV
turning forty years old, which it just did a couple
of days ago. Just like me, I didn't mean to
laugh that hard. What do you think is the future
of music videos?

Speaker 3 (19:25):
You first, I think that there will always be a
place for music videos. I think that the platform will
change as the years go on, because you know.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
You think ten years from now, we're going to be.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Like absolutely sure. Yeah, I think that the platform may
not be YouTube, it may not be Hulu, it may
be something else. It started with MTV and it was wonderful.
It was such a great pop culture history moment.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Did it in it?

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (19:56):
It was great. But you know, you move on from
that to they.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Had a good run yeah, as just a music video.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Channel, yes, and then it became a reality TV channel,
you know, and it was also groundbreaking in that arena,
which is wonderful.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
You know a lot of people are like, oh, it
sucks they don't play music videos anymore. Well, they don't
have to, because now you can get your music videos
on the man. You go on YouTube, you watch any
music video that you don't have to sit.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Around and wait for that. You might like, that's right.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
You can have a playlist on YouTube and have that
just the same way that we did when we were young,
and we would have MTV on and it would almost
almost be like a playlist of the hits of the moment.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
You can do that now. I feel like the only
people who are complaining now that MTV doesn't play music
videos anymore or people named Karen probably. Probably. I just
want to be music videos, probably.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
But there will always be a platform for it because
people want to see their favorite musicians interpret the music.
Whether it's going to be a live footage video or
whether it's something that they created. There's always going to
be because it's such a creative process. It is such

(21:19):
a part.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Of the music.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
There will always be that, and they're becoming more and
more inexpensive to do. They're becoming easier to relative.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yes, yes, and no.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Someone can do a music video now on their phone
and their fans will appreciate just as much as a
million dollar video from nineteen ninety two.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Maybe that's where I sort of differ with you a
little bit, because there was a time for a long time,
up until maybe i'd say ten years ago, where if
you invested, if you were a decent selling artist and
you wanted to really promote your record, you could make

(21:59):
a video for one hundred grand, which was that's like
a median like I made videos that were more expensive
than that and less. But let's say you want to
space like you were going to spend between seventy five
grand and one hundred grand and that turned into a
big hit song. You're going to make that money back easily.
Those days are long gone, right, but.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
You could you could clearly make a video that your
fans will love for five or ten grand, and.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
You're not going to make that money back. You might
make it very difficult to do now.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Well, I think that if you're going to be.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
So it's a dilemma for an artist, especially someone like me.
Sorry did I interrupt you? It's it's a dilemma because
you want to keep your face out there and you
want to keep your you want to keep up with
what's going on and keep a visual identity. But at

(22:58):
a certain point it becomes like who's watching this and who.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Watching I think that your fans are watching your videos.
You can see that in the hits that you get
on YouTube. You can see how many views it has.
People are watching it. People are looking for the video
to the songs that they love. And you mentioned, well,
for you, what it is it worth it for you? Well,

(23:23):
it is because, first of all, an artist like you,
and there are many artists like you who can afford
to make a video for less than they ever have
and they may not make it back in record sales,
but you make it back in touring tickets.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
You tour your able videos, don't put the videos have
nothing to do with ticket sales.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Well, people get hooked onto the song by watching the video.
Sometimes the interpretation of the video makes you like the
song better. But anyway, my answer to the question will
there always be music videos? Is I think there will
always be a version of that. Yes, as long as
there are platforms four videos where fans can go and

(24:06):
listen and watch their favorite artists interpret that music that
they love, there will always be videos I think.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Let me give you an example. The last music video
that I put out, well, one of the last two,
was in twenty twenty or twenty late twenty nineteen. I
had a single call it another one Down, and we
spent money on this video. Nick Spanos, who's a talented

(24:36):
director and photographer, did it. It currently has it's a
year old. It currently has one million views on YouTube.
That's amazing. It's not amazing, it is amazing. Okay, right
here waiting my official music video? Old is that though
twelve years old? So you would think twelve million views
right now? No, three hundred and thirty four million view okay, okay,

(25:01):
So what's the point of making a new video.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
That a million people want to see it?

Speaker 1 (25:05):
No, they just want to see the old shit?

