3.18: What’s Next?

In this episode of That Weewoo Show, Bex, Ellen, and Alice discuss season 3, episode eighteen of 9-1-1, titled "What's Next?" The 118 rush to save lives in the aftermath of a massive train derailment.

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Episode Transcript

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9-1-1. What's your emergency?
Welcome back to That Weewoo Show, apodcast where we watch and discuss
episodes of the A B, C show, 9-1-1.
I'm Bex.
I'm Alice.
And I'm Ellen.
As always, thank you to everybodywho has listened to our episodes,
who shared social media posts andrated us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify,

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or wherever else you can rate us.
And special shout out to everyonewho has left comments on any
of our social media platforms.
This week's, um, special CaramelloKoala award goes to celticwitch on
YouTube who left us a note on ourepisode of "Eddie Begins", um, sharing

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some perspectives that she had found onTumblr with regards to the infamous juice
box scene with Eddie and his mother.
So thank you very much forsharing that perspective.
As we said in the comments,that's not something that we had
really considered when we werewatching it, and you are correct.
It is amazing how differentexperiences color, how we view

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different characters and scenes.
Everyone's perception and everyone'slived experiences bring and
different, um, different ideas tothe table, different perceptions
when watching, uh, consuming media.
Thank you.
Thank you.
So before we get on to seasonthree finale, um, Alice, could you

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remind us what happened last week?
Yeah, big one last week.
Uh, so Athena was badly injured in a fightwith a serial rapist before Bobby and
Michael destroyed the Bathena fireplace.
Uh, Karen accused Hen of cheating,causing Hen to reveal she's
thinking about going to med school.
And the episode ended with a hugetrain derailment, which was reported

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by a previous 9-1-1 dispatcher, Abby,
Abby returns!
Dun dun dun.
So this episode, the finale, episode18, has the title, "What's Next?" Um,
it first aired on the 11th of May, 2020.

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Which we've actually shifted by a coupleof days, I think and we are not actually
in tune in line with it this, this week.
I dunno what's happened.
Maybe we're recording earlier than usual.
Yeah, we're doing Fridayinstead of Sunday.
Okay.
I was like, wait a minute.
Don't we normally lineup at the moment, but no.
May 11th.
Um, and the official summary says the118 rush to the scene of a train crash.

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Uh, they rush to save lives in theaftermath of a massive train derailment.
Um, that's it, that's all she wrote.
Yeah.
Um, that's basicallyeverything that happens in this
episode.
Which makes it seem like a much,much bigger deal than it actually
turns out to be in this episode.
Yeah, I mean the, there is a, a sumof the, the beginning of the episode,

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which is dedicated to the actual trainderailment, but the, but the rest
of it is just rescuing everybody.
So I guess that is thebulk of the episode.
No, but even like the, like "the 118rushes to rescue," it makes it seem like
the rescue is gonna be a much bigger deal
than two people?
Yeah.
Then in my opinion that Yeah.
Than two people.
In my opinion, it does not live upto the expectations that are set

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right by the, uh, the teaser thatwe got at the end of last episode.
But it was emotionally
we'll get to that.
frought by the fact, bywho the person is, but
we'll get to that
anyway.
Um,
oh, I've got thoughts about that too.
Don't you worry about that.
Okay.
So before we start, we have to mention,
Meanwhile, I have thoughts about thescent detection dog, but you know,
we, we have to, we'll getthere, we'll get there.

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Um, we gotta say the triggers first.
That's what we do.
Um, we've got the mention of cancer.
We have a discussion of rape, wehave flashbacks to the assault
that happened in the previousepisode, I assume that's Athena.
Yep.
Yeah.
Mass injury and fatalities,including children at threat and
a trail derailment, which causes alot of destruction and people die.

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But we, we don't start right from the,where we left off in the previous episode.
We've got a bit of a,
of course not
a bit of a David Wallace...
We never do
to get to know firstbefore the train comes.
So we are going, the first scene is onthe train before the accident happens.
Uh, we have Elvis playing, wehave Mystery train from by Elvis.

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I don't know this song from the titleand I can't remember how it goes.
But anyway,
something about a train.
Yeah, I don't know.
Uh, there's a bunch of like, possiblystereotypical train passengers on this,
in this carriage, you have a young personwho is making too much noise and we
have older people who are annoyed by it.

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Which seems like a fixtureof every train journey.
Yeah.
Um, and but the, the, the young personwho's making the noise is like a, a
young lady who is drumming on the backof seat, which is just really, I can
understand why the guy is really annoyed.
We do have to mention that the youngwoman who is doing the drumming

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is Rumer Willis, who is BruceWillis and Demi Moore's daughter.
Really?
I had no idea that that's who it wasuntil I was just reading the notes then.
Wow.
And she also appeared in, um, docOdyssey not so long ago, and I was in
the chat with Alice when I was watchingit going Genetics is so fucking weird

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because Rumer Willis is Bruce Willis'skull shape with Demi Moore's face.
Oh.
I'm gonna have to go backand have a look at her now.
Oh, that's so funny.
Um, but she does not get aname in this entire thing.
I'm pretty sure she has a name, 'causeit comes up in the closed captions.

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But, um, it does not get utteredat all in the episode, so.
Oh.
She's either gonna be drummergirl or Rumer Willis, depending
on what we wanna call her.
Okay.
As we're discussing this.
Fair enough.
Abby is also in this carriage forshortly, not for long time, for a
little bit, but she gets up and, um.

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She looks mildly annoyed by the thegirl who, by the drummer girl as well.
But she walks through the carriagesto the dining car where she's gonna go
to the bar and get a drink, apparently
my notes just said, "I'm surethis train won't meet a terrible
end" with a smiley face.
Well, we've already seen the terribleend, so we know it's coming up.

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Exactly.
We know it makes a terrible end.
No, I'm sure it's a different train.
This one will be fine.
Uh, there's some rowdy people inthe dining car who've got their
feet up on the, on the di, likethe divider between the booths.
Like, I don't know.
They're just being
stupid.
not even just their feet, their bare feet.
Oh.
Like they've taken their shoesoff and put their feet up.

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The bartender is so unprofessionalhere though, like, so she, she
asks Abby what she can get Abby.
And as Abby's placing the order, thebartender starts yelling at the guy like,
wait till you, she's done the order.
It's not gonna destroy the trainif they've got their feet up.
Like, what the fuck guys?
Anyway, super unprofessional.

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But Abby orders a sidecar ona train 'cause she's a sucker.
Apparently.
Uhhuh and then Abby just,
I don't know what's in a sidecar.
I don't know what a sidecar is either.
I didn't look it up.
I think it's a fairly classic cocktail,but I don't, I'm not sure either.
Cognac based apparently.
Mm-hmm.
It is cognac, orange lcuand fresh lemon juice.

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With a sugared rim.
That sounds pretty nice.
It's very fancy for a train.
But yeah, Abby tells the bartender thatat a Ukrainian wedding, the bride has
to keep her shoes on because otherwisethe guests will steal them and drink
wine out of them for good luck.
And in Australia, that's called a shoey.
That just sounds like a shoey.

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Although we're not drinking wine.
It's generally beer.
We're drinking beer.
Yeah.
Uh, whenever I hear about peopledoing that, I'm like, torn between
like, yay culture and like,
oh, it's disgusting.
So revolting.
It's so gross,
so revolting.
Oh no.

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So like Australian culture isdrinking like fermented hops
out of someone's used footwear.
Yeah, used footwear.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's one of my exes
when like, we broke upand then like he what?
Like we tried to make it work againafter a while and he was telling me how
like at he went to something and dida shoey and it gave me immediate ick.

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And I was just like,yeah, no, we're done here.
That's fair.
Like, no, not happening.
That's disgusting.
Um,
my ex, I can't remember the exactstory, but it was either he did
a shoey or he watched a guy do ashoey out of his prosthetic limb.
Oh my god.
Well, that's probably marginallymore hygienic than a shoe.

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Oh, I don't know.
Because they got like the stumpsitting in there and it's like
getting sweaty and hot and
Oh, okay.
There's usually a sock, but yeah.
No, that, no,
no, no.
That's disgusting.
No.
Um, so getting away from shoeys, um, weget a bit of exposition here where the

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bartender asks Abby why she's on a train.
Like why is she taking the traininstead of flying, I guess.
Um, and she says she spent a lot oftime in Europe and fell in love with
train travel and the bartender'slike, "Well, this is Phoenix to la
it isn't exactly the Orient Express."
And Abby just says, "Well,Phoenix is home, and LA used to be

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home." So it's like that doesn'tanswer the question, but sure.
Okay.
And when the bartender asks ifsomeone's waiting for her at LA,
she says "No, because he stoppedwaiting for me a long time ago."
Oh.
And we cut immediately to Buckwho was reading a brochure about

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Summer Camp of Eddie's son.
Yeah, no Buck's not going on summer camp.
Chris,
I just love that she's like,
Chris wants to go to summer camp.
She's talking to the bartenderabout, "he stopped waiting for me"
and then it cuts immediately to Buckand Eddie talking about summer camp,
about their son going to summer camp.
About,
ah, perfect.

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Yeah.
Apparently Eddie brought thebrochures to the station house so
that the, um, the 118 could talkhim into letting Christopher go.
However, Buck is immediately on the,"you cannot let him go to summer camp.
That's two weeks away from home.
What if something happens?
What if he gets home sick?"
Like, our child is too young for that.

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What are you doing?
Oh, he's so concerned.
So while this conversation is goingon in the background, Eddie is timing
Hen doing a test of some kind andthen while everyone else continues
talking, he is grading her test for her.
Mm-hmm.

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Um, and Chim and Bobby arecooking dinner as well.
So that's just, that's whathappening on the background, so Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know if Chim's helpingor if he's just eating like bits.
He looks like he's helping.
Okay.
I mean that's pretty muchwhat I was doing tonight.
I think that's, mom was like, canyou help come help me with dinner?
And I spent the whole timefeeding beans to the birds.

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So,
but isn't that the prerogativeof being a sous chef?
You get to like snack as you're cooking.
Yeah, totally.
Or the actual chef.
Um.
Bobby is very firmly on proc camp becausehe apparently is a seasoned camper.
Started going to sleep away campwhen he was eight, including slightly

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probably racist slash culturalappropriation camp name and yodeling?
Yeah, he's doing the thing.
He's getting so excited andI'm like, oh dad, come on.
Like, what, what did the, um,what did the yodeling sound like?
Bex, do you wanna demonstrate?
Does anyone wanna try doing the, yodel?

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Fuck no.
If you wanna hear what the hell yodelingsounds like the episodes are available
on possibly a streamer of your choice.
You can look it up.
We will put the timestamp in the, onin the episode notes, so you can go
straight to that part of the episode.
I'm not even gonnaattempt to, uh, to do it.

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And yeah, he, he looked forward toit every year, but, and Chim's saying
like, "Chris is a city kid," and Bobby'slike, "St Pauls is a city." Chim's
like, "If you say so," it's like,dude, not every city is as big as LA
um, but Hen's just trying to imaginetrying to sell Denny on the idea

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of two weeks without the internet.
Yeah, my kids would never survive.
Eddie gives Hen's paper back to herand she is disappointed with her
results because she only scored a 504and she wanted a five 11 or above.

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Um, and Eddie's trying to reassureher that her score was pretty good.
Um, and she says that getting intomedical school at this point in
her life is gonna be hard enough.
She can't afford to be average.
She needs to be an exceptional applicant,which starts off a ring of everyone
praising Hen and telling her thatshe's gonna be great and she's gonna

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get in and it's gonna be awesome.
Yeah, except like when they getaround to Chim, everyone just
looks at him and he's like, "what?"
Except then he goes, he sort ofrolls his eyes a bit and goes, "Hen,
you're brilliant. You don't need totest to prove it." So he's obviously
still not on board with the idea ofher leaving to go and do medicine.

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No.
Yeah, he's still a little salty.
No.
Um, but Hen gets distracted from her, likeaverage test results by her phone because
Athena has texted her to ask if they canhold May's graduation party at the Karen
and Hen household, which she asks Bobby,like, "Bobby, why is your wife asking

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if I can host May's graduation party?"
And Bobby's like, "Um, our living roomis kind of under construction right now."
Since I heard that, I'm like, oh no,they've, they've trashed the house.
Oh no.
Uh, so we cut to the Athena constructionsite and Athena's not happy.

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And as, as predicted,Athena is not pleased.
She's like, "I was in the hospital forfour days and you two lost your minds."
See, I don't know whether she's madbecause they destroyed her house
or whether they destroyed her houseright before she's expecting 50 people

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over to her house to host a party.
Yeah, yeah.
Like if they'd done it at abetter, like during better
timing, she's like, yeah, okay.
Whatever.
Perhaps maybe, maybe,
I mean, it's probably a bit of both.
Probably would've admitted that sheprobably would've admitted at another
time that she too hated that fireplace.
But how is she going to put on,you know, um, keeping up with the
Joneses if, you know, she's got aconstruction zone in her living room.

