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Ever found yourself questioning the very fabric of reality in our AI-infused world? That's the rabbit hole we're leaping headfirst into, as we spar with disinformation's dark arts and the genuine perplexity of artificial intelligence. Imagine a society where deep fakes make you double-take at your own memories and where the boundary between human essence and binary code is as blurred as a UFO sighting. We've rolled up our sleeves to debate these digital dilemmas, armed only with our sharpest wit and an unwavering belief in the power of critical thinking.

Join us for a whirlwind tour across a landscape of random ruminations, where we're as likely to dissect AI's future as we are to debunk a conspiracy theory or two. With our guests, we're flinging open the doors to all topics - from the Supreme Court's dynamics to the murky depths of the Titanic's true story - while keeping the mood as light as an astronaut's first spacewalk. It's not all serious business though; we meander through Hollywood trivia and the enigma of octopuses, proving that learning can indeed be a laughter-laden affair.

Rounding off this eclectic escapade, we reflect on the shifting sands of knowledge that COVID-19 has left in its wake, embracing our own tech faux pas with a chuckle. As we stumble over our podcast's email address and the digital breadcrumbs of listener feedback, we invite you to chuckle right along with us. So, if you're up for something different - where the insights pack a punch, and the chuckles are free - you've found your tribe. Hit play and let's keep the conversation as lively as a cage match with Nicolas Cage himself.
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Dylan (00:00):
On a desolate, frozen tundra surrounded by mindless,
brain numbing cold takes, twobros trek through the
nothingness to bring hope to anew generation.
You are about to experiencebrad and dylan's hot takes.
Here we go again.
Again whoa, that's how to openfucking martin yawning into the

(00:24):
microphone at 11 pm On athursday night.
Brad, how do you feel aboutthat?
I don't like it.
Take, hot takes.
This show fuck.
How do I feel about this Hottakes.

Brad (00:46):
I'm really sad to see people are disenchanted,
denialistic and depressed, andanxious and aimless and and
perverse and it's never gonnaget old.

Dylan (00:54):
Why is he sad that they're perverse?
I don't know.
Are you supposed to beperverted?
I don't know, I don't know thatit makes me sad.
Oh, he means like in anothertype of way, all right, so we
don't do this don't don't what.

(01:15):
I already know what's gonnahappen.

Martin (01:16):
No, you don't okay continue.

Dylan (01:18):
We all know that I'm struggling with figuring out if
the world is flat or not.
Oh my goodness.
Okay, let's go, let's do it,and I and now I've I've seen
these videos when they'retime-lapse stabilized cameras-
Mm-hmm and how did that go?
gimbals, I can't those.

(01:38):
I can't figure out how, the howthe world tilts like that.
If it's flat, our viewers don'tknow what we're looking at.
It's, it's.
It's how the earth actuallyrotates, because it's a.
It's a I fucking glow.
It's a I, you fucking is it.
Did they just get me again?
They got you again.
Aliens.

Martin (01:59):
Oh, you got, you got it, you get, you get, you have
aliens he's job.
Aliens got me Squeak, really,king.

Dylan (02:06):
It's been a while so are we just to the point where we
can't believe anything anymore?
No, there's always beendisinformation.
Uh, disinformation is a bigthing right now.

Martin (02:16):
Yeah there's always been disinformation.
I haven't been for the last.
Wow, seven, eight years.
Okay, so it's more than that.

Dylan (02:24):
So we talked about critical thinking a lot, yeah,
and so it used to be in inwriting or news or something
like that.
We could be like Somethingsounds a little fishy about that
.
Let's, let's go do someresearch on it now.
It's more in your guys's roomwhere you're having these deep
fakes and and voiceovers andthings like that.
Don't put this on programming.

(02:44):
It is on programming, but it'sall.
But it's also the only way tosolve it is there are people
like you Back in the 1700s youknow what?

Martin (02:52):
don't fucking point fingers at me, like I was at
nixon side.

Dylan (02:56):
Oh sorry, not the 17 1800s that said this about the
printing press.
Information's moving too fastIf you listen to the second part
.

Brad (03:07):
I didn't say it was your douche bag fault.

Dylan (03:10):
I said, the only way to really Get to the point that it
is disinformation is also,through the, the coding process,
what you think ones and zerosare gonna figure it out.
How else do you figure it out?
This just goes back to thedebate you and I had that one
time which is it are humans,ones and zeros?
Are they more than that?

(03:34):
This is not a human though thisis a video or a audio take.
Yeah, so Computers are ones andzeros.
We're not at gi, we're at ai,artificial intelligence.
And again there's a, there's a.
Ai is a very fun buzzword forwall street, right now because
it involves lots of dollarsbehind your name.
There's difference between avery sophisticated algorithm ai

(04:00):
and then gi.
Very sophisticated algorithm iswe found a very complex pattern
and we cracked the code.
We're a chess player.
Ai is we actually have somemovement within some parameters
to be able to figure out thingson our own.
And then gi is generalintelligence.
So, or nowhere near generalintelligence.

(04:21):
Yeah, that's gonna take a while.
All I'm saying is that ifsomebody you're wrong.

Brad (04:25):
Good, thank you.
Bye.
I cast over.

Dylan (04:35):
That's not how that wanted to go for you, was it?
Nope, sure wasn't continue.

Martin (04:42):
Everybody's nice.
Yeah, sorry guys.

