March 23, 2022 • 51 mins
Daisy and Richard are busy these days. Both are working again, touring again, living again. They have no intentions of ending the podcast but want to update you on how their schedules are looking these days. Then they discuss their usual hot topics ranging from youtube rabbit holes to nostalgia.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Straw Hut Media. Cheers, my love, salute, Welcome back to
Tequila Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
We've been away, we've missed you.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We've missed you, and we're on the roads, so we're
not We don't have our usual.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Audio setup, but this will have to suffice.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Pour yourself a glass of your finest tequila or whatever
you drink from straw Hut Media.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
This is Tequila Talk with Daisy Fointes and Richard Mox.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
It's still gonna sound better than ninety percent of the
podcast I listened to, which sound like they're being recorded
underwater in a submarine.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
What is that you like and hate about most podcasts?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Oh, that's a good question. I don't like podcasts that
are it's interesting. I don't like podcasts that are not
planned in any way, that are just free form, just mental, you.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Know, diarrhea. We're a little bit like time.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
You know, we always have some we always have some
topics to discuss, and we will go on a hike
or we'll do it over lunch that day. What are
we going to talk about on the tonight's podcast? We
are somewhat prepared.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
We get topics.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
But I also don't like stuff that is so seems
scripted and not conversational.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, I think I agree with you. I don't like
when people just kind of talk over each other when
there are too many people on a podcast. Why we
haven't had guests. Yeah, in a way, we talk over
each other enough. Yeah, in a way, I want to
have guests, But I find it really uncomfortable when I
(01:49):
when you have too many people trying to talk at
the same time, it's a little distracting to me. And
then when when when I like a podcast and I
listened because I like the person doing the podcast, and
then they have a guest on that I don't care
for that, I don't care for those podcasts. So I
(02:09):
like them to be consistent with either the topics that
they're talking about or the same type of guests. I
don't know. I find that they can be two. What
podcasts do you like? I really was liking one that
was with Bill Gates and Rashida Jones. Uh huh, yeah,
(02:31):
you show you played me one of those? It was good. Yeah,
it was on for a while.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
He was he was very laid, but he was he
was the silent partner somewhat not really.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I think that he knew that he wasn't the entertainer,
so he would jump in whenever he had something to add.
He kind of let her. He was much for me,
he was much less of a co host than a guest. No,
he was definitely a co host. And they would have
guests come on, and they had some crazy easy, great
guests like Bono and really the guests. Yeah, then he'll
(03:06):
jump in and he'll ask questions. But I like that
it was very well produced and interesting. They got right
to the point, great questions, real insights on topics that
are interesting to me. So I liked that dynamic of
them too. And there's one called The Stuff You Should
Know and every Now And like I said, some of
(03:28):
them are interesting to me, not all of them. Yeah,
I'm sure, just like us, some people like some podcasts.
It depends on I have to say.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I really I like Rob Lowe's podcast Literally, which at
first annoyed me because I thought, and I know that
that's what his character used to say on Parks and
rec and it was funny. But then I thought, wait
a minute, I think he might think it's actually pronounced literally,
When of course I found out that he know, he
(03:58):
gets the joke, and that's the whole point.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
So I was the asshole who thought, oh, he's saying
this is wrong. You know.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Again, it's like he's generally good. He's really good with
a great guest and.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I would love to do his podcast.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Actually, he had Kenny Loggins on that too long ago,
and I was impressed with how he interviewed Kenny because
I've interviewed Kenny and I've been friends with Kenny for
a long time, and he brought some stuff out of
Kenny that I thought was cool, and it was really
conversational and fun.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And he always has guests.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Every episode is a different guest and it's just him,
like whereas Dak Shepherd's podcast, which I like too. I've
heard a few of those and I like those. He
has a co host, and I don't know, I think
there's just such a glut of podcasts.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I also really like Heather Dubro's podcast. We've been on
that numerous times. He's a friend and she You know
what I about hers is that she's very honest, and
it reminds me a little bit of Hours. Yeah, it
reminds me of a little bit of Hours because she
talks about her life and the things that she does,
have a very interesting life the same way that you
have a very interesting life. And you know, our travels
(05:14):
and life takes us, and I feel like that those
are good things to really just kind of go off on.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, we've been busy, We're getting busy.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
The reason that we haven't we didn't have an episode
last week.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Has it been two weeks now, maybe two weeks? Yeah,
is that you know, it's tough.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
It's easy to maintain a weekly schedule of a podcast
when you're in the middle of a pandemic, yes, because
there's no place to go and nothing to do. But
as life has sort of started to return to a
new normal, Yeah, I finally have gotten back to work,
and so have you.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I've started doing a little bit of work, a little
guest hosting on a show called Daily Pop on E Network.
It's been a lot of fun. It gets me up
very early in the morning. I do a little bit
of prep in the evening, and you know, you're starting
to travel. I'm trying to do a little traveling with you,
and so it's made it a little difficult for us
to maintain a podcast schedule. So we just wanted to
(06:20):
let everybody know that we're going to be putting podcasts out,
probably not as regular as we used to it. We're
not stopping it, but well, well we don't.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
We don't have any plans to stop it, but it's
going to have to be a little bit more sporadic.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, and we'll just catch up with you guys whenever
we get a chance and let you know what life
has been bringing us, what's been going on.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I'll tell you what I've noticed about both of us. Yeah,
because it's interesting that it coincided. So I've done I've
done two shows now back on concert on the Concert
Trail Denver, maybe ten days ago or so, and then
a couple nights ago in Fort Lauderdale near where we live.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
And I was at that one along with a bunch
of our friends from Florida, and that was an amazing spectacular.
We'll get into all that in a minute.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
But me resuming my concert touring has coincided with you
being back on television, even though it's a guest host thing,
which could you know, certainly lead to some other stuff,
and you have some other projects going that are really exciting.
But you know, it's it's fun and it's exciting to
be planning something or working on an idea that might
(07:33):
become something, which is we don't want to talk too
much about it, but you're working on something behind the
scenes that is potentially going to be amazing.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Well, yeah, there's a development situation that I've been working on,
you know.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And that's exciting and it's captures your attention and your focus.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
But the actual doing, like.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
You got like Daisy and I go to bed at
two in the morning for her to get up at
four thirty to go do this live show. You've been
going to bed at like nine o'clock, nine to thirty,
and I've been right there with you, like, okay, let's
do this. What I've noticed is that me going back
to work and you going back on television has lifted
(08:18):
our spirits a little bit. Yes, it's put a little
wind in our wings.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yes, it's been so long and it just feels so
good to get back out there do a little bit
of what I've done, you know. I yeah, I've done nothing.
And since before the pandemic, it was kind of quiet
for me, and I changed some things around. The pandemic
gave me time to really reflect on a few things.
(08:46):
I changed some things around brought some new people into
the team and it's been really good. It feels good
to be able to to feel like you don't have
to retire. You know, during the pandemic, I kind of
felt I'm done. By the time this is done, I'm
going to be you know, seventy years old.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
And that was a product of your team at that time,
and you felt like you didn't have you didn't have cheerleaders,
you didn't other than me, you didn't have people going no, no, no, no,
there's this we can do and that we can do.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
It's important to have people around you who are still
excited about the business that you're in, people who still
feel excited to be in it, to do the work
and to motivate me and to be motivated. That's important.
And you know, I guess when you're with people for
a very very long time, you lose that and that
(09:43):
as much as excitement is contagious, that anti excitement is
also contagious. The gloom and the laziness and the you know,
and the sort of lackluster sort of apathy. Yeah. So
and you know, you went back on I did you
did three days?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Right?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
And you're going to go back and do do another
three more days. Reason, but it was I was.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Just my I had a grin on my face all
day when you would be on those days, those days
you did because I would be looking at your social
media and people going, oh my god, we've missed you
so much on TV and oh my god, you look
so beautiful and all you were so funny and you
were so great.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
And you were That's been really nice to have the
you know, people just say they're happy to see me
back on television, and that was that was really fun.
I wasn't expecting that. Yeah, so I feel like.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
It's a it's a good indicator that getting back to
what we have always known and loved. Yeah, it has
definitely affected our gloom.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah. Yeah, it's nice. It's nice to be a little
bit busy. And after everything that everyone has been through,
you know, a lot of people have decided to quit
their jobs and to be less busy and to be
at home more. And for me and you, I think
we both realized that we missed it and we're happy
(11:12):
to get back to some sort of normalcy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I knew obviously, I knew that I missed performing because
it's such a.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Huge part of who I am.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
You know, I've been singing for people on stage for
thirty something years, thirty five years more. Maybe to just
all of a sudden not do that for two years
over two years, that's heavy. Well, we've talked about it
on the show, like it fucked me up in certain
(11:47):
ways in the early days in that I just didn't
know how to be still or how to have that
taken away from me. And again I don't mean to
I in no way mean to minimize anybody.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Else's struggles or everybody has suffered through this. Yeah, it's
all relative, it's all there is.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
But there are certain jobs and industries that were pushed
aside and told to wait longer than others. So a
lot of people in the last year went back to
work in some way, shape or form. They worked from home,
or they whatever. Right, performers, we're like in the small
(12:33):
percentage of people who.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
We were the last people to get back to work.
