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April 12, 2021 20 mins
It's time for another round of Unsatisfactories! This week, we discuss the recent feud between the Mom Jeans and Skinny Jeans Generations and explore the history of generational conflict. We also
discuss a harrowing tale of one woman's brave quest to find an outhouse without a giant bear in waiting.

Links to stories covered:
https://www.newsbreak.com/alaska/haines/news/2165931781719/something-just-immediately-bit-me-in-the-butt-haines-woman-survives-outhouse-bear
https://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/a-new-study-reveals-surprising-reason-why-every-generation-complains-about-kids-these-days.html

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(00:15):
Welcome to terrible people doing terrible things. I'm Laura, a true crime and
horror fan who loves to read aboutterrible stuff. And I'm Amanda, and
I'm a licensed psychologist who enjoys studyingthe worst of humanity. So we are
coming back at you with one ofour mini episodes again, so Unsatisfactories.
And I've got a couple of littlearticles for you, Laura that came on

(00:40):
my radar that I thought would bepretty appropriate for this. I'm very interested.
I'm intrigued. Color me intrigued.I love me surprised. So we're
I mean, I would assume everyone'sfamiliar with the generational beef that's popping up
everywhere, and it's the millennials andgen z ears. Yeah, millennials,

(01:03):
gen z having a little a littlecurve for which, by the way,
I am a millennial. I amtoo. Yeah, yeah, I'm an
old millennial. I'm an older millennial, but I definitely am if you are
young. Millennials are like twenty sixright now, that's like that cut off
for millennial. I think the youngestmillennial is twenty six, and I'm like

(01:23):
barely a millennial. I don't knowthe millennial generation. Millennial, well are
like the older millennial generation. Ifeel like kind of got intermingled into the
gen X. I think it wasit gen X that's between boomer and millennial.
Yeah, it's like, yeah,people who are like in their early
forties. I think now, yes, our gen X. So I think

(01:45):
we kind of get like kind ofsmeared in with that. But I have
heard and I've seen because I watchedTikTok because I'm bored and it's quarantine.
I have nothing else to do withmy life. So I do see a
lot of like, you know,I see a lot of gen Z kids
on there, you know, makingfun of millennials for their side parts.
And mom jean jeans they're called skinnyjeans are out. Yeah, skinny jeans

(02:10):
and mom jeans are in. Momjeans are in. Baggy jeans are in.
You know, they make they makejinkos now Jenko jeans again. And
I'm talking about oh yeah, Ifeel like that's where we're going. We're
revolving back the other way. Yeah, but we always do. But like
there are some like older millennials.And here's the thing between older millennials and

(02:32):
gen Z gen Z or children yeah, they're children, they're middle school,
they're high school exactly. Millennials wereadults. Yeah, so we need to
act accordingly, you know, acertain point. So there are a lot
of like older millennial like mostly whitewomen, um on TikTok, like making
fun and like of like these teenagersand stuff and like clapping back about their

(02:57):
middle parts and stuff. I'm like, why do you care, gen Z.
I hate to break this to you, but every younger generation thinks the
older generation is lame. Oh yeah, absolutely, every single time. It
doesn't I think my parents are lame. Yeah do I think my parents are
lame? I think it's technology andstuff, Like I think they're disconnected.
Yeah yeah, so like I thinkthey're wise in a lot of ways,

(03:20):
but I think they're very disconnected andwouldn't be able to can't function as well
in society, which probably isn't fair, right, And that's due to technology
because we get up in the onlineage and we grew up with that.
So you know, you got tothink, like for us learning gen Z's
technology is it probably isn't going tobe as difficult for us as it was

(03:40):
for our parents to learn our technology. Yeah, because I mean, come
on, it gets harder to learnas you're older. Yeah, you know
what I mean, you didn't growup with it, so and when you're
young you absorb things like nothing absolutely, and we've already got like that prototype
for like this is how you workwith technology. The learning is not nearly
a step for us as it wouldbe for our parents generation or someone who

(04:04):
didn't grow up with computers and cellphones. Yeah. Yeah, but it's
funny you said, like, youknow, the younger generation always thinks the
older generation is lame, which istrue, But then we've got this other
effect where the older generation thinks theyounger generation generation is thinks the younger generation
is disrespectful, stupid, entitled,not going to make it through life.