Dylan (04:44):
My thoughts are irrelevant.
Oh oh, this is when he startsdoing the false dichotomy us
versus them.
He loves to point other peopleout, but then he gets all moody,
judy, on us moody.

Martin (04:55):
Judy, oh, I like that one.

Brad (04:57):
That's you suddenly.
I'm less.

Martin (05:00):
Moody.

Dylan (05:00):
Judy, we should get a voice modulator for that.
You should just give me thebutton, so I could push it
whenever I want.

Martin (05:10):
Cranky Frankie.
My god, okay, we're waitingwhat no, that was it, that was
it no, clearly, ai, yeah, gi,yeah, clearly.

Dylan (05:21):
This is all general intelligence algorithm.
Yeah, one zeros.
Yeah, clearly the sophisticatedalgorithm.
You could have no way of goingback in and referencing that
that was created by somebody andwasn't actually a real thing.
That's not what we were saying.
That's what you just told me,because that's the fucking point
.

Brad (05:35):
I was trying to make that.
You cut me off.

Dylan (05:37):
I was giving you distinctions.
You were broadly generalizing.

Martin (05:40):
No, I was not.

Dylan (05:41):
Abigail Shrier from last episode.

Martin (05:43):
No what.

Dylan (05:43):
So be better.
Make some distinctions, dearAbigail, continue, go for it,
say your words, be a man orwoman, whatever you want to be
push it down.
Just shut that shit.
Man.
Martin likes to say put it inyour body.
I like to say push it down inyour body, oh hey feelings?

Martin (06:09):
Okay, they don't matter.
I'm sorry, right, it's alright.

Dylan (06:14):
Are we going with all this?
I wasn't going anywhere.
We're talking about AI takingover the world.

Martin (06:19):
No, why is Martin shivering over there?

Dylan (06:21):
I'm always cold.
Hmm, I did turn the air offbecause the age packets in the
audio Can't be cold.
This is Takes.
Thank you see what you didthere.
You guys want to talk aboutChristian nationalist Supreme
Court judges.
No, okay, not today.
You don't like the earth'srotating.

Martin (06:41):
Oh, we like the earth.
Yeah, that's real.

Dylan (06:46):
Yeah, I think so, pretty sure, yeah, I think so.
Didn't the Vatican's Chiefarchivist, the, just retire and
he spilled some beans?
It wasn't like a thing thatit's flat, no, that.
Maybe they persecuted Galileo alittle too early in life.

Martin (07:05):
Galileo, Galileo.
They did that to everybody.

Dylan (07:08):
Galileo.
How much of it.
I mean those.
Those guys were the first OGsdude persecution.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, I meannot the first, but like the
smartest ones, you know.
The first kid you, you're a bitthe Vatican.
No I mean, we've establishedthis.
I'm not fucking been.
Yeah, sorry, okay, you go.
You've been the Vatican.

(07:29):
Yeah, you go there.
It's and it's it's.
Don't.
Don't get me wrong.

Martin (07:34):
It's, it's actually really small.
It's isn't weird that's, butit's also big.

Dylan (07:39):
It's small, but big.
Yeah it's weird, good really.

Martin (07:44):
Mm-hmm, really.

Dylan (07:45):
You're just a powder.

Martin (07:48):
Sip, sip your energy.

Dylan (07:49):
All I get the one I go, I go.
Hmm, this is the original mob.
This is you know, oh yeah thisis Tony Soprano sitting right in
the.
Right yeah, Hmm but then you'relike, where all this, what all
this marble come from me?
Where'd all this marble comefrom?
And they're like oh, we took itfrom the cows the Coliseum.
You're like what?

(08:10):
Like yeah, the Coliseum isdirty because they took all the
marble from it.
That's just the structureunderneath it.
Kind of books Do you think theyhave there?
where in the Vatican New Dmagazines.

Martin (08:22):
Gazine day it's.

Dylan (08:23):
I guarantee you they have the pope.
I guarantee you they are likethe Library of Congress.
They've got one of everything,and that includes Playboy 74
June.
Playboy 74 July.
Playboy 74.

Martin (08:39):
August, the.
What about that's a hot take.
What?

Dylan (08:42):
about older stuff.
Are we talking about, like Leoand Kate on the Titanic, older
or no?
Like library of?

Martin (08:50):
like painting, like one of your French girls?

Dylan (08:53):
Oh, no, french rules.
Hmm, did you guys watch theTitanic?

Martin (08:56):
Yeah, yeah, okay.

Dylan (08:57):
Oh, they have the original copy button.
Which one hot take, hot takes.
Titanic didn't sink.
Is that a real one right now?
Is that?
Is that that's, that's a hottake, a truthy, or?

Martin (09:09):
false either.
That's Brad's back here.
It's been a theory, there's atheory that?

Dylan (09:16):
well, the theory is that the boat that sank was not the
Titanic.
And what was the deep six there, like what was the whole point?
It was the what was the point?
Russia.

Martin (09:27):
No, cuz, this was my insurance 1912.
Insurance.
It's probably insurance Ponzischemes in 1912.

Dylan (09:34):
Who would?
Have thought, but it had to dowith the, you know the three
boats that were all like so wellthere that it was all the Nina.
I love it.
I love where that went.
That was good, I Wish.
That's funny yeah speaking ofthose big ships, we learned, we

(09:56):
learned about the Civil Warsubmarine the other day.
Really, yes, like we're talkinglike Nick Cage national
treasure submarine, which onewas that?
That was number one when, likethat's how the treasure got out,
what treasure?
Nick Cage national treasure?
That was not number one.
The Resolute desk.
The Resolute desk.