You've had your tour dates now rescheduled three times, four times. Yeah, yeah,
and I think that it's not fair. Maybe it is.
I mean, I don't know. I guess you take the
recommendations as they come, and they put these recommendations for
a reason, I'm sure. However, it really started confusing me
(12:59):
and bothering me a little bit when venues such as
theaters and indoor theater, large live concert venues would do
things like, for example, you were going to go play
in Puerto Rico. It was sold out and a few
(13:19):
weeks before the show numbers were rising with the new
Omicron variant, and they said to you, well you could.
The new law for now is that you can only
have the theater fields to fifty capacity, including staff. So
why would you do that to a sold show? Now?
(13:41):
What bothers me about this is that during that same time,
we were having football shows at the Super Bowl and
soccer shows and they were packed, and some of them
were indoor venues, and you know, you're having basketball shows
about basketball games where yeah, some people are masked and
people aren't, but that's indoors, much larger venues than what
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you were going to do. So that was a little.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Bit unfair and a little bit confusing, And it happened
to me in Australia too, because you know, whereas Australia
they were sort of heroes in the early days of
the pandemic, there's still half the country half the country
is doing great, half the country is not doing great.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
And we were supposed to play I was supposed to
play I think a dozen shows between New Zealand and
Australia and then go off and do Southeast Asia. This
was all going to come up quickly in like April May,
and the promoters in the venues came back and said,
you know, depending like half the promoters and venues said
(14:42):
we really, we have to restrict capacity or we have
to reschedule that. So we had to move the whole
thing to next year. And that really gets old after
a while. It's like I keep getting told you can't
go back to work. Yeah, So that's the downside. The
upside is that here in the States we're now at
(15:04):
a place where, for a minute at least hopefully for
a long time or forever, we are kind of back
to people coming out to shows. You know, the other
night in Fort Lauderdale completely packed with the most amazing
Denver two the most amazing audiences and I incredible. I
(15:27):
told you that my first show back, I for the
first time in decades, I was nervous to walk out
because it's been you know, it's one of those things
that's like as a singer, it's kind of like an
athlete who's not trained and has not done their sport
(15:51):
in two years. You're not going to just run one
hundred yard touchdown. Probably you might, but it's probably not
going to happen. But you get to pace yourself. You
don't know how your body's going to react. And so
even though I felt okay, I felt fine, and I've
been singing here and there, I've been you know, I've
been recording my album, which is a totally different kind
(16:13):
of singing than live singing. But at the beginning of
the pandemic, I'd been singing so consistently for so many
years that I just took for granted that even if
I was a little off, even.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
If I was tired or I had a little bit
of a head cold or.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Something, I'm going to be fine. I can do a show,
no problem. And I didn't know what was going to happen.
And I remember texting you right before the show and
I said, I can't believe what I'm saying is but
I'm nervous.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I thought that was really sweet and a sign, a
sure sign that you are so committed to what you do,
and you're passionate about what you do. I want to
be fucking great. You want to be great every time
you step out on that stage. And that's what that was. Yeah,
it's a good thing, I think. Then I walked feeling
to enjoy.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I walked out to this wave of love and joy
and celebration.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
And it happened the other night, maybe even more so,
like I thought. The first show back.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
In Denver was like, you can't beat this, and then
Fort Lauderdale kind of went hold my beer.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yes, you walked out to a standing ovation. It was
so I should have just left. But now somehow it
got better. They get better. They got better.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
And the first show and this show i'm playing, I'm
singing twenty something songs. I'm playing for like two and
a half hours. That's incredible.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
But then I wake up the next morning and thinking,
you're ready to do another show?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, like all of the worry that I had about
getting my voice back in shape and all that so far,
I don't want to jinx it, but it has been.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Your muscle is solid gold. Why thank you? What about
my voice though? It's amazing? Oh god?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
So how was your experience like being back on set,
having to prep for because what you're doing is a
very topical like they might change sit up on you
at the last minute, and they do and they do.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Like, for example, we had a story and at the
last minute it was about a celebrity couple who was
in the middle of a legal thing, and we actually
teased the story went to commercial, and during the commercial,
our producer said, oh, the next story has just been
flagged by legal which means it needs to be reviewed
and we need to make sure we get all the
(18:41):
facts right. And it could be troubled if we, you know,
we say something that is wrong. So that one had
to be pushed to the next day. But you know what,
it's they're all such pros and there is always so
much to talk about that you just go with it
and it's live. You don't have too much time to
think about the things that come up. And I'm always
(19:03):
on set with two other people, so there's really not
that much to prepare. You love the main host, Oh,
Justin he's great. Yeah, Justin Sylvester, who is a host
on HE and he does a number of other spots
on I think NBC and for some other shows. He's wonderful.
He really makes me laugh. He reallys lightens it all
(19:27):
up and has some interesting points, you know, so he
makes it very easy. He keeps the show moving, and
I as a guest really which is rare. I'm usually
doing what he does, which is running the show and
keeping the show moving. In this instance, I just was
able to be part of the conversation and enjoy a
(19:48):
really great live television production which I miss and it is.
It's well produced. It's like top production, like value, cover
a lot of topics, celebrity, mostly entertainment industry. But it's
really a lot of fun when you're back on. When
I am back on on at the oh, the first
(20:11):
I think.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Right, which is why you're not going to be with
me in Nashville, right, right. So Daisy and I were
planning this. Really, I'm ending this run of shows with
three nights at this incredible theater in Nashville, just outside
of Nashville in Franklin, Tennessee, called the Franklin Theater. It's historic,
it's really really renowned and respected, and I'm playing three
(20:35):
nights there. So I and I get there two days
before with two days off, so we were going to
go and see friends and dinners and hang out and
then you have to go to work.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, the next one. And I think another thing that
I wanted to mention for the folks who really who
follow you and who want to go to your shows,
who already have tickets for your following shows, you're doing
this really cool new thing where you're taking requests.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Oh yeah, this is your idea. Yeah, this is why
you want to mention. It is your idea.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
No, I think it's a great idea and I love
it and I think people really like it. So in
every show, the audience gets to jump on Richard marks
dot com and request a do a dedication, and you
will pick one on every show and do a live dedication.
And I just can't wait until you get like that
wedding proposal. Yeah, I've done those. I've had those effects.
(21:32):
It's so much fun. And now that everybody's capturing them
on video, I think it would be so great to
have a couple of those. Yeah, it was a great idea.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
And what we do is at the actual show, you know,
there's a period of time between when you come in
what we call doors, in which case the doors are open,
people can come in and take their seats. It's usually
forty five minutes to an hour before the show to
give people time to settle in, get a little refreshment,
buy some T shirts, buy some T shirts or whatever,
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and then the show starts. And so we want to
always give people something to listen to or watch, and
so we have pictures and slides and music playing and stuff,
and so Daisy had this idea.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
So now we have this prompt to go to my.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Website if you have you want to dedicate a song
that night to someone.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
We had the first night.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
We did it with the other night and it was
like one hundred and sixty requests or something like that. That's amazing,
And it was that was a matter of thirty minutes.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah, I think that'll pick up and you might have
to end up doing more do I did, Angelia. That's right.
You might have to end up doing more than one
dedication to night, which is really fun.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Maybe, or people who want me to sing a song
in honor of their wedding, in which case I'll sing
shouldn't earn better.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Maybe somebody wants a song to break up too. Yeah,
we'll be right back after this short break.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
By the way, in the last twenty four hours We've
decided that.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
There is a We use it martini as the as
the what do you what?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I want to call it as the measure, but it
could be for any drink.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
We use my song titles for consumption.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
So one martini is don't mean nothing, Two martinis satisfied.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Three martinis. Oh, I love it.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Okay, So I want to talk to you about this
because you and I have sort of browsed this topic
a little bit with each other, but we haven't really
talked about it. You pointed something out to me recently,
which is that I go down these rabbit holes on
(24:09):
YouTube particularly.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I will either get sent something or I'll spot something
online that has to do with a television show or
a movie or a band or a song from when
I was a kid, and then I need to spend
the next hour minimum.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Well, you don't need to. You go to YouTube something
out and you you end up really going down this
retro rabbit hole. Retro is the word, yeah, nostalgia. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
And we have a couple of friends at Vett and
Rick who are really into that too. Yeah, And we
had dinner with them recently, and I know that about them,
like I'm a trivia buff about old TV shows and
movies and stuff like that, and certainly music. But and
Rick and a vat are they remember everybody's names and
(25:05):
characters and everything.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
So we have we and I'm leaving you out of it.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yeah, we have fun reminiscing about these old TV stars,
and I think everybody does.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I think it's nice to do a little flashback and
talk about the shows and the people, the personalities and
the moments that really, you know, bring joy to your life,
of course, and I get that times and everybody's life,
and I've.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Always had a trace of that. I've always be like, oh,
you know, that's that's nice. It's a warm, fuzzy feeling.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Today's generation thirty years when I will be doing a
rabbit hole dive into Instagram.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Remember what Kishian did? Yes, and remember when she said that,
and oh, don't let me. After I get through this rant,
I want to talk to you about that. But I realized,
like the other night we were talking and you said
you were sweet about it, and you were.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Like, oh, it's so cute how you go down these
rabbit holes, and I said, you know what it is,
because I didn't used to go down those like those
lengthy a rabbit hole. It's because I don't prefer now. Really,
I prefer now in terms of us. I'm with you,
(26:18):
and there are certain things. I love, my relationship with
my kids, and I feel very blessed to still be
have a But if you're going to ask yourself, is
life yeah nicer and better now than it was thirty
years ago? I would say no, that all really depends
on how you look at it. No, it's very completely subjective. Yeah,
(26:44):
it's completely subjective. Some people go like, fuck, are you
kidding me? I wouldn't trade now with thirty years ago
for anything. Well, I'm not saying I would trade it,
but you know, when I see people is what are
considered advance, whether it's technology, and in certain ways, technology
(27:05):
has made all of our lives better and easier and
kept people safer. And there's all these accolades. I could
lay on so much of what is modern. There's also
like there's a price. You know, we're not as connected
as individuals. Humanity is not connected the way they used
(27:27):
to be. We now like and I'm guilty of it too.
