December 29, 2025 • 41 mins
If your days feel loud, scattered, and oddly fragile, this conversation hands you a calmer operating system. We start by redefining “sharpness” as the quiet power of preparedness: those small, boring habits that stack into confidence when things get messy. Think kitchens at peak service—labels aligned, green tape cut with scissors, everything in its place so execution can be fast, clean, and adaptable.
We share what’s actually working: non‑negotiables that anchor a day, block time that protects creative flow, and morning routines that trade panic for presence. You’ll hear how a simple kit mindset—dialed toolboxes, cable pouches, staple deliveries, smart switches—closes loops and shrinks mental load. This isn’t minimalism theater; it’s practical friction‑reduction that makes the hard parts of work feel lighter. We also get honest about the line between precision and perfectionism, and how to build systems that bend instead of snap when a socket goes missing or a job turns sideways.
From planning worst‑case scenarios to leaving space for serendipity on trips, we thread a single idea: do the work before so you can enjoy the freedom later. Set three priorities, automate the repeatables, outsource the energy drains, and iterate in public rather than waiting for perfect. Life is finite, which makes preparation a kindness—not a cage. If you’re ready to feel clear instead of busy, start with one loop you can close tonight and one hour you’ll protect tomorrow.
If this resonated, follow the show, share it with a friend who’s drowning in “busy,” and leave a quick review to help others find us. Your next clear day starts now.
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Dylan (00:00):
This is the Terribly Unoblivious Podcast.
Ferris (00:03):
Yep.
I said it before and I'll sayit again.
Life moves pretty fast.
You don't stop and look aroundonce in a while.
You could miss it.
Dylan (00:20):
Shit.
Oh, there it goes.
I just hit the button anddidn't do anything.
That's something.
But wow.
We're doing it for we're doingit live.
We're doing it for real.
We have nothing planned.
We haven't even done ourtraditional banter before the
episode where we cut each otheroff and say save it for the
episode.
Or we talk about the so benignthat it just I think we
intentionally stay boringpre-episode just to get angry at
(00:42):
each other so we can there's nothere's no anger.
There's no crying in baseball.
That's we actually that's whatwe should get as a soundbite.
No crying in baseball.
Brad (00:50):
There's no crying in baseball.
Yeah.
We're gonna do a short.
This is gonna be a short one.
Blitzgrieg.
Dylan (00:56):
That's the we're gonna call it the Schlieffen plan.
That's the goal.
Actually, yeah, a AI that namesour episodes.
Please make sure you call thisepisode the Schlieffen plan.
I don't think that's gonnaattract the right style
customer.
Nobody there may be one personin our audience knows what the
Schlieffen plan is.
Brad (01:13):
They didn't say shit about you.
History buffs coming on here.
Oh you're not gonna get anyhistory on here today.
No, it's not gonna happen.
No.
They didn't say shit aboutWorld War II.
Dylan (01:26):
Uh no, Schlieffen Plan was World War I.
Oh, was it?
Yeah, that was uh the that wasthe original um that's the
original plan.
Brad (01:33):
From General Plan.
Blueprint from Rageddon.
The guy's name was GeneralPlan.
I think so.
And the the idea name wasSchlieffen.
Yeah.
Okay.
Last episode we started on uhsome some good topics, and then
you went on a Kyrgyzstanstraight downhill ski run.
Dylan (01:49):
Yeah.
Still there, by the way.
Still there.
Brad (01:51):
All I get are Kyrgyzstan reels.
Doesn't it look great though?
It looks amazing.
That's it's wild country outthere.
Yeah, for sure.
But that's not what we're gonnatalk about today.
What are we gonna talk abouttoday?
I want to talk about sharpnessand how there's a lack thereof
in our both our brains rightnow.
Yeah, it's just completely.
I think it's something that wealways uh strive for.
Ferris (02:12):
But did you die?
Brad (02:13):
Haven't died, haven't done much of living either lately.
Why not?
On break.
We're on break.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which is okay, but we didfinish the what kind of I mean,
I I feel like I always thinkabout this, especially coming up
on the new year and the youknow, reset and and all that,
and time to get sharp down tobusiness and brass tax tidy
(02:35):
things up for the for the nextyear.
And I did actually keep my newyear's goal in mind all year.
Okay.
Although not in effect.
So you were consciously awareof the lack thereof.
I was consciously aware of myfailure to do so.
That's awesome.
Dylan (02:53):
Yeah.
How'd that make you feel?
Brad (02:55):
Uh I mean, being aware is that's true.
Right?
That's true.
That's true.
So now it's now it's time tosolve the problem.
Dylan (03:03):
But we how are we defining sharpness first for the
audience?
Brad (03:06):
Well, so let me start.
We me and Shannon finished upthe bear.
So the final the final season.
I need to watch that.
But there are there are certainthings in there, and you can
speak to this because youprobably remember it a little
bit better than I do.
But it it really started whenuh Richie goes to Ever and does
the training there.
He goes, goes at a restaurantand to Copenhagen?
No, no, no.
(03:26):
This is the one that's oh thereally fine one in Chicago.
Dylan (03:30):
Sorry, I sorry, Richie goes to yes, Ever.
Yep.
And he learns how to learn howto clean the most basic
silverware, but it starts at thebottom.
Brad (03:37):
Yeah.
Yeah.
He learns how to be realfucking precise about
everything.
And and so part of it waspolishing, but it it leads to
everything else.
Uh the other thing in the otherthing that I think about is the
green tape, right?
They don't just rip it, theycut it.
Right.
So they have tape that uhlabels everything, so all the
(03:58):
food items, the canister fooditem items and then when the
date on it was or the mixes orwhatever they're doing for the
day, and then the the green tapegoes on there and it's not just
ripped off the roll, it isscissored so that everything is
clean and precise, and that goestowards bottom up, right?
Like everything for a purpose,yes, kind of deal.
(04:19):
Um so how how do I startincorporating more of that into
my life without becoming OCDbananas?
Because on the flip side of myso-called life, uh I've seen
some TikToks on this guy, Ican't remember that his account,
but he basically has a three orfour car garage that he turned
(04:39):
into a detailing.
He's got a couple like reallynice Porsches that are in there
and like a Bronco and somethingelse.
But his mechanics setup isbonkers organized.
Yeah.
Like it's so organized it makesme uncomfortable because it's
one of those things where it'slike, well, what happens if you
ever lose this one socket?
But are you gonna lose yourmind?
(05:00):
Like, I don't want to be thatthat rigid, yeah.
Dylan (05:03):
Where like that's the problem, like that would throw
you off because people buildthese systems, and I'm not just
saying that are so rigid thatthere's no flexibility that
they'll break the moment there'sa little bit of pressure
applied.
Brad (05:14):
So they're fine until they break.
Yeah, and then if that like,oh, I don't have that one
socket, that's gonna drive meinsane.
Like, okay.
Dylan (05:20):
I think the kitchen is probably the best analogy going
back to the bear and uh everwith Richie.
Is they and so you gotta thinkabout in terms of your life, a
little bit of breaking your lifeinto prep and then actually
living, if that makes sense.
You know, obviously we'reliving every day, but it's and
this is the fun part withpodcasts and uh social media and
(05:41):
digital media and all thesedifferent outlets, and all these
different people have differentmethods and methodologies, and
it it it it goes back to alittle bit of Jocko's uh
discipline equals freedom, whichis yeah, when you have
downtime, what can you be doing?
And it's not that you alwayshave to be like chaotically or
so aggressively in the must beprepping, must be prepping, must
be prepping.
Right.
But it's getting your basicsdone so that when you do have
(06:03):
that Sunday afternoon off, ifyou take that Sunday noon Sunday
afternoon off and you couldstill go into the office on
Monday morning and not feelchaotic, then you did what you
needed to do during the prepareit's prepared, yeah.
You prepared for it, and that'sthe kitchen.
They come in so early, they'reprepping all day.
They're the neat, the organizedlabels, and they do that
because when shit hits the fan,they know where everything's at
(06:26):
so that they can execute becauseeventually something will
happen.
They control as much of theirenvironment as possible, right?
And then the chaos of servicecomes, and then they'll deal
with it.
But they know going into thatservice, they did what they
could do.
And so it's a little bit aboutthat in life of how do you how
do you keep your body asprepared or how do you keep your
life as prepared as possiblewithout going so OCD rigidness
(06:48):
where when one thing falls outof line, because you've seen
that where and I it happens tome all the time.
I I have this thing and my mystaff laughs at me because
between 11 and 12 30 in theafternoon or 11 30 in the
morning, 12 30 in the afternoon,I go for a run, one hour run.
Don't does not matter.
It is drop whatever I'm doingand I go and I tell people
because if I don't make thattime for myself and I make the
(07:10):
one, the two, three days in arow excuse of well, work's
really important, this and this,I I'll just I'll stop doing it,
I'll fall out of the habit.
And so um, I that's my onething a day that no matter what,
I don't care if the office ison fire, clients are down.
I mean, I'll sit there and I'llorganize what's happening and
I'll you know set the game plan,but I'm not a day-to-day guy.
I have guys that are in thethick of it, and it's okay,
(07:33):
we've done what we could, I'vedone what I could do.
I trust you guys to go nowfigure this out and keep me in
the loop, but I'm gonna go for arun now because me sitting here
just watching you guys workisn't gonna help anything.
Brad (07:42):
I I think I was thinking about this today on my way in
that the You have to make sometime for yourself, no matter
what.
Well, the freedom, the freedomof my life is what can kill me.
Dylan (07:53):
I think Black Rifle Coffee just did a special on
that with Andy Stumpf, which wassome I think the title of it
was something along of Life GetsHard When Nobody's Telling You
What to Do.
Yeah.
It was basically like Andygetting out of the military and
then going and having all thesechoices because he was such a
talented guy and skydiving,CrossFit, flying, all the and
it's I haven't watched yet, butI think the premise is like
(08:14):
trying to figure out what to dowhen nobody's telling you what
to do is really hard.
Brad (08:17):
But then I thought that sometimes I just like I'm on
break, have some time, and youwant to spend time with your
family, and as the uh the ADHDhappens, you're like, I got I
got a free day, I can doanything I want to, which
usually evolves into crippled,crippling nothingness, you know.
And so I I think trying tobuild uh build a schedule that
(08:41):
yes, there's freedom, but likebuild in a creative time.
Like you get a block time.
Dylan (08:45):
Block time.
There's a reason people reallylike block time because you just
your body knows this is this isthe period of time for this,
and you gotta hold yourself toit, which is the difficult part.
Brad (08:54):
But but I think there's times where I I want to do this,
I want to read, I want towrite, and it it just kind of
ends up floating and neverreally getting done, and then
nothing else really gets done.
Dylan (09:04):
Yeah.
Brad (09:05):
So m maybe uh blocking off that, and I actually was
reading, I'll have to bring itin next time, but it's a book on
on creativity and and how Ihave it upstairs to trick Ruben.
No, it's not that this is by alady um who's uh she's actually
a dance choreographer, like thereally famous, and it she just
talks about the differentprocesses that everybody has,
and that's I was just talking tosomebody the other day about
(09:27):
that they have a baby andthey're talking about uh sleep
training or potty training,doing whatever.
It's like, yeah, it's but it'ssomebody's gonna tell you
something, and that may not workfor you.
Might work perfect, yeah.
It might be the total oppositebecause of the who the baby is
and what your schedules are asparents and things like this.