Martin (10:18):
Wait, no, that was that was that was to.
That had to be those number twowas it, was it?

Dylan (10:22):
Oh, it was number two so.
The Hunley book of secrets, theHunley H-u-n-l-e-y.
This is the ship name submarine.
It was named after the designer, uh short, but you know.

Martin (10:42):
Was a made of wood or steel.

Dylan (10:43):
No steel so 40 feet long.
I launched July 1863, shippedby rail to Charleston.
So it was At that point theywere.
They were barely submergedUnderwater.

(11:05):
It was more like a floaty.
It kind of looked like a log.

Martin (11:09):
Yeah cuz you gotta get more zos fumes out more.

Dylan (11:14):
Did it have a motor, if they have it's?
So I going through this when Istill look like that was Thor.
The idea of submarines has goneback to like, uh, like
1400-1500 or something like thatDaVinci, davinci for sure and
yeah, essentially they were justboats that somehow they got to

(11:36):
go.

Martin (11:37):
Guess what under the water?
You know, and they still rodethem.

Dylan (11:40):
You know what?
I guarantee it Civil War.
Submarine copy of thatblueprint, vatican, oh, mmm.
I don't know about that, cuzthey just like in 2005, 2006.
Okay, so we're jumping aheadbecause, spoiler alert it sank
three times.

Martin (12:03):
Did the recover, or they just made it, and that's so I
was a charm came from itlaunched.

Dylan (12:08):
It sank on August 29th 1863 during a test run, killed
five members.
They brought it back up October15th.
It killed a all eight members.

Martin (12:24):
It's gonna be great guys trust us, you'll watch weight
deliver it practice, love it.

Dylan (12:29):
The second time it killed the, the actual creator himself
, and then it did the segue guydied yeah segue.
Yeah, and then they actuallyput it into battle.
On February 17th of thefollowing year, attacked a 1240
ton United States Navy.

(12:50):
Screw sloop of war, screw,screw.
So that's the official screwsloop of war Jesus, which we've
been naming things wrong whichwhich is.
This is what reminded me of it,because it looks more of like
the Danic, the Nina and thePinto, and the same thing, pinto
with the pinto, where if youran into the back of it it blew

(13:11):
up.
Was it that kind of ship?
Mmm, was there?
Does a Ford I'll afford?
Yeah you can don't getrear-ended in that car I thought
it was a gremlin GMC.
Was it AMC.
Sorry, I'm see gremlin.
I don't know if they have thesame problem or not?

Brad (13:27):
Did they have?

Dylan (13:28):
red licorice on the top the roof?
Probably okay, but it sank thisthing.
So this little 40-foot boatsank this Warship, 19th century
warship, the wood warship, but,but unfortunately, where was it
fiberglass?
No, it would have been a woodenone.
Okay, everybody in thesubmarine died.
I Attempting to do this?

(13:50):
No, they did it.
They did it.

Martin (13:52):
Why didn't attempt it?

Dylan (13:53):
One of the original ones is a Kamikaze, but essentially
that's what it was.
So what they did was they kindof had like a hundred fifty
pound black powder torpedo it'sgoing to be great guys On a
stick On a stick and they justwould float up to the ship.
We're just going to ram it upyour ass.
They just float it up to theship and then, on contact, the

(14:16):
thing exploded.
What's the worst thing thatcould happen?
Well, their heads wouldbasically implode from the
shockwave.

Martin (14:25):
That's what happened, so not not good, A little bit like
a popcorn effect.
Right Hit the button.
Which one?

Brad (14:36):
I'm really sad.

Dylan (14:37):
Well, that's that's how they felt afterwards.
Hot takes, hot takes.
Yes, don't set off explosivesin a steel tube underwater While
you're in the tube.
It's not a bad idea.
I don't think they knew aboutultrasonic frequencies back then
, or just frequency general.

Martin (14:53):
They learned the hard way.

Dylan (14:54):
They gon' learn today why is their face inside of their
skull.
But somehow after Pressure it'sa weird thing it blew up, it
sank, whatever, or everybodydied and there was no one to man
it.
I don't even know if itactually sank itself.
It probably just was chillingthere, just fine, but the
internal pressure?
I'm guessing on the first twotest runs that it did sink

(15:17):
Because it was a bad design.
That's your opinion?

Martin (15:19):
I just think it's amazing they were able to bring
it back up.

Dylan (15:23):
I'm amazed that they went in a second and third time.
You think there was a choice.
No, okay, I don't, it's great.
That's like being an astronautduring or sorry, a cosmonaut
during Russia's space programback in the USSR, when they were
racing in the United Statesspace.
It's like, yes, you're innumber two.
Yes, sir, I will definitely bein number two.

(15:44):
I'm so excited to go to space.
I'm like we only killed like 25, 30 dudes, yeah, but if you win
that, like it's pretty cool.

Martin (15:54):
You know, yeah, if you're the winner.

Dylan (15:57):
So who was the first man in space?

Martin (15:59):
But like if you win at a submarine, just like I just
floated in water and I didn'tdie.

Dylan (16:03):
Brad, who's the first man in space?
That was a monkey, I didn't sayman.
I'll give you a hint Name isShai Yuli.

Martin (16:14):
Mm-hmm.
Negalnikov Shmenknov.
Oh, yuli, neguerian,urigagarian, there it is Dummy
air.