I would much rather tech. Even people I love, I
would rather text them than talk to them because that's
become a habit, like I don't I can't be on
the phone for ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah. But in the same way, there are people who
I normally wouldn't would have lost touch with, and due
to social media, I now am able to, of course
somehow be connected to them and have an idea of
what's going on in their lives.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
There's frozen cons to all of it. Yeah, but the
general I'm just saying that the overall reason that I
find myself attracted to nostalgia or like I would rather
(28:16):
spend an hour watching some old Dean Martin roast really
then beyond Instagram looking at people doing stupid shit, including myself.
It's just not like it's become not interesting to me
at all.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I can see that, I understand it. But I feel
a bit of a disconnect with the past.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I know, I like you and I This is one
of the few ways of yeah, diverge because we're so
alike in so many ways.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
This is not one of them. I'm really happy living
in the present. I want to know what's going on now.
I want to know who is shaking things up now.
I want to know what to look forward to in
the future, what I should be prepared for in the future.
To me, the present is definitely where I want to be,
(29:09):
But the future is always more exciting to me than
the past. The future is not exciting to me. Really,
What do you think that is? Because I think people
just are getting worse. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
I think people overall are getting more hateful, more intolerant,
more ignorant, less educated, and more proud of being less educated.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah. That is to the.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Point where I don't really recognize my fellow man as
much as I used to.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
But we didn't know our fellow man the way we did.
We knew them way better. No we didn't. We did, No,
we didn't.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Okay, well, then I'll take that where you just sort
of like, go, hi, how you doing it? I'm good, Yeah,
instead of, you.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Know, instead of talking to somebody for thirty seconds and
knowing the kind of person that they are and what
they said.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Feel like, we're at a point now where I and
I worry about it.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Because I sometimes, even in my own thinking, when.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I'm having a discussion with myself about it, I'm like, dude,
you sound like you're one hundred years old. Don't be
an old guy talking about in my day it's not
that it's that I don't feel that this particular time
in this country, yeah, is our best of days. I
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think that's universal, first of all. But I also look
as much as nice as it is.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
To revisit the past and talk about some trivia and
relive some of the great moments that I think we
should keep alive for future generations. We should remind them
and tell them these amazing stories of some really great people.
You know, you can't live in the past, and the
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longer that you spend time there, the more you're going
to dislike where you are.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Now, Okay, that's all true. I'm not going to give
you a shit about what you just said. It's all true.
But that's an extreme version of this. I'm saying. Here's
an example. Our buddy George Ham, who we love on
Twitter and we've become friendly with. One of George's passions
(31:40):
is style. Yeah, and so he rails against the laziness
that has overtaken people to wear sweats and flip flops
to a restaurant for dinner. You could make the argument, well,
you're just in the past. That's just not how it is.
An he's saying, like, no, we've become fucking lazy. Yeah,
(32:04):
we have, for sure, And I'm just saying that that's
one of several examples where.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Like, we're not going in the right direction. But you know,
you can either jump on that train. You can try
to redecorate that train, but you can't get off that train.
You're on that train. This is where we are and
this is what's happening to the world. So you can
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try to contribute to that in a positive way that
feels good to you, but you can't stop it and
live in the past.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Well, I agree with that, but I disagree with two
seconds before what you said. Just as somehow it became
okay to wear shorts and flip flops to a nice
restaurant for dinner and a baseball cab, it could just
as easily turn around to go, yeah, you can't do
that anymore.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Well that I would not be down with that, right
because I don't want to be told how to dress
to go to dinner.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
But you were for a long time, and you know what,
people dress nicer, and it was a more elegant experience.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
No, I like dressing when I want to dress, and
not dressing when I don't want to dress. I don't
like being told how I should dress as a woman.
I've been told how to dress my entire fucking life,
and I am not down with that because the minute
that that happens is just people trying to control the
way people look, and that's not okay. I like the
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diversity that we see now. I like that someone who
is twenty two years old can walk into a restaurant
wearing something that we think, oh, look, he really didn't
put any effort in it. But when we really look
at what he's wearing and the thought behind it, some
of these looks are really brilliant. And you can compare
it to when we were young and you would walk
(33:54):
into a restaurant with your tight jeans and your cowboy
boots and your big mullet fluffy mullet hair what you
mean now, and the old people in the restaurant would think, oh,
look at these young people. They don't know how to dress.
And everybody else was young in that place recognized you
as a pop star, and people even were inspired by your.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Luck in the heyday of my tight jeans, cowboy boots
and mullet. I knew that certain places, if I were
going to go eat there I'm not wearing that. I'm
going to dress it up because it's just appropriate. Like
I don't, I get it. Like you and I both
talk about. We live part time in Malibu, which is
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the most casual, laid back place you can. I see
people constantly out to breakfast in their ugs.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I see them in their jamas whatever. And you know what,
I go, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
That's fine because that's that's accepted for that place, and
most of the places that cater to that serve people. Right,
I'm saying that, up until recently, and I don't mean
really recently, but up until the last five or six
years particularly, you had to sort of like go, yeah,
(35:13):
I can just wear sweats and flip flops to the Chipotle,
no disrespect to Chipotlet, because you know, I fucking loved you. Yes,
but you're not going to wear that to like a
really nice, beautiful, elegant restaurant. Yes, I agree, and people
now go now I can do whatever I want.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I agree. It's like we talked about in one of
the last couple of podcasts with the guy who was
sitting yes next to us, and he was wearing flip
flops with a little beanie. I don't like it, And
I was like, what, that's just confusing, But it's okay,
completely contradicting me. I'm not condicting. I'm not. I don't
like being told he didn't either what to wear. He
(35:50):
doesn't either, and that's fine. And you're kind of telling
him that it's not okay for him to wear what
he were. Well, it's not, but it's his PROBH. My god,
it's not okay, but it's fine. We are living in
a time where, you know, there's been so much talk
about freedom and people taking freedom away. Free DOMV. Yeah, freedom,
(36:15):
But the truth is that we need to have the
freedom to dress like a total fucking idiot or to
dress like an elegant person. There are times when I
I don't want to dress up to go somewhere. But
if we bring all that back, then we're getting to
the point where look when I was when I had
(36:35):
my part time job in high school, if I wore
a dress or a skirt, which I did a lot,
I had to wear pantyhose. Sheer pantyhose hot. It's not hot,
it was literally hot because they were nylon and it
was ninety five degrees in New Jersey, so yeah, it
was not no. And so I remember one time I
(36:56):
was at the register and I wasn't wearing the sheer hose,
but I was close close shoes and a longish skirt
and my manager, who was this bald, tubby, fucked tard moron.
He was just just an annoying, misogynist asshole, and I
(37:20):
tried to just kind of, you know, deal with him
and be polite to him and be respectful to him
because he was the manager. He literally came up to
me and said, you're not wearing pantyhose. I'm gonna have
to write you up. And I said, yes, I am,
I'm wearing pantyhose and he said, no, you're not. I said,
there's sheer pantyhose, you just can't see them. And he says,
you're not wearing I said, do you need to touch
(37:41):
my legs and feel my legs to see if if
I'm wearing pantyhose or because if you do that then
we can just go right to hr with that. And
he was like, don't be funny. I can see that
you're being funny, and next time that you don't wear panties,
I'm gonna write you up. I said, I'm wearing pantyhose.
What would have been the difference between me wearing pantyhose
or not wearing pantyhose. There would have been no difference.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
That's such an extreme ridiculous That's what it leads to.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
It leads to men controlling the way women look at
least for all them. That's controlling what you look like.
