August 22, 2025 • 42 mins
In this episode of 'Thanks, I Hate It, The End Times', hosts Brittany and Windsor discuss the complexities of gender-affirming care, particularly for minors. They explore personal experiences with gender expression, societal perceptions, and the importance of autonomy in healthcare decisions. The conversation emphasizes the need for understanding and acceptance of diverse gender identities and the impact of societal norms on individual well-being.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, it's Brittany and Windsor and you're listening to Thanks
I Hate It. The End Times, a weekly social commentary
podcast where two friends shoot the shit about social issues
mm hm. Throciated and suspecting targets.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
They should suspect at this point.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
They really should and drink from the top shelf because
we are. We're broke, but we're not that broke anymore.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, listen, A good top chef will get you drunker
longer and you won't wake up with a hangover. Befare
the same price to work. Clink clink, clink clink. So, Brittany,
what have you been up to this week?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You know what? I was having a solid week. My
brother and I we went out for his birthday yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
We have a happy birthday. I haven't seen him in years.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I know, and he's still like living for the moment
that he got to meet you. He's still so excited
about that. He'd be like, remember when I met your friend, Windsor.
And so we went and hung out yesterday. We went
into some witchy shops, we went to some museums. That's
shit that we do. And so that was all fine.
Got to work this morning and chaos reigned supreme. So
you know, just trying to exist in dealing with that.
(01:10):
What about yourself, my dear, So.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
The other day at work, you know, for a library,
you wouldn't think that a library could be as chaotic
as it is.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yes, I would.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
They're chaotic as fuck. If you don't know, it's the
bigger the library, the more chaotic it's gonna be. Oh,
Katy's in here. So all of a sudden, we hear
maintenance to children's. Okay, somebody threw up director to children's.
Oh shit, somebody busted their head open. That's the first
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thing you think, because why would the director and maintenance
have to go there?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Never a good thing ever. Nobody busted their head open.
But we did have a surprise visitor, a bat. We
had a bat in the one of my cousins. Yeah,
like it was. It was quite a thing. The fire
department came because when you live in a town, that's
your animal control because they have the ladders, they have
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the gloves, whatever. So we we caught them. And so
we estimated that this children's room is about nine thousand
square feet.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
It's huge. That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
We sanitized the entire children's room in forty five minutes.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And then the next day I'm like, why the fuck
does my back feel like that? Like what did I do?
Did I sleep wrong? And then I remembered I was
bent over for forty five minutes as we scrubbed everything.
Happy bat Day, I guess, Happy bat Day. So yeah,
now we get to have the people come in to
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close off the chimney.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yay, sounds like a good time.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, oh no, it was fun. That was not fun.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
No, that's the kiss loved it.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
There were like the little kids who were outside like
vibrating over the fire truck, like, oh my god, it's
a fire truck.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I kind of love that.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
And then we have like windows like in the hallway
where you could look into like the preschool room and
you could see the bat flying and some of the
kids thought that was great. Okay, we also have a
fake tree in the kids room. It's really cute. But
the poor bat was like flying around its leaves. It's
trying to figure out what's going on and to get
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the fuck out of there, like please. Then, so the
firefighter has it right, he goes outside, he goes to
go let it go. It goes up and then it
scoops back down like it was about to come back inside,
and we're all just standing there like, don't fucking tell me,
but it ended flying away because at least with the
children's room, we can close that off. Our building is
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sixty thousand square feet. Damn if we had a bat
lost in there, we would have had to close for like.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Two two days, yes, because that's how long it would
have taken to.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Find it one and then clean everything. So yeah, that
was fun. But Brittany, what are we talking about today?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
So today, much to the chagrin of you know, Republicans,
people that call themselves Christians just general haters, we are
going to be talking about gender affirming care. And the
reason that I listed this grouping of folks is because
it has come to you know, the general same person's
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understanding that they do not have an understanding of what
gender affirming care truly is. And so we are going
to take you know, because our episodes are not super long,
We're going to take a pretty shallow dip into it.
But I can almost guarantee that at some point we
will take a deeper dive into gender affirming care because
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it is a realction of life that exists regardless of
your gender identity. Your gender identity, it's a part of
every aspect of our lives.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
And I got some gender firming care today. Literally, I
got eyebrows done.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Did you they look so good?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
It's good. They're cousins, yeah, oh, mine are always cousins.
Mine are never related, so it's fine. But they're at
least cousins, you know, first cousins. They're not like second
cousins once removed or anything.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, it is what it is. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
But yeah, we're talking about gender firming care, and so
I believe that whenter you're talking specifically about with the youths.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yes, So I am just going to do a quick,
quick overview of gender firming care for minors because this
seems to be the biggest hot button topic. Like these
people think that they're going to go to school as
a girl and come back with a sex change and
be a boy, and that's just not how it works.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
That's trendiculous. List it is the most context, it's no ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
You can't even get onto a fucking school bus to
go across the street without a parental signature. You. You
can't even learn about a penis and a vagina without
a parental signature. You can't even read a book like
To Kill a Mockingbird without a parental signature. You think
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that they're going to give sex changes away. And let's
also another thing. Teachers in most the vast majority of
this country pay for almost every single thing in their classrooms.
You really think that they can afford a sex change.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Working for your kid, even afford fucking school supplies exactly
because we pay them peanuts.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
My district does actually for eight and under provide all
of the school supplies.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I love that mind is not, but I will say
that I've seen kind of an uptick in family members
of people that are providing those Like I know that
Charles and I about a bunch of stuff for my
sister in law. She doesn't teach, but she is a
She basically is almost like the no like the like
a social worker, but they're not the official social workers
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because schools down here have different kind of expectations.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Counselor.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
It's kind of like a counselor. And so she provides
a lot of those things to children, and she buys
a lot of them, which means that we buy a
lot of them. And I've seen a lot of families
doing this because I mean, it's not getting easier. So
we got to step in.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, and just real quick off topic before we get
back on topic. This released for a topic next week.
But hot take here is that we need to stop
bitching about the teachers asking for specific products. Yes, as
a poor parent, I can attest it sucks when they
want something that costs more, but guess what uniformity they're
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communal If half the class doesn't provide it, guess what
your kids aren't gonna get it.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Period.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
They're asking everybody to bring in. So because they have
a you're I'm only gonna buy it for me, but
blah blah, blah blah, you could put your name on
it all they want. Guess what. That box of crans
is getting dumped into the communal crans. So when they
need a black cran and a red cran, they're gonna
take the bucket of black crans and red crans and
don't buy no goddamn rosart, and they're gonna give them
to the kids.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
That's where I do buy rosart. You want to know why,
because we're doing what we can when we can.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Don't buy ros Art because they're just gonna go in
the trash anyway, and you could get twenty five cent
crans before school starts. I don't want to hear it.
Don't buy Rosart.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Now, I'm gonna give her that one. I'm she gonna
take that one. I'm gonna let her have that heart take.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
But getting back, yeah, getting back to it to.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Where we are. So I'm gonna start us out by
giving one the definition of gender affirming care, and then
I want us to sit with this definition for a
moment and think about how it relates. Hold space for it,
what we are hearing from the powers that be, the Republicans,
the people that call themselves Christians, general haters, and let's
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see if it aligns. And that moment will be a
real quick moment. But gender affirming care, as defined by
the World Health Organization is essentially a range of social, psychological, behavioral,
and medical interventions designed to support an affirm an individual's
gender identity. That's the end of the sentence. Full stop,
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full stop. And so let's take a moment of silence.