Dylan (16:26):
Okay, so how hard was that?
First man on the moon?
Not Armstrong, buzz Aldrin, itwas Armstrong.

Martin (16:34):
Oh, it was Armstrong.

Dylan (16:35):
Yeah, they were together, though no, no, no, no, no, damn
it, buzz Aldrin was.

Brad (16:40):
Wait, wait.

Dylan (16:42):
Buzz Aldrin was the second man in space.
For the United States he wasthird overall, but nobody ever
went to the moon.
Oh fuck, I forgot.

Martin (16:51):
Hot takes oh hot takes yeah.

Dylan (16:53):
Yeah, Didn't happen.
Did you ever see Eyes Wide Shut?
I'm just saying same guy whichone?

Martin (17:00):
Stanley Kubrick.
Oh, I thought you were talkingabout Cruz.
He might have been on it.

Dylan (17:05):
Are we talking about the last samurai?
Again, I might be an alien.
Oh yeah, I mean it could be.

Martin (17:11):
When he dies, he's definitely a man Because he got
his own planet.

Dylan (17:14):
He's not like when Tommy Lee is like.
Elvis isn't dead, he just wenthome, yeah.
Oh yeah, I thought you wereMollye Crue.
Aliens, tommy Lee, I didn't sayaliens, no, no, also Sorry,
never mind.

Martin (17:31):
Zing yeah.
Submarines.

Dylan (17:33):
When did Age of Death?
He died very quickly after that.
He's 34 years old.

Martin (17:40):
Who Geek Aaron?

Dylan (17:43):
Did they really go to the moon?
Who?
Russians never been to the moon.
They made it to space.
They haven't made it to themoon.
Chinese go to the moon.

Martin (17:51):
No, no who.
Recently the Japanese made itto the moon?

Dylan (17:57):
Did they?
Did they take a rover?

Martin (18:01):
Yes, how did they go?

Dylan (18:04):
India made it to space.
Japan made Sorry India made itto space.
They were the latest country togo to space that hadn't been to
space yet, and that was prettyrecent.

Martin (18:16):
But someone landed on the moon North.

Dylan (18:19):
Korea.
I thought we just, no, we justtipped one over what, or was it
us?
We just tipped over that rover.
No, yeah, we landed a rover onthe moon Just in the last three
months and it was tipped over.
Ooh, who did that?
You didn't see this.
Oh, this is fascinating.
Who did that?
I think it was the AbominableSnowman.

(18:41):
Do you know how many galaxiesthere might be?
Look at this image.
This is the guy explaining toCongress what happened.

Martin (18:52):
It's like Tommy Boy hey, let's go die while on fire.
Your brakes don't work.

Dylan (19:02):
You imagine showing up with that little guy and you're
like, okay, this is whathappened.
We came in the velocity was alittle hot on the way into
reentry and we think when thelegs gave out they know it's not
completely over because theyhave telemetry data, but it's
just slightly above horizontalor parallel.
How much does Columbia have topay to put the logo on that On

(19:26):
the side of the rover?
But yeah, they think it's.
Oh, I don't know if that'sactually a legit photo or not,
but it's definitely tipped over.
That's fake, this one?
Yeah, anytime there's foil,foil is an easy one.

Martin (19:40):
Yeah, conspiracy theories but look at how, yeah,
that's bad, that's fake.

Dylan (19:43):
Look at it, look at it.

Brad (19:44):
Look at it.

Dylan (19:49):
See how that looks like the moon.
It's not the moon.
Is that Russia?

Martin (19:53):
Yeah.

Dylan (19:54):
And you see how all of that stuff in space that is tin
foil, that's not, it's so good.
And then it tipped over and wedid not foresee that happening.
It'll probably bring COVID 2.0back home.
And when it tipped over, itmade me really sad.

Brad (20:12):
I'm really sad, really sad .

Martin (20:18):
So, that's exciting.
Moral of the story kids Don'tgo to space.

Brad (20:21):
Don't go to space?
Yeah, would you go to space?

Dylan (20:24):
No, would you go to space ?
I would go to space before Iwould get in a submarine.

Brad (20:28):
You and I are on the same page, not going in a fucking
submarine.

Dylan (20:32):
No, I had a yeah.
Do you know what could be inspace Aliens Avatar?
Do you know what are for sureunderwater?

Brad (20:41):
Landmines.

Dylan (20:42):
Ooh, well, they're not landmines if they're in water.

Martin (20:45):
Water mines Okay.

Dylan (20:48):
There's definitely aliens underwater.
Ooh, hot tanks, octopuses arealiens.
Yeah, it seems fair, that's allthat, that one got.
Semi-scientifically proven.
All of that one got.
What about jellyfish?
No, because octopuses don'tOctopi.

Martin (21:06):
Yeah, it's octopi.

Dylan (21:08):
Learn to speak Latin, you .
Why not octa cake?
Uneducated fuck, oh boy.
Why not octasufle?

Brad (21:20):
Because there's no egg.

Dylan (21:22):
What is it that they?
There is some unknown originDNA in them.
Are we talking about your son?

Brad (21:29):
or are we talking about no ?

Dylan (21:30):
no, no, no, Ze Yikes.
Okay, so now we're going totalk about the alabama thing.

Martin (21:35):
No, we're not segwayed quite yet.

Dylan (21:39):
All right, I'm not done with this one yet.
All right, that's what I'veheard.
You didn't let Martin answersubmarine or?

