Episode 11 - The Shoe Fetish Slayer - Jerry Brudos

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media. This week we're going tocover Jerry Jerome, sorry Jerome, Jerry
Brutos. That name is Jerry fitshim, Jerome does not fit him.
Oak known as the shoe fetish Slayerand the lust Killer, which actually technically
he is a lust killer. Imean when you look at the you know

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categorizations of different types of killers.He's a lust killer, but he's also
called the lust killer because he didsome crazy, crazy things. He murdered
several women in the late sixties inthe Salem, Oregon area, like a

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suburb of Salem. But yeah,I think I know a couple he kind
of drove away from, you know, to give but yeah, mostly Salem.
So we're going to cull those creepykids and we'll be right back.
Feet. Jerome Henry Brutos was aserial killer and necrophile who murdered several women

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in the late sixties in Salem,Oregon. He was also on a feeble
phile. Was that somebody who likesdead feet? No, he was that
too, but he had someone wholikes children in the post puberty age fifteen
sixteen years old, I believe.Yeah, he was also a retificed someone

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who likes feet. It's named aftera dead French guy. Would you care
to say his name because I'm notgoing to bed. It's Nicola. Yes.
He was also known as Reti dela Breton. He was a novelist
in the late seventeen early I thinkhe died in the early eighteen years.

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I mean, so this ship wasnamed after him. I think he liked
feet of course. I mean,you know it was France in the late
seventeen hundreds, so there were alot of crazy things going on there.
What so we know he was aserial murder who liked beat and well dead

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beat. But how did we getthere? I guess it's time for a
crime rewind. Okay, So,as we previously stated, Jerome Brutos,
who went by Jerry was a wasa serial killer. Um. He was
born in South Dakota around nineteen thirtynine and nineteen Yeah, I don't know

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why I said around her he wasborn last day of January nineteen thirty nine.
He seems maybe that's why he startedin January. Anyway, maybe his
mother he was he was the secondborn. He had an older brother.
His mother wanted a girl and shehated him for not being a girl.

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So because so you're you're a guy. Obviously I say that a lot.
But you're a guy. Yes,yes, I know that's a big thing,
especially back then for a dad tohave a son. First. So
I'm a seaman. Because everything thatwe read and watched said that she was
loved the first time. What wasit Larry. Yeah, like she just

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loved him and he was fucking perfect, but she disliked Jerry and wanted a
girl. So was she okay withLarry because that gave the dad the first
son or the male child. Imean, I know to you it didn't
matter, but like I know thatthat's a thing for some guys. They
want the son first, all right, whatever, So they moved around a

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lot. I believe the dad mayhave been an alcoholic, but he was
a tradesman of some sort and movedaround for work throughout the West Coast area.
Actually, I guess Oregon, California. Yeah, I mean, I'm
gonna say from the description of thewife and Jerry's mother, I probably would
have been alcoholic too. Well.I mean it was also pre World War

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two. I think we were stillfeeling the recession or the what was it,
the depression that was what in nineYeah, I mean I'm sure that
was still really real to them.I mean it's one day when Jerry's five
years old, he is at alandfill. Not real sure, it's nineteen

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forty four. Nazis are everywhere.It's the middle of World War two.
Everybody there's the Nazis scare. Whywould you let your kid play in a
landfill? Much a five year oldkid? I mean my guests. I
mean, because obviously it never tellswhere in relation to the house. This
was how you know? I guessit could be they live next to a

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junkyard whatever. I mean, maybehe's with Larry and they took a walk.
I mean, I don't know.Jerry finds a pair of I believe
they were described as patent leather highhills, these high heeled shoes he wore
home, which his mother freaked outabout. Which if she wanted a girl,

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I'm not real sure. I guessit was a gender role thing.
But she took the shoes from him, told him that was not appropriate or
whatever. I think she felt likemaybe he was mocking her. You know
you wanted a girl. Well,now I'm a g I He may have
said that. He might have saidthat. We don't know, obviously,
right, we have no way ofknowing. There was a very good chance

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he did. He told her hewould throw the shoes away, and he
didn't. He kept the shoes hidden, as young boys are apt to keep
things hidden from their parents. Lookingat you, son, Yeah, they
keep things hidden from their parents.He hides the shoes, but she finds
them. I guess she catches himwith him again or whatever. Yeah,

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she sees him with him, andshe looks out and burns them right in
front of him. So she burnsthem, and this is probably the start
of his actual problems. Had itbeen maybe he handled in a different way,
he might not have come out theway he did. I mean,
you know, you've got somebody he'syelling at shoes that it's wrong, and

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that's kind of like you know,I've said to you multiple times, you
know, in the eight thousand yearswe've been together. It's like when you
put a snicker bar on the tableuntil a kid that can't have it.
So now she's told him you can'thave these shoes. These shoes are bad.
So like you was wrong, Idon't want to be right. And
he wanted to shoes. I meanso because she made such a big deal