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May's trying to make her feel betterby saying like, "We don't need to have
a party. Like, you just got out thehospital. It's okay." And, but Athena is
insisting that she has to have a partyand cake and photographs with a fireplace
that does not look like a pile of rubble.
I love that Harry immediately comesin and goes like, do you need to

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like take any more of it down?
"Do you need to finish takingit down? 'cause I can help."
Yeah, he's keen.
He, he wants to swing that hammer too.
And Athena's like, "no, no,you are not touching it.
Your father broke it and he's gonna fixit." And Michael's like, "okay, this is
my exit." He's like, "yes, I will fix it.
I will go home right now.
I will do some sketches and I will fixit." And he starts to like flee the house.

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And just then Hen has texted back tosay that there's not enough room at her
place for parking for all of her guests.
So May reiterates at this point,look, we don't need a party.
And Harry's like, "since when did younot want a party?" And May immediately
just throws her father under thebus and going like, "Dad, didn't

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you have a doctor's appointment?"
Like, I'm gonna deflect all theattention to Michael who freezes on
the stairs like a deer in headlights.
Um, yeah.
So Michael's results are in, andAthena offers to go with him.
But Michael's like, "No, no. Thedoctor's gonna go over the scans with
me and then we will know what's next."

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The words!
I don't have any alcohol with me tonight.
Um, who wrote this episode Bex?.
You mean you can't guess?
I did not think that she would.
She did that in this episode.
It doesn't until I had to sit down.
I don't think it happens a lot.
Sit down and go through the... butit happens enough to make it obvious,

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especially it happens in pairs.
Yeah.
Like this is not, it's like oneperson will say what's next?
And another person, their line ofdialogue will immediately have what's
next in their line of dialogue.
Like in case anybody's wondering, thisis a Kristin Reidel co written episode.
Yeah.
But we've got Juan Carlos,I've forgotten his name.

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Sorry, who's the, what'sthe other guy's name?
Juan Carlos Coto.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But apparently Kristin wrote the dialogue.
Yeah.
But he's excellent at writing likethe the tense kind of action scenes.
Right.
I seem to remember that from otherepisodes of his, so at least we've
got some good stuff in betweenthe awkward dialogue, maybe

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can be in between the, theblatant episode title Shoutouts.
Yeah.
So yeah, he tells her that, you know,the doctor's gonna go over the scans
and then we'll know what's next.
And Athena says, "Good news, that'swhat's next." It's like, okay.
Okay.
She's, she's still mad, butshe's determined at least
it's gonna be good news.

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She's still mad, but heneeds to fix her fireplace.
He can't die of cancer beforehe fixes her fireplace.
Yeah.
I am sorry too much?
Well, I mean, we know whathappens in the end, so it's okay.
I guess
so that's why I'm happy to joke about it.

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Um, but then we go to dispatch.
So Josh is um, has done his victim impactstatement and apparently he did a lot of
research on the do's and don'ts of it.
And Maddie's like, "yeah.
Like it's very thorough.
And when I read this, I knowexactly what Greg did to you.
What I don't understand ishow you feel about any of it."

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Yeah.
Josh can't understand why that matters.
It's like it's an impact statement, Josh.
That's the whole point.
It's a victim impact statement.
Yeah.
You have to say how it impacted you.
They know what he did, butlike, what's it done to you?
Yes.
I like how Mady says, "Is this reallywhat you wanna say to him?" And
Josh says, "I think the judge willdiscourage the use of curse words,"

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but yeah, she tells him itshould come from his heart.
So, and then just then Maddielets out this huge yawn.
And, um, Josh is so, he's like,"I'm trying not to be offended,"
but his face is so offended.
I'm sorry.
Am I boring?

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Is me and my, my tragicstruggles boring you.
Yeah.
Um, and yeah, it didn't occur tome that this was anything weird.
Like at the time it was weird.
I was like, why is she tired?
But we didn't get any results.
'cause it should,
any resolution to that?
No, I.
Immediately,
I'm gonna put a pin in this 'causeI have thoughts on this too, and

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many thoughts on this episode.
Oh my God.
Okay.
Uh, so meanwhile, back at the train,um, Abby's still at the bar and
the drummer girl is still drumming,
except the old guy in front of herhas finally cracked the shits and has
basically told her that she needs to stop.

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But she's got a huge show at the Roxy.
Right?
So she, he doesn't care though.
She needs to just to stop.
The other guy who was up inthe carriage with them, who
we later find out is, is Sam.
And he's very... why thehell did I put Greg there?
I'm like, who is Greg?

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Oh my God.
Um, I call him Subway throughoutthe entire episode because
he plays Subway in Community.
Oh,
okay.
And he plays Keith in Scrubs.
Oh.
So he's a, I about to say he getsaround, but, so he is a working actor.
Yeah.
I think I recognize himfrom Scrubs actually.
Like considering in both ofthose he, yeah, like he, he gets

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around is a good way to put it.
Um, but yeah, Community, he literallyplays Subway, like the, the restaurant
chain, like the fast food chain.
Yeah.
Like he plays Subway.
His name is Subway.
Right.
Okay.
Um, but no, we later findout that this is Sam.
Um.
He kind of tries to talk the older manoff his ledge, um, tries to calm him down.

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Just
in, in the driver's, um, compartmentof the train, the engine, I'm guessing,
the driver, um, is, you know, tryingto stop the train, but there's
sparks in the wheels and the, the,the brakes aren't working, working,
basically, yes.
The signal, the signal box is sparking andlike, instead of being like, the part that

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switches the, where the track is gonnago is just like rocking back and forth.
The points, yeah, the points areelectronically controlled, but
the signal box that's controllingthe points is just out of control.
So the points are moving backwardsand forwards, which means that
the train is not going to godown one track or down the other.
It's just, it's, it's not gonnabe good as the driver says.

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Mm-hmm.
So, yeah, he slams on the brakes.
Um, but, you know, a train going thatfast, it's gonna take it a while to
slow down and, uh, it does not slowdown before it hits the, the points.
And so chaos ensues, there's lotsof flashing lights with a train

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whistle, brakes screeching, people getthrown around the, the camera spins.
Um, it's all very dramatic.
Yeah.
And we see the, the train derailed,but then we, we are going to jump
back in time for the second timebecause this is like the, the second
time we saw the train crash and nowwe're gonna go for a third time.

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It's been way too long since wehad a weird 9-1-1 time jump time.
This episode is very timey wimey, sowe're going back 10 minutes before
I swear it's a model train set becauseI cannot see when they do those big,
um, overhead shots of the crash site.

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There is no like tunnel, brickedup tunnel with little trees around.
I swear I watched this and went, oh,so we're doing like a closeup of a
train set and it's gonna be someonelike playing with a model train set and
that's gonna be, you know, something todo with the big train coming through.
But either they lost that footage, it gotcut or someone went, shit, we need some

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establishing footage of like this RV park.
We forgot to get some.
I know!
Tim just ran down to his basementwhere he is, got a giant model train
set, set up and just took footage ofthat and chucked it in the episode.
I dunno, because at this point TimMinear is editing these episodes

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in his house so they can't goout and do it anymore shooting.
Oh yeah, 'cause Covid.
So Covid hit it this like,he, they stopped filming.
They stopped filmingaround January, February.
And then Tim has said in aninterview that he just stayed at
home to edit the last four episodes.

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Oh my God.
Really?
Well that explains a few things.
It really does, doesn't it?
Like why there is a shot of amodel train set in this episode.
Well, I, he did great.
He did a great job.
If he was doing it at home, his own, don'tthey employ like editors to do stuff?

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Like why was he doing it?
I don't know, but that's what he said.
Although, I don't know howmuch you can believe what Tim
says, but that's what he said.
Okay.
That he was editing it at homeor maybe he was like doing the
final edits of it or something.
But somebody, I swear somebody tooktheir camera or went down to a model
train set to get the establishingfootage for the RV park and they

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just hoped that nobody would notice.
Yeah.
Unfortunately they did not count on you.
Yeah, I was gonna say, they didn'tcount on you Eagle-eyes Bex.
Um, so there's a, a man and a kid whoare working on a car in the RV park.
So they, they're working on acar and they managed to get it
to turn over and everything.

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Then all of a sudden Donatello appears.
So this is a guy who, whowas in Supernatural as
the, the Prophet Donatello.
Um, and he's not a ninja title as
his name is Keith.
Insert something Polishthat I cannot pronounce.
Okay.
Um, but yeah,
is Donatello the prophetwho's actually an atheist?
I don't think Donatello was an atheist.

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I can't remember.
He was a Donatello was the guy wholiked, liked the fried chicken.
Yes.
I'm pulling up the Wiki.
He was the guy who lost his soul.
And then,
yeah.
No, Donatello, he's an atheistand then he becomes a prophet and
they're just like, yeah, not anymore.
Yeah.

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And then, yeah, I knew he lost his soul.
So yes.
Donatello the prophet,not the Ninja Turtle.
Um,
yeah, but that's not his name in this.
No, I mean, I think his name isRory, but, um, I've just called him
Donatello throughout this entire thing.
Yeah, me too.
He is the manager of the RV park.

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Yep.
Or caretaker or
angry guy of the RV park.
Yeah, he's, he's not, he's not pleasant.
Um, I think the engine that the, the dadand the kid were fixing was the engine of
their RV and Donatello wants to know nowthat they've got the RV up and running,

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are they just going to sneak out ofthe park without paying because they've
been there for three nights, which theyhave not paid, and he wants them gone.
And he tells 'em if they, they theyneed to leave or he'll have them towed.
I like how, he's like, I want mymoney, but just leave without my money.
Like what?
Yeah, but we, I don't think that theyhave the money to pay anyway, because we

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get the next little snippet of dialogueis the, um, the kid who has been trying
really hard not to be caught listeningto this conversation, uh, shows his
dad an empty jar of peanut butter andsays that they're, they're all out.
And the dad says, "Okay, cool. Um,there's a food bank not too far. We'll go

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there in the morning to get more food."
Yeah.
Apparently there's a bit more to it thanthat because he goes out, he follows
Donatello to his place and he says, "Youcan't, you can't, you can't do this to us.
You told me I had a week to find a job."
Well, he said that he neversaid that he had a week.

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Yeah, "I never said that to you.You pay, you stay. Those are the
rules." Like, I'm, I'm confused.
Um,
anyway, Donatello seemslike a bit of a dick
we're all confused,
he's laughing at the man notbeing able to find a job.
Um, the man says that he followed himin because his, because his son like
shouldn't have to see his father beg.
"But I'm always telling him, just keepyour head up. Uh, keep your head up.

(29:17):
'cause if you don't, you won't seeall the good things that are coming."
All through this conversation.
We can hear the train, which I'm guessingis supposed to be just like normal
background noise because the RV park isright on the train line, but the train
whistle is getting louder and louder andlouder as this conversation continues.

(29:38):
Mm. Yeah.
Then we get more.
What's next-ing.
The man says, "I don't know what's next."And Donatello starts shouting at him.
Um, "What's next is reality!"It's like this, this doesn't
even make any sense way.
It's a really weird conversation.
It doesn't matter,
but it doesn't matter becauseimmediately the train puts an end to

(30:02):
the stupid conversation by crashingright through the middle of the cabin.
So bye.
And taking Donatello out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Immediately through Donatello.
Uh, the dad survives it.
He's fine.
It's just one half of thecabin got taken out, I guess.
And, um,
yes.
So he just, it's just Donatello.

(30:23):
Everyone else is fine.
He is like running out, run outside tolook for his son, but the, his like,
their RV is not there anymore becausethe train carriages have wiped it out.
And once again, we get a very,very long shot of the devastation
of the train derailment.

(30:43):
Does this one look likethe model train set?
I'm questioning.
No, I had, I don't know, but atthis point I'm going, what went
wrong with this episode that weare getting so much shots of this.
Because this is starting to geta little bit ridiculous now.
So the train has crashed through the rv.

(31:05):
We've got Donatello taken out.
There's absolute devastation.
We go to commercial and when we comeback we are nowhere near the trains.
Yeah.
So we do have like two actualparallel storylines in this episode.
Right.
Which are unrelated in any way.
And as you mentioned when youwere first watching this episode,
it's a real like disconnect.

(31:28):
Yeah.
'cause they're not like, there'sno, there's no excellent segues.
I don't think like we've hadin other episodes where things
have been tangentially related.
This is just Athena with all ofher case files working on her case.
And then, and the, the 118 are atthe train thing and they, they,
they chop sort of back and forthwithout really being related at all.

(31:50):
Yeah.
And it um, it disruptsthe flow of the episode.
'cause you get the high tension ofthe 118 and then you're back with
Athena just sitting in the kitchen.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like it's important tosee Athena's recovery.
I just wish we'd got itearlier in the season.
It's an important storyline.
I just, I don't know that it shouldhave been cut into this episode.

(32:14):
Yeah.
Either A at all or b, theway that they have done it.
Yeah.
But anyway, so, um, Athena is having ameeting with a victim's advocate, which
is apparently somebody who helps victimsof crime go to trial and testify in court.

