September 15, 2025 • 67 mins
In this lively episode of That 90s Premier League Podcast, Jonesy and Woody dive into the world of 90s football looking at the strikers — from the cult heroes to the unforgettable flops.
Expect plenty of nostalgic debates, iconic moments, and hilarious memories from the golden era of Premier League football.
And of course, we ask the all-important question: Do you remember Joe-Max Moore?
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(00:12):
Hello and welcome to that 90s Premier League podcast.
Another turbo sized edition. Woody, how are you mate?
Very well, mate. 25, beautiful number.
How are you doing? Yeah.
Good, good. How about yourself?
Very well, thanks. Very well.
Football's back on the telly, soWoody's a happy man.
(00:33):
Excellent. Excellent you watch much this
weekend so far. Just Bundesliga mate, just to.
Yeah, dirty word on a Premier League podcast.
Mate, that's. Some, however, though you're,
you're, you're enjoying the football, aren't you at the
moment. Oh, absolutely.
Yeah. Yeah, that seems to be my thing.
Don't do a good time, that's why.
(00:54):
Yeah. Sorry for me, yeah, bit of
Bundesliga, but yeah, cool, let's get into it.
So what's today mate? What are we talking about?
Well, I think you came up with this title mate, didn't you?
Because it's strikers and stinkers, which I love by the
way, because I think we've what we've done.
Midfield maestros. Yeah, of course.
(01:15):
We've done a tiny little dabble on goalkeepers with Al Shore,
but we haven't gone into a lot of goalkeepers yet, so that's
still to come. Yeah, Yeah.
But would you say strikers, do they make the Premier League?
I mean, it's, it's goals, isn't it?
I mean, like, come on, we'll talk about goals.
(01:36):
Yeah, yeah, they do. And I, I think, you know, they
these these magazines and stuff come up with 100 greatest
players of all time. And strikers should be featuring
up there, not goalkeepers. No.
And do you know, we've said thisthough, haven't we?
We don't. You don't get a Christmas VHS
with like 100 best passes or like the 75 best through balls
(02:01):
of the Premier League in 1990. We did.
We did. Found the other week the save
save saves. Oh wow.
Save, save saves, yeah, but. There's no, there's no defence,
defence, defence, is there? No.
And it is all about goals. So I think, I think it's only
sort of, it's only right that wetalk about strikers today,
(02:22):
however. Absolutely.
Jonesy, what are you in charge of today, mate?
Yep. So we we decided to branch out
and focus on different things. So you've gone for the Premier
strikers, I've gone for the Premier stinkers.
Yeah, I've got the good bit. And, and just to put out that
(02:42):
it's just a name. I'm not discouraging people's
profession. I'm, you know, they're a lot
more technical gifted than I ever was.
It's just a name. All right, so.
Yeah, yeah. So yeah, it's going to be a good
episode. It's going to be a good one
though. That disclaimer out there early,
Jamesy, if he's teacher on my stinkers list, it's nothing
personal. That sounds a good.
That's fine. Yes, but it's good.
(03:05):
Yeah, it's a good one. It's a good one to do, as I
said, and it's going to be it's,it was a hard one to come come
up with. Like you said, you were
struggling. I was struggling, but I think
the listeners, they're going to have their own list as well,
aren't they? So which we'd love to hear from
as well. Well, we love a healthy debate,
don't we James? And I think that's the whole
(03:25):
point about this because becausethe 90s Premier League had so
much going on, we're not going to get it right every week.
We're not the oracles of this Premier League.
We are just voices for you guys listening or viewing, you know?
So if you feel a certain strikershould have been on top of the
list or shouldn't have made the list or reasons why, tell us.
(03:49):
We love it. Yes, shall I absolutely.
Give us your reason and I'll show you here Jonesy, this is my
prep. I've shown you this before
right? But this is a list of strikers
that were on my list already andI had to whittle that down to 5,
so it wasn't it. Tell me about your stinker
research. Was it long or was it easy?
(04:10):
No longer as well, but as I saidbefore, we we were recording as
well. We've already done a Foreign
Legion episode, so I tried not to kind of delve back into that.
That's in the archives, guys, ifyou want to listen to that one.
Foreign Legion 11. I like that episode as well.
Didn't you? Yeah, that was a great episode.
So yeah, I'm just kind of just kind of picked, yeah, it was
(04:34):
difficult, but it's just going off memories.
Like you think you sit back and go, who was shit?
I mean, who was, you know? Don't see, you seem nervous
today now that you've got the stinkers live on recording.
At first you try. Well, we didn't draw straws for
this one, did we? You took the stinkers straight
away. You said, look, I'm going to
adopt these guys. I'm the only reason who's dank.
(04:57):
I think because, yeah, I thoughtlike, you've got like you've got
a whole page there. But yeah, I thought, oh, the
premier strikers would be. Yeah, that's easy.
Stinkers. Oh, all right, I'll get that out
of the way. And then I was like, oh geez,
we're going to. But in terms of like strikers,
(05:17):
before we go into anything else,right, tell me what, what did a
striker in the 90s Premier League mean to you?
Were you a kind of kid to add strikers posters on the wall?
Were you always a striker when you were playing football in the
garages or in the playground? Or were you a bit more of a, you
know, switched on? I'm going to go a midfielder
(05:39):
here. I'm going to be John Barnes
McManaman, Jamie Redknapp. Yeah, always wanted to be the
Yeah, always wanted to be the striker.
Want to get? You want to get the glory, don't
you? Yeah, I think you're right.
I think like they're always the name, aren't they?
Like on the top, like the goalscorer is always the pin up,
you know, the the main person that they talk about.
(05:59):
So I suppose we we have to do a podcast based on these guys.
Very interested to see your listof annual explanations.
Yeah, well, before we go into itall, I will explain the reasons
why. But should we discuss what
garments we're wearing today, Dearest Jonesy?
Absolutely cool. You go first this time because I
(06:20):
rewatched last week's episode and I was chatting so much that
I didn't even go Jonesy, what are you wearing?
And the look of your little face.
You went. I'm wearing the Liverpool shoe
so that's why. That's why.
That's why I shared on Instagrammate.
I felt even worse watching that back again.
I was like, ah, I didn't even dohis.
(06:42):
Intro Don't worry, I'll do my bloody intro, OK?
Drumroll, what are you wearing? I am wearing, I won't go into
the player which influenced me this because he might be on my
list, but I'm wearing the Nottingham Forest 99 four to 96
home shirt. Who'd you think of this one,
mate? Yeah, that's the yeah.
(07:03):
It's a beautiful shirt, isn't it?
Because it's got heavy black detail.
And on this is it's, it's not on.
It's just over the arms, isn't it?
Just slightly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a beautiful shirt, the badge.
I love Nottingham Forests badge.I think it's a badge, yeah.
It should never, ever change. It's like Sheffield Wednesdays,
like just the outline, you know,Like you can kind of do that
(07:27):
with a felt pen in one swift motion.
Do you know what I mean? Like one kind of like attack
kind of. You have a tree in the the
river. Oh, it's brilliant.
It's a giant shield, isn't it? Look at that.
Yeah, I mean that for me there wasn't too much difference
between because this is what year did you say that was chat?
(07:47):
This was 94 to 96. And then the 96 to 97. 7 was
like the kind of you've got thatone.
Yeah, I've got that one. But yeah, the differences are
very minimal in my opinion. Yeah, and I'll tell you that.
Yeah, yeah. This one, I don't know, is this
one kind of like a the same typelike as Man City's way this?
(08:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The black and red striped one.
Yeah. But yeah, great shirt, classic
Umbro. Classic Umbro that tells that
screams Ian Wown. Ian Wyn.
Yeah, last joke. He is.
Yeah, you do. Because he was a Blackburn boy,
wasn't he? Yeah, after Forest went to yeah,
(08:32):
we, we, we talked about that. I think we talked about that one
in detail on the Foreign Legion episode we did.
I'll be referring back to everyone who has listened to
that go back to it. So I'm not repenting myself.
But yeah, good job mate, good choice.
Yeah, cool. So that's that's what we're
wearing. Are you joking, mate?
What are you wearing? Oh wow touché I am wearing the
(08:57):
Leeds United 90. We said 93 to 95 didn't we?
Home shirt for this one ASICS lovely number Thistle hotels.
The difference with this shirt is guys it has a very bright
thick blue collar and for you those of you that are watching
on YouTube you will see there isa stripe in the middle of the
(09:19):
shirt which is a yellow and blueband.
I like this shirt. It's very comfy, isn't it?
Very comfy. Yeah, Yeah, it's it's funny,
isn't it? How like when we get older, we
go for design as a kid and the look and then the player that
wore it and now we go for comfort.
(09:40):
As I said, yeah, yeah, some of the ones I try and.
They're like, oh, how brave. No, I'm.
Not worried now. Welcome to the 90s Premier
League podcast. It's a cracking 1, isn't it?
Yeah. Karen Mccallaston, Gary Kelly.
Yeah, all the Gary's. Yeah, the Gary, Gary, Gary.
Yeah, triple Gary and Carlton Palmer.
(10:01):
Oh, of course, yeah. When he left Chef for Wednesday
in the 9495 season, broke my heart.
But he wore this jet. Still love Carl.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what we're wearing, mate.
Yeah. Oh, excellent.
All right. Got a stat for us?
I'm ready. Before we start, I was going to
(10:24):
update the intro right, but I can't find that binder anywhere
online. You're going to have to send me
a photo mate. It's fine.
You can keep it at that. But yeah, it's a bit of a bright
1, isn't it? Yeah, OK, like it.
I'll send you a picture. Before we start, I keep sending
woody binders. I keep finding different binders
on eBay. The one you sent me though
(10:44):
recently, that does look very professional, that one.
Yeah, the learning pack. The learning, Yeah, it looks
like, I don't know if it's a referees.
No, you have to share it. But yeah, I just keep signing
the binders and I go, oh, here you go, you have a.
Collection, but that binder looks like if we ever, if we are
ever. This sounds so stupid me saying
(11:06):
this out loud. If we are ever fortunate enough
to have a Premier League player on our podcast, that is the
binder that I would have. I'd be like, well, thank you for
joining. Today's schedule will be Oh
yeah. And I'll be really formal, like
you won't see me the same. It's a cool one.
It's got little, little pockets where you put stuff in.
Did you see it? It's got like.
Yeah, it's got. It's a podcast.
(11:28):
Presenters dream Jonesy that fine day.
Yeah. All right, what have?
We got Sorry, I digress. Start of the week this week.
So the most consecutive seasons to score at least thirty goals
goes to the wonder Talisman AlanShearer.
OK, we will talk about him a bitmore in the podcast.
(11:49):
However, I wanted to just blow his trumpet a bit more this
week. OK, so in consecutive seasons,
he joined Blackburn in the season of 1992, but obviously he
had an ACL injury halfway through the season, which
obviously ruled him out for the rest of that that season.
So, but he still scored sixteen goals in 1992, which is
(12:15):
incredible, right signing from Southampton.
However, 1993 to 94 he scored 31goals, 94 to 95.
Obviously when Blackburn won thePremier League, he scored 34.
In 9596 he scored 31 again but Blackburn that season finished
(12:36):
7th. Now you if if your striker is
scoring 30 plus goals a season, you win in the league right?
You would think so, yeah. I mean, I know Kevin Phillips
did for Sunderland in the sort of 99, two thousands.
How on earth like that? Consistency is incredible for a
(12:59):
striker, isn't it? I mean.
That that Blackburn, obviously, you know, strike punish with
Chris Sutton. Chris Sutton said that he was
happy for Shearer to take all the glory and things like that
as well. Yeah, but even in that 9596, I
mean, Ray Harford kind of he kind of dropped Sutton for a
little bit and Mike Newell was up front with him.
(13:19):
But he's still got his 31 goals.Yeah, incredible.
And they, they valued Alan Shearer's transfer and today's
money. I mean it was, it was valued a
few years ago, but obviously it was against players like
Neymar's transfer etcetera and his move to Newcastle in this
day's money would have equivalated to 222 million.
(13:41):
Wow. Yeah, Mental.
Yeah, Because of his goal stats and the kind of the player that
he was at that time, Yeah, that's how much he would have
been worth. And do you know what?
That's an incredible kind of tribute to how good he was in
the Premier League. I'm so I'm so glad his record
(14:03):
still stands. I was always a bit nervous Harry
Kane was going to. Yeah, yeah, I would.
Yeah, it's probably going to be broken at some point, but I
think at the moment it needs to stay with Big Al.
Yes. That's my start of the week.
Excellent. Thank you.
Love that one. OK, so I was doing a bit of
(14:24):
digging around what's going on in the month of September.
So just a little bit of information I found 1993 due to
the month of September. No bias on this part though,
mate. There we go.
Let me bring up the start. No sweet September.
All right, So Liverpool. Oh.
In the month of September 1993, Liverpool lost through four
(14:45):
games in a row. Wowzers.
So I lost against Coventry City,one nil.
Do you know who scored that game?
Do you know who scored that goalfor Coventry?
And Levu. Phil Bap.
No. Yeah, obviously before his
transfer the previous season. They were completely fill kebab
(15:07):
at Highfield Rd. Oh dear, so that was at the 1st
of September. The 12th of September 1993
Liverpool lost home to Blackburn. 18th of September
they lost two nil to Everton away.
And. Yeah, and then the 25th of
September, they lost one nil against Chelsea away, but
looking for it, just looking, I thought that's terrible.
(15:29):
Yeah, you see, as soon as it didn't last very long, did he,
after that. But yeah, just a kind of a, as I
said, no sweet September in 1993for Liverpool.
That's unheard of now. Imagine that happening.
Yeah. I mean, I don't think there's
room for that now in today's dayand Asia Premier League.
Is there really? No, I didn't know it was that
(15:50):
bad, mate. But thank you for airing your
dirty laundry on on air. So that's much approved.
Because that's what I saw in AI was going through some shoot
magazines for September and a few people were writing into the
Jimmy Graves and the kind of airing their grievances.