(04:29):
Yeah, yeah, I get thata lot. I've heard that a lot,
a lot of oh well when youget older. No, I'm going
to function like an adult because Igot older like you when you were a
teenager. You know what I mean. It's it's so funny to be like,
I get the beef. I mean, it's just kind of there.
It's going to be there because likethe generation that you're making fun of is
your parents. Yes, And it'sjust kind of par for the course,

(04:53):
it's always been par for the course. You don't want to be like your
parents when you're a teenager because you'rea teenager. Yeah, yeah, there
are gonna be dissimilarities, right,You're gonna behave and think very differently.
We don't need to attack them aboutit. We don't. But apparently this
has been something happening since the timeof Socrates. Really, yes, so,

(05:13):
And I don't want to take creditfor this. So this is an
article published by Inky Inc dot comand the title of the article is a
new study reveals the surprising reason whyevery generation complains about kids these days.
And it starts out by quoting Socratessaying, the children now love luxury,
they have bad manners, contempt forauthority, they show disrespect for elders,

(05:36):
and love chatter in place of exercise. So even children back in Socrates day.
Yeah, there, I need thisbeef in this belief about the younger.
That's why I'm saying it's par forcourse, because children are never going
to take things as seriously as adultsdo because they haven't gone through what you've
gone through. Yeah, not sayingthat, like you know, gen z,

(05:58):
like younger people haven't gone through things, because there are of course people
all across the board who have gonethrough horrific things, but we've all got
shit. Oh yeah, you know, and you're just mad because what the
kids are lazy because they like toplay instead of like, well, and
are they lazy or are you perceivingthem to be like? Or are you
too hard? Yeah? Are youbeing too tough on you know, kids

(06:21):
and stuff like that, because personally, I think kids grow up too fast.
No, yea way too fast,and they don't get to be young,
They don't get to be innocent anymorefor very long. So just let'm
fucking have fun. You know,we're safe as long as they're safe.
Because the Internet, that's what that'swhat scares me about gen Z's. I
don't know that they understand the dangerthe dangerous yeah right, because you know,

(06:46):
my parents when I was a teenagerwere like so angry I had in
my space. Yeah yeah, we'refurious, And they were like, you're
putting your pictures on the Internet.Somebody's gonna have those pictures and you don't
know what they're doing with those pictures. Now my mind say it is if
you want to do something with thepictures, you can have them have fun,
good luck. Maybe cut me acheck every now and then, but

(07:08):
it would be nice and nice.But no, they were so angry.
And the reason they were so angrywas because they were scared because they heard
on the news and you know,there have been my Space killers, Craigslist
killers. Yes, it's a wayfor you to connect with other people.
And unfortunately, when you have away to connect with other people, bad
people are going to use that toalso connect with people. Oh yeah,

(07:29):
well they're gonna take advantage of thosevulnerabilities, some of the technological vulnerabilities and
the generational vulnerabilities in terms of risktaking behaviors and lack of kind of lack
of forward thinking to some extent.It is. It is because like as
you get older, like I've knownpeople who have gotten into really terrible situations

(07:50):
and terrible things happened to them becausethey were in the wrong place at the
wrong time or doing something and nobodyknew where they were or you know whatever.
So I think it's like, aslong as you're teaching everyone like just
be careful, yeah, it's smartabout it, but also let them have
fun. I mean, yeah,that's their thing. Yeah, and it's

(08:11):
not going anywhere. It's not goinganywhere. And these are also kids,
like we were not quarantine when wewere teenagers. Yes, I cannot imagine,
yeah, trying to corral a teenagerduring these these times now because I've
seen the videos of like house partiesand stuff like, you know, so

(08:35):
I don't know. And we're alsomean to, you know, older people
because we call we are we are. It's it cuts both ways, and
you know, it cuts both ways. But so there was actually a study
conducted recently by John Protsco and Jonathan'sSchooler of the University of California, Santa
Barbara, and they called this theKids these Days effect, where the older

(08:58):
generation, you know, kind oftends to look down on the younger generation.
And their research is suggesting that alot of this has to do with
the fact that we think about ourselvesand we misremember ourselves at the age of
eighteen, seventeen, sixteen, andso we're comparing this image we have of
ourselves. Do we really oh yeah, oh yeah. So in the study

(09:22):
and they sampled almost two thousand people, they ask participants to compare so they
were like, okay, so thiscurrent generation, this younger generation gen Z
compare them to yourself at that age, compare them to this other generation,
and they compared them on things likerespect, intelligence, how articulate and well