(32:36):
She's come to Athena because Athenais like not supposed to be working
'cause she's still on leave.
Yeah.
She's got her the files spread outall over the table and May comes in
and says, "Are those all your realtorrapist files?" And Athena's like,
"Please don't call him that." Weren't wesaying that last week, like, don't name

(32:57):
the guy, he doesn't need a nickname.
Yeah, 'cause that's what themedia were calling him, yeah..
So, yeah.
She says that Dr. Sanford is coming, who'sgonna help all of them get through it.
Yeah.
And the emphasis of "it's gonnahelp all of them." The, the
very specific emphasis there.
Yeah.

(33:18):
As in she's not one of them yet.
Yeah.
Like, not us, them.
Like, yes.
Dr. Sanford is played by BrookeShields in this episode, which is just
the most random thing because theydon't use her at all in this episode.

(33:40):
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's weird.
I feel like when they, um, likeopened the door, there should have
been like the sitcom, like applausewhen it shows Brooke Shields.
Maybe I've just seenher in Friends too much.
There's so much waste in this episodethat brought, there's so many casting
choices and characters brought inthat just get wasted in this episode.

(34:03):
And Brooke Shields is one of those.
Yeah, well, she fully just sits thereand talks to Athena the whole time.
That and, yeah, yeah.
So she welcomes her into the houseand she says, "Oh, pardon our dust.
While I was out my home turned intoa remodeling show and it's not done."

(34:24):
That's a nice way of saying like, myhusband lost his mind along with my ex.
My, no, it's not even
"my husbands,"
my husbands, like myhusband and my ex-husband.
Yeah.
Which would've just been awhole nother conversation.
Um, so they go into the kitchen andCara, Dr. Sanford looks surprised to

(34:46):
see all of the files on the table,and asks and says to Athena, "Oh,
you have the case files for the othervictims." Athena is like, "Yeah.
Just, you know, so I can, ifyou've got any specific questions,
I can help you talk throughall of the different victims."
And Dr. Sanford's faceis just like, oh shit.
Sure.
All right, let's, let's do this.

(35:08):
It's like she's still working
like, this is not what I'm here for,but okay, we're gonna have to go slow.
Fine.
Let's do this.
We then get the literal teaserfrom the last episode repeated.
Being the 9-1-1 call, and it'salmost exactly shot for shot.

(35:30):
It's like Tim's just cut theteaser from last week and
dropped it into this episode.
The only difference is that whenAbby is talking, because we now know
that it's Abby, we get a front shot.
We don't just see her from the backto get the, the big dramatic reveal.
Yeah.
It's, yeah.
And we can cut him some slack, becauseobviously if he's doing it in his

(35:51):
basement or whatever in his home office,
I just feel like he's, you know, flakedout on the couch with an oodie on,
uh, those Covid days
or a slanket as Chimneywould've wanted us to call it.
A slanket.
Yeah,
I don't know.
It's just

(36:13):
so, yeah.
So that he's used up time by insertingthe 9-1-1 call from the last episode
so that, you know, we remember thatthere was a 9-1-1 call that went in
and it was a very good 9-1-1 call.
And then that leads into Maddie, ofcourse, dispatching the 118 to the scene.

(36:33):
Yeah.
So they've got a sort of incidentsent, like, you know, camp set up.
They've got a commander who's incharge of sending people to different
bits of the, of the disaster.
More houses are on route, search dogs,folks are trapped in the passenger cars.
So Bobby sends Buck andEddie to go have a look.

(36:55):
Yeah, they've got one of the traincarriages is literally vertical and the
incident commander says that they'vegot reports of people being trapped
up there, but they can't get to them.
So the Bobsy twins get sent tocheck that out while everybody
else works on the ground.
What's USAR?

(37:15):
Uh, Urban Search and Rescue.
Oh, okay.
As opposed to like, so search andrescue in the city sort of area
as opposed to like out in the,the forest's search and rescue.
Oh, cool.
But I only know that becauseof the earthquake episode where
they were talking about USARand I had no idea what it meant.
Oh, there we go.
So there we go.

(37:37):
So here's where things start to get fun,because as Buck and Eddie are heading
toward the train carriage, they walk pasttwo firefighters from, I'm gonna say two
from the 1 53, but we don't actually knowwhere the other one is from restraining
a woman who is trying to get into thetrain carriage that is vertical and

(37:59):
begging them to let her get into that car.
Um, and Eddie, for dramatic reasonsdecides that even though these two
men clearly have it under control,he's gonna step in and he's going
to try and talk this woman down.
Yeah.
And he's like, "I'm sorry ma'am,we can't let you get inside.
It's dangerous." And the womanshe is, Abby is like, "I know it's

(38:22):
dangerous, but I need to get in there."
Um, and Buck either summoned becauseEddie has gone too far away from
him, so he needs to come back withinrange or because he heard Abby's
voice just freezes in the background.
Um, and Abby kind of realizes at the sametime, because she looks at Eddie's helmet

(38:46):
and goes, "wait, are you from the 118?"And that's where Buck looks over and
goes, "Abby?" Just as Abby says, "Buck?"
Eddie's in the middle of it going,who the fuck are you dickheads?
It's like, I'm Eddie.
Like we're doing introductions.
Hi.
Yeah, but he, he knows who Abby is.

(39:10):
'cause like guaranteed thatBuck's told him all about,
but he's probably, he mightnever have seen a photo.
Um, yeah,
but like, as soon as Buck said Abby,he's probably like, oh God, here we go.
That's probably like the, "the ab Wait,the, the Abby, like the Abby, Abby?"
Abby, Abby?
Thee Abby?

(39:30):
Abby, Abby?
Um, Buck immediately tries todrag Abby off to get checked out
is like, "Wait, you were on thetrain. You gotta get checked out."
And she's, it's this, it's this weirdlike pulling backwards and forwards.
He's literally trying toyank her in one direction.
She's pulling out of his grip andtrying to push past Eddie to get

(39:53):
back to that train carriage, Buck'scircling back around in front of her
to get back in her way to stop her.
Eddie's just standing there goinglike, what the hell is going on here?
Eddie's literally just likethe man standing emoji.
He's not helping at all.
And we, and we finally get anexplanation for why Abby is so
desperate to get up into that traincarriage because, uh, Greg, Sam

(40:18):
Subway, Keith dude is her fiance.
It's, she needs to get back to him.
And
oh Buck's face!
Buck's reaction when she says fiance,he looks absolutely devastated.
He looks like he's been pistol whipped.

(40:38):
Yeah.
So Eddie steps in, takes over like, "Okay,we need a description." Abby pulls out
her phone, pulls up a photo of her and thedude to confirm for the audience that yes,
that dude up there was indeed her fiance.
And so they run off to go find him.

(41:01):
Well, Eddie runs off to go find him.
Buck very stupidly makes apromise to Abby that they will
find him and bring him back.
Yeah.
And as we've learned from every singlemedical police, first responder,
procedural, you never make a promise.

(41:21):
Yeah.
But he does.
He does get Sam's name outof her before he promises to
save him and then disappears.
What's his name?
Subway.
So at this point they're climbing up thevertical carriage and I'm just looking at
it going, should you not wait until thecarriage is slightly more secure before

(41:46):
you go climbing in it and like addingyour weight to the top of the carriage?
But
you would think wouldn't you.
But no, they just go right in there.
It's either that or Bobby's likeyou two or the expendable ones.
So I'm gonna send you in
you two are sharing the brain cell today.
Get up there.
Yeah.
If you happen to rescue anybodywhile you're in there, that's great.

(42:09):
If nothing bad, hap ifsomething bad happens, eh,
at least you're both in the same position.
So I'm not gonna have one of you tryingto do something, some stupid heroic
shit trying to save the other one.
We don't need two cut lines.
Exactly.
Oh, I wouldn't put it past them.
One of them's gonna anyway.

(42:31):
Uh, they, as they climb up, theyfind some more people who are
black tags, um, as Eddie calls 'em.
So, you know, there's plenty of casualtiesin this crash already, but they have
found, once they get right up the top ofit, they find Sam Sam's kind of conscious.

(42:52):
He said, you can speak, but hesays it hurts when he breathes.
And, um, he asks Buck, he says, like"my fiance, she's on the train" and
Buck and Eddie kind of share a look.
It's like, oh fuck.
Um, she's okay.
Yeah.
We know your fiance's here.

(43:12):
Trust us.
Yeah.
Why do you think we're here?
But he's pinned behind thechair, like one of the seats.
'cause there's like a, a beamthat's come through the floor and
is like pushing the seat into him.
Squishing him.
Yep.
So they need the jaws.
So on the ground we cut to Bobby,telling Chim that back and Eddie need

(43:36):
the jaws and he throws in the hydraulicram just for shits and giggles.
Um, but before Chim can deliver, said um,jaws and ram, the incident commander comes
up and says that the search dog detailerhas just landed and she'd like a couple
of medics to accompany the search dogs.

(43:56):
Um, and so he sends Chim and Hen offto accompany the search dog and he
personally delivers the, the, the jawsand saw and the ram up to Buck and Eddie.
Yeah.
They wanna keep all the paramedics.
Well, Bobby wants to keep all theparamedics on the ground because

(44:17):
the vertical carriage is shifting.
Like it keeps falling down.
Like the angle keeps getting narrower.
And Bobby climbs up the train.
And it is literally, I was counting,it was 20 seconds watching Peter
Krause climb, which makes me think
it's in real time.
Like either
they're getting his moneyworth, they're getting their

(44:39):
money out worth out of Peter.
Well that was the thing, was it like,Peter, we need you to climb this thing.
And he's like, I look, if I haveto climb this thing, I need to
be seen to be climbing this.
You have to actually use thisfootage 'cause I'm not doing this
if you're just gonna cut everything.
So it's either they put all this footagein because it was the only re the only

(44:59):
way they could get Peter to do thisvery physical stunt, or once again,
something went wrong with this episodein the editing suite and they just
needed so much filler footage that theywent, you know, we don't actually need
20 whole seconds of Peter climbing, butI don't have anything else to put in
this episode, so I'm putting this in.
Oh, I wonder.
Like I was, I can say I wonder if theycut a storyline out of it or something and

(45:23):
I think they cut so much shit, orthey just didn't film enough shit.
I dunno.
We can talk about it at the end.
Yeah.
Maybe they didn't film enough before.
20 seconds of Peter Krause doing exactlythe same thing we just saw Ryan and
Oliver do like, not even a minute ago.
Um, but yeah, so Buck has the,the Jaws sores on the Ram Eddie

(45:46):
gives Bobby the status report.
So he's got a collapsedlung from the blunt force.
His O2 levels are dropping, and inorder to relieve the pressure, they've
gotta move the beam off him, butit's too heavy and it's not budging.
Yeah.
So they get the, the machineryinto position, but as they start
to move the beam, they hear someonescreaming and it's the drummer girl.

(46:10):
And she's pinned underneath, underneaththis like, you know, in their seating
positions, I guess just a few seatsin front of him, in front of Sam.
Yeah.
I've, if anybody has watched this episode,it can tell me the act actual like layout
of where everybody is 'cause I've noidea whether she's above, below the side.
She's below, but in space, like,because the train is still like, so

(46:34):
Sam is like right at the top of the,where the train is and she's, a few
seats below, but I don't know how
below and to the leftbelow or to the right?
Or in my head it's to the right, butI don't know if that's the truth.
Okay.
But it's like the beam's sortof going like diagonally and
so it's pinning both of them.
And if they move it towardsher to free Sam, it hurts Sam.

(46:59):
And if they move it towards it,
to lift to it, to lift it, to getSam out compresses her even more.
Yeah.
Um, but I guess if they lifted it toget her out, it's gonna compress Sam.
Yeah.
So it's, it's Sophie's,it's Sophie's choice here.
Literally.
Yeah.
Anyway, so drummer girl says that herside really hurts, so Eddie takes a look,
and there's a massive long bone stickinglike up into and then out of her side.

(47:28):
Oh, it's so disgusting.
And I'm trying to work out whatI'm looking at while Eddie goes,
"The force of the crash pushedher leg up into her torso."
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm like, is is this a thingthat actually happens to people?
'cause
I don't know,
have you not seen...?
I don't wanna know.
And I'm not gonna Google to see.

(47:48):
No, I, so this is actually what canhappen if, um, if you are like in
a car accident with your feet up onthe dashboard and the airbag can push
your legs like through your pelvis.
Urgh.
Oh.
So do not put your feet up onthe dashboard ever in a car.

(48:08):
Ever.
Um, and I'm assuming this, it's happenedbecause she was sitting like sideways.
Sideways.
And so when it's happened andthe things like the beam things
hit her, it's pushed it wrong.
So she's got an open fracture on herleg, which has perforated her torso.

(48:31):
Yeah.
Great.
And that disgusted noise that youheard Alice made, that's pretty
much the same noise Eddie makeswhen he sees what's happened.
I'm like, dude,
very professional there a
little bit moreprofessionalism there please.
Eddie checks her foot,he takes her boot off.
And
which can we just, anybody whohas ever worn a Doc Marten ever,

(48:54):
can we just recognize that DocMartens don't come off like that?
Yeah.
You have to loosen quite a lot of lacesfor you to get the boot off like that.
It's like that, it's like that thing of,there was that episode in Supernatural
where they, the boys had to taketheir boots off to come inside and
for some reason, Dean is just able totoe out of his boots and everyone's

(49:15):
universally gone there's no fuckingway that he can toe out of a boot.
Not if he wants to run with it still on
unless laces are so loose, thatthey're barely hanging on to his feet.
Yes.
Um, but yes, despite having an open,um, massively open fracture, Rumer
Willis still has a pulse in her foot.