With their dirty of football. Yeah, Jimmy Graves tell you what
some of the stuff on there is like, it's mind blowing.
(16:12):
Like the the things people writein, you know, people complaining
about Coca-Cola Cup haven't replays, you know, oh, it's
taken the toll and players scrapthe scrap the second legs,
things like that back then. Nutrition though wasn't there in
the 90s though so having all of these replays in the week like
the players must have been knackered.
(16:32):
Yeah, it's funny how some obviously someone who supports a
Premier League team are going, you know, doesn't benefit, only
benefits the lower league teams financially and you're just
like. Oh.
God, yeah, I won't go through it.
That's Jimmy Graves. If you ever have shoot magazines
from 93, there's some good columns in there.
Yeah, there we go. Cool.
Do you want to get on to premierstrikers and premier stinkers?
(16:57):
So like everything else Woody I've done, I've done stick a
beautiful. Edit.
There you go. So I don't know if you notice
the people who are going to be watching on Spotify and YouTube.
So Woody on his sticker book hasgot a nice gold shiny badge
going to mine. Oh.
Got a knife, Rustic One that's fallen in the bin somewhere for
(17:20):
the stinkers, all right. A bit of a rustic.
Well, this to to me, from what Ican see right now, looks like
it's clouded by some sort of stench.
Is that the But it's the booty. Oh, by the way.
Yep, good, all done I. Was going to say that looks like
Zola in the back, doesn't it? Yeah, I was looking for a kind
of a sticker book colour, what can I do?
(17:41):
And I was looking for a green number.
I was like Sabiri. I had a good cover, I could call
it. Possibly buy Yeah.
All right, cool. Excellent.
All right, so let's start with your premier strikers #5 yeah,
what's going on? Right, so I'm going to give you
a little bit of a background guys, into why I'm choosing why,
(18:02):
who I'm choosing. I've not just gone for goals.
I've not just gone for the top of like people's lists on online
or in the record books, etcetera.
I have gone for my top five strikers.
That one I've given their all for all of their clubs they've
played for. They would good honest, decent
(18:25):
strikers, good performances, consistency, strong but also
gave us good memories in the Premier League.
So to start this off in at #5 isLes Ferdinand.
So Les Ferdinand made 349 Premier League appearances
scoring 149 goals within the 9 easy played for QPR, Spurs and
(18:49):
Newcastle. So I I would say Les Ferdinand
is close to being a complete striker.
Jonesy I don't know what you think.
I mean, he was great in the air,strong up top, held the ball up
well, but a powerful Thunderboltof a strike.
He seemed to, he seemed to, I don't know, he seemed to kind of
(19:11):
float in the air for ages, didn't he?
Yeah. I just think his kind of, most
of his photos that I've seen of him in action is him kind of
like shoulder, the hands on the defender's shoulders and about 8
feet above them, kind of like going with his head.
I just, I just liked him as a striker.
I just thought he was very kind of like he always delivered.
(19:32):
If you had Les Ferdinand up front, he was kind of like,
yeah, he'll do a job today. I know he's.
Always right? Yeah.
Yeah, he'll get a penalty or he'll cause mischief.
He must have been a nightmare for defenders.
But just looking at I don't knowif you can see that sticker.
Have you seen how it's tiny? The CFSCS?
Sponsor, yeah. So it looks like someone's, I
(19:53):
don't know what they've done, what they've done, sticky taped
it on. That might be probably like
between sponsors or something and they've got classic, classic
melon. Oh, yeah, yeah, might be, might
be, yeah, because that's quite abig sponsor.
Yeah, but no, that's, that's great.
I mean, this is your sticker book, mate.
(20:15):
You know, you've got a nice shiny one.
I've got the tatty old sticker book, but that's all right.
I don't care though for this. He only played 17 times for
England, scoring five goals. We've, we've just been, I think,
I think we've talked about that before it happened.
Well, it just doesn't make sense.
It doesn't make sense. You know, I just, I don't get
it. But yeah, Les Ferdinand,
(20:36):
memories of him, brilliant. Yeah, I loved him at Newcastle
as well. Excellent.
Let me get on to my first time. All right #5 I've got John Darl
Tomlinson. Why?
Why? Yeah.
John Dale Tomlinson so so he's he I'll go through the Newcastle
(20:57):
stuff. So he's considered a flop
because he only scored four goals and 35 appearances during
the single season during during 9798.
So struggling to adapt to the Premier League after a 2.5
million transfer from apparent being so I mean, I've talked
about it before that preseason friend, preseason friend.
I think against Celtic, he was in a tournament.
He was great. But yeah, apparently just, yeah,
(21:22):
he was expected to be a prolificgoal scorer, but he just, yeah,
he struggled. So he just found the physical
demands of the Premier League challenging, couldn't adjust to
the high expectations of a team that had lost key attackers like
David Ginola and Les Ferdinand. Oh, so wow, how this has worked
out, Jonesy. So super Les has been replaced
by John Dahl. Yeah.
Yeah. All right.
(21:43):
OK. So he's this.
Season they brought about 50 in in the summer as well.
He was wasn't. He I think, yeah.
So I think Kenny was here, wasn't he?
So he was signed as a link up player.
So he's like, he's signed as a link up player with Alan
Shearer. And he was moved to the striker
position after Shearer's injury and the transfer of Ferdinand,
(22:03):
but he just kind of lacked the necessary physical strength.
So there you go. Front then if he weren't scoring
and Shearer was injured, was it Tito?
Was it that weird season when John Beresford was the top
scorer? You remember that?
Is that true? Oh dear.
(22:26):
Let. Me have a look.
Wasn't the top scorer he was scoring, wasn't he?
I mean, I'm basing this on John Dal Thomason being good for
Denmark because I liked watchinghim for Denmark in like the
World Cups, etcetera. But yeah, it's a shame, isn't
it, sometimes that when you get a striker that you've got high
hoped for that's performed in other leagues and then comes to
(22:48):
the Premier League and is literally like poop, it is
disheartening, isn't it? I think, I mean, I think even
think, I think that's going thatseason, John Beresford was
scoring some, but I think he wasa top scorer.
But John Barnes I think was, washe that top scorer was six or
seven or something. It was a terrible season.
Yeah. Good.
Great kit though. But yeah, John Dale Thomas and
(23:10):
he, he did well after that. I think he went to AC Milan into
final AC Malone. You did well at AC Malone.
Yeah, yeah. Former Blackburn Roaders manager
as well. Yeah, lots of promise for John
Dell, but just. Yeah, just didn't deliver.
All right, your next one. So let me spray some air
(23:31):
freshener on this after having such a stinker of John Dell
Thompson. Who have I got in there before
Jamesy? Teddy, Teddy, Teddy, Teddy Teddy
sharing I was I was struggling to pick which picture because
the season after the the wind swoops his hair very nicely.
Yeah, 95 one, but I thought I'd go the 9394 sticker.
(23:54):
He's puffed his chest out in this one, hasn't he as well?
I mean, he's either holding something in or there was a the
main female photographer. Oh yeah.
That's like Ricky Gervais in like David Brent will change his
shirt, like, Oh yeah, you're right.
Yeah, So when have you got Teddy?
Wow. Again, I just, I just think
(24:17):
Teddy Sheringham is like the pinnacle 9 E striker for me. 417
Premier League appearances, 146 goals, 70 assists.
I've I because I base my experience of watching Teddy
Sharingham on EUR 96, right? He was, he was the perfect
(24:40):
partner of a striker, in my opinion.
To Andy Cole, to Alan Shearer for England.
Yeah, yeah, you know, Klinsmann.So he's got 70 assists through
his Premier League career. Wow.
He's obviously played at Forest,Spurs and Manchester United
(25:00):
during the 90s. Obviously I.
Hated him at Man United. Did you?
Yeah, I like. Him.
Yeah, I agree. I didn't like him at Man United,
but now I look back at him at Man United and I appreciate his
genius. Yeah, obviously he's synonymous
for his performance against Bayern Munich at the new camp in
(25:23):
the Champions League final. I I liked Teddy sharing him.
No, because I liked the fact that he left Bang United to go
back to Spurs. I just like it when players left
United as a kid, yeah, I felt they were so greedy buying all
the best players. I liked it when players left.
I mean, that's really childish. I mean his longevity as well.
(25:44):
What, was he 36 when he finishedEngland or something?
Yeah, I mean the an incredible international career.
Because that's what I say though.
Like he wasn't put there for hiskind of goal scoring because
you're a 96. I always remember his pass to
Alan Shearer against Holland. Well yet.
Thrashed Holland for one. And it was that kind of like
(26:06):
open his body out, pass it and then Shearer just like drills it
into the top corner. I just think he always had a
great weight of a pass. He was always really clever.
He was just very switched on as a professional footballer and I
think he just he was. I think the.
Bodied it well. The perfect second striker.
(26:27):
Yeah, very much like who can I, who can I associate him to now?
Like a Giroud, Olivier Giroux. Yeah, yeah.
You know, get the ball down, hold it up like an either good
Johnson used to do for Chelsea with Hasselbank.
You know, you always needed thatsecond, second striker.
So yeah, Tony Sheringham, take abook all.
(26:49):
Right, all right, let's go buds with my sticker book, my second
one. Something stinks around here,
Jones. It's #4 for you.
What you with him? Look at that sticker.
Remember Ibrahim, back of your car?
Wow, is he leaning there? Jonesy the Merlin's Dicker.
New signing? Yeah.
Do you remember? Hey.
(27:11):
Yeah. Ibrahima in the building.
Ibrahima OK Yoko So he's considered a flop during his
time. Everton he failed to live up to
his high expectations, I think. Not for his difference though.
No, I think they paid, yeah, they paid 4.5 million for him in
1998 and it was considerable wowsurrounding his potential and he
just didn't deliver. I mean, you look at on YouTube,
(27:32):
he scored a cracking goal against Bristol City in in the
FA Cup or Coca-Cola Cup, a free kick.
But I remember the hype when they signed it and it was just
wasn't there. This is the sort of time that he
was playing with like Matt Razziand Slavan Village in that kit,
right? Joe Max Moore.
Who was he? One Who?
(27:53):
Joe Max. I've never heard that name.
Have you just created like a MaxPower?
Kind of like Homer Simpson name Joe Max Moore.
Joe Max Moore right 19 oh 1999 They signed him November 11th.
(28:14):
Here we go, we're Segway. Joe Max Moore signed with
Everton after he impressed Everton staff on the seven day
tryout. Here you go.
From from where? Jonesy.
I've never heard of this guy's name.
No Joe Max more. Jeez.
I mean, he could. Be stop, stop saying Joe Max.
More like she was what? Do you mean he did?
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He was elected into the USA National Soccer Hall of Fame in
2013. So he signed him from New
England Revolution. Wow, is he #3 for you?
No, no, in Brahima, Becky. OK.
We've just segued. It's just you've mentioned the
world's most random footballer to was he partners to Becky
(28:56):
hookup from Foreverton? Think they were around the same
time, weren't they 90? 9 because I I remember Danny
Kadamatri in that kit. Yeah.
Duncan Ferguson, obviously. Yeah, I saw.
So I segue in from that as well.Sorry.
So Ibrahima Bakayoko was a if you play Championship manager
around that sign. I found this from 90s, but there
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we go. So Ibrahima Bakayoko,
Championship manager, fans lovedhim, Everton's fans didn't.
So he was one of those mate. He had a 20 for Influence, 18
for Pace. He was like, yeah, he was a
cracking. I remember signing 18 for
shooting. What was his prices?
Tag. I can't.
Remember that we said he was at Montpellier before Everton?
(29:41):
OK. So yeah, he was.
I always remember signing him. Yeah, sorry.
I can imagine you Jonesy for Championship Manager by the way,
mate, you're literally going to log in and like when you start a
new season you go straight to the search bar and type in
Ibrahima Bakayoko just for the snap.
You buy him straight away. Yeah, he was.
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So he played 23 games, scored four goals, and he was moved on.
Yeah. So what?
Shame. Yeah.
There you go. Him.
Brahima. Back here.
OK. Like the photo?
Joe Max Moore. Yeah, come on.
If anyone right, someone needs to help me out here.
If any of you listeners or viewers want to want to tell me
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you knew who Joe Max Moore is, Imean we.
Can do we can do a forgotten episode?
I've forgotten Players episode one time.
I knew, I knew Maxwell House. That was a coffee.
I'll share where I'll do the edit.
I'll share a photo of Joe Max. Moore Yeah, you're going to
laugh. I'm going to.
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Yeah. There you go.
All right, let's get on to your next one.
OK, back to Woody's sticker book.
So you're #3 whoever we got Ian,right, Right, right.
No. Introduction.
Yes, we all know about. Yeah, the main man.
Good old Uncle Ian. What can I say about Ian Wright
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that not many people already know?
I mean, it's just a character, first of all.
And I say character in the best sense.
I mean, as in he was funny, likepassionate for Arsenal
celebrations. I love these celebrations.
Yeah, like I'm going to say shithouse because at times like
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when he used to wind up the Tottenham fans or Man United,
like his tackle on Peter Schmeichel at High I.
Was going to say he had a bit ofyeah, a bit of.
A, you know, he had a real ruthless streak to him.
And if I'm honest, a good striker needs to get under
people's skin. You know, like Jamie Vardy did,
you know, all that kind of bickering, the wind up, you
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know, the kind of just riling updefenders and stuff like that.
He had a character to him and a bit of Pzazz. 213 Premier League
appearances, 113 Premier League goals, 33 caps for England with
nine goals in return. If they didn't have Thierry
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Henry, he'd be Arsenal's greatest ever.
Oh, oh, hang on. Would he not shoot too soon?
Hold up, hold up. Yeah, that.
Yeah, I'm not going to say it. Would he zip it?
Ian Wright is just a brilliant striker.
Farth, his chipper Ellen Rd was glorious.
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Yeah. Just the fact that he was just,
he tucked in his collar, you know, he just had a bit of
something about him that people loved.