Speaker 3 (25:07):
No, litt Clearly a million people want to see the video.
And now that our view our listeners know that there's
a video, they will go see. The point is that
there's not any places to promote it, but people know
that if they want to watch a video to a
song that they like, they can go and YouTube and
find it.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
And also that you know, it's much cheaper.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Than the video that you made for right here waiting.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Yeah, I guess what I'm saying is I just want
everybody to understand that I'm not remotely dismissing the million
people who viewed that video. I appreciate that. But a
million views on a video translates into about eight dollars.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Literally, right, But that's not the point. That's not the point.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Well, at a certain point it becomes fiscal At a
certain point, it becomes like do I want to spend
fifteen or twenty grand on a video where I'm going
to make back eight dollars?

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Well, but is it worth it to have a video
for music that now you are singing and your shows
and that you can play during your song on the
show and people can.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Also a vanity project?

Speaker 3 (26:21):
No, I think that people will find it, and we
as fans do like to search for the videos to
the songs that we like. We just like it and
we're sorry that you don't make a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Last Nay you heard a song you were like, oh,
I want to go see the video for this Billie Eilish.
There were a couple of.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Songs from Billy Eilish that I was like, Oh, I
want to see what this is.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
About, and the videos. There were a couple of Nicki.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Minaje songs that I was like, Oh, she's really creative
and I don't really know what the song's about. Let
me go see what her video is.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Like, Like, I hear songs all the time. I love Yeah,
I love Bruno Mars, leave the Door Open, I have
this new song Skate. Yeah, It's never even occurred to
me to go.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
See if there's a video, which I'm sure you know why,
because you're old.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
This is twice in a row that I have to
remind you that Harry Styles has taken Okay, yeah, I
guess so.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Oh I did go see the video to Harry Styles.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
I'm sure you did. I did. I'm sure you did.
You were there.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
I showed you to.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
The last video I saw by accident was Ed Cheron's
video for.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
How you watch a video by accident.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
I'm sorry because I googled to see the lyrics. Yeah,
because I wanted to see what the lyrics were. Bad
happens because I really liked that song, and the first
result was his video. It's a great song, it's a
great song. The video is really good, and the video
I think was really expensive. Yeah, but he's at Cheron. Yeah,
so he's selling so many records that maybe he's making

(27:49):
that back.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
I again, I don't know that he's making that back
off of the video. How many views does he have?
Millions upon millions.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Hundreds of millions? Okay, so that just goes to he's
probably in a few weeks have as many views on
his new videos I have from one to twelve years old.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Okay, So that proves my point that people people do
want to see people want to see the videos.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
That's my point. You know, does Daisy ever ask you
to sing one of your songs to her? Or do
you guys keep those two worlds separate. Now that's a
good question. Here's what happens. She asks me every once
in a while to sing to her, and every once
in a while I asked her to say coming up
on MTV Richard Marx, Oh.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
That would be creepiest. Yes, it is so cringey.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
No, we don't do that. Oh, this is a good one,
and we promised I actually answered this person on social media.
How is Dave? This is from Anette Gallagher, How is Daisy?
Cuban and vegan? I live in Miami. You can barely
get a salad in a Cuban restaurant. For fuck sake,

(29:01):
she put FFS, which stands for for fuck sake. Healthy
eating and Cuban food are diametrically imposed. But I do
love it.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Go Okay, here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yes, I'm with you. I totally get.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Where you're coming from, but yes you can. In fact,
a Cuban restaurant is one of the few places where
you can get a salad with our cheese because the
Cuban salad, appetizer salad is a very clean house salad
with just kind of like romaine, tomatoes, onions, cucumbers, oil, vinegar,
salt and pepper.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
You're done, right salad.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Most other places put cheese on it, or they'll put
bacon on it or whatever. So I totally get it.
But here's the thing. Most cuisines, the largest portion of
most cuisines are vegetables.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
So besides yes, so when we we talk about Cuban food,
which is delicious, the sofrito, which is what you start
every meal with which is the onions, garlic, peppers, olive oil. Sofrito,
So why Chipotle is a safriitas Sofritas has nothing to

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do with Safrito. It should, it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
It's it's just one letter off.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
I know, they just made it up.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
I love the safriita. Yeah, they're very good.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
And that's really just tofu seasoned crumbled tofu that that
tastes almost like ground beef.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
It's like it's delicious.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yeah, it's delicious, not just that it's yeah, it's delicious, incredible. So,
when it comes to keeping food, the the the main
animal protein includes pork, chicken gross, ground beef gross. But