Moments done space. Nope, we held that space for the
dummies we're holding space for dummies, so they don't get
a lot of our time. With that definition of mind
designated to support an affirm and an individual's gender identity,
guess what we all have regardless of our biological sex?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
A gender?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
A gender? Yay, I have a gender because gender and
biological sex or sex assigned at birth are two different things.
Sex is the biological aspect what you were physically born
with at the time of your birth. Gender is your expression.
How are you expressing your gender? I personally like to
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express my gender and this feels very gender affirming for
me personally. In my hair, I love to do different
things with my hair. It makes me feel pretty and
nice and whatever. When I do different things with my hair,
when I really take the time to care for it
and to make it look the way that I want
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it to look before going to do something, that is
me taking a moment to affirm my gender, and that
affirmation is for me, by me. So that I was
gonna say that means that maybe another person that looks
or doesn't look like me, that their gender aligns with
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mine or doesn't align with mine, may do the same
thing and it could affirm their gender in a different way,
and that's okay because gender and gender expression are deeply
personal things and they don't have to mean the same
thing for every single person.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
And they're also it's incredibly nuanced personally. I like my
boobs to be breasting boobly like when I like I
like when they're just bouncing along doing their own things.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
She wants the bangs out there.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
That's that is gender affirming to me.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I like having boobs. I mean, they get in my
way and I could be whatever about them, but still
that's gender affirming. Another person who is also a CIS
woman may not want to have that, or because of
whatever cultural religious believes in covering being more conservative about it.
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That's still it's it's all a nuance of things, and
everyone is going to feel differently about what they were
born with, developed, bought whatever exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
And I'm actually glad that you went with that option
because I want to go through just kind of a
mid level list. It's not long, it's not short, it's
just kind of in the middle of things that are
gender affirming care that we don't think about on a
day to day basis. And I want you to remember
that these things are not dictated by any particular sex
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or presentation. It's really relevant to the individual. And because
we are nuanced, multifaceted beings, what is gender affirming to me?
What is gender affirming to windsor her like? And I
have her titties all just bouncing all over the place.
I personally, I'm getting the world's most you know, supportive
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sports bra. And those bitches won't move because I said
they won't move.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I like seeing them kind of like bouncing the sports bra.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Na, Man, I want those ships locked down. I might
as well be wearing a freaking binder sometimes because I
don't want them in my way. But and a little
bit on this topic, I have a huge, juicy ass
and the way it'd be sitting up sometimes, Oh my god,
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see myself in a dress, turn around.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Go look at those pictures of us in LA and we're.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Like, damn, we look exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
And then COVID happened.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, COVID really ruined, not so much ruined, but you know,
trying to blame COVID changed my trajectory on a lot
of things. But the way that my ass looks is
very gender affirming for me. When the girls get bbl's,
which I did not get I got this natural, but
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some people don't. And that's okay, that's why they created
the baby out the Brazilian butt lift. When your homegirl
goes and gets one that is gender and your homeboy
or your homeboy, I said homegirl because I only know
home my homegirls that have gotten them. But she is
absolutely right. When somebody, you know, your home person maybe
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goes to get a BBL in the Dominican Republic and
has to fly back on that flight to Miami turned
around because they can't sit in the seat because I
just got BBL, that is gender affirming care. That is
somebody saying, oh my gosh, I need this to look
the way that I feel like I should look to
make myself feel a certain type of way. Exactly shake
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what you pay for person. Mm hmm, I say girl,
But I really do you say girl like people say
guys do?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I do too, And I'm trying. I know this is
I do use it gender neutrally, but it's like guys
gender truly. But if anybody were to have a problem
with me saying that about them, I would obviously stop.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I'm gonna hit them with the person that's my that's
my middle ground human being because that's what we all are.
We're human beings. So when we go get that BBL
or the breast augmentation, some folks are like, you know
what these these puppies because I want to call them girls.
You guys, I'm about to take a gender history and
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of exactly when these bad boys start to bad boying
or aren't bad boying enough, some people may go get
breast augmentation and.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
They start to flatten out, especially if you've breastfed. You know,
sometimes you want to get them a little lifted sometimes felt.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Exactly, because that is ultimately also what this is about.
Sometimes we gotta feel okay about ourselves. We can't just
feel like, gosh, we're not enough or we're never gonna
be enough, We're never gonna look right. That is where
gender firm and care can come from. That twenty inch
bus down, it doesn't matter who it's on, law roach
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killing it with the hair.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Are you gonna talk about like cancer and reconstruction? Okay,
so i'll.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
That is another instance of gender firm and care. You're
looking the way that you would like to look for
whatever reason. Another instance, and this is actually it doesn't
hit like super close to home for me, Thank goodness,
you know, knock on wood. But I think of this
woman that I work with. She's phenomenal. She had her
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breast removed, she had breast cancer, and as a result
of those breasts being removed, one of the things that
she actually chose not to do, she did not get
breast in plants. Some people do post augment or not
augmentation removal. They'll say, you know what, I don't like this.
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I would like to get breast implants. And some folks
take it a step further and maybe they'll get the
nipple tattooed back on. It's all about you looking and
existing in the way that you feel is appropriate for you,
and that is not relevant to any other person. And
I am so sorry to the Republicans and the people
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that call themselves Christians, and the haters that say, well,
this person was born like this and so did it out.
Were you in the room, babe? If you were not
in the room, mind your damn business. It has nothing
to do with you. Another instance, and this is an
easy one. This is an accessible one. So surgery can
sometimes be non accessible, but wearing makeup that can be
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gender affirming care when your girl has the Harry's on
our chin. I carry a pair of tweezers with me
because I do not like those hairs. I don't want
them there, and so I remove them pretty much all
day because god damn, I'm a hairy bitch.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
So you should get to harry menopause too. And our
pcost babes.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Oh my gosh, you know, I shout out to the
PCOS people because I'm gonna tell you you are stronger.
You are God's strongest soldiers. Whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Guards seriously, but.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Doing things color correction around the face, making sure that
your face maybe doesn't have the Sometimes i'd be having
that little shadow right above my lip. I don't like that.
It makes me feel not great about myself. I'm gonna
make up it out. I'm going to do these different things.
And so my question, oh and this last one, this
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is for those Republicans haters and master my second to
last one, because I am gonna actually touch on mar
Olago face. I'm glad you said that. My second to
last one lifted trucks. You little diet babies.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
That is gender, that's just a penile implant.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Because let me tell you exactly it's basically a penile implant.
I live in a space where there's a ton of
lifted trucks and you know the people getting out of them,
people that present as men. And I'm gonna say it
like that because I'm not in the bedroom and I
don't give a fuck what is between their legs.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
They're like five foot three and they have the attitude
of a chihuahua.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
They do. They are little chihuahuas. This's gender firming care.
You are presenting your masculinity through a vehicle, and I
just want you to know that every time we see
one and then we see you, we know why you
bought that hundred thousand dollars truck. We know, we know, and.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
We judge you for it because there's nothing wrong penis
havers with having a key, so average penis there's nothing
wrong with that. But we are gonna judge Republicans.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And we are going to judge you. I mean, you're
killing the planet so that you can drive a truck
that's probably gonna break down in a couple of months,
and you're gonna spend thousands of dollars every year keeping
it on the road because you jack that shuit up
so that's you. But my last last point that Windsor
just brought up, and this is my favorite point. So
I'm really glad that she said this because it was
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in my notes and I kind of breezed past it.