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about it. I mean, Ifully suspect if she had just let him
play with the shoes, he wouldhave gotten over it. I think it
sparked in his head. But thatdidn't happen. And here where you are?
Here? Who you are? HeA few years later, they moved
to California and he actually gets caughttrying to swipe teacher's shoes a pair of

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his teacher she's I mean, that'slike okay. So he gets caught and
the teacher gets angry, and ofcourse he gets embarrassed because you he got
caught trying to steal your teacher's shoes. Looking of freak are you kids?
And I mean it's not even likenow where people have started a whole discussion
about things like this. This isn'tlike the forties, the middle of the

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forties right where I'm sure back inthey probably still like mag two sensels.
It was a middle disorder, Imean right, Yeah, he went on
to totally completely bomb second grade.Um, I think he stayed sick the
whole freaking time the whole year.And um, if he was really sick,

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well it said that he had themeasles and sword the roats and swollen
glands. So I mean, Idon't know how you can fake the measles.
Now, the sworth roats you canprobably at least fake, but I
don't know how he could really fakethe measles. But did the school get
told that or don't you know?It could be a case of like,
oh, she's not he's not reallycrippled. Get up out of the wheelchairs,

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right, yeah, right, Yeah, I don't know. I mean,
like it never really says. Itjust says um and everything that I
read and heard that he uh,he just stayed sick that year. And
that's when he started complaining about theheadaches. He complained of migraine headaches so
bad that he lost sight at attimes his entire life. Right as a

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young prepubescent boy growing up. Theyyou know, they move a couple more
times, and he starts stealing girlsunderwear off of clotheslines. And see,
I mean, look as creepy asthat is, I still feel like that's
still almost normal behavior. I mean, it really is. That's what I'm
saying. Whatever, he wanted tosee him, and he wanted to touch

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him, and he knew he couldn'tdo it at home. I mean,
I'm not saying stealing is okay,I'm saying right that I don't feel like
that that even if he had adifferent way to obtain them, I'm sure
he was. Yeah, so heum all throughout his childhood. He and
Larry are I believe probably the whycan't you be, you know, compared

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like, why can't you be likeyour brother Larry kind of thing, And
he even at some points took thefall for Larry and Larry Larry became you
know, as he was like threeor four years older than the Jerry.
That's the Jerry Larry things killing mewith their dad's name Harry. I mean
really, I think it would.So you keep talking, I'm gone into

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that. So, um, he'snot mentioned a whole lot during any of
it. No, he's actually not. Believe he worked two, two or
three jobs at point, so hewasn't around a lot. But I would
like also, I mean, let'sface it, if being a single I
mean being raised by a single mom, I know that it's not a problem,

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but when that mother hates you aproblem, it would become a problem.
I mean I might not that mymom hate My mom loved me.
I mean, you know, no, but here's my but yes, right,
so then I can attest to beingwith a single mother who hates you,
and I know it's a problem.Right though I didn't grow up to
steal underwear. Thank god, mytidy whiteies are safe. So so he

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starts going through puberty and his overbearingmother, who quite possibly could be a
template for the mother from the Wall, shames him about anything having to do
with sex, and of course,like you said, you can't have the
snicker. Yeah, so not onlyis she shaming him, but he starts

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having like all kinds of fantasies,dark fantasies and shit, and he's like,
you know, I could totally capturea girl and force her to do
shit, And so he realizes helikes it. At this point, I
don't even know, you know,he's not talking to anybody about it,
so I guess nobody would realize it. So who's he got to talk to?

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And they move again yet again,So that can't be good for him.
He's probably not making any connections withanybody like friends, you know,
right, which I think is importantat that age. Maybe not to have
like best friends, but you know, people you could go to school and
at least be like feel comfortable withthere. If you're not feeling comfortable anywhere

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at all, you know, heprobably didn't ever fit in anywhere. So
yeah, they moved to Corvallis,Oregon, which I believe is just outside
of Salem, right, I'm notthe geography, sure, And he's studying,
he becomes really intensely and enthralled withelectronics and just he does excel with

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that, right, but not muchelse. And he does continue his his
habit of stealing women's shoes and undergarmentsoff of clotheslines. I get in the
can you even imagine if he islike live now, because like undergarments back
down, you can like order Japaneseundergarments online, I believe. I mean,
I'm just saying though, if hewas like digging undergarments back then,

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now they're all like hardly there,but right then they were like dust.
Yea. So he's stealing the clotheslineunderwear and using them as a tossing agent.
I guess we could call it aslong as you don't bring salad into
it. And but then pretty soonthat doesn't do it for him anymore.

