Cravings, Conflicts, and Cantina Tunes

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Ever wondered why certain songs make you crave tacos and margaritas instantly? Tune in as we chat about the powerful, almost Pavlovian response to summer jams like "Volver Volver" and our neighbor's relentless Spanish guitar practice. We humorously consider hiring him for his unique talents while pondering whether playing cantina music regularly could solve our Mexican food cravings. Plus, we laugh about our unpredictable podcast schedule—affectionately dubbed "seasonal"—and share heartwarming moments that highlight life's quirks and surprises.

From Margaret Thatcher's legacy to Kurt Cobain's tragic end, our conversation takes unexpected turns. We debate philosophical concepts like Plato's cave and stress inoculation, drawing from past episodes to reflect on their real-world applications. Recent political events and cultural phenomena like Trump, Hunter Biden, and the Met Gala also make an appearance. Plus, our foray into meditation with Sam Harris's app and a nostalgic look at college protests set the stage for a light-hearted cocktail debate: gimlet vs. giblet.

In a more serious vein, we tackle the Israel-Palestine conflict, drawing parallels to local disputes within an HOA. Generational tensions and insights from a former SEAL Team Six member on high-stakes missions add depth to our dialogue. We then examine the intriguing notion of idea ownership, with historical nods to Tesla, Edison, and John Muir. As we wrap up, we discuss national parks' preservation, the impact of technological advancements, and even the dark history of the Donner Party. Join us for a blend of historical insight, cultural reflection, and plenty of laughs.

Episode Transcript

Dylan (00:00):
This is the Terribly Unoblivious Podcast.
Yep, I said it before and I'llsay it again Life moves pretty
fast.

Brad (00:10):
You don't stop and look around once in a while, you
could miss it.
You don't know this song, doyou I?

Dylan (00:31):
wrote this song.
You wrote Volver Volver, yeah.

Brad (00:40):
God, this just has summer jams written all over it.
You do know how often I eat inMexican restaurants.
Right, I forgot about that.
I do know that song.
That is an absolute banger andclassic.
Last night at baseball therewas.

Dylan (01:10):
The style was hard to interpret it almost sounded like
the beginning of a mariachiband, but like, are we talking
dugout music or no?
No, no, no.
This was like announcer music.

Brad (01:16):
This was a house like two blocks away, oh okay, and we
couldn't realize if it was justsomebody playing really loud or
if there was a street fest ofsome sort going on.
No, it was just a dude that wasjust practicing this one song

(01:36):
over and over and over, at fullvolume, so it had a very Spanish
guitar kind of vibe to it.
Okay, it sounded a littlemariachi, but electric, if you
can imagine, like a steel guitar.
No, not a steel guitar, it wasjust a guitar, but okay.
But the like, the rhythms andthe and all that were okay, were

(02:01):
similar and he was gonna getreally good at like that one
particular song how long do youthink he's been practicing for?

Dylan (02:09):
um?

Brad (02:10):
I think years just on that one song, the one song and
we've only gotten five bars.

Dylan (02:15):
One of the other coaches only five bars.

Brad (02:17):
And one of the other coaches was like I swear I
remember this song from lastyear and he would just
occasionally crank the amp upand go to town on this is it,
the arsenal that does taps inthe morning and at night?

Dylan (02:29):
no, they do rev.
They do revelry in the morningthat he taps at night, correct?
So you think this guy justthinks he's the the electric
mariachi band guy for thebaseball diamond and that's just
his job no no because?

Brad (02:44):
no, because it's not every time it should be you guys
might need to hire him now.

Dylan (02:49):
I kind of like I need you here on your deck blasting the
hybrid steel guitar.

Brad (02:57):
I I do want to start blasting some music.
I think like what?
Probably what you started withvolvera.

Dylan (03:06):
Oh god, there's so much good, so much good.
Can't we'll call cantina music.
Yeah, that's yeah I have been.

Brad (03:16):
Maybe we've talked about this before, but I've been
trained to like the pavlov dogs.
My mouth waters when I hear it,because I don't typically hear
cantina music.

Dylan (03:29):
Street tacos, burritos, chips, salsa, margarita.

Brad (03:32):
Any of it.
I hear the music and I'm like Ireally want some Mexican food
right now.

Dylan (03:38):
That's awesome.

Brad (03:39):
Which leads me to believe.

Dylan (03:41):
You're eating at the wrong restaurant.

Brad (03:42):
No, that if, if I happen to be in a place or maybe
suddenly start just listening tothat music all the time, that I
might get big because I wouldjust eat.

Dylan (03:56):
Okay, martin, and I now have an experiment behind your
back.
I need to text, martin, and weare going to just constantly,
anytime we see you, speaking ofseeing you been a while.
April 8th last podcast.
Um, it's only june last podcast.

Brad (04:16):
Uh, the aired, aired, sorry, air date so that means
either two years ago, I don'teven remember Was it late March,
or did we do one right before?
Well, I believe we decided thatmaybe these are seasonal now.

Dylan (04:34):
We did talk about having seasons, but that was probably a
moment of weakness.

Brad (04:37):
Nah, welcome to season two where all this shit falls out.

Dylan (04:42):
Yeah, speaking though while you were on the phone with
your world falling apart.
Um on on this world, on onapril 8th, that day in the world
, margaret thatcher died, 2013april 8th.
Is she like a model?
Margaret thatcher was the firstfemale prime minister of the uk

(05:04):
.
Oh right, yeah, like a rolemodel.
Yeah, exactly good, you pulledthat one in her and her and
ronnie right, mr reagan,president, reagan to you fought
the commies oh, I thought youwere to say the affair word, no,
no, I think Reagan had a babeof a wife.

(05:28):
Did they win?
I don't know.
I think that's in CharlieWilson's war.
They took the wall down.
They did take the wall down.
They did some cool shit inAfghanistan, but obviously that
worked out well for us.
No, no, that was when theSoviets what?

Brad (05:44):
No, the Soviets did no that.

Dylan (05:45):
But we did some cia underground we.
Yeah, of course, yeah, yeah, ofcourse we did so.
Oh, the other one was kurtcobain, found three days after
his suicide in 94 I justhappened to walk by and I didn't
see this body laying here.

Brad (06:02):
No, no.

Dylan (06:03):
Door open On cue.

Brad (06:05):
As always, door always opens, except this time it's a
hot dude instead of a hot chick.

Dylan (06:12):
So what was the last episode's theme that we did?

Brad (06:19):
Oh Stress, inoculation Nope.

Dylan (06:24):
Fire shadows.

Brad (06:26):
Underwater bomb making.

Dylan (06:28):
Jesus, you gotta get us fucking.
Why you gotta put?

Brad (06:30):
Why you?

Dylan (06:31):
always gotta get us flagged.

Brad (06:32):
What you always have to get us flagged.
You can't say bomb no, bomb,bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb,
bomb.
Hot takes.

Dylan (06:38):
That would be a hot take.
That would be a hot take.
No, plato's caveman.
Oh right, right, I feel likewe've been living in it.

Brad (06:47):
You know, you know what's kind of fun, what is actually
taking some of the lessons uhthat we talk about yeah and
actually be about.
Or do you actually take it andapply them?
How have you applied them?

(07:08):
What have we talked about?
What was the Japanese fire?

Dylan (07:11):
god, the deity I don't remember.

Brad (07:18):
What was that one about?
Masogi Doing hard?

Dylan (07:19):
shit, they danced around the pole.

Brad (07:21):
Yeah, the wrong way.

