3.09: Fallout

In this episode of That Weewoo Show, Ellen, Bex, and Alice discuss season 3, episode nine of 9-1-1, titled "Fallout". The 118 responds to debris from a meteor shower crashing into an apartment building and a deadly fire caused by a hazardous waste truck crash inside a tunnel; Bobby introduces Eddie to an old friend to help with his anger.

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Episode Transcript

Maddie (00:13):
9-1-1.
What's your emergency?

Ellen (00:16):
Welcome back to That Wee Woo Show, a podcast where we watch and
discuss episodes of the ABC show, 9-1-1.
I'm Ellen,

Alice (00:23):
I'm Alice.

Bex (00:25):
And I'm Bex.

Ellen (00:26):
Thanks everyone for listening to all of our episodes so far, or as
many of them as you have listened to.
We've got quite a lot in the bag now.
I think we're up to, I think thismight actually be our 40th episode.
Can you believe that?

Alice (00:38):
Oh my God.

Bex (00:39):
Woo.

Ellen (00:40):
I think we're up to 40 now.
That's pretty amazing.
Um, and we really appreciate everyonewho's, um, been leaving comments for us on
Spotify and YouTube and different places.
Uh, we really appreciate you doing that.
Thank you.
We'd love to hear about, um,what you're doing when you're
listening to the podcast or what youthought of all of these episodes.
But this week we're gonna be talking aboutepisode nine, which is called "Fallout".

(01:04):
Uh, but Alice, would you like toremind us what happened last week?

Alice (01:08):
Yeah, so last week on 9-1-1, Eddie's fight club hobby got out of
hand after he almost killed an opponent.
Maddie continued to be suspendedafter low-key stalking a 9-1-1 caller
she thought needed help and Henwas involved in a crash between her
ambulance and a car, which resultedin the death of a young driver.
Bit of a dark one last week.

Bex (01:31):
Well, it was, I mean, that part was all really dark, but then you also had,
you know, Bobby's ice skating spectacular.

Alice (01:40):
True.

Bex (01:40):
So, you know, that was a little bit of a, a light, a lighter
moment in an otherwise dark episode.
Mm-hmm.

Alice (01:49):
The ending was definitely dark.

Bex (01:51):
Yes.
The ending was definitely dark.
Um, this week we are going to discussepisode nine called "Fallout".
The official promo that Fox put outfor this episode tells us that the 118
respond to debris from a meteor showercrashing into an apartment building

(02:15):
and a deadly fire caused by a hazardouswaste truck crash inside a tunnel.
Meanwhile, Hen struggles withguilt over her ambulance accident.
Bobby introduces Eddie to an old friendto help with his anger, and Maddie
receives an urgent call for help.
Once again, I question when they writethese summaries 'cause and who writes

(02:37):
them, um, because there's so manythings in that summary that are wrong.
But I guess we can talk about that later.
Yeah.
Um.
Triggers for this episode include acar crash, domestic violence, gore,

(03:01):
discussions of grief, hazardous andradioactive waste, post-traumatic stress,
uh, therapy in case therapy is a trigger.
And there is also, um,reference to, uh, gun violence.
So I love that the, the summary is,talks about debris from a meteor shower.

(03:25):
Does one hunk of rock constitute a shower?

Ellen (03:28):
Yeah, and the other thing with it is that it's just, it's like the
first, like two minutes of the episode.
Like there's hardly anything.
I, I guess it counts as one of the, theone two different emergencies, yeah.
But

Bex (03:41):
it does, but it, it makes it sound like it's this massive, it's going
to cover two, it's gonna be an arcthat's gonna cover two whole episodes.
It's gonna be this massive thing, but it'sjust, you know, it's just Olivia, it's
one hug of Robin and Olivia and that's,that's what they have to respond to.

Ellen (04:00):
Yeah.
And who, who does Bobbyintroduce Eddie to?

Bex (04:04):
Yeah, see that's the other thing.
I think they're referring to Frank.

Alice (04:08):
Yeah.
They're referring to Frank, but badlybecause, well, I don't think Bobby.

Ellen (04:14):
Yeah.
Does Bobby know?
Like we, we never findout that Bobby knows him.

Bex (04:19):
No.
See, I mean, I know we werejoking in the last episode about
it should have been hot priest.
'cause at least that would make sense.

Ellen (04:26):
Yeah.

Bex (04:26):
Um, I. But if it is Frank, then why are they making a big deal
about Bobby introducing Eddie toFrank when both Maddie and Hen and
also Buck have possibly seen Frank?

Alice (04:40):
Yeah.

Bex (04:41):
So it's not like this one off special thing.
Everybody sees Frank.
Frank is like the, the LAFD's bicycle.
You know, everybody riding,everybody gets a ride.

Ellen (04:50):
Oh, that's an unfortunate way.

Alice (04:52):
Oh, it's saying something.
Considering he's got wheels too.

Ellen (04:56):
Oh, oh, no.
And it also, I also laughed when theyall went to see him, because at the end
of the last episode, I literally saidlike, everyone's gonna go to therapy.
Yes.
And then he's gonna come outand go, all right, who's next?
But they all, they actually havebeen in there one after another.

Bex (05:16):
Yes.
And they kind of did...
but yeah, I wonder whether there wassupposed to be a bigger thing about Frank
and whether there was actually some kindof scene with Bobby and Eddie and Frank,
or whether they wrote this summary wellin advance of actually getting to the
episode and then they changed it and theyjust forgot to go back and do the summary.

(05:40):
I don't know,

Ellen (05:40):
well, it seems like they do that a bit or they don't re release...

Bex (05:44):
it does, doesn't it?

Ellen (05:44):
New ones or the people don't update you know, IMDB or wherever Dunno.

Bex (05:51):
No, but this isn't IMDB.
This is the promo that's like givenin advance of the episode going out.
So it's what, it's what went into theTV guide for people to read before
the episode aired, so I don't know.

Alice (06:03):
Yeah, like we're currently in hiatus and we've got the
summary for the next episode, likewe got that a couple weeks ago.
So.

Bex (06:13):
Maybe they like hand over the projected storylines to somebody
and they write all of the promos inadvance and then hand them over to
whoever they give the promo stuff to.
Once again, I am begging anybodywho knows anybody who is in any way
tangentially involved in Hollywoodand television and can tell us
how this works, please tell us,

Ellen (06:37):
because we have found quite a few summaries that are
incorrect now, a lot of them are.

Bex (06:42):
Yes.

Alice (06:43):
Yeah.

Ellen (06:44):
Anyway, alright, so where are we beginning?
We're, we're in a

Bex (06:49):
quote unquote meteor shower.

Ellen (06:50):
Yes.
We're in a suburban street.
Uh, a woman is raking some leaveson the sidewalk, listening to like
a news report or a, you know, somekind of a weather report on the
radio and they say something about.
"The, the eggheads over at JPL saythere's a meteor shower coming our

(07:12):
way," and they said it's supposed toland in the middle of the Pacific,
so it's not gonna be a problem.

Bex (07:20):
So then they decide to put on "Waiting For a Star To Fall".
Which ironic.

Ellen (07:26):
Yeah, why not?

Alice (07:27):
It's, it's these people who are in charge of all the needle drops for 9-1-1.
We finally found them.

Bex (07:33):
They're, um, K-S-X-I-K Sexy radio.

Alice (07:36):
Yeah, that's it.

Ellen (07:38):
It's like that, the one radio station on, um, GTA, the um, the one
that plays all the eighties ballads.

Alice (07:45):
Oh.

Ellen (07:46):
Oh,

Alice (07:46):
what's the name of it?
Um, I can't remember.
The GTA radio stations are so good though.
Yeah.

Ellen (07:57):
Anyway, yes, we've got a delivery, someone is delivering a parcel to this,
the house that the lady is raking theleaves out the front of, and he, you
know, this box is really heavy, but heputs it on the porch and, rings the bell
.Bex: No, he doesn't, he just dumps it on the porch and then walks away.
And that's, um, Mrs.

(08:20):
Ov, I've just been calling her Mrs. U.

Alice (08:22):
Yeah.
Fair.

Bex (08:22):
Um, goes to the door and knocks to let the occupant Olivia
know that she has a delivery.
Who is absolutely thrilled that whatevershe has ordered has finally arrived.

Alice (08:35):
Aren't we all?

Bex (08:37):
And the boxes, it, it looks, it's deceptive.
Its size, looks rather normal, buteveryone is acting like it's full of
rocks when they try to lift it up.

Ellen (08:49):
Yeah.

Bex (08:49):
Which I guess is probably an apt comparison because Olivia has
bought herself a weighted blanket.

Alice (08:56):
It was funny 'cause the first time I watched this episode,
I was literally watching it underan, under a weighted blanket.
I was like, yes, Olivia, excellent choice.
Um, it's currently summer andmy weighted blankets are still
packed away from when I moved.
But, um, yeah, keen to get them back out.

Ellen (09:14):
I always wondered one of those.
I haven't managed to get one yet after.
It,

Alice (09:19):
I have it on my bed in winter 'cause it like keeps me warmer and
I've got another one on my couch.

Bex (09:25):
So apparently Olivia has been doing some, um, desperate search,
desperately searching for dopamine viaonline shopping, um, because she got
fired from her content creation job.

Alice (09:38):
Yeah.
Apparently she wasn't gettingthe voice of the blog.
Um, and she chalks it up to herRBF AKA, resting Bitch Face.

Ellen (09:49):
Oh, was it a video blog?

Alice (09:54):
I'm starting to think so.

Ellen (09:56):
Yes.

Alice (09:56):
Um, but Mrs. U, who is also Olivia's landlord, because she mentions
that she'll, slip her the rent soon.
She's like, "It's been days,you can't stay inside forever."
And Olivia's like, "Yes, I can.
My forever just got totallyawesome," and just wraps
herself in the weighted blanket.

Ellen (10:16):
She looks terrible by the way.
She got all red eyes and like red aroundthe nose, like she's been crying all day.
Poor thing.

Bex (10:23):
Yeah.
Well, apparently the weighted blanketis going is, is like a perpetual hug,
which is precisely what she needs.
No, what she deserves in this moment.
So she pushes her landlord out, um,and the next time we see her, she is
on the couch with headphones on underthe weighted blanket listening to,

(10:44):
um, a motivational podcast, which istalking about filling her own cup.
Um, because you cannotpour from an empty one.
You also can't get soda from anempty cup, but she tries to anyway.
Well, meanwhile outside, Mrs. U watchesas the sort of clouds are getting dark

(11:06):
and then all of a sudden somethingscreeches through the sky and crashes
into through the roof of Olivia's house.
And then Olivia starts screaming.
So the landlord rushes in and wefind Olivia on the couch looking
down at herself screaming and thereis a massive hole in her abdomen.

Alice (11:29):
Yeah, through her weighted blanket.

Ellen (11:30):
Through the, through the blanket.
Yeah.
There's blood everywhere.
It's gross.

Bex (11:37):
And so you can probably guess what the 9-1-1 call Mrs. U makes goes along
the lines of, which is she calls Maddieand tells her that the sky is falling.

Ellen (11:47):
Yeah, it's one of those ones that is light on details
but heavy on the witty, um, lols.

Alice (11:55):
Yeah.
Um, but yeah, the nineone one call was Maddie.
So she is apparently back at work.

Ellen (12:02):
She's back.

Bex (12:03):
Well I'm guessing she must have, you know, had her assessment
and we see later she's been seeingFrank, so she's ticked all the
boxes that Sue put in place for her.
Yeah, I guess she'sallowed back on the floor.

Ellen (12:19):
All right.
So the, the 118 arriveon the scene naturally.
Um, Mrs. Mrs. You lets them in thedoor and tells them it's a miracle
that she, that Olivia is alive becauseshe saw it fall, fall from space.
"It fell all the way from heavenand land on top of her." And in
the meantime, I think Buck iscrawling underneath the couch.

Bex (12:44):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Buck's gone under the couch.
Um, so he's, I guess they're,they're trying to figure out how
far everything is penetrated.
Um, and they pretty much, they prettyquickly figure out that it's gone all
the way through her when they're looking,when Bobby and Chim are looking down at
the hole in Olivia's weighted blanketand abdomen, and they can see Buck

(13:06):
waving at them from under the couch.

Ellen (13:09):
Yeah.

Bex (13:09):
And Buck can see them.

Ellen (13:10):
It's like a large hole right through the middle of
her, and she can still move hertoes and everything like that.

Bex (13:19):
Oh, she's doing fine.
Like she's talking and she's complaining.
Um, as Chim said, the, themeteor has obviously cauterized
everything as it's gone through.

Ellen (13:31):
Might have taken out a kidney, but it missed the spine.
Buck looks at the actual floorand he sees the meteorite in the
hole there and it's still glowing.
So obviously it hasn't takenthem that long to get there.
If the rock is still like redhot and steaming, you know,

Bex (13:53):
I mean, how hot do those things get?
I didn't, I wouldn't think that there, itwould, you know, cool off that quickly.

Ellen (14:00):
Well, I mean, it get really hot on its way through the atmosphere, but
once it crashed through a house, likeit's just sitting there cooling down?

Bex (14:08):
If there are any, if there is anybody listening that
knows anything about astronomy,

Ellen (14:12):
Does anyone knows about meteorites?

Bex (14:16):
Let us know.
Um, but despite how hot it looks,Buck still seems to want to
reach into the hole and grab it.

Ellen (14:23):
Yeah.

Bex (14:24):
Um, when we then get Bobby telling him sternly that it doesn't belong to
him, um, and Chim tries to throw inanother pop culture reference, which once
again, Buck does not get because he tells

Alice (14:38):
Yeah.
Buck does not understand it at all.

Bex (14:40):
He tells Buck that it belongs in a museum.
And I do love that the closedcaption, just in case, um, everyone
at home didn't get it either,says quote "as Harrison Ford".

Alice (14:50):
Yeah.

Bex (14:53):
Uh, but one of the, uh, side effects of having the meteor go
through the weighted blanket andher and the couch is that the couch
is now fused to Olivia's body.
Um, and they're going to haveto move her on the couch.
So Bobby orders them to get the saws sothey can turn the couch into a backboard.

Alice (15:19):
And Olivia's very, like relatively calm through all this.
Like she's just chatting, she's still veryconscious, but when Bobby says saws, she's
like, so "Did you say saws? Did he saysaws? Did, did you say saws?" Um, yeah,
but they're just to cut up the couch.

Bex (15:36):
Yeah.
I don't think they quite, I thinkthere was a miscommunication there
and she somehow thinks that she'sgoing to be the one getting cut.