Different forms of plastic surgery, and that I am speaking
specifically to the Republican Party. Matt Gates, Laura Lumer, Christine.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
She's a fire her doctor, Fire her doctor too.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Donald Trump, I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
He just needs to fire himself.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
He does need to fire himself. There is so much tender,
affirming care betwixt all of the Republican Party. It seems
like right now we got you know, Mike Johnson, he's
been hitting the blush a little hard lately. He looks
like in when they were about to do West Side
Story and he had to keep my baby alone. Listen,
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that's what Mike Johnson looks like sometimes. And I know
that sounds like I am not being very nice to him,
but you know what, once you start removing rights from
people and treating people was less than you get to
be spoken to however you want. And it is my
first amendment right, And think of the Marlago face where
plumping our lips up where like pomp and fillers into
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our face.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
All of them look like Joan Rivers. But at least
Joan Rivers knew she looked.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Craon Rivers owned it. She did, she knew she got
one too many as if they did not. They are
aligning themselves with things that they judge other folks for,
all of their faces, their features, what they've you know, essentially,
I'll say done to their bodies. But I don't mean
that at a negative. I mean it as a statement
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of fact. All of these things align with cultures people
that they have for a long time actively worked to
hold down, and then they design their entire aesthetic on that.
Kim Kardashian literally Kim Kardashian. Kim Kardashian and her introduction
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and her reduction of her assets another gender affirming here moment.
And I say all of that not to you know,
shade or say anything super negative if that's what makes
you happy. Except for procept from surgery. He does not
get any joy out of me. He is an awful
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person and not Jdvans like. I think that due to
where eyeliner go off.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I think that you look great play with exactly. You
want to know why, because it is such a flexible,
imaginary thing. We do not have to live in these confines,
but we have decided as a group based on whatever,
and I mean as a collective group individual patriarchy exactly.
Actually fuck the patriarchy, because that's where all of these
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issues really do call it.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
From everything wrong with this country cough from white patriarchy.
But that is another fucking episode and weekend.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
And they're the ones that want us to align genders
with our biological sex. And finally, last person that I'm
gonna talk about, Donald Trump, you small hand tanned baby.
Your tan is part of your affirming care because and
your to pay, I'll always gonna bring that up next.
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And your wig, I'm not calling it a to pay,
it's a wig. Your wig, your lace front, your lace front,
that's not even lacy. Come on, get you a good friend.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
You have enough money to get you a good wig.
This is what happens, and.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
The guy'll help you wig. Stop buying them timu wigs.
All together, these things are affirming who you are and
how you are. They are gender affirming care. They do
not have anything to do with your biological sex. And
they're okay, we all are from our genders in one
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way or another, and it is not an issue.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
No, so yeah, not at all.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
That's my piece, not at all.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
And we're going to take a quick break and come back. Okay. Also,
I wanted to real quick so we didn't sidetrack more
men working out men. We're going to the gym is
gender affirming care because in America, as we talked about
before last week, actually hyper masculinity culture is the supreme culture.
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And therefore the bigger you are, the better you look,
the more masculine you are. That is gender affirming care.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
That's why they are so mad when women go to
the gym.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
You will never catch me out of fucking Golds. Get the
fuck out of here.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I love a gym.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I love a gym, but I do not like a Golds.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
I used to date a bodybuilder when I was eighteen
years old. Yes, when I tell you, I will never
go to a fucking Gold, and I would never let
my daughters go to a Golds.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Oh is it rapie?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Oh so bad. But also quickly before I get back
into the kids, which is also relevant to children, also
intersects people. Yeah, they get this care quote unquote care
oftentimes at birth. If it presents at birth, they don't
get a choice in that, which is not okay, And
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that's something we can maybe chat about at a future date.
But when they get older and they start to go
through puberty, their their gender will start to or can
rather can start to present differently than what they are expecting.
It is gender affirming care for them to get to
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do whatever they want to do to make themselves feel
better about themselves.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Absolutely without question.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Because sometimes you don't know until all of a sudden
you start you're born presenting female, and now you're going
through puberty and you're getting a mustache, you're getting a beard,
you get more testosterone, you're not getting a period. So
that was also something that's being stripped away too when
you strip away these things. I wanted to touch briefly
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on gender firming care and kids and what it actually
looks like. So, first and foremost, no sex changes at school.
Well what happens before puberty. So in children that happens
before puberty is all purely social. In addition to mental
health care. They may change their names, they may change
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how they dress, they may change their hairstyle or go
by different pronouns, and they may change their mind back
and forth. That is the part when they are discovering
themselves and they're figuring out who they are as people. Yep,
some kids know from the very beginning. There are toddlers
and they're like, oh, look at this little girl, and
it's like, I'm not a little girl. They know, they
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inherently know, and it really is all about visiting visits
with those specialty mental health care providers. First and foremost,
before you could do anything, you have to have a
diagnosis of gender dysphoria. And that's not just like oh
I think I'm a boy. That doesn't get you a
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diagnosis of gender dysphoria. These are intense, literally intense sessions.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
And they're not playing around.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
They're not they are absolutely not. During puberty and after
puberty you may get some medical interventions, but that might
be things like cormone replacement therapy, puberty blockers, and really
puberty blockers really gives the kids an extra few years
to kind of figure everything out because it's easier to
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transition body wise if you don't go through that first
puberty or you don't go through it unassisted. So for example,
if you are presented female at birth and you are
trans masked. If you stop puberty blockers, your breast will
not develop, and that could be easier during your transition
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later because either your breasts are going to be much
smaller or in some cases just a regular masculine appearing chest.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
So, but guess what, children start puberty as long as
young as eight years old. It's frightening giving them a
puberty blocker, which children sistshend Your children get puberty blockers too,
for a myriad of reasons. That's why they exist. To
get them from age nine to thirteen while they really
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figure out who they are and where they want to
be is not the end of the world, and that's reversible.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Imagine giving somebody autonomy over their own.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Autonomy, and guess what they stop puberty blockers. They go
through puberty like most would. What you would see with
a delayed puberty is maybe smaller breasts than they would
have been, or you know, you won't get as tall,
especially in uh people who presents male at birth, You're
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not going to get as tall.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
And that's okay. Trust that's fine.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Out that is okay, and you know what that can be.
So gender affirming too. You know what else, people get
hormone replacement therapy for and puberty blockers and all this
other stuff when they have cancer, yep, pediatric cancers a
lot of times, so they'll do a puberty blocker because
those hormones can make it developed faster.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
And as somebody that develops ridiculously fast, I personally would
have honestly welcomed that I had like a full rack
by the time I was ten, and that's ten years old, ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
At ten years old, I was still playing with barbies.
I was still out there playing with my friends over
there to the street like it's on. But yet now
we're out here like looking like little women with these
grown ass men. Exactly we're being targeted now, and that's exactly.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
What was happening. And so I at that age would
have greatly appreciated something of that capacity. Now, I mean,
I live in the South and men a RAPI so
nobody cared mat or men how I felt about it.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Men are always gonna be men.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
If I had had a daughter, that would be something
that I would be very aware of because it had
such an impact on my childhood.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I know someone whose daughter actually had to go on
puberty blockers because she started developing breast buds at six
oh bab and guess what they took her off at
eleven she developed perfectly normal. She is magic, amazing. It's
magic because it can be so detrimental, detrimental to a growing,
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developing body to start puberty before it is ready. It's
been linked to cancers, It's been linked to so many
different things, which is why it exists exactly. And when
you take it away from trans kids, you make it
more difficult for everyone to get it because now it's stigmatized.
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And I also saw something. So Studies have shown that
if you were born female signed female up earth, as
you age, you need more testosterone. It has been linked
to women who get testosterone replacement so hormone replacement therapy.