It is very related and there's a very fine line. Okay,
dress codes are bullshit, especially in a time when we yes,
dress codes are bullshit.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Except look, there have been dress codes and that still
exists in certain restaurants or certain private clubs, et cetera,
where it's kind of like what we've experienced the last
two years with masks. If you want to enter that establishment,
they have their own rules. They're entitled to make the
rules as to what you can and cannot wear in
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that establishment, and you can either go in there and
abide by those rules or say, I'm not going in there.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I would not go into there. I looked at through
the time when you know there would be doormen in
front of clubs and lounges and bars, and if you
walked up wanting to get in there, they would look
you up and down and literally judge the fuck out
of you and what you look like and what you
dress like, and then decide whether they wanted to let
(39:12):
you in or not. Some moron with a little fucking
clipboard who was a total loser dipshit is now judging
they wanted to perpetuate a certain kind of thing that's
never going to come back, that's never going to come
back to. It's not okay. But that's not okay. That's
not what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
I'm talking I'm talking about going out to a nice,
yes beautiful restaurant and seeing people in flip flops and
shorts and T shirts and going really, that's not okay
because guess what, it's.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Not that they don't own any other clothes, right, I
don't feel like it, so in a way, look, I
get that that's not okay, I think, and it's especially
not okay when I see these adorable, gorgeous women dressing up,
putting effort into what they look like. They do their makeup,
they do their hair, they do they're wearing beautiful clothes
(40:04):
with nice shoes. Everything looks They look well put together
and modern, and they look stylish, and the guy is
wearing cargo pants and flip flops and a T shirt
which isn't even clean. That's not okay. But it's not
not okay because because they're being respectful, that's his cowboy
(40:25):
boots type jeans, and that's not a style. That's not
a style. But there are young people who walk into
a place wearing jeans and a baseball cap and really
cool sneakers and a really great T shirt with a
flannel and you know, a lot of it is designer clothes,
or a lot of it is just really well put together.
And it may not be appropriate for us to walk
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into that establishment that way, but for someone like one
of your sons, it's perfectly acceptable and expected from someone
who's twenty two or twenty six to walk into an
establishment wearing something really soper hip and modern to their generation.
So I think that I get what you mean. I
think people should sometimes put a little more effort into By.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
The way, clear about this, I'm not pro codes.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Yeah, I hate codes, like.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
I don't want I'm not saying, hey, you know, these
restaurants should establish address. No, I'm not saying that at all.
I'm saying that again, it goes back to what I
was saying, humanity has gotten so fucking lazy, right, People
generally have like they could give a shit, They couldn't
give the slightest fuck about presenting themselves in a nice way.
(41:38):
That it's just becomes too easy to be lazy.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
That's all I'm saying. I understand what you're saying, and
I get both sides. You know. This made me think
back to a time where this is back in the nineties,
where I was at MTV, and the look back in
the early nineties is very much the look that is
that is in style now. So when I see five
year old girls wearing their ripped jeans that are high
(42:05):
waisted and crop tops and oversized blazers, that's what I
used to wear. And I remember coming home and my
mom and my grandma would be appalled at what I
was wearing, and they would say, oh my god, you
went out looking like that, like people recognize you. You're
on television. You should really put more effort into it.
And I remember thinking, oh my god, you guys are
(42:25):
so antiquated. That's what I'm wearing is people want to
see me wearing the hipps clothes, and I'm wearing things
from designers samples that are given to me.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Another example of a particular style, cargo pants and flip
flops and in a dirty T shirt is not a style?
Speaker 2 (42:44):
What if it is is that person style? What if
that is that person's style? I called bullshit. I just
I agree with you, But I think that there's a
very fine line between once you get into that. You know,
what if a male wants to walk into an establishment
wearing a skirt, what if a woman wants to walk
(43:04):
into a stasis totally fine, an establishment wearing a men
men's tailored suit. We have to get past all of
these gender specific and tighter doing our next podcast, Like now,
I'm just saying that this is a very fine line
(43:24):
between you know, you probably shouldn't wear flip flops to
that nice restaurant. Sure we know that, but you know what,
we have to embrace the fact that you can do
that because that wasn't allowed at a point and we
have the freedom to do that now and we're so
much more evolved recognizing that clothes don't mean anything. The
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way you look doesn't mean anything. When you look at
people who have a lot of money. I'm not talking
rich people who make a good living, who are newly rich,
who need to get the new Mercedes to keep up
with the Joneses. Right, I'm talking about people who have
made billions. When you look at like Bill.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
Gates and his friends or his spouse or whatever, and
you look at a reality star who is making maybe
you know, half a million dollars a year or a
million dollars a year, which is great money, but it
is by no means a millionaire.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Or a billionaire. You see these people with new money
trying to show off their money. You see them with
their designer bags, with their designer shoes, everything is designer,
and you've got they're wearing T shirts with some name
on the T shirt of some high end brand. Just
(44:47):
say they look expensive and they're getting paid. Their getting
not always not always in a lot of cases, No
they're not. I'm talking about regular, everyday people that I
see in the street. These are also influencers. You see
them spending every last dime on a status symbol. But
that's been forever, that's been forever, but more than ever today,
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if you notice people who really have money are not
interested in that. They are the ones wearing the flip
flops to the restaurant because they give zero fox.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Oftentimes, I know the people I know who don't give
a fuck, just wear nice clothes to a nice restaurant.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
If they're going to a burger place for lunch, they
don't care. I get that. But if they're going to
a nice restaurant, they're going to like dress appropriately. But
who's to say what's appropriate? Who is me? Who's the
decision making? You you are yes, okay? Ask me. I'll
tell you.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Okay really quickly because I want to wrap this up
as we're starving. One of the things that you covered
on your E show is this whole Kanye Kim Kardashian,
Pete Davidson thing.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Yeah, you know, my listeners probably don't know this.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
But what level of interest do I generally have in
celebrity gossip?
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Zero zero? I don't give off fuck.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
In fact, I sort of like like rag on people
who are interested in that ship. Yes, this is compelling
to me only because and I have great respect for
Kanye's work.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
I did too, I really like, I have great respect.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
For Kim Kardashian and the Kardashians brand. I think that
they've worked their asses off and they continue to Yeah,
you know. I mean, you can ragging them all day long.
I get that, but you can't just you can't sort
of like dismiss the success of their absolutely of their.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
Family brand like that should doesn't just happen.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
And I respect Pete Davidson's career, So it's all a
level of playing field in terms of that. At what
point does this go really bad?
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (47:00):
It's gary in my opinion, and I don't Here's the
other thing. This is one of the reasons I hate
celebrity gossip is because nobody knows these people. We know
what their real deal is.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
We don't know.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
For all we know Kanye is pulling the biggest scam
on everybody, sure, but I don't think he is. I
think he's a really deeply troubled guy who is potentially
dangerous to himself or others, and his behavior is so
erratic and so bizarre. At what point do we stop
(47:33):
laughing at this or just gossiping about it? And what
can be done?
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Yeah? I mean what, I think that. Yeah, there are
some bits that are funny, and I think they intend
for them to be funny. I think that because Kanye
and Pete Davidson are both entertainers, they're witty and they
are funny, but you're right, I am concerned for I'm
concerned for children, for the children, for Kim, because this
(48:02):
is this behavior is very normal to society, to people.
This happens all the time. We all know that when
somebody breaks up, everybody starts acting up and everybody starts
using the children as pawn. And as wrong as it is,
it's so wrong and it's so fucked up, but it's normal. Unfortunately,
it's what happens, and we are just able to see
(48:23):
it because we're talking about people who live their life
in the spotlight. They share everything, they share texts, they
share that you know, their life is a reality show literally,
so they're used to sharing everything. And I'm just I know,
I'm just hoping that this dies down before it gets worse.
I'm hoping that maybe Kanye falls in love with someone
(48:44):
who is able to balance him out a little bit,
because right now it's really hot. This situation is really hot,
it's dangerous, and I just hope I hope that he,
if he does need help, that his family is able
to help him and provide the help, the professional psychiatric
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help that he needs. And if he's just doing this
for show, then good on him. Then we're all caught
up in it. You know, I don't think that's the case.
And I don't think this is funny.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Yeah, I don't think this is remotely funny, especially for
these kids, you know verds.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Some people say, yeah, but their kids are really little. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
I guess what five years from now, these kids are
going to be able to access all of this crazy
ass shit that their parents did, particularly one parent aka
Kanye who it's embarrassing, like it's not okay.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Well, these kids, we need to give them a little
bit more credit than people are giving them. Because they
were born on reality television, not by choice. That's not
their choice, No it's not. But it is their life.
So the same way that it wasn't your choice to
be born to the parents that you were born and
to the lifestyle that you were born, but that's what
it is and you embraced it because those are your parents.
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It's the only life that you you know, these are
their parents. This is the only life that they know.
They have a great life, They have a loving, caring family.
You're wrong.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
They as parents, they need to be more responsible for
their children.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
I think I think that that is also relative. You
are born to the family that you're born in into
and you embrace it until you get to an age
where you're able to understand it and then make a decision.
Then you choose whether or not you want to stay
with the beliefs that you were brought up in, with
the system that you were brought up in, or not.
(50:35):
You know, it's the same thing for all of us,
you know, like, for example, my parents took me and
my sister out to bars and pubs and because that
was the culture in Spain, and when we came to
this country, oh you can't take your child to the bar.
It's it's all relative, but it's what you're born into,
what nationality, what customs, what traditions, and you embrace it.
(50:55):
If you have loving parents who care about you, you
embrace it until you're able to make your own decisions.
So I think these kids were born into reality and
to a reality show, literally, and they're going to understand it.
They're going to understand what that life is about more
than any of us ever could, because that's all they know.