Yeah, and I think we seem to have fun, didn't he on the
pitch? He had a smile in his face at
home. Spot on, mate.
Actually, he looked like he was enjoying himself when he played
and he was playing for that kindof fun and that resonated, I
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think, in his performances. So, yeah, yeah, right.
Yeah, excellent. Good call.
OK. Oh dear.
I. Don't.
Know why? Kind of regretting now I miss
Sean Dundee. Yeah, I remember Sean.
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Dundee All right, so Sean Dundeewas considered a Liverpool flop
because his £2,000,000 transfer in 1998 was a miserable failure
resulting in a mere 5 appearances, no goals and and
less than an hour of playing time before his return to
Germany. So he was brought in as to cover
and injured Robbie Fowler, but fate failed to impress and was
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sold. Former Roy Former Liverpool
manager Roy Evans called him terrible and one of his most
regrettable signings. Wow.
Yeah, so happy to have that tag.So he only made five substitute
appearances in total, never starring the game.
So Dundee admitted himself he wasn't fit enough upon his
arrival and that his focus on gym work slowed him down instead
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of improving his. Football.
Where'd he come from? Kalzru in Germany.
OK, but he was and he was Australian, right?
He was South African. South Africa.
Yeah, so he was promising striker.
Yeah, so he was. He was doing well in Germany.
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For some reason when I hear youraccent say Dundee, I immediately
go into Australia. Mick Dundee.
Yeah, Crocodile, Sean. So Dundee's Liverpool spell
ended with him failing to score in 56 minutes on the pitch.
So we sell to Stuttgart for 1,000,000.
Wow. Yeah, so he, he's, as I said
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before, he's he's frequently features on Liverpool's worst
signings of all time list. And while initially blaming the
managers, now he acknowledges his own mistakes, such as a lack
of work ethic. Oh I feel a little bit sad for
this one mate, having read he was a kind of comment from Roy
Evans as well and this saying. That I mean.
Admitting it as well. He was like, I don't know if he
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was like there as a wonder kid. I think I've shown this before
when he was, you know, he had his own in Germany.
He had his own video game, Sean Dundee's World Cup football.
Have you just made this up? No, no, no.
So she had. A computer game.
So yeah, so Sean Dundee had his name attached to a 1997 video
game called Sean Dundee's World Cup Football.
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The game was sorry. It's a German repackage of Puma
World Football 98. That's not even a Carl's Reuer
share either, is it? No, it's got uni.
It's like Ubisoft Productions onthere.
Wow. They've like just, they've gone
full like deep Norwich City there.
Deep footballer simulation. Oh God.
(35:56):
There you go. If anyone's ever played that
game, let me know. Yeah, please.
But yeah, as I said, he he's oneI've seen before.
A feature on Liverpool's worst sightings.
Are you noticing A distinct correlation between this and the
Foreign Legion? Now what?
Do you mean? Well, like a lot of these
players that come in from the Premier League, foreign legion
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wise, the international players didn't take to the Premier
League straight away, did they? No.
I mean, so far three of my top five have been England strikers
in the Premier League in the 90s.
Yeah, yeah. It's very difficult for an
international striker to take charge straight away, isn't it?
Yeah, they have to be very special, don't they?
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Yeah. All right, cool.
So we're going to go on to your number 2. #2.
Is drum roll Mr Alan Shearer? Now I wonder how many listeners
have spat out their coffee at this point thinking that he
should be #1 hey. Did I choose my?
He was my #1. Was he?
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Yeah, my original list. Yeah, he was on there.
I want to know in a minute what your your top five is.
May I see if you've got it right?
441 Premier League appearances. Wowza Rooney. 260 Premier League
goals 112 goals in 138 appearances for Blackburn alone.
(37:28):
Come on, like I don't need to say much more about Alan
Shearer. We've obviously mentioned him in
the start of the week. Oh I just like those 4 strikers
I've I've just put there I'd quite happily finish with.
I just think they are incredibleEnglish Premier League heritage
(37:52):
strikers. Yes, I agree.
Like I just they they add everything though strikers.
Comparing for. I mean, we've done it before.
Comparing then to now with English strikers, it's I don't
even. Daylight unbelievable.
Like I just like these aren't I mean, other than Teddy sharing
(38:13):
them. These aren't necessarily tall
strikers. They're not necessarily well
built, strong strikers. Every single one of those
strikers there so far would muscle off a defender.
They've got a great aerial presence, they're fast and
they're good at finishing. That's all you need.
Absolutely. Back to Jonesy and his whiffers.
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Who have you got, mate? Yeah, this.
Is whiffers all right? We all know my #2 I'm wearing
the shirt. That's Ingress.
Solinsky. Just because he was.
He was the first Italian to playin the Premier League.
Come on. Yeah.
You think, you know, there's Saturdays and Sundays when we
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used to watch Football Italia. It was a different world back
then. Football Italia, How, how much
did you put that on? This is this is class.
Yeah, incredible. Yeah, just yeah.
The movie colours, Channel 4 logo, the ball bouncing off it.
It was like a Super League, wasn't it?
Because of the players they had back then, you thought any
player that come across would bean instant hit, but it just
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didn't happen. So he's considered a flop after
his unsuccessful spell. So yeah, as I said, he was the
first Italian spy in the PremierLeague, £1.8 million signing
from Torino, but failed to scorein 12 league appearances Forest
and after a loan spell was sent packing back to Syria and never
returned to Forest. Whenever I see so, oh, just off
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the back of this, if I see a striker performing in Syria,
right, And I say I'd love to watch him in the Premier League,
Transfer deadline day comes, he signs he's at your club, right?
I want him to start from day one.
But nowadays that doesn't happen, does it?
And the reason is the manager then goes, he's not match ready,
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he's not match fit. Hang on a minute.
He's played in the Italian league.
He should be ready for the Premier League.
But I'm saying that as a fan. But Can you imagine being in
Andrea Selenzi's shoes here, right?
Who did he play for before Forest?
Sorry, Torino. Torino so in the 9394 season he
finished with seventeen goals, so he was in the top scorers
list. So you would automatically
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assume to just go straight into the Premier League guns blazing.
But it must be so hard for a striker to like get straight in,
to be a successful striker and from another country and to go
straight into the Premier League.
Because I wouldn't have said that the time he signed for
Nottingham Forest. I don't think the Premier League
was at its peak then. It wasn't like the.
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Last five 9596, so yeah, so for Torino, so he spear attacked the
spearheaded the attacking trio of Enzo Franziguoli and a young
Bonito Carboni. So they were the main man at
Torino. So his impressive form gave him
got him a call up to the Italy national team in 1994.
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So he got a call up to Italy. So Wednesday signed Carboni that
season. Yeah. 9596 So we So the Premier
League pretty much drained Torino then.
I think so. So he's looking back on it.
Yeah. So.
So some sources suggest he was wrongly positioned as a
replacement for Stan Collymore and that burden of the pressure
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and also of being in the Italian, the first Italian in
the league. So I put a bit of pressure on
him as well. I.
Can't imagine how hard that musthave been though to like fill
someone's shoes and go right. You need to score now.
Yeah, yeah, come on mate. But I remember his poster in
Shooter Match magazine, a bit like that stick of his big head.
And you're like, oh, look at that hairstyle.
And you're like, oh, this guy's going to be good.
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It's like unveiling like a handsome Italian man in amongst
the English public. He's like, no, he's got to be a
good striker. Look at his hair like Genola.
And then like, it's like, oh, get rid of him.
Send him back in. He's not good enough.
Yeah. So looking at this so his style
of play, so since he was a tall old fashioned centre forward,
you wouldn't think it would you?You good?
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Shame. More shame?
No. Shame.
There you go. All right, let's get back to
your sticker book. Drum roll, there we go #1.
The Iceman. Dirty Den.
Dennis Bergkamp. I can't tell you how much I love
(42:39):
this man. I just think he changed football
for me. Yeah, other than Chris Waddow,
he's up there with one of my icons of football as a kid.
I just think his brain, his prowess, his intelligence on the
ball, he was incredible. Didn't have the start that
Arsenal fans wanted, but by God did he catch up.
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Like if I'm talking about DennisBergkamp in the 90s, not only
did he score some of the greatest goals I've ever seen,
he's probably given me the best memories of 90s goals.
I mean, his goal against Argentina in France 98 was,
which still gives me goosebumps.Now off.
Yeah, His hat trick at Philbert St for Arsenal against
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Leicester. Incredible.
His goal at Roker Park against Sunderland, where he turns
around and covers his mouth because he doesn't really
realise. I mean, if you look at Steven
Hughes and Paul Merson, when they go up to celebrate with
him, they're like, what the hellhas this man just done?
Because if you want to win Woody's heart, you've got to
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curl it and get it caught in thestanchion.
Yeah, like any goals scored likethat in the Premier League just
just makes me tingle, right? And so, and yeah, no, kind of,
yeah. It's just, I just remember when
they signed him and it just didn't, it didn't start out
well. The Firm did it.
You know, he was considered a flop even in Italy as well, I
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don't think. I mean he won the UEFA Cup and
stuff but it wasn't considered. Well, so a.
Success was he. No 52 appearances for Inter
Milan. Only eleven goals, I mean.
See, that's what it it didn't take.
He didn't take to Syria, did he?Scored twice against Norwich
though. Didn't he gas?
Didn't he gas? Did he guess?
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7.5 million so yeah, he come with a heavy price tag yeah.
Bruce Riock. So that's Bruce Riock's little
gift. We did mention this in the
Foreign Legion. Obviously he scored his first
goal against Southampton in September of that season.
So 7.5 million price tag asked. The fans are like, come on, Dan.
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Dirty Dan. Get a goal.
He scored a great goal at Highbury and then he just took
off from there. 315 appearances,87 Premier League goals.
How many assists do you reckon Dennis Berkham had in the
Premier League? I I do it, I wouldn't know where
to start. Surprise me going. 96.
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Wow. So he's just, he's everything to
me. I don't want to cry live on air,
Jonesy. So I just, I want to tell you
how beautiful this man is. He's just an effortlessly
glorious footballer. And I would probably put him up
there in some of the do you knowwhat, right.
(45:35):
I'm closing my binder. Oh, I'm going to say Dennis
Bergkamp is probably the great one of the greatest footballers
of all time. I'd agree with that.
He's going to be up there. I have to.
I just enjoyed watching him so much.
How is he in? We saw, I think I shared the
other day and I they, I don't even know where it is now.
(45:58):
The 100 greatest Premier League players Where does he come in
those kind of lists? He's up there in the top 10,
isn't he? But I just don't think he's kind
of appreciated enough. I know, I know.
He is amongst Arsenal fans and Dutch fans.
It's just no, this is bullshit. Let's go back to this, Woody.
Sorry. We're going to pick the fullest
out, all right? Nah, Nah, because it's rubbish,
(46:19):
right? Go on all.
Right, so 4/4 twos hundred Premier League players of all
time. Where do you reckon he comes?
Where does he come? If he's not in the top ten,
that's disgraceful. Right.
This is where I call out a bullshit list, right?
And I don't know who made this list.
Could be controversial, right? So Dennis Bergkamp came 23rd.
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Do you know who was higher than him?
Oh, don't offend me mate. Rio Ferdinand.
Are you kidding me? No, this is where I'm saying
this is bullshit. This right.
And then they shouldn't if you're going to have a list,
right? Separate them because I don't
know how goalkeepers can be higher than strikers, because it
doesn't. No, actually Kohl's been put in
higher than Burkham. Wow, wow, wow, wow.
(47:04):
Yeah, all right, sorry for the rant, but yeah, stuff like that.
No, that's, that's no, that's correct, mate.
I mean, you, you needed to do that.
Get off your chest. I mean, obviously you should be
there mate. Yeah, no, because it's just
whoever comes up with these lists.
Yeah, that's ridiculous. Shame on.
Me. Call me old fashioned, but why
is Steve Bruce at 99? Come on mate, you should be
higher than that. Steve Bruce at 99 again, a brick
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wall of a defender. Look at his nose.
Come on. He put his nose on the line.
99th. I could go through this list all
day, right? Joe Hart, 73 less 3rd and 76.
Wow, Jonesy, you, you need you need to cut an onion of a
whiffer for your next one to distract me from that absolute
(47:49):
blasphemy. Yeah, no, this is as I said.
Oh, this isn't on? I feel like I felt like taking
my headphones off right now. You have.
Ruined my day with that list. Because it's just like, you
know, Gary Neville, 48. How's Yeah.
Gary Neville. Yeah.
No, we can't. Go on.
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Appearances Jen Francozola 51, Ian Wright 50.
Wow, wow, wow, wow. Don't tell me Carlos Tevez is in
the top 10. Didn't seem to be honest.
Is he there? No, I don't think so.
Brett Friedel, 65. Yeah, 66.
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Give me the top 10. Right, we'll start from #10
Frank Lampard. OK. #9 Roy Keane, Harry Kane #7
Eric Canson are #6. Of all time.
Yeah, 100 players, Top 100 Premier League players of all
time. All right #7 about Kevin de
Bruyner. Sorry, Karen.
(48:54):
Yeah. So #7 Eric Cantona #6, Kevin de
bourneau #5, Mohamed IK Salah #4, Alan Shearer #3 Wayne Rooney
#2 Cristiano Ronaldo #1 Tiara Reid.
It's Tara Reid. I can see.
Yeah, yeah. I don't think we saw the best of
Cristiano Ronaldo. I was going to say that his best
years were at Madrid, weren't they?
Yeah, I think they just wow. How would they put this list
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together? I don't know.
Interesting. You probably need to cover this
off. Oh mate, it's an angry episode.
Simmering. I'm simmering right now.
Move. Kyle Walker, 45 Come on, I'm
just going to. I am like a hot saucepan of new
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potatoes right now, Jonesy. I'm a boiling point.
All right, move on. All right, OK.
All right. It's my last one, isn't it?
Yeah, it is. All right, so people are going
to be going. This is a strange one.
OK, it's a strange one. I'll explain why.
All right, so straight. It's the first one.