It has been linked to lower instances of Alzheimer's and dementia,
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lower cases of cancer. You're more awake, you are able
to function, you are like but yet you can't fucking
get it. You know what? You know what Viagar was
invented for. Biagar was invented for women with scalarederma. Yes, especially,
it was so that they don't so when you have Sclarederma,
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this is gonna be this episode might run a little
bit over. So basically, your you don't have good you
don't have good circulation, your fingers and toes can literally
auto amputate, so you lose the Literally you will start
to see like your it doesn't just fall off, it
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just kind of like shrinks over.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Time, freaky.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
So you know it can help with that Viagra si Alis.
I didn't know that's what they were made for.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I knew it wasn't for a real it was made.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
For people with circulate women with circulation issues. Guess who.
When I worked for rheumatology, I couldn't get them literally
a medication that can save the use of their hands.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Because it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Literally would be the difference between being able to work
and being disabled. And I could not get them a
thirty day. I would sit here and fight. I'm like,
what are you talking about? But you know who can
get it. You can't get it up, Brad, You can't
get it up, So we're gonna give you this. Chad's
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are you fucking kidding?
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Meson? Whose name is Brad or Chad? And in that case, Brad.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Or Chad, I'm judging you. You could choose any name
you want, and you choose Brad or Chad Bro.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Is that what you do with your free will?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Bro? Seriously, seriously, But we don't get into actually medical
as far as surgeries until that minor is old enough
for informed consent, which is why it is imperative. The
younger they are when they start to realize that they
may they feel different, that you know, maybe they don't
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feel like the gender they are assigned, the sooner you
get them into therapy and the sooner you are able
to start care one. It has been proven that it's
better for their mental health. You live longer, less depression,
your imagine acceptance, radical acceptance. Right, oh my god, So
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you have this time to make up these minds. But
also depending on what you did when you were younger.
For example, there are teenagers that get breast augmentations because
they're very very heavy chested, and those jobs those there
are medical nose jobs. And guess what those sixteen year
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old girls that are getting their nose jobs. That is
gender affirming care. I actually had a note about that.
But for example, if you did not go on any
hormone blockers or puberty blockers, your breasts have to develop
a certain amount before you could get any surgery done
to them, because if you get a mastectomy or a
reduction done too soon, they will continue to grow and
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there will be complications which would piss me off. At
being said, there's a certain at seventeen I think is
the earliest that you'll be able to get a kind
of surgery. And I do know someone who was able
to get their surgery at seventeen. They were able to
get top surgery at seventeen, but they started their transition
when they were eleven years old. This isn't something that
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just happens overnight. And like I said, most effects of HRT,
especially as a developing teenager, are reversible. You just might
you just might not be as tall, your breasts might
not grow as big, things like that. It's the only
things that are obviously not reversible are if you become infertile,
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which is actually very rare. It is pretty rare to
actually become and fertile from hormone replacement. There, So that's
pretty much it. That is the whole of getting gender
affirming care as a child. We're talking about social transitions.
Little Becky might decide to start going as little Bobby.
Bobby might start wearing dresses and want to go as Sarah,
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or you know what, maybe little Julia wants to She'll
still go by Julia, but she wants to have a tomboys.
When we were little, every single little girl who did
not ascribe to dresses was considered a tomboy.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
That's still gender affirming, even if those same little tomboys
grew up to be little prissy.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Girls, literally right in front of you.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Because that's what they wanted at that time. That's how
they felt good in themselves because there were children.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Your girl loved to rock a pair of Jenkos and
a big ass hoodie.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Evil is in a big ass hoodie now.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yep, exactly like welcome parents.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
That was all I mean, that's like, what is the
big deal about? Like, I get it, I fucking get it.
A lot of it is Western culture and Christianity. And
if we go far enough back, everything everything goes back
to Christianity, everything goes back to colonization. Be a good Protestant,
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be a good Catholic. You know you know what else
is considered just real quick before we end. And men
and boys get this all the time camouflage. They get
mistectomies for what gina komastia because camastia is when men
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develop breast tissue. Oh it's actually it's I'm not adult.
Let me let me google this. How how common it is?
Ands Up to seventy percent of males in early to
mid puberty do experience it because of normal hormone fluctuations
during puberty. Obviously, these go you know, if it makes
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you uncomfortable, which I can see why right as a boy,
children are cruel citiously, but yeah, those meds. Additionally, up
to sixty five percent of adult men, especially between fifteen
and eighty, can also be affected by guidocomastia, and if
it's prominent enough, they will undergo amystectomy to take away
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that extra tissue.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
As gender affirming care as.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Gender affirming care, and guess what, if we take away
gender affirming care for trans people, we will also take
it away from cisgender people because guess what, that doctor
is not going to feel comfortable, even if they know
they even if they're the cool doctor, when their license
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is at risk, they're going to take less risk. So
when you criminalize health care, you're going to take it
away from everyone.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
You are just punching down the line. At that point,
you are swinging for that low hanging fruit. The trans
individuals in our community that are already experiencing such just
ridiculous amounts of violence every single day just for being themselves,
and you are punching down the line. You are saying
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to everybody, Hey, they can't have it, and neither can you.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Ask just so we're clear before we go, before I
have my last little line at the end of the day,
banding and defunding this vital health care is not about
protecting about protecting children. It is about control and about power.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
That's it. And you know at some point we'll go
into deeper dives about different things. But yeah, this definitely
went over our half an hour. But you know, these
are those things that we need to talk about because
trans kids die all the fucking time, and every single
time they get two steps forward, they get thrown three
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steps back in this fucking country and this fucking world.
Because it's not just America. I'm gonna need people to
understand that, because go look.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
At the UK, highly stigmatized, and this is one look
at your shallow effort throwing a pebble into the pond
of unstigmatizing something as every day as everybody does it.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Everybody does it. Everybody you go to the gym to
get your muscles, bro, that's gender firming care.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Every time you flex in front of that mirror, gender
firming care.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Every time you get that tan, gender firming care, both
male and female exactly. Every time you look in the
mirror and you're like, ooh, these days make my butt
look big. Gender firming care, especially.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
When somebody else noticed.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
We love it, We love it. Oh. Honestly, if you're
a bad bitch, go in the bathroom. You don't even
have to be a bad bitch. You go into a
bathroom at a.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Bar, somebody is gonna let you know. You look phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Just take a second, I ask everybody, even if you
may not be one hundred percent comfortable or one hundred
percent knowledgeable with I won't to say the concept, but
I don't have really a better way of putting it.
Of transness in general, one learn, and it's not up
to trans people to teach you. Your free all the
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public library is free too. Will take your behind over
there and go start learning a thing or two. Just
live and let.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Live literally because what other people are doing. How do
you have time to worry about that?
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Why why do you have time? Like even live and
let live live your life. Lift people up. Remember that
your trans friends, neighbors, relatives, or more important than Harry
Potter exactly, fuck Joe Ane.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
So as always remember that you're that bitch, will forever
be that bitch no matter how you present to this world,
period always, even when you have your hair thrown up
in that messy bun and look like death warmed over,
you are still a bad bitch because bad bitch comes
from the inside. That's right, I'm gonna drink your water.
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We said that already. I don't remember what the.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
And have a great night, Have a great night.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
You know what. Clink clink, clink, good night.
