9-1-1 Lone Star 2.03: Hold the Line

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9-1-1.
What's your emergency?
Welcome back to That WeeWoo Show, apodcast where we usually watch and
discuss episodes of the A BC show 9-1-1.

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But this week we're watchingand discussing an episode of
the Fox Show, 9-1-1 Lone Star.
I'm Bex.
I'm Alice.
And I'm Ellen.
And we have reached thecrossover episode where
we have!
Yes, we have, uh, Buck, Eddie andHen taking a trip down to Texas to

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join the 126 down on 9-1-1 Lone Star.
Yeehaw.
So is this just like Yeehaw Wee woo like,
yes.
Is that literally what it is?
Just 9-1-1.
It's weewoo yeehaw.
Yep.
But with cowboys?
Yep.
Okay.
I'm, I'm down
or with Cowboy.
Yeah, there's one of them.
I didn't get that from this one watch,one watching one episode, but okay.

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Is that Judd?
Judd's the cowboy?
Yeah.
Yeah, he does her littlebit of a Yeehaw accent.
Anyway, yes,
this is gonna be a, a very differentepisode because while once again,
Ellen has never seen this untilwe, we made her watch the episode.
Um.
You made me,
I have watched, I have watched "Holdthe Line", which is the name of the

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crossover episode, um, and I've watchedmaybe two episodes of Lone Star and then
I said, no, and I, noped out, so I don'treally know what's going on either.
Alice is the resident expert on9-1-1 Lone Star, having seen, have
you seen the entire series now?
The entire series.
Yep.
Okay.
So I dragged my feet through all ofseason one, um, with my ex promising me

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that it got better and as soon as I gotto season two, I continued to binge it.
Um, so yes, it did absolutely get better.
I know you were holding out on the finale,but you've seen that too now, right?
Yes, I believe I, yes I have.
Yeah.
And I'm like, did I?
Yes, I did.
I did watch the finale.

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I have this horrible habitof not finishing TV shows.
Um, but no, I did finish Lone Star.
Okay.
Um, so Ellen and I are going to plodour way through this episode, and we're
going to rely on Alice to give us sortof the, the context and the background
on what the hell is going on in thisepisode, um, because it is not the

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best crossover episode in the world.
But we'll, we'll just, we'llprobably discuss that a little bit
more at the end of the episode.
I mean, are any crossover episodesthe best crossover episodes?
Um, well, I still, I think that theycould have done a much better job
than the way they did this one, butI think that there's a reason why
we'll get to that,
why they did it this way, andwe'll get it into, at the end.
Well before I, before we start,um, I enjoyed having only come

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at it from one side, not knowinganything about the Lone Star side.
I really enjoyed the bits that, um, well,at least Buck and Eddie parts, like the
Hen parts were great, but like they, Idon't know if it was Hen's best work,
like, you know, in terms of the emergencyitself, but yeah, we can get into that.
But, um, yeah, from the, fromthe 9-1-1 LA side, I thought

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it was all right, but yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Maybe, maybe the crossover didn't workfor everybody, but we can get into that.
So
we can get into that
So this is episode two, seasontwo, episode three of Lone Star.
Titled "Hold the Line".

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This is from 1st of February, 2021,which aired directly after the
"Future Tense" episode of 9-1-1,which we spoke about last week.
Yes, yes.
So last week on 9-1-1, the 118 werecalled to Texas to help battle a wildfire.
Yeah, that's literally allthat happened in that episode.

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Well that's all that's relevant.
There was some other stuff.
Yeah.
Well, we'll go back to that next week.
Yeah, but it's not relevant.
The relevant part was that there's awildfire that um, may or may not have
been caused by the eruption of andormant, it was extinct, but Tim Minear
upgraded it to dormant volcano in Texas.

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I went back and looked at,watched the previous episode.
There is still no officialconnection between the wildfire
and the volcano, but I'm gonnaassume that that's what caused it.
No one's sure it's fine.
Just keep going.
Um, and the uh, Texas Fire Commissionput out the call for like all hands
for help and the 118 put up their hand.

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And so Buck, who is had his name onthe roster for like emergency call
outs forever, is thrilled to go.
He has to take Eddie with him.
'cause you know, that's part ofjust their relationship where
one goes, the other one goes.
Um, and then Hen who despite being theparent of two kids and in medical school,

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decided that she was also gonna go
Yeah, well the pay would be really good.
So,
I mean, the pay would be reallygood, but yeah, she's got
a lot on her plate already.
It would've made more sense forChim to go because he doesn't
have anything on his plate yet.
But I understand that.
No, I don't actually understandwhy, it was Aisha not Kenny, um,

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except maybe Kenny took one look at RobLowe and went, Nope, I'm not doing that.
He, he's got a verypregnant wife at the moment.
Well, I'm, she's well
girlfriend,
not extremely pregnant, butyou know, quite pregnant,
but he can't do anything, sonow it would be the perfect time
to go out and make that cash.
Yeah, I guess so.
He did ditch her for a long time,so maybe she's like, you're not

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fucking going to Texas with Buck.
And he's like, yeah, fair.
Yeah.
Okay.
Should, should we do the sum, theofficial summary for, uh, this episode?
Sure.
So this is the crossover,as we've already said.
The 126 is joined by the 118crew from Los Angeles to fight
an out of control wildfire.

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As a wildfire spreads across Texas.
Evan "Buck" Buckley, or this isthis, this nickname business,
Evan "Buck" Buckley, Henrietta "Hen"Wilson and Edmundo "Eddie" Diaz from the
118 Firehouse in Los Angeles, arrive inAustin to help Captain Strand and the 126.
As the crews raced to save agroup of teenagers trapped by the

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fire at a campground, Owen, andHen fight for their lives in the
aftermath of a helicopter crash.
And the triggers, um, the first one beingBex's specific trigger, which I, after
watching it, I can totally understand,
See?
Is Rob Lowe

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um, but we actually have wildfires,uh, hallucination due to traumatic
brain injury, kids at threat,references to wilderness therapy,
which we can talk about later as well.
Um, images of burns, childabuse, um, firefighters at
threat of fire and suffocation.
Uh, we have references to 9/11 andreferences to Hen's ambulance accident.

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Quite a lot in this episode, actually.
Um, so interestingly, when I firststarted paying attention to 9-1-1
via Twitter, which was during seasonfour, I was very confused because I'd
seen a lot of ads for Lone Star andI couldn't work out where Rob Lowe fit
into the 9-1-1 universe and then foundout there were two like different shows.

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They were just under the same like banner.
Um,
it's a franchise.
Yeah, because I, when
when did, when did, um,lone Star actually start?
Like during 2020
during season three.
Season 3,
9-1-1 yeah.
Yeah,
yeah.
Okay.
So,
so this is season two.
Um, and obviously original9-1-1 is in season four.
Um, but yeah, I watched a, likeI watch a lot of Parks and Rec.

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Um, it's on one of my rotation,like it's one of my rotational
shows that I sleep to.
And so like Rob Lowe is obviously in that.
And so I, like, I'd seen the adsand I'm just like, oh, that's
what he's doing at the moment.
But also, funnily enough, I workedwith a guy whose name was Rob Lowe.
Oh.
And so every time the ad was on, likeat work, I worked in an electronic

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store, so we had TVs everywhere.
Um, we weren't just randomlywatching TVs at work.
Um, every time the ad was on we'dlaugh because we're just like, oh,
look at you like fighting fires.
Rah rah.
Yeah.
Turns out they're twototally different shows.
And, but yeah, it was very confusingwhen I had only seen ads, hadn't
actually seen any of the show, andwas just like, oh, like I don't
understand like where the, like, whydo I never see these firefighters?

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And I say all over Twitter inthe ads for Rob Lowe's show.
Actually, you know what?
I remember being in a similar positionwith the two shows, um, not, not
that long ago, like fairly recently.
Around the time when like Buck gottogether with Tommy, like in later,
later seasons, and I, and everyone was soexcited and they were like saying like,

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you know, representation, all that stuff.
And I was like, isn't therealready gay people in this show?
Like there's already agay couple in this show.
Like there's guys who are acouple in the show and I'm like,
Oh, TK and Carlos.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's the other show.
The other show.
Yeah.
That's it.
The other show.
So I, it was a very confusingfor people who don't watch.
Yeah, that's it.

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Clearly.
Whereas I didn't know of theexistence of Lone Star until I found
out there was a crossover episode.
Oh, there you go.
Anyway, interesting.
Um, it gets into the,the drama quite quickly.
Like how do we wanna do this?
Do we wanna actually talkabout Lone Star at first or?
Yeah, I'll do a summary of Lone Star.

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So if you have watched LoneStar, uh, you can skip ahead,
like a minute or so, I guess.
Um, but if you haven't seen LoneStar and have just come in just
for the crossover, um, this is,
and you have no idea whatthe fuck is going on.
Yeah.
Which I think was most of us.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, this is for you.
So after an explosion wiped out nearlyall of the original 126 Firehouse

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New Yorker and nine 11 survivor, OwenStrand was recruited to lead a new
team of firefighters in Austin, Texas.
His crew include Judd Ryder, a gruffcowboy who is the only survivor of the
original 126, TK Strand, Owen's only son,an openly gay man and former drug addict.

