February 16, 2024 • 51 mins
Ever found yourself questioning the essence of existence with a dose of humor to sweeten the existential dread? That's where we begin our latest episode, tiptoeing through the absurdities of life and the poignant reality of cancer's touch on us all. We trade quips and share heartfelt stories about coaching youth basketball, confronting the beast of cancer, and the therapeutic role laughter plays in the face of adversity. It's a genuine blend of levity and gravity, with anecdotes that'll have you nodding in agreement and chuckling at the ridiculousness we all navigate.
We then jump into the deep end of pet ownership, where our guest sheds light on the complexities surrounding dog breeding and adoption. From the uproar over the labradoodle's creation to the overlooked plight of less fortunate pups, we cover it all. Our exchange may ruffle some feathers as we question the ethics behind breeding, the online personas of our furry friends, and why our hearts often ache more for animals than humans. But don't worry, we keep it balanced with humor, because what could be funnier than imagining our social media ruled by dog profiles?
The episode takes an introspective turn as we confront the inevitable farewells we bid to our pets, drawing parallels to the delicate subject of assisted suicide. From the emotional decisions at the vet's office to Switzerland's stance on the right to die, we navigate these tender waters with care and thought-provoking insight. And because life isn't all somber, we wrap up with a nod to the delightful British custom of high tea—because who wouldn't want a bit of charm and champagne to brighten their day? Join us on this journey that swings from the solemn to the spirited, and everywhere in between.
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Brad (00:00):
On a desolate, frozen tundra surrounded by mindless,
brain numbing cold takes, twobros trek through the
nothingness to bring hope to anew generation.
You are about to experiencebrad and dylan's hot takes.
Here we go again.
Dylan (00:18):
Again, trifecta number three.
That doesn't mean anything toall listeners.
That's great.
Brad (00:25):
I like to start off the worst of this remember,
everything we do is just killingtime, until time kills us.
Dylan (00:35):
I wish you did until we meet again.
I wish you would do Petersoninstead.
Oh.
Brad (00:43):
Okay, so whenever I do Peterson, I just have to start
channeling kermit.
Kermit (00:48):
Okay you know and Like, the really hard part about being
alive is just knowing thateverything we do is just killing
damn time, until the time comesand it kills us.
Dylan (01:06):
You have to do skeletor is it good?
You have to do skeletor as.
Kermit (01:11):
George Peterson I love it.
Now on I love it.
Brad (01:14):
Okay, we'll end with them.
We'll end with one.
Dylan (01:17):
Yes, that's not gonna be near, as that's a hell of a way
to start an episode.
Hell of a way to end an episode.
Yeah, okay, I don't know how westill have listeners at this
point, though.
All right, because ourmaterials been shit.
Brad (01:28):
Uh, we're just really good grass, spinach, straws oh yeah,
that too, that's fine.
Okay, welcome to another hottakes, hot, takes, hot and loose
.
I need to get that I need toget that.
Kermit (01:41):
I need to get the fast allowed.
Dylan (01:44):
I'm with Ben Stiller again, again.
No midi button.
Yeah, why not?
I don't really like it.
You don't like our intro?
No, do you want me to redo it?
No, okay.
Brad (01:56):
Yeah, we'll redo it someday.
Dylan (01:57):
Okay, maybe when we get a legit engineer.
Brad (02:00):
Yeah, I.
I'm just sad because I didn'thave Chick-fil-A sauce tonight.
Dylan (02:05):
I have, I have.
Brad (02:05):
Chick-fil-A sauce.
Yeah, I was angry coming inhere though.
Dylan (02:10):
Yeah, let's go with that.
Brad (02:12):
Uh, they should have been two weeks ago.
It was episode.
By the way, not angry, I'mgetting good at this time
continuing.
Dylan (02:17):
Great Good for you, okay, continue.
Brad (02:20):
Great, I likened teaching teaching teaching is a heavy
word Coordinating youthbasketball.
It's like trying to teach Catshow to jump rope.
Dylan (02:36):
Okay, yeah, they don't have thumbs.
How do they hold the rope?
That's a problem, yeah.
Kermit (02:41):
Yeah.
Brad (02:44):
It's it's a lot happening and it seems you know like a Not
terribly hard task to do, butlet me guess they just keep
running around and meowing.
Dylan (02:58):
And what's?
Uh, what's the modern?
What's the modern Modern youthcat meow sound like nowadays.
Brad (03:05):
Oh, oh, I thought we were talking about cats.
Jump roping Okay, yeah, um, no,the same, okay, I don't think.
I don't think the dialect getstrendy until middle school.
That's a fascinating, and rightnow it is bra Bra, that's so
(03:27):
mid bra.
Dylan (03:29):
What the fuck is mid, mid , just not good, just middle of
the pack.
Yeah, you're just mid.
That's what they say.
Yeah, what did I, what did wesay?
What was your guys's term?
Kermit (03:42):
Okay.
Dylan (03:43):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think we were that Uh.
Brad (03:50):
I don't what.
Dylan (03:51):
Yeah, I mean, there was some, and we're probably gonna
have like cove at 19 and allthese like gender phobia, elicit
or explicit Tags all over ourpockets now, because you just
said that what that used to beyour guys's term for mid.
I don't know it was really ahell of a drug?
Brad (04:13):
Yeah, it is.
What was my, what was my takefor today?
Dylan (04:18):
I don't know what your take is.
I don't write the hot takes you.
What's yours?
You haven't had any in likeweeks.
No, I'm not really that angrywith the world.
Oh boy, I mean I'm really angrywith the world.
But I had a.
I had a really Interestingcircumstance happened to me the
past few weeks, so I've been ina.
It could always be worse mode,so I've been very grateful and
(04:40):
gracious wow.
Gratitude all around.
Good for you.
Yeah, I guess I guess my hottake is fuck cancer.
Yeah, it's, it's, I think it'sprobably my hot take.
I think there's a lot of peoplethat that have been affected by
it and it just it really kindof hits home when it I shouldn't
say it hits, that's, that's aredundant.
(05:01):
It really Excess rebates itselfwhen it, when it, when it hits
so close to home about reallywhat the meaning of fuck cancer
is and it's, it's detrimental.
It really is because it ittakes.
And it's not that all sicknessisn't all that, life isn't
precious at every stage, butit's just a destroyer out of
(05:24):
nowhere you know you get.
Brad (05:25):
You can get used to a lot of things, but cancer never
really grows on you.
Dylan (05:30):
It grows in.
Brad (05:31):
You've been on on it.
Yeah, I get it.
Dylan (05:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is my coping mechanism.
Humor, yeah, mine too.
Wow, I know you didn't get myprism the other day.
Kermit (05:41):
So it doesn't matter cuz I thought it was spectrum.
Dylan (05:43):
I thought it was drinking , but oh no, there's a lot of
that too.
Kermit (05:47):
Okay.
Dylan (05:47):
Okay, that's fair.
And if my lawyer ever askedthis, was my real voice.
Brad (05:52):
Like you, don't do a good job at this.
Do what hot takes.
Dylan (05:56):
Fuck cancer, that's my hot.
Brad (05:57):
That's not a hot take.
No one is gonna stand up anddisagree with you and like no,
that's a good thing, so we needmore cancer in our lives.
Dylan (06:07):
I Mean if I was possibly controversial if I was a CFO,
ceo, c-suite level vicepresident exact for striker I
would be all for cancer, okaywhat is they?
Make a lot of money on people.
What if?
Yeah, hear me out.
Striker's a med rep company, bythe way.
(06:28):
This is their medical devices.
This is my brain amongst themany things.
My brain working in new ways.
Okay.
Brad (06:35):
What if cancer is a Gateway to god?
Is a genetic evolution that weare mishandling.
Dylan (06:43):
I mean it really is because we're not carrying it,
so we are mishandling it.
I, yeah, I don't mean carryingit you walked into that one
asshole.
Brad (06:52):
Maybe.
Yeah, by the way, I don't thinkthat's what it is.
I know, I'm just saying likeyou've just ostracized.
Yeah, you're, you're.
You're just like, uh, kill itwith chemicals.
And then you know, little tinybaby Jesus is up there just
being like, no, you're supposedto do this, do it, it'll change
your whole life.
Dylan (07:14):
You know, yeah, cherubs would be the cherubs or the
angels.
Brad (07:19):
Uh, because, cherubs aren't angels.
Dylan (07:21):
I don't think I thought cherubs were fat babies.
They are, but they have wings.
I don't know, there's adifference.
I don't weird, I know.
Brad (07:27):
Um uh, do you think angels would be cute or scary?
Dylan (07:32):
Scary Mmm.
Yeah, not a chance in hell.
There I saw a fun one the otherday which was even the devil's
not atheist.
His job is to make you one.
That one was.
I thought that was goodmarketing.
Kermit (07:46):
That's his job.
Dylan (07:47):
That was a good line.
That's his job.
That was a good line.
I was like that's good, welldone, that's good.
Someone in your marketingdepartment did well.
Brad (07:55):
Well done, lucifer, you won.
Dylan (08:00):
Probably a nice guy.
Brad (08:06):
So we're just going back to again.
You don't have.
Dylan (08:08):
I have a lot of hot takes .
You don't have any.
Brad (08:10):
I got a good job though, so I have to be careful you
don't have any hot takes.
No, do you know how many dogsare euthanized every year?
Approximately Mmm.
The shelter animals, 20% Ofwhat.
Dylan (08:31):
Whatever the number of dogs and shelters are.
Brad (08:33):
Who knows what that number is?
Dylan (08:36):
Don't come to me with bullshit numbers.
Come to me with stats.
I have a stat, Okay give me thestat 400,000.
Wow Is that a lot Seems like alot.
Brad (08:49):
How much space?
Is that?
Cats and dogs?
No, it's just dogs, dogs.
Cats are only slightly higher,about 500,000.
Dylan (08:56):
They breed faster.
Brad (08:57):
They have bunnies, do they kill?
Dylan (08:58):
bunnies too.
Brad (09:01):
Yeah, probably.
Okay, bunnies fuck like rabbits, so they're repopulated.
Dylan (09:08):
That should be a bumper sticker.
Word.
That should be a bumper sticker.
Brad (09:12):
Also, cats do a really good job of killing themselves.
I feel like there's a littlebit of natural selection there.
Yeah, I feel like if anotheranimal was going to do murder,
suicide, it'd be a cat.
I think no, yeah, I mean theyjust murk like a bunny and then
run out in the street and gethit by a car.
Dylan (09:35):
I can't believe what.
Kermit (09:35):
I just did.
Dylan (09:38):
It's possible, why?
That's why that is so funny,because my cats, because cats
are crazy.
That's exactly how they woulddo it.
Annie would be like last meal Ineed cheese puffs and then
we'll move on.
Brad (09:51):
Yeah, yeah, so that's a fair amount of dogs dead.
So my hot take was that if youdecide that you need to breed
dogs, that you get to just keepall those dogs.
Dylan (10:11):
The ones.
If you breed dogs and you givethem the good loving homes, it's
not necessary right now.
Oh, I see where you're going.
You're one of those peoplethat's anti dog breeders, and
everyone should get sheltereddogs instead.
Brad (10:27):
Up to the point where you don't need to do that anymore.
Dylan (10:31):
Okay, and then my counter argument is the ones doing it
legally aren't the problem.
It's the fucking puppy millsthat are causing the issue.
So the people living inside theconfines of the kennel clubs
and everything else are going tobe punished because there's
criminals other places doing badthings that are making this
(10:52):
problem happen?
No, that's what you're saying,oh, no, okay, so people that
legally breed dogs and livewithin the confines of what is
ethical breeding are going to bepunished because they should
just have to keep them all?
Kermit (11:06):
Yeah.
Dylan (11:07):
Okay, yeah, and that the problem is systemically there is
because it's not the wrong term.