It doesn't make it any less dangerous to their exactly
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mental health right now, right right, all right? I'm starving. Yeah,
this has been fun. I miss I missed talking to
you guys, but just remember just we'll announce on our
socials when we have a new episode, So stay tuned
and we'll we'll be together again soon. Be safe, be healthy,
and we'll talk to you as soon as we can. Bye.
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Speaker 1 (00:36):
It's still gonna sound better than ninety percent of the
podcast I listened to, which sound like they're being recorded
underwater in a submarine.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
What is that you like and hate about most podcasts?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Oh, that's a good question. I don't like podcasts that
are it's interesting. I don't like podcasts that are not
planned in any way, that are just free form, just mental, you.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Know, diarrhea. We're a little bit like time.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
You know, we always have some we always have some
topics to discuss, and we will go on a hike
or we'll do it over lunch that day. What are
we going to talk about on the tonight's podcast? We
are somewhat prepared.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
We get topics.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
But I also don't like stuff that is so seems
scripted and not conversational.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, I think I agree with you. I don't like
when people just kind of talk over each other when
there are too many people on a podcast. Why we
haven't had guests. Yeah, in a way, we talk over
each other enough. Yeah, in a way, I want to
have guests, But I find it really uncomfortable when I
(01:49):
when you have too many people trying to talk at
the same time, it's a little distracting to me. And
then when when when I like a podcast and I
listened because I like the person doing the podcast, and
then they have a guest on that I don't care
for that, I don't care for those podcasts. So I
(02:09):
like them to be consistent with either the topics that
they're talking about or the same type of guests. I
don't know. I find that they can be two. What
podcasts do you like? I really was liking one that
was with Bill Gates and Rashida Jones. Uh huh, yeah,
(02:31):
you show you played me one of those? It was good. Yeah,
it was on for a while.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
He was he was very laid, but he was he
was the silent partner somewhat not really.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I think that he knew that he wasn't the entertainer,
so he would jump in whenever he had something to add.
He kind of let her. He was much for me,
he was much less of a co host than a guest. No,
he was definitely a co host. And they would have
guests come on, and they had some crazy easy, great
guests like Bono and really the guests. Yeah, then he'll
(03:06):
jump in and he'll ask questions. But I like that
it was very well produced and interesting. They got right
to the point, great questions, real insights on topics that
are interesting to me. So I liked that dynamic of
them too. And there's one called The Stuff You Should
Know and every Now And like I said, some of
(03:28):
them are interesting to me, not all of them. Yeah,
I'm sure, just like us, some people like some podcasts.
It depends on I have to say.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I really I like Rob Lowe's podcast Literally, which at
first annoyed me because I thought, and I know that
that's what his character used to say on Parks and
rec and it was funny. But then I thought, wait
a minute, I think he might think it's actually pronounced literally,
When of course I found out that he know, he
(03:58):
gets the joke, and that's the whole point.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
So I was the asshole who thought, oh, he's saying
this is wrong. You know.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Again, it's like he's generally good. He's really good with
a great guest and.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I would love to do his podcast.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Actually, he had Kenny Loggins on that too long ago,
and I was impressed with how he interviewed Kenny because
I've interviewed Kenny and I've been friends with Kenny for
a long time, and he brought some stuff out of
Kenny that I thought was cool, and it was really
conversational and fun.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And he always has guests.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Every episode is a different guest and it's just him,
like whereas Dak Shepherd's podcast, which I like too. I've
heard a few of those and I like those. He
has a co host, and I don't know, I think
there's just such a glut of podcasts.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I also really like Heather Dubro's podcast. We've been on
that numerous times. He's a friend and she You know
what I about hers is that she's very honest, and
it reminds me a little bit of Hours. Yeah, it
reminds me of a little bit of Hours because she
talks about her life and the things that she does,
have a very interesting life the same way that you
have a very interesting life. And you know, our travels
(05:14):
and life takes us, and I feel like that those
are good things to really just kind of go off on.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, we've been busy, We're getting busy.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
The reason that we haven't we didn't have an episode
last week.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Has it been two weeks now, maybe two weeks? Yeah,
is that you know, it's tough.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
It's easy to maintain a weekly schedule of a podcast
when you're in the middle of a pandemic, yes, because
there's no place to go and nothing to do. But
as life has sort of started to return to a
new normal, Yeah, I finally have gotten back to work,
and so have you.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I've started doing a little bit of work, a little
guest hosting on a show called Daily Pop on E Network.
It's been a lot of fun. It gets me up
very early in the morning. I do a little bit
of prep in the evening, and you know, you're starting
to travel. I'm trying to do a little traveling with you,
and so it's made it a little difficult for us
to maintain a podcast schedule. So we just wanted to
(06:20):
let everybody know that we're going to be putting podcasts out,
probably not as regular as we used to it. We're
not stopping it, but well, well we don't.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
We don't have any plans to stop it, but it's
going to have to be a little bit more sporadic.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, and we'll just catch up with you guys whenever
we get a chance and let you know what life
has been bringing us, what's been going on.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I'll tell you what I've noticed about both of us. Yeah,
because it's interesting that it coincided. So I've done I've
done two shows now back on concert on the Concert
Trail Denver, maybe ten days ago or so, and then
a couple nights ago in Fort Lauderdale near where we live.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
And I was at that one along with a bunch
of our friends from Florida, and that was an amazing spectacular.
We'll get into all that in a minute.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
But me resuming my concert touring has coincided with you
being back on television, even though it's a guest host thing,
which could you know, certainly lead to some other stuff,
and you have some other projects going that are really exciting.
But you know, it's it's fun and it's exciting to
be planning something or working on an idea that might
(07:33):
become something, which is we don't want to talk too
much about it, but you're working on something behind the
scenes that is potentially going to be amazing.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Well, yeah, there's a development situation that I've been working on,
you know.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And that's exciting and it's captures your attention and your focus.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
But the actual doing, like.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
You got like Daisy and I go to bed at
two in the morning for her to get up at
four thirty to go do this live show. You've been
going to bed at like nine o'clock, nine to thirty,
and I've been right there with you, like, okay, let's
do this. What I've noticed is that me going back
to work and you going back on television has lifted
(08:18):
our spirits a little bit. Yes, it's put a little
wind in our wings.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yes, it's been so long and it just feels so
good to get back out there do a little bit
of what I've done, you know. I yeah, I've done nothing.
And since before the pandemic, it was kind of quiet
for me, and I changed some things around. The pandemic
gave me time to really reflect on a few things.
(08:46):
I changed some things around brought some new people into
the team and it's been really good. It feels good
to be able to to feel like you don't have
to retire. You know, during the pandemic, I kind of
felt I'm done. By the time this is done, I'm
going to be you know, seventy years old.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
And that was a product of your team at that time,
and you felt like you didn't have you didn't have cheerleaders,
you didn't other than me, you didn't have people going no, no, no, no,
there's this we can do and that we can do.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
It's important to have people around you who are still
excited about the business that you're in, people who still
feel excited to be in it, to do the work
and to motivate me and to be motivated. That's important.
And you know, I guess when you're with people for
a very very long time, you lose that and that
(09:43):
as much as excitement is contagious, that anti excitement is
also contagious. The gloom and the laziness and the you know,
and the sort of lackluster sort of apathy. Yeah. So
and you know, you went back on I did you
did three days?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Right?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
And you're going to go back and do do another
three more days. Reason, but it was I was.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Just my I had a grin on my face all
day when you would be on those days, those days
you did because I would be looking at your social
media and people going, oh my god, we've missed you
so much on TV and oh my god, you look
so beautiful and all you were so funny and you
were so great.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
And you were That's been really nice to have the
you know, people just say they're happy to see me
back on television, and that was that was really fun.
I wasn't expecting that. Yeah, so I feel like.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
It's a it's a good indicator that getting back to
what we have always known and loved. Yeah, it has
definitely affected our gloom.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah. Yeah, it's nice. It's nice to be a little
bit busy. And after everything that everyone has been through,
you know, a lot of people have decided to quit
their jobs and to be less busy and to be
at home more. And for me and you, I think
we both realized that we missed it and we're happy
(11:12):
to get back to some sort of normalcy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I knew obviously, I knew that I missed performing because
it's such a.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Huge part of who I am.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
You know, I've been singing for people on stage for
thirty something years, thirty five years more. Maybe to just
all of a sudden not do that for two years
over two years, that's heavy. Well, we've talked about it
on the show, like it fucked me up in certain
(11:47):
ways in the early days in that I just didn't
know how to be still or how to have that
taken away from me. And again I don't mean to
I in no way mean to minimize anybody.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Else's struggles or everybody has suffered through this. Yeah, it's
all relative, it's all there is.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
But there are certain jobs and industries that were pushed
aside and told to wait longer than others. So a
lot of people in the last year went back to
work in some way, shape or form. They worked from home,
or they whatever. Right, performers, we're like in the small
(12:33):
percentage of people who.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
We were the last people to get back to work.
You've had your tour dates now rescheduled three times, four times. Yeah, yeah,
and I think that it's not fair. Maybe it is.
I mean, I don't know. I guess you take the
recommendations as they come, and they put these recommendations for
a reason, I'm sure. However, it really started confusing me
(12:59):
and bothering me a little bit when venues such as
theaters and indoor theater, large live concert venues would do
things like, for example, you were going to go play
in Puerto Rico. It was sold out and a few
(13:19):
weeks before the show numbers were rising with the new
Omicron variant, and they said to you, well you could.