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Marjan Marwani, also known as Firefox,a viral sensation known for her
recklessness and Instagram fame.
Paul Strickland, a trans man knownfor his intelligence and bravery.
And Mateo Chavez, a kindheartedformer delinquent who tries
to see the best in everybody.
Uh, also in the 126 is Tommy Vega,paramedic captain who has newly returned

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to the job after taking several yearsoff to raise her twin daughters.
Um, unlike in California,paramedics in Texas have their
own department and captain.
So Tommy leads to own teamalongside, uh, Captain Strand.
Right.
Which I was unaware of.
And so it confused me when, um, youlike later in the episode when they

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had to recruit Eddie as the paramedic.
'cause none of them were paramedics.
Yeah.
Although apparently TK isdual paramedic firefighter.
'cause he was like dualqualified in New York?
Um, yes.
That's what they Yeah, thatcomes in later in Lone Star too.
Um,
I just went on the wiki.
Yeah, because TK is from New York.

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He was paramedic trained, so he yeah.
Spoilers for Lone Star.
If you do decide to watch it, he actuallyjumps ship and goes into the paramedic
team later on 'cause they're down one.
Um, yeah.
So season two of Lone Star, which isnot explained in this crossover at all.
Um, started off with a bang, a volcaniceruption, wreaks havoc across Austin

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and resulted in the death of one ofthe 126 paramedics, Tim Rosewater.
And it happens in front of Captain Strand,
which is how we start the episode.
Yeah, we did work that out.
I worked that out fairly quickly.
But I mean, we never findout how this person died.
No, they never did mention, Idon't really mention who he is.
They don't mention how,like what happened.

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No, it wasn't until Alice wrotethis summary that I went, oh my God.
That's who the dead guy was.
Yeah.
Did not understand.
Yeah.
I mean I figured it was someone who haddied recently and right in front of Owen.
Yes.
But, but no furtherdetail is given at all.
No.
Like if I remember I was going to rewatchthe, for like, the episode before and

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then didn't, 'cause I was busy withRighteous Gemstones, but um, I, if I
remember right, like Tim was literallylike tending to a patient and talking
and then this like big like block of like
Yes.
On fire debris just takeshim out right in front of
Oh
Owen.
Damn.
Yeah.
Okay.

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Yeah.
So it is quite, um,
quite traumatic?
Yeah, quite traumatic.
But yeah.
So Lone Star's very diverse.
The reason that they give in theshow is that Owen's like specifically
told to build a more diverse house.
Uh, 'cause the firehouseswere known in Texas were known

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for their lack of diversity.
Like to the point where it's specificallysaid in the pilot that they had Civil
Rights come down on their asses.
Yeah.
Um, so, and the other houses are too slowto pick up on diversifying their crews.
So they see the 126, which was, you know,wiped out except for Judd, is the perfect

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opportunity to build a diverse house.
It's like the flagshipof Look, it can be done.
Um, so they recruit fromall over the, the country.
So, um, except for TK,who just follows Owen.
Um, but yeah, so Marjan is very known on,um, Instagram and the others... There's

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not real, like it's just Marjan and Paulreally, because Judd's already there.
TK follows Owen, and Mateo isalso already there, so Yeah.
But Mateo, Mateo wasn't a firefighterbecause the whole thing with Mateo is
that he wants to be a firefighter, buthe can't pass the damn written test.

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Yes.
So, so he starts as like a Probie
because his like, so all ofthem have labels and Mateo's
is that he he has dyslexia.
Yeah, he dyslexic and he is
Latino?
Let me, let me double check.
Yeah.
But I mean, even, even Judd who is likethe, um, the survivor of the 126 who

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looks like your good old typical Texansouthern boy, um, his wife is black.
Yes, Matt.
Mateo is Mexican.
Yeah.
And isn't actually a citizen,which is a whole other storyline.
Oh.
So we've got, we've got anillegal immigrant on the team.
Excellent.
Yeah.
Very diverse.
Um, yeah.
Yeah.
So, yes.

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Um, Judd, who is, you know, whitegruff Cowboy, his wife is black
and is the, um, 9-1-1 dispatcher.
Really sad that she's not in thisepisode because Grace is one of my
favorite characters in the show.
Um, but she's also not in thefinal season, so that's also shit.
And now that Bex has seen "SavingGrace", she is also mad about it.

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Yes.
No spoilers.
Just in case anyone actually wants to keepwatching Lone Star after watching this
look, if you, like, if you watchthis, this episode and want
to watch Lone Star Absolutely.
Like it does, I do enjoy it.
Um, especially after season.
Like season one, I didn't enjoy at all.
Um, as soon as Gina Torrescomes in, I binged it.

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Yeah.
Like, I, I love her so much.
Um,
she's great.
I, when she came on screen, Iwas like, she's from Firefly,
it's Zoey.
I know she's in heapsof other stuff too, but
she's in, so Yeah, that's,
she's always gonna be Zoey Wash.
That's, she's amazing.
So soon as she came in, Iwas just like, yes, I'm in.
I will watch this entire thing.

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Yes.
Um, but yeah, like the other cast, likethe rest of the characters get so much
better and then it's, then there's Owen.
Yes.
But yeah.
Um, TK is also dating a,um, a cop, well, uh, yeah.

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He's just a cop in thisseason called Carlos.
And so yeah, there's more diversity 'causeit's a gay cop whose dad is a, um, Texas
ranger, but he's also not in this one.
So,
yeah.
Well they couldn't have too manycharacters on screen at the same time.
The televisions would explode.

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I mean, they can barely explainwho these characters are, let alone
all of the secondary characters.
Yeah.
They can't, um, they can't haveCarlos and and Eddie on the same
screen 'cause it's too much pretty.
Um, alright, so I guess let's get into it.
Let's get into it and then you canexplain shit as it comes up, I guess.

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Yeah, pretty much.
Alright, so we're gonna start with whatI have realized is a dream sequence
flashback to the previous episode where wesee Paramedic Rosewater's untimely demise.
Yeah.
So with no explanation,
oh, is that what's going on?
I was very confused.

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Yes.
But then it's a dream sequence within adream sequence because Owen is dreaming
about the, the evening when he watchedRosewater die, wakes up, goes to the
bathroom to like refresh himself.
And when he looks up in the mirror,Paramedic Rosewater in all of his

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dead glory is standing over hisshoulder, and then Owen wakes up again.
And this time he's inreality and he is in a, uh,
but is he?
A tent?
It's like Inception.
Well, it, it's not Inception.
I'm not, I'm not gonnagive then that much credit.
Um, he, it is real this time.
He's in a, a tent at the base camp, um,in the wildfires and he's been woken up

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because apparently the winds have shifted,um, which is absolutely detrimental
when you're trying to fight a fire.
And the one thing that I really noticedabout this episode that I've got a
question in here because I was notgonna watch any more episodes that I
had to, was the color of this episode.
It's incredibly orange and it'sincredibly desaturated from what

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we are used to with the bright,vibrant colors of 9-1-1 Los Angeles.
Um, so yeah.
Alice, is this the normal color schemefor Lone Star, or did they just drop
the saturation and up the orangebecause they're fighting a wildfire?
I'm just gonna double check, butit's definitely more desaturated.

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Um, but the orange is the wildfire, butit's definitely usually more desaturated.
Um, it's almost like they havea filter over the whole show,
which if they're trying to representthat, like the air is filled with smoke
and the sun is like filtering throughthe smoke, which turns everything orange.
It's very realistic, it's very effective.

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It's just very shockingwhen you see it after.
Yeah.
Especially if you've just watched "FutureTense", which is, you know, very bright.
And then you come across tothis one and it's like, whoa.
Yeah, it's definitely more desaturated.
Like the color toning ismuch different from 9-1-1 og.
Um, but yeah, the orange isspecifically the wildfire.

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Okay.
Yeah.
And Owen is like filthy.
He's like covered in soot, looks like he'sbeen at this for a little while already.
He speaks to somebody andasks, how long was I out?
And the person said, almost an hour.
It's like, oh my God, he's,
that's all he needs!
Functioning on no sleep.
That's all he needs.
And so this, so at this point, as eachnew character comes on the screen,

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I'm looking at them going, is thissomeone that I need to know about?
Like, does the, does the usualaudience already know this character?
But, um,
yeah, like the, the chickMolly, do we, do we know her?
No.
No?
Okay.
Um, I will say, for those of you whoknow my usual rule, which is if a
character is name dropped, then I willname them, otherwise I won't name them.

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I'm throwing that rule out because Ihave no idea who these characters are and
I'm relying on the transcripts and theclosed captions to tell me who they are.
So yeah, then we get a bit ofexposition where we cut to a reporter
talking about the San San Angelo fire.
Um, so it's been weeks long.

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The officials are now saying theblaze has consumed more than 180,000
hectares with less than 5% containment.
And the resources here in West Texashave been stretched to the, their limits.
So help's now arriving fromneighboring states and then we get
a convoy of fire vehicles makingtheir way down into the hills.

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Um, so yeah, we got fire companies fromOklahoma, New Mexico, and as far away
as California who are sending equipmentand manpower to aid in the fight.
And then we cut to the 118 engine truck
And we all cheer, hooray!
they very much close up on the118 and basically like point to it

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because the, the segue is that, uh,the reporter is saying that it, the
arrival of all of these, these enginetrucks and ladder trucks has to look
a lot like the arrival of the cavalry.
Um, and then as we see the 118 pull up,it sort of stops on the passenger window
of the truck where Buck is fast asleep,with drool smeared all over the window,

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and it's like, this is the cavalry?
It's very much how, like they wererushing to the scene in the episode.
Yes.
Like two episodes ago.
And they were just in the elevator.
It's in the elevatorlistening to elevator music.
Yep.
Yeah.
I mean, to be fair,
and they've driven in thetruck all the way here.
Oh my God.
It's, it was Hen said, 20 hours.

