Amari and the Night Brothers

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Spoons (00:00):
see now I feel creepy because the whole time, spoiler

(00:02):
alert, obviously I'm shippingDylan and Amari and Is this bad?
'cause they are like 13 and I'm28 and I'm like, I want them to
kiss.
And then I'm like, that's weird,right?
I probably shouldn't want themto kiss, but then I'm like, I do
though.
You know?

Gino (00:16):
No, I shipped them the whole time.

Wheezy (00:22):
Hello everybody welcome back to that Pretentious book
club.
I did

Spoons (00:26):
Welcome.

Wheezy (00:27):
honestly, I didn't think was that weird, but everyone is
laughing about it like it reallywas.
So that was one of those ashmoments.
If you're listening on audio,you have no idea and you're
probably happier and morecomfortable with your life.
If you watched on

Spoons (00:38):
Oh My, God.

Wheezy (00:40):
on my head, which apparently is very funny.

Spoons (00:43):
She just, it was just like, okay, time to start the
podcast and it just went up overthere and I was like, okay, is
this a new thing we're doing?
Alright.

Wheezy (00:50):
I can't decide if I'm hot or warm.
And so it felt like I'mliterally gonna do it again.
'cause it felt like a goodcompromise.

Spoons (00:55):
Just follow your heart.

Gino (00:57):
listen,

Spoons (00:57):
go.

Gino (00:58):
I'm not saying I wouldn't.

Wheezy (01:00):
It

Gino (01:00):
So

Wheezy (01:00):
feels better this way, like the top of my

Spoons (01:03):
Okay.

Wheezy (01:03):
warm

Gino (01:04):
welcome to that pretentious book club.
This is your host, um, AshO'Rourke, AKA wheezy.

Wheezy (01:11):
It ain't easy being wheezy.

Spoons (01:13):
Slay

Wheezy (01:15):
I'm trying to let other

Spoons (01:15):
over.

Wheezy (01:16):
intros now that over there is Dr.
Spoons Palermo.
You could call her Kendall.
I wouldn't advise it.

Spoons (01:22):
Hi, howdy.
You wanna

Gino (01:24):
You're like, excuse me, my name?
No,

Spoons (01:27):
My name and over there is Mar Yoki, but you can call
her Gino

Gino (01:34):
Kiara, everyone

Wheezy (01:36):
Oh,

Gino (01:36):
my shirt.

Spoons (01:37):
Kiara.

Gino (01:38):
Whoa.

Spoons (01:38):
Oh my gosh.

Wheezy (01:39):
look at

Gino (01:39):
And our

Spoons (01:40):
a special guest today.

Gino (01:41):
Woo.

Spoons (01:42):
Oh yeah,

Gino (01:42):
My

Spoons (01:43):
Our

Gino (01:43):
over here is

Spoons (01:44):
guest.

Gino (01:45):
Myla.
We forgot to give her a n nameeven though she wanted one, but
I never gave her one.
And I was gonna make her sisterpick one out for her.
Don't do that.
I thought that would be Don't dothat.
Don't do that.
She's gonna pick somethingterrible.

Wheezy (01:58):
middle grade, but just Grand Master for short.
How are

Spoons (02:02):
Oh,

Wheezy (02:02):
about

Gino (02:02):
GM.

Spoons (02:04):
Ooh.
I like grandma.

Wheezy (02:06):
Yeah, which also means Game Master, which is like a
dungeon master also, and sheplays DD so

Gino (02:10):
Oh,

Wheezy (02:11):
It, all comes around.
So Grandma

Spoons (02:13):
It's full circle.
RGM

Gino (02:15):
grandma Master Myla.

Spoons (02:17):
Fat

Gino (02:18):
we go.

Spoons (02:18):
That's really dope actually.
Yay.

Wheezy (02:21):
my head?

Gino (02:22):
Yeah.

Wheezy (02:23):
you

Spoons (02:23):
Oh yeah.

Wheezy (02:24):
I had a good like 10 minutes where I was like, I have
10 minutes.
I could put on makeup and lookcute to impress Myla or not.
And I don't know, I was like, Idon't, I don't know why I've had
this.
Like, hello Myla, it's nice tomeet you.
Also for the first time overthis thing, I've just been like,
I just really wanna impress herand I dunno why.
And so what did I do?
I put a sweater on my head

Spoons (02:45):
Just really

Gino (02:47):
like a little kid acting out always.
Like, not always, but it's thesame thing.
Like when we're at the retreatand you turn into a child and
then like Myla comes on, youlike, hi, like me.
Do

Wheezy (02:59):
it's like

Gino (03:00):
Do you wanna go on the Seesaw with me?

Wheezy (03:02):
you have one chance to make a good first impression.
Okay.
And actually think I'm reallygood at it.
So anyways, welcome Myla.
I'll probably be putting you onthe spot and making you
uncomfortable because that'swhat I do.
You can ask Gino or Spoons elsewho's ever spoken to me?

Spoons (03:17):
That's the burden of being the special guest.
You get to be on the spot.

Wheezy (03:20):
But we're

Gino (03:21):
Woo.

Wheezy (03:22):
The whole reason we're here for this episode it's as

Spoons (03:25):
the, this is gonna be a doozy.
Okay.
Because I have a lot ofthoughts.

Wheezy (03:29):
we all have a

Spoons (03:30):
just telling y'all right now.

Wheezy (03:31):
The

Gino (03:31):
The text chain.
It was,

Spoons (03:34):
was blowing up.
It was going nuts.
Basically crickets for women inwhite, even though we all liked
it, but you know, basicallycrickets.

Gino (03:42):
we didn't say a word.

Spoons (03:43):
Boom.
Everyone's freaking out.
Mostly me,

Wheezy (03:46):
times forgot.
I was driving while listening toit and was like, this is
dangerous.
This is definitely dangerous.
I fully am not aware.
I'm even, I was like, literally,how did I get here?
I like arrived at my garage andwas like, what happened at this
whole 30 minute drive from whenI

Gino (04:00):
I need

Spoons (04:01):
just,

Gino (04:01):
Myla to fully recreate her reaction when I showed her your
text from earlier today'sspoons.
Later on, whether she remembersit or not, I'll repeat it.
'cause it was, I was like, man,I literally told her, I said,
we're not talking anymore.
Save it for the pod.

Spoons (04:15):
yeah.
We gotta save it.
Yeah,

Wheezy (04:17):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's how you

Spoons (04:19):
Oh my gosh.

Wheezy (04:19):
you have, when we have to have that save it, we, every
now and then we do.
We have to go, Wait.
Save it for the pod.
It's

Spoons (04:24):
Yeah.
Oh.
Oh, okay.

Gino (04:26):
Yeah, I started ranting about it to my sister and she
hasn't even read it, and she'slike, Myla, stop talking.

Wheezy (04:34):
Oh, that might just be a

Spoons (04:35):
Like

Wheezy (04:36):
thing.
Oh, that's

Spoons (04:37):
Aw, that's so funny.

Gino (04:38):
So our book, if we haven't mentioned Oh yeah.
Is do you wanna tell us?
Yeah.
Amari and the Knight Brothers.
Oh, this is not up to thescreen.

Spoons (04:48):
ooh.
Is that a library book?

Gino (04:50):
Yes.

Spoons (04:51):
Excellent.
Love it.
We love to see it.
Oh, I don't even have a physicalone.
Oh,

Wheezy (04:56):
God, what's it like to

Spoons (04:57):
I might have to get one though.

Gino (04:59):
I was gonna say, this is the first time I've had a
physical copy of the book inquite some time.
But I had every intention, I hadevery intention of just like
actually reading this oneinstead of audio booking it.
But then I got a really specialaudio book version, so I mostly
listened to it.
My narrator I brought with metoday.

Wheezy (05:18):
About to say, are you

Spoons (05:19):
Yes.
How did,

Wheezy (05:20):
life like audiobook, narrator?
'cause that's amazing.

Gino (05:24):
Yeah.

Spoons (05:24):
you prepare for your role as narrator Myla?
Like what was your Like?
Lozenges, you know, vocalwarmups, anything like that?

Gino (05:32):
no, I just read it and when I felt like I needed water,
I just was like, I'm putting thebook down.
Gimme a second.
Can't.
So her audio book got p pausedand she couldn't control it.

Wheezy (05:44):
So other than the pause that you

Spoons (05:46):
Yeah.
She couldn't pause it.

Wheezy (05:47):
you take a break.
Mya decides when you take abreak.

Spoons (05:50):
The narrator decides you've had enough.
Okay.

Wheezy (05:53):
That's so

Spoons (05:54):
That's really funny.

Wheezy (05:55):
my

Spoons (05:56):
Oh how was everyone's week?
Before we get into the

Gino (05:58):
Oh yeah.

Wheezy (05:59):
we, but if you don't wanna listen to the

Spoons (06:01):
Any bird news?

Wheezy (06:02):
notes.
But we all know you're here forthe nonsense.
So yeah, tell us about yourbirds Gino

Gino (06:07):
Um, bird News, Milo went with me to murder our birds last
week.
We have, we had meat chickens

Spoons (06:15):
Ah.

Gino (06:15):
We drove and had them processed and today we bought
four.
I can't believe I'm buyingbirds.
We bought four babies because Ihave a mama chicken that's been
broody for like four months atthis point, and she looks like
she's on death's door if shedoesn't have babies to get her
out of the coop.
She's just been sitting therenot drinking or eating for, I

(06:36):
swear, four months.
So we went and got babies.
I'm gonna sneak'em under her inthe morning and hopefully she
doesn't murder them all.

Spoons (06:43):
yeah.
Fingers crossed.

Gino (06:45):
Yeah,

Spoons (06:45):
had enough.
We chicken murder

Gino (06:47):
enough birder.
We, oh,

Wheezy (06:50):
Yeah.

Gino (06:51):
so we got our like outdoor camera set up finally.
We've had it forever, but we gotit set up.
So we've been watching, we haveat least 15 raccoons that are
just running around thebackyard, just like climbing on
top of the pen and crawlingaround and ever, there's just
gazillions of them, but at least15 that we've seen all at once.

Wheezy (07:14):
Oh

Gino (07:15):
they're crazy.

Wheezy (07:16):
What if you just looked

Spoons (07:18):
They're so cute.

Wheezy (07:18):
there were just like 15 serial, like known serial
killers just walking around?
'cause That's what yourchicken's lives are

Gino (07:24):
what it's,

Spoons (07:24):
That's what it is.

Gino (07:26):
yes,

Spoons (07:26):
They're scary little eyes.
They're little hands, They'rereally cute.

Wheezy (07:30):
so

Spoons (07:30):
they are murderers.
I know.

Wheezy (07:32):
Oh, they're,

Gino (07:33):
I know.

Wheezy (07:33):
Straight up

Gino (07:34):
For real though, there's just like, we'll rip the head
off, but we don't want any ofthe rest of it.

Spoons (07:40):
Terrible.

Wheezy (07:41):
find it

Gino (07:41):
yeah.

Wheezy (07:42):
Like the least they could do is at least enjoy their
meal.

Spoons (07:44):
at least eat it.
Yeah.
Come on.

Wheezy (07:46):
a purpose.
Nah, we don't

Spoons (07:49):
Yeah,

Wheezy (07:49):
for Sport.

Gino (07:51):
we also have a Wild Turkey and it's babies.
Yeah.
Those are so cute.

Wheezy (07:57):
Have you named them?

Spoons (07:58):
Oh Turkey Babies.

Gino (08:00):
Oh no, not yet.
We haven't like thought of that.
What'd you name your, the babychickens we got today?
Oh, we named them Scooter,skunk, Chipotle and Diva.

Wheezy (08:12):
Amazing.
Amazing.

Spoons (08:14):
Perfect.
Exactly what they should benamed

Wheezy (08:17):
my God, that's so good.

Spoons (08:19):
Scooter.

Wheezy (08:20):
Laying

Spoons (08:20):
Perfect.
Oh my God.

Wheezy (08:22):
That's

Gino (08:23):
What else has been going on?
Anything?
No.
I've just been chilling.
I've been reading library books,but not much really.

Wheezy (08:33):
Oh

Spoons (08:33):
Yeah,

Wheezy (08:34):
books.

Spoons (08:35):
That's what I wanna be doing.
Chilling and reading librarybooks.
That sounds sleigh.
Yeah.
And you'll have to forgive methat I use outdated lingo, Myla.
I know I'm not cool.
So just don't bring it upplease.
Thank you.

Wheezy (08:46):
I use outdated

Gino (08:47):
That's a,

Wheezy (08:48):
sorry about it.
So it will

Gino (08:50):
I showed her your text that said Dylan and Amari are
your ultimate OTP.
And she was like, what?
What is OTP?

Spoons (08:57):
OTP?

Wheezy (08:58):
I've had to

Spoons (08:58):
like?
Can you On Tumblr in 2013.
You know

Wheezy (09:01):
Oh my gosh.
That's

Gino (09:03):
was like, she ships them.

Spoons (09:05):
I ship them.
Yeah.

Wheezy (09:06):
Oh, is ship

Spoons (09:07):
True pairing.

Gino (09:09):
I don't know.
She understood that.
So I guess,

Wheezy (09:11):
Yay.

Gino (09:12):
yeah, shipping is still,

Wheezy (09:14):
still

Gino (09:14):
yeah,

Spoons (09:15):
y'all know that the term ship.
Was

Gino (09:18):
I.

Spoons (09:18):
used to refer to molder and Scully from the XFiles
Molder.
The XFiles invented shipping.

Gino (09:25):
I think I did.

Spoons (09:26):
did.
you?
That's awesome.

Wheezy (09:28):
but it all makes sense.

Spoons (09:30):
Yeah.

Wheezy (09:30):
like if you were to look up ship in a dictionary or in an
encyclopedia, there would belike a reference to them with a
picture.

Gino (09:35):
Oh my gosh, this is

Spoons (09:36):
was like the nineties, so they were starting

Gino (09:38):
so random.
But I wanted to talk about thislike five episodes ago and I
always forget, but have you guysever heard of I think they're
called Bills of Moratorium.
I might be making thiscompletely.
Have, does that sound familiar?

Wheezy (09:53):
No.

Spoons (09:54):
know.

Gino (09:54):
What are you talking about?
Oh bill of Mortality.
That is?

Wheezy (09:58):
less aware of that.

Gino (09:59):
Okay, um, it is, I don't know why this was like from four
PO podcasts ago, so it hadsomething to do with something,
but in like, I wanna sayRenaissance.
England, or sometime long agoEngland, they had these bills of
mortality, which was, it cameout like how everyone died that

(10:24):
year or month or whatever.
But you have to look, you haveto look at them because they're
hilarious.
Like

Wheezy (10:32):
many women died

Gino (10:33):
If you really think about it, it makes some of them make
sense.
But just by our English thesedays, like, seven people died of
vomiting.
This and this year.
I just looked this up realquick.

Spoons (10:45):
Cow.

Gino (10:47):
it's like some of them are like five people died of falling
off a tower or something likethat.
Like they're, or like

Wheezy (10:53):
The

Gino (10:54):
confusion.
Like Yeah, like some of them,they're like, you have to look
them up.
They, I was crying, I wascracking up.
Did they literally just jump offthe same tower after seeing
someone's, I dunno,

Wheezy (11:06):
that might be a

Gino (11:07):
Found dead in fields and et cetera?

Wheezy (11:11):
And et cetera.

Spoons (11:12):
You know, you get the picture found that in the field

Wheezy (11:15):
you know, fields, and other field, like areas,

Spoons (11:18):
they just, people be dead in fields sometimes, you
know,

Wheezy (11:21):
just, you know, it happens.
What can you

Spoons (11:23):
Vomiting.

Gino (11:25):
yeah.
There, oh, this one planet, sixpeople died of Planet.
Planet.
Did they go to another planet?

Wheezy (11:34):
planet or

Gino (11:35):
Yes.

Spoons (11:36):
They were just on earth

Gino (11:38):
What planet?

Spoons (11:39):
planet.

Wheezy (11:39):
What the hell?

Spoons (11:40):
The planet?
killed them.

Gino (11:42):
Six people died of planet.

Wheezy (11:44):
gonna get

Gino (11:44):
Is that sickness?
What?

Wheezy (11:47):
I dunno.
That's really

Spoons (11:48):
I

Gino (11:49):
The

Spoons (11:49):
die of planet.

Wheezy (11:50):
I know.

Gino (11:51):
it.
Yeah.
So, um, they're just, they'rehilarious.
I mean, it's death, but they'rehilarious.