Alice (15:42):
Yeah.
Um, but yeah, so instead ofpanicking, she's just sort of like,
woe is me, which is like fair.
She's just been fired, she's havinga pity party for herself, and
now she has a hole through her.
And while they're cutting up the couch,Olivia's like, of all the people on
the planet, this thing had to hit me.

(16:03):
And Buck is just peak Buck and goes.
"You know what? Only one other personin history has ev ever been hit by a
meteorite, and that was in the fifties,which makes you pretty special."

Bex (16:13):
Yeah.
'cause while Eddie and Chim areworking, Buck is in the corner on
his phone googling meteorite hits,

Alice (16:23):
um, and yeah, Olivia's like, "I don't feel special.
How do you know that?
Why do you know that?"
And Eddie just goes, "Buck wason the pier when the tsunami hit.
He's kind of obsessed withnatural disasters," and Buck
looks so proud of himself.
He's like, yeah, I am.

Ellen (16:41):
He's obviously been chewing like Eddie's ear off about
natural disasters for a while now.

Alice (16:48):
And Olivia says that if he wants natural disasters,
he should look at her life.
And Buck just goes, "Not anymore.Space rocks do not just fall out of
the sky onto anybody. You are gonna befamous." And then she's like, oh, oh,

Ellen (17:01):
she looks really happy about, yeah.
Like, oh, Buck, you'resuch a ray of sunshine.

Bex (17:07):
Um, he's not wrong about the history of meteorites because there
really has only been one personto ever be hit by a meteorite.
I googled this in case this was a rippedfrom the headline storyline, and it's,
it's not, there has been reports ofproperty damage from meteorites striking,

(17:28):
but, uh, a woman named Anne is the onlyperson who's ever been hit by a meteorite.

Ellen (17:35):
Okay.
Did it go right through her?

Bex (17:37):
But even then, no.
She only got a bruise.
Like, I'm pretty sure it was reallygnarly bruise, but for some reason,
by the time the meteor went throughher roof, it bounced off the radio
and hit her leg and she was lying onthe couch under a pile of blankets.

Alice (17:55):
So even then it didn't like, like it hit her, but it wasn't a direct hit.

Bex (18:00):
Yes.

Alice (18:01):
Huh.
Interesting.

Bex (18:04):
Yeah.
And then apparently, um, she thengot, uh, into some disputes about
actually who owned or who had ownershipof the meteorite because it landed,
um, in the house, in her house.
But the Anne was renting the house.
So did it therefore belong to thelandlord and all sorts of things, but

Ellen (18:26):
oh,

Bex (18:27):
that's a different story.

Alice (18:28):
Interesting.

Bex (18:30):
Uh, but so back to the, back to 9-1-1.
Eddie and Chim have finishedcutting up the couch.
They've created a, an instantbackboard and they are able to
lift Olivia up and carry her onthe backboard out to the ambulance.
Is this where you saw the crow?
Did Olivia have some

Ellen (18:49):
I think it might have been, yeah.

Bex (18:50):
Artwork on her.

Ellen (18:51):
Yeah.
Yeah.
'cause he says.
What does he say at the end here?
Oh yeah.
"I can't believe Hen missed this."And then as he moves away, there's
a crow on the wall behind him in,on a, like a picture of a crow.
Oh.
And I was like, I was doing that.
The, um, you know, the

Bex (19:09):
Leonardo DiCaprio pointing meme?

Ellen (19:11):
Yeah.
I was like, there's a crow there.
So meanwhile we have a bit of a, asort of tone shift here because we
were quite lighthearted with the, wellafter she sort of got over the fact
that she had a hole in her, the meteorlady was quite upbeat about the whole
thing, I guess when she realized thatshe was gonna be famous out of it.

(19:34):
Um, the, and, and the music isquite light and kind of, you
know, everything's gonna be okay.
But then we, after the title card, we goto Hen after Chim says, "I can't believe
Hen missed this." Hen is talking to Frank.
We don't know what hisname is until later, but

Bex (19:54):
No, I know, but I know it's Frank, so I'm just gonna call him Frank.

Ellen (19:57):
Yeah, she's talking about how she's doing after the accident in the last
episode, so she's not sleeping very well.
Every time she closes her eyes,she sees the accident replaying.

Bex (20:10):
So this was a, um, a nice reveal.
So when we cut, when we come back fromthe title part to hen being in therapy,
the camera is just on hen we don'tactually see who she's talking to.
And then after she says, every,every time I close my eyes and Frank
says, fin the sentence and says,you see her face, the camera pulls

(20:33):
back to reveal, uh, a wide shot.
And we see that Hannah is sittingin a very nicely appointed room,
which is obviously Frank's office.
Um, and Frank is sitting acrossfrom her, and he's in a wheelchair.
So I did a little bit of Googling as I do.
Frank is played by EddieMcGee, um, who is an amputee.

Ellen (20:56):
Oh, right.

Bex (20:56):
So this is not, um, an able bodied actor being put into a wheelchair.
This is a disabled actor.
Um, he lost his leg tocancer when he was a child.

Ellen (21:07):
Right.

Bex (21:09):
Um, and fun fact, he was the first winner of Big Brother in the US

Ellen (21:13):
Oh, oh really?

Bex (21:16):
Yes.

Ellen (21:16):
See what he went on to fame and fortune.
After all
I said, I don't remember who any of thewinners of Big Brother were in Australia.

Bex (21:28):
I found

Alice (21:30):
Reggie?

Ellen (21:32):
Yeah.
If you said who they were and showedme a picture, I might be able to,
like, I watched like the first seasonmaybe, and then I was like, okay,

Alice (21:38):
so the first one was a guy named Ben.
I can't remember which one Reggie won.
Reggie won one and she'sjust got, um, been on I'm A
Celebrity, get Me Out Of Here.

Bex (21:49):
Oh, good Lord.

Ellen (21:51):
A serial, uh, reality tv.

Alice (21:55):
Well, she's, um, vision impaired now, so.

Ellen (21:59):
Oh, wow.

Alice (22:00):
Yeah.

Ellen (22:00):
That must have been interesting in the jungle.

Alice (22:04):
Oh, literally like all the others were helping and like, they'd
be like, "oh my god, baboons!"
And she's like, "where, what?"

Bex (22:11):
The thing I like about, um, Frank and about Eddie being cast as Frank is that
once again you've got a, um, a disabledcharacter or a disabled actor and there's
just no mention of their disability.
It's just, this is Frank.
He's in a wheelchair.

Alice (22:27):
Yeah

Ellen (22:28):
yeah.
They're just doing their job.

Bex (22:30):
Yep.
Which is being everybody's therapist.

Ellen (22:36):
Yeah.
Oh, that poor, poor man.

Bex (22:42):
But they, they, they use the technique that, um, several writers
have used throughout the series, whichis Frank is the constant in this scene.
And we just, every time he asksa question or every time he says
something, a different character answers.
So when hen starts talking about,um, her, the dream that she's having,

(23:08):
um, we cut back to Frank and thenwhen we cut to who is sitting across
from him, suddenly it's Eddie.
And he's talking about, I don'teven know what he's talking about.
It's something about good moments.
And he doesn't feel happy.

Ellen (23:25):
Yeah.
He's worried about that he's notdealing with the trauma very well.
And he doesn't want, he doesn't wantChris to end up like him, which is Yeah.
A hard thing to thinkabout yourself I think.

Bex (23:39):
Frank says that there's no right way to deal with trauma.
All the first responders are council,so he must be like the LAFD counselor.
Poor dude.

Ellen (23:47):
Yeah.
Um,

Bex (23:48):
all the first responders process it differently and we cut to
Maddie going, um, "And yet you alldo it the same way and ask the same
questions and press the same buttons."

Ellen (24:00):
Yeah.
And he says, like she says, this isher third session, so that's good.
She's been seeing somebody, although maybenot since before she had her stalking
episode, but at least she's doing it now.
That's good.

Bex (24:15):
Sounds like, um, she went to therapy after, the incident with Doug.
Yeah.
And then she stopped.
Now she's being forced to see somebodyafter this incident with Tara.
But I guess she wasn'tseeing Frank before.

Ellen (24:30):
And Frank says to her, "I'm sorry none of it helped you." And she
says, "what makes you think it didn't?"And I'm like, you just told him that,
that what he was doing isn't helping.
But Frank is very calm.
He's like, "You're sitting, you'rehere, aren't you?" You know,
you're sitting in the chair.
That means it hasn't been helping you.
You're still here.

Bex (24:51):
Then Eddie says that he doesn't wanna be sitting in that chair.
He'd rather be at home with Chris.
Um, so Frank says, I thinkgenerally to all of them, "Why do
you keep coming back?" And likeMaddie's, like Sue told me to,

Ellen (25:06):
I have to, to to do my job, to get my job back

Bex (25:09):
Court mandated therapy.
Hen is a little bit more reticent,but she's like, I know I need help
to process this, even though Idon't want to process it almost.
And Eddie, God bless him, is like, "Idon't want my kid to be like me." And
that's when my heart broke a little bit.

Ellen (25:29):
Yeah.

Bex (25:30):
Because he tells Frank that Chris used to be this happy, open kid, but
then he felt that he had to hide hispain and pretend that he was okay.
Um, and Eddie doesn't want him to do that.

Ellen (25:44):
Uh, they sort of get to wrap up this scene by each of them, you
know, stating what happened, I guess.
So Maddie says that she didviolate the department policy,
and violated a woman's trust.
And Eddie says he almost killeda guy with his bare hands.
And Hen says, I, I did.
I killed a young girl inthe prime of her life.

(26:04):
But, um, Maddie says thatshe survived and Doug didn't.
So they're collectively, they'renot doing all that great, but at
least they're talking about it.
That's the first step.

Alice (26:16):
Well, a bit.
Yeah.

Ellen (26:18):
Yes.
Kind of talking about it.
Yeah.

Bex (26:22):
So while those two are going through, um, no, it must be the next
day because Eddie is now back at the 118and Buck is pestering Bobby about when
they're going to hear anything aboutHen so that she can come back to work.
Mm-hmm.
And this is where we find out that itreally is just a revolving door at,

(26:42):
um, at Frank's, uh, house of Therapy.
Because Eddie says that he walked outas hen was walking in, or No, he was
going in while hen was coming out.
Either way.
They crossed paths.

Alice (26:55):
They crossed paths.
Um, and she, she seemed okay, but sad.

Ellen (27:00):
Well, this, this is where we find out that, um, well, at
least Buck has seen Frank before.

Bex (27:06):
Yeah.

Ellen (27:07):
Because he says, "How's therapy with Frank? I haven't seen in, in
a, in a while." Eddie doesn't thinkthat he and Frank are clicking.
I'm not sure why he didn't think that.

Alice (27:17):
Then Chim says, "You should try talking to Rosemary.
I went to her after the stabbing.
She was great," and Buck just chimes inwith, "Is that the one I slept with?"

Bex (27:26):
And Bobby is so quick to say no.

Alice (27:28):
So fast,

Bex (27:30):
but I can't remember.
Did everybody find out thatBuck slept with the therapist?
Like how does Bobby know?
It's been so long since season one.
I can't exactly remember, but um, butyes, apparently , she doesn't work for the
department anymore and I have a feelingthat Bobby had something to do with that

Alice (27:52):
And Eddie just turns to Buck and goes, "You slept with your therapist?"
Which Buck chalks up togoing through a phase.
And then it is like, "Hey, didn'tyou just go through one of those?"

Ellen (28:07):
Yeah.
Well, he just punched people.
He didn't randomly justsleep with everybody.

Bex (28:13):
All right.
So yeah,

Ellen (28:14):
Athena appears Athena.
She appears she's, she'son duty, apparently.
She's allowed back at work too.

Bex (28:22):
Well, I guess if Maddie's allowed her suspension is over,
is allowed back at work, theneverybody's allowed back at work.
It just Hen's not,

Ellen (28:27):
I wonder if Athena has also been at therapy

Alice (28:32):
with Frank.

Ellen (28:34):
Well, Frank May only be the, the fire department, uh, shrink.

Bex (28:39):
But she was, would she need therapy?
Would she need therapy?

Alice (28:43):
No, I don't think so,

Bex (28:43):
because she was just, she violated department protocol, policy, whatever.
I don't know that that'sa, a therapy manager.
She just got a, a wrist.
Yeah.
Ride the desk for a little while.
Like the desk at home.
'cause she wasn't even allowed at work.

Ellen (28:59):
Yeah, yeah.
Ride the couch.

Bex (29:01):
Oh, hello

Ellen (29:02):
she, she pops up.
Okay.
I'll take that statement back.
Um, this must be Athena's first dayback because when Bobby sees her, she,
he says, "Look who's back on the beat."

Bex (29:19):
Yeah.
Like, dude, you live together.
Surely you would've noticed you didn't,

Ellen (29:22):
You didn't know?

Bex (29:22):
That your, your wife was back at work.
I mean, this wholething is just so stupid.
Like, oh, I came to the118 to find out about Hen.
Couldn't you have asked Bobby?
Like,

Alice (29:34):
I mean, if Bobby's at the middle of a 48

Ellen (29:37):
or, you know, call Hen, see how she is?

Bex (29:40):
Exactly.

Ellen (29:40):
She's your bestie.

Bex (29:42):
But no, they need her at the 118 for plot related purposes.

Ellen (29:47):
I mean, Chimney actually does say to her, "Did you talk to her?"
And she's like, "No, I try. But allshe wants to talk about. Is the girl."
But isn't that what you wanna find out?
Like Yeah.
Anyway.
It's a weird, it's a weird conversation.
This whole thing is just strange.
Yeah.

Bex (30:06):
It, it's like we need to get to, we need a certain plot point to come out.
So we are just gonna do whateverwe can to get to that plot point.
We're not really concernedif it makes too much sense,

Alice (30:17):
that's it.
Just don't think about it.
Athena's there for hand wavy reasons,

Bex (30:20):
For hand wavy reasons.
And also so we can get a conversationabout college essays because May has
emailed Athena a copy of her collegeessay, um, which prompts a fun discussion
about college and college essays amongstthe 118, uh, which culminates in Buck

(30:41):
telling everyone that he doesn't rememberwhat his college essay was about.
And Chim shoots back.
"Well, why don't you askMaddie what she wrote for you."

Ellen (30:48):
Oh.

Bex (30:52):
But then Athena looks like she is ready to smite everyone and anyone in her
path because May's essay is not about herexperience in the tsunami, it is called
"Living with the Enemy", AKA Athena.

Ellen (31:10):
I love that May wrote this.

Bex (31:12):
I honestly, it's such, it's a better essay than "my mother forced me
into a car, which was then surrounded byelectricity. So I couldn't get out and
I had to watch a woman die in my hands."

