Adam Pally

Adam Pally (Mr. Throwback, The Mindy Project) joins Ego as her dad for the day to discuss growing up with a rockstar/doctor father, being the bad kid in school, losing his mom young, and the parenting lessons he learned along the way. Adam also imparts some dad wisdom about which kinds of beer Ego should steer clear of.

Guest: Adam Pally

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is a headgun podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hi guys, I may go on and welcome to Thanks Dad.
I was raised by a single mom and don't have
a relationship with my dad. And here's the thing, I'm
never gonna have a relationship with him because it turns
out the guy is dead.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Now do you think that's funny? No, do you think
it's funny. I just wanted to see what you would do. No.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
I knew, and I felt like it and I failed miserably,
and I.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Knew, why did you just give me what I wanted?

Speaker 3 (00:42):
I can't tell anymore because the pause maybe laughed.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
I just I just want to see how people react.
It's like negotiating, where you just you're not you're supposed
to stop talking and then see what the other person says.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
There's an there's an instinct.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
To like fill this, no, believe me my mother's dad.
And oftentimes, like when someone will be like you know,
and what does your mom do? I you have that
gut reaction just to be like she died.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
And now I'm laughing right because it's like because it's
that's kind of funny, because it's.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Like third rail. It's like you know what I mean,
It's like, oh God, we'll talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
We'll talk about we know it's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
All I don't want to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Okay on this podcast, though, it's okay. This is why
it's not sad. It's on this podcast. I'm sitting down
with father figures who are old enough to be my dad.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Oh my god, that's and that.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Applies to Adam.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
And that applies to Adam, or who are just dads themselves,
also applies to Adam. But I brought him on because
he is old enough to.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Be my dad. They get to ask some questions scientific
my intro.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
And I know you don't believe women should have microphones,
but I do have to do the intro. Okay, I'll
get to ask the questions I've always wanted to ask
a dabage have microphones.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
I just think he doesn't think women should have micro folks.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
I just knew that that was the next beat to do.
I knew that that was.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
The next I'm going to complete the intro and you're gonna.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Like, he's curious. No one has gotten me a coffee.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Okay, I'm gonna go get I don't like culbrew, don't
wear an apron no, no, me to wear an apron.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
No. I mean when you're pouring the coffee in my
health it's a white tank top.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Okay, I'm going to get to ask the questions I've
always wanted to ask a dad, like how do I
know if the guy I'm dating is right for me?

Speaker 1 (02:30):
If he's the one? How did you know mom was
the one?

Speaker 2 (02:34):
That's I've never gotten to ask anyone that, how did
you know mom was the one? Or other questions like
what should I look out for when I'm buying a car?
How the hell do I change my oil? Can you
help me perfect my jump shot?

Speaker 3 (02:46):
And we know that you know I can't do that.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
I thought you're gonna say you can.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
I know, but I tried with you.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Olympic Golden Boy.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
You're trying to say that my jump shot is so bad.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
That no one can help me.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
It's far away.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's really bad. It was so far.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
I'm actually upset that they left those shots that I
took in the show. I thought they for sure would
cut them out or at least c g I the
basketball into the hoop?

Speaker 1 (03:10):
What would have really cost you? Guys?

Speaker 3 (03:12):
We were doing like wildlines in ad R one day
and and I improvised when that didn't make it in
where you you missed the shot like you have more
of a swimmer's body.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
It was.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
It's so embarrassing. That was real acting that well, that
was real acting.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
That was real. That wasn't acting acting would have been
me getting it in.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
And even I was trying to, like Channel Kimberly, still
couldn't get it in.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
That's how bad it is, guys.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Today's guest has started Happy Endings, The Sonic, The Hedgehog
spin off knuckles and can be seen in his movie
No Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Okay, Today's guest, you don't have to do this. No no, no, no, no,
no, no no no. I can do this.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I might not be able to shoot a basketball, but
I can do the Instagram. Might not be able to
get a basketball in a in a in a hoop,
but I can do this.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Today's guest has Today's guest.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Doing a self taste.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
You've ever done this with anyone else? Something about you
just makes me uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Today's guest has starred in Happy Endings, The Sonic, The
Hedgehogs spin off knuckles and can be seen in his
And some might say, my.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yes, Yes, our.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
New peacock show. Mister throwback, please welcome my dad for
the day. Adam Pally, Hi, I go, are you pretending
to be shy now.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
I'm pretending to talk to you.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
You're a calm dad.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
I am a very calm dat You're okay? Yeah, you see,
you've seen me work, I've.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Seen you with and he's doing a lot of chilling.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
I do a lot of he's my parents with the kids.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Adam, I'm gonna go ahead and say you're the.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Homie chilling with him. That's the homemaker you have to create.
You have to create a comfortable environment so that when
you do have to have tough conversations, it's not, you know,
so hard.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Sure. Do you feel like there was a comfortable environment
for you in your childhood?

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Not like that? No? No, I think it was more
chaotic chaotic.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Do you think you have an affinity for chaos? Because
I kind of do.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yes. Because of that, I think I definitely have an
affinity for chaos.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, what was your dad like? Would you say?

Speaker 3 (05:29):
I kind of had too. My dad had like two
different vibes because when I was young, he was an artist.
He was in a rock band and he was an actor,
and then when I was around eight nine, he went
back to medical school. Okay, so the two were like

(05:51):
very different people in a lot of ways, the same
but different, okay, you know, and I would say very different.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, doctor and rock star not star, oh not stars cloud.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Well no, like him and him and my mom were
in a band called Pallium Pal that would tour around
like the Cat Skills.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Emma thinks the band name is funny. Was it meant
to be funny?

Speaker 3 (06:21):
I think in some ways it was okay, but in
other ways it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
You know I wanted to be taken seriously.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yes and no. Yes, Like they wore white jumpsuits and
stuff like on ironically, and it was kind of like
covers like they would do like Pat Midler songs and
Beatles songs and they would like, you know, banter and
so then yeah, so then when when he went back
to medical school, I think things just kind of became
a little more like he was very serious.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
But so did you do you remember a time like
you remember him being more fun?

Speaker 3 (06:51):
You actually experienced it more fun, but just like less
like more around. Yeah, he was like he went from
being like a to like not around more serious. Can
you heard the term like work work? It was like
things changed.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Okay, and obviously a schedule.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Changed dramatically, dramatically.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Did you feel close to him during childhood?

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yes? And no sometimes. I mean I think I was
really close with my mom. Okay, but I think yeah,
I fell close with him.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah, did your mom work too once?

Speaker 3 (07:24):
My mom worked? Yeah. My mom worked to support us
in Chicago while he was at medical school, and then
she ran like his business. Okay, she opened up his practice.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Okay, okay, were you ever a part of it like
that in any way?

