Blue Kimble Talks Ruthless, P-Valley, Working with Tyler Perry, Breaking into Acting & More!

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Let's go. Today we got act after model

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former football player. You probably know him as Andrew
Whiteside on Ruthless Blue Kimball.
First show in the house. Such a pleasure, man.
He gave me a little rundown. Hey man, we got to you.
You've worked hard. Call me a model.
I'm a model citizen. How about that?

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You want to You want to say you're a model.
No. So I'm not a model, but it's
just like if you do, if I do a movie that's funny, I'm not
going to say I'm a comedian because I would never disrespect
their crap. Same thing with the model.
I am not a model. I'm just somebody told me that

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they like taking pictures of me.There you go.
I'm a I'm a light skinned Negro taking pictures with it comes
with with acting. You know what I'm saying?
It's it's one in one. It's anonymous.
So if you're an actor, you automatically going to model
God. You can't act without being a
model. It's like.
I don't know. There's some character actors
that, you know, look kind of tough.

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They, no, I didn't say they were.
I didn't say they look good or whatever.
You try to say in that aspect that no smoke.
But if you're an actor, you're going to have to model at some
point. You're going to have steel
shots, you're going to have to promote something.
You're going to have to stand there and take this picture.
You know what I'm saying? So you will never not be a

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model. I, I showed somebody like a,
like a woman that, that we're interviewing you and it's like,
Oh my God, that boy handsome. Hey man, clearly I have.
Fooled. Enough people so salute.
I love it so, man. We know you were born in

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Atlanta. How was that man?
Atlanta How do you like Atlanta?You know, I'm impartial with
Atlanta because they are, you know, the traffic thick out
there. So you're going to say Atlanta
traffic? Is worse trying to get
definitely worse than LA trafficman, I'm telling you know, But
you know why I think that though?
This is why I think that first of all, I'm from LA during

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traffic hours, I don't really. I don't really.
I don't even travel. So again, let's just see how
everybody listen to how the mental aspect of things work,
right? You said it ain't bad.
It's so bad that you won't even go outside.
Now that's true. Do you understand what I'm
saying? Mess with it.
Now he automatically says that Atlanta is worse because he was
in it. Atlanta getting bad though.

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Yo that is nuts. May is the worst.
I mean, of course it's New York,but New York is small.
That's true. And that's everybody knows that
you're not supposed to drive in New York.
In LA, you have to drive to get everywhere.
You have to go and everything is20 minutes apart regardless.

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So when traffic is there, it's ahour drive all day.
Nowhere in Atlanta do you have to prepare your mission before
you leave. You're like, oh, let me run over
here and check AD out. Wait, I got to do it before 2:00
hit, so I won't be able to make it that's.
Absolutely true. That's true.
Fair, LA. Now, is Atlanta getting bad?

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Yes, because like I said, Atlanta went viral multiple
times that people was like, oh fuck that pack up.
We moving to Atlanta. So now it's so many people, the
influx of people that are movingthere and they never
infrastructure the the highways to handle this many people.
So that's why it's so bad. It's going to get bad like LA,

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but we still not there. Y'all on 10?
We like 6. When I think of Atlanta
nowadays, it's the new black Hollywood.
Isn't it? Man, Tyler Perry, what he's done
for Atlanta is a amazing, for sure amazing.
And that's the reason that I'm an actor now, because I was in
Atlanta at the time where it wasbudding and, you know, bubbling

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up and like I was telling earlier and the other, you know,
panels and stuff I've been on after I stopped playing ball, If
I would have stayed in the othercities, if I'd have stayed in
Miami, if I'd have stayed in Charlotte, if I would have
stayed up top, I wouldn't have become an actor.
I only fell into acting because I was in Atlanta at that right
time. What was that first job?

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It's not about the first job, it's just about how I fell into
the shit. Just.
How'd you fall into? Randomly, like you just said,
I'm not a model. I'm not Mr. Pretty Man and and
it just became that and you know, people would always be
like, oh, you know, you got to look, you look good and my body
look good because I was in shapeplaying ball.

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You should model. And I'm like, I'm from Atlanta,
I'm from College Park. We don't do that.
I'm not Shamar Moore. Shout out to Shamar Moore, the
light skinned king. You know what I'm saying?
We don't do that. I'm from the streets.
So it was never that. But a young lady that I was

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dealing with used to try to get me to go to acting class with
her and she tricked me, man. She tricked me to go to acting
class with her to be her ride. And that day is the first day
that I fell into it because she was like, you're not going to
sit and audit my class. If you're going to be here,
you're going to perform. I'm like, no, no, no, I'm just a
ride. And she's like, no, get up, Mr.

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Cool man. You're.
Going. To perform with the rest of the
class, and that's how it started.
That was dope, man. Totally random.
And at the end of the class, she's like, so how long have you
been, you know, doing this? And I like I told you, I'm not
no actor. I don't do this shit.
You know, it's beginning to act.Shout out to Nirvana Rose Raw,

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real Actors Workshop. That's what it was called.
But she's like, yeah, how long you been doing this?
And I'm like, I don't do this. I'm I'm dead serious.
And she was like, wow, I thoughtyou was just blowing us off
because you were more seasoned past this beginning level.
And I'm like, Nah. She was like, Oh well, you got
it. Well, you tripping.
She was like Negro, you could bemaking so much money.

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You got the look, you got the energy.
She was like, whatever it is, you clearly have it.
Like I said, I don't know if shewas gassing me that day, but
whatever. That little inclination 'cause
she was like, you could be making money.
You bugging? So I came back next week, you
know what I'm saying? I came back to the class 'cause
it was fun. We had fun.
Something different somebody never done before, you know,

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just totally out of the norm. And there was girls there, you
know, It's just a different atmosphere.
And I kept going back and that little inkling, that mustard
seed. Opens you up.
And I'm here in front of you now.
There you go, man. He's calling me and my accolades
and I'm Blue Kimmel man with my shirt off and whatever else he

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damn said. So it's just crazy, man.
When God step in and the universe step in, you got to be
clairvoyant enough to receive the pivot right that He's
sending you. You know, I think athletes are
never scared of nothing and and they enjoy the challenge.

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I think that that probably definitely played a role in your
success and you just being open.You hit it because you get it,
because you, I mean y'all comingfrom a sports aspect and like I
said, I don't know who else all y'all had on to speak on this.
The world's are the fucking same.
Excuse my French. Can we drop F bombs?
All day. Excuse me, but the two worlds

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are so identical. Of course it's two different
fields, but everything from football and sports prepared me
for this industry because the industry is rough, but it's just
as rough as sports. The, the, the mental dedication,
the preparation, the discipline,being able to having to know to

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go work on your own. Get up and go train, get up and
go to this, get up and go do that.
Football, you just got your ass kicked.
You lost. You got to learn how to win.
You lose, lose, lose, keep going.
You lost last week, but you needto prepare yourself so you can
win tomorrow or win next week. You know what I'm saying?
Same thing with active. You get told no so many times

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before you get one yes. You going to get told 1000 no's,
a million no's and then you get one yes.
That makes up for everything. Yeah, that's probably the
biggest thing that I learned 'cause I played sports, I played
overseas, I played basketball inAustralia, I did all that.
And the one thing I learned, I was like, it's something about
being consistent and and workingon it.

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Guess what's going to happen? You're going to get.
Better get better. And nobody knows that more than
an athlete. Athletes, they come out, they
work every single day trying to perfect stuff, knowing that
perfection is hard to obtain for, you know what I mean?
But you might be able to get a little bit of it for a little
for, you know, a few minutes, and that's all that really

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counts. And that and that and whatever
wins are, I never know. You got to keep going.
You, you, you achieved this, youdunked.
He's like, OK, now I want to dunk from the now I want to do a
360. You know, it's that's, that's
the athlete aspect. And like I said, you're right.
And I tell people this all the time and to parents and the

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people put your kids in sports because you don't understand how
much. And it's not just about football
or anything, any sports, team sports, I mean sports period.
But then team sports, you got tolearn to play with other people.
You got to learn to deal with different energies.
You got to learn to build, you got to learn to dedicate
yourself to something more than you, right?

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And then that prepares you for the world mentally, physically,
spiritually. So definitely any and everything
I've done of course to my parents and my my father's and
all that. But still, sports is just like
you said, it's the outline for all that.
Absolutely. And for you being the youngest
and you having a couple of olderbrothers.
For sure. Yeah, man, just probably

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watching them grow up, watching them go through all all that
they went through probably helped you.
I look at my little sister, my little sister, unfortunately,
she's the most successful personin my family at the moment and
it is fucking killing me inside.Just so we all know that.
And I'm the oldest and that. Mother, she did it take from
you? And that's what she tell me all
the time. I was like, we need to run that

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back. Yeah, but how was that for you?
Same thing. Like I said, I'm the youngest of
three boys, but raised by uncles, cousins, and everybody
else was always older. So you get to learn and see from
everybody else and you learn from their mistakes and the
things that they did. I'm not going to do what you did
to mess up, even though we stillmess up because we can't help

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it. That's just what it is.
And, and being a man growing up,and like you said, growing up in
Atlanta is always the temptations of things that can
tear you down. Oh yeah, that's.
What I tell people. Atlanta Tricky.
Yeah, yeah, you've. Been to Magic City, how the
wings? You like Magic City?