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So he decides he's going to gethis neighbor. See I want to know
how close of a neighbor she was. I'm just curious because that would have
to be awkward. But anyway,he gets his neighbor to come over and
he's like, hold on, holdon a second, you know, I
think he tells she's one of theones who's whose undergarments have gone missing,
and he says, I think Ican help you get them return earned and

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brings her to his house if Iwas her, and he steps out of
the room. Yeah, I know. He leaves the room, and he
makes some reasons why to leave theroom, and then all of a sudden,
Yeah, so the mask man comesin and Uh is like yeah,

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so he takes pictures of her andthen totally not Jerry right, yeah,
literally, I'm this is what isthe what is the Wizard of as say?
Pay no attention to the man behindit? So like he the mask
man leaves and then after forcing herto take her clothes off and take pictures.
Yeah, he takes several pictures,and then Jerry comes back and he's

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like, oh my god, whathappened? I was locked in the bar
and this mask guy locks me inthe barn. It's almost like the whole
like, hold on, Commissioner,I'll get Batman for you, okay,
Bruce, Yeah, I mean hewalks out of the room. Bruce passed
me in the hall and told meto come in here. So he comes

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in and says, oh, helocked me in the barn. Yeah,
what happened? Yeah, And she'slike, fucked it and she leaves.
Yeah, but she does not tellthe police. Yeah. I guess she's
probably embarrassed. I mean I wouldbe to be. I mean if she
I was about to say, ifshe really bought the hole, I know
your ship's missing, I can helpyou get it back. And no,
it wasn't me that did it.Like, and you fail for that,

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like yeah. So he gets awaywith that, and it almost fuels him
to try more and more things.Well, I mean, wouldn't it fuel
I mean, it would fuel anybody. And I guess it's one of those.
Yeah, I did it. Igot away with it, and and
so let's try this, Let's seehow much further I can go. So

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the next year, nineteen fifty six, he lures a girl into his car
and drove her to a deserted farmhouse. I guess I was a little off
of the road, I would think, But it also said in both things
that I read that the people weredriving by, right, I don't know

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what I'm saying, So you wouldthink it would be a little off the
road. And he attacks this girl. He drives her to the deserted farmhouse
and attacks her. But while he'sdoing this. A couple drives by and
I guess they see his car maybeand get out and go, what's going
on there? We know that's oldJohn's barney, you know, you know
he died two years ago. Letme think about where we live. If
people drive by and they see stuffgoing out, you know, right,

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they know who I'm using air quotescurrently, people know who's supposed to be
in whose yard and why that vehicleis there, and right, so they're
like, what's going on? He'slike someone attacked her and I was saving
her and they're like, yeah,okay, yeah, Well, and so
it says they wouldn't call the police, and I honestly am so technology sport

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at this point. It took mea second to realize, what do you
mean you went and called the police? Because why didn't use to pull out
your phone? But this is likenineteen fifty six and they probably had to,
like go to the police. Imean, so they go to Jerry
and they they they they question himand eventually he confesses. But they find
all kinds of things in his house, undergarments that you know, just like

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like I guess his stash and photosand and photography equipment, you know,
cameras, and I thought they foundand on the photos they find pictures of
the neighbor girl. So they goto her and they ask her and she
finally tells them, yeah, thisis what happened, and they commit him

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to the state mental institution. SoI'm wondering, I mean, now,
we have laws against having pictures ofair quote children, And I'm not saying
she wouldn't have children a feeble five, right, but I'm saying, like,
were their laws back then again sothat he couldn't they couldn't have charged
him with that. It's what I'masking. There was no child pornography laws
in the fifties. I mean,well no, I mean, I mean

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just asking because I mean, Iknow he got charged with the assault and
battery for the girl in the carthe farmhouse, but I just didn't know
what he could have been charged withfor her. So he was diagnosed initially
with an adjustment reaction of adolescence withsexual deviation, deviation and fetishism, which
could have covered a horny little boywho liked weird things that aren't normal,

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right, air quotes normal and outof this is the fifties. Pretty much
anything outside of man woman, manon top, woman on bottom. It
was actually probably sexual deviation. Imean there were probably laws, right,
figure, there's still laws here areSo he was he was there at the

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hospital, but was allowed to attendhigh school outside the hospital. Like,
we know you're a sexual deviant,and we know that you're telling your psychiatrist
that you want to imprison girls forsex in sex holes in the ground.
Yeah, but they're to school here. We're gonna let you out during the
day. We want you to goto school, come back, and come
back. We trust you. Jerry. He does that, and he graduates

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in like the lower like third ofhis class or something. But I mean
he's also going home to the statemental institution every night. Okay, So
can you imagine that? Because inone of the documentaries I watched, it
said that it was the actual onethat one blew a Ver Cuckoo's Nest was
based on, right, it was. Yeah, so it was like Shittown

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crazytown, and like, so canyou imagine going to school and then going
back and maybe trying to do homeworkor have a normal well, I'm gonna
say normal life, but I meanyou know what I'm saying, Like,
how are you going to study?When you got somebody over in the corner.
So he's screaming. He did graduatehigh school while in the state Mental
Institution and started um some advanced technicalcollege classes at Oregon State University and a