Speaker 3 (07:39):
No?

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Okay, what were you up to.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
This?

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Oh? Yeah, you started really early.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
I did start early. Yeah. I was in high school,
and I uh, I was put into this like we
had we had like a publicly funded television studio in
New Jersey in this high school, and I just like
to it and was like in there from the moment
I got to high school and was like making sketches
and stuff.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Did your dad support that?

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah? Immensely, immensely. Yeah, do you think most too much? Wait?

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Why do you say too much?

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Just like some of those stories you hear about, like
a dad like who had dreams and never achieved them.
Like sometimes we have to be like, hey, bump the
brakes boundary.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Did you guys butt heads then a lot?

Speaker 3 (08:25):
No, we didn't. We we only butted heads really after
my mom passed away for a little bit. Okay, that's
when I think we butted heads. But no, we have
a We both have a very similar person I both
like people pleasers, Like I'd much rather sit in silence
knowing something is copaesthetic than create a like massive rift

(08:49):
or something just to like get you know what I mean.
And I think my dad is that way too. I
think only if like thing major things happen when we
like really.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Bought Yeah, how would you like describe his communication style
or okay, slim to none, quiet man.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Quiet man, a man of very little words and then
all of a sudden will like blow up until you
go on a rant about something.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
What kinds of things is he excited to talk about Hollywood?

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Mostly loves talk about Hollywood. He loves talking about movies
that he he loves talking about movies that he didn't like.
But like you know, he doesn't understand what the fuss
is about type of things. Like he called me the
other day and was like, I saw challenges I don't get.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
It a little bit Kristen Wicks character a little bit.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah, yeah, and then you just like have to you
have to be like, well, you know, I don't know,
I don't like it. And then he's like and then
he and then he tells you this whole thing about
why I didn't like it, and then very sweetly, and
most of it would come back that you could have
played that part. Oh you know, so it is it's
like somewhere in there, it's like I think it's coming
to that, but like it takes while.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Did he ever give you a career advice?

Speaker 3 (10:02):
All the time?

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Do you hate it?

Speaker 3 (10:04):
I hate it? You see, I hate it. I hate it.
I hate it all the time. Yeah, but I let him.
I let him do it because it's like he likes
to feel included, and you know, I like to. I
don't want to like cut that part off with him
because it's funky. But I hate it when he starts
giving me and you hate it and it's fun I
hate when he feels I like when he feels involved

(10:27):
in what's going on, you know. I like when he
feels like, you know, part of the team in a way,
Like I like that feeling Okay, I don't like it
when he starts telling me what to do and how
to do.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Does he still do it?

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yes? All the time.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Is he listening? Do you think he'll listen to this?

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Absolutely? Okay, Yeah, he listens and watches every everything.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Has he seen mister throwback.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
One hundred thousand times?

Speaker 1 (10:59):
So he got like did he he had to wait
till it came out?

Speaker 3 (11:02):
And on Pete I showed him. I showed him cuts
early because I knew he he couldn't take it. He
was literally like becoming awkward about it, like how like
like he would come over and meanwhile, we didn't have
much time between when we finished and the cuts came out,
so I would I saw him maybe like a week
after we finished, and he would be like, oh, in

(11:23):
the un netting room or you know, and I'm like,
I'm not really, you know, it's other people. He's like,
but they send you stuff okay. Yeah, He's like, so
you have stuff here to show me. And then I'm like, yeah,
I can show you something okay, and like and then
he but like I like that it makes me feel
good and I like to show him. Yeah, But then

(11:44):
there's always a point where you have to go, okay,
thanks dad, Like, all right.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
There's the thing.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
You have to literally say the name of the podcast.
Thanks dad, that's enough, exactly.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
You literally have that's I say that so much?

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Of course I only I can, I can truly only
literally only imagine.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
But that's so yeah, Okay.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Did you wish while you were younger that you guys
were closer, did you like have a hope that your
relationship looked different?

Speaker 3 (12:13):
I think every kid at some point, once they become
like kind of self aware and they start to take
stock of other people and what they see and stuff.
I think they there's always a little bit of like
I wish my dad coached the basketball team, or oh
I wish my parents would would you know, take us
all to this thing? And a lot of that usually

(12:34):
has to do with money. Yeah, and I feel like
because my family was always behind the eight ball paying
my dad's student loans, which honestly like only just finished
with did you help of course?

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, yeah, just like because we were always behind the
eight ball, I think a lot of that jealousy or
that feeling of it was more about like I wish
I had, I wish I could do stuff more like
that yeah, it was my dad had time to do more,
you know what I mean. But he's in medical school.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah, did you Okay, So I think we have this
in common. I'd be remiss.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
We've talked about it, not on the podcast yet, but
my mom went to med school when I was like
four years old, and I think graduated when I was eight,
If I'm not.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Mistaken, it's a huge chunk of time.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
And so I don't I don't know that. I so
much was like wish mom could come to my ballet recital.
I feel like, very from a very early age, I
was like, well, mom has to work that doesn't revolve
around me, and she's doing a thing, and I.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Don't know, yeah, I think that's exact same thing that
I was told from like a really young age, because
it was so right there. It was like, well, you know,
you're you're helping dad by you know, understanding that he
has to be at work. Yeah, and so it felt like, well,
that's my job is to like, you know, do a
good job here and then tell Dad I did a

(13:54):
good job. It was like it never felt like I
didn't have something yeah you know, yeah, but I do think, Yeah,
I guess there were there were there were times when
I did when I was like, oh I wish that,
But I think looking back and I probably.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Had more to do with money right than anything. Right.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
When he was not at school, not at the hospital
doing residency, whatever, did was he like okay, well I'm
resting or was did you feel like okay?

