3.15: Eddie Begins

In this episode of That Weewoo Show, Ellen, Bex, and Alice discuss season 3, episode fifteen of 9-1-1, titled "Eddie Begins". Eddie's journey to rescue a boy from a well turns into a mission to save himself from his past.

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Episode Transcript

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9-1-1,
what's your emergency?
Welcome back to That Wee Woo Show,a podcast where we watch and discuss
episodes of the ABC show, 9-1-1.

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I'm Ellen.
I'm Alice.
And I'm Bex.
Thank you so much to everyone whohas been listening to our episodes
and we have to say a big like happyanniversary to that we were show
'cause it is our one year anniversarythis week, um, as we are recording.
It's like a week ago for everyone else,but you know, it's been a whole year.

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How amazing.
Yay!
We've been yapping for an entire year.
Yes.
Thank you.
Thank you both of you forcoming to do this with me.
Thank you for suggesting
it
What a lot of fun.
Ah, that's such a lot of fun.
Yes.
Thank you for making this a possibility.
Even though we may rip this show toshreds, we do love it quite a lot.

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A big lot.
And um, and we are verygrateful that everyone has been
listening for all this time.
And so we are gonna continueand talk about "Eddie Begins".
But before we get into that,um, Alice, you wanna remind
us what happened last time?
Yeah.
So last week on 9-1-1, the 9-1-1dispatch center was taken hostage.

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That that was it.
That, that was the whole episode.
Uh, none of that even matters because thisweek we're not gonna talk about it at all.
That's true.
That is very true.
It completely disregard everything there,
there are no repercussions.
That's true.
'cause this episode like couldbe a complete encapsulation.
Like you could put it prettymuch anywhere in this season.

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Right?
It doesn't have to comebefore or after anything.
Yeah.
So we did talk a little bit lasttime about how like Eddie isn't in it
and it's possible it's because he was, he,
he wasn't in the last one,
he wasn't in "The Takingof Dispatch 9-1-1".
Yeah.
He wasn't in, um, "The Taking ofDispatch 9-1-1" and it's Yeah.

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Possible that he was off filminghis extra scenes for this.
Mm-hmm.
So the summary, the a, the officialpromotional summary for this episode
says that Eddie's rescue mission turnsinto a fight for his life when his
journey to rescue a boy from a wellturns into a mission to save himself from

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his past in an all new "Eddie Begins".
So it's another one ofthe begins episodes.
I guess we should probably quicklygo through the triggers because this
is quite a, as Ellen has discovered,quite a traumatizing episode.
Um.
Yes.
To go into blind.

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Yeah.
We're gonna have to put some big kind oftrauma warnings on the front of this one.
'cause I was, I watched this wholeepisode just having a panic attack.
It was like, oh my god, this is awful.
Uh, so triggers are discussionof cancer claustrophobia,
specifically being buried alive.

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Uh, child at threat, uh, threat ofdrowning gun violence and injury.
Helicopter crash.
These are not in order.
'cause I've just realizedthey're completely out of order.
Hypothermia, uh, referencesto post-traumatic stress
disorder and images of war.
It's, it's an incredibly tense episode.

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And I hadn't realized before I went inthat it was gonna be like, you know, a
child at threat and, being, uh, in dangerof being buried alive and all that stuff.
That, that is just like, I don'tknow, a big trauma, like a big,
um, I guess trigger for me.
I don't know.

(03:56):
I, I just watched it...
no, I'm the same.
...between my fingers.
I couldn't, I couldn't,
I don't enjoy childrenbeing put at threat.
I think with 9-1-1, however, there isthat little safety net of, to date,
they have not had a child die as partof an emergency or rescue gone wrong.

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Yeah,
they have in flashbacks for, inLone Star, however, I Oh, and
flashbacks in for Bobby's kids.
We've had Flash, that's it.
We've had flashbacks where we've knownthe child is dead, but then we've gone
back and we've seen them alive and yeah.
But we've never had an instance wherewe meet the child, we get connected
to the child, and then the child dies.

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So I'm really hoping that however elsethis season goes in, its, this show
goes in its next couple of seasonsthat they always stick to that.
But in this episode, we do switchbetween flashing back to Eddie's past
and the, and a present emergency likewe did with, uh, other Begins episodes.

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But interestingly enough, I thinkthis one sort of thematically and
structurally is the same as "ChimneyBegins" in that Chimney has, you know,
been bleeding out on the steps ofMaddie's apartment building for four
months while you were off campingand flashes back, um, to, to, um, to,

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I'm never gonna live that one down, am I?
No, no.
Poor Chimney.
It's okay because he has ablood kink, so he's good.
Oh, good Lord.
I'm, I am not gonna be able to look atthat hashtag again in the same way um.
But where we had Chim sort offlashing back, but we saw his
progression as to how he became afirefighter as he was flashing back.

(05:51):
Um, Eddie, we don't really get the,this is how Eddie became a firefighter
because the reference to him being afirefighter was, "I applied for jobs
in Chicago and LA" and that was it.
Yeah.
It's more flashing back to
to trauma?
To Pretty much to trauma.

(06:12):
Pretty much.
And then, and then Eddie using thattrauma to get himself out of the traumatic
situation that he found himself in.
So, sim same, same, but different.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, we're, okay, so we we'restarting with a flashback.
We are starting with a flashback.

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Chris is being born.
We've got Shannon back again thisepisode, justice for Shannon.
Um, poor Shannon.
Shannon deserved so much better.
She's, uh, she's like,you know, in active labor.
Eddie is doing that useless husbandthing and just hovering, looking

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like he doesn't know what's going on.
She gives birth.
And once again, actually you've got in thenotes here, you say to, she gives birth to
the biggest, oldest newborn in the world.
And I was like,
oh my God.
He's huge,
I was watching it going, this is thepoint where all the moms go that is not a
newborn, but yes, it is a beautiful baby.
Just He's a beautiful baby.
It's not a newborn baby.

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No, no.
And he is not crying likea newborn, it sounds like.
No, he is at least a month old.
But anyway,
he's already lodginghis taxes at this point.
There is this cute little momentwhere the, the, the doctor's trying
to involve Eddie in the, in the birth,and they ask if he wants to cut the

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umbilical cord and he freaks out.
His voice hits like several octaveshigher than it normally should.
And Shannon finds it hilariousthat, you know, he's a combat medic
who's done God knows what on, in,you know, in the fields of war.
Yet he's freaking out about the ideaof cutting his son's umbilical cord.
Yeah.
Which is literally just, they'regonna hand him the scissors.

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They've already clamped it, they'regonna hold it steady for him.
He just has to do one snip.
I've cut several umbilical cords,but they've all been puppies, so it
doesn't really count I don't think,
Aw.
Um, so Eddie's parents are there.
Oh, this is a bit later.
Sorry.
There.
She, they're not there at birth.
I just realized how that sounded.

(08:18):
Oh, 100%.
I bet Helena wanted to be there.
I can imagine her beingin the waiting room.
Yeah.
I'm surprised that sh I'msurprised that, um, Helena wasn't
there to catch Chris, honestly.
Yeah.
Um, so yes, we flash a little bit laterwhen it's visiting hours and Shannon's
been cleaned up a little bit and Chrishas been cleaned up a little bit.

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Um, and they're still talk andEddie's still talking about, you know,
he had to cut the umbilical cord.
Um, and he turns to his father and askshis dad, "why didn't you warn me about
the umbilical cord?" And I would like tobless whoever did the captions for this
episode because Eddie asks his, his fatherin Spanish, and the person who did the

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captions actually captioned the Spanish.
So we know what he said.
Yeah, I think it's because it's animportant part of the conversation.
But yeah, it was nice that itwasn't just "speaks in Spanish",
I would say that anytime anycharacter is speaking another
language on screen is important.
Oh yeah, absolutely.

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Any, anytime.
I don't care if it's just, you know,Tia Pepa mumbling in the corner.
I wanna know what she's mumbling.
Yeah, it's 'cause she's mumbling,"Oh my God. Eddie and Buck
are so..." Er, so anyway, um,
I mean it just putting, just putting,putting speak Spanish is is pretty lazy.
Like, so lazy.
But this time we do get,um, the actual Spanish.

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That's great.
Um, so yeah, we find out that Ramondidn't warn Eddie because he wasn't there.
He was away when Eddie was born.
Uh, he was away whenEddie's sister was born.
And then the, the last one wasan emergency C-section and so
he wasn't there for that either.

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Which, interestingly enough, makesEddie the eldest of the Diaz siblings.
I, he always gave me youngest energy
and I still, I was, I stillmaintain that he is the youngest.
But no, if you go by the way, Helenais talking where she's saying that.
Yeah.
Well she won't, she might betalking about it out of order.

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I don't know.
I feel like you can, it, it makessense if Eddie is the eldest, he
just gives off like baby energy, likeyoungest, youngest brother energy.
Yeah.
There are moments later in theseries where they sort of allude
to him being the eldest as well.
So it makes sense that based onthat information, if she's going

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a chronological order like youwere born and then Sophia was
born and then Adriana was born.
Um.
Mm-hmm.
But yeah, I don't, I don't buy it.
He's, he's so like baby brother sometimes.
Uh, but Ramon says that he might nothave been there for the labor, but he's
there for the, uh, the good part, whichis the, like the taking the cleaned up

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sleeping baby and snuggling with it.
And snuggle.
You're cuddling them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Aw, which is the good part, to be honest.
Um, so yeah, while they're likegooing over Chris, then Shannon's mom
arrives, who we haven't met before,
and she says she like, you know, they'reall surprised to see her and she's like,

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"Yeah, I couldn't get here fast enough.Like, I, I wouldn't miss this," you know?
And Eddie's mom asks her how she'sfeeling and she said She's got a clean
bill of health and a new set of boobs.
And
Helena's like, they look great.

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She's trying to be polite, butshe's so fucking judgmental.
Yeah.
And it just goes straightover Janet's head.
She's just like, "Great, thankyou. Call me hot granny."
Yeah.
Um, this is where we find outthat yes, this is Christopher.
'cause they announce his name, Shannon'smom gets to hold him and then asks

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how long Eddie's gonna be there.
And he's back to Afghanistan next week,so he's only having a couple days.
Yeah.
I mean, I, I, I was gonna say,Shannon gets in like all of the
eye rolls in this episode, but sheabsolutely deserves to because he's
only gonna be there for like, hardlyany time before he disappears again.

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Yeah.
To be fair, she's probably very luckythat they managed to get him back
in time for the birth to begin with.
Yep.
'cause extraction, especiallyif he's in like active war zone
extraction would be very difficult.
Um, but it's, but yeah, his excuse is thatthe sooner he goes, the sooner he finishes
his tour and come back home for good.

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And to that end, Shannon giveshim a jewelry box with a silver
medallion that has a sink.
Christopher, um, etched on it, whichshe says is, uh, St. Christopher is
the patron saint of Travelers andshe says the medallion is to protect

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him and keep him safe and remind himthat he has a family to come home to.
Yeah.
And Eddie says that he, he loves them bothand no matter what happens, he's always
gonna fight to come home to his family.
That's a very important linefor the rest of the episode.
Uh, 'cause we immediatelycut to rushing water.
Falling mud, thunder, lightningand Eddie's unconscious

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and underground.
Yeah.
And he manages to find a radio and yell,like, you know, speaks into it and says,
"Can anyone hear me? I'm alive downhere." So all of this before the title
card, setting it up for what's to come.

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All right.
So we're going to the station,like to the 118 station house.
Yes.
Where Bobby is doing aradio check with everyone.
I forgot that this, thisscene was in this episode.
It's such, because I've seen it somany times and I couldn't, like I
had no idea which episode it was in.
Yeah.

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And so I was already laughing.
I I was starting to sort to laughat it 'cause I knew what was coming.
But then the, the idea that youwent from Eddie on the radio
begging for someone to answer himto tell it because he's still alive.
And then the very next line ofdialogue is "Firefighter Diaz, do

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you copy?" Bobby it back to him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The, um, segues in this are great
Yes.
Uh, big, big props to, um, ChristopherMonfette and Robert Williams who were the.
They wrote the story,they co-wrote the story.
Christopher Monfette wrote the tele playand then Robert directed the episode.

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So very good work guys.
Yep.
So yeah, radio checks.
Eddie's radio works.
Yep.
"Five by five, Cap, over."
So Chimney's radio is working and healso checks in for Hen, which isn't
really the point because the whole pointis ch Hen needs to check her radio, um,

(15:48):
because her hands are full with coffee.
Um,
yeah, Chimney's like "I can alreadytell, screwed up my coffee,"
but before we get into Chimney's,absolutely insane coffee order,
she's only got four cups there.
So who is getting coffeeand who is missing out?
Yeah,
well there are a lot morethan four firefighters too.