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Google told me it was gonna be about 22hours, so she must have saved, shaved
it a couple of hours off the trip.
Um, but yeah, that's a long way to drive.
I'm not surprised that he's fallen asleep.
Yeah.
And through the desert too,like Yeah, it's not, it's not
fun driving, I don't think.
No.
Um, so yeah, so Hen wakes buck up andas Buck climbs down, he is immediately

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smacked in the face with the air.
So he like specifically says,"what's up with the air?"
And Hen's just like "The wildfire?That's why we're here." He's like, "No,
it, it feels like getting slapped witha wet towel." So then we get Eddie, who
is a Texan, and he's like, "Yeah, it'scalled humidity. Welcome to Texas."
And then we go to the title card.

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So not only welcome to TexasBuck, welcome to Texas everyone.
After the title card, we cut to the,um, official briefing where, uh, deputy
chief DeLeon from the San Angelo FireDepartment, who is the acting incident
commander, is welcoming everybody.
But while he's talking, Buck isdoing a, like, he's not even trying

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to hide the fact that he is staringat somebody off to his left.
Yeah.
Full on.
Just staring.
He's just like, his head iscompletely turned to the side.
He's flat out staring at Marjan tothe point where everybody notices
and calls him out on it, likeHen tells him to stop staring.

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And when he argues, "I'm not staring,"Eddie chimes in and said, yes, you are
staring, and then you cut to Marjan whois standing over with TK, who notices Buck
staring at Marjan and leans over to herand says, "That guy's staring at you."
Um, and then, yeah, when Marwanilooks over at the 118, Buck's just

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like looking at the sky and like,
and
It's like, don't look suspicious.
And like we know, we know Buck, weknow that he, I guess the possible
implication is that he's staring ather because she is a Muslim woman.
Like, maybe they're, they're pushingthe, you know, oh, Buck's bigoted.

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But you know that there's somethingelse going on in his brain.
Oh no.
I thought it was just'cause she was pretty,
I mean there is also that.
She is pretty,
she's very pretty.
Um, yeah.
So while Buck is trying his best topretend that he wasn't looking, um,
the incident commander, who should belike, in charge of everything, steps

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aside to let Captain Strand give amotivational speech to the troops.
Yeah.
Apparently, um, Captain Strandis the operations section chief,
which I would've thought that theincident commander would've been
like the one to give the motivation.
But Rob Lowe is the one not that needsto have all of the lines in the episode.

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Um, all the attention on himself.
So he's going to give, and it'slike there's even like the stirring
music coming up underneath to know,really target the heartstrings.
He doesn't say anything interesting.
No.
One last shot to turn the tide.
Cut a containment line.
Okay.
Off you go.
Yep.
That's pretty much it.

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Yeah, that's about it.
Buck is still staring atMarjan to the point where Hen
threatens to call HR on him.
And we finally, he, wefinally get a reason.
He's like, "I swear, Iknow her from somewhere."
He's just like staring at herhoping that the, the cogs would
click over and would make sense.

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Um, it hasn't yet, so hejust looks super creepy.
Yeah, super creepy.
So while that's going on, uh, wehave the, the chick, I don't know
who she is, I don't know what herrole is, but she comes up to Owen
and says, "We have a situation."
And, and Judd also followsthem over to somewhere else

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where they have a conversation.
And I, this is with the pointwhere I realized that this was
Judd, because I knew that he wasJudd because he's in Supernatural.
Yes.
He's Dean's siren, theguy in Supernatural.
He's the guy from the Siren episode.
And, and it was funny becauselater he's talking to somebody
and he's way taller than them.

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I don't remember who he wastalking to, but I'm looking at
him going, he looks freaking huge.
He's, he's a broad shouldered dude.
And, well, he could have been thatthe, the person he was talking to was
short, but I just remembered him notbeing that huge from Supernatural.
Oh no, he's six three.
He's,
it's just because
it's a big boy.
Yeah.
It's just because Jared Padalecki and,and Jensen Ackles are gigantic themselves,

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that that's why he didn't look so huge.
He looked normal in Supernatural.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's right.
Anyway, yeah.
He's a big dude.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
So, yeah, they're, they're talkingabout, so there's been a bunch of
kids up in the forest who are camping.
Eight kids, one counselor, and theyhaven't been in contact, so they're
asking if they can get a chopper up there,but it's too dangerous, so someone's

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gonna have to go in and find them.
Yeah.
So it's a camp for at risk teens, sothe kids aren't allowed cell phones
and Yeah, they can't get an engine upthere because the roads are all on fire.
And Judd's like, "well, you couldgo get to it with ATVs. Um, and I
used to ride around on ATVs in woodsjust like this growing up. So like,
I, I'm happy to help." And so theyappoint Judd strike team leader,

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and then one by one theothers all volunteer.
Um, so Owen says they're gonna have aneight man team and take a medic with you.
And then behind them they getEddie piping up and saying, "I'm a
medic." And he introduces himself.
But, um, he, they ask him if he's aparamedic and he's like, "I'm just a

(28:31):
firefighter, but I was a medic in thearmy." And I'm like, wait a minute,
wait.
Yeah, I had the same,
are you not a paramedic?
This whole time I assumed thatbecause they had Eddie operating
in paramedic roles in the 118that he was like Hen and Chimney.
He was a paramedic firefighter.
Yeah.
Like he's treating people all thetime, like in a medical capacity

(28:54):
Because he was a medic in the armyhe has more medical knowledge, but
he hasn't actually passed the likemedic or the paramedic side of it.
But wouldn't that be like alegality issue when you've got
someone who doesn't have currentqualifications acting as a paramedic?
I guess it's like, eh, you'reCPR trained, you'll do,

(29:14):
uh,
because, and they dospecifically say take a medic.
So like he's not,
no, they say that becausenone of them are medics.
But yeah, as you said, none they need,they have specific, they have separate
paramedic team, so they would have togo somewhere else to find a paramedic.
'cause apparently there are none on site.
But so it just, so it works out thatEddie is there and he can come in,

(29:37):
but I just assumed that they went,when he started his firefighting
training, they went, oh, we, it's likethat prior learning sort of stuff.
When you're in uni, they go, okay,you've already done these courses
so you don't have to do them.
We're just gonna assume that allof that knowledge is known and
they'll fast track you throughthe paramedic firefighter part.
Yeah.
Who knows?
Well, there are some thingsin this episode that they

(29:59):
get wrong for the OG 9-1-1.
So I am choosing to believethat they got it wrong.
This is one of thosethings that they got wrong.
That he is a dual firefighter paramedic.
That's my, that's my littleworld that I'm gonna live in.
Well, he is never in the ambulance.
I don't know.
Anyway, he goes with them anyway.
He goes with them,
they roll out.

(30:21):
Yeah, Judd specifically callshim "Hollywood" and yeah.
Meanwhile Buck is just like hangingaround the 118 engine truck.
I think he's unpacking andgetting all this shit out,
but he's all on his own.
And then Hen appears and he is like,"Where have you been?" Uh, so Hen
took a tour of the medical unit, askswhere Eddie is and Buck's like, "I

(30:43):
don't know, you guys abandoned me.
Why did we drive all these, uh,drive these trucks all the way
here from LA just to park them?"And Hen's like, "oh, well the only
way up to the fire lines by foot."
It's like, why are they here?
Um, but yeah, it's so that theycan be used as they see fit.
Yeah.
They're going into a motor pool.
Yeah.
So Buck's not happy about the idea ofstrangers on his, uh, on his rigs and

(31:10):
Hen's like, "No, there's no strangershere, just grunts with shovels." So
she throws a shovel at him and he islike, "Yeah, well, where's yours?"
And she's like, "oh no, Ivolunteered for Base Camp
Medical Unit, but have fun. Bye."
Yeah.
At which point Eddie comes backand Buck's all like, "oh my God,
where the fuck have you been?
Can you believe Hen's abandoning us?

(31:31):
She's not going up on the fire line." AndEddie is like, "I'm not going up either."
Well, actually he doesn't, he doesn'tget a chance, um, because before he can
say anything, uh, Marjan rolls up in anATV and just says, "You ready, soldier?"
And Buck I don't know whether it'sthe fact that she, Marjan is there,
that she's talking to Eddie, or thathe's realized that Eddie is not gonna

(31:54):
be joining him on the fire line.
But his mind is just blown at this point.
He's so shitty.
He's like, "You're going withher?" And Eddie's like, yes.
I would also just like to point outthat um, they have had a slight uniform
change for going down to Texas and thegray marle is really working for Eddie.
Oh.
Like, yes.

(32:15):
The filter that they put on thisepisode makes them all look so pretty.
It makes 'em look so pretty.
But like the, the light shirts
mm-hmm.
The, like the navy shirts are good, butyou can't kind of see the definition.
But the gray, you can, you can see the,like, the definition of the muscles.
Um, I very much appreciate them.
Texas very much suits Ryan Guzman.

(32:36):
Um,
I swear that's, but I'm done.
I'm done.
I swear.
It's okay.
You can thirst.
It's fine.
She's, she's not done.
It's fine.
Um,
she's not done.
Buck has finally figured outwhere he knows Marjan from.
Penny has finally dropped.
Oh no.
She is Firefox.

(32:57):
She is Firefox
and Eddie and Hen bothjust look at him like.
And?
Who's that?
But, apparently he followsher on Instagram and she's
gone viral like five times.
Um, he's, he's so sad though, because hefollows her and she won't follow him back.

(33:18):
Oh yeah.
For some reason,
for some reason.
Um, but yeah, Buck's very mad atHen and Eddie for abandoning him.
Yes.
Yeah, he's like "Abandoners."
So inside the tent, uh, we getCaptain Strand, uh, having a
FaceTime conversation with, um, GinaTorres, who, whose name is Tommy.