And I feel like it's a littlebit of that with especially
creativity when you hear peoplelike the finance bros where I
(09:49):
get up at four o'clock and I doa thousand push-ups and I do
this, and it's like you have toprescribe to this methodology to
get the most out of blah blahblah.
And it's like, no, some peoplego to a studio at 7 p.m.
for three hours and that'stheir jam.
Yeah, it's not 5 a.m.
in the morning, you know, orsome people get up and have time
(10:09):
to themselves before, or somepeople get up and bam, write on
emails right away, or whateverit is.
Like everybody has a differentprocess.
The consistency is consistent,the consistency, right?
So, like whatever the processis, they do it all the time.
That's that's the differencemaker.
Yeah, you know, so it doesn'treally matter if you're waking
up at five o'clock in themorning or if you're going in to
(10:30):
be creative at 10 p.m.
at night, because everybody,everybody differs a little bit.
Like, yes, there's some uhthere's some truth to like
getting up in the morning iseasier to create routines and
things like that, but um thatdoesn't mean you have to do, you
know, XYZ at 6 a.m.
in the morning.
Dylan (10:44):
Yeah, uh so morning routines, and so I used to for
forever I would wake up and I'dbe like, my only mission was to
get into the office.
And if I felt like I was alittle bit late or I wasn't
gonna be there early enough, Iyou know, my morning routine
from getting out of bed to likegetting in the car to get to the
office was like 20 minutes,which is an insane it's not
(11:05):
enough time, it's not enoughtime, and that's where I was
getting in the office, and thenI was like, why am I so
stressed?
Because like my body was infight or flight mode from the
get-go.
Yeah, and then I get to theoffice, and it's like, what am I
even doing?
And don't get me wrong, I needto be in the office.
But so my whole thing now is Iwas laughing.
I was I don't know if I wastelling you this or somebody
else.
I've told a couple people, butthere was a couple weeks ago,
(11:26):
month ago, I was looking at myface and I was like, shit, I'm
getting older, which is fine.
Like, I don't want to, like, Iwasn't like in a travesty, but
I'm like, But like which whichpart gave it away?
I think it was just the grayhair everywhere, yeah, and the
the wrinkles and the dryness.
Um, but I'm like, I gotta starttaking care of my face again in
terms of like skincare routine.
Like, I actually need like I Ihad my face wash, but that it
(11:48):
was just like face wash reallyfast, boom, boom, boom.
And I'm like, as I'm gettingolder, I've gotta absolutely,
you know, take care of it.
I mean, I'm and I'm outside allthe time, so it's not like
there's elements that need to beaddressed.
And so now I'm just I have mymorning, shower, skincare.
I've got all you know asupplement stack that I take,
but then you're doing thePatrick Bateman.
I'm definitely American psycho.
(12:09):
Yes, I am definitely Americanpsycho.
But and I I've stopped like Idon't I don't I don't look at my
phone for the first half anhour of the day.
Some people are like the firsthour, but when I get up, I'm
I'll look at the clock.
Sorry, I look at the clock, butI don't I I have the uh sleep
mode on my phone so mynotifications don't come
through.
So I can see the clock, I rollout, I shower, I do basically
(12:30):
get everything in the bathroombefore, then as I'm getting
dressed, then I'll startchecking what's going on.
But then I've stopped, I'mlike, if I get into the office
15 minutes later, 20 minuteslater, I'm like, I just don't
care because I've found that asI come in, I'm in a way better
head space.
It's not that I'm in a bettermood, but I'm more I'm less
susceptible to bullshit becausethere's been time like because
I'm not stressed, or it's like,okay, well, we can handle that.
(12:51):
Whereas I'd come in, somethingwould happen, I'm still stressed
about me just being in thatstupid fight or flight mode.
And then it's like, oh, now I'mreally stressed.
Why?
No reason.
This is small, but I am.
So it's it's starting to allowyourself some space and not
making everything, it'sprioritization.
I need that in the mornings.
Time.
Yeah, it's important, and Ithink that's the easy the
(13:13):
easiest way to get that time isto wake up earlier.
So I think a lot of thesewake-up protocols come from the
well, where do you make moretime?
Most people don't wake up thatearly, so you can get time
there.
I well, I can do both.
I can wake up early, but I alsolike I'm one of those I'll
steal time at the end of thenight, yeah, type people as
well, where it's like, oh,everyone's in bed, sweet.
I can steal some time formyself at night.
Brad (13:34):
But it's also when you get uh like family involved, it's
it's always going to be easierto find time for yourself and
tasks in the morning than it isfor nighttime because you you
can inevitably find an excuse atnight to not do something.
So it just makes it that mucheasier.
But yeah, I think uh getting upa little bit earlier to give
(13:54):
some time, either for um it's Idon't know, just like maybe some
writing or some like uhprioritization for me is always
a big one.
You know, like I just sawanother quote where it's like if
you don't know your top threepriorities for the day, you
don't have any.
Oh, it's a hundred percent it,man.
Um, and that's that's me to a Tbecause it's like I might want
to do a hundred things and thenI end up doing, you know, one.
Dylan (14:17):
Yeah, because you do a bunch of menial tasks that
really have nothing tocontribute to the bottom line.
Brad (14:22):
Yeah.
And then organization isanother one.
Like I just did a smallinstall, and uh my day-to-day
kit is pretty dialed in.
So that that feels good.
Like I know as long as it'swithin the range of those three
toolboxes, I know whereeverything's at.
Everything's got its place, Igot everything dialed in.
And then when it gets a littlebit bigger than that, so it's
like I need to expand uh thatorganization into a a little bit
(14:44):
better space for shop andtransition stuff, uh, and just
make it, I don't know, a littlebit more mobile accessible,
things like that.
It's kind of like running I'verunning out of space.
Yeah.
I to what you're saying, I wantto just bang my head through
the wall.
Dylan (14:57):
That to me is the preparedness part that we just
were touching on, which is okay,my my build-out stack or my my
to-go stack, uh I need to investin that.
And is that gonna cost me alittle bit more money?
Is that gonna cost me sometime?
Yes, but when I start doingjobs, my mental health is gonna
be way better because it's like,oh, it's here.
I know it's here, I got it, Igrab it.
And I was and this is gonnasound it's is different but
(15:19):
similar.
Uh same, same, same, same, butdifferent, but different.
I I love gear, you know.
We have go rug bags, but it is.
It's like here's your here'syour here's your kit for all
your USB-C cables and chargers,and it's in this bag, and it's
slides in your backpack, and youknow it's always there.
Here's your little mini I fixit toolkit, it's in your bag.
(15:41):
And but I was you know workingat the shop and I've been
putting in a new smart lightswitches at the shop, and my
dad's like comes by what thefuck are you doing?
I was like, I I want to be ableto tell Alexa to turn the shop
on and off.
And he's just like, Well, it'sa shop.
I'm like, No, I know that, butit's this is a it's a luxury
that I'm willing to pay for.
I'm buying these lights, I'minstalling them because it makes
(16:01):
my life easier.
Whereas I'm I'm not leaving, orI can check to see if they're
on or off remotely.
Like, those are the things thattrigger I'm like, these are the
things that trigger me from myfrom my health perspective of oh
shit, did I turn all the lightsoff or are they on?
Or where's that light switchat?
Where's it not?
And it's I'm I'm willing toinvest in those little luxuries.
I think a lot of people, and II was kind of like this way for
a while, which was well, otherpeople don't need that.
(16:23):
Why do I need that?
And it's like everyone hastheir own priorities, you know.
Some people be like, I'm fineturning on light switches, you
know, it's a very mundane thing,and I'd feel guilty about
investing in that being like,Well, why if they don't need it,
why do I need it?
Well, that it triggers you,okay?
It's there are other thingsthat you're like, I don't have
you know, towel rack in my in mybathroom.
I just hang it over, you know,my shower door, and that would
(16:44):
drive other people bash itcrazy.
They would, their OCD doesn'tbother me.
So I'm like, well, I didn't buythe towel rack, I bought the
light switch.
So it's just who you are andwhat does and doesn't.
Brad (16:54):
But that that leads me to a little bit of what I hope to
accomplish through through theuh the more day-to-day sharpness
is closed loops.
Closed loops.
So like having less than a lotof things.
Invest in things that willclose those loops for you.
Yeah.
So it's uh like I'll walk outin the shop and if it's in
disarray, it's too many openloops to even deal with.
(17:14):
Where I'm like, I don't, Idon't even know where to start.
And so sometimes I don't start.
Oh, that's a real thing, youknow, and so it's I I want so
last year was you know, try totry to try to focus on one thing
at a time.
And inevitably, like that'sgonna fall apart a little bit,
but part of the main reason thatfalls apart is there's open
(17:34):
loops everywhere.
And uh so I think the thesharpness in the preparedness
and the setups, and I mean a lotof it is in before anything
ever happens and and trying tokeep it that way, even in
scheduling or uh the timemanagement or blocking out time
for certain things or whatwhatever it is.
Uh I think that will I knowthat will make a difference.
(17:55):
So then it's just a matter ofdoing it.
Dylan (17:58):
Well, there's that.
Do it, do it, do it.
No, we're gonna need that onetoo, aren't we?
Yeah.
I uh I've been on a kick toautomate as much as possible in
my life, and that was uh aWalmart Plus membership.
And it's like my order onMonday for Greek yogurt, uh my
kind uh oats that I really like,or uh granola, sorry.
(18:18):
You know, it's like the fivestaples of healthy snacks that
in they deliver for free ifyou're over a certain amount.
It's like, I don't know, it'slike 30 bucks and they deliver
for free.
It's part of my and sure, I pay$7.99 or $8.99, whatever a
Walmart plus membership costs.
Sorry if it's way higher.
Apologize, I don't really knowwhat it costs, but that's worth
it.
You know, and this is what Ilaugh about is people will step
over dollars to pick up pennies.
(18:40):
And to me, that's like aWalmart plus membership.
Is that my time is way morevaluable being able to be at my
house closing other loops that Ican't automate versus going, I
gotta go to the grocery storenow.
Yeah, and I guess what I getthese staples every week.
So sure, I'm still gonna haveto run to the grocery store for
the times I'm like, oh, I'mgonna do a really fancy dinner
tonight, have somebody comingover, or I'm gonna go to a
friend's house, I need to go dosome of this.
(19:00):
But if you know it's a staple,and also some people like some
people like doing that.
Some people like shopping, yes,you know, laundry and household
chores.
I it it bother I it's nottherapeutic to me.
And I don't make like Iunderstand that it's therapeutic
to some people, but I've alwayssaid the moment that I had
enough cash, I would ahousekeeper.
Yeah, it just I I don't carewhat it would cost if I had the
(19:21):
capital obvious, I care what itcosts now because I can't afford
it.
But it's because I those thingsdon't de-stress me.
There's other things I wouldrather go do that I could be
de-stressing with that would beworth the cast of a cost of
having somebody do it for me.
Brad (19:35):
Um, yeah, I I really enjoy doing random, easy tasks that
fall apart instantly.
That gives me joy.
Which ones?
Shannon got a license platecover for Christmas.
Oh no.
Mm-hmm.
It says something like whatdoes it say?
Like honk if you like bananasor something, maybe is this
Savannah Banana license plate?
(19:56):
No, I can't remember.
Maybe it's floral.
I don't remember.
Maybe it's Like choosehappiness.
Uh let them choose the bananaover the floor.
I don't know what it is.
But she's like, Can you putthat put it on for me?
And I was like, Yeah, noproblem.
So I go out there.
Two screws, Phillips, go outthere with the screwdriver, go
to turn it.