Dylan (07:22):
I've done some.

Brad (07:23):
Masogi.

Dylan (07:24):
A little bit.
You braved the wilderness I did.

Brad (07:27):
That was kind of a Masogi.
What else did you do?
A lot of conflict, shit.

Dylan (07:34):
So your Masogi was conflict yeah.

Brad (07:37):
I don't like it.
I don't like doing it.

Dylan (07:41):
Brave in the wilderness, so you want to talk about it.
Sports, know.
I feel like the the generaltheme of this podcast is you
venting about sports yeah, it'sreally not about sports, though,
is it?

Brad (07:55):
what do you think it's about?
I don't know.

Dylan (07:57):
You think ted lasso is about soccer coach beard makes
it about soccer he does.

Brad (08:03):
He does a little bit.

Dylan (08:06):
Rook Rook to be 12.
That's not.
There's no 12 in chess but rookto be four.

Brad (08:13):
Uh yeah, it's just that's not what it's about.

Dylan (08:17):
Life lessons man.
Yeah Well speaking of life,life lessons.
Do you know what's happenedsince our last podcast?
Trump has been convicted.
Hunter Biden has been convicted.
The House vacated SpeakerJohnson's dismissal case.

(08:39):
The Met Gala happened.
I don't.
Ye wasn't there, so it doesn'tmatter.
I don't.
I'm't.
He wasn't there, so it doesn'tmatter.
I don't, I'm still in thecollege protests that one got
wild.

Brad (08:51):
I didn't see any of that.
I did listen to uh, I've beenlistening to some Sam Harris.
Actually, I'm going to get intomeditation, Okay Of some sort.
Okay Of some sort Okay.
He has the waking up app thatis the meditation app.

(09:12):
That's right, and recently I'vebeen getting them for a year.
I'm not officially signed up onthe app to access everything.

Dylan (09:24):
So you're like half pregnant.

Brad (09:27):
That's not a thing?
I don't think that's a thing.
It's not a thing.
No, I don't think so.

Dylan (09:33):
Okay.

Brad (09:34):
But they send you a little daily update, okay, and it's a
little 30 to 60 second blurbfrom him typically.

Dylan (09:41):
Hi, I'm Sam Harris.
Just take a moment and thenit's just a real quick when you
wake up one morning and say I'mreplaying the ben affleck
interview.
Oh god the.

Brad (09:55):
The ben affleck interview is very pertinent to the college
protest.

Dylan (09:58):
I don't even remember what episode we did that on, but
that one was it feels a littlethat way, doesn't?
It actually not, it is.
It is exactly that way is it sofancy ben affleck that we sorry
.
We cut that real fast becausewe had cocktails delivered to us
and so we had to take acocktail break yeah, we have
three ounces of dry gin, twoounces of lime juice and four

(10:19):
lime wedges.

Brad (10:20):
No, and ice.

Dylan (10:20):
Oh, that's, you, just read the gimlet recipe off the
rocks glass okay I don't knowwhat a gimlet is.

Brad (10:23):
That's fake gold rim isn read the gimlet recipe off the
rocks glass.

Dylan (10:26):
I don't know what a gimlet is.
That's fake gold rim.

Brad (10:28):
Isn't the gimlet like this part of a chicken that's a
giblet?
Is that a giblet, that's agiblet, or is that like their
taint?
That's your taint?
Kfc sells that.

Dylan (10:42):
So we think the Ben Affleck situation is a lot like
the current college situation.

Brad (10:45):
Yes.

Dylan (10:46):
Okay, talk me through your reason.

Brad (10:50):
I know I, I believe I wanted to bring this up Ooh,
that's tasty Months ago, becausethis has been going on since
October 7th with the wholeIsrael Palestine thing and there
is a bit of confusion over whois allegedly the good guy and

(11:18):
the bad guy in this sense.

Dylan (11:21):
I like that you use the word allegedly.
We're getting better at thispolitical correctness on this
podcast.

Brad (11:32):
So you have people calling for a ceasefire, right um which
there was one.
And then one side decided tokill a thousand people and take
hostages and rape women and killkids.
Okay, and uh, then thatceasefire stopped, because
that's not how ceasefires work.
And uh, you have one side thatis governed by a theocracy of

(12:01):
we're going to destroy anyonethat's not like us, especially
these people right next to us,and somehow I guess diplomacy
will work.
Has to right.
So this relates to the BenAffleck thing in the sense that
Sam Harris was talking aboutlike Islamists, so the true,

(12:24):
like jihadists, the wagers ofwars, and there's degrees to
this, so there's the people thatwill do it and people that can
be recruited to do it, and thenthere's a very large percentage

(12:45):
of people that will agree withthose people.
So in Palestine you have Hamasrunning the country.
Right News to me Hamas has likea 50-ish percent approval

(13:06):
rating among the populace ofPalestine across states like
this, there's an unusually largepercentage of people that agree
with.

(13:31):
So you have something likeOctober 7th happen, and while
the governing power may onlyhave 50% approval rating, an
attack like that gets somethinglike an 80% approval rating.
Attack like that gets somethinglike an 80% approval rating.
So that's not people that arewilling to negotiate peacefully,
no.
And when you see civiliansbeing killed by basically a

(13:56):
counterinsurgency, you know fromIsrael nobody's saying that
that's good?
Yeah, nobody it's not.
Nobody's saying that that'sgood?
Yeah, nobody it's not.
But neither is going intoanother country and and killing
a thousand noncombatants no.
So there, there's a moraldiscrepancy here between what

(14:20):
people think Israel is doing andwhat people think Palestine is
doing.
Like well, one side, you know,uh, hide their combatants under
schools and hospitals and takeforeign aid and and build
tunnels and and build militaryand buy things like that instead

(14:43):
, is not doing that to theirpeople so yes, this reminds me a
lot of um the hoa.

Dylan (14:54):
We need to defund the hoa here in uh old brookwood that
was okay, we, I have I haveneighbors gotta say I was are
just unwilling to negotiateright now.
Yeah, trying to combine thesecondos.
It's just not going to happen.

Brad (15:10):
It's not going to happen.

Dylan (15:11):
It's going to happen.

Brad (15:12):
There's going to be a hole in the wall.
It's probably not going tohappen.
No, no, no.

Dylan (15:18):
My construction advisor has written long paragraphs to
me advising me against it.
It's a a paragraph, it was liketwo, and when he takes the time
to write more than oneparagraph, you know he's serious
.

Brad (15:34):
Paragraphs.
Do not make an essay.

Dylan (15:36):
He will remain anonymous, but I would like to take time
to thank our sponsor, mrdcDistilling Company, right now
time to thank our sponsor, mrdcDistilling Company.

Brad (15:49):
right now it's uh, can't we just do it like what?
What's the?
What's the prison?
What's that big prison movie?

Dylan (15:57):
The Great.

Brad (15:58):
Escape no, no, no, no, no.
Alcatraz no, what's the mostfamous one?

Dylan (16:03):
Shawshank Redemption yes, thank you Listen?

Brad (16:06):
there's just a hole right behind this picture right here.
That's literally what my lawyertold me, and we just go through
it.

Dylan (16:12):
My lawyer's.
Like if you put a hole in thewall, nobody can go in, he goes.
Is it legit?
No, he goes.
But are you going to be introuble?

Brad (16:18):
No, and I'm like I love this legal advice.
Guess what's on the other side?
Another big picture that I own,hey, you remember how we did
the slider downstairs for thetaps.