Recognise him, Stefan Givarch. Remember him?
(49:59):
Yeah, Givarch, Yeah. Yeah, so everyone's go, why, why
have you put Stefan givage #1 I'll tell you.
Right, so. So Newcastle signed him in 1998,
so he's considered a flop because he only lasted four
games and scoring one goal. The reason I put him in there
because he played in the World Cup final against Brazil.
He was their leading. Striker.
(50:19):
Yeah, so This is why I was saying so Newcastle boredom
after the on the back of the World Cup ninety 1998.
So he's a World Cup. Yep.
So he won the World Cup. There you go.
But he was just trash. He was, you know, four games.
He only got lasted he got bootedout the same season as well.
I think he's good on his debut against the Liverpool, but he's
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even been labelled the worst ever Premier League forward.
Really. Yeah.
I mean, scoring on your debut isgreat, but if you don't back it
up with consistency, you've forgotten, aren't you?
He was just, as I said, yeah, I think he played in every game at
the World Cup. He was that number 9.
Yeah, I remember the name. I just, I don't remember him
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playing for Newcastle. So it could be, yeah.
So I think he was signed by Uncle Kenny Douglasch, but
obviously he Lambda came in. So that could have helped us.
You know, he could have short lived his career as well.
But yeah, when you appeared in four games and just yeah.
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Would you say this is a dark time for Newcastle this season?
Because I know, I know, they made an FA Cup final and they
were in the Champions League. But.
It was a differentable transition and wasn't it from?
Kagan. Dalglish.
Then it was just like a fire sale, the Dalglish, you know,
getting rid of Genoa Herdinand and just signing, obviously, Ian
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Rush, John Barnes. Is this the same season as John
Dal Thomason as well because it's the same kit or was this
the year after or year before? So I think.
John Dal Thomason was 9798, thisis 98 after World Cup, but then
he went to Rangers, I think won the travel, so it can't be that
bad for him. Well, Givash went to Rangers.
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Yeah. Wow, OK doesn't it goes to Joe
isn't it? Premier League game for
everyone, boy. Even even Rangers, it was only
what, 14 games? Wow.
Yeah, he didn't. He won the Scottish League, he
won the league and he won the League Cup, OK, all all in the
same season as well. So he started at Newcastle,
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ended up at Rangers with a League Championship league medal
and then went back to Oxy. So he's quite prolific in
France, I think. Yeah, he won the Golden Boot
after, yeah. So I don't know.
Wow, wasn't so there you go. So does it show you?
Goes to show you could win the World Cup and still be a
stinker. Yeah, no, I agree mate, you go.
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OK, have you got a? So let's go back to your one
now. OK, so your list.
There you go. Yeah.
Did you want to see mine? Yeah, go on.
All right, I deleted it. So I've been off memory now.
Sorry. I'm pretty sure, I think #5 I
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had Andy Cole. Andy Cole was in my he was
actually in my top five. I took him out again.
Would I say he's an underrated Premier League striker?
No, I think he was very much appreciated, wasn't he?
I mean 34 goals in 40 matches for Newcastle though.
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I think that's where I'm basing.It on just in 93.
Yeah. Wow, yeah.
Yeah, so I've gone. Yeah.
So #5 I think when Andy Cole #4 I think I went Les Ferdinand.
Well done. Yeah #3 I think I put Ian right
as well #2 the man behind me, Robbie Fowler.
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What's going on mate? I do, you know, I just for some
reason he is very, he was a great striker, A poacher.
I just don't think he embodied the the classic Premier League
striker in my opinion. Yeah.
I just think he had too much of an attitude.
He wasn't like a get your head down, be a model professional
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like these guys like Les and Ted, but let's Ted and Allen,
you know? Ted and Allen, so he was my
number 2 and #1 was Alan Shearer.
I don't know, but for me, as I said, I mean Dennis Bergkamp's
your only foreign striker there.But what I think of strikers in
the 90s, I think of English strikers, which is complete
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opposite to modern day Premier League now.
Reel off some strikers Jonesy whilst you're there mate, some
Premier League strikers to your memory.
So this is your kind of this is your life read book.
Tell me some strikers you think.Well, we had a chat before we
heard about Michael Owen. Is he there?
Does he get? Does he get there much?
(55:06):
He's not very well loved, is he?No, I just, I don't think he
kicked off, but he did. I'm sorry, that's stupid.
He did kick off. Yeah, he's but.
I always think of him as a late late 90s but then you look at it
and it's like his first proper season. 979836 games, Premier
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League, eighteen goals. He was the Golden Boot.
Same at the next season as well.With Dionne Dublin.
Yeah, Chris Sutton I think as well.
Chris Sutton's another one as well.
Yeah, Chris Sutton was on my list.
Yeah, Dwight York, I. Think Dwight York.
Yeah, do. You think his bill of days gets
overlooked? Yeah.
(55:51):
I didn't realise he was a villa for so long as well.
Like, yeah. That's what's forgotten in my
opinion. Yeah, I've got Dean Saunders
date. Dean Saunders I I put down as a
a classic Premier League strikerfor Aston Villa.
Yeah. I've got David Hurst and I think
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he's and again, he's the reason why he's on the background for
me. Guys, by the way, I've got the
9395 away shirt with David Hurston.
I just, I think without injurieshe would have been a top Premier
League striker. He was obviously on Man United
books or the Radar, sorry, not books, but he was a, again, I
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put him in the category of Alan Shearer, Ian Wright, Les
Ferdinand, that poacher. His goals didn't have to be from
30 yards. He was just, you know, in the
box, getting in the thick of it with a defender.
I've got Mark Hughes, mate. What do you think from your
Welsh contingent? Yeah, I think he's another one.
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He's probably, I think he's tarnished his career, but it's
one of those plays I reckon tarnish his career by his ship
management career. Where is it now, Carlisle?
Yeah, yeah. But he's still some he's got
some cracking goals and he's sparky. 292 Premier League
appearances and 64 goals. Yeah, now you got a.
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Goal scoring talent because he was probably what more 80s
wasn't he for United? Yeah, 80s.
And we spoke about this before we went on air as well about
Eric Canson and Matt Leticia. I didn't know.
Did we consider them strikers ormidfielders?
I consider them midfielders. Yeah, I do.
I know Cantona was used as a striker, but later years it was
more kind of yeah. I think if you put the physiere
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for for the tisier was more of that kind of free roaming
attacking midfielder. Yeah.
Like he scored from 30 yards andyou know, all those sort of
goals. I just don't think he was a
centre forward. Yeah, I think Alan Ball at
Southampton gave him that flexibility to do whatever he
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wanted and that's why he had a great season.
You know, it was that freedom ofplay that they gave.
It wasn't a striker. Would you would you say the same
about Stan Collymore? Yeah, he wasn't with a cosy
Stan. My sister Stan's goals, apart
from that one against Newcastle,were just outside the box there.
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That's kind of when I think of Stan Collymore.
Think of him just the one against United, Forest, one
against Sheffield, Sheffield Wednesday for Liverpool.
Outside the box, yeah. Don't think he'd use him as a
main striker, would you? No.
What about Niall Quinn? Oh, I'll tell.
You what? I love that Niall Quinn, Paul
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Paul Paul Walsh Partnership little large.
Yeah, again, he he worked well with Kevin Phillips in the late
90s for Sunderland. You know, he was a again,
another striker that just just did a job, went under the radar.
Tony Cotty, Jamesy. Tony Cotty?
Yeah. Are you a striker?
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I remember. It's looking back at it and I
didn't realise for the first twoseasons how many goals he
scored. Dean Holsworth, remember?
Dean Holsworth for women, Yeah. Well done, season.
You know what? Yeah.
Incredible. The first season he scored
nineteen goals in 34 games, the second season, 17.
And then it just needs to peak off.
But he was, yeah. Yeah, no Dion.
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Dublin. Oh, I love Dion Dublin.
Gian Franco Zola. Was Zola more a striker or what
do you point him as? Again, I've put question mark
under Zola because he was a bit of a winger.
And did have been Maestro. Yeah, a bit of an all, an all
all over the place. I'm going to mention Jurgen
Klinsmann, and I only want to mention him very briefly because
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I think he gets talked about toomuch as a Premier League great.
He had a great season but he didn't, you know, he didn't set
the world alike in English football, in my opinion.
I do, you know when he signed, So yeah, going back to that.
So yeah, his first season he scored twenty goals.
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Yeah. Then he comes back on loan in
90s. Ninety 798 for Spurs.
Had it? Yeah.
It wasn't the same. He scored nine goals.
I think he scored a hat trick orsomething.
Four goals he scored. I know.
I bet it wasn't the same, was it?
It wasn't the same Klinsmann. Nope.
But yeah, I I wouldn't put them on my list to be honest.
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It's a bit weird, isn't it? It's like a kind of, I think
just people used his kind of fame from the 90s, Germany,
Bayern Munich, Syria, then thought I play in the Premier
League, amazing. I'm, I'm looking at like the
reason why I chose who I chose is because they lasted a lot of
Premier League seasons and they were consistently good
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performers in any club they represented.
Yeah. You know, and I think that's,
that's a striker to me. Yeah, and all right, so.
You know. So I've just added two to my
kind of list. I didn't make just just names.
Probably people forgotten, but do you remember?
Do you remember Brett? Angel Yeah.
(01:01:24):
Oh my God. So he got signed by Mike Walker
for 500,000 and then he had major surgery on his leg and he
just couldn't get to his full potential.
Only one goal in 19 games. He's a bit of a bruiser, didn't
he, though? He was a bit of a sort of like.
AI like I like this way forward.I like this one from Neville
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Southall. He's so big.
Nevada said the step up for the Premier League was probably too
much from he had the first touchlike a tackle.
Yeah, so great, Angel. Yeah, and my last one as well.
Probably Hammers fans would probably know this one.
Here we go. Remember this guy Samasu Abu?
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Abu Yeah, I was going to say. Yeah, so he's not considered a
flop by no West Ham, but he's considered a bit of a cult
figure. Yeah, I think he was known for
his memorable own goal miss. But I saw this quote, which I
found funny. He asked one time, I think it
was the last day of the season, why West Ham fans Boo him.
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And a teammate, a teammate replied, sort of saying no.
They say Abu. And then from that moment he
always had a big smile in his face when he heard a Boo.
And then he went after that. He got released to Ipswich Town
and he scored once against Sheffield United.
There you go. Good old Abu.
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Yeah, well done, mate. Strikers, stinkers.
Good ones. You know what, if we did this
list again, we my list would be different.
As I said, I've crossed out. You've got crossed out.
But as I said, it's a good episode to do.
Yeah, Jonesy, I want to be challenged here.
Anyone thinks I've not put anything in the top five that I
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should have or any stinkers thatyou think Jonesy should have put
in his top five, tell us becausewe want to know.
And it was a tough call for us. But we have to do that list at
the end to kind of recognise because it's not just about
scoring goals to be a good striker.
You know, it's the Nile Quinns of the Premier League to hold it
up that do a job. And I think I've probably met
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this quite a few times on the pod.
My quote for today if I could domy Elmo Sesame Street moment, my
quote of the pod is to do a job to.
Do a job. Oh love it.
I'm. Still, I'm still reeling from
that 442 list, but we'll cover it off on another pod Jonesy,
shall we? We.
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Will mate. Yeah, absolutely.
I'd love to. I'd love to cover the Premier
League Hall of Fame as well to cover that.
Episode that was in options. And the house don't.
Yeah, something doesn't sit right with me, but there are.
We can chat about that another time.
Yeah, what do we want from our listeners now, James?
We want a bit of a revival of previous episodes gone by, don't
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we? Yeah, we were chatting about
mailbag memories. I need to bring that back.
Yeah. Sorry if you have any questions,
anything, any controversial. If you've got 100, I actually
don't do 100. I'm not reading 100 players out.
If you've got a top five, top ten, which you want us to read
out as well or anything, Yeah, let us know and I'll bring back
(01:04:47):
the Mail Back Memories segment. Yeah, great show.
Yeah, yeah, cool mate, brilliantmate.
Thank you ever so much again forthe the edits and the graphics
etcetera. If if you would like to
obviously see more of Jonesy's delightful artwork or on his
page because Jonesy has now become the king of would you say
(01:05:10):
catalogue football now Jonesy. I'm obsessed.
Talk to us, give us a little brief insight into your page
mate. Come on.
Yes, but I think the old 90s catalogue has taken over.
I am going to bring back some ofmy original material but I just
keep finding gold. Yeah, you do.
Quizar I'm a big yeah, I'm a bigfan of adverts and things like
(01:05:32):
that, so if I could find little adverts and stuff like that I'll
share them on. But that typifies nostalgia,
though, doesn't it, Jonesy? Those, those catalogues and
those boots and the gloves and you know, the kit.
The comments I'm getting as wellof what memories, you know, it's
brought back to people, I think that's what you know, that's
what it's all about. The one you did yesterday of
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Duncan Ferg, not Duncan Ferguson, Ally McCoist in the
Scotland kit and all of the pictures, oh, just the pictures
of the kit. So I did that bit of a number I
love in yesterday, wasn't it? Yeah.
Yeah, but no, it's good. And hopefully find some more.
But yeah, I'm at football. Joindy, where are you?
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I'm Woody W 1988 so I like to doall anything kind of Premier
League, Sheffield Wednesday, mainly the.
New new kids lately are there, aren't you?
Yeah, yeah, I've got a few new kits coming up which that's too
good to miss. But if you do want to buy
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yourself a new kit or an old kitor anything glorious in between,
we do have a Premier League podcast code for classic
football shirts, don't we Jamesy?
Absolutely. I think you just got to go to
your go to the cart when you go check out enter PL pod 10 and
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you get 10% off. We've had a few thank yous as of
late, haven't we? A few people have used the
discount code which is nice to see you.
Absolutely. Yeah.
Yeah, it's good. Making me very jealous of the
purchases. But that's OK.
I know. Yeah, yeah, Jonesy, thank you
ever so much, mate. I think we'll wrap it up from
here, but anything else you wantto speak to us about?