Screws won't turn.
Won't turn at all.
Okay.
(20:16):
Impact.
Go out there with the impact.
Start one, uh, it spins.
Breaks loose, spins.
Okay.
We'll deal with that later.
Go to the other one, the otherone breaks loose, comes out.
Go get a pry bar, put a littlepressure on that thing.
Yep, it's gonna come out.
Nope.
Just spins.
Turns out the back of that vandoesn't have like set uh
pressure knots.
Set like license plate holes inthem.
(20:39):
It's like they drilled holesand put threaded inserts in
them.
Oh no.
And so the inserts justspinning in that hole uh to the
point where I got it smoking.
Because I don't know if youknow this, but every machine is
a smoke machine if you use itwrong enough.
Yeah, that's it, it's a real.
So that happened.
Um and she comes out and I'mlike crushing the old plate
cover thing.
(21:00):
It's like, fuck you, piece ofchef.
What are you doing?
Nothing.
Nothing.
So now she has no license platecover because I just put the
other bolt back in.
This is good.
I was like, I'm not doing thisright now.
So this thing that should havetaken me 30 seconds is now gonna
be a whole project.
And yeah, that's great.
But when it comes to workstuff, the like you said, the
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more you can prepare ahead oftime.
Because you're like, I'm goingto run into those things all the
time.
Yes.
So I just went and installed acabinet and I said, uh, if this
goes like my morning, I'm gonnabe here for eight hours.
It's just just how it works,you know.
And it you love it when it goesthings go really smoothly.
But if you're prepared for whenit goes really poorly, that's
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it'll go better.
Dylan (21:43):
That's the difference, is there are so many times that
people lay out plans for a bestcase scenario.
You're like, that's fine, butwhat what's our what's our
contingency plan for wheneverything falls apart?
Yeah, like plan for the worst,yeah, and then you can still
hope for the best.
Yeah, but at least you plan forthe worst case.
Yeah, so like so worst casescenario, this happens.
Brad (22:02):
What are my options?
I bring precision tools for theinstall, but don't forget to
pack the saws off.
Dylan (22:08):
Oh, you yeah, just in case it's it can be a precision
tool in the right hands, oryeah.
So I've seen some carpenters dosome carpenters, I've seen some
framers do some crazy shit withsaws off.
Where you're you're like, whatare you doing?
You're like, oh, we're planningthis top plate off so it's
level, and you're like, uh, asthey're just going, they're just
fucking going horizontal withthe saws on top of a top plate,
and they're like, they did justtake off a 16th, and and then
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they get the they get the longboy out, and it is a dead level
wall, and you're like, Okay,time for them to go.
Brad (22:37):
That works, yeah.
But there was an an old Finnishcarpenter, and he goes, if you
don't plan accordingly, you'regonna need the saws all and you
don't want the saws all at thisstage in the building process.
That's shims, you want shims.
You want shims.
That's it.
Yeah, you want to use that, youdon't want to have to cut
things apart.
No, so it's but you have to beprepared for for all of that,
(22:58):
and some of that is is theforward thinking, so investing
in the right things, yeah.
Like take time to do drawings,take time to do extra
measurements, take time to dowhatever, and it it'll go
better.
Dylan (23:09):
Yeah, I think what you said about if you don't know
your top three three prioritiesevery day.
I think so many people livejust like moment to moment,
which is great.
And when you're in a personalera, you're outside your
profound.
It's okay when you're onvacation to live moment to
moment.
It's good, it's good to beaware.
Brad (23:23):
But even then, you you kind of give up something, yeah.
Right?
Like if you we were justtalking about vacation a little
bit, so I think next, notKyrgyzstan, but yes, Kyrgyzstan.
Maybe Colorado, Kyrgyzstan.
And it's that's how we're gonnado Kyrgyzstan.
Yeah, you might have to only doit that way.
I'm just I mean, I know it wasa one-off, somebody got
(23:45):
kidnapped, somebody got pushedoff a cliff.
You know, it was a bad guy thatgot cooked.
It was a it was a it was abeautiful ending of the story.
It wasn't even an ending.
He didn't actually die.
The guy that he pushed off thecliff?
Mm-hmm.
No shit.
I think it was in the justescaped.
They no, they thought he wasdead forever.
I think this was in the so thiswas Tommy Caldwell was in
Kyrgyzstan climbing.
I don't know if we covered thislast time, but there was a
there was a bit of a civiltussle, civil civil war, civil
(24:08):
coup.
There's a coup right there, andthey had some they had some
rebels and they just they wereup on a wall, I think, and these
guys started shooting at themon the wall.
Like, what did you guys hearthat?
Ting, ting, ting.
And it was like little piecesof rocket, and then we look
down, and there's these guysdown there that are shooting at
us at with rifles, and they'relike, get down here.
So they went down, they gotthey got kidnapped.
(24:29):
And for no reason other thanthey wanted hostages, basically.
So um, but yeah, he he ended upshoving this guy off of the
cliffside sort of when they weremoving around and they thought
he died.
And like it was either whilethey were making that Donwall
movie or slightly before thatsomething had came out um in a
article over there or something,and there was a picture of this
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this guy, and he actually hadsurvived.
Jesus.
I mean, not not well, but he hesurvived, and it was kind of a
a big burden that was lifted offhim.
Oh, only in the fact because hethought he had killed someone,
yeah, for the last like 15years, thought he'd killed
somebody.
And rightly so, but I don'tfeel like I'd I don't feel like
I'd have been that burden.
Um I mean there's there's gottabe a little something that's
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but he's like a super nice guytoo.
Dylan (25:15):
Yeah, that's the problem.
Brad (25:16):
Yeah, no, I guess nice guys don't finish last though.
Well, he didn't.
He did, he did.
I uh I would say the rightthing.
I I just don't want to do thatwhen we go to Kirkstan.
We're not gonna do that.
Okay, so but yeah, we'retalking about Colorado and I'm
trying to line up someactivities to do and things like
that.
So you can go and just let thewind take you.
And I think there's I hosilver.
(25:37):
I think there's some some goodto be said about uh the freedom
of taking chances when they whenthey arise.
Like, yeah, I plan this out andwe're at a we were at a
restaurant and we met somebodyand they're like, hey, we know
this really awesome thing to do.
You you want to go do that?
Okay, and then it might end upbeing just this amazing
adventure that you never wouldhave.
Dylan (25:57):
Yeah.
Brad (25:58):
And I think specifically people, like leaving room for
interactions with people thataren't planned.
I think that's where it reallyIt's meeting people, meeting
people, but then also just uhlike allowing space for those
interactions and those thosetypes of things.
But if you go there and youhave no plans, especially with
the way our brains operate, it'seasy to row, yeah, uh either
(26:19):
like do the same thing you'vealways done.
Yeah, I did this one thing onetime and it was really fun.
So I'm gonna do it like 500more times instead of trying out
some different things and newthings.
Dylan (26:28):
We've got some friends like that.
Or we go to the like we go backto the same city we were, and
they're like, dude, we had somuch fun at this bar.
We're gonna go back at 11 justlike we did last time, and we're
gonna be there till nineo'clock at night, and then we're
gonna go.
And it's gonna be exactly thesame because that's how life
works.
And you're like, um, there'sall these other cool bars and
restaurants and things to do.
We don't have to do it thatway.
Brad (26:48):
That's also the the argument I'm I'm having a little
bit is just I want to do othernew things, yeah.
And some of them, some of themwould be brand new for me, some
of them would be brand new foreverybody else in my family.
Um, but there is a you know,there's time and money
constraints and and all that, soit's working all that into Chet
GBT can figure that out foryou.
(27:08):
Yeah, yeah.
Dylan (27:09):
Here are my constraints, here are my items.
Do it.
How do you take my wife'semotions into account?
Brad (27:14):
She goes, Do we want to camp three days or four days?
I was like, Aren't you justgoing to decide this?
Yeah.
I go, what what if we break itup?
What if we go hotel, camp,hotel, home?
Yeah, we're not gonna do that.
Okay, so it's been decided.
Yes.
So so like most like mostvacations, uh, I'm gonna give
you input.
You're gonna say thank you.
I go in Frank's Nasha on this,and I'll do it my way.
(27:35):
Yep.
And yeah.
So, but I have to give a littlebit on those too because she's
good at that.
Yeah.
I mean, she's good at theplanning.
She even the the preparednessand the sharpness of she is the
person that lays her week'sworth of clothing out prior to
the week.
So Sunday night, that's what itis.
It's here's Monday, Tuesday,Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
Dylan (27:56):
She knows that?
Jesus.
I wish I had that.
Yeah.
So she knows.
That's why I just keep buyingthe same shit.
Like I just have I've juststarted really reducing.
I have like really nicewardrobes, but then like my
day-to-day wardrobe is just thesame outfit, I feel like, which
I'm okay with.
It's because my it's fine.
My stress levels in the morningare way less.
Brad (28:14):
And she has the staples, but she puts everything together
so that that's something shedoesn't think about in the
morning.
She hang it up.
Dylan (28:21):
Okay.
Brad (28:21):
So she builds it all, hangs it up, and then cool.
So it's together.
She preps her lunch for theweek.
She makes five salads.
Damn.
Does the thing.
She eats the same pretty muchthing every morning, makes the
coffee, even though she doesn'talways drink the coffee.
It's you know, there.
And that's a lot smarter thanme.
Yeah.
I I just what are you gonnahave for lunch today?
(28:42):
Uh could be I might takesomething, but I probably won't.
So maybe nothing.
Or maybe I'm having a good dayand I go have like three
margaritas.
I don't know.
There's no in between for you.
I don't know.
It's definitely not gonna behealthy either way.
Yeah.
Uh it is.
Yeah.
So those those are some So whatwas last year's goal?
Just to try to maintain likeone project at a time.
(29:03):
Is that still this year's goalthen?
I think that should always bethe goal.
It's just how to make thatconsistent so that I don't have
to think about it all the time.
Dylan (29:13):
So I started watching um this show called The Lazarus
Project.
It's on Netflix.
It's about a timekeepingorganization.
Is that the person that likehad uh Lazarus?
Brad (29:24):
Yeah, what did he have?
Leprosy?
Did he?
I don't know.
Or is that something different?
No, I can't remember.
But Lazarus, did he have theladder?
Dylan (29:32):
No, that was Jacob.
I thought that was I thoughtthat was Santa Claus.
Brad (29:34):
You don't have a ladder.
Dylan (29:35):
A rose such clatter?
Like clatter.
The no the no the North Poleladder company?
Brad (29:40):
Mm-hmm.
Dylan (29:41):
Lazarus of Bethany, the biblical friend of Jesus who is
resurrected from the dead.
Brad (29:46):
Oh what?
So there was two of them?
I don't know.
He brought them back.
Dylan (29:50):
So basically the Lazarus Project is they can turn back
time, and certain people canfeel that.
And so they work for thisorganization.
So when world-ending eventshappen, they're like the world's
actually ended like 300 times,but we have to keep turning it
back.
They turn it back and they havesecret agents that go and like
prevent it from happening.
But there was like this oneepisode where they're like
(30:11):
having a coup in like Kazakhstanor some shit, and then like
they kept turning they turned itback like 30 times in one
summer because it just keptfucking up.
And it was just yeah.
Brad (30:21):
A little bit like the uh Time Machine and the Family Guy.
Oh they they keep going to likedifferent realms, I guess.
So there's a uh remote controlthat they have, and they keep
pressing the buttons, and itjust this switches constantly
sometimes it's it's reallyminor, and sometimes it's a
major one, and what was it?