How is it their problem thatother people are doing it puppy
mill style and causing thismassive influx of dogs in the
shelters?
Brad (11:25):
It's not just puppy mills Okay.
Dylan (11:28):
It's also irresponsible owners.
So I don't agree.
I don't agree with the pet coand the glass wall where you get
the kids hearts beating towardsanimal.
So, for example, the dogs thatmy family has adopted from
proper breeders.
You have to go and you have toget vetted as a family, okay,
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and then they will say no ifthey don't feel like you're a
good fit for what their animalsare.
And sometimes they say yes, orthey say yes probably more than
no, but they have the right torefuse.
Kermit (12:02):
Okay.
Brad (12:04):
As do shelters Okay.
So yeah, I'm interested in that, yes, stringent Okay, probably
based on the typical cockapoobringer.
Okay, maybe.
Dylan (12:16):
I have no idea, I don't know either.
But why you're punishing peoplethat do a responsible job
because others are irresponsible.
Brad (12:25):
Yeah, you know why?
Why?
Dylan (12:29):
Because everybody doesn't want your fucking dog.
But why am I?
As if they're not creating aninflux in the system?
And those dogs live withfamilies until they're old and
die.
What's the problem with that?
I think your hot take isinvalid.
Kermit (12:44):
You don't like it.
Dylan (12:45):
I mean it's fine, I like debate.
Brad (12:51):
What about, like?
Dogs are part of your family?
Yeah, yeah so, but we can'tsell kids.
Dylan (13:02):
I mean you can, if you're way fair, oh sure, we're going
to get sued.
Kermit (13:06):
I forgot about that.
Yeah, we're going to have towork out the way fair might come
after us.
Brad (13:12):
That wasn't directly with them.
No, it was through them.
Dylan (13:15):
Sorry, way fair.
I apologize.
You were just a medium fortransport.
Brad (13:20):
That was that was I forgot about that $69,000 locker.
So it's, it's some of thatwhere it's like they, we keep
selling like don't make me sayno no, it goes.
Dylan (13:36):
It goes back to the three hours, the reduced, the reuse,
and you can't recycle the dog,but it's, it is.
What are we doing?
Brad (13:44):
I'm a little nervous.
Dylan (13:45):
There's a little bit of consumerism with it.
That's and a little bit is thewrong term.
It's yeah and yes, there aresome ethical dilemmas there of
why do we keep a lot of itAllowing people to buy Frenchies
, this mass product?
Yes, I'm not a big Frenchie fan.
I think they're cute, but Iwould never want one.
Brad (14:05):
They can't breathe.
People it is they can't breathe.
Dylan (14:09):
I mean, you just think about they're genetically
mutated to not have good.
Brad (14:12):
You're breeding a thing in the wrong, Like Darwin is like
no, that's not the fucking rightway.
You guys are going opposite.
Dylan (14:24):
Could have said that about COVID too.
Brad (14:27):
What.
Dylan (14:29):
What Sheard mentality Say it, that's fine.
Brad (14:34):
That's, that's all.
But also there's there's peoplethat.
Dylan (14:40):
I mean when I, when I get a dog because I can't have one
right now because I just like to, just I'm.
I'm a free spirit, I like to gowith the wind, and that's not
nice to the dog.
Brad (14:51):
I love dogs more than anything.
I will.
Dylan (14:53):
I will get a purebred lab .
Brad (14:56):
Why.
Dylan (14:57):
Because, because, why?
Because, when I get that niceoil painting of me and it and
all tweed on the top of mymantle.
It's going to look beautiful.
Okay, both my labs arebeautiful.
I mean, one just tries toattack me all the time.
Brad (15:09):
He doesn't.
Kermit (15:10):
In a loving way.
Dylan (15:10):
Yeah yeah, he's fine.
He's got lumps on his shoulders.
He dumb, it's not going to lookgood in the oil painting.
Brad (15:16):
He doesn't have lumps on his shoulders.
Dylan (15:18):
Okay.
Brad (15:19):
Fuck you.
Dylan (15:20):
I'm a little ill proportioned, can't win the.
Brad (15:23):
He is a beautiful boy, can't?
Dylan (15:25):
Can't win Best in Show with ill proportions, don't know
he has a fuck about Best inShow.
Brad (15:30):
No, you're right, nobody does Nobody important.
Anyways, I love that movie butthere are people that have they
have breeds.
That the problem is when peopletake like a working breed and
you get an anomaly and they'relike such a good house dog, we
should have puppies.
But the puppies come out likethey're supposed to and they're
(15:56):
fucking maniacs.
Kermit (15:59):
And they're like I don't know what happened Like yeah,
you had a bad one.
Brad (16:06):
It's not normal and bad meaning it was good based on
what you thought was good.
So Now you got this shithappens.
Oh, I forgot about this guyAlso.
People should have to.
Benjamin Button dogs.
Dylan (16:23):
What do you mean?
Should have to?
How do you?
How do you, benjamin Button,you just create a genetic
anomaly on your own way.
Yeah.
Brad (16:30):
Yeah, like you got you, you have to.
If I had unlimited space andtime, I would adopt only
geriatric dogs, I think I thinkthey have the most love to give,
but everybody gets sucked in bythe puppies.
That's what I mean.
Like you should have to get adog based on oh yeah, so end of
life.
Dylan (16:50):
So this is it.
This is an interesting article.
It's back from 2019.
It's the Guardian for anyone.
I'm not going to post it in thecomments so that you guys can
vet it, but you can look it upyourself.
The man who invented the goldendoodle says that that is his
(17:11):
life's biggest regret WallyConron.
He said he created aFrankenstein monster and I
forgot about this because I'veread this before.
But he regrets it because it'sbecome so popular and to your
point, there's a ruthlessbreeding where people are doing
it for big dollars but they aregenetic mutation that has
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serious mental health andhereditary problems, and so what
you don't see because breedersknow this is they know kind of
early on if there's a runt orsome issues and you just never
see that dog again.
That puppy again, and then allof a sudden, when you get there,
there's five cute ones.
You're like oh, this is great,this is a beautiful litter.
(17:57):
You don't see the four thatmight have maybe had issues,
because they go bye-bye.
Are you saying they shouldn'tgo bye-bye?
I'm not saying they shouldn't,but you just killed half of them
.
Brad (18:07):
Also, that guy sounds a lot like the guy that also
invented Bud Light Lime.
Dylan (18:12):
So I like that beer.
Brad (18:13):
Yeah, that's my hot take Bud Light Lime is great Genetic
anomaly that became insanelypopular, created some monsters.
Dylan (18:24):
Created some monsters, it's.
You know it's good.
You just get off the bike, yougo into the bar and you're just
like hey, give me a six pack ofBud Light Lime and you're gonna
be shot in the wall?
Brad (18:34):
I do not know that scenario at all.
Oh, I don't.
I've never ridden a bike to abar.
Kermit (18:40):
Have I?
No, I have not.
Brad (18:43):
Have you ridden a B-S-C-L-A?
Nope, okay, tipped over amotorcycle once, so.
Dylan (18:48):
I could see you being that guy like.
Brad (18:50):
Tipped over a motorcycle.
Dylan (18:52):
Yeah, fucking weak.
Is that a?
You've never seen that movieeither.
It doesn't matter what Pee WeeHerman, american Graffiti.
Oh yeah, I've seen that one,yeah, when he rolls up on his
moped and he knocks it overright off the bat, that's you it
yeah, nice Vespa it is, it'sfine.
Vespa's are pretty cool.
Brad (19:16):
Do people use dogs as part of their identity?
Dylan (19:20):
Oh yeah, my ex-girlfriend has a social media account.
What's that say about me?
It's all devoted to her dog andthat's to get likes, because
her profile can't get likes.
Brad (19:27):
Yeah, I only post dogs on my work page.
You have a work page?
Yeah, oh, good for you.
Nobody cares about my work, butthey like dogs.
Dylan (19:36):
I'm gonna bleep that last part out about my ex-girlfriend
.
I don't like talking about myexes like that, I'm sorry.
Brad (19:41):
Okay, well, now you gotta bleep that part out too.
That's fine, great.
Also, I don't like.
I would prefer people's petshave Instagram profiles over
them.
100%.
I like them, yeah.
No, if they're authentic.
Dylan (20:00):
Actually this is a good rule.
I don't like rules.
I don't either.
I don't like.
But how about this first socialexperiment?
Okay, you don't get to haveyour own social media until you
do in animals social media, okay, and that you can prove to a
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board that it didn't get wildand out of control and
self-centered and it actuallyprovided some value.
And that could be based onvarious metrics, one being
letting people around you knowwhat's going on, consumerism,
growth, just making sure thoseproducts get sold, et cetera.
Brad (20:40):
And now I feel like.
I feel like that's why youshould only have the pets,
because it is hard to get out ofcontrol.
Dylan (20:48):
That's what I'm saying.
Brad (20:51):
I don't see a lot of people's pet accounts talking
about politics.
That's what I'm saying.
Dylan (20:56):
That's what I'm saying.
A bunch of Frenchies.
There's the battle of theFrenchies.
You got Make America.
You got Make America.
Great dog sweaters over here,and then you've got Biden's.
Brad (21:07):
It's Biden economics over here on the left, it's all
Frenchies, but they're allwearing the fucking neon
reflective vest.
Dylan (21:12):
Oh that's embarrassed.
When is it?
When is pride in New York Cityonly going to be dogs?
It is only dogs on a float,yeah.
You're right, that's a waybetter.
America right there.
Brad (21:26):
I don't.
Dylan (21:26):
I don't hate it, I.
Why do we?
Why do we have more compassionfor animals than we do for other
humans?
That's my hot take Cause.
I absolutely have morecompassion for animals than I do
other humans, I believe my dadhas taught me a few things in
this life.
Brad (21:47):
Okay, One was why don't you have a watch on your wedding
day?
Dylan (21:53):
That's I watch is an important day as a or something
that's big in my family.
Okay, so that's no I.
That's why I'm agreeing withyou.
Brad (22:01):
Yeah, that was news to me, because I was unaware of it
apparently.
Kermit (22:04):
So did he get you a watch?
No, he did not.
He just slapped you.
Brad (22:06):
He was just like why the fuck aren't you wearing a watch?
And I was like I don't have one.
Dylan (22:10):
I thought you were the guy that was supposed to teach
me dad why didn't you do it?
Before this I don't know,that's fun Actually, that's just
that's more on your dad than itis on you.
Brad (22:18):
Yeah, never pick up a hitchhiker, unless it's a woman
and a child.
Okay, I'm doing some moviesthat make me question that
theory Now salt burn.
No, I haven't watched that oneyet.
I haven't either, but I'm.
Dylan (22:32):
But then you can't just it's our podcast, that you can
do whatever we want.
Brad (22:38):
But the other one was it's easier to shoot a human than it
is to shoot a dog.
Dylan (22:46):
Did you have experience?
Brad (22:47):
in this, let's say allegedly Okay.
Dylan (22:49):
All right, allegedly.
Brad (22:51):
So and yeah.
Well, you could even putparameters on that.
Kermit (22:58):
Okay.
Brad (22:59):
So it's easier to shoot a bad person than it is a good dog
.
Dylan (23:04):
Yes.
Brad (23:05):
See, you just go down that continuum.
You're like oh yeah, you startat the top and everyone's like
yep, check, yeah, no problems.
But Dogs, they love youunconditionally.
Yeah, unless it's the ones thatbuy you, then you just don't.
(23:27):
Then they're just your exhusband that they still loves
you.
They just don't understand youthey just don't.
Dylan (23:32):
They just don't know how to express their love other than
their fists, yeah well.
Brad (23:36):
Jesus, yeah, everything, everything is a nail.
I guess Maslowe's thank you forruining my dog analogy.
Yeah, we'll start doing theseby myself okay.