(49:38):
Yeah.
Like, ugh.
Okay.
I don't wanna thinktoo hard about what is,
which is, which is...
How it's working, but yes.
So, um, so Bobby summons Buckand Eddie away from, uh, the
crash victims to have a little...
Uh, sorry, hang on.
I'm just distracted because you said thatthere's a growl to Oliver's voice and
now I've just gotta check it for science.

(50:02):
It's, it's just a very, I don'tknow, it's just very rough.
Um, and you know, I have a voice kinkand that just once again, I'm going to
hell, I'm like down another one on, on
On main, Bex.
Jesus.
Yes.
Well, apparently Buzzfeed don'tlisten to podcasts, so I'm fine.

(50:26):
Um, Ellen for your
Yeah.
Ellen
explanation, um, they're, Ryan and Oliverare doing a Buzzfeed interview, but
they're not doing the puppies interview.
They're doing the reading thirst tweets.
Oh no.
Yes.
And so a lot of 9-1-1 are like onTwitter and on TikTok are freaking
out because like Buzzfeed hasperceived them and now Ryan and

(50:50):
Oliver are going to perceive them.
Oh dear.
Um, right, so back to this.
So Bobby has pulled Buck and Eddieaway because they need to have a talk
about which person they are goingto prioritize trying to save because
they're both trapped by the same beam.
They take the pressure off Sam, they'resqueezing Rumer Willis, vice versa.

(51:14):
I, Bobby wants pretty sure thatprofess opinion on which one,
I'm pretty sure it'sEddie that has the growl.
Just letting you know.
Hmm?
I'm pretty sure that'sRyan that has the growl.
Not Oliver.
No, it's.
It's Buck 'cause it's like on thecamera is on him as he says that line.
Nah, I'm pretty sure that's Eddie.
That's better.
I guess for me, I'm notquite going to hell as badly.

(51:40):
Yeah, that's definitely Eddie.
Okay, good.
Um, my soul is still tarnished,but not as badly tarnished.
Anyway, Buzzfeed just slid intoBex's dms as we are recording.
We haven't even uploaded it yet.
They're just like, what was that?

(52:03):
Anyway, what are we up to?
Okay.
Um,
anyway, yes, they have topick who they're gonna save.
Bobby is asking.
Yeah.
Bobby is asking Eddie'sprofessional opinion, which of
the two victims has a better shot?
And Eddie is like, "Eh, the injuries aredifferent, but the risk is the same." And
Buck is like, "Wait, what are we saying?
We have to pick who we're going to save?"

(52:26):
And Bobby's just like, "I'm justsaying, I don't think we can save
'em both." And so we go from thatreally high emotional tense, what
the hell are you talking about?
Scene to a commercial.
And when we come back it's Athena.
Yeah.
And they're discussing, well, she'ssitting at the table with Brooke
Shields and they're discussinghow like the different victims and

(52:50):
how they're gonna feel about, um,discussing the crimes basically.
And that's this whole scene, I guess.
Yeah.
So they go through a coupleof the different victims, and
then they get to one of them.
And Athena says that she'd begreat on the stand, but she's the
one that Athena worries about mostbecause all her statements are

(53:11):
peppered with, I should have known.
I should have realized.
And Brooke Shields goes, "So sheblames herself, um, thinks if she had
done something different, maybe itwouldn't have happened. And I can't
help but notice that there's a filemissing from this table." And just
like there's a second a when Athena'sgoing like, "Wait, I missed one?
Did Lou forget to, uh, shh.

(53:33):
Yeah, right.
Me, you're talking about my file.
And she's like, no, but I, I, like,I don't count in this like my, the
Jeffrey's attack on me was nothinglike the attack on the other women.
Your focus should be on them."
Yeah.
And Brooke Shields is telling her thatit's not fair to compare traumas and the

(53:57):
attack on her was pretty brutal as well.
And apparently Athena iscompartmentalizing her attack because
she says she doesn't remember mostof it and people say that she's
lucky that she doesn't remember it.
Dr. Sanford says that they are wrong,everyone is wrong because yes, sometimes

(54:20):
the brain's way of protecting usis to block out painful memories.
But she has never met somebody whofeels better because they don't
know what has happened to them.
And at this point Athena realizedthat Dr. Sanford was never here to
talk about all the other victims.
She was here specifically to talk toAthena, but she's tells her that she's

(54:41):
not ready to talk about what happened.
She's quite happy withher little compartment
and, um, Cara doesn't push.
She just says, "I will leave this herefor when you are ready." And she sort
of hands over a file and then she leaves
and that's it.
Yeah.

(55:02):
Why did you bring BrookeShields in for that?
Yeah,
she comes back later, but that's basicallythe tone of the whole, of her involvement.
So it's, it's very nice and caringand you know, it's important that
Athena faces these things, but whenit's got the emotional whip whiplash
of the, uh, the, the train crash,

(55:24):
we have to pick someone like wholives, who dies, and then Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a, it's a weird choice.
But we are gonna go backto the RV Park of Doom.
Yes.
With more long lingering overhead shotsof the, uh, location of the train crash.

(55:45):
'cause, you know, fill, we gottafill, stretch, stretch everything out.
And then we get the dog squad.
It's the dog squad.
So it's this beagle,
um, it's it a beagle oris it a Jack Russell?
A hundred percent a beagle.
It's a beagle.
It's a beagle.
Okay.
I don't know dogs.
I defer to your professional opinion.
Um, beagles are amazing scent dogs.
Anyway um, it's ahundred percent a beagle.

(56:08):
I just, I was laughing so much becausethey get the dog squad in and the dog
runs over to this like, dead body that'sliterally just like behind a fire truck.
It's out in the open.
Yeah.
Behind a firetruck.
Yes.
Like, did they not even checkwhen they parked the fire?
Like did they run thisguy over when they parked?
Like, it's literally just outin the open behind the firetruck

(56:30):
and I'm watching it like,
oh no.
Huh.
Um.
I
was more laughing at the fact that like,you bring in a dog to find out, find a
body that's in the middle of the Yeah.
So like, good dog.
You found the one thateveryone walked right past.
Yeah, we already found that one.
Yeah.
So the whole, the whole point isthat, um, that like, they find things
that are like, find people that aretrapped, that are unconscious and

(56:51):
can't like yell out, but No, no.
Like let's find the one that's behindthe fire truck out in the open, anyway.
They're like, look, the dogcan sniff someone with treats.
Isn't it a good little dog?
Yes, it is.
Um, so he checks the pulse andis just like, yep, no black tag.
So they've black tagged it.
Uh, the guy that's beenrun over by the firetruck.

(57:12):
Um, and then they come across the dad fromearlier, um, who's yelling for his son.
He's not hurt, but he's still lookingfor, his son still hasn't found him.
Um, son's named Milo.
I can't remember if we mentioned that.
Yeah.
I dunno why, how long he's beenyelling for his son for like, it
feels like we've been here forever.
And no one noticed him?
Because again, they'rejust behind the firetruck.

(57:34):
Like they didn't even go further intothe, they're just behind a firetruck.
So they're start looking for the kid,the kid's 15, black hair, green shirt,
and they give the dog a rag that likethe kid used to clean his hands with.
And then we find out thatthe dog's name is Richard.

(57:57):
Yeah.
Which is amazing.
That is people name.
Richard's trained onlyto track human scents.
And so it doesn't matter that it'sgot antifreeze or coolant on it
because chemicals won't confuse him.
Okay.
Is that, is that real like
Yes,
yes?
Okay.
They are taught, so Autumn'sstarting to learn scent work.

(58:20):
I should be a lot further, but I am lazy.
Um, but yeah, so like you can put likefood and the scent in the same thing and
they know to go for the scent and that'show they do with like drug detection
dogs and stuff like that as well.
It's really cool, but you can teach them.
Um, so the way to teach like the diabeticalert dogs is when you're having a low,

(58:48):
you basically like get, like get a ragor like an old t-shirt or something
that like, while you're having the lowand then reward them for smelling that.
And so then when they smell thaton you, they'll start alerting you.
Oh, that's cool.
So basically they're asking for treats.

(59:10):
Yeah.
They do it for food generally.
So different dogs have different,um, like it depends on how
their, like, what their alert is.
Yeah.
Uh, so like some dogswill just nose at it.
Some dogs will stare at it.
Some, some dogs will paw at it.
Um, generally these sort of dogs aretaught to either nose at or like, stare.

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Some are taught to bark.
Hmm.
But yeah, it's pretty cool.
Dogs are amazing.
Like the stuff that theycan smell is incredible.
And it's funny 'cause the scent work thatwe do like for the trials is smelling
like, so the first level is birch, soit's literally like smelling a tree.
Well, Richard with his peoplename, um, has located the boy.

(59:58):
No, no, we're not there yet.
Oh, okay.
I mean, we, we can just skip over thenext 'cause it's pretty ridiculous.
Yeah.
They basically give Sam some painkillers
and we find out that he's got kids.
So that's literally it.
Oh yeah.
They're getting married in June.
Yeah.
Yeah.

(01:00:19):
Um, Eddie forces Buck to bond withhim in order to keep, um, Sam awake.
' cause he's cruel and sadistic like that.
Yeah.
So Buck is bonding with hisex-girlfriend's new fiance.
Um, meanwhile Richard is finding Milo.

(01:00:40):
Yeah.
And apparently his alert is tostart trying to dig Milo out
of wherever he was trapped.
Aw, good boy, Richard.
Yeah.
What a good boy.
Oh my God.
That just sounds wrong.
It's not a dog name.
Right?

(01:01:01):
It's really not.
Especially when you say things like that.
Anything can be a dog nameif you're brave enough,
but it means you go out in the parkand you have to call like Richard!
That's literally, whenever we have newowners, we're always like, name them
something that you're not gonna beembarrassed if you are standing in the
middle of a park surrounded by people.

(01:01:22):
Name them something you're not embarrassedto yell at the top of your lungs.
Yeah.
All right.
So Milo is, is trapped underneathsomething, but he can't move.
And he says, um, well, he says hedoesn't think he can move and he
can't, but he can wriggle his toes.
Which Hen says that she's guessingthat if he can wiggle his toes,

(01:01:45):
whatever injury Milo has is not spinal.
But then she's doing something like,I think she's got her hand around the
back of his neck or something, andshe's feeling around and says that she
can't locate the occiput ligaments, andwhich apparently are the ligaments that
holds your head and your spine together.

(01:02:10):
Oh, this, this one alsojust made, gave me the ick.
I was like, oh, no, no, no, no.
Um, so Chim says he,there's a dislocation.
He seen it in car accidents, but he'snever seen someone who's still talking
after it in front of the patient.
Like, yeah, you can't saythings like that, Chim, um,

(01:02:33):
in front of the patient and his dad,
but yeah,
but he, but he said it all,it, it's all like medical talk.
So it's Atlanto-occipital dislocation.
The dad's like, "What is that?"And Hen goes, "Oh, it's an
internal decapitation." Yeah.
Like Henrietta.
Yeah.
"His spine is intact. It's just notconnected to his skull anymore."

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And the dad's like, "But he's alive!"
They just need to get him toa hospital to, so the surgeons
can reattach his ligaments.
Like it's easy.
Um, but they also need to coolthe saline to preserve as much
nerve and tissue as possible.
So Chim just finds an ice cooler magically
He saw a cooler.
He's gonna go get ice.
I don't know where he is gonna get theice from, but he's gonna get, get ice.

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I think we've spoken already thatthey're called eskys here, haven't we?
Yeah, I think we went over that.
Yeah.
'cause I called it an esky andthen you guys went, no, we've gotta
translate that for the Americans.
It's a cooler
American-ese.
Um, so back up in the train carriageof doom, Bobby has decided to play

(01:03:38):
God and he has chosen, um, the girl.
He wants to get the girl out, whichBuck immediately just went, "Uh, no.
If we do that, it's gonna kill Sam." AndBobby's like, "Yes, I'm aware of that."
"Yes, we went over this already, Buck,"
"We say whoever has the better chance. AndEddie is saying that the girl has a better

(01:04:01):
chance," and Buck just flat out says no.
Yeah, no.
Eddie's trying to explain it to him.
Like, like "Medically,Sam's not doing so well.
She's doing okay." And, um, andBuck's like, "oh no, okay, fine.
You are right.
So why don't, um, why don't I go on theoutside of this very precariously leaning

(01:04:25):
train carriage and then I cut throughthe side of the train carriage and then
we can get them both out that way."
And Bobby's like.
"No, because the traincarriage isn't secure." Yeah.
That's why they're working on the inside,
If the thing topples, thenthey can ride it down.
But if he's on the outside Buck's,like, "Yeah, yeah, I'll be crushed by a
hundred tons of train, car, whatever."
Um, no, "I, I could be trashed by ahundred tons of train car, and I know

(01:04:49):
that's a lot heavier than a fire truck."
Um, so this is where Eddiebasically dobs Buck into Dad.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's like, "I know, I know youmade a promise." And Bobby's like,
Bobby, what promise?
"What the fuck?"
Buckley, what did you do?
And Buck goes, "To his fiance.
I promised I'd bring him down to her." Um,and then Eddie, in the most bitter way,

(01:05:18):
he goes, "To Abby, his fiance's Abby,"
and Bobby's like, "oh, for fuck's sake.
Okay.
Yep.
I see what's going on here."
Yeah.
Buck's like, "No, no, no, no.
It's not just because of her.
Like, he, he's a, he has two daughters.
He's a father." And Bobby's like, no,
no, it's a hundred percent.
You're too close to this.
Get this, get out.