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Especially when I was like like the I think it
was the year before I got bar Mitzvah. He was
doing nights at the in the emergency room as like
his residency. Yeah, because you have to fill up like
a certain number of hours even when you're when you
have a practice, you know, you still were are affiliated
with the hospital and you have to you know, so

(14:44):
he was doing his.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
He should be proud you know this, you know this stuff.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
I'm like, yeah, you speaking so intelligently about that.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
I really medical very proud of my daddy. Yeah, I'm
very proud of my dad. Yeah, And I always thought
it was cool.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
I want him to be proud that you'd know, and
you're speaking so intelligently and clearly about what the medical doctor.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
That won't really tickle it. I think that won't really different.
What would do it for him was when we were
casting mister throwback, and he was like, you know, who
should blame me, Richard Keere That like tickles it. But yeah,
so that's that's where that came from.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, did you observe things in him that you wanted
to make a part of you or not a part
of you or even okay.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Such as fitness and health was like a big thing
because there was a real dichotomy, especially towards the end
of my mom's life. Like, you know, my dad was
always like really really really fit and really like he
ran the New York Marathon a bunch of times, and
like he was always he's he's kind of still yoked

(15:48):
out of his mind and like, and my mother was not.
My mother was just like especially she has some health stuff.
As she got older, it just was not a priority
for her. She tried, but it was like just not
for her. Yeah, and then she died young. And I
think I think I always just like connected living longer

(16:08):
to exercising the way my dad did, So yeah, I
think that would be one of the things.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Well, also just that's got to be challenging me as
I was just listening to something about having compassion for
your loved ones who probably aren't who maybe are not
taking care of themselves the way you would hope that
they would, and how hard that journey must be. And
so I think it's like evolved in that sense that
you would go, Okay, well I versus being upset with
this person. I'm going to figure out. I'm going to

(16:38):
learn from observing them how i'd prefer to be. And
I think between the two paths I'm seeing here, I'm like,
I think I like what Dad has done, and I
think I want to fall sort of sort of treat
fitness and wellness the way he does.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yes, I try, because I also, like, you know, my
mom would just like a great cook and like food
and stuff, and I, you know, I like to eat
in part already and like I think that goes back
to her. And so it's like it's it's it's just
trying to like not do all of one or all
of the other. Because my dad doesn't even like food.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Oh really, okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
It doesn't even it's just fuel. It's like, yeah, he
doesn't taste anything. He's never wants been like I want
to eat this. The only thing that he like craves
is sushi because it's light. You know, and like he
can fill up and still feel light. He never wants
for anything because he always been like that. Yeah, since
I was a kid. Never food is just like not

(17:35):
a thing for him.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Okay, and you know that's a huge Do you think
we'd kid along?

Speaker 3 (17:39):
No, it's my only thing. And my dad like literally,
when we've had like deeper conversations, I've said to him, like,
the only thing I care about is dinner in the world.
It's like it's like my whole day revolves around dinner.
And I see his shoulders go up. He's embarrassed.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Oh wow, what do you think that came from for him?

Speaker 3 (17:58):
I don't know. I mean, like his he came from
like a pretty tough upbringing. Yeah, and so I think
fitness became a way to like escape tough parents maybe. Okay,
you know, yeah, I think is like what I would
I would guess for people who are And he's also extreme.
And my dad will laugh at this and he's extremely vain.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Okay, we're keeping this, pardon.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Keep it keep it in. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
No, okay, my dad is like a vaniac, is he is?
He like fine as hell?

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, he's really handsome. Okay, Yeah, he's like he looks
like a jacked Kevin Klein.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Okay, you know, like he.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Still has a six pack. It's even if even though
it's like that old man six pack, it's like he way,
he's more jack.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Than How many days a week do you think he
works out?

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Seven? Sometimes twice?

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Wow? Okay? Has he ever been to therapy?

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yeah? Okay.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
I feel like I once asked you if you'd been
to therapy, and you were like, so much, yeah, so
much of it, so much.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
There's I wouldn't be walking around evan so much therapy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Which one of your parents? Would you say?

Speaker 3 (19:09):
You're more like my mother?

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah? My mother?

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Okay, what of her? What traits of hers? Do you
feel like you reflect.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Her sense of humor?

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (19:17):
She she's love for food as well, love for food obviously,
and they were both they're both extremely loyal and extremely insular,
which I think I am like that too. But I
think my mother was just like whip crack, funny like
and and would like say something under under her breath

(19:38):
to you that would just like zing, you know, and
I think and she's a tough laugh and I feel
like I just like that made me always be like oh,
I got I make my mom laugh. Yeah, it would
be like good. And then I think also it comes
from they like me, they met, they met as kids,
and their marriage is great. But also when you when

(20:00):
you meet his kids, there were rocky right, it's like
real rocky points, especially when you have no money. Yeah,
and then you have children really really young, really really.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Young, Like how old were they when they had you?

Speaker 3 (20:12):
I think my dad was like twenty three?

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Wow are you the old Okay, you're the oldest Okay,
wow Okay, so.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Like really young. And and when you when you do
that as the oldest kid, you're part of that marriage
in a way. So you see a lot of like
tough moments. And I think I one of the ways
that I would like ease the house was like yeah,
you know, like put on oh Michael Jackson album and

(20:40):
then like do the dance like perfectly because it was
so funny that this chubby kid was like doing the dance.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
You know.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Do you feel that, did you feel you like felt
the responsibility in a sense just to do that?

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah, Okay, I think I did. I think I still
feel that. I think that's like one of the things
that I still feel like now is like, that's why,
I think, probably why I like doing it now.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
I got to eat or Beaver and I was asking
you what parts of your mom you see reflected in you?
And I was like, oh, in the food, so you're
so yes, the food, funny, anything else.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
I think my mom was really warm.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Okay, really really you are very warm.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Oh thank you.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
I've said that in interviews.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah, it was really nice to you.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
I meant it.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
I I try to be and also I am, and
so I think it's like both those things come together
and that's how who I am, because I think I
don't know. I just hate feeling as someone who always
feels like people are mad at them. And I don't
know what mental problem that is, but I'm sure, I'm sure,

(21:45):
And who is always trying to please everybody and make
a situation better, I know what it feel. I just
hate that feeling when you walk into a place and
someone's like cold or like preoccupied with themselves. I really
it just it makes me feel weird. So anytime I'm
in control at all of an environment, I try to

(22:07):
just like kind of emulate my mom's like warmth. My
mom would like I'm walking in a room and it
would just like soften, you know, and I feel like
I try to do that.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
That's such a gift and I think you do.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
You do have that, No, thanks with your dad, fitness
is something you guys have in common.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah, that's how base our connection is.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
And that's about it. Yeah. Is there anything else that
you would say that is from him that is reflected
in you?

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah, my dad's relentless. My dad's relentless, and he he
will any single single mindedly focused on something obsessively and
won't stop talking about it or or give up on
it until it has been put into the ground. Okay,

(23:00):
And I feel like, you know, sometimes that's a negative,
but I am as you know, Yeah, I know I
can I can good. I can do that a lot
and I get that way.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, So like you like perseverate hyper focus on something,
that's it. But I think that's that could be said
for anything, by the way, that it's good but it
could be bad.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Sure, and sometimes it is right, And I think that's
part of all of my personality is like, yes, it's
good and great and warm and great, and then sometimes
it could be bad. Sure.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Did you feel like you could go to your dad
though with emotional stuff, feelings and such.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
My mom definitely more okay. My dad is just not
He just he's learned it now with like two daughters.
You know. My sister was like nineteen when my mom died,
so he really has like like you know, come a
long way. But I think I really leaned on my

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mom for that.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
But it was open door, Like I never felt scared
of anything I could always there was nothing I could
like say that. I never felt like I'll be emotionally
cut off. You know. A couple of times I was like, oh,
I'm going to end up on the street, just like
you know, using my barmits some money for drugs. It's

(24:29):
like stuff like that, Like were you.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
In trouble a lot? Like yeah, yeah, a lot. What
do you think that is?