Wheezy (11:57):
I, you know, I'm really glad that

Spoons (11:59):
Sometimes step is funny.

Wheezy (12:00):
up for episodes out of context.

Gino (12:02):
I know.

Wheezy (12:03):
better

Gino (12:03):
I feel like

Wheezy (12:03):
idea what the context is.

Gino (12:05):
I know.

Wheezy (12:06):
Oh my

Gino (12:07):
I don't know, but I was like, I finally remembered.

Spoons (12:10):
I love this.
I wanna go look'em up afterthis.

Wheezy (12:12):
is read these.

Spoons (12:13):
I know.
Pause to go look at deaths from15 hundreds.

Wheezy (12:18):
Oh

Spoons (12:18):
Oh my gosh.

Gino (12:20):
spoons, what have you been up to?

Spoons (12:22):
Nothing much.
I just, but I did realize, Ithink we forgot to talk about
the part of our trip where wewent to see outsider stuff.

Gino (12:30):
Yeah, you did because I saw, no, you didn't talk about
it.
'cause I saw your post on, yeah,I saw your post on Facebook or
something and I was like, what?

Wheezy (12:38):
Oh my

Spoons (12:38):
because like that was kind of like a major part of it.
I can't believe we didn't

Gino (12:43):
You just talked about being cousin lovers and sharing
one bed.
That was it.

Spoons (12:46):
God.
See, yeah.
We really should have beentalking about how we got to see
the out place, where they filmedthe outsiders.

Wheezy (12:53):
would've

Spoons (12:54):
It was.

Wheezy (12:55):
if she had, if we hadn't been going to that.
She was like, this is mypilgrimage, Ash.
I've been waiting my whole life,and I was like, it's six hours
away from us.
I don't know why it took your

Spoons (13:02):
I could have gone, I'm like, for 15 years I've wanted
to go.
And she's like, it's six hours.
You could have driven at anytime.
And I'm like, I know, but Ididn't.
So now we're here.

Wheezy (13:11):
and it was so special to get to be a part of it because I
also like the outsiders.
However, the level of adorationthat spoons has is def, like my
liking the outsiders is sounparalleled.
She was so excited.
Like we pulled up to the streetand she's like, I'm so

Spoons (13:25):
I almost cried.

Wheezy (13:26):
hurts.
I was like, I can't wait to

Spoons (13:28):
I was getting sick a little bit.
I was like, this is insane.
I can't believe we're here.
But it was so cool.
They had like costumes from themovie.
They did the house all set uplike it is in the movie, so you
can very much picture like, Oh.
Patrick Swayze was standingright here.
You know, it's so awesome.
And everyone who worked therewas like also insane like me.
So it was really fun.
And we got to meet this lady whowas like an extra in the movie

(13:50):
and she was like, y'all wannasee my part of the movie?
And we were like, yeah.
And she like rewound to herscene and was like, there and
she was like, and we got to meetMatt Dylan.
And I was like, what?
And it was so cool.
And we got to sit right wherePony Boy sits, where he's
reading Johnny's letter at theend and then Ralph Nacho's face
gets all big and like, oh mygosh.
And it was the best day ever.

Wheezy (14:11):
and pose with a recreation of the chocolate cake
and the

Spoons (14:15):
I.

Wheezy (14:15):
So that was cool.

Spoons (14:17):
from two bits, little scene.
And so that was what sold it forme the most, I think be I was
telling Ash because I was like,these people understand what I,
a Superfan wants out of thisexperience, you know, because
they are insane as well.
So they like this one randomscene.
Like anyone would be like, Ohyeah, that's kind of funny.
These people who worked therewere like, we have to have the

(14:37):
props.
People will want to recreatethis.
And I'm like, right.
I did.
I was so excited.
How did you know?
So it was really fun.

Wheezy (14:47):
It

Spoons (14:47):
So I guess that'll be my update, the Outsiders Museum.
So yeah, Ash posted the video onour socials of me, like crying
about it.
So

Wheezy (14:54):
That was

Spoons (14:55):
that's in of, in any interest to the club,

Wheezy (14:57):
I wish I

Spoons (14:58):
I'll, I have some more pictures I might post too.
Yeah,

Wheezy (15:01):
You should.
You

Spoons (15:01):
and we literally drove to Tulsa, did that, and then
left Tulsa.
We did absolutely nothing elsein Tulsa.
Sorry to Tulsa.
I'm sure you're a lovely city,but yeah, we basically just did
that.
So anyway,

Wheezy (15:14):
yeah.

Spoons (15:15):
spoons, I mean, I'm spoons

Gino (15:16):
Oh.

Spoons (15:17):
Weezy Any any updates?

Wheezy (15:19):
Some exciting updates.
They're not pod related, butthey're just, you know, like my
life related, which is I justsigned a lease for the bookstore
hooray.

Spoons (15:27):
Yay.

Wheezy (15:27):
an actual beautiful space.
I signed it this morning andit's in a gorgeous historic
building and I'm so psyched andthere will be many more details
to come.
Don't worry if you wanted todonate or didn't wanna donate,
but knew I was gonna bring it upagain.
You still have every opportunityto do so crowdfunding is still
very much going because it'svery expensive to start a

(15:47):
business.
Actually starting a bookstore isnot that bad compared to other
businesses.
But for someone who has nomoney, I sure could use some
money.
So if you guys wanna crowdfundthe, my, my very, my cute little
independent bookstore, It's alsogonna serve as a writing center
and like community event center.
We're gonna have like d and dnights, we're gonna have karaoke
and comedy and we're gonna have,God, what are we now gonna have?

(16:10):
We're gonna have author likereadings and signing.
It's gonna be so much fun.
I'm very excited about it.
And if you come and see me, ifyou come to the bookstore, you
can see me and possibly alsospoons.
So very exciting.

Spoons (16:22):
It's gonna be awesome.
Yay.

Wheezy (16:24):
And we're gonna have some more like really fun
fundraising.
Does somebody, they call itfundraising, fundraising events.

Gino (16:32):
Oh goodness.

Wheezy (16:33):
you guys are

Gino (16:33):
Oh goodness.

Wheezy (16:35):
Lemme just hang on.
So I need to put the sweatshirt,I think

Spoons (16:39):
she's.
Okay.
There you go.
Yeah.

Gino (16:41):
Oh yeah,

Wheezy (16:41):
better.

Spoons (16:42):
so we can't see anything.
Okay.
Yeah.

Wheezy (16:45):
That's right.
Yeah.
There we

Gino (16:46):
I was gonna say that button on your microphone hit
that.

Wheezy (16:49):
Yeah.
But we're gonna do some coolevents that you guys can
participate in too.
That's exciting and more to comeabout that.
Pretty much that's been my lifehas been like waking up at two
in the morning and thinking of20 things I have to do for the
bookstore and then, or thewriting retreat that's coming up
and then writing them down andthen going back to sleep or
trying, laying there for an hourand a half in the middle of the
night.
So that's kind of been my life.
Yeah,

Spoons (17:09):
Woo-hoo.

Wheezy (17:10):
hair again.
It did not go as well as thefirst time I did it when I,
thought

Spoons (17:14):
I,

Wheezy (17:14):
good at this, and

Spoons (17:16):
oh, ri.

Gino (17:16):
There's hats.
Hats.

Wheezy (17:18):
Hats are fine.

Spoons (17:19):
Yeah.

Wheezy (17:19):
honestly his fault because he refused to sit still,
and I also refused to stab himin the eye with my scissors.
So I was like, can have a reallygood haircut and be blind, or
you can have a really messyhaircut and be completely safe.
So we went with that one.

Spoons (17:33):
Yeah, that's

Gino (17:33):
You have to

Spoons (17:34):
option.
Yeah.

Gino (17:35):
do it while he is sleeping like their fingernails.

Wheezy (17:37):
Honestly.
Yes.
Now he's very sensitive aboutthat though because now he's
aware, he wakes up when I messwith his fingernails.
or his toenails.
So we have absolute fullmeltdowns when we have to do
toenail cutting.
And also now haircuts.
Full meltdown.
Super fun.
I did discover today that he'sat the stage where I can annoy
him for my own entertainment,which is really delightful.
There is a bible verse thatsays, fathers don't exasperate

(17:59):
your children, but it saysfathers.
It doesn't say anything aboutmothers.
So I feel like I'm probably inthe clear he has

Spoons (18:04):
I think ethically it's fine.
Yeah.

Wheezy (18:07):
it's fine, Biblically ethically, he's got these little

Spoons (18:11):
Biblically

Wheezy (18:12):
likes to stack all the square pieces on top of each
other just into a really highstack.
And so I.
was handing him the wrong sizeand shape of pieces.
And at first he would just, hewould take

Spoons (18:21):
I.

Wheezy (18:22):
me.
And'cause he is all focused, heis got his like tongue sticking
out his mouth and he is like.
As he like puts the pieces onand adorable and I give him the
wrong piece.
He puts it on because he is notreally looking.
Then he is like, it doesn't fit.
He goes, it makes like ahorrendous face.
And then hands it back to me.
And I did this like three times.
By the third time I would handit to him and he'd go, no, hand
it back immediately and justlike shout no at me every time.

Gino (18:45):
Mom, are you dumb?

Wheezy (18:46):
he was

Spoons (18:47):
Like

Wheezy (18:47):
doesn't I, know

Spoons (18:49):
he's, like, obviously,

Wheezy (18:51):
He's

Spoons (18:51):
oh my God.

Wheezy (18:52):
I am 21 months old and I can figure this out.
What is wrong with you?

Gino (18:56):
Oh, goodness.

Spoons (18:57):
we're gonna need to work on this.

Wheezy (18:59):
that's

Spoons (18:59):
Alright,

Wheezy (19:01):
Bookstore and harassing my kid.

Spoons (19:03):
I love it.

Wheezy (19:03):
Yeah.

Spoons (19:04):
lots going on.
We're all so we're all, we'veall got something going on.
You know, we're all doing it.

Wheezy (19:09):
Except for

Gino (19:09):
Oh, for show.

Spoons (19:10):
on right now is my little.
that we made.

Gino (19:14):
I saw your, you put the pineapple slices on it and I was
like, ah.

Spoons (19:18):
I did.

Wheezy (19:19):
I know she got real cute with

Spoons (19:20):
I did.
Do you wanna describe the drink,Gina?

Gino (19:23):
Here we have three drinks over here.

Wheezy (19:26):
Ooh, whoa.

Spoons (19:27):
Yeah.
They're all like differentcolors.

Wheezy (19:28):
was gonna say Mylas is a really pretty blue,

Spoons (19:30):
I love

Gino (19:31):
so this is Amari's illusion.
This is a mocktail.
It is Honey Dew.
Pineapple juice, orange juice,lemon juice, and an ice cube.
And I have circular ice cube.

Wheezy (19:44):
just

Gino (19:45):
So I put that in there and I was like they're big.
They're like that big.

Spoons (19:49):
big ones.

Wheezy (19:50):
Ooh.

Gino (19:51):
ball.
Yeah.
Yeah.

Spoons (19:53):
Oh Yeah.
Perfect.

Wheezy (19:54):
that's so magical.
That's really cool.

Gino (19:57):
And then Myla can tell you about her drink.
My drink is Sprite with flowers,which are supposed to be like
Amari bloom.
The amari bloom.

Spoons (20:09):
Stop it.
I'm gonna cry.
Okay.

Gino (20:11):
And the blue is'cause blue just gives me illusion vibe.
So like, the flowers anillusion.

Wheezy (20:17):
Yeah.

Gino (20:17):
also have like the ice cube for like the crystal ball.
And that's,

Wheezy (20:21):
That's

Gino (20:22):
I don't remember what like the thing that colored it blue.
But it's blue.
It's raspberry lemonade.
Neo.
Oh, raspberry lemonade.
Neo.

Wheezy (20:31):
Nice.

Spoons (20:32):
great.
I love it.

Wheezy (20:33):
it.
looks really

Spoons (20:34):
It's perfect.
Yeah.
Y'all are gonna have to take apicture of that.
We can post it on the

Gino (20:38):
I did take a picture of hers, so

Spoons (20:40):
Okay.
Excellent.
Yeah, Okay.
So should we get into the book?
Okay.
So

Gino (20:44):
yeah, that's the author.

Spoons (20:46):
What's going

Gino (20:47):
I,

Spoons (20:47):
So yeah, we're doing Amari and the Knight Brothers on
Mylas suggestion, and it iswritten by Bibe Ston.
So I, found a little interview

Gino (21:00):
I was shocked that he is a, he, like, after reading it,
he has a really strong femalevoice for her.

Spoons (21:08):
When I saw that it was initials, I was like, I wonder
if it's a man.
And it is indeed.
So

Wheezy (21:13):
cross my mind.
Even once I was like, this bookwas written by a woman.
I just know it literally, untilyou were like, we should learn
about the author

Spoons (21:20):
I,

Wheezy (21:20):
record an episode where we talk about the author.
And I, was like, yeah.
And I was like, wait, it's aman, a very handsome man.
I have no idea.
I know

Spoons (21:27):
yeah.
Ash has a crush on Bebe Alston.

Gino (21:30):
Also we found out they're making a movie.

Spoons (21:32):
Yes.
they're making a movie.
you guys.

Wheezy (21:35):
Oh my gosh,

Spoons (21:36):
How cool is that?
like the coolest thing ever.

Wheezy (21:39):
how obsessed I would've been with this book.
I'm kind of obsessed now, butlike, this was like the level
of, if anyone has been with thispodcast for any period of time,
you know how deeply committed Iam to the Percy Jackson series
by Rick Ryden.
Amazing.
I, this would've been like equallike reading.
I was like, I have not

Spoons (21:59):
Dang.

Wheezy (22:00):
the first read of Percy Jackson and the Lightning Thief.
It was

Spoons (22:04):
yeah.
I was also feeling like thiswould, this is doing numbers on
me right now.
As a 28-year-old, this wouldhave done even worse for me.
If I was like 13, it would'vebeen over.

Wheezy (22:16):
But you would be like, you'd be like, I'm at every BB
Alston appearance, every signingI have every piece of

Spoons (22:23):
I would've had signed BB Alston.
Yeah, I would.
You're right.
So he, I found a littleinterview, so he started writing
in middle school and it says hewould entertain his classmates
with horror stories starring thewhole class in which not
everyone survived.
And I personally love thatenergy.

Gino (22:42):
That's one way to deal with, he makes his own stories.

Wheezy (22:46):
Nice.

Spoons (22:47):
he had just been accepted into a biomedical
graduate program when he enteredlike a Twitter pitch contest and
it led to him signing with hisagent and now he has a film deal
and 20 plus book deal.
Like how crazy is that?
I love that.
he loves he has a sweet tooth.
but this is what really caughtmy eye is that when I started

(23:10):
reading the book, I didn't lookup anything about it beforehand.
I just started listening to itand my like, first thoughts were
like, once it started gettinginto like, you.
like, when she showed up at thebureau and stuff, I was like,
even before that I was like,this is very Percy Jackson
esque, like, kind of like downon you, like kinda kid.
But like, you know, it, I waslike, she's giving Percy Jackson

(23:32):
in a way.
Then I was like, this is like ifPercy Jackson was like me, met
men in Black, and then it'sliterally pitched as Percy
Jackson meets Men in Black.
And I was like, wow.
I was really on board with that.

Wheezy (23:44):
You

Spoons (23:44):
I was like, it's giving, for me, it's giving like Percy
Jackson men in Black Mortalinstruments in a way.
And obviously there's likelittle Harry Potter in there,
but I was like, this is, I wasloving it.

Wheezy (23:56):
Correct.
This

Spoons (23:57):
so

Gino (23:58):
fun.
That's funny because um, when Iread like the first chapter two,
Maya was asking me how far I wasand I was like, oh, I got to
this point.
She was like, well, whathappened so far?
So I was telling her and hersister was listening and her
sister's one of the biggestPercy Jackson fans as well.
So as I'm telling her, she waslike, so it's Percy Jackson?
No, that's Percy Jackson.

(24:19):
This is just Percy Jackson.
She's like, that literallyhappens in Percy Jackson.
She's like, this guy copiedPercy Jackson.

Spoons (24:28):
She was ready to fight.

Gino (24:29):
Yeah.

Wheezy (24:30):
That's so

Spoons (24:31):
I do think there are a lot of similarities, but I feel
that it is quite differentenough for me

Gino (24:36):
Yeah,

Spoons (24:37):
is, I love the

Wheezy (24:38):
It

Spoons (24:39):
I think it's, I love middle grade novels.
Ugh, so good.