(01:05:41):
Um, "To Abby, his fiance's Abby."
Abby, I, I, I love that.
And then Bobby's just,oh my god, reaction.
It's just, it's just perfection.
It is literally like when he's sayingthat, it's like the angry emoji.
And then "to Abby, his fiance'sAbby," and then the angry emoji.

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But then this gets either better orworse depending on your perspective.
Ryan Racting Roices,
um, because Bobby is trying to tell Buckwhat he's planning to do is too risky.
And Buck says, "Well, I am willingto take that risk." And Bobby says,
"But it's not your risk to take, youcan't just rush into any dangerous

(01:06:25):
situation and assume it's gonna be okay.
'cause sometimes it's not.
And I'm tired of being on the wrongside of those hospital visits."
And Buck's brain is still wrappedup in the whole Abby thing.
And he goes, "Well Bobby, I'm notAthena." Completely forgetting
about every single time.
And I counted, there's been atleast three of them that Buck has

(01:06:46):
been in a hospital bed and Bobbyhas been sitting at his bedside.
Oh yeah.
Bobby just like looks at him and islike, "what did you say to me?" And
Eddie clearly recognizes that Bobbyis like very close to like, literally
throwing Buck outta this train carriage.

(01:07:09):
Just like tossing him down vertically.
Nope.
We've seen Bobby manhandle Buck whenBuck pushes him too far before, it's
just like the stakes would be so muchhigher if we did it at this point.
Um, he tries to get betweenthe two of them, like, come on,
we don't have time for this.
Um, tries to get Buck to back off.

(01:07:29):
Buck doesn't back off,Bobby doesn't back off.
And then we go to commercial.
I love how they were all justhaving a big argument in the
middle of the train carriage
with, with two criticalpatients, just like, uh, guys?
Yeah.
It's like, can you guys all stoparguing and come and rescue us, please?
Like, we'll pick between ourselves.
It's fine.

(01:07:49):
We rock paper scissored for it.
Subway's like, fuck this.
I'm fucking out.
Like, you can, I don't even care anymore.
Why are you so obsessed with my fiance?
Oh, no.
Wait, did you say your name was Buck?
Yeah.
Like, he doesn't realize until later, butlike, they're right there and, and they're
saying "his fiance's Abby." It's like,can he not hear that from where he is?

(01:08:15):
No, he's pretty like, at thispoint he's decompensating, so
Okay.
Like, why are you soobsessed with my fiance?
Oh.
Did she ever tell you aboutthe himbo that she dated?
To be fair, I don't think sheever called him the himbo.
She
didn't?
No.

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Uh, then we have anotherweird Bathena house moment.
Yeah, it's just a, uh, it's justa flash of what Athena's up to.
Like she's just.
She just reads a file,
reads she, she has a glass of winewith her as to fortify her and as
she opens the file and has a look.
But I'm always reading wine whenI'm, I mean, drinking wine when I'm

(01:08:57):
reading about my traumas, yous reading,reading wine, you know, I don't wanna
read the tra, although I did workin a wine bottling plant, so reading
wine labels might be the trauma.
Oh, that sounds like a cool place to work.
I mean, I was 18, didn't like wine.
Still don't, um, and justsmelt of it constantly.

(01:09:19):
'cause
oof,
it'd splash everywhere, so, yeah.
No,
not so glamorous
Dad loved it.
Lots of free wine.
Very easy presents for,um, for that six months.
Well she, she starts readingthe, the file and starts flashing
back to like, the assault.
So eventually she can't handle it,so she snaps it shut and leaves it.

(01:09:42):
And we go back to the train.
Yeah, we go back to the train.
Emotional whiplash.
After all of the talk of Abby, we'reactually going to see Abby again.
Can I just note that Abby's hair isstill perfect and her white clothes are
still perfectly white, even though shehas been through a train derailment.

(01:10:03):
Yeah,
of course.
Her hair's still perfect.
She might have fixed it aftershe got out of the carriage.
And her glasses are also still intact.
Yeah.
So
maybe she didn't getthrown around as much.
She wasn't in the verticalone, so she's fine.
Yeah.
The, the, um, dining car might'vebeen a less thrown around, maybe

(01:10:26):
at the very least, she should have astain on the front of her shirt from
where she spilled a sidecar over herself.
Yeah.
Realism people.
But that's, this show does not do realism.
What are you talking about?
No, we've established this already.
So the, the point of this scene is a,just because they needed to get Connie

(01:10:47):
Britton like on screen again, uh,'cause they, you know, they'd spent all
this money to get her on an episode.
And yeah, there's, there'sno real point to this scene.
She's on the phone with one of Sam'sdaughters who is freaking out because
Sam has not texted them and he alwaystexts and Abby has to break the news to

(01:11:07):
them that there has been a train accidentand their dad is hurt, but he's gonna
be okay because he's in the best hands.
And we go back to, as you havedescribed it, train carriage of Bobby
is too tired to deal with Buck's shit.
So he's just let, Buck has justgone ahead and done the thing.
Even though,

(01:11:30):
so we went through that massive argumentof, you know, this is, this is too risky,
it's not your risk to, um, to take.
And then Bobby's just gone like,fuck it, do whatever you want.
I don't care anymore at this point.
So Buck is climbing theoutside of the train carriage.
Yes.
And is trying to saw through the outsideas he, as he told Bobby that he would.

(01:11:53):
Yeah, I was watching this going.
Did, did we not just have an argumentabout how this was too risky?
Yes.
Yeah.
There was no resolution.
There was no, you know what, go do it.
I don't even care anymore.
There was nothing.
It was literally justlike, you can't do that.
And then after an ad break he's doing,
he's doing the thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A few moments later he's doing it.
And Bobby's right there looking up at him.
Um,

(01:12:14):
yeah, yeah.
Bobby's left the train carriage,ostensibly to try and get the train
carriage more secure now that he hasone of his firefighters on the exterior
of the train, which is far riskierthan being on the inside of the train.
Bobby's just like holding the car up,
like literally using hisirradiated Hulk powers

(01:12:40):
Finally, the radiation did something.
Besides somehow giveMichael a brain tumor.
Ooh, that's interesting.
I don't think braintumors are like catching.
I don't think he can be infected.

(01:13:00):
No, but he could have irradiatedaround Michael, which has caused
the, like, the cells in the brain tostart beginning mal, um, malformed.
Dammit Bobby.
Just Michael though.
Not anybody else.
Yeah, just for Michael.
That's terrifying.
Like glanced at him in the over a hallway.
We were just saying last weekthat he's his support person, so

(01:13:21):
Yeah, because he's feeling guiltybecause he gave him brain cancer.
Geez.
Oh boy.
Okay.
Um,
let's stop writing fic,
right?
So and Buck's on the outside.
Eddie's on the inside beingeverybody's support person.
Reassuring Rumer Willis thatshe's gonna get to the Roxby.
Um, she's not gonna be drumming anytimesoon, but they are gonna get her out.

(01:13:47):
I mean, there is a drum.
Oh, there's a drummer with one arm.
Well, you could, you coulddrum with one leg with.
Her gig's tomorrow night.
It's fine.
She'll fine.
She's gonna be in hospitalfor, she'll be right people to,
she'll be right.
She's got her leg bone literallysticking through her stomach.
It's just a flesh wound.
She'll be right
'tis but a flesh wound.

(01:14:07):
She can do the base drumwith her other foot.
No problem.
Yeah.
It depends on which leg it is, but Ithink it's her... anyway, boy, okay.
No, Eddie is, Eddie is trying to convincethem that you guys are gonna be, he says
"Neither of you guys are missing anything.We're getting you out." It's like, no, no.
They're gonna be missing like the gig.
Like there's no way she's getting to

(01:14:28):
Yeah.
Um, but
the, like, we get the sentiment, but no.
Yeah.
Um, the carriage starts to wobblearound again and everyone's
gasping and, but still trying tocut the outside of the carriage.
Yeah.
There's literally an externalshot of the crowd, like gasping as
the carriage wobbles, it's great.

(01:14:48):
Including like, um, Bobby isstanding, looking up, kicking
himself for letting Buck do this.
Um, Abby is standing there with likeher hands clasped under her chin,
clutching at her invisible pearls.
It's like, oh my God.
Although, whether she's worriedabout Buck or whether she's worried
about Sam, who knows at this point.
Bit of both.
Who knows?

(01:15:09):
Mm.
Mm-hmm.
Both, both is good.
So they're all watching from the ground.
Buck cuts a hole in the sideof the carriage and grins
at Eddie through the hole.
Yes.
Eddie's just looking at himgoing, you fucking idiot.
Yeah.

(01:15:30):
Why do I put up with you?
So they get the basket and um,
okay.
And now here's where the, thewheels start to fall off for me.
Yeah,
because how does Eddie manage to getRumer Willis out from under the beam and
into the basket by himself within theconfined space of the train carriage?

(01:15:56):
Yeah.
I was kind of thinking, yeah, not thinkingthat, that, uh, when they were able to
pull her out through the, the hole, theycould also dislodge the, um, the beam.
But the, but Eddie is there on hisown and he's gotta get her out.
Like it... yeah, you'reright it doesn't make sense.
And then he's gonna get Sam out.
There's not enough people in there
by
himself.

(01:16:16):
It's like, it's like they, theythought three quarters of this
through and then they went, shit,
yeah, it's close
enough.
How is this actuallygonna work in reality?
Eh, we are just gonna hand wave this bit.
They just magically get out.
So they do, they magically get out,they magically get the drama girl

(01:16:37):
out into the basket and down to theground, and then they get, they go
back and they do the same for Samand they all live happily ever after.
Yeah.
Even with Milo, uh, we go back to Chimand Hen who are putting a collar onto Milo
and then they lift him up on something?
Yeah.
Chim teleports to Hen'sside to do something.

(01:17:01):
They're like "3, 2, 1. And..."
yeah.
Do they lift up?
We don't actually see what
the, the chair that he's,or whatever he's lying on.
I don't know.
Or have they got something underneath?
I don't know because we don't see,
yeah, I dunno,
we don't see.
Anyway, everybody lives,
I'm assuming that,
except for all people who diedin the original train crash.
But everyone we herewe know, um, is alive.

(01:17:24):
Yeah.
Um, it's a little bit touch and gowith Milo because they get him out
of the, the RV where he was trapped.
They get him on a backboard, everything'slooking good, and then his brain realizes
that his body is not connected to thehead bone and stops sending signals.
Well, they threw back first
Including a very important signal.

(01:17:45):
So first they, like, we find outthat they're homeless pretty much.
'cause the dad says that they'renot living in the RV by choice.
And Milo's like, "What are youtalking about, dad? We're on an
adventure. What do we always say?"And Dad's like, maybe that's not the
right best thing to say right now.
But then we go back to like what theDad was saying to Donatello earlier

(01:18:06):
and it's keep your head head up, whichis awkward 'cause he's decapitated,
but that's where he stops talking.
Yeah.
'cause his, his brain has decided there'sno body attached, so there's no reason to
send signals to, you know, do importantthings like breathing, which means that
they have to intubate him in order tobreathe for him, which is, you know, a

(01:18:29):
little bit tricky because if they movehis neck too much, they're going to,
you know, complete the decapitation.
But Chim very helpfully, um, explainswhy they're giving him whatever
that chemical is, that they're, themedicine that they're giving him.
I can't pronounce that, but it'llstop the gag reflex and it's like, oh,

(01:18:50):
that's very good communication, Chim.
Most paramedics would just probablydo it without telling the dad what's
happening, but, or, or the audience.
Most paramedics aren't, you know,don't have an audience watching.
We are actually taught in like firstaid to always say what we're doing.
Okay.
That's good.
Um, and say it like out loud so thatanyone like listening in knows as well.

(01:19:15):
I mean, it's probably important forother people who are helping you to
know what, what you've already done.
Well, not only that, but like, ifyou, like, imagine if you are starting
CPR on a woman and then someonelike just wanders past and you're
all of a sudden cutting their topoff to put defibrillator pads on.
But.
All they see is you cuttinga woman's shirt off, like

(01:19:35):
mm-hmm.
Um, but yes, it's also a consent thing.
Um, they manage to get the tube inand they put the collar back on and
he, we don't know if he's gonna beokay yet, but seems okay for now.
Um, Sam is rescued in the basketand he gets out that way as well.