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Attention? Attention and no outlet for you know, like I
was obsessed with Saturday and Live and stuff very young,
like like there's a video of me doing like de
Bears at like four years old, like shock, and I
would watch it on repeat everything, you know what I mean. Like, so,

(24:58):
so I think they're just when you you're a kid,
like there's no outlet. Yeah, like in Skulky, you know, people.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Weren't in Illinois.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yeah, people weren't like, oh yeah, put them in an
acting school, you know what I mean. They're like, this
kid won't fucking shut up. Yeah, you know, so you
end up. You know, you'd be like, hey, class, do
you want to hear my impression? And they'd be like yes,
and the teacher would be like, you're fucking done here.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
All the kids who talk too much in class like
on TV and doing music.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Now, maybe, but I think it's definitely in our age
or well, I'm so much older than you.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
I'm old enough to be I don't think that's true.
But Papa Bear, you could have had me in my generation.
You were just a little if you lost your virginity
at a at a at a teenage age.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Do you count like paying for sex as virginity lost?

Speaker 2 (25:47):
So you were If I say no, then what age
would you say you were when you lost your virginity?

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Thirty one?

Speaker 1 (25:58):
I knew it, I freaking knew it.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Yes, No, yeah, you're you're right.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
No, But I do think our generation, yes, in class
getting in trouble, Yeah, it just was different.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Like now now I feel like because my son, both
my all my kids have it they're like, you know,
you know that like that need to like perform or
get a rise out of people, and and I see
as soon as it happens, like the conversation is so different.
They're like Cole has an amazing sense of humor and
amazing timing, like I thought of classes, which is not.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
The thing a teacher would have said back in the day.
It was like bad kids are kidding. Yeah, they're like, no,
we He's going to need extra time for his test.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah, so's it's also given the profession, the city you're in,
the profession you're.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
In, totally. But still I do think still it's probably
gotten a lot better. It sure has, and so yeah,
I know I think you're right. I think we all
will you that way too.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
I was talk too much in class, talk too much.
Family's over for the holidays. I'm like putting on a show,
doing impressions of this something.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Impressions of that, Like Thanksgiving was like showtime.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yeah for sure. I was like the audiences, the audience
is feeling it.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Oh yeah, I was working on ship, working at workshopping
characters before I had like the high holidays like the Russia.
John was like me workshopping for Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
I wish I could have been there.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Oh yeah, I was like, well only the Jews will
see this part once I get to the broader audience.
That are really.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Adam, Okay, so your dad you're getting in troubling class?
Is he how what's his reaction to that? Does he
sit you down? Is this like mom's conversation?

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Truly? This is where they really were like smarter than
I think most parents. They did not make it a thing. Okay,
they would oftentimes side with me over the establishment, at
least that's what they would tell me. Sure, and they
would oftentime they would not react because I think they knew,

(27:59):
like even a bad reaction is is what I wanted.
So I would get all nervous, like you know, I
like i'd light a fire on the bus and and no.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Light a fire on but you were bad as hell,
problem child?

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Yeah good, but I would like light a little light
a little fire on the bus and like be like
have that feeling in your stomach, you know where like
you get in trouble for it all day you're like,
oh my god, I'm gonna get home and like they're
gonna kill me. They're gonna kill me. I know that,
and then you get home and you'd be like trying
to be like, you know how school is like, and
he's fine, you know what I'm I know it's coming,
and it's coming the phone with a ring and you'd

(28:33):
be like, oh, got it. Yeah, And then it would
come and my mom would turn around be like, you
can't light.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
A fire on the bush, very calm.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yeah, and I would be like dramatic yes, And I
think that that they knew that I was, like, they
knew what I was gunning for and they just like
tone me down every single and.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
But they weren't giving it to you. Did that feel
did you feel like, Okay, I got to go bigger?

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Going made me embarrassed?

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Oh okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
And especially because there was something about my family, like
my dad and my mom they always talked they really
were like upstanding. They were really into like the middle class,
upstanding American. It was like I don't know if it
was like a Jewish thing at the time, like because
they're like I don't know what generation immigrants, but like
I don't know if it was like they were so
taken with this idea that like we are upstanding American

(29:25):
people who took a loan out to make our professions,
like you know that that kind of like.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Were they into the like we've pulled ourselves up by
our bootsteps or not quite that.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Not quite that, because they don't really like it was
more that they were just like really wanted to follow.
They really felt themselves as like we are good upstanding, yeah,
and you know your dad is a doctor in this town,
and like you know, it was just so I would
be embarrassed. I got embarrassed.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Did you feel pressures at a young age? W you
said when you said, my you know your dad was
a doctor in this town and and we're big on
being upstanding. Did you feel pressure having your last name
and like you had to somehow represent your last name
or represent your family?

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yeah, a little bit, Yeah I did. And it wasn't
always like it doesn't. It didn't come from like, oh
I have to be It wasn't like a like what
I'm a royal, you know it was. It was it
was more like you know, I think again, it came
from our financial situation A lot of it, Like we
I couldn't afford to go to Sleepway Camp as a kid,

(30:29):
and all my friends are going to Sleepway Camp. And
I didn't know that, so I was just like, why
can't I go to Sleepway Camp? And my dad found
a way that he could be a doctor at the
camp for two weeks and they would let me go
for the whole summer, which was like amazing. I didn't
know that, but I you know. And then because he
was the doctor at the camp, I was like the

(30:51):
doctor's son at the camp. At the camp, so it
was like you learned right away, You're like, and he
would be like, just don't don't get kicked out of camp,
you know, like yeah, yeah, because I'm working here for you.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yes, And but he what he tell he did end
up telling you like like I'm here, yeah he told you.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
He told me. Well, I remember it because I was
like upset, like I didn't have the same like shoes
that the others kids had, and I was like really
being a dick.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, And so he set you down. And when you
get set down and do you feel embarrassed again.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
I was just like, I'm so sorry. I didn't know. Okay,
you know he was, and they were totally like that's okay.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah, but just so just so you know.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
So you know, yeah, right, would you call your dad
a friend?

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Now, yeah, yeah, a friend? Okay, but I call him
my dad, right, you know, I think he's a friend.
I don't have a lot of.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Friends like that, right, Okay? What do you okay?