Dylan (16:30):
Yeah, you know, I've only ever used that tap system once.
It was a world cup.
That's one more time.
Us first, croatia, no, englandversus croatia and england lost.
That was a long time ago.
It was a long time ago it wasprobably't a long time ago.
It was probably eight years ago, 2016,.

Brad (16:45):
I think how good am I.

Dylan (16:48):
No, yeah, 2018.
Nah, 18.
It would have been 18.
It had been 18, 22.
And then it'll be 26.
Yeah, 16 is when we did it,though I think we.
We bought this in 16, and thenyou did a lot of work.

Brad (17:05):
Um, we bought this in 16 and then you did a lot of work.
Yeah, I have pictures pop upfrom when I used to take
pictures from when I used tocare.
It's a good time.
Yeah, I don't care aboutanything anymore.

Dylan (17:13):
Not trying to be funny with situation, but it is that
whole.
Like you have neighbors thatare just, it is talking, it
seems like an impossibility.
When you talk about israel andpalestine, it's like this was a
really bad relocation at somepoint.

Brad (17:32):
Uh yeah, yeah, there's.
You can talk till you're bluein the face about you know the
history and and all of that.
But essentially one side thinksthat they're going to spend
eternity in paradise for doingdoing horrific.

(17:54):
Yeah, and the other sidedoesn't.
Yeah, and that's a hard battleto win yeah, so the other?

Dylan (18:01):
one is is you?
You create generational, andI'll use the term I was
listening to.
Do you know DJ Shipley?
He's ex DJ Shipley.

Brad (18:13):
That one.
Yeah, oh, that's Khaled, kukKhaled.

Dylan (18:16):
Kukli.
No, no, but he um ex SEAL TeamSix guy and he talks about we
would go and we would havemonths where we'd be after one
guy, one guy, one guy.
He's like that picture of thatguy, that docket of that guy
would be next to my computer andI would be typing off emails
and I would just see this guyover, like I'm that our mission,

(18:37):
my, my squadron's mission, isto go after this guy and we'd
get intelligence and to be likewe think we have him and then we
wouldn't.
And he goes after six, sevenmonths.
You finally are like we thinkwe have them and then we
wouldn't.
And he goes after six, sevenmonths.
You finally are like we havelegit, we're going on the
mission, we're going to go getthis guy, he goes.
We'd go raid the compound, wetake them out, and then all of a
sudden, three or four littlekids come out and are on top of

(18:58):
their dad or their uncle orwhoever it is.
Yeah, and they'd be wailing andhe's like, and then I would get
transported back to the UnitedStates and be like what would my
kids do if somebody come andraid?

Brad (19:09):
in my house.

Dylan (19:10):
And he's like and what you do is you've just created
the next generation that hashate.
Just like they see you.
They see the flag on your onyour uniform and they're like I
hate that country and so likethat's what these little
skirmishes do.
They create another generationof people that are like I
absolutely hate that other sidebecause this is what they took

(19:31):
from me.
Yeah, and that's what theselittle micro and you don't want
to say micro in a negative term,like minimizing it, but they
are micro skirmishes.
They're not grand wars.
These micro skirmishes do.
It creates the next generationof militant versus the other
side yeah, and it is neverending.

Brad (19:50):
Somebody I can't remember who got in trouble for saying
that.
Um, if that was during afghanIraq, where it was, I can't
remember.
If it was a political leader,it was one of ours.

Dylan (20:02):
Yeah.

Brad (20:04):
And something to the extent of like kill the entire
generation of blah, blah, blah,and that doesn't even work.

Dylan (20:15):
No, no it it cause there's always going to be
stories.

Brad (20:18):
History gets passed down, it can't there's always going to
be stories.

Dylan (20:19):
History gets passed down.

Brad (20:20):
It can't there's always going to be something to rally
around.
There's going to be there'sstill going to be a similar
entity, if not in the immediatelocation, in a surrounding
location or in a country thathas similar beliefs, and that's
going to start all over again ina new space.
What Harris talks about is soyou could say, like the main

(20:48):
tenant of Christianity is thatJesus died and arose from the
dead.
Right Like that's kind ofthat's kind of the thing.
And now there's there'sprobably a few sects of
Christianity that they're likeyeah, that's not like a legit,
like we don't think he reallycame back from the dead, you
know.
And he's like okay, so nowyou've changed this, like this

(21:12):
isn't Christianity anymore, it'sa different version of it, and
essentially he's like I guessmoderate or I guess you could
say, liberal Muslims.
Those are the voices that needto be heard right now, because

(21:33):
that's what you want.

Dylan (21:34):
You want to move away from the hard line, yeah, the
hard line.
So this, this or nothing.
And if you don't, you know uh,well, it's.

Brad (21:46):
you know, like what?
What is happening through Hamasthat Muhammad either didn't do
or wouldn't be proud of?
You know, I mean, that's kindof where he goes with it.
And you know, if, if you'remuslim and you don't believe
that, that then that's the viewthat needs to get pushed, so
that it does get more moderatedand you lose less of this.

(22:10):
You can't even say extremismbecause you're following, you're
following the book, that's it.
It would be the same withChristianity if everyone
followed verbatim what's in theBible and the laws from the Old
Testament.
Well, no, we can stone her,that's fine.

(22:31):
I'm just reading the book andfollowing the book, that's what.

Dylan (22:36):
I'm doing.
You played the game telephonegrowing up.
How often did you actually getall the way around the circle
Wait what telephone game did youplay?
Do you remember Somebody startwith a secret word at the
beginning, and then they'dwhisper it in their neighbor's
ear, and then it had to come allthe way back around the circle,
it was like, and then the lastperson had to say what the word

(22:58):
was, that's.
and then the last person that is, had to say what the word was.
That's not the game we playedin circle.
Were you playing blow and suck?
What suck and blow?
Is that the one from cluelesswhere, like you, start to make
it?

Brad (23:07):
out.
No, no pickup sticks oh likewhat are you doing?
Did you play?

Dylan (23:13):
jacks too, nope, no, no, don't lie to me, you look like
bounce, bounce the ball, let'sgo.
How many Jacks did we pick up?
Always picked up two Jacks, no,but it's that, the translations
, the, the different scrolls,the.
You know, you kind of gothrough time and you were
talking a game of millennia oftelephone, so you can't make it

(23:36):
with 13 kids.

Brad (23:39):
How are you gonna do it over the years, not saying it's
all wrong, but like no.
So christianity has hasdefinitely like toned down over
the years, right, and I miss theborgias man.

Dylan (23:49):
They had style and grace.
Okay, marble, they raided.
They raided the coliseum, tookthe marble, made their own
beautiful statues.
It was great.
Why wouldn't?
You, I, I don't know maybe justthe richest royal family in the
italy too.
I don't know all rightcoincidence, I think let's play
a quick game.
I I went to catholic school Ilove, I love it.

Brad (24:10):
That's not.
That's not that kind of game Idon't know I don't know what, I
don't know what kind of games.

Dylan (24:18):
Confession no.

Brad (24:19):
Library of Alexandria.

Dylan (24:23):
Okay, okay.

Brad (24:24):
We're playing a game Library of Alexandria.

Dylan (24:27):
What Is?

Brad (24:27):
it 4K Could have been in there.
What could have been in there?
That would just blow your mind.

Dylan (24:39):
Do you want my serious answer or my sarcastic answer?

Brad (24:41):
I want something hopefully entertaining.

Dylan (24:44):
That's all.
Am I going to tee it up for you, because I know you want to say
it?