Ellen (31:25):
Yeah.
Okay.
So Hen, so is Hen at the118 here in this next scene?
Or are they

Bex (31:33):
Yeah.

Ellen (31:33):
At Hen's Place?
I'm trying to remember.

Bex (31:35):
No, no, because you can see the ambulance behind her.

Ellen (31:38):
Okay.
So she has actually come intowork to talk to Bobby about the

Bex (31:43):
Yes.

Ellen (31:44):
The findings of the investigation basically have found that.
She pressed the button and thelight was green when she drove
through the intersection, butthe light in on the other side of
the intersection never changed.
So there was something wrong.

Alice (32:00):
Yes.
Yeah.
So it was also green,

Ellen (32:01):
so she did everything right.
Um,

Bex (32:04):
except not slowing down before she entered the intersection.
But we, we'll just ignore that.

Alice (32:10):
Apparently that's not protocol for the LAFD.

Bex (32:13):
Well, not this version,

Ellen (32:14):
not in this universe.
Yeah.

Bex (32:17):
Um, so yes, hand did everything right, and yet Evelyn is still dead

Ellen (32:23):
and she feels like it's still her fault.
She can, he can show her a million piecesof paper that say it's not her fault,
but it's still gonna feel like it is.

Bex (32:31):
And then we get the most random line.
Like, "Did you know she playedthe cello?" Like Jesus, Hen.

Alice (32:38):
We all saw the cello music.

Bex (32:39):
Yeah.
We saw the, we, we, yeah,

Alice (32:41):
we, the camera zoomed in, we're good.

Bex (32:43):
We were very aware she played the cello.

Ellen (32:45):
You have to remind everyone that she was a real human being.
But Bobby's tells her that she canreturn to work whenever she wants.
So

Alice (32:54):
yeah, she's clear.
She clear she can return, but shewants more time, which is fine.

Ellen (32:59):
And she and Karen are gonna go away for the weekend.
Um, Athena.
Okay, so we're go to the Grant.
The Grant,

Alice (33:08):
the, the Grash or the Nant.
I love it.

Bex (33:10):
I got, I got sick of typing out Nash Grant, so I'm going
like, what are we gonna call them?
Are they Grash?
Or are they Nant?
We just call it Bathena?
I don't know.

Alice (33:20):
Bathena.
Yeah, the Bathena house.

Bex (33:21):
The Bathena household where Athena...

Alice (33:23):
featuring Michael
With

Bex (33:26):
special guest Michael.
Um, where Athena has printed,like printed out May's essay.
Um, and is reading

Alice (33:33):
because Athena's like, fuck the trees.

Bex (33:36):
Um, she probably can't see it properly on her phone, so she needs to
print it so she can actually read it.
Um.
And she's reading it out to Michael, whois like trying very hard to pretend like
he's never heard any of this before.

Alice (33:51):
Wow.
What a shock.
That May chose to write about the police.
Didn't see that one coming.

Bex (33:57):
Yep.
And Athena's ranting and raving andMichael's going like, that's "The
interpretation that you are givingthis essay is not what May is saying."
And Athena's like, "What do you know?
You haven't read it."And Michael's like, oop.

Ellen (34:12):
And then she does like the biggest side eye.
She's like, "You have read it!"

Bex (34:18):
Well,, we discussed it.

Alice (34:23):
Yeah.
May wanted to write about somethingthat mattered to her, but was
worried about Athena's reaction.

Bex (34:29):
Uh, quite rightly apparently.

Alice (34:32):
Um, yeah.
Athena's Mad.

Bex (34:34):
Athena is so pissed.

Alice (34:36):
She's also kind of blowing things up a bit.
Like she's like, "so she just tellsthe whole world that her mother's a
good-hearted, but misguided cop whohas wasted her entire life trying
to fix a system that's broken beyondrepair." She, it's a college essay.
Like do they, they onlygo to the college, right?

Ellen (34:52):
It's only 600 words long.

Bex (34:53):
Yes.
But I think she's, she's seeingthis as this is representative of
how May actually feels about her.

Alice (35:01):
Yeah.
Oh.
Which I totally get, but likeshe's, it's not like she's
publishing it in the New York Times.
Like

Bex (35:07):
No, but she's kind of,

Alice (35:11):
it's a college essay.

Bex (35:13):
Yeah.
But I, she's not worriedabout what she's saying.
I guess she is kind of worried,but it's just she's suddenly
realizing how May sees her Yeah.
And her perception of her mother.
And it's, it's not one thatshe particularly likes.

Ellen (35:30):
Yeah,

Bex (35:31):
Michael's trying to talk her down and tell her that, you know, "you should
actually be really proud of her because weraised the kids to be strong, smart, and
independent. And this is May being strong,smart, and independent. You know, we, we
did a great job with these kids and youneed to support her and be proud of her."

Alice (35:51):
And, and Athena goes, "It's easy for you to say,
'cause you are not the enemy."

Bex (35:56):
And flos off.

Ellen (36:01):
Oh, she's not, not happy.
Uh, so Hen goes to visit Chim andthey have a drink, a, a coffee.

Bex (36:13):
I'm gonna assume it's coffee.
Coffee.

Ellen (36:14):
It's something in a mug.

Bex (36:15):
It's, it seems too early in the day.

Alice (36:19):
Might be whiskey

Bex (36:19):
to be drinking

Alice (36:20):
in a coffee mug.
It's fine.

Bex (36:21):
It could be.

Ellen (36:25):
Uh, and she says that.
She tells him that, um, sincethe crash, Karen has been a rock.
It's like the IVF stuffnever even happened.

Bex (36:34):
Yeah.
you know...

Ellen (36:34):
So, you know, she suddenly realized that, oh, I was overreacting and being too
emotional, so, and now my wife is havingthis trauma, so I don't need mine anymore.

Bex (36:45):
AKA once again, 9-1-1 traumatizes a character, but then when that trauma
becomes inconvenient for the storyline,they drop it like a hot potato.
Yep.
Like Karen gets one episode tobe traumatized, and now she has
to push all of her trauma asideand be a good wife for her wife.

Ellen (37:02):
Mm-hmm.
I mean, she just does say later that she,you know, she was, it was the hormones
talking and this is sometime later.

Alice (37:10):
Yeah.
Literal, just like, oh,it was the hormones.
Like, I, it's fine.
I wasn't actually sad about any of this.
It was just the hormones.

Ellen (37:15):
You don't, you don't get over that quickly.

Bex (37:19):
No.
But the, the actual point ofthis scene is that currently.
The "away" that Hen and Karen aregoing is a new wellness spa because it
will have a healing influence on them.

Ellen (37:37):
Oh yeah.
And Chim says, it sounds verycrystally like there's gonna be
crystals there Hen's gonna tryanything to make her feel less awful.

Bex (37:46):
Short of a colonic.
She doesn't want a colonic.

Ellen (37:49):
No.

Alice (37:50):
Um, yeah, she, as long as there's a comfortable bed and no one trying
to talk her into getting a colonic,

Bex (37:56):
she specifically says that she will try anything that can make her
feel like she can do her job again.
And Chim tells her that someoneonce told him that the world is
full of patience, but what itreally needs is more caregivers.
And that Hen was the bestcaregiver that he knows.
So she has his blessing to go and dowhatever she needs to do to heal because

(38:21):
the world needs her back and so does he.
And the someone that told him that wasEli back in the episode, "Chimney Begins"

Ellen (38:33):
Oh, yeah,

Bex (38:34):
yeah, yeah.

Ellen (38:36):
He remembered

Alice (38:38):
I love Chim and Hen's friendship.

Ellen (38:41):
Yeah.
And Hen looks really touchedthat he would say that too.
Yeah.
Uh, okay.
So at 9-1-1 Headquarters,the boys are heading out.
They're, they're finished theirshift and they're gonna go out
on the town karaoke and wings.

(39:01):
Um, Josh is trying to talkMaddie into going too, but,
um, Maddie has plans with Buck.
And she doesn't think that that, that Joshwants him to join because you do not wanna
hear Buck singing "Eye of the Tiger".

Alice (39:16):
And apparently he also does one armed pushups.
Like what?

Ellen (39:23):
But is it on top of a car, Jensen Ackles, "Eye of the Tiger",

Bex (39:27):
like scratching at your arm because you've got ghost sickness kind of.

Ellen (39:33):
I, I do kind, I do wanna see Buck doing "Eye of the Tiger".
That'd be great.

Bex (39:38):
I don't know.
Have we got confirmation that Oliver cansing or is it gonna be like super painful?

Alice (39:43):
Oliver like refuses to do karaoke and I'm pretty sure there was like
just a thing about whether there'dever be like a singing episode of 9-1-1
and he was like, Nope, not doing it.
I will be in the corner refusing to sing.

Ellen (39:57):
Okay, that's good because.
I find those episodesreally cringey anyway.

Alice (40:06):
Not a fan of the, um, Grey's Anatomy, coma Dream.
Sing along.

Ellen (40:11):
If it's a dream, it's fine.
Like with the tap dancing,

Bex (40:14):
what about, what about "Once More With Feeling?" That was amazing.

Ellen (40:19):
That was amazing.
It was just very

Bex (40:23):
No, but no.

Ellen (40:26):
Anyway, anyway, whatever.
I don't think we need it.

Bex (40:31):
Um, but whatever plans Maddie has with Buck are not going to go ahead
because, uh, Maddie gets a phone callfrom Tara and Tara is begging Maddie to
come over because she needs her help.
And despite the fact Maddie telling Frankthat she realized what she was doing was

(40:53):
wrong and very sorry, um, she immediatelydrops everything to go and help Tara.

Alice (40:58):
Yeah, Maddie trusted her way too quickly.
I would've been like, is this a trick?
Like, are you trying to getme to lose my job again?
Like,

Bex (41:04):
yeah, like ma'am, this woman came into your workplace, called you
a stalker and nearly got you fired.

Alice (41:10):
Yeah.

Ellen (41:10):
Yeah.

Bex (41:11):
What are you doing?

Ellen (41:13):
And she doesn't even give her any details.
She just says, can you come over?
And Maddie's like, yeah,but I'm, I'm on my way.

Bex (41:19):
I mean, Maddie knows where she lives 'cause she's, you know, cased out
the joint and sat outside the house.

Alice (41:25):
No, she went into the house.

Bex (41:27):
Yeah,

Alice (41:28):
she got invited in.
Well, she kind of invited herself.

Ellen (41:31):
She stalked their bedroom,

Alice (41:32):
I guess

Bex (41:32):
makes it sound like a vampire that she got invited in

Ellen (41:37):
across the threshold.

Alice (41:38):
Do, do we have any evidence that Maddie's not a vampire?

Ellen (41:42):
Have you ever seen her in a mirror?
Yeah.
Yeah, we have.
I think

Bex (41:47):
the fact that she lives in LA and yet goes out in the sun a lot,

Alice (41:51):
um, some vampires can go out in the sun.
Haven't you watched Twilight?

Ellen (41:54):
Yeah, but she doesn't sparkle

Bex (41:56):
I was about to say, and she doesn't sparkle.

Alice (41:59):
Um, it's LA, everybody sparkles.

Ellen (42:02):
Oh, I guess so.

Bex (42:03):
But too much highlighter use, huh?

Ellen (42:08):
Well, she, she does literally get invited across the threshold
when she gets to Tara's place.
But Tara's got all blood all over her.
She's, um, she's holding a gun and,and her hands are covered in blood and
she's got like a cut lip and everything.
And she's,

Alice (42:24):
yeah.
She's not looking good.

Ellen (42:27):
And, "we fought.
He came after me.
He was so mad." And Maddie's like,"oh my God, what have you done?"

Alice (42:32):
Tara's holding a gun

Bex (42:34):
and Maddie doesn't do anything to take it away from her.

Alice (42:37):
Yeah.

Bex (42:37):
Does not try to disarm her

Ellen (42:38):
Yeah, she's waving it around.

Alice (42:39):
Yeah.

Bex (42:41):
But later on in this scene when Tara is getting really, um,
agitated, she's actually pointingthe gun at Maddie at one point.

Ellen (42:50):
Yeah,

Bex (42:50):
but like it's, seriously, Maddie, secure the scene.
Get that gun away from her.
Yes.
Don't worry about the almost dead guy onthe rug, because if Tara squeezes that
trigger, um, you could be joining him.

Alice (43:04):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
The first,

Bex (43:06):
but no, she does not do that.

Alice (43:08):
The first step of like first aid slash CPR in
Australia at least is "danger".

Bex (43:14):
Yeah.
Remove all hazards.

Alice (43:16):
Remove the danger

Bex (43:18):
like a gun!

Ellen (43:19):
Or remove yourself from the danger.
Yeah.
But she runs right into it.
Um, she thinks, looks at like the stateof Tara and says, "You killed him."
And Tara's like, "I thought I did.
And he, but he is still alive."
So yeah, she finds Vincent on the rug.
He's like lying on his back.
He's got a hole in his uppershoulder kind of area, I guess.

(43:46):
And I'm guessing it's gone through a lung.
I don't know if we ever find outexactly what happened here, but, um,

Bex (43:54):
I'm guessing by the fact to the fact that Maddie does.

Ellen (43:57):
Yeah.
She cuts into his lungs.

Bex (43:59):
The fact that she does a thoracotomy kind of indicates that the reason
he was gasping and struggling tobreathe was he has a collapsed lung.
So she's had to like, uh, givethe lung room to expand properly.
Um, but yeah, that, that seemslike a very odd place to be shot
that would collapse your lung.

(44:20):
But what do I know?
I'm not a doctor.
I don't even play one on tv.

Alice (44:26):
Um, yeah, Maddie, the point is that Maddie tries to call 9-1-1
and Tara refuses to let her andsays "You can't. That's why I called
you." And Maddie's like "to do what?To stand her and watch him die."

Ellen (44:39):
Yeah.
Tara doesn't know whatshe wants apparently.

Alice (44:42):
Yeah.
She's like, he can't die.
But should he die?

Bex (44:46):
She said he can't die.
And I'm going, God, whatkind of monster is he?
If he can't die,

Alice (44:51):
he's another vampire.

Ellen (44:52):
A vampire!

Alice (44:53):
Damn it.
Maddie.
What are you doing?

Ellen (44:57):
Uh, is she, she called Maddie to be her conscience, or

Bex (45:01):
I don't think she knew what she was doing

Ellen (45:03):
to, to tell her that it's okay for her to kill him?
Yeah, but she didn't know that Maddiekilled her, Doug, until Maddie tells her.
Um, and Maddie says that, you know, I haveto live with that for the rest of my life.
That I killed someone I used to love.
You know, everything in your life getsworse if he dies, is what she says.