Martin (21:47):
Oh no, Space is good.
I'm going to go with spaceBungie jump or skydive.

Dylan (21:51):
Skydive.

Martin (21:54):
Skydive yeah.

Dylan (21:55):
Okay.

Martin (21:55):
Okay.

Dylan (21:58):
Go to space.
You have to hang out in thespace station for a week, dude,
once you're in space, like, oh,mm-mm, mm-mm, I'm Strap me to
that rocket.

Brad (22:09):
I will.
That's not how that works.

Dylan (22:10):
I will do the dangerous thing, which is go up there.
You're not a fucking Tesla.
But the moment, the moment Iget to the space station, I want
to peek my head in for fiveseconds and go cool, did it.
And then I want to get back onthe ship and I want to go
straight back to Earth.
If you told me I hang out onthat space station for a week,

(22:31):
hmm, that's no bueno for me.
I don't know if I'd do wellwith that.
I would not do well at thespace station.
I feel like I'd throw up thewhole time.
I think as long as long as thatlittle rocket ship was moving
towards, whatever I was going to, I'd be good.
I'd be like, ok, we're makingprogress, we're going to throw
up on that too.
Yeah, no, I would throw up inthe space station because I

(22:53):
would just be so mad to find outthat the world was not flat.
Damn it.
Oh, they got me again.
Octopuses are aliens, or atleast so vastly different in
their genetic makeup that theymight as well be considered out
of this world.
Hmm, those do.
They mapped the first genome,octopus genome project.

Martin (23:19):
As of when.

Dylan (23:24):
Don't make me do things.
Why research Chromebook boy?
Oh, 2024 Island Bay MarineEducation Center.
Hmm, she say mammogram center.
Oxpuses have 33,000 genes,roughly 10,000 more than a human
.
Seems legit.

Martin (23:40):
And you've seen those things slip through a crack
that's like like a dime size?

Dylan (23:44):
Have you seen them camouflage themselves from one
instant to the next?
No, you really.
Yeah, I have.
They're amazing.
Look at me.
Hmm, I'm well read and they'resmart.
And did you know that they Idon't know if this is true for
all of the species.
Let's say, you're, you'reswimming in some reefs and you
see some of the smaller ones,they only live for a year.

(24:04):
Yes, this is true.
That's wild.
Hmm, think of, think of theshit that is in their DNA that
allows them to do all of thethings they do, and they only
live for a year.
Yeah, the instincts built in,so you say programmed.
Yeah, Drogenically programmedAliens, eugenics, genics.
I think of an eye camouflage.

(24:28):
Can we talk about some really,really pressing things in this
world right now?
Hot takes Great Hit it.
Nick Cage has an Academy Awardfor what?
Leaving Las Vegas 1996.
As he should.
It was fantastic, that was, butif you showed your DNA you

(24:51):
would have been a real genius.
That was what if you showedyour children a Nick Cage movie
that wasn't leaving Las Vegasand you said that he has the
creme de la creme of actingawards.
Bullshit, face off.
Hmm.

Martin (25:07):
I heard they're going to face off to Connair Put the
bunny back.
But what's the bees one?
What's the bees one?
He was also in the rock.

Dylan (25:18):
Oh, the rocks.

Martin (25:19):
So there's a Amazing.

Dylan (25:21):
So there's a, there's a whole like conspiracy theory or
yeah, I take that Spirits Hottakes that Sean Connery is
actually.
So there's a there's a long gamethere 007, james Bond.
They give James Bond 007 to thenew guy and it's, it's not just

(25:43):
one person.
James Bond is an amalgamationof many guys, and that because
in the rock he alludes to thefact that he was at my six at
one point.
He's retired, he's his ownthing.
So it's when the Sean ConneryJames Bond is retired, he goes
off and does his own thing andhe becomes Nick Cage's mentor in

(26:06):
the rock, like so he was.
He was James Bond and it's anextension of the James Bond.
And then Nick Cage goes on to beJames Bond, james Bond and the
franchise, and he wins anotherAcademy Award.
He doesn't, but he does go onto make National Treasure, which
is Archie.

Brad (26:27):
Lee.

Dylan (26:28):
Bond S it's a lot of this .
It's a lot of same tactics.
Who's the girl in last or?

Martin (26:38):
Lady Las.

Dylan (26:38):
Vegas no National Treasure.
Oh yeah, she is God.
What is it?
She's cutie.
I can't remember the name.
You better tell it right now.
Tell it to me, I'm looking fora hurry up.
Abigail Chase Diane Krueger.

Martin (26:58):
Diane Krueger.
I knew it was a K Krueger.
I knew it was a.
What else is?

Dylan (27:02):
she in?
Um, I was a real Elizabeth Shoefan Back in the day.
Oh, you've talked about thiswith me.
No, I haven't miss you.
Oh, you don't know.
You're probably in a robotchicken too.
Why was she in it?
No, yes, she was.
Oh, I did like robot chickenfor a brief minute, yeah no, but

(27:27):
that like that movie, inparticular like her as sex
worker.

Martin (27:33):
Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about leaving Las
Vegas.

Dylan (27:36):
Oh, I can't remember that movie at all, mmm.
Yeah, nick Cage couldn't either, cuz he was drunk the whole
time.

Martin (27:42):
Oh god, really played the part.

Dylan (27:43):
You know, that's a terribly sad movie.
I don't remember it, justkidding, it was a comedy.
What was a comedy?
Leaving Las Vegas, was it?
It was sad.
Spoiler alert he never left.
I fucking died there.