Wheezy (24:42):
Don't typically, I especially like,

Spoons (24:46):
this is a big deal for you.

Wheezy (24:47):
I didn't really like them.
Percy Jackson was my bigexception.
And then sure enough, this is mybig exception as an adult, like
every time we've read a middlegrade, I've been like, eh,
probably good if you're a middlegrader reading this.
I was like.
I want to only be reading thisand never not be reading this
for the rest of my life.

Spoons (25:01):
Can you tell, we liked your suggestion, Myla.
He Bebe Allison said his alltime favorite book is Charlie in
the Chocolate Factory, which Ithink is very interesting.

Wheezy (25:10):
I'm losing some Approval for him.

Spoons (25:12):
oh, I

Gino (25:13):
I.

Spoons (25:13):
it.

Gino (25:14):
Been reading a lot, not reading, I've been watching all
like all the Chocolate Charlie,the Chocolate Factory, and Willy
Wonka's recently.
So that just like caught myattention.
It was our summer goal to reador to watch all the rewatch, all
the Charlie's and Wonka's andstuff.
So we've been watching those.

Wheezy (25:31):
The book

Spoons (25:31):
So you and Bibi are on the same wavelength.

Wheezy (25:35):
Hey, she said she likes the movies.
The book is something different.

Gino (25:39):
I've never read the book before, so I don't know.

Wheezy (25:42):
I

Spoons (25:42):
I haven't read it in a long time, to be fair.

Wheezy (25:44):
but.

Gino (25:45):
know if I read the that book, but I read the Glass
Elevator,

Wheezy (25:49):
Oh

Gino (25:49):
so I don't know if I read Charlie and the Chocolate
Factory, but I read the oneafter it.

Wheezy (25:53):
people, some people say it's better.
I don't know.
Listen,

Spoons (25:56):
I have heard that too, but I haven't read that one.

Wheezy (25:58):
I just, I don't know.
I don't know about that one.

Spoons (26:01):
That's, maybe that's why you don't like middle grade
books as much because, so manyof them are about, like, kids
where you're like, where areyour parents?
Like, you know, why doeseveryone so mean to you?
Like, it's like how, yeah, we'rejust putting kids in basements
and stuff.
So yeah, so his, it says thathis inspiration for the first
Samari book, he was wa.

(26:21):
Watching men in black and waslike, what if they did more than
just aliens?
What if it was like supernaturalcreatures?
And then he started writingImari book?
How cool is that?

Wheezy (26:31):
I Has that, has everybody heard

Spoons (26:33):
yeah,

Wheezy (26:34):
fact, 20 times.

Gino (26:36):
No.
No.

Spoons (26:36):
no.

Wheezy (26:38):
Tommy Lee Jones is my, not so he is related to my
grandfather, but like,supposedly they're like first
cousins or something, likerelatively close.
Like they would be at familyreunions together.
But apparently he's not a verynice person.
That's

Spoons (26:49):
Oh no.

Wheezy (26:50):
I am pretty sure they're related.
I can't testify, I don't havethe evidence as to how closely,
but they do.
He and my grandfather do lookreally similar, so I'm like, ah,
I see that side of the family.
But

Spoons (27:00):
You're like, I believe it could be true.

Wheezy (27:03):
do.
I'm gonna choose to believe thatit's true.
That's my fun fact about men inBlack.

Spoons (27:07):
That is a fun fact.
He just a couple more things he.

Wheezy (27:11):
halt,

Spoons (27:11):
no, didn't.
I'm just trying to

Gino (27:14):
What was, yeah, I could.

Spoons (27:15):
my next BB Alston.
Fun fact.
he says that it was that Amariis the character that is most
like him,

Wheezy (27:23):
Aw.

Spoons (27:23):
that's probably why it was easy for him to write from
her POV also that he was reallyexcited about like having a
young black hero on the cover ofthe book because when he was a
kid there weren't very manybooks for kids his age where
like that featured like blackmain characters.
I thought that was very cooltoo.
And then he says that if hecould have a supernatural

(27:47):
ability from the Bureau, itwould be cool if he could just
touch a book and know everythinginside, so then he could read

Gino (27:52):
So good.
So

Wheezy (27:54):
What a good, what a

Gino (27:55):
I feel like we were just talking about something like
that, like having superpowers ofknowledge.
Oh, you were talking aboutHermione.
Like wanting all the knowledgeand never being able to get it.

Wheezy (28:06):
That

Spoons (28:06):
yeah,

Wheezy (28:06):
a really deep conversation.
Now.
I'm like,

Gino (28:09):
Yeah,

Wheezy (28:09):
talk about Harry Potter.

Spoons (28:10):
it's really does.
And I'm like,

Gino (28:12):
well I was like, I resonate with that.
I want all the knowledge, butI'll never be able to attain it,
you know?

Spoons (28:17):
that would be cool.
So that's all I have

Gino (28:19):
Anyway.

Spoons (28:20):
do not know his birthday.
We can

Gino (28:22):
I do.

Spoons (28:22):
pod astrologist.

Wheezy (28:24):
Ooh,

Spoons (28:24):
Oh, we have, Gino has the birthday.

Gino (28:26):
Any guesses?
No.

Spoons (28:28):
He's a Scorpio.

Wheezy (28:30):
That's an interesting

Spoons (28:30):
I don't know.

Gino (28:31):
Close, but Virgo, September 20th.

Spoons (28:36):
A very go

Wheezy (28:37):
Libra and I

Spoons (28:38):
perfect.

Wheezy (28:39):
I know nothing about Virgos I'm, and I never choose
to

Gino (28:42):
I, yeah, I know.
Several Virgos.

Spoons (28:45):
Yeah

Gino (28:46):
yeah.

Spoons (28:46):
very like intense sometimes.
okay.
Okay.
Let's get into the

Gino (28:50):
first impressions,

Wheezy (28:52):
first impressions.
My

Spoons (28:54):
Myla, do

Gino (28:54):
Myla, what was.

Wheezy (28:56):
Oh, I'm sorry, I just jumped in.
Yes, Myla, go ahead.

Spoons (28:58):
Oh, sorry,

Wheezy (28:59):
No, it's only right

Spoons (29:00):
grandma.

Wheezy (29:01):
Myla leads the way.

Gino (29:02):
My first.
So what happens is my friendsaid, Myla, read this book.
And I was like, maybe.
And I just walked away'cause Iwas looking for a new book to
read.
So I was going down the sectionsof books.
I already saw like the wholesection of books, like it was in
another place where all thesections were.
And I was like, Hey, this booklooks interesting.

(29:22):
I pulled it out and it was theexact book she already told me
about.
And like it wasn't with theother books where it was
supposed to be.
And I was like, you know what?
This is Destiny.
I'm gonna read it.
And it became my favorite book.

Wheezy (29:36):
to be.

Spoons (29:37):
Wait.

Gino (29:37):
Yeah.

Wheezy (29:38):
you.

Spoons (29:39):
It did.
It's fate.
You were meant to read it.

Wheezy (29:42):
is.
Oh, I'm

Spoons (29:42):
really crazy.

Wheezy (29:44):
I'm so glad Fate gave you this

Spoons (29:45):
I know.
Thank goodness.
Now I got to read it.

Gino (29:48):
Yeah.
I, when she suggested it andthen I suggested it to y'all and
I finally looked it up when youguys were like, what's the book?
The first thing it said on therewas like a combination of
Artemis Foul and something else.
I don't know.
All I remember

Spoons (30:02):
Oh

Wheezy (30:03):
Artemis

Gino (30:03):
say, all I remember was it said Artemis Fow.
And that was one of my favoritebooks probably still is from
like my childhood, the wholeArtemis Fow series.
So I was like, okay, I'mimmediately on board.

Spoons (30:14):
To do Artemis value, you guys.
Oh my God.
Why

Gino (30:16):
I freaking love Artemis Fow.

Spoons (30:19):
I'm a Me too.
I was so obsessed.
Obsessed.

Wheezy (30:23):
our other books this season with

Spoons (30:24):
Yeah.
Replace it.
We're doing Artemis fowlinstead.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Okay, so you were like, yeah,absolutely.

Gino (30:30):
Yes.
Spoons.
What was your first impression?
I.

Spoons (30:34):
impression was, I don't know, I didn't have very much,
like I barely even looked at thecover before I started reading
it.
I was just like, okay, this isthe book.
Like, I didn't have much of animpression, I guess.
I was just like, oh, it's okay.
It's a lot of magic.
We're gonna be doing magicstuff.
I'm interested in like whateverthis new, I'm interested to
learn some new lore, you know?

(30:55):
always like fun whenever youstart in with like a new series
and you're like, what's the vibegonna be?
So I don't even know if I have agood first impression.
I really just kind of went inblind.
didn't like read anything on it,I was like, who are these Knight
Brothers?
You know?
What's their story?

Gino (31:10):
Have comments

Spoons (31:11):
Oh, she's got comments on the Knight Brothers.
Okay.

Wheezy (31:15):
first.
My first impression of the bookwas first, what a cool cover.
I love the artwork.
I love to see a girl.
I'll never, it'll never get oldfor me like a girl heroine on
the main cover that will neverget old.
I love it.
Always.
Yep.

Spoons (31:28):
it.

Wheezy (31:29):
It's gorgeous.
However, I saw Amari and I waslike, yes, it said, and the
Knight Brothers.
And my first impression was, whythe, why are we mentioning the
Knight Brothers?
Who are the Knight Brothers?
If they're not the maincharacter, their name doesn't be
deserve to be up there.
Obviously Amari's the maincharacter.
Her name should be on the cover.
And that was my

Gino (31:44):
Okay.
That's pretty much my lastimpression of the book.
That's my comments of like,wait, why were the Knight
Brothers mentioned in the title?

Wheezy (31:52):
that was my first question.
I was like, I feel like thisdoesn't need to be here.
I don't know if it's about her.
It'd be about her.
She's clearly awesome.
So that was my first impression.

Spoons (32:02):
Why are the Knight Brothers here?
Okay.
so wants to lead us through kindof a basic plot of the book?
Anyone want to do it?

Wheezy (32:12):
Takers, any,

Gino (32:13):
why don't you, I can, I guess.
Okay.
May

Spoons (32:16):
Oh,

Gino (32:17):
said she'll try.
Yeah.
The plot of it is of Aari, themain character who her brother
Quentin goes missing like awhile ago, and it's just her and
her mom.
She finds out about like thissummer camp thing.
I don't think I'm getting allthis right because I've read it
like a while ago.
But it's a secret baroo withlike investigation stuff, but

(32:41):
she wants to become a agent likeher brother was, and find out
the mysteries of her brother.
And she gets into this wholething with the Knight Brothers,
and that's why they're on thecover.

Wheezy (32:51):
oh my

Gino (32:52):
Yeah,

Spoons (32:53):
Gets like in, she finds out through her this weird thing
from her brother who was missingthat he was involved with this
of Supernatural investigation.
So now she's in the bureau totry and find out what happened
to him.
Exactly.

Gino (33:07):
she gets sent to a summer camp for, she tells her mom
because her mom doesn't knowabout all the supernatural
things that her brother wasinvolved in.
And so she goes to this summercamp where it's actually this
bureau of Supernatural things.
And everyone else there has kindof known about it for a while.

(33:30):
This is where it's like HarryPotter esque, where it's a, it's
the school and you have like.
People who come from Mugglefamilies,

Wheezy (33:39):
Yeah.

Gino (33:40):
not muggles, but people come from normal families.
And the people who come from,they call'em legacy families.
So everyone who knows about allthe supernatural things and you
have to be nominated to get intoschool.

Wheezy (33:50):
Or

Gino (33:50):
Or you

Wheezy (33:51):
did.
'cause he was like

Gino (33:52):
Exactly.

Wheezy (33:54):
super awesome.
His family thought he had thisfancy job.
'cause that's what he said andthey couldn't know anything
about it.
And then he disappeared.
And this is like six months,this takes place like six months
later.
After like

Gino (34:03):
Probably

Wheezy (34:04):
trouble in

Gino (34:05):
It's been a while.
Yeah.

Wheezy (34:06):
really hard.
It's just Amari and her mom andQuentin, who's amazing.
And how old is he?
Because can I have a crush onhim?
Because I do

Gino (34:14):
I mean,

Spoons (34:14):
am.

Gino (34:15):
is out of high school.

Spoons (34:16):
Yeah.

Wheezy (34:17):
Because I'm like,

Gino (34:18):
I don't remember.

Wheezy (34:20):
he's so eligible.
You

Gino (34:21):
say it in other books, but I probably did not pay
attention.
He is

Wheezy (34:27):
a

Gino (34:27):
older.

Wheezy (34:29):
He's

Spoons (34:29):
he's older.
Yeah.

Gino (34:31):
I think he still counted as a child, but

Wheezy (34:33):
he is not.

Gino (34:35):
I dunno,

Wheezy (34:35):
twenties because isn't he like 10 years older than she
is

Gino (34:39):
I don't know.

Spoons (34:40):
think he's a young man.
Yeah, but I'm not sure exactly.

Wheezy (34:43):
over 18,

Spoons (34:44):
said you cannot have a crush on Quentin.

Gino (34:47):
Seems like he's a child

Wheezy (34:49):
He's a child.
You're being creepy.
Okay.

Gino (34:50):
also.
I'll let you, I was gonna say,I'll let you I'll help you out a
little, is that Wheezy is a lotyounger than me, so she might,
it might be a little betterthere.

Wheezy (34:59):
I forget that there's any age gap.

Spoons (35:01):
I know, me

Wheezy (35:01):
Know if that makes it that much better, but Quentin,

Gino (35:04):
I picture him like 22 is where I pictured him.

Wheezy (35:07):
pictured

Spoons (35:07):
that's kind of what I was thinking.

Wheezy (35:09):
why I'm probably am incorrect.
That's just what I was, he'sjust so competent.
Okay, listen.

Spoons (35:14):
You were wanting him to be, yeah.

Wheezy (35:16):
I'm just saying he has a very bright future ahead of him.
He is gonna make some person avery lucky partner.

Spoons (35:22):
Making Maria Van Helsing a

Gino (35:25):
Yeah, I agree with you

Wheezy (35:27):
Yes, I

Gino (35:28):
whole time.
I was just like is him and Mariain a relationship?
Maybe?

Wheezy (35:33):
Yeah,

Spoons (35:33):
ship it.
Let me tell you.
I ship it.

Wheezy (35:35):
Yeah.

Spoons (35:36):
then secondly, I would ship him with you wheezy if it
would make you happy.
But firstly, if Maria dies,

Wheezy (35:41):
level two, post Maria's

Spoons (35:43):
listen, they're really cute wheezy.
I'm sorry.

Wheezy (35:46):
I'm honored.
I can't believe I made

Spoons (35:48):
Oh, okay.

Wheezy (35:49):
second place.
That's amazing.
It's okay.
He's too young for me

Spoons (35:53):
I have a lot of ideas for, and see now I feel creepy
because the whole time, spoileralert, obviously I'm shipping
Dylan and Amari and Is this bad?
'cause they are like 13 and I'm28 and I'm like, I want them to
kiss.
And then I'm like, that's weird,right?
I probably shouldn't want themto kiss, but then I'm like, I do
though.
You know?

Gino (36:11):
No, I shipped them the whole time.

Spoons (36:13):
Okay.
Thank God, Myla.
Thank God I'm not the only one.
Yeah.
If I was 13 I'd be shipping it,so I'm like, you know, it's
fine.

Wheezy (36:20):
Milo's our creepy

Spoons (36:21):
Okay.

Wheezy (36:22):
are you guys?

Spoons (36:23):
I know she's like, okay enough.
The, so the van hell sings arethis ki Legacy family at the
bureau, obviously related to VanHelsing from Dracula.
And they are like really richand stuck up and stuff.
And so there are two two, soQuentin's partner Maria, who

(36:46):
have we've been discussing alsowent missing when he went
missing.
So that's this whole otherthing.
And then she has two youngersiblings who are twins who are
in like Amari's class for thelike.
Trainee thing, and their namesare Dylan and Laura.
Laura is so terrible and mean,and but I'm getting the feeling
that she will become moreimportant later in the series

(37:07):
And I'm just gonna have toforgive her for saying all that
means stuff.
But right now I don't.

Wheezy (37:12):
Picturing a

Spoons (37:13):
and

Wheezy (37:14):
for sure.

Spoons (37:15):
ugh, we're giving the wrong twin, the redemption arc.
That's what I'm saying.