Bex (45:20):
Yeah.
While she's doing this, she has racedinto the kitchen, grabbed a knife,
grab some ammonia from under the sink.

Alice (45:27):
Oh my God.
When Maddie grabbed the knife, I waslike, uh, killing Tara's not the answer.

Ellen (45:33):
I'm

Alice (45:33):
like, what're

Ellen (45:34):
you doing

Alice (45:36):
wIth that, Maddie?.

Ellen (45:38):
Like stab, is she gonna put him him outta his misery by like, you know,

Alice (45:42):
stabs Tara.
It's like, okay, cleaned up the scene.
We're all good.

Bex (45:47):
Oh no.
She uses it.
So to perform a thoracotomy, whichfunnily enough is the second time that
Maddie has performed a field thoracotomy.
Although the last time she just used likeGlad wrap to create a a seal, um, which
would allow the victim to keep breathing.
This time she literally sticks her fingerin the wound to keep the wound open.

Alice (46:12):
She finds cotton wool in the kitchen, but she can't find Glad Wrap.

Bex (46:16):
Yeah, I don't know.
I think it's, I think it's the, it'sthe drama of having, um, eventually
Tara calls gives in and calls 9-1-1,and then we get Officer Williams
bursting into the house and tellingeveryone to put their hands up and
Maddie just goes, I can put one hand up.

Alice (46:32):
Yeah,

Bex (46:32):
the other one needs to stay here.
Or that's gonna bleed out.

Alice (46:36):
Mentioned last time.
Does, does America have Glad Wrap?
They call it like cling film, don't they?

Bex (46:41):
Yeah,

Alice (46:41):
but do that, do they have Glad as a brand?
No.

Ellen (46:45):
No idea.

Bex (46:46):
I think GLAD is an Australian brand.

Alice (46:48):
It's like how they call it like tissues, Kleenex and
we don't call them Kleenex.
Like all cling film here is Glad Wrap.
Yeah.
Aldi brand.
It's Glad Wrap.
It's fine.

Ellen (46:58):
But we don't call tissues Kleenex.

Alice (47:02):
Kleenex, yeah.

Ellen (47:03):
We do have Kleenex though.

Alice (47:05):
Yeah, but they're tissues.

Ellen (47:06):
It's complicated.
Yeah.

Alice (47:09):
Yeah.
So Glad Wrap is cling film,just so everyone knows.

Bex (47:12):
Sorry.
Yes.
Australianism slipping in.
Um, the 9-1-1 call that Maddie makesis interesting because she immediately
goes into professional mode and givesher dispatch number and gives all of the
pertinent information and says, don'task me any questions, don't route me
through to Stephanie Gaskins in the EMD.
Just get police and paramedics here andbe advised there is a gun on the scene.

Alice (47:36):
Yeah.
She doesn't actually say theaddress either, so I guess they
just teleport to Maddie's location.

Bex (47:43):
I'm guessing that the next thing she says is possibly the address.

Alice (47:47):
Yeah, but the address is supposed to be the first thing you say.
Well, apparently her badgenumber is more important.
Way more important.
That's it anyway.
Like at, like even Buck I'm prettysure gave the location anyway,
like when Chimney was stabbed.

Bex (48:04):
Well, even when he was following, um, the, the woman with the, the dead guy.
The not so dead guy.
Yeah.
It was like, "This is Evan Buckley.I am LAFD, I am following a car
on this road and this road." Yep.
So, yeah, apparently Buck is reallygood at, at making 9-1-1 calls.

(48:24):
Maddie's only good at receiving them.

Ellen (48:29):
I'm sure the address must have been given at some point.
Otherwise they wouldn't have shown up.

Alice (48:32):
They have, they all have their skills.

Bex (48:34):
I have a feeling Abby did the same when she called.
Like way back when she had to do the,

Alice (48:39):
I'm guessing it's just because they can't be bothered
making up addresses all the time.
Probably.
Yeah.
But it just irritates me becauselike the first thing you're
supposed to give is the address.

Ellen (48:49):
Well, I mean, when you're panicking it's not, you can
remember the order of stuff,

Bex (48:53):
but she's not panicking, that's the point.
She's, if she canremember her badge number.
Yeah.
And she can go very sternly say,don't ask me protocol questions.
Surely she would remember, like oneof the fucking protocol questions
is where are you calling from?

Alice (49:06):
Yeah.
The guy's just like, "But Maddie,"and she's like, "I said, don't ask
me any questions." It's like, no,but where, where are you calling?

Bex (49:11):
I just, you're not calling from a landline, you're on cell phone.
We need your address.

Alice (49:16):
We can't be triangulating.
Maddie, can you justtell us where you are?

Ellen (49:22):
Anyway.
They take him, they get himall, you know, all good.
And then take him in away in theambulance and Tara's like holding
his hand and looking all concerned.
And Maddie's just like, areyou kidding me right now?
Like, he's, he just attacked you.

Bex (49:38):
You just shot him, him, and he shot him

Ellen (49:39):
because he was trying and now you like was

Bex (49:41):
trying to kill you.
Okay.

Alice (49:46):
And Maddie, who is covered in blood, is just like rolling her eyes.

Ellen (49:50):
Yeah.

Bex (49:54):
But for nav, for a bit of change of pace, we're going off to the day spa.
Mm-hmm.
Where there are no crystals.

Ellen (50:01):
No, it does look quite nice.
It looks quite busy.
There's a lot of people around.

Alice (50:05):
Yeah.

Bex (50:05):
It doesn't look very relaxing.

Alice (50:07):
No.
Hen hen's sounding a bit cynicalat first and Karen's like,
"Look, you know, we can go home."
And Hen's like, "No.
Like, it would be nice to spendnice to, nice for us to spend a
few days away from everything.
Um, and everyone we know, just me andyou." And then immediately, immediately

(50:28):
someone's calling out "Henrietta Wilson?"

Bex (50:32):
I watched that bit and was like, it's just me and you.
And then my brain is gone.
And your friend, Steve.

Alice (50:37):
Do do do do dodo do, Steve.

Bex (50:39):
Steve, Stacey, um, yes.
Your friend Stacey, who was apparentlyalso at the resort and is thrilled to
see Hen and wants to, um, buy Hen drinks.
No, she upgrades it.
She must buy them dinner.

Alice (50:59):
Yeah.
Dinner.

Bex (51:01):
Um, Hen looks completely shellshocked.
Karen is like, who is this womanthat apparently knows my wife
that I've never met before?
Yeah.

Alice (51:11):
Karen's like, you're a bit more so older and sober than my
wife's normal type, but I'm sure

Ellen (51:17):
she's the lady that we met in "Hen Begins" who had a heart attack.
Uh, yeah, the life, the life coach.
Yeah.
Yes.
And that's why Hen becamea paramedic, which she

Bex (51:28):
Allegedly.

Ellen (51:29):
Explains to Karen.
Yeah.
That's one of the reasonsshe became a paramedic.

Bex (51:32):
I'm still salty about that.

Ellen (51:36):
Um, and Karen thinks it's serendipity that she's run into
someone whose life she's saved,but he Hen calls bullshit on that.

Bex (51:45):
I wanna know if this episode was perhaps meant to be called "Serendipity".
The number of times thatpeople say that word.

Alice (51:51):
Oh my God.
Serendip.
It just keeps getting said.

Bex (51:55):
Especially in Hen's storyline.
Yeah.

Alice (51:59):
I don't think I've ever used the word serendipity in my life before.
And these people are just like,let's say it every second word.
Yes.
Like even Hen's just likeit's a fucking coincidence.
Like Jesus Christ.
But Karen's just thrilled 'cause sheoffered to buy them dinner and they
should take her up on it, which, fair

Bex (52:17):
Free food.
Yep.
I'm, I'm on Karen's side.
Yeah.
I mean, those meals are probablyreally expensive and I doubt that
they're inclusive in the spa.

Alice (52:25):
Whenever, like anyone at work asks if I want, wanna do a
stock take, I'm like, absolutely.
Because they always give you free food.
Yeah.
It's the only reason to do it.
I'm happy to count for three hoursif it means that I get pizza.

Bex (52:37):
Uh, Hen does not wanna go to dinner because she does not want to have a
conversation where she and Stacey catchup and she's like, "oh, what are you
doing?" "Oh, yes, I'm a paramedic.
Oh yeah.
Life is great, by the way.
I just killed someone."

Alice (52:49):
Yeah.
I just killed a girl.

Bex (52:51):
Which Karen is like, oh shit, not this again.
Look, we've talked about this.
You did not kill anyone.
It was an accident.
And Dan's like, yeah, it was an accident.
Or maybe that was serendipity too.

Alice (53:05):
And yeah, I'd love if it was, if someone could just give me
a reason why that poor girl is deadand why I just walked away without
a scratch and I'm just like, ah.
It's 'cause the girl's car was alot smaller than the ambulance.
Like that's how it works.

Bex (53:16):
Yeah.
It was like a, a little plastic Japanesecar versus the giant metal box that
you drive around in that has everysingle safety feature known to mankind.

Alice (53:26):
Yeah.
Like ambulances are supposed to be able towithstand a car crash because like you're
going through intersection, but Sure.
Yeah.
Can't work out why.
Um, yeah.

Bex (53:35):
And they have a bit of, they have a discussion about, um, hen's memory.
She's like, I know that the reportsays that I pressed the button,
but I don't remember doing it.
And I feel like we couldshow you the footage hand.
'cause we quite clearly sawthat you did press the button.
I feel like this conversation would've alot more weight if we as the audience had

(53:55):
not seen her physically press the button.
Um, but we did.
So we're on Karen's side, like,yeah, you fucking pressed the button.
Get over it.
Um.
So Karen tries to counter with, doyou remember putting on your seatbelt?
I don't remember brushingmy teeth this morning.
Sometimes we just do a millionlittle tasks on autopilot and
we don't remember doing them.

Alice (54:15):
Yeah, like hen's, like I should remember that was an important moment.
And Karen's like, only in retrospect whenyou push that button, it was just another
day because Yeah, like when she pushed thebutton, she had no idea that the lights
weren't gonna change on the other side.

Ellen (54:30):
Yeah.

Alice (54:32):
She needs to be able to trust herself and it every day.
Yeah.
Probably multiple times a day.

Bex (54:37):
Yeah.
I don't, I don't feel like the, Ihave to trust myself and my instinct
line really matches with, I don'tremember pressing the button.
Yeah.
Because it wasn't herinstinct that failed her.
It wasn't her, her instinct was fine.
She pressed the button,the technology failed her.
There was no way that shehad any control over that.

Alice (54:56):
You know, I get why it still feels like her fault.

Bex (55:00):
Oh yeah, 100%.
We are going to leave the day spaand we are going back to the hospital
where Buck is getting a cup of liketruly terrible ho hospital coffee.
Um, because the, he's doing the, the goodlittle brother thing and he's sitting in
the waiting room with Maddie while shewaits to hear about Tara and Vincent.

Ellen (55:20):
Well, they had plans for tonight anyway, so he may as well.

Bex (55:24):
Yeah, he had nothing better to do, go and gone I guess.
My don't think he, he particularlythought he'd be hanging out in
a hospital waiting room again.

Ellen (55:29):
No, no.
But he's going to pick her up.

Bex (55:34):
That's probably it.
She needs,

Ellen (55:35):
He, he thinks doing a, a finger thoracostomy is kind of badass
and she, he's trying to buckher up by saying, you know,

Bex (55:45):
He's trying to buck her up?

Ellen (55:46):
You say so.

Alice (55:48):
Well, she is a Buck.

Ellen (55:49):
I a hundred percent meant to say that.
No, um, you know, yousaved you guys' life.
You know, one who did not deserve it and.
Matt Zago.
No one deserves to die.

Bex (56:00):
Officer Williams comes back at this point and tells her that she's free
to go, that she doesn't need to give astatement because, um, he spoke to Vincent
before they wheeled him into surgery andapparently he shot himself with his gun.

Alice (56:14):
Yeah.
Somehow in the shoulder.

Bex (56:16):
Yeah.
And I'm sure that if they checkedhis hands, he would've no gun
residue powder on his hands.
But they can't kind of, they have totake him at his word, even though,
even though Officer Williams does notbelieve a single word out of his mouth.
But he tells Maddie that she's free to go.
And then Tara comes out.

Ellen (56:36):
Oh yeah, she's really happy to see Maddie.
She wanted to thank her, but, um,and, and she says that he Vincent's
gonna forgive her if she would forgivehim, and we can make things work.
And Maddie's like, whatare you talking about?
No,

Bex (56:52):
Tara's still like, it can be different.
We can be different.
He promised.
He promised things can be differentand Maddie's just like, oh fuck.
Fuck's sake.
Nope.

Ellen (57:02):
No, Maddie can't believe what she's hearing.
And Buck asks her if she wants to.
Like Tara leaves.
She's really happy and Buck asks herif she wants to hang, if Maddie wants
to hang around in case she need to.
But Maddie just says, "No,I can't help her anymore."

Bex (57:20):
I feel like this episode needs to end with one of those, you know,
when you watch a, uh, based on reallife kind of movie or TV show and that
the, just before you get to the endcredits, it gives you the, what happened
after the movie finished in real life?

Ellen (57:35):
Oh, yeah.

Bex (57:36):
Yeah.
I feel like there needs to be,at the end of this episode, they
go like six months later, Tarawas found dead at her own house.
Mm.

Alice (57:42):
Oof.

Bex (57:42):
Um, and Vincent has disappeared.

Ellen (57:46):
Yeah.
I think unfortunately this isbased on many real life stories
where this actually does happen.
Like even.
If, if a victim of domestic abuse getsreally seriously injured, they will still
say that it wasn't, it wasn't their faultand you know, everything's gonna be fine.
We're gonna be together again.
And it's hard, it'shard to leave, I'm sure.

Alice (58:09):
And it's hard to support people when they don't wanna leave as well.
Um, yeah, especially in Maddie's case.
'cause like, they're not friends.
Like she knows this woman justbecause she did a like 9-1-1 call.

Ellen (58:22):
Yeah.
Well, I mean, there's nothingthat she can do at this point.
It's just like you are not gonnabe able to talk her into it.

Bex (58:28):
Let's talk about something a little bit more pleasant.

Alice (58:31):
Yeah.
We go from the hospital and, youknow, some sadness to the gayest
scene in the history of the show.

Bex (58:39):
Ellen, you finally got to see the kitchen scene

Ellen (58:43):
actually when, when it first came on and I saw them,
the two of them standing thereand I turned to, my sister-in-law
went, is this the kitchen scene?
She's like, yeah, yeah,this kitchen scene.
I'm like, oh.