One of them switch so it was uhStewie and Brian that were
(30:44):
doing this, and then they endedup in one where the dogs were
the humans and the people wereon leashes and something else,
but yeah, it got to some weirdspots, and the the weirdest one.
Stewie was like, maybe we juststay here, like he would.
So uh a little bit like that.
Yeah, no, no time travel, man.
(31:05):
Or like the dark matter show.
Dylan (31:07):
I don't watch that.
Brad (31:07):
That's on Apple.
I don't like that's uh not timetravel, but different, what do
they call it?
Different uh universemultiverses, the multiverse.
Yes.
So wait, which one's darkmatter?
So they they build a thescientist builds a box that is
completely void of outsidesensory uh interference.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
(31:28):
And then they develop thisshot, this serum that
essentially puts your mind intosuperposition in the quantum
sense.
And so this box ends upbecoming a hallway of doors,
which is the multiverse.
Okay, and so you can walk downthis thing and go into any door
you want to, and it's anotherworld that exists, and that you
(31:50):
you may or may not exist inbecause there's an infinite
number of versions of uh that'sright.
Dylan (31:56):
He does have kids, right?
Or something like this, uhthere's all kinds.
Brad (31:59):
So so say like you had you you you had twins, and when
they were born, one of themdied, right?
So like in another multiverse,the other one doesn't die, but
then it goes even more uh minuteso that there are universes
that almost exactly mimic uh butyour dog is yours, or even
mimic it precisely up to acertain point and then changes
(32:24):
after that.
And so yeah, it gets a littlebit mind-numbing.
I'm gonna pass on the sex firsttime.
You don't you don't like it?
No, okay.
Dylan (32:30):
I don't I've been in a debate with someone recently
about uh infinity versus uhfinite, okay, and they believe
that everything lasts forever.
But I don't understand.
I that's how I don't understandeverything lasts forever.
They think that like you and I,and like yes, we die, but the
like everything keeps movingforward, and like you still have
(32:52):
some and I I've been trying todig to the root of this with
them about is this like youstill hold emotional contact or
you know, when souls move on, orwhatever, like I I'm still
trying to flesh that out.
What I've what I've what I'vestarted to realize, or what I've
I've started to gather, is thatthey just have a very hard time
with the idea of things arefinite.
And so I I can't really get ananswer out of them what they
(33:12):
mean by infinity, other thanthat we just exist forever.
Brad (33:17):
I I from the basic assumptions of physics, there is
no gaining or losing ever.
Dylan (33:24):
That's what I've talked about is like your cells will
deteriorate, go into the earth,and also go back up by something
else someday.
Brad (33:31):
But also that's standard physics, and we're learning more
and more that the universedoesn't necessarily operate
entirely on standard physics.
Dylan (33:39):
Yeah.
Brad (33:40):
Because the things that they're able to do in quantum
physics now do not make sense inthe standard physics world.
Dylan (33:45):
Once you look at it, it jumps across the room.
Brad (33:47):
Just uh I mean, yeah, all kinds of stuff.
Where the fuck did that go?
Well, they uh they recentlyfigured out basically
teleportation on a quantumlevel.
Okay, so teleportation, but notin the sense that, and this is
where the multiverse thing kindof comes in.
So not in the sense that youtake this particle and then
somehow send that particle offinto another space at a at a
(34:10):
rate that would you know exceedthe speed of light or something
like that.
It recreates that exact sameparticle in another area.
And you're like, okay, talk tome, goose.
And here's the here's thephilosophy part of it, right?
Is what you you have anidentity.
This is this is you.
Okay, well, now I justrecreated myself in a different
time space area.
(34:31):
Who's me?
Oh, we talked about this withTheseus Ship.
You rebuild it all if you like.
Yeah, but it yeah, but itdoesn't even really re- it just
replicates.
I know that's what I'm saying.
It's not you, and so there'sfrom then on, there's two of you
that exist, but you you're notthe same anymore because you're
having different experiences.
Dylan (34:47):
I don't like it.
Brad (34:47):
And that's essentially what dark matter gets to at some
point.
So I like finite.
Dylan (34:51):
Finite's nice, it's easy.
Brad (34:53):
Wrap it up in a box with a bow.
Yeah, uh, but it makes thingsbeautiful.
That's why we can't lookoutside of we gotta stay in the
box.
We need that.
What's in the box?
Don't look out there, don'tlook.
It gets too complicated outthere.
Stay in here.
I don't know.
Finite makes things beautiful.
Stay in here, cut your greentape with scissors.
Dylan (35:09):
Yeah, the big thing's recently been the the what the
rental theory where you don'tyou don't own basically
anything, you just rent it.
You might you might you'regonna die, somebody else is
gonna die.
You fucking rent this body,yeah.
You're renting this body, oryou're not behind on points.
Your kids, you're you know,it's it's a it's a rental, and
so you have to treat it that wayof that this is going to end.
(35:30):
Well, yeah, but be carefulsaying treat it like a rental.
Well, I don't well, it's notit's not gonna be the enterprise
fucking rental.
Brad (35:40):
It'd be the jackass where they bring the car back after
like a demolition derby.
Dylan (35:45):
Sign the waiver.
Brad (35:47):
Uh it was like this when I got it.
Dylan (35:51):
But yeah, you're never gonna yeah, you get it one lap
and and people annoy the shitout of you, but you can still
enjoy them.
Yeah, or you cut them out andjust say, Buck it, I'm ending it
sooner.
Brad (36:01):
That's yeah.
I I think you gotta, I mean, Ithink that's the morality of of
living is being able to reallyenjoy things without
intentionally harming yourselfor others.
Dylan (36:10):
Yeah, no, uh, I don't it's hard, it's a balance.
Brad (36:14):
It's hard.
Dylan (36:15):
So sharpness, preparedness, finding, you know,
finding that balance of gettingyourself prepared, also
allowing yourself to have somesome freestyle in there.
Brad (36:24):
Yeah, do the work before so you can have the freedom
later.
Dylan (36:26):
That's how do people draw that line though?
When's when's enough work?
You hear a lot of peoplesaying, like, well, I'll be
happy in 20 years when this allpans out.
It's like, well, yeah, spendsome time to enjoy yourself.
I'm kind of in that mode rightnow, or like I was just telling
you before this episode, I thinkmy body's told me I'm not, I'm
like, I'm not getting sick, butmy body just doesn't want to do
anything right now.
And it's I've been on marathonsince July, it feels like.
(36:47):
And I think my body's justlike, hey, you uh you just got
through Christmas and there'sreally not a lot going on, so
why don't you just chill?
Brad (36:54):
But but if I don't prepare, I find myself in that
endless loop of of workingbecause I haven't put systems
into place, and so it's justrunning running the rat race,
it's finding the systems thatwork for you, the next thing and
the next thing and the nextthing instead of it's a good
litmus test.
Putting in the work prior toand then also scheduling the
(37:17):
time to relax or be creative orhave these activities, or it's
also doing.
Dylan (37:23):
I think a lot of people spend time preparing, and I'll
say preparing in terms ofreading books, reading systems,
reading other things withoutactually putting them into
effect.
Yeah.
It's like find something thatappeals to you and just go do
it.
And it and guess what?
You you're never gonna make itperfect before you actually go
do it.
So go do it.
You're gonna find what does anddoesn't work for you really
fast, and then you can iterate.
Yeah, but it's the you find somany people who are just like,
(37:46):
Well, I'm not there yet.
I'm just grinding, I'mlearning, I'm doing it's like
just it you learn fastest bydrinking out of a water out of a
fucking fire hose because it'sjust blah, you're just like
that's that's never been a realthing.
Brad (37:58):
I don't think that makes sense at all.
It just get no just drink waterout of fire hose.
No, I think that's how youwould like blow up internal.
Yeah, but you'll you'll lasterto not do that.
Exactly.
I mean, that's one way to lookat it.
But I like I like learning bydoing well, done is done is
better than perfect.
Dylan (38:16):
Yeah, perfection is the enemy of progress.
Yes.
So go try to put some systemsin place.
Brad (38:21):
Do it first, try to put them there, and then then you
can work on it.
Dylan (38:24):
Buy that light switch that makes your life easier.
Buy that six thousand dollartoolbox I mean that has drawers,
maybe there's one ballbearings, maybe there's one at
Home Depot or Harbor or sorry,Harbor Freight.
Harbor Freight definitely hasbetter stuff, yeah.
Yeah, US General.
Brad (38:38):
Are they US General?
Dylan (38:39):
Well, they have icon now.
Brad (38:40):
Oh, they have icon now, yeah.
It's pretty sweet.
It's good shit.
I guess it's not just good.
I got a lot of harbor freight.
Dylan (38:45):
I got a lot of I got a lot of Harbor Freight shit, and
it's pretty cheap.
Yeah, it's not just cheap, someof it's good.
Yeah, so anyway, anything toend on?
Kyrgyzstan, Kyrgyzstan.
We are going to Kyrgyzstan.
It's beautiful.
Brad (38:57):
Do you know how easy this is for me?
Do you have any fucking ideahow we can do that?
I don't think it's easy.
I don't even know where it'sat.
Dylan (39:02):
You can't do this.
I really am because I wouldn'thave to find it.
Brad (39:07):
It's a long do they have airports?
Yes.
One.
Dylan (39:11):
I don't know.
Let's look it up after this.
Actually, let's just fucking doit right now.
Brad (39:16):
Camels may be involved.
All right.
Chicago to Kyrgyzstan.
Dylan (39:20):
The direct flight.
I don't think there's a I don'tthink that's how this one's
gonna work.
Something tells me we're gonnabe going through like Turkey or
some shit like that.
Brad (39:28):
All right.
Dylan (39:29):
Sorry, we were gonna end the episode.
Brad (39:31):
Sometimes the waypoints can be dangerous too.
Uh why?
I don't want to be trafficked.
Turkey's fun, man.
Dylan (39:37):
I bet a small, good-looking old man.
You would definitely not betrafficked in Turkey.
I'm Kirk.
I'm not fitting that.
Um, so they've got Bishek,they've got Tamchi, and they've
got Kork Osh three.
Which which one's the capital?
I don't even know.
No, they've got four.
I'm not that good at geography.
Brad (39:57):
Okay.
Dylan (39:58):
I'm decent, but I'm not.
You'd be Turkish Airlines,dude.
So business class on TurkishAirlines.
Brad (40:04):
You know what I think of when I think Turkish Airlines?
Dylan (40:06):
$9,000.
Yikes.
What's a what's an economyticket cost?
$1,200.
That's better.
All right.
So let's do this actually.
Let's go.
Say we want to go in April.
Brad (40:16):
Buy it.
April.
What's April weather like inKyrgyzstan?
Dylan (40:19):
Don't know.
Why is there somebody runningin my backyard?
Brad (40:21):
Um, there's a lot of people with dogs out today.
Dylan (40:23):
Oh, dude, we can get a we can get a ticket for $5,200.
That's business class.
No.
Hey man, we'll leave fromO'Hare to Istanbul.
And then we've got a two-hourlayout, dude, Istanbul airport.
Chef's kiss.
And then we got a five-hourflight to Kyrgyzstan from I
think we're going, dude.
How long to Istanbul?
Uh, that's a an 11-hour flight.
Oh, that's not bad.
No, it's fun.
It's it's beautiful airport.
(40:44):
The runway system is massivethere, and uh Denver pales in
comparison to how big the runwaysystem is.
I don't, yeah.
Anyway.
Yeah.
