Episode 25 is a double episode of the TFNaz podcast! After the opening segment where Andy and James seek to recall the lyrics to Christian worship songs, the episode begins with some thoughts on what it means to suffer for Jesus in light of 1 Peter 2:18-25. After that, Andy and James talk a bit about the process of hiring pastoral staff at TFNaz in light of our interview with a candidate for the Children's Ministry Director over the previous weekend.
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