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I haven't gone yet. Where have you been in Atlanta?
To be honest, I haven't been outside the airport at the OH up
to this point. I was.
Here, Rookie No. I was saying, I was saying strip
club. I've only been to one strip club
in Minnesota. Oh.
And of course seem to go to thatone.
Of course, I can't speak on strip clubs in Minnesota.
I can't speak on it. But like I said, being from

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Atlanta, strip clubs are part ofour culture.
You know what I'm saying? Like, we are right?
I went to my first strip club when I was like 14.
And that's just 'cause it's our culture.
We have the most strip clubs percapita in any city.
I think it's us. And then Miami, FL, I mean or
just Florida, period. So like you said, the strip

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clubs in Lai don't know which ones you frequent not to put you
on. Crazy girls, I think they close
crazy girls. Like a lot.
They just close it, right? And that's the thing, they're
trying to get rid of a lot of the strip clubs in every city,
every major city. But the thing with Atlanta is so
much part of ingrained in our culture that they're not a they

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can't. So those are the rules.
You can't erect a new strip clublike, oh, I got 80, I got money.
I want to build a strip club right here.
You can't. A strip club can only be, you
know, where it was already foundationed.
This is a strip club building foundation.
You can only put another strip club here.
You just can't put it wherever you want to.

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Like if Tyler Perry's like, oh, I want to put a strip club in
the studio, you can't. Strip clubs can only be where
they're already sanctioned to be.
You know what I'm saying? And The thing is, like I said,
so in Atlanta, the girls are butt naked all the way.
You know what I'm saying? They don't even have clothes on.
So you go into strip clubs in LA, they got different rules

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where they can't take their topsoff or different things like
that. Or they'd be like, hi, I'm a
stripper peekaboo and put it, you know, in Atlanta, they were
basically like having. Yeah, you're doing a good job
setting Atlanta for me. Yeah.
Girls are basically damn near having sex on the floor.
OK, OK, You already got me. You know, You know he.

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A rugby blue he don't know what's.
Going on and then just to put that in to give you another just
a level of aha moment. That's another reason why
Atlanta teams never wins. They're always partying
football. We have no Super Bowls.

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The Hawks have never been to thechampionship.
The. Braves.
Braves. The Braves.
The Braves won, but that's baseball, OK.
And baseball don't count. I mean, it counts.
It don't count. It counts.
I was just playing baseball counts.
But we've never won. And that's what that's the joke.
But it's also a little bit of reality.

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They we party to our. So when you were going to, you
know, acting classes and then you start going every week, how
long before you got your first role after that?
It's it's level. I mean, so first when you start
you green, like I said, I came into it, I didn't know nothing
about nothing. You just going to class, you
learning, learning the craft, learning, whatever.
But you start auditioning for little smaller projects like

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student films, anything you know, they're, they're, they're,
they're casting and booking things, you know, for their
real, to, you know, for their graduation.
And that's the, the trade off. You get to get real acting real
'cause that, you know, the game changes, you know, like that's
what I say. The acting game like changes
like every five years. So now in 2025, it's not the

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same when I started in like 2012.
Yeah, I started like 2012. The time's crazy, man blows by.
Like I said, it doesn't even seem like it.
Wow. I'm a veteran in in football
years. I mean, it's sports.
Think about it. You retire.
I'm a fat and then wow, you know, but whatever.
So that's the thing. You have to get a real.

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You couldn't get work unless youhad an actor real, you know what
I'm saying? Somebody like, oh, I like your
look, but do you have a real? So the more work you get.
I did this project, did this project, I did 3 projects and I
can pull clips from that to makemy demo reel to show directors
and producers that I'm good enough to, you know, yeah, be

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cast. So you would always just want to
get work. It didn't matter what you was
doing. You won't work.
I'm trying to build my reel up and my resume because that's how
it used to be. You used to have to show your
actual headshot. You would have your headshot, a
picture, a actual tangible picture with your resume on the

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back of it saying what you had done.
And they would read it and then be like, oh, OK, I want to set
you down for, you know, an audition.
It's, you know, it's different now.
Everything's digital. You get to just, you can send
video to anybody. You got this.
You could say I got a million followers.
I want to be in your project andthey're going to put you on

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because you got a million followers.
Like I said, those type of things weren't allowed, you
know, in the game when I first started.
So it transitions from that. Which which one you think is
better? It's not about one being better,
it's just different. It's to say which one is better.
It's definitely easier now 'cause like you said, you can

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make a, a, a, a, a reel of yourself right now.
You got cameras, you got everything.
You can just show yourself doingwhatever and send it to whoever
you used to have to actually tangibly, physically go out and
do this stuff. You have another job.
It's like. You know, and it was different
and like you said, so you can bein Minnesota at that strip club
you was talking about, but you can say I want to be an actor

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from Minnesota. Back then you had to come to LA.
You were either in New York or LA.
That was the only place you was going to be able to be an actor
at. So it's much easier now 'cause
it's just more access. The one.
Thing anybody can do anything now, so you kind of have no

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excuses. That's why when older people see
the things that the younger people have, that's why they
have those feelings. It's like, oh, I had it hard.
You. Couldn't have did it in the way
I did it. We deserve more praise because
we had to do it the old way. You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I'm just. It's.
Real. No, it's real.
You can do anything now and likeat this point 25 going to 26 you

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have access to any and everything.
So what is your excuse? Exactly.
That's the one thing I noticed. It seemed like, like you said,
the acting world has definitely changed because now they're
literally picking people becauseof their followers.
They like, well, we get access to 10 million followers over

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here and this gentleman might bea better actor, but he only has
150,000 followers and they're literally now leaning towards
the guy that has 10 million, which doesn't make any sense.
150 you get you gave him too much.
So the like I said, that's a lot.
You got 150,000 followers, that's a lot, but whatever.

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So and being from the world, I know both sides of it.
I know those people with the 10 million followers that you're
talking about, and then I know the real deal thespians and
actors who've been training to be an actor since they were 10
years old. And they don't even have
Instagram or it's not like that.Like no, I'm a real student of

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the game, student of the craft. Like I said, that person will
act this $1,000,000 following person under the table.
That person will act Will Smith under the table.
You know what I'm saying? No, no, shout out, no smoke the
Will Smith so base got but you get what I'm saying.
But this person will never get the opportunity.
I know because that's just the game.

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Like I said, it's it's a mix up.So those type of people on that
side of the demographic are upset that these million
follower people or whoever, likesomebody said I lost my job to a
love and hip hop person. So which is a joke, but it's
also true. Like I said, I know this person

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from love and hip hop that is anactor and has a million
followers and I'm cool with them.
But the other side is saying that's not a real actor what I'm
saying? No, I get it.
I get it. This person is not trained and
done the things that this personis saying that they have done.
Like I said, it's two sides of the sword, two sides of the

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coin. I know both sides.
So God I, I I. I get it both ways.
And I get it both ways. This person is saying that's
fucked up. And this person is also saying
don't hate on me and hate on my situations, my blessings, my
opportunities, whatever, you know what I'm saying?
So it is what it is. And.

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It definitely took effort to get10 million followers.
However you got them, you know what I'm saying?
What did you do to get them? But it's still the fact of the
matter is whatever that person is doing, this person over here
is saying you are not trained onmy level.
You have not put in the hours ofwork into the craft that I have
put in. You know what I'm saying?

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I feel I deserve more of that opportunity than you do.
And it just is what it is because I've been on set with
some people and they're not trained and they don't know the
lingo. They don't.
Yeah, they don't, you know what I'm saying?
It's just like you taking a person who's never played
football and you throwing them in a in a, in a championship
game. They're going to, you know what

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I'm saying? They're going to stick out like
a sore thumb. They're not going to know what
they're doing. And it's the same thing when you
grab somebody and throw them into this world.
Like it's think about it. If you want a basketball court
with four NBA balls like yourself and y'all you know,
playoff ready and you grab a kidfrom high school.
He ain't going to understand what's going on the ball.

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The game is played a certain waybecause everybody understands.
The flaw? He will stand out.
He don't know what, Yeah. You will say this kid does not
belong on the court. Absolutely so.
And that's the same thing in this world.
You know what I'm saying? We filming directors saying
this, give me that. Like one time director said,
hey, all right, hey, talking to this person said give me, give

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me a beat. That that means, you know, take
a second, right, Give me a beat.Give me two beats before you
come in and say your line, the director said.
Give me a beat, this motherfucker.
Oh shit. You start beating so like, you

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know it's funny to me. I loud.
That was fucking hilarious. But the other, like I said,
trained thespians and real piss.They they losing their.
Minds stormed off the set. Damn that.
Pissed off. Because it's no, because it's
levels to it. I'm in here doing the work my
craft. I'm in here doing.