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So,
but even, even if you discount that, evenif you discount all of the background
firefighters, she's only got four coffees.
So there's one for Chim, I'massuming she got one for herself.
But then you've got Bobby, Eddie and Buck.
So who's not getting a coffee?
I don't think we ever find out.
No, I don't thinkanybody thought about it.

(16:31):
They just thought, oh, wouldn't itbe funny if Hen comes in from doing
and why is hen doing the coffee?
Don't they have a probie togo and do the coffee run?
I know, right?
Apparently not.
Well for the, for the like, youknow, screenplay they needed her
to be holding some coffee so thatshe couldn't speak into that.
No, I know, but just no one, no,I'm, I do the logical thinking.

(16:54):
I'm the one counting the coffee cupsgoing, wait, this does not make sense.
But no, nobody else did.
They just thought, let's, let'ssend Hen on a coffee run and have
chi have the most insane coffeeoutside of peppermint lattes.
Peppermint mocha.
Um, no, it sounds pretty good.
Like cinnamon, coconut, macchiato,quad shot, half pump of vanilla?

(17:21):
I don't know.
I try it, it sounds pretty strong.
Quad shot.
That's, that's kind of nuts.
Quad shot.
Yeah,
you'd be up night.
What's a macchiato?
Yeah, what's a macchiato?
And like I don't drink coffee'cause I'm intolerant to caffeine.
Um,
okay.
I'm gonna have to look it up.
I'm pretty, it's just a typethe way you make it, right?
Like with the amount of milk,

(17:41):
it's an espresso.
It's a espresso topped with a smallamount of steam or foamed milk.
So what's the fuck the differencebetween a macchiato and a latte?
Well, latte has got a lot of milk in it.
And thei as a quad shot,four shots of coffee?
Yeah.
Jesus Christ.
I mean, your usual, your usual like flatwhite or whatever has two shots anyway.

(18:05):
So four shots is just a, a double.
A double double.
Yeah, it just says herea small amount of milk.
So I don't know.
Oh, here you go.
There's, here's a diagram.
Did you find the diagram?
No, I'm on Nescafe, which I, Idon't, I don't think he's necessarily
the best source for good coffee.

(18:27):
Uh, but they say that a macchiato istwo parts espresso to one part milk.
Cappuccino has the most milk,
whereas, yes.
Well it looks like the macchiato issupposed to be served in an espresso
cup, so you can only, once you put theshot in, you only put enough milk in
to fill up the espresso cup, whereasthe latte is in like an actual cup.

(18:50):
There you go.
I thought that was called apiccolo, but apparently I am wrong
Piccolo doesn't have milk.
So what's the differencebetween a piccolo and espresso?
I thought that was just es espresso.
If it didn't have milk in it.
Oh my god.
I can't believe we're tangenting about
If anyone listening is a barista...Welcome to That Wee Woo Coffee.

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Uh, where we talk about No.
Okay.
No.
Oh no.
That says piccolo latte.
No.
Apparently piccolo has milk.
Yeah,
but it's steamed milk?
Who the fuck knows?
See, even when, becauseI actually like coffee.
I live in Melbourne, so I do getostracized for not having a coffee.

(19:36):
Um, so I'll have a decaf, buteven then I just have a decaf cap,
occasionally a decaf caramel cap.
This, um, "Australian coffee menuexplained" website has excellent diagrams.
Apparently the piccolo is theAustralian version of the macchiato.

(19:57):
Oh, okay.
Well this, the Australian coffeemenu doesn't even say piccolo.
It doesn't even have it.
It's just got macchiato.
No, it does have,
I'm on Reddit, milk coffee.
Reddit knows all.
Piccolo is there too.
Regardless if, if he's having apiccolo slash a macchiato, why?

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Can you imagine the amount of milk?
Or like, is that She handshim like a grande cup?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, she, he is got four shots in it, so
is it like, yeah, but still thatwouldn't be enough to, I can't
believe we've spent all this timeon like a throwaway reference.

(20:38):
So based on the, this linkthat Ellen just shared,
which we will share for you guys as well.
Well, instead of having milk in it,they literally just put the foam on
top, so it's just a teaspoon of hotsteamed milk and a dollop of foam.
Whereas a piccolo is...
So hang on.
If.
If it's got, if it's a coconut one,does that mean it's got coconut milk

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in it, or is it just coconut flavor?
Or is it just coconut flavor?
And then I can't tell the differencebetween a piccolo latte and a flat white.
Maybe we need someone who worksat Starbucks to understand
No, no, we don't need somebodywho works in Starbucks.
We need someone from Australiawho, who knows these.
Oh, okay.

(21:22):
although, yes.
If you're talking about why it wouldbe a cinnamon, coconut macchiato,
then yeah, maybe we do need aStarbucks person because Yeah.
Fun fact for our American listeners,we don't do flavored coffees over here.
You just get coffee.
Yeah, you can get flavored coffee.
Yeah, but you can get like hazelnutor caramel or vanilla or peppermint.

(21:42):
You don't get like a, yeah,
I'll add caramel or hazelnut,but it's not like a fancy thing.
Also, interestingly enough, the, eventhough it's Starbucks in Australia, it's
Australian coffee, so it tastes and is,it is different from American Starbucks.
Oh my God.

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Tangenting over coffee.
Yeah, let's, let's move away from thiscoffee snobbery, Aussie coffee snobbery.
Anyway, they, they forget.
They forgot Chim's cinnamon.
There's no cinnamon.
There's no cinnamon.
He does have, did they forget ordid, just did coconut and vanilla.
Bobby asks Buck to sound off and Buck justcalls down from the, from up in the loft.

(22:28):
Literally just yells from up in the loft.
We got
visitors and Bobby's like Buck thewhole point is to say it into the,
into the radio and Buck, which then
he immediately just picks uphis radio and goes, "We have
visitors, Cap," into the radio.
And then he, he waits a beat andthen goes, "Hey, did I pass?"

(22:53):
I mean,
bless his little self.
I guess you, even your, yourradio did work eventually
once you remember to use it.
Um, but yes, the 118 do have visitors.
Um, Christopher and Carla havecome, not so much to visit.
I dunno why he's here.

(23:14):
I don't know why he's here.
I don't know why they need it.
Like, I know it's for the drama,but surely this could have been an
at home after work conversation.
They didn't need to come into thefirehouse for this conversation.
Oh, they absolutely didn't.
It seemed like they were like drivingto school and Chris was like, "I wanna
see Dad," and Carla was like, "Sure.

(23:34):
Okay."
Or like after school or something.
'cause Chris is in his uniform.
It's before because it's likethe tense is he's supposed to
tell Ms. Florence it's what he ispreventing to show and tell on Friday
today.
So they needs to go to school anyway.
Um, so yes, show and tell andapparently the hamster, apparently

(23:59):
Chris has a hamster, um,
A new hamster
is so, so passe, God knows whathappened to the old hamster.
But this new one is so passe, hedoesn't wanna take it to school.
He's been rifling through Eddie'sthings and found his silver star.
Did you know that Eddie has a silver star?
Eddie has a silver star?

(24:19):
Eddie would never do anything illegal.
Has a Eddie has silver star.
Yes,
I know this is a referenceto something that...
Besides the illegal fight club
happens in the future,
um, besides that illegal fight club, uh,Eddie would never do anything illegal.
'cause Eddie has a silver star.
Exactly
right.
Well, when he looks at theSilver Star, he has flashbacks.

(24:41):
So maybe it's not such a great thing.
Um, he,
but it's not just that he wants to takethe Silver Star in, he wants to take the
Silver Star and its recipient, and hewants, he wants Eddie to tell the class
what he did to get his Silver Star.
Hang on, hang on.
Can we, like, can we talkabout the cutest part?

(25:02):
So like Buck just appears and
Oh, yeah.
Because Buck is justirresistibly drawn to his family.
Whenever they're, they're around,
he's like, oh, my kid's here.
Um, and Buck's like, "Oh, do you everjust wear it?" And Eddie's go like,
clearly his go-to line is "neverfound an outfit to go with it."

(25:22):
And Buck goes, "if I had amedal, I'd never take it off."
And Eddie just goes, we know,
but yeah.
So Chris wants to take the medal and Eddieto school, um, and Buck's, "like is that
a story you can tell fourth graders?"And Eddie's like, "uh, no." Um, but yeah,

(25:43):
so he promises he is coming to schoolwith Chris on Friday morning to tell
appropriate for fourth grader war stories.
Um, very important that he'spromised that Friday morning
he's coming to show and tell.
Yes.
Okay.
You promise?
Promises.
Yes, I promise

(26:04):
He promises.
Yes.
And 'cause he has a silver star,
he would never break a promise
and he'd never do anything illegal.
I look forward to finding out what itis, the future that you're talking about.
Uh, it may be some time in the future.
Well, right now the 118 areoff on an emergency call.

(26:27):
Um, we get stock footage of the enginetruck and the ambulance down the
interstate lights and sirens going.
At some point, the ladder truck joinsthem and they pull up to a, a farm.
Um, I look, I don't know anythingabout LA or um, like how big it is
or what like the, the environs arelike, but I'm pretty sure that that

(26:51):
amount of land and that kind of farmwould not be sort of within the city.
You don't think it's next to thebeach that they go to regularly?
I, I just, I wonder, like, I know thateach firehouse has its own kind of area
that that's the area that it manages.
How the fucking big is the 118's area?

(27:16):
It's the whole, it's the entirestate of California at this point.
Like why,
why, why do they have other firehouses?
Because apparently the 118just gets sent everywhere.
Yeah.
Like they, they even get sentto Texas at one point, so
like, let's just not question
Texas.
The the Texas one isa special, is special.
We, we get the Texas one, Imean, the Texas one is kind of

(27:38):
the equivalent of our, you know,Victorian fireys getting flown over.
So, you know, I'll let that one slide.
I just don't see how an inner, whichwhat I'm assuming is an inner city
firehouse is out on fucking farmland.
Yeah, you're right.
It doesn't make much sense.
No, but they're out here andfunnily enough, so is Athena.

(28:01):
So how the hell is she out there as well?
Yeah.
And how did she beat them there?
She just wanted to go tell, tellBobby about how nice the farm is.
Yeah.
The farm must just benear the city somehow.
Who knows?
But there is a missing child.
Oh, sure.
Let's talk about the actual story.
Yeah.
There's a missing kid.

(28:21):
Is
there a story?
Um, they're, they're all spread outacross the field calling out for Hayden.
Who is the kid who's missing?
Yes.
Um, apparently they, they think itcould be an abduction, but they're gonna
look for him anyway around the place.
Yeah.
Athena thought that initially it wasa child abduction, but then she saw

(28:44):
an old photo of the farm way backwhen, where there was an old windmill.
Which I'm guessing like I would seewindmill and just assume like windmill,
but apparently windmill means itpowered something and it was probably
powering a well, I don't know, butthey go from, there's a windmill to,
there must be a, well, somewhere onthe property and the kids probably

(29:07):
fallen down the well, oh, there we go.
Athena says it used to power a waterpump, which means that therefore
there must have been a well,
um, they're all looking around.
But Eddie is the one who spies.
He does some like, you know, mastertracking work kind of thing and
sees like a footprint and the, uh,like he clears some junk away and

(29:28):
there's like a hole in the ground.
So he's found the well, or he'sfound a well or a pipe of some sort.
I don't understand why there wasjunk over the top of the hole.
Like over the pipe.
Like did
the kid, kid, like howdid Hayden get down?
Grab a whole bunch of, there it, yeah.
Did the kid grab a whole bunchof junk while he was falling?
I don't understand.

(29:49):
I don't know.
No,
it's for the drama of havingEddie lift all of the stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's really narrow pipe.
Like, ugh.
No, it's just this wholescene is just so horrible.
Uh, they look down,they can't see anything.
It's too dark.

(30:10):
Even when they shine lightsdown there, can't see anything.
So they, they get like a camera andlike on the end of a cable and feed
it down there and they go all the waydown to 40 feet down and they find him.
He's like fallen 40 feetdown this, well, oh my god.
The poor kid.

(30:32):
I'm just looking at, uh, how many meters?
40 feet is 12 meters.
This is another ripped fromthe headlines storyline.
Oh no, really?
So a for not quite this bad,but yeah, there, um, it happened
in the late eighties in Texas.

(30:55):
Um, she was known as baby Jessica.
She was 18 months old and she fell downand abandoned well on her aunt's property.
Um, if you are looking uphow long and things are, um,
the shaft was only 18 inches.
Sorry, eight inches.
It's only eight.