Wheezy (37:18):
Completely agree.

Gino (37:20):
I don't know.
I think there's a possibilitythat Dylan has a redemption arc.

Wheezy (37:24):
might have a

Spoons (37:24):
I think so.

Wheezy (37:25):
I

Spoons (37:25):
I hope so.
I really hope so.

Wheezy (37:27):
for Percy Jackson, I was like, oh no, we did a Luke
twist.
Like I

Spoons (37:32):
I know,

Wheezy (37:33):
that Luke only, he didn't really get, I want that
for Dylan.

Spoons (37:38):
oh my God, I'm really not over it.
This happened like five hoursago for me, and I'm still

Gino (37:43):
I was like.

Spoons (37:43):
The level to which I was screaming in my car,

Wheezy (37:46):
I

Spoons (37:47):
I, we haven't even got even gotten there yet.
I.

Wheezy (37:49):
the day after I stopped.
We recorded the woman in white.
'cause I thought it's gonna takeme a while to get through this.
You know, like I'm just gonnagive myself plenty of time.
We only have a week between theepisodes.
I devoured the book in like twodays and so then I've just been
sitting

Spoons (38:03):
Yep.

Wheezy (38:04):
a whole five days here

Gino (38:06):
It's just like I need to talk to you.

Wheezy (38:08):
Yeah, and I was also like, I'm so scared.
I'm gonna forget, but it's sogood.
I haven't forgotten.
I'm

Spoons (38:13):
No.
Oh,

Wheezy (38:14):
remember.

Gino (38:14):
So

Spoons (38:15):
so

Gino (38:16):
they, um, you have the Van Helsing twins and their father
and mother are also high up inthe bureau.
Their father like runs theschool.
Like, or the agent?
The agents, yeah.
He is important.
Yeah.
I dunno, I don't know anythingabout Hi.
I don't know anything abouttheir mom.
I'm gonna be like, I don't knowwho she is.

(38:38):
Said she ran or she works in oneof the departments.
Yeah, but

Spoons (38:43):
oh,

Gino (38:43):
I just never knew her.

Wheezy (38:45):
Oh,

Gino (38:45):
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
I completely forgot about her.
So when I was reading the otherbooks, I was like, wait, they
have a mom?

Wheezy (38:51):
that's

Gino (38:52):
I thought I was like a single dad or something.
I completely forgot they evenmentioned her.

Spoons (38:57):
Where's the mom?

Wheezy (38:58):
he's the

Spoons (38:58):
Yeah.

Wheezy (38:59):
of the Bureau of Supernaturalist.
'cause it's, it is a summercamp.
That's how it's like built.
But it's also more than that,like a training program for
future So

Gino (39:08):
yeah.

Wheezy (39:08):
he is

Spoons (39:09):
Yeah.

Wheezy (39:09):
of the bureau.
And can we just really

Gino (39:12):
No, he,

Wheezy (39:13):
is like, you go to a hotel and you press the button,
like for like t like

Gino (39:17):
oh yeah.

Wheezy (39:17):
of the buttons 26 times and then like another door opens
and like, it's this, it is thisone of my favorite things that
Artemis Foul did too.
That's so hard to do.
It's like we have fantasy andscience fiction all at once and
I love it

Spoons (39:30):
Ooh.
Yeah.

Wheezy (39:31):
and Bebe

Spoons (39:32):
That is very Artemis Foul.

Wheezy (39:33):
oh God, it's so good.
And I love the fact that we'relike maybe in the basement of a
hotel but it's

Gino (39:39):
Yeah.

Wheezy (39:40):
underground I would assume.
I don't know.
It's, or in

Spoons (39:42):
This setup is very Percy Jackson to me.
Like 500th floor.
Please.
You know, it's like

Gino (39:48):
And the elevators all have personalities.
Oh yeah.

Spoons (39:52):
Oh,

Wheezy (39:53):
so quirky and

Spoons (39:54):
I love the elevators.

Wheezy (39:56):
It's got the exact, like the exact level of zany that you
want in a middle grade.
It's so All

Gino (40:02):
I remember when you

Spoons (40:03):
a way

Gino (40:03):
heard whisper,

Wheezy (40:05):
Yes, it does.

Spoons (40:06):
Oh, the what?

Wheezy (40:07):
thump, zany.

Spoons (40:08):
Yeah.
What were you saying, Myla?

Gino (40:09):
When she found out about Whisper, she just laughed
because Whisper only shouts

Wheezy (40:15):
I

Spoons (40:16):
Yeah, exactly.

Wheezy (40:18):
Whisper.

Spoons (40:18):
little details like that.

Wheezy (40:20):
It's so funny.
I loved

Spoons (40:23):
So good.

Wheezy (40:23):
favorite elevator.
That

Spoons (40:25):
oh yeah, that was good.
I liked mischief the

Gino (40:28):
Oh, yeah.
Mischief.

Spoons (40:29):
I'm looking the other way.
I don't know.
doing something fun?
I don't know.
Oh, can we talk about my girlElsie?

Gino (40:36):
I was just thinking that

Spoons (40:37):
Amari's roommate at the bureau is a girl named,

Wheezy (40:42):
she's the Grover equivalent.
Okay.
Continue.

Spoons (40:45):
nailed It.
You got me.
And I didn't even consider thatuntil right now, but she is the
Grover equivalent and yes, I dolove her.
She is like.
She's so cool.
She is a wear dragon, She hasn'tactually transformed yet, but
she like literally hatched froman egg off the coast of Mexico
in like an abandoned sunkenship, which is crazy.

(41:08):
She's like, I'm the last of mykind, so I don't really know how
to do it.
Anyway, I'm Elsie and I'm like,what?

Wheezy (41:13):
She's like, oh, and also I'm

Spoons (41:15):
And

Wheezy (41:15):
and I'm an inventor, and I'm like, oh God, I wanna be you
so bad.

Spoons (41:19):
she's so cute

Wheezy (41:21):
so adorable.
She reminded me of,

Spoons (41:23):
she has all these cool inventions.

Wheezy (41:25):
Wednesday the show Wednesday's roomie the werewolf.
With

Gino (41:29):
I could see that.
Yeah.
Yes.

Spoons (41:31):
yes.

Wheezy (41:32):
that

Gino (41:33):
Inez,

Spoons (41:33):
be her.

Wheezy (41:34):
yes, exactly.
With her, just like her generallike sweetness competency as

Spoons (41:39):
super sweet.

Gino (41:40):
I,

Wheezy (41:40):
And being

Gino (41:41):
yeah, I could see that.

Wheezy (41:42):
among the others.
Yeah.
Oh, and they both hadn't shiftedyet.
So

Gino (41:45):
Yeah.

Wheezy (41:46):
at that, Myla is like

Spoons (41:48):
Oh my God,

Wheezy (41:49):
like obviously

Spoons (41:50):
they're twins.

Wheezy (41:52):
Aw so sweet.

Spoons (41:53):
So they have to like, they go through like kind of a
Harry Potter esque

Gino (41:58):
Yes.
Sorting.

Spoons (42:00):
sorting situation.
Yeah.
But it's more, it's not likewhere they, it's more like they
get assigned like levels to likehow good the bureau thinks
you're gonna be at this job.
And so they like get Pokemonbadges.
And so Amari ends up getting aMoonstone badge, which there's

Gino (42:18):
The highest.
She like breaks the meter,

Wheezy (42:21):
It's fantastic.
I'm so

Spoons (42:23):
And there's only been 14 ever including her.
And one of them was Quentin.
So everyone's like, oh, bigstuff coming for Amari.
And, but then whenever they aregetting, everyone gets a
supernatural ability that like,it's just something that's like
enhanced from your normalpersonality.
but when she's going to get hersthis crazy, like stuff happens

(42:43):
in the crystal ball cracks andall this, or it appears to
crack, and they're like, oh God.
And they're like, oh no, she's amagician.
She has magic.
they all freak out.
And then that's when you learn.
It's bad to have magic already.
You're not supposed to alreadyhave magic.

Wheezy (42:59):
All criminals, every

Spoons (43:00):
yes

Gino (43:01):
is crazy like.
They're all like, oh we touchedthe crystal ball to get magic
because we like magic, and magicis cool, but if you have magic,
you're bad.

Wheezy (43:12):
Yeah.
If

Gino (43:12):
I think it's'cause of the history.

Wheezy (43:14):
Yeah.

Gino (43:14):
They're that's too much magic.
We only give you a little bit,so get out of here.

Wheezy (43:19):
Yeah.

Gino (43:20):
no one likes you.
They're just hating because twoguys were like, we're evil.
So they're just like, all of youguys are evil now.

Wheezy (43:28):
Yeah.

Gino (43:28):
because

Spoons (43:29):
The ninth Brothers,

Gino (43:31):
perhaps

Spoons (43:32):
Brothers.

Gino (43:33):
then I rather,

Wheezy (43:34):
two guys,

Spoons (43:35):
Yeah.

Wheezy (43:35):
The Knight Brothers.

Spoons (43:37):
So we learned, yeah, the Knight Brothers were like these
magicians who kind of gavemagicians like a bad rap,

Gino (43:44):
yeah.

Wheezy (43:44):
they were

Spoons (43:44):
invented vampirism.

Gino (43:46):
They're also like born magicians, which is special.
Special magicians.
Yeah, because magicians aregenerally made from other
magicians give, like they givethem their magic.
Like app apprenticeship of Yeah.
But the Knight Brothers wereborn magicians and Amari.
When they test her, they'relike, what?
You're a magician.
We gotta test you.

(44:07):
And they're like a hundredpercent magician.
This is unheard of.
Your blood is pure magic.

Wheezy (44:15):
So cool.

Gino (44:16):
I wonder who's the other born magician?

Spoons (44:19):
Oh, know who didn't guess at me.
Really?
I'm so stupid.
I,

Gino (44:23):
I have to say, I didn't fully guess it, but I went back
and forth throughout the wholebook being like, no, I don't
trust you.
He is bad.
Oh, okay.
I guess he wasn't, uh, no, Idon't trust you.
He's bad.
No.
The whole time I was like, who?
No.

Wheezy (44:36):
you

Gino (44:37):
He talked.
He talked and I was like.
No, you can't.
No.

Spoons (44:42):
cannot

Gino (44:43):
I wa

Spoons (44:43):
this.

Gino (44:44):
I have a whole story about that.
I, I walked.

Spoons (44:47):
about what we're talking about first.
So

Gino (44:48):
Yeah.

Spoons (44:49):
who

Gino (44:49):
we get there, when we get there.

Spoons (44:52):
Okay.
Okay.
So Dylan.
The other twin, the other VanHelsing twin is like nicer to
Amari than Laura, his sister,but she's not sure about him.
But then we find out that he'sactually behind this person
who's been texting Amari, who'slike, Hey, I know stuff.
I can help you.
And she's like,

Gino (45:10):
Magician girl.

Spoons (45:11):
actually Dylan.
And so then they become likefriends and partners,

Wheezy (45:15):
that was

Spoons (45:15):
so

Wheezy (45:16):
the username magician girl or whatever, and I

Gino (45:19):
Magic is just a girl.

Wheezy (45:20):
this was like a chick.
I was like, I believe

Gino (45:22):
Oh, yes.
Oh, yes.

Spoons (45:24):
her,

Wheezy (45:24):
Yeah, exactly.

Spoons (45:25):
and yet, even though he tricked her, I was like, he did
it for a good reason.

Wheezy (45:29):
school.
Yeah.
I had that moment too, where Iwas like maybe it's fine.
I guess that's clever.
You know, no one's gonna thinkthat.
He like used like his illusionmagic to look like a girl.
'cause he also did that to like

Gino (45:38):
Yeah,

Wheezy (45:39):
a

Spoons (45:39):
Yeah.
So he's a magician.

Wheezy (45:41):
a magician.
It's me.
It's me, Dylan.
And I was like.
Dylan, this was suspicious.
I guess

Spoons (45:46):
I was eating it up, let me tell you.
I was like, thank God Dylan's

Gino (45:51):
but

Spoons (45:52):
got so

Gino (45:52):
he is,

Spoons (45:53):
me when he became a magician.

Gino (45:54):
he has like technology magician, magic technologist.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's one of the many differenttypes.
I think I know them allactually.

Spoons (46:03):
Tell

Gino (46:03):
of the types,

Spoons (46:04):
I,

Wheezy (46:04):
they?

Gino (46:05):
Blood magic shadow magic, teleportation magic.
There's so many.
Hold on.
There is, oh, uh, okay.
There's elemental magic.
Weather wrist, which iscontrolling weather, illusions.
And there might be more, butthat's all I know of right now

(46:25):
off the top of my head.

Wheezy (46:26):
them all

Spoons (46:26):
was one.

Gino (46:27):
And you can only have two basically.
Basically.

Spoons (46:32):
okay.
Interesting.

Wheezy (46:35):
I did not pick up on

Spoons (46:35):
Oh, I can't wait to read more and learn more of the lore.

Gino (46:38):
Oh, also Spellcaster, I think, was only mentioned once
where you make magic.
I think that was Vladimir.
Vladimir.
They definitely used the wordspell weavers.
Yeah.
In there.

Wheezy (46:48):
Oh,

Gino (46:49):
Because I was like, oh, they,

Wheezy (46:51):
Look at that.

Gino (46:52):
Yeah,

Spoons (46:52):
that?

Gino (46:53):
I did, I don't think they ever were ever spell weavers.
I don't think I ever have like,heard of another one throughout
their entire book series.
They're like, oh yeah,Vladimir's a spell weaver.
Anyway, like they neverexplained that.

Wheezy (47:07):
Yeah.

Gino (47:07):
just like, let's just talk about the other types of magic
and ignore him.

Wheezy (47:11):
Yeah, that makes sense.

Spoons (47:13):
Interesting.
They're like, he He was cool.
You know,

Wheezy (47:16):
and bad, so we're just

Spoons (47:18):
don't worry about it.
It's fine.

Wheezy (47:19):
worry about him.

Gino (47:20):
we do find out that Amari is an illusionist.
Yeah.
That's her powers.
But that you're born with two,so well, given two.

Spoons (47:29):
Oh, that's so cool.
was like, these guys are socool.
But Dylan's been keeping it asecret because like obviously
he's a fan house singer and itwould be a big deal.

Wheezy (47:39):
yeah.

Gino (47:39):
a technologist and illusionist.

Spoons (47:42):
yeah, so

Gino (47:43):
Yeah.

Spoons (47:43):
the illusion that like, he got a different thing like
that he like, made everyonebelieve he wasn't a magician at
the ceremony thing.

Gino (47:51):
Yeah,

Spoons (47:51):
So now they're working together.
And then also Elsie and Amariworking together and they're all
like finding clues about Quentinand Maria and all that.
And there's a lot of stuff.
I don't

Gino (48:03):
because Quentin and Maria were the.
The star agents at the bureau.
So much so that they were likefamous.
Yeah, they were called Vanquishbecause they vanquish the bad
guys.

Wheezy (48:16):
Yeah, vanquish.

Spoons (48:16):
I love

Gino (48:17):
There's like posters of them on Elsie's wall and you'd
be so weird seeing your brotherjust on someone else's wall and
you wake up and you're like, ow.
Wait, what's that?

Wheezy (48:29):
I'd be like doodling faced, like mustaches and horns
and stuff on it.

Spoons (48:33):
That would be weird.
I didn't even think of that.
She's

Wheezy (48:36):
funny.
I,

Spoons (48:37):
really like, what is the big deal?
Yeah.
That's

Gino (48:39):
It's probably not weird to Dylan

Spoons (48:41):
and

Gino (48:41):
'cause he sees his face like everywhere.
'cause he is a Van Healthing, sohe is probably like, oh, it's my
sister.

Wheezy (48:46):
Yeah.
'cause

Spoons (48:47):
he is like, whatever.
I'm already famous.

Wheezy (48:50):
Dylan.

Gino (48:51):
So then in school, in order to become a agent, there's
like three tryouts or threetrials.
Tests and they basically getthrown into the first one
without Yeah.
Any warning.
They're like, oh, by the way,it's right now.

Wheezy (49:06):
I hate that.
That's one of my least favoritetropes.
You're

Gino (49:09):
oh yeah.
And lc is a scientist.
I,

Wheezy (49:12):
you're already in it.
And I'm like no.
I wanted to know when the testwas starting.

Spoons (49:16):
isn't.