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the good news is that you can totally replace those
because they are not It's it's not like, oh it's steak,
which is a little bit harder to replace.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Daisy. What you're saying is like when I've mentioned on
this podcast, when you make us a bowlon as a
pasta bolonaise at home, you use impossible meat. Yes, bolon as. Yeah,
it's phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Because I do the recipe exactly as it's got for
in a traditional Italian bolonaise recipe, but I just replaced
the meat with impossible ground.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Okay, we're viewing off topic because what she's net, it's
a net right hang on. Yeah, So my point is
that you're saying like it's Cuban food.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yes, Cuban food.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
So talk to Eddie Eddie.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yes, he makes it wonderful. Uh he replicates, Mexicans, Spanish, Cubanish,
all sorts of dishes use it. So, for example, if
we're going to make so you this this this lady
who asked this question, she's from Miami. There is a

(32:15):
place in Miami called Vegan Cuban Cuisine. We order from
them every time we're in my ass. They make the
most amazing Cuban sandwiches and they.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Replace the pork with jackfruit, which the texture.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Is very similar, and they cook it exactly how you
would cook.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Thee other Cuban thing, like popular thing that we always
get from them.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
Do they make again, there's the same texture, same flavor,
but you replace the meat with either you know, some
sort of plant based and the sauces that it's all
very traditional, very.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Exactly as you would have it.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
But it's just that the animal proteins have been replaced
and the textures have to be the same. Uh So
for for the pork, which is the Cuban cuisine is
very heavy, and in pork you use the jackfruit. For

(33:22):
the pigadillo, which is the ground beef, I use the
impossible meat and I cook it exactly the way that
my grandmother cooked it, and it tastes exactly the same phenomenon.
For the chicken, there are a number of things that
you can use, including jackfruit, but many other replacements for chicken.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
I think jackfruit is best for replicating barbecue.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Chicken, well any kind of any kind of chicken or pork,
because it really isn't the seasonings, it takes the same,
it's the same texture. That's the key with any cuisine
is to replicate the meat, which is usually a ground
meat or a chicken or a pork, with a really

(34:09):
good protein source that has a similar texture, so that
then you can cook it exactly the same way with
all your seasonings, with your sauces, and if for some
reason something calls for chicken broth, you just replace it
with vegetable broth and put in a plant based chicken
booleon or something that will give.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
It that flavor.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
There are so many things that you that you can
use to replace a traditional recipe while still keeping you know,
ninety five percent of the original recipe, and that's what's important.
So I get that many people, and many people do
say to me, how can you be in Cuban? How
don't you miss your Cuban food?

Speaker 2 (34:50):
No?

Speaker 1 (34:51):
I still have it. I still have all of it.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yeah, it tastes exactly the same, and I feel better
about it. In fact, to me, it tastes even better
because I don't like a lot of the gamy, you know,
fatty animal meat, So to me, it's even better. It's cleaner,
but same flavors.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Love it.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
We'll be right back after this short break.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
This person's asking and very specific one question for both
of you, with three answers required from each. Okay, okay,
Sean character, it's very very like right now, bossy uh
name the one the one not name one named the
one No. One album, book, and movie which had the

(35:44):
greatest overall impact on your respective lives. Damn love y'all. Go,
is what Sean said. Okay, I kind of want to
hang with Sean because I feel like he's like take
charge and no guy. Yeah, I'll start. I'm going to
tell you right now, Sean, I'm gonna piss you off
right now. There is no movie. There are movies I
love so much, butch Cashing the Sinance Kid's probably my

(36:06):
favorite movie. Did it have an overall impact in my life? No,
No movie has ever made an impact in my life.
Book easy, hands down. As a Man Thinketh by James Allen,
And I didn't read that book until I was fifty
one years old. Yeah, or fifty.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Well, I don't think it would have meant anything to you.
You read it when you were thirty.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
I think maybe not, But it would have meant something
to me in my forties. It would have meant something
to me somewhere between forty and fifty. I regret that
I didn't find it before I did. It's my Bible.
By the way, there's a woman's version. As a woman Thinketh.

(36:49):
You can read the entire thing in twenty five minutes probably,
but you'll read it, and you'll read it and you'll
look it up again and you'll it's so impactful.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
But I think that both of those versions are very similar.
I think that back in the day when it was written,
you would say, as a man thinketh meaning man meaning
mankind people.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
People. Yeah, So I although you don't know. It was
written in I think nineteen oh four or something.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Like that might have been a little very mistic, but
I can, you know, without buying into that, I can
translate and interpret what it's saying.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Everything to people said to you because we were together
when I found that book, and you could see what
it did to me. Yeah, and when I would read
you quotes or I would send you quotes when you
were dating, I would text you quotes from it and
you would go, oh my god, that's incredible. Yeah. So yeah,
of course it's going to resonate with anybody. Sure, what

(37:45):
about you book?