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local vocational technical school in Salem.Um. He just didn't he didn't really
care much for schooling, and eventuallyhe just said, screw it, I'm
going to army because see, Imean, you go to the army and
they're going to train you for Imean. And he does go on to
do um electronics in the army,does he not? Right? Yeah,

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so I mean, so screw school. But then you have school in the
army. I'm so confused, butit was it was electronic school, so
it was it was something interesting tohim, I'm guessing. But he was
in the technical vocational school for school. Right, So he's in the army
and he, surprise, doesn't makeit very far because of his sexual deviant

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thing. King in nineteen late fifties. Yeah, well, he's told the
sarcos the psychiatrist that he was havinga dream about a Korean girl who seduced
him. This is the height ofthe Korean War. Well, so he
was obviously saying I don't think Ican make it out there. The Korean
women are gonna seduce me. Sohe gets the whatever that was a crazy

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discharge? Is? I mean that'sliterally what it is. I mean,
because of his air quote bizarre obsessions. My ex husband has a crazy discharge
as you call it literally is?I mean it says it with homicidal tendency.
So he gets he gets out ofthe army, uh for f or
whatever they call it, I guess, and moves back home, well not

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really back home. He moves backto the shed behind the behind the home
can you even imagine? And he'sthere, you, twenty one year old
living in his parents garage, andhis obsessions are obviously still going on.

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One night, he follows a girlfrom a store, follows her home,
and strangles her until she's unconscious,like slaps her in a sleeper hold,
and steals her shoes. You knowabout the sleeper holds. Yeah, so

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he took the shoes home and probablyuse them again as a tossing agent.
I just mean them, Let's see, I'm wondering. Okay, So this
goes back to my whole Edmund Kimberargument. He was pretty much forced to
go back and lose his mother,Like is that what pushed him? Okay,

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so it's around he's around twenty onein nineteen sixty and he finally gets
FEC license and gets a job ata radio station. And so while he's
there he meets a DJ. Yes, I can't see him like being the
big bopper or whatever. Um.So while he's there, he actually meets
his future wife, who some peoplehave referred to as Darcy and some people

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have referred to as was it RalphineRalphine I'm gonna go with if my fucking
name was Ralphine, I would goby Darcy too. Um. I'm I'm
confused. I'm really not sure,like I said, but everywhere else,
even in the court, um tocall her Darcy. So I'm going to
call her Darcy because she was fiveyears younger than him. He was twenty

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two at the time and she wasseventeen. Uh. Darcy's parents were like
no, no, man, Well, I mean I can imagine I would
be that same way as well youwere that same way. So um And
of course, because we're going backto the snickerbar thing, you know,
they're like, no, Darcy andshe's like yes, mom, yes,

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Dad, and within a few monthsthey get married and a few months later
their daughter Meghan is born, andfrom here until about this is like nineteen
exty two, they just moved upand now on the coast. I mean,
that's what he was used to,and it might have made him feel
better to not stick in one's butyou know, I mean he knows,

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but they he gets, you know, different jobs. He's always in electronics
in some shape form or fashion.And he finally chills in Portland and gets
a job as an actual electrician.And in nineteen sixty seven, his wife
Darcy gets pregnant again. And wewere talking about this. This is nineteen
sixty seven, so I didn't evenknow that this was a thing back then.

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But he got sad, saddened,he got rejected. He told she
told him, you can't be inthe birth ingroom. I mean, I
really thought this was the time oflike dad set out in the lobby smoking
cigarette. I mean, this mighthave been on the cusp of it,
though, because by the end youhad hippies and free love and fucking home

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births, and I don't know,maybe you didn't have home birth. But
like, I mean, if hewanted to be in there though. But
see this is also still in thepoint in time where wives went to bed
with their makeup on and got upafter the husband went to sleep and fucking
took their makeup off and then youknow, so they didn't never see them.
So she didn't want him to seethat. So whatever had been keeping

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the monstr at bay, I guessfor the past few years here what four
or five years with I guess Darcyjust unleashed. She told him, you
can't be in the birthing room andhe went back to the shoes and drawers.
Yea, yea. He followed awoman home one night and watched her

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going to her house, waited forher asleep, and broke into steelers shoes
but she woke up, right,So, I mean, I think this
is the first actual rape or heI mean he might have tried to do
it in the barn and obviously hegot buzted, but there was nobody to
to save this person and he rapesher and steals her child. Yeah,

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so they can't be fighting like hedidn't want to fight a rape. He
didn't want like a lively rape,so to speak, he wants which a
lot of rapists do. Yeah,that's what I'm saying, Like he didn't
like that's what a lot of themlike. He wants them, So he
slapped asleep or hold on her,raped her shoes and was like Deuce's Joe,
and he of course obviously didn't getcaught again. I mean, this

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is just killing me that well.I mean, I guess if you're asleep
and he woke up to somebody stealingyour ship and then they checked you out,
he might not really remember him.But that really weird guy. You
know. I don't know that thisreally took a bearing in the story,
but supposedly, while he was workingas an electrician, he took a fairly
large shock. It's like, yeah, that's about four times what you have

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in your house, um, twicewhat you put on a washer or what
is it a dryer? A dryerdry that's just two two one one ten's
joined. Yeah, so I thinkof two dryer plugs joined together. And
so he took a Yeah, hetook a fairly fairly, fairly damaging shock.