Hi, it's Brittany and Windsor and you're listening to Thanks
I Hate It. The End Times, a weekly social commentary
podcast where two friends shoot the shit about social issues
mm hm. Throciated and suspecting targets.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
They should suspect at this point.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
They really should and drink from the top shelf because
we are. We're broke, but we're not that broke anymore.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, listen, A good top chef will get you drunker
longer and you won't wake up with a hangover. Befare
the same price to work. Clink clink, clink clink. So, Brittany,
what have you been up to this week?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You know what? I was having a solid week. My
brother and I we went out for his birthday yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
We have a happy birthday. I haven't seen him in years.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I know, and he's still like living for the moment
that he got to meet you. He's still so excited
about that. He'd be like, remember when I met your friend, Windsor.
And so we went and hung out yesterday. We went
into some witchy shops, we went to some museums. That's
shit that we do. And so that was all fine.
Got to work this morning and chaos reigned supreme. So
you know, just trying to exist in dealing with that.
(01:10):
What about yourself, my dear, So.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
The other day at work, you know, for a library,
you wouldn't think that a library could be as chaotic
as it is.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yes, I would.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
They're chaotic as fuck. If you don't know, it's the
bigger the library, the more chaotic it's gonna be. Oh,
Katy's in here. So all of a sudden, we hear
maintenance to children's. Okay, somebody threw up director to children's.
Oh shit, somebody busted their head open. That's the first
(01:44):
thing you think, because why would the director and maintenance
have to go there?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Never a good thing ever. Nobody busted their head open.
But we did have a surprise visitor, a bat. We
had a bat in the one of my cousins. Yeah,
like it was. It was quite a thing. The fire
department came because when you live in a town, that's
your animal control because they have the ladders, they have
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the gloves, whatever. So we we caught them. And so
we estimated that this children's room is about nine thousand
square feet.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
It's huge. That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
We sanitized the entire children's room in forty five minutes.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And then the next day I'm like, why the fuck
does my back feel like that? Like what did I do?
Did I sleep wrong? And then I remembered I was
bent over for forty five minutes as we scrubbed everything.
Happy bat Day, I guess, Happy bat Day. So yeah,
now we get to have the people come in to
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close off the chimney.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yay, sounds like a good time.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, oh no, it was fun. That was not fun.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
No, that's the kiss loved it.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
There were like the little kids who were outside like
vibrating over the fire truck, like, oh my god, it's
a fire truck.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I kind of love that.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
And then we have like windows like in the hallway
where you could look into like the preschool room and
you could see the bat flying and some of the
kids thought that was great. Okay, we also have a
fake tree in the kids room. It's really cute. But
the poor bat was like flying around its leaves. It's
trying to figure out what's going on and to get
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the fuck out of there, like please. Then, so the
firefighter has it right, he goes outside, he goes to
go let it go. It goes up and then it
scoops back down like it was about to come back inside,
and we're all just standing there like, don't fucking tell me,
but it ended flying away because at least with the
children's room, we can close that off. Our building is
(03:53):
sixty thousand square feet. Damn if we had a bat
lost in there, we would have had to close for like.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Two two days, yes, because that's how long it would
have taken to.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Find it one and then clean everything. So yeah, that
was fun. But Brittany, what are we talking about today?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
So today, much to the chagrin of you know, Republicans,
people that call themselves Christians just general haters, we are
going to be talking about gender affirming care. And the
reason that I listed this grouping of folks is because
it has come to you know, the general same person's
(04:34):
understanding that they do not have an understanding of what
gender affirming care truly is. And so we are going
to take you know, because our episodes are not super long,
We're going to take a pretty shallow dip into it.
But I can almost guarantee that at some point we
will take a deeper dive into gender affirming care because
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it is a realction of life that exists regardless of
your gender identity. Your gender identity, it's a part of
every aspect of our lives.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
And I got some gender firming care today. Literally, I
got eyebrows done.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Did you they look so good?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
It's good. They're cousins, yeah, oh, mine are always cousins.
Mine are never related, so it's fine. But they're at
least cousins, you know, first cousins. They're not like second
cousins once removed or anything.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, it is what it is. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
But yeah, we're talking about gender firming care, and so
I believe that whenter you're talking specifically about with the youths.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yes, So I am just going to do a quick,
quick overview of gender firming care for minors because this
seems to be the biggest hot button topic. Like these
people think that they're going to go to school as
a girl and come back with a sex change and
be a boy, and that's just not how it works.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
That's trendiculous. List it is the most context, it's no ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
You can't even get onto a fucking school bus to
go across the street without a parental signature. You. You
can't even learn about a penis and a vagina without
a parental signature. You can't even read a book like
To Kill a Mockingbird without a parental signature. You think
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that they're going to give sex changes away. And let's
also another thing. Teachers in most the vast majority of
this country pay for almost every single thing in their classrooms.
You really think that they can afford a sex change.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Working for your kid, even afford fucking school supplies exactly
because we pay them peanuts.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
My district does actually for eight and under provide all
of the school supplies.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I love that mind is not, but I will say
that I've seen kind of an uptick in family members
of people that are providing those Like I know that
Charles and I about a bunch of stuff for my
sister in law. She doesn't teach, but she is a
She basically is almost like the no like the like
a social worker, but they're not the official social workers
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because schools down here have different kind of expectations.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Counselor.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
It's kind of like a counselor. And so she provides
a lot of those things to children, and she buys
a lot of them, which means that we buy a
lot of them. And I've seen a lot of families
doing this because I mean, it's not getting easier. So
we got to step in.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, and just real quick off topic before we get
back on topic. This released for a topic next week.
But hot take here is that we need to stop
bitching about the teachers asking for specific products. Yes, as
a poor parent, I can attest it sucks when they
want something that costs more, but guess what uniformity they're
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communal If half the class doesn't provide it, guess what
your kids aren't gonna get it.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Period.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
They're asking everybody to bring in. So because they have
a you're I'm only gonna buy it for me, but
blah blah, blah blah, you could put your name on
it all they want. Guess what. That box of crans
is getting dumped into the communal crans. So when they
need a black cran and a red cran, they're gonna
take the bucket of black crans and red crans and
don't buy no goddamn rosart, and they're gonna give them
to the kids.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
That's where I do buy rosart. You want to know why,
because we're doing what we can when we can.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Don't buy ros Art because they're just gonna go in
the trash anyway, and you could get twenty five cent
crans before school starts. I don't want to hear it.
Don't buy Rosart.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Now, I'm gonna give her that one. I'm she gonna
take that one. I'm gonna let her have that heart take.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
But getting back, yeah, getting back to it to.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Where we are. So I'm gonna start us out by
giving one the definition of gender affirming care, and then
I want us to sit with this definition for a
moment and think about how it relates. Hold space for it,
what we are hearing from the powers that be, the Republicans,
the people that call themselves Christians, general haters, and let's
(09:04):
see if it aligns. And that moment will be a
real quick moment. But gender affirming care, as defined by
the World Health Organization is essentially a range of social, psychological, behavioral,
and medical interventions designed to support an affirm an individual's
gender identity. That's the end of the sentence. Full stop,
(09:31):
full stop. And so let's take a moment of silence.
Moments done space. Nope, we held that space for the
dummies we're holding space for dummies, so they don't get
a lot of our time. With that definition of mind
designated to support an affirm and an individual's gender identity,
guess what we all have regardless of our biological sex?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
A gender?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
A gender? Yay, I have a gender because gender and
biological sex or sex assigned at birth are two different things.
Sex is the biological aspect what you were physically born
with at the time of your birth. Gender is your expression.