(31:15):
Only eight inches wide.
And that's what she fell down.
Oh my god.
How the fuck,
she's only 18 months old.
She must have been pretty tiny.
Yeah.
Jesus Christ.
But.
I guess it was better than this scenariothat happens in the episode because
the, the well that she fell down,the, the pipe that she fell down, it

(31:37):
had a sharp bend about 20 feet down.
And so she got stuck in the bend.
So she wasn't going anywhere.
There was no risk of her slippingdown further like there is
with Hayden in this episode.
Um, but it took them overtwo days to get her out.
Oh.
Oh my God.

(31:58):
Oh my God.
They did, they did the same thingthat they did in this episode.
They drilled, um, a paralleltunnel and then they drilled
through the rock to get to her.
Um, but yeah, 56 hours she was downin that, um, down in that pipe.
And apparently she was fine becausethey, they lowered a microphone down

(32:18):
to figure out where she was and theycould hear her singing to herself.
Aw.
Oh,
and they got her back out after 56 hours.
She had some, um, like scratches,obviously some serious head injuries.
'cause they were worried that she mightneed plastic surgery later to fix it.
Um, probably the most serious injurywas, I don't know how it happened,

(32:41):
but, um, when she was trappeddown in the, the shaft, one of her
legs was like up above her head.
Oh.
So her foot ended up developing gangrene.
So they had to excise some ofthe the flesh from her foot.
Oh my God.
That was the, that was the worstthing that happened to her.

(33:02):
And she's, she's still alivetoday and, and perfectly fine.
She's in her thirties now.
Wow.
But yeah, that's thestory of baby Jessica.
It's not quite as bad as, as, as Hayden.
'cause Hayden, we've got the, theconstantly the threat that he's gonna
keep slipping down further and further.

(33:22):
'cause it's nothing tostop him and the rain.
So the threat of drowning,
oh God, it's horrible.
But he makes it, he makes it.
He's, he's okay in the end.
Okay.
Just to, just to make sure everyoneknows that when we are going in,
yes, we did say that 9-1-1didn't has not killed a kid yet.
Oh,

(33:43):
well, I was pretty terrifiedthrough most of this.
So they, you know, they find himand they, they get Hayden's mom
and she's like, you know, cryingand saying, oh my baby, he's alive.
Oh.
And I'm just alreadyin tears at this point.
Um,
they're trying to work so it'snighttime in the next scene.

(34:05):
Um, they're trying to workout how they're gonna, how the
hell they're gonna get him out.
They can't pull him out from above.
They think there could be somedrainage tunnels, but they don't really
know how they're gonna get him out.
Yeah.
The system predates the maps,
so they decide.
Bobby has a light bulb moment and decidesthat they're gonna have to dig him out

(34:28):
and like you said, just before, they'regoing to get this massive drill rig.
I don't know, it's like humongous thing.
Set up a big drill, um, dig a paralleltunnel wider so that a human can,
like an adult can get down thereand, um, dig across to him and
hopefully pull him out that way.

(34:50):
And Buck is questioning thedigging across by hand part.
So like, "It feels like that's a longway when you're 40 something feet down,"
but they can't get you close to the pipebecause they don't want it to collapse.
Yeah, I can imagine that if you're tryingto drill too close to the whole, the,

(35:10):
the vibrations and just the structuralintegrity is going to be quite dicey.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I'm gonna reveal my stupidity here.
And I assumed that the, the pipe thatHayden was sitting in kind of went
all the way down and then whoeverhad to go down and punch across was
then going to have to go throughthe pipe as well to get to Hayden.

(35:33):
I, I don't know, it's a difficult kindof a, a thing 'cause like you dig across
to where the pipe is and then cut,but they don't really have any idea of
where they are in relation to Hayden.
So.
So they could cut the pipe.
I think that worked.
And then he would be way furtherdown than you could reach still.
Like, well, no, but I thinkthey've got the cables.
No, they know that he's, they'vegot the cable and they've been

(35:55):
Mark, they've been marking off howmuch cable they've lowered down.
So then they would just go, okay, Eddie.
'cause Eddie is the one who volunteersto go down because uh, he has to.
'cause even though it makes more senseto send Chim down, because Chim is,
you know, physically smaller, it'snot, Chimney Begins, it's Eddie Begins.
So Eddie is the one that has to go down.
Um, so they would just lower Eddieto match where they, where Hayden is.

(36:20):
But then you've got the issue that he'slike slipping further and further down.
'cause you know, he's got nothingunder his feet to hold him up.
Yeah.
And you've gotta like cut a big enoughhole in the side of the pipe that they
can actually pull him through it as well.
On a, on a Yeah.
You know, angle.
It's not, not an easy prospect.

(36:40):
I think it's, it's, again, it's, I,it's one of these episodes where we
have to just let it go for the dramabecause if we start thinking about how
it's gonna work in reality it's, we'rejust gonna, it's gonna fall apart.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway, um,
anyway,
back to the episode.
Um, Athena gets called away, but isleaving officers behind for crowd control

(37:05):
and Bobby's like, "Oh, what crowd?"
Um, yeah.
So the news are everywhere, likethere's press absolutely everywhere.
Um, although the first onewe see is Channel Eight.
'cause you know, Channel Eight is thenews, the official news of, of the 118.
Of the 118.
It's not, it's not Taylor though.
Oh,
no.
She does the morning news.

(37:26):
It's fine.
But yeah, so those, and theseare just the local stations.
So if the story hits nationwide,there's gonna be a lot more media.
But yeah, this is where we get likethe thunder claps and everything, and
they go into the Channel eight news.
Who's not Taylor KellyTalking about the weather.

(37:47):
Yes, there is a weather system moving in.
It was supposed to go out tosea, but now it's moving inwards.
Um, bringing with it torrential rainsand gusty winds and an electrical
storm just for shits and giggles.
Yeah, just for fun.
Yay.
The, but finally now I don't know howmuch, how many hours have gone past, but

(38:09):
the, the, the drill rig is ready to go.
So Chim says, uh, well,Bobby's asking Chim, um, "How,
how's he doing down there?"
And Chim's like, "Hasn't movedin a while. He might've fallen
asleep." It's like, oh my God.
Do you think he would fall asleep?
I mean, I guess if hecouldn't move, could've been.
My stress response is to fall asleep, so.

(38:29):
Oh, I God.
Yeah.
Look, if he's little,he's probably exhausted.
Then you have the adrenaline crash.
Um.
Yeah, he probably could fall asleep, whichI think would probably be the worst thing.
'cause then his body would relax.
Yeah.
Then he'd be all...
And he'd slide further down the pipe.
Yeah.
That's what I would have thought,anyway, uh, let's not worry about that.
Um, he doesn't do that.
He's,
but he's not asleep.
He's not asleep because they send,they send out a radio just to be able

(38:54):
to, um, not for him to talk back tothem, but for them to talk to him
and let him know what's gonna go on.
'cause I can imagine that if you'restuck down on a pipe and then all
of a sudden drilling starts, thatwould scare the hell out of you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So they all shut off their radios so thatthey can get the signal down 40 feet.

(39:16):
And Hayden's mom talks to himand she's like, "can you hear me?
Hayden? Hayden, please look up."
And then they see Haydenlooking up and, oh, it's so sad.
Um,
oh my God.
This is where I started crying.
Oh.
Because he's like, "Mom!"
Because he looks like he, they're,they're trying to talk to him and

(39:38):
they're moving the radio up like a tinybit at a time to try and get signal.
And then he finally looks up and thenjust screams mom and like, oh my God.
And then like, even the mom islike, "I'm sorry, I can't do this."
Yeah.
The mom's like freaking out big time.
Um, so she starts crying, butEddie steps forward and he's like,

(40:00):
"Hey Hayden, my name's Eddie.
I'm a firefighter.
I'm here with your mother and awhole lot of other people and we're
working to get you outta there.
Um, so just stay calm.
It might get a little noisy.
Don't be scared.
We'll be there soon."The mom thanks Eddie.
And Eddie's like, no thank us.
Later when we give you back your son
and then it starts raining.
I'm pretty sure I didn't even hear anyof that when I was watching the episode.
'cause I was too busy cryingover this poor kid who's not even

(40:21):
trapped in a pipe in real life.
But I was just like, ohmy God, this poor kid.
He's like so little and he's juststuck and he looks so scared.
He does
10 outta 10 actor.
Yes.
They, they need to divert rainwater away, which is a good idea.
'cause it does start pouring with rain.
I'm surprised they haven'tdone that beforehand,

(40:43):
right?
Yeah.
Um, they Buck reckons there's anotherhour before they're at the right
level with the, with the drilling.
But the rain is gonna slow us down.
I don't know why the rain'sgonna slow us down, but, okay.
Buck,
I'm gonna assume that the, the rainwater's gonna get into the trench,
which is going to turn the soilinto mud, which the drill is just

(41:07):
not gonna be able to chew through.
It's just gonna like, like you wanna geta tire in mud, it just spins on the spot
and can't actually get any traction.
That's my, like, professionaldrilling advi... Thinking.
But if they're, if, uh, let's, let'snot go to the actual business of it.
Yeah,
no, I know.
We're not professional drillers.

(41:29):
We don't even play them on tv.
They're arguing about how they'rerunning out of time because he's going
to get hypothermia, you know, blah blah.
So they're gonna
Yeah, poor kid's been downthere 10 hours already.
But the main issue is thatthere's a lightning storm
coming and the drill operators,
I have no idea who this guy is,

(41:50):
but yeah, he's some sort of drill person.
Um, official driller, uh, is like,"it's, um, hardly even a mile
away. We've gotta pull the plug."
They have to pull the plug because thecrane rig is a five story lightning
rod in the middle of an empty field.
So if the, if the storm hits themand lightning decides to strike

(42:12):
in that area, the only placeit's gonna go is into the crane.
Into the drill truck.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which is not a great idea.
Anyone else getting, um,
which is for foreshadowing?
Yeah.
Anyone else gettingpanicked about lightning?
Bex?
I just, nah,

(42:34):
I, I do know about that one anyway.
Um, we, let's not go there.
Oh.
Um, we, uh, Eddie, so they, theysay, okay, we'll we'll pull up
and we'll have to go down with,at the level that it's at now.
We can't go any further.
Let's, let's go ahead.
So.
Eddie says that he is gonnago down there because he's the

(42:56):
one that was talking to Hayden.
So he knows his voice and he's nottaking any, you know, argument about it.
He's going,
but once again, Eddie, check your shoulderwidth compared to Chim's shoulder width.
It would make much moresense to send Chim in

(43:17):
because like, just to sort oflike flash forward to when they
actually do get said child.
Um, Chim has the kid strappedto his chest as he lifts him
out of the um, the new tunnel.
How the hell was Eddie gonna fithimself and the kid in that tunnel?
Yeah.
Who the fuck knows?

(43:38):
Anyway, it's for the drama though.
For the drama.
Eddie's gonna do it
and because it's EddieBegins, not Chimney Begins.
Eddie is the one that has to go down.
Um, which I do.
Again, this segue is amazing'cause it goes from Eddie going
"Suit me up, I'm going down."
And then the next line ofdialogue is, "Are you insane?"

(44:00):
Yes.
I mean, it's, it was in Texas like 7 yearsago, but still that segue just perfect.
Shannon can't believe thatEddie has reenlisted without
even discussing it with her.
Eddie says, "I'm doing this for you." Andshe's like, "How is this doing it for me?"

(44:21):
Yeah, she's angry.
But Eddie says that someone'sgotta pay for all of this.
I mean, I'm not surprisedshe's angry at this point.
Yeah.
And she's sort of saying that if you hadbeen there, you would've known that it was
Cerebral Palsy and not like an illness.
'cause he calls it Christopher's illness.
Yeah.
Eddie was saying, yeah, Eddie wassaying that he needed money to

(44:42):
pay for Christopher's illness.
And Shannon's saying like, "Ifyou'd been with me at the doctor's
appointments, you'd know that it'snot an illness." And Eddie's like,
"I was in Afghanistan, not Cancun.
I wasn't off having a holiday.
I was working."
I just, I feel so badly forboth of them at this point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So interest, like, I thought it wasthis episode that like, obviously we get

(45:07):
a lot of Eddie's backstory, but I thoughtit was this episode where we got the ages,
but that's not till season six apparently.
Yeah, there's still, when um, whenEllen was talking in the group chat
about, uh, she's still, Alice and I arevery much on the, um, we hate Helena,

(45:28):
Helena Diaz hate train right now.
Um, yeah, Ellen's not quite onthere with us and I was thinking,
but like, why is she not there?
Not on there with us.
Um, until I realized that there aremore episodes about the Diaz family.
So still have.
Yeah, I figured there must bebecause I'm just watching this

(45:49):
going they're not that bad?
Like why so,
so Eddie, um, Eddie and Shannonwere 19 when they got married.
Okay.
I still don't trust 9-1-1 when it comes toages and times and wibbly wobbly things.
Oh, none of us do.
But, um, but yeah, so Shannon is ateenager, fresh out of high school.