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I would think, please don't letme, but it was shocking,
and uh, he didn't. Hedidn't go to the hospital or anything,
but he How the fuck do younot get the fuck dude. If I
mean, if if I tell youthe drying, it's not grounded. I'm
about I mean, this is likeJason Morhe shit, like you can look,

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you just keep going. I mean, so January of the next year,
nineteen sixty eight, near the endof January old Nicky T's birthday not
in nineteen sixty eight, but shewas born on January twenty six, right,
Okay, good, Yeah Nicky tis No I think I'm older than
her. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. So a girl comes door to door

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selling encyclopedias that used to be athing people. Did you carry all of
the encyclopedias? No, usually,I'm almost positive they carried like the first
volume or something, and you gotthat because for some reason, I mean
I vaguely or remember, people comein encyclopedias also had these things called yearbooks
that would come out every year.Is so, yeah, you're smarted your

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mouth off, and you had tofucking copy that ship down right, Go
copy page one thirty five to onethirty nine of nineteen seventy two yearbook in
that smell right book. Anyway,So a girl comes door to door selling
encyclopedias, which just think of itas like a hard copy of the Internet,

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a very heavy right, multiple volumes, and she's showing encyclopedias, and
he convinces her to the garage.Well, he tells her to go to
the garage, and I kind ofhave a theory on that. So he's
got the two kids in the background, I said, the background, but
you know, like in the house, and he was probably like, I'm

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never gonna be able to hear youtell me about this, so, like,
you know, see, I wasthinking something along the lines of like
how many volumes is it? Doyou think it would fit on a shelf?
Well, let me just show youthe shelf coming here. Maybe maybe
it was kind of a mix upboat, you know because like if I
mean, let's be real, we'vehad kids, so we know that,
you know, they can get assoon as you start doing something else,
they want to get in the midSo we get through to his workshop,

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which I believe is actually under thegarage. There's you know what, Okay,
he heads her in the back ofthe head with a piece of wood.
Not sure out I guess maybe he'swasn't feeling of the sleeper hold that
day. Yeah, I didn't thinkabout that and then he but then he
strangled her to death. I guesshe's throttled or probably probably Yeah, yeah,

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so he before he gets rid ofher body, he of course strips
her and um, you know,puts the undergarments in with his collection of
all the other undergarments. But I'msure these were special because he's actually came
off of the dead person and steadof off of a clothesline. Said,
he's probably he also tried on someof his undergarments he already had. Yeah,

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yeah, he puts them on quitea collection. He Yeah, he
tries them on her dead body.And I believe one of the things says
he sends the family out for fastfood at this point. Yeah, I
think so. So he sends themout for fast food and while they're gone,
he cuts off her left foot,right, it was more to him,

(33:05):
I'm guessing, yeah, it's like, okay, so I just killed
this girl. And what he goesinside and he's like, Darcy, Ralphine,
take the kids for whatever. He'slike, so they don't hear the
saw or whatever, and then hecuts off her foot. I want to
know what he cut it off with. I want to know if it no,
it was a hacksaw, and wedo know it was a hacksall and
puts it in a high heel shoeand puts it in the freezer. Well,

(33:29):
you know, you have to putit in here a while it's still
fresh because once rigor sets in,you're not getting it in that shoe,
right, But then you can,after it's rigor setting, you can get
it out of the shoe and getit on another shoe. So he tried
it on a lots of different shoes. I'm sure, and he I'm sorry,
I'm just gonna have a mental picture. Yeah, I'm sure there was
some tossing agent you said you goingon there? Plus this pour me his

(33:54):
heart and he puts them like hekeeps the body for a little bit and
then yeah, puts in the trunkof his cards. Yeah, he goes
to the bridge and he fakes aflight tire to like have a reason.
Well, I mean, how doyou fake a flight tire? What do
you do if somebody shows up?You just finished? Oh yeah, if
someone doesn't show up, then youkeep dumping the body within the trunk.