(01:19:57):
He's asking after Abby and um, ahelicopter arrives because apparently
these people are gonna be medivaced out.
I think Chim called for the Medivac.
Yeah, Chim called for the medivacand have the Children's Hospital
and like a surgeon standing by.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's probably a lot safer than takingan ambulance over some bumpy roads.

(01:20:20):
Yeah, exactly.
Um, so yeah, Sam and Abby are reunitedand he, he like sees Buck and he says,
"Oh thank you." And Abby actually callshim by name and Sam's like, you are Buck.
So obviously Sam has, Abbyhas told him about Buck.

(01:20:42):
Buck's, sort of very sheepishly goes,"yeah, it's, it's nice to meet you.
You know, I've been hanging out withyou for the last hour or so, but yeah,
I'm Buck." So they get Sam into theambulance, Abby climbs up into the
ambulance, maintaining eye contactwith Buck the entire time they shut
the doors, she's still staring at Buck.
Ambulance drives away,she's still staring at Buck.

(01:21:05):
Eddie's kind of looking back and forthbetween the disappearing ambulance and
Buck and it's like, "Dude, are you okay?"Um, and Buck just says, "What's next?"
Very President Bartlett of him.
And then he runs off to findsomething else to do to distract
him from what just happened, leavingEddie, like, what is going on here?

(01:21:30):
Then we go to commercial with, butbefore we go to commercial, we go,
we get another like pullback shot ofthe crash site with all of the, the
ambulances and the pretty lights.
And the debris and the train carriages.
Because something bad happenedto this episode, swear to God.

(01:21:50):
And as has been the pattern becausewe were just having a very emotional
scene at the train derailment.
When we come back from acommercial, we are with Athena.
It must be some time later, right?
Because this, unless she's suddenly cometo the decision that she's okay, she
really is okay to talk about it now.
And she's called BrookeShields back immediately.

(01:22:12):
But no,
It has to be.
Sometime later.
Um, she's talking,she's ready to talk now.
And she, she says she remembersshe doesn't remember much about
the attack itself and but theclear me, the first clear memory
she has is being in the ambulance.
And she thought she was dying becausethe look on Bobby's face, he thought

(01:22:35):
she was dying so she thought she was.
And Kara says, but you didn't.
You survived.
Athena says she shouldn't have survived.
"He had me. I didn't even know he wasthere. I've been a police officer for
30 years and I've always been able totrust my gut," and now she's got doubts.
So at least she realizes thatshe should have called for
backup before she went inside.

(01:22:57):
Um, she feels like she can'ttrust her instincts anymore.
So will this be a wakeup call for a Athena?
Will she learn from this?
Will will this stop herfrom doing reckless things?
Signs point to no.
Tune in next week to find out,but it won't be next week 'cause
it's the season finale, so.
Yeah.
Yes.
Tune in in a couple of months to find out.

(01:23:19):
Bless her.
But, uh, it's gonna take time forher to heal and try and regain
her trust in herself, she says.
So poor Josh doesn't get much ofa run in this episode, but, uh,
we have a brief scene with himgiving his impact statement
in court in front of Greg.

(01:23:39):
Which I understand is importantto like finish off Josh's
storyline, but why do we need it?
Yeah.
It's a funny little addition.
I could understand it maybe if whatJosh said on the stand was, you know,
so terrible because it aligned withthe, the other storylines and the
episode title and everything like that.

(01:24:00):
But, um, it doesn't, it's,
no, I think it's just closingthe door on that chapter.
I, yeah, no, no, I know.
I just, did it have to be now?
Did it have to be in this episode?
Did we actually have to close that door?
I, I dunno.
Hmm.
I do like, I will give themprops that they did manage to

(01:24:22):
drag Greg in for this one scene.
The real Greg,
the real Greg and him sitting therein his prison jumpsuit kind of
glaring at Josh while Josh is, is,um, giving him his little speech.
Yeah.
Where he says that, um, he's gonna beable to walk out of this courthouse

(01:24:42):
and have drinks with friends and Gregis gonna be sitting in a box every
morning thinking about Josh and Josh canchoose never to think about him again.
Okay.
Good for you, Josh.
From the courthouse, we're gonna go to thedoctor's office where we get the good news

(01:25:05):
that the tumor has shrunk by almost 30%.
Yeah.
It's a miracle,
well, that's what Athena says.
Yeah.
Um, Michael says it's, it's not aclean bill of health or anything,
but it's, it's a start, so
Yeah.
It's looking much morepositive than it was.
Yeah.
So Athena is planning, um, dinner sothat Michael can share the good news.

(01:25:30):
He's all for it.
He wants to come over and tell the kids.
Um, but then the elevator dings andsomebody gets onto the elevator and
Michael looks and sees that it's,it's Dr. David from " Powerless" and
suddenly all plans of having dinner withthe kids go straight out of his head.
Because last time he saw Dr. David,he was talking to another man and then

(01:25:54):
sprinted out of the hospital just asDr. David was going to ask him out.
Yeah.
So he needs to fix that.
Yeah.
So he runs to the elevator and jumps on,
slides inside
and goes.
He can't, he can't, he slide into his dms,so he literally slides into his elevator.

(01:26:15):
Yeah.
I will say Dr. David doesn't look upsetto see Michael, so he is obviously
forgiven him for, you know, talkingto another man and running off.
All right, so Buck has met up with Abby.
Ugh.
This is a very weird scene.
Yes.
And Be, Bex is very excitedabout this scene, apparently.

(01:26:39):
Oh my God.
So it's, yeah.
It's Buck's supposedlygetting answers out of Abby.
It's like they're, they're catching upand Abby says that she is sorry that
Buck had to find out about Sam thisway and Buck's looking at her going
like, that's what you're sorry for.

(01:27:00):
Yeah.
Not for, you know, ghosting me or, yeah.
She doesn't say sorry forany of the rest of it at all.
No.
I'm sorry you had to find out thatI have a fiance because you had to
rescue him from a train carriage.
Yeah.
Um, I wasn't actually planningon telling you at all.
Oops.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She just fully ghosted him.

(01:27:23):
Too awkward for Abby, I guess.
So.
Sh well she, she kind of explains 'causeBuck's like, "Did you know that you
weren't coming back? Did you know thatyou were leaving me for good and when did
you know that you were leaving me? Wasit in Morocco or Paris or Dublin, or when
I was kissing you goodbye and promisingthat I would wait for you at the airport."
And she explains that like we kindof discussed in our, um, sort of

(01:27:47):
season one wrap up when we weretalking about Abby, that she was lost.
She was all about other people and thenshe left and she discovered who she was
and she was afraid that if she came backto Buck and to LA, that she would lose
herself again even though she missedBuck, even though she wanted to see

(01:28:11):
him, she wanted to keep herself more.
And Buck takes all that in and then justgoes, "I'm glad to see you're happy."
And then that's the end of the scene.
I mean, he handled it with a lot moregrace than perhaps she deserved, but
I just, let's finish the episodeand then I can go off about it.

(01:28:37):
Alright.
Okay.
So it's party time and this is thegraduation party of the class of 2020.
And all of Mom's dorkywork friends are there.
And Mom's dorky workfriends' family members.
Yes.

(01:28:58):
So there's a few, there's a few of May'sfriends who have just graduated as well,
but most of the people seem to be likemembers of the 118 and their families.
Oh.
And you can tell that they just graduatedbecause they're still wearing their
mortarboards and graduation robes.
Yeah.
As you do to a party.
Yes.
I'm not even sure they'reallowed to keep those.

(01:29:21):
I guess it depends.
Uh, it depends if you'verented them or bought them.
Yeah.
Yeah,
like some schools you can rentthem in which case No, you
do have to hand them back.
But if, if, um, I know I had torent my robes, but I got to, I
had to buy my mortarboard, so.
Okay.
I'm pretty sure I rentedboth of them for my,
I never graduated, so can't answer this.

(01:29:45):
I don't, I don't have like a mortarboard lurking somewhere in my
house, so I must have given it back.
I don't know where mine is.
I did used to have it anyway.
But how will people know if it's agraduation party if you don't have like,
actual graduates in the background?
Yeah.
To remind you.
Yeah.
So, but I mean, I love this scenemostly just because everyone

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is having such a great time.
Yeah, it's great.
Yeah.
It's, it's so much fun.
They've got, um, a photo booth withprops and they've got various different
combinations of cast members in thephoto booth getting like, dressed up
and just hamming it up for the camera.
Um, which is a lot of fun.

(01:30:29):
Yeah.
Including like, as you were so excitedabout Alice, the, um, beads scene.
The beads scene
Buck ends up with a bunch of beadsaround, like they look like those
Mardi Gras bead things around his neck.
And then he accidentally, jumps up andflip flips them into, into Eddie's face.

(01:30:49):
I don't know how it happens,but Eddie's just like,
yeah.
So Oliver like turns around andlike smacks Ryan in the face.
Yeah.
And then apologizes for itwhile Ryan's gone cross-eyed.
And that was actually justthem fucking around and like
got like, it was not scripted,
but it's so cute because the beads flyup and, and like hit um, Ryan in the face

(01:31:11):
and Ryan's like cross-eyed and he sort oflifts a hand to sort of, you know, make
sure that his nose is still attached tohis face and Oliver is just like bending
down and like hands like, oh my God.
Ryan, are you okay?
You're okay.
It's so cute.
Dorky work friends.
Um, there's also a giant guest book,and Buck's helping Chris like write his,

(01:31:36):
but before he helps Chris with his, wesee Bucks note and like, I don't know
what the fuck is with Oliver's fuck-asshandwriting, but you can barely read it.
We can read "You did it." And thenthe second word looks like "cowavis".

(01:31:57):
It's like what?
I'm pretty sure it's congrats, but
it's definitely supposed to be congrats.
But it looks like "cowavits"
the, the n is stretched out.
The T is a dot on top of it instead of...
yeah the T isn't even joined up.
Instead of a stroke.
Yeah.
It's just, and then Buck looks likeit's got an H at the end instead of a K.

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I don't know if this is gonna make itinto the episode, but before we started,
like actually recording, there wasa full like handwriting analysis of
this and discussion about whether thiswas Oliver's handwriting or whether
this was a prop person writing this.
I think we came to theconclusion, this is Oliver.
It's a hundred percent Oliver.
Um, for some reason they let him havea sharpie, it it to disastrous results.

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Um, I'm, I'm pretty sure Buck shouldhave just let Chris write his own,
because like whenever we see Chriswriting anything, it's amazing.
So
It's difficult to write on a whiteboard.
Okay.
Like it on a vertical page.
It's not that hard.
It's not that hard.
The hardest thing about writing on a,

(01:33:05):
it's not that cowavits!
The hardest thing about writing on awhiteboard is staying in a straight
line and not like going up or down.
But
True.
You should still be legible.
Yeah.
Or at least semi legible.
I'm pretty sure that everything we'veever seen, quote unquote, Christopher
write has been a prop person.
I don't think they've everlet Gavin write anything.
It looks way too good to be aseven or 8-year-old, or however

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old he is in season three.
Anyway, so.
Buck asks Chris what his note,what he wants his note to be.
And it's "May your dreams come true, May."
Aw,
he's a funny kid.
So cute.
Speaking of May, she is posing withMaddie in the photo booth and Maddie is

(01:33:47):
asking her about whether she's excitedabout USC and that Maddie knows that
Athena is certainly excited about USCand May's like, "Actually, um, do you
have a minute because there's somethingthat I wanted to talk to you about."
Dun dun dun.
What's May gonna talk to Maddie about?

(01:34:07):
Uh, so they immediately dropeverything and walk off.
Yes.
Um, and then we go to thefire pit, which is where...
The money pit?
Yeah, just where the fire was.
Karen calls it a money pit
and Michael's like, "it's gonna begreat." And Hen's like "You don't

(01:34:29):
see the greatness, Karen?" Like
It's apparently remote controlledand like Hen is very skeptical
that the remote is going to beable to light whatever that is.
Yeah.
Um, and Michael gets very insulted.
He is like, and when it's, whenhe says it's gonna be great,
he then immediately storms off.

(01:34:49):
He gets very sulky at these big parties.
Yeah.
In his house.
It's not his house.
Not
his house where he no longer lives
Criticizing his fire pit.
He doesn't even have the brain tumorto sort of explain why he is, you know,
being such a little bitch in this one.
hang on.
So is this fire pit inside the house?

(01:35:11):
Yep.
It's going to be, yes.
It's gonna be where that wall wasthat, um, Bobby and Michael destroyed.
Okay.
Yeah.
It doesn't seem safe at all, buthe's an architect, so I'm sure
he knows all about fire safety.
Mm. Um, but I, I do, I love that, likeKaren and Hen and like Karen is just
sort of looking at the, the construction,whatever, and Han's like, "It's greatness,

(01:35:34):
but don't you see the greatness?"
And Karen's just like, "No, no, no, no.I don't see the greatness." Which is
either incredibly good acting from thesetwo women or they just let them ad lib.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We get more party shenanigans.
Um, then we get a scene with, um, Bobbyand Athena where Bobby comes up behind

(01:35:59):
Athena while she's doing somethingwith the cake and he startles her.
Oh.
Like she literally jumps whenhe comes up behind her and
puts his hand on her shoulder.
Um, she does recover quickly, but it'sstill like, it's still a really sad
Yeah.
Trauma.
So much trauma for everybody.
Anyway.
Um.