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I take this shit seriously. You got this motherfucker in
here that can't play with us. I shouldn't be playing with this
person. He's messing up the integrity of
what we do. That's what they're saying.
Do you get what I'm saying? I know.
I know what you. Mean, I get it from both sides.
I get it. Like I said, I'm the middle man.
I'm with them, I'm with the million million follower people

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and I'm with the real. That's beings who say that
stuff. I get it.
But do you get the analogy? Are you trying to win a game
with four NBA Ballers? Why do y'all have this person
that's not supposed to be out here with us?
We can't win when he's messing us up.
We are not going to win. Yeah, because I, I come from

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more of a classical train, like even though it was more with
digital cameras, more classically trained film, you
know, I got my masters in LMU. And at first it took me a minute
to kind of adjust with the TikTok, the YouTube, which is
what you said. If you bring in like a YouTube
cameraman to an actual film set,he's going to be stepping on a
lot of people's toes because, you know, you do everything.
And then it's like, you start going to start touching stuff

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that you shouldn't be touching. And people going to be like,
man, who the fuck is this guy? Who is this?
Whose man is this? Why is he here?
So does it make it really awkward on a set when you have
people that are little green andyou have thespians like yourself
on the set and you're like, theydon't get it?
Or do you play Big Brother to them and help walk up to it?

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Like I said, and that's, that's just who I am, man.
You know what I'm saying that you see the energy that I'm I
have now. It's it's just genuine every
everyday energy. I'm going I'm not standoffish.
I'm a I'm a talk to you. I'm a blend with you.
So you can hit the ground running because at the end of
the day, we trying to win, right?
It's not about me scoring 30 points and you then do nothing

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and I get to say ha ha, you trash.
No, we on the team, if you suck,we all suck.
So I want I want everybody around me to to be winning and I
do that. I try to uplift everybody within
the situation. But like I said, you can't make
someone NBA ready in 5 minutes in 30 minutes.
So it's just levels to it. So it it, it's rough like you

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said. So I just always try to make
people comfortable within because if you on the set and
the cast is doing this, it's going to be a rough day.
Nothing, nothing like filming for 12:15 hours with people
that's fighting because it affects everybody else.
Whatever the cast is doing is going to affect everybody else

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on the set, behind the cameras, behind the scenes, whatever.
Everybody happy and hug and we having fun.
It's going to be a fun day. You have 12 hours of fun and
family and kicking. Some people might, you know,
might get a shot and you know, whatever.
But if it's smoke, it's going tobe a long, nasty, rough day of
filming and working, man, Nobodyand nobody wants to work, right?

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You want to come have fun? You have to work for 12 hours.
Rough Blue. How'd you get the name Blue?
That's a very, very unique name.Little boy Blue.
Man, how'd you get that? I was, I said I was blue when I
was born in color. Oh, just just that's it.
And your mom was like we callinghim Blue.

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Baby, baby boy blue, little boy blue.
And it's funny, we were just talking about this, but it's
always people run up on me and ask me, are you named after Blue
Ivy? Which is ridiculous 'cause
obviously you're older than BlueIvy.
Like yeah, I'm named after a 5 year old girl.
Yeah, I'm totally named after Blue Ivy.
Jay-Z and Beyoncé stole my sweat.

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There you go. That's all they did Long.
Time before her I I was here before Blue Ivy.
No smoke. BII don't.
I don't want no smoke. But it's the truth.
Shout out the Blue Ivy. But I was I was blue before.
How did you end up on like getting casted on the game?

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I got so many questions. No, but that's it.
See, like you said at the beginning, like what's it like
booking at the beginning? So like I said, when you were
just trying to get anything to put on your demo reel, you're
working, you're working, you're working, but you still had the
audition. You still have to be chose, You
know what I'm saying? So like, OK, this is a bullshit

(28:01):
project or whatever. It's nothing.
It's what if somebody compared to $100 million project?
It's a student film that I neversee the light of day, but they
still had castings for hundreds of people.
You still got chose. And then that started happening
frequently. I kept getting chose and I'm
like, OK, they picking me, right?

(28:24):
You know that's a win, you know what I'm saying?
Within the game, it's just like sports.
You don't know that you're good until you play other people or
someone else tells you that you're good.
You know what I'm saying? You just in your backyard doing
your stuff. You're not, you don't know.
And then you get in a game or get in someone else and you
cross somebody up and you dunk on them.
You're like, oh. I do this.

(28:45):
I do. This I'm I'm kind of good.
So that's what it's like you kept getting kept getting chose
so it grows mentally. You know what I'm saying?
First it was a joke and I'm a homies laughing at me and
calling me a clown. You ain't no actor.
Oh, you acting now you know actors are gay, right?
You know that that type of stuff, that's what comes from

(29:09):
the hood. The stereotypical stuff.
Like I said, no one in my familydoes this.
I'm you know, no one in the hooddoes this.
I fell into it the way that I did.
I'm the only person that does this amongst my like real
friends, you know what I mean? So now that I'm successful
within it, they still don't see that.

(29:30):
Hey man, I saw you in that punk ass movie.
You on TV looking like a punk. You know that's like so but back
to see it's it's rough that's that's that's the black
community. You know what I'm saying?
They. They can be tough.
Yeah, that's just saying that's.Just showing what them zeros
look. Like sometimes stereotypical
things that we do, man, you knowwhat I'm saying?

(29:50):
The things that are not norm when you go against something
that's not normal. And at that time, me saying that
I'm hey, man, I've been going toacting class.
I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm thinking about being an actor.
What are you talking about? You know what I'm saying?
Like Negro, please. But back to the point, you keep
getting chose and you keep and then you start getting more
auditions and a bigger audition like the game and then you book.

(30:15):
Then I book the game and I'm like, oh, shit, this real.
This ain't no student film. This the biggest show on TV at
the time, you know what I'm saying?
So this is, people actually are seeing me.
I still got chose over all theseother dudes, 100 other cats that
look just like me or, or whatever.
They chose me. And then you do that and you go

(30:37):
and go on this production, like you said, the game where it's a
$50 million production or whatever at the time opposed to
my $500 student film that I justdid and they fed us Little
Caesar's pizza. You know what I'm saying?
Same thing when I book. I'm on Fast and Furious when
they filmed it in Atlanta with the rock and I'm kicking it with

(30:58):
the rock and I'm there and I'm doing all that and you see the
levels of the just the vast difference of it.
It's $100 million production, you know.
What I'm saying? Right, that's what I'm saying.
We eating lobster, steak and shrimp every day.
Really. Every day.
Lobster is crazy. This is what's going on on major

(31:19):
productions. They spend millions of dollars
on food alone. So we on fast 5 and going crazy
opposed to when I'm on the bullshit and we eating $5 Little
Caesars, you know what I'm saying?
Hot and ready pizzas. So it just gives you a level of
the difference. So mind you, like I said, did
the game and then you know already I'm like, OK, these
motherfuckers then paid me to dothis, to come clown and have fun

(31:41):
and just be with this good energy.
I'm like, I'm doing this like this is what I'm doing.
And then like you said, when youdo a level like the fast 5 and
you eating lobster, steak and shrimp every day and the
director and the producers like I'll, I'm tired of eating
lobster steak and shrimp. Here's the here's get the credit
card. Go get $1000 worth of Wendy's.
You know what I'm saying? I want a burger.

(32:04):
Fuck the lobster steak and shrimp that we got laid out in
sushi today. I want burgers and fries go, you
know, that type of shit. And it's just like, wow, money
isn't an object here. And then like at that time it
was still like recession time, you know what I'm saying?
And people like, oh, we need checks what we doing for work.

(32:24):
And I'm like, *** I just took home a pan of lobster tails
because they were going to throwit away.
I'm like, I'm going to take thishome to my homies.
They go eat this. So I'm like, fuck that.
This is what I'm doing. I'm whatever other ventures I
had. Everything I said, I'm putting
all the cards into this because ain't no recession on these
movie sets. What's the checks?

(32:45):
Look, the checks don't bounce, they clear, so they clearly
ain't got a short of money. They throwing away steak every
day. What scenes did you film for
Fast 5? I was a security guard, man.
I didn't say I was the. I didn't.
I didn't say I was the lead, no.No, I saw, I I saw that, you
know, you're. Yeah, yeah.
No, I was. Wondering, 'cause I'm a I'm a
big fan of the movie and you know it.

(33:07):
Was one of the one of the rocks goons in fast?
They cut a lot of my scenes out,but I still got, hey there, how
many days they do the scene whenthey flew in and we came in and
took over the airport. Yeah, yeah, man was strapped up
with guns and all that shit. It was cool as hell.
And like I said, and then peoplelike, oh, man, I thought you
could have a bigger part. It isn't that.

(33:28):
I'm like, shut up, shut up. But no, it's just is what it is.
But it's still that's what opened me up to just the levels
and possibilities of more like Isaid, now that I'm taking this
serious, I'm going to do this now.
You know what I'm saying? Cut that out now.
It's not a joke anymore. I'm not it's not a hobby.