So Kyrgyzstan.
Um I like big runway systems.
Dude, podcasting in Kyrgyzstan?
No.
Yes.
No, they don't have electricitythere.
I'm just gonna tell everysingle We're gonna live stream,
(41:05):
do you?
Because I'm gonna have a I'mgonna have the sat phone.
No, no, no, no.
I'm gonna I'm gonna getStarlink, the roaming one.
Brad (41:11):
They don't have satellites there.
Dylan (41:12):
Okay, yeah, because satellites are.
Brad (41:14):
Wait, do you understand how satellites work?
Dylan (41:17):
All right, go fuck yourself.
I'm leaving.
Ferris (41:20):
You still here It's over.
This is the Terribly Unoblivious Podcast.
Ferris (00:03):
Yep.
I said it before and I'll sayit again.
Life moves pretty fast.
You don't stop and look aroundonce in a while.
You could miss it.
Dylan (00:20):
Shit.
Oh, there it goes.
I just hit the button anddidn't do anything.
That's something.
But wow.
We're doing it for we're doingit live.
We're doing it for real.
We have nothing planned.
We haven't even done ourtraditional banter before the
episode where we cut each otheroff and say save it for the
episode.
Or we talk about the so benignthat it just I think we
intentionally stay boringpre-episode just to get angry at
(00:42):
each other so we can there's nothere's no anger.
There's no crying in baseball.
That's we actually that's whatwe should get as a soundbite.
No crying in baseball.
Brad (00:50):
There's no crying in baseball.
Yeah.
We're gonna do a short.
This is gonna be a short one.
Blitzgrieg.
Dylan (00:56):
That's the we're gonna call it the Schlieffen plan.
That's the goal.
Actually, yeah, a AI that namesour episodes.
Please make sure you call thisepisode the Schlieffen plan.
I don't think that's gonnaattract the right style
customer.
Nobody there may be one personin our audience knows what the
Schlieffen plan is.
Brad (01:13):
They didn't say shit about you.
History buffs coming on here.
Oh you're not gonna get anyhistory on here today.
No, it's not gonna happen.
No.
They didn't say shit aboutWorld War II.
Dylan (01:26):
Uh no, Schlieffen Plan was World War I.
Oh, was it?
Yeah, that was uh the that wasthe original um that's the
original plan.
Brad (01:33):
From General Plan.
Blueprint from Rageddon.
The guy's name was GeneralPlan.
I think so.
And the the idea name wasSchlieffen.
Yeah.
Okay.
Last episode we started on uhsome some good topics, and then
you went on a Kyrgyzstanstraight downhill ski run.
Dylan (01:49):
Yeah.
Still there, by the way.
Still there.
Brad (01:51):
All I get are Kyrgyzstan reels.
Doesn't it look great though?
It looks amazing.
That's it's wild country outthere.
Yeah, for sure.
But that's not what we're gonnatalk about today.
What are we gonna talk abouttoday?
I want to talk about sharpnessand how there's a lack thereof
in our both our brains rightnow.
Yeah, it's just completely.
I think it's something that wealways uh strive for.
Ferris (02:12):
But did you die?
Brad (02:13):
Haven't died, haven't done much of living either lately.
Why not?
On break.
We're on break.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which is okay, but we didfinish the what kind of I mean,
I I feel like I always thinkabout this, especially coming up
on the new year and the youknow, reset and and all that,
and time to get sharp down tobusiness and brass tax tidy
(02:35):
things up for the for the nextyear.
And I did actually keep my newyear's goal in mind all year.
Okay.
Although not in effect.
So you were consciously awareof the lack thereof.
I was consciously aware of myfailure to do so.
That's awesome.
Dylan (02:53):
Yeah.
How'd that make you feel?
Brad (02:55):
Uh I mean, being aware is that's true.
Right?
That's true.
That's true.
So now it's now it's time tosolve the problem.
Dylan (03:03):
But we how are we defining sharpness first for the
audience?
Brad (03:06):
Well, so let me start.
We me and Shannon finished upthe bear.
So the final the final season.
I need to watch that.
But there are there are certainthings in there, and you can
speak to this because youprobably remember it a little
bit better than I do.
But it it really started whenuh Richie goes to Ever and does
the training there.
He goes, goes at a restaurantand to Copenhagen?
No, no, no.
(03:26):
This is the one that's oh thereally fine one in Chicago.
Dylan (03:30):
Sorry, I sorry, Richie goes to yes, Ever.
Yep.
And he learns how to learn howto clean the most basic
silverware, but it starts at thebottom.
Brad (03:37):
Yeah.
Yeah.
He learns how to be realfucking precise about
everything.
And and so part of it waspolishing, but it it leads to
everything else.
Uh the other thing in the otherthing that I think about is the
green tape, right?
They don't just rip it, theycut it.
Right.
So they have tape that uhlabels everything, so all the
(03:58):
food items, the canister fooditem items and then when the
date on it was or the mixes orwhatever they're doing for the
day, and then the the green tapegoes on there and it's not just
ripped off the roll, it isscissored so that everything is
clean and precise, and that goestowards bottom up, right?
Like everything for a purpose,yes, kind of deal.
(04:19):
Um so how how do I startincorporating more of that into
my life without becoming OCDbananas?
Because on the flip side of myso-called life, uh I've seen
some TikToks on this guy, Ican't remember that his account,
but he basically has a three orfour car garage that he turned
(04:39):
into a detailing.
He's got a couple like reallynice Porsches that are in there
and like a Bronco and somethingelse.
But his mechanics setup isbonkers organized.
Yeah.
Like it's so organized it makesme uncomfortable because it's
one of those things where it'slike, well, what happens if you
ever lose this one socket?
But are you gonna lose yourmind?
(05:00):
Like, I don't want to be thatthat rigid, yeah.
Dylan (05:03):
Where like that's the problem, like that would throw
you off because people buildthese systems, and I'm not just
saying that are so rigid thatthere's no flexibility that
they'll break the moment there'sa little bit of pressure
applied.
Brad (05:14):
So they're fine until they break.
Yeah, and then if that like,oh, I don't have that one
socket, that's gonna drive meinsane.
Like, okay.
Dylan (05:20):
I think the kitchen is probably the best analogy going
back to the bear and uh everwith Richie.
Is they and so you gotta thinkabout in terms of your life, a
little bit of breaking your lifeinto prep and then actually
living, if that makes sense.
You know, obviously we'reliving every day, but it's and
this is the fun part withpodcasts and uh social media and
(05:41):
digital media and all thesedifferent outlets, and all these
different people have differentmethods and methodologies, and
it it it it goes back to alittle bit of Jocko's uh
discipline equals freedom, whichis yeah, when you have
downtime, what can you be doing?
And it's not that you alwayshave to be like chaotically or
so aggressively in the must beprepping, must be prepping, must
be prepping.
Right.
But it's getting your basicsdone so that when you do have
(06:03):
that Sunday afternoon off, ifyou take that Sunday noon Sunday
afternoon off and you couldstill go into the office on
Monday morning and not feelchaotic, then you did what you
needed to do during the prepareit's prepared, yeah.
You prepared for it, and that'sthe kitchen.
They come in so early, they'reprepping all day.
They're the neat, the organizedlabels, and they do that
because when shit hits the fan,they know where everything's at
(06:26):
so that they can execute becauseeventually something will
happen.
They control as much of theirenvironment as possible, right?
And then the chaos of servicecomes, and then they'll deal
with it.
But they know going into thatservice, they did what they
could do.
And so it's a little bit aboutthat in life of how do you how
do you keep your body asprepared or how do you keep your
life as prepared as possiblewithout going so OCD rigidness
(06:48):
where when one thing falls outof line, because you've seen
that where and I it happens tome all the time.
I I have this thing and my mystaff laughs at me because
between 11 and 12 30 in theafternoon or 11 30 in the
morning, 12 30 in the afternoon,I go for a run, one hour run.
Don't does not matter.
It is drop whatever I'm doingand I go and I tell people
because if I don't make thattime for myself and I make the
(07:10):
one, the two, three days in arow excuse of well, work's
really important, this and this,I I'll just I'll stop doing it,
I'll fall out of the habit.
And so um, I that's my onething a day that no matter what,
I don't care if the office ison fire, clients are down.
I mean, I'll sit there and I'llorganize what's happening and
I'll you know set the game plan,but I'm not a day-to-day guy.
I have guys that are in thethick of it, and it's okay,
(07:33):
we've done what we could, I'vedone what I could do.
I trust you guys to go nowfigure this out and keep me in
the loop, but I'm gonna go for arun now because me sitting here
just watching you guys workisn't gonna help anything.
Brad (07:42):
I I think I was thinking about this today on my way in
that the You have to make sometime for yourself, no matter
what.
Well, the freedom, the freedomof my life is what can kill me.
Dylan (07:53):
I think Black Rifle Coffee just did a special on
that with Andy Stumpf, which wassome I think the title of it
was something along of Life GetsHard When Nobody's Telling You
What to Do.
Yeah.
It was basically like Andygetting out of the military and
then going and having all thesechoices because he was such a
talented guy and skydiving,CrossFit, flying, all the and
it's I haven't watched yet, butI think the premise is like
(08:14):
trying to figure out what to dowhen nobody's telling you what
to do is really hard.
Brad (08:17):
But then I thought that sometimes I just like I'm on
break, have some time, and youwant to spend time with your
family, and as the uh the ADHDhappens, you're like, I got I
got a free day, I can doanything I want to, which
usually evolves into crippled,crippling nothingness, you know.
And so I I think trying tobuild uh build a schedule that
(08:41):
yes, there's freedom, but likebuild in a creative time.
Like you get a block time.
Dylan (08:45):
Block time.
There's a reason people reallylike block time because you just
your body knows this is this isthe period of time for this,
and you gotta hold yourself toit, which is the difficult part.
Brad (08:54):
But but I think there's times where I I want to do this,
I want to read, I want towrite, and it it just kind of
ends up floating and neverreally getting done, and then
nothing else really gets done.
Dylan (09:04):
Yeah.
Brad (09:05):
So m maybe uh blocking off that, and I actually was
reading, I'll have to bring itin next time, but it's a book on
on creativity and and how Ihave it upstairs to trick Ruben.
No, it's not that this is by alady um who's uh she's actually
a dance choreographer, like thereally famous, and it she just
talks about the differentprocesses that everybody has,
and that's I was just talking tosomebody the other day about
(09:27):
that they have a baby andthey're talking about uh sleep
training or potty training,doing whatever.
It's like, yeah, it's but it'ssomebody's gonna tell you
something, and that may not workfor you.
Might work perfect, yeah.
It might be the total oppositebecause of the who the baby is
and what your schedules are asparents and things like this.
And I feel like it's a littlebit of that with especially
creativity when you hear peoplelike the finance bros where I
(09:49):
get up at four o'clock and I doa thousand push-ups and I do
this, and it's like you have toprescribe to this methodology to
get the most out of blah blahblah.
And it's like, no, some peoplego to a studio at 7 p.m.
for three hours and that'stheir jam.
Yeah, it's not 5 a.m.
in the morning, you know, orsome people get up and have time
(10:09):
to themselves before, or somepeople get up and bam, write on
emails right away, or whateverit is.
Like everybody has a differentprocess.
The consistency is consistent,the consistency, right?
So, like whatever the processis, they do it all the time.
That's that's the differencemaker.
Yeah, you know, so it doesn'treally matter if you're waking
up at five o'clock in themorning or if you're going in to
(10:30):
be creative at 10 p.m.
at night, because everybody,everybody differs a little bit.