I'd love for you to put this alltogether.
I can't do it.
(23:57):
It just may be pressing abutton.
How do I get this thing to turnon?
But yeah, there it's.
I don't know.
It's hard and great having dogs.
I know a lot of people thatlose dogs and they're like never
again.
I'll never go through thatagain.
That was the hardest thing I'veever had to do.
(24:18):
It's like, if you're done, franJesus, no, yeah.
Dylan (24:28):
But to me it's always so.
We're so.
Where do you fall into that?
So this is a friend, if we'regonna know, if we're gonna do
the dog conversation.
This is always the fun one ofhow long do you let them live
and how long do you Know, as youcan see dogs start to spiral.
Oh yeah, what's?
Where's the ethical boundaryfor you when it comes to Take
(24:52):
him out of their misery versuslet them live as long as
possible?
Because I've seen so sneezing.
I've seen some, I've seen bothsides, I've seen some people
where I'm like that might be alittle premature excessive
sneeze and then I've seen somepeople where I'm like you are
making them suffer just becauseyou don't have the emotional
capacity.
Brad (25:10):
I see that plenty.
Which side?
Dylan (25:13):
the second part, the emotional capacity to deal with
the proper thing to do.
Yeah, yeah I.
Brad (25:20):
Get it blind, deaf, can't walk, urinates everywhere.
Dylan (25:24):
Mm-hmm, but they're so happy.
Look at them, you're like what?
Where you talking?
How, in what world?
Brad (25:31):
do you live in when you think that's me and an afterlife
doesn't exist?
I'm gonna fucking figure outhow to make one so I can come
back.
Yeah, exactly, in some.
Dylan (25:39):
I will in some way shape or form right now.
Brad (25:41):
Guess what, guess what dogs that only bite people.
That's what they were in aprevious life.
Kermit (25:48):
Mm-hmm.
Oh, that's my hot take that'sgood.
Dylan (25:52):
Yeah, that's good.
Brad (25:53):
Kujo, he was a miniature poodle.
Mm-hmm, that was left too long.
Dylan (25:59):
Okay, yeah, and then he came back.
Yeah, he had a lot to live upto you know the reckoning.
I'm not gonna be well whenAnnie goes down, yeah, but I'll
do it.
I'll do it.
Brad (26:12):
Yeah, cats, I mean I'm not going to catch a little,
definitely going to put her inthe room.
Of what room?
Okay.
Dylan (26:22):
You're gonna go?
Brad (26:22):
in there.
Dylan (26:23):
Yeah, I'm not okay.
Brad (26:24):
Yeah.
Kermit (26:25):
I'm.
Brad (26:27):
I have a hard time with those people too.
Dylan (26:29):
What?
Just you're watching themsuffer so over there?
Brad (26:31):
No, they know like the people that are like I'm not
going.
Oh, I have a problem with thattoo, or the.
So there's very there's I'm nottaking them, or I'm just gonna
drop them off at the door, orthere's.
There's different levels to it,you know that's and that's.
I remember when we moved we hada like an Irish setter mix.
(26:56):
It's my dad's dog, yeah.
Dylan (26:59):
I think that's.
Brad (27:00):
I got.
Maybe I'll talk about thattherapy next time.
Okay, that's a good one, yeah.
Dylan (27:05):
I like that we write down our hot takes and our therapy.
Brad (27:10):
I was, like always connected to dogs growing up,
and this one was an outside dog.
Kermit (27:17):
Mm-hmm so.
Brad (27:17):
I had a pen and a kennel doghouse and then we had a stray
that walked up one day.
So years after I mean I was, Idon't know, six or seven
something like that Previous hadhad this other dog for Probably
since I was a baby or so, yep,and always been outside.
(27:38):
And then the stray walks in andshe's like a spaniel mix,
smaller, and all of a sudden,like she gets to live in the
house, she gets table scraps andshe gets to poop in the grass
and not on concrete, so, butnear the end of his life so that
was when I was closer to 12 ish, something like that I started
(28:02):
hanging around him a lot moreand before we moved we were
moving to a house that wassingle story, to a like a split
for whatever, and he wasn'tgonna be able to do steps and I
mean he was like falling downjust trying to walk around the
yard and All that stuff.
And so my dad took him and hadit put down before we actually
(28:23):
moved out of the house.
Oh, he didn't really tell Me atleast.
I mean, he probably told otherpeople, I think, but I was.
I remember being pissed that,like I didn't get to go with him
.
So yeah, I always did that you,I don't.
Dylan (28:47):
If you wanted, if you're going to enjoy the good times,
you have to be there, for yougot to share the pain.
You do, you do and I don't.
I've had some instances whenI've talked to people into it
which was well, they're so fargone, I don't even know if
(29:07):
they're gonna know I'm there,you know I and they.
They tell themselves lies whichis Well, I don't want to
remember.
Well, this way, actually, onedrives me up a wall is I don't
want to remember them this way,like it's no, no, no, no.
If they, if they, provided thatmuch joy to you, yeah, you
(29:28):
don't get to cop out the lastsecond, you selfish bastard,
because Hot take, hot take thatno it does that.
This one drives me.
And I do understand if you havesuch an insufficient capacity or
capability emotionally to beable to deal with that, then
(29:51):
those are your problems.
But you're not going to.
You're not going to Diminish orreduce the joy that someone can
have at the end of their lifebecause you don't have the
facilities to do it.
That's on you to figure it out.
Yeah, I, I.
It is no excuse for you to be acoward at the end of somebody
else's life when, even if theyaren't quote unquote with it,
(30:16):
you can't say that you'represent, you don't.
You can't say with certaintythat your presence isn't a good
thing for them, right, and nowyou're taking away something
from them at the end of theirlife, when they've provided so
much joy to you.
You're not willing to return inkind.
Brad (30:31):
That's gonna be like when I'm on my deathbed and I'm not
coherent and you're standingnext to me.
Dylan (30:38):
I'm gonna be sitting in the back of my head with a
coloring book drawing on yourchest.
Brad (30:43):
I can't respond, but I'm just like.
Dylan (30:45):
I wish this motherfucker wasn't in the room right now I
gotta go out like this I amgoing to be Indian style on your
lap, drawing a paint my number.
Actually, I'm going to bepainting a paint my numbers on
your chest.
Great, and Shannon's gonna belike what are you doing?
I'll be like I love it, yeah.
Brad (31:04):
That's, that's nice the world I.
Dylan (31:08):
I don't know, I've just I've I had a friend that was
like, oh, I can't go see my, mygrandma, that way.
I'm like, no, you're going toget in the car and you're going
to drive and go see her, yeah.
And then they did.
And then they called andthanked me afterwards because I
said you know what that actuallywas necessary.
Brad (31:26):
Yeah, uh, I feel like I have a harder time with people
than dogs.
Dylan (31:32):
And that's fine.
Brad (31:33):
So what's that Say it Means you're weak.
I don't know.
I think it's a fear factorabout?
Dylan (31:45):
Do you switch places with them?
Are you imagine if it's you?
Brad (31:49):
Yeah, I mean you like imagine yourself being in that.
You know just like I want toWant to do that, and there's
also some of that, yeah, so Iguess the way people talk about
dogs is the way I talk aboutpeople sometimes.
Dylan (32:07):
Big softie.
No, the other way.
Brad (32:09):
Yeah, put him down, just like I want to remember him that
way.
It's not the same All that,yeah.
Dylan (32:19):
Yeah, you kind of get a choice with the dog, don't you A
little bit?
You don't get a choice withyour significant others.
Man, maybe that's.
Yeah it's different, though.
How do we feel about that,kvorkian?
Brad (32:32):
Well, that's what it always leads into.
It's like how can I be sohumane to this animal?
Dylan (32:39):
Yeah.
Brad (32:39):
But if this was my dad?
Dylan (32:42):
Does anyone allow medical euthanasia?
Is Switzerland.
Brad (32:48):
There's a real fine line between that too, because I've
been present for some of thoseand they're like, oh yeah, we
gave them some more morphine.
It's like, well, that justkills them.
They're like, oh, it slowstheir heart rate down.
It's like, how is thisdifferent?
It's because this is OK to givethem, like, this is an
(33:09):
acceptable drug to give them,even though that is essentially
what stops their heart.
In the end, there gets to be apoint where.
You're really splitting hairs.
Dylan (33:18):
Terminal cancer.
You get so much pain towardsthe end where they just keep
microdosing in terms of a littlebit at a time, where they keep,
but they keep bumping, bumping.
Brad (33:28):
Yeah.
Dylan (33:29):
And then eventually you're like your heart just
stops.
I've been around for a hospicenurse to come in when somebody
had just died and they werelooking at the pain meds.
And because they have to takeall the pain meds out of the
house because they're allnarcotics and that's one of
their jobs as a hospice nurse isto make sure that those don't
(33:50):
fall into the wrong hands,because or the right hands or
the right hands Maybe a couplehundred dollars did get passed
around.
I don't know, but I rememberthem putting it in their bag,
which then they soak with waterand then they garbage disposal
it.
But they looked at the bag andthey looked at everyone.
They're like seriously, this iswhat he was on.
(34:13):
How is he not dead before this?
Yeah, they're like.
I've been in this industry fora long time.
Kermit (34:21):
And then John Mayer started playing.
Your body is a wonderland.
Dylan (34:25):
We might want to study.
We might want to study.
Kermit (34:28):
Yeah.
Dylan (34:29):
But it is funny to you.
It's something I guess I'veeven thought about that way,
yeah, we won't kill you, we'lljust do it in another way
without calling it killing you.
Brad (34:40):
Yeah, you're in a weakened state and you, at that point,
most likely are at end of life.
We're just going to give it alittle nudge, just so it's not
prolonged.
We're like well, ok but why dowe get to decide that now and
not two weeks ago or four weeksago, or if we do it in another?
Dylan (35:03):
lens Jesus Christ.
Termination of life on requestand assisted suicide.
Act of 2001 permits doctors toprescribe drugs for
self-administration.
The individual involved must beat least 12 years old and
parental consent is required forthose aged 12 to 16.
Brad (35:20):
Only 16?
.
Kermit (35:25):
Yeah, but they're 18 there, oh yeah.
Dylan (35:27):
So Switzerland, but also oh, swiss criminal code of 1942
permitted adults to assist inother suicide, as long as the
motor for doing so was notselfish.
Can you imagine being in acourt of law and trying to
identify what's selfish?
Nope, that sounds veryopen-ended.
Brad (35:49):
What was that Swiss yeah.
Kermit (35:51):
Yeah.
Brad (35:52):
That's right.
No, I'm for it.
Dylan (35:56):
Assisted suicide is lawful, irrespective of the
condition of the person whoacqui-.
Oh, you can just do it inSwitzerland.
Apparently.
That says a lot about howprobably happy that country is,
or what resources they have.
They're like yeah well, letanyone do it if they really want
to do it, because we don't havea problem.
Brad (36:16):
With what.
Dylan (36:18):
I don't know.
Let's look it up, let's look itup, let's look it up.
Brad (36:22):
So happiness rates they haven't been to war for a while.
Dylan (36:27):
It's because everyone's really afraid of them.
Are they, do you not under?
No, they're completelysurrounded by mountains.
They have fake houses in themiddle of their country that are
like missile sites.
The whole country's a militia.
Brad (36:41):
I thought they were neutral.
Dylan (36:42):
They are.
But the whole point of Hitlerdidn't go at them because you
would have to go through themountains and he knew that they
would.
They have hidden bunkerseverywhere and he knew they
would decimate him.
That's, they have a for theirfortress of a country.
That's why they're neutral.
Brad (36:56):
I Thought it was because of the leader hosin.
Dylan (37:01):
Oh no.
Do they make it out of silk, ordo they make it out of calf
skin?