Wheezy (49:17):
I'd be so

Gino (49:18):
but at least she didn't have to quit before.
Like Laura.
Like completely,

Wheezy (49:24):
that's true.
Laura did try to basicallyblackmail her, caught her
practicing magic with the bookthat Dylan gave her and recorded
it on her phone.
'cause she's a, she's definitelyan iPhone girly.
And it was basically like, ifyou don't drop out, there's only
this many spots for the junioragents open.
You better not take mine oranyone else's.
You're gonna drop outta theprogram tomorrow or you're gonna

(49:45):
switch whatever your, you know,focus

Gino (49:48):
yeah.

Wheezy (49:48):
And she does try to, Amari does try to go do that.
'Cause she obviously doesn'twanna like go to prison, which
is what would happenhypothetically if she was caught
using magic.

Gino (49:56):
Yeah.

Wheezy (49:57):
instructors won't let her until the next day.
And then that's when like,surprise, you're in the test
happens Basically blows it outtathe park.
She does amazing

Gino (50:05):
yeah.

Wheezy (50:06):
and she gets partnered with Dylan and they're the only
ones who actually pass.
I mean, they all pass, butthey're the only ones who like
pass

Spoons (50:14):
They win basically.

Gino (50:16):
Yeah.

Wheezy (50:16):
did because of Amari, because she's smart and she saw
things in a different way thaneveryone else saw them.
And yeah.
And so then at that point, Iguess had Laura tried to
basically blackmail her and belike, what are you doing?
Like winning this?
Like you have to drop out.
And Dylan was like, why?
And she was like, this video.
And he was like, what video?
Because he's a technologist andhe made it go away.

(50:38):
And he was like, you reallyshould just told me.
And she's like, yeah, I reallyshould have just told you.
Maybe you could have just like,

Gino (50:43):
Yeah, that's what I was thinking the whole time.
I was like, you know, he's atechnologist and one thing I
thought was like, I immediatelystarted like shipping them is
when he picked her up andtwirled her when they won.

Wheezy (50:55):
That was

Spoons (50:56):
thank you, Myla.
Exactly what I was thinking.
I was like in a public placewhere I couldn't freak out, but
I went like this.
I was freaking out.
That was so cute.

Wheezy (51:05):
sweet.

Gino (51:06):
Obviously you can see he liked her,

Wheezy (51:08):
Yeah.
Yes.

Gino (51:10):
her the whole time.

Wheezy (51:11):
Oh,

Spoons (51:12):
Yeah.
When he got her those shoes, hegot her the shoes.
Oh my God.
The scene with the flower, likefrom your drink

Gino (51:20):
Amari bloom.
Yeah.
So cute.
So cute.

Spoons (51:23):
like practicing illusions together.
And then he's like, you're thislittle blah, blah, blah.
He's like this little sprout.
'cause you're like, so cool.

Gino (51:32):
Yeah.

Spoons (51:33):
I'm gonna make it a flower.
And then they're like, oh myGod.
Like, that was so cool of us.
And I'm like, yes.

Gino (51:39):
Yeah, because like the whole time he's like flirting
with her clearly, and he's like,I, you are so pretty.
And then she's just like, oh,look at that.
And he's like, I'm flirting withyou.
And she is just ignoring him.

Wheezy (51:52):
funny.
She's like, I am here on amission and I have only one
thing that I truly care aboutand that's funny.
And I was like, this isexcellent.
Nothing distracts you.
You are so focused.

Spoons (52:01):
I know she really is.

Wheezy (52:03):
I love

Spoons (52:04):
She had like one throwaway line at the beginning
where she's like, I guess he'scute enough.
And I was like, that's goodenough for me.
You know?
Like,

Wheezy (52:09):
like, oh, she's interested.
And it was like very

Spoons (52:12):
yeah.

Wheezy (52:12):
otherwise, which

Spoons (52:14):
Yeah, I know.
She's busy.
She's got a lot going on, youknow,

Wheezy (52:17):
She's very busy and important.
Dylan's just gonna get in theway.
Sure enough.

Spoons (52:21):
but they make a really good cause they went through
like all the little trialstogether and they did a great
job.

Wheezy (52:27):
Yeah.

Spoons (52:27):
I was like, wow, they're really killing this trainee
thing.
And then Laura gets kicked out.
I was like, uhoh so sad.
Oh, nobody cares.

Wheezy (52:35):
Oh,

Spoons (52:36):
how much I dislike her.
Oh.
She like went beyond just likebeing rude though.
She was like, I was like, girl,

Gino (52:43):
She was bullying for sure.

Wheezy (52:44):
She was a full on bully.

Spoons (52:46):
He was

Gino (52:47):
She tried to bully her in every way possible.

Wheezy (52:50):
Yeah.
was

Spoons (52:52):
was bad.

Wheezy (52:53):
a good person.

Spoons (52:54):
No.

Wheezy (52:55):
Yeah.

Gino (52:55):
No wonder her brother did not hang out with her.
Oh.
Yeah, I feel like I had anearlier indication where I was
like Dylan might be the bad one.
But then for sure when he showsher, he gives her his magician
book, essentially.
And she's looking at it and thenhe is like, oh, you didn't see
this part?
And he turns to the back and,um, it's foul magic, which is,

(53:19):
like

Wheezy (53:19):
question this

Gino (53:20):
bad spells, um, spells that like take up a bad part of
you essentially.
And she's like, and he's tryingto convince her.
Yeah, like, look at this, don'tfocus on your brother.
No.
Look at the magic here.

Wheezy (53:33):
Yeah, he

Spoons (53:33):
The way that happened.
And I was just like, he's justtrying all his avenues.
You know?
He's really being so gracioustoo about the, he's being
resourceful.
And then she was like, I don'tthink that's a good idea, Dylan.
And he was like, you're right.
I, that was a bad idea.
And I was like, oh, he's sorespectful.
Like, what

Gino (53:50):
What?

Spoons (53:50):
with me?
I fell for it.
Walk line and sinker.
I was like, this boy is sosweet.

Wheezy (53:56):
really

Gino (53:57):
No.

Wheezy (53:57):
I just like dismissed it.
I was like, huh, interesting.
We're gonna see where that goeslater.
Sure.

Gino (54:03):
Hey guys.
I was definitely like,

Spoons (54:06):
picking up like

Gino (54:07):
you wanted them to be so bad.

Spoons (54:09):
wanted it to be true so bad.
That's what it was.
You know?
I really did.
I was really stupid.

Gino (54:15):
no.
I was like he's either acomplete idiot and gullible like
someone else.
I was like, there's somethingwrong with him, as in he's
either evil or he's talking tosomeone evil and he's like, oh,
it's not that bad.
Like, you know,

Wheezy (54:29):
Yeah.

Gino (54:30):
at that point.
And then,

Wheezy (54:32):
a Luke Kronos situation.

Spoons (54:34):
yeah.
Something like

Wheezy (54:36):
Bit.
End up kind of like that.

Spoons (54:38):
These little betraying blonde boys, they're like, it's
not that bad.
Like,

Wheezy (54:43):
trusting blonde boys spoons.

Spoons (54:45):
that's my other issue.
He's blonde.
Of course.
I was like, oh, I have such aweakness for them.
God, this was evil, Myla, andI'm blaming you.
Okay, now this is ruining mylife.
I was literally alreadythinking, I was like, oh my God,
I'm gonna look up Amari DylanFanfic when I get off work
today.
And now I'm like, Ugh, this is

Gino (55:05):
Yeah.

Spoons (55:06):
course I'm gonna read the next book, but.

Wheezy (55:08):
Yeah.

Gino (55:08):
yeah.

Spoons (55:09):
my God.
When

Gino (55:09):
I still don't think there's a chance.

Wheezy (55:12):
Yeah.

Gino (55:12):
gonna say, I still think there's a chance.
I mean, they basically endedthis book with being like you
know, you and Dylan are kind oflike how the world's gonna
happen.
So it can either happen asenemies or as friends, like, and
they're just also like, oh,also, you'll never see him
again.
That's kind of what they said.
They're just like, and he'llnever bother anyone again.

(55:33):
That's like them closing thestory.

Spoons (55:36):
I was like, do

Gino (55:37):
You know who we haven't.

Spoons (55:38):
13-year-old in solitary confinement?
Like, what's going on?
I,

Wheezy (55:41):
they're also like fully 13.
Like

Gino (55:44):
Yeah.
You're gonna,

Wheezy (55:45):
has

Gino (55:46):
So, yeah, they're just like, bye you'll never see the
light of day again.
We are an hour into this rightnow and we have not once
mentioned, uh, au Oh.
But like, evil, the main guy,and we're talking about like
Vladimir, but No, we justskipped right over him.

Spoons (56:04):
whatever.

Wheezy (56:04):
So

Gino (56:05):
he is the main, he is the one of the Knight brothers that,
um, is still in existence whoQuentin and Maria captured right
before their disappearance.
Yeah.

Wheezy (56:17):
I think you

Gino (56:18):
Van Quish ca captured right before their
disappearance.
They vanquished him and then

Spoons (56:23):
qued them.

Gino (56:24):
and then his apprentice kind of makes an appearance or
sends a letter or something andthey're like, okay.
So he has an apprentice nowthat's kind of trying to take up
his mantle.
And they think that's where, vanQuish is being held with the
Apprentice.
And Amari goes and talks to,excuse me Moreau in the cell

(56:48):
that they're holding him in.
And she is like, where's mybrother?
And he is like, I like you.
You're a magician.
Join our side or die.
And she's like, Hmm, I think Iwon't.

Spoons (56:58):
No,

Gino (56:58):
and then he is like, well, that's fine, but I have a plot
and it's gonna win.
It's a good one.
It's a doozy.
And you get donuts.

Wheezy (57:10):
He really was like, listen, my

Spoons (57:13):
Yeah,

Wheezy (57:14):
a very good plan.
It's the greatest

Spoons (57:16):
gonna wanna be on our side.
Okay.

Wheezy (57:19):
gonna wanna get in on this, get in on these donuts.
I mean,

Gino (57:22):
We have your favorite kinds.

Spoons (57:24):
don't think so.
Yeah.

Wheezy (57:26):
the part of me that would be so tempted if somebody
offered me donuts to dosomething evil, I know there
should be like no part of methat would be tempted, but I'd
be like, what kind of donuts arewe talking about?
How many donuts?

Gino (57:37):
I don't like donuts, so it wouldn't work.

Spoons (57:39):
yeah, it's like, he's like, I mean.
The Bureau is so mean to herabout the magic thing.
That part of me is like, I'd betempted a little bit, you know?

Gino (57:48):
No, I definitely felt the whole time, like the bureau is
way too black and white aboutmagicians.
You know, they're like, oh,you're a magician.
Nope, you're bad.
Like, we can't even look at you.
At least some of them are.
Yeah,

Wheezy (58:03):
I wanna

Gino (58:03):
exactly.

Wheezy (58:04):
rogue, person out here.
Like, I don't like either.

Spoons (58:07):
Yeah.

Gino (58:07):
Yeah.
I wouldn't like either two.

Wheezy (58:10):
Yeah.

Spoons (58:10):
yes.
Agreed.

Gino (58:12):
Of me was like,

Spoons (58:13):
me,

Gino (58:14):
I

Spoons (58:14):
oh, sorry.
Oh, they were just like the,what's it called?
The institute, like the MortalInstruments stuff.
'cause like they're the sameway.
They're like I don't know aboutthis.
We're very black and white abouteverything in this very gray
world.

Wheezy (58:27):
when

Spoons (58:28):
Yeah.
Maybe they're all just kindalike that.

Wheezy (58:30):
we just down with institutions.

Spoons (58:33):
Yeah.
We're going rogue.

Gino (58:36):
Part of me is like maybe the magicians are right and
maybe, yeah, the bureau is,should be taken dismantled.
Like

Wheezy (58:43):
I

Gino (58:43):
it's a

Wheezy (58:44):
times.
I was like, maybe these, like,again, like back to Luke.
Luke had some points.
Okay.
He was like, the, all of theGreek gods are really horrible
parents.
And I was like, you're right.

Spoons (58:54):
You

Wheezy (58:54):
correct.

Spoons (58:55):
right.
You know?

Wheezy (58:56):
Objectively correct, Luke.

Spoons (58:58):
I know.

Gino (58:59):
Okay.

Spoons (58:59):
But that's what makes a good villain.
If they have a couple goodpoints, you know, I'm like,

Gino (59:03):
yeah.

Spoons (59:04):
you know,

Gino (59:04):
So like how you, like, if they just randomly go, no, I'm
just gonna kill everyone.
That's eh, but if there's have apoint, like, guys, we're being
treated unfairly, so let's killeverybody.
That's more like,

Wheezy (59:17):
it

Gino (59:18):
eh,

Wheezy (59:18):
way, I could be convinced.

Gino (59:20):
are there donuts though?
So?

Spoons (59:22):
Right.
And there's donuts, you know,like,

Wheezy (59:24):
Donuts we're just stacking the reasons

Spoons (59:27):
okay, now I can see why you have henchmen.
You know, like, Okay.

Gino (59:31):
Oh, yeah.
And uh, Maru has these things.
Murro has these things, calledhybrids, which are attacking
everyone and they're halfanimal, half humans of all

Wheezy (59:44):
things.

Spoons (59:44):
It took

Gino (59:45):
Yeah.

Wheezy (59:45):
scary

Spoons (59:45):
way too long realize that this was like, until they
were like on his island, Ididn't even make the connection
to the island of Dr.
Moreau.
I was like, oh, it's Dr.
Moreau from the island.
Like,

Gino (59:58):
I didn't either.

Wheezy (01:00:00):
until

Spoons (01:00:00):
because

Gino (01:00:00):
you just said it.

Spoons (01:00:01):
he has the human animal hybrids, and I was like, oh, I
can't

Wheezy (01:00:06):
That makes so much sense.

Gino (01:00:08):
oh my gosh.

Spoons (01:00:09):
see.
Like, I don't know.
We are really focused on otherstuff, you know, that.

Wheezy (01:00:13):
myself.

Gino (01:00:15):
We're so narrow sighted of just like the Dylan Amari
situation that we're like, what?

Wheezy (01:00:20):
welcome to my, this is how I am with every book.
This is what it feels like to beme in every book.
You guys are like somethingreally obvious and I'm like,
didn't even remotely

Spoons (01:00:30):
Oh,

Gino (01:00:30):
Wait, we haven't even talked about like the first tr
wait.
No.
We have the first tr.
Oh yeah.
I mean, we didn't really gothrough it, but yeah.
Yeah, we kind of glazed

Spoons (01:00:38):
some

Gino (01:00:39):
over it.

Wheezy (01:00:39):
Glazed.

Spoons (01:00:40):
basically.
Should we kinda,

Gino (01:00:43):
donuts.

Spoons (01:00:43):
like we keep going everywhere.
So like, close to the end Iguess.
they get,

Gino (01:00:50):
We will just go to the end.

Spoons (01:00:51):
she's having like her, she's doing a presentation,
which I thought was so cute aswell, that

Gino (01:00:57):
Her final exam,

Spoons (01:00:59):
slot for your final exam.
And she is like, slay.
And she does her little thingwhere it's like, my name's
Amari, this is where I live,just to like humanize herself
for the people who work at thebureau

Gino (01:01:09):
she is from Rosewood, which is called the Wood.

Wheezy (01:01:12):
Uhhuh.

Gino (01:01:13):
I was like, Uhhuh.

Wheezy (01:01:14):
I was like, that's good.
That's funny.

Spoons (01:01:16):
She is so cute and I love her so much.
it was like so cute to me thatshe was doing that.
And then while, like immediatelyafter the bureau gets attacked
by the hybrids and theneveryone's freaking out and then
that's when they're like, oh mygosh, Maria Van Helsing did
betray Quentin and she's theapprentice And

Gino (01:01:39):
Okay.

Spoons (01:01:39):
Ah,

Gino (01:01:40):
I saw this here.
That's when I was like, it'sDylan.
I was like, he's using illusionstuff.
I knew it right then.
I was like, he's sneaking inthis way.
It's a distraction.
It's not Maria.
I was like, this is too, like,no, it's not Maria.
That's Dylan right here.
I saw this.

Wheezy (01:01:58):
God, what's it like to know

Spoons (01:01:59):
Like so

Wheezy (01:01:59):
I did not,

Spoons (01:02:00):
I cannot believe how badly I saw.
I saw nothing coming.
I just totally was like,anything you say is true.
I guess.
I don't know.

Wheezy (01:02:11):
from the beginning.
I just felt like Shirley, liketwo, like sibling team up, like
duos, like one after the other,like from the same.
I was like, I just,statistically this seems
unlikely.
So I'm

Spoons (01:02:22):
Something's wrong.