(01:07:19):
No, just keep liking sharing. Yeah, tell your neighbour about
the pods. Just put us out there to the
world. Yep, lovely.
Thanks mate. All right.
Thanks guys. Thanks for listening.
Bye, guys.
Hello and welcome to that 90s Premier League podcast.
Another turbo sized edition. Woody, how are you mate?
Very well, mate. 25, beautiful number.
How are you doing? Yeah.
Good, good. How about yourself?
Very well, thanks. Very well.
Football's back on the telly, soWoody's a happy man.
(00:33):
Excellent. Excellent you watch much this
weekend so far. Just Bundesliga mate, just to.
Yeah, dirty word on a Premier League podcast.
Mate, that's. Some, however, though you're,
you're, you're enjoying the football, aren't you at the
moment. Oh, absolutely.
Yeah. Yeah, that seems to be my thing.
Don't do a good time, that's why.
(00:54):
Yeah. Sorry for me, yeah, bit of
Bundesliga, but yeah, cool, let's get into it.
So what's today mate? What are we talking about?
Well, I think you came up with this title mate, didn't you?
Because it's strikers and stinkers, which I love by the
way, because I think we've what we've done.
Midfield maestros. Yeah, of course.
(01:15):
We've done a tiny little dabble on goalkeepers with Al Shore,
but we haven't gone into a lot of goalkeepers yet, so that's
still to come. Yeah, Yeah.
But would you say strikers, do they make the Premier League?
I mean, it's, it's goals, isn't it?
I mean, like, come on, we'll talk about goals.
(01:36):
Yeah, yeah, they do. And I, I think, you know, they
these these magazines and stuff come up with 100 greatest
players of all time. And strikers should be featuring
up there, not goalkeepers. No.
And do you know, we've said thisthough, haven't we?
We don't. You don't get a Christmas VHS
with like 100 best passes or like the 75 best through balls
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of the Premier League in 1990. We did.
We did. Found the other week the save
save saves. Oh wow.
Save, save saves, yeah, but. There's no, there's no defence,
defence, defence, is there? No.
And it is all about goals. So I think, I think it's only
sort of, it's only right that wetalk about strikers today,
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however. Absolutely.
Jonesy, what are you in charge of today, mate?
Yep. So we we decided to branch out
and focus on different things. So you've gone for the Premier
strikers, I've gone for the Premier stinkers.
Yeah, I've got the good bit. And, and just to put out that
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it's just a name. I'm not discouraging people's
profession. I'm, you know, they're a lot
more technical gifted than I ever was.
It's just a name. All right, so.
Yeah, yeah. So yeah, it's going to be a good
episode. It's going to be a good one
though. That disclaimer out there early,
Jamesy, if he's teacher on my stinkers list, it's nothing
personal. That sounds a good.
That's fine. Yes, but it's good.
(03:05):
Yeah, it's a good one. It's a good one to do, as I
said, and it's going to be it's,it was a hard one to come come
up with. Like you said, you were
struggling. I was struggling, but I think
the listeners, they're going to have their own list as well,
aren't they? So which we'd love to hear from
as well. Well, we love a healthy debate,
don't we James? And I think that's the whole
(03:25):
point about this because becausethe 90s Premier League had so
much going on, we're not going to get it right every week.
We're not the oracles of this Premier League.
We are just voices for you guys listening or viewing, you know?
So if you feel a certain strikershould have been on top of the
list or shouldn't have made the list or reasons why, tell us.
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We love it. Yes, shall I absolutely.
Give us your reason and I'll show you here Jonesy, this is my
prep. I've shown you this before
right? But this is a list of strikers
that were on my list already andI had to whittle that down to 5,
so it wasn't it. Tell me about your stinker
research. Was it long or was it easy?
(04:10):
No longer as well, but as I saidbefore, we we were recording as
well. We've already done a Foreign
Legion episode, so I tried not to kind of delve back into that.
That's in the archives, guys, ifyou want to listen to that one.
Foreign Legion 11. I like that episode as well.
Didn't you? Yeah, that was a great episode.
So yeah, I'm just kind of just kind of picked, yeah, it was
(04:34):
difficult, but it's just going off memories.
Like you think you sit back and go, who was shit?
I mean, who was, you know? Don't see, you seem nervous
today now that you've got the stinkers live on recording.
At first you try. Well, we didn't draw straws for
this one, did we? You took the stinkers straight
away. You said, look, I'm going to
adopt these guys. I'm the only reason who's dank.
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I think because, yeah, I thoughtlike, you've got like you've got
a whole page there. But yeah, I thought, oh, the
premier strikers would be. Yeah, that's easy.
Stinkers. Oh, all right, I'll get that out
of the way. And then I was like, oh geez,
we're going to. But in terms of like strikers,
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before we go into anything else,right, tell me what, what did a
striker in the 90s Premier League mean to you?
Were you a kind of kid to add strikers posters on the wall?
Were you always a striker when you were playing football in the
garages or in the playground? Or were you a bit more of a, you
know, switched on? I'm going to go a midfielder
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here. I'm going to be John Barnes
McManaman, Jamie Redknapp. Yeah, always wanted to be the
Yeah, always wanted to be the striker.
Want to get? You want to get the glory, don't
you? Yeah, I think you're right.
I think like they're always the name, aren't they?
Like on the top, like the goalscorer is always the pin up,
you know, the the main person that they talk about.
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So I suppose we we have to do a podcast based on these guys.
Very interested to see your listof annual explanations.
Yeah, well, before we go into itall, I will explain the reasons
why. But should we discuss what
garments we're wearing today, Dearest Jonesy?
Absolutely cool. You go first this time because I
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rewatched last week's episode and I was chatting so much that
I didn't even go Jonesy, what are you wearing?
And the look of your little face.
You went. I'm wearing the Liverpool shoe
so that's why. That's why.
That's why I shared on Instagrammate.
I felt even worse watching that back again.
I was like, ah, I didn't even dohis.
(06:42):
Intro Don't worry, I'll do my bloody intro, OK?
Drumroll, what are you wearing? I am wearing, I won't go into
the player which influenced me this because he might be on my
list, but I'm wearing the Nottingham Forest 99 four to 96
home shirt. Who'd you think of this one,
mate? Yeah, that's the yeah.
(07:03):
It's a beautiful shirt, isn't it?
Because it's got heavy black detail.
And on this is it's, it's not on.
It's just over the arms, isn't it?
Just slightly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a beautiful shirt, the badge.
I love Nottingham Forests badge.I think it's a badge, yeah.
It should never, ever change. It's like Sheffield Wednesdays,
like just the outline, you know,Like you can kind of do that
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with a felt pen in one swift motion.
Do you know what I mean? Like one kind of like attack
kind of. You have a tree in the the
river. Oh, it's brilliant.
It's a giant shield, isn't it? Look at that.
Yeah, I mean that for me there wasn't too much difference
between because this is what year did you say that was chat?
(07:47):
This was 94 to 96. And then the 96 to 97. 7 was
like the kind of you've got thatone.
Yeah, I've got that one. But yeah, the differences are
very minimal in my opinion. Yeah, and I'll tell you that.
Yeah, yeah. This one, I don't know, is this
one kind of like a the same typelike as Man City's way this?
(08:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The black and red striped one.
Yeah. But yeah, great shirt, classic
Umbro. Classic Umbro that tells that
screams Ian Wown. Ian Wyn.
Yeah, last joke. He is.
Yeah, you do. Because he was a Blackburn boy,
wasn't he? Yeah, after Forest went to yeah,
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we, we, we talked about that. I think we talked about that one
in detail on the Foreign Legion episode we did.
I'll be referring back to everyone who has listened to
that go back to it. So I'm not repenting myself.
But yeah, good job mate, good choice.
Yeah, cool. So that's that's what we're
wearing. Are you joking, mate?
What are you wearing? Oh wow touché I am wearing the
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Leeds United 90. We said 93 to 95 didn't we?
Home shirt for this one ASICS lovely number Thistle hotels.
The difference with this shirt is guys it has a very bright
thick blue collar and for you those of you that are watching
on YouTube you will see there isa stripe in the middle of the
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shirt which is a yellow and blueband.
I like this shirt. It's very comfy, isn't it?
Very comfy. Yeah, Yeah, it's it's funny,
isn't it? How like when we get older, we
go for design as a kid and the look and then the player that
wore it and now we go for comfort.
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As I said, yeah, yeah, some of the ones I try and.
They're like, oh, how brave. No, I'm.
Not worried now. Welcome to the 90s Premier
League podcast. It's a cracking 1, isn't it?
Yeah. Karen Mccallaston, Gary Kelly.
Yeah, all the Gary's. Yeah, the Gary, Gary, Gary.
Yeah, triple Gary and Carlton Palmer.
(10:01):
Oh, of course, yeah. When he left Chef for Wednesday
in the 9495 season, broke my heart.
But he wore this jet. Still love Carl.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what we're wearing, mate.
Yeah. Oh, excellent.
All right. Got a stat for us?
I'm ready. Before we start, I was going to
(10:24):
update the intro right, but I can't find that binder anywhere
online. You're going to have to send me
a photo mate. It's fine.
You can keep it at that. But yeah, it's a bit of a bright
1, isn't it? Yeah, OK, like it.
I'll send you a picture. Before we start, I keep sending
woody binders. I keep finding different binders
on eBay. The one you sent me though
(10:44):
recently, that does look very professional, that one.
Yeah, the learning pack. The learning, Yeah, it looks
like, I don't know if it's a referees.
No, you have to share it. But yeah, I just keep signing
the binders and I go, oh, here you go, you have a.
Collection, but that binder looks like if we ever, if we are
ever. This sounds so stupid me saying
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this out loud. If we are ever fortunate enough
to have a Premier League player on our podcast, that is the
binder that I would have. I'd be like, well, thank you for
joining. Today's schedule will be Oh
yeah. And I'll be really formal, like
you won't see me the same. It's a cool one.
It's got little, little pockets where you put stuff in.
Did you see it? It's got like.
Yeah, it's got. It's a podcast.
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Presenters dream Jonesy that fine day.
Yeah. All right, what have?
We got Sorry, I digress. Start of the week this week.
So the most consecutive seasons to score at least thirty goals
goes to the wonder Talisman AlanShearer.
OK, we will talk about him a bitmore in the podcast.
(11:49):
However, I wanted to just blow his trumpet a bit more this
week. OK, so in consecutive seasons,
he joined Blackburn in the season of 1992, but obviously he
had an ACL injury halfway through the season, which
obviously ruled him out for the rest of that that season.
So, but he still scored sixteen goals in 1992, which is
(12:15):
incredible, right signing from Southampton.
However, 1993 to 94 he scored 31goals, 94 to 95.
Obviously when Blackburn won thePremier League, he scored 34.
In 9596 he scored 31 again but Blackburn that season finished
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7th. Now you if if your striker is
scoring 30 plus goals a season, you win in the league right?
You would think so, yeah. I mean, I know Kevin Phillips
did for Sunderland in the sort of 99, two thousands.
How on earth like that? Consistency is incredible for a
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striker, isn't it? I mean.
That that Blackburn, obviously, you know, strike punish with
Chris Sutton. Chris Sutton said that he was
happy for Shearer to take all the glory and things like that
as well. Yeah, but even in that 9596, I
mean, Ray Harford kind of he kind of dropped Sutton for a
little bit and Mike Newell was up front with him.
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But he's still got his 31 goals.Yeah, incredible.
And they, they valued Alan Shearer's transfer and today's
money. I mean it was, it was valued a
few years ago, but obviously it was against players like
Neymar's transfer etcetera and his move to Newcastle in this
day's money would have equivalated to 222 million.
(13:41):
Wow. Yeah, Mental.
Yeah, Because of his goal stats and the kind of the player that
he was at that time, Yeah, that's how much he would have
been worth. And do you know what?
That's an incredible kind of tribute to how good he was in
the Premier League. I'm so I'm so glad his record
(14:03):
still stands. I was always a bit nervous Harry
Kane was going to. Yeah, yeah, I would.
Yeah, it's probably going to be broken at some point, but I
think at the moment it needs to stay with Big Al.
Yes. That's my start of the week.
Excellent. Thank you.
Love that one. OK, so I was doing a bit of
(14:24):
digging around what's going on in the month of September.
So just a little bit of information I found 1993 due to
the month of September. No bias on this part though,
mate. There we go.
Let me bring up the start. No sweet September.
All right, So Liverpool. Oh.
In the month of September 1993, Liverpool lost through four
(14:45):
games in a row. Wowzers.
So I lost against Coventry City,one nil.
Do you know who scored that game?
Do you know who scored that goalfor Coventry?
And Levu. Phil Bap.
No. Yeah, obviously before his
transfer the previous season. They were completely fill kebab
(15:07):
at Highfield Rd. Oh dear, so that was at the 1st
of September. The 12th of September 1993
Liverpool lost home to Blackburn. 18th of September
they lost two nil to Everton away.
And. Yeah, and then the 25th of
September, they lost one nil against Chelsea away, but
looking for it, just looking, I thought that's terrible.
(15:29):
Yeah, you see, as soon as it didn't last very long, did he,
after that. But yeah, just a kind of a, as I
said, no sweet September in 1993for Liverpool.
That's unheard of now. Imagine that happening.
Yeah. I mean, I don't think there's
room for that now in today's dayand Asia Premier League.
Is there really? No, I didn't know it was that
(15:50):
bad, mate. But thank you for airing your
dirty laundry on on air. So that's much approved.
Because that's what I saw in AI was going through some shoot
magazines for September and a few people were writing into the
Jimmy Graves and the kind of airing their grievances.
With their dirty of football. Yeah, Jimmy Graves tell you what
some of the stuff on there is like, it's mind blowing.
(16:12):
Like the the things people writein, you know, people complaining
about Coca-Cola Cup haven't replays, you know, oh, it's
taken the toll and players scrapthe scrap the second legs,
things like that back then. Nutrition though wasn't there in
the 90s though so having all of these replays in the week like
the players must have been knackered.