(33:44):
I don't know.
I didn't, I didn't know what hername was through any of this.
Like they say, they call her by name,but by her last name at I at one point.
I never knew that her name was Tommyuntil you guys mentioned it later, so.
Mm. Yeah.
I think he calls her CaptainVega at the end of the episode.
Yeah, yeah,
yeah.
So, yeah, I, I had no idea what wasgoing on in this scene, first time I

(34:08):
watched, and I'm still not entirely sureI understand the purpose of this scene.
Yeah.
Well, I didn't even connect the, sohe's talking about, talking to her about
Paramedic Rosewater's funeral, which wastoday, and for some reason I didn't make
the connection that that was the personhe was seeing in his hallucinations.
Nope.
Neither did I.
I didn't, he was just apologizingto her for some reason.

(34:30):
I'm like, okay, this is an episodethat we never saw and I don't
know what the connection is.
So, meh.
Yeah.
I also didn't understand why hethought that it would be such a big
deal for Tommy, that this guy washaving his funeral today and that why
she, you know, would be strugglingand he needed to check in on her.
Like,
like funnily enough, like Tommy justcame back to the job and Rosewater was

(34:54):
just like, "Ugh, I don't even want herhere." And now she's, now he's dead.
And it's just like, okay, bye.
Like, it did not affect me at all.
I was like, okay, see ya.
You were kind of a jerk.
Yeah.
So basically Owen is calling her to checkin because he was a paramedic and she's
the paramedic captain and he's assumingthat she's gonna take this death really

(35:14):
hard, but it actually seems like he's theone that's taking the death really hard.
And it's, it's all very much, he'sdeflecting his own trauma on her.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And she clocks that at one point.
She's like,
literally like, Tommy's like, Idon't care, but you are the one that
had the guy die in front of you.
So like, are you okay?
Uh, but before he can answer,um, the chick comes back and

(35:38):
it's like, you wanted this stuff?
I've got this stuff for you.
And he is like, oh, thankGod I can end this call.
I, I don't understand whatwe got from that scene.
It was just to be like, Hey look, Tommyexists 'cause we paid her for this whole
season and we should probably use her.
Well, I guess it's showing thathe's struggling with whatever
happened, but I didn't really...

(35:58):
oh, I don't care.
work that out until much laterwhen he starts seeing the dead guy.
So I don't know.
And he's, he's just, he just goes, "oh,I've gotta go." And then he just hangs up.
He doesn't even say,
he literally hangs up on her.
He's like, yeah, okay.
Bye.
Let's go back to some more fun stuffwhere we've got the strike team
heading out to find the campers.

(36:19):
And we've got Judd and Eddie in theATV, um, where Judd is all set to
absolutely um, ruin Eddie, but for,for being some kind of fancy la boy
until Eddie reveals that actuallyhe's from El Paso, so he is a Texan.

(36:40):
Yeah.
And Judd immediately is just like,oh, where'd you go to high school?
It turns out that they were in likethe same football, I'm assuming
that it's football, that they werein the same kind of football league
and they like, they're two schools.
Well, it was state, like they,they compete as a state, so
like through state high school.

(37:00):
Yeah.
Things
I, I dunno.
But their high schools played against eachother and Judd's team would whoop, um,
Eddie's school's team like every year.
Um, but he just, he looks so thrilled.
Like he's found a new friend.
Yeah.
And then, uh, the othertwo race past them.

(37:22):
And like whooping as they go by.
So, and, um,
Well, Marjan's whooping.
I'm pretty sure Paul's justhanging out for dear life.
Yeah.
Paul just goes along with the flow.
Uh, Paul and Marjan arebest friends, by the way.
Okay, good to know.
Um, yeah,
and Eddie's like, "Is she alwayslike that?" And Judd's like, "yeah,
always." I guess that comes with theInsta influencer territory, right?

(37:47):
Well, she's not really an influencer.
She's just more, she posts a lot onInstagram, posts a lot about, yeah.
She's known for doing likedangerous things just for likes.
Okay.
She's a bit of a hothead,
but it's not like she's, you know,um, getting sponsorships and doing

(38:09):
paid posts for cosmetics or thelatest, like whatever soda is popular.
Yeah, she's viral.
She's not really an influencer.
Yeah.
Uh, but they make it to the camp.
Uh, they find the kids, except theycan only find seven of them and no
adults because apparently the eighthkid, JJ was off doing his solo.

(38:36):
Um, and Mr. Gomez, the camp counselorwent to look for him and never came back.
So.
Marwani asks what a solo isand Judd immediately answers.
"Yeah.
It's two nights mandatoryalone in the woods.
It builds character and self-respect,but it's pretty, usually pretty
well monitored." And Paul's like,"ah, you know that how?" and Judd

(38:59):
immediately changes the subject.
So yeah, he asks if Mr. Gomez hasa cell phone, and, but there's
been no call in eight hours, soit could just be bad reception,
but it's not because as they'rechecking over the kids, Eddie notices
Mr. Gomez walking toward them.
He's like wrapped in a blanket.
He's wheezing.
He looks to be in terrible shape.

(39:21):
He couldn't find JJ, but it lookslike he got into trouble himself.
Um, because he is not breathing.
Yeah, he's not in great shape.
Um, he collapses.
They ask where JJ is and hesays he couldn't find him.
And that's where Eddie's like,yeah, he's stopped breathing.
Yeah.

(39:41):
So Eddie takes over, um, and doeshis non-qualified paramedic stuff.
He's, he's putting, like, he's gettingfluids into him, so they grab an
IV bag and they put him on a picnictable, which is nearby to lay him out

(40:01):
so they can get to him more easily.
And then they, they can't hear anyair... like his, they reckon his
lungs are intact, but he, he's not,his chest isn't rising when they..
Are they giving him like EARor anything at this point?
Like they're not, no, they're just,I can't remember what's happening.
They're just listening to him, um, andnoticing that he's struggling to breathe.

(40:23):
Like there's no sort of inhale.
Exhale.
Um, I was trying to remember how theywork out that he's chest is constricted
because if he's not breathing it's like,
oh, I think, whatever, um, magical,um, ability they have in LA to just
look at somebody and diagnose them.
It's followed Eddie down to Texas andsince he's like the breaking paramedic

(40:44):
in this scene, he gets the ability.
Um, but they do also like cut hisshirt off and reveal that he has
that, even though his shirt seemsto be perfectly intact, um, he's got
I was wondering that, I was like,how, how did his chest get burned?
Yeah,
when his shirt's fine.

(41:06):
I dunno, but like, likevery uh, very deep.
Um, very,
my only assumption is that he got likeclose to the fire and so his skin,
no, but the shirt, the shirtshould have done something as well,
surely the fabric...
no, because like when you are inthe sun for a long time, right?

(41:26):
Your shirt doesn't catch on fire,but your skin still can burn.
Like, you can still get seconddegree burns from the sun,
but he's got like full thicknessburns under a perfectly intact shirt.
Yeah, the fire's hot.
It's fine.
Maybe he breathed in hot air andit burned him from the inside?
Anyway.
So they have to cut his chest.

(41:47):
Yes.
For the drama.
He, they, for the drama of the revealof them cutting open his shirt, reveal
that he's got like full thickness burnsand the, it's, um, Eddie informs us via
Marjan that the burn tissue is called"eschar" and it is constricting his chest.
It won't expand, um, whenthe lungs, uh, fill up.

(42:13):
So he's struggling to breathe.
So they're going to have tocut through that burn tissue
to give his lungs room to move.
And they're gonna have to doit now on the picnic table.
Well, they do have a bag.
Yeah.
So that's how they worked out thatthere was nothing filling his lungs.
'cause they did bag him andit wasn't doing anything.
What you mean like trying to givehim extra oxygen or something?
Yeah.

(42:33):
Okay.
And then they, they get him readyand Eddie says, he looks at Marjan.
And he goes, "I hope you're notsqueamish." And I'm like, oh no.
She, she's like, come on.
And I'm just like hidingbehind my fingers.
I just found it incredibly ironicthat the, um, the incision that Eddie
makes is he does the like traditionalautopsy y incision, which is what

(42:58):
we saw Hen doing in the previousepisode on an actual cadaver.
Yeah, well not Hen doing it,but like the people around Hen
and she was participating it,so I just found that funny.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it works.
Eddie didn't faint.
No.
And he was doing it on a A live person.
A live person, yes.
Oh my God.
And it works.

(43:19):
I don't know whether it's the fact that...
probably smells like barbecue.
Ew.
I don't know whether it's the factthat his lungs now have room to move
or the pain of being cut open whilehe is still like un anesthetized.
But it works.
And uh, Mr. Gomez wakes up andimmediate, his first word is

(43:42):
"JJ, like, where the hell is JJ?"
And uh, they're trying to sayto him like, take it easy.
Take it easy.
And Marjan says, "Nicely done, Diaz."And Eddie goes, "You too, Firefox."
And it's like, hang on, you didn'tknow who she was a minute ago.
You just taking this knowledge from Bucknow and claiming it as your own knowledge.

(44:05):
But I mean, we can sort of assumethat that's how Eddie operates.
Like Buck just tells him randomweird stuff and he just takes
it in, you know, for later.
I mean, he did he did say in the lastepisode that, you know, sometimes
he can know the weird stuff.
So I mean, it is possiblethat he knew who Firefox was.
But I assume that yeah, he's justabsorbed that knowledge from Buck.

(44:28):
Yeah.
He's absorbed it
and he's using it to make himself lookgood and to forge a connection with her.
Um, and then speaking of Buck,we go to see what he's doing.
So while Eddie's riding aroundin ATVs and performing emergency
surgery, um, Buck is with TK and Mateo
digging a firebreak,

(44:49):
and they're holding the line,
But Buck is reenacting Disney's holes.
Um,
"I'm tired of digging grandpa."
"Well, that's too damn bad." I mean, he'snot actually, they're not digging down.
The, the purpose is they're removingthe vegetation and they're loosening
the soil because the soil, if it'sloose like that, there'll be more ox.