(33:52):
I'm like, the hell with that. I'm putting all the chips in on
me and I'm gambling. And that's and that's what
happened. So double down and and just keep
going with it within Atlanta because all of this is stuff
that filmed in Atlanta and I kept booking, kept working, kept
booking all the things. And that's what it is.
You do day player, you know whatI'm saying?
You get booked to be on Being Mary Jane, but I'm only doing 2

(34:14):
episodes, you know what I'm saying?
Right? Because it's in Atlanta.
They're hiring local talent. I'm Atlanta, local to everything
that's filming in Atlanta. Being Mary Jane Devious Maids.
It's so long ago bro. Like like I said, the time, how?
Was the game because Tasha Mack to me was one of the funniest TV

(34:35):
characters, Top five characters that ever hit TV, period.
Just dope I. Love the whole.
Situation with that shows dope bitch shut out to pooch.
You know what I'm saying? Pooch Hall like I said, doing my
scenes with him 'cause like I said, I was on the team and we
did our doing our scenes in the locker room just showing me love
and doing all that and like I said, just seeing like 'cause he

(34:56):
like I said pooch was a big deal.
I mean still a big deal that's my dog.
That's my big bro. He's still a big deal.
But like I said, at that time, the game was like that and just
being with them and they showinglove.
It was and and the fact that it was a football situation.
So it was just like the best of both worlds.
And I was just, you know, elatedman.
Like I said, and I'm like, fuck this, I'm doing this.

(35:20):
I want to be like pooch. I want to be like, I'm like, I
can do this. If not, I wouldn't have been
here. I didn't get here by accident.
That's how I look at things. The universe shows you and God
show you and you got to be able to take advantage of it.
And that was one of those situations.
They make you run route for the.We was out there.
Playing like for the audition. Running.

(35:41):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because that situation, we was
just acting, was in the locker room acting like football
players. You know what I'm saying?
I went hired as a football player, hired as an actor, but
when we got in it and then we get to put the pads on and
stuff. Now we out there and I'm telling
them like yo, y'all doing this shit wrong.
Y'all look, you look trash. Let me show you how you supposed

(36:03):
to be doing that. And like I said, those were the
levels that they've rocked with me with pooch and and all of
them. You know what I'm saying?
It was like, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he clearly, he know what
he talking about. I'm like, ain't nobody wearing a
pad like that. Ain't nobody lining up like
that. You can't fake being a football
player, just like you can't fakebeing an actor.
You know, you have to get some authenticity to it.

(36:26):
So it it was fun, man. Anytime you get the tie the two
in sports and and and acting it's the best.
What position did you play in football?
Everything. Everything when you played, you
played in Arena, right? But.
Wide receiver. Wide receiver.
Because like you said, I'm not the biggest, but I'm, I'm fast

(36:48):
and I'm, I'm quick quicker than everybody.
So I figured wide receiver opposed to other parts when I
played, I like, I played quarterback, I played
cornerback, I played, I played everything.
Like I said, it was just like that because we've played
forever. But I knew I could always, you
know, get around people, do whatever I needed to do.

(37:08):
And the thing with me was going to the league, kick return, punt
return. I knew if I could make a team
returning kicks, I've always have a spot on the team because
they need a kick return. That's what I did.
What do you consider your breakout role was that's far in
your career so far? I know you probably feel like

(37:29):
you haven't got to it, but as far as as far as right now you
like. Definitely no P valley and and
ruthless everyone. I mean I'm saying people know me
from all type of different things when they see me like Oh
shit, blue, I love you and I'm like and what?
And every time somebody will saya different thing, somebody will
say ruthless, somebody say, oh, I love you, man, you killed in

(37:50):
the P valley. Then somebody will say monogamy,
a show that I did that was crazydope, but they it was on All
black. It got cancelled.
Myself, Jill Marie Jones, DariusMcqueary, Eddie Winslow from
from family matters. You know what I'm saying?

(38:11):
That show, Vanessa Simmons, she played my wife.
We were wife swapping. OK.
That was the project, 4 couples and they all swap wives and it's
called monogamy. Yep, it was just like I said.
If that show was on a different network it would have been
crazy. I wasn't working with Darius
Mccrary. That's what you're saying yeah.

(38:32):
Y'all, y'all, y'all don't have him on here.
No, yeah, see, like like I said,another see, that's the thing.
See, I'm an actor and I'm doing this and I'm working with all
these people that I grew up watching.
I watched him as a kid. That what I'm telling like, bro,
you raised us. Family matter.

(38:54):
Urkel and Eddie Winslow, they raised us.
So when now it's coming around full circle and I'm working with
these people and they're tellingme that I'm the fucking man.
Blue, you so dope. Damn, you want man.
You wanted the youngest coldest.Right.
And I'm just like, what, you know what I'm saying?

(39:16):
It's it's mind blowing because you just don't expect that
stuff. And I'm a humble person, man.
My humility and I don't walk around like I'm something that
I'm not. But to hear those people give me
that, like I said, you don't know that you're good until
someone else tells you that you're good.
And to get it from people like that, it's just crazy.

(39:39):
It's insane. And he's been doing this since
because, I don't know, he's 50. He's 50 years old or older.
Like I said, he's been acting longer than I've been alive.
He's been doing this since he's five years old, man.
His stories are insane. Dave Chappelle, Charlie Murphy
telling Rick James stories. He got the same thing man.

(40:02):
Anyone that any story that you might want to share with us?
I. Can't put my man on blast.
But no, I'm saying because he is, because we've done like,
like I said, we did that one, which was crazy monogamy.
We we did multiple seasons, but we've done like, yeah, we don't
film like two or three movies together, but that's, that's my
big dog man. And he's always in the in the

(40:23):
media for some wild shit. He's always doing some wild
stuff. But he is a talent and he is old
black Hollywood, you know what I'm saying?
He got old black Hollywood stories that are just insane.
And he comes from a music family.
His parents and his, you know, family had a musical group or

(40:44):
something like that. They used to write music for the
Jacksons and Michael Jackson andstuff.
Yeah, like the Jackson 5, it's like that.
And they used to open for them on tour and stuff.
Like he is a industry person. He's been in it.
He's born in it. And yeah, his stories are nuts.
Eddie Murphy's stores, his Rick James, like I said.

(41:04):
And he had a crazy relationship with Rick James.
Like I like I said y'all got to get him on here.
I got to look Dee, I just plugged you up.
You got to come talk to the people man.
I can't I can't tell your stuff.You got to go tell it.
I just gave you a big shout out though, having you to you, bro.
But it's just cool, man. Like I said, doing this in this

(41:27):
walk now that I've been in for 10-15 years going on and it
doesn't even seem like it because the time flies, man.
And it's still fresh to me even though I've been doing it for a
long time and you're doing it and you're doing it but it's

(41:47):
still fresh. And people said that like, oh,
you, you've been working a lot. You go burn yourself out.
You go get tired of it. I don't get tired of it because
it's always a new situation, always new energy, always a new
city, always a new set, always new people.
Just like I just you know what I'm saying?
Like I'm doing this with y'all now.
Now we lock in and we you know what I'm saying?

(42:09):
The opportunities and things, it's just always fresh for me
like that. And I come from the other side.
I'd like you said the both sidesof the sword.
I know so many people that are without and how dare I act like
I'm I'm I'm too good to go to work or you know what I'm

(42:30):
saying? So that's why they'd be like God
damn Blue Man, I see you always working, you're working, you're
working, you're working. I'm able I'm young.
Even though I'm we getting old, I still feel young.
You look young. Well, I'm going to receive that
boss. I still am able.
I feel young. Like I said, we going to be
forever 25. Let's.
I heard that. 25 at at at the heart at the core, man.

(42:54):
So long as I'm young and I'm able and people want me, I'm
always go come do this shit witha smile man.
How's it working with Tyler Perry?
The worst no, just playing man, Tyler and and again, just to
like you tapped into the Darius shit and any and everybody same

(43:17):
thing. You don't know that you're good
to other people tell you that you're good.
And me doing that and working and being around all those
people and and growing in the craft and learning.
I'm always watching just like ifyou was doing something, I'm
watching you. And if I'm a steal your moves,
just like in sports, you see somebody doing something like

(43:38):
yo, you see him hit him with youknow, just like Allen Iverson.
How many people stole his crossover?
Because it. Yeah, because it was like that
and it had to just become part of everybody's game.
If you couldn't do Iverson crossover, you're not a
basketball player. It become a default move.
So it's the same thing with life.

(43:59):
You see somebody making good financial moves, still they
moves. You see somebody doing good
things and being a good person, still they moves.
Just like Kobe did Jordan, he saw who was the man and he
copied his moves. What's your best Tyler Perry
story? Maybe giving the people a little
insight on about Tyler Perry because I heard these dopes.

(44:21):
I heard these super dope. For Ruthless, you've acted in
over 100 episodes and he's and he's directed 80 shit.
So there there must have been like no, no interaction with no.
I'm just saying 100 episodes, man, that's nuts.
See, like I said, y'all are running my stats and stuff down
to me and I haven't even trackedthem myself.

