That Makes Total Sense!

Welcome to That Makes Total Sense! A podcast about exploring God’s generosity and justice. I’m Alexis Busetti - a Christian aiming to ask good questions and encourage you to do the same. Every one of us is wired by God to live out generosity and justice, but sometimes the how eludes us. That Makes Total Sense! is a way for us to get together, posture ourselves as learners, and challenge one other to practice generosity and justice in a tangible way everyday.

Episodes

Episode 363 – David Dault

July 26, 2026 • 74 mins

It’s hard to describe this amazing conversation with David Dault or the book it was centered around, for that matter, The Accessorized Bible. One of the concepts David brings out, as a professor and someone who thinks about faith and the bible, a lot, is that we often make the bible into something it isn’t. … Continue reading

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Episode 362 – Scot McKnight & Adrienne Gibson

July 19, 2026 • 46 mins

The subject of trauma seems to be everywhere, and while this can be a good thing (it allows us to speak more freely and perhaps, feel more understood), it can also be challenging, especially in Christian communities where the subject has been misunderstood and often hidden (all the while potentially traumatizing events are happening with … Continue reading

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Episode 361 – Natalia Terfa

July 12, 2026 • 78 mins

There is something about Natalia Terfa‘s new book, It All Counts, that feels like coming home to me. It’s probably because, like many of us, for decades, I have been taught that being with God, experiencing the presence of the Holy Spirit, being a Christian must look a certain way. There’s a formula for how we go about … Continue reading

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Episode 360 – Andrew Whitehead (re-release!)

July 5, 2026 • 61 mins

This weekend, our nation turned 250 years old! For many, the celebration was not without complicated feelings. Yes, we are grateful, and we also grieve. So, we thought this would be the perfect time to re-release one of our favorite episodes that speaks to some of those complexities and how we can respond to them. … Continue reading

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Episode 359 – Scott Bessenecker

June 28, 2026 • 63 mins

Scott Bessenecker has been in Christian ministry for decades which puts him in a unique position to bring a critical eye to the way our religion is practiced. For many, church hurt is recent. It is something we have experienced personally, and for which are seeking healing urgently. Scott reminds, though, that while the injuries … Continue reading

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Episode 358 – Jon Ward (re-release!)

June 22, 2026 • 68 mins

Producer’s pick! With a fun-filled (and restful) Father’s Day weekend, my husband and producer, Seth, picked one of his favorite episodes to share again! This one with journalist, Jon Ward, is still as relevant today as it was when it originally aired in 2023 (and was the top-listened episode of that year!). Seth mentioned that … Continue reading

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Episode 357 – Varina Willse

June 14, 2026 • 74 mins

Oh my gosh! I had soooo much fun chatting with Varina for this episode! She wrote a book on prepositions and God, which is just so fabulous. Beneath and Between contains chapters featuring 15 different prepositions and how they can be used to describe our relationship to God. Highlights for me included flashbacks to the … Continue reading

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Episode 356 – Tiffany G. Townsend

June 8, 2026 • 63 mins

Talking with psychologist, Dr. Tiffany G. Townsend was truly a joy! One of the reasons I think I enjoyed it so much is because (by my own admission and maybe my husband’s observations, lol!) I can be a bit of a Debbie Downer sometimes. Meaning, when confronted with the realities of the world’s problems, it … Continue reading

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Episode 354 – MaryAnn McKibben Dana

May 31, 2026 • 71 mins

MaryAnn McKibben Dana gave me words, in this conversation and her new book Better Than Normal, that I have been searching for. When questions arise like – What makes this the standard? or How can I fit in here (or is that even necessary)? we sometimes don’t realize that we are actually questioning what is … Continue reading

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Episode 354 – Rose Marie Berger

May 24, 2026 • 68 mins

Editor of Sojourners magazine, Rose Marie Berger, sat down with me to talk about the magazine’s recent edited volume, Light for the Way (which is phenomenal, by the way!). This collection is compiled from essays published in the magazine over the decades and yet, it is amazing how many of them feel like they were … Continue reading

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Episode 353 – Adriel Booker

May 17, 2026 • 86 mins

I’m already intrigued by anyone who has a skydiving story (that will *never* be me!), and Adriel Booker’s is (literally) one for the books! She opens her fabulous volume, Tethered to Hope with a story of jumping from a plane, secured to an instructor in her early twenties and the harrowing moments that followed. The … Continue reading

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Episode 352 – Aimee Byrd (re-release!)