Wheezy (01:02:24):
with one of the two.
And I picked the wrong one.
I picked the one I knew nothing

Spoons (01:02:28):
Me too.

Wheezy (01:02:28):
basically.

Spoons (01:02:29):
Yeah, I thought that like the Dylan Amari one was
gonna be like the redeeming one.
Like oh.
But I don't know.
I was like, this one fell apart.
But this is like the secondchapter.

Wheezy (01:02:40):
Quentin was basically asking, or someone had asked him
if that he felt like Maria couldbe trusted essentially.
So like there was a red herringin there too.
It was like, can we trust Maria?
And I was like, I don't know.
Can we?
Yes.

Gino (01:02:52):
Dylan set those up the whole time.
Mm-hmm.
But I definitely, early on whenMilo was reading to me, what's
it, what's their vanquis, their.
Boss' name is, it's like MagnusMag.
I definitely early on

Wheezy (01:03:05):
Me too.

Gino (01:03:06):
Myla, I was like there's something fishy about him.
I was like, I don't trust him.
I was like, oh, really?
There's something fishy aboutMagnus.
Okay.
I was like, she was like, like aplot twist.
And I was like, yes.
I was like, yeah, like a plottwist.
And I was like you are right.
But it's Dylan.
Sorry.

Wheezy (01:03:26):
either will

Spoons (01:03:26):
You're almost right.

Gino (01:03:28):
No, I was like, I think I thought he had something to do
with, I don't remember what itwas that made me think that and
set me off.
I was like, I think he was justtoo like good.
He was too, like always stickingup for Amari and all this that I
was like, nah, like

Wheezy (01:03:45):
I,

Gino (01:03:45):
sticking up for her because you have ulterior
motives.

Wheezy (01:03:48):
It was, I was having

Gino (01:03:49):
I see how you thought that.

Wheezy (01:03:50):
Association, so I was like, he's probably

Spoons (01:03:52):
okay.
Thought he was at the perfectplace in the bureau to be evil.
Like if anyone was going to haveit to be a twist of villain, I
thought it might be him.
So I was kind of in the sameboat as Eugene.
But, then at the end I was like,oh.
And then I was like, oh, youknow, so there was a lot going
on.
Clearly at the very end.

Wheezy (01:04:10):
Oh.

Spoons (01:04:10):
Oh,

Gino (01:04:11):
so basically this book, I was like, oh okay, wait.

Spoons (01:04:16):
no way.
Ooh.

Gino (01:04:17):
That's how we should have just told the whole plot of the
whole thing.

Wheezy (01:04:20):
Honestly.

Gino (01:04:21):
So this is what happened.

Spoons (01:04:22):
I was like, oh.
my God.

Gino (01:04:23):
I knew that.
But, Wait.

Spoons (01:04:25):
basically then they're gonna go on what happens?

Gino (01:04:29):
Oh, so it's her trial, and then all these hybrids come and
then.
Dylan sees his sister.
So he runs to the secret vaultand then Amari's like, oh my
gosh, they're not attacking us.
They're going after the secretmagician book that the bureau
has that Morrow's trying to gethis hands on.
And so Dylan sees his sister runin, and so Amari follows as

(01:04:52):
well.
And then they hear like gigglingand laughing and it's the sis
Maria and she pops up and she islike, haha.
It was evil all along.
And, and then all the agentscome in and they're like, what's
going on?
And Dylan and Amari are like, itwas his sister all along.
Oh no.
And everyone's like shock anddisbelief and then.

(01:05:16):
They shut down the bureau theyput on lockdown because they're
like, how did she get throughall of our shields?
And Ari's like, she is probablya technologist like her brother,
but I'm not talking about thatbecause, you know, we're
protecting his secret.

Wheezy (01:05:29):
Yeah.

Gino (01:05:30):
And then Dylan's like, well, they know that they have
to get in order to look at thebook, they have to have the key.
You have to have the key in thebook in the same area.
And Quentin had figured outwhere the key was.
So they find out throughQuentin's research where the key
is, and they're like, we have togo after the key before they get
the book and the key together.

(01:05:50):
So Dylan helps Amari escape togo find the key.
And Elsie's like, I'll come withy'all and.
Just as they're trying to leave,they get to transport.
But Elsie's like, I'll stopthese agents who are trying to
stop you.
And they just see as like, theelevator doors are closing or
wherever transporting Elsiestarts breathing fire because

(01:06:12):
she, they found out that she hasto have like this act of courage
to turn into a dragon.
And that was her act of courageby stopping the agents from her
friend.
And I was like, go el.
See I love her.
Um, is she your favoritecharacter?
I don't know.
Um, and then they get to thisdoctor's house who has the key

(01:06:32):
and just as they're like outsideDylan's like, Hey, just promise
me you'll hear'em out.
Okay.
And i's like, wait, what?
Who?
Huh?
What?
And they get inside and, ohyeah.
Before this they figured outthat Morrow was that they had
imprison wasn't actually Morrow,it was a.

Spoons (01:06:48):
Yes.

Gino (01:06:48):
Murrow's apprentice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
With an illusion over him.
Amari figured that out.
So they walk in where they thinkthey're gonna find the doctor
and the key And it's Murrow.
Yes.
And he is like, hello, hello.
Amari.
Ha ha.
Evil laugh.
Evil laugh.

Wheezy (01:07:05):
chair.
I've been

Gino (01:07:06):
Where this cat?

Wheezy (01:07:07):
Yeah,

Spoons (01:07:08):
Yeah.

Gino (01:07:08):
And Damari is like, wait, what?
And Dylan like goes up and sitsnext to him and he's like, yes,
I am evil too.
Um,

Wheezy (01:07:17):
and

Spoons (01:07:17):
then Kendall screamed in her car for five minutes and
deposit.
I was screaming so

Gino (01:07:23):
yeah.

Wheezy (01:07:23):
profane in all caps.

Gino (01:07:25):
I was gonna say, she had spoons had sent a message
earlier in the chat today.
She's like, oh my gosh, I shitthem so much.
Don't tell me I'm not finishedthe book.
No spoilers.
And I was like, oh.
And I just finished the bookwhen you texted me that like
literally two minutesbeforehand.
And I was like, oh boy.
Oh, it doesn't go well.

Spoons (01:07:45):
I was like he, Not, I cannot stress enough to you.
How surprised I was.
Like,

Gino (01:07:52):
oh wait, so I can now tell the story of how I found out
about Dylan.

Spoons (01:07:57):
tell.

Gino (01:07:58):
So I was already suspicious of him.
I was like, there's somethingoff about this guy.
He just doesn't, it, it seemsrehearsed, like there's
something, he's just giving me abad guy type of guy.
So I was at lunch and with thisother guy, he dread it.
And I was like, so you've readthe book?
And I was asking him and we weretalking, and I was like, so what

(01:08:20):
do you think about Amari andDylan?
I shipped them.
And then he's like, oh yeah, Idid too.
And I was like, what do you meandid?

Wheezy (01:08:27):
Oh

Gino (01:08:28):
And then he is just like, oh, I mean, I mean, I was like,
yeah, I know.
He, he stabs her in the back andthen he's just like, I didn't
mean to spoil it for you.
And I was like, it's kind ofobvious though.
And I was like, okay.
So when I got to that part, Iwas like, yeah, this is when he
steps her in the back.
This is when it happens.

Wheezy (01:08:46):
ah, this is,

Spoons (01:08:47):
You are like, it's been foretold.

Wheezy (01:08:49):
them.
Can I too did

Spoons (01:08:51):
Oh my God.
Wow.

Wheezy (01:08:53):
you were on it, you

Gino (01:08:54):
but her bro, yeah.
Vanquish is there They're likeasleep, mostly dead.
Androse is like, yes, I'mstealing their life force in
order to resurrect Vlad.
Yeah.
And he's like, okay, so we'regonna do this thing now.
And then so sad, Amari, you haveto die.
Dylan's like, wait, Amari sodie.
What?

(01:09:14):
And he is like, yeah, duh.

Spoons (01:09:16):
But I

Gino (01:09:17):
so he,

Spoons (01:09:18):
her.
She's so pretty.
It's okay if you kill my sister,but don't

Gino (01:09:22):
no, but because, no, because I had a problem here.
Because he immediately, soDylan's like, yeah, no, that's
not gonna happen.
So he steals Oz's magic andkills him.
Yeah.
He's just like, um, no.
And then he's like, you don'tattack my girlfriends.
And then he is like, Amari, joinme.
And she's like, uh, no.
And he's like, okay, well then Iguess you have to die.

(01:09:42):
Like, he went from like, youwill not kill her.
She's my girlfriend.
I love her to, well, you're notgonna join the dark side.
So I guess he was right by,

Wheezy (01:09:52):
Oh

Gino (01:09:52):
he is more like I wanted to kill him anyway and he is
like, now.

Spoons (01:09:56):
He was like I kind already wanted

Gino (01:09:58):
I can just use his magic.
Bye-bye.

Wheezy (01:10:01):
Oh my gosh.
It's such a mess.

Spoons (01:10:03):
That was insane.
But see, this is how crazy I ambecause was like, no, I was so
upset.
Then two seconds later I waslike.
Okay, so now we're having a SARon Gala, Riel vibe.
We're having like a cool likevillain, like she's so cool.
It's cooler than him vibe.
I was like okay.
I can go with this too.

(01:10:24):
I like immediately justswitched.
I was like, okay, he's notsweet.
Okay, that's fine.
Like that's how crazy I am.

Wheezy (01:10:30):
I kind of still shipped Luke and Anna Beth for a while
too, so eh, you know, I see it.

Gino (01:10:35):
What I think, like when I read the book was I was like,
wait, why does he hate hissister?
What happened there?
And they don't explain it in thebook.

Wheezy (01:10:45):
fair.

Gino (01:10:46):
like the second book is when you actually learn.
And I'm kind of just like, Iknow it's important that you
learn the second book, but wherewas that in the first book?

Wheezy (01:10:55):
Yeah.

Gino (01:10:55):
He was just I hate her, so I'm fine with if she dies along
with your brother and you.

Wheezy (01:11:01):
Yeah.

Spoons (01:11:02):
Thought it was somewhat irredeemable that he was like I
am going to kill our siblings.
I was like, oh okay, so you're13 and that's bad.
Okay.
Interesting.

Wheezy (01:11:14):
gosh.
13.
Committing fracture side.

Spoons (01:11:17):
Okay.
I'm glad to hear that there issome,

Gino (01:11:20):
Yeah, he needs a therapist.
He seriously needs a therapist.
And instead he's just like, I'mjust gonna kill my siblings
'cause they're clearly theproblem.
I'm just gonna go over there,kill my sister, and you.
What?
Let's just kill the entireworld.
I don't need a therapist.
What

Wheezy (01:11:36):
knows I'm

Spoons (01:11:37):
Yeah.
Yeah.
It can't be me.
It's everyone else.

Wheezy (01:11:41):
Dylan.
I'm

Spoons (01:11:42):
You're so right, girl.
Oh, you know what, Dylan sucks.
Actually, I changed my mind.
was really bad.
He shouldn't have done that.
I

Gino (01:11:50):
yet?
He's my favorite character.

Spoons (01:11:53):
Okay.

Gino (01:11:53):
don't,

Spoons (01:11:54):
Like

Gino (01:11:54):
yeah.
I liked him throughout the wholeseries.
He's still my favoritecharacter.
Every single book.
I don't care if he's bad,

Wheezy (01:12:01):
interesting.

Gino (01:12:02):
I don't care.
He's still the best character.

Wheezy (01:12:04):
that

Gino (01:12:04):
I just prefer bad guys for some reason.
They just have a better plotbecause they always have better
motives.
They're just better.

Wheezy (01:12:14):
You have a very interesting future ahead of you.
Yeah, I get that.
I still get

Spoons (01:12:19):
Hi.
I mean, that is valid

Wheezy (01:12:21):
one of the,

Spoons (01:12:22):
Yeah.

Wheezy (01:12:22):
I FIC Fictionally.
It's

Spoons (01:12:24):
Though,

Wheezy (01:12:25):
think about The

Spoons (01:12:25):
that's what it's darkling,

Gino (01:12:27):
See

Wheezy (01:12:28):
Yeah.

Spoons (01:12:29):
Like it's very like, no,

Gino (01:12:31):
what?

Spoons (01:12:31):
world together.
We both are so powerful andwe're always be connected by
this bond, and that's whatreally does it for me.
I'm like,

Wheezy (01:12:38):
an equal.

Spoons (01:12:39):
yeah,

Gino (01:12:40):
I don't know.
I was still always a little Mao,which is like weird for me.

Spoons (01:12:45):
The little mal, oh my God.
In the second book, he has aDylan has, I am become a blade
tattooed ice.

Wheezy (01:12:52):
I'm gonna wake up my sleeping child.
That's hilarious.

Spoons (01:12:55):
is so crazy.
I'm like freaking out about thisseries already.
I can't

Gino (01:13:00):
But what is kind of crazy is that the adults walked in on
a 13-year-old child and they'rejust like, okay, so he has these
two people who are sleeping.
Why not?
We just throw him in prison, lethim rock for the rest of his
life.
See what that'll do for him.
You know, he's only 13.
There's not much left to live.
It doesn't matter what choice hemade.

Wheezy (01:13:22):
Clearly not gonna learn anything else.
He is completely a fully bakedperson at the age of

Gino (01:13:26):
not give him a therapist, not a, like, maybe get him a
little bit of prison and seewhat happens.
No, they're just like, no, throwhim in and let him die.
I don't care.
Like, and also the father, likethey said that he went to the
prison and they never saidanything about their, his father
or anything.
I bet his father was just like,oh yeah, kill him.

(01:13:47):
I don't care.

Wheezy (01:13:48):
That was also

Spoons (01:13:49):
probably would honestly.

Wheezy (01:13:50):
like they're like, we kind of treat the kids like
adults sometimes.
Expectations

Spoons (01:13:56):
going to listen forever.

Wheezy (01:13:58):
Yeah.

Spoons (01:13:59):
also thought that was insane, Myla.
I was like, I'm so sorry.
Like we're not going to try andrehabilitate the preteen.
Okay.
That is a little

Gino (01:14:07):
They were ready to just toss Amari in jail forever.
Like the second she showed uptoo.

Wheezy (01:14:13):
that one really scarred me.
I was like, you can't, she's a

Spoons (01:14:15):
yeah.

Wheezy (01:14:16):
with Dylan.
I was

Gino (01:14:17):
Yeah.

Wheezy (01:14:17):
I should care more, but like, you've really gotten
yourself into a pickle, Dylan.
Like

Gino (01:14:22):
But I feel like if Dylan revealed himself before then his
father would immediately justlike put handcuffs on him and be
like, okay, you're not my son.
Get out.
Yeah.

Wheezy (01:14:31):
He was

Gino (01:14:31):
So he's,

Spoons (01:14:32):
disowned.

Gino (01:14:33):
also like, it is not like his like sister would stop it or
anything.
'cause like she's probably withher dad on that.

Spoons (01:14:41):
She'd be like, good more money for me.

Wheezy (01:14:44):
Huh?
You can see how he turned evil.
And that is the danger when youcan start to see how the boys
turn evil and you're like, butnow I understand them.

Spoons (01:14:52):
That is the That is bad.

Gino (01:14:54):
It all starts with the blonde.

Wheezy (01:14:56):
It

Spoons (01:14:56):
Ugh.

Wheezy (01:14:57):
with the blonde boys.
Never trust a blonde boy.

Spoons (01:14:59):
I know.
And I do.
Every time it's like, God, Ikeep thinking they're all gonna
be PETA and then they're not,and it's like, good Lord,

Gino (01:15:07):
No, they never are.

Wheezy (01:15:08):
been that way.
There's only ever been

Spoons (01:15:10):
Yeah.

Wheezy (01:15:11):
for a trustworthy blonde boy.

Spoons (01:15:13):
Myla, what did he say?

Gino (01:15:14):
No.
Oh.
Like when I make characters likein d and d or something I make,
if they're a bad guy, I makethem normally, especially if
they're a boy, they're blondes.
I don't know if that's becauseof Dylan.
'cause I read him like in fourthgrade and I was just like, you
know what, all boys who arevillains are blonde,

Spoons (01:15:32):
They're Now forever.

Gino (01:15:35):
like every single person.