(16:32):
Yeah, it's funny how some obviously someone who supports a
Premier League team are going, you know, doesn't benefit, only
benefits the lower league teams financially and you're just
like. Oh.
God, yeah, I won't go through it.
That's Jimmy Graves. If you ever have shoot magazines
from 93, there's some good columns in there.
Yeah, there we go. Cool.
Do you want to get on to premierstrikers and premier stinkers?
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So like everything else Woody I've done, I've done stick a
beautiful. Edit.
There you go. So I don't know if you notice
the people who are going to be watching on Spotify and YouTube.
So Woody on his sticker book hasgot a nice gold shiny badge
going to mine. Oh.
Got a knife, Rustic One that's fallen in the bin somewhere for
(17:20):
the stinkers, all right. A bit of a rustic.
Well, this to to me, from what Ican see right now, looks like
it's clouded by some sort of stench.
Is that the But it's the booty. Oh, by the way.
Yep, good, all done I. Was going to say that looks like
Zola in the back, doesn't it? Yeah, I was looking for a kind
of a sticker book colour, what can I do?
(17:41):
And I was looking for a green number.
I was like Sabiri. I had a good cover, I could call
it. Possibly buy Yeah.
All right, cool. Excellent.
All right, so let's start with your premier strikers #5 yeah,
what's going on? Right, so I'm going to give you
a little bit of a background guys, into why I'm choosing why,
(18:02):
who I'm choosing. I've not just gone for goals.
I've not just gone for the top of like people's lists on online
or in the record books, etcetera.
I have gone for my top five strikers.
That one I've given their all for all of their clubs they've
played for. They would good honest, decent
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strikers, good performances, consistency, strong but also
gave us good memories in the Premier League.
So to start this off in at #5 isLes Ferdinand.
So Les Ferdinand made 349 Premier League appearances
scoring 149 goals within the 9 easy played for QPR, Spurs and
(18:49):
Newcastle. So I I would say Les Ferdinand
is close to being a complete striker.
Jonesy I don't know what you think.
I mean, he was great in the air,strong up top, held the ball up
well, but a powerful Thunderboltof a strike.
He seemed to, he seemed to, I don't know, he seemed to kind of
(19:11):
float in the air for ages, didn't he?
Yeah. I just think his kind of, most
of his photos that I've seen of him in action is him kind of
like shoulder, the hands on the defender's shoulders and about 8
feet above them, kind of like going with his head.
I just, I just liked him as a striker.
I just thought he was very kind of like he always delivered.
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If you had Les Ferdinand up front, he was kind of like,
yeah, he'll do a job today. I know he's.
Always right? Yeah.
Yeah, he'll get a penalty or he'll cause mischief.
He must have been a nightmare for defenders.
But just looking at I don't knowif you can see that sticker.
Have you seen how it's tiny? The CFSCS?
Sponsor, yeah. So it looks like someone's, I
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don't know what they've done, what they've done, sticky taped
it on. That might be probably like
between sponsors or something and they've got classic, classic
melon. Oh, yeah, yeah, might be, might
be, yeah, because that's quite abig sponsor.
Yeah, but no, that's, that's great.
I mean, this is your sticker book, mate.
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You know, you've got a nice shiny one.
I've got the tatty old sticker book, but that's all right.
I don't care though for this. He only played 17 times for
England, scoring five goals. We've, we've just been, I think,
I think we've talked about that before it happened.
Well, it just doesn't make sense.
It doesn't make sense. You know, I just, I don't get
it. But yeah, Les Ferdinand,
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memories of him, brilliant. Yeah, I loved him at Newcastle
as well. Excellent.
Let me get on to my first time. All right #5 I've got John Darl
Tomlinson. Why?
Why? Yeah.
John Dale Tomlinson so so he's he I'll go through the Newcastle
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stuff. So he's considered a flop
because he only scored four goals and 35 appearances during
the single season during during 9798.
So struggling to adapt to the Premier League after a 2.5
million transfer from apparent being so I mean, I've talked
about it before that preseason friend, preseason friend.
I think against Celtic, he was in a tournament.
He was great. But yeah, apparently just, yeah,
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he was expected to be a prolificgoal scorer, but he just, yeah,
he struggled. So he just found the physical
demands of the Premier League challenging, couldn't adjust to
the high expectations of a team that had lost key attackers like
David Ginola and Les Ferdinand. Oh, so wow, how this has worked
out, Jonesy. So super Les has been replaced
by John Dahl. Yeah.
Yeah. All right.
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OK. So he's this.
Season they brought about 50 in in the summer as well.
He was wasn't. He I think, yeah.
So I think Kenny was here, wasn't he?
So he was signed as a link up player.
So he's like, he's signed as a link up player with Alan
Shearer. And he was moved to the striker
position after Shearer's injury and the transfer of Ferdinand,
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but he just kind of lacked the necessary physical strength.
So there you go. Front then if he weren't scoring
and Shearer was injured, was it Tito?
Was it that weird season when John Beresford was the top
scorer? You remember that?
Is that true? Oh dear.
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Let. Me have a look.
Wasn't the top scorer he was scoring, wasn't he?
I mean, I'm basing this on John Dal Thomason being good for
Denmark because I liked watchinghim for Denmark in like the
World Cups, etcetera. But yeah, it's a shame, isn't
it, sometimes that when you get a striker that you've got high
hoped for that's performed in other leagues and then comes to
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the Premier League and is literally like poop, it is
disheartening, isn't it? I think, I mean, I think even
think, I think that's going thatseason, John Beresford was
scoring some, but I think he wasa top scorer.
But John Barnes I think was, washe that top scorer was six or
seven or something. It was a terrible season.
Yeah. Good.
Great kit though. But yeah, John Dale Thomas and
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he, he did well after that. I think he went to AC Milan into
final AC Malone. You did well at AC Malone.
Yeah, yeah. Former Blackburn Roaders manager
as well. Yeah, lots of promise for John
Dell, but just. Yeah, just didn't deliver.
All right, your next one. So let me spray some air
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freshener on this after having such a stinker of John Dell
Thompson. Who have I got in there before
Jamesy? Teddy, Teddy, Teddy, Teddy Teddy
sharing I was I was struggling to pick which picture because
the season after the the wind swoops his hair very nicely.
Yeah, 95 one, but I thought I'd go the 9394 sticker.
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He's puffed his chest out in this one, hasn't he as well?
I mean, he's either holding something in or there was a the
main female photographer. Oh yeah.
That's like Ricky Gervais in like David Brent will change his
shirt, like, Oh yeah, you're right.
Yeah, So when have you got Teddy?
Wow. Again, I just, I just think
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Teddy Sheringham is like the pinnacle 9 E striker for me. 417
Premier League appearances, 146 goals, 70 assists.
I've I because I base my experience of watching Teddy
Sharingham on EUR 96, right? He was, he was the perfect
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partner of a striker, in my opinion.
To Andy Cole, to Alan Shearer for England.
Yeah, yeah, you know, Klinsmann.So he's got 70 assists through
his Premier League career. Wow.
He's obviously played at Forest,Spurs and Manchester United
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during the 90s. Obviously I.
Hated him at Man United. Did you?
Yeah, I like. Him.
Yeah, I agree. I didn't like him at Man United,
but now I look back at him at Man United and I appreciate his
genius. Yeah, obviously he's synonymous
for his performance against Bayern Munich at the new camp in
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the Champions League final. I I liked Teddy sharing him.
No, because I liked the fact that he left Bang United to go
back to Spurs. I just like it when players left
United as a kid, yeah, I felt they were so greedy buying all
the best players. I liked it when players left.
I mean, that's really childish. I mean his longevity as well.
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What, was he 36 when he finishedEngland or something?
Yeah, I mean the an incredible international career.
Because that's what I say though.
Like he wasn't put there for hiskind of goal scoring because
you're a 96. I always remember his pass to
Alan Shearer against Holland. Well yet.
Thrashed Holland for one. And it was that kind of like
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open his body out, pass it and then Shearer just like drills it
into the top corner. I just think he always had a
great weight of a pass. He was always really clever.
He was just very switched on as a professional footballer and I
think he just he was. I think the.
Bodied it well. The perfect second striker.
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Yeah, very much like who can I, who can I associate him to now?
Like a Giroud, Olivier Giroux. Yeah, yeah.
You know, get the ball down, hold it up like an either good
Johnson used to do for Chelsea with Hasselbank.
You know, you always needed thatsecond, second striker.
So yeah, Tony Sheringham, take abook all.
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Right, all right, let's go buds with my sticker book, my second
one. Something stinks around here,
Jones. It's #4 for you.
What you with him? Look at that sticker.
Remember Ibrahim, back of your car?
Wow, is he leaning there? Jonesy the Merlin's Dicker.
New signing? Yeah.
Do you remember? Hey.
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Yeah. Ibrahima in the building.
Ibrahima OK Yoko So he's considered a flop during his
time. Everton he failed to live up to
his high expectations, I think. Not for his difference though.
No, I think they paid, yeah, they paid 4.5 million for him in
1998 and it was considerable wowsurrounding his potential and he
just didn't deliver. I mean, you look at on YouTube,
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he scored a cracking goal against Bristol City in in the
FA Cup or Coca-Cola Cup, a free kick.
But I remember the hype when they signed it and it was just
wasn't there. This is the sort of time that he
was playing with like Matt Razziand Slavan Village in that kit,
right? Joe Max Moore.
Who was he? One Who?
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Joe Max. I've never heard that name.
Have you just created like a MaxPower?
Kind of like Homer Simpson name Joe Max Moore.
Joe Max Moore right 19 oh 1999 They signed him November 11th.
(28:14):
Here we go, we're Segway. Joe Max Moore signed with
Everton after he impressed Everton staff on the seven day
tryout. Here you go.
From from where? Jonesy.
I've never heard of this guy's name.
No Joe Max more. Jeez.
I mean, he could. Be stop, stop saying Joe Max.
More like she was what? Do you mean he did?
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He was elected into the USA National Soccer Hall of Fame in
2013. So he signed him from New
England Revolution. Wow, is he #3 for you?
No, no, in Brahima, Becky. OK.
We've just segued. It's just you've mentioned the
world's most random footballer to was he partners to Becky
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hookup from Foreverton? Think they were around the same
time, weren't they 90? 9 because I I remember Danny
Kadamatri in that kit. Yeah.
Duncan Ferguson, obviously. Yeah, I saw.
So I segue in from that as well.Sorry.
So Ibrahima Bakayoko was a if you play Championship manager
around that sign. I found this from 90s, but there
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we go. So Ibrahima Bakayoko,
Championship manager, fans lovedhim, Everton's fans didn't.
So he was one of those mate. He had a 20 for Influence, 18
for Pace. He was like, yeah, he was a
cracking. I remember signing 18 for
shooting. What was his prices?
Tag. I can't.
Remember that we said he was at Montpellier before Everton?
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OK. So yeah, he was.
I always remember signing him. Yeah, sorry.
I can imagine you Jonesy for Championship Manager by the way,
mate, you're literally going to log in and like when you start a
new season you go straight to the search bar and type in
Ibrahima Bakayoko just for the snap.
You buy him straight away. Yeah, he was.
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So he played 23 games, scored four goals, and he was moved on.
Yeah. So what?
Shame. Yeah.
There you go. Him.
Brahima. Back here.
OK. Like the photo?
Joe Max Moore. Yeah, come on.
If anyone right, someone needs to help me out here.
If any of you listeners or viewers want to want to tell me
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you knew who Joe Max Moore is, Imean we.
Can do we can do a forgotten episode?
I've forgotten Players episode one time.
I knew, I knew Maxwell House. That was a coffee.
I'll share where I'll do the edit.
I'll share a photo of Joe Max. Moore Yeah, you're going to
laugh. I'm going to.
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Yeah. There you go.
All right, let's get on to your next one.
OK, back to Woody's sticker book.
So you're #3 whoever we got Ian,right, Right, right.
No. Introduction.
Yes, we all know about. Yeah, the main man.
Good old Uncle Ian. What can I say about Ian Wright
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that not many people already know?
I mean, it's just a character, first of all.
And I say character in the best sense.
I mean, as in he was funny, likepassionate for Arsenal
celebrations. I love these celebrations.
Yeah, like I'm going to say shithouse because at times like
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when he used to wind up the Tottenham fans or Man United,
like his tackle on Peter Schmeichel at High I.
Was going to say he had a bit ofyeah, a bit of.
A, you know, he had a real ruthless streak to him.
And if I'm honest, a good striker needs to get under
people's skin. You know, like Jamie Vardy did,
you know, all that kind of bickering, the wind up, you
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know, the kind of just riling updefenders and stuff like that.
He had a character to him and a bit of Pzazz. 213 Premier League
appearances, 113 Premier League goals, 33 caps for England with
nine goals in return. If they didn't have Thierry
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Henry, he'd be Arsenal's greatest ever.
Oh, oh, hang on. Would he not shoot too soon?
Hold up, hold up. Yeah, that.
Yeah, I'm not going to say it. Would he zip it?
Ian Wright is just a brilliant striker.
Farth, his chipper Ellen Rd was glorious.
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Yeah. Just the fact that he was just,
he tucked in his collar, you know, he just had a bit of
something about him that people loved.
Yeah, and I think we seem to have fun, didn't he on the
pitch? He had a smile in his face at
home. Spot on, mate.
Actually, he looked like he was enjoying himself when he played
and he was playing for that kindof fun and that resonated, I
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think, in his performances. So, yeah, yeah, right.
Yeah, excellent. Good call.
OK. Oh dear.
I. Don't.
Know why? Kind of regretting now I miss
Sean Dundee. Yeah, I remember Sean.
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Dundee All right, so Sean Dundeewas considered a Liverpool flop
because his £2,000,000 transfer in 1998 was a miserable failure
resulting in a mere 5 appearances, no goals and and
less than an hour of playing time before his return to
Germany. So he was brought in as to cover
and injured Robbie Fowler, but fate failed to impress and was
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sold. Former Roy Former Liverpool
manager Roy Evans called him terrible and one of his most
regrettable signings. Wow.