(34:20):
Wow, So he dumped her intoI'm not sure the name of the river.
I think it was like the lake. Tom No, No, it
was started with a w okay we'reold. Yeah. He dumped her into
over the bridge, doesn't matter,it's not really that boarded. He dumps,
he fakes flat tire, dumps hereof the bridge, and um goes
home. He goes home. Yeah, I guess. Wait sure his wife

(34:40):
and kids come back with his friesfucking weirdo. So like a couple of
months, well six months later,and he's never Actually I don't think they
refined this girl, and I don'tthink he's actually for sure leant to her.
But a girl named Stephanie Vico wasmissing. About a dozen girls go

(35:00):
missing during the time, and theysuspect that it's him, right, he
only, I believe, can heonly confess to four and they only found
three, and they only found evidenceon three of the four that he confessed
to. So that's July sixty eight, Stephanie Vico. Vico goes missing in

(35:21):
Portland, right, and then anotherdisappearance in November of that year. And
he loves November, so yeah,and he loves well, he loves the
twenty six apparently, and yeah,November twenty six of sixty eight, a
twenty three year old college student goesmissing from the University of Oregon Jan Susan

(35:42):
Whitney, Yes, and things arepretty quiet there. I guess, yeah,
it doesn't. And you know,I know that it's almost like he
has like or he's good for likethree or four months, four or five,
you just can't deal with Somewhere betweenfour and six months he's good,
Yeah, after he makes a kill. So that would be the textbook definition

(36:07):
of I mean his cooling off period, because he seems to go a few
months at a time. So inMarch of sixty nine, nineteen year old
Karen sprinklerg is missing. And Iguess eyewitnesses are like, dude, it
was a really large guy in dragthat was in the parking garage, right,
and it says she went. Shedisappeared on like the twenty She was

(36:30):
disappeared sometime between the twenty seventh andtwenty eight. I'm wondering if maybe she
disappeared late the twenty sixth. I'mjust I'm wondering too, because they were
all on the I mean most ofthem, more of them, like that's
when she was reported. No onesaw her on the twenty seventh, right,
Yeah, but so her car wasfound abandoned and on the same day
or on the day that she wentmissing. So, you know, we

(36:53):
we can only assume back then,I mean we all got to remember that.
Back then it was not like nowwhere you can be like, oh
so and says missing picking your phoneor do find my location? You know,
there was none of that when somebodywent missing back then, and you
had to hope that maybe they wentto somebody's house and they might get in
touch with you, you know later. So his wife, you know,

(37:15):
being five years younger than him,had until the birth of the at least
the birth of the second child.Yeah, had been instructed by Jerry to
only wear high hills nothing else aroundthe house, cook cleaning, cooking,
just period. Yeah, and shecould only come into certain areas of the

(37:37):
house after she got permission from him. Yes, she had a buzz right,
he had an intercom system like hisin his workshop or whatever with you.
I mean, that's not out ofthe way for the time period being
he was an electronics person. It'sa push button speaker system. Well not
only that, and I could actuallysee him getting away with this part of
it too, because I could hearhim saying Darcy Ralphine, don't let those

(38:00):
his in there. I've got myelectronic stuff out there, and not being
his excuse to not let anybody outthere. So when when the second child
was born, she decided to shedidn't want them to see mommy only wearing
high hills heels, high heels.My brother used to call him hill hush
yes and tells him no more.And that may have been what prompted the

(38:22):
whole you know, I mean Ican see that if if, if that's
what was stopping him from doing it, actually seeing her dre you know,
and he would take pictures of herwhile she went about her day or whatever.
But okay, so that happened inMarch twenty seventh when Karen Sprinkler went
and went missing right middle of March, the end of March. It's almost

(38:44):
like it's taking less his cooling offperiods getting to be less because in about
a month later in April, heat Portland State University. He likes some
parking. He does like a ina parking garage. I guess corners a
woman and attacks her. Yeah,she bit she bit his finger until it

(39:07):
bled, and she bit him toget away, and but he beat her
unconscious. He I mean he beather upright, She locked onto him like
a pit bull until she's like knockedout, still locked on his thumb.
But someone drives into the parking garageand he runs off. Right, Well,
I mean, you know it.And it goes on to say that

(39:29):
the police didn't connect it. Butwhy would they connect it? Because other
people didn't survive, there was nobodyto be like, this is what happened
to me, right, So,I mean, you know, they made
a big deal about the police connectingpolice failing to connect it, but I
mean, I don't see how theycould have really. So he didn't get
the girl in the parking garage.So the next day, April twenty second,

(39:52):
he goes after us a younger girl. I guess you thought maybe maybe
this one won't fight as much.And he goes out, you're a fourteen
year old Leanne Brumley, right,I mean she escapes, she escaped.
She I believe he was leading herto his car, and she calls out
and screams and runs for them,And I mean, what are you to

(40:13):
do? You can't chase them downand kill them right there on you know
Elm Street. Well, I guessyou can't you, Freddy, But I
was about to say, I meanthe lady that was in the yard probably,
I mean, doesn't she probably obviouslylater realized what she escaped, but
I mean he could have. Sostill no satisfaction. So on the next

(40:34):
day after that, Um, Lindadon Sallee. And it's been said like
eighty million different ways, so ifI'm saying it wrong, I'm sorry.
Yeah, it was said like everybodysaid it different. Sally, Yeah,
there was sale Sally Sally and therewas still another one. Anyways, she
goes missing and her car is foundin bump bump bump parking garage. Um,