Like, yes, there's some uhthere's some truth to like
getting up in the morning iseasier to create routines and
things like that, but um thatdoesn't mean you have to do, you
know, XYZ at 6 a.m.
in the morning.
Dylan (10:44):
Yeah, uh so morning routines, and so I used to for
forever I would wake up and I'dbe like, my only mission was to
get into the office.
And if I felt like I was alittle bit late or I wasn't
gonna be there early enough, Iyou know, my morning routine
from getting out of bed to likegetting in the car to get to the
office was like 20 minutes,which is an insane it's not
(11:05):
enough time, it's not enoughtime, and that's where I was
getting in the office, and thenI was like, why am I so
stressed?
Because like my body was infight or flight mode from the
get-go.
Yeah, and then I get to theoffice, and it's like, what am I
even doing?
And don't get me wrong, I needto be in the office.
But so my whole thing now is Iwas laughing.
I was I don't know if I wastelling you this or somebody
else.
I've told a couple people, butthere was a couple weeks ago,
(11:26):
month ago, I was looking at myface and I was like, shit, I'm
getting older, which is fine.
Like, I don't want to, like, Iwasn't like in a travesty, but
I'm like, But like which whichpart gave it away?
I think it was just the grayhair everywhere, yeah, and the
the wrinkles and the dryness.
Um, but I'm like, I gotta starttaking care of my face again in
terms of like skincare routine.
Like, I actually need like I Ihad my face wash, but that it
(11:48):
was just like face wash reallyfast, boom, boom, boom.
And I'm like, as I'm gettingolder, I've gotta absolutely,
you know, take care of it.
I mean, I'm and I'm outside allthe time, so it's not like
there's elements that need to beaddressed.
And so now I'm just I have mymorning, shower, skincare.
I've got all you know asupplement stack that I take,
but then you're doing thePatrick Bateman.
I'm definitely American psycho.
(12:09):
Yes, I am definitely Americanpsycho.
But and I I've stopped like Idon't I don't I don't look at my
phone for the first half anhour of the day.
Some people are like the firsthour, but when I get up, I'm
I'll look at the clock.
Sorry, I look at the clock, butI don't I I have the uh sleep
mode on my phone so mynotifications don't come
through.
So I can see the clock, I rollout, I shower, I do basically
(12:30):
get everything in the bathroombefore, then as I'm getting
dressed, then I'll startchecking what's going on.
But then I've stopped, I'mlike, if I get into the office
15 minutes later, 20 minuteslater, I'm like, I just don't
care because I've found that asI come in, I'm in a way better
head space.
It's not that I'm in a bettermood, but I'm more I'm less
susceptible to bullshit becausethere's been time like because
I'm not stressed, or it's like,okay, well, we can handle that.
(12:51):
Whereas I'd come in, somethingwould happen, I'm still stressed
about me just being in thatstupid fight or flight mode.
And then it's like, oh, now I'mreally stressed.
Why?
No reason.
This is small, but I am.
So it's it's starting to allowyourself some space and not
making everything, it'sprioritization.
I need that in the mornings.
Time.
Yeah, it's important, and Ithink that's the easy the
(13:13):
easiest way to get that time isto wake up earlier.
So I think a lot of thesewake-up protocols come from the
well, where do you make moretime?
Most people don't wake up thatearly, so you can get time
there.
I well, I can do both.
I can wake up early, but I alsolike I'm one of those I'll
steal time at the end of thenight, yeah, type people as
well, where it's like, oh,everyone's in bed, sweet.
I can steal some time formyself at night.
Brad (13:34):
But it's also when you get uh like family involved, it's
it's always going to be easierto find time for yourself and
tasks in the morning than it isfor nighttime because you you
can inevitably find an excuse atnight to not do something.
So it just makes it that mucheasier.
But yeah, I think uh getting upa little bit earlier to give
(13:54):
some time, either for um it's Idon't know, just like maybe some
writing or some like uhprioritization for me is always
a big one.
You know, like I just sawanother quote where it's like if
you don't know your top threepriorities for the day, you
don't have any.
Oh, it's a hundred percent it,man.
Um, and that's that's me to a Tbecause it's like I might want
to do a hundred things and thenI end up doing, you know, one.
Dylan (14:17):
Yeah, because you do a bunch of menial tasks that
really have nothing tocontribute to the bottom line.
Brad (14:22):
Yeah.
And then organization isanother one.
Like I just did a smallinstall, and uh my day-to-day
kit is pretty dialed in.
So that that feels good.
Like I know as long as it'swithin the range of those three
toolboxes, I know whereeverything's at.
Everything's got its place, Igot everything dialed in.
And then when it gets a littlebit bigger than that, so it's
like I need to expand uh thatorganization into a a little bit
(14:44):
better space for shop andtransition stuff, uh, and just
make it, I don't know, a littlebit more mobile accessible,
things like that.
It's kind of like running I'verunning out of space.
Yeah.
I to what you're saying, I wantto just bang my head through
the wall.
Dylan (14:57):
That to me is the preparedness part that we just
were touching on, which is okay,my my build-out stack or my my
to-go stack, uh I need to investin that.
And is that gonna cost me alittle bit more money?
Is that gonna cost me sometime?
Yes, but when I start doingjobs, my mental health is gonna
be way better because it's like,oh, it's here.
I know it's here, I got it, Igrab it.
And I was and this is gonnasound it's is different but
(15:19):
similar.
Uh same, same, same, same, butdifferent, but different.
I I love gear, you know.
We have go rug bags, but it is.
It's like here's your here'syour here's your kit for all
your USB-C cables and chargers,and it's in this bag, and it's
slides in your backpack, and youknow it's always there.
Here's your little mini I fixit toolkit, it's in your bag.
(15:41):
And but I was you know workingat the shop and I've been
putting in a new smart lightswitches at the shop, and my
dad's like comes by what thefuck are you doing?
I was like, I I want to be ableto tell Alexa to turn the shop
on and off.
And he's just like, Well, it'sa shop.
I'm like, No, I know that, butit's this is a it's a luxury
that I'm willing to pay for.
I'm buying these lights, I'minstalling them because it makes
(16:01):
my life easier.
Whereas I'm I'm not leaving, orI can check to see if they're
on or off remotely.
Like, those are the things thattrigger I'm like, these are the
things that trigger me from myfrom my health perspective of oh
shit, did I turn all the lightsoff or are they on?
Or where's that light switchat?
Where's it not?
And it's I'm I'm willing toinvest in those little luxuries.
I think a lot of people, and II was kind of like this way for
a while, which was well, otherpeople don't need that.
(16:23):
Why do I need that?
And it's like everyone hastheir own priorities, you know.
Some people be like, I'm fineturning on light switches, you
know, it's a very mundane thing,and I'd feel guilty about
investing in that being like,Well, why if they don't need it,
why do I need it?
Well, that it triggers you,okay?
It's there are other thingsthat you're like, I don't have
you know, towel rack in my in mybathroom.
I just hang it over, you know,my shower door, and that would
(16:44):
drive other people bash itcrazy.
They would, their OCD doesn'tbother me.
So I'm like, well, I didn't buythe towel rack, I bought the
light switch.
So it's just who you are andwhat does and doesn't.
Brad (16:54):
But that that leads me to a little bit of what I hope to
accomplish through through theuh the more day-to-day sharpness
is closed loops.
Closed loops.
So like having less than a lotof things.
Invest in things that willclose those loops for you.
Yeah.
So it's uh like I'll walk outin the shop and if it's in
disarray, it's too many openloops to even deal with.
(17:14):
Where I'm like, I don't, Idon't even know where to start.
And so sometimes I don't start.
Oh, that's a real thing, youknow, and so it's I I want so
last year was you know, try totry to try to focus on one thing
at a time.
And inevitably, like that'sgonna fall apart a little bit,
but part of the main reason thatfalls apart is there's open
(17:34):
loops everywhere.
And uh so I think the thesharpness in the preparedness
and the setups, and I mean a lotof it is in before anything
ever happens and and trying tokeep it that way, even in
scheduling or uh the timemanagement or blocking out time
for certain things or whatwhatever it is.
Uh I think that will I knowthat will make a difference.
(17:55):
So then it's just a matter ofdoing it.
Dylan (17:58):
Well, there's that.
Do it, do it, do it.
No, we're gonna need that onetoo, aren't we?
Yeah.
I uh I've been on a kick toautomate as much as possible in
my life, and that was uh aWalmart Plus membership.
And it's like my order onMonday for Greek yogurt, uh my
kind uh oats that I really like,or uh granola, sorry.
(18:18):
You know, it's like the fivestaples of healthy snacks that
in they deliver for free ifyou're over a certain amount.
It's like, I don't know, it'slike 30 bucks and they deliver
for free.
It's part of my and sure, I pay$7.99 or $8.99, whatever a
Walmart plus membership costs.
Sorry if it's way higher.
Apologize, I don't really knowwhat it costs, but that's worth
it.
You know, and this is what Ilaugh about is people will step
over dollars to pick up pennies.
(18:40):
And to me, that's like aWalmart plus membership.
Is that my time is way morevaluable being able to be at my
house closing other loops that Ican't automate versus going, I
gotta go to the grocery storenow.
Yeah, and I guess what I getthese staples every week.
So sure, I'm still gonna haveto run to the grocery store for
the times I'm like, oh, I'mgonna do a really fancy dinner
tonight, have somebody comingover, or I'm gonna go to a
friend's house, I need to go dosome of this.
(19:00):
But if you know it's a staple,and also some people like some
people like doing that.
Some people like shopping, yes,you know, laundry and household
chores.
I it it bother I it's nottherapeutic to me.
And I don't make like Iunderstand that it's therapeutic
to some people, but I've alwayssaid the moment that I had
enough cash, I would ahousekeeper.
Yeah, it just I I don't carewhat it would cost if I had the
(19:21):
capital obvious, I care what itcosts now because I can't afford
it.
But it's because I those thingsdon't de-stress me.
There's other things I wouldrather go do that I could be
de-stressing with that would beworth the cast of a cost of
having somebody do it for me.
Brad (19:35):
Um, yeah, I I really enjoy doing random, easy tasks that
fall apart instantly.
That gives me joy.
Which ones?
Shannon got a license platecover for Christmas.
Oh no.
Mm-hmm.
It says something like whatdoes it say?
Like honk if you like bananasor something, maybe is this
Savannah Banana license plate?
(19:56):
No, I can't remember.
Maybe it's floral.
I don't remember.
Maybe it's Like choosehappiness.
Uh let them choose the bananaover the floor.
I don't know what it is.
But she's like, Can you putthat put it on for me?
And I was like, Yeah, noproblem.
So I go out there.
Two screws, Phillips, go outthere with the screwdriver, go
to turn it.
Screws won't turn.
Won't turn at all.
Okay.
(20:16):
Impact.
Go out there with the impact.
Start one, uh, it spins.
Breaks loose, spins.
Okay.
We'll deal with that later.
Go to the other one, the otherone breaks loose, comes out.
Go get a pry bar, put a littlepressure on that thing.
Yep, it's gonna come out.
Nope.
Just spins.
Turns out the back of that vandoesn't have like set uh
pressure knots.
Set like license plate holes inthem.
(20:39):
It's like they drilled holesand put threaded inserts in
them.
Oh no.
And so the inserts justspinning in that hole uh to the
point where I got it smoking.
Because I don't know if youknow this, but every machine is
a smoke machine if you use itwrong enough.
Yeah, that's it, it's a real.