Speaker 3 (37:46):
I think book wise, it had to be Many Lives,
Many Masters by.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Brian Wish another incredible.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
It's a great book. And I read that in my
early thirties.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Probably that's why you believe in Carmen and I don't.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
Well, it's it's not just because of that. What I
loved about that book is that it opened the doors
for much more exploring and it opened my mind to
things that I hadn't thought about before. And no matter
the thing about Many Lives, Many Masters, which is a

(38:21):
true story of a psychiatrist who is treating a patient
who has many, many many, many phobias.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
And she's crippled by them.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
She's crippled by them. She doesn't really believe in any
spiritual things that we're talking about. She's a nurse and
she's working at the same hospital that he's working on,
and he was recommended to her because he was very
successful in treating phobias with past life progression, not past

(38:50):
life progression, with hypnosis. So he would hypnotize people to
when they were children, to when they were young, or
to whenever the trauma occurred that is causing the these
problems or these phobias. And with her, he kept regressing her,
regretting her, and regressing her, and there was no progress
at all. And he was really baffled by this until

(39:12):
one day he said, let me just try again, and
he realized that he had regressed her to a previous
lifetime and there was no way that she could have
explained that. There was no way that he could have
explained it. He started recording all the sessions. Anyway, it's fascinating,
and whether you believe and all that stuff or not,
the message that comes from this book, the message that

(39:34):
comes through this woman for all of us, those messages
are valuable to everyone, regardless of your religion, regardless of
what you believe in and what you don't, and regardless
of where.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
You are in your life or how old you are.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
And I think it really just opens your mind to
the possibilities of.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Yeah, I love everything too. I love that you gave
it to me.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Yeah, I give it to a lot of people, And
it just got me started reading more, just reading more
about didn't you mind that book when we were first dating,
when we went to that Shaman bookstore? I think so
probably that was probably one of the first.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Because you had mentioned it to me, Yeah, and then
we were in this bookstore and you just got it
from me.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Anyone who I speak to, who is kind of interested
in life and beyond, who kind of has an open
mind and an open heart, I give that book too,
because it really does open the doors to many other things.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
It reminds me of. It's like the one of the
previous questions. The list is so endless. But of the
things that I adore about you and that are attractive
about you to me, but your curiosity from day one
and today now really, yeah, it's so oh God, it's

(40:54):
so beautiful. I love you. I see curious. I see
you still, I see it in your face. Sometimes your
curiosity is it's such a beautiful thing. It's a it's
a beautiful trade in anyone. But when you're in love
with someone and you see their constant curiosity, I think
that's super hot. Thank you. What breed of dog would

(41:21):
Richard Mars be hint? Any answer other than lean mean
greyhound is incorrect?

Speaker 3 (41:29):
What breed of dog?

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Ha?

Speaker 1 (41:34):
You would be.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
A golden retriever?

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Really? Yes, you would be a fucking terrier.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
I'd probably be all, yeah, i'd.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
With a terrier dominant gene. Well are terriers, I know,
but that's right? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Whatever?

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Uh oh, what's her? We get this sometimes, but we
should say what's your favorite tequila? Drink?

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Tequila drink the kind that goes in my mouth? I mean,
I don't know, there's a requestion.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
First of all, Daisy and I both prefer clean, straight tequila.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
I would say an yeho is my favorite tequila, and
any a yeho tequila I'm willing to try.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
And but I think what they're asking is, oh, drink
like mixed drink. Yeah, And I have nothing against margaritas,
but I haven't had a margarita. Yeah, I would have to,
Ama paloma. You've not had a paloma? Ask for a paloma,
have a poaloma. Yes, you'll thank us later. Okay, what's celebrity?

(42:51):
We both star struck by? I think we just talked
about this with we kind of did not on the
podcast though, I don't think really do. I think it
was a conversation with like I feel like Anna, your
sister might have been. Yeah, was there anybody that you
were who you were starstruck by?

Speaker 3 (43:07):
I don't know. I don't remember what I said, but
let me think about it now. I was a little
starstruck meeting Clinton were a little bit.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Yeah, yeah, he was the president.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
He was the president. I was at the White House
and it was a moment and I was just like, Wow,
this is happening. This is who he is, this is
the most powerful man in the White House.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Or when he came out to your table in Miami, No, at.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
The when I first met him at the White House.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Hmmm, I've met so many of my heroes. Paul Newman.
That's a good one, Paul Newman. I just told the
story on a podcast on somebody Else's podcast, and.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
You also wrote something beautiful about the first time you
met him, which was picked up by a couple of platforms,
but you originally wrote it for I'm forgetting No.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
I just wrote it to write it, and my editor
pitched it to uh car and track?