(44:41):
And like you said, I'm this, that, this, that.
That's all. I'm like damn, 100 episodes.
You got to celebrate your wins, man.
We don't do that enough, Kelly, celebrate your wins.
You're a winner. But yeah, man, Congrats.
Thank you for saying that. Damn, that's crazy.
So any. No, I'm just going to get back
to the truth. No, because you're getting me in

(45:03):
my head, man. I'm just up here recanting
myself. Bro this is nuts.
How was the first time you met Tyler?
Perry no. So you get, like I said, so you
get brought into this stuff, manTyler Perry, I've been in
Atlanta and he's been in Atlantaand the fact that now I'm with
him is crazy. So for me to get pulled into his

(45:25):
world, that mean he saw me and recognized that I was, you know,
doing my thing. Because if not, he wouldn't even
have put me in a situation to audition and have meetings with
him for this situation, you know, for the the roles and
stuff. And it's just dope.
So we had it like that and TylerPerry, we were in, we were in

(45:46):
Hollywood and where were we at? But whatever he like, rented
out, you know, had the whole hotel on lockdown and we were
all, he had a whole bunch of different people that he wanted
to see in the Hollywood Hotel. And that's how he did the
initial castings for all. Yeah, like I said, all the hot
people in LA at the moment. And he had them out there in

(46:08):
front and he was like, blue, come here.
And he screamed, you know what I'm saying?
He like Holly, Blue come here. And I'm like, Yo, PP know me
like that. And he was like, look, man, I've
been watching, you've been doinga lot of good stuff.
And I, and I, I really, I reallywant to see what you can do with
this because I, you know, I, youknow, that type of deal and you

(46:30):
know, it kind of kind of messed you up a little bit.
I'm like, oh, but then at the same time it's like, no, I'm
not, I'm not you don't, you know, I let him know.
OK, cool. I'm like, man, I respect, I
respect all of that. And he was like, you're not
nervous, are you? I'm like, I'm not, I'm not
afraid of you, Right? I, I respect what you got going
on because Tyler Perry's like 6-7, bro.

(46:52):
He's huge. He's supposed to be AD.
Lineman. I didn't even know he was 6/7.
He ain't no little man, bro. OK, he big.
OK, he big bro. You're a big guy, but that's
what I'm like. I'm like, I ain't scared.
He like what I'm like, I'm not scared of you, boss.
I respect you, but I'm, I want to, I want you to know that I'm
coming in here to do what you know.

(47:13):
And, and after that I, I feel like we just had a mutual love
and respect for each other, but no TP man.
Just being able to work with himand do the things that he's
doing. Like I said, he's the biggest
man, black man in Hollywood in the game.
Who else has five production deals?

(47:34):
He got BT, Netflix, Amazon. His own studio, that's.
What I'm saying his own studio like that is insane and being
from Atlanta, like I said, I know what it is where he took an
old military base and turned it into a huge Disney World type
studio. It's nuts bro.
So to have him and like I said, seeing people that you been

(47:58):
watching that are now colleagues, peers, mentors,
friends, boss, it's insane. And like I said, mind blowing.
But you couldn't ask for a better situation with Tyler
Perry, man, because watching himand then like I said, you got to

(48:18):
respect his accomplishments. Even if you don't like his work
or whatever you don't like abouthim, you have to respect what he
has done for sure. As a man, as a black man, The
fact that he used to be homelessand now he living in his car and
now he's a billionaire and he's the biggest black man in the

(48:39):
industry controlling shit. Come on, man.
Yeah. Big salute TP that that's what I
call him. Big boss.
Big, big boss. What's 1 of the biggest lessons
you've learned from Tyler Perry?Too many, but like I said, when
he's pouring into you, like I said, his energy, because he's
like that, he's big and it's youcan just feel his energy.

(49:02):
But we were having, you know, when we have our talks, he was
like, what are you doing blue? What what else do you want to
do? And I'm like, I'm, I'm doing it.
You know what I'm saying? We doing it.
He's like, man, whatever you think that you're doing, it's
not enough. Do more.
Wow, do more. It's just that simple.

(49:27):
Part of him saying that part, itfucked me up because I'm like,
yeah, I'm like this motherfuckergot 10 shows on TV, 10 movies
out. He's writing, he's directing,
he's producing. I'm like, how is he doing all
this? I can't even get my laundry

(49:48):
clean. You know what I'm saying, 'cause
I'm like I said, I'm working andI'm doing this.
I'm, I'm filming. I got a pile of laundry at home
that that ain't even been foldedup.
And I'm like, damn. I'm like, yeah.
So same thing with him. And like Floyd Mayweather, the
same thing 'cause I ran into himand and when we 'cause we were
trying to make a Floyd Mayweather a movie years ago.

(50:11):
Oh, that was dope. I'm at the I'll show you the
picture. Man.
I should show it to you right now on camera, but same thing
with him. Whatever, like I said, people
get a little money and you like,oh, I'm gonna buy a car and I'm
doing something and then this Floyd will show up with 10 Rolls
Royces and diamonds and chains bigger than your life and throw
money. And then like you're not doing

(50:32):
nothing. Whatever you have is nothing
compared to him. That's just you know, that's
just some money team shit. When you when you look at money
on a on a, you know, on the specthat when you getting it.
But that's what Tyler Perry, he's like, you're not doing
enough. Do more.
That's one of the biggest thingsthat I don't took from him, you
know what I'm saying? Because he leads by example, by

(50:53):
all the shit that he's doing. Excuse my French.
You know what I'm saying? You, you're just content because
you filmed the episode. You're content because you got
some work. Do more and that's, and that's
why I have to do the things thatI'm doing.
You know what I'm saying? That's why I had to make the
production company. That's why I had to take control

(51:16):
of the of, of, of, of the work and the things that we are
putting out because of people like Tyler Perry.
How can I be around him? Like I said, you surround
yourself with people that you want to be like or, or aspire,
you know, iron sharpens iron. How can I be around him and not
take it to the next level? Did you say you were supposed to

(51:37):
play Floyd Mayweather? We tried you kind of look.
Like him but I I got to say a little light skinned to be.
Floyd Right, right, right. But you do look like like now
that you mention I'm like, oh shit.
You could be played you, like you said, when you know, like,
what's your dream roles or breakout.

(51:57):
I thought that was going to be it, Floyd's situation, but we
couldn't get it, you know, shoutout to Floyd and his team.
We couldn't couldn't get past the initial stages.
OK. Floyd is just a busy man, man.
I love Floyd. He he can't sit down like we, we

(52:18):
were supposed to have some sit downs like days in a row and he
blew, he blew us off and we like, yo, we like what's up?
We mean today they like, oh, Floyd and flew to Monaco.
OK, that's you. That's me as as fluid.
Oh no, that's crazy right there.You got to send us that picture

(52:42):
so we can put that on the screen.
That is crazy, right? There.
No, we we like I said, we were trying.
I sent, I sent it to you. Yeah, man, this was years ago.
That's that was that. Ain't never too late.
Oh. No, no, no, no.
It's still gonna happen. Anything can still happen, but.
That's he's fighting Tyson, you know?

(53:02):
That's like I said, that's him and his story and he got to be
ready to tell it when he want totell it.
Are you a big boxing fan? I'm just a big sports fan.
Yeah, you know, I love it all. I I love what happened, you know
what I'm saying? A big, that was a big fight for
boxing because it's taking a lotof people say it's taking a a
dive and you know, you got tank fighting.

(53:26):
That's. Crazy Paul.
That's nuts. Who's?
Going to win that fight. Who Jake Paul because he gonna
pay tank to lose. What are we talking about?
You think tank want, well, I guess an expedition so it don't
that don't really go on his record, right?
The thing is if you watch the tank interview, see kind of is
talking about he doesn't care about boxing.

(53:47):
So that's why I'm scared that hemight take the dive.
No, people like, and that's whatpeople have said that I can't
speak on take shout out the tankin his camp, whatever.
But people are saying like this is his exit strategy.
You, I mean his exit, you go seeJake Paul, give me $20 million
to do whatever your Jake Paul stuff is, and then he ride off
into the sunset. It's 50I heard his.

(54:07):
I mean, I'm just saying whateverthe payout is, it's 50.
It's 50. Oh, he definitely got a.
Probably about 300 million he leaving on the.
Table. We don't know that.
I don't know what he got and what he don't got, what I.
No, no, no. Yeah, you.
Saying what? He can go no is people will get

(54:30):
tired of being tank. You will get tired of training,
you will get tired of getting punched in the face.
You will get tired of being all in the light or whatever the
hell. Like everybody's not Floyd,
right? Floyd is crazy respectfully, but
that's why he's the GOAT, because he's psycho.
You got to be psycho to be crazy, just like Kobe.

(54:51):
Kobe was crazy. How many times you meet Floyd?
How many times did you meet Floyd A.
Couple. I love Floyd Floyd.
The only person I know, only person I know that buys out the
bar, won't take a sip. That's what I'm going.
To say y'all see Floyd and he's always on some Floyd shit.
He don't drink, he don't he don't drink.

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He don't do no drugs. He don't do.
He don't do nothing, he geeked up off himself.
I know. He is high off of being the
goat. Like I said, you got to be crazy
to be the goat man. But like I was saying so he
don't drink buy out the bar findout he was like well how far are
we from the house 7 miles. Go outside and jog to the.