Martin (28:00):
Oh, alcoholic why did I do that like that?

Dylan (28:03):
What cuz?
It's like 40 years old, 96?
.
Don't project your old manvibes on me.
I mean it's pretty old.
Maybe you know who's not everaged.
Hot takes Steven Segel.

Brad (28:19):
Still, still has it still has it.

Dylan (28:21):
Oh my god, dude, I see the videos of him all the time
just dude sucks, taking kidsdown left and right.
Yeah, what's the video wherehe's dancing?
Oh my, he's like fight dancingoh well, tom Segura remade that.
What did you not see that?
Oh, I did, yeah, okay amazing.

(28:42):
Well, bert made the fat manFacing video.
And then Tom Segura did, didthat where he he took off the.

Martin (28:54):
Plate Steven.
Oh my goodness, what's going onin that one?
Oh right, why is this?

Dylan (29:00):
Guys gone in 60 seconds.
Mmm yeah, great documentary.
Guy that goes undercover justto help his brother out.
What Nick Cage goes undercover?
Yeah, he returns to a life ofcrime.

Martin (29:14):
I hope it's not undercover.

Dylan (29:16):
It was undercover because he had to go undercover,
otherwise the cops were gonnaknow what he was up to.
How is he undercover?
He was incognito.
Did you even watch that movie?
Yeah, a million times.
He threw baking soda on thefucking skillet he was making to
make sure that the grease firedidn't go.

Martin (29:33):
Pretty sure you start my gun in 60 seconds of grease
fire big rig.

Dylan (29:38):
Is that your big rig wrecker?

Martin (29:39):
out there.

Dylan (29:39):
I like the best the best line in the movie yeah, exactly
that's what I'm talking about.
Don't come at me.
But yeah, that's my big ringwrecker, I'm just just dragged.
You gotta go truck drivingschool.
This is Russian dancing andit's so bad.
How does he not just have itthis?

(30:00):
Look at this.
Oh, how was this guy ever takenseriously?
What?
What is the martial arts thathe practices?
I, I, don't is it I keto?

Martin (30:12):
He's an I keto guy I keto Say karate, that's about
the family man guys.

Dylan (30:18):
He's in so many good movies.
I Mean under siege, not StevenSeagal.

Martin (30:27):
Is there a receipt?

Dylan (30:30):
So, martin, oh growing up Nicholas.

Martin (30:32):
Cage.
Oh, you're talking about Nick.
I thought you were.

Dylan (30:36):
Was there any predominant martial arts in your family or
anywhere near you?
Was there over a movement forany of the old?
I poke.

Martin (30:46):
II yeah, but the throat yeah, I Just kickbox in kickbox
in Muay Thai, mm-hmm.

Dylan (30:55):
Yeah, what is that?
Don't get anywhere near theirfucking legs.
No, it's like a horse.
You just don't walk behind ahorse because you just gonna get
smoked.
That's shit scares.
What the tie I Watched.
I watched a video the other dayof this girl that was Like fake
kicking.

(31:15):
So she would extend her leglike she would kick you like
around waist height, mm-hmm, andthen just snap it right at head
height like you imagine thatyou'd be like huh, and then
you're just out cold.
Dude, I don't like that andnobody wins unless somebody goes
down right Muay Thai.

Martin (31:34):
Yeah, I've been to has to be outright winner, right,
and but they'll stop it, butthere has to be like an outright
winner.
I've been to live fights and IMean when, when they make
connections, it's like andthey're doing this nice smelling
sauce after which you're like,and then oh, I have some.

Dylan (31:53):
You want some really dude yeah is it good?
Though.
No, it's not good.
Oh, this isn't gonna be good.
I, oh, no, that hurt.
You know you don't like thesmelling salts.
No, why not?
You get used to it Boom.

Martin (32:08):
I mean no, I mean he's done?

Dylan (32:10):
I mean, like, are they?
Is it like a good, like potentone?
Have you ever done them?
Mm-hmm, oh my god, have youdone them?
We're gonna do that in upcomingepisode, okay.
Do you know what cat pisssmells like?
Oh yeah, multiply it by like athousand.

(32:30):
My sister bought that house.
No, I'm, it is just.
Have you ever had horse radishor your nose?

Brad (32:38):
bridge.

Dylan (32:38):
Yeah, so combine cat piss .
Horse radish is Intenses youcan think of.
Okay, that's what smelling.
So I can't, I can't think ofthe intensity.
Okay, because I've not done it.
What horse radish?
No, no, no, no.
Horse Raraj.

Martin (32:55):
If you take wasabi, same thing, hmm.

Brad (32:57):
It's.

Dylan (32:58):
It's like saying have you ever been punched in the face?
Yeah, okay, imaginately.
Imaginately imagine itinfinitely hard.

Martin (33:05):
Yeah, I can't do that, I'm not practice.

Dylan (33:07):
No, we're not.
We're talking about hittingpeople in the face.
Can practice?
Practice hitting people in theface?
Yeah, and then when you get inthe face, you know what you feel
like.

Brad (33:16):
I'm really sad, yes.