How are you expressing your gender? I personally like to
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express my gender and this feels very gender affirming for
me personally. In my hair, I love to do different
things with my hair. It makes me feel pretty and
nice and whatever. When I do different things with my hair,
when I really take the time to care for it
and to make it look the way that I want
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it to look before going to do something, that is
me taking a moment to affirm my gender, and that
affirmation is for me, by me. So that I was
gonna say that means that maybe another person that looks
or doesn't look like me, that their gender aligns with
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mine or doesn't align with mine, may do the same
thing and it could affirm their gender in a different way,
and that's okay because gender and gender expression are deeply
personal things and they don't have to mean the same
thing for every single person.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
And they're also it's incredibly nuanced personally. I like my
boobs to be breasting boobly like when I like I
like when they're just bouncing along doing their own things.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
She wants the bangs out there.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
That's that is gender affirming to me.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I like having boobs. I mean, they get in my
way and I could be whatever about them, but still
that's gender affirming. Another person who is also a CIS
woman may not want to have that, or because of
whatever cultural religious believes in covering being more conservative about it.
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That's still it's it's all a nuance of things, and
everyone is going to feel differently about what they were
born with, developed, bought whatever exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
And I'm actually glad that you went with that option
because I want to go through just kind of a
mid level list. It's not long, it's not short, it's
just kind of in the middle of things that are
gender affirming care that we don't think about on a
day to day basis. And I want you to remember
that these things are not dictated by any particular sex
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or presentation. It's really relevant to the individual. And because
we are nuanced, multifaceted beings, what is gender affirming to me?
What is gender affirming to windsor her like? And I
have her titties all just bouncing all over the place.
I personally, I'm getting the world's most you know, supportive
(12:56):
sports bra. And those bitches won't move because I said
they won't move.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I like seeing them kind of like bouncing the sports bra.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Na, Man, I want those ships locked down. I might
as well be wearing a freaking binder sometimes because I
don't want them in my way. But and a little
bit on this topic, I have a huge, juicy ass
and the way it'd be sitting up sometimes, Oh my god,
(13:26):
see myself in a dress, turn around.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Go look at those pictures of us in LA and we're.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Like, damn, we look exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
And then COVID happened.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, COVID really ruined, not so much ruined, but you know,
trying to blame COVID changed my trajectory on a lot
of things. But the way that my ass looks is
very gender affirming for me. When the girls get bbl's,
which I did not get I got this natural, but
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some people don't. And that's okay, that's why they created
the baby out the Brazilian butt lift. When your homegirl
goes and gets one that is gender and your homeboy
or your homeboy, I said homegirl because I only know
home my homegirls that have gotten them. But she is
absolutely right. When somebody, you know, your home person maybe
(14:22):
goes to get a BBL in the Dominican Republic and
has to fly back on that flight to Miami turned
around because they can't sit in the seat because I
just got BBL, that is gender affirming care. That is
somebody saying, oh my gosh, I need this to look
the way that I feel like I should look to
make myself feel a certain type of way. Exactly shake
(14:47):
what you pay for person. Mm hmm, I say girl,
But I really do you say girl like people say
guys do?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I do too, And I'm trying. I know this is
I do use it gender neutrally, but it's like guys
gender truly. But if anybody were to have a problem
with me saying that about them, I would obviously stop.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I'm gonna hit them with the person that's my that's
my middle ground human being because that's what we all are.
We're human beings. So when we go get that BBL
or the breast augmentation, some folks are like, you know
what these these puppies because I want to call them girls.
You guys, I'm about to take a gender history and
(15:30):
of exactly when these bad boys start to bad boying
or aren't bad boying enough, some people may go get
breast augmentation and.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
They start to flatten out, especially if you've breastfed. You know,
sometimes you want to get them a little lifted sometimes felt.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Exactly, because that is ultimately also what this is about.
Sometimes we gotta feel okay about ourselves. We can't just
feel like, gosh, we're not enough or we're never gonna
be enough, We're never gonna look right. That is where
gender firm and care can come from. That twenty inch
bus down, it doesn't matter who it's on, law roach
(16:11):
killing it with the hair.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Are you gonna talk about like cancer and reconstruction? Okay,
so i'll.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
That is another instance of gender firm and care. You're
looking the way that you would like to look for
whatever reason. Another instance, and this is actually it doesn't
hit like super close to home for me, Thank goodness,
you know, knock on wood. But I think of this
woman that I work with. She's phenomenal. She had her
(16:43):
breast removed, she had breast cancer, and as a result
of those breasts being removed, one of the things that
she actually chose not to do, she did not get
breast in plants. Some people do post augment or not
augmentation removal. They'll say, you know what, I don't like this.
(17:05):
I would like to get breast implants. And some folks
take it a step further and maybe they'll get the
nipple tattooed back on. It's all about you looking and
existing in the way that you feel is appropriate for you,
and that is not relevant to any other person. And
I am so sorry to the Republicans and the people
(17:27):
that call themselves Christians, and the haters that say, well,
this person was born like this and so did it out.
Were you in the room, babe? If you were not
in the room, mind your damn business. It has nothing
to do with you. Another instance, and this is an
easy one. This is an accessible one. So surgery can
sometimes be non accessible, but wearing makeup that can be
(17:51):
gender affirming care when your girl has the Harry's on
our chin. I carry a pair of tweezers with me
because I do not like those hairs. I don't want
them there, and so I remove them pretty much all
day because god damn, I'm a hairy bitch.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
So you should get to harry menopause too. And our
pcost babes.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Oh my gosh, you know, I shout out to the
PCOS people because I'm gonna tell you you are stronger.
You are God's strongest soldiers. Whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Guards seriously, but.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Doing things color correction around the face, making sure that
your face maybe doesn't have the Sometimes i'd be having
that little shadow right above my lip. I don't like that.
It makes me feel not great about myself. I'm gonna
make up it out. I'm going to do these different things.
And so my question, oh and this last one, this
(18:49):
is for those Republicans haters and master my second to
last one, because I am gonna actually touch on mar
Olago face. I'm glad you said that. My second to
last one lifted trucks. You little diet babies.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
That is gender, that's just a penile implant.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Because let me tell you exactly it's basically a penile implant.
I live in a space where there's a ton of
lifted trucks and you know the people getting out of them,
people that present as men. And I'm gonna say it
like that because I'm not in the bedroom and I
don't give a fuck what is between their legs.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
They're like five foot three and they have the attitude
of a chihuahua.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
They do. They are little chihuahuas. This's gender firming care.
You are presenting your masculinity through a vehicle, and I
just want you to know that every time we see
one and then we see you, we know why you
bought that hundred thousand dollars truck. We know, we know, and.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
We judge you for it because there's nothing wrong penis
havers with having a key, so average penis there's nothing
wrong with that. But we are gonna judge Republicans.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And we are going to judge you. I mean, you're
killing the planet so that you can drive a truck
that's probably gonna break down in a couple of months,
and you're gonna spend thousands of dollars every year keeping
it on the road because you jack that shuit up
so that's you. But my last last point that Windsor
just brought up, and this is my favorite point. So
I'm really glad that she said this because it was
(20:21):
in my notes and I kind of breezed past it.