The new law for now is that you can only
have the theater fields to fifty capacity, including staff. So
why would you do that to a sold show? Now?
(13:41):
What bothers me about this is that during that same time,
we were having football shows at the Super Bowl and
soccer shows and they were packed, and some of them
were indoor venues, and you know, you're having basketball shows
about basketball games where yeah, some people are masked and
people aren't, but that's indoors, much larger venues than what
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you were going to do. So that was a little.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Bit unfair and a little bit confusing, And it happened
to me in Australia too, because you know, whereas Australia
they were sort of heroes in the early days of
the pandemic, there's still half the country half the country
is doing great, half the country is not doing great.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
And we were supposed to play I was supposed to
play I think a dozen shows between New Zealand and
Australia and then go off and do Southeast Asia. This
was all going to come up quickly in like April May,
and the promoters in the venues came back and said,
you know, depending like half the promoters and venues said
(14:42):
we really, we have to restrict capacity or we have
to reschedule that. So we had to move the whole
thing to next year. And that really gets old after
a while. It's like I keep getting told you can't
go back to work. Yeah, So that's the downside. The
upside is that here in the States we're now at
(15:04):
a place where, for a minute at least hopefully for
a long time or forever, we are kind of back
to people coming out to shows. You know, the other
night in Fort Lauderdale completely packed with the most amazing
Denver two the most amazing audiences and I incredible. I
(15:27):
told you that my first show back, I for the
first time in decades, I was nervous to walk out
because it's been you know, it's one of those things
that's like as a singer, it's kind of like an
athlete who's not trained and has not done their sport
(15:51):
in two years. You're not going to just run one
hundred yard touchdown. Probably you might, but it's probably not
going to happen. But you get to pace yourself. You
don't know how your body's going to react. And so
even though I felt okay, I felt fine, and I've
been singing here and there, I've been you know, I've
been recording my album, which is a totally different kind
(16:13):
of singing than live singing. But at the beginning of
the pandemic, I'd been singing so consistently for so many
years that I just took for granted that even if
I was a little off, even.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
If I was tired or I had a little bit
of a head cold or.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Something, I'm going to be fine. I can do a show,
no problem. And I didn't know what was going to happen.
And I remember texting you right before the show and
I said, I can't believe what I'm saying is but
I'm nervous.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I thought that was really sweet and a sign, a
sure sign that you are so committed to what you do,
and you're passionate about what you do. I want to
be fucking great. You want to be great every time
you step out on that stage. And that's what that was. Yeah,
it's a good thing, I think. Then I walked feeling
to enjoy.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I walked out to this wave of love and joy
and celebration.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
And it happened the other night, maybe even more so,
like I thought. The first show back.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
In Denver was like, you can't beat this, and then
Fort Lauderdale kind of went hold my beer.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yes, you walked out to a standing ovation. It was
so I should have just left. But now somehow it
got better. They get better. They got better.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
And the first show and this show i'm playing, I'm
singing twenty something songs. I'm playing for like two and
a half hours. That's incredible.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
But then I wake up the next morning and thinking,
you're ready to do another show?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, like all of the worry that I had about
getting my voice back in shape and all that so far,
I don't want to jinx it, but it has been.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Your muscle is solid gold. Why thank you? What about
my voice though? It's amazing? Oh god?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
So how was your experience like being back on set,
having to prep for because what you're doing is a
very topical like they might change sit up on you
at the last minute, and they do and they do.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Like, for example, we had a story and at the
last minute it was about a celebrity couple who was
in the middle of a legal thing, and we actually
teased the story went to commercial, and during the commercial,
our producer said, oh, the next story has just been
flagged by legal which means it needs to be reviewed
and we need to make sure we get all the
(18:41):
facts right. And it could be troubled if we, you know,
we say something that is wrong. So that one had
to be pushed to the next day. But you know what,
it's they're all such pros and there is always so
much to talk about that you just go with it
and it's live. You don't have too much time to
think about the things that come up. And I'm always
(19:03):
on set with two other people, so there's really not
that much to prepare. You love the main host, Oh,
Justin he's great. Yeah, Justin Sylvester, who is a host
on HE and he does a number of other spots
on I think NBC and for some other shows. He's wonderful.
He really makes me laugh. He reallys lightens it all
(19:27):
up and has some interesting points, you know, so he
makes it very easy. He keeps the show moving, and
I as a guest really which is rare. I'm usually
doing what he does, which is running the show and
keeping the show moving. In this instance, I just was
able to be part of the conversation and enjoy a
(19:48):
really great live television production which I miss and it is.
It's well produced. It's like top production, like value, cover
a lot of topics, celebrity, mostly entertainment industry. But it's
really a lot of fun when you're back on. When
I am back on on at the oh, the first
(20:11):
I think.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Right, which is why you're not going to be with
me in Nashville, right, right. So Daisy and I were
planning this. Really, I'm ending this run of shows with
three nights at this incredible theater in Nashville, just outside
of Nashville in Franklin, Tennessee, called the Franklin Theater. It's historic,
it's really really renowned and respected, and I'm playing three
(20:35):
nights there. So I and I get there two days
before with two days off, so we were going to
go and see friends and dinners and hang out and
then you have to go to work.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, the next one. And I think another thing that
I wanted to mention for the folks who really who
follow you and who want to go to your shows,
who already have tickets for your following shows, you're doing
this really cool new thing where you're taking requests.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Oh yeah, this is your idea. Yeah, this is why
you want to mention. It is your idea.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
No, I think it's a great idea and I love
it and I think people really like it. So in
every show, the audience gets to jump on Richard marks
dot com and request a do a dedication, and you
will pick one on every show and do a live dedication.
And I just can't wait until you get like that
wedding proposal. Yeah, I've done those. I've had those effects.
(21:32):
It's so much fun. And now that everybody's capturing them
on video, I think it would be so great to
have a couple of those. Yeah, it was a great idea.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
And what we do is at the actual show, you know,
there's a period of time between when you come in
what we call doors, in which case the doors are open,
people can come in and take their seats. It's usually
forty five minutes to an hour before the show to
give people time to settle in, get a little refreshment,
buy some T shirts, buy some T shirts or whatever,
(22:03):
and then the show starts. And so we want to
always give people something to listen to or watch, and
so we have pictures and slides and music playing and stuff,
and so Daisy had this idea.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
So now we have this prompt to go to my.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Website if you have you want to dedicate a song
that night to someone.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
We had the first night.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
We did it with the other night and it was
like one hundred and sixty requests or something like that. That's amazing,
And it was that was a matter of thirty minutes.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah, I think that'll pick up and you might have
to end up doing more do I did, Angelia. That's right.
You might have to end up doing more than one
dedication to night, which is really fun.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Maybe, or people who want me to sing a song
in honor of their wedding, in which case I'll sing
shouldn't earn better.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Maybe somebody wants a song to break up too. Yeah,
we'll be right back after this short break.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
By the way, in the last twenty four hours We've
decided that.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
There is a We use it martini as the as
the what do you what?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I want to call it as the measure, but it
could be for any drink.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
We use my song titles for consumption.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
So one martini is don't mean nothing, Two martinis satisfied.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Three martinis. Oh, I love it.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Okay, So I want to talk to you about this
because you and I have sort of browsed this topic
a little bit with each other, but we haven't really
talked about it. You pointed something out to me recently,
which is that I go down these rabbit holes on
(24:09):
YouTube particularly.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I will either get sent something or I'll spot something
online that has to do with a television show or
a movie or a band or a song from when
I was a kid, and then I need to spend
the next hour minimum.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Well, you don't need to. You go to YouTube something
out and you you end up really going down this
retro rabbit hole. Retro is the word, yeah, nostalgia. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
And we have a couple of friends at Vett and
Rick who are really into that too. Yeah, And we
had dinner with them recently, and I know that about them,
like I'm a trivia buff about old TV shows and
movies and stuff like that, and certainly music. But and
Rick and a vat are they remember everybody's names and
(25:05):
characters and everything.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
So we have we and I'm leaving you out of it.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yeah, we have fun reminiscing about these old TV stars,
and I think everybody does.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I think it's nice to do a little flashback and
talk about the shows and the people, the personalities and
the moments that really, you know, bring joy to your life,
of course, and I get that times and everybody's life,
and I've.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Always had a trace of that. I've always be like, oh,
you know, that's that's nice. It's a warm, fuzzy feeling.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Today's generation thirty years when I will be doing a
rabbit hole dive into Instagram.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Remember what Kishian did? Yes, and remember when she said that,
and oh, don't let me. After I get through this rant,
I want to talk to you about that. But I realized,
like the other night we were talking and you said
you were sweet about it, and you were.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Like, oh, it's so cute how you go down these
rabbit holes, and I said, you know what it is,
because I didn't used to go down those like those
lengthy a rabbit hole. It's because I don't prefer now. Really,
I prefer now in terms of us. I'm with you,
(26:18):
and there are certain things. I love, my relationship with
my kids, and I feel very blessed to still be
have a But if you're going to ask yourself, is
life yeah nicer and better now than it was thirty
years ago? I would say no, that all really depends
on how you look at it. No, it's very completely subjective. Yeah,
(26:44):
it's completely subjective. Some people go like, fuck, are you
kidding me? I wouldn't trade now with thirty years ago
for anything. Well, I'm not saying I would trade it,
but you know, when I see people is what are
considered advance, whether it's technology, and in certain ways, technology
(27:05):
has made all of our lives better and easier and
kept people safer. And there's all these accolades. I could
lay on so much of what is modern. There's also
like there's a price. You know, we're not as connected
as individuals. Humanity is not connected the way they used
(27:27):
to be. We now like and I'm guilty of it too.