Wheezy (01:15:37):
Jackson.
Every blonde boy is a,

Gino (01:15:40):
Yeah, they're just like, so if you're blonde, Draco,
malfoy, it's immediate.
Like Draco Malfoy, everyonewho's blonde is just immediately
like,

Wheezy (01:15:49):
Harry

Gino (01:15:49):
oh

Wheezy (01:15:50):
None of them were blonde.
Huh?

Gino (01:15:52):
yeah.
Also, when she first like Redditand, uh, they said Statue Boy,
which was like, Dylan before,like we knew his name.
She's like, that's Draco malboy.
That's KO mal.
I did boy, like, as they were,she was reading it to me and
when they were introducing Dylanand they were like, he's like
this pretty blonde boy sittingthere with like his turned up

(01:16:14):
nose.
And when I was like, Draco.

Spoons (01:16:16):
Called immediately.

Wheezy (01:16:17):
good.

Spoons (01:16:18):
gosh.

Wheezy (01:16:18):
That's fantastic.
Okay.
Okay favorite and least favoriteparts.
Starting with

Gino (01:16:22):
Myla.
Oh.
I liked when he betrayed her, Iguess.
And maybe the Amari bloom.
Amari bloom too.
I think my favorite moments arealways with my favorite
characters because it's justperfect to see their trauma or
see their pain or something.
Perfect.

(01:16:43):
To see people's pain is, and TVshows or books or something is
amazing.
I like that.

Spoons (01:16:47):
need to have you on every episode.
Like I wanna hear your takes oneverything we read.
I'm so serious.

Wheezy (01:16:54):
She's like, you know, the

Spoons (01:16:55):
It's our new guest.

Wheezy (01:16:56):
to pieces.
That was my favorite.

Spoons (01:16:58):
like, that is so real though.
Like, I feel you.

Wheezy (01:17:02):
What about your least favorite part?

Gino (01:17:04):
I'm trying to think of the part probably my least favorite
part I don't even remember.
I'm gonna be honest.

Wheezy (01:17:09):
the whole book was good.

Spoons (01:17:11):
It was

Gino (01:17:12):
I have no idea because I read this again in like fourth
grade.
So probably all the bad parts Ididn't care about, they just
disappeared.

Wheezy (01:17:20):
I

Gino (01:17:20):
So

Spoons (01:17:22):
we don't need

Gino (01:17:22):
I don't know.

Wheezy (01:17:23):
That's fine.
That's all good.
Gino.

Spoons (01:17:26):
totally valid.

Gino (01:17:27):
I am okay.
I'm just gonna go with my it'sprobably not my favorite part,
but there was this littlesnippet that I wrote down
because I was cracking up.
They were talking about Yetisand

Wheezy (01:17:40):
I know what you're talking about.
was funny.

Gino (01:17:43):
and, um, I don't re Oh, they were talking about like how
they would just like buy out awhole forest if people there
were annoying them and Amari waslike, are they that rich?
And Elsie was like, I mean, theyown this whole cooler company.
That's really big or something.

Spoons (01:17:59):
that was really funny.

Gino (01:18:01):
And I was like, Yeti coolers.
Oh my,

Wheezy (01:18:04):
so

Gino (01:18:05):
Yeti coolers.
Um, that made me crack up enoughthat I wrote it down.
And then least favorite part is,actually, I'm gonna say I was a
little bit disappointed thatMagnus wasn't in on the plot at
the end.

Wheezy (01:18:21):
We need at least like a stable adult figure, Gino.

Gino (01:18:25):
No.
I was like,

Wheezy (01:18:26):
up to, someone to take care of them.

Gino (01:18:28):
just make them all evil.
All the kids will soon follow.
I was like, oh, bummer.
Yeah.
So I'll go with that as my leastfavorite.

Wheezy (01:18:37):
Oh my god.

Spoons (01:18:38):
Oh my God.

Wheezy (01:18:39):
So many Myla.
You're so quotable.
I'm sure you know

Spoons (01:18:43):
I know you're killing me.

Wheezy (01:18:44):
t-shirt.
Just make all the adults evil.
The children will soon follow.

Spoons (01:18:48):
They will soon follow Slay.
Oh my God.
Yes.

Wheezy (01:18:53):
That's

Spoons (01:18:53):
all going to be evil.
That's what we want.

Gino (01:18:56):
What about, no, a good book would just be everyone's
evil.
And then the main character'slike, but guys, what if we're
not evil?
And everyone's like, no, I'mokay.

Wheezy (01:19:05):
No, I think we're all gonna be villains.

Spoons (01:19:07):
If we

Gino (01:19:07):
are all villains.
If we were villains.
All right.
Wheezy favorite and leastfavorite part.

Wheezy (01:19:13):
Oh God, I thought I was gonna go last.
I hadn't even thought

Gino (01:19:16):
I needed it.
That's why I threw it up.
Threw it in there.

Wheezy (01:19:19):
Favorite part.
I really liked all of the likelittle inventions, which is not
like a specific part.
They're just all sprinkledthroughout, but especially like
Elsie's inventions.
And then just like theInventions they had throughout
the bureau.
I just, I loved the, like it didfeel like Artemis fell.
I loved that.
Like I say the world building?
I love the

Gino (01:19:36):
Yeah,

Spoons (01:19:37):
Yeah.

Gino (01:19:37):
The little sneak candles.
Oh,

Wheezy (01:19:40):
This was so that were

Spoons (01:19:40):
I love the sneak candles.

Wheezy (01:19:42):
be very hard

Spoons (01:19:42):
That was cool.

Wheezy (01:19:43):
I enjoyed the whole book so much.
So I'm gonna say world building.
Favorite.
I don't, I was really.
I was really stressed out forAmari Quentin's mom.
was like, this Idea where herbaby boy is, and now her
daughter is off at this summercamp, and then she's been
notified she's gonna come home,but then Amari's gonna go off
somewhere else since I was like,I would lose my freaking

(01:20:04):
bananas.
Like this poor mother is justtrying to take care of her
children.
Not that it was really part ofthe book, but in the background,
every time anything happenedabout like Quentin nor Amari, I
was like, oh my God, their mom,their poor mother.

Spoons (01:20:16):
Oh

Wheezy (01:20:17):
I could think about.

Gino (01:20:18):
fair, fair.

Spoons (01:20:19):
that is scary.
My favorite parts were alsoMaya's favorite parts, like
those two.
And then also I really liked thescene where they went to the
like ghost party whatever thatwas

Gino (01:20:33):
Oh yeah.

Spoons (01:20:33):
the Elsie and Dylan and Amari like kind of snuck out.
That

Gino (01:20:37):
All Souls.
All Souls Festival or something.

Spoons (01:20:40):
Yeah.
Until then it got sad at the endbut

Gino (01:20:42):
I

Spoons (01:20:42):
it was really cute.
And then least favorite.
I don't even know.
Oh,

Gino (01:20:49):
was it that.

Spoons (01:20:50):
Girl, the, somebody like drew that mean picture on
Amari's wall and she wanted to

Gino (01:20:54):
Oh yeah.

Spoons (01:20:55):
I hated that part.
I mean, it was like made sensefrom a plot point of view, but
like, it made me feel sad, so Ididn't like that.
But yeah.

Wheezy (01:21:03):
What about favorite and least favorite characters, Myla,

Gino (01:21:06):
Oh, favorite.
Obviously Dylan, obviously,

Wheezy (01:21:10):
right, Obviously to you and to us.
Now that we've spoken to you,but that would've been hard for
me

Gino (01:21:15):
I told you I called it.
I feel like I do that to peoplebecause I talk to my friends,
I'm like, and then this one guy,and I just start ranting about
them and then I'm just like, sowhat are you guys' favorite
characters?
And they're like Him.
Yeah, but definitely him.
I think I did that with thisbook too.
'cause my friends, one of themlikes Elsie, but I think the
other one likes Dylan too,because I was like, so Dylan.

Spoons (01:21:39):
All your friends on your side,

Gino (01:21:41):
Yeah, if I'm in an argument, I'm just like, but
everyone I know likes Dylan, sowhat are you gonna do?

Wheezy (01:21:46):
If you lead with evil, the children will soon follow.

Gino (01:21:49):
Least favorite.

Spoons (01:21:50):
to live by.
We don't even need lessonslearned.
That's what we learned, youknow?
That's it.

Wheezy (01:21:56):
Oh gosh.

Gino (01:21:57):
I, okay.
Oh, I don't know.
'cause all the characters aregood.
I Okay.
Just in the first one, uh,because I know who I hate the
most in the other books, but,

Spoons (01:22:09):
Oh

Gino (01:22:10):
in the first one for some reason, I wanna say Fiona, the
agent.
Fiona, I, I don't know why Iliked her.
No, I think she's a great, I,she's a great person.
I don't know why that's poppingout to me.

Wheezy (01:22:23):
she's good

Spoons (01:22:24):
Is she boring to you?

Gino (01:22:25):
I don't know.
I'm just gonna say Dylan's mom,because I don't know her and she
just seems to be like, oh yeah,my mom, blah, blah, blah.
I've been just like, never talksabout their mom.

Wheezy (01:22:37):
No,

Gino (01:22:37):
Like, where is she?
I don't know.
Where's his mom's?

Wheezy (01:22:42):
'cause I was gonna say my least favorite character is
Amari and Quentin's fatherbecause he is an absent father.

Gino (01:22:46):
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
He's no, yeah, he's bad.

Spoons (01:22:50):
too.

Gino (01:22:51):
Yeah.
Then he's my worst character.
Yeah.

Wheezy (01:22:53):
Yeah.

Spoons (01:22:54):
we go.

Wheezy (01:22:55):
All right, Gino.

Gino (01:22:56):
My favorite character I think is Elsie.
I think so.
She's so cute.

Wheezy (01:23:02):
She's

Spoons (01:23:02):
I love,

Gino (01:23:03):
Yeah.
And then my least favorite isMagnus.
'Cause I'm just disappointed.
He wasn't

Wheezy (01:23:10):
just debating in

Gino (01:23:11):
really

Wheezy (01:23:11):
I was just debating that he might be my most favorite
character.
I like Magnus.

Gino (01:23:16):
No.
Like

Wheezy (01:23:17):
a steady,

Gino (01:23:18):
is.

Wheezy (01:23:19):
father figure

Gino (01:23:20):
No one is that good.
Magnus is great.
What are you talking about?
No.

Wheezy (01:23:24):
Magnus is not.
I know.
I did not, I didn't really viewhim as like perfect.
I was like.
He's not very nice.
Like when she, when Amari's momwas dropping her off and he was
there, I was thinking like, youneed to look friendlier.
Like you are looking like you'retaking charge of this woman's
daughter.
Like he's

Gino (01:23:41):
No, it always felt like, it always felt like just enough
his roughness or meanness oranything was always just enough
to be like, not suspicious, butnot far enough to actually be
meaningful at all.

Wheezy (01:23:55):
No, I want him I'll trust him if he's mean.

Gino (01:23:57):
yeah, I was like, you can, I don't know, I just, from the
very beginning I was like, also,I shit Magnus and Fiona because
of the date.

Spoons (01:24:05):
Yes.

Gino (01:24:06):
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.

Spoons (01:24:07):
that was so cute.

Gino (01:24:08):
She is so cute.
Fiona.

Wheezy (01:24:10):
much Fiona's, like, you know how I'm totally out of your
league Magnus, and he is like,ah, this

Gino (01:24:15):
And there's.

Wheezy (01:24:16):
she is.

Gino (01:24:17):
There was some point when someone said something to Magnus
about, I don't remember what itwas, like losing weight or
getting a haircut or something,and she was like, yeah, I agree.
I've been telling you,

Wheezy (01:24:28):
like a couple times where she was like, yeah, get a
haircut.
Like, it was very funny.

Spoons (01:24:33):
They were really cute.

Wheezy (01:24:34):
They were really cute.

Gino (01:24:35):
Spoons

Spoons (01:24:37):
my favorite character was either Dylan or Elsie.
There might be Tide for becauseI think Dylan is the best
character because,

Gino (01:24:47):
you all missed.
If you're just listening, youmissed wheezy rolling her eyes
at that.

Spoons (01:24:51):
because he is complex.
But Elsie was my favoritebecause she's sweet and cute.
So it's like, you know, theyhave two sides of that.
Yeah.
And she's very cool.

Wheezy (01:25:02):
don't

Spoons (01:25:02):
And smart.

Wheezy (01:25:03):
you were attacking

Spoons (01:25:04):
I

Wheezy (01:25:04):
You listed her as a favorite

Spoons (01:25:05):
Isaac

Gino (01:25:06):
Just like,

Spoons (01:25:06):
favorite.
Another thing I liked aboutElsie was that she was like a
very like, attentive friend.
Like Amari was very like shewould make Amari

Gino (01:25:15):
oh yeah, she was, yes.
Yeah.

Spoons (01:25:17):
she's

Gino (01:25:18):
was like, you have to eat.

Spoons (01:25:19):
to stop studying.
Yeah.
Like, I thought that was socute.

Wheezy (01:25:23):
I don't know.

Gino (01:25:24):
I need a lc in my life.

Wheezy (01:25:25):
and Amari, I, they were both such great characters.

Gino (01:25:29):
needs a freaking lc in her life.

Spoons (01:25:31):
take a nap.

Gino (01:25:32):
Yeah, you ma'am.

Spoons (01:25:34):
You kind of do.
I'm sorry, I can't be more LCtoo.
I'll try.

Wheezy (01:25:38):
Go take a

Spoons (01:25:38):
I'll just call you in the middle of the day.
Are you taking a nap yet?

Wheezy (01:25:42):
Working.

Spoons (01:25:42):
of course.
Amari is very

Gino (01:25:44):
See, yes, I'm asleep right now.

Spoons (01:25:45):
nothing I love Amari.
She was a great main character.
It's just

Wheezy (01:25:49):
so

Spoons (01:25:49):
Aren't your favorite because it's But

Gino (01:25:51):
Yeah.
But she was great.

Wheezy (01:25:52):
Oh

Spoons (01:25:52):
I think she's so cool.
And I love, like her as anarrator too.
I think she's really fun and shetells me everything I need to
know.
My good friend Amari.

Wheezy (01:26:01):
so focused.
She's fantastic.
I would follow her into

Spoons (01:26:04):
She's so cool.

Gino (01:26:05):
Like I said, I think Bebe did such a great job with her
voice.
Like I had no idea it was a malewriting it, and I was like this,
like I, she had such a presence.

Wheezy (01:26:15):
Yeah,

Spoons (01:26:15):
Yeah, she is really awesome.
I really do want her and PercyJackson to hang out.
Don't you think they'd befriends?

Wheezy (01:26:21):
would be

Spoons (01:26:22):
Like

Wheezy (01:26:22):
friends.
Amari might also be like kind oftrying to fight him a little
bit, but mostly I think they'dget along, but I think

Spoons (01:26:29):
they're both a little scrappy.

Wheezy (01:26:31):
They're very scrappy, but Amari is also like fully 13
and like like, you wanna go?
You wanna go.
Like she's gonna fight.
if you're like, no, that wasactually, I wasn't being
offensive.
And she's like, let's justfight.
I think the only way to solvethis is if we fight it out.
Fuck.

Spoons (01:26:47):
She is so smart though.
She is like, also like, you knowwhat?
I'm going to outwit everybodyhere, and I'm like, slay.
You know who never do that?
Percy Jackson, but that's okay.
He's,

Wheezy (01:26:57):
right.
Sweet, sweet, Percy.

Spoons (01:26:59):
he would never, but it's okay.
He has Annabeth.

Wheezy (01:27:02):
Yes.

Gino (01:27:03):
What I think is so smart is when she was like in the
trials and she's like, I leftsoaking wet and like all the
water stuff.
And I was like I did not getthat.
And also I not as smart as theother people'cause they're like,
I would pick the crown.
I'm like, oh, I probablywouldn't pick the crown either.
I, I would just pick one of theother random stuff.

Wheezy (01:27:24):
Would've been like, I found this book and they're
gonna be like that.
That's nothing.
That's

Gino (01:27:29):
I thought it was like your partner.
I was like, oh, if you leavewith your partner, like they're
the, they're then you would failbecause he just completely got
thrown against the wall.
And

Wheezy (01:27:40):
I.
did think the second that shesaid the water, I was like, oh.
And because she's soaking wet,she has the water on her.
Ha.
And,

Spoons (01:27:46):
Oh, clever.
You got that.

Wheezy (01:27:48):
on its own.
Only when she already said itwas the water and I was like,
cool.
She's all wet.

Spoons (01:27:52):
She did it.

Wheezy (01:27:54):
She did it right?