(45:12):
It's easier to use itto a throw on the fire.
And it also, um, absorbs the fire andstops the fire from sort of going further.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
But yeah, so they're digging
and just like, um, Judd was likedigging for information from Eddie about
being in LA, Mateo is also wanting,is fascinated by the fact that Buck

(45:34):
is from LA but for a different reason.
Uh, yeah.
So Mateo has a cousin in LA called Marvin
You don't say, really?
And he's like, "oh, people say we lookalike. Maybe you know him." Um, so the
joke here is that Mateo is played bythe same actor who played the Car Thief
that a Athena arrested in season two?

(45:57):
I think it's like the startof season two, I thinks two.
Episode two.
Yeah.
It was just before the earthquake.
Yes, it was the earthquake.
Yeah.
So it was, yeah.
The beginning of season two.
Yeah, the beginning of season two.
Um, so yeah, it's the same actor.
They liked him so much, theyshipped him down to Texas.
Um, but yeah, so they, they look veryalike because they're the same person.
But yeah, so Buck's like, "yeah, it's,it's kind of a big place." And Mateo's

(46:19):
like, "no, no, I know, his, his lastname's Chavez." Buck's like "Yeah.
I, I don't think so." But yeah,Mateo explains, "He's in jail
anyway," and then they starttalking about their crazy calls.
So Buck's like, "Yeah, you have no idea."But TK is like, "yeah, we get our fair
share in Texas," and Mateo's just like,"Oh, you ever get a call in Disneyland?"

(46:39):
And Buck's like, "That's Orange County."
But I just think it's funny 'causethey're, the two different shows
obviously have like have the samelevel of dramatic everything.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And, but it just happened that theyjust needed to, you know, one up
each other in terms of what happened.
It's very cute.
Yeah.
So Mateo is like, "oh, but like OrangeCounty's LA, right?" And Buck's just like

(47:02):
"Yeah, sure." And yeah, so apparentlythat's the only place they don't go.
Yeah.
So we're always wondering like,how far out does the 118's kind
of sphere of responsibility go?
Apparently not Orange County.
They don't go
not to Disneyland.
They like when they're initiated intolike the 118, Bobby takes them up on

(47:24):
the roof and is just like, "Everythingthe light touches is our kingdom."
That dark place over there?
With the castle?
We don't go there.
No, we don't go there.
You must never go there.
But the, the mention of Disneyland, um,prompts Buck to go, "oh, well we did get

(47:45):
called to an amusement park once. Youknow, I, I had to scale a rollercoaster
'cause there was a guy hanging fromby his bare hands," and I'm watching
this going, Buck that traumatized you.
Yeah, that was, and they're like,"Oh, you saved a guy hanging
from a rollercoaster?" uh,
He's like, "Ah, actually no."

(48:06):
but yeah, good job Buck,
poor Buck.
Thanks for bringing that up.
But then that prompts TK to go, "oh,you had a guy who let go. Well, I had a
woman almost drown on me in less than afoot of water. She was trapped in a bus"
"upside down in the middle of the street."
And then Buck's, like, "oh, youhad a bus rescue? We had a bus

(48:28):
rescue, but it was sticking out thefifth floor of an office building."
And Mateo's looking betweenthem just like, "oh my God.
Oh my God.
Oh my God." And TK is just like, "Yeah,we had an active volcano last week."
It's like, put it away, boys.
This is not the time northe place to be measuring.
Um, and I'm pretty sure based,based on your like comparative

(48:50):
sizes, Buck's gonna be bigger.
I thought it was just a cute, like,bonding moment between all of them though.
Oh, no, no, no.
TK was like, he's trying to,trying to like get one up on Buck.
He's, he's eyeing buck upand down this whole time.
Um,
oh yeah.
Anyway, so yeah, while Buck's saying,"yeah. Yeah. I saw something about

(49:12):
the volcano on my Twitter feed."
Um, TK looks up the hill and realizes thata car, which is on fire, is rolling down
the hill and is heading straight for them.
So he slams Buck to...
this is extremely random,
knock him outta the way while Mateodives to the side, because TK is just

(49:33):
like, yeah, screw that guy, you know?
Save the pretty one.
Save the pretty one.
Yeah.
But it's not, it's not justthat he slams Buck to the side.
He takes like, it takes him likea meter or self running and then
he launches himself into Buckto knock him off to the side.
Not the pretty face,

(49:54):
but yeah, the, I don't the caron fire, like it, it came from,
I don't get this at all.
Yeah,
it's weird.
It came from the hills.
The hills were on fire.
What the fuck is a cardoing up in those hills?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, we find out in aminute because a dog jumps outta
the driver's seat and I'm like,what the, does the dog drive the C

(50:15):
Like, don't what is going on here?
I'm so confused.
Well, no, I mean, they do explain thedog part because the, the driver, the
driver shows up and says that the dogmust have like knocked the park brake off.
It still beggars the questionof A, what was the car doing up
in the hills that are on fire?
And B, where did the driver come from?
Like, why wasn't the driver in the car?

(50:36):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Why is the driver not on fire?
Are you taking, are you taking your dogfor a walk in the middle of a wildfire
and then you locked your dog in the carwhile you, like, it's all very dramatic.
Why was the driver not up thehill where the car came from?
Where did the fire come from?
The whole thing is...doesnot make any sense at all.

(51:01):
Whole, but yeah, whole thing.
Like for the drama, like even like evenmore for the drama than we are used to.
It just,
they just wanted TK to tackle Buck, andthey were like, yeah, let's just put a
car on fire and then everything unraveled.
It's, it's the equi, it's like,it's the equivalent of Buck and
Eddie meeting for the first time.
Yeah.

(51:22):
But,
um, it's, but nothing,nothing really comes of it.
Like he, he just says
even Buck is like, "so that was weird."
That was weird.
It's like, right.
And then he says, "Nice move by the way,good reflexes." and then, uh, that's it.
Like we don't, yeah.
Nothing else comes of that at all.
And TK says "yeah, you too,"and Buck starts having "Whatta
Man" playing in his head.
It's very strange.

(51:43):
Yeah.
It's, I think, I don't know.
It's, it's meant to be a bonding momentbetween TK and Buck, but just, why?
It's strange.
I didn't get it.
It didn't, it was unnecessary.
Like, I don't think
three quarters of thisepisode is unnecessary
They could have just done withthe dick waving beforehand
this entire episode is unnecessary.

(52:03):
But
no, it is necessary purely for thescene that we will talk for, talk
about, for 10 minutes at the end.
All right.
I will say it is necessaryfor the Judd Eddie friendship,
which I think is amazing.
And I will, like Eddiefits in so well down here.
Um, so I accept that.
I'll accept the scene atthe end, which I adore.

(52:24):
The rest of it can like goto Texas in a hand basket.
Um,
I do like, I like the dickmeasuring competition.
I just don't understand how that ended.
Like it's strange.
Yeah.
That the car was weird.
Okay.
The car was weird.
Alright, so this is coming from someonewho will like, who likes dogs in episodes
and I was still like, why is therea dog here all and why you on fire?

(52:46):
We have checked in with Eddie.
We have checked in with Buck.
Now it's time to check in with Henwho's hanging out at base camp where
there are no emergency surgeries.
There are no dogs in cars on fire.
She's just doing basic first aid.
Um, when Eddie comes over the radiochecking in where he's updating the

(53:10):
med unit that they've got seven minorscoming their way with mild dehydration,
smoking inhalation, and one adult malewho's coming in, in critical condition.
And he will need a life flight out.
And Hen upon hearing Eddie's dulcettones immediately dives across the
tent to take control of the radio.

(53:34):
Yeah.
It's like, um, Hen just do your job.
Like, I don't know.
She, she has to getinvolved, which is fine.
I mean, okay.
It's her boy, so, you know.
Yeah.
But she doesn't addanything to the situation.
No.
No, not really.
She's not helping.
She just says "you're sending outseven. I thought you had, you went up
there for eight people?" and, um, Eddieexplains that one kid's still missing.

(53:59):
So they're, they're searching and Hensays, you got about two hours of daylight
left and the wind reports are not good.
And she's like laying it downlike you're running out of
time, like hurry it up there.
So
he is like, you're not my real mom.
Thank you?
Pretty much.
Yeah.

(54:20):
Um, so the couple of guys from the Austin126 are Judd and Paul and they're driving
around and one the ATVs yelling for JJ.
And while they're doing that, um, Juddmentions that where they're driving
they may have already passed JJ's camp.

(54:41):
And that reminds Paul that Juddnever actually explained how he knows
about the, the wilderness retreat.
So he asks him like, "Hey man, younever told me how you know about
those things?" And Judd goes,"yeah, I didn't, did I, Hey JJ!"
And Paul's just like, "you know, Inever really pictured you as one of

(55:01):
those at risk camps." And Judd turns tohim and stares at him for like a good
three seconds and just like, "and whythe hell not?" And Paul's like, Hmm.
All right.
Fair point.
Keep in mind these people have knowneach other for like a year at this
point, so it's just like, ah, yeah.
Okay.
Um, funnily enough, Bex has nowwatched the episode and knows why

(55:24):
Judd was at one of those camps.
Well, I, I assume that thatwas why he got sent to camp.
Yes.
You don't have to explain.
It's okay.
No, we won't.
'cause I still want you to watch theepisode because it's still a good episode.
It's like the one episode of Lone Starthat I'm just like, yes, this is amazing.
And then the rest of it I'm just like,yeah, like it's, I like it, but it's fine.