(40:58):
and that's when they really lies.Now, hold on a minute.
The ship keeps happening in parking garages, right the parking two. Yeah,
he apparently posed as a police officeror a security guard, um to get
her. I believe that him.One of the docu dramas or whatever said
that he caught her buying she hadbought her boyfriend's in presence and caught her

(41:22):
outside. Was like hey, yeah, he was like, well, we've
had a lot of shoplifting recently.Let me check your receipts. You're gonna
need to come down and show yourreceipt, and he puts her in the
back of his car and drives herstraight to his house, straight to his
house, into the garage. Yeah. So a few weeks later and chokes
her out, Bryan kills her.Yeah. Um. We of course at

(41:43):
this point in in any of it, don't know all the grizzly details.
Um you know, Nope, it'sa hot mess. But a few weeks
later, um, in May Maytents actually, Um, Linda's body is
found in the Longtime River and herbody is way down by a transmission,
a car transmission, and so there'sthey're searching the area. They at this

(42:07):
point believe they do have a serialkiller. So they're searching the area and
they find carry Sprinkler's body and shewas tied to an engine. So I
guess an engine block maybe, soyeah, it just says an old engine.
But um, all all of themwere tied with what they called a
special knot or not. It wasa knot used to pull electrical water through

(42:32):
the wall. But at the timethey didn't realize it. Um, but
they kept saying that it was aspecial knot or They find Linda, say,
lead, he has cut her breastsoff and and placed a bra a
figure probably yeah, something big.You know, it's the late sixties at

(42:52):
this point. But those new brawlsdon't do it for him, I'm sure.
So he and fills out the brawith brown paper towels because there's no
breast there because he showed it inthe hole. Well, he also shoved
it in the hole too to likeI think he did it to also stop
some of the bleeding. So atthis point, um Jerry decides to start

(43:15):
calling dorm rooms in order to tryto get blind dates. So I'm really
he actually does get blind dates,so I guess it's a numbers game.
I mean, you know, Imean pick up lines work, So what
is it like? Oh? CanI speak to Cheryl? I there's no
cherryl here? I will, you'rethere? I mean is that like that?

(43:37):
I guess, Hey, what you'redoing? Maybe remember the breather on
Elvira's Yeah, and I'm my y'allcan't see my facial expression right now,
but I'm I am fucked up everywherebecause I just can't picture back. Then
he gets a couple of dates though, yeah, but nothing happens. They

(43:57):
only know about it because later onsome some women recognize the description that the
police give and go, hey,wait a minute, I just so he
he calls one of these girls backagain for another day, right, And

(44:19):
I really can't I can't see thecorrelation on how this jumped. I mean,
in anything I read, in anythingthat we saw, I don't see
the correlation. It says that theychecked his record, but he didn't have
anything on his record, so itsays other than the girl taking the pictures,
I'm sure that Oh yeah, nevermind, but that was so long
ago though, Like, so you'vebeen a model fucking citizen since then and

(44:42):
now all I mean maybe though maybethey were like so they decided to go
and do some follow up questioning,get his home and uh yeah, like
so you remember remember the special nut, Well, it was tied in a
rope that's just like one of theones hanging in Jerry's workshop. He almost
thinks he's so smart that he's likeputting it out there so they'll see it.

(45:04):
And then he notices one of thecops looking at the rope and he's
like, you want so the coptakes the rope and they make a comparison
match, and that they help Thathelps build their case. I mean,
I'm just wondering, like why hethought that was a good fucking idea.
I mean, did he not realizeI mean maybe not because back then,
I guess it wasn't talked about likeit is now, like what we're doing.

(45:28):
But I mean so, yeah,at the end of May, they
serving warrant for the abduction of thelittle girl. Yeah, she's like she
points him out. Yeah, andthey take him in for the interrogation,
and he calls his wife well beforebefore that. They actually try to kind

(45:49):
of run. They don't get veryfar, but they try to run.
He calls and tries to get hiswife to destroy evidence pretty much to Darcy
Ralphine get rid of them brought topanties in the garage. I needs you
to go out there and get ridof the feet in the free circle,
right, so right, what thefuck? I'm sorry, I mean,

(46:15):
I've seen how they think these phonecalls are going to go. He hangs
on for for a day and confessesy and they didn't even know about Linda
Slawson at all. So he confessesto the two bodies they found, um
Jan Whitney, no Linda Seal Ohyeah yeah, And then he confesses to

(46:36):
Linda, Linda Slee, and KarenSprinkler, but then goes on to say,
I also killed Linda Slawson and JaneWhitney. Yeah. Yeah. They
never find the body of Linda Slawson. Yeah, and I and I don't
know that it ever mentioned and findingWhitney, but I guess they had to
have. So he's uh, hepleads not guilty because the reason of insanity.