Alice (58:54):
It's like I recognize the clothes.
As soon as it comes on, I'm like,oh, well it's that hoodie, let's go.

Ellen (58:59):
I'm like, oh, I've seen this on Tumblr, I'm sure.

Alice (59:03):
Um, so we're at Buck's loft.
Eddie and Chris have bothcome over for dinner.
Like, let's keep in mind through thiswhole scene that Chris is sitting
on the couch in the living area.

Bex (59:14):
Yeah, we know that because we see him sitting on the couch and as Eddie
is clearing the plates and bringing themfrom the living area into the kitchen.
So yes, Ellen, Chris is here,

Alice (59:26):
but yeah, they're having a lovely conversation about how Tara shot
Vincent and then took him back and, youknow, Chris is just like, yep, cool.
It's fine.
I'm.
Totally not deaf, but just act like I am.

Bex (59:39):
I feel like Chris has just perfected the, I'm just going to block out anything
I can see and hear from these two.
For my own, like self-preservation,

Ellen (59:49):
he, he's probably watching something on tv.

Bex (59:52):
He probably is

Alice (59:53):
just turns the volume up and just like stares at the tv.
Just like, yep.
Don't wanna know.

Bex (59:59):
Yeah, like the loft is open plan, so there's nothing between where Chris
is and the kitchen and where Eddie endsup standing with his back to the sink.
He's very, he can just look to theside and he can see Chris, which
means that if Chris looks to theside, he could see Eddie and then
Buck when Buck gets really close

Alice (01:00:19):
And Buck's loft's not that big, like I'm sure then
they're not talking super quietly.

Bex (01:00:24):
No.
And it's very like hardwood floorsand, and brick exposed brick walls.
So I'm guessing the soundabsorption is like, it's probably
pretty echoy in there too.
So yes, this poor child hasbeen put through the ringer yet
again with these two idiots.

Ellen (01:00:41):
And they haven't said anything particularly nasty.
So like inappropriate.

Alice (01:00:45):
I mean, they're talking about a shooting to start off with, um,
which Eddie compares to his marriage.
Yeah.

Bex (01:00:54):
Buck segues from discussions about his sister and Tara to him and Eddie.
He says that, um, it's hard tosave someone from their selves.
Not if they don't wanna be saved,especially if you aren't around
to see that they need saving.

(01:01:16):
And he gives a very pointed look atEddie and then proceeds to apologize
for probably like the 15 millionth time.

Alice (01:01:22):
Yeah, "sorry I wasn't there. You and Chris needed me and I had,
and I had my head so far up my ownbehind with that stupid lawsuit."
So like, is he censoring himself?
'cause Chris is there now, like,

Bex (01:01:32):
I don't know, maybe they used up their quota of swear words,
but that should have been ass.

Alice (01:01:38):
That should have been ass,

Bex (01:01:38):
should have been "I had my head so far up my own ass."

Alice (01:01:41):
And Eddie says that they're way past that, but Buck says he's not.
He should have been there and maybehe could have talked some sense into
Eddie And Eddie's, just like you talksense into me, that had been interesting

Bex (01:01:54):
back tries to say, well, I could have talked you out of buying that truck.
And Eddie's like, yeah, youwould've talked me into buying
something a lot more expensive.
And he, he tells Buck, justdon't beat yourself up about it.
It got out of hand.
Um, which Buck counters with why?
'cause you'd rather do it.
And this is where the conversation,

(01:02:19):
the, the acting choices of thesetwo once again comes into question.
Because why all of a sudden isthis conversation that could have
been like about two bros, aboutto square up and fight, sound
like they're about to have sex?

Alice (01:02:34):
Who directed this?
Like, who wrote this and who directedthis because like, what, what, what?

Bex (01:02:40):
It's not, it's not Andrew Meyer.
This one was written by Juan CarlosCoto, um, and directed by, I gotta
go back up to the beginning of mydocument, but I did look it up.
Marcus Stokes.
So it's not the usual suspectswhen it comes to the homoeroticism
between Buck and Eddie.
It's just Ryan and Oliver.

Alice (01:03:01):
Yeah.
Fair.

Bex (01:03:01):
And I really wanna see like, did they, did they try and get them
to go in another direction and theyjust couldn't get them away from this
flirtatious acting choices and theyjust gave up and went, okay, fine.
Apparently that's what we're gonna get.
Was this the intention behindthe scene the entire time?

(01:03:23):
Like a fly on a wall, please.
I would love to havebeen a fly on the wall.
So let's, let's keep going.

Ellen (01:03:30):
Where are we?
"If you're not gonna be honest withFrank, at least be honest with me."

Alice (01:03:36):
And Eddie goes, "who says, I wasn't being honest with Frank."

Bex (01:03:38):
If the, they eventually get to the point where Buck tells him that, uh,
"You don't think that when you were goingthrough your phase, just maybe you were
throwing your punches at the wrong guy?"

Ellen (01:03:49):
And he thought he was gonna punch him in the supermarket.
And he was like, yeah, we all thought youwere gonna punch him in the supermarket.
Yeah,

Bex (01:03:57):
Eddie counters like, "I wouldn't do that to you.
You're on blood thinners." And thenBuck says, "Well I'd still take you."

Ellen (01:04:08):
Yeah.

Bex (01:04:09):
And then he,

Alice (01:04:10):
you think so?

Bex (01:04:11):
He swag, he swaggers.
There is no other, it's like acowboy swagger over, 'cause at this
point Eddie is still like leaningagainst the sink, whereas Buck had
been getting beers outta the fridge.
So he was behind the like island counter.
So he kind of swaggers hisway around the counter.

(01:04:32):
He's literally got like one handtucked into the top of his, his
belt loops or his jeans or something
and looks at Eddie and looks atEddie and says, "You wanna go for the
title?" And once again, there is ahundred ways you could say that line.
And if they had meant it tobe some kind of, you know.

(01:04:55):
Astic we're about toget in a fist fight way.
They could have gone like that.
But instead, Oliver says it likethis, which just makes it sound
like somebody's about to get naked.

Alice (01:05:09):
And like Eddie's reaction is to smirk, have a drink from his beer
with like, while wiggling his eyebrow.
And then they cut to the two of themon Buck's couch with Chris in the
middle while they're playing somekind of Street Fighter rip off.

Ellen (01:05:26):
They had to put Chris in between them to break up the kind of tension.

Alice (01:05:29):
And this poor child has just been in this apartment the entire time.
Just like, oh, not again.

Bex (01:05:35):
La la la la.

Alice (01:05:36):
It's happening again.
Can't see this.
I can't hear this.
It's, it's, it's not evenin a hospital this time.
I can't even go find a comatosepatient to sit by the bed of.

Bex (01:05:46):
It's just, I feel like this is one of these scenes where if you
showed it to somebody out of context.
Tell me what is happening in this scene.
The only interpretation that theycould bring out of this scene
is that these guys are flirting.

Ellen (01:06:00):
Yeah.

Bex (01:06:01):
And I mean, I know I'm watching this series through a Buddie lens that I
came into this show looking for, Buddie.
So anytime these two are inproximity, I am looking for signs
that there is something going on.
But I swear, even if you did notbelieve Buddy was a thing, this,
the chemistry here, the whateverthe fuck is going on between them

(01:06:22):
is kind of undeniable in this scene.
At least.

Alice (01:06:25):
It's ridiculous.
Um, like my notes from thefirst time I watched this scene
was just, this shit is so gay.
That was all I had tosay about this scene.

Ellen (01:06:39):
Well, even stepping away from the, the last few seconds that
are, that do take it to the nextlevel, um, the beginning of the
scene, I was like, so Buck is, isapologizing for not being there.
Because they needed him and hewasn't there and like had not having
seen anything after this point.

(01:07:00):
Like we haven't really seen, likeI know they work together and
they've been, obviously, we knowthat they have done things together
and with Chris quite a lot, the

Alice (01:07:10):
things together, what,

Ellen (01:07:12):
you know what I'm talking like outside, I'm not talking about that,
those things at the moment, but wehaven't really seen the building of their,
any kind of relationship between them.
Uh, like we, they've been friends overtime, but the, like, the way that Buck
is apologizing for not being thereseems like, um, you know, it's, it's

(01:07:32):
like to a level that I, I wouldn'thave expected so soon, I guess.
Um, it, but then I remembered thatChris and Eddie have just lost Shannon.
They've been through a lot and.
And, you know, Buck's been offdoing this other stuff, so yeah.
Okay.
I can see why he'd be wanting to apologizeand feeling bad for not being there.

(01:07:53):
But yeah, when the first time I waswatching it going, why, why are you so
upset about not being there for them?
Like, you're not, they're not family.
Like,

Alice (01:08:00):
He feels bad for being an absent father.
Okay.

Ellen (01:08:02):
Yeah.
Yeah, that's the thing.
Like, they don't live together.
They're not like, you know, hedoesn't No, but this is the guy have
any obligation to be there for him?

Bex (01:08:09):
No, but this is the guy that, the first time he saw Eddie struggling, which
was like, within a week of meeting him,he had already threw himself 100% into
helping Eddie and like got Carla and,you know, called the chief and arranged
for, uh, bring your son to work day.

Ellen (01:08:28):
Yeah.

Bex (01:08:28):
So he's very much, if he sees Eddie struggling, he's gonna
go all out to try and help him.
So yeah, he missed, he missed itthis time, this whole thing after
Shannon died, after this tsunami,after everyone was struggling.
Um, if Buck's previous patterns ofbehavior applied Buck would have been
there 110% trying to help him out.

(01:08:49):
But he was, you know, he's had hishead so far up his own ass that he
didn't see it and so he missed it.
So yeah, the apology iscompletely understandable.

Alice (01:08:58):
Have we seen him do the same for Chim and Hen when they're struggling?

Ellen (01:09:02):
Not so much for Buck.
I mean, he does, he he'll ask about them.
He certainly talks to them about them,to other people, but, uh, and he does,
you know, try and speak to them, butwe don't see that on screen as much.
But yeah.
Anyway, I, I was just thinkingthat at the start of the scene
going, why is this like this?

(01:09:23):
And then it, yeah, afterwards I realizedthat, but then I got distracted by the
ending of this scene and I was like, wow.
But it didn't go, it didn't go foras long as I thought it would have.
Like, the way everyone talks about thisscene, I was like, oh, that was short.

Bex (01:09:38):
I think unfortunately, you're coming into this with like.
Everything has just been built up so much.
And your expectations arelike through the roof.
Um, although I am pleased to, I thinkif I'm reading this correctly, that
you're not walking away going like, oh,that's what you guys were talking about?

Ellen (01:10:00):
Oh no, you're still I definitely watched it and went, whoa,

Bex (01:10:04):
you're seeing what we're seeing.

Ellen (01:10:07):
Why, why is he getting so close?
Why
you wanna go for the title?
Oh, oh
yeah.
But it was, it was pretty cute that theythen went, played like Street Fighter.

Bex (01:10:24):
Yeah.
Which then, um, Eddie won.

Ellen (01:10:28):
Yeah.

Bex (01:10:28):
And then demanded that they go for another round.

Ellen (01:10:31):
That's his kind of therapy.

Bex (01:10:33):
Yeah.
Which, I mean, it's kind of Yes.
Beating up Buck is, is therapy.

Alice (01:10:40):
Fair.

Bex (01:10:41):
Alright, speaking of Hen we're gonna go back to the, the spa
restaurant where, uh, Hen and Karenare having dinner with Stacey, who's
also talking about serendipity.
I'm just gonna start callingthis episode Serendipity.

Ellen (01:11:00):
She had a, a near death experience and Karen asked her if she saw anything
and she says, oh, nothing supernatural.
Like, oh, that's a shame.
You should try it.
It's great.

Alice (01:11:10):
Yeah, Sam and Dean were not there.
Um, but she has seen no sign of Castiel

Ellen (01:11:17):
Damnit.
Um, but she's definitely seen things.
She, she saw her daughter walk down theaisle and she's seen some grandchildren.
She's seen the world, so, you know,she's grateful for her second chance
and she thanks Hen for saving her life.
And Hen looks really touched once again.

Bex (01:11:37):
Yeah, I don't buy this scene.

Ellen (01:11:40):
No?

Bex (01:11:40):
And I know that, I know that I'm the cynical one of all of us, and
emotion does not touch me apparently.
Um,
I just,

Ellen (01:11:51):
it seemed a bit, possibly a bit heavy handed maybe with the, um, oh,
here's someone that whose life you savedwho's going to convince you that you
are actually a paramedic for a reason.

Bex (01:12:02):
Yeah.
It felt, it felt like they weretrying to do that scene with Maddie.
Remember where Josh and Sue violatedprivacy protocols and, and stalked all of
Maddie's previous 9-1-1 calls and tried

Alice (01:12:16):
and they didn't get suspended.

Bex (01:12:17):
Yeah, exactly.
Apparently it's different if you doit for someone else, not for your own.
Um,

Ellen (01:12:22):
yeah, Maddie was okay with it.
It wasn't like against her wishes

Bex (01:12:25):
Yeah.
Um, but they, you know, they broughtall the people in to sort of explain
to Maddie like how much she had changedtheir lives to convince her to keep
becoming a team, working as a dispatcher.
I feel like it's, they're trying to dothe same thing here with Hen they've
like brought Stacey back to say, look,you, you changed my life by saving
my life and I'm forever grateful.

(01:12:47):
I just don't know ifit has the same impact.

Alice (01:12:51):
My problem with scenes like this is always that I am so face blind.
Um, like this is coming fromsomeone who didn't recognize Bobby
for the first like six seasons.
Um, but I'm so face blind that like Iwould not have, like if I was, Stacey
would not have recognized Hen, if I wasHen would not have recognized Stacey.
Like not a chance.

(01:13:12):
Um, it's been like over sixyears now since they saw each
other last, like not a chance.
Yeah.

Bex (01:13:19):
It's not even that.
I feel like if Hen was, is so far deepin her depression that with um, and
her obsession with this accident tothe fact that no matter what you're
talking about, she's bringing up, "Hey,do you know Evelyn played the cello?"
Yeah.
I feel like that if this woman issitting in front of her going, "You
know, thanks to you, I got to see mydaughter get married, I got to see

(01:13:41):
grandchildren." Hen would be going,"You know who's never gonna get married?
Evelyn."

Ellen (01:13:45):
That's where I thought this was going.

Alice (01:13:47):
Yeah.

Ellen (01:13:47):
When I was watching this, I was like, oh no, she's
gonna get even worse now because

Bex (01:13:51):
It's gonna make Hen spiral even, even further!