(55:47):
It's not "Saving Grace".
Um, so interestingly there is a verycheckered and controversial history when
it comes to these sort of wildernessretreats, um, for the at-risk kids.
And Paris Hilton is involved,which always kind of blows my mind.
Oh, what?
Yeah, so apparently,

(56:08):
okay.
Explain.
Apparently Paris Hilton when shewas younger was sent to not so
much like a camping trip like this,but the same sort of troubled teen
industry where she was like in a, Ithink she was there for two years.

(56:28):
Oh.
To try
that's a long time
and quote unquote straighten her out.
And she is still sufferingtrauma from that experience.
And so.
A documentary got made throughNetflix, I think, looking into
the troubled teen industry.
And she participated in the documentary.
And she's also been a staunch advocatefor like the government looking

(56:52):
into and regulating the troubledteen industry because these camps
are just avenues for, they're likea billion dollar industry, and it's
just it's sanctioned child abuse.
The things that they will do tothese kids in the name of quote
unquote straighten them out is insome instances straight up torture

(57:13):
Jesus.
Right.
I'm going to assume that this GreatOaks one that, um, that they're talking
about is not to that extent, but it'sthings like, you spend four months
walking through the wilderness with abackpack that has all of your belongings.
You're not given food.

(57:34):
You have to learn how to, like, youwanna eat, learn how to make a fire, you
wanna drink, learn how to find water.
That kind of, and there are lots ofpeople who, and I'm guessing that they're
tipping Judd to be one of them who comeout of it, finding the experience to
be very positive and transformational.

(57:55):
Um, most kids come out of it slightlytraumatized or extremely traumatized,
especially if you've got one ofthe ones where, um, in an effort to
ensure that the kids don't realizewhat's happening until it's too late.
The camp organizers will come in andkidnap you from your bedroom and throw you

(58:17):
in a van and take you out into the wild
Oh my God.
Like Fourth Wing kind of business.
Yeah.
Sorry.
If you haven't read that, you won't know.
Yeah.
Um, so it, it's, it, it's sort oflike sunshine and roses and daisies
in the episode, but it's got a, butthe actual trouble teen industry and
these wilderness retreats for kidsthat they've a very, um, sordid, very

(58:40):
controversial, like, not even historythough, 'cause it's still currently going.
Right.
Okay.
But yeah, just
yeah.
Far out.
You would not expect Paris Hiltonto be somebody who would have had
experienced this and then be an advocate
and for so long.
Yeah.
Like, I thought it was sort of like a,like a weekend thing or like maybe a week.

(59:02):
Oh no, it's months.
These kids are not there under their own.
They're they're there to be fixed.
Yeah.
Or quote unquote.
Yeah.
Quote unquote fixed.
Yeah's, a lot of what's going on withthese kids can't be fixed by like four.
Like I remember reading aninterview with one of the

(59:22):
survivors of this training zone.
Like, "I know how to start a fire.
I know how to do all of this sort of like.
Physical survival stuff.
I don't know how to emotionally regulate.
I don't know how to have aconversation about my feelings.
I don't know how todeescalate a situation.
Yeah.
That would've been more helpful thanlearning how to like forage for food."

(59:43):
Yeah, absolutely.
Anyway, these, these kids have definitelycome out of it more traumatized than
when they're went in because they'venearly lost people in the fire
and Oh yeah.
JJs gonna be super-
and
their own lives.
Traumatized.
Yeah.
Um, yeah.
So they have found JJ'scampsite, but JJs not there.

(01:00:03):
Mm.
but they can't see any remains'cause Yeah, the fires like
completely swept through it,
so they still need to find JJ, butwhile they are still looking, we're
gonna go back up to base camp whereHen has decided that she needs
to do something to help Eddie.

(01:00:24):
And she has approached Captain Strandfor approval to get a helicopter to
search the hillside where the GreatOaks Camp was before it gets dark.
And he's like, "No, you can't do that.
It's, it's right on theedge of the fire line.
The wind's bad.

(01:00:45):
You can't go."
No, no, no.
It's worse than that.
It's like, "I don't feel good aboutsending anybody up there. I'll go."
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, it's like, okay.
Uh, and I know, like I was tryingto talk myself down from this
thinking like, this would be verymuch something Bobby would do it.
Like, I'm not gonna risk my own people.

(01:01:07):
If somebody is gonna go and dothis, I'm gonna do it myself.
It just comes off so differentlywhen it's Strand doing it.
Yeah.
Yes.
Or maybe it's just, I'm like,hardwired to just hate anything
that comes out of this man's mouth.
I don't know.
I didn't hate him at this point.
It was, it was only later when hestarts talking about being invincible

(01:01:29):
and it's like, are you seriouS?
oh my God.
But anyway.
Yeah.
Um, so we are going back to the campsiteand Eddie and Marjan just sitting there at
the campsite waiting for them come back.
That must have, honestly, that must'vebeen the most boring thing for them
to shoot because they, throughout,like the next 10 minutes of the

(01:01:51):
episode, they're literally justsitting in this campsite reacting to
everything they hear on the radio.
Yeah.
It's weird.
But first,
but yeah, like Marwani's like, "Maybewe should go out and help," and
Eddie's like, "Nope, Judd told usto stay here." It's like, oh yeah.
Good boy.
Good boy Eddie.
Because he doesn't have Buck withhim, so he is gonna, like, he's
remembered how to follow orders.
He also, I think he really like, Ithink he likes Judd as well, as much

(01:02:12):
as Judd likes him, so, you know,
um, so yeah, Marwani's like, "how canyou be so calm under literal fire?"
And Eddie's like, "well, no one'sshooting at us." And then even
though there's no reception,apparently Eddie pulls out his phone.
Oh my God.
And in the most like,
oh my God, I just, yes, you are correct

(01:02:32):
in the scene that shows thatno one in this show has ever
used social media before.
Yes.
Oh my God.
So Marwani's phone dings and shecheck checks the notification.
And Eddie has sent her a followerrequest on Insta, but she, her Insta

(01:02:54):
account's PR public, not privatebecause she's gone viral several times.
So he doesn't have to sendher a follower request.
He can just follow.
Oh my God.
And so, yeah, she's like, "oh, likeyou wanna follow me on Insta?" and
Eddie's like, "oh, I heard you puta lot of effort, effort into it.

(01:03:14):
And I was curious." So she goes,"I'll show you mine if you show me
yours." so then they look at eachother's accounts, which like possibly
Eddie's was private because he doeshave photos of his kid on there.
I'm gonna say that Eddie's is private.
Yeah.
Makes total sense that Eddie's is private.
But I don't understand whyMarwani's would be private.

(01:03:38):
No, that doesn't make any sense.
Is there a setting where if you'vegot a public profile, you can still
set it that anyone who wants to.
No, that doesn't make sense.
No, no.
It's just public.
Like, they just don'tunderstand how Instagram works.
Oh my gosh.
I think they think it's likeFacebook where like they,
oh, they probably do.
Oh my God.
Anyway.

(01:03:58):
Anyway, it doesn't matter.
Yeah, they look at each other's accounts,
they follow each other.
Um, Eddie's like, oh,that's a Prius in the air.
And Yeah, a tornado droppedit between two buildings.
Um, Marwani's is like, "oh, is thisyour kid?" "Yep, that's Christopher.
He's my world." Doing the whole,you know, single dad thing.
At which point I went, no, you're not.
You've got Buck.
Yeah, but then that's just me.
And then, Marjan's like, "You did notbuild him a skateboard." And Eddie

(01:04:22):
just goes, "Yeah, well, Buck helped."
Aw.
And all the Supernatural people go, Aw,
Cas helped.
Just squealed.
Cas helped.
But yes.
"Is, is that the creepy guy that wasstaring at me before?" And Eddie's
like, "He's harmless, mostly."
Eddie.

(01:04:42):
Eddie, when has he harmed you?
He's, he's harmless, uh, except, youknow, when he's suing the, the entire, um.
It's fine, it's fine.
We won't talk about that.
He's never done anythingwrong in his entire life.
No, that's Eddie who's never doneanything wrong in his entire life
because he's got a silver star.
Oh, that's right.
'cause he's got a silver star.

(01:05:03):
He would never do anything illegal,especially that illegal fight club.
But he was just going through some things.
It was fine.
But yeah, so then they get, uh,over the radio, the dispatcher, um,
asks for the current location 'causethey're sending air support and
Eddie is like "Air support? Who'scrazy enough to go in something
like go up in something like this?"
Cut to,
and then we get to Owen Strandpulling up at the helicopter.

(01:05:27):
Yep,
yep.
He's crazy enough apparently.
And so is Hen,
but so is Hen Yes, because she's climbinginto the helicopter on the other side,
um, tot which Owen is not impressed andwants to know what she's doing there.
And Hen says that she's coming with himbecause while it might be too dangerous
for her to go, it's too dangerousfor Owen to go without a medic and

(01:05:52):
Sure.
Why not?
The pilot says, you know,"We're burning daylight.
We gotta go.
If we're going, we gotta go now."And Strand just sort of stares
her and says, "I'm not crazy aboutthis, Henrietta." And Hen looks like
she's about to rip his head off.
She's like, "Yeah, meneither. Call me Hen."
At first I thought that that Owen Strandwas gonna be flying the helicopter.