I would much rather tech. Even people I love, I
would rather text them than talk to them because that's
become a habit, like I don't I can't be on
the phone for ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah. But in the same way, there are people who
I normally wouldn't would have lost touch with, and due
to social media, I now am able to, of course
somehow be connected to them and have an idea of
what's going on in their lives.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
There's frozen cons to all of it. Yeah, but the
general I'm just saying that the overall reason that I
find myself attracted to nostalgia or like I would rather
(28:16):
spend an hour watching some old Dean Martin roast really
then beyond Instagram looking at people doing stupid shit, including myself.
It's just not like it's become not interesting to me
at all.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I can see that, I understand it. But I feel
a bit of a disconnect with the past.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I know, I like you and I This is one
of the few ways of yeah, diverge because we're so
alike in so many ways.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
This is not one of them. I'm really happy living
in the present. I want to know what's going on now.
I want to know who is shaking things up now.
I want to know what to look forward to in
the future, what I should be prepared for in the future.
To me, the present is definitely where I want to be,
(29:09):
But the future is always more exciting to me than
the past. The future is not exciting to me. Really,
What do you think that is? Because I think people
just are getting worse. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
I think people overall are getting more hateful, more intolerant,
more ignorant, less educated, and more proud of being less educated.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah. That is to the.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Point where I don't really recognize my fellow man as
much as I used to.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
But we didn't know our fellow man the way we did.
We knew them way better. No we didn't. We did, No,
we didn't.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Okay, well, then I'll take that where you just sort
of like, go, hi, how you doing it? I'm good, Yeah,
instead of, you.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Know, instead of talking to somebody for thirty seconds and
knowing the kind of person that they are and what
they said.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Feel like, we're at a point now where I and
I worry about it.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Because I sometimes, even in my own thinking, when.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I'm having a discussion with myself about it, I'm like, dude,
you sound like you're one hundred years old. Don't be
an old guy talking about in my day it's not
that it's that I don't feel that this particular time
in this country, yeah, is our best of days. I
(30:37):
think that's universal, first of all. But I also look
as much as nice as it is.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
To revisit the past and talk about some trivia and
relive some of the great moments that I think we
should keep alive for future generations. We should remind them
and tell them these amazing stories of some really great people.
You know, you can't live in the past, and the
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longer that you spend time there, the more you're going
to dislike where you are.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Now, Okay, that's all true. I'm not going to give
you a shit about what you just said. It's all true.
But that's an extreme version of this. I'm saying. Here's
an example. Our buddy George Ham, who we love on
Twitter and we've become friendly with. One of George's passions
(31:40):
is style. Yeah, and so he rails against the laziness
that has overtaken people to wear sweats and flip flops
to a restaurant for dinner. You could make the argument, well,
you're just in the past. That's just not how it is.
An he's saying, like, no, we've become fucking lazy. Yeah,
(32:04):
we have, for sure, And I'm just saying that that's
one of several examples where.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Like, we're not going in the right direction. But you know,
you can either jump on that train. You can try
to redecorate that train, but you can't get off that train.
You're on that train. This is where we are and
this is what's happening to the world. So you can
(32:33):
try to contribute to that in a positive way that
feels good to you, but you can't stop it and
live in the past.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Well, I agree with that, but I disagree with two
seconds before what you said. Just as somehow it became
okay to wear shorts and flip flops to a nice
restaurant for dinner and a baseball cab, it could just
as easily turn around to go, yeah, you can't do
that anymore.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Well that I would not be down with that, right
because I don't want to be told how to dress
to go to dinner.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
But you were for a long time, and you know what,
people dress nicer, and it was a more elegant experience.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
No, I like dressing when I want to dress, and
not dressing when I don't want to dress. I don't
like being told how I should dress as a woman.
I've been told how to dress my entire fucking life,
and I am not down with that because the minute
that that happens is just people trying to control the
way people look, and that's not okay. I like the
(33:32):
diversity that we see now. I like that someone who
is twenty two years old can walk into a restaurant
wearing something that we think, oh, look, he really didn't
put any effort in it. But when we really look
at what he's wearing and the thought behind it, some
of these looks are really brilliant. And you can compare
it to when we were young and you would walk
(33:54):
into a restaurant with your tight jeans and your cowboy
boots and your big mullet fluffy mullet hair what you
mean now, and the old people in the restaurant would think, oh,
look at these young people. They don't know how to dress.
And everybody else was young in that place recognized you
as a pop star, and people even were inspired by your.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Luck in the heyday of my tight jeans, cowboy boots
and mullet. I knew that certain places, if I were
going to go eat there I'm not wearing that. I'm
going to dress it up because it's just appropriate. Like
I don't, I get it. Like you and I both
talk about. We live part time in Malibu, which is
(34:36):
the most casual, laid back place you can. I see
people constantly out to breakfast in their ugs.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I see them in their jamas whatever. And you know what,
I go, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
That's fine because that's that's accepted for that place, and
most of the places that cater to that serve people. Right,
I'm saying that, up until recently, and I don't mean
really recently, but up until the last five or six
years particularly, you had to sort of like go, yeah,
(35:13):
I can just wear sweats and flip flops to the Chipotle,
no disrespect to Chipotlet, because you know, I fucking loved you. Yes,
but you're not going to wear that to like a
really nice, beautiful, elegant restaurant. Yes, I agree, and people
now go now I can do whatever I want.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I agree. It's like we talked about in one of
the last couple of podcasts with the guy who was
sitting yes next to us, and he was wearing flip
flops with a little beanie. I don't like it, And
I was like, what, that's just confusing, But it's okay,
completely contradicting me. I'm not condicting. I'm not. I don't
like being told he didn't either what to wear. He
(35:50):
doesn't either, and that's fine. And you're kind of telling
him that it's not okay for him to wear what
he were. Well, it's not, but it's his PROBH. My god,
it's not okay, but it's fine. We are living in
a time where, you know, there's been so much talk
about freedom and people taking freedom away. Free DOMV. Yeah, freedom,
(36:15):
But the truth is that we need to have the
freedom to dress like a total fucking idiot or to
dress like an elegant person. There are times when I
I don't want to dress up to go somewhere. But
if we bring all that back, then we're getting to
the point where look when I was when I had
(36:35):
my part time job in high school, if I wore
a dress or a skirt, which I did a lot,
I had to wear pantyhose. Sheer pantyhose hot. It's not hot,
it was literally hot because they were nylon and it
was ninety five degrees in New Jersey, so yeah, it
was not no. And so I remember one time I
(36:56):
was at the register and I wasn't wearing the sheer hose,
but I was close close shoes and a longish skirt
and my manager, who was this bald, tubby, fucked tard moron.
He was just just an annoying, misogynist asshole, and I
(37:20):
tried to just kind of, you know, deal with him
and be polite to him and be respectful to him
because he was the manager. He literally came up to
me and said, you're not wearing pantyhose. I'm gonna have
to write you up. And I said, yes, I am,
I'm wearing pantyhose and he said, no, you're not. I said,
there's sheer pantyhose, you just can't see them. And he says,
you're not wearing I said, do you need to touch
(37:41):
my legs and feel my legs to see if if
I'm wearing pantyhose or because if you do that then
we can just go right to hr with that. And
he was like, don't be funny. I can see that
you're being funny, and next time that you don't wear panties,
I'm gonna write you up. I said, I'm wearing pantyhose.
What would have been the difference between me wearing pantyhose
or not wearing pantyhose. There would have been no difference.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
That's such an extreme ridiculous That's what it leads to.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
It leads to men controlling the way women look at
least for all them. That's controlling what you look like.
It is very related and there's a very fine line. Okay,
dress codes are bullshit, especially in a time when we yes,
dress codes are bullshit.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Except look, there have been dress codes and that still
exists in certain restaurants or certain private clubs, et cetera,
where it's kind of like what we've experienced the last
two years with masks. If you want to enter that establishment,
they have their own rules. They're entitled to make the
rules as to what you can and cannot wear in
(38:45):
that establishment, and you can either go in there and
abide by those rules or say, I'm not going in there.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I would not go into there. I looked at through
the time when you know there would be doormen in
front of clubs and lounges and bars, and if you
walked up wanting to get in there, they would look
you up and down and literally judge the fuck out
of you and what you look like and what you
dress like, and then decide whether they wanted to let
(39:12):
you in or not. Some moron with a little fucking
clipboard who was a total loser dipshit is now judging
they wanted to perpetuate a certain kind of thing that's
never going to come back, that's never going to come
back to. It's not okay. But that's not okay. That's
not what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
I'm talking I'm talking about going out to a nice,
yes beautiful restaurant and seeing people in flip flops and
shorts and T shirts and going really, that's not okay
because guess what, it's.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Not that they don't own any other clothes, right, I
don't feel like it, so in a way, look, I
get that that's not okay, I think, and it's especially
not okay when I see these adorable, gorgeous women dressing up,
putting effort into what they look like. They do their makeup,
they do their hair, they do they're wearing beautiful clothes
(40:04):
with nice shoes. Everything looks They look well put together
and modern, and they look stylish, and the guy is
wearing cargo pants and flip flops and a T shirt
which isn't even clean. That's not okay. But it's not
not okay because because they're being respectful, that's his cowboy
(40:25):
boots type jeans, and that's not a style. That's not
a style. But there are young people who walk into
a place wearing jeans and a baseball cap and really
cool sneakers and a really great T shirt with a
flannel and you know, a lot of it is designer clothes,
or a lot of it is just really well put together.