Brad (37:05):
I don't know, I Thought the Germans are just like I like
your style.
We're gonna leave you alone.
No it was because of all thepasses they'd have to go.
Do they have missiles back then?
No it was just the geographyyeah because they've well.
Dylan (37:22):
So pre all this you don't quote me exactly on this but
pre all the Neutrality they gotin a couple they've getting some
skirmishes and nobody was ableto ever make the pass.
So there was like I'm just notgonna, just not gonna do that.
Brad (37:36):
Was it like?
Was it Belgium, that theGermans were trying to go
through and they flooded?
The country but they had theBelgium.
This was World War one, I think, and the Schlieffen plan the
Germans were like we're justgonna pass through here.
Dylan (37:50):
Yeah, no, it was supposed to be.
It was supposed to be two weekstops.
Brad (37:54):
Yeah, they're like, we're just gonna pass through and Then
the those TORRIT gunner.
Dylan (37:59):
Like they had that little fake wall.
That was a wall.
Brad (38:02):
Well, belgium had.
They flooded the forts, yeah,from Previous, so like they were
impenetrable from cannon fire.
Yeah, and they stacked bodiesBecause they would just machine
gun from these like in groundforts.
Yeah, and the Germans werecoming after them and they just
(38:22):
stacked to the point where theywere shooting holes through
walls of bodies to shoot theother bodies yeah but, they
still lost then Germany was likehey, by the way, on this train
we have the biggest artillerygun we've ever made.
And they brought a couple.
Dylan (38:41):
It took two weeks to get there.
Brad (38:42):
It's gonna take a while because we have to pour a
concrete pad so that we can putit on it.
Yeah, but one we're gonna fuckyour world, and then they did.
Dylan (38:50):
Yeah, that's where the term shell shot comes from
everyone.
I don't know if anyone knowsthat.
Yeah, it's from the bigartillery Um, huge, the guns
were in that.
Shells were just falling oneveryone, whether, whatever side
you were on, and you justEverywhere, everywhere and
nonstop.
Brad (39:05):
Yeah, you know, look up that.
Oh my stats, when I mean of howmany, Dan Carlin goes into that
of how many shells go off.
That is wild, it's insane.
Dylan (39:15):
You're like okay.
So like literally for 22 hoursof my day I'm just expected to
have a shell hit me.
Like you, imagine the constantstate of anxiety.
Brad (39:25):
I mean, what are?
I can't remember what some ofthe Numbers are off of, like
what they would release in a day, but just think it's thousands.
So if you're going all day long, just a man, what's?
I don't.
I'm looking at thousands,hundreds of explosions an hour,
(39:49):
at least Major explosionsheaviest shell used during World
War one was thirty one hundredpounds.
Dylan (39:58):
It was French, by the way .
Oh, that was one shell.
Brad (40:01):
Yeah, that's a Volkswagen.
Dylan (40:08):
Yeah, yeah, that is a Volkswagen.
Brad (40:09):
Yeah, and then they're just falling, like like a little
shelter cats and dogs theBritish used thirty three point
five million shells in May of1917 holy shit.
Three and a half million in amonth.
Dylan (40:25):
Yeah, that's so hundred.
Brad (40:28):
Thousand a day.
Dylan (40:29):
Oh my god.
Brad (40:31):
How do you even calculate?
How do you even have that manyguns to shoot that many?
Kermit (40:36):
Oh.
Brad (40:40):
With that.
No, that wouldn't includeaircraft.
So three point five.
Dylan (40:46):
I weird, there's three hundred three point five.
Oh yeah he's got the calculatorout the bus guy 31 days.
Brad (40:51):
Let's go in deep divided by 24 hours.
Dylan (40:55):
Well, now you're just dividing forty seven hundred An
hour, an hour for a month.
Sir watching Masters of Air onApple TV.
That's the sub-banner brother.
You know better brothers.
Yeah, tom Hanks does Masters ofthe air, which is the.
The bombers that Flew out ofthe UK over Europe did all the,
(41:18):
and so the bombers had a veryhigh death rate because they got
.
They got shot down.
I mean the Luftwaffe, theLuftwaffe was pretty effective.
Brad (41:27):
Well, my grandpa was shot down.
Was he, did he survive?
Yes, good for using to be 17.
Kermit (41:33):
Yeah, where do you?
Brad (41:33):
end.
They got shot down over, that'sthat or mom's dad, my dad's dad
.
Dylan (41:41):
That's cool.
I mean not not at the time Ihave to go back and look
Specifically.
Brad (41:47):
I don't know if they were into Was he part of the 100.
Germany.
Oh God, make me think of thenumber was he?
Dylan (41:55):
what was he on the airplane on the B17?
Brad (41:58):
Typically he was tailgunner.
But he was tailgunner that thatspecific day he was on the
waist, mmm.
Oh, he was down in the in the.
No, no, no, no, no.
The waist gunner of the side,oh he was off one of the sides.
Okay, but yeah, they got.
They got hit by.
It wasn't machine gun fire, butit was lack.
No, it was.
I have the bullet one that'slike it.
(42:18):
That came from the Germanplanes and I Think a couple of
them died in there.
There was a fire from hydraulicfluid.
Kermit (42:30):
Mm-hmm.
Brad (42:30):
So the plane was basically on fire and a couple of them
died.
The rest of them jumped outyour grandpa jumped out.
Dylan (42:38):
Good for him.
It's a wild show because butthey were captured by Germans
like oh, Basically after theylanded so and then they were
able to escape.
Brad (42:49):
Good, oh yeah, stephen McQueen style.
Yeah, basically they werecaptured and then they were kind
of put into a holding facilitywhich was a barn, yep, and then
they're just kind of moseying onout.
Yeah, then they were basicallymoving to another site and they
(43:11):
started getting strafed byAllied planes because they saw a
big convoy of Germans.
Yeah, not knowing that therewas also.
Dylan (43:18):
Hey man, pmws in there.
Hey man, I'm down here too.
Brad (43:21):
And yeah.
So chaos ensued and everybodySplit.
They just basically ran.
Damn Into the woods, that'swild, and then they were several
days just.
I mean very much like savingPrivate Ryan, where they're just
kind of wandering through thewilderness until they find their
way back to they're in theirtowards France.
So Damn.
Dylan (43:44):
I bet that felt like an adventure A little bit, a little
bit A little bit ofHobbit-esque Lord of the Rings.
Brad (43:50):
I bet it was something later in his.
He was always what is it I wantto say he was 108th bomb group.
I might be wrong I got Was heflying out of England?
Yeah, that was their mainairspace.
I mean to that point the show,just yeah.
Dylan (44:07):
It's interesting because one of the guys shows the first
episode.
One of the guys from thissquadron, or whatever it is,
shows up before the rest of themand he gets to go up on two
missions beforehand.
Okay, and it's.
And you know, they're back inthe States.
They're all Jovial like, oh,save some of the Nazis.
For me it's like all that toughguy Machismo.
(44:29):
And then the guy gets on theground after his first mission
without the rest of his squadronand he's like, is it always
like this?
And they're like, that one waseasy and it was just like
straight chaos.
You know, bull holes throughthe window, flak coming through
the plane, and the captain ofthe airplane looks at the plane
(44:51):
and he's like, oh, I'm going toget out of here.
The captain of the airplanelooks at him and he goes don't
tell your guys.
And he's like, what he goes,they'll figure it out, but don't
tell your guys.
And so then when he's and he'sthe executive commander, so he's
the ground commander and he's apilot, but he's in charge of
(45:14):
the whole squadron, and whenthey come over, his best friend
is a major, they're both majors,but his best friend's a major
as well.
And they go up and his bestfriend gets on the ground.
He's like why did you fuck?
It's helping.
And he was like what were yougoing to do?
And it was like now you know,so let's just move on.
It was wild.
Brad (45:33):
It's crazy to 487th, 487th .
Dylan (45:36):
What was their?
Brad (45:36):
bomb group.
Dylan (45:38):
I think that's in the show and I had the 487th, I
think.
Like six of the eight went downin the original like in the
first episode.
Oh really, I mean they keptlike refilling on.
Brad (45:56):
Oh yeah, well, that was the.
Did you ever see the movie theMemphis Bell?
That was unrepeated in hishouse.
Aggressive, he was into it forsure.
But anyways, years later so itwas kind of before like his
(46:16):
health started declining, theywould go to bomb group reunions
every year.
We got to go to.
The last one was in San Diego,the way we went to Okay.
And it's one of those thingsit's you know, every year you go
and every year there's lesspeople that are alive to go, and
the people would always sendhim articles or new research or
(46:39):
things that come out about thewar.
That's what interests you thinkabout World War II is just the
amount of shit that happened andthe stories that you still are
coming out.
Dylan (46:49):
Well, that's the um, the Ungeneral Warfare movie that Guy
Ritchie is doing right now WithHenry Cavill and, yeah, it's
basically the first guerrillawarfare.
I don't want to say the firstguerrilla warfare, it's like the
first what they I think the SAScame out of this team
essentially.
Brad (47:07):
Okay.
Dylan (47:08):
It was a kind of a it's a true story A non-traditional
story.
It was a non-traditionalsoldier that had been in a lot
of trouble beforehand.
And the guy that brings them inis, like everyone thinks you're
unsavory and that's why I thinkyou're savory.
Yeah, and it's like, oh, thankyou, sir.
And he's like, well, you're notgoing to like the guy that I
want?
Yeah, and then they go overbehind enemy lines and they do.
(47:31):
It's kind of like in GloriousBastards.
Right, it's non-tradi.
You know, we have no choice.
We, the Germans, aren't playingfair, so we're not going to
play fair.
Yeah, but of course, guyRitchie's a fucking genius, but
the Ministry of UngenuinelyWarfare.
Brad (47:47):
Oh, okay, yeah, looks really good Check that out.
But yeah, much, much later inlife someone had sent him an
article that came from that timeperiod and the barn that they
had been held in.
So this was something that theyobviously used.
There was probably a transporttype system and so that was a
(48:11):
holding facility essentiallythat they would use on a regular
basis.
Like weeks or months later thatbarn was torched with people.
Oh no, yeah, like what was that?
Mel Gibson or the Patriot,whatever?
Dylan (48:29):
Yeah, the church Like that style.
It took his wife.
Brad (48:34):
So that was a yeah, he had .
He talked about that a lot.
Well, that was a pretty bigstory.
So right down to as he wasparachuting, so like his
parachutes open, he's floatingand a German fighter is flying
at him and he wrote in like oneof his little memoirs he was
(48:57):
like he could have shot me, likecould have just shot me out of
the air, not a problem.
He's like didn't do it.
So he's like I think that guy alot, so most Germans wanted to
kill, wanted to kill a lot ofGermans, but also you don't get
(49:20):
that cool badge on your airplanewhen you shoot down somebody in
a parachute, though.
No, probably not.
No, no, but also that's kind ofyour job.
Dylan (49:31):
I don't think you're supposed to.
I think the Geneva Conventionkind of prohibits that.
Brad (49:36):
Oh, do you think that they might have done some bad stuff?
Yeah, maybe.
Dylan (49:41):
Well, the Geneva Convention was after World War I
or World War II, I don't know.
Sounds boring.
I like that we created adocument on the rules of war.
That's a little ironic to me,yeah.
Brad (49:59):
I think we should get tea breaks at lunchtime, like the
British used to do.
Dylan (50:07):
What do you think is going to happen with Iran?
I'm just kidding, we're notgoing into that.
No, we're not.
No, well, tea breaks cucumbersandwiches.
Have you ever been high teabefore?
Yeah, I love it.
It's a fucking fan.
Anytime I go to London, what doI do?
I book a very fancy tea.
Brad (50:27):
I don't know what tea time is High tea?
High tea Is that when you smoke.
Dylan (50:33):
I don't think you can't smoke anymore.