Brad (24:51):
I don't have anything in particular.
Is it the A?

Dylan (24:53):
word that you always somehow bring it in Aliens, oh
no.

Brad (24:58):
No.

Dylan (24:58):
I did it this time, I saying like a really really good
, uh, like instapot recipe orsomething.

Brad (25:04):
Oh my god, yeah.
And then they burned that thingand we just went back to the
stone age.
What happens if they had like?

Dylan (25:10):
alexas, before that's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying justthis advanced civilization
random flood fire, everybodytalks about it, and then, woman
scorned, she just starts a firein the city.
And all the advancedcivilization.

Brad (25:23):
They found all of these texts and they're all in the
library and they're like we know.
We know that thesecivilizations existed 10 000
years ago.
Here's all the things.
This chicken, bacon, ranchinstapot recipe is fucking bomb.
We can't figure out how theyhad electricity yet, but they
had it and then gone, gone forages, oh god but really it just

(25:47):
comes back around, then you knowwell, that's um rick.

Dylan (25:53):
Uh, who's the big music producer ross?
No, no, no, ruben, I bought, Ibought, I've bought in the book
for a couple friends and I haveit for myself.
Um, it's rick rubin, rick rubin, yes, sorry, but the creative,
the creative act, the creativeway, is his book that he wrote.
But he talks about how youdon't own ideas.
They're in the universe andit's for you to actualize and

(26:14):
realize.
And and it's like how manytimes have you had an idea where
somebody else has that idea?
Haven't we talked about this?
We have, but it is that it's,it's a little bit of that, it is
, and I get so pissed when ithappens and you're like I think
I'm so fucking smart andoriginal, yeah.

Brad (26:26):
And then it comes back and it's like but he said this 300
years ago.

Dylan (26:31):
He's conceptualized something that people don't
normally process like oh my god,somebody else thought of it,
somebody else did this bubble.
It's like maybe he's right.
There is no true invention,there's only actual realization
and actualization of it it's,it's for someone to decide
they're going to take it tofruition and yeah, because
that's super cool and unique.
I mean that that just to methat means any infinite

(26:55):
possibilities for that.
That's a really exciting conceptto me for individuals which is
I don't need to be the smartest,I don't need to be the most
athletic, I don't need to be theyou know whatever it's, there
are things out there that I canactualize and I can and produce
on for the betterment ofhumanity and myself.
Remember we talked about thiswhere?

Brad (27:15):
what were we discussing, but it was a guy that probably
bullshit what were we discussing, but it was a guy that Probably
bullshit it was a guy thatessentially was developing apps
in like the 80s.
Do you remember this?
Oh, but there was no realsource for him to like put them
on.

Dylan (27:30):
Yeah, there's no internet , and so he had all of these
ideas, yeah.

Brad (27:35):
And then was way on to something else.
By the time he was doingsoftware as a service before
there was even a platform tohost it on, you know so by the
time the technology comes around, where his idea is actually
useful, he's on to somethingcompletely different, and it's
so.
Whoever came up with some ofthe first apps that actually got
patented and used?

Dylan (27:57):
that wasn't your idea mm-hmm.

Brad (27:59):
It was just an actualization of something that
was unable to happen earlier,mm-hmm, or that people were
unable to use earlier Nikola.
Tesla, all about wirelesscharging, yeah allegedly
allegedly him in him in Edisonlike my finger and power up my
car.

Dylan (28:19):
I'm team.
I'm team Tesla.
I'm team Tesla oh, he gotassassinated.
Mm-hmm, edison was kind of abitch.
The more you read about him,allegedly, the more you read
about Edison.
It's kind of your little bitch.
It's kind of like when you,when you grow up thinking like,
oh my god, this guy's great, andthen you read about Christopher
Columbus, you're like, oh no,we're not fans of this guy.
What'd he do?
I don't know.

Brad (28:41):
I'll let you read about that one.
Not good, you know, the onethat shocked me.
And then instantly I feel likein today's age we're not really
surprised by anything Balto JohnMuir.
Oh yeah, and it's yeah.
You get into some like kind ofcrazy situations there because

(29:03):
you come across people that in amajor way shape some form of
our lives or surroundings, orsomething like that, do you?

Dylan (29:14):
want to explain John Muir to people, because not
everyone's probably going to Doyou want to explain John Muir to
people, because not everyone'sprobably going to.

Brad (29:20):
So John Muir and Teddy Rosewell, essentially kind of
the grandfathers of the nationalpark system.

Dylan (29:29):
Yep We've talked about this in the first few episodes.
I think you, Shannon, and Italked about him A little bit
Because you were on the treesthing.

Brad (29:35):
I was on the trees thing and there's also a national
parks podcast that discussesthis a little bit, but given the
timeframe he was definitely notfor any Native Americans.

Dylan (29:51):
Get them out of here.
This is our land.

Brad (29:53):
And not only that, it was against the ways that they had
been treating the land forthousands of years.
And so it takes about twoseconds to realize that, oh, you
guys been here for 2 000 yearsand this place is beautiful.

Dylan (30:12):
You must have fucked it up but a little bit of
hardscaping right there is goingto go a long way.
We're going to be able to puton a.
We're going to be able to putit on a postage stamp.
We're going to put it on apostcard.
You're going to love it, trustme.
This limestone bridge, wherethe rock is not native.
You're going to love it, trustme.
We're going to ship it in fromthe Midwest.
It's going to be great, haveyou guys?

Brad (30:32):
heard of concrete, listen, listen, listen, concrete, over
all the roots.
Okay, this is we're gonnaprotect them.

Dylan (30:39):
This is like the guy that invented glue.

Brad (30:40):
We've talked about this before, like well, let's just
hate horses, hated horses horsesand we're gonna make glue it's.

Dylan (30:46):
We brought concrete to the national parks.
Trust me, you'll love iteveryone.
You guys don't know what you'retalking about hey, uh I.

Brad (30:54):
I was out in that fire pit where you were burning gimme
five last night night andfucking lost my boots in there,
sticky son of a bitch.
And thus Elmer's was born, butit goes back.
I mean, like with the mirrorthing.

(31:16):
They they instantly took awayfire from these national park
areas, you know, where fire hadbeen instrumental in keeping the
land as it is for thousands ofyears.

Dylan (31:29):
Everyone thinks of forest fires as terrible things we're
like.
No, actually fires are goodbecause it prevents overgrowth.
It's not what we do nowadaysand how we've directed water and
other things.

Brad (31:41):
We have major catastrophes happen, but it is a part of
nature where there's a there's aburning, there's carbon there,
you know, I've all everythingwith the day, but with the
introduction of that and thelack of fire, you now come into
a situation where, uh, take,like the giant Sequoias where
there used to be small, uh, youknow, like smaller burns, and

(32:06):
those giant trees are basicallydesigned in such a way to
withstand that.

Dylan (32:11):
Yeah.
And now it's hard, yeah, yeah.
And tall like they, you know itdoesn't get to our, it's got to
get through a thick bar.
Two hour drywall.

Brad (32:20):
We need, between you know, firewalls, actually no and now,
with the lack of clearing andthe amount of fuel that is
available, uh, that's I mean.
You have flames reachinghundreds of feet where they.
They can't withstand thatanymore.
They're not protected like that, they're protected down low.

Dylan (32:40):
Isn't that how you rate a bonfire, though, like your
buddy only gets flames to sixfeet, you get eight feet.
Like you built a better bonfire.
You know what amazes me, yeahpeople how that they're still
here it.
It does definitely seem likewe've been able to keep the
craps table going too long.
I haven't rolled the dice.