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Making the distinction, Obviously there's a distinction. We wouldn't need
one in the English language or any language if there
weren't one. What do you think it meets like your
friend versus your dad or like? What do you think that.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
A sense of responsibility that I think a friendship doesn't
require because it's often reciprocal, and I think my dad
probably feels the same way. I think he probably feels
like he has to take care of me in all
my shortcomings. And I'm sure if my dad was on
the podcast about his son, he'd be like a fucking maniac,
you know. But I think that that's different than friendships,

(32:25):
because I think the perfect friendship in me, this's just me,
is that it doesn't require responsibility. It blooms responsibility, like
you want to do things in that way because of
the friendship. But I think that parent child as close
as you can be, and there are moments where it

(32:47):
blooms like that. It really is a like this is
my father. I need to take care of him. And
that's a difference is you're always thinking.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
That, yeah, and you think then that it's like that requirement.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Both parties feel like I think you must feel it.
I feel like like and I feel it with my
children like I am their friend. They share stuff with me,
and I share stuff with them, but like I'm always
their father, and that's different. This is different, and I
think and this is again no shade like that's I
think from my experience, that's the healthiest way. I don't

(33:22):
think you want to be like best friends with your parents.
I think that's oftentimes leads to the lack of where
your parents can help you in other areas as you
get older.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah, that's I'm so fascinated by it because I do
have friends who are like friends with their parents first,
and the boundary lines feel so blurred in a way
that on the outside, I'm like, oh, is that good?

Speaker 3 (33:48):
I don't know. Yeah, it makes me feel weird. It
makes me feel weird when I have friends because I
have friends like that too, Like my dad's coming, We're
going to party, you know, and you're like, oh, okay, okay,
that might be weird for you.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yeah, but then somehow seems it's.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
It's fine, it's all fine on the surface, but like
I don't know, it's just like I always suspect about that,
like why does the parent need to be there? I
don't know. It's like my dad is good about that stuff.
He's very good about being like okay, like you go
be with your you do what you're doing, because I
don't want any part of that, right, that's your thing.
But he doesn't make me feel bad or he's just

(34:24):
kind of like, yeah, he's good about that.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
He always was yet but it was either type to
like sit down and give you advice or lectures or like, okay,
do you remember like a piece of advice that sticks
out to you? You still, I would say, more so
hold on.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
To Yes, if there's a baby in a dumpster that's
involved with you, I'll kill you.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
That's advice, a threat, and advice a threat can be advice.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Is all I needed at the time. Got it?

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Got okay? You guys as parents are very true. I've
seen you on set with your kids very chill. Yeah,
you guys, it seems to be going great.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
It's going good. It's going I mean like there's you know,
it's ups and downs and it's always hectic, and.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Someone get in trouble recently, you have the look that
like one of the kids got in trouble recently, like
something in.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Your No, it's just that this week is difficult because
we It's just there's a lot of stuff going on.
The kids are home from Sleepway camp and so they
have my little one, littlest when I'm still in day
camp okay, but the older two are like I want
to go do this, and I want to go do this,
and I want to go do this okay, And I
think parents sometimes it like that lack of like well

(35:35):
there's no school, there's no camp makes them crazy. And
so we're both like a little bit at each other's
throats right now because like text will come in. It's
like Cole Cole wants to go for a haircut now, okay,
you know, and you're like, okay, got it. Well I'll
do my best. It's like, no, not my best. He's
sitting at the door screaming at me, and you're like, okay,

(35:57):
got it. Like it's just there's nothing for them to do.
So we become the like do this with me? Do
you do it? For me.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Do you think the kids run the household? If you
had to be.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Real in some ways but in other ways?

Speaker 1 (36:12):
No, Okay, you look do you?

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Are you a disciplinarian because you have a very stern
look sometimes I'll.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Catch No, I'm not a good disciplinarian.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Not at all.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
No.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
I have you tried to be.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Well, you have to be sometimes, but I'm I'm I'm
very measured and like you know, I think that that
that look does more for me than like screaming or
I know I hate screaming and yelling. Yes, I only
do it usually if it's like safe, like I'm a
big like the kids running into traffic and okay, I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Just say like out of a movie, like.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
I will tell out of nowhere and then people turn
around and I'll be like, sorry, I wasn't actually that
big a deal. I'll do that, but like I'm not,
I'm not a big like disciplinarian.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah, what kind of dad? Would you just describe yourself
as warm, warm, warm dad?

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Do you think your kids would agree?

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Could they come to you with anything?

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yeah? Okay, what is that experience like?

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Because it's one thing to be like my kids can
come to me with anything, and that's what I want
them to be able to do. What is that experience
of them coming to you with anything some of the
things maybe that aren't as desirable to hear about. What
does that feel like for you?

Speaker 3 (37:27):
Like? What is Well, it's experience, Like it's better when
it comes from them, Okay, Like I've had the experience
of like someone did something wrong and it came from
my kid versus it came from like another kid's parent.
That's the worst feeling. Yeah, that's the worst feeling. That's
worse than any trouble you've ever gotten in any situation.
Like when you get a call from another parent that's like, hey,

(37:48):
your kid's fucking crazy, You're like, oh, what you know?
Because immediately you're like, I want to drive over to
their house and kill them. But then they show you
the evidence and then you shame.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yes, yes, because is your first reaction like yes, you
want to drive over there and kill them. And then
are you in those conversations right, are you a little
bit like well I need a little more information.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Always first reaction to me and this is I know
got wrong, and I've learned to like not act on
it is fuck you. My kid would never do that.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Have you said that some version of that once to someone?

Speaker 3 (38:25):
No, but I have said like.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
My child, okay, my son.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Yeah, I have said that my daughter. Yes. I have
said my daughter, my yes, and then yes.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
Then here's the evidence and they're like yeah, yes and
then and you're like oh shit, and then you're like
you have to go like, well, I need to hear
more because you don't want to apologize right away right
oftentimes like the then you're in the predicament.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
I don't want to sell my kid out, sure, but
I also have to wreck help them in this situation.
And so you have to go, okay, so what happened,
calmly hear it, and they go, okay, well we'll talk
to them when they get home and figure this out.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Okay, that's stressing me out.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
It's stressful.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Yeah, that's like I feel tension.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
It's genuinely like that. It's tense. Yeah, do you want
to know why? Like bottles of natural wine are going
down at the Pali house like water.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
It's like after the kids are sleep, yes.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Like we'll it'll start at dinner, like we'll have that
like that phone call, come in and do you want
to like make like dyll mostly will take it. Yeah,
but I'll hear her voice will change to be like
uh huh oh you're you know, and I'm like oo.
And then I make eyes with her and I'm like
white red.