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Is that? Is?

Speaker 1 (44:26):
That? Is that?

Speaker 3 (44:27):
What it was originally published? And then a bunch of
people picked it up. Yeah, it was a great write up.
It was a great story. I should have been in
your book, but I can't believe that you forgot to
put it there.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
So many you've been with me on high it was
like a bonus story. It came out and I've gone,
oh for this one book. Okay, you just remembered another story.
I've got a whole of the book meeting Paul Newman,
and then you know, I subsequently had several interactions with
him over the years, all of which were memorable and
story worthy. That's the name of the podcast, story worthy

(45:04):
that I just did. Yeah, it's coming out today or tomorrow. Okay,
let's see, Oh, name a couple of your favorite musicians
or celebrities, People you just like, who you're a fan.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Of, who I don't know or you do know.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Huh, let's go with Let's go with people you don't know,
because then it's.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
Yeah, you know people I don't know who I like.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Yeah, okay, I like Brad Pitt. Yeah I don't know him. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
But you know what's funny, I've had a couple of
dreams with Brad Pitt. Really, yeah, I've had a few dreams.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Oh boy, I can't wait to hear them.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
No, they're they're kind of odd, and that in every
dream he is just someone who I know.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Well, then you ran into him at a grocery store. Yeah,
that's not dream.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
I barely remember that.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
That was I was.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
I was at a store here in La and you know,
you're just looking on a.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Shelf for some ship.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
It was a small supermarket, and I looked to my
right and there was Brad Pitt looking at the same shelf,
but just a little bit, you know, to the right
of me. And I just thought, okay, this is such
an l a moment, and that's all it was. I
at that moment, I recognized it what it was.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
No, of course not. I'm not going to bother some
of your dreams and some of you know, like any
of the dreams we were with him.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
With so no, in the dreams we knew each other
well and they weren't. I think maybe in one dream
I was we were lovers, we were like boyfriend and
girlfriend or together.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Yeah, But in like three other dreams.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
That I had with Brad Pitt, he was just someone
who I knew well, who was a friend, who knew
my friends, who when he walked in the room, it
was just a recognizable face and someone like we just
knew each other, Which is really weird because I don't
know him. Yeah, but maybe it's because of the dreams,
or maybe it's just because he's such a famous celebrity,

(47:22):
such a world star, that I just feel like I
know him when I don't. I don't know what that
phenomenon is. I don't know what that's about. Why he
appears in my dreams regularly? Who else has appeared in
my dreams? There have been a couple of celebrities that
have appeared in my dreams that it's just weird.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Oh who do I like?

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Okay, So I like Brad Pitt, I like Harry Styles, Yeah,
I like Jennifer Aniston.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
I don't know any of these people. I just feel
like I would like them. Billie Eilish, I really like her.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
So, like, if you're scrolling on social media or something
you seepee you're gonna always stop and read it or
not always.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
But usually I feel like she's a really interesting young woman.
I think that she's a little bit more extraordinary than
people her age. Yeah, I like what she has to say.
I watched the documentary and I think that she comes
from a really cool family. So I don't know, I'm

(48:31):
just I feel like, if she is who we think
she is, she's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Yeah, yeah, hmm. There are a couple of people who,
as you know, I have this history of attracting people
into my life. There are one or two people I've
met very briefly, so I can't I wouldn't. I wouldn't

(48:56):
disqualify them because I don't know them. Chris Martin being
one for Coldplay, always like I really like I think
he's really talented guy. But whenever I've seen him in
an interview, I was thinking, I like Chris Martin. I
like him. I think I like this guy.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
And then we had dinner with him.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Yeah, I really liked him a lot. Yeah, but I
don't know him. It was like, you know, we hung
out for a couple hours. But that kind of disqualifies him.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
A little bit, right, Not because you still don't really
know him and you still like him.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
But let's go with people I've never met. I feel
like George Clooney and I would be pals.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Really, yeah, I feel like George seems like a cool cat.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Yeah, he's a cool cat. I think we have a
lot in common. I think we both have a respect.
He's a little older than me, but I think we
both have this great reverence for an era of style
and class and you know, like Sinatra carry Grant, that