Brad (50:35):
Oh, so you get high and drink tea?
Dylan (50:37):
No, you get drunk and drink tea.
What?
Yeah champagne is fantastic.
What?
As many sandwiches?
As many crumpets?
No, Let me tell you crumpets.
Brad (50:46):
What's that?
A crumpet.
Dylan (50:47):
I couldn't tell you Cool, I think it's like shortbread
sometimes.
Brad (50:51):
Oh, like champagne.
Dylan (50:52):
Why don't you like champagne?
Brad (50:53):
I don't like tea and, on that note, probably don't like
cucumber sandwiches.
Dylan (50:58):
Brad is an axis.
Kermit (51:01):
You're still here, it's over.
Go home, go.
That's what I miss.
On a desolate, frozen tundra surrounded by mindless,
brain numbing cold takes, twobros trek through the
nothingness to bring hope to anew generation.
You are about to experiencebrad and dylan's hot takes.
Here we go again.
Dylan (00:18):
Again, trifecta number three.
That doesn't mean anything toall listeners.
That's great.
Brad (00:25):
I like to start off the worst of this remember,
everything we do is just killingtime, until time kills us.
Dylan (00:35):
I wish you did until we meet again.
I wish you would do Petersoninstead.
Oh.
Brad (00:43):
Okay, so whenever I do Peterson, I just have to start
channeling kermit.
Kermit (00:48):
Okay you know and Like, the really hard part about being
alive is just knowing thateverything we do is just killing
damn time, until the time comesand it kills us.
Dylan (01:06):
You have to do skeletor is it good?
You have to do skeletor as.
Kermit (01:11):
George Peterson I love it.
Now on I love it.
Brad (01:14):
Okay, we'll end with them.
We'll end with one.
Dylan (01:17):
Yes, that's not gonna be near, as that's a hell of a way
to start an episode.
Hell of a way to end an episode.
Yeah, okay, I don't know how westill have listeners at this
point, though.
All right, because ourmaterials been shit.
Brad (01:28):
Uh, we're just really good grass, spinach, straws oh yeah,
that too, that's fine.
Okay, welcome to another hottakes, hot, takes, hot and loose
.
I need to get that I need toget that.
Kermit (01:41):
I need to get the fast allowed.
Dylan (01:44):
I'm with Ben Stiller again, again.
No midi button.
Yeah, why not?
I don't really like it.
You don't like our intro?
No, do you want me to redo it?
No, okay.
Brad (01:56):
Yeah, we'll redo it someday.
Dylan (01:57):
Okay, maybe when we get a legit engineer.
Brad (02:00):
Yeah, I.
I'm just sad because I didn'thave Chick-fil-A sauce tonight.
Dylan (02:05):
I have, I have.
Brad (02:05):
Chick-fil-A sauce.
Yeah, I was angry coming inhere though.
Dylan (02:10):
Yeah, let's go with that.
Brad (02:12):
Uh, they should have been two weeks ago.
It was episode.
By the way, not angry, I'mgetting good at this time
continuing.
Dylan (02:17):
Great Good for you, okay, continue.
Brad (02:20):
Great, I likened teaching teaching teaching is a heavy
word Coordinating youthbasketball.
It's like trying to teach Catshow to jump rope.
Dylan (02:36):
Okay, yeah, they don't have thumbs.
How do they hold the rope?
That's a problem, yeah.
Kermit (02:41):
Yeah.
Brad (02:44):
It's it's a lot happening and it seems you know like a Not
terribly hard task to do, butlet me guess they just keep
running around and meowing.
Dylan (02:58):
And what's?
Uh, what's the modern?
What's the modern Modern youthcat meow sound like nowadays.
Brad (03:05):
Oh, oh, I thought we were talking about cats.
Jump roping Okay, yeah, um, no,the same, okay, I don't think.
I don't think the dialect getstrendy until middle school.
That's a fascinating, and rightnow it is bra Bra, that's so
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mid bra.
Dylan (03:29):
What the fuck is mid, mid , just not good, just middle of
the pack.
Yeah, you're just mid.
That's what they say.
Yeah, what did I, what did wesay?
What was your guys's term?
Kermit (03:42):
Okay.
Dylan (03:43):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think we were that Uh.
Brad (03:50):
I don't what.
Dylan (03:51):
Yeah, I mean, there was some, and we're probably gonna
have like cove at 19 and allthese like gender phobia, elicit
or explicit Tags all over ourpockets now, because you just
said that what that used to beyour guys's term for mid.
I don't know it was really ahell of a drug?
Brad (04:13):
Yeah, it is.
What was my, what was my takefor today?
Dylan (04:18):
I don't know what your take is.
I don't write the hot takes you.
What's yours?
You haven't had any in likeweeks.
No, I'm not really that angrywith the world.
Oh boy, I mean I'm really angrywith the world.
But I had a.
I had a really Interestingcircumstance happened to me the
past few weeks, so I've been ina.
It could always be worse mode,so I've been very grateful and
(04:40):
gracious wow.
Gratitude all around.
Good for you.
Yeah, I guess I guess my hottake is fuck cancer.
Yeah, it's, it's, I think it'sprobably my hot take.
I think there's a lot of peoplethat that have been affected by
it and it just it really kindof hits home when it I shouldn't
say it hits, that's, that's aredundant.
(05:01):
It really Excess rebates itselfwhen it, when it, when it hits
so close to home about reallywhat the meaning of fuck cancer
is and it's, it's detrimental.
It really is because it ittakes.
And it's not that all sicknessisn't all that, life isn't
precious at every stage, butit's just a destroyer out of
(05:24):
nowhere you know you get.
Brad (05:25):
You can get used to a lot of things, but cancer never
really grows on you.
Dylan (05:30):
It grows in.
Brad (05:31):
You've been on on it.
Yeah, I get it.
Dylan (05:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is my coping mechanism.
Humor, yeah, mine too.
Wow, I know you didn't get myprism the other day.
Kermit (05:41):
So it doesn't matter cuz I thought it was spectrum.
Dylan (05:43):
I thought it was drinking , but oh no, there's a lot of
that too.
Kermit (05:47):
Okay.
Dylan (05:47):
Okay, that's fair.
And if my lawyer ever askedthis, was my real voice.
Brad (05:52):
Like you, don't do a good job at this.
Do what hot takes.
Dylan (05:56):
Fuck cancer, that's my hot.
Brad (05:57):
That's not a hot take.
No one is gonna stand up anddisagree with you and like no,
that's a good thing, so we needmore cancer in our lives.
Dylan (06:07):
I Mean if I was possibly controversial if I was a CFO,
ceo, c-suite level vicepresident exact for striker I
would be all for cancer, okaywhat is they?
Make a lot of money on people.
What if?
Yeah, hear me out.
Striker's a med rep company, bythe way.
(06:28):
This is their medical devices.
This is my brain amongst themany things.
My brain working in new ways.
Okay.
Brad (06:35):
What if cancer is a Gateway to god?
Is a genetic evolution that weare mishandling.
Dylan (06:43):
I mean it really is because we're not carrying it,
so we are mishandling it.
I, yeah, I don't mean carryingit you walked into that one
asshole.
Brad (06:52):
Maybe.
Yeah, by the way, I don't thinkthat's what it is.
I know, I'm just saying likeyou've just ostracized.
Yeah, you're, you're.
You're just like, uh, kill itwith chemicals.
And then you know, little tinybaby Jesus is up there just
being like, no, you're supposedto do this, do it, it'll change
your whole life.
Dylan (07:14):
You know, yeah, cherubs would be the cherubs or the
angels.
Brad (07:19):
Uh, because, cherubs aren't angels.
Dylan (07:21):
I don't think I thought cherubs were fat babies.
They are, but they have wings.
I don't know, there's adifference.
I don't weird, I know.
Brad (07:27):
Um uh, do you think angels would be cute or scary?
Dylan (07:32):
Scary Mmm.
Yeah, not a chance in hell.
There I saw a fun one the otherday which was even the devil's
not atheist.
His job is to make you one.
That one was.
I thought that was goodmarketing.
Kermit (07:46):
That's his job.
Dylan (07:47):
That was a good line.
That's his job.
That was a good line.
I was like that's good, welldone, that's good.
Someone in your marketingdepartment did well.
Brad (07:55):
Well done, lucifer, you won.
Dylan (08:00):
Probably a nice guy.
Brad (08:06):
So we're just going back to again.
You don't have.
Dylan (08:08):
I have a lot of hot takes .
You don't have any.
Brad (08:10):
I got a good job though, so I have to be careful you
don't have any hot takes.
No, do you know how many dogsare euthanized every year?
Approximately Mmm.
The shelter animals, 20% Ofwhat.
Dylan (08:31):
Whatever the number of dogs and shelters are.
Brad (08:33):
Who knows what that number is?
Dylan (08:36):
Don't come to me with bullshit numbers.
Come to me with stats.
I have a stat, Okay give me thestat 400,000.
Wow Is that a lot Seems like alot.
Brad (08:49):
How much space?
Is that?
Cats and dogs?
No, it's just dogs, dogs.
Cats are only slightly higher,about 500,000.
Dylan (08:56):
They breed faster.
Brad (08:57):
They have bunnies, do they kill?
Dylan (08:58):
bunnies too.
Brad (09:01):
Yeah, probably.
Okay, bunnies fuck like rabbits, so they're repopulated.
Dylan (09:08):
That should be a bumper sticker.
Word.
That should be a bumper sticker.
Brad (09:12):
Also, cats do a really good job of killing themselves.
I feel like there's a littlebit of natural selection there.
Yeah, I feel like if anotheranimal was going to do murder,
suicide, it'd be a cat.
I think no, yeah, I mean theyjust murk like a bunny and then
run out in the street and gethit by a car.
Dylan (09:35):
I can't believe what.
Kermit (09:35):
I just did.
Dylan (09:38):
It's possible, why?
That's why that is so funny,because my cats, because cats
are crazy.
That's exactly how they woulddo it.
Annie would be like last meal Ineed cheese puffs and then
we'll move on.
Brad (09:51):
Yeah, yeah, so that's a fair amount of dogs dead.
So my hot take was that if youdecide that you need to breed
dogs, that you get to just keepall those dogs.
Dylan (10:11):
The ones.
If you breed dogs and you givethem the good loving homes, it's
not necessary right now.
Oh, I see where you're going.
You're one of those peoplethat's anti dog breeders, and
everyone should get sheltereddogs instead.
Brad (10:27):
Up to the point where you don't need to do that anymore.
Dylan (10:31):
Okay, and then my counter argument is the ones doing it
legally aren't the problem.
It's the fucking puppy millsthat are causing the issue.
So the people living inside theconfines of the kennel clubs
and everything else are going tobe punished because there's
criminals other places doing badthings that are making this
(10:52):
problem happen?
No, that's what you're saying,oh, no, okay, so people that
legally breed dogs and livewithin the confines of what is
ethical breeding are going to bepunished because they should
just have to keep them all?
Kermit (11:06):
Yeah.
Dylan (11:07):
Okay, yeah, and that the problem is systemically there is
because it's not the wrong term.
How is it their problem thatother people are doing it puppy
mill style and causing thismassive influx of dogs in the
shelters?
Brad (11:25):
It's not just puppy mills Okay.
Dylan (11:28):
It's also irresponsible owners.
So I don't agree.
I don't agree with the pet coand the glass wall where you get
the kids hearts beating towardsanimal.
So, for example, the dogs thatmy family has adopted from
proper breeders.
You have to go and you have toget vetted as a family, okay,
(11:51):
and then they will say no ifthey don't feel like you're a
good fit for what their animalsare.
And sometimes they say yes, orthey say yes probably more than
no, but they have the right torefuse.
Kermit (12:02):
Okay.
Brad (12:04):
As do shelters Okay.