So that happened.
Um and she comes out and I'mlike crushing the old plate
cover thing.
(21:00):
It's like, fuck you, piece ofchef.
What are you doing?
Nothing.
Nothing.
So now she has no license platecover because I just put the
other bolt back in.
This is good.
I was like, I'm not doing thisright now.
So this thing that should havetaken me 30 seconds is now gonna
be a whole project.
And yeah, that's great.
But when it comes to workstuff, the like you said, the
(21:22):
more you can prepare ahead oftime.
Because you're like, I'm goingto run into those things all the
time.
Yes.
So I just went and installed acabinet and I said, uh, if this
goes like my morning, I'm gonnabe here for eight hours.
It's just just how it works,you know.
And it you love it when it goesthings go really smoothly.
But if you're prepared for whenit goes really poorly, that's
(21:42):
it'll go better.
Dylan (21:43):
That's the difference, is there are so many times that
people lay out plans for a bestcase scenario.
You're like, that's fine, butwhat what's our what's our
contingency plan for wheneverything falls apart?
Yeah, like plan for the worst,yeah, and then you can still
hope for the best.
Yeah, but at least you plan forthe worst case.
Yeah, so like so worst casescenario, this happens.
Brad (22:02):
What are my options?
I bring precision tools for theinstall, but don't forget to
pack the saws off.
Dylan (22:08):
Oh, you yeah, just in case it's it can be a precision
tool in the right hands, oryeah.
So I've seen some carpenters dosome carpenters, I've seen some
framers do some crazy shit withsaws off.
Where you're you're like, whatare you doing?
You're like, oh, we're planningthis top plate off so it's
level, and you're like, uh, asthey're just going, they're just
fucking going horizontal withthe saws on top of a top plate,
and they're like, they did justtake off a 16th, and and then
(22:31):
they get the they get the longboy out, and it is a dead level
wall, and you're like, Okay,time for them to go.
Brad (22:37):
That works, yeah.
But there was an an old Finnishcarpenter, and he goes, if you
don't plan accordingly, you'regonna need the saws all and you
don't want the saws all at thisstage in the building process.
That's shims, you want shims.
You want shims.
That's it.
Yeah, you want to use that, youdon't want to have to cut
things apart.
No, so it's but you have to beprepared for for all of that,
(22:58):
and some of that is is theforward thinking, so investing
in the right things, yeah.
Like take time to do drawings,take time to do extra
measurements, take time to dowhatever, and it it'll go
better.
Dylan (23:09):
Yeah, I think what you said about if you don't know
your top three three prioritiesevery day.
I think so many people livejust like moment to moment,
which is great.
And when you're in a personalera, you're outside your
profound.
It's okay when you're onvacation to live moment to
moment.
It's good, it's good to beaware.
Brad (23:23):
But even then, you you kind of give up something, yeah.
Right?
Like if you we were justtalking about vacation a little
bit, so I think next, notKyrgyzstan, but yes, Kyrgyzstan.
Maybe Colorado, Kyrgyzstan.
And it's that's how we're gonnado Kyrgyzstan.
Yeah, you might have to only doit that way.
I'm just I mean, I know it wasa one-off, somebody got
(23:45):
kidnapped, somebody got pushedoff a cliff.
You know, it was a bad guy thatgot cooked.
It was a it was a it was abeautiful ending of the story.
It wasn't even an ending.
He didn't actually die.
The guy that he pushed off thecliff?
Mm-hmm.
No shit.
I think it was in the justescaped.
They no, they thought he wasdead forever.
I think this was in the so thiswas Tommy Caldwell was in
Kyrgyzstan climbing.
I don't know if we covered thislast time, but there was a
there was a bit of a civiltussle, civil civil war, civil
(24:08):
coup.
There's a coup right there, andthey had some they had some
rebels and they just they wereup on a wall, I think, and these
guys started shooting at themon the wall.
Like, what did you guys hearthat?
Ting, ting, ting.
And it was like little piecesof rocket, and then we look
down, and there's these guysdown there that are shooting at
us at with rifles, and they'relike, get down here.
So they went down, they gotthey got kidnapped.
(24:29):
And for no reason other thanthey wanted hostages, basically.
So um, but yeah, he he ended upshoving this guy off of the
cliffside sort of when they weremoving around and they thought
he died.
And like it was either whilethey were making that Donwall
movie or slightly before thatsomething had came out um in a
article over there or something,and there was a picture of this
(24:49):
this guy, and he actually hadsurvived.
Jesus.
I mean, not not well, but he hesurvived, and it was kind of a
a big burden that was lifted offhim.
Oh, only in the fact because hethought he had killed someone,
yeah, for the last like 15years, thought he'd killed
somebody.
And rightly so, but I don'tfeel like I'd I don't feel like
I'd have been that burden.
Um I mean there's there's gottabe a little something that's
(25:13):
but he's like a super nice guytoo.
Dylan (25:15):
Yeah, that's the problem.
Brad (25:16):
Yeah, no, I guess nice guys don't finish last though.
Well, he didn't.
He did, he did.
I uh I would say the rightthing.
I I just don't want to do thatwhen we go to Kirkstan.
We're not gonna do that.
Okay, so but yeah, we'retalking about Colorado and I'm
trying to line up someactivities to do and things like
that.
So you can go and just let thewind take you.
And I think there's I hosilver.
(25:37):
I think there's some some goodto be said about uh the freedom
of taking chances when they whenthey arise.
Like, yeah, I plan this out andwe're at a we were at a
restaurant and we met somebodyand they're like, hey, we know
this really awesome thing to do.
You you want to go do that?
Okay, and then it might end upbeing just this amazing
adventure that you never wouldhave.
Dylan (25:57):
Yeah.
Brad (25:58):
And I think specifically people, like leaving room for
interactions with people thataren't planned.
I think that's where it reallyIt's meeting people, meeting
people, but then also just uhlike allowing space for those
interactions and those thosetypes of things.
But if you go there and youhave no plans, especially with
the way our brains operate, it'seasy to row, yeah, uh either
(26:19):
like do the same thing you'vealways done.
Yeah, I did this one thing onetime and it was really fun.
So I'm gonna do it like 500more times instead of trying out
some different things and newthings.
Dylan (26:28):
We've got some friends like that.
Or we go to the like we go backto the same city we were, and
they're like, dude, we had somuch fun at this bar.
We're gonna go back at 11 justlike we did last time, and we're
gonna be there till nineo'clock at night, and then we're
gonna go.
And it's gonna be exactly thesame because that's how life
works.
And you're like, um, there'sall these other cool bars and
restaurants and things to do.
We don't have to do it thatway.
Brad (26:48):
That's also the the argument I'm I'm having a little
bit is just I want to do othernew things, yeah.
And some of them, some of themwould be brand new for me, some
of them would be brand new foreverybody else in my family.
Um, but there is a you know,there's time and money
constraints and and all that, soit's working all that into Chet
GBT can figure that out foryou.
(27:08):
Yeah, yeah.
Dylan (27:09):
Here are my constraints, here are my items.
Do it.
How do you take my wife'semotions into account?
Brad (27:14):
She goes, Do we want to camp three days or four days?
I was like, Aren't you justgoing to decide this?
Yeah.
I go, what what if we break itup?
What if we go hotel, camp,hotel, home?
Yeah, we're not gonna do that.
Okay, so it's been decided.
Yes.
So so like most like mostvacations, uh, I'm gonna give
you input.
You're gonna say thank you.
I go in Frank's Nasha on this,and I'll do it my way.
(27:35):
Yep.
And yeah.
So, but I have to give a littlebit on those too because she's
good at that.
Yeah.
I mean, she's good at theplanning.
She even the the preparednessand the sharpness of she is the
person that lays her week'sworth of clothing out prior to
the week.
So Sunday night, that's what itis.
It's here's Monday, Tuesday,Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
Dylan (27:56):
She knows that?
Jesus.
I wish I had that.
Yeah.
So she knows.
That's why I just keep buyingthe same shit.
Like I just have I've juststarted really reducing.
I have like really nicewardrobes, but then like my
day-to-day wardrobe is just thesame outfit, I feel like, which
I'm okay with.
It's because my it's fine.
My stress levels in the morningare way less.
Brad (28:14):
And she has the staples, but she puts everything together
so that that's something shedoesn't think about in the
morning.
She hang it up.
Dylan (28:21):
Okay.
Brad (28:21):
So she builds it all, hangs it up, and then cool.
So it's together.
She preps her lunch for theweek.
She makes five salads.
Damn.
Does the thing.
She eats the same pretty muchthing every morning, makes the
coffee, even though she doesn'talways drink the coffee.
It's you know, there.
And that's a lot smarter thanme.
Yeah.
I I just what are you gonnahave for lunch today?
(28:42):
Uh could be I might takesomething, but I probably won't.
So maybe nothing.
Or maybe I'm having a good dayand I go have like three
margaritas.
I don't know.
There's no in between for you.
I don't know.
It's definitely not gonna behealthy either way.
Yeah.
Uh it is.
Yeah.
So those those are some So whatwas last year's goal?
Just to try to maintain likeone project at a time.
(29:03):
Is that still this year's goalthen?
I think that should always bethe goal.
It's just how to make thatconsistent so that I don't have
to think about it all the time.
Dylan (29:13):
So I started watching um this show called The Lazarus
Project.
It's on Netflix.
It's about a timekeepingorganization.
Is that the person that likehad uh Lazarus?
Brad (29:24):
Yeah, what did he have?
Leprosy?
Did he?
I don't know.
Or is that something different?
No, I can't remember.
But Lazarus, did he have theladder?
Dylan (29:32):
No, that was Jacob.
I thought that was I thoughtthat was Santa Claus.
Brad (29:34):
You don't have a ladder.
Dylan (29:35):
A rose such clatter?
Like clatter.
The no the no the North Poleladder company?
Brad (29:40):
Mm-hmm.
Dylan (29:41):
Lazarus of Bethany, the biblical friend of Jesus who is
resurrected from the dead.
Brad (29:46):
Oh what?
So there was two of them?
I don't know.
He brought them back.
Dylan (29:50):
So basically the Lazarus Project is they can turn back
time, and certain people canfeel that.
And so they work for thisorganization.
So when world-ending eventshappen, they're like the world's
actually ended like 300 times,but we have to keep turning it
back.
They turn it back and they havesecret agents that go and like
prevent it from happening.
But there was like this oneepisode where they're like
(30:11):
having a coup in like Kazakhstanor some shit, and then like
they kept turning they turned itback like 30 times in one
summer because it just keptfucking up.
And it was just yeah.
Brad (30:21):
A little bit like the uh Time Machine and the Family Guy.
Oh they they keep going to likedifferent realms, I guess.
So there's a uh remote controlthat they have, and they keep
pressing the buttons, and itjust this switches constantly
sometimes it's it's reallyminor, and sometimes it's a
major one, and what was it?
One of them switch so it was uhStewie and Brian that were
(30:44):
doing this, and then they endedup in one where the dogs were
the humans and the people wereon leashes and something else,
but yeah, it got to some weirdspots, and the the weirdest one.
Stewie was like, maybe we juststay here, like he would.
So uh a little bit like that.
Yeah, no, no time travel, man.
(31:05):
Or like the dark matter show.
Dylan (31:07):
I don't watch that.
Brad (31:07):
That's on Apple.
I don't like that's uh not timetravel, but different, what do
they call it?
Different uh universemultiverses, the multiverse.
Yes.
So wait, which one's darkmatter?