(49:59):
whole thing that we both have an appreciation for.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
Yet you're both still modern and you like to have fun.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Yeah. Really, yeah, he's seems he seems like Yeah, for
the most part, he's having a lot of fun. I agree, Yeah,
for a long time. And again, this is somebody I
spend even less time within Chris Martin. But one guy
I think is so fucking cool is Timothy Olifun. Yeah,

(50:26):
and we met him. We met him. My mom loves
him too, because my mom and I were both obsessed.
We used to watch Justify together, My mom and I
watched it together, still one of my favorite shows of
all time. But in anything he does, he's great. He's
a really good actor. But when you see him on
Conan O'Brien, you see him in a talk show, he's

(50:46):
so funny and cool. Yeah, And so he was doing
an off Broadway show right after we get married, Like
I'm twenty sixteen, and we went to New York. We've
got tickets. He was great. Just we went Backstaates to
meet him. So nice, so nice. He walked back. We
walked like a few with him and his wife. She

(51:08):
was lovely.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
It was really nice, cool, like he was super cool,
super cool.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
But I feel like that was a real brief thing,
and I feel like Timothy Oliphant and I should be pals. Yeah,
Like I always had that feeling about John Corbett and
now I'm friends with John Corbett. That's funny.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
Did you always have that feeling?

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Yeah? I mean every time I would see him, yeah,
I would think, oh, I like him.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
And it's funny because now that we hung out with him,
I remember you saying to him. Every time we would
see him, you'd say.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
And I forgot you did this, Yes you did that,
and I loved you and that and yes kind of
like you forgot all the said I had seen him
and he's so good. Yeah, I like him a lot,
but hanging out with him a little bit, and we're
gonna go to lunch next week because we're buds now
and we can't.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Mention him without mentioning his beautiful wife.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Yes, Derek, he's married to Bo Derek, who is spectacular
and I don't know like he and I just sort
of hit it off, right, Yeah, total instant.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
Bud instantly you both have this ridiculous trivia knowledge.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Yes, well, he I finally found somebody who knows as
much about Elvis bullshit as I do. Oh that was incredible.
Was literally going down the list of every Elvis movie
naming his character name, and neither of us sucked it up.
It was fascinating to watch, pathetic and tragic. It was beautiful.
But yes, Corbett's a cool guy. I like you. Guys

(52:36):
are like twins separated at birth, like him. I like him?

Speaker 3 (52:41):
Yes, Oh you know what I like? I really like
Gwyneth Paltrow.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Yeah, I can see that.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
I feel like I could really hang with her and
have a laugh.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
You probably could.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
I feel I like her a lot.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Okay, we'll make that happen. What something you would tell
your school aged self? Oh gosh, I Oh, that's a
good question, Adrian, Adrian, that's a great question.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
I don't know. I would maybe say, you know, don't
be so shy, grab the world by the balls, because
well you did that. Yeah, but I should have done
it earlier.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Yeah, I would.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
I would have said to myself, just be be more awake,
be more aware, be more present, grab the world by
the balls, and start taking charge sooner. That's what I
would have said.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Yeah, I would tell my school aged self to not
estimate my value by how other people view me.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
Oh, that's a good one. I feel like we can
all say that to our younger selves.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Yeah, all of us.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
Yeah, we remind ourselves of that, right now.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
That was always that was a little internal battle in
that instead of just being self loathing, which I wasn't,
I had a really good like. I like me. I've
always liked me. I've always felt like I'm a good guy.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
You have you had a healthy sense of confidence.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Yeah, I mean, there's no way to say this without
sounding like a dick. But from the time I was
a little kid to now, I feel like if I
knew me, I would like me. Yeah. I think I'm fair,
I think I'm funny. I think I'm a good hand.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
You are.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
I think I'm agree with all of that. So when
you're a kid and you feel that way, you feel
like I'm a I'm a good hang, like I'm a
good person and people are mean to you for whatever
their own reasons. Are you place any sense of value
in that people who don't know you at all. Yeah,
that's that's bad.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
That's something that we all have to go through. We
all struggle with regardless of how old we are. We
just deal with it differently as time goes by.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Yeah. I did a podcast a couple months ago with
a wonderful woman named Melinda Hale, who I know from
Twitter and she interviews really cool people and we had
a really great chat about my book and stuff. She asked,
what's the one thing you want Biden to accomplish during

(55:32):
his presidency? And I would say that you can interchange
the word Biden with anybody. Sure, it's the same thing
I wanted. I would have wished for Trump to accomplish,
or Bush or Obama or anybody, which is a sense
of unity that I have not seen exist in as

(55:54):
long as I can remember. That's my one wish for Yeah,
and you can't you can't even hope that a president
can accomplish that.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
I can get much more specific. I would like for
President Biden to accomplish a fair and free and civil
transition in Cuba from communism to freedom. I would love
for him to implement something that could begin, that could

(56:28):
be the beginning.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
Of a change. Can he single handedly do that?