Dylan (33:19):
I.
I'm really sad you don't likeit.
You ever who I ever ever punchanyone in the face.
Hot takes.
Kids need to fight more.
You're not wrong theydefinitely need to scrap more.
I think if more kids got Hottakes hit in the face, they'd be

(33:40):
great by kids.
Yeah yeah by by other kids.
Oh, it's not cool when we do it.
No, okay, no, no.
Then we just talk about like Idon't want to fight like a Muay
Thai fighter, oh, no, no, I wantto fight like some other.
You know, almost crippled, 40year old, yeah, that would be.
That would be fair.
So it Kids, kids need to fightkids.

(34:04):
I guess learning violence at ayounger age so they don't want
to use it when you're older,there's probably better.
I think there's yeah.
Plus, you gotta learn to be themonster at a young age.
God, here we go, here we go.
If you're not monster, thenyou're gonna feel hot takes, hot
, hot takes no really sad,really sad, disenchanted.

(34:24):
Yeah.

Brad (34:24):
I was too can depressed and anxious and aimless, and and
perverse and vengeful.

Dylan (34:29):
Yeah, you just, if you were just a monster, you
wouldn't feel those things, youknow, and you feel happy and be
happy that you're the monsterand you contain it.
Yeah unless you can't, you gota punch, jimmy, in the face, it
might solve you Some problems.

(34:50):
No therapy beating the shit outof each other at a young age
and what else wait yeah?

Martin (34:58):
what are?

Dylan (34:58):
cigarettes gonna help?
No, no, no, okay, no, let'sagree on that.
But there's, there's a, there'sa bunch of things.
The problem is, you know, likethey frown on experimenting,
like you know things that couldpotentially be bad for you, even
though they might be good foryou even though what?

(35:19):
Even though they might be goodfor you.
Yeah, I mean, just like theModerna vaccine.
I'm just saying I've lost a lotof weight and I'm getting kind
of jacked since I've had thevaccine.
So I'm right there with you.

Martin (35:34):
Actually, if I look at my, I lost routine.

Dylan (35:36):
Yeah, yeah.
So I Was gonna jab myself asmany times they told me I didn't
care.
They're like your DNA is gonnachange.
I'm like Listen, the poison Iput my body were way past that.

Martin (35:47):
But the nurse had.
The nurse had to take theneedle away from hit me up.

Dylan (35:51):
Oh, you wanted it.
Yeah, I was just like she's,like there's nothing left in
there.
I want my note card to be.
You fall, You're going throughcustoms, you're like stamp it
again stamp it again.
I the only reason I say that isto me I I went to Mexico last

(36:16):
week and I had my passport and Istill have my vaccine card in
there, because couple years agoI went to Canada and they're
still requiring it and I totallyhad forgotten about it and I
pulled it out.
I'm just sat there and giggled.
It's a note card.
Yeah, I V yeah, and it's like my, then the vaccine number, or

(36:37):
like the dope, not the dose, thebatch number, yeah, and it's
like and then the date and thenthe signature of the farm, is
which clearly no one really,really this is this is this is
the best we could do bang yeahthat's going to get me in the
country, and it was actually asreal as the vaccine itself.
Oh, thank you Sorry.

(37:00):
Thank you very much.

Brad (37:02):
I.

Dylan (37:03):
Allegedly saltwater.

Martin (37:05):
Here's a hot takes.

Dylan (37:08):
What we did in response to that was absolutely correct.
We didn't know what was coming.
We didn't know what washappening.
It was the subsequent effectsafterwards where we maybe tried
to hold on to some, some itemsand it was like, oh no, it's
still really bad, guys, it'sreally really bad.
You're like well, the hospitalshave cleared up a little bit.
Maybe we don't need to be superprotective.

Martin (37:26):
Are we talking about?

Dylan (37:27):
Israel and Gaza.
Yeah right now, but hindsightswing we've, hindsight is 20-20,
but we disenfranchise ourselvesfor if something was never
happened again.
I think?
I Think we are really fucked ifsomething very serious comes,
because everyone's gonna be like, yeah, you guys really blew
this last one out of proportionand fuck you, dude, we're not

(37:49):
gonna do it, fuck you again, I'mnot gonna do a goddamn thing.
Same Harris was talking aboutthat really early on.
Like you can't.
He was still.
I mean, he was very much of thepoint where it's like I'm
playing this overly safe.
I'm gonna play this overly safe, I was all.
And then he would talk topathologists who are in a lab
setting and they deal with theDeadliest things on earth on a

(38:12):
daily basis.
That's their job.
And so they come on and theystart talking about COVID and
they're like it's not you knowis it harmful?
Yes, does it kill some people?
Yes, but it's.
This is not like a, a gamechanger.
You know, because they'redealing with things, that
there's a perfect out.
There's a perfect relationshipbetween Contagion or

(38:33):
contagiousness, or yes, anddeath.
If it's highly deadie, deadly,it cannot be that contagious
because it can't spread thatfast because the host die so
fast.
It can be based on where it'sreleased, at where it's released
.
But but yes, the the moredeadly it is and the faster it

(38:54):
is it killing you, the lesslikely it is to spread.

Martin (38:59):
But, you're talking about Ebola.
I mean, it was like yeah yeah,but what?

Dylan (39:05):
what he was saying was this.
This is actually a aninteresting take on how we would
respond to.
Oh, absolutely, if somethingthat was or so fucked for the
that was mid-range where it's,it, doesn't kill you right away,
it, maybe it's a one weekresponse.
And it has plenty of time totrain and he goes this, this is

(39:25):
not like it.
At what death rate do peopleFigure out that?
Okay, when we have to act likereally seriously about this?
And then is it, is it too late?
So no, yeah, I think probablyfucked, and Don't again.
The immediate response totallyunderstand, we had no idea it

(39:47):
and Spanish flu was the previousone, that's 19.
What would you say earlier,1916, 1918, you know?