So yeah, I'm interested in that, yes, stringent Okay, probably
based on the typical cockapoobringer.
Okay, maybe.
Dylan (12:16):
I have no idea, I don't know either.
But why you're punishing peoplethat do a responsible job
because others are irresponsible.
Brad (12:25):
Yeah, you know why?
Why?
Dylan (12:29):
Because everybody doesn't want your fucking dog.
But why am I?
As if they're not creating aninflux in the system?
And those dogs live withfamilies until they're old and
die.
What's the problem with that?
I think your hot take isinvalid.
Kermit (12:44):
You don't like it.
Dylan (12:45):
I mean it's fine, I like debate.
Brad (12:51):
What about, like?
Dogs are part of your family?
Yeah, yeah so, but we can'tsell kids.
Dylan (13:02):
I mean you can, if you're way fair, oh sure, we're going
to get sued.
Kermit (13:06):
I forgot about that.
Yeah, we're going to have towork out the way fair might come
after us.
Brad (13:12):
That wasn't directly with them.
No, it was through them.
Dylan (13:15):
Sorry, way fair.
I apologize.
You were just a medium fortransport.
Brad (13:20):
That was that was I forgot about that $69,000 locker.
So it's, it's some of thatwhere it's like they, we keep
selling like don't make me sayno no, it goes.
Dylan (13:36):
It goes back to the three hours, the reduced, the reuse,
and you can't recycle the dog,but it's, it is.
What are we doing?
Brad (13:44):
I'm a little nervous.
Dylan (13:45):
There's a little bit of consumerism with it.
That's and a little bit is thewrong term.
It's yeah and yes, there aresome ethical dilemmas there of
why do we keep a lot of itAllowing people to buy Frenchies
, this mass product?
Yes, I'm not a big Frenchie fan.
I think they're cute, but Iwould never want one.
Brad (14:05):
They can't breathe.
People it is they can't breathe.
Dylan (14:09):
I mean, you just think about they're genetically
mutated to not have good.
Brad (14:12):
You're breeding a thing in the wrong, Like Darwin is like
no, that's not the fucking rightway.
You guys are going opposite.
Dylan (14:24):
Could have said that about COVID too.
Brad (14:27):
What.
Dylan (14:29):
What Sheard mentality Say it, that's fine.
Brad (14:34):
That's, that's all.
But also there's there's peoplethat.
Dylan (14:40):
I mean when I, when I get a dog because I can't have one
right now because I just like to, just I'm.
I'm a free spirit, I like to gowith the wind, and that's not
nice to the dog.
Brad (14:51):
I love dogs more than anything.
I will.
Dylan (14:53):
I will get a purebred lab .
Brad (14:56):
Why.
Dylan (14:57):
Because, because, why?
Because, when I get that niceoil painting of me and it and
all tweed on the top of mymantle.
It's going to look beautiful.
Okay, both my labs arebeautiful.
I mean, one just tries toattack me all the time.
Brad (15:09):
He doesn't.
Kermit (15:10):
In a loving way.
Dylan (15:10):
Yeah yeah, he's fine.
He's got lumps on his shoulders.
He dumb, it's not going to lookgood in the oil painting.
Brad (15:16):
He doesn't have lumps on his shoulders.
Dylan (15:18):
Okay.
Brad (15:19):
Fuck you.
Dylan (15:20):
I'm a little ill proportioned, can't win the.
Brad (15:23):
He is a beautiful boy, can't?
Dylan (15:25):
Can't win Best in Show with ill proportions, don't know
he has a fuck about Best inShow.
Brad (15:30):
No, you're right, nobody does Nobody important.
Anyways, I love that movie butthere are people that have they
have breeds.
That the problem is when peopletake like a working breed and
you get an anomaly and they'relike such a good house dog, we
should have puppies.
But the puppies come out likethey're supposed to and they're
(15:56):
fucking maniacs.
Kermit (15:59):
And they're like I don't know what happened Like yeah,
you had a bad one.
Brad (16:06):
It's not normal and bad meaning it was good based on
what you thought was good.
So Now you got this shithappens.
Oh, I forgot about this guyAlso.
People should have to.
Benjamin Button dogs.
Dylan (16:23):
What do you mean?
Should have to?
How do you?
How do you, benjamin Button,you just create a genetic
anomaly on your own way.
Yeah.
Brad (16:30):
Yeah, like you got you, you have to.
If I had unlimited space andtime, I would adopt only
geriatric dogs, I think I thinkthey have the most love to give,
but everybody gets sucked in bythe puppies.
That's what I mean.
Like you should have to get adog based on oh yeah, so end of
life.
Dylan (16:50):
So this is it.
This is an interesting article.
It's back from 2019.
It's the Guardian for anyone.
I'm not going to post it in thecomments so that you guys can
vet it, but you can look it upyourself.
The man who invented the goldendoodle says that that is his
(17:11):
life's biggest regret WallyConron.
He said he created aFrankenstein monster and I
forgot about this because I'veread this before.
But he regrets it because it'sbecome so popular and to your
point, there's a ruthlessbreeding where people are doing
it for big dollars but they aregenetic mutation that has
(17:35):
serious mental health andhereditary problems, and so what
you don't see because breedersknow this is they know kind of
early on if there's a runt orsome issues and you just never
see that dog again.
That puppy again, and then allof a sudden, when you get there,
there's five cute ones.
You're like oh, this is great,this is a beautiful litter.
(17:57):
You don't see the four thatmight have maybe had issues,
because they go bye-bye.
Are you saying they shouldn'tgo bye-bye?
I'm not saying they shouldn't,but you just killed half of them
.
Brad (18:07):
Also, that guy sounds a lot like the guy that also
invented Bud Light Lime.
Dylan (18:12):
So I like that beer.
Brad (18:13):
Yeah, that's my hot take Bud Light Lime is great Genetic
anomaly that became insanelypopular, created some monsters.
Dylan (18:24):
Created some monsters, it's.
You know it's good.
You just get off the bike, yougo into the bar and you're just
like hey, give me a six pack ofBud Light Lime and you're gonna
be shot in the wall?
Brad (18:34):
I do not know that scenario at all.
Oh, I don't.
I've never ridden a bike to abar.
Kermit (18:40):
Have I?
No, I have not.
Brad (18:43):
Have you ridden a B-S-C-L-A?
Nope, okay, tipped over amotorcycle once, so.
Dylan (18:48):
I could see you being that guy like.
Brad (18:50):
Tipped over a motorcycle.
Dylan (18:52):
Yeah, fucking weak.
Is that a?
You've never seen that movieeither.
It doesn't matter what Pee WeeHerman, american Graffiti.
Oh yeah, I've seen that one,yeah, when he rolls up on his
moped and he knocks it overright off the bat, that's you it
yeah, nice Vespa it is, it'sfine.
Vespa's are pretty cool.
Brad (19:16):
Do people use dogs as part of their identity?
Dylan (19:20):
Oh yeah, my ex-girlfriend has a social media account.
What's that say about me?
It's all devoted to her dog andthat's to get likes, because
her profile can't get likes.
Brad (19:27):
Yeah, I only post dogs on my work page.
You have a work page?
Yeah, oh, good for you.
Nobody cares about my work, butthey like dogs.
Dylan (19:36):
I'm gonna bleep that last part out about my ex-girlfriend
.
I don't like talking about myexes like that, I'm sorry.
Brad (19:41):
Okay, well, now you gotta bleep that part out too.
That's fine, great.
Also, I don't like.
I would prefer people's petshave Instagram profiles over
them.
100%.
I like them, yeah.
No, if they're authentic.
Dylan (20:00):
Actually this is a good rule.
I don't like rules.
I don't either.
I don't like.
But how about this first socialexperiment?
Okay, you don't get to haveyour own social media until you
do in animals social media, okay, and that you can prove to a
(20:22):
board that it didn't get wildand out of control and
self-centered and it actuallyprovided some value.
And that could be based onvarious metrics, one being
letting people around you knowwhat's going on, consumerism,
growth, just making sure thoseproducts get sold, et cetera.
Brad (20:40):
And now I feel like.
I feel like that's why youshould only have the pets,
because it is hard to get out ofcontrol.
Dylan (20:48):
That's what I'm saying.
Brad (20:51):
I don't see a lot of people's pet accounts talking
about politics.
That's what I'm saying.
Dylan (20:56):
That's what I'm saying.
A bunch of Frenchies.
There's the battle of theFrenchies.
You got Make America.
You got Make America.
Great dog sweaters over here,and then you've got Biden's.
Brad (21:07):
It's Biden economics over here on the left, it's all
Frenchies, but they're allwearing the fucking neon
reflective vest.
Dylan (21:12):
Oh that's embarrassed.
When is it?
When is pride in New York Cityonly going to be dogs?
It is only dogs on a float,yeah.
You're right, that's a waybetter.
America right there.
Brad (21:26):
I don't.
Dylan (21:26):
I don't hate it, I.
Why do we?
Why do we have more compassionfor animals than we do for other
humans?
That's my hot take Cause.
I absolutely have morecompassion for animals than I do
other humans, I believe my dadhas taught me a few things in
this life.
Brad (21:47):
Okay, One was why don't you have a watch on your wedding
day?
Dylan (21:53):
That's I watch is an important day as a or something
that's big in my family.
Okay, so that's no I.
That's why I'm agreeing withyou.
Brad (22:01):
Yeah, that was news to me, because I was unaware of it
apparently.
Kermit (22:04):
So did he get you a watch?
No, he did not.
He just slapped you.
Brad (22:06):
He was just like why the fuck aren't you wearing a watch?
And I was like I don't have one.
Dylan (22:10):
I thought you were the guy that was supposed to teach
me dad why didn't you do it?
Before this I don't know,that's fun Actually, that's just
that's more on your dad than itis on you.
Brad (22:18):
Yeah, never pick up a hitchhiker, unless it's a woman
and a child.
Okay, I'm doing some moviesthat make me question that
theory Now salt burn.
No, I haven't watched that oneyet.
I haven't either, but I'm.
Dylan (22:32):
But then you can't just it's our podcast, that you can
do whatever we want.
Brad (22:38):
But the other one was it's easier to shoot a human than it
is to shoot a dog.
Dylan (22:46):
Did you have experience?
Brad (22:47):
in this, let's say allegedly Okay.
Dylan (22:49):
All right, allegedly.
Brad (22:51):
So and yeah.
Well, you could even putparameters on that.
Kermit (22:58):
Okay.
Brad (22:59):
So it's easier to shoot a bad person than it is a good dog
.
Dylan (23:04):
Yes.
Brad (23:05):
See, you just go down that continuum.
You're like oh yeah, you startat the top and everyone's like
yep, check, yeah, no problems.
But Dogs, they love youunconditionally.
Yeah, unless it's the ones thatbuy you, then you just don't.
(23:27):
Then they're just your exhusband that they still loves
you.
They just don't understand youthey just don't.
Dylan (23:32):
They just don't know how to express their love other than
their fists, yeah well.
Brad (23:36):
Jesus, yeah, everything, everything is a nail.
I guess Maslowe's thank you forruining my dog analogy.
Yeah, we'll start doing theseby myself okay.
I'd love for you to put this alltogether.
I can't do it.
(23:57):
It just may be pressing abutton.
How do I get this thing to turnon?
But yeah, there it's.
I don't know.
It's hard and great having dogs.
I know a lot of people thatlose dogs and they're like never
again.
I'll never go through thatagain.
That was the hardest thing I'veever had to do.
(24:18):
It's like, if you're done, franJesus, no, yeah.
Dylan (24:28):
But to me it's always so.
We're so.
Where do you fall into that?
So this is a friend, if we'regonna know, if we're gonna do
the dog conversation.
This is always the fun one ofhow long do you let them live
and how long do you Know, as youcan see dogs start to spiral.
Oh yeah, what's?