May 10, 2026 • 68 mins

This conversation with Aimee Byrd was personal and powerful for me. Even though it has not been easy, I am so grateful to Aimee for sharing her story of the abuse she suffered in the church circles she was a part of. Her newest book, Saving Face, is a beautiful reflection not only on what has happened to … Continue reading

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Episode 315 – Amar Peterman

May 4, 2026 • 67 mins

Have you ever heard a phrase that sticks with you? So much so, that you find yourself turning it over again and again in your mind, discovering its relevance to new situations in your life? Sometimes those brief sentences can have massive impact on how we think and interact with the world. Well, from my … Continue reading

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Episode 350 – Jared Stacy

April 27, 2026 • 77 mins

Author and scholar Jared Stacy joins me for this episode to talk about conspiracism and evangelicalism in the United States. Many of us have probably noticed that these two seem to walk hand in hand, but have we stopped to ask ourselves how they are connected and in what ways that connection might be true … Continue reading

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Episode 349 – Kelly Flanagan

April 19, 2026 • 76 mins

Third time’s a charm with psychologist, Dr. Kelly Flanagan! (Though the first two recordings with Kelly were amazing as well!) His newest book, The Road Less Triggered, is phenomenal. We talked a lot about how to have the posture of an open heart, especially at moments when we’re so tempted to close it off. This … Continue reading

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Episode 348 – L. Daniel Hawk

April 13, 2026 • 74 mins

Growing up in Oklahoma (read 12 years of public school history classes), you’d think I would have taken in droves of information about our nation’s history with Indigenous peoples. After all, Oklahoma has one of the highest populations of Native Americans in the U.S. and, if you understand some of the basic history, you’ll know … Continue reading

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Episode 347 – Amy Peeler (re-release!)

April 6, 2026 • 48 mins

Happy Easter! I hope you had a wonderful holiday weekend with you and yours. Since we took some time to rest and celebrate (new episode coming next week!), we thought we’d share this favorite again. Enjoy! To say I enjoyed this conversation *and the book it was centered on* is an understatement! Dr. Amy Peeler, … Continue reading

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Episode 346 – Sara Billups

March 29, 2026 • 62 mins

What a joy it is to welcome Sara Billups back to the podcast! We talked about a subject that is or has been near to each of us – anxiety. Sara has written a book that brings in her experiences with anxiety, as well as many of those of her family, and how they connect … Continue reading

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Episode 345 – Kristen Lee

March 22, 2026 • 58 mins

Kristen Lee‘s voice is such a gift! She an incredibly gifted author (and physician! – which we totally didn’t even touch on in this conversation), and I am so thrilled she has chosen to bring her experiences and research to us through her text, We Mend with Gold. She has written the book she wishes … Continue reading

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Episode 344 – Laura Baghdassarian Murray

March 15, 2026 • 64 mins

Talking with Laura Baghdassarian Murray was truly a delight! Even though the subject of this episode is hospitality, which is a topic that’s super familiar to me, our conversation took us through some territory that was a bit unexpected for me (that happens often when I talk to a spiritual director!). In this episode we … Continue reading

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Episodes

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Episode 361 – Natalia Terfa

Episode 360 – Andrew Whitehead (re-release!)

Episode 359 – Scott Bessenecker

Episode 358 – Jon Ward (re-release!)

Episode 357 – Varina Willse

Episode 356 – Tiffany G. Townsend

Episode 354 – MaryAnn McKibben Dana

Episode 354 – Rose Marie Berger

Episode 353 – Adriel Booker

Episode 352 – Aimee Byrd (re-release!)

Episode 315 – Amar Peterman

Episode 350 – Jared Stacy

Episode 349 – Kelly Flanagan

Episode 348 – L. Daniel Hawk

Episode 347 – Amy Peeler (re-release!)

Episode 346 – Sara Billups

Episode 345 – Kristen Lee

Episode 344 – Laura Baghdassarian Murray

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