Martin (39:55):
I was like put it in your body.
That was the.
That was what happens.

Dylan (39:58):
That was the previous one .
So there's no institutionalknowledge in terms of maybe a
few people live through it butthey're not cognizant enough to
tell us what it really was like.
And also the medical knowledgehas changed so much so nobody
knew how to deal with it.
It's like, okay, we're not surewhat's happening, let's do
these few things.
But then, as we went through it, it was the lack of Propriety

(40:23):
To say you know what?
maybe we can just start peelingsome of these things back,
because we seem to be okay rightnow.
It's it's not the bestsituation, but can I not wash
the outside of my groceries whenI bring them home?

Martin (40:37):
I mean Lysol man, lysol stock.
The initial understanding ofthat was correct, but obviously,
as we held on for a long time,we learned more about that
situation.
That was like not even neededwhat, and I had a thought.

Dylan (40:52):
I forgot about it.
Yeah, that's what I call it.
Do you?
Hot takes hilarious?
Was I a COVID?
I can't remember.
Did you?
When did you get COVID?
I never got it.
You never got it.
Yeah never, I know you know whoelse never got it?
Who finance bro Chris Crone?

(41:13):
Oh, because he willed it.
Yeah, because he just said Idon't have it.
You know who else didn't get it?
Everybody that never got testedto have it, hmm, didn't get it.
That's why I never got it.
I don't believe in testing.
You know, I don't believe inany of it.
I don't believe in math tests.
I'm believing pregnancy tests.
Yeah, we're so getting kickedoff.
Buzz bro.
I don't believe in.

(41:34):
Are we even here right now?
Are we just in our own heads?
I don't believe in a machine.
Mike checks, do we do it?

Martin (41:42):
Mike check.
I don't like any of it.

Dylan (41:43):
No, no, I like fuck it.
We'll do it live.
We did do it live.
That's what I like.
By the way, have you guys everread lamb the gospel?
According to Biff, christ,childhood pal.

Martin (41:56):
No, it's a really good.

Dylan (41:57):
It's really good book what?
Yeah, no, it's who's Biff.
Is he from Back to the Future?
No, biff is.
Biff is a god.
He's an unknown disciple.
I mean he's a disciple but he'sjust like a low-level guy in
the gospel.
Oh but uh, it's a.
It's written by ChristopherMoore.
It's a satire on Jesus's life.

(42:17):
It's and me coming fromCatholic school.
It's fucking hilarious becausehe does a fantastic job of like.
Yeah, I was.
I was all in until youmentioned it was sat fire.
I thought this was real thing.

Martin (42:29):
So okay, I'm not interested anymore.

Dylan (42:32):
Levi bar Alfeas was Biff, he was one of the disciples
According to According to thegospel oh, one of the 12.
Yeah, so I'll give you thequick premise who's all 12?
I'll give you the premise.
Don't ask me.
Are we talking?

Martin (42:48):
about reindeer.

Dylan (42:48):
We're talking about gospel, no, or disciples
reindeer, make up a song for the12 disciples.
No, I can't do it.
Okay, so it's fair.
Yeah, we're ever gonna get intoit, so you guys should do the
tune of the Rudolph though.
So all I'm gonna say is thatJesus goes looking for the three

(43:10):
wise men that came to visit himUnder the star Bethlehem that
seems like it'd be hard.
He was a fucking funny babyit's that would be like me going
to search for it when he was ababy.
He did it.
The whole point of this book,do you not know?
No, he was a baby when theyvisited him.
Yeah, it's the whole point.

(43:32):
That's why it's difficult.
Oh, so the premise of the bookis that Jesus goes missing for
the first 32 years of his life.
From the moment he was born tothe first time you really see
him in action in the gospel islike Late 20s, early 30s.

Martin (43:50):
I mean it was a carpenter.

Dylan (43:52):
Well, he made shitty furniture, so they put him away.
Sorry, brad, this is based onthis book.
It's based on you.
Optics, and now I feel you suckat this really sad.
It's just fun to be delayed foryou I.

Martin (44:15):
Don't like those same way yeah.

Dylan (44:17):
Well, you started this dumb podcast About practice.
Speaking of practice, what myemail work?
Why wouldn't it?

Brad (44:27):
because I emailed myself today.
I didn't get it.

Dylan (44:32):
Bar check that Bar check everybody's everybody's been
writing us and we're not amarketing.
D Mark and D Kim are working.

Brad (44:38):
So I don't know it's not Give.

Dylan (44:41):
Give him the.
Give him the address again.
You, what?
What's the address?
I don't know why.
All right, terribly oblivious,yeah, hi, what is it?
Oh, you don't know.
This is how this show works.

(45:05):
We just meaningly no.
First I give you correctinformation and then you tell me
not to give out my correctinformation, and then you give
me false information.
Oh, it's hello at.
Terribly on, oblivious, calm.
Okay, give the right password.
If it is that, I give everyoneyour password if it is that, I
don't.
Yes, I.

(45:25):
Do three ABC ABC you're gonnahave to check yours what.
What am I checking?
I don't know, because I didn'tgo to mine so if you guys want
to leave comments on anything?
Don't, because we don't fuckingsee him, so Bye you're still
here.

Martin (45:46):
It's over, go home.

Dylan (45:55):
Oh.
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