(01:06:14):
I'm like, oh no, not him,
oh, I wouldn't put it past him,
but no, then, then it becomes clear.
There's actually a pilot.
We've, no, we've got Mark.
I mean they mostly forgetabout Mark, but Mark is there.
So they make contact withJudd, they get his location.
Um, Hen is scanning the hillsunderneath the helicopter with uh,

(01:06:38):
basically infrared and she finds a heatsignature, which they assume is JJ.
And so Owen, who can see Juddand Paul guide their ATV toward
where the heat signature is.
And they find JJ,
they find JJ!
Meanwhile, and we can, the weird thingis that, so we are cutting back and forth

(01:06:59):
between Judd and Paul in the ATV, Henand Owen up in the helicopter and then
randomly back to Eddie and Marjan, who arejust sitting there with popcorn listening
to this all play out over the radio.
So weird.
They're not contributing.
They're literally just listening,
we can't forget about them.
Yeah,
I mean, we probably could.

(01:07:23):
As they get closer, um, JJ actuallystarts calling out, like, "help,
help, I'm down here." Um, so theyget to him and he, they find that
his ankle's caught in a bear trap.
So he is lying on the ground withhis foot half off, basically.
Yeah, it's bad.
Um, he's not looking good.
He's lost a lot of blood.
So they hook him up to thelife pack and Hen starts like

(01:07:47):
talking them through freeing him.
Yeah.
Before they start working out how tofree him, JJ is very self deprecatingly.
Um, asking them, you know, either askingthem, it's a rhetorical question like
what kind of loser gets caught in abear trap running away from a bear?
Right.
And Paul's like, so "What?
There's bears?" And JJ "they were chasingthe wolves." Like "There's wolves?"

(01:08:10):
"There's wolves?" um, the bestpart is, so at the end of the epi,
the previous episode, yes, I didsee, we see this kid and he's like
trying to start a fire in the thing.
And then like these wolves, quote unquoterun past and they're just huskies.
Oh, they're not,
they're so obviously huskies.

(01:08:31):
It's just like, oh no, huskies.
I did watch this scene and I thoughtfor a second that JJ was the one that
started the wildfire because there isa, a part where he's trying to set the
fire and the fire like misses the littlecampfire and just goes out into the brush.
And I'm thinking, oh shit.
That's like the sparkthat starts the wildfire.
But then no, after the huskies runpast and we get birds flying past,

(01:08:54):
it pans up and we see like the hillsand the distance are like on fire.
So it wasn't JJ's fault, but yeah.
Quote unquote.
The wolves were.
The wolves.
Yeah.
Look out for huskies, guys
fleeing from the bear thatwas fleeing from the fire.
And the bear was probably just thatdog that was driving the car earlier
probably.
Yeah.
Um, but Paul looks completelyfreaked out and JJ, who was, you

(01:09:16):
know, lying there on a bear trapgoes, it's okay, they're gone now.
It's like, yep.
Cool.
Um, but yes, so he takes overthe radio to Judd and introduces
herself as, um, paramedic Wilson.
And she says like, I'm, I'msure that you are fully equipped
and capable to handle this.
And is like, no, no, no, no.
Please help us.

(01:09:36):
Meanwhile, Eddie and Marjanare listening to this.
When Hen goes, I'm uphere with your captain.
Eddie's just like, oh, for fuck's sake.
And Marjan looks like she's praying.
The eye rolls are justepic from these two.
Um, yeah, so she talks themthrough placing a tourniquet.
And poor JJ though.

(01:09:57):
So like, Paul's like, "yeah,this is, this might hurt." And JJ
just goes, "It's what I deserve.
Just like my dad always said,I'm a waste of space." It's like,
I mean, honestly, I, I, I feltlike slapping him too, so I
kind of sympathize with Judd.
Also, it's really weird, like thetranscript calls him Paul, I'm going

(01:10:18):
to just gonna call him Stricklandbecause that's what he's called in
the show and it's doing my head in.
So,
okay, well I didn't know that 'causeI haven't watched the damn show.
I know.
They refer to every, except forJudd, who doesn't get called by
his last name, but most of themthey called by their last names.
Oh, that's weird.
Okay.
Which is why I keepsaying Marwani as well.
'cause okay, that's what she's called.

(01:10:40):
Um,
right.
So they get him out of the bear trap.
Um, they start wrapping his ankle, uh,but he's crashing and Strickland keeps
telling Judd to talk to him to keephim awake, which he's, he tries to,
but he tries to, um, be nice to JJ.

(01:11:05):
He's like, he starts off with,you know, being the good guys.
Like, "I know that you think that youdeserve this, you are wrong." And JJ is
being typical snotty teenager, and he'slike, "oh, you don't know anything about
me." And Judd is like, "No, I was you.
And know sometime years and years fromnow, this is just gonna be another
story, but you have to stay with usso that you can tell this story."

(01:11:27):
Um, that's not enough to keep JJ awake.
Um, so then Judd tries the tough loveapproach, including the very typically
Southern, "I'm talking to you boy,"
just going, oh, okay.
Um, and he starts like,
"stop being a little baby."
Yeah.

(01:11:47):
Like, "oh, boo-hoo.
Poor me.
I deserve this.
Well, why don't you stopbeing a baby and grow a pair?"
And when that doesn't work, Juddliterally straightens up and slaps him.
Yeah.
To the point where
I'm like, Jesus Christ,
he slaps him so hard that the followthrough nearly catches Paul in the face.
And so he has to rear backwards sothat he doesn't get clipped as well.

(01:12:12):
He, I think he also rears backwardsin like surprise shock because
Yeah.
Oh, 100%.
Um, I don't think that's in the play inthe, um, paramedics, you know, manual,
but it works.
JJ wakes up.
Yeah.
And um, JJ gets on the radio,uh, Judd gets on the radio and

(01:12:33):
he is like, "miss Henrietta, thefluids worked." I'm like, really?
The fluids?
Is that what we call it?
Don't think it's the fluids, but, sure.
So Owen's like, I'm, I'mglad to hear that he's okay.
Uh, he's going to get into theharness so that he can like, get
lowered down to rescue the kid.
Mark's like, "uh, nobody's going down withthese wind gusts. We need to get out of

(01:12:57):
the air as soon as possible." Um, so thatleaves the strike team to evacuate JJ on
the A TV, which kind of makes more sense.
And he's like, "yeah, I gotta go pick upMarwani and Diaz anyway." Which all good.
Except then all of a suddenfor no apparent reason, the
helicopter catches on fire.

(01:13:18):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I,
and I watched this a couple of...
Did I miss something here?
Yeah.
I had to rewind.
I was like, what happenedto the helicopter?
We didn't miss anything!
Yeah, no, literally the enginecatches on fire or the rotor
or something catches on fire.
Something at this.
They're not even that close to the fire.
Oh, the actual fire itself?
No.
I'm like, okay, the helicopter's crashing.

(01:13:39):
All right.
It's just overheated.
Spontaneous helicopter combustion.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Um, so
the wind's blowing thewrong direction, remember?
Could mean anything.
And that causes things to blow up?
I don't know.
Um, so
Sparks?
I don't know.
Mark, Mark is calling from "Mayday.Mayday. This is a distress call."

(01:13:59):
Um, Eddie and Marjan look up andthey can see the helicopter like
coming down over the top of them.
Eddie's now having flashbacks.
Um, yeah.
Right.
Poor Eddie.
If a helicopter crashes,Marjan is horrified.
Um, and we end this particular, um,sequence with Judd like running up

(01:14:19):
to the top of the hill to watch thehelicopter go down into the, the hills
that are alive with the sound of fire.
Oof.
And I'm like, oh, no.
Hen she's going to die!
Would be real awkward when
Sure hope Hen doesn't die.
Like, could you imagine you don't watch

(01:14:40):
Imagine tuning into the next episode?
You don't watch crossover episode.
Yeah.
And Hen's just dead.
And it's like, oh, okay,
Sorry, you have to watch that othershow to find out what happened.
The last thing you saw of Hen wasshe was going off to Texas, and then
you tune in next week and they'rehaving a funeral and you're like.
What, what did I miss?
Yes.
Oh yeah.
I mean, it, it makes the stakes a lotlower when you know that they're gonna

(01:15:02):
like both of them are gonna survive like
100 percent.
And that's the other thing, like there'sno way that would be killing off Rob Lowe.
So you know a hundred percentthat he's gonna survive.
That's it.
Like I'd seen all of 9-1-1 beforeI started watching Lone Star.
And so watching, like when I got up tothe crossover, I was just like, okay.
Because like I knew 'cause nine,uh, Lone Star was almost in the

(01:15:23):
final season as well and I knewthat like Captain Strand was in it.
So I was like, wellit's kind of low stakes.
Mm-hmm.
Very low stakes.
So we come back from commercial and
to TK and Buck still havingtheir um, measuring competition.
Yeah.
Because it's, but it's gone beyondjust the um, the emergency calls

(01:15:45):
and they're, now we're up to whichstate has the best natural disasters.
And while Los Angeles has earthquakes,um, Texas apparently has solar storms
and I'm with Buck when he is like,I don't even know what that is.
Yeah, you can't even see it.
And Mateo's like, guys, don'tyou see what you're doing?
You're literally having adick measuring competition.

(01:16:07):
I mean, you are falling into the classicIron Man versus Captain America trap.
I mean, that's pretty much what he said.
"Is Captain America better because he isa super soldier with an indestructible
shield or is Tony Stark better?
'cause he is a tech geniuswith a sick, weaponized suit.
Um, neither's better, that's the point.
Uh, they're both badass andwhen they team up, nobody could
beat them except maybe Thanos."