Brad (33:00):
I did see someone reasonably close to my house
pouring gasoline all over abrush pile.
Oh God.
And then?
It's been a moist spring,seemingly trying to light it
without realizing that the vaporis going to expand.

(33:22):
Is what is flammable, not theliquid.

Dylan (33:27):
Luckily for them.

Brad (33:28):
he was not able to find the vapor, so guys, how are?
We Slow burn liquid.
Okay, not gasoline, notgasoline.
I think I've watched.

Dylan (33:42):
I've watched oppenheimer since oh, I have not I've
watched oppenheimer since we'vewe've had our last one and to
your point of how are we stillhere?
How the fuck are we still here?
We invented the most deadlything in the world and we
released two and we stoppedthere.

(34:03):
How did we stop?

Brad (34:04):
Oh, we released more than two.

Dylan (34:06):
On people All right.

Brad (34:09):
Well, how, some how.

Dylan (34:11):
On large populations.
We are not what we callcontrolled people.
Well, there's been twoinstances that we are aware of
call a controlled people.

Brad (34:17):
Well, there's been two instances that we are aware of.
One would be the initialtesting of the atomic bomb where
they weren't entirely sure howit was going to play out.
What happens when you split anatom?

Dylan (34:29):
Well, that was the best part is the theory, and they're
like I don't know, let's pressthis button.
They're talking about thetheorists and they're like well,
we know it's possible, this iswhat's happening, this is how
it's going to go about.
But there's a non-zero chance.
Once the chain starts, it won'tstop, which means the entire
world blows up because the atomswill not stop splitting the

(34:52):
atoms around them and it'll justchain react all over the world.
So before they hit the button,they're just like I mean, it's
like 99.9 sure that we're notgonna blow the world up, but
like there's still 0.1 chance,like the math can't tell us it
won't happen.
What's the?
Uh?
How do you like?
That's some hubris.

(35:12):
That is some like we're smarterthan you, Don't worry about it,
we got it Shit.
Like you are speaking for theentire world right now.
You're not elected officials,you've been chosen.
Nobody knows, this programexists and we're making
decisions for the human race.

Brad (35:29):
Yeah, I mean, that's a and that's essentially what it
became, because that's whatnuclear war is now right now
like we now have the ability toannihilate.

Dylan (35:38):
Annihilate someone russia , by the way, just not, and by
we, 26 miles off the off thecoast of florida today well,
there was a.
We'll have to look this upsometime apparently the cia
knows there's no nuclear cargo.
How the fuck do you know that?

Brad (35:56):
It's by how low the van rides.

Dylan (35:58):
I think Is it like the barges on the Mississippi, you
know, like the payloads, yeah,yeah, yeah, they're up high,
they're down low.
What was?

Brad (36:03):
that one, mark Wahlberg, you know with the Mini Coopers,
like they know the Italian job.

Dylan (36:07):
Yeah, they know.

Brad (36:08):
Yeah.

Dylan (36:11):
It's easy.
I was actually thinking aboutthe Italian job today.
I was thinking about Seth Greenbeing super hacker, because I'm
in IT and everyone's like, ohman, how many hackers do you
know?
I'm like, do you understand howmany?

Brad (36:23):
hackers do you know Personally?
I got their names.

Dylan (36:27):
I don't want to talk about it, but hacking is not
what Hollywood makes it out tobe.

Brad (36:32):
Hacking is people sitting in front of a computer screen
going no, no, maybe, if I try,no Hacking is just like do we
want to release all of thesenames of guys that have had
affairs on this website?

Dylan (36:46):
Pretty much Ashley Madison.

Brad (36:50):
So that's what ransomware has pretty much found out so
that's what ransomware haspretty much found out and is um
we?
I feel like hacking is a lotmore about selling personal
information than anything else.

Dylan (37:02):
No, they'll give you your stuff back.

Brad (37:03):
They actually have really great helplines, like if you
they'll I don't mean likeidentity theft per se, I just
mean like, oh, here's, here's500 000 names and and
information we're going to giveit to.

Dylan (37:15):
So ransomware and hacking in general mostly targets
industries that are regulated bythe government, that aren't
allowed to release sensitiveinformation.

Brad (37:24):
Horse racing.

Dylan (37:26):
No, they're not going to fucking care, but they have the
most like HIPAA, finra, allthese organizations.
You can get fined heavy.
You can be found Orthodontist,yes, okay, yeah, orthodontist,
dentist, dentists andorthodontists probably have the
weakest IT footprint out ofanyone I ever work with, and

(37:47):
typically they're cheap.
Sorry if anyone's listening,but they go after people that
they know are up againstgovernment regulations and will
get sued, and so what they'll dois they'll say, you'll pay us.
And it's like, oh, fuck you, Ihave backups, take it all, I
don't care.
And now they're like, okay,well, we'll release your names
and you're going to have a bunchof lawsuits.
So like they kind of put youbetween a rock and a hard place

(38:09):
and they've, they've learnedthat like non-regulated
industries.
Or it's like, oh cool, you knowhow many t-shirt sizes brad
likes to buy from my shopifystore.

Brad (38:17):
Like what are you gonna?
What are you gonna do with that?
Yeah, and so now, what are yougonna do?
Look amazing, yeah, and goodluck.

Dylan (38:24):
So it's it, and I tell people, if anyone wants to find
your social security number,they can find out.

Brad (38:29):
Like your social security number isn't that unique to you
anymore yeah, just ask me, it'seight, five, six, two, four, six
, one, eight, one.
Did you just wait?
Can you bleep that out eight?

Dylan (38:39):
seven.
Don't forget to edit that.
Eight, six, seven, nine, three,oh five, what no, it wasn't
jesse's girl that's not the song.

Brad (38:48):
That's close okay so fucking barrage me with that 80s
.
So the the second one.
So atomic bomb was first one,the second one was, uh, the
hydron collider hydrogen.

Dylan (39:02):
Oh, it's cern, uh-huh yeah, where they're making dark
matter uh, where they thoughtthey might they buried it a
couple feet underground.

Brad (39:12):
Don't worry, it's like the frost line, you'll be fine uh,
water's not gonna freeze, you'llbe okay, I don't know I got.

Dylan (39:18):
I got some pretty big concerns about do you think the
donner party was worried aboutfrost line?

Brad (39:23):
they followed the wrong person.
They you know.

Dylan (39:27):
Leadership matters, leadership does matter, doesn't
it?
Yes, you imagine something.
You imagine the daughter.
Sometimes you follow the guythat gets Shit.
Does matter, doesn't it?
Yes, you imagine.
You imagine the Donner party.

Brad (39:36):
Sometimes you follow the guy that gets lost and will do
whatever it takes to survive.

Dylan (39:40):
The Donner party has a building inspector and they're
like oh, you're not below thefrost line, we're not going to
pass this building.
Talk about alternate reality.

Brad (39:50):
That is a very wild story.
That's a wild story.
We should do an episode on thatit's not going to be as good as
last podcast on the left.

Dylan (39:58):
Oh, they did do one, they did a deep dive on that, our
friend Matt.
The wedding we're going totomorrow, Not you, me, the
greater we meaning me.
I don't have friends and mymultiple personalities are
heading to see Matt tomorrow.
He's a massive Donner Party fan.
Well, it is Colorado.
No, were they in Utah, or werethey in Colorado?