Yeah, so happy to have that tag.So he only made five substitute
appearances in total, never starring the game.
So Dundee admitted himself he wasn't fit enough upon his
arrival and that his focus on gym work slowed him down instead
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of improving his. Football.
Where'd he come from? Kalzru in Germany.
OK, but he was and he was Australian, right?
He was South African. South Africa.
Yeah, so he was promising striker.
Yeah, so he was. He was doing well in Germany.
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For some reason when I hear youraccent say Dundee, I immediately
go into Australia. Mick Dundee.
Yeah, Crocodile, Sean. So Dundee's Liverpool spell
ended with him failing to score in 56 minutes on the pitch.
So we sell to Stuttgart for 1,000,000.
Wow. Yeah, so he, he's, as I said
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before, he's he's frequently features on Liverpool's worst
signings of all time list. And while initially blaming the
managers, now he acknowledges his own mistakes, such as a lack
of work ethic. Oh I feel a little bit sad for
this one mate, having read he was a kind of comment from Roy
Evans as well and this saying. That I mean.
Admitting it as well. He was like, I don't know if he
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was like there as a wonder kid. I think I've shown this before
when he was, you know, he had his own in Germany.
He had his own video game, Sean Dundee's World Cup football.
Have you just made this up? No, no, no.
So she had. A computer game.
So yeah, so Sean Dundee had his name attached to a 1997 video
game called Sean Dundee's World Cup Football.
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The game was sorry. It's a German repackage of Puma
World Football 98. That's not even a Carl's Reuer
share either, is it? No, it's got uni.
It's like Ubisoft Productions onthere.
Wow. They've like just, they've gone
full like deep Norwich City there.
Deep footballer simulation. Oh God.
(35:56):
There you go. If anyone's ever played that
game, let me know. Yeah, please.
But yeah, as I said, he he's oneI've seen before.
A feature on Liverpool's worst sightings.
Are you noticing A distinct correlation between this and the
Foreign Legion? Now what?
Do you mean? Well, like a lot of these
players that come in from the Premier League, foreign legion
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wise, the international players didn't take to the Premier
League straight away, did they? No.
I mean, so far three of my top five have been England strikers
in the Premier League in the 90s.
Yeah, yeah. It's very difficult for an
international striker to take charge straight away, isn't it?
Yeah, they have to be very special, don't they?
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Yeah. All right, cool.
So we're going to go on to your number 2. #2.
Is drum roll Mr Alan Shearer? Now I wonder how many listeners
have spat out their coffee at this point thinking that he
should be #1 hey. Did I choose my?
He was my #1. Was he?
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Yeah, my original list. Yeah, he was on there.
I want to know in a minute what your your top five is.
May I see if you've got it right?
441 Premier League appearances. Wowza Rooney. 260 Premier League
goals 112 goals in 138 appearances for Blackburn alone.
(37:28):
Come on, like I don't need to say much more about Alan
Shearer. We've obviously mentioned him in
the start of the week. Oh I just like those 4 strikers
I've I've just put there I'd quite happily finish with.
I just think they are incredibleEnglish Premier League heritage
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strikers. Yes, I agree.
Like I just they they add everything though strikers.
Comparing for. I mean, we've done it before.
Comparing then to now with English strikers, it's I don't
even. Daylight unbelievable.
Like I just like these aren't I mean, other than Teddy sharing
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them. These aren't necessarily tall
strikers. They're not necessarily well
built, strong strikers. Every single one of those
strikers there so far would muscle off a defender.
They've got a great aerial presence, they're fast and
they're good at finishing. That's all you need.
Absolutely. Back to Jonesy and his whiffers.
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Who have you got, mate? Yeah, this.
Is whiffers all right? We all know my #2 I'm wearing
the shirt. That's Ingress.
Solinsky. Just because he was.
He was the first Italian to playin the Premier League.
Come on. Yeah.
You think, you know, there's Saturdays and Sundays when we
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used to watch Football Italia. It was a different world back
then. Football Italia, How, how much
did you put that on? This is this is class.
Yeah, incredible. Yeah, just yeah.
The movie colours, Channel 4 logo, the ball bouncing off it.
It was like a Super League, wasn't it?
Because of the players they had back then, you thought any
player that come across would bean instant hit, but it just
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didn't happen. So he's considered a flop after
his unsuccessful spell. So yeah, as I said, he was the
first Italian spy in the PremierLeague, £1.8 million signing
from Torino, but failed to scorein 12 league appearances Forest
and after a loan spell was sent packing back to Syria and never
returned to Forest. Whenever I see so, oh, just off
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the back of this, if I see a striker performing in Syria,
right, And I say I'd love to watch him in the Premier League,
Transfer deadline day comes, he signs he's at your club, right?
I want him to start from day one.
But nowadays that doesn't happen, does it?
And the reason is the manager then goes, he's not match ready,
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he's not match fit. Hang on a minute.
He's played in the Italian league.
He should be ready for the Premier League.
But I'm saying that as a fan. But Can you imagine being in
Andrea Selenzi's shoes here, right?
Who did he play for before Forest?
Sorry, Torino. Torino so in the 9394 season he
finished with seventeen goals, so he was in the top scorers
list. So you would automatically
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assume to just go straight into the Premier League guns blazing.
But it must be so hard for a striker to like get straight in,
to be a successful striker and from another country and to go
straight into the Premier League.
Because I wouldn't have said that the time he signed for
Nottingham Forest. I don't think the Premier League
was at its peak then. It wasn't like the.
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Last five 9596, so yeah, so for Torino, so he spear attacked the
spearheaded the attacking trio of Enzo Franziguoli and a young
Bonito Carboni. So they were the main man at
Torino. So his impressive form gave him
got him a call up to the Italy national team in 1994.
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So he got a call up to Italy. So Wednesday signed Carboni that
season. Yeah. 9596 So we So the Premier
League pretty much drained Torino then.
I think so. So he's looking back on it.
Yeah. So.
So some sources suggest he was wrongly positioned as a
replacement for Stan Collymore and that burden of the pressure
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and also of being in the Italian, the first Italian in
the league. So I put a bit of pressure on
him as well. I.
Can't imagine how hard that musthave been though to like fill
someone's shoes and go right. You need to score now.
Yeah, yeah, come on mate. But I remember his poster in
Shooter Match magazine, a bit like that stick of his big head.
And you're like, oh, look at that hairstyle.
And you're like, oh, this guy's going to be good.
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It's like unveiling like a handsome Italian man in amongst
the English public. He's like, no, he's got to be a
good striker. Look at his hair like Genola.
And then like, it's like, oh, get rid of him.
Send him back in. He's not good enough.
Yeah. So looking at this so his style
of play, so since he was a tall old fashioned centre forward,
you wouldn't think it would you?You good?
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Shame. More shame?
No. Shame.
There you go. All right, let's get back to
your sticker book. Drum roll, there we go #1.
The Iceman. Dirty Den.
Dennis Bergkamp. I can't tell you how much I love
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this man. I just think he changed football
for me. Yeah, other than Chris Waddow,
he's up there with one of my icons of football as a kid.
I just think his brain, his prowess, his intelligence on the
ball, he was incredible. Didn't have the start that
Arsenal fans wanted, but by God did he catch up.
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Like if I'm talking about DennisBergkamp in the 90s, not only
did he score some of the greatest goals I've ever seen,
he's probably given me the best memories of 90s goals.
I mean, his goal against Argentina in France 98 was,
which still gives me goosebumps.Now off.
Yeah, His hat trick at Philbert St for Arsenal against
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Leicester. Incredible.
His goal at Roker Park against Sunderland, where he turns
around and covers his mouth because he doesn't really
realise. I mean, if you look at Steven
Hughes and Paul Merson, when they go up to celebrate with
him, they're like, what the hellhas this man just done?
Because if you want to win Woody's heart, you've got to
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curl it and get it caught in thestanchion.
Yeah, like any goals scored likethat in the Premier League just
just makes me tingle, right? And so, and yeah, no, kind of,
yeah. It's just, I just remember when
they signed him and it just didn't, it didn't start out
well. The Firm did it.
You know, he was considered a flop even in Italy as well, I
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don't think. I mean he won the UEFA Cup and
stuff but it wasn't considered. Well, so a.
Success was he. No 52 appearances for Inter
Milan. Only eleven goals, I mean.
See, that's what it it didn't take.
He didn't take to Syria, did he?Scored twice against Norwich
though. Didn't he gas?
Didn't he gas? Did he guess?
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7.5 million so yeah, he come with a heavy price tag yeah.
Bruce Riock. So that's Bruce Riock's little
gift. We did mention this in the
Foreign Legion. Obviously he scored his first
goal against Southampton in September of that season.
So 7.5 million price tag asked. The fans are like, come on, Dan.
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Dirty Dan. Get a goal.
He scored a great goal at Highbury and then he just took
off from there. 315 appearances,87 Premier League goals.
How many assists do you reckon Dennis Berkham had in the
Premier League? I I do it, I wouldn't know where
to start. Surprise me going. 96.
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Wow. So he's just, he's everything to
me. I don't want to cry live on air,
Jonesy. So I just, I want to tell you
how beautiful this man is. He's just an effortlessly
glorious footballer. And I would probably put him up
there in some of the do you knowwhat, right.
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I'm closing my binder. Oh, I'm going to say Dennis
Bergkamp is probably the great one of the greatest footballers
of all time. I'd agree with that.
He's going to be up there. I have to.
I just enjoyed watching him so much.
How is he in? We saw, I think I shared the
other day and I they, I don't even know where it is now.
(45:58):
The 100 greatest Premier League players Where does he come in
those kind of lists? He's up there in the top 10,
isn't he? But I just don't think he's kind
of appreciated enough. I know, I know.
He is amongst Arsenal fans and Dutch fans.
It's just no, this is bullshit. Let's go back to this, Woody.
Sorry. We're going to pick the fullest
out, all right? Nah, Nah, because it's rubbish,
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right? Go on all.
Right, so 4/4 twos hundred Premier League players of all
time. Where do you reckon he comes?
Where does he come? If he's not in the top ten,
that's disgraceful. Right.
This is where I call out a bullshit list, right?
And I don't know who made this list.
Could be controversial, right? So Dennis Bergkamp came 23rd.
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Do you know who was higher than him?
Oh, don't offend me mate. Rio Ferdinand.
Are you kidding me? No, this is where I'm saying
this is bullshit. This right.
And then they shouldn't if you're going to have a list,
right? Separate them because I don't
know how goalkeepers can be higher than strikers, because it
doesn't. No, actually Kohl's been put in
higher than Burkham. Wow, wow, wow, wow.
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Yeah, all right, sorry for the rant, but yeah, stuff like that.
No, that's, that's no, that's correct, mate.
I mean, you, you needed to do that.
Get off your chest. I mean, obviously you should be
there mate. Yeah, no, because it's just
whoever comes up with these lists.
Yeah, that's ridiculous. Shame on.
Me. Call me old fashioned, but why
is Steve Bruce at 99? Come on mate, you should be
higher than that. Steve Bruce at 99 again, a brick
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wall of a defender. Look at his nose.
Come on. He put his nose on the line.
99th. I could go through this list all
day, right? Joe Hart, 73 less 3rd and 76.
Wow, Jonesy, you, you need you need to cut an onion of a
whiffer for your next one to distract me from that absolute
(47:49):
blasphemy. Yeah, no, this is as I said.
Oh, this isn't on? I feel like I felt like taking
my headphones off right now. You have.
Ruined my day with that list. Because it's just like, you
know, Gary Neville, 48. How's Yeah.
Gary Neville. Yeah.
No, we can't. Go on.
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Appearances Jen Francozola 51, Ian Wright 50.
Wow, wow, wow, wow. Don't tell me Carlos Tevez is in
the top 10. Didn't seem to be honest.
Is he there? No, I don't think so.
Brett Friedel, 65. Yeah, 66.
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Give me the top 10. Right, we'll start from #10
Frank Lampard. OK. #9 Roy Keane, Harry Kane #7
Eric Canson are #6. Of all time.
Yeah, 100 players, Top 100 Premier League players of all
time. All right #7 about Kevin de
Bruyner. Sorry, Karen.
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Yeah. So #7 Eric Cantona #6, Kevin de
bourneau #5, Mohamed IK Salah #4, Alan Shearer #3 Wayne Rooney
#2 Cristiano Ronaldo #1 Tiara Reid.
It's Tara Reid. I can see.
Yeah, yeah. I don't think we saw the best of
Cristiano Ronaldo. I was going to say that his best
years were at Madrid, weren't they?
Yeah, I think they just wow. How would they put this list
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together? I don't know.
Interesting. You probably need to cover this
off. Oh mate, it's an angry episode.
Simmering. I'm simmering right now.
Move. Kyle Walker, 45 Come on, I'm
just going to. I am like a hot saucepan of new
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potatoes right now, Jonesy. I'm a boiling point.
All right, move on. All right, OK.
All right. It's my last one, isn't it?
Yeah, it is. All right, so people are going
to be going. This is a strange one.
OK, it's a strange one. I'll explain why.
All right, so straight. It's the first one.
Recognise him, Stefan Givarch. Remember him?
(49:59):
Yeah, Givarch, Yeah. Yeah, so everyone's go, why, why
have you put Stefan givage #1 I'll tell you.
Right, so. So Newcastle signed him in 1998,
so he's considered a flop because he only lasted four
games and scoring one goal. The reason I put him in there
because he played in the World Cup final against Brazil.
He was their leading. Striker.
(50:19):
Yeah, so This is why I was saying so Newcastle boredom
after the on the back of the World Cup ninety 1998.
So he's a World Cup. Yep.
So he won the World Cup. There you go.
But he was just trash. He was, you know, four games.
He only got lasted he got bootedout the same season as well.
I think he's good on his debut against the Liverpool, but he's
(50:42):
even been labelled the worst ever Premier League forward.
Really. Yeah.