Ellen (01:13:53):
Evelyn's not gonna get all these things.

Bex (01:13:54):
Yes.

Ellen (01:13:55):
But no, she was, she was okay after it.
Like she,

Bex (01:13:59):
yeah, because once again, you cannot have trauma that interferes
with storylines in this show, sothey need Hen to snap out of it.
So they've done this like interventionfrom Temu, um, sort of thing, which
apparently works enough that theycan then like spoiler alert Hen
ends up back, coming back to work.

Ellen (01:14:18):
Yeah.

Bex (01:14:19):
But yeah, I, I don't.
I don't think this scene should work.
And it never has worked.
No matter how many times I'vewatched it, I've watched this scene
and gone, I don't get this scene.

Ellen (01:14:31):
Well, it works for Hen because she's feeling a bit better after it

Bex (01:14:35):
apparently.
'cause she doesn't have a choice.
She has to.
She has to, has to.
It has to work for her.

Ellen (01:14:43):
It's what the writers,

Bex (01:14:43):
They need her back at work.

Ellen (01:14:44):
It's what the writers wrote.
Yes.
Um, so, okay, so we'll go to thesecond emergency of this episode.
Um, this episode's very, it, it's, yeah.
I guess third.
Yeah.
If you include Vincent.
Um, it's a lot of hard cuts, like betweenscenes, like the, the scenes don't

(01:15:07):
sort of flow into each other very well

Bex (01:15:09):
They don't segue naturally.
Yeah.

Ellen (01:15:09):
We're just like, okay, that's the end of that bit.
Now we're gonna go to a truck.

Bex (01:15:15):
Uh, which is the writer that does the really, like, almost
cringey, but they work segues.
'cause we need to have themback 'cause I liked them.

Ellen (01:15:22):
The, the one, the last couple of episodes, whoever wrote those ones
have had some really good segues.

Bex (01:15:28):
Yeah.
But

Ellen (01:15:28):
yeah, this one, so it doesn't really, it's not as smooth, I don't think.

Bex (01:15:33):
No.
It's also interesting that this iskind of where the "fallout" part of
the episode kicks in and we're almostnearly at the end of the episode.

Ellen (01:15:45):
Well, I mean, the medial fell out of the sky.
It's fallout I guess.

Bex (01:15:55):
But like this, normally with episodes, you know, someone says the
episode title, which is why I keptthinking that the episode title should
have been serendipity because everyonekept saying the word serendipity.
So we don't actually get theword fallout until like this,
this emergency right at the end.

Ellen (01:16:13):
Yeah.

Bex (01:16:15):
Uh, so this emergency, we have Ernest and Ankush who are truck drivers.
They are driving a, Ithink a recycling truck?

Alice (01:16:31):
It's a, yeah,

Ellen (01:16:32):
it's like industrial waste kind of thing.

Alice (01:16:34):
It's a container truck.
Like it's a truck that'scarrying a container.
Yes.
Which is like a shipping container.

Bex (01:16:40):
Yeah.

Alice (01:16:41):
It's a small one though.
Anyway, keep going.

Bex (01:16:43):
Yeah.
Uh, we are introduced to them whenthey pull off into a truck stop
in order to filler up with gas.
Um, it looks like they've set itup that Ankush looks like to be a
newer member of the team compared toErnest's um, more experienced driver

(01:17:05):
because Ankush has a like clipboardand he's looking through things and
ticking things off as they're doing.
And so while he's getting ready topump the gas, he says, um, protocol
says we have to inspect the cargo.
And Ernest is like, yeah, yeah, okay.
I'll go and inspect the cargo.
So we see as he goes to the back of the,the trailer on the truck, there is a

(01:17:27):
giant red sticker on the side that says" Combustible 3", which oh, basically is,

Ellen (01:17:37):
oh yeah.
They, they stay on it for ages.
I'm like, oh

Bex (01:17:39):
yes, it's combustible.
It's combust.
Well, did you get thatthis is combustible?
Because this is combustible.

Alice (01:17:44):
Hang on.
It is something in the truck combustible?

Bex (01:17:47):
I think it might be.

Ellen (01:17:47):
Apparently.

Alice (01:17:48):
Oh, shit.

Bex (01:17:49):
Um, so "Combustible 3" basically means that it's flammable liquids
that either have, um, a specificflashpoint, which is the minimum
temperature at which the liquidwill turn to vapor and can ignite.
Um, so either the flashpoint is acertain temperature or the liquids have
been heated and are being transportedabove or close to their flashpoint.

(01:18:13):
Oh.
But unfortunately, Ernest discoversthat it's not just combustible items in
the back of the container truck becausethere are large steel drums hidden up
the back of the container with radiationstickers on them that says that they
are transporting CO 60, which is Cobalt60, which is nuclear waste, pretty much

Ellen (01:18:38):
Radioactive.

Bex (01:18:40):
Yeah.

Ellen (01:18:41):
Yeah.
So the company is cutting corners andthey're not supposed to take radioactive
waste through the middle of the city.

Bex (01:18:48):
And I'm pretty sure that if they had radioactive waste, legally
they should be marking the outsideof the truck to indicate that
there's radioactive waste in there.
Not just combustible

Ellen (01:18:58):
Ankush is trying to look at the manifest of like what
they're carrying basically.
And he, he can't seeanything unusual on it.
And Ernest, who's the other truck driver,says, "Do you see any steel drums on the
list?" And he's like, looking over at him.

Bex (01:19:18):
Yeah.
He literally turns 45 degrees, 90 degrees.

Ellen (01:19:21):
Yeah.
He's not paying attention at all.

Bex (01:19:24):
And, and he is staring at Ankush while he's supposed to be driving.
And he does not, I don't know what hashappened, whether he's missed a turnoff,
but they're headed for a tunnel, whichappears to be under construction.
And I have a feeling that traffichas been rerouted because there's
a lot of cars heading towards him.

Ellen (01:19:42):
Other cars?
Yeah.
Uh, maybe this one lane has beenblocked off or something in there.

Bex (01:19:46):
Yeah, it might, I feel like maybe the, the in the in lane has been cut
off and the outline is only working.
Yeah, basically he's notsupposed to be going that way.
And there is a, a traffic guywho's trying to catch their
attention like, wait, wait, wait.
You gotta stop.
Um, Ankush notices first,gets Ernest's attention.

(01:20:07):
Ernest sort of slams on the brakes, whichjust causes the trailer to jackknife.
So they start careening around insidethe tunnel trying to avoid cars,
um, and eventually end up sort ofat the side of the tunnel up on some
like concrete pylons, which would befine, except then another car comes

(01:20:30):
and slams into the back of them andexplodes and everything catches fire.
And there is a guy in the tunnelwho was watching this happen.
And we see from his perspective thatthe, the truck that's hit Ernest's truck
is, has caught fire and is burning.

(01:20:51):
Um, but it's uh, the normal red orangeflame, whereas the container on the
back of the truck is also on fire.
But that's blueish white.

Ellen (01:21:02):
Yeah, it's weird.
It's weird.
Actually two flames next toeach other and different colors.
It looks really, it's a cool effect.

Bex (01:21:09):
It is.
So he calls 9-1-1 and he gets Maddie andtells her that two trucks just collided.
They're on fire.
The whole place is filling up withsmoke . And as Maddie is taking this
call, Josh's Spidey sense startsstart tingling and sort of scoots his

(01:21:30):
way across over to Maddie's station.
And as Maddie is getting moreinformation, he realizes that there
are other people around the otherstations who are answering calls
about the accident in the tunnel.
So he takes control.
And he tells everybody to reroutetraffic around the tunnel until

(01:21:52):
they know what's burning in there.
They're not letting anyone in.
They're not going to take any chances.

Ellen (01:21:57):
Yeah.
Maddie confirms that the fire is white.

Alice (01:22:00):
Yeah, that's when Maddie says, did you say the fire is white?

Ellen (01:22:03):
Yeah.
So we don't get anyone saying whatit is until later when you know,
they, the 118 arrive and they takea look at it and then Eddie says,
I've put my money on magnesium.

Bex (01:22:14):
'cause apparently Eddie knows all about hazardous waste.

Alice (01:22:17):
Yeah.
I mean he has been inthe fire department...
He's

Ellen (01:22:19):
been, he's been to fire school.

Alice (01:22:20):
A long time.
Yeah, that too,

Ellen (01:22:21):
he knows about stuff.
So they can't put, if it's a magnesiumfire, they can't put water on it
'cause magnesium reacts with water.
So they need liquid nitrogen fire.
Yeah, they need liquid nitrogen instead.
So they get that on the way.

Bex (01:22:38):
Yeah, Ankush has managed to get himself out of the truck at
this point and is on the ground.
So he's easy enough.
They scoop him up, put him on agurney, get him out of the tunnel,
but the cab of the truck is kind ofcrumpled in on itself, and the owner
is trapped behind the steering wheel.

Alice (01:22:57):
Um, yeah.
So they like wedged the jaws inand try and move the front of the
truck, but they're not able to.
And this is where Bobby goes, "Okay,we've got alpha level radiation in this
smoke. We've gotta get him out of heresoon." And this is where I was like,
how are they not playing radiation?
I mean, "Radioactive", becauselike we're so used to the

(01:23:20):
needle drops in this TV show.

Bex (01:23:24):
Maybe that's just a little bit too on the nose.

Ellen (01:23:26):
Yeah, it's not, it's not dramatic enough

Alice (01:23:29):
too on the nose for 9-1-1?

Bex (01:23:31):
I know.
I know.

Alice (01:23:34):
Yeah.
So Ernest like, becomes conscious again.

Ellen (01:23:36):
He wakes up and starts screaming basically.

Alice (01:23:39):
And he becomes calm very quickly.

Ellen (01:23:42):
No, Bobby tells him to be calm and he does.

Alice (01:23:44):
Yeah.
He's like, ah!
And Bobby's like, "Be calm."

Ellen (01:23:46):
Be calm.

Alice (01:23:46):
He's like, okay, my bad.
Okay,

Ellen (01:23:50):
what's going on?

Alice (01:23:51):
Um, and then he is just like, "Oh yeah, there's magnesium in the
back that's burning, but you need toget out because there's Cobalt 60."

Ellen (01:23:58):
And Bobby's eyes just get wider and wider.
And he is like, oh fuck.
And he is like, "You were transportingradioactive waste through the
middle of LA?" And, and Ernest islike "Company's cutting corners."
What are you gonna do anyway, sohe does say on the radio, "the
truck contains Cobalt 60, geteveryone the fuck out of here."

Alice (01:24:21):
Yeah, that's exactly what he says on the radio.

Bex (01:24:22):
Yeah.
And then he kicks Buck and Eddieout of the tunnel says that he'll
stay here, he'll get Ernest out,but everybody else has to leave.

Ellen (01:24:31):
And, but, and like Buck doesn't wanna go.
He's like, "What do you mean?"

Bex (01:24:33):
of course he doesn't

Ellen (01:24:36):
probably's like, get out.

Bex (01:24:36):
I wanna stay with you Daddy!

Alice (01:24:38):
Buck's like "Dad, no!"

Ellen (01:24:40):
Dad.
You can't stay here.
But eventually he's like,okay, let's go, let's go.

Bex (01:24:46):
And we see that the fire, um, the magnesium fire has spread
and is starting to burn the, theexterior of the, the cobalt tanks.
It's burning the, the stickers.

Ellen (01:25:01):
Oh yeah.
I mean, the tension in this scene's great.
This is quite scary by this point.

Bex (01:25:09):
Yeah.
You've got the, like the, the ticking timebomb of when is everything gonna explode?
Can they?

Ellen (01:25:14):
Yeah.
And they're trying to get, get the CO2through, like the liquid nitrogen through
so they can get on top of the fire.
And

Alice (01:25:20):
I do remember this being like super tense the first time I
watched it, but the second, likewhen I watched it again tonight, I
was just like, oh yeah, whatever.
Because I'd already seen it.
Some of them really like lack the,like, the tension the second time.
Like some of them holdup really, really well.
Yes.
And some of them it's just like, eh, yeah.
Um, like Maddie

(01:25:41):
You knew

Ellen (01:25:41):
what's gonna happen

Alice (01:25:42):
in Yeah.
Like Maddie and Doug'sis still super tense.
Yeah.
But this one I was just like, eh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Gee, I hope Bobby doesn't die.

Ellen (01:25:53):
Yeah.
No one, no one gets, like, noone actually dies at the end
of this song, I don't think.
Unless the, I mean, I'm assumingthe driver of the car that hit
the back of the truck probablydied 'cause his car exploded.

Bex (01:26:04):
I don't think anybody cared about him.
No.
I don't think anybody checked on him.

Ellen (01:26:09):
No.
No one mentioned anything.

Alice (01:26:10):
He didn't play the cello.
Um, but yeah, hazmat's not there yet.
Nitros not there yet.
Um, because there are too manycars trying to evacuate downtown.
So they've been delayed and soBuck's like, "Okay, they're not
here, we're coming back to you."And Bobby's like, "Ah, no."

Bex (01:26:28):
No,

Alice (01:26:28):
"The cobalt has ignited. We're at gamma radiation
level," and I was like, oh shit.
Bobby's gonna turn into the Hulk.

Bex (01:26:36):
That would be cool.

Ellen (01:26:38):
That'd be so cool.
But no,

Bex (01:26:43):
wouldn't it be cool though if like the gamma radiation did the,
like the next couple of seasonswas just Bobby having superpowers?

Alice (01:26:50):
Yeah.
And Bobby just hulkingout whenever he gets mad,

Ellen (01:26:53):
he just pick up the fire truck when it falls on top of Buck.

Alice (01:26:57):
And then they'd like, they wouldn't even, they wouldn't even find a cure.
They'd just forget thathe had those powers.

Ellen (01:27:03):
Yeah.
And every now and again,he'd just be like,

Alice (01:27:05):
and then all of a sudden at the end of season seven, they'd
come back and he'd be cured forsome reason by the cartel in Mexico.
Um.
Anyway, so

Bex (01:27:17):
spoilers!

Ellen (01:27:18):
I don't even know what you're talking about, but okay.

Alice (01:27:22):
Bobby grabs a fire extinguisher, which is apparently there, um,

Bex (01:27:26):
just so happens to be like at his feet, oh, look, here's a fire extinguisher
that someone prepared earlier.

Alice (01:27:32):
I haven't used that the entire time, but should probably use it now.
Um, so yeah, it does nothing pretty much,

Bex (01:27:42):
I think it makes things worse because as he's spraying the, the CO2
on the fire, it just creates more,like more smoke starts billowing.
Um, and for this particular emergency,Bobby's wearing a, like gas detector,
a port portable gas detector onhis uniform, which was at green.
But as soon as he hits the flameswith the CO2, that thing goes red.