Spoons (01:27:55):
That Good test.

Wheezy (01:27:57):
yeah.

Gino (01:27:57):
did you have the least favorite spoons?
Did you say that?

Spoons (01:28:00):
Oh I don't know, probably honestly, Laura, I
hated

Gino (01:28:04):
Oh yeah.

Wheezy (01:28:05):
Oh

Gino (01:28:05):
fair.

Spoons (01:28:06):
I know I'm probably gonna end up liking her later in
this series, but right now Ihate her,

Gino (01:28:09):
Yeah.
She's not the best.

Spoons (01:28:11):
Okay.

Wheezy (01:28:12):
is like, no, she's

Spoons (01:28:13):
Me and Myla are on the same About this stuff, except
for she's smarter than me andhas figured it all out way
before me.
But in terms of what we enjoy, Ithink we're on the same page, so
you know.

Gino (01:28:23):
Wey.

Wheezy (01:28:23):
about pinkies up?
We

Gino (01:28:25):
Wait, Weezy,

Wheezy (01:28:26):
of what

Gino (01:28:28):
did you guess your favorite and least?
Oh, okay.
Yeah.

Wheezy (01:28:30):
did.

Gino (01:28:31):
Okay.

Wheezy (01:28:32):
She is like, Gino's

Gino (01:28:33):
I was here.

Wheezy (01:28:34):
me.

Gino (01:28:35):
No, I may have been looking because, wait, no, I may
have been looking because I havea favorite quote.
So I was trying to find it inthe book, the

Spoons (01:28:43):
I

Gino (01:28:43):
quote, favorite quote, so I may have not listen to you
because I had to quote,

Spoons (01:28:46):
Oh.

Wheezy (01:28:46):
Okay.

Spoons (01:28:47):
Do your quote, Gino.

Gino (01:28:48):
This book.
I actually have two favoritequotes.
Okay.

Wheezy (01:28:51):
Ooh.

Gino (01:28:52):
the one is said by Jayden, who we haven't mentioned, but
he's a not supernatural personwho was just part of her life in
Rosewood

Wheezy (01:29:03):
Ugh.

Gino (01:29:03):
and.
She goes back home for a shortbit and sees him and he's
talking about, she's talkingabout how she's kind of a
failure and he's talking abouthow she compares herself to her
brother all the time and hesays, can't be easy.
Having Quentin Peters as yourbrother, it's like being the
second best basketball player inthe whole world.

(01:29:24):
But your brother's the best.
You'd grow up losing all thetime and thinking you suck, but
everybody else, the peoplewatching, we see you pulling off
moves.
We only wish we could, we ableto see how great you are.
Which I was like,

Wheezy (01:29:37):
That's really good.

Gino (01:29:38):
that's deep.

Wheezy (01:29:40):
That's very deep.

Gino (01:29:41):
like, like you're the second best person in the world,
but because you're alwayscomparing yourself to someone
right next to you is like thebest.
You know, you always think yousuck, but which people do a lot
in life.
So yeah,

Wheezy (01:29:52):
Yeah.

Gino (01:29:53):
you just have to think what other people are also
seeing and then.

Spoons (01:29:58):
glad you brought that up.

Gino (01:29:59):
And then towards the end I think this is something Quentin
said to her, but I might bewrong.
As long as you believe inyourself and as long as you bet
on yourself and believe you cando anything.
And I was like, that is alsotrue.
Like you just have to believe ormaybe it, she said it to
herself, but like, believe inyourself and bed on yourself and

(01:30:19):
you can do it.
It's like this is a veryinspirational motivating

Wheezy (01:30:23):
inspirational.

Gino (01:30:25):
Middle grade book.

Spoons (01:30:26):
into that with herself.
'cause she kept kind of sellingherself short and then like
Jaden was like, dude, you alwayswere like top of our class, like
blah, blah, blah.
And she's like, oh yeah, I guessI am smart and capable.
You know, like she was always.
Kind of selling yourself short,even though we, as the readers
are like, you are so cool.
Amari Peters, queen of theworld.

(01:30:47):
I was like, girl, get it.

Wheezy (01:30:48):
it's true.

Gino (01:30:49):
Okay, go ahead.
Pinky's up.

Wheezy (01:30:51):
Pinkies up.
So we rate'em On a scale of oneto five, five being the best and
one being the worst, how manypinkies up would you rate this
book?
Myla?

Gino (01:31:01):
And you could do points like, okay.
You could do like 1.7 or fivepoint, or, yeah, I think five.

Spoons (01:31:08):
Yeah.

Gino (01:31:08):
She's like five.
Pinkies.

Spoons (01:31:11):
Five Pinky's up.

Wheezy (01:31:12):
4, 5.

Gino (01:31:13):
I don't have enough pinkies, but

Wheezy (01:31:15):
know

Gino (01:31:15):
have four over here.

Spoons (01:31:16):
3, 4, 5.
Yeah.

Wheezy (01:31:18):
We didn't think about it when we created the rating
system.
It was a long time ago.

Spoons (01:31:22):
Can't stress how little thought went into

Wheezy (01:31:24):
I cannot

Spoons (01:31:25):
creating.

Wheezy (01:31:26):
Gino.

Gino (01:31:26):
geez.
I hate this system by the way.
I've mentioned this before

Wheezy (01:31:30):
I love that.
You hate it.

Gino (01:31:32):
because like, like last week, I gave the woman in white
four pinkies, and I feel like Ihave to give this more than four
pinkies.
Because

Spoons (01:31:41):
they're totally different genres,

Wheezy (01:31:43):
you

Gino (01:31:43):
the thing, it's like, it's a totally different thing.
But so yeah, my books have,they're always all over the
place.
Like I would go back and belike, no, I thought that book
was better than this book, but Irated it less pinkies than the
other books.

Wheezy (01:31:56):
You always have to like qualify first.
You're like did give this otherbook, this rating, so I don't
know if I can use this rating.

Gino (01:32:03):
Anyways.

Spoons (01:32:04):
anyone remembers from weeks to week what we,

Wheezy (01:32:07):
I certainly don't.

Gino (01:32:09):
I have a chart on my wall.
It's just marker sharpies.

Wheezy (01:32:14):
me crazy.

Gino (01:32:15):
It keeps me up all night.
Okay.
I'm gonna give it 4.25 pinkiesup.

Spoons (01:32:25):
Nice.
Woo hoo.

Wheezy (01:32:26):
That's solid.

Gino (01:32:27):
Just cut up those pinkies

Spoons (01:32:29):
good.

Wheezy (01:32:30):
Oh God.
Gross.

Spoons (01:32:31):
Shout.

Wheezy (01:32:32):
Oh my gosh.

Gino (01:32:32):
spoons.

Spoons (01:32:33):
I'm going to give it five Pinkies up.
I had such a fun time, and I goby what I'm feeling in the
moment, and right now I'mfeeling five because I'm about
to start that second audio bookas soon as we get off the call.
So that's kind of where I'm at.

Wheezy (01:32:49):
Five.
I'm giving it five.
Pinkies up.

Gino (01:32:52):
Wow.

Wheezy (01:32:53):
rating.
depends on,

Gino (01:32:54):
I think this is the highest.
This is definitely the highest,

Wheezy (01:32:58):
the highest, yeah,

Gino (01:33:00):
yeah.

Wheezy (01:33:01):
I think this is the highest cumulative radio that
we've had.
I would absolutely read this.
I'd read this again tomorrow andthat's why it gets a five.
Pinky's up.

Gino (01:33:08):
Wow.
And the second grand master,Mya.

Wheezy (01:33:11):
yeah,

Spoons (01:33:13):
Grandma.

Gino (01:33:14):
The second one is, I would say like just as good, but when
I'm talking about the third one,I don't think it's as good.
Personally, I

Spoons (01:33:23):
Okay,

Gino (01:33:24):
don't like the third one.

Wheezy (01:33:25):
I

Gino (01:33:26):
It was kind of just like,

Wheezy (01:33:27):
sucks.
I,

Gino (01:33:28):
first one was good, the second one was good.
The third one was more like, Ifeel like you're like, it was
good.
But some aspects of it were morejust like, it's kind of like you
just wanna make more orsomething.
It's just like not necessary.

Wheezy (01:33:46):
time a

Spoons (01:33:46):
you think it's getting dragged on?

Gino (01:33:48):
You said there's a fourth and fifth, right?
It didn't actually seem like itwas getting dragged on.
It just seems some parts werejust unnecessary And stuff, but

Spoons (01:33:57):
I

Gino (01:33:57):
they are making more so I was gonna say, we'll come back
for the third one.

Spoons (01:34:02):
Yeah.
We'll be

Gino (01:34:02):
Yeah, we'll come back.
Let's see.
Oh, real quick.
I slightly mentioned it earlier,but that's why I was like, Amari
and the Knight Brothers arebarely in this.
They definitely don't need to beon that title.
I was like expecting way moreKnight Brothers in this book.
But it was like,

Wheezy (01:34:17):
to the end and I was like, did I miss something?

Gino (01:34:19):
I know.
I was like, where were theKnight Brothers?
The second one?
Amari and the Great Game.
That one has way more of thething that it's talking about in
the whole thing.
The great game.
Yep.
Also Dylan's on the cover of it,

Wheezy (01:34:34):
i'm looking it up right

Spoons (01:34:35):
Oh, it's all coming together for Kendall's.

Gino (01:34:38):
Also, I dressed up as him for like a school thing, like
they said, dress up as a bookcharacter.
I came in like, in the secondbook cover, he was wearing like
a red cloak.
So I come and I'm like, yep, I'mDylan.
Guys.

Wheezy (01:34:51):
That's

Spoons (01:34:51):
love this so much for you.
I feel like we're kindredspirits.

Wheezy (01:34:56):
There Look at that blonde boy

Gino (01:34:59):
I have to look this up.

Spoons (01:35:00):
being evil.

Wheezy (01:35:01):
Look at him with

Spoons (01:35:02):
a jerk.
Can't wait to see him again.

Gino (01:35:04):
I'm, I think his favorite color is red, probably.
Oh yeah, I see him.
Yeah, there it is.
I don't think the camera canreally see it.
Yeah, I see it.
Yeah.

Spoons (01:35:14):
Ugh.
That's gonna be good.
And when the movie comes out,we're all gonna go see it.

Wheezy (01:35:19):
There he

Spoons (01:35:19):
Oh, there he is.
Brooding in the background.

Wheezy (01:35:22):
brooding with blonde hair, which just does not go
together for

Gino (01:35:26):
He's not on the third one.
On the cover.
Yeah.
He's not on the third one.

Spoons (01:35:31):
Right?

Gino (01:35:32):
is not on it.

Wheezy (01:35:33):
oh my God, all the Dylan stands.

Spoons (01:35:35):
I'm excited to see more of Jaden though.
Like if Jaden

Gino (01:35:38):
Oh yeah.
I, yeah, I like Jayden a lot.

Spoons (01:35:41):
that's gonna be so fun.
He's such a cutie.
I love him.

Wheezy (01:35:45):
a cutie.
I really, I want the best forhim.
I

Spoons (01:35:47):
Me too.
I really do.

Wheezy (01:35:49):
Oh my

Spoons (01:35:50):
I was already like, trying to decide who I should
Jaden with.
I was like,

Wheezy (01:35:53):
I shipped Jayden with Amari, but I feel

Spoons (01:35:55):
Elsie,

Wheezy (01:35:56):
going

Spoons (01:35:56):
oh,

Wheezy (01:35:57):
Oh, that's way better.

Gino (01:35:59):
yeah.
That would totally work.

Spoons (01:36:01):
that I made up in my head.
Ha.
And they have not eveninteracted yet, but I made it

Gino (01:36:05):
No

Wheezy (01:36:06):
really

Spoons (01:36:06):
and then I was like, okay, Maya shaking her head and
then I was like, what if Jadenand Laura?
But then I was like, no, Lauraneeds to not be here.

Gino (01:36:15):
I,

Wheezy (01:36:15):
You are

Gino (01:36:16):
I ship him with someone else.
I ship him with someone else.
She so excited for more Elsielike to see her grow and
develop.

Spoons (01:36:24):
Oh, me too.

Wheezy (01:36:25):
Oh

Spoons (01:36:25):
This is gonna be good.
I'm

Gino (01:36:27):
No, but I really do ship him with someone else.
Like it's there.
I promise it.
It's, it.

Wheezy (01:36:33):
And so

Spoons (01:36:33):
There will be something

Gino (01:36:34):
It's, I guess it's subtle, but it's yeah.
There's something going onthere.

Spoons (01:36:40):
I'm excited.
I'm excited.

Gino (01:36:41):
think you see it more in the third book maybe.
It that's a good thing about thethird book.
I guess

Wheezy (01:36:49):
You're like, that's

Spoons (01:36:49):
Okay.
We get some Jaden

Gino (01:36:51):
that's why I read it.

Spoons (01:36:52):
He gets his flowers in the third.
All right.

Wheezy (01:36:54):
That's funny.

Spoons (01:36:55):
was so fun.
Thank you once again forrecommending it, Myla, and for
being our special guest.
I

Wheezy (01:37:00):
Yes.
Our special gas Grand Master,

Spoons (01:37:03):
woo.

Wheezy (01:37:03):
the

Spoons (01:37:04):
master a Pause.
Pause.
Applause.

Wheezy (01:37:06):
the OGGM.
Is there anything anyone elsethat wants to

Spoons (01:37:09):
Yes.

Wheezy (01:37:10):
this book?

Gino (01:37:11):
Not about the book, but real quick, stay tuned to look
at Story siren studio um.com forour read-a-thon coming up for
the bookshop.
And a couple other

Wheezy (01:37:26):
Just do

Gino (01:37:26):
fun activities if you wanna come to our retreat and
you're 18 plus or 21 plus wehave a retreat coming up in
October and Pennsylvania, awriter's retreat.
And yeah, just stay tuned on oursocials and website and
everything.
We've got tons of new stuffcoming at you constantly, so

Wheezy (01:37:49):
constantly.

Gino (01:37:49):
cool.

Wheezy (01:37:50):
Yeah.
Thanks

Spoons (01:37:51):
Woohoo.

Gino (01:37:52):
it.
Yeah.

Wheezy (01:37:54):
Yeah, do it.
'cause Myla said so and we'realways gonna

Spoons (01:37:56):
Yeah.

Wheezy (01:37:57):
from now on.
So

Spoons (01:37:59):
the grand master who told you to?

Wheezy (01:38:00):
you guys can follow us at that Pretentious Book club.
You can also follow our StorySiren Studio account on
Instagram, or go to story sirenstudio.com.
You can always send us book res.
Now my lazy dog is getting up atthe very end of the episode.
Do you need guys side?
So you talk so much, mom.
so you guys can email us bookrecs or let us know what you
thought about the episode, whatwe were talking about.
You can also, if you wannafollow the news about my

(01:38:20):
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There's also a website's not asexciting.
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Leave us a review.
Share the pod with your friends.

Gino (01:38:32):
Five stars.
Only

Wheezy (01:38:33):
still five

Spoons (01:38:34):
stars, only reviews.
Thank you.

Wheezy (01:38:36):
if we could do pinkies, we would, but they, we can't
control

Spoons (01:38:38):
I think he's only

Wheezy (01:38:39):
I've written

Gino (01:38:40):
five stars.
What are we doing?
Oh, five stars.
We're stealing my hands.
Okay.

Wheezy (01:38:45):
Look at that.
Anyways

Spoons (01:38:47):
Winnie.

Wheezy (01:38:47):
all we've got.

Gino (01:38:48):
Hi Benny.

Wheezy (01:38:49):
say hello and a bonus

Spoons (01:38:51):
Winchester.

Wheezy (01:38:51):
this is Winchester, my big farm

Gino (01:38:53):
Hi, Winnie

Spoons (01:38:54):
Hi, Winnie dog.

Wheezy (01:38:56):
my sweet boy with one whole

Gino (01:38:58):
Slab.

Wheezy (01:38:59):
He

Gino (01:38:59):
Ber slab,

Wheezy (01:39:00):
brain cell in there.
Yeah.
You good boy.
like shaking his head at me.
He's like, please let me outsidemom, and thank you for your
giant paw.
And until next episode, keepyour teacups full

Spoons (01:39:14):
Your pinkies high

Gino (01:39:15):
and your book club

Wheezy (01:39:16):
club.

Gino (01:39:17):
Pretentious.

Wheezy (01:39:18):
Yay.

Spoons (01:39:19):
Yay.

Wheezy (01:39:20):
Oh my god.

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