(01:36:19):
He said he apologizes andsaid it was a great party.
And she says she had time onher hands and May deserved it.
It's been 30 years sinceshe's been a civilian.
"I'm not sure you're ready to have mehome. All at home all the time." Um, but
Athena, you have been at home before this.

(01:36:40):
There was,
Remember that time you got all of yourtaxes done like seven months before they
were required, or that time that you tookover cooking family lunch at the station
because you had nothing better to do.
Yeah.
Like you were justsuspended Athena, but sure.
You've had plenty of time not working.
I feel like that suspension stuffwas earlier this episode, right?

(01:37:03):
I mean this earlier, this season.
Yeah, it was earlier this season.
Anyway, let's, let's not remember that.
No.
'cause the writers didn't, um, butBobby says that he could get used
to Athena being at home becauseapparently he's also forgotten that
he's had that experience before.
Um, but says that he's not gonna getthe chance to get used to her having

(01:37:26):
at home because he knows that shecan't wait to get back out there.
And Athena's like, "Yeah, I can'twait to get back out there." And
then Bobby walks away and thesmile just drops off her face.
It's like, yeah, woo.
Can't wait to get back out there.
Oh.
And then it wouldn't be a season finalewithout a montage with a voiceover,

(01:37:50):
especially a voiceover that I don'treally know ties into the episode.
Then we get some like flash forwardswhile the graduation's also happening.
So yeah, we get a flash of Hen channelingher inner House by using the glass, um,

(01:38:10):
walls of the locker room to write noteson, and Chim walks up on the outside and
holds up a copy of the MCAT prep guideand says, "Can I help?" so he's accepted.
Yeah.
'cause Yeah, 'cause we didn't mentionthat, um, when they were dealing with
Milo, Chim fully meaning it this timesays that Hen is brilliant for managing

(01:38:33):
to, you know, intubate this kid, uh,without hurting him any further, Milo
is going to live because of Hen, becauseshe's actually brilliant and he's come to
accept that her brilliance is such thatshe really does deserve to be a doctor.
So yes, this is him showing her thathe has accepted that she is going
to be a doctor and she's going toleave him and he's going to help her.

(01:38:54):
Yeah.
Doesn't need all of the fun words.
He's going to, you know, show his support.
Aw.
Um, we also get.
Scene of Chris getting onto the busfor camp and Eddie's waving goodbye
and he opens a card Chris made himthat says, "You're gonna have a
great time. Love Christopher." Whichis in much better handwriting than

(01:39:16):
Buck's on the guest card, but sure.
Oh, it's so cute though, thathe made a card for Dad that
says you are gonna have a,
I love Chris's cards.
They're adorable.
You're gonna have a great timewith me not being around, Dad.
Oh yeah.
I think Chris is more worriedabout, um, Eddie than about camp.

(01:39:36):
Yeah.
Uh, what else?
We get Hen doing yet another practicetest and hovering while Karen
and Denny mark her paper and thencelebrating, because I guess she
got over the 511 that she wanted.
Mm-hmm.
We get Michael going on a datewith David at a restaurant.

(01:39:59):
Uh, we get, we go back to the graduationparty where Buck apologizes to Bobby for
the train and Bobby goes, "Yeah, it'sall right. We both got a little hot.
Are you doing okay?" Um, Buck just goes.
"Yeah, I think I am."
Um, so the voiceover has beenthrough these scenes and it's
Maddie and she's going, uh,people tend to fear the unknown.

(01:40:22):
We look ahead, but we also lookaway afraid of what terrible things
might be coming down the line.
We survive because wedon't face our fear alone.
We band together and wefind strength in numbers.
Truthfully, the not knowing that'snot something we should fear.
It's something we should embrace.
It's what makes this all such agreat adventure, because this life

(01:40:44):
you have to be ready for anything.
Which doesn't really tie in withthe episode title, but it does
tie in with what happens next.
Yeah.
So we go back to the graduationparty and Chim goes up to Maddie
and brings her a plate of food.

(01:41:04):
No, I think that's his plate of food.
Like she's talking to somebody andChim's standing behind her and she
spins around and he's sees whathe's eating, and pulls a face and
tells him that it smells terrible.
Yeah.
And Chim says that it's the salmonthing that she loved last time she
had it, and then she, then he goes, "Ican't believe you're still not feeling

(01:41:25):
well. Have you seen the doctor?"Like, we haven't seen her not feeling
well at all, but like she had a yawn.
But okay.
Again, with the, this is, this isanother line that makes me think
that something went terribly wrongwith this episode because we've got
the, still not feeling well yet.
We have not seen any evidenceof Maddie not being well.
Yeah.

(01:41:46):
I mean, yes, we had that yawn atthe beginning of the episode, but
there was no context to that yawn.
There was no, oh my God.
Are you still.
Like, are you sleeping okay?
Or, um, like anything to explain that thisis a, something that has been continuing.
Not just like a, a random yawn.
I think it's just Chim tellingus rather than showing,

(01:42:08):
but I want them to.
That's what I'm talking about.
It, it, something's gone wrong, butthey're not showing us that shit.
They're resorting to telling us.
Yeah.
Have you forgotten who wrote this?
Because it's very tell not show.
Um, anyway, Maddie immediately like, yes,panics and goes, "Oh my God, we have to
go right now." And she was like, "What?
Why?" And they justleave like, okay, sure.

(01:42:29):
But, but all right, we'llfinish off and then I'll, I'll,
I can feel a rant coming on.
So we're in Chimney's apartment 'causewe still dunno where Maddie lives.
I think Maddie's in wit-sec.
She we're not allowedto see her apartment.
She lives in the RV park.
It's very awkward

(01:42:50):
and Chim's pacing, likepacing back and forth.
And he is like, "Anything yet?" AndMaddie goes, "gimme a minute." And Chim
goes, "It's already been over a minute.
I mean, what's taking so long?
I thought all you had to do was peeon a..." and this is where Maddie
comes out of the bathroom and holdsup a like, positive pregnancy test.
And her face is like in shock.

(01:43:12):
Chim's like, "Are you sure?"And then she holds up another
stick, which is also positive.
And then they have a littlecelebration about being pregnant.
Like Chim Chim doesn't look too,
you're pregnant?
We're pregnant.
Convinced to start with, and thenthey are both very excited about it.
No, I do love that.
Like, Chim's like "You'repregnant?" And Maddie's like, I
didn't do this by myself, buddy.

(01:43:34):
We are pregnant.
We we're pregnant.
But yes, they, they both end up beingvery happy about the pregnancy and the,
the fact that they're having a baby,and that's where the episode ends.
Mm-hmm.
Randomly.
Um, okay.
So,
alright, let us have it,

(01:43:57):
Let's start with the pregnancyone, because that's so like the,
the whole woman suddenly findsfood disgusting equals pregnancy
is like a well established tropein, um, in TV shows and movies.
It's like, it's a cliche.
Um, yeah.
But we normally get more than oneinstance of woman finds food disgusting.

(01:44:20):
It was very sudden, wasn't it?
Not
It's like we saw Yeah.
It's like one time, oh myGod, I must be pregnant.
No, we need like, the, the audience needsto be able to put the dots together.
So we need, in order for me to fullybuy this storyline, it should have been,
we should have seen more examples ofMaddie complaining that she was tired.

(01:44:41):
We should have seen more examplesof Maddie actually being nauseous
and throwing up in the morning.
And then you start connecting the dots.
And when you get to the, oh my God,you're nauseous, you're throwing up.
Oh my God, you're suddenly so tired.
Oh my God, you find food disgusting.
You must be pregnant.
And they missed all of thatand just jumped straight to
the, oh my God, I'm pregnant.

(01:45:01):
Which makes it,
yeah, see the, like thevomiting trope does my head in.
I don't think I've known a single womanwho before they knew they were pregnant
was like full on vomiting at everything.
I think you can get it.
Usually it's only people who have,
it's a short hand in the movies.

(01:45:22):
Yeah, it is.
It is a trope and likea cliche, you're right.
Like all, all the friends I'vehad that have had children,
um, 'cause I only have dogs.
Um, the, the first symptomis always extreme fatigue.
Like, one of my friends, I knew shewas pregnant before she did because
she was super tired and I was like,they were trying, um, and I was like,

(01:45:43):
uh, honey, have you taken a test?
And she was just like, no.
Like I've had a really busy week.
And I was like, sweetheart.
Maybe take a test.
Um, I've never felt like,okay, that's not true.
I was gonna say I've never felt suchbone deep fatigue is when I was in my
early pregnancy, but I have since then.

(01:46:04):
Um, but, but no,
after the baby's born, yeah.
I do know people who have really bad,um, morning sickness and like to the
point where they are like, are throwingup so much, they can't keep anything
down often and they have to go intohospital to get put on fluids because
Yeah.
But that's not normally the first
that will happen.
That will happen very early.
That's not normally the first sign.

(01:46:26):
No, but not, not with most people.
No.
Yeah.
But I mean this, we've, we've, wellestablished this show is not good on
the realism, but the point is that likemovie and TV tropes is tiredness plus
nausea, plus food equals pregnancy.
It's like an easy way to
Oh, half the time they
don't even do the fatigue.
It's just the vomiting.
Just the vomiting.
But it's, it's an easy way to signalto your audience what is happening.

(01:46:47):
Yeah.
So the audience can feel clever when theyput those very obvious clues together
before the characters on the show do.
But we don't get a chance to do that here.
We get one clue and are suddenly expectedto jump to the same conclusion that
Maddie went to, which is like, you can't,
yeah.
There's no way that having watchedthis episode multiple times, there's

(01:47:09):
no way that you can know that she'spregnant just from what we get
to see of Maddie in this episode.
Yeah.
Um, so interestingly, I waswondering whether this was a
last minute addition to cover forJennifer Love Hett being pregnant.
Um, so I was doing a little like backwardsand forwards math and turns out, no,

(01:47:31):
it's just standard woman on TV show ishaving sex and is in a relationship.
Therefore the only viablestoryline for her is pregnancy.
It just so happened
right,
that Maddie's storyline of being pregnantthen later on coincides with one of

(01:47:51):
Jennifer Love Hewitt's pregnancies.
Oh, well they timed thatvery well then, didn't they?
There's no, there's no way that theycould have known when they wrote this
that she was going to be pregnant.
Yeah.
See, I assume they shoehorned itin because she was pregnant, but
No, 'cause I've got like, sothis season finished in, finished

(01:48:12):
filming around January or February.
Yeah.
But if it didn't air until,because they might have,
but, but Aiden wasn'tborn until August of 2021.
So that's a fucking long pregnancy.
Okay.
No, no.
Hang on, hang on.
What's nine months before August 2021?
November.

(01:48:32):
November.
November, 2020.
And they'd already startedfilming season four by then.
Oh, there you go.
Because I assumed that like they'dfilmed everything and then shoehorned
it in, which is why it seemed so weird.
No, but then they, they aired this episodein May of 2020, so like, Aiden wasn't even

(01:48:55):
a twinkle in anyone's eye at this point.
Yeah,
it was literally just,
there you go.
Maddie's like, Maddie either hascheating or pregnancy as her storyline.
We can't do cheating because we,
we just did that with Hen.
we'd have to deal with trauma,so therefore we need pregnancy.
And it's just, it just worked out that,you know, they started filming, they

(01:49:16):
get to season four and she's, they'vegot Maddie as like pregnancy storyline.
Then she comes to the producers andgoes, oh, actually I am pregnant.
I've gone.
Well, that's great timing.
Yeah.
Because like, it seems so shoehorned in
Yes, yes.
But then that might also justbe because of the way that the
episode was edited together.

(01:49:38):
Because they finished filming in January,February, and then everything shut down.
Yeah.
So the last four episodes have were theyhad to work with whatever they had shot.
They couldn't go back and do reshoots.
They couldn't do ADR.
They just had to deal with it.

(01:49:59):
So things got probably shoved inorder, like, we need this storyline,
but we, because it's gonna buildup the next season possibly.
If we're ever allowed to have anext season, God knows what's gonna
happen when that's gonna happen.
Yeah.
But we're, so we're just gonnashove it in 'cause we need it.
They're just in case.
Well, I, after having not known aboutthe, having to edit things in Tim

(01:50:23):
Minear's, uh, home office, I thinkthey did a brilliant job of finishing
off the last few episodes, then.
Like this, this episode is, uh,possibly the "Powerless" one.
But the, but before that, Ihadn't really thought that the
editors had done a bad job at all.
I think the episodes flowedtogether pretty well.