Where's the ethical boundaryfor you when it comes to Take
(24:52):
him out of their misery versuslet them live as long as
possible?
Because I've seen so sneezing.
I've seen some, I've seen bothsides, I've seen some people
where I'm like that might be alittle premature excessive
sneeze and then I've seen somepeople where I'm like you are
making them suffer just becauseyou don't have the emotional
capacity.
Brad (25:10):
I see that plenty.
Which side?
Dylan (25:13):
the second part, the emotional capacity to deal with
the proper thing to do.
Yeah, yeah I.
Brad (25:20):
Get it blind, deaf, can't walk, urinates everywhere.
Dylan (25:24):
Mm-hmm, but they're so happy.
Look at them, you're like what?
Where you talking?
How, in what world?
Brad (25:31):
do you live in when you think that's me and an afterlife
doesn't exist?
I'm gonna fucking figure outhow to make one so I can come
back.
Yeah, exactly, in some.
Dylan (25:39):
I will in some way shape or form right now.
Brad (25:41):
Guess what, guess what dogs that only bite people.
That's what they were in aprevious life.
Kermit (25:48):
Mm-hmm.
Oh, that's my hot take that'sgood.
Dylan (25:52):
Yeah, that's good.
Brad (25:53):
Kujo, he was a miniature poodle.
Mm-hmm, that was left too long.
Dylan (25:59):
Okay, yeah, and then he came back.
Yeah, he had a lot to live upto you know the reckoning.
I'm not gonna be well whenAnnie goes down, yeah, but I'll
do it.
I'll do it.
Brad (26:12):
Yeah, cats, I mean I'm not going to catch a little,
definitely going to put her inthe room.
Of what room?
Okay.
Dylan (26:22):
You're gonna go?
Brad (26:22):
in there.
Dylan (26:23):
Yeah, I'm not okay.
Brad (26:24):
Yeah.
Kermit (26:25):
I'm.
Brad (26:27):
I have a hard time with those people too.
Dylan (26:29):
What?
Just you're watching themsuffer so over there?
Brad (26:31):
No, they know like the people that are like I'm not
going.
Oh, I have a problem with thattoo, or the.
So there's very there's I'm nottaking them, or I'm just gonna
drop them off at the door, orthere's.
There's different levels to it,you know that's and that's.
I remember when we moved we hada like an Irish setter mix.
(26:56):
It's my dad's dog, yeah.
Dylan (26:59):
I think that's.
Brad (27:00):
I got.
Maybe I'll talk about thattherapy next time.
Okay, that's a good one, yeah.
Dylan (27:05):
I like that we write down our hot takes and our therapy.
Brad (27:10):
I was, like always connected to dogs growing up,
and this one was an outside dog.
Kermit (27:17):
Mm-hmm so.
Brad (27:17):
I had a pen and a kennel doghouse and then we had a stray
that walked up one day.
So years after I mean I was, Idon't know, six or seven
something like that Previous hadhad this other dog for Probably
since I was a baby or so, yep,and always been outside.
(27:38):
And then the stray walks in andshe's like a spaniel mix,
smaller, and all of a sudden,like she gets to live in the
house, she gets table scraps andshe gets to poop in the grass
and not on concrete, so, butnear the end of his life so that
was when I was closer to 12 ish, something like that I started
(28:02):
hanging around him a lot moreand before we moved we were
moving to a house that wassingle story, to a like a split
for whatever, and he wasn'tgonna be able to do steps and I
mean he was like falling downjust trying to walk around the
yard and All that stuff.
And so my dad took him and hadit put down before we actually
(28:23):
moved out of the house.
Oh, he didn't really tell Me atleast.
I mean, he probably told otherpeople, I think, but I was.
I remember being pissed that,like I didn't get to go with him
.
So yeah, I always did that you,I don't.
Dylan (28:47):
If you wanted, if you're going to enjoy the good times,
you have to be there, for yougot to share the pain.
You do, you do and I don't.
I've had some instances whenI've talked to people into it
which was well, they're so fargone, I don't even know if
(29:07):
they're gonna know I'm there,you know I and they.
They tell themselves lies whichis Well, I don't want to
remember.
Well, this way, actually, onedrives me up a wall is I don't
want to remember them this way,like it's no, no, no, no.
If they, if they, provided thatmuch joy to you, yeah, you
(29:28):
don't get to cop out the lastsecond, you selfish bastard,
because Hot take, hot take thatno it does that.
This one drives me.
And I do understand if you havesuch an insufficient capacity or
capability emotionally to beable to deal with that, then
(29:51):
those are your problems.
But you're not going to.
You're not going to Diminish orreduce the joy that someone can
have at the end of their lifebecause you don't have the
facilities to do it.
That's on you to figure it out.
Yeah, I, I.
It is no excuse for you to be acoward at the end of somebody
else's life when, even if theyaren't quote unquote with it,
(30:16):
you can't say that you'represent, you don't.
You can't say with certaintythat your presence isn't a good
thing for them, right, and nowyou're taking away something
from them at the end of theirlife, when they've provided so
much joy to you.
You're not willing to return inkind.
Brad (30:31):
That's gonna be like when I'm on my deathbed and I'm not
coherent and you're standingnext to me.
Dylan (30:38):
I'm gonna be sitting in the back of my head with a
coloring book drawing on yourchest.
Brad (30:43):
I can't respond, but I'm just like.
Dylan (30:45):
I wish this motherfucker wasn't in the room right now I
gotta go out like this I amgoing to be Indian style on your
lap, drawing a paint my number.
Actually, I'm going to bepainting a paint my numbers on
your chest.
Great, and Shannon's gonna belike what are you doing?
I'll be like I love it, yeah.
Brad (31:04):
That's, that's nice the world I.
Dylan (31:08):
I don't know, I've just I've I had a friend that was
like, oh, I can't go see my, mygrandma, that way.
I'm like, no, you're going toget in the car and you're going
to drive and go see her, yeah.
And then they did.
And then they called andthanked me afterwards because I
said you know what that actuallywas necessary.
Brad (31:26):
Yeah, uh, I feel like I have a harder time with people
than dogs.
Dylan (31:32):
And that's fine.
Brad (31:33):
So what's that Say it Means you're weak.
I don't know.
I think it's a fear factorabout?
Dylan (31:45):
Do you switch places with them?
Are you imagine if it's you?
Brad (31:49):
Yeah, I mean you like imagine yourself being in that.
You know just like I want toWant to do that, and there's
also some of that, yeah, so Iguess the way people talk about
dogs is the way I talk aboutpeople sometimes.
Dylan (32:07):
Big softie.
No, the other way.
Brad (32:09):
Yeah, put him down, just like I want to remember him that
way.
It's not the same All that,yeah.
Dylan (32:19):
Yeah, you kind of get a choice with the dog, don't you A
little bit?
You don't get a choice withyour significant others.
Man, maybe that's.
Yeah it's different, though.
How do we feel about that,kvorkian?
Brad (32:32):
Well, that's what it always leads into.
It's like how can I be sohumane to this animal?
Dylan (32:39):
Yeah.
Brad (32:39):
But if this was my dad?
Dylan (32:42):
Does anyone allow medical euthanasia?
Is Switzerland.
Brad (32:48):
There's a real fine line between that too, because I've
been present for some of thoseand they're like, oh yeah, we
gave them some more morphine.
It's like, well, that justkills them.
They're like, oh, it slowstheir heart rate down.
It's like, how is thisdifferent?
It's because this is OK to givethem, like, this is an
(33:09):
acceptable drug to give them,even though that is essentially
what stops their heart.
In the end, there gets to be apoint where.
You're really splitting hairs.
Dylan (33:18):
Terminal cancer.
You get so much pain towardsthe end where they just keep
microdosing in terms of a littlebit at a time, where they keep,
but they keep bumping, bumping.
Brad (33:28):
Yeah.
Dylan (33:29):
And then eventually you're like your heart just
stops.
I've been around for a hospicenurse to come in when somebody
had just died and they werelooking at the pain meds.
And because they have to takeall the pain meds out of the
house because they're allnarcotics and that's one of
their jobs as a hospice nurse isto make sure that those don't
(33:50):
fall into the wrong hands,because or the right hands or
the right hands Maybe a couplehundred dollars did get passed
around.
I don't know, but I rememberthem putting it in their bag,
which then they soak with waterand then they garbage disposal
it.
But they looked at the bag andthey looked at everyone.
They're like seriously, this iswhat he was on.
(34:13):
How is he not dead before this?
Yeah, they're like.
I've been in this industry fora long time.
Kermit (34:21):
And then John Mayer started playing.
Your body is a wonderland.
Dylan (34:25):
We might want to study.
We might want to study.
Kermit (34:28):
Yeah.
Dylan (34:29):
But it is funny to you.
It's something I guess I'veeven thought about that way,
yeah, we won't kill you, we'lljust do it in another way
without calling it killing you.
Brad (34:40):
Yeah, you're in a weakened state and you, at that point,
most likely are at end of life.
We're just going to give it alittle nudge, just so it's not
prolonged.
We're like well, ok but why dowe get to decide that now and
not two weeks ago or four weeksago, or if we do it in another?
Dylan (35:03):
lens Jesus Christ.
Termination of life on requestand assisted suicide.
Act of 2001 permits doctors toprescribe drugs for
self-administration.
The individual involved must beat least 12 years old and
parental consent is required forthose aged 12 to 16.
Brad (35:20):
Only 16?
.
Kermit (35:25):
Yeah, but they're 18 there, oh yeah.
Dylan (35:27):
So Switzerland, but also oh, swiss criminal code of 1942
permitted adults to assist inother suicide, as long as the
motor for doing so was notselfish.
Can you imagine being in acourt of law and trying to
identify what's selfish?
Nope, that sounds veryopen-ended.
Brad (35:49):
What was that Swiss yeah.
Kermit (35:51):
Yeah.
Brad (35:52):
That's right.
No, I'm for it.
Dylan (35:56):
Assisted suicide is lawful, irrespective of the
condition of the person whoacqui-.
Oh, you can just do it inSwitzerland.
Apparently.
That says a lot about howprobably happy that country is,
or what resources they have.
They're like yeah well, letanyone do it if they really want
to do it, because we don't havea problem.
Brad (36:16):
With what.
Dylan (36:18):
I don't know.
Let's look it up, let's look itup, let's look it up.
Brad (36:22):
So happiness rates they haven't been to war for a while.
Dylan (36:27):
It's because everyone's really afraid of them.
Are they, do you not under?
No, they're completelysurrounded by mountains.
They have fake houses in themiddle of their country that are
like missile sites.
The whole country's a militia.
Brad (36:41):
I thought they were neutral.
Dylan (36:42):
They are.
But the whole point of Hitlerdidn't go at them because you
would have to go through themountains and he knew that they
would.
They have hidden bunkerseverywhere and he knew they
would decimate him.
That's, they have a for theirfortress of a country.
That's why they're neutral.
Brad (36:56):
I Thought it was because of the leader hosin.
Dylan (37:01):
Oh no.
Do they make it out of silk, ordo they make it out of calf
skin?
Brad (37:05):
I don't know, I Thought the Germans are just like I like
your style.
We're gonna leave you alone.
No it was because of all thepasses they'd have to go.
Do they have missiles back then?
No it was just the geographyyeah because they've well.
Dylan (37:22):
So pre all this you don't quote me exactly on this but
pre all the Neutrality they gotin a couple they've getting some
skirmishes and nobody was ableto ever make the pass.
So there was like I'm just notgonna, just not gonna do that.
Brad (37:36):
Was it like?
Was it Belgium, that theGermans were trying to go
through and they flooded?
The country but they had theBelgium.
This was World War one, I think, and the Schlieffen plan the
Germans were like we're justgonna pass through here.
Dylan (37:50):
Yeah, no, it was supposed to be.