Speaker 5 (39:43):
She's like orange orange, like orange, Okay, into the fridge,
grab the orange. It's the screwsop because it's a natty
yeah exactly. I start pouring it and she's like yes,
and then I know, and then ice cube it's like
I know, we I know exactly.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Can I ask about wine. I'm not a big wine drinker,
but with wine, when you're pouring it at home, is
it wrong to fill the glass at home? Like I
get like you'll fill it to the top of the
wine glass?

Speaker 3 (40:09):
Yes, you have to know that. A restaurant, unless you're
buying the bottle, is like not a home poor.

Speaker 6 (40:13):
Okay, there's a different home poor is whatever you want
to do, Okay, And you guys, I've been known to
go through half a bottle on one porky like I
will sit. I got these cool glasses, you know, like
the ones that go up on the side. I will
sometimes like take a new bottle and pour it and
like be mindless, like looking at something to be like,
oh that feels right, like put I have no spill,
and then look down and be like, wow, I think

(40:34):
that half the bottle.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
It's only two glass of wine now.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Okay, But Danielle is on the phone. She's getting a
call that one of the kids did some ship. Yeah,
you're pouring the wine in a wine glass. Yes, I
know it, I know it goes, you know where it goes.
And she's handling it. Do you feel like you have
to you have to jump in and you're like, okay,
tag do you guys?

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Tag teamate?

Speaker 3 (40:59):
No? But you do no. But advice for other parents
going through this situation, you can you can't leave, okay,
right like, just because she's on the phone handling it
and you've poured the wine, you've given her the glass.
You can't just go okay, Coop be upstairs like you can't.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Did you learn that the hard way?

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Or yes, of course I learned that, like right away,
because what ended up happening is like you you go upstairs,
you start like playing video games, drinking wine, and then
the door busts opens, like you want to hear what
that was about? Yeah? Yeah, of course, And you're like,
what one second, I'm actually hold on dude, can I
And you're like and like you have a game? No,

(41:37):
I don't. I only play NBA two K. So it's
like most of the time getting spanked by a kid
and I don't want to hear it, okay, but you do,
like you're like, it's the third corner, Like can you
tell me from there?

Speaker 1 (41:50):
It's over us, Like that's just what I have fun too.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
A little bit, but you know, but you know that's
all the time. So what you have to do is
you kind of like have to you know, Muhammad Ali,
you have to like flow like a butterfly a little
and like thing like a you have to kind of
be like drinking the wine. She's on the phone. You
have to be like what are they saying?

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Where are the kids at the side.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
They're like playing.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
They're like, you're not gonna address it till you're not
gonna no, no, no, that's gonna be.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
A pride, you know that, Like you and the kids
are gonna be private conversation later. So you're just you
have to be like one night, like the kids are
in the living room hanging out and you've got the
wine in the kitchen, and you're like, what are they saying?
Like really, you know, and mean while you're.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Chilling the one right, So you're trashed trying to get
there well by the time you address.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
The child, hoping to be trashed by that moment, by
the time.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
You dress the child, you're trashed.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
Fully Hopefully if it goes too smoothly, it's gonna be
much rougher conversation. So and then and then you have
to be like, and then she'll eventually be like, what
are they saying? She'll put that they're saying that you're
on the wall, and then you have to be like.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
The fuckchie archie, our daughter, my daughter, do that?

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Turn around, you look at her, and then you look
back and go did they say why?

Speaker 1 (43:01):
What did they say?

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Why? What happened was good? And then so she just
did this out of nowhere? Good good, good. You know,
you have to like, you gotta be present and you're
the parent.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Whose wall got drew on though, and this is happening
to you.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Definitely it was both of them, And how dare you
call my Hey, you got a kid? Wall is gonna
get drawn on?

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Yeah, you got.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
Ten? You got call me? You want to call me,
someone drew on the wall, or are you gonna do
a bill?

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Do you ever call other parents like your kid ever?

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Once? And I've had kids, no joke, like take a
dump on the outside of my house, like like put
their ass on the outside and like dog, And I
would not call a parent. I just be like, oh, well, yeah,
that's what's going on, like weird, they're not my kid.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Don't do it, they'll do it I get in front
of their parents.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
This is a fictitious situation. So I'm getting worked up
over it.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Okays, the ship is not yeah that really happens.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
It is facts.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
Who's a friend of ours?

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Oh wow?

Speaker 2 (44:05):
And you never you never even never mentioned it? Well,
I feel like that would be an awkward conversation though, too.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
But like what do you isn't the isn't the other
small thing awkward too? Like that's why we don't do it,
because like because anything that happened, even if it was
like oh, we threw a ball hard and it hit yeah,
you know what I mean that that conversation is just
gonna end up being like sorry, right.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Right, right, So you're drunk by the time you address
the kids, right by the grace of god, of course no.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
I know, but okay, yes, I am hopefully drunk.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Okay, you're trying to get there how you've painted it? Yes?

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Are you addressing the kids one at a time? So
say they're all in the living room playing, and it's
like Gigi who got in trouble? Gigi would never not
the GG.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
I know.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
First of all, I just want to say, this is
a go speaking Gig. If you're listening to podcasts now,
I know you would never girl.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
I know GG would be like, why did you say
I got in trouble?

Speaker 1 (44:57):
GG?

Speaker 2 (44:58):
I can see it right now in the little neck A.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Cool daughter, she's the coolest.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
But okay, say GG draws on a wall, which she
would never would you address her in front of the
other kids? Or she has her own one on one?

Speaker 3 (45:16):
Okay, no, Because I think my wife talks about this
a lot. That used to happen to her. Her household
was really quite strict, and there's just some stuff that
like we just don't like to I don't like to
embarrass them, you know, because it's all I get again,
like our kids, Disappointment is such a strong thing when
I was growing up, and I think it's really strong

(45:37):
in our house. Our kids really don't like letting us down.
They really like we give them a lot of freedom
and a lot of room and a lot of attention,
you know, and time, and they know they don't want
to let that. They don't want to let us down.
They don't want to like they like that, and so
if it goes wrong, they don't like being in the

(45:59):
house when like we're upset with them. Yeah, And I
think that goes a long way, ye in parenting, like
way more than I think a lot of parents think.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
I as a person who feels like I had a
very full life as a child and I didn't, you know,
I have an absent father. I didn't feel like I
was missing anything. And I think largely because I'm like,
my home was a home of peace. My mom was
so it was so important to her to cultivate a
peaceful space. And she's like, I'd see people who didn't

(46:30):
want to be at home or wanted to stay at
work longer so they wouldn't have to go home and
deal with their spouse.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Or their kids.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
And it's like so important to her to cultivate a
place of peace. And I do think that goes a
very long way so you want to feel safe in
your home, you want to feel but I.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
Feel like that also translates to you as who you are,
Like you are you you operate on such I know
you tell me. I tell you this, but you don't
feel that way, but you do. You operate on such
an even playing field, and I feel like you just
take people for what they are, you never preconceived. And
it's just like that comes from the confidence of a
peaceful house because when you you brought up in a

(47:05):
in a up and down house, that's when you go
into situations and I feel like you're like, what the fuck.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Is going on everywhere?