(46:14):
Eddie had no degrees, so enlisted inthe military to, to support the family.
Yeah.
But it, it, the ages, likeit wasn't specifically said
that he's 19 in this episode.
Like I thought that it was mentioned.
I think we all just assumedthat they were high school.
It made sense that it was high school.

(46:35):
It's when you look at how old Chris isand how old they are and the way they're
talking, um, about their relationship,it just kind of made sense that there
were high school sweethearts that,
but yeah.
So Shannon's mom, Shannon'smom's already had cancer.
Like was going through cancer,I guess when she was pregnant.
Yeah.
We heard that earlier.
And Eddie's just not there.

(46:57):
Yeah.
It's obvious I think from thisconversation and, and the other
conversations that they havethat they're both in way over
their head with all of this.
Yeah.
Like neither of them arecoping well with anything.
And I mean,
and they both have very differentideas of what it is to be a parent.
Like Shannon's obviously her, she wantsher idea is the two of them together in

(47:18):
the house raising Christopher together.
I don't know whether that's becausethat's how she was raised or
whether that's the ideal that shewanted, whereas Eddie's idea of
being a parent is being a provider.
And we kind of got the idea fromwhat Helena was saying earlier,
that Ramon is a, a absent provider.
Like he's,

(47:38):
yeah.
Ramon didn't even see the birth ofhis kids, so he wasn't there at all
because he was away working.
I think we can get the implicationthat he was away working.
So Eddie
yeah.
Has grown up.
He's like, oh, I'm justgoing away to work.
He's going away to work.
That's how he was raised.
That's what he thinksit means to be a father.
Shannon doesn't quite understand thatEddie doesn't understand what she wants.

(47:59):
They're just these two confusedkids just way in over their heads
and not, but not only that, like Eddieenlisted without telling Shannon.
Yeah, that's, yeah.
That's a dick move.
Yeah, that's kind of a dick move.
She, she got pregnant and he signed up and
it's good money.
I can understand why he did it.

(48:21):
It was really good
Oh, the benefits as well, like, soYes, in America, the cost of having
a baby in hospital is like hundredsof thousands or something ridiculous.
Like it's insane.
Yeah.
Whereas if you've got healthinsurance, they take a portion of that.
And defense has amazing healthinsurance, and they do that
because they want kids to sign up.

(48:45):
Like if you sign up to the military,you're basically set for life.
So it's, it's not a,
or according to, it'sthe propaganda anyway.
It's easy to understand why a veryyoung Texan boy who probably didn't
have aspirations of further education,who thought he was probably just
gonna end up in some kind of likeblue collar job, saw the military as

(49:11):
a really good way to make really goodmoney and take care of his family.
Yeah, yeah.
But while they're fighting backwards andforwards in the kitchen, um, Christopher
starts crying and then we get the, thestandoff where Shannon's just like,
yeah.
Eddie says that Shannon, Shannon's justlike, "Go get your kid. I'll get dinner."

(49:34):
Yeah.
Eddie's waiting forShannon to go get the baby.
She's waiting for him to go get the baby.
And then, oh my God.
It's the most awkward thing.
So Eddie goes into Christopher'sbedroom and like picks him up.
Like he's never, he, it looks like he'snever held this child before in his life.
He has no idea what he's doing.
I'm wondering, like, was, didRyan have a kid at this point?

(49:56):
I mean,
I believe he did,
I'm going to have to google whetherhe did, because whether he did
actually have his kids, becauseYeah, it never looks like he's never
held a child before in his life.
Yeah.
Like I think that's the point is that he'snot there so he doesn't understand how to
Oh yeah.
Mateo was already born, soYeah, he's, yeah, he's had kids,
he's acting,

(50:18):
because I was gonna say,because the interview,
he's doing a very good job then.
Great acting.
Yeah.
Because yeah, he does an interview aboutthe harness that he wears later on.
Yes.
And um, yeah, he told his then wife, "Idon't know if we're having any more kids."
So yes, he had had a child.
Um, but yeah, it's definitelylike, the point is that he's never

(50:39):
held, like it looks like he'snever held this child before.
And it's also that while Christopheris crying to be picked up, as soon
as Eddie picks him up, he startscrying harder because that's not
who he was expecting to pick him up.
And he, like, Eddie is still a, asShannon who's not getting dinner,
she's followed Eddie into the nursery.

(51:00):
Just to rub it in a little bitmore says that, you know, "You
are a stranger to your son."
And this is where Shannon goes, "Eddie, Idon't need a provider. I need a partner."
Yeah.
And then it gets worse because she'slike, "You don't know what it's like
going through this alone." And Eddiesnaps at her and says, "You are
not the only one that feels alone."
Yeah, because that madeit so much better Eddie.

(51:23):
Oh yeah.
Though he tries, hetries to comfort Chris.
Chris is like, who the hell are you?
Nope.
No, I want my mommy
not, not having it.
Like it's such a contrast as well fromearlier in this episode where like, Chris
is so proud of his dad and like, oh,look at my dad's silver star and I wanna

(51:44):
take my dad to, um, show and tell later.
And like the bond that we'veseen them have the entire show.
And then you get this flashbackand it's like, this kid didn't even
know his dad when he was a baby.
All right.
So back to the present?
The present of, uh, thepresent five years ago.

(52:07):
Yes.
Uh, Eddie Eddie's ready,Eddie's ready to go.
Um, he's got
Ready steady Eddie.
He's got extra oxygen, green light, fullsupply of oxygen in case you need it,
um, because the water's rising fast.
Yellow light means there's twominutes left and red is empty.
And Bobby says he wants to seehim topside before he sees red.

(52:28):
They're gonna lose comms, so hehas 30 minutes to dig across.
After 30 minutes, they'regonna tug on the line twice and
then they're pulling him out.
And if he finds the boybefore the 30 minutes is up.
Eddie tugs on the line twice, andhe, and they both get pulled up
Just for the extra drama, theyhave put like this massive digital

(52:52):
timer on Eddie's wrist, whichyou could read out from space.
And they make, they make a big dealof Eddie setting this like massive,
it looks like it's bigger than amicrowave on his wrist to 30 minutes.
So 30 minutes we've got,
they basically got like thebiggest alarm clock in the world

(53:13):
and like strap to his wrist,
strapped to his wrist just to driveit home he's got 30 minutes and then
they, um, Buck slowly because Buck'sthe one working the winch, um, slowly
lowers him down into the tunnel.
While this is all happening, the thunderand lightning, the thunder is getting

(53:34):
louder because the storm is moving closer.
Yeah.
It's getting more and more intense
just to, you know, put the extraextra tension into the scene.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then just to make it even better,um, we cut between Eddie lowering down
and narrating, like giving updates ashe's going down the tunnel and then

(53:57):
the rest of the 118 top side and they.
They could be on a Discordcall for all they know.
'cause the way Eddie is cuttingout, they could be trying to
record a podcast, honestly.
Hey, you're right.
It sounds kind of similar!
They're just in Tasmania,
but yeah, Eddie's, Eddie's talkingand he's trying, he's telling them

(54:20):
what's going on and they cannothear a word that he is saying.
They have no idea what's going on.
So, but he says, "I dunno if you guys canhear me, but I'm gonna punch through."
So he like digs in and he, he gets,he's got like a little saw as well
that he uses to actually cut the pipe.
Yeah, he's not literally punchingthrough, which is what I,

(54:40):
no, he's not playing, not in Minecraft.
He's not like punching the wall
when we're explaining the plan.
I'm just like, um,
Hulk smash?
Like, we're sending Bobby down?
Literally punching through.
He's literally just got a little Yeah,just punching across like Minecraft.
Um, so when he, when he cuts the throughthe pipe, does he also cut the, the

(55:04):
picture like the camera cable thing?
Because Chim also loses the picture.
You know how they fed, they fed down the
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Pipe to see.
So does he I does he,
I don't think so?
Do they show that?
Maybe does this sort ofhappens at the same time?
I don't think he cuts.

(55:25):
I don't know, but it'd be reallyawkward if the kid was there because,
and he, if he cut through the cameraline, would he cut through the kid too?
Like Jesus?
Yeah, that's what I was saying about how,like, if they get the distance wrong.
Yeah, well see if they, but theydo, because we see Eddie cut the
opening and sort of look throughand he looks up expecting to see

(55:46):
Hayden, but Hayden's not there.
So then he has to sort ofpull himself out, turn around,
go back in and look down.
And that's when he can see Hayden.
So the kid has, so the kid slippedfurther down, but yeah, so Eddie calls
down to the kid and says, "Are you doingokay?" And the kid's just like, "CC
cold." It's like, oh, poor little baby.

(56:11):
Um, so Eddie's still like tryingto update them on the radio.
He's like, I got eyes onHayden, he's fallen about.
And then they go up the top and literallyall, all that's coming through is static.
Yep.
Yeah.
And Bobby's getting more and morepanicked and he's, he's like, "I, I

(56:31):
dunno what's going on. We're runningoutta time. We're gonna bring him
up." And Buck is advocating forgiving Eddie the full 30 minutes.
Like he's, he trusts in Eddie.
He's like, "He could have the kid, hecould almost have him. We just need to
give him more time." And Hen's like,"Or he could be suffocating in mud, five
stories underground. We don't know."
Yeah.

(56:52):
But while they're talkingbackwards and forwards.
Um, Eddie is reaching for Hayden and atsome point Hayden has got one arm out.
'cause when we first saw him, he'shad his arms compressed to his chest,
which does not, we can't rescue himwhen he is, got his hands compressed
to his chest, unless Eddie's gonnagrab him by the hair and yank, which I
don't think is proper safety protocol.

(57:14):
So they've managed, the kid has atsome point managed to get one arm
up so that we can see like thisbig hand coming down to, to try and
grab this teeny tiny little hand.
Um, but just as Eddie gets a hold of hishand, it's 30 minutes and Bobby gives
the order for Buck to start pulling.

(57:35):
So he does,
I think, I thought they decidedto bring him up early anyway.
No, I think but Bobby wantedto, Buck was like, no.
Yeah, they wanted him time.
Um, but he, they waited until themassive microwave timer went off.
I mean, Bobby did say we'realmost down to one minute, so
Yeah, they were nearly up anyway.

(57:55):
Yeah.
But time's up, um, they pull him up andhe loses his grip on Hayden's hand and um,
yeah.
'cause he's had no warning.
He's like, No, no, no!
He's like, and he he had a very precarious
there was no double tap.
Yeah.
It was just the, the, his microwavetimer started beeping and then

(58:16):
boom, he's being like expresscourse straight up to the surface.
Um.
Which,
and so naturally, because Eddie doesnot have the brain cell this episode,
um, nobody has the brain cell this episode
No one has the brain cell thisepisode, Athena took it with her.
Um, apparently.
But can we just, but yeah, Eddie,the size of that fucking knife.

(58:40):
Yeah.
Literal, he pulled out like a machete.
Yeah, where was he keeping this?
While he's like, going up the pipe?
Like what?
It it's so very muchlike Crocodile Dundee.
That's not a knife.
This is a knife that he is somehowsecreted on his body somewhere and
managed to like, get out in that tiny,he's managed to pull it out, wedged
in that tiny little pipe and Yeah.

(59:03):
Cut the fricking rope.
Yeah.
Cuts the rope and slides down the tunnel.
Um, so just quickly before we continue,um, this is the interview that I was
talking about where Eddie, like Ryanwas talking about the experience of
filming this and he had to go downthe little, like, like a little
tunnely thing and he was in a harness.

(59:26):
And usually when you're wearing a harness,you sort of lean back a and like don't
put all weight into it on the harness.
Yeah.
But you can't, you couldn't do thatin the tunnel because it was so
narrow that it, it ended up justbeing all of his weight on his groin.
Oh.
Um, for hours while filming.

(59:48):
Oh, no.
And so he like said to his thenwife, he's like, I don't know
if we're having any more kids,
but Yeah.
Ouch.
Um, the things you do for art.
Yeah,
yeah.
Anyway, so yeah, Eddie, Eddie cutsthe line, um, and back up at the
surface, Buck's lost the weight.

(01:00:09):
Yeah.
He immediately
And Chim's like, "What,what does that mean?"
He immediately knows, he immediately feelsthat Eddie is not connected to the end.
So he's like yanking upthe rope double time.
Yeah.
'cause well, like, there's nothing on theend of it now, so you can go real fast.
It is counting, it's like15 feet, 10 feet, five feet.
Alright.