It was supposed to be two weekstops.
Brad (37:54):
Yeah, they're like, we're just gonna pass through and Then
the those TORRIT gunner.
Dylan (37:59):
Like they had that little fake wall.
That was a wall.
Brad (38:02):
Well, belgium had.
They flooded the forts, yeah,from Previous, so like they were
impenetrable from cannon fire.
Yeah, and they stacked bodiesBecause they would just machine
gun from these like in groundforts.
Yeah, and the Germans werecoming after them and they just
(38:22):
stacked to the point where theywere shooting holes through
walls of bodies to shoot theother bodies yeah but, they
still lost then Germany was likehey, by the way, on this train
we have the biggest artillerygun we've ever made.
And they brought a couple.
Dylan (38:41):
It took two weeks to get there.
Brad (38:42):
It's gonna take a while because we have to pour a
concrete pad so that we can putit on it.
Yeah, but one we're gonna fuckyour world, and then they did.
Dylan (38:50):
Yeah, that's where the term shell shot comes from
everyone.
I don't know if anyone knowsthat.
Yeah, it's from the bigartillery Um, huge, the guns
were in that.
Shells were just falling oneveryone, whether, whatever side
you were on, and you justEverywhere, everywhere and
nonstop.
Brad (39:05):
Yeah, you know, look up that.
Oh my stats, when I mean of howmany, Dan Carlin goes into that
of how many shells go off.
That is wild, it's insane.
Dylan (39:15):
You're like okay.
So like literally for 22 hoursof my day I'm just expected to
have a shell hit me.
Like you, imagine the constantstate of anxiety.
Brad (39:25):
I mean, what are?
I can't remember what some ofthe Numbers are off of, like
what they would release in a day, but just think it's thousands.
So if you're going all day long, just a man, what's?
I don't.
I'm looking at thousands,hundreds of explosions an hour,
(39:49):
at least Major explosionsheaviest shell used during World
War one was thirty one hundredpounds.
Dylan (39:58):
It was French, by the way .
Oh, that was one shell.
Brad (40:01):
Yeah, that's a Volkswagen.
Dylan (40:08):
Yeah, yeah, that is a Volkswagen.
Brad (40:09):
Yeah, and then they're just falling, like like a little
shelter cats and dogs theBritish used thirty three point
five million shells in May of1917 holy shit.
Three and a half million in amonth.
Dylan (40:25):
Yeah, that's so hundred.
Brad (40:28):
Thousand a day.
Dylan (40:29):
Oh my god.
Brad (40:31):
How do you even calculate?
How do you even have that manyguns to shoot that many?
Kermit (40:36):
Oh.
Brad (40:40):
With that.
No, that wouldn't includeaircraft.
So three point five.
Dylan (40:46):
I weird, there's three hundred three point five.
Oh yeah he's got the calculatorout the bus guy 31 days.
Brad (40:51):
Let's go in deep divided by 24 hours.
Dylan (40:55):
Well, now you're just dividing forty seven hundred An
hour, an hour for a month.
Sir watching Masters of Air onApple TV.
That's the sub-banner brother.
You know better brothers.
Yeah, tom Hanks does Masters ofthe air, which is the.
The bombers that Flew out ofthe UK over Europe did all the,
(41:18):
and so the bombers had a veryhigh death rate because they got
.
They got shot down.
I mean the Luftwaffe, theLuftwaffe was pretty effective.
Brad (41:27):
Well, my grandpa was shot down.
Was he, did he survive?
Yes, good for using to be 17.
Kermit (41:33):
Yeah, where do you?
Brad (41:33):
end.
They got shot down over, that'sthat or mom's dad, my dad's dad
.
Dylan (41:41):
That's cool.
I mean not not at the time Ihave to go back and look
Specifically.
Brad (41:47):
I don't know if they were into Was he part of the 100.
Germany.
Oh God, make me think of thenumber was he?
Dylan (41:55):
what was he on the airplane on the B17?
Brad (41:58):
Typically he was tailgunner.
But he was tailgunner that thatspecific day he was on the
waist, mmm.
Oh, he was down in the in the.
No, no, no, no, no.
The waist gunner of the side,oh he was off one of the sides.
Okay, but yeah, they got.
They got hit by.
It wasn't machine gun fire, butit was lack.
No, it was.
I have the bullet one that'slike it.
(42:18):
That came from the Germanplanes and I Think a couple of
them died in there.
There was a fire from hydraulicfluid.
Kermit (42:30):
Mm-hmm.
Brad (42:30):
So the plane was basically on fire and a couple of them
died.
The rest of them jumped outyour grandpa jumped out.
Dylan (42:38):
Good for him.
It's a wild show because butthey were captured by Germans
like oh, Basically after theylanded so and then they were
able to escape.
Brad (42:49):
Good, oh yeah, stephen McQueen style.
Yeah, basically they werecaptured and then they were kind
of put into a holding facilitywhich was a barn, yep, and then
they're just kind of moseying onout.
Yeah, then they were basicallymoving to another site and they
(43:11):
started getting strafed byAllied planes because they saw a
big convoy of Germans.
Yeah, not knowing that therewas also.
Dylan (43:18):
Hey man, pmws in there.
Hey man, I'm down here too.
Brad (43:21):
And yeah.
So chaos ensued and everybodySplit.
They just basically ran.
Damn Into the woods, that'swild, and then they were several
days just.
I mean very much like savingPrivate Ryan, where they're just
kind of wandering through thewilderness until they find their
way back to they're in theirtowards France.
So Damn.
Dylan (43:44):
I bet that felt like an adventure A little bit, a little
bit A little bit ofHobbit-esque Lord of the Rings.
Brad (43:50):
I bet it was something later in his.
He was always what is it I wantto say he was 108th bomb group.
I might be wrong I got Was heflying out of England?
Yeah, that was their mainairspace.
I mean to that point the show,just yeah.
Dylan (44:07):
It's interesting because one of the guys shows the first
episode.
One of the guys from thissquadron, or whatever it is,
shows up before the rest of themand he gets to go up on two
missions beforehand.
Okay, and it's.
And you know, they're back inthe States.
They're all Jovial like, oh,save some of the Nazis.
For me it's like all that toughguy Machismo.
(44:29):
And then the guy gets on theground after his first mission
without the rest of his squadronand he's like, is it always
like this?
And they're like, that one waseasy and it was just like
straight chaos.
You know, bull holes throughthe window, flak coming through
the plane, and the captain ofthe airplane looks at the plane
(44:51):
and he's like, oh, I'm going toget out of here.
The captain of the airplanelooks at him and he goes don't
tell your guys.
And he's like, what he goes,they'll figure it out, but don't
tell your guys.
And so then when he's and he'sthe executive commander, so he's
the ground commander and he's apilot, but he's in charge of
(45:14):
the whole squadron, and whenthey come over, his best friend
is a major, they're both majors,but his best friend's a major
as well.
And they go up and his bestfriend gets on the ground.
He's like why did you fuck?
It's helping.
And he was like what were yougoing to do?
And it was like now you know,so let's just move on.
It was wild.
Brad (45:33):
It's crazy to 487th, 487th .
Dylan (45:36):
What was their?
Brad (45:36):
bomb group.
Dylan (45:38):
I think that's in the show and I had the 487th, I
think.
Like six of the eight went downin the original like in the
first episode.
Oh really, I mean they keptlike refilling on.
Brad (45:56):
Oh yeah, well, that was the.
Did you ever see the movie theMemphis Bell?
That was unrepeated in hishouse.
Aggressive, he was into it forsure.
But anyways, years later so itwas kind of before like his
(46:16):
health started declining, theywould go to bomb group reunions
every year.
We got to go to.
The last one was in San Diego,the way we went to Okay.
And it's one of those thingsit's you know, every year you go
and every year there's lesspeople that are alive to go, and
the people would always sendhim articles or new research or
(46:39):
things that come out about thewar.
That's what interests you thinkabout World War II is just the
amount of shit that happened andthe stories that you still are
coming out.
Dylan (46:49):
Well, that's the um, the Ungeneral Warfare movie that Guy
Ritchie is doing right now WithHenry Cavill and, yeah, it's
basically the first guerrillawarfare.
I don't want to say the firstguerrilla warfare, it's like the
first what they I think the SAScame out of this team
essentially.
Brad (47:07):
Okay.
Dylan (47:08):
It was a kind of a it's a true story A non-traditional
story.
It was a non-traditionalsoldier that had been in a lot
of trouble beforehand.
And the guy that brings them inis, like everyone thinks you're
unsavory and that's why I thinkyou're savory.
Yeah, and it's like, oh, thankyou, sir.
And he's like, well, you're notgoing to like the guy that I
want?
Yeah, and then they go overbehind enemy lines and they do.
(47:31):
It's kind of like in GloriousBastards.
Right, it's non-tradi.
You know, we have no choice.
We, the Germans, aren't playingfair, so we're not going to
play fair.
Yeah, but of course, guyRitchie's a fucking genius, but
the Ministry of UngenuinelyWarfare.
Brad (47:47):
Oh, okay, yeah, looks really good Check that out.
But yeah, much, much later inlife someone had sent him an
article that came from that timeperiod and the barn that they
had been held in.
So this was something that theyobviously used.
There was probably a transporttype system and so that was a
(48:11):
holding facility essentiallythat they would use on a regular
basis.
Like weeks or months later thatbarn was torched with people.
Oh no, yeah, like what was that?
Mel Gibson or the Patriot,whatever?
Dylan (48:29):
Yeah, the church Like that style.
It took his wife.
Brad (48:34):
So that was a yeah, he had .
He talked about that a lot.
Well, that was a pretty bigstory.
So right down to as he wasparachuting, so like his
parachutes open, he's floatingand a German fighter is flying
at him and he wrote in like oneof his little memoirs he was
(48:57):
like he could have shot me, likecould have just shot me out of
the air, not a problem.
He's like didn't do it.
So he's like I think that guy alot, so most Germans wanted to
kill, wanted to kill a lot ofGermans, but also you don't get
(49:20):
that cool badge on your airplanewhen you shoot down somebody in
a parachute, though.
No, probably not.
No, no, but also that's kind ofyour job.
Dylan (49:31):
I don't think you're supposed to.
I think the Geneva Conventionkind of prohibits that.
Brad (49:36):
Oh, do you think that they might have done some bad stuff?
Yeah, maybe.
Dylan (49:41):
Well, the Geneva Convention was after World War I
or World War II, I don't know.
Sounds boring.
I like that we created adocument on the rules of war.
That's a little ironic to me,yeah.
Brad (49:59):
I think we should get tea breaks at lunchtime, like the
British used to do.
Dylan (50:07):
What do you think is going to happen with Iran?
I'm just kidding, we're notgoing into that.
No, we're not.
No, well, tea breaks cucumbersandwiches.
Have you ever been high teabefore?
Yeah, I love it.
It's a fucking fan.
Anytime I go to London, what doI do?
I book a very fancy tea.
Brad (50:27):
I don't know what tea time is High tea?
High tea Is that when you smoke.
Dylan (50:33):
I don't think you can't smoke anymore.
Brad (50:35):
Oh, so you get high and drink tea?
Dylan (50:37):
No, you get drunk and drink tea.
What?
Yeah champagne is fantastic.
What?
As many sandwiches?
As many crumpets?
No, Let me tell you crumpets.
Brad (50:46):
What's that?
A crumpet.
Dylan (50:47):
I couldn't tell you Cool, I think it's like shortbread
sometimes.
Brad (50:51):
Oh, like champagne.
Dylan (50:52):
Why don't you like champagne?
Brad (50:53):
I don't like tea and, on that note, probably don't like
cucumber sandwiches.
Dylan (50:58):
Brad is an axis.
Kermit (51:01):
You're still here, it's over.
Go home, go.
That's what I miss.
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