(01:50:45):
No, I, this episode'squite choppy, but like
this one, this one's not good.
Yeah.
Um, but yeah, the up till now it's, theydid well working from their couches.
Yeah,
I'm kidding.
I'm sure that all of theeditors have like, actual proper

(01:51:05):
computers in home offices.
I mean, it was the advent ofworking at home, wasn't it?
So we all, we all madedo with what we had.
Oh God.
That seems like such a long time ago now.
Five years ago.
I know.
It's insane.
I was going through my phone earliertoday actually to delete stuff 'cause

(01:51:26):
I was trying to clear space 'causemy phone's almost full and I can't
possibly get rid of the dog photos.
Um, but yeah, like I got to like2020 and I was like, oh my god.
Like just so many photosof me like bored at work.
Mm.
I was just going insanewith my children at home,

(01:51:47):
trying to work.
It was a great time to not have children.
And then I, I remember trying adopteda dog at the end, end of it was, and
I was like, this was a terrible idea.
I was trying,
Kidding, Autumn, I love you!
I was trying to work from home andhomeschool two kids at the same time.
Yeah, me too.
As well as do all the house stuff.
It was nuts.
Yeah.
Thankfully our schools didn't close much.

(01:52:10):
Can I rant about Abby now?
Yes.
Go for it.
Go ahead,
because I love Abby.
You guys know that I love Abby.
Yeah.
You know that I'm like big Abby supporter.
I hated Abby in this episode.
Yeah, that's understandable.

(01:52:32):
Mostly because I don't understand whyshe had to be there for this episode.
They just wanted to bring her back.
But why?
Yeah.
I mean they gave, theygave Buck some closure.
Yeah, but did he need the closure?
Well, I mean, Abby justkinda left him hanging.
I mean,
but like he'd already moved on.
We got the move on scene.

(01:52:53):
Yes.
In like season two.
Yeah, exactly.
We had "Haunted", we had him let her go.
And there has been nothing sort ofin the rest of season two or all of
season three to indicate that Buckis still kind of hung up on her.
There's been no,
only the references to Abbyin the last few episodes.
Well, but those were just to, you know,signal that we were gonna get Abby back,

(01:53:16):
but like, he was hooking up with Taylorand, but there was none like, oh, I can't
really hook up with you because I've got,you know, I've got issues with women.
Apart from the fact that like, I can'thook up with you because I don't want to
disrespect you because I've learned notto disrespect women, but it wasn't that,
you know, my heart is with someone else.
Get with anyone this season.

(01:53:37):
No, 'cause you're too tied up with Eddie.
Yeah.
Cool.
Um, but like there'sbeen nothing to nothing.
Again, there's been nothing to show usthat he's been preoc, that Abby has been
a preoccupation, that he needed closure.
They're just all of a sudden telling ushere she is so that Buck can get closure

(01:54:01):
that I don't think he really needed.
Yeah.
No, I don't, I don't see the pointof her being, it could have been
anybody, but I mean, it was niceto have her back for a little bit.
It was lovely to have her back.
But the other thing that pissed meoff is that she had such a dramatic
re um, reintroduction to the showand then they did nothing with her.
She went from being, from makingthis absolute kick ass 9-1-1 call to

(01:54:23):
literally just standing by and watchingthe men folk do all the heavy lifting.
Yeah.
And like she, she was in season one,we got a actually like, you know.
Yeah.
She pretending to save lives.
Yeah.
I mean, I know that she'sjust a 9-1-1 dispatcher.
She doesn't have any medical training.
She would be more of a hindrancethan a help if she actually

(01:54:45):
tried to pitch in and help.
But
She could have gone looking for survivors.
But no, instead it was, she'sjust moved on with a fiance
and she's just gonna stand thereand moon over these men while
everyone else works around her.
It just, it feels like such a waste.
And then when they do have that scenewhere she and Buck actually have a

(01:55:05):
conversation, Buck doesn't say anything.
Yeah.
No,
it's all Abby.
It's all Abby again, talking aboutherself, which is fine, but I feel like
if you were gonna have closure thatyou would want Buck to have more to
say to her, to like, to really explain.
And I know that Tim Minear has,and this is why I don't read the

(01:55:27):
interviews, 'cause you know, death ofthe author and everything like that,
I don't care what his intention was.
I only care about what actuallycomes across in the scene.
But he's, his interpretation ofwhat happened in that episode was
that, and I'm just gonna read it,was that, um, "Buck feels mature

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to me at the end of that story.
He feels like a guy whorealizes that a chapter is over.
It did them both some good.
And he can't be angry at her." And
I feel like he can be angry at her.
Yes.
Why can you not be?
I think he can be angry at her.
Why can't he tell her how he felt?
Yeah.
Yeah.

(01:56:07):
Why can't he ask her aboutthe letters that he sent?
Like, did you get my letter?
Can I please get some stuffoff my chest instead of just,
I'm happy that you're happy.
He does let it go very easily.
Which you could like chalk up to himbeing more mature and having gone
through lots of therapy and everything.
But I just, I wanted so much more fromAbby being back, and I did not get it.

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And it annoys me every singletime we get to this episode.
Mm-hmm.
So it was literally since "Haunted", whichis the episode where he moves out, right?
Mm-hmm.
Is that h That's haunted?
That's haunted,
yeah.
Cool.
So since "Haunted", it has been 19 months.
So apparently Abby found herself,found a guy with children

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and got engaged in 19 months.
No.
No.
But how long had she been gonebefore Buck gave up on her?
Because there was a good couple ofmonths between the end of season
one and episode six of season two.
So we say two years at least.
Yeah.
But like in Yeah, two years, which,like, if you wanna find yourself,

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don't jump into an engagement, likeBuck had so much more right to be
angry about the fiance thing when shewas like, I needed to find myself.
And it's like you haven't though, you'vejust jumped into another relationship.
She found herself in anotherman's bed, apparently.
Yeah.
No,
look, no, I'm, I'm notmad at Abby's storyline.

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I am.
I feel that that's perfectly acceptable,that she goes out, she finds herself
in Europe, she meets someone.
That relationship is a lothealthier for her than the
relationship she had with Buck.
I'm okay with that.
I'm just pissed off that they draggedher back into the story for this episode.
Yeah.
That if they're gonna bring herback, I wanted something more.

(01:58:04):
I wanted either her to be a littlebit more kick ass of her own accord.
Like she's apparently lost herselfand just become completely incapable
of doing and found herself.
But she can't do anything without Sam now,
yeah, she's, my life was all about helpingpeople, so now I just don't help anyone.
It's like, oh, okay.
Yeah.

(01:58:24):
Cool.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's like what I used to be really, Iused to be really proactive and, and now
I just stand back and observe everything.
Like whereas, well, like Maddie'swhole life was not helping
herself and helping other people.
She escaped Doug, but she'sstill helping other people.
I just,
Her fiance was introuble inside the train.

(01:58:46):
Maybe she was just having a, having panic.
No, but like, I wish that it, she'dcome back instead of doing the fiance
thing, she'd come back on her own merit
or she'd come back and done thefiance thing, but just had more,
was more active in this episode.
Yeah.
Had more of a, a role for herselfin this episode, and I understand
that they brought her backbecause it adds weight to the, the
Sophie's choice of do we save Sam?

(01:59:08):
Do we save the girl?
We have to save Sam becausehe's connected to Abby.
But I have a feeling that Buck wouldbe adamant that you had to save both
of them regardless of who it was.
'cause that's just Buck.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like he doesn't want anyone to die.
He didn't extra, we'vealready, like he, yeah.
He doesn't need the extra emotionalweight of, I have an emotional
connection to this guy through Abby.
It's just, there are two peoplehere and I'm going to save both

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of them 'cause that's who I am.
And like, I feel like they'regiving Abby a fiance just so
that Buck stops pining over her.
But like, they could have just had amature conversation where Abby could
have been like, you were great for me atthe time, but like, I've moved on now.
Like there, there could have beena conversation and there wasn't,

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again, we didn't see, wedidn't see the pining.
There was no pining,
No.
Like there should havebeen more conversation.
There should have been.
But instead it was just like, oh,I've got a fiance so you can't,
and Buck's like, okay, cool.
I've moved on.
Or
this scenario happenedat the end of season two.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
When the wounds are still fresh,

(02:00:14):
I feel like they then the fiance thingwould've been real fucking fresh.
Jesus.
I feel like, uh, like we've, this is notthe first time that I've thought this,
and I may have said it before that.
I think having such a big cuss, like I,I love the fact they have a big ensemble
cast and it's great to see all theirdifferent stories coming together and, but
I think sometimes the fact that they haveso many different people to follow around

(02:00:35):
means that we don't get the full depthof story progression that we could for
a lot of characters because there's notenough time to like go into every single
character's emotional journey throughthe whole of their arc for each season.
Yeah.
Which perhaps is what makes it sucha great, uh, vehicle for fan fiction

(02:01:01):
because there's plentyof gaps to be filled.
I think that it can bedone with an ensemble.
You just have to have writers thatare willing to write for every
single character and not havetheir, their preferred characters.
Yeah.
And that's, that's reallydifficult to juggle.
So like, we might have a little,we might have more of Buck's like
emotional progression with Abbyif he wasn't relegated to the "but

(02:01:24):
why" in like every second episode.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It would, it takes like a probablya lot more planning and finessing
across the whole of the season,and we don't seem to have that.
Oh, I'm not, I'm notsaying that it's easy.
It's probably really difficult to do whenyou have a, a rotating writer's room and

(02:01:47):
not like, you don't have the showrunnerwriting every single episode, a la Shonda
Rhimes or Aaron Sorkin, who have everysingle character's arc in their head
and are pulling it out every episode.
Yeah.
Um, but.
Anyway.
Maybe we should, maybe we shouldkeep that until next week.
It just, I felt unfulfilled.
I love Abby.
I wish that this episode hadbeen more for her and for us.

(02:02:13):
Yep.
I just think this episode is veryweak, especially for a season finale.
Yeah.
I mean, I thought the train,like rescue scenes were really
great, like high tension kind of,um, nail biting stuff, but Yeah.
Except for when they didn't actuallyshow us the rescue, they just hand waved.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That part up until the rescue part,
up until that part, like, I liked,I liked the brief tension where

(02:02:36):
you, like, where you found outthat they could only save one.
Yes.
And having the argument in the, inthe car and like all that stuff,
0.25 seconds of tension, whichthen was completely useless because
they saved both of them anyway.
They saved both anyway.
Yeah.
and Buck did what he wanted.
Yeah.
But yeah, it's just,it's a very weirdly paced
and then undercut with the factthat they kept cutting back to
Athena, just sitting at the tablelooking at her with a glass of wine.

(02:03:00):
Yeah.
I just, I just wish Athena's thing hadbeen earlier in the season, so she had
more time to decompress from it ratherthan literally like three scenes.
Yeah.
And we do say that in the past thatlike, um, we have said in the past
that characters don't get a chanceto deal with their trauma, but she
has, she is dealing with her trauma.
Well, she's trying, attempting to dealwith her trauma in this episode, but yeah.

(02:03:22):
Weirdly cut in between the high kindof tension scenes with the train.
Yeah.
Anyway, do you agree?
Do you disagree?
Um, it's probably too late to tell us now.
Well, you can, you can alwaysleave a comment on this
particular episode, let us know.
Yeah.
But it may not make it to ourseason three wrap up episode.

(02:03:46):
Yeah.
I think if by the time that,uh, listeners are listening
to this, it will be too late.
But, um, you can always leaveus comments and let us know.
So next week we are gonna do our wrap up.
Anything else to say about thisepisode before we go on by the way?
I could keep ranting about this episodefor a while, but I'm not going to,
'cause I actually wanna go to bed at some
point.
Yeah, me too.

(02:04:06):
Oh, but Bex, Bex...
no.
Season three,
no more ranting
No, no.
Season finals.
Season three or season six?
Oh, fuck.
Um,
ooh.
As in which is better or which is worse?

(02:04:27):
Well, like it's 50 50, so whicheverone's worse means the other one's better.
Oh, season three is worse.
Wow.
Did not like the ending for season six,but up until the last five minutes,
it was a well written, well paced,well shot, well constructed episode.

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The ending just sucked.
Interesting.
This one was Tim Minear just, likeeverything was scattered on his
living room floor and he is justpicking up pieces and slapping
them together and calling it a day.
If you're listening, Tim Minear, sorry.
I'm sure you did your best.

(02:05:09):
No, we're mad at him this week,
No, no.
See, I think at this point he'd alsomostly checked out of 9-1-1 because he
was too busy with his new baby Lone Star.
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(02:06:20):
Tries to talk the older man off hisledge, um, tries to calm him down, just
tries to talk the older man off
Okay, you know what, I'm done.
I'm not talking anymore.
Done.
Good night.

(02:06:42):
Okay.
Look, the exciting partis about to happen, right?
No,
we're hardly into the episode yet,
and it's not anythingto do with getting off.
Um, well, they get, they'reabout to get off the train.
Um, so....
Lucky train.
Poor El.
You know how Eddie does the,like the angry emoji and goes,

(02:07:04):
um, Abby, his fiance's Abby?
Ellen's just the angry emojiwhile editing his episode.
Yeah,
Ellen's just grabbing sound bitesand slapping them down together.
I don't care if this makes sense here.
I'm putting it here.
That's what I do every week.
It's an homage to Tim Minear.

(02:07:25):
I'm just gonna stick this bit here andthen I'm gonna stick this bit here.
If it's good enough for Tim,then it's good enough for me.
All right, all right,let's get outta here.
Um, okay.