(09:43):
read they are, and overall,if you have a guess as to how
people rated the generations, well,I can assure you that they have rated
gen Z as like bottom of theintelligence barrel, because I can't tell you
how many things I've seen misspelled,and I'm not I'm sure if it's done
intentionally anymore, I don't. Idon't know, because it's like basic words

(10:05):
like we're like we're talking like fuckingelementary level English, and like so I
think I think it might actually justbe a thing to like piss older people
off. Sure, Yeah, it'sintentionally spelling wrong at least, I hope,
Yeah, the breakdown of the Englishlanguage. Yeah, gen Z,
I really, I really hope youguys are misspelling stuff on purpose. Because
some of the words like misspelling thingslike here and stuff like that, that

(10:28):
just makes me concerned for you.Yeah, no, no judgment, just
now you need help, yea fourletter words? Come on, guys,
you're just not Although, to befair, our language does suck and we
have like you know, they're thereand there here, and here we're and
where and where? Yeah? Where? Where? And where? W A
R E you're right? Got we A R w h E r E

(10:52):
and w A r e Okay?Three wars? And where is it?
And whereof yep? Four wars?Yes, God help us all? Or
where the Yeah. So in thestudy, they also found that how people
responded was kind of based on whatthey were like themselves. So people that
really value respect tended to say thatthis upcoming generation was disrespectful. People that

(11:16):
scored high on intelligence tended to believethe generation below them was not as intelligent.
So you're just shipping on people.You're just looking down on other people
and thinking that you're better to someextent. But it's also like it's also
just based on your own misperceptions,you know, maybe like a little projecting,

(11:37):
possibly some projecting, but it's likepeople who excel in a particular trait
or area tend to look at theyounger generation and come to the conclusion that,
you know, for the most part, it doesn't seem like they have
as much of this trait. Soit's not like ill conceived in and of
itself, but it seems to bethis kind of cognitive buy or a misperception

(12:01):
that we have, and that kindof is skewing our perception of these other
generations. And do you call themthe tide pod generation? Yeah, which,
by the way, that was millennialstoo. I'm sure there were young
millennials fucking eating tide pods. Somepeople eating tide I mean my dogs would
probably eat them. Your dogs wouldeat literally your dead bodies. They will,

(12:24):
oh, they will. And itis it's based on these memories,
this recall of what we remember ourselvesbeing like at that same age, and
so we are misremembering. We areassuming I was more intelligent, I wouldn't
make those mistakes. I was respectfulwhen I wouldn't had quite been the case.
Do you think that's only if theythey were like testing people with good

(12:46):
self confidence, because I'm pretty sureI would be like manh, I steam
about on par with where I'm at. Yeah, and I'm thirty one.
So to some extent, like itdid seem to change based on the since
perception of themselves. So someone whodoesn't view themselves as intelligent probably isn't as
likely to rate the next generation isless intelligent. That seems to me just

(13:07):
like a I don't want to callit self confidence because like it's okay to
have self confidence. Self confidence isn'ta bad thing. I think it's just
like a like in the back oftheir mind self consciousness kind of thing.
Yeah, that's like, well Ihad to work really hard to get where,
and that's always everybody's things. WellI had to work really hard.

(13:28):
Everybody worked hard, you know whatI mean. Like, I hate it
when people are like, well,no, that's a I worked hard and
we're not talking about you, yeah, talking about in general, but in
general, we're not saying that youdid not work for your money. Betsy.
We know you did. Yeah,watched you. We know you worked
hard, Betsy. It's okay,So but he's still from you. It's

(13:52):
I thought that was an interesting differentI guess a way to kind of think
about it. It is because Imean I did just see, like literally
just I think maybe two days ago, I watched a YouTube video about the
gen Z like Millennial battle, andI was like, wait, gen Z
and millennials are having like no,like I knew. I saw some stuff
like of gen Z making fun oflike old people on TikTok. But I'm
like, well that's just teenagers.Yeah, of course they're gonna tell us

(14:15):
North Side parts are lame, Caroline. I'm not gonna change my fucking part.
I just want to know where Ican get pants that aren't skinny jeans
at this point that they're not genosabout the we don't have to wear skinny
jeans anymore. I'm not because Ifinally came over to that side and now
I'm like, I don't know,man, I gotta get reused to my