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House, like I said, it's different.
The things I saw like, yeah, we going to the club and like you
said, when we get back from the club at 4:00 AM, three AM, I'm
he's in a train for three hours.All day.
Same thing with Jordan. Jordan then used to sleep.
Right, he didn't different. My my ex cousin used to, it was

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about marriage. He was married.
He was married to my cousin, my feet.
The only girl cousin in my family was married to a
basketball player on the Wizards.
So we got some Jordan Wizard interactions and he used to tell
us all the stories. I mean, you know, met him and
stuff, but he didn't sleep right.
Jordan didn't sleep. Go gamble all night, right?

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And then go to practice, you know, go do Jordan stuff.
Crazy bro. It is like that too.
He don't sleep. He.
Don't sleep. Like he's done a lot of cool
shit. Crazy successful people don't
sleep. I get off the phone with him. 11
PMI know he's awake by 5:00 AM. 04 hours you can.

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Do you get 4 hours sleep? You can.
Oh, that's it. That's all I need. 4 hours, four
hours. That's it.
And then depending on what you got to do, yeah, like I said,
especially if I ain't, I can, you know, if you ain't got a
super hard work day did. You get caught up in video games
since I know you played sports. I mean, I'm I'm a gamer, OK, not
like super to the match. Like I say, I'm a professional.

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One of my my homie, he he's almost a professional gamer.
That's dope. So he keeps me on my game stuff,
you know? Let's talk about your production
company that you started. Yes.
Sir. Viral Productions.
Viral productions, big shout outviral production.
We are coming. We launched Kelly, we have our

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first production. It's in the Film Festival market
right now. We got a couple awards pending.
So it's it's, it's a, it's a beautiful thing, man.
And A and A and A. And the timing, I would say, is
perfect, you know, because it's time for us to take control of
the narrative. There you go, he said.
In the game in Hollywood, we have to be able to tell our

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stories. You got to go catch up with
Floyd and say Floyd, let's let this be the one of our first
projects. We can do all that.
All of these things can be put into motion, like I said, and to
have Tyler Perry backing and have his support, you know what
I'm saying? It's, it's a beautiful
situation. Like I said, I couldn't be
around him without taking thingsto the next level.

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And that's what at this point, that's what the next level is
for me. Writing, creating, producing our
own projects, telling our own stories for us, for us.
No, no, no smoke. We got to because no one else is
going to tell it for us. You know what?
I'm saying we won't tell the truth then black.
People are more we're we're morethan drug dealers, basketball

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players and, and, and whatever stair negative stereotypes that
Hollywood only portrays us as. I see like A cause.
Tyler Perry has a deal now with Devon Franklin.
I saw you at the premiere. You know, it's like so.
And that was, like I said, that's that's a story from the
Bible and that's a story of love, black love.

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It has to be told by black people.
A white person can't tell that story.
White person can't talk about black love.
I'm sorry. Yeah.
It's just is what it is. It has to come from black
people. And these stories are made for
us, by us. And that's what the mission
statement of Viral and the production is taking control of

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our stories, our narrative, depicting us in the actual true
light. Because we have to do it for the
next generation, 2025 going forward.
You know what I mean? There's no classic movies for
this young generation. Got it.
So what's going to be this this this next generation?
That classic movie is going to be Friday.

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Yeah. That was 30 years ago, right?
How Friday going to be y'all? Classes, right?
No, that makes that makes sense.Love Jones basket, uh, loving.
Basketball. All that shit is 30 years old.
Damn, I ain't even thinking about that.
Because you don't same. We don't look at time like that.
So that is the mission of viral and and us in the production

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company. It's our job to create the next
generations classic movies. Man, what?
Do you think about movies like Sinners?
Awesome, 'cause it was made, written and created by black
people. And that's what that is a
perfect depiction of what I'm talking about.
You give black creators a budgetand the opportunity to do

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something. Look what they can create.
They created a story that was there as black vampires and it
was dope. One of the highest grossing R
rated films of all time. And that's the stereotype and
the lie because they say Black people can't create movies that
can sell overseas or that can break the box office.

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It's a lie. Yeah.
It's not the truth. It's a lie.
We are the most consumers. Black people spend the most
money. Absolutely.
Black people show the most support.
We, they, they want to support us.
That's the proof right there. Sinus is the proof.
So like I said, coming off Michael B Jordan and Cooler,

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like I said, they did they thingand that's the whole like when I
mean about the timing. Now you can't deny it.
You can't spread that lie anymore.
If you build it, they will come.If you make it, they will
support. It's all about making quality
productions and we are going to bring people back to the movies.
I love it. I want to get folks back to the
movie theater, man, just like Sinners did.

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What type of genres do you like to dabble in all?
All of them, all of it, because that's the whole thing.
It's like this Eddie Cass be like, oh, Blue, you working,
man? You doing your thing?
Why you ain't doing a Marvel movie yet, right?
You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't want to be in a
Marvel movie. Like I don't want to be a
superhero. Those chances aren't available

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for me. They don't write superhero
movies for black men. It was one role.
Chadwick got it. Yeah, Black Panther and.
That's, that's, that's, you know, that's my, my big bro.
Rest in peace, man. You know, he was part of the
family. You knew Chadwick?
One of my production partners isChadwick's best friend.

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Did you shout out to Logan Coles?
Another. Like I said, he's coming.
He's doing his thing. Like I said, we about to take
over, man. And what, What were you about to
say? Did you know, because his death
took a lot of people by surprisethat he was you weren't aware he
really, you know, like that's one of the most impressive shit
that you know, you're sick and then.

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Only a few people in his circle knew that he had cancer.
And we lost a great one that day.
And exactly. And like I said, and he was
another one of our kings and he got away.
So The thing is we have to take advantage of these times and
everything that we were doing, there's there weren't any more

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of Marvel opportunities for us. There's no superhero movies for
us. Like they said, like The Matrix,
there's no, where's the black Matrix?
There is none. They don't make that for us.
We have to make it ourselves. I don't want to be a drug dealer
and a crackhead basketball player, you know what I'm
saying? I have to make that for us.

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We have to make it for us because it doesn't exist.
And you can't sit here and wait for Hollywood and them to make
it, because it will never happen.
So within your production company, are you guys creating
scripts? Buying scripts?
Looking for scripts. Yes, we have so many different
scripts already written and put into place, so many ideas,

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original IPS. Like I said, 100, the first one
is 117 years. Yeah, we see that.
Bullshit. That's the name of it. 117 years
of movie bullshit. What's that one about?
That's the amount of years sinceslavery was ended, and then it
it plays on the genre of all thebullshit that black people have
gone through in Hollywood up until this point, since going

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with the wind all the way. That's the.
Time now you know what I'm saying to show what we went
through to get to this point that blue can be up here and say
I'm a black actor now it's a youknow, jokey satire, you know
dark comedy, you know it's good you know, and it's in the film
festivals and it's doing it's thing because it's the truth.

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We have to highlight that, like I said, we're slaves or we're
drug dealers or we're crackheads.
In the, in the 70s era, we were nothing but pimps.
And you know, so each genre, it jumps from that.
It jumps from the, you know, jumps from the slave era, then
it jumps to the 70s, it jumps toSuperfly, then it jumps to, you
know, the 2000s. And it's just then it's all the

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way to present day. And like you said, we got to
make the movies we want to see. Exactly.
There are so many more stories to tell besides Oh yeah, I got a
gun and I sell crack and I'm trying to make it out the hood.
That is not only thing that black people are no smoke to
that because that's a part of our culture as a part of our

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life, but we're more than that right.
Everybody, everybody can't be a thug.
Everybody can't be from the streets.
The streets are done and I'm telling you that and whoever in
2025, the streets are over. You're trying to be a thug in
2025 going forward, you are a loser.

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I'm just keeping it real becausethe things that people used to
do, you can't do anymore. You can't sell drugs anymore
because it's so the the rules are different.
Cameras is everywhere, feds are everywhere.
It's just a different situation.And if you out doing crimes, you
going to get caught. For sure you can't hide
anything. Like, you know, local legend

(01:05:44):
Young Thug. Don't like Young Thug and and
and people are snitching, breaking the street rules and
whatever. Like I said, yeah, be better, do
more. You know why people become St.
dudes and drug dealers and what?Because it's easy.
It's easy. It's easy to be a thug.

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It's easy to wake up, oh, at noon and I'm going to go rob
somebody. I'm going to go kill.
I'm going to go whatever, you know what I'm saying?
I'm going to break some laws. It's hard to go to school, it's
hard to say. I want to learn.
It's hard to be better. It's hard to do more.
Being a thug in the street. Dude is the easy way out and I

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don't care. I'm going to get look people go
talk shit about it. I don't want to see no more
thugs. We over it, but be better.
Do better. Be more like Obama.
I want to see more Obamas. Be be a Barack Obama type.
Dude come from the hood. He was from the hood.
He was from the projects. Fought his way out.
He made it out and did so much more.

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I'll say this though, because I'm a big fan of the American
crime genre and I'm a big, I'm a, I'm a big fan of American
gangsters. And The thing is, what I've
noticed is, you know, black people, Latinos, like I like
when they do Goodfellas Casino, Godfather, nobody bats an eyes

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like, oh, you know, but then once you start doing that, you
know, black crime genres, then it's like, oh, it's like it's
the stereotype. It's the, this is the that.
And but you have people like Frank Lucas who dominated the
game. You see the standard?
It's a double standard. When they do it, it's cool and
glorified. Yeah, we do it.
We're the worst people on the planet.