I mean, scoring on your debut isgreat, but if you don't back it
up with consistency, you've forgotten, aren't you?
He was just, as I said, yeah, I think he played in every game at
the World Cup. He was that number 9.
Yeah, I remember the name. I just, I don't remember him
(51:04):
playing for Newcastle. So it could be, yeah.
So I think he was signed by Uncle Kenny Douglasch, but
obviously he Lambda came in. So that could have helped us.
You know, he could have short lived his career as well.
But yeah, when you appeared in four games and just yeah.
(51:27):
Would you say this is a dark time for Newcastle this season?
Because I know, I know, they made an FA Cup final and they
were in the Champions League. But.
It was a differentable transition and wasn't it from?
Kagan. Dalglish.
Then it was just like a fire sale, the Dalglish, you know,
getting rid of Genoa Herdinand and just signing, obviously, Ian
(51:48):
Rush, John Barnes. Is this the same season as John
Dal Thomason as well because it's the same kit or was this
the year after or year before? So I think.
John Dal Thomason was 9798, thisis 98 after World Cup, but then
he went to Rangers, I think won the travel, so it can't be that
bad for him. Well, Givash went to Rangers.
(52:11):
Yeah. Wow, OK doesn't it goes to Joe
isn't it? Premier League game for
everyone, boy. Even even Rangers, it was only
what, 14 games? Wow.
Yeah, he didn't. He won the Scottish League, he
won the league and he won the League Cup, OK, all all in the
same season as well. So he started at Newcastle,
(52:32):
ended up at Rangers with a League Championship league medal
and then went back to Oxy. So he's quite prolific in
France, I think. Yeah, he won the Golden Boot
after, yeah. So I don't know.
Wow, wasn't so there you go. So does it show you?
Goes to show you could win the World Cup and still be a
stinker. Yeah, no, I agree mate, you go.
(52:54):
OK, have you got a? So let's go back to your one
now. OK, so your list.
There you go. Yeah.
Did you want to see mine? Yeah, go on.
All right, I deleted it. So I've been off memory now.
Sorry. I'm pretty sure, I think #5 I
(53:15):
had Andy Cole. Andy Cole was in my he was
actually in my top five. I took him out again.
Would I say he's an underrated Premier League striker?
No, I think he was very much appreciated, wasn't he?
I mean 34 goals in 40 matches for Newcastle though.
(53:37):
I think that's where I'm basing.It on just in 93.
Yeah. Wow, yeah.
Yeah, so I've gone. Yeah.
So #5 I think when Andy Cole #4 I think I went Les Ferdinand.
Well done. Yeah #3 I think I put Ian right
as well #2 the man behind me, Robbie Fowler.
(54:00):
What's going on mate? I do, you know, I just for some
reason he is very, he was a great striker, A poacher.
I just don't think he embodied the the classic Premier League
striker in my opinion. Yeah.
I just think he had too much of an attitude.
He wasn't like a get your head down, be a model professional
(54:22):
like these guys like Les and Ted, but let's Ted and Allen,
you know? Ted and Allen, so he was my
number 2 and #1 was Alan Shearer.
I don't know, but for me, as I said, I mean Dennis Bergkamp's
your only foreign striker there.But what I think of strikers in
the 90s, I think of English strikers, which is complete
(54:45):
opposite to modern day Premier League now.
Reel off some strikers Jonesy whilst you're there mate, some
Premier League strikers to your memory.
So this is your kind of this is your life read book.
Tell me some strikers you think.Well, we had a chat before we
heard about Michael Owen. Is he there?
Does he get? Does he get there much?
(55:06):
He's not very well loved, is he?No, I just, I don't think he
kicked off, but he did. I'm sorry, that's stupid.
He did kick off. Yeah, he's but.
I always think of him as a late late 90s but then you look at it
and it's like his first proper season. 979836 games, Premier
(55:28):
League, eighteen goals. He was the Golden Boot.
Same at the next season as well.With Dionne Dublin.
Yeah, Chris Sutton I think as well.
Chris Sutton's another one as well.
Yeah, Chris Sutton was on my list.
Yeah, Dwight York, I. Think Dwight York.
Yeah, do. You think his bill of days gets
overlooked? Yeah.
(55:51):
I didn't realise he was a villa for so long as well.
Like, yeah. That's what's forgotten in my
opinion. Yeah, I've got Dean Saunders
date. Dean Saunders I I put down as a
a classic Premier League strikerfor Aston Villa.
Yeah. I've got David Hurst and I think
(56:14):
he's and again, he's the reason why he's on the background for
me. Guys, by the way, I've got the
9395 away shirt with David Hurston.
I just, I think without injurieshe would have been a top Premier
League striker. He was obviously on Man United
books or the Radar, sorry, not books, but he was a, again, I
(56:37):
put him in the category of Alan Shearer, Ian Wright, Les
Ferdinand, that poacher. His goals didn't have to be from
30 yards. He was just, you know, in the
box, getting in the thick of it with a defender.
I've got Mark Hughes, mate. What do you think from your
Welsh contingent? Yeah, I think he's another one.
(56:58):
He's probably, I think he's tarnished his career, but it's
one of those plays I reckon tarnish his career by his ship
management career. Where is it now, Carlisle?
Yeah, yeah. But he's still some he's got
some cracking goals and he's sparky. 292 Premier League
appearances and 64 goals. Yeah, now you got a.
(57:18):
Goal scoring talent because he was probably what more 80s
wasn't he for United? Yeah, 80s.
And we spoke about this before we went on air as well about
Eric Canson and Matt Leticia. I didn't know.
Did we consider them strikers ormidfielders?
I consider them midfielders. Yeah, I do.
I know Cantona was used as a striker, but later years it was
more kind of yeah. I think if you put the physiere
(57:42):
for for the tisier was more of that kind of free roaming
attacking midfielder. Yeah.
Like he scored from 30 yards andyou know, all those sort of
goals. I just don't think he was a
centre forward. Yeah, I think Alan Ball at
Southampton gave him that flexibility to do whatever he
(58:04):
wanted and that's why he had a great season.
You know, it was that freedom ofplay that they gave.
It wasn't a striker. Would you would you say the same
about Stan Collymore? Yeah, he wasn't with a cosy
Stan. My sister Stan's goals, apart
from that one against Newcastle,were just outside the box there.
(58:24):
That's kind of when I think of Stan Collymore.
Think of him just the one against United, Forest, one
against Sheffield, Sheffield Wednesday for Liverpool.
Outside the box, yeah. Don't think he'd use him as a
main striker, would you? No.
What about Niall Quinn? Oh, I'll tell.
You what? I love that Niall Quinn, Paul
(58:45):
Paul Paul Walsh Partnership little large.
Yeah, again, he he worked well with Kevin Phillips in the late
90s for Sunderland. You know, he was a again,
another striker that just just did a job, went under the radar.
Tony Cotty, Jamesy. Tony Cotty?
Yeah. Are you a striker?
(59:05):
I remember. It's looking back at it and I
didn't realise for the first twoseasons how many goals he
scored. Dean Holsworth, remember?
Dean Holsworth for women, Yeah. Well done, season.
You know what? Yeah.
Incredible. The first season he scored
nineteen goals in 34 games, the second season, 17.
And then it just needs to peak off.
But he was, yeah. Yeah, no Dion.
(59:26):
Dublin. Oh, I love Dion Dublin.
Gian Franco Zola. Was Zola more a striker or what
do you point him as? Again, I've put question mark
under Zola because he was a bit of a winger.
And did have been Maestro. Yeah, a bit of an all, an all
all over the place. I'm going to mention Jurgen
Klinsmann, and I only want to mention him very briefly because
(59:50):
I think he gets talked about toomuch as a Premier League great.
He had a great season but he didn't, you know, he didn't set
the world alike in English football, in my opinion.
I do, you know when he signed, So yeah, going back to that.
So yeah, his first season he scored twenty goals.
(01:00:13):
Yeah. Then he comes back on loan in
90s. Ninety 798 for Spurs.
Had it? Yeah.
It wasn't the same. He scored nine goals.
I think he scored a hat trick orsomething.
Four goals he scored. I know.
I bet it wasn't the same, was it?
It wasn't the same Klinsmann. Nope.
But yeah, I I wouldn't put them on my list to be honest.
(01:00:37):
It's a bit weird, isn't it? It's like a kind of, I think
just people used his kind of fame from the 90s, Germany,
Bayern Munich, Syria, then thought I play in the Premier
League, amazing. I'm, I'm looking at like the
reason why I chose who I chose is because they lasted a lot of
Premier League seasons and they were consistently good
(01:00:59):
performers in any club they represented.
Yeah. You know, and I think that's,
that's a striker to me. Yeah, and all right, so.
You know. So I've just added two to my
kind of list. I didn't make just just names.
Probably people forgotten, but do you remember?
Do you remember Brett? Angel Yeah.
(01:01:24):
Oh my God. So he got signed by Mike Walker
for 500,000 and then he had major surgery on his leg and he
just couldn't get to his full potential.
Only one goal in 19 games. He's a bit of a bruiser, didn't
he, though? He was a bit of a sort of like.
AI like I like this way forward.I like this one from Neville
(01:01:46):
Southall. He's so big.
Nevada said the step up for the Premier League was probably too
much from he had the first touchlike a tackle.
Yeah, so great, Angel. Yeah, and my last one as well.
Probably Hammers fans would probably know this one.
Here we go. Remember this guy Samasu Abu?
(01:02:09):
Abu Yeah, I was going to say. Yeah, so he's not considered a
flop by no West Ham, but he's considered a bit of a cult
figure. Yeah, I think he was known for
his memorable own goal miss. But I saw this quote, which I
found funny. He asked one time, I think it
was the last day of the season, why West Ham fans Boo him.
(01:02:32):
And a teammate, a teammate replied, sort of saying no.
They say Abu. And then from that moment he
always had a big smile in his face when he heard a Boo.
And then he went after that. He got released to Ipswich Town
and he scored once against Sheffield United.
There you go. Good old Abu.
(01:02:55):
Yeah, well done, mate. Strikers, stinkers.
Good ones. You know what, if we did this
list again, we my list would be different.
As I said, I've crossed out. You've got crossed out.
But as I said, it's a good episode to do.
Yeah, Jonesy, I want to be challenged here.
Anyone thinks I've not put anything in the top five that I
(01:03:18):
should have or any stinkers thatyou think Jonesy should have put
in his top five, tell us becausewe want to know.
And it was a tough call for us. But we have to do that list at
the end to kind of recognise because it's not just about
scoring goals to be a good striker.
You know, it's the Nile Quinns of the Premier League to hold it
up that do a job. And I think I've probably met
(01:03:40):
this quite a few times on the pod.
My quote for today if I could domy Elmo Sesame Street moment, my
quote of the pod is to do a job to.
Do a job. Oh love it.
I'm. Still, I'm still reeling from
that 442 list, but we'll cover it off on another pod Jonesy,
shall we? We.
(01:04:00):
Will mate. Yeah, absolutely.
I'd love to. I'd love to cover the Premier
League Hall of Fame as well to cover that.
Episode that was in options. And the house don't.
Yeah, something doesn't sit right with me, but there are.
We can chat about that another time.
Yeah, what do we want from our listeners now, James?
We want a bit of a revival of previous episodes gone by, don't
(01:04:23):
we? Yeah, we were chatting about
mailbag memories. I need to bring that back.
Yeah. Sorry if you have any questions,
anything, any controversial. If you've got 100, I actually
don't do 100. I'm not reading 100 players out.
If you've got a top five, top ten, which you want us to read
out as well or anything, Yeah, let us know and I'll bring back
(01:04:47):
the Mail Back Memories segment. Yeah, great show.
Yeah, yeah, cool mate, brilliantmate.
Thank you ever so much again forthe the edits and the graphics
etcetera. If if you would like to
obviously see more of Jonesy's delightful artwork or on his
page because Jonesy has now become the king of would you say
(01:05:10):
catalogue football now Jonesy. I'm obsessed.
Talk to us, give us a little brief insight into your page
mate. Come on.
Yes, but I think the old 90s catalogue has taken over.
I am going to bring back some ofmy original material but I just
keep finding gold. Yeah, you do.
Quizar I'm a big yeah, I'm a bigfan of adverts and things like
(01:05:32):
that, so if I could find little adverts and stuff like that I'll
share them on. But that typifies nostalgia,
though, doesn't it, Jonesy? Those, those catalogues and
those boots and the gloves and you know, the kit.
The comments I'm getting as wellof what memories, you know, it's
brought back to people, I think that's what you know, that's
what it's all about. The one you did yesterday of
(01:05:54):
Duncan Ferg, not Duncan Ferguson, Ally McCoist in the
Scotland kit and all of the pictures, oh, just the pictures
of the kit. So I did that bit of a number I
love in yesterday, wasn't it? Yeah.
Yeah, but no, it's good. And hopefully find some more.
But yeah, I'm at football. Joindy, where are you?
(01:06:16):
I'm Woody W 1988 so I like to doall anything kind of Premier
League, Sheffield Wednesday, mainly the.
New new kids lately are there, aren't you?
Yeah, yeah, I've got a few new kits coming up which that's too
good to miss. But if you do want to buy
(01:06:37):
yourself a new kit or an old kitor anything glorious in between,
we do have a Premier League podcast code for classic
football shirts, don't we Jamesy?
Absolutely. I think you just got to go to
your go to the cart when you go check out enter PL pod 10 and
(01:06:59):
you get 10% off. We've had a few thank yous as of
late, haven't we? A few people have used the
discount code which is nice to see you.
Absolutely. Yeah.
Yeah, it's good. Making me very jealous of the
purchases. But that's OK.
I know. Yeah, yeah, Jonesy, thank you
ever so much, mate. I think we'll wrap it up from
here, but anything else you wantto speak to us about?
(01:07:19):
No, just keep liking sharing. Yeah, tell your neighbour about
the pods. Just put us out there to the
world. Yep, lovely.
Thanks mate. All right.
Thanks guys. Thanks for listening.
Bye, guys.
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