(01:00:29):
And then the end of the rope comes to thesurface and Bobby grabs it and Eddie is
not attached to it, and they can see quiteclearly that the rope has been severed
and everyone just freaks the fuck out.
Yeah.
Like Hen's like "He cut the damnline" while everyone else is just
like hands on head, like, oh my God.
Yeah.
Like Chim's throwing his handsup like, "oh my God." Which we,

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then we go to commercial on thathorrific, horrific, um, concept.
And when we come back we getlike, this is probably the second
best line of the, the episode.
They decide that they, this timethey are gonna send Chim down,
which makes sense for two reasons.
One, because Chim willphysically fit down.

(01:01:13):
Um, I mean, Buck is not beef,not Season eight beef cake.
But he's still, you know,quite a bit broader than Chim.
Um, also because Chim is a littlebit more sensible than Buck.
Yeah.
So Buck's just like "Cap.
I should be the one to go down," andHen just turns around and goes, "So
we can end up with two cut lines?" andBuck's immediately, like, yeah, yeah.

(01:01:34):
Okay.
Fair.
Like, he doesn't evenargue, just like, yep.
Oh, okay.
So then the camera comes back on.
So Eddie mustn't have cut the camerabecause we get the image again.
Yeah.
Oh, but the camera's underwater.
Yes.
Yeah.
So Eddie is okay.
He's landed like, he, he was like puttinghis hands on the, on the sides of the

(01:01:58):
tunnels to slow himself down as he fell.
So he must have like,not landed too heavily.
But we hear Shannon's voice saying,"Eddie, Eddie, can you hear me?" And
we get the, he flashes back to, Shannonand Chris are on like a, a video
call, when Eddie's in Afghanistan,um, Chris has grown up a little bit.

(01:02:22):
He's now, uh, four years old.
Do we actually get like atime like date stamps in these
flashbacks that I remember?
Yeah, it does say Afghanistan.
It does say Afghanistan 2015.
Okay, good.
So we know how much time has passed.
I'm not making that up.
It is actually on the screen,like the El Paso and the
Afghanistan ones are timestamped

(01:02:44):
Good.
Okay.
Uh, yeah, the phone call is notconnected very well, so they keep
kind of glitching out and theycan't hear each other very well.
Shannon's asking if hefound out about his leave...
Another Discord call.
Yeah.
Um, but Eddie's moving out.
He's gotta, he's gotta leave.
Um, so he can't hang around to chat.

(01:03:07):
Yeah, but so Shannon'sasked him to take leave.
Eddie's still waiting tohear, and Shannon looks visibly
upset, so Eddie's like, "What'sgoing on? Like, is it Chris?"
But no, it's Shannon's mom.
It's cancer and Eddie's, like, no,she had the double masta mastectomy,

(01:03:30):
the odds, but it's a different cancer.
Um, it's endometrialcarcinoma stage three.
Yeah.
So Shannon needs Eddie back now becauseshe needs to go to see her mother.
Um, and Eddie's just like, "I, I, I don'tknow, we, we will figure something out,"

(01:03:50):
"Call my parents," which I'msure Shannon totally wants to do.
Yes.
Uh, but before they can have, beforethey can take the conversation
any further, the call drops.
Um, and then Eddie starts slappingat the tablet like it's rabbit
ears and if he just shakes it hardenough, he'll get reception back.

(01:04:12):
Um, I don't think that's how it works.
No.
So we're going to getthe, the war footage.
And interestingly enough, I discoveredthat, um, Ryan got his cousin involved
in this scene or these scenes.
So he has a, a cousin who is a veteran.

(01:04:34):
He did five tours.
So Ryan pretty much gave him thescript and his cousin rewrote it.
Oh.
Um, yeah, like authenticated everything.
So.
Rewrote a bit bit of the script, um,made sure the patches on the uniforms
and the equipment were correct.
Right.

(01:04:54):
And yeah.
So really cool.
Hmm.
Which I think really comes throughin this scene 'cause there's a lot
of like the discussion over the radiothat's does not sound like the kind
of radio chatter that you normallyfind in television shows and movies.
Yeah.
Because all of it, pretty muchall of it is indecipherable.
Like what the fuck areyou guys talking about?

(01:05:16):
Yeah.
But it's authe, it's authentic.
That's how apparently youwould talk over the radio.
Mm-hmm.
So, um, good on Ryan for being that kindof serious about getting Eddie's storyline
right that he reached out for an expert.

(01:05:38):
Hear that writers?.
He got an expert, they got experts in.
You can do that, you know, you canreach out and get expert advice and
then actually listen to expert advice.
Yeah.
Good on the, to act for listeningto expert advice this time.
Um,
yeah, the medical consultant is pullingout her hair in the corner, but you know.

(01:05:59):
Sure.
So yeah, so that's, um,
but yeah, we get some banterbetween the soldiers as well.
Um, one of them says that likefrom up there it's kind of pretty
and almost makes you forget you'reflying through the valley of death.
Yeah.
So they're up, they'reup in the helicopters.
They're, the medics are in a helicopter.

(01:06:20):
They have flown somewhere to pick upwounded American soldiers and they're
bringing them back to base and they'reflying over the so-called Valley of
Death, which does look very pretty.
Um, but yes, one of the guys takesumbridge at the, uh, the scenery
below them being called the Valleyof Death, considering, you know,
they are, you know, wounded and

(01:06:43):
transporting wounded.
Yeah.
They're, "There are guys dying backhere!" he tells Mills and she's
just like, "well, I didn't name it.
The dead guys did."
So then we meet Greggs.
Greggs is one of the wounded soldiersand he is lying on a stretcher in
the back of the, um, helicopter.
Eddie's working on him and he pointsout that Eddie has dropped something.

(01:07:08):
And it turns out that Eddie's St.Christopher Medallion is like cheap
past piece of shit because theclasp keeps breaking so it's fallen.
Um, and Eddie picks it up, shovesit in his pocket for safekeeping.
Um, Gregs recognizes itand asks him about it.

(01:07:29):
Asks Eddie if he's religious.
Um.
And Eddie said, no, no, not really.
It just, it reminds his wife gaveit to him when their son was born.
It reminds Eddie of his son.
Um, and Greggs says, no,that's why I got this.
And sort of Eddie's been cuttinghis shirt at this point to access
the bullet wounds on his chest.
And we see that Greggs has got atattoo for his daughters on his chest.

(01:07:54):
And guess he says if he ever loses that,then you know he's got bigger problems.
Three girls he's got, apparently
yeah, they're, they're trying to likeDavid Wallace him as much as they can in
the short amount of time that they've got.
Um, doesn't quite work, but it is,it's a nice little sort of banter

(01:08:15):
and honestly, I think that Eddiereally should just get the St.
Christopher Medallion tattooed on him.
It'd be so much easier.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Instead of dropping it all the time.
Yes.
But while the, while this is going onand while we're all haha, like look
at this touching little moment, um, wehear a whooshing noise and the collision

(01:08:38):
alarm in the cockpit starts going off.
And Mills who is like supposed to bekeeping an eye out, spins around and
then screams and panic that there isincoming and we don't actually see it.
But there has been like a missilelaunched at the helicopter and
helicopters, which are not, you know,renowned for their maneuverability,
um, is unable to avoid it.

(01:08:59):
And the helicopter is hit.
It goes down.
Yeah.
I don't think, like, we don't sort ofsee what happens until Eddie wakes up.
Right?
Like they're under fire basically.
It's interesting.
We go from helicopter crashand it's sunny to, um,
to nighttime.

(01:09:21):
Nighttime.
And there's gunfire.
Yeah.
So I dunno how, how long Eddie wasactually out for or if he's like fallen
over later and hit his head or something.
Because how do we go fromdaytime to nighttime?
I don't dunno.
But anyway, let's not worry about that.
For the drama,
for the drama it's now night,
yes.
It's now nighttime.

(01:09:41):
Um, machine guns are firing,
machine guns are firing.
Um, Eddie immediately takescharge of the situation.
He radios back to base.
I don't know if we neverhear back from base.
So maybe it's like when he was downin the tunnel, he's just talking
into a radio, nobody can hear him.
But he goes about trying to get everybodyout of the helicopter to cover because

(01:10:06):
they're sitting ducks in the helicopter.
So he gets Mills out first,gets her over to cover.
Um, and then she provides cover forhim as he goes back and forth to get
everybody else out of the helicopter.
But one of the pilots is stuck.
While Eddie is working to a, treat theopen fracture on his thigh, um, and

(01:10:32):
b, get him out of the cockpit, one ofthe other soldiers who has a serious
concussion is completely confused.
Um, starts standing up andwandering around and trying
to get out of the helicopter.
Um, just putting himself likepainting a giant target on his back.
Um, but Eddie grabs him and, um, dragshim back over, but in the process manages

(01:10:55):
to get himself shot in the shoulder.
Well, um, the soldier who, hisname is Norwahl, which my auto
correct when I was running thenotes, kept changing to narwhal.
Um, he gets
Narwhal, narwhal, swimming inthe ocean, making a commotion.
Um, he stumbles outta the helicopter andit like almost immediately gets shot.

(01:11:16):
And then Eddie in trying to get himback to cover, gets shot as well.
But they finally get, um, radio contactwith the base who are six minutes out.
So at least he's nottalking to, to empty air.
Somebody is listening to him.
Yeah.
But, but they don't have six minutes.

(01:11:37):
No.
'cause the, the enemy are nowunloading bigger and better guns,
whereas the American, the Americansoldiers are running low on ammunition.
But yeah.
So at this point, everyone is outof the helicopter except for Greggs.

(01:11:57):
Yeah.
Um, Greggs,
Except Greggs is dead.
Greggs has died.
Greggs died.
Yeah.
Um, he didn't survivethe collision, I assume.
I'm gonna assume so.
Yeah.
But yeah, Eddie is like, yeah,no, he's coming home with us too.
So Eddie goes and pulls Greggs outand then the chopper's blown up.

(01:12:21):
Yeah.
The chopper gets hit with like, yeah,it's so well done because he gets Greggs
out, like I'm assuming it's like anrrp G hits the helicopter and you see
Eddie get slammed into the side of thehelicopter and bounce off from the impact.
He bounces off the helicopter?

(01:12:43):
Doesn't he get...
yeah.
Blown away from it?
Hang on then.
Uh, yeah, he goes to the helicopter,something hits the helicopter,
um, and he like, it throws him in.
He, you literally see his headsnap backwards and forwards as he
bounces off the side and falls down.
So kudos to the stunt guy.
Good work there.

(01:13:03):
Looks like that was before he wentback to get Greggs, then he goes
to get Greg and then they actuallysucceed in blowing the helicopter up.
Yeah.
So they all duck undercover.
They're trying to sort of return fireand stuff, but the end is in sight.
Like they're all preparing themselves.
He's having flashbacks to whenShannon had given him the medallion,

(01:13:26):
Eddie's out of ammo and using hishandgun, but gets shot from the hand and
he's eventually, he's like, he'shaving these flashbacks and they
look up and, and a helicopter appearsand that it's someone coming to, you
know, shooting at the guys who hadthem under siege and they're saved.

(01:13:46):
They're gonna be okay,
so the important point of thatscene is that the St. Christopher
medal was there to protect him andkeep him safe and that he promised
that he had, that he has a family
he's gonna return home.
That he needs, he needs tocome home to his family.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's got the, the medal and he's alsogot a photo of Christopher as well.

(01:14:09):
He ends up in a, in a medical tent abit later and he's got lots of bandages
to show that he's been injured, abroken bone, a dislocated shoulder.
He's sort of asking about the restof the team and, um, that this person
who's, who talking to the medic, I guess?

(01:14:29):
Uh, no, no.
It's the officer who's come to see him.
The others aren't like, "Greggs isdead, but the others aren't thanks to
you." So he, he sort of looks aroundand sees all of his teammates and gives
them stern, like, you know, solemn nods
does the head count.
Everyone else is there,everyone else is still alive.
He can relax.

(01:14:49):
And then he realizes who's talking to him.
Yeah, he tries to stand and salute andshe's like, um, maybe just stay in there.
Please don't do that.
Um, she's like, don't attempt tostand on ceremony right now or at all.
Um, and that's where Eddie confirmsthat Greggs died on impact.
And she's like, "yep.
And you pulled him out anyway.
You got them all out Sergeant Diaz.

(01:15:09):
You got a bit more metal in you thanyou had before and no doubt, a couple
of new nightmares to add to the pile,but you're alive and so are they."
Yep.
He needs to call Shannon,but, um, she says that he will
be going home for a spell.
Um, you did good.
Even Greggs, and he did good.
Eddie says that he doesn'tfeel like he did good enough.

(01:15:31):
And the sergeant says that "It neverdoes, but they'll probably give you a
medal for it." And then we segue to,uh, Texas three months later, and Ramon
is reading out the, um, commendationthat came with the medal that they
awarded to Eddie, his Silver Star.