(01:28:07):
Yeah.
So I think in trying to save, trying tobuy himself some more time, he's just
made things like three times worse.

Ellen (01:28:14):
Oh.

Alice (01:28:16):
Um, but thank goodness when he, like he was out of, um, the
fire extinguisher stuff, um, what dothey call, it's, I'm sure there's a
scientific name that's not "stuff".
Um,

Ellen (01:28:29):
the contents of the fire extinguisher?

Alice (01:28:31):
Yeah.
Once he gets through the contents ofthe fire extinguisher, he radios that
he's out and wears the liquid nitrogenand Eddie's like, oh, it's here.
It's fine.

Bex (01:28:41):
Yeah.
They, they don't really stringthe tension out very long.
Yeah.
The Nitro has shown up as well asthe hazmat team, um, which, if the
closed captions are to be believed,this is the same hazmat team that
showed up in "Ocean's 9-1-1".

Alice (01:28:57):
Oh, that's cool.

Bex (01:28:57):
And when you look at the Wiki.
Which lists all of the like gueststars and like the people who
were accredited for this episode.
Uh, it was also Captain Bowman and it'sthe same actor that was in "Ocean's
9-1-1", which I guess makes sense.
I mean, how many hazmatteams would you have in la?

Alice (01:29:16):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I guess that's why they took so long.
It's just the one, but the only one.
It's just the one.
Um, he asks where the captain isand Buck says "Inside." Bowman goes,
"How long has he been in there?"
And Buck just goes "Too long."Like that doesn't help anyone.
Like give a rough timeframe.

(01:29:36):
You're a firefighter, not a civilian.
Like you.
Jesus Christ.

Bex (01:29:40):
Just like too long could be like, is it two minutes too
long or 15 minutes too long?
Because

Alice (01:29:45):
Right.
Exactly.

Bex (01:29:46):
That's a vast difference when it comes to like gamma radiation exposure.
Like all gamma radiation exposure is bad,but two minutes exposure is going to be
much better than 15 minutes exposure.

Alice (01:29:57):
Yeah.

Ellen (01:29:57):
It's not as pithy and dramatic.

Alice (01:30:01):
Jesus.
It just reminded me of, um, itreminded me of in it's the start of
"Tombstone" in Supernatural wherelike Cas comes back, spoilers, and
goes, "How long have I been gone?"and Dean just goes, "Too damn long."
And then poor Cas like gets back tothe bunker and Jack is a fully grown

(01:30:22):
adult and he's just like, holy fuck,have I really been gone 20 years?
Yeah.
Like Sam and Dean aged real well for 20years, but like, Jack's an entire adult.
Like Jesus Christ.

Ellen (01:30:32):
That's right.

Alice (01:30:33):
Um, and then I'm sure later that day Sam's just like, "oh
yeah, it was a real shit like twoweeks." And Cas is like, "What?"

Ellen (01:30:41):
Dean's been inconsolable,

Alice (01:30:44):
but like use timeframes, people timeframes,
but yeah, hazmat get in, um, tap outBobby and they get Ernest out as well.

Bex (01:30:56):
Yeah.
'cause once the, um.
Hazmat go in to get Bobby, the 118 getin with the Nitro, which means that
they're able to extinguish the flamesso that the other members of the 118
can come in with the big circular saw.
'cause they can use that now thatthe fire has been contained and they
don't have to worry about sparkspotentially igniting the, the gas cloud

Alice (01:31:18):
or turning into the Hulk 'cause of the gamma radiation.
Yeah.

Ellen (01:31:22):
Yeah.
I was a bit surprised they, they made,when Bobby came out, they made him
go in the decontamination, you know,hazmat tent then to be, you know,
washed off and decontaminated basically.
But they didn't do thesame thing to Ernest.
They just loaded him into theambulance and off he went.

Alice (01:31:43):
Yeah.
They're just like, bye.

Ellen (01:31:44):
Yeah, he's had plenty of radiation too.

Bex (01:31:46):
Yeah.
And I, I guess maybe he wasin the cab for a lot of it,
so he would've been protected.

Ellen (01:31:53):
Yeah, but the door was open.

Alice (01:31:54):
No, the door was open.

Bex (01:31:56):
He was, I know, but, but he wasn't like standing right in the, and
extinguishing and getting the smokewashing over him the way Bobby was.

Alice (01:32:06):
I don't think it ma... like the people of Chernobyl weren't protected
just 'cause they were inside the house.
Like

Bex (01:32:12):
I, I guess also they're taking, like, they're not putting
Ernest into a normal ambulance.
He's going with the hazmat team intolike a hazmat special ambulance.

Alice (01:32:21):
Oh, is he?
Okay, cool.

Ellen (01:32:22):
Yeah,

Alice (01:32:22):
that probably makes more sense.

Bex (01:32:23):
Yeah, because they're walking, they, they push him past,
um, Chim and the 118 ambulance.

Alice (01:32:29):
Oh, I just figured that they push him past the 118 ambulance
because Ankush is going in there.

Bex (01:32:34):
No, I'm assuming that considering it was the full hazmat team, he would've
been continuing to go with the hazmatteam, which would take him to a special
part of the hospital where they couldcontain the, the, like, the radiation.
I mean, while they,

Ellen (01:32:44):
I mean, it does make sense because he, you know, requires immediate,
you know, emergency assistance.
So they need to get, get himon the way to the hospital.
But.
Yeah.
Rather than wait for a whilefor him to have a shower.

Bex (01:32:59):
But then it's also like raising him off the, the drama of having, you
know, these two guys in hazmats, stripBobby of all of his equipment and put
that into radioactive like hazardouswaste bags and then build the shower
and put him in it and hose him down and

Ellen (01:33:13):
yeah.
Poor Bobby, he just looks abit shocked by the whole thing.

Alice (01:33:19):
And they do take Bobby to hospital.
Yep.

Ellen (01:33:23):
Yep.

Alice (01:33:24):
Um, 'cause we cut to Bobby in a hospital bed with
Athena and she's hovering.

Ellen (01:33:31):
Bless her,

Alice (01:33:35):
"Dr. Alternative world Michael", we're full of the
Supernatural, this episode.

Ellen (01:33:38):
We are very supernaturally this episode.
But I did actually say the samething when he, when he walked in,
I'm like, oh, that's Michael again.

Bex (01:33:45):
It's Michael!

Ellen (01:33:46):
I don't know what his real name is.
What his name is in, in this show.

Alice (01:33:49):
There's only one, there's only one doctor in this hospital.
There's only one hazmat team in this city.
It's fine.

Bex (01:33:54):
Calloway.
His name is Dr. Calloway.

Ellen (01:33:57):
Michael Calloway?

Alice (01:33:59):
Uh, Dr. Alternative world.
Michael Callaway?

Bex (01:34:01):
Yeah.
Just, just Dr. Callawayis all we're given.
Um, yes.
Who is giving Bobby the results ofall of the, the battery of tests
that they've run on him, whichfor the most part is pretty good.
Um, except for his urine test, whichunsurprisingly, considering that the body

(01:34:23):
processes and excretes cobalt throughthe urine has traces of cobalt in it,

Alice (01:34:29):
liver enzymes are also not where he'd like them to be.
But he's not about tosound any alarms yet.

Bex (01:34:36):
Could that just be because Bobby's an alcoholic?

Alice (01:34:40):
I mean, he hasn't been an alcoholic in a while and livers
regenerate, so, but he's also notready to sound any alarms yet.
However, he is cautious by nature

Ellen (01:34:48):
and they're gonna, they, they're gonna send him home, but he is gotta
have a bunch of tests to make sure that

Alice (01:34:53):
there's no...
Yeah.
Once a week for the next six weeks

Ellen (01:34:55):
long term effects.
And Athena tells him that she's notready to be a widow and basically tells
him off for putting himself in dangeroussituation, which I don't know if you
checked Athena, that that's his job.

Alice (01:35:08):
It's

Ellen (01:35:09):
also her job does that every day.
Yeah.

Alice (01:35:10):
Like she's been kidnapped by crazy people.
She's been like, what, Athena?

Ellen (01:35:18):
Yeah.

Alice (01:35:18):
Just like three weeks ago you hunted down a killer who could have
still been a killer on your own.

Ellen (01:35:26):
Yeah.
Yes.
I don't think you get to getacross with him for that.

Bex (01:35:31):
No.

Ellen (01:35:32):
But they do have very sweet moment where they, you know share a smooch.
We gotta I love you.
I love you too.

Alice (01:35:39):
Yeah.
"You will not get sick on me."

Bex (01:35:41):
Oh, the the, you will not get sick on me line.
I've gone Uhoh

Alice (01:35:46):
don't cross Athena.
Bobby, that's gotta be healthy.

Ellen (01:35:48):
Foreshadowing?

Bex (01:35:49):
Yeah.
The foreshadowing.

Alice (01:35:50):
Dunno what you're talking about.
Bobby agreed.
It's fine.
He's not gonna get sick on her deal.

Bex (01:35:57):
Yeah, Bobby agreed.

Alice (01:36:00):
Um, anyway,

Bex (01:36:02):
Ellen's seen the next episode.
She knows what happens.

Alice (01:36:06):
The audience haven't.

Bex (01:36:09):
Yes they have.
I don't think there is anybodywho was listening to this who
has not seen 9-1-1 before.
Actually, sound off in the comments.
If you are watching9-1-1 for the first time,

Ellen (01:36:19):
please tell us, um, so we can make sure we don't accidentally spoil you.

Bex (01:36:25):
Okay.
So we go from one loved up,married couple to another,
loved up, married couple, which.

Ellen (01:36:31):
They've been in traffic for three hours.

Bex (01:36:33):
It's a filler scene.
Yeah.
Like yeah, they're back from the spa.
They love each other.
Everything's back to normal.
Um, the end,

Alice (01:36:39):
they did just spend three hours in traffic, which undid the
three days of rest and relaxation.
I wonder what they did for the rest ofthe, like they went to dinner night one.
I guess they really did justrest and re relax the other tree.

Ellen (01:36:51):
Yeah.
It was a spa.
So maybe they had massage

Bex (01:36:54):
colonics?

Ellen (01:36:56):
Yeah.
Well, no, Hen didn't want that.
And Danny did the usual kid thingof emptying his bag onto his bed
rather than actually unpacking.
He just wants the dog

Alice (01:37:10):
pretty close.
Yeah.
Fair.
Same.

Bex (01:37:13):
I mean, in Denny's defense Hen did just say Unpack.
He unpacked.

Alice (01:37:17):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, Karen's magically healed.
From her,

Ellen (01:37:23):
her trauma,

Bex (01:37:24):
from her depression?

Alice (01:37:25):
Like her, her grief.
Yeah.

Bex (01:37:26):
Yes.

Alice (01:37:27):
And that's just where, um, and blames the hormones.
Yeah.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah.
Because, you know, women onlyhave feelings when it's hormones.
Um, hence says that she nevercared how many kids they had,
just that they had them together.
And oh, apparently Dennywas with his uncle.

(01:37:47):
I missed that.

Bex (01:37:49):
Well, I mean, they were there for three days.
I don't think theywould've, I know that Karen.
Oh, I figured that he would've

Alice (01:37:54):
been with someone, but I wondered if it was like
Karen's parents or something.

Bex (01:37:57):
I don't think Karen was leaving him on the couch with, you know,
a box of cereal for three days.
Although,

Alice (01:38:03):
again,

Bex (01:38:04):
again, apparently that's what she'd been doing before.
But three days might be pushing it.

Alice (01:38:08):
No, I just wondered if like he was with...,

Ellen (01:38:09):
she's not, not John Winchester,

Alice (01:38:11):
Karen's parents or something, but No.
Oh, but cereal and SpaghettiOs.

Ellen (01:38:18):
Yeah.

Bex (01:38:19):
But yeah.
Filler episode, apparentlyeveryone in the Wilson household
is fine or back to normal.
Great.

Ellen (01:38:26):
And go get the dog

Bex (01:38:28):
and we gotta go get Paisley.

Ellen (01:38:30):
Yep.
So they do still have the dog, whichthey acquired in like the first season.

Bex (01:38:37):
Second season it was from the earthquake.

Ellen (01:38:40):
Oh yeah, that's right.
Good continuity.

Alice (01:38:44):
They stole the dog from the dead person.

Ellen (01:38:46):
Yeah.
Um, so Bobby and Athena walk in thedoor and they're obviously having
a conversation on the way in, butwe only hear like the end of it.
And Athe as they walk in, Athena sayssomething like, "It is indeed." And
that's all we get of that conversation.
And I'm like, yeah, what did hesay something like, "it's good

(01:39:06):
to be home" or something first?
And then she said like,

Alice (01:39:09):
they cut it for time.
It was just a, just like, no.
Gotta have Dennycomplaining about his dog.
We've gotta cut the first half of

Ellen (01:39:16):
Yeah,

Alice (01:39:16):
that sentence.

Ellen (01:39:18):
But anyway, every, everyone's there.
Uh, well, everyone, includingMichael and the kids.
So they came over to make them dinner.

Bex (01:39:27):
Yeah.
Michael figured that he woulddrop the kids off and let
himself in and use their kitchen.
I don't know how I would feel ifI came home from a long day and my
ex-husband was in my kitchen cooking.

Ellen (01:39:41):
Yeah, yeah.
He's, yeah.
Very much still part of theirlittle family, isn't he?
He's like,

Alice (01:39:47):
I designed this damn house.
I designed this damn kitchen I'm using it.
His

Bex (01:39:50):
name is probably still on the, like the lease or the deed or whatever.
Yeah.

Ellen (01:39:57):
Maybe Bless him.
But anyway, I would be happy toget someone to cook me dinner
after a, that would be fine.

Bex (01:40:02):
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
I'd be very happy to come home andhave a home cooked meal after the day
I've just had, I don't know if I'd wantmy ex to be the one doing it though.

Alice (01:40:12):
Uh, to be fair, he's not Bobby's ex. He is Bobby's friend.
So.
Bobby's like, fuck yeah.
Dinner.

Ellen (01:40:16):
Do you mean he's not there for Athena?
He's there for Bobby.

Alice (01:40:20):
Yes.
They're besties now.

Ellen (01:40:21):
Right.

Alice (01:40:22):
Um, but anyway, the kids are quite worried about Bobby because the truck
driver was on the news and they saidthat he has lung damage and that he could
get cancer from being in the tunnel.
And Bobby sort of brushes 'em offand goes, oh, he wasn't wearing the
protective gear that firefighters wear,and he was in the tunnel a lot longer.
And I feel fine.