(47:00):
He says, I'm crazy. Imean, he got what he got
one time he got told he wascrazy and liquidly all right, so I
would try that too. So theychest him any shows he has, you
know, for a high average toabove average IQ, and uh, he's
deemed not currently insane. They theydiagnosed him of as having antisocial personality manifested

(47:24):
by these are all in nineteen sixtynine mental conditions manifested by fetishism, transvesticism,
exhibitionism, voyeurism, and especially sadism. Those are categories on all like

(47:45):
a plenty of fish now or somethingor I think probably I feel like they
are so yeah, So he's diagnosedas plenty of fish so I can't tell
you, right. So he's eventuallycharged with with three ounce because they do
have bodies on the Jen Whitney,England to Sele and Karen Sprinkler, or

(48:07):
I believe they have a pictures ofthat might have been in maybe they didn't
find they have pictures of Jen Whitney. When they go back as dead.
Yeah, when they go back andactually get to search warrant and actually fully
search the house, they find thepictures of the girls in various stages of
alive and dress dead after way afterdead. But it's all in his Kraftman

(48:30):
tool chest, like he was proudof them. They were they were taped
in them, the one officer said, or the detective said, But he
was not charged with the murder ofFlinda Slosson because her body wasn't and there
were their covers and there were nopictures of her amongst the belongings. Um
Also in some of the pictures wasthe picture that he put under the one

(48:53):
girl and caught his own dumb assface. He put a mirror so he
could photograph her undercarriage and was lookingdown into the mirror and snapped a picture
of himself in the edge of themirror that was under Sprinkler. Right as
we said, twelve women went missingin his area during the time that he

(49:19):
was free. They never found manyof the well any of the bodies that
they were able to connect to him. One neighbor, who it sounds really
fishy, said that that Ralphine,that Darcy Ralphine, that Darcy was was
helping him get rid of a bodyfrom the garage. And they arraigned her

(49:45):
and charged her with eating in ametting first or murder of Karen Sprinkler.
But how did they know it washard? I mean, like, did
they have Karen Sprinkler written on thebody bag they were carried? The time
frame? Man, that's all I'mgoing right, And she, of course,
please not guilty and says something withthe hell you're talking about and they
find her not guilty takes about aweek. They that's crazy, the whole

(50:10):
entire and whoever. And he sincehe spilled his guts, I feel like
if she helped, he would havebeen like so Darcy Ralphin helped. I
mean, he didn't hide anything.I mean once he got to talking.
So um. Jerry was sentenced tothree life terms, three life sentences because
there's no death penalty. They didn'thave the fourth body of that he confessed

(50:32):
right right, So they were justlike, we got you on threewhere,
and they don't have the death penaltyin organ so they gave him three life
life sentences. I would have seenobviously that was without parole, but nothing
ever said that. So soon afterhe goes to prison, I think it
may last a year, Darcy divorceshim, and I don't even think it

(50:52):
was a year, but and changestheir name and and gets a court order
forbidding the children from seeing our contactingor calling or writing their father. He
spends a pretty good rough time inprison. I think he probably gets used

(51:13):
as a tossing agent and got beatup. He got beat up and hurt
badly with other. It was listedas other yea. So he appealed and
lost, and I think his lastappeal was in in seventy seven. He'd

(51:36):
been in jail that point for foreight years. Oh okay, so he
actually did get um. He wentup for parole, so that would have
been without world in nineteen ninety nineafter being in prison for thirty years and
they said you're not getting paroled,and pretty much you're never getting paroled.
You do realize if he'd have beenin Texas around this time, well,

(52:00):
yeah, around this time was whenTexas who started letting people out. It
didn't matter what the fuck they did. They had that whole like letting people
out. They had the overcrowding thing. But he was in Oregon. No,
I know, he sat there untilhe died. Yes, he sat
there for thirty seven years. Hewas the longest He was the longest serving

(52:20):
prisoner in Oregon. He was inprison for longer than he was out of
prison. Total sad. Yeah,he died. He died in two thousand
and six of natural causes. Ibelieve he died of cancer. I want
to say I'm almost positive it wascancer, but let's not quite that right.
So he died of natural causes.I mean, he was sixty seven

(52:44):
years old. It's about time togo. I'll be going now, just
hanging this up. I'm done.I just I'm the whole cutting off people's
feet and keeping them. He's justreally weird. But that is why he
was known as the shoe fetish slayer. He was known as the less Killer

(53:05):
because of his I guess the lustfulnessof his acts. But but he wasn't
lusting after the human. He waslusting after the shoes, right. I
think I guess it was never reallyclear point. He wanted more to ripe
the human what they had to beunconscious. I think it was defeat because
even now in prison he's well.Even then, when he was alive,

(53:27):
he formed a library in his cell, a prison library, right, and
he had shoe catalogs. And yeah, so all right, guys, that's
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