Speaker 3 (56:33):
Yes, yes, he absolutely can. The United States, as the
most powerful country in the world, is the only one
who can begin that transition, who can put some laws
into place.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
It's ninety miles from here.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
We could spit in, yeah, and take over the government.
It's one helicopter.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
We've done it with other nations. And I know we
have a lot of history with Cuba. We have a
lot of political history that a lot of us don't
even know really what is behind it.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
There are a lot of.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
There are a lot of mysteries between the United States
and Cuba, which I guess only the governments know. But
there are also a lot of things that we do know.
And regardless of all of that, we're talking about a
country that has no human rights, no civil rights, no rights.

(57:35):
We're talking about a country that is completely controlled by
the government. The government is now suffering, so they are
putting pressure on other countries. They are blaming the United States.
So the people of Cuba think that the United States
is to blame for their troubles. Some of them do
because they are limited in the news that they get.
They are limited in the information that they have and
the things that the history that they are taught in

(57:57):
school is what their government wants. Their people are there, well, no,
it comes from the government and the parents are taught
by the government, and it's all it's a lot of lies.
It is all about control. It is communism. It is unfair.

(58:17):
There are no rights, there's nothing equal. There is nothing
good about it. And the people, you know, are not
complaining about what they don't have and that they want help.
The people are screaming because they want freedom. They want
someone to help them overtake the government. And I believe,
I believe that President Biden is in a position to,

(58:39):
if not completely, be the person who changes everything, he
can certainly begin the steps. He can certainly put some
laws into place. He can take those first few steps
that make that transition for the Cuban people possible. So

(59:00):
that's what I would like to see from President Biden
some balls when it comes to helping the people of
Cuba achieve some sort of freedom and to get some
human rights back.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Okay, I'm with you. I want to end on a
little slightly less serious topic. Yeah, we got a question
from Deadly de E A D.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
L e E.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
The rapper who's of Mexican American and African American descent,
popular rapper LA Based. Deadly wants to know. He says,
I loved when Daisy Flint has hosted Miss USA Miss
Universe pageants? Has she thought of doing it again? First

(59:53):
of all, congratulations Deadly on your career. He's doing well.
And did you how was that experience for you? Did
you love it? And my question is, because that was
a long time ago you did those in what we've culturally,
how we've grown culturally, how do you feel about women

(01:00:13):
competing with each other in terms of those kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Yeah, that's what I was going to get into. So
back in the day, I really loved it. I love
there are things that I love and things that I
think need to be definitely refreshed and updated when it
comes to those pageants. Back in the day, I loved
hosting those pageants. Simply because I loved making television and

(01:00:41):
as far as a live television.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Production goes, and they were an institution.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
Yes, when it comes to a lie watch them television
production of that magnitude where it's being shown all over
the world. And these pageants really are like a version
of the World Cup where all countries, men and women
get involved and they're all rooting for their country. That

(01:01:07):
girl represents their country the same as that like that
team represents their country. So it has a sense of
pride for people, and it has a sense of like
this this global competition, which is fun. So for me
at the time, it was just about a television production,

(01:01:28):
a live event where I felt the adrenaline, I felt
a part of the team of the production that was
bringing this massive event, this live production.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
To the world.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
So that was really much. I don't know that I
was nervous. I don't know if I was nervous or excited.
I think that there's a very fine line between the two,
so maybe I was a little bit of both. I
loved it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
I really thrive in that environment.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
I love doing live television. But then as I got older,
I realized that many things about that those pageants were
very misogynistic and very outdated and very antiquated.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
But I do still think that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
Within everything that is antiquated and maybe slightly negative about it,
these women all used what was given to them.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
First for some good. For positive.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
They all now had a global platform to champion whatever
causes they wanted to stand behind. And that's very positive.
You know that. Sure that were they using the way
a woman looked, Yes, sure that has happened throughout history.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Do we need to change that?

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Yes, we need to change that. And that's why I've
slightly change my mind about it. But the fact that
these women are still in control of what they want
to put out there, how they want to look, how
they want to portray themselves, and then once they achieve
any level of anything within that competition, they have a platform.