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That's what I'm saying. So we have to show a difference.
We have to show more. We didn't shown that we can beat
thugs. We just shown that we can be
gangsters. We have to show a different side
and we have to improve because you see what they trying to do
to us now in the climate of the day.
What's going on with the division with every damn body
bro, you know what I'm saying? So that's what I and us and

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minds and everybody going forward is going to represent
the passing of the torch from our generation to the next.
Because like you said, we talking about our old movies and
you talking about American gangster stuff.
It's telling stories of from the70s, from the 60s.
You can't do that shit today. It's you can't.

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You're going to go to jail. You won't, you won't be
successful. It's going to be very hard for
you to be Frank Lucas, in 2025. You know what I'm saying?
And. You shouldn't try to be frank,
Luke. No, I'm just saying you
shouldn't. No, I'm never we not going like
I said, we not going to promote that, but I'm just, we like it.
It's intriguing. We like to learn about it.
It's history, it's part of history.

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But I'm saying going forward we need to do better and we are the
generation like I am that can bridge the gap from the old to
the new. That's the difference between
the generations. This new generation don't know
nothing about grandma and, and, and you know that in the 60s,
'cause you see them, you see them on the Internet, they don't
even know what tapes are CD players and stuff.

(01:09:00):
Do you understand what I'm saying?
I'm like, am I that fucking onlythat you don't even know what a
CD or a DVD is. No, I saw that.
That shit was hilarious. They was asking the rookies from
the NFL. They were showing them different
and yeah, they were like clueless.
They didn't know what a DVD player was.
Like I said, an actual DVD or actual CD disc.

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And I'm like, am I that old? So you see what I'm saying?
So we can still bridge that gap for them and the generation
before us. So that's the mission.
How much do you think going to Stillman College HBCU kind of
shape your in the way you think today?
Or so same thing as we talked about like being from Atlanta,

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just being from Atlanta, Chocolate City, it puts a
different mentality on you, a different energy.
I'm from Atlanta and that city alone, it's not like no other
city, because in Atlanta we wereable to see successful people.
You're able to see successful black lawyers, black dentists,

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black doctors, you know what I'msaying?
We've always had a thriving successful black community, not
just the street shit. We got that too.
Of course, that's that's every city, but we've always known
that you can do more. Like when I brought people to
Atlanta for the first time, theywould just be, Oh my God, I've
never seen this many black people before.

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Like I would bring people from LA like, Oh my God, everybody in
Starbucks is black. The people working at Starbucks
is black. And like, Oh my God, it would be
a shock that you would see that many black people.
Blue. It's the only city in the United
States I feel safe. And I'm here to tell you, not
for real. Like when I get pulled over
there, I'm not even tripping. I'm like, Oh no, that's going to
be easy. Whatever, Whatever it is, we can

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figure it out. Like I'm just, I don't, they
don't view me as a threat. They look at me as some as their
cousin, their nephew, their friend, the person across the
street, a family member. They look at us different
because we all black there. It's the only city in the United
States I feel safe, and I love Atlanta for that.

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And that's like I said, being from Atlanta gives me that type
of energy because you see that and you go to other cities and
like, this ain't like home, right?
It's not like Atlanta. You go to other cities and you
get it. And he's like, oh, it's, it's
this, it's that it's whitewashedit, you know what I'm saying?
One of my homies is from Kansas.And like I said, Kansas.

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So it's the opposite. He would be the only black
person in his class, you know, throughout elementary school,
middle school, you know what I'msaying?
But in, in Atlanta, it's the opposite.
We never saw a white person, youknow what I'm saying?
You don't get exposed to a whiteperson until you're in middle
school or you're in like 5th grade, like, oh, we got a white

(01:11:58):
boy in the class. You know what I'm saying?
Everything you do is around black people.
You grow up around the culture. So that energy is on you
mentally and spiritually when you go out thriving.
And I feel like that's why a lotof Atlanta people are successful
because you see it and you know where you come from.
You can go to other cities and other things and you can you can

(01:12:21):
make. It pop, you don't have to be a
sports person when you from Atlanta because you can see it.
Oh no, I can thrive. I can be mayor, you know what I
mean? I could be a senator.
I've never seen, I've never seena white mayor since I've been
alive. Yeah, I know.
Yeah, I don't. We've had a black mayor every
since my existence. You know, I feel like they're

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going to try to stop that prettysoon, you know, with all the the
bullshit that's going on with usnow, you know, you know,
political wise. But yeah, do you know what I'm
saying? Atlanta's like that.
It's it's a chocolate city. And it's a blessing to be from
Atlanta and sure to see the different things.

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And then we get the culture where not like I said,
everything else from the doctorsand all that, But then the music
culture took off. Everyone is there musically and
creatively. Like I said, before we had Black
Hollywood, Atlanta was a music capital.
I mean, pillar, like you had to come through Atlanta to show
love musically. So like we've always been that

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city for us. So we don't have the music game
on lock. Then we got black Hollywood and
everything on lock like that. So Atlanta's been that place,
man. Was P Valley shot in Atlanta or
LA Atlanta? Atlanta.
How did that, because we kind ofglossed over how did that
opportunity come about? Atlanta same thing no, just

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working and getting the opportunities work generates
more work and that's what everybody be like man.
Why you always working? Work generates more work and I
feel like the universe rewards your efforts.
So that's why I'm always trying to generate.
I'm always trying to go. I don't get tired, no days off.

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That's those are the sayings. Don't get tired, no days off
because when you get tired and you take a day off, this other
cat is ready to take your job. He's ready to take the
opportunity that could have beenyours because you wanted to be
lazy about it. So same thing happened with P
Valley. Just working and coming across

(01:14:27):
and Katori Hall. Shout out to her to create a P
Valley. She's a genius, a creative
genius as well. She wanted to see me for, you
know, the role. And when we had the meeting, I'm
going through the script and we doing the stuff we having.
That's that's what it's you know, you having a a director
session, you know, that's what it's called.

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You sitting down with the director and the producers
casting and all that and you just having the director session
and we're going through it. And she was like blue, you
holding back? I can I can tell you, you hold
it back. Don't do that.
Let it out be a *** you know what I'm saying?
Let let and I'm like, oh, OK, soI put the stank on it.

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I could be full-fledged that. So any other time that you're
going to rolls and you're reading with I'm the only black
person, you reading with white people, you have to hold back.
You not you can't be a full-fledged black person.
You have to be Barack Obama or, you know, whatever.
When you're on the podium, you have to keep it now you know.

(01:15:38):
Oh yeah. Oh, wow, Haiti.
That's great. Yeah, you're G Willikers, you
know, whatever. It depends on the situation.
And that situation was black, full black, black script, black
creators, black writers, black producers.
And besides Tyler Perry, I've never seen that before.

(01:15:58):
Not on that level, not on, like I said, the different budgets.
You know what I'm saying? That amount of money, that type
of production with that amount of money has never been.
Black Yeah, that show was crazy though it.
Was nuts. It was wild.
And they get on there with them and you say, how was it?
Like I said, we got to let our hair down.
You didn't. I wasn't worried about oh, wait,

(01:16:20):
what did this person hear me sayor what did we we do?
Oh, we might get in trouble. Everybody was black.
It was like we were free and we were telling our story.
P Valley is a prime example of what I'm telling.
We're telling our stories with our lingo, our dictation, and
it's for us. It's not worried about what they

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going to say about it. We didn't make it for you,
right? If you want to come home and
look at it, tap in, but shut up,it's not for you.
You guys are going is that they're going to make AP?
Valley season P Valley is going right now.
OK, P Valley third season 3 is coming right now.
And has a big fan base any like inside the look thing that you

(01:17:01):
can share with, you know, P Valley fans?
Nothing about that. You know how that goes.
I'm talking too much about it already 'cause I shouldn't have
told you that it was filming, but there you go.
It's it's it's been released. P Valley Season 3 is coming and
that's like I said, that's one of the shows where the fan base
is is just like that. A.

(01:17:21):
Lot of sexual harassment coming your way.
Because of that. Yeah, because of the show.
Sexual harassment. Yeah, you look like a guy.
You look like a guy who gets harassed.
Oh, do I get sexually? Harassed.
Yeah. Because of the show and the fan
base. That's what I mean.
I look like a guy that gets sexually harassed.
Hey man, I don't want to, you know, I, I get harassed, you get

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sexually. Harassed all the time by who?
By men and women. Yeah, you said that.
It's the truth. It's the truth.
I wouldn't say sexually harassedbecause I don't.
I never feel uncomfortable. I never feel like I'm in danger,
but I do get advances. I do get unwanted advances.
I like that. I like that you are bold, big

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enough, bold enough, man enough to tell the truth.
You said you get harassed by menand women.
That's what's. Sucks.
And you know what I'll take it back.
I'm not harassed. It's unwanted approaches that
I'm not going to I'm. Not going to say that because I
don't want no smoke. Anything I say is going to get
smoke. Yes, I have all types of fans.