Bex (01:40:41):
They start talking about, um, the implications of the, um, the
truck crash and the discovery thatthe truck had cobalt 60 on board.
It's going to spark, forgive thepun, um, massive investigations and.
Bobby hopes that Ernest is ready forwhat's coming, um, and may pipes up.

(01:41:03):
Of course she does and says thatshe thinks that they're just gonna,
they're gonna like get this segue in.
She's like, "I think he's brave fortelling the truth and standing up
for what's right." And you can justsee her like very pointedly staring
at her mother as she says this.
If more people stood up for what's right,the world would be a better place, mum.
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
Do you hear me?

Alice (01:41:23):
You hear that mum.
Um, and then the oven timer, like,ha, serendipity, um, the oven timer is

Bex (01:41:31):
saved by the bell?

Alice (01:41:33):
Yep.
And, um, Michael'slike, oh, that's dinner.
I'm just gonna go dealwith that for 15 minutes.

Bex (01:41:40):
Bobby's like, "Great, I'm gonna go take a shower. You know, an actual shower,
not a hazmat shower," which just leavesAthena and May staring down at each other.

Alice (01:41:48):
Dunno where Harry got went, but away.

Bex (01:41:51):
I'm assuming Michael scruffed him and dragged him into the kitchen.
Yeah,

Alice (01:41:56):
she like grabbed him by the back of his t-shirt and was just
like, Nope, you're a camera with me.

Ellen (01:42:01):
I need help with the dinner.
So Athena, she does have a very, youknow, I guess mature reaction to, um,
to the, the essay thing, um, in that shedoesn't get cross with May for any of it.
She just says, she tellsMay that she read it.
Um, she's a police sergeant, notan officer, and it maybe, it seems

(01:42:26):
like it shouldn't mean much, but sheworked very hard for that title and
you know, she may says she, she canfix that and Athena's like, "Good.
Then it's all set to go out and theadmissions officers are going to
be very impressed with you." AndMay's just like, "you're not mad?"

Bex (01:42:43):
May's waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Ellen (01:42:45):
Yeah.
She's like, what do youmean it's good to go?
But, um, Athena does say that she's,you know, "You and I might not always
agree on the choices that we make, butI'm proud of what I do and I hope that
one day when you are my age, you'll beable to look at your daughter and say the
same thing. That's what I want for you."

Bex (01:43:07):
She gives me a hug, they say, tells her that she loves her.
May's like, "I love youtoo." Um, Athena disappears.
I don't know where she's going.
Maybe to get changed, maybe tohelp Bobby shower, who knows?
Um, and Michael comes up behind May,he's obviously realized that it's safe
to come out of the kitchen, um, andMay turns around and says, "I kind

(01:43:30):
of wish that she was just mad at me."
Like, I don't know how to handlemum being nice to me like this.

Ellen (01:43:37):
Yeah.
And Michael tells her, "Welcome tobeing a grownup," when no one says
what they mean and everyone, uh, yeah.
Oh, so we're at the end,we're at the end montage time,

Bex (01:43:52):
The end montage, where we try desperately to tie all of the
storylines together to the themeof the episode, which apparently
is fallout and not serendipity.

Ellen (01:44:02):
Mm-hmm.

Bex (01:44:04):
Yeah.
And we get hen doing the voiceover forthis one, and she tells us, uh, as I
think it must be the next day as Athenais getting the kids ready for school,
that life hits you head on sometimesand there is always going to be pain
and a fallout that comes with it.

Ellen (01:44:25):
Yeah.
She said it, she said the thing,

Alice (01:44:28):
she said the thing you guys,

Bex (01:44:30):
She said it and Eddie said it earlier.
And then Ernest, Ernest is about to say itbecause, um, we do get a cut of him doing
some kind of little press conference.
That Channel Lake News, um, isbroadcasting with the, uh the chiron,
um, "truck driver whistleblowersheds light on dangerous and

(01:44:51):
illegal nuclear waste transport".
And he says that, um, "Thanks to alot of brave souls, this city dodged
a bullet, but it ain't over. Peopleneed to know what happened. And today
the real fallout begins." That'swhat I mean, like the entire episode.
We really only get the episodetitle and the, the theme of fallout
shoved down our throats in likethe last 10 minutes of the episode.

Ellen (01:45:14):
Yeah.
And only really relating tothe, like, textually only
relating to the truck crash.

Alice (01:45:21):
Mm. I mean, I guess it's like the fallout of what happened to everyone.

Bex (01:45:29):
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, we, yeah,

Ellen (01:45:30):
it is, it definitely is.
But no one says the words,

Bex (01:45:34):
Thematically yes, but it's, you know, sometimes we get really subtle
themes, um, that just happened to, well,the storylines subtly reflect the theme.
Sometimes we get itshoved down our throats.
This time it was like,uh, really sort of subtle.
Really just thematic and, oh, no, no.
Wait, we're just gonna shove it downyour throat now right at the end.

Alice (01:45:56):
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
We forgot to shove it down your throat.
Yeah,

Bex (01:45:59):
we get a Olivia, um, we get cut to Olivia's live stream.
She's gone back to contentcreation where she says that,

Ellen (01:46:08):
oh, she's the, the most corny line ever.

Bex (01:46:11):
I used to have this hole inside me, but now after having
an actual hole, I feel whole,

Ellen (01:46:21):
oh, it's dreadful.

Bex (01:46:23):
I'm sorry.
Did that meteor go through the, like,the part of your brain that constructs
sentences because that was terrible.

Ellen (01:46:31):
I was hoping that they would show like, like that we would
find out what happened to her.
Like does she stillhave a hole through her?
The middle of her stomach?

Alice (01:46:39):
There's like comments popping up on like her livestream too, and there's
like people being like, show us the scar.

Bex (01:46:46):
Like what would they do in that instance?
Would they like take, would they like cutflesh and like her legs and other parts
of her body to like rebuild her abdomen?

Ellen (01:46:55):
I have no idea.
Like it depends which bits of her aremissing inside her abdomen, I guess.
Like is she missing part of her gut?
Like did... What did they have to sewtogether to make her function again?

Alice (01:47:07):
Like it's just like she probably lost a kidney.
'cause they thought that itwent through one of her kidneys.

Ellen (01:47:12):
Yeah.

Bex (01:47:13):
Which one do you have two of?
Your kidneys or your liver?

Ellen (01:47:15):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kidney.
Yeah.

Alice (01:47:16):
Kidney.
Yeah.

Bex (01:47:16):
Okay.
So she's probably so,

Alice (01:47:17):
but your liver, but your liver can re regrow.
So like, okay.
Yeah,

Ellen (01:47:24):
I don't know.
It's, I feel like it would bequite a while until she was
out of hospital for a start,

Bex (01:47:30):
but it can't be that far because it doesn't seem that it's
that long since it happened thatshe's back on the live stream.

Ellen (01:47:40):
Yeah.
Well, I mean, the events of that episodeonly take place over a few days, right?
Like it's not, yeah, I don't know

Bex (01:47:47):
timing.
Why me?
Let's, we just stick before that.

Ellen (01:47:50):
I mean, if Chim can heal from a, a rebar through the brain after like
four weeks or whatever it was, was, yeah.

Bex (01:47:57):
It okay.
Yeah.
Let's not get caught up on the time.
Um, speaking of time, we did get a littlebit of a timestamp because after Olivia's
live livestream, we cut back to Frank'soffice, um, where Maddie has shown up for
another appointment, even though she'snot meant to be there for another week.
And she tells Frank that she just reallyneeded to talk to him about how she

(01:48:21):
really felt about killing her husband.

Ellen (01:48:27):
Yeah, but we don't get to find out what that was yet.

Bex (01:48:30):
No, we don't get to hear that.
Uh, we're gonna go back to the Bathenahousehold, where as Hen tells us
that we can spend our days tryingto understand pain and we should.
That's how we heal.
Um, Athena is franticallyGoogling radiation poisoning.
Don't do it.
Don't, don't do it.

Ellen (01:48:48):
Oh, no, no.
Dr. Google is never good.

Bex (01:48:51):
No.
And we see Hen is back at work at the 118.
Oh, it's really cute.

Ellen (01:49:00):
Everyone hugs her.
Yeah.

Bex (01:49:01):
She walks out of the locker room and she gets like a group hug with
Eddie and Buck and Chim, and then Bobbywalks over and gives her a hug and then
the others just like stacks on them.

Ellen (01:49:13):
Yeah, they glom on.

Alice (01:49:16):
That's great.

Bex (01:49:18):
And Hen finishes her voiceover by saying that we must always remember
that it is not trauma that defines us.
It's how we choose to react,how we choose to move on.

Alice (01:49:28):
And then as Chim and hen head for the ambulance, because the
alarm's going off, um, Chim goesto like get in the driver's seat
and Hen goes, "Chim, I'll drive."

Ellen (01:49:41):
Yeah.
Her trauma is over.

Bex (01:49:42):
Yeah.
'cause it was inconvenientfor it to go any longer.
So she needed to get over it quicker.
And that's the end of the episode.

Ellen (01:49:50):
So the, at least this one's ending on a, on a upbeat note, yes.
We've had a few, we've had a few downersthe last few episodes, haven't we?

Bex (01:50:00):
We've got, it's positive.
It's uplifting the, thebands all back together.

Ellen (01:50:05):
Mm. Yay

Bex (01:50:07):
for now.

Ellen (01:50:09):
Yeah.
Like I said, this episode didn't, like,it wasn't, it didn't flow as well.
Nah.
As other ones have like.
Each, each, each of the scenes didn'treally relate to each other, so it
just, it was just like a shoved togetherbunch of different things that happened.

Bex (01:50:26):
Yeah.

Ellen (01:50:27):
Like in other episodes we have got those cool segues and like things of
joined together in different ways, but

Bex (01:50:33):
the, the clever, the clever writing where they've linked
each scene to the next one.
Yeah.
That it was lacking that.
And as we, as we said before, the, thetheme was kind of there and kind of not,
and then just got rammed down our throatsreally hard at the end of the episode
just to make sure we really got whatthe episode was supposed to be about.

(01:50:54):
Even though I'm not sure the episodeknew what it was supposed to be about.

Ellen (01:50:58):
Yeah.

Alice (01:50:59):
This one was very much a like, let's wrap it all up.

Bex (01:51:04):
Yeah.

Alice (01:51:05):
In a neat little package.

Bex (01:51:07):
We've had enough of trauma.
We need to move on.
Let's just end this part sothat we can move on and get
onto other parts of the story.
I think it's also because they, they goon, they do next week's episode, which
is the Christmas episode, and then theygo on like their, their winter hiatus.
So they needed to get everythingresolved so it wasn't dangling

(01:51:29):
over the next couple of months.

Ellen (01:51:31):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I forgot we were coming upto another Christmas episode.

Bex (01:51:35):
Yes.

Ellen (01:51:36):
Yeah.
So tell us about next week.

Bex (01:51:38):
Next week the holidays are more naughty than nice
for the first responders.

Ellen (01:51:42):
Ooh, that sounds exciting.

Bex (01:51:45):
The 118 responds to holiday themed incidents, including a shopper
pushed over the edge, a woman who isliterally having a blue Christmas and
a luggage handler accident on a tarmac.
Meanwhile, Maddie revisits herpast to embrace her future, and
Bobby receives some shocking news.

Alice (01:52:04):
I have zero memory of this episode at all.

Bex (01:52:06):
It's also missing possibly two other major storylines in that summary.
Because the triggers for this episodeincludes discussion of a brain tumor
slash cancer, discussions of domesticviolence and abuse and therapy, including
flashbacks, um, a parent threat, um,a child having to do CPR and PTSD.

(01:52:30):
Wow.
Any of that ringing a bell?

Alice (01:52:33):
Like I remember some parts of this episode, but I don't remember
the emergencies of this episode.

Bex (01:52:39):
I think I'm getting this episode confused with like the
next Christmas episode as well.
But that's okay.
I'll watch the episodeand I will be refreshed.

Alice (01:52:48):
That's it.
It's kind of nice sometimes when I watchepisodes I don't remember 'cause I'm
just like, oh, it's like a new episode.

Ellen (01:52:55):
Anything else we wanna say about this one though?

Alice (01:52:58):
No, I don't think so.
It was very much a like wrap everythingin a nice little package episode.

Bex (01:53:03):
Um, you will be interested to know this perhaps Ellen, that, Frank
is like the the fan fiction therapist.
Every Buddie Fanfic that I've read, ifsomebody is going to therapy, it's Frank.
It's always Frank.
Okay.
It's always Frank.

Ellen (01:53:21):
That makes sense.
Is Frank gonna come back and belike a regular therapist for them
or is this just this episode?

Bex (01:53:29):
He does come back.

Ellen (01:53:33):
Okay, good.

Bex (01:53:34):
Probably not as often as Fanfic would like to have you believe, I feel
like Buck and Eddie have way more therapyin Fanfic than they do in the show.

Alice (01:53:44):
Oh, absolutely.
I feel like it's like at the end of aMarvel movie when it just like blank
black screen and then white writingand it's just "Frank will return"

Bex (01:53:56):
in like 20 27.

Alice (01:53:58):
Yeah.

Ellen (01:54:00):
Um, well, if anyone else out there has any stories or tidbits to tell us,
let us know and tell us what you thoughtabout this episode, um, by leaving us a
comment in all of the places where youcan leave comments for us, um, Spotify,
YouTube, on our blog, all that stuff.
Uh, it's all at thatweewooshow.com or youcan, um, tell us on social media as well.

(01:54:26):
So thank you very much for listeningthis week, and we are gonna see you
next time to talk about episode 10,"Christmas Spirit." See you then.

Bex (01:54:34):
Bye

Alice (01:54:35):
Bye.

Ellen (01:54:36):
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Alice (01:55:14):
Um, fuck what happened in this episode.

Bex (01:55:18):
Bobby Hulks out.

Ellen (01:55:20):
Oh, I really wish.
Okay.
Someone write a fan fiction about that?

Alice (01:55:24):
About what?

Ellen (01:55:25):
Bobby hulking out.

Alice (01:55:27):
Oh, Bobby hulking... Yeah.
Right?

Ellen (01:55:30):
Oh, that would be so good.

Alice (01:55:33):
Oh my God.
I just took a drink of my waterand as I was putting the lid
on, the batch number is 1 9 118.

Ellen (01:55:40):
Oh!

Bex (01:55:41):
Oh, it's a sign.
I dunno what it means, but it's a sign.

Alice (01:55:45):
Serendipity, guys.