And it may not be appropriate for us to walk
(40:46):
into that establishment that way, but for someone like one
of your sons, it's perfectly acceptable and expected from someone
who's twenty two or twenty six to walk into an
establishment wearing something really soper hip and modern to their generation.
So I think that I get what you mean. I
think people should sometimes put a little more effort into By.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
The way, clear about this, I'm not pro codes.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Yeah, I hate codes, like.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
I don't want I'm not saying, hey, you know, these
restaurants should establish address. No, I'm not saying that at all.
I'm saying that again, it goes back to what I
was saying, humanity has gotten so fucking lazy, right, People
generally have like they could give a shit, They couldn't
give the slightest fuck about presenting themselves in a nice way.
(41:38):
That it's just becomes too easy to be lazy.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
That's all I'm saying. I understand what you're saying, and
I get both sides. You know. This made me think
back to a time where this is back in the nineties,
where I was at MTV, and the look back in
the early nineties is very much the look that is
that is in style now. So when I see five
year old girls wearing their ripped jeans that are high
(42:05):
waisted and crop tops and oversized blazers, that's what I
used to wear. And I remember coming home and my
mom and my grandma would be appalled at what I
was wearing, and they would say, oh my god, you
went out looking like that, like people recognize you. You're
on television. You should really put more effort into it.
And I remember thinking, oh my god, you guys are
(42:25):
so antiquated. That's what I'm wearing is people want to
see me wearing the hipps clothes, and I'm wearing things
from designers samples that are given to me.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Another example of a particular style, cargo pants and flip
flops and in a dirty T shirt is not a style?
Speaker 2 (42:44):
What if it is is that person style? What if
that is that person's style? I called bullshit. I just
I agree with you, But I think that there's a
very fine line between once you get into that. You know,
what if a male wants to walk into an establishment
wearing a skirt, what if a woman wants to walk
(43:04):
into a stasis totally fine, an establishment wearing a men
men's tailored suit. We have to get past all of
these gender specific and tighter doing our next podcast, Like now,
I'm just saying that this is a very fine line
(43:24):
between you know, you probably shouldn't wear flip flops to
that nice restaurant. Sure we know that, but you know what,
we have to embrace the fact that you can do
that because that wasn't allowed at a point and we
have the freedom to do that now and we're so
much more evolved recognizing that clothes don't mean anything. The
(43:45):
way you look doesn't mean anything. When you look at
people who have a lot of money. I'm not talking
rich people who make a good living, who are newly rich,
who need to get the new Mercedes to keep up
with the Joneses. Right, I'm talking about people who have
made billions. When you look at like Bill.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
Gates and his friends or his spouse or whatever, and
you look at a reality star who is making maybe
you know, half a million dollars a year or a
million dollars a year, which is great money, but it
is by no means a millionaire.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Or a billionaire. You see these people with new money
trying to show off their money. You see them with
their designer bags, with their designer shoes, everything is designer,
and you've got they're wearing T shirts with some name
on the T shirt of some high end brand. Just
(44:47):
say they look expensive and they're getting paid. Their getting
not always not always in a lot of cases, No
they're not. I'm talking about regular, everyday people that I
see in the street. These are also influencers. You see
them spending every last dime on a status symbol. But
that's been forever, that's been forever, but more than ever today,
(45:11):
if you notice people who really have money are not
interested in that. They are the ones wearing the flip
flops to the restaurant because they give zero fox.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Oftentimes, I know the people I know who don't give
a fuck, just wear nice clothes to a nice restaurant.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
If they're going to a burger place for lunch, they
don't care. I get that. But if they're going to
a nice restaurant, they're going to like dress appropriately. But
who's to say what's appropriate? Who is me? Who's the
decision making? You you are yes, okay? Ask me. I'll
tell you.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Okay really quickly because I want to wrap this up
as we're starving. One of the things that you covered
on your E show is this whole Kanye Kim Kardashian,
Pete Davidson thing.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Yeah, you know, my listeners probably don't know this.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
But what level of interest do I generally have in
celebrity gossip?
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Zero zero? I don't give off fuck.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
In fact, I sort of like like rag on people
who are interested in that ship. Yes, this is compelling
to me only because and I have great respect for
Kanye's work.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
I did too, I really like, I have great respect.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
For Kim Kardashian and the Kardashians brand. I think that
they've worked their asses off and they continue to Yeah,
you know. I mean, you can ragging them all day long.
I get that, but you can't just you can't sort
of like dismiss the success of their absolutely of their.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
Family brand like that should doesn't just happen.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
And I respect Pete Davidson's career, So it's all a
level of playing field in terms of that. At what
point does this go really bad?
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (47:00):
It's gary in my opinion, and I don't Here's the
other thing. This is one of the reasons I hate
celebrity gossip is because nobody knows these people. We know
what their real deal is.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
We don't know.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
For all we know Kanye is pulling the biggest scam
on everybody, sure, but I don't think he is. I
think he's a really deeply troubled guy who is potentially
dangerous to himself or others, and his behavior is so
erratic and so bizarre. At what point do we stop
(47:33):
laughing at this or just gossiping about it? And what
can be done?
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Yeah? I mean what, I think that. Yeah, there are
some bits that are funny, and I think they intend
for them to be funny. I think that because Kanye
and Pete Davidson are both entertainers, they're witty and they
are funny, but you're right, I am concerned for I'm
concerned for children, for the children, for Kim, because this
(48:02):
is this behavior is very normal to society, to people.
This happens all the time. We all know that when
somebody breaks up, everybody starts acting up and everybody starts
using the children as pawn. And as wrong as it is,
it's so wrong and it's so fucked up, but it's normal. Unfortunately,
it's what happens, and we are just able to see
(48:23):
it because we're talking about people who live their life
in the spotlight. They share everything, they share texts, they
share that you know, their life is a reality show literally,
so they're used to sharing everything. And I'm just I know,
I'm just hoping that this dies down before it gets worse.
I'm hoping that maybe Kanye falls in love with someone
(48:44):
who is able to balance him out a little bit,
because right now it's really hot. This situation is really hot,
it's dangerous, and I just hope I hope that he,
if he does need help, that his family is able
to help him and provide the help, the professional psychiatric
(49:05):
help that he needs. And if he's just doing this
for show, then good on him. Then we're all caught
up in it. You know, I don't think that's the case.
And I don't think this is funny.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Yeah, I don't think this is remotely funny, especially for
these kids, you know verds.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Some people say, yeah, but their kids are really little. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
I guess what five years from now, these kids are
going to be able to access all of this crazy
ass shit that their parents did, particularly one parent aka
Kanye who it's embarrassing, like it's not okay.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Well, these kids, we need to give them a little
bit more credit than people are giving them. Because they
were born on reality television, not by choice. That's not
their choice, No it's not. But it is their life.
So the same way that it wasn't your choice to
be born to the parents that you were born and
to the lifestyle that you were born, but that's what
it is and you embraced it because those are your parents.
(49:59):
It's the only life that you you know, these are
their parents. This is the only life that they know.
They have a great life, They have a loving, caring family.
You're wrong.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
They as parents, they need to be more responsible for
their children.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
I think I think that that is also relative. You
are born to the family that you're born in into
and you embrace it until you get to an age
where you're able to understand it and then make a decision.
Then you choose whether or not you want to stay
with the beliefs that you were brought up in, with
the system that you were brought up in, or not.
(50:35):
You know, it's the same thing for all of us,
you know, like, for example, my parents took me and
my sister out to bars and pubs and because that
was the culture in Spain, and when we came to
this country, oh you can't take your child to the bar.
It's it's all relative, but it's what you're born into,
what nationality, what customs, what traditions, and you embrace it.
(50:55):
If you have loving parents who care about you, you
embrace it until you're able to make your own decisions.
So I think these kids were born into reality and
to a reality show, literally, and they're going to understand it.
They're going to understand what that life is about more
than any of us ever could, because that's all they know.
It doesn't make it any less dangerous to their exactly
(51:16):
mental health right now, right right, all right? I'm starving. Yeah,
this has been fun. I miss I missed talking to
you guys, but just remember just we'll announce on our
socials when we have a new episode, So stay tuned
and we'll we'll be together again soon. Be safe, be healthy,
and we'll talk to you as soon as we can. Bye.
(51:39):
Thanks for listening to Tequila Talk with Daisy Fuentez and
Richard Marx.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
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