Different forms of plastic surgery, and that I am speaking
specifically to the Republican Party. Matt Gates, Laura Lumer, Christine.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
She's a fire her doctor, Fire her doctor too.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Donald Trump, I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
He just needs to fire himself.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
He does need to fire himself. There is so much tender,
affirming care betwixt all of the Republican Party. It seems
like right now we got you know, Mike Johnson, he's
been hitting the blush a little hard lately. He looks
like in when they were about to do West Side
Story and he had to keep my baby alone. Listen,
(21:09):
that's what Mike Johnson looks like sometimes. And I know
that sounds like I am not being very nice to him,
but you know what, once you start removing rights from
people and treating people was less than you get to
be spoken to however you want. And it is my
first amendment right, And think of the Marlago face where
plumping our lips up where like pomp and fillers into
(21:31):
our face.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
All of them look like Joan Rivers. But at least
Joan Rivers knew she looked.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Craon Rivers owned it. She did, she knew she got
one too many as if they did not. They are
aligning themselves with things that they judge other folks for,
all of their faces, their features, what they've you know, essentially,
I'll say done to their bodies. But I don't mean
that at a negative. I mean it as a statement
(21:56):
of fact. All of these things align with cultures people
that they have for a long time actively worked to
hold down, and then they design their entire aesthetic on that.
Kim Kardashian literally Kim Kardashian. Kim Kardashian and her introduction
(22:16):
and her reduction of her assets another gender affirming here moment.
And I say all of that not to you know,
shade or say anything super negative if that's what makes
you happy. Except for procept from surgery. He does not
get any joy out of me. He is an awful
(22:37):
person and not Jdvans like. I think that due to
where eyeliner go off.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I think that you look great play with exactly. You
want to know why, because it is such a flexible,
imaginary thing. We do not have to live in these confines,
but we have decided as a group based on whatever,
and I mean as a collective group individual patriarchy exactly.
Actually fuck the patriarchy, because that's where all of these
(23:06):
issues really do call it.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
From everything wrong with this country cough from white patriarchy.
But that is another fucking episode and weekend.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
And they're the ones that want us to align genders
with our biological sex. And finally, last person that I'm
gonna talk about, Donald Trump, you small hand tanned baby.
Your tan is part of your affirming care because and
your to pay, I'll always gonna bring that up next.
(23:37):
And your wig, I'm not calling it a to pay,
it's a wig. Your wig, your lace front, your lace front,
that's not even lacy. Come on, get you a good friend.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
You have enough money to get you a good wig.
This is what happens, and.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
The guy'll help you wig. Stop buying them timu wigs.
All together, these things are affirming who you are and
how you are. They are gender affirming care. They do
not have anything to do with your biological sex. And
they're okay, we all are from our genders in one
(24:18):
way or another, and it is not an issue.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
No, so yeah, not at all.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
That's my piece, not at all.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
And we're going to take a quick break and come back. Okay. Also,
I wanted to real quick so we didn't sidetrack more
men working out men. We're going to the gym is
gender affirming care because in America, as we talked about
before last week, actually hyper masculinity culture is the supreme culture.
(24:49):
And therefore the bigger you are, the better you look,
the more masculine you are. That is gender affirming care.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
That's why they are so mad when women go to
the gym.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
You will never catch me out of fucking Golds. Get the
fuck out of here.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I love a gym.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I love a gym, but I do not like a Golds.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
I used to date a bodybuilder when I was eighteen
years old. Yes, when I tell you, I will never
go to a fucking Gold, and I would never let
my daughters go to a Golds.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Oh is it rapie?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Oh so bad. But also quickly before I get back
into the kids, which is also relevant to children, also
intersects people. Yeah, they get this care quote unquote care
oftentimes at birth. If it presents at birth, they don't
get a choice in that, which is not okay, And
(25:42):
that's something we can maybe chat about at a future date.
But when they get older and they start to go
through puberty, their their gender will start to or can
rather can start to present differently than what they are expecting.
It is gender affirming care for them to get to
(26:04):
do whatever they want to do to make themselves feel
better about themselves.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Absolutely without question.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Because sometimes you don't know until all of a sudden
you start you're born presenting female, and now you're going
through puberty and you're getting a mustache, you're getting a beard,
you get more testosterone, you're not getting a period. So
that was also something that's being stripped away too when
you strip away these things. I wanted to touch briefly
(26:32):
on gender firming care and kids and what it actually
looks like. So, first and foremost, no sex changes at school.
Well what happens before puberty. So in children that happens
before puberty is all purely social. In addition to mental
health care. They may change their names, they may change
(26:55):
how they dress, they may change their hairstyle or go
by different pronouns, and they may change their mind back
and forth. That is the part when they are discovering
themselves and they're figuring out who they are as people. Yep,
some kids know from the very beginning. There are toddlers
and they're like, oh, look at this little girl, and
it's like, I'm not a little girl. They know, they
(27:18):
inherently know, and it really is all about visiting visits
with those specialty mental health care providers. First and foremost,
before you could do anything, you have to have a
diagnosis of gender dysphoria. And that's not just like oh
I think I'm a boy. That doesn't get you a
(27:39):
diagnosis of gender dysphoria. These are intense, literally intense sessions.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
And they're not playing around.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
They're not they are absolutely not. During puberty and after
puberty you may get some medical interventions, but that might
be things like cormone replacement therapy, puberty blockers, and really
puberty blockers really gives the kids an extra few years
to kind of figure everything out because it's easier to
(28:07):
transition body wise if you don't go through that first
puberty or you don't go through it unassisted. So for example,
if you are presented female at birth and you are
trans masked. If you stop puberty blockers, your breast will
not develop, and that could be easier during your transition
(28:31):
later because either your breasts are going to be much
smaller or in some cases just a regular masculine appearing chest.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
So, but guess what, children start puberty as long as
young as eight years old. It's frightening giving them a
puberty blocker, which children sistshend Your children get puberty blockers too,
for a myriad of reasons. That's why they exist. To
get them from age nine to thirteen while they really
(29:02):
figure out who they are and where they want to
be is not the end of the world, and that's reversible.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Imagine giving somebody autonomy over their own.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Autonomy, and guess what they stop puberty blockers. They go
through puberty like most would. What you would see with
a delayed puberty is maybe smaller breasts than they would
have been, or you know, you won't get as tall,
especially in uh people who presents male at birth, You're
(29:33):
not going to get as tall.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
And that's okay. Trust that's fine.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Out that is okay, and you know what that can be.
So gender affirming too. You know what else, people get
hormone replacement therapy for and puberty blockers and all this
other stuff when they have cancer, yep, pediatric cancers a
lot of times, so they'll do a puberty blocker because
those hormones can make it developed faster.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
And as somebody that develops ridiculously fast, I personally would
have honestly welcomed that I had like a full rack
by the time I was ten, and that's ten years old, ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
At ten years old, I was still playing with barbies.
I was still out there playing with my friends over
there to the street like it's on. But yet now
we're out here like looking like little women with these
grown ass men. Exactly we're being targeted now, and that's exactly.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
What was happening. And so I at that age would
have greatly appreciated something of that capacity. Now, I mean,
I live in the South and men a RAPI so
nobody cared mat or men how I felt about it.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Men are always gonna be men.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
If I had had a daughter, that would be something
that I would be very aware of because it had
such an impact on my childhood.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I know someone whose daughter actually had to go on
puberty blockers because she started developing breast buds at six
oh bab and guess what they took her off at
eleven she developed perfectly normal. She is magic, amazing. It's
magic because it can be so detrimental, detrimental to a growing,
(31:14):
developing body to start puberty before it is ready. It's
been linked to cancers, It's been linked to so many
different things, which is why it exists exactly. And when
you take it away from trans kids, you make it
more difficult for everyone to get it because now it's stigmatized.
(31:35):
And I also saw something. So Studies have shown that
if you were born female signed female up earth, as
you age, you need more testosterone. It has been linked
to women who get testosterone replacement so hormone replacement therapy.