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Or. Or supporters.
I and I, and I appreciate all mysupporters, Man, woman, dog,
cat. So anybody that's rocking with
me, I'm rocking with you. Thank you, Blue.
Blue loves you. And I'm not speaking in third
person, but yeah, P Valley is nuts.
Blue has there been any roles that.
P Valley fans are nuts and the Tyler Perry fans are nuts.

(01:18:48):
Yeah, yeah, man. Blue, has there been any roles
that you turned down? And he was like, I should have
took that one. Yeah, yeah.
No, I'm saying it happens. No, I mean anyone that.
No, no, it's not about being specific what type of role, but
it happens because, you know, certain stories, like he's just
said, you know, when people ask are you OK being a gay character

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and this and that, we get all type of smoke stereotypically.
Like I said, for my community, the black community, I'm not
gay. I'm a heterosexual man, but it's
no smoke to anyone that is. But when you're depicting these
things on camera, our community tends to not be able to tell the

(01:19:31):
difference. That's true between filming and
making a movie, and it's a role between real life.
Because then they'll say if you did that type of role, that
means you must be that type of person.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
So it's levels that everything. So I think they forget you act,
you're an actor. But that's not the point.

(01:19:52):
That's what they see, right? People are very visual.
They do. They do what they see.
And what they see is what's real.
You know what I'm saying? So that line.
Has to be you. You got to watch that line.
Like I said, it's not that that's my goal to do those type
of roles. But then like I said, we spoke

(01:20:12):
earlier initially when you startand when we started, that was a
lot of roles that were being offered and I turned those down.
I'm like, I don't want to do that.
I don't want to portray a gay man.
You know what I'm saying? I'm not gay.
Why do you want to book me as a gay character?
Get somebody that's gay and they'll do it comfortably.

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You know what I'm saying? And do well at it.
I don't want to depict that. And I turned those roles down
and they could have been lucrative, but it was just at
that time. And then it came.
And they would be like, if you keep turning down these roles,
you keep shitting on these casting directors, you keep,
they're gonna blackball you or they're not, you know, you

(01:20:56):
understand, See. Do you see how that what I mean
about see? No, like it was a very touchy
situation, you know what I'm saying?
So it it it was, it was rough. I get it 'cause like once I ask
somebody to do and I can you do this and they say no, it's not
that I hold a grudge, but then maybe next time there's an
opportunity, maybe I don't thinkabout something.

(01:21:17):
Like I said, it's level crazy. But no, it's all.
And all of this goes into the levels of what I'm talking
about, about being able to depict and tell the stories that
you want to tell, right? Not what you're forced to tell.
I have to tell because you need a paycheck, right?
Because you got to pay your mortgage, you got to pay your
rent, you got to take care of your family, you got to do

(01:21:38):
whatever. At the end of the day, it's
still a job. You still working, want to work.
But at one point there were a lot, you know, in that era, like
I said, towards the beginning ofmy career, it was a lot of those
roles, you know what I'm saying?And they were being, they were
coming after us. And would you say there were

(01:21:59):
white productions in the beginning coming for those
roles? Both.
Because there's like a conspiracy because you know,
they, they, there's a, there's so many roles in each TV and
movies and then, you know, you obviously got your white
characters and then there's always the one or two minority

(01:22:19):
roles in that instead of like having 2 characters now they're
kind of like merging them together.
Not only, OK, we got a token black role, he's going to be
token black and gay, right? But then at the same time, like
you said, is that their intentions showing a black man
as a gay man. And there's nothing wrong with

(01:22:41):
that. But still, like I said, what you
see and what you show is power. You're showing a black man as a
gay man. When are you going to show the
black man as the leader? When you going to show the black
man as the superhero? When you going to show the black
man as strong and, and everything else?
Do you get what I'm saying? So that's why it's like, I don't
want to depict that character. I want to depict the other

(01:23:04):
character I just described. And those roles aren't offered
because you just said it. You know what I'm saying?
You're, you're this, you're the grunt, you're the token, you're
whatever. I want us to be shown in that
light. That's why you turn those roles
down, or that's why you have to make viral productions.
There you go, we can get those roles.

(01:23:26):
And that with Tyler Perry, you know, more creators, more power,
more. I couldn't believe he directed
80 episodes of Ruthless 'cause I'm like.
No, he was there 'cause when we first, like I said, from Season
1 until Season 5, he was there directly in every episode.
He was, like I said, writing, directing, producing, screaming

(01:23:49):
at people doing. And that's what I'm saying, like
how are you here able to do this, that and all this at the
same time? So, but then like I said, he got
the other deals and he got everything else going.
That's when he wasn't there ableto be on set with us anymore
because he has ten other movies that he's directing.
He's all over the place, man. He's the, he's the, he's the

(01:24:13):
king of, of, of black content right now.
And The thing is, he can't be the only one.
We have to have more. Tyler Perry can't be the only
one. That's why there you go.
We going to keep it. We going to keep throwing it up
and let him know that it's it's there.
Were you able to forge a a working relationship with Tyler

(01:24:36):
Perry's production company and your production?
Company we no he's definitely going to back any and everything
that I got going on like I said it's a blessing to have him as
the the pillar that he is the pillar to the community and the
pillar to the film industry. You know what I'm saying?
That's that's a situation that you you can't get from anywhere

(01:24:58):
else, right? So what projects you got coming
up? What project you want to do?
Me. Yeah.
What project I want to do? But no, it's the like I said, we
already in the Film Festival, wegot 117 in the film festivals

(01:25:21):
doing numbers. We have a couple things that's
on the table waiting for the inkto dry, you know, and then we
can get into pre production fromthose.
Like I said, I am just in a goodmind space and and the motion
that we have right now, man, forour timing, for everything

(01:25:42):
that's going on, it's time. And I feel like 2026 is going to
be the year, man. I love it.
Are you getting involved? When are you getting involved
with? With, With this?
With, with, with some stuff? Man, we're involved already.
We involved already. If you got big projects that
ain't like anything like that onthe table, definitely slide them
our way. We always take a.
Look at that. Did y'all hear that?

(01:26:03):
Make sure y'all hear that. So far, we got another silent
investor. For sure man.
But it's OK because you can knowthat you're going to be rocking
with quality, not no bullshit. And we're going to put on for
the culture. That's what it's all about.
You know what I'm saying? It's not about trying to be

(01:26:27):
super famous, man. That that stuff comes from doing
quality, doing work. And like I said, I've never
thrown myself out there. I throw my work out there and
people love and respect and rockwith me because of the work.
I always let the work do the talking.
Gotcha. That's where we at with this
man. He, you know, he was the host

(01:26:49):
and producer of a weight loss show.
We've done two seasons. I can.
I don't know if you know who BigJai is.
Oh, I know. Yeah.
So we're behind that. I know, I know, I know.
Y'all dealings. Y'all think I don't know what
y'all got going on? I'm gonna get in y'all pocket.
You know, we're fighting. We're fighting.

(01:27:10):
Got to fight, man. Like I said, time, and no better
time than the present. And I'm not waiting anymore
because that's what we've been doing.
We've been putting these stuff in motion.
Oh, I like what you got going on, you know, just wait, though.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We can do this for you, but just
wait. That's I think one of the
biggest lessons I've taken from me.

(01:27:31):
These is like do. Do it same you.
Know like, and it happens to me a lot that I overthink things
and he's like none, it's just Monday we're going to shoot so
figure it out. Yeah, just see.
See, he just like TP. Same thing Do don't, don't do
it. Same thing TP said.
Do more. Whatever you doing, you ain't
doing shit. What you.

(01:27:53):
Talking about I did this, I did that, I just filmed.
Yeah, it ain't shit. Do more.
I love it so. Thank you so much for joining
us. Yeah, man, we appreciate you
stopping. By we got to leave, I was ready
to spend the night up in this bed.
I thought we was go. Do all night like what's the
costume not streaming here? They streaming and filming all

(01:28:16):
night man we not doing that. Next time.
Yeah, next time, you know, next time.
I'm going to get some lobster rolls if you want to come with
me. What about the Magic City
strippers? I'm very not an experienced the
strippers and it has nothing to do with me not liking women.
It's more like why would I just like, you know, as a financially

(01:28:38):
just doesn't make sense to me, you know?
Financially he cheat. Finance so he cheat.
So what about when you start making X amounts of financials?
Then you will have a stripper budget.
So because I rather if, if I'm going to eat lobster, I rather
it come from the ocean than a fish tank.
You see what I'm saying? Wow.

(01:29:03):
He likes it. Wild caught.
Fresh caught. A little dangerous, you know,
but thank you again. We just got to take pictures and
then. We're going to get you a
stripper budget. I'm down 162 lbs in six months

(01:29:28):
and it feels great. Looking at myself in the mirror
is a trip. I marvel at myself now because
I'm like, man, I've done this insix months.
Six months is not that long ago.I started this program back on
July 1st at 288.5 lbs. Today I weighed in at 184.

(01:29:49):
When I first got here I was sad and depressed and stressed out.
Over time I regained my self esteem, my willpower, my
determination and those things have helped me to grow and
become happier with myself and in life.
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