Brad (40:19):
I think they were in.

Dylan (40:20):
Colorado?
I don't remember.
They're in that 1994 video gamecalled the Oregon Trail, who
the Donner Party Were they no.

Brad (40:29):
Shut up God.
You can't cross the KansasRiver.
Eight't cross.
You can't cross the.

Dylan (40:33):
Kansas river Eight bit system.

Brad (40:36):
You got to afford it.
I have a Chevy.
No, that's not what it means.
Donner party of six.

Dylan (40:47):
Right.
Well, if they're going throughKansas no, I'm thinking about
Nebraska.
I'm thinking about um Kansas.
No, I'm thinking about Nebraska.
I'm thinking about what's thefast food chain that they do
like the Hot Pockets, butthey're not Hot Pockets.
Runza Do you think that theDonner Party got Runza on the
way?
Is that like diarrhea?
It will run through you.
The Runza will run through you.

(41:08):
They're like Cornish Pasties.
Is that what the?
The official?

Brad (41:16):
Sierra Nevada.
They're in this year in Nevada.
Oh completely wrong side of thecountry Jesus, sorry, not
really.
Just keep going West.

Dylan (41:23):
Oh sorry On the other side, yeah, yeah, sorry.

Brad (41:26):
Cause they were going.
Yeah, yeah.

Dylan (41:27):
They, uh.
So they were on their way toCali and they got stuck.

Brad (41:31):
Yeah, I mean, it turns out that how many were left at the
end?

Dylan (41:38):
How many started?

Brad (41:40):
and how many were left.
So you know what the bad partwas about it, right?

Dylan (41:44):
They tagged the body so you didn't eat your own family
member.
Uh no, I don't think so thatthat that's what they did.
They're like oh, your dad died,so we're going to tag him with
your last name so we know thatyou don't get his meat to
survive.

Brad (42:00):
I would have to go back and read it, but I believe
there's two different things.
So there's the cannibalism andthe, so it's called something
different.
So when you kill somebody andeat them, it's cann different
things.
So there's there's thecannibalism and the, so it's
called something different.
So when you kill somebody andeat them, it's cannibalism, and
if they're just dead and youfind them and you eat them, it's
it's called something different.

(42:21):
What's?

Dylan (42:22):
it called when you eat a human.
Do you imagine what my dinner?
Do you imagine what list I'mgoing on right now?
My Google what?

Brad (42:35):
Imagine what list I'm going on right now on my Google.
What's it called Dinner, anddon't kill them?
I have CAPTCHA pop up when Iwant to look at a bicycle.
So the fact that I look upDonner cannibalism and it
doesn't stop me leads me tobelieve that my safety devices
are not working properly.
Oh, anthropophagy,anthropophagy, Anthropophagy,
yeah, that's when you just eatsomeone that's already dead Is

(42:56):
eating human flesh withoutkilling anyone.

Dylan (42:58):
Jesus man.

Brad (43:00):
Like in, it's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
You never saw that episode.

Dylan (43:05):
What Rum?

Brad (43:06):
ham.
No, no, frank gives them.
Who does?
He give Charlie and Dee and hesays it's human flesh.
Yeah, and then they get a tastefor it.
Oh that's right, and they'retrying to figure out how to get
more and they're they're goingthrough all these different ways
and they're like going to themorgue and they're doing all
this stuff and then in the endit's just Frank being like as

(43:29):
raccoon meat you crazies.
It's lousy with parasites, don'teat raccoon meat we have, and
if you do eat it in the South,where they know how to cook it.

Dylan (43:47):
We have covered the gambit so far, man.
I guess we had a lot of pent-upenergy.
I guess I needed this Good foryou.

Brad (43:55):
You want to talk about sports?
No, no, no, no, I'm retiring.
Why, why no?
Well, here's a couple of ideas.
Mountain biking is fun.

Dylan (44:15):
Professional mountain biker.
Okay, no, no, no, no, you'reold.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Brad (44:20):
Okay, not professional mountain biking.

Dylan (44:21):
Okay.
Just riding a bike outside forthe rest of your life.

Brad (44:25):
No, Not forever, just sometimes for fun.

Dylan (44:28):
Yeah, are you going to get an?

Brad (44:29):
e-bike no, okay, no, just making sure.

Dylan (44:34):
Do you?

Brad (44:35):
cop.
What are we giving up?
Well, the world needs pitchtakers too.
Yeah, some days I want to justdo that, yeah, yeah.
What are we giving up to dothings that we think we want to
do when there's other thingsthat we probably would enjoy

(44:56):
doing more?
And what do you think you?

Dylan (44:57):
want to do Like what I'm talking recreationally, not
professionally.
Okay, what do you do?
Recreation, recreation.
Well, in terms of that youthink you want to do versus what
you actually want to, do interms of our youth?
Okay.

Brad (45:12):
Uh, we, we subscribe to a set of specific sports that are
available to us, so noteverybody such as just baseball
basketball, soccer footballthose kind of things.
Those are the programsavailable and those are the
programs that you do.
And then you have uh offshootswhere people are like you.
You know what I don't like this?

(45:33):
I'm gonna play lacrosse.

Dylan (45:34):
Yeah.

Brad (45:35):
Yeah, okay, cool.

Dylan (45:36):
And then you have further offshoots where, or they're
like.

Brad (45:39):
I'm going to get into, you know, bmx racing.
I'm going to get into mountainbike racing.
I'm going to get into rockclimbing.

Dylan (45:46):
Yeah.

Brad (45:58):
And you kind of keep pushing farther it's.
You know, there's probablystill some issues, but on a much
smaller scale, because reallyit's just fucking fun to do and
you don't need anybody else todo it.

Dylan (46:02):
So you're talking about isolating and compounding the
shit in your head I love it.

Brad (46:07):
And also, this is totally you, man, I get this.
I know where we're going.

Dylan (46:10):
Enjoying just this is being moody and broody by myself
in the outdoors, moodysnowboarding.
Skiing is not about skiing.
For me, skiing is about operas,it's about champagne yes,
drinking oysters it's a couplemoguls, a little bit of trees.
It just happens that I'm reallygood at those.
So everyone's like, oh, dylan.
And I'm like, don't worry aboutit, I'm ready for the champagne

(46:31):
and the oysters yeah, but I saw, I saw that dude get buried by
snow and I that's what makes itfun.

Brad (46:36):
I don't, I don't know that that's fun.
Buried alive is not fun.

Dylan (46:40):
I don't think I'm going to be having fun if it happens
to me, but like it makes it alittle bit.

Brad (46:44):
Just don't kill me to eat me.
Wait till I'm dead.
Okay, Just do Anthropop.
Whatever Anthropomorphizationit's not anthropomorphization.
Wait until you can imagine thatI'm some kind of animal and
then you can eat meAnthropophagy, isn't that what
that is?

Dylan (47:01):
Anthropophagy.

Brad (47:02):
Yeah, yeah.

Dylan (47:02):
Anthropophagy.
I won't do it, so you just wantto be so.
What you're saying is is islike kids, just go be in your
own echo chamber, be moody andbroody by yourself out in the no
no, no, no no, I'm saying whatabout dual, not what about like

(47:24):
downhill racing, where you'redoing like adrenaline?
Dumps oh, not adrenaline dumps,that's an adrenaline dump.
You know, you guys are doinglike ski hit, like downhill,
where you guys are racing dualtracks against each other for
time trials.

Brad (47:39):
Okay, well, let's cross country racing.
Let's simplify it.