(01:15:52):
What medal did he get?
Oh my God.
Did you know he got a Silver Star?
Eddie has a silver star.
Eddie got a silver star.
Never do anything illegal.
Never do anything illegal.
'cause Eddie has a Silver Star.
So Ramon is reading out this citation andhis sister's getting pissed off with him.

(01:16:13):
And she's like, "Wecan all read it, Ramon.
You don't have to read it to us."And their mother is just like,
"Just, just let him, let him go.
Like he's proud.
It's not every day that yourson comes home as a hero."
Oh,
and here's where you need to hold me back.
'cause I'm about to start swinging

(01:16:35):
because Eddie walks in at this point andhe's got food and a drink for Christopher.
And he just like, "I,no, I'm, I'm not a hero.
I just did what anyone else woulddo." Um, and he puts the food in
the drink down in front of hisson and his mother is immediately
like, "No, he can't drink this.
He needs this, he needsthis, he needs this.
He can't have this.

(01:16:55):
Where are the ju juiceboxes that we brought?"
And Eddie's like, "I, I, I don't know."And then Helena looks at Christopher in
this really sugary sweet voice is like,"Well, maybe Daddy can go be a hero in
the kitchen and find the juice boxes.
Hmm?"
Death is not good enough for this woman.

(01:17:16):
So Eddie returns to the kitchen andShannon's there and asks what's wrong?
And it is like, apparently I gavemy son a beverage incorrectly and
Shannon goes, oh, your mother.
Yeah.
I'm familiar with the tone.
Which am
I, I don't know if I'm wrong tofeel relieved that it's not just

(01:17:38):
Eddie that gets this, but likeshe's doing this to Shannon too.
Yeah.
She's clearly been drivingShannon up the wall.
Poor Shannon.
Yeah.
Poor Shannon has been like,essentially alone without a husband
and having to deal with his mother,her husband's overbearing mother.
I don't think Ramon gets a pass either.

(01:17:59):
'cause he's like,
God no.
But yeah, I, uh,
nope, nope.
But, um, anyway, so apparentlyShannon wants to go to California.
Um, we, we know now thatthat's where her mother is.
But she's like, "We could leave in themorning, just you, me, Christopher on the

(01:18:20):
open road." And Eddie's not about this.
Like he clearly, he either hasn'tgiven it any thought or has like
put it in the not gonna happen pile.
Um, and just goes, "We havea house full of people.
Half of 'em flew here to see us, nowreally isn't the best time." And she's

(01:18:41):
like, "Well, you're finally home." AndEddie goes, "Yeah, and you immediately
want me to get into a car and drive 800miles with a 6-year-old." Who Shannon
reminds him is her son, uh, his son.
I don't know if it's, he hasn't givenit any thought or it's not gonna
happen, or he's just, he's come backfrom war and pretty traumatic war.

(01:19:04):
Maybe he just, as yousaid, he needs some time,
wants a break?
To just, yeah.
Chill.
And he needs to reacclimate tobeing back in civilian life.
'cause he's been in very regimentedmilitary life for, this is 2015,
so over the last couple of years.

(01:19:25):
So going from that to civilian lifeis not as easy as people would,
as Shannon like to think about it.
It's not just a switch that you can flick.
So
he probably to need something probablyneeds some familiarity before he
jumps into the next adventure.
Yeah.
But all Shannon can see is thatthis is like her opportunity now.

(01:19:48):
Yeah, so Shannon, keeping in mind,Shannon's mother has stage three cancer.
Oh yeah.
Not discounting that..
And this is what, threemonths later, so like, yeah.
Yeah.
Um, but yeah.
So Shannon just wants to go to her mom.
Yes.
And like, okay, hang on.
What year was Chris born?
2011? Maybe 2010?

(01:20:13):
I dunno.
Does it actually say in theepisode or do we just get 2015?
No, I think we 2011
must if he six, I think we just, yeah.
Yeah.
We are guessing around 2011.
Okay.
So hang on.
If they were 19 in
Yeah, no, don't do the math.

(01:20:35):
You're like, don't do this again.
Okay.
That works out with Shannon's gravestone.
Hang on.
So then
The gravestone, oh god,we are joining the dots.
We are joining the dots
We've connected them.
We've got the red string.
Okay.
Hang on.
I've forgotten how to do math.
So if they were 19 in2011, we're now in 2015.

(01:20:59):
Yes.
So she's now 23.
So she's still a baby.
Hang on.
Did, if she, we can't be in 2015 now.
If he was born in 2011 and now he's six.
Okay.
So we're in 2015.
Okay, let's, okay.
Maybe he was born in 2009.

(01:21:21):
I will say that the 2011 is just, Iguess, reversed engineering and it's
on the Wiki, so it's not set in stone.
We don't actually have an officialbirth date for Christopher.
We're just looking at kind of, yeah.
Oh my God.
Anyway, it doesn't matter.
Anyway.
Anyway, they're still young.

(01:21:41):
Shannon just wants to go to her mom.
Shannon needs her mother.
Eddie needs time.
And Shannon says very sarcastically.
Yes.
Take all the time that you needand storms out of the kitchen.
Funnily enough, he, no, actually,Eddie leaves the kitchen, Eddie storms
out of the kitchen with the juice boxso that he can be a big damn hero.

(01:22:04):
Um, and we, we are leftlingering on Shannon.
It's like when he was away,they forgot how to speak to
each other in a civil manner.
Think they talked to each other before
I was about to say it before went away.
They didn't know how totalk each other before.
They never, they nevercould do talking sex.
They were good at, they nevercould do the talking thing.
Hmm.
But this is all in flashback and I thinkit's, it must be like a dream because

(01:22:29):
Eddie wakes up to Hayden calling forhis mother, but then it's also Hayden
calling for his mother, um, mergesinto another dream where Christopher
is calling for where he's asleep.
It's really weird, but we get reminderof, oh, hey, Chris is, um, Eddie,

(01:22:52):
he's flashing memories the like this time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, and then he wakes up in a flashbackwhere Chris is in bed with him and
Eddie asks, "Where's, where's Mommy?"
Where's Shannon?
And Chris says, "oh yeah, she's gone."And he rolls over to find a note on his

(01:23:15):
bedside table, um, that simply says, "Ineed some time too." So you can kind of
understand why Eddie was so pissed at her.
Yeah.
The fact that she got up and left in themiddle of the night and all she left was
a note that said, I need some time too.
Like, I'm definitely not sayingShannon did the right thing, but

(01:23:36):
Oh no.
Like, so Shannon gets a lot of hateonline about like her, everything.
And
I put Shannon in this samecategory for me as Mary Winchester.
I will stand in front of her and Iwill shield her with my life, and I
will defend her to the day that I die.

(01:23:58):
And then I'm gonna turnaround and I'm gonna slap her.
Yeah.
And like, what the thefuck are you doing, girl?
I will, I will always have your back.
But damn, were you stupid.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, it's so ha, because like Shannon wasa like essentially alone with a child with
difficulties as a teenager and then earlytwenties and Eddie gets praised and called

(01:24:24):
a hero because he was off fighting a war.
And like Eddie was gone forlike, until Chris was six.
Eddie was gone.
Not in the picture at all.
And then when Shannon's like,okay, now I need some time.
Like we again, we like,she's gone to see her mom.

(01:24:44):
She gets villainized.
Yeah.
She's completely villainized.
And it's like, okay, but likemen do this all the fucking time.
But what's worse is she'snot just villainized by the
fandom, she's villainized bythe people in the show as well.
The story.
Yeah.
Like the Diazs hate her for whatthey, what she did, what she quote
unquote did to Eddie and Chris

(01:25:07):
when Eddie wasn't therefor the first six years.
But that's was fine because she wasproviding for the family and that's like,
okay, Buty, but she's providing for a mom.
Exactly.
Gender roles and misogyny and patriarchy,et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Yeah.
Like she's expected just 'causeshe's a woman that she has to.

(01:25:27):
Just stay and deal with it.
Whereas Eddie just kept running away.
Yeah.
And his family are like,oh, look at this hero.
How terrible is Chris's mom when youknow you are providing for the family.
So it was great.
And Shannon just wanted a partner.
She just wanted help.
Yeah.
I don't know if anyone'sin the right here, but

(01:25:51):
Oh, it's very sad.
It's very sad.
The whole situation
in other sad situations.
Let's get back to Hayden.
Oh gosh.
Poor Hayden.
He's still down the hole
Eddie has, finally he has, butEddie's finally reached him.
Pulls him out of the tiny holethat he was in, into this slightly
bigger hole that Eddie is in.
But he at least gets, you know, a niceblank, a nice thermal blanket to try and,

(01:26:15):
you know, keep him a little bit warm.
And he finds yet again, Eddie
again, Eddie, just get it tattooed on you.
Seems to have fallen off again.
It keeps falling.
It keeps falling off and getting,I mean, at least everyone keeps
picking it up and finding it for him.
Yeah.
It's not one of these situationswhere he completely, it gets lost.

(01:26:37):
Which, you know, could you imaginethe implications of him losing
his St. Christopher medallion?
Um, that would be some foreshadowing.
Oh, wouldn't it?
Some disastrous foreshadowing, um.
Hmm.
But thankfully, as well as his, um,St. Christopher medal being found, he
himself gets found because, uh, Chimneylowers into frame, to rescue him.

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Yay!
Yay.
Chim to the rescue.
So they, they strap Hayden to Chim,and he tells Eddie that he's gonna take
Hayden up to the surface, and then they'regonna bring down another line for Eddie.
Try not to cut this one.
So Chim brings Hayden up to the surface.

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Um, everyone's cheering,everyone's, celebrating.
They managed to rescue the kid.
Chim gets, um, pulled out and he'slike, "Eddie's fine. He just needs a
ride." And Bobby tells Buck, "Okay,let's drop another line. Let's get
Eddie up and let's all go home."

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And almost as soon as Bobby says, let's gohome that storm that has been approaching
all episode, Chekov's thunderstorm,um, suddenly hits and lightning strikes
that five story lightning rod, thatis the, the boom of the drilling truck
knocking the crane over, sending everyonescattering and, uh, caving in the tunnel.

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Oh, and this, this scene, so Buck hadimmediate, Buck had initially knocked
Bobby out of the way so that he wasfree from the crane when it fell over.
Um, as soon as he's sure that Bobby isfine, his next thoughts are for Eddie.
He looks back and the tunnel is gone.

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Oh.
Oh.
He's so frantic,
and once again, Oliver's voicehits that pitch that the dogs could
hear as he's calling for Eddieand literally trying to dig the
tunnel out by hand to get to Eddie.
It's insane.
And Bobby is trying to pull himoff, and the, the scene ends.

(01:28:59):
We go to commercial with Bobby sprawledon the ground 'cause he's been trying to
pull Buck up and Buck just not moving.
And Buck is, um, laying on his lap,just screaming, crying, sobbing.
Probably would be throwing up too.
Poor Buck.
He's so worried.

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And I think I remember readingsomewhere or hearing somewhere that the
look on Bobby's face is actually thelook on Peter's face, because Oliver
just went all out in that and Peterwasn't expecting that from Oliver.
Hmm.
I mean, he seems to have pulledhimself together a little bit, um,

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for the next bit after the commercial.
Uh, he took, he took the commercialbreak to calm himself a little bit.
They gave him a Valium.
Yeah.
He said he tells everyone we haveto go dig and Bobby's like, "We
don't have the drill anymore.
It's now lying on the muddy field.

(01:30:03):
Uh, the access road's flooded.
We can't get another one." So Buck'slike, "Wait, we can dig by hand."
Yeah, we dig by hand.
No, they can't because it's raining.
They can't do that.
It'll just more collapse.
It's just gonna keepcollapsing every time they dig.
And Buck finally realizes that"You, you all think he's dead."
'cause they're all trying totalk him out of all of his ideas.

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And Bobby's like, "Nobody thinks that."
Yeah.
E everyone's beingreally gentle with Buck.
Yeah.
And they're all basically treatingBuck the way they treat the family.
Members of victims.
Yeah.
No one's giving up on him.
We're gonna find him.

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But yeah, it is very interestinghow concerned they are about making
sure Buck is okay in this situation.
But I'm sure all of them are freakingout about the fact that they've lost
Eddie and they all want to be doingwhat they can to get Eddie out.
But at this point in time, their toppriority is making sure Buck is calm

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and not gonna do something stupid.
Not because he's Buck.
I mean it could be because he'sBuck and like he's an idiot who
will go and do something stupid.
But because they recognize that like I'mputting my clown makeup on here, but they
recognize that there is a bond betweenBuck and Eddie that is sort of getting
in the way here of like short circuitingBuck's already one brain cell thinking.