(14:35):
like kick boot cut from American Eagle. Yes, jeens, the flare.
I had to get used to jeansat general. When I was like in
middle school, I wouldn't wear jeansbecause I don't know, I have sensory
problems and I thought that they botheredmy legs like they they can feel good.
Yeah, So I wore velvet pantsin multiple different colors, maroon,

(15:01):
black, baby, and I'm talking, we're talking like vlore where you touch
it and it does. Yeah.I was really fucking popular in middle school.
Goes Laura with her velvet and oversizedT shirts. Okay, T shirt
fucking high school, I know,right, m hm. I just want

(15:24):
to wipe those memories completely. Soyeah, Um, I also came across
this article about a woman being bitin the butt by a bear. Mmmm,
that can't be pleasant. Um,I'm just imagining how much damage a
bear bite does. Yeah, I'mhoping it just was like a little nibble.

(15:45):
And I think it just as forthe most part. And this is
from it looks like K two kt oo dot org. So it's some
kind of news broadcast website and theheadline is something just immediately bitten me in
the butt Haynes woman survives outhouse bearAnd this took place in Alaska, of

(16:07):
course it did. It's not Florida. Where else are you gonna get that
bitten? The asked by a bear? Russia? Canada, Canada, Alaska,
Montana. Maybe we're grizzly bears Tennessee. I think we got some grizzlies.
Yeah. Maybe No, that ColoradoMountains. I don't know. I

(16:27):
don't think I've ever even seen abear. I'll know either. You got
three different bears, You got threedifferent responses to survive. I have questions
on this because she got her assbit in an outhouse. Yeah, was
the bear in the outhouse? Youcome through the bottom? Because I always
worry about that. He came throughthe bottom. Yes, so fuck you.

(16:48):
Yeah, so never again that thiswoman was just using an outhouse.
She thought something by her on thebutt, and um, it was the
dead of enter so she didn't botherto like check too much. I guess
what was happening around her, whichI wouldn't think till I would think to
look around me for bears. Iwouldn't think to look in the toilet.

(17:10):
I wouldn't think to look. Nobodyis going to think to look in the
fucking outhouse before they sit down.There's only supposed to be snakes potentially coming
up out of toilet. Okay,I've never had an outhouse. Now that
you're telling me that there's snakes,I probably would check every time. Yeah,
but also, like, have youever been seen those the camping toilets
and stuff, or have you everbeen out somewhere where there's just a hole

(17:30):
in the ground or it's an elevatedhole. No, but I know what
you're talking about. I hate thosebecause all it is under there is nothingness.
So when you sit down, youfeel the breeze that comes from the
creepy depths of which the poop lives. And I every time I'm like they're
a gator. A gator. Ohyeah, yeah, gators fucking bite my

(17:52):
hoopa yah. Sewer gators, NewYork sewer gators. So she didn't check
her surrounding, was she like?Hey? She? So, she says
she sat down on the toilet seat, something immediately bit her in the butt.
She jumps up, screams, andthey decide there, you know.
She calls her brother over because thisis near their yurt that they're staying in
in the area, and so hecomes running over. They're both investigating.

(18:15):
She decides to finally like lift upthe toilet seat, and she's like,
right at the level of the toiletseat is a gigantic like bear face staring
up at like a big bear,not even like a little bear. Yes,
not Yeah, how did he getin there? I thought, Mary,
I don't know how outhouses work.I don't either. She's saying that
the next day the bear was gone, and she's not sure if it was

(18:37):
like a full on bite or anip or a claw because she didn't really
have a big injury. Well,that's I made it too. I'm assuming
that it was like one of thoseyou know what dogs do when you tell
them like be easy, and theydo the little little nibble with their front
teeth. Yes, yeah, thatso that's what happened to the ladies.
Butthole. Maybe someone's been training thisbear to bite people. Maybe he has

(18:57):
a camera on his head and insome perv's bear. Yeah, in Alaska
it's Vladimir Putin's bear. It's spyingon Americans in their ouses. How I
can't do Russian? How do theysheet? I can only I can only
do the Russian accent if I talkabout vodka and Wanda, my bear wants

(19:22):
wood curve, such a such aum. I can't do anything in something
accent. Sorry, guys, Iknow we suck. It's just proof that
we suck. We like to dothem take it as I like to try,
and everything comes back to doctor mmangela, which I still I can't
do now sol But and that's allI've got for sweet these unsatisfactory be sure

(19:48):
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