Dylan (47:43):
Okay, let's talk about it .

Brad (47:46):
Let's take parents out of the equation.

Dylan (47:49):
Home alone Lost in New York City or Number one back at
his house.
How fun was that?
Um, he had stover's meals threesquared, three square stover
meals a day, and he was.

Brad (48:03):
It was solid, he was fine, he got to use his creativity,
you know he figured michaeljordan on a train set.

Dylan (48:09):
He figured out what worked and what didn't work it's
true.

Brad (48:12):
Uh, all within a matter of days, and I like this.

Dylan (48:16):
I like where this is going.
This is like some 300 shitwhere you throw out the like
nine-year-old in the wildernessto kill a wolf and if he doesn't
come back, he wasn't meant tobe king.

Brad (48:24):
Not that far I don't, uh, I mean some people say we have a
population problem, but youknow, other people say we need
more kids.
So I could see both sides ofthat debate, I suppose.
But I mean definitely lessorganization.

(48:45):
Yeah, there's a certain levelthere's a certain level of there
.
It is what that's.
I'm the problem.
You are.
Yeah, what would you do?
I'm trying to organize that youare the problem.

Dylan (48:58):
If you give everyone everything, then how are they
going to come up to their ownconclusions?

Brad (49:02):
all right, I quit you're not quitting?

Dylan (49:04):
yep, well, you should absolutely quit sports with kids
involved, because you'refucking terrible.
I quit, okay, good, I quit.

Brad (49:12):
all right, everyone guess what.
Guess what Brad quits, guesswhat.
Go figure it out.
Go figure it out.
Go kick a ball around, go throwa ball around, go find a
fucking baseball field.

Dylan (49:19):
I have a friend and it was actually this is funny, this
is coming up.
He was laughing about how Iforget how we got on this
subject.
It was someone was upsetbecause they felt like they
weren't getting enough attentionor something me no.
And then he brought up the fact.
He's like I remember my parentsdropping me.

(49:41):
Oh, I know how it was and we'renot gonna get into that, but I
remember my parents dropping meoff at baseball practice and
going to the circle tap for ribsand beers with their friends
duh, and like I'm after baseballby myself, like where the fuck
is mom and dad?
I'm crying, no cell phones backthen.
I don't know how to getanywhere.

(50:03):
And then they're like why, youknew how to get to me.
I'm at the circle tap likewhat's going on?

Brad (50:06):
hey, hey, I'm at the tap, I'm at the circle tap.
You know where the circle tapis and I think what happened
right on that busy street, wehad a.
We had a buddy with an ex-wifethat wasn't happy that he I'm at
the tap, I'm at the circle tap.

Dylan (50:12):
You know where the circle tap is and I think what
happened was it's right on thatbusy street we had a buddy with
an ex-wife that wasn't happythat he dropped his kid off at
baseball practice and he went tothe bar to go have a beer
instead of watching his kidpractice baseball.
And it's like you know what thecoach doesn't want parents
there.
It's actually better for thekid to not have parental

(50:36):
supervision around.

Brad (50:36):
Not saying there's not some other issues, but we're not
going to get into thatUnderlying that.
Yeah, I'm totally fine withpeople dropping their kids off,
just make sure your kid actuallywants to be there.

Dylan (50:42):
Yeah, don't do babysitting yeah.

Brad (50:44):
Yeah, yeah, and then go have fun.

Dylan (50:47):
Yeah, go have some you time there is a certain level of
If you're you, you can see,friend, I have friends and I you
can see, friends, that parentsare super involved and there's a
level of unknowing ortrepidation going into unknown

(51:07):
situations.
And then you can see, friends,that parents were a little less
involved and it's that wholewell, we just figured it out,
we'll just figure it out thing.
It's that whole, well, we justfigured it out, we'll just
figure it out thing.
There is a and, not saying it'sneglect, not saying it's overly
cuddly, it's just you can seethat paradigm, you know where
there's that kind of shift.

Brad (51:28):
What would you call the small regions of the Nova Scotia
area, the Netherland areas?
Is that where all the gold'sburied?
What gold?

Dylan (51:41):
Newfoundland.
Newfoundland new finland,newfoundland.
It's new finland now, but itwas new, like we newly found, we
new found this land.
Yeah, that was fucking realoriginal good job guys well the.
I mean, think about it, dudenew every, every every oh, this
is clark's island.
So there's york and britain andnow there's new york.
Everything was new.
They just put new.
They named everything after theold towns that they're from and

(52:02):
they just put new in front ofit.

Brad (52:03):
Oh, this is the New York, this is the new.
What do they collectively callthat?
I don't know man, it's all theit's on the East Coast?

Dylan (52:13):
I don't know.

Brad (52:14):
But it's like the group of them is called something Right?

Dylan (52:17):
Arcaplejio.

Brad (52:18):
No.

Dylan (52:18):
Okay.

Brad (52:28):
Anyways, there's some areas there where they still
take kids out into the woods andjust drop them off and then
make them find their way backhome.
So I guess that's a middleground.
How old are they?
I think they're old enough towalk.
They're called Atlanticprovinces.
That's not what I was thinking.

Dylan (52:43):
I think you're wrong.
They hold 3.3% of the Houseseats in the Parliament of
Canada.
That's wild for a small littleplace like that.
I feel like they should holdlike 0.1%, let's say 8.

Brad (52:56):
8 years old.
You just gotta kind of findyour way back like a carrier
pigeon.
Yes, yeah, that's what.
That's what it is, it's a bunchof dogs newfoundland.
Yeah, yeah, they're goodswimmers, nice shaggy coat,
lifeguards actually was that?

Dylan (53:13):
uh, what's her?
What's the maggie?
Maggie's the name from peterpan, the the big um the dog no,
the dog that like is the nannyno never.
The original peter pan neversaw that when you, when you
never want yes, don't, don't dothis, don't play this game where
you're like oh, I didn't watchit I don't.

Brad (53:33):
I don't watch peter pan is peter a.

Dylan (53:36):
He is but the person that played the female.
It was a female actress thatplayed Peter Pan in the live,
the original live action.

Brad (53:47):
See, now you know how I was confused, you're an idiot.
I'm just saying Peter seemslike a ostensibly boy's name,
but yeah, there she was.
So I don't know, man.
I mean, it was an imaginaryland, so you know, be whatever
you want to be.
I think it was progressive.

Dylan (54:05):
No, oh, nana, it wasn't Maggie, it was Nana, sorry oh
that's a St Bernard is StBernard.
Yeah, just nice.

Brad (54:14):
Even with the maid outfit on I could tell that was a St
Bernard Kind of weird Wow.

Dylan (54:18):
It's almost like you know how to look through the mirror.

Brad (54:22):
But yeah, I think just dropping them off in the woods
is fine.
They don't have to go upagainst like the big bad wolf.

Dylan (54:27):
It is an island.

Brad (54:29):
Of course.

Dylan (54:29):
What natural predators do they have on the island?
It's not going to be natural,it's going to be brought in.

Brad (54:34):
Well, tasmanian tiger allegedly was on an island,
really.

Dylan (54:42):
How the fuck do they get there?

Brad (54:46):
Probably because they weren't always islands.
Be my guess, pangea man Alsosome rich white asshole,
probably brought a bunch ofanimals, noah.

Dylan (54:59):
Goddamn Mark.

Brad (55:04):
It's always you rich guys and your boats and your animals.