So they they build a thescientist builds a box that is
completely void of outsidesensory uh interference.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
(31:28):
And then they develop thisshot, this serum that
essentially puts your mind intosuperposition in the quantum
sense.
And so this box ends upbecoming a hallway of doors,
which is the multiverse.
Okay, and so you can walk downthis thing and go into any door
you want to, and it's anotherworld that exists, and that you
(31:50):
you may or may not exist inbecause there's an infinite
number of versions of uh that'sright.
Dylan (31:56):
He does have kids, right?
Or something like this, uhthere's all kinds.
Brad (31:59):
So so say like you had you you you had twins, and when
they were born, one of themdied, right?
So like in another multiverse,the other one doesn't die, but
then it goes even more uh minuteso that there are universes
that almost exactly mimic uh butyour dog is yours, or even
mimic it precisely up to acertain point and then changes
(32:24):
after that.
And so yeah, it gets a littlebit mind-numbing.
I'm gonna pass on the sex firsttime.
You don't you don't like it?
No, okay.
Dylan (32:30):
I don't I've been in a debate with someone recently
about uh infinity versus uhfinite, okay, and they believe
that everything lasts forever.
But I don't understand.
I that's how I don't understandeverything lasts forever.
They think that like you and I,and like yes, we die, but the
like everything keeps movingforward, and like you still have
(32:52):
some and I I've been trying todig to the root of this with
them about is this like youstill hold emotional contact or
you know, when souls move on, orwhatever, like I I'm still
trying to flesh that out.
What I've what I've what I'vestarted to realize, or what I've
I've started to gather, is thatthey just have a very hard time
with the idea of things arefinite.
And so I I can't really get ananswer out of them what they
(33:12):
mean by infinity, other thanthat we just exist forever.
Brad (33:17):
I I from the basic assumptions of physics, there is
no gaining or losing ever.
Dylan (33:24):
That's what I've talked about is like your cells will
deteriorate, go into the earth,and also go back up by something
else someday.
Brad (33:31):
But also that's standard physics, and we're learning more
and more that the universedoesn't necessarily operate
entirely on standard physics.
Dylan (33:39):
Yeah.
Brad (33:40):
Because the things that they're able to do in quantum
physics now do not make sense inthe standard physics world.
Dylan (33:45):
Once you look at it, it jumps across the room.
Brad (33:47):
Just uh I mean, yeah, all kinds of stuff.
Where the fuck did that go?
Well, they uh they recentlyfigured out basically
teleportation on a quantumlevel.
Okay, so teleportation, but notin the sense that, and this is
where the multiverse thing kindof comes in.
So not in the sense that youtake this particle and then
somehow send that particle offinto another space at a at a
(34:10):
rate that would you know exceedthe speed of light or something
like that.
It recreates that exact sameparticle in another area.
And you're like, okay, talk tome, goose.
And here's the here's thephilosophy part of it, right?
Is what you you have anidentity.
This is this is you.
Okay, well, now I justrecreated myself in a different
time space area.
(34:31):
Who's me?
Oh, we talked about this withTheseus Ship.
You rebuild it all if you like.
Yeah, but it yeah, but itdoesn't even really re- it just
replicates.
I know that's what I'm saying.
It's not you, and so there'sfrom then on, there's two of you
that exist, but you you're notthe same anymore because you're
having different experiences.
Dylan (34:47):
I don't like it.
Brad (34:47):
And that's essentially what dark matter gets to at some
point.
So I like finite.
Dylan (34:51):
Finite's nice, it's easy.
Brad (34:53):
Wrap it up in a box with a bow.
Yeah, uh, but it makes thingsbeautiful.
That's why we can't lookoutside of we gotta stay in the
box.
We need that.
What's in the box?
Don't look out there, don'tlook.
It gets too complicated outthere.
Stay in here.
I don't know.
Finite makes things beautiful.
Stay in here, cut your greentape with scissors.
Dylan (35:09):
Yeah, the big thing's recently been the the what the
rental theory where you don'tyou don't own basically
anything, you just rent it.
You might you might you'regonna die, somebody else is
gonna die.
You fucking rent this body,yeah.
You're renting this body, oryou're not behind on points.
Your kids, you're you know,it's it's a it's a rental, and
so you have to treat it that wayof that this is going to end.
(35:30):
Well, yeah, but be carefulsaying treat it like a rental.
Well, I don't well, it's notit's not gonna be the enterprise
fucking rental.
Brad (35:40):
It'd be the jackass where they bring the car back after
like a demolition derby.
Dylan (35:45):
Sign the waiver.
Brad (35:47):
Uh it was like this when I got it.
Dylan (35:51):
But yeah, you're never gonna yeah, you get it one lap
and and people annoy the shitout of you, but you can still
enjoy them.
Yeah, or you cut them out andjust say, Buck it, I'm ending it
sooner.
Brad (36:01):
That's yeah.
I I think you gotta, I mean, Ithink that's the morality of of
living is being able to reallyenjoy things without
intentionally harming yourselfor others.
Dylan (36:10):
Yeah, no, uh, I don't it's hard, it's a balance.
Brad (36:14):
It's hard.
Dylan (36:15):
So sharpness, preparedness, finding, you know,
finding that balance of gettingyourself prepared, also
allowing yourself to have somesome freestyle in there.
Brad (36:24):
Yeah, do the work before so you can have the freedom
later.
Dylan (36:26):
That's how do people draw that line though?
When's when's enough work?
You hear a lot of peoplesaying, like, well, I'll be
happy in 20 years when this allpans out.
It's like, well, yeah, spendsome time to enjoy yourself.
I'm kind of in that mode rightnow, or like I was just telling
you before this episode, I thinkmy body's told me I'm not, I'm
like, I'm not getting sick, butmy body just doesn't want to do
anything right now.
And it's I've been on marathonsince July, it feels like.
(36:47):
And I think my body's justlike, hey, you uh you just got
through Christmas and there'sreally not a lot going on, so
why don't you just chill?
Brad (36:54):
But but if I don't prepare, I find myself in that
endless loop of of workingbecause I haven't put systems
into place, and so it's justrunning running the rat race,
it's finding the systems thatwork for you, the next thing and
the next thing and the nextthing instead of it's a good
litmus test.
Putting in the work prior toand then also scheduling the
(37:17):
time to relax or be creative orhave these activities, or it's
also doing.
Dylan (37:23):
I think a lot of people spend time preparing, and I'll
say preparing in terms ofreading books, reading systems,
reading other things withoutactually putting them into
effect.
Yeah.
It's like find something thatappeals to you and just go do
it.
And it and guess what?
You you're never gonna make itperfect before you actually go
do it.
So go do it.
You're gonna find what does anddoesn't work for you really
fast, and then you can iterate.
Yeah, but it's the you find somany people who are just like,
(37:46):
Well, I'm not there yet.
I'm just grinding, I'mlearning, I'm doing it's like
just it you learn fastest bydrinking out of a water out of a
fucking fire hose because it'sjust blah, you're just like
that's that's never been a realthing.
Brad (37:58):
I don't think that makes sense at all.
It just get no just drink waterout of fire hose.
No, I think that's how youwould like blow up internal.
Yeah, but you'll you'll lasterto not do that.
Exactly.
I mean, that's one way to lookat it.
But I like I like learning bydoing well, done is done is
better than perfect.
Dylan (38:16):
Yeah, perfection is the enemy of progress.
Yes.
So go try to put some systemsin place.
Brad (38:21):
Do it first, try to put them there, and then then you
can work on it.
Dylan (38:24):
Buy that light switch that makes your life easier.
Buy that six thousand dollartoolbox I mean that has drawers,
maybe there's one ballbearings, maybe there's one at
Home Depot or Harbor or sorry,Harbor Freight.
Harbor Freight definitely hasbetter stuff, yeah.
Yeah, US General.
Brad (38:38):
Are they US General?
Dylan (38:39):
Well, they have icon now.
Brad (38:40):
Oh, they have icon now, yeah.
It's pretty sweet.
It's good shit.
I guess it's not just good.
I got a lot of harbor freight.
Dylan (38:45):
I got a lot of I got a lot of Harbor Freight shit, and
it's pretty cheap.
Yeah, it's not just cheap, someof it's good.
Yeah, so anyway, anything toend on?
Kyrgyzstan, Kyrgyzstan.
We are going to Kyrgyzstan.
It's beautiful.
Brad (38:57):
Do you know how easy this is for me?
Do you have any fucking ideahow we can do that?
I don't think it's easy.
I don't even know where it'sat.
Dylan (39:02):
You can't do this.
I really am because I wouldn'thave to find it.
Brad (39:07):
It's a long do they have airports?
Yes.
One.
Dylan (39:11):
I don't know.
Let's look it up after this.
Actually, let's just fucking doit right now.
Brad (39:16):
Camels may be involved.
All right.
Chicago to Kyrgyzstan.
Dylan (39:20):
The direct flight.
I don't think there's a I don'tthink that's how this one's
gonna work.
Something tells me we're gonnabe going through like Turkey or
some shit like that.
Brad (39:28):
All right.
Dylan (39:29):
Sorry, we were gonna end the episode.
Brad (39:31):
Sometimes the waypoints can be dangerous too.
Uh why?
I don't want to be trafficked.
Turkey's fun, man.
Dylan (39:37):
I bet a small, good-looking old man.
You would definitely not betrafficked in Turkey.
I'm Kirk.
I'm not fitting that.
Um, so they've got Bishek,they've got Tamchi, and they've
got Kork Osh three.
Which which one's the capital?
I don't even know.
No, they've got four.
I'm not that good at geography.
Brad (39:57):
Okay.
Dylan (39:58):
I'm decent, but I'm not.
You'd be Turkish Airlines,dude.
So business class on TurkishAirlines.
Brad (40:04):
You know what I think of when I think Turkish Airlines?
Dylan (40:06):
$9,000.
Yikes.
What's a what's an economyticket cost?
$1,200.
That's better.
All right.
So let's do this actually.
Let's go.
Say we want to go in April.
Brad (40:16):
Buy it.
April.
What's April weather like inKyrgyzstan?
Dylan (40:19):
Don't know.
Why is there somebody runningin my backyard?
Brad (40:21):
Um, there's a lot of people with dogs out today.
Dylan (40:23):
Oh, dude, we can get a we can get a ticket for $5,200.
That's business class.
No.
Hey man, we'll leave fromO'Hare to Istanbul.
And then we've got a two-hourlayout, dude, Istanbul airport.
Chef's kiss.
And then we got a five-hourflight to Kyrgyzstan from I
think we're going, dude.
How long to Istanbul?
Uh, that's a an 11-hour flight.
Oh, that's not bad.
No, it's fun.
It's it's beautiful airport.
(40:44):
The runway system is massivethere, and uh Denver pales in
comparison to how big the runwaysystem is.
I don't, yeah.
Anyway.
Yeah.
So Kyrgyzstan.
Um I like big runway systems.
Dude, podcasting in Kyrgyzstan?
No.
Yes.
No, they don't have electricitythere.
I'm just gonna tell everysingle We're gonna live stream,
(41:05):
do you?
Because I'm gonna have a I'mgonna have the sat phone.
No, no, no, no.
I'm gonna I'm gonna getStarlink, the roaming one.
Brad (41:11):
They don't have satellites there.
Dylan (41:12):
Okay, yeah, because satellites are.
Brad (41:14):
Wait, do you understand how satellites work?
Dylan (41:17):
All right, go fuck yourself.
I'm leaving.
Ferris (41:20):
You still here It's over.
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