Speaker 3 (47:13):
Everywhere? Yeah? Yeah, we live like that. We don't know
everything is its every nothing chaos all the time. Yeah,
it's like you just operate on such an evening. I've
learned to and I going forward will be better at
it because of you, because it's just like right, you know,
and when something affects you, you deal with it.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Thank you, Adam. I try my best.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
I'm deeply, deeply imperfect, but it's okay. But yeah, yeah,
because we all are, and that's something you know. More
and more the older I get, I'm like, oh, yeah, what.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Is perfect anyway, but thank you. That's very kind of
you to say.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Do you the kids I met your kids, they seem
really cool.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
They do.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
They're so cool.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
I mean it was really brief and in passing, yeah,
but they feel the way. Cole came up to me
and I told you this already, but like with such confidence. Yeah,
it was like, helloa, go, nice to meet you. A
big fan of your work, and I was like, who
is this young man better than most grown men? Not
just like such decorum and confidence and like the manners,

(48:19):
but then also a vibe, because sometimes I feel like
you can have a well mannered kid who's like, all right,
we are a nerd.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Yeah no, no, no, no, Like.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
They're like cool And how do you think that came
to be?

Speaker 3 (48:29):
I think that is a mix. I think it's all
of Danielle's best qualities mixed with like one percent of
my like gleam in my eye, it would say, is
that it's like eye of Danielle is truly like I

(48:49):
am actually very shy and kind of when you're like
I've seen you be have that look. It's like most
of the time that look comes from from shyness or
from a and shyness often is anxiety, I feel like,
because it's like you're anxious about how you're gonna be perceived,
or how you're if you're going to hurt someone, or
like you know, if you're going to do something wrong,

(49:09):
say something wrong, and like all you want is to
make someone feel good. So that for me would translate
into like this real recoil, like really shy.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
I feel like Danielle is the exact opposite, where she
is like comes up to you and she's like, hello,
how are you. Yeah, yeah, I'm Danielle.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
And it's the eye contact and the confidence. Yeah, like
to be firm right on the.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Ground, so confident.

Speaker 5 (49:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
So, and she has made our children like when they
meet someone, she like that's like I always something. When
we were younger, I would be like, wow, that's kind
of like strict because I never grew up like that.
But she'd be like say hello, Cale, say hello Gigi,
say hello Drake, and like the kids would just like
follow in and be like, hello, my name is Drake.
And you'd be like I think adults now when they
meet him and he's like, Hi, my name is Drake.

(49:58):
I'm Adamson. People are like, what you so cool?

Speaker 5 (50:02):
Are?

Speaker 1 (50:03):
You know?

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Because also I don't feel like it's it's such an
incredible trait to have in a way to conduct yourself,
especially in a new space where someone else might be
new or you're new in the space and you don't
see it as much. But I'm like, it's so powerful.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
And it's like one of the one thing we get
kind of get. We give him a lot, like we
really instill that. I mean even my youngest, like Drake
is really good about taking his space and going up
to someone and being in a new atmosphere and putting
people at ease and saying like, let's get this part
out of the way. My name is Drake Pally, I'm
Adam Son. It's like he says, it's to everybody on set,

(50:39):
you know, like when he's there, he's like and most
of it's to get more of what he wants. Like
someone said, no, he's like, I'm Adam, Yeah exactly. But
he's very good of it and like he just does
it first thing. And I think that's again that's ninety
nine percent in yella, like one percent of my like glean.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
That's kind as a as a partner to give your
partner credit so much credit. But also if you're like,
that's really You're like, they got that from Danielle.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
What do you think that they got from you?

Speaker 3 (51:09):
Sense of humor?

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Yeah, I think even though Danielle was like and she
tells everybody she's funnier than me, she is, I think
they got my like they're not scared of the moment
because like part of everybody's funny. I truly believe that,
like most people are funny. Yeah, in their own heads.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
I believe that too. By the way, is that a
crazy theory because I believe that.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
No, I really believe that. I believe that most people
are funny, and that the thing that separates a lot
of us in that is just like work at it,
learning it, and then having the kutzpah to be like
and I'll say it now.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Yeah, and that's that last bit is for me, I go,
that's the difference, is like, it's the willingness to allow
yourself to be silly or look foolish like that'actly.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
And I think all three of my kids have that.
They don't care like in their camps, they're they're always
the one on stage painted in body paint. They're always
the one wearing fake mustaches, They're always the one with
alien head and like you know, they're never the kid
on the sideline watching. And I feel like that they
got from me.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Yeah, yeah, that does feel very aligned and like it
is of you.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
I don't like to watch. I don't want to I
want to do it. I don't want to watch.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Yeah, that's very cool.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Is there something you want to impart to your kids,
like a piece of advice if they didn't if they
didn't listen to like anything else you anything you told them,
if they didn't listen to anything else you told them,
Is there something you say to them like is it.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
Well, this may be my own darkness? Am I imparting to
them as if I'm dead?

Speaker 1 (52:43):
If yeah, let's pretend you're dead.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Okay, I'm dead. I'm talking to three of them right now.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
You're dead, but before you died, so you're dead now,
But before you died?

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Was the yellow with me when you died? Do you
want to know how you died?

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Yeah? What doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Choked on a.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
French fry like the little end piece of the potato
that's too crispy.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
I've always said they should cut those off.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
They should cut they should't even put them in the batch.
But you can choke on one of those.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
It's so easy to remove it. Yeah, and Daniella alive.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Is Daniella is going to continue to be with the children.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
I don't like this game, but.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
I don't well that that makes me feel good because
I don't have to say as much. Okay, so I
really do know that they'll be okay.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Okay, but if you go, I want my kids to
remember I told them this thing.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Like like John Q.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
I cried watching John cute when he's giving him an
advice on how to like be a purse good person
and be a man.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Yeah, Denzel brings me to tears every time.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Yeah, like that scene he's like, I'm gonna die, but
this is this is how you this is what you do,
This is what take care.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Of your mother, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Okay, what's your piece of advice on how to live
life to the kids.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
I would say, I'm trying to put this in like
a very like sixtinct kind of nice bow, but that's
not that's not cliche. But I would say say yes
more than you say no. But it's okay to say, no,
I like that.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
That's good advice. What about that really resonates with your
made you go That'll be the one.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Thing I really like to do. So I prefer to
do anything than not. Like I always am on the move.
I'm always like, you know, eating trap. Like what if
I'm on location for a movie or a show, It's
like I've walked the whole city. I've eaten the whole city.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Like, can confirm Adam is a good time?