Dylan (55:09):
But I mean, I was ever found out that Noah was actually
like a Jeffrey Epstein stylecharacter.
That was like shit, I gotta getout of here, I gotta get on my
boat and get out of here.
I don't think that's true.
I don't think that's true.
He just happened to have apetting zoo exhibit.

Brad (55:26):
I do think we need to get more towards the idea that
nobody in the Bible was white.

Dylan (55:34):
Really.
Yeah, I'm in, there was adiversity.
It's funny you say this becauseI remember being in fifth grade
and like we had our religionbooks at lord's and it was like
you know, a history book, mathbook, religion book.
I'm like, okay, this is this isup there.

Brad (55:48):
I see people post on facebook and they're, but there
was a diversity section of likeafrica thinks jesus looks like
this.

Dylan (55:57):
Yes, chinese people think you know, asia thinks people
look like this.
Or jesus looks like this.
Yes, chinese people think youknow Asia thinks people look
like this.
Or Jesus looks like this.
And then it's like it just goesthrough the different
variations of all the Biblecharacters and what their
interpretation across everycountry is, and I was like, huh,
can we just think?

Brad (56:11):
geographically, that Jesus probably wasn't like Japanese.

Dylan (56:19):
I think, I don't think you're being very inclusive
right now.

Brad (56:22):
I mean, I don't know all the modes of transportation back
then, but Mongolians had agreat, great system.

Dylan (56:29):
They're moving a lot of people.
Sorry, Genghis.

Brad (56:33):
Khan, I think you meant making a bunch of people Making
and moving and killing, andkilling.
What was it?
Gangas con, he altered thecarbon footprint.
Yeah, yeah, dude, it was unreal.
Yes, they killed so many people, dude, it was unreal.
I mean he made a bunch ofpeople.
Yeah, he helped out.

(56:55):
Yeah, yeah, like he helped out.
It was like concubines.

Dylan (56:58):
Could we call it carbon neutral?

Brad (57:00):
uh, I don't think it was neutral no, neutral would net
negative.

Dylan (57:03):
You think we're net negative.
No positive, no net positive.

Brad (57:07):
No, net positive.
Yeah, he created more than hekilled, definitely released some
carbon, I think I think theyused lambskin condoms back then
allegedly okay, wait, no, no, no, no.
I, if I had to bet, I would betthat he wasn't uh a kind man

(57:32):
into that.

Dylan (57:33):
Oh be, my guess.
Not about protection.
No, he had his bodyguardsoutside for that reason.

Brad (57:39):
Yes, good yeah.

Dylan (57:40):
Okay.

Brad (57:41):
He had one thing on his mind.

Dylan (57:44):
Real estate Conquering Rome.

Brad (57:45):
Yeah.

Dylan (57:46):
Okay, real estate Mm-hmm.
No, it was Alexandria.
I forget.
I don't remember the timeline.
He took it all.

Brad (57:53):
That's fine.

Dylan (57:58):
He took it all, but he was before alexandria alexandria
went into the mongol empire, Ithink anyways yeah, let's go
where are you going?

Brad (58:02):
I like where you're heading people posting on
facebook and uh like, how come?
How come, whenever you guyspost on facebook, all your
jesuses look like jared leto?

Dylan (58:13):
jared leto has a cult man we've talked about.

Brad (58:16):
Yeah, I know this, I know this.
Um, I don't know, I don't knowabout that what I just I don't
think you think what I don'tthink that was.
I don't think that was probablyjesus's style what jared leto,
I want it.

Dylan (58:36):
You see, now that say that I'm actually a little upset
because I want my Jesus wearinga pair of aviators just flowing
in Croatia.

Brad (58:45):
No, no, he's more a man of the people.

Dylan (58:50):
Yeah, like Italian, like eating, eating like just carbs,
like the rest of us, not Croatia.

Brad (59:01):
Um man of the times.

Dylan (59:04):
Overweight Swiss Overweight.

Brad (59:06):
Jesus Overweight, jesus, a man of the times, you gotta
keep up with it.

Dylan (59:14):
I'm looking at 30 seconds of the Mars songs right now.

Brad (59:18):
Hey, everybody has a following.
Even we have seven peoplelistening to this.
Oh my god.

Dylan (59:29):
Here's Jared Leto, here's our Jesus.
We're totally getting copyright.
This is something Brad wouldsing in a karaoke bar back in
the day.
Back in the day now.
His wife doesn't let him out.

Brad (59:48):
I'm kidding.

Dylan (59:49):
Shannon, I'm kidding Shannon, I'm here.
I'm kidding Shannon, I'll cutyou, she will.
She'll come over here and cutme in my sleep.
Until then, I'll fucking killyou, no she wouldn't, do that.

Brad (01:00:00):
But uh, some night, when you're spending the the night in
your other condo, she willcreep through that little hole
in the wall our great escape isthe great escape tunnel yeah,
okay, let's end on this.
Okay, if you had to pick aposter to cover your escape

(01:00:20):
route, what poster would it be?

Dylan (01:00:26):
I feel like this is life or death.

Brad (01:00:29):
I got to think about this because I don't have one right
off hand.

Dylan (01:00:31):
Okay, you go.

Brad (01:00:44):
Albert.

Dylan (01:00:46):
Einstein.
I have an Albert Einstein here.
Do you yeah when?
I think it's downstairs.

Brad (01:00:51):
I'll go find it.

Dylan (01:00:53):
I don't know why Really You're going with.

Brad (01:00:54):
Albert, yeah, you know why .

Dylan (01:00:58):
Why Because?
It's all relative, bro, it's.
You're going with Albert.
Yeah, you know why why?
Because it's all relative, bro,it's all relative.
You fucking dumbass theoriginal.
I was going to say because it'sout of this world.
I'm going, dick Nixon, doingthe double peace sign on the way
in the Marine One, as he's onhis way out from Resonation.
I'm not a crook.

Brad (01:01:16):
Yep, I get it well, brad, I'm gonna think about this and
come back with a better one, allright.

Dylan (01:01:22):
Well, I appreciate this.
I needed this.
It's been a while and, uh, yeah, a little stressful since we've
done our last podcast.
Life's been a little stressful,that's okay yes, but this is
these little things that get megoing.
I do have thanks to Shannon.

Brad (01:01:37):
She's been doing some new research through work,
counseling and all that kind ofbusiness.
Yeah, do, have some good stuffcoming up, you do.
Yeah, oh, like stressinoculations and how to, you

(01:01:58):
know, stay alive while drowningand.

Dylan (01:02:03):
I feel like you're being sarcastic right now.

Brad (01:02:06):
I mean it's kind of like it's metaphorical.

Dylan (01:02:08):
Okay, yeah, yeah.

Brad (01:02:10):
Um conflict, conflict resolutions Just keep swimming,
swimming.
But then Ellen got canceled, sowe can't use that comment
anymore.

Dylan (01:02:19):
Yeah, but Dory didn't get canceled the clownfish did, did
he?

Brad (01:02:23):
No?
No, okay, richard Dreyfuss, Idon't remember.
Is that who it was?
I don't know who the clownfishwas, you know, his most famous
movie.
What Don't say Jaws has to dowith aliens, aliens movie.
What don't say jaws has to dowith aliens, aliens what uh,

(01:02:44):
predator.

Dylan (01:02:44):
No, richard dreyfus wasn't in predator.
That would have been a reallygreat movie.
Yeah, all right, we're gonnaend it there, you dumb ass.
I love you, buddy, we'll talkto you soon.
Bye, you're still here it'sover go home, it's over.

Brad (01:03:00):
Go home Go.