(01:03:18):
Especially if you get named Miss USA or Miss Universe,
you definitely are able to have a career for yourself
and call attention to important causes. And that's a very
positive part of it. Now there are people that will say, oh, well,
it's degrading to women. Well, nobody's forcing these women to
do this. These women are doing this because they want to,

(01:03:40):
because they enjoy it, because they want to seize an
opportunity because maybe that is the only opportunity that they
have to make.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
It in life or to do what they want to
do in life.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
So there are positive aspects and negative aspects to it.
I'm very happy to have been a part of it.
I would love to be a part of it. Maybe
an upgraded.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Version of that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Where men and women can compete, that would be very interesting.
It's the one competition where I think men and women
can compete and it has nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
To do on their physical attributes.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
It's right as opposed to maybe when you're talking about
some maybe the Olympics, where maybe you know, men have
an advantage over women with some sports. This is the
one thing where I think we're all even an equal
where men and women can kind of shine. And it
would be kind of interesting to make it more of
a I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
It's still it would still be referred to as a
beauty pageant, but.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
Maybe it doesn't have to be referred to as a
beauty pageant. Maybe it could be as you know, referred
to as as some sort of an extraordinary human pageant
where and oftentimes in these beauty in quotations, these beauty pageants,
it is not the most beautiful woman who wins. It
is the woman who really shines the most, who really

(01:05:02):
stands out the most.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
But the premise is still what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
The premise is it always will be. It's what it's.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
There's still a swim suit competition. But it doesn't have
to be you they shouldn't be. I mean not that
I'm against it, but it doesn't have to be you know,
it's And my point is, if you want to have
a contest, like if women want to enter a contest
to see who's who people who the judges think looks

(01:05:29):
best in a bikini, that's okay, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Not the exactly if it's your choice to enter it,
and that's what you want to do.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Got a rock and by and I want to compete with? Sure?
Who am I to say? Oh that's degree? But you know,
maybe maybe make that its own thing, right and not
part of I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
So I think that a great competition between men and
women to see who shines the most, who, at a
very young age, has you can do the most with
this title, who can achieve the most?

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
That could be interesting. I think it should be a
new pageant where, after all the competitions and all the
you know, the series of competitions throughout the evening. When
you're down to two, the person who wins is the
one who can spell chrysanthemums. Okay, it all comes down

(01:06:23):
to that. That's crazy and everybody would lose or hydrangea or.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
I think it would be very interesting. I think that
competition is always going to exist in life. I think
that beauty pageants as we have known them in the past,
I think that that's over. That's super antiquated. But that's
why we haven't seen much of them exactly. They're not
doing what they used to do. But I think that
there is a way to upgrade them, to make them

(01:06:50):
more modern, and to really continue giving the power to
the people who are in the competition. And that's really
what it's about. When you join one of the competitions.
Nobody's forcing these women. This is their choice, and if
you're really smart, you can do a lot with it.
I think that as all of us in society have

(01:07:10):
to speak up against some of the more degrading parts
of the pageant and just be like, we're not interested
in that anymore. We just really want to see who
the most extraordinary person is. I think good competition is
always going to be interesting and it should be about that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
I'll just end with this because we have to wrap
it up. I certainly saw you at one time or
another hosting one of those pageants. But when we started
hanging out together, I would start googling you and youtubing you,
and I found a lot of footage from those pageants. Yeah,

(01:07:49):
and it was unfair because no one could compete with you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
Oh honey, seriously, it was like I always kind of
was hoping I would win.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
I did buy you a tiara. Yeah, that counts all right.
These are great questions. Everybody. Thank you. We should do this.
I think we should do this once a month.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
Yeah, we should.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
We should do more of this. And we also had
a request from someone asking if we would do a live,
a Twitter live, or a one of those, because we
haven't done one of those in a long time. Yeah,
and he said, like, times are still kind of dark,
and that's a really fun thing for some of us. Yeah,

(01:08:31):
it was very sweet, So we'll do one in the
next few days. Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
It's just that, you know what it is. I always
feel like I look like shit. You look gorgeous, So
I just have to get over like, I don't care
what you guys think I look like, and I'll just do.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
More of them and that's fine. You're ridiculous. But yeah,
we'll go live in the next few days and we'll
just hang out with you guys. Yeah, thanks for listening.
We love you guys. Be safe, get vaccinated, and see
you in a week. Bye.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
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