Speaker 3 (54:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Yeah, no, I know. I love it though.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Yeah, you're not trying not to leave anything on the bone. Yeah,
And I I'm not saying I've done it perfectly, but
I would will say that that having those memories and
that wealth of experience I look back on a lot
and keeps me quite happy. Yeah yeah, and it's part
I think one of the ways to avoid feeling not

(55:02):
happy is to look back on things that you've done,
are good times that you've had, and if you don't
have that many, it could be harder. And I feel
like I have a billion yeah, and I'm making more
every day, And so I would say that is like
a really I would I And the only way you
do that is if you're constantly like, Okay, sure, you know.

(55:26):
But at the same time, I hate roller coasters. I
really don't like them. I learned early on as a kid,
I don't like them, and but all my friends when
we go to the amusement park, would ride the roller coasters,
and I would feel like, oh, I have to do this,
But every time I would have a panic that could
be in line, I'd be sweating, i'd be freaking out.
Then I'd tell my stomach hurt, and then I'd like

(55:48):
that my stomach would hurt, and then it was like
just miserable. And then as I got older, I realized like, nah,
I don't do the roller coasters and I could still
have fun at the amusement park. And then I realized
I don't even really like the amusement park. Don't really
have to go to the amusement park. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
That's when I get the invite. I can say no.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
I can say no, yeah, you know, and like I
don't have to even be there. Yeah, but that takes
a lot, you know, But so I would just as
that's the long way of saying it. But I guess
that's what Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
No, Thank you for elaborating because it was put very
succinctly and beautifully when I thought, what's about what's behind that?

Speaker 1 (56:23):
But that's helpful.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Now I have to ask you, because I end every
episode with this segment, I have to ask you, my
dad for the day a piece of advice. This is
I want to ask you for two pieces of advice
because you just say what you said. I normally ask
for one, but you feel equipped for both. If a
guy I'm dating for five months five months, okay, sends

(56:44):
me a dick pic?

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Should I end it?

Speaker 3 (56:47):
Or so many questions off the time okay, because like
five months is like an finish said an odd time. No,
it's an odd timing for a dick pic to come.
It means, I guess. It would lead to other questions
like are you is this long distance? Are you? Are

(57:10):
you trying to get something going? Like what like what?
Because if it's just five months and we live in
the same city and then all of a sudden, like
you know, ding dong, like ding dong, ding dong, Like
I don't I don't know, I don't get that, okay,
So I would say probably I would look in I
would be like, hey, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Yeah, you know, like yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
So I would say yeah, maybe maybe not break up,
but definitely like State of the Union.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Kay, okay, all right, because.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
Five months is like if he's if he's with you,
five months, like I'm thinking in my head, we're doing
this right, like.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
It's moving right right, right, yes, five months you are
thinking that, right.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
So the text you want is like, hey, I can't
wait for you to come home.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
No, no, not like okay, boom, here's my fucking you know,
flaccid penis.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
Yeah, because it's like it never you know.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Dick pics aren't flaccid penises.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
No, they're they're semi You want to show where it
could go, right, You don't want to give them starts.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
It's kind of like a teaser. It's like a preview.
It's a teaser, trailer, trailer.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
The worst trailers are where they show the whole movie. Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
The vice of Advicel is going to ask you before
you mentioned seeing a picture of him. I'm not a
big beer drinker, dad, but I'm interested potentially to get
into beer. Is there a beer that I should try first?
And what's like an I p a versus a logger?

Speaker 3 (58:43):
I wish that I look more like I would like
your dad. So you have to pretend a little bit.
You have to pretend I was gonna say, I know
a little bit, but I wish I knew more. I
know that I don't like I p as.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Okay, I can, and we don't know what they are necessarily.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
From the ones that I've had. They're the ones that
are like thick and sometimes sour.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Okay, Okay, you know.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
It's like I'm not that's just not my type of beer.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
I don't drink a lot of beer because again, because
I'm vain, okay, and I feel like that's the one
way ticket to like not working right. Right, Like if
you see me like plumped out and I'm like holding
a beer like something went wrong.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Yeah, okay, you didn't get it. I'll be sure to
keep an eye out. So I'm avoiding I pas, yes
for now that.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
Yesterday I did. I was in a pool and I
had two beers that were bud Lights. Okay, they were
like so cold, Yeah, that were amazing.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
So cold is key?

Speaker 3 (59:35):
I think temperature is a key to a beer.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Okay, people, I feel like shit on bud lights. I
don't know if I'm making.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
I'm a garbage No, I'm not knocking. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
I really don't know too much about it. So I'm like,
what's the what's the story there?

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (59:48):
I think it's because it's the type of beer that, like,
I really I drank two of them and was like,
if we're staying in this pool, I could drink twelve
of these. You know.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
It's just kind of like a okay, okay, cold knockback
better than a white claw white.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
There's something about the white clothes make me nauseous.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
I feel like I I'm literally.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Losing my sponsorship, but like there's something. Sorry, Well, what's up?

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Everage you love? Let's get you a sponsorship.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
Beverage I love? Oh, I mean tequila?

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Okay, same? Should we get should we create a tequila line?

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
I would love to do a tequila I've been thinking
about it a lot, but okay, because I think humor
is missing from from brand.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Funny funny funny liquor.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Like like if the bottle was funny, yes, like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
That'd be fun if the bottle Also, you do have
good ideas about investments, Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm
gonna let you go now to your family, your actual family.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
I'm gonna go pick up my son from his job.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Oh really, Okay, we didn't even get into that next time.
Thank you so much, Adam. Is there anything you'd like
to plug?

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
Mister?

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Where can people watch it?

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
Uh? Mister Throwback is out on Peacock Streaming now and
the USA Network. I don't know what times it's playing,
but I the other thing is, like I have been
told to that if if you don't like it, it
does mean that you're like not for America.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
That's what we're hearing.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
That's what I'm hearing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Hold on, there's someone in my I'm hearing from our
producers as well that if you don't like mister Throwback,
it means you don't like America.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
Yeah, you don't like America, which is like, not great
for you. I would want to be on the side
that likes America. So watch, yeah, watch mister.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Okay, you heard it here? All right?

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
Thank you so much, Thank you so much. I'm so
happy to see you, so good to see you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
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