It has been linked to lower instances of Alzheimer's and dementia,
(31:58):
lower cases of cancer. You're more awake, you are able
to function, you are like but yet you can't fucking
get it. You know what? You know what Viagar was
invented for. Biagar was invented for women with scalarederma. Yes, especially,
it was so that they don't so when you have Sclarederma,
(32:18):
this is gonna be this episode might run a little
bit over. So basically, your you don't have good you
don't have good circulation, your fingers and toes can literally
auto amputate, so you lose the Literally you will start
to see like your it doesn't just fall off, it
(32:39):
just kind of like shrinks over.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Time, freaky.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
So you know it can help with that Viagra si Alis.
I didn't know that's what they were made for.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I knew it wasn't for a real it was made.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
For people with circulate women with circulation issues. Guess who.
When I worked for rheumatology, I couldn't get them literally
a medication that can save the use of their hands.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Because it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Literally would be the difference between being able to work
and being disabled. And I could not get them a
thirty day. I would sit here and fight. I'm like,
what are you talking about? But you know who can
get it. You can't get it up, Brad, You can't
get it up, So we're gonna give you this. Chad's
(33:29):
are you fucking kidding?
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Meson? Whose name is Brad or Chad? And in that case, Brad.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Or Chad, I'm judging you. You could choose any name
you want, and you choose Brad or Chad Bro.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Is that what you do with your free will?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Bro? Seriously, seriously, But we don't get into actually medical
as far as surgeries until that minor is old enough
for informed consent, which is why it is imperative. The
younger they are when they start to realize that they
may they feel different, that you know, maybe they don't
(34:10):
feel like the gender they are assigned, the sooner you
get them into therapy and the sooner you are able
to start care one. It has been proven that it's
better for their mental health. You live longer, less depression,
your imagine acceptance, radical acceptance. Right, oh my god, So
(34:31):
you have this time to make up these minds. But
also depending on what you did when you were younger.
For example, there are teenagers that get breast augmentations because
they're very very heavy chested, and those jobs those there
are medical nose jobs. And guess what those sixteen year
(34:53):
old girls that are getting their nose jobs. That is
gender affirming care. I actually had a note about that.
But for example, if you did not go on any
hormone blockers or puberty blockers, your breasts have to develop
a certain amount before you could get any surgery done
to them, because if you get a mastectomy or a
reduction done too soon, they will continue to grow and
(35:15):
there will be complications which would piss me off. At
being said, there's a certain at seventeen I think is
the earliest that you'll be able to get a kind
of surgery. And I do know someone who was able
to get their surgery at seventeen. They were able to
get top surgery at seventeen, but they started their transition
when they were eleven years old. This isn't something that
(35:36):
just happens overnight. And like I said, most effects of HRT,
especially as a developing teenager, are reversible. You just might
you just might not be as tall, your breasts might
not grow as big, things like that. It's the only
things that are obviously not reversible are if you become infertile,
(36:00):
which is actually very rare. It is pretty rare to
actually become and fertile from hormone replacement. There, So that's
pretty much it. That is the whole of getting gender
affirming care as a child. We're talking about social transitions.
Little Becky might decide to start going as little Bobby.
Bobby might start wearing dresses and want to go as Sarah,
(36:22):
or you know what, maybe little Julia wants to She'll
still go by Julia, but she wants to have a tomboys.
When we were little, every single little girl who did
not ascribe to dresses was considered a tomboy.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
That's still gender affirming, even if those same little tomboys
grew up to be little prissy.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Girls, literally right in front of you.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Because that's what they wanted at that time. That's how
they felt good in themselves because there were children.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Your girl loved to rock a pair of Jenkos and
a big ass hoodie.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Evil is in a big ass hoodie now.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yep, exactly like welcome parents.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
That was all I mean, that's like, what is the
big deal about? Like, I get it, I fucking get it.
A lot of it is Western culture and Christianity. And
if we go far enough back, everything everything goes back
to Christianity, everything goes back to colonization. Be a good Protestant,
(37:25):
be a good Catholic. You know you know what else
is considered just real quick before we end. And men
and boys get this all the time camouflage. They get
mistectomies for what gina komastia because camastia is when men
(37:50):
develop breast tissue. Oh it's actually it's I'm not adult.
Let me let me google this. How how common it is?
Ands Up to seventy percent of males in early to
mid puberty do experience it because of normal hormone fluctuations
during puberty. Obviously, these go you know, if it makes
(38:14):
you uncomfortable, which I can see why right as a boy,
children are cruel citiously, but yeah, those meds. Additionally, up
to sixty five percent of adult men, especially between fifteen
and eighty, can also be affected by guidocomastia, and if
it's prominent enough, they will undergo amystectomy to take away
(38:37):
that extra tissue.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
As gender affirming care as.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Gender affirming care, and guess what, if we take away
gender affirming care for trans people, we will also take
it away from cisgender people because guess what, that doctor
is not going to feel comfortable, even if they know
they even if they're the cool doctor, when their license
(39:01):
is at risk, they're going to take less risk. So
when you criminalize health care, you're going to take it
away from everyone.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
You are just punching down the line. At that point,
you are swinging for that low hanging fruit. The trans
individuals in our community that are already experiencing such just
ridiculous amounts of violence every single day just for being themselves,
and you are punching down the line. You are saying
(39:31):
to everybody, Hey, they can't have it, and neither can you.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Ask just so we're clear before we go, before I
have my last little line at the end of the day,
banding and defunding this vital health care is not about
protecting about protecting children. It is about control and about power.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
That's it. And you know at some point we'll go
into deeper dives about different things. But yeah, this definitely
went over our half an hour. But you know, these
are those things that we need to talk about because
trans kids die all the fucking time, and every single
time they get two steps forward, they get thrown three
(40:15):
steps back in this fucking country and this fucking world.
Because it's not just America. I'm gonna need people to
understand that, because go look.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
At the UK, highly stigmatized, and this is one look
at your shallow effort throwing a pebble into the pond
of unstigmatizing something as every day as everybody does it.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Everybody does it. Everybody you go to the gym to
get your muscles, bro, that's gender firming care.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Every time you flex in front of that mirror, gender
firming care.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Every time you get that tan, gender firming care, both
male and female exactly. Every time you look in the
mirror and you're like, ooh, these days make my butt
look big. Gender firming care, especially.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
When somebody else noticed.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
We love it, We love it. Oh. Honestly, if you're
a bad bitch, go in the bathroom. You don't even
have to be a bad bitch. You go into a
bathroom at a.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Bar, somebody is gonna let you know. You look phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Just take a second, I ask everybody, even if you
may not be one hundred percent comfortable or one hundred
percent knowledgeable with I won't to say the concept, but
I don't have really a better way of putting it.
Of transness in general, one learn, and it's not up
to trans people to teach you. Your free all the
(41:32):
public library is free too. Will take your behind over
there and go start learning a thing or two. Just
live and let.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Live literally because what other people are doing. How do
you have time to worry about that?
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Why why do you have time? Like even live and
let live live your life. Lift people up. Remember that
your trans friends, neighbors, relatives, or more important than Harry
Potter exactly, fuck Joe Ane.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
So as always remember that you're that bitch, will forever
be that bitch no matter how you present to this world,
period always, even when you have your hair thrown up
in that messy bun and look like death warmed over,
you are still a bad bitch because bad bitch comes
from the inside. That's right, I'm gonna drink your water.
(42:26):
We said that already. I don't remember what the.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
And have a great night, Have a great night.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
You know what. Clink clink, clink, good night.
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