(01:31:33):
Yeah.
Yeah.
The brain cell is not in this episode.
No.
Um, and then while they're all reassuringBuck that like nobody thinks that he's
dead, um, we get the scene from thebeginning of the episode where Eddie
wakes up underground and is desperatelytrying to get someone to hear him

(01:31:56):
because he's still alive down there.
And in possibly the most on the nose segueof the episode, he is been buried alive.
And we get his father saying, "You arein over your head, Edmundo." Yes he is.
But if Ramon is coming from 2017,and he's not talking about Eddie

(01:32:21):
literally being in over his head,but more figuratively with parenting.
Um, yeah.
We are in El Paso in two th 2017, and,uh, Ramon and Helena are doing and
staging an intervention, a parentingintervention on Eddie, which basically

(01:32:44):
sums up to We wanna take your kid.
It's, it comes from a place of love, Ithink, because they're, they're saying,
"Look, you are killing yourself. You havebeen working around the club, you are
working three different jobs. Um, youdon't have time for Christopher, so let
us help you, let us take Christopher."

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and Eddie's once again sayinglike, " I, I don't need your help."
We get the reference to he's appliedto different fire departments.
We don't know why he's chosen to gointo firefighting, why he picked Chicago
or la I mean LA I understand becausehe's got family out there, but why he
picked Chicago and why firefighting?
We don't know.

(01:33:25):
Yeah.
Apparently this is not the answer.
I see.
Helena was looking for though, becauseshe says "That's gonna be worse
because you're gonna be doing 24 hourshifts. Who, you're gonna be leaving
Christopher with God knows who."
Um, I'm pretty sure it's mentioned indosed why he gets into firefighting.
Is it?
Yeah.
When, um, they're all being interviewedby Taylor Kelly, I'm pretty sure it's

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then when he says that the reason that hegot into firefighting was that after he
left the army, he missed the comradery.
We, we do get that quote, butwhy firefighting for comradery?
There are lots of different,
I guess he likes saving people too.
He says "What I miss most about leavingthe army is the camaraderie, working
shoulder to shoulder with a greatteam. That's, um, there's nothing
better than the one I found with the118." So he's comparing, working as

(01:34:15):
a firefighter, as with working inthe army, but that doesn't kind of
explain why he goes into firefighting.
But that, that's neither here nor there.
The point is that he wants to be afirefighter, which means he's gonna
be working 24 hour shifts, which isnot exactly ideal when you are trying
to parent and solo parent especially.
And his father chimes in and says that," what Christopher needs is consistency.

(01:34:41):
Um, you know, he alreadygot cheated about that.
When he is good for nothing,mother up and left."
I love like, Eddie's response is like,"Hey, she didn't leave him, she left me."
Um, which, ouch.
But you know, Eddie is always gonnabe Shannon's loudest defender.
Even when he doesn't like her, heis still going to defend her against

(01:35:04):
all of her, her loudest haters, whichinclude Helena because she says she
will always blame Shannon for givingup on Eddie and leaving her son.
Hmm.
And then Eddie's like, "but you want meto leave him too? How do you think that's
good for him?" And Ramon just goes,"Eddie, he barely knows you. You haven't
been around most of his life." and,

(01:35:25):
and Eddie, Eddie has a perfect comeback.
Eddie says, "I don't remember you beingaround much." And Ramon says he was
working and Eddie's like, "So was I. Andmaybe you regret those life choices now,
but you don't get to make up for losttime with your children by stealing mine."
Yeah.
I mean, he's possibly going alittle far with that because they're
not like they're offering to takeChristopher to look after him.

(01:35:48):
Right?
Like, Eddie's still gonna be around.
It's not like he's leaving to go work.
No, but he is, if he's, he's appliedto LA and Chicago, so if he gets those
positions, they're saying keep, they wantChristopher to stay with them in Texas
and he's gonna go off somewhere to work.
I don't like that option anymore.

(01:36:09):
And yeah, I mean, he's, he's, he'sobviously coming at this from a very
emotional place and that, you know, he'slost his, um, his wife has left him.
He's struggling looking after.
He's obviously feeling very underpressure to look after Christopher.
Um, so he's reacting very emotionally,but I mean, his parents are not making

(01:36:31):
it easy for me to feel sympathetic forthem because Helene, um, Helena says
to him, um, "Look, we know how muchyou love Christopher. That's why we
know you're gonna do what's right forhim. Don't drag him down with you."
Yeah.
She's got some cracker or awful lines.

(01:36:51):
Oh, she is so bad.
And I mean, we knew, we knew thatthey weren't supportive because of the
conversation... when is it "Stuck"?
Or perhaps earlier in maybe 7.1 whenwe first meet Eddie and Christopher.
And we get the sense that,you know, his parents.

(01:37:12):
'cause that's why he was so takenwith Buck when Buck immediately
threw himself into helping andloving Christopher, uh, because his
own parents were not helping him.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And so this is kind of the proof ofhow much they were not helping him
or perhaps helping him in the waythat he needed help or wanted help.

(01:37:34):
Yeah.
That's it.
It's very like, they're very much notbeing the guidance and being the help.
They're just like, this is howyou, like, I can do it better.
Just let me do it.
Yeah.
Well, they're prescribing it.
Like they're not asking him what he needs.
They're just saying, Ithink this is what you need.
They're
telling
him what he needs,
what this is what you need.
But while all of this is going on,Chris is sitting out on the porch

(01:37:55):
and I think he can pretty muchhear everything that's being said.
Yeah, so this is now Gavin again, right?
Like previously we had another actorwho was playing young Christopher,
and he did such a great job.
I was sure that, I was sure thatthe actor, that when they did the

(01:38:16):
video call, like the glitchy videocall, I was sure that that was Gavin.
Yeah.
It may have been I don't remember.
I don't remember either, butno, yeah, parts of the scenes
were definitely a different kid,
no, it wasn't, because when he's,even when Christopher's in bed
with Eddie, that's the other actor.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
He's, it was so much like him.
He looks so much like him.
He is like a, a perfectcasting, young version of, um,

(01:38:38):
little mini me.
Gavin.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But yes.
So cute.
This is Gavin.
We're back to Gavin.
This is back to Gavin.
Yeah.
He did hear everything because,or at least he heard the tone of
voices because he tells Eddie thateveryone sounds mad and he's never
heard his, um, abuela and abuelayell before, which Eddie's like, wow.

(01:39:00):
It's like they, like we're talkingabout completely different people.
Like, Ooh, Eddie,
I cracked up with that.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
And then we get like the mostheartbreaking lines where Eddie
goes, "Hey, did you ever missme when I was gone?" And Chris
goes, "I miss you all the time."

(01:39:21):
Aw.
So.
Eddie goes, "you know, I wasthinking about taking another
trip and I was wondering maybe ifyou wanted to come with me." And
together?
Christopher's like "To together?
Really??
Really?
So finally they're making the plans.
Yeah.
Um, and Eddie goes, "yeah, I missyou all the time. True kid. I'm

(01:39:42):
never gonna leave you again."
Cute.
Such a cute scene.
Oh, it's so heartbreaking.
It's cute.
So from there, from his promise tonever leave Christopher again, we cut
to Eddie swimming through all of theunderground feeder pipes, drainage
tunnels, um, trying to find a way out ofthe predicament that he's finding himself

(01:40:08):
in so that he can get home to Christopher.
Um, and we get a very pointed shotof his O2 meter, which is now on red.
And uh, was, we got told fromfrom Bobby earlier that when it
was on red, he had to be topside.
So instead of continuing to haul aroundthat heavy weight, which could slow him

(01:40:32):
down, he dumps his O2 and keeps swimming.
Yeah.
This is a,
it's very disorienting,
strange scene.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's got a, a neon green light stick.
So everything is either pitch blackor this weird alien, um, neon green.

(01:40:54):
And we get like the sound ofa heartbeat and, and we get,
and then we hear the
voiceovers.
We start getting, yeah.
And we get a quick reminder about the,um, the, the intersecting feed of pipes,
the drainage tunnels and Buck saying itfeels like a lot of distance to cover
when you're 40 something feet down.
And it's almost like at that pointwe get the, Eddie gives up because we

(01:41:18):
see him exhale, we see bubbles, andthen we see him stop moving and it's
like, he's like, it's, it's too much.
I can't do this.
And the most, I know we talk aboutthe, the needle drops on, on this
show, but honestly, whoever pickedthis song, it's a beautiful song.

(01:41:41):
And then you actually look at what thelyrics say and you're like, oh my God.
Yeah, I know hurts.
It's hard to breathe sometimes?
Yeah,
"I know it hurts.
It's hard to breathe sometimes.
Is anybody out there?
Can you lead me to the light?
Tell me It'll be all right.
You are not alone.
I've been here the whole time.
I will carry you."
What the hell?

(01:42:05):
So while this is playing and it's,it's very slow and it's very beautiful,
um, we start getting flashes aboutChristopher and about Buck's family.
No, not Buck's family.
About,
well...
I mean it kind of is, it kind of is.

(01:42:25):
But about Christopherand about Eddie's family.
So we flash back to the first timethat we meet Christopher when the
first time that Buck meets Christopherwhere um, the first time Buck
realizes that there is a Christopher.
That scene in the firetruck whereBuck's like, "Wait, you got a kid?
That's adorable. I love kids."

(01:42:49):
Such a cute scene in that one.
Yeah.
So we get, it's just awhole bunch of flashbacks.
So it's a Eddie and Buck in the firetruck.
Um, Eddie's induction to the L-A-F-Dwith Christopher carrying Eddie's helmet.
The scene from "Stuck" where the 118 arehanging out in the loft with Christopher.

(01:43:12):
It's pretty much half of "Stuck".
It is pretty much half of "Stuck".
Yeah, there you go.
I wasn't crazy.
They actually mention itlike they go back to "Dosed"
yeah.
In this with Eddie talking about, I waslike, I swear I watched it recently.
It's 'cause it's in the flashback, duh.
It's 'cause we, we get that voiceover.
Because it's focusing on the great team,and the 118 is the family that he chose.

(01:43:38):
So we get lots of Christopher,we therefore get lots of Buck
because pretty much every memoryof Christopher has Buck in it.
Um,
literally there's so much Buck.
Like the first time I watched it, I waslike, I'm totally normal montage when
you're dying of like you and your bestie.
Look, I, once again, I'm...
just hugging it out,
piling on, I'm piling on the clown makeupbecause there is a disproportionate

(01:44:02):
amount of buck in this thinkingabout all the important things in his
life that he needs to come back to.
But we do get,
um, I think it's just becauselike the only Eddie scenes
have Buck in them as well.
Pretty much.
We do get a couple, like we get,um, Bobby embracing him in the
hospital after Shannon has died.
We get the group hug when hencomes back to the 118 after,

(01:44:25):
um, like killing that cellist.
Do you remember she killed that cellist?
You know, the one that she wouldn'tstop talking about for a while?
Um,
yeah.
Did Hen kill someone?
Yes.
Couldn't remember.
Um, it just reminds me, I'm gonnasegue, but I mean, I'm gonna, um,
tangent because that's what we do.
Mm. But I've been, um, I've been listeningto the "Supernatural Then and Now"

(01:44:48):
podcast, and I think I already mentionedit, but the Rob and Rich are up to season
seven, with like when Dean kills Amy,and then the next episode is literally
half just flashbacks of Dean killing Amy.
And they're like, yeah,we get it, Dean kill.
Like, we don't care.
Why do we, why do they think we care?
And I just like, sameguys, like none of us know.

(01:45:09):
None of us have any idea.
And it's been several years now, likeit's probably been over a decade at
this point, and none of us know whywe were supposed to care about Amy.
They're like, it was this random kidthat Sam knew once, like, yeah, Dean
was a bit of a dick, but we don't care.
We, we don't care.
But we do care about these flashbacks.

(01:45:31):
We do care about these flashbacks.
So Eddie is thinking about everyonewho is near and dear to him, who is
his family, the family that he's chose.
We get the flashback of Shannon,um, like Shannon being dead.
Lovely thinkg to flash back on
saying that they're stillgonna be okay to Christopher.
No, no, no, no.
But we get the, the voiceoverof Shannon in the ambulance

(01:45:53):
going like, I'm leaving again.
And she, with the ambulance, she saidthat she wanted a little bit more time,
which now that we know what her note said.
Oh,
because we didn't know whatthe notes said back then.
And she wanted a little bit more time.
That's why she left.
And now she's sayingthough she wants more time.
It's like, oh my God.
So after watching like all the Shannonstuff and then going back to Shannon's

(01:46:16):
death episode, like you can see why Inoped out and just sobbed the whole time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's, yeah.
Like, there's just so muchabout Eddie and Shannon that is,
and Chris, that is so tragic.
Yeah.
But then we get the scene fromtriggers where Eddie says, uh,

(01:46:38):
that they might have lost Shannon,but they still have each other.
And then the rest of the montage is justChristopher, Christopher, Christopher.
Christopher Christopher.
Yeah.
God, I didn't realize that therewas, this montage was so long.
Um, most of it's from "Stuck".
Um, but yeah, it's just Christopher,Christopher, Christopher.
And then we get that clip from, um,Shannon back in El Paso in 2015, now

(01:47:03):
looking dead into the camera saying,"Eddie, Christopher needs you." And it's
at that memory that Eddie wakes up and hestarts fighting and you get the voice...
And I'm like, bawling by this point.
And we get the voice, we get the,the voiceover of "I'm always going
to fight to come home to my family."And so he starts swimming and he's

(01:47:27):
the drops his green neon green alienlight and swims away from the light.
And then he breaches the surface
and then we cut to the farmand it's the middle of nowhere.
This, this whole scene is just like,after going through all this trauma
beforehand, this scene made me laugh.
I have to say, this was the funniest shit.

(01:47:49):
It's so funny.
Yeah, it was so funny.
So he just comes to the surface ofthis pond basically that's nearby
and everyone else is standingaround looking really serious.
Like, "What are we gonna do?
Like, we're gonna have to,we're gonna have oxygen tanks
and warming blankets ready.
We're gonna start at the well,we're gonna make concentric circles.

(01:48:10):
We need to fan out."
Like Oliver looks like he's aboutto just, he's either gonna throw
up or burst into tears or both.
Yeah, they're, they'reall really super serious.
And then, um, then Eddie's voice justcomes over saying, "oh, it won't be easy."
And everyone's turning around, like...
No.
'cause they, they're going to, they're going to, the search and rescue are
gonna use thermal imaging to tryand pick up Eddie's heat signature.

(01:48:32):
And then you just get the voice going,"It won't be easy. I'm pretty cold."
And then just collapses.
And they all just, justlook at him and go, "Eddie?"
Buck and Bobby immediately runto him to like pick him up.
Oliver is looking athim like he's a ghost.

(01:48:54):
Yeah.
Like he just, his, his acting choice was,he does not believe that Eddie survived,
but he does have a big grin on his facewhen he picks him up and helps him hands
like, "oh, let's get you checked outso he can get you home." And Eddie's
like, "yeah, I got a big date on Friday.
I can't miss it,"

(01:49:18):
but the date on Friday,
What did he have Friday again?
Show and tell.
He can't miss it.
He promised,
he promised
he promised he would be there.
I'm honestly surprised, like whenI watched this, I was actually
surprised that in the classroom Buckwasn't with them for some reason.
Yeah.
Like, just like inexplicably atshow and tell, it's like, "this is

(01:49:41):
my dad and this is my dad's friendBuck." and everyone's like, ah,
why do you think Carla is recordingit so that Buck can watch it later?
She's not even recording it.
She's just FaceTiming Buck.
That's it.
She's just got the FaceTime open.
Yeah.
Um, I'm going to, I'm gonna assume thatit's a shift day and like they've just

(01:50:02):
Eddie's on like medical leave afterthe trauma that he just went through,
but Buck had to go back to work.
Yeah.
But yeah, Chris is, um, adorablyand I don't think that they would
ever let him do this, sitting on Ms.Flores's desk to give his presentation.
Um, and he's, and Eddie isstanding next to him, like reading

(01:50:25):
his script over his shoulder,
making sure that Christophersaid it correctly.
It's very cute.
He's so very proud of his son.
And, and like his faceis all scratched up from
Yeah.
His ordeal.
Chris finishes reading his script, which,you know, said, "and this is why the
Silver Star is one of the highest honorsa member of the armed forces can receive.

(01:50:48):
Now tell him how you got it, Daddy."
Yeah.
Eddie's like, oh right.
War appropriate storiesfor fourth graders.
So yeah, he, he lands on, he was in ahelicopter helping a wounded soldier
get back home and there was an accident.
Helicopter went down.
Yeah, I like how he goes.
There was an accident.
It's like, dude, you got shot down.
Yeah.
Not, it's not like we gotshot down by enemy combatants.

(01:51:10):
Like, it just, it justfell out of the sky.
That was an accident, Yeah.
And it, and it somehow ended up on fire.
I dunno how that happened.
Yeah.
But, um, Christopher goes, "Dad goteveryone out. He saved them all." Eddie
just brushes off with, he did his job.
And then we get one of the kids inthe, um, in the, the, the class, um,

(01:51:37):
which I think is a hilarious callbackto the beginning of the episode.
Put his hand up.
Eddie, did you ever wear it?
Yeah, like channelling Buck.
Yeah, because Buck is a fourth grader,
but Eddie gives exactly the sameanswer like right off the bat.
"I'm not a jewelry kind of guy."

(01:51:58):
Well, the first one was, I couldn'tfind anything to wear it with.
So I think he has like
Oh, that's right.
Like rotating.
Yeah.
He's got a series of answers.
He like three different answershe just keeps going through.
But he does wear the St. Christopher medal
when it's not falling off his neck.
Yes, yes.
He pulls it out his pocketthis time in his coat.

(01:52:19):
Yeah,
it's in his coat pocket.
Maybe he needs one of those.
Um, like permanent, you knowhow you can get jewelry that
gets like welded onto you?
Maybe he needs one of those.
The forever, um, jewelry.
Yeah.
Yeah, the forever jewelry.
He can have like a forever necklace,
but, um, but yeah, Ana asks ifit's, if the St. Christopher

(01:52:41):
medals, the, his Good Luck charm andEddie goes, "no, he is." And like
looks down at the actual Christopher.
Looks at Christopher.
Yeah.
And Oh, Christopher's so cute.
Did have we ever talked about the factthat, um, Gavin said in an interview that
when he was little, he used to call 9-1-1thinking that he could talk to Eddie.

(01:53:01):
Aw,
really?
Yeah, I, I saw that he, it was aninterview he did with Jennifer.
Yeah, it was with, um, Jennifer andit was just like, yeah, when he,
when he was little, like when hefirst started on the show, he got in
trouble 'cause he called 9-1-1 tryingto talk to Eddie and the others.
Oh, that's so sweet.

(01:53:21):
Yeah.
That's adorable.
Oh, he is so cute.
It's so trippy watching like the, thisseason and then going to season eight,
where is like a fullygrown, he's like a whole,
he's an an adult.
He's an actual, anactual whole person now.
He's almost as big as the babythat Shannon gave birth to

(01:53:43):
at the side of this episode.
Yeah.
See if his birthday really is2011, then he's the same age as
my teenager, so I ha I can relate.
So apart from being absolutelytraumatized multiple times, Ellen,

(01:54:05):
how did you find "Eddie Begins"?
No, I, I thought it was a great episode.
Like, so much tension in like, uh,sort of woven several storylines
together in a really satisfying way.
It, if, if you can count, beingtraumatized is satisfying.

(01:54:26):
Um, but no, I, I really, I thought itwas a great, very well made episode.
And I'm glad I, I, I can understandwhy Eddie wanted to, you know, move.
Well, I don't know if we reallyfind out the exact reasons why
he decided to move to LA but I'mglad, I'm really glad that he did.
'cause then he,

(01:54:46):
I'm pretty sure LA like was it was becausehe had family there and also because, um,
probably as far away fromhis parents as he could get.
Yeah.
But also because Shannon was therebecause like it is mentioned when Shannon
comes back that he'd been there for likeseveral months and not contacted her.
Yeah.
And she
lived like right up the road or something.

(01:55:07):
Yeah,
Yeah.
Like it was a, because I think it's Carlagave gives him shit over it or something.
Yeah.
Like we were saying, saying earlier, like,uh, because she's been, he, he, he'd just
been through so much and then for him totake that further leap to actually move
to California is pretty major like, butI'm glad that he took that leap of faith

(01:55:29):
and um, did it because then he actuallyfound his chosen family in the end.
So
he's better family, family thatactually helps way that he needs
to be helped not the way thatthey think he needs to be helped.
Yeah.
And then yes, future husband.

(01:55:51):
Yeah.
No, I liked it.
I'm not looking forward to seeingmore episodes about his parents now,
because at the moment I don't hatethem, but I mean, they're annoying.
Um, maybe that will change.
Yeah, I don't think I had reallyany notes about his parents
the first time I watched.
Just like I don I definitely had a note.

(01:56:12):
Where is it?
Yeah.
Saying Shannon deserved better.
Yeah.
Uh, Helena has alwaysrubbed me the wrong way.
Never liked her as a character.
No.
Ramon comes and goes, like sometimesI think, oh no, he's not so bad.
And then I'll remember somethinglike, oh no, he's just as bad.

(01:56:33):
All right.
Tell me what's happening next week then.
Uh, so next week,
well, the summary's, not surewhat's happening next week.
So
a minor accident leads Athenato a more sinister case.
Um, the 118 fight an apartment buildingblaze and attempts a daring rescue
of a, the promo says blind woman.

(01:56:55):
Um, she's not blind, she's deaf.
So that's a whoopsie.
Oh geez.
Um, oh my God.
Attempts a daring rescue of a, ofa disabled woman trapped inside.
Um, when Athena responds to a simpleaccident call, she discovers a
potentially more sinister crime.
Meanwhile, Hen performs a risky medicalprocedure after an accident at a

(01:57:18):
televised cooking show, and Buck meetsretired firefighter and is inspired to
reuni reunite him with his lost love.
Wow.
Did that just describe the whole,
well, I don't remember it.
The whole plot of the episode?
Okay.
That's, that's pretty much.

(01:57:38):
Well, it's the main plot is Buck and theretired firefighter and the other plots
are the subplots kind of swirling around.
Oh, so Buck's is the main plot.
'cause Buck's the only bit that Iremember, and so I was like, oh, like
I remember the B plot and nothing else.
But no, it is the A plot.
Okay, cool.
Yeah, that is the A Buck's is theA plot, but the B and C plot are

(01:58:04):
to get a little bit like heading intospoiler territory, are storylines that
become more important so they come back?
Yeah, they have to mention, theyhave to mention them because they
are the seeds that grow throughoutthe next couple of episodes,
whatever's left.
Right.
Okay.
Yeah.
But basically Buck the Buck storyline,which is, I hate this episode, not because

(01:58:26):
it's a bad episode, but because I justfeel so badly for Buck in this episode.
Yeah.
Right.
Which we can talk more about next week.
Oh, we might need sometriggers just in case.
Yep.
Very quickly, let's just trigger offnext week's we've got a structure fire,

(01:58:48):
um, with threat to disabled person.
We have mentions of cancer.
We have a character with dementia.
Um, we have a home invasion.
We have big trigger warningfor, um, sexual violence.
Um, we have a minor character death anda patient death due to medical error.

(01:59:11):
Oh, no.
Yeah.
Some people are actuallygonna die in this one?
We didn't have, and no, everyonelived in the last episode.
No one important.
Yeah, no one important.
Isn't that great?
No one imp.
Okay.
Ellen's gonna finally watchthis episode and be like, oh,
oh, that's what that's about.

(01:59:34):
But then she won't fully understand it.
No, because it's a meme now.
Yes.
Alright.
After I watch it, you'll haveto send me all the memes.
No, can't because it'slike season 8 memes.
Damn it.
Okay.
Eventually I might catch up.

(01:59:56):
I think we need to just like compilea list of all the things like, so in,
um, like season three episode, blah, wewere talking about this, this is what
it relates to, just to catch you all up.
What you mean how Eddie has a silver star?
Yeah.
And he'd never done anything illegal.

(02:00:17):
All right.
So let us know what you thought.
Like I'm sure this, thisepisode must bring up a lot
of things for a lot of people.
Um, or at least a lot of, have alot of feelings about it, I'm sure.
So let us know what you thought.
Uh, you can also at this point,let us know what you thought
of season three altogether.
'cause we are gonna be doing ourwrap up episode in a few weeks time.

(02:00:41):
Yeah, we're almost at the end.
Yeah.
Not too many episodes to go.
So there's 18 altogether, right?
So we've got three episodesto go after this one.
Far out.
And then we'll do the wrap up after that.
So you can send us your season threefeedback, preferably in an email
or, um, via DM so we can collate it.

(02:01:02):
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All of that is on thatweewooshow.com.
Including all the waysthat you can contact us.
They're all listed there.
So, uh, thank you for listeningthis week and we will talk to you
next time about episode 16, whichis called "The One That Got Away".

(02:01:26):
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(02:02:08):
And I'm Bex.
Yeah, you are remembered your name today.
So proud of you.
Oh my.
I don't even know where to go from there.
Um,
that one's going straightinto the outtakes.