(01:16:28):
Thanos definitely beat them.
Yeah.
At this point before they can respond,they reach an ATV where Eddie and
Marjan are sitting, and TK and Buckare a little bit snarky with them.
Like, "Ooh, I'm glad to see striketeam's already got their feet up.
You guys must be exhausted fromall that go-karting up and down the
hill." And Marwani just looks atthem and goes, "You didn't hear did

(01:16:53):
you?" And TK is like, "Hear what?"
No, no one told me mydad's almost dead again.
That's fine.
Well see, at this point Ididn't realize it was his dad
Again.
No, I didn't, I didn't realize it washis dad until just the next bit where
he was saying something about his dad.
When, um, they go after obviouslyhearing that his dad has crashed,

(01:17:13):
he immediately goes to De Leon toget permission to go after him.
Um, but before we get that, we doconfirm that everyone survived the crash
except for like Mark's in bad shape.
But, um, he's fine.
Owen appears to be in okay shape,but must have had a head injury at

(01:17:35):
some point, which we didn't see.
No, he just starts gettingdizzy and stuff later, right.
Apart from the hallucinations,
but we don't see whatcould have caused that.
But anyway, um, the helicopter's down.
It's surrounded by flames.
The radio is dead.
They have no cell reception.
Maybe they should just startsending dms through Insta.

(01:17:57):
'cause apparently Instas gettingreception even if nothing else is.
Yeah.
Literally it's, yeah.
But the, the wind sort of whips upand starts whistling and Owen says,
"Do you feel that? It's a firestorm.It's making its own, it's creating

(01:18:17):
its own wind." Pulls out this map.
They start showing Hen where theycould possibly go for shelter.
And then he stops and he goes,"Do you feel that it's making its
own wind? It's firestorm." AndHen just sort of looks at him.
He's like, "what?" Hen's like,"You've just repeated yourself."
And then we get Owen being absolutelythe worst patient in the world

(01:18:40):
because she starts running likea concussion checklist on him.
Like, "do you know what dayit is?" And he's like, "it's
nighttime." It's not helpful.
"Owen, do you know where you are?"
Yeah.
Not helpful
"Somewhere I really don't wannabe." For fuck's sake, dude.
Yeah.
So yeah.
He has a concussion.
Yeah.

(01:19:00):
Which.
Owen very snarkily says,"So what are you gonna do?
You're gonna tell me to stay offmy feet, avoid stress?" At this
point, the flames sort of whooshup around them and Hen's like, "no,
actually we're gonna run like hell."
Yeah.
So they scoop up Poor Mark whohas, what was wrong with him,
he's got a fractured femur,

(01:19:21):
broken ribs,
a couple of cracked ribs, and shesedated him, which is probably the best.
Yeah.
But then that means they've gottacarry him basically anymore.
But it also means they don't have towrite lines for him and they can forget
about him for the next couple of scenes.
That's true.
He's not gonna take screentime away from Rob Lowe.

(01:19:41):
I mean, to be honest, in the nextcouple of scenes, I'd completely
forgotten that he was even there,
I hadn't.
Okay.
Justice from Mark,
well, he's unconscious, so
he's quiet.

(01:20:02):
I was too busy trying to work out what thehell was going on in the next few anyway.
Um, oh, honestly,
the first time I watched theepisode, no, no clue about Mark.
Completely forgot about him as well.
Um, but this run around, this gothrough, when I'm writing out the
notes, I'm like, oh, mark, where's Mark?
And I'm keeping, I'm keepingvery careful track of him.

(01:20:22):
But while they've scooped up Markand they're running like hell.
I don't know where they're running toat the moment, but they're running.
Um, TK has run to base camp to findthe incident commander to demand
permission to go look for his father.
Yeah.
And they're like, "No, you can't go."
Yeah.
But at this point, like you andI first time around, we don't
even know that it's his father.
It's just everyone is very angrily...

(01:20:43):
Yeah.
It's not until he says "Your fatherwould be the first one to agree
with me." And I'm like your father.
Yeah.
Everyone, everyone is just very, veryanxious to go and search, which coming
from 9-1-1 LA like we, we, we expect that.
Like Buck gets absolutelyrabid when something happens
to Bobby or anyone in the 118.
So that's like par for the course.

(01:21:05):
Um,
yeah.
But it's only when Deleon says, "youknow, we haven't had any cell con cell
or radio contact. Nobody else is riskingtheir lives tonight. And your father
would be the first one to agree withme." At which point Buck is like, shit.
Seriously.
His actual father, not likehis just father figure.

(01:21:26):
Wait, your daddy issues acourse by your biological dad?
All right, so back to the fire pit.
Um, Hen and Owen are actuallycarrying Mark at this point.
Well, they're kind of dragging himalong, I guess he's over their shoulders
a little bit and they find a mine.

(01:21:47):
Yeah.
Like a, an I I'm assuming it's anabandoned, a very old abandoned mine.
And they go inside, they breakdown the whatever's across
the doorway and go inside.
It's like the, the little buildingshelter thing at the top of the shaft.
Which has a, a big sign on itthat says like, "danger mine".

(01:22:08):
Um, and Owen makes a commentthat, you know, he spent his whole
life running towards danger, butthere's never actually been a sign.
Um, but the idea is that the further intothe mine they go, the more that they'll
be protected from the heat of the fire.
Unfortunately, um, the mine shaftis not that deep, and there is also

(01:22:30):
crates upon crates of extremelyold dynamite in the mine with them.
Yeah.
That's not ideal.
No,
I'm sure it'll be fine.
It's not like there's a fire.
No.
And then we get Ellen'sfavorite part of the episode.
They have a bit of a bonding moment wherethey talk about Karen momentarily, but

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um, Owen does say at this point, yeah,"You picked the right person to be in a
helicopter crash with." I'm like, what?
And so does Hen, she goes,"Oh yeah, why is that?"
And he goes, "Because I'm invincible."
It's like, what the fuckis up with that Alice?
Why?
Yeah.
It's, I, I don't know.
You don't know?

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I don't know.
Okay.
I think because he survived 9/11,
that's what I assumed
and I can't, but I can't rememberwhere he's, 'cause he does have cancer,
but I don't remember where he is inhis cancer journey at the moment.
Yeah.
I assumed it was becausehe'd survived like the can.
I forgot about the 9/11stuff, but I assumed it was
because he'd survived cancer.

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Um, but yeah, I, I thought that thisI'm invincible shit was like a, a
storyline that just like flowed throughall of Lone Star, but no, they, they
whipped it out just for this one?
Um, okay.
But yeah.
But then things get hilarious for a momentbecause Hen takes the, the news that

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Owen is invincible in stride and says,"Uh, well my wife will be glad to hear
that." And then we do a quick cut to thedead paramedic who has joined them in the
mine and says, "oh, sure you survived.
Great for you."
And Han sort of notices that he'slooking in a place where there's nobody.

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And she's like, "Are youokay?" And he's like.
"Yeah,"
no.
Um, I will like to say that I reallyenjoy Dead Paramedic Rosewater.
I think he's hilarious.
And I would watch, I would continue towatch, I would continue to watch Lone
Star if it was like every time Owensaid something, Dead Paramedic Rosewater

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just made some sort of snarky, sassyresponse that only Owen could hear.
Oh my God.
What a great show.
Yeah,
Unfortunately we don't get that.
So back at Base Camp, back atBase Camp TKs on the phone.
And I don't know if it'swith Carlos or his mom,
what all it says was "Okay.I will. I love you too." I'm

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assuming he's talking to Car.
It was either Carlos or his mom.
Yeah, I assumed his mom.
Oh, I assumed Carlos, but there we go.
The important part is not who he's onphone with, the point is that, um, Buck
comes over to him with a pizza box.
Yeah.
Because, because they've dejust delivered 20 kinds of pizza

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and he's trying to reassure TK.
Oh, TK is very worried.
He doesn't want to eat anything, butBuck says, "believe, believe that
they survived. And your dad is withHen so he is in really good hands."
And TK can't stop trying to one up buck.
He's like, "Well, well Hen's inreally good hands too. 'cause
she's with my dad." TK, let it go.

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Um, and then we get, um, Bucksaying, "look, my captain is
not my actual biological father,but he might as well be." Um,
we're like, yeah, we know that, Buck.
Yeah.
We know that he is like, you know,
saying that "He could have given upon this so many times and he never
did. Even when I used to steal thefiretruck." and TK is like, "You

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used to steal a firetruck?" AndBuck's like "Yeah. All the time."
And TK can't stop.
He's like, "Well, I've done a lotworse than steal firetrucks. And
my dad's never given up on me." I'mlike, yeah, you definitely have done
a lot worse than steal a firetruck.
Yeah, TKs done a lot worse Buck's like,oh yeah, I stole the firetruck, which has
a tracker and like Bobby and was totallysafe and knew exactly where I was going.

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And like, TKs, like TK almostoverdosed in an, in an abandoned
building, but sure, yeah, it's fine.
Um, but after they like tuck themselvesback into their trousers and TK is
like, you know, "It just sucks sittinghere doing nothing," and Buck's like,
"Well, what if we didn't have to?"And he pulls out a key from his pocket

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and TK is like, "Is that..." andbuck's like " A key to a firetruck?
Yes.
Yes it is."
He's gonna steal the firetruck again.
Gonna steal the fire truck again.
But not for fucking this time.
Well, no.
Apparently being in a mine shaft doesnot increase your cell phone reception.

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Once again, they should just check Insta.
Um, Owen and Hen are both ontheir phones trying to call
somebody, get some kind of signal.
Um, para, uh, Dead ParamedicRosewater reminds them "You're in
a mine shaft, genius. Of course,you're not gonna get any reception."
And Owens very studiously ignoringhis hallucination and tries to make

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some small talk with Hen by askinghow long she's been married and Dead
Paramedic Rosewater just goes, "oh,good. Small talk." I love this guy.
I had no idea who he was, but I love him.
He's very lighthearted.
We should mention
sarcasm.
Dead, Dead Paramedic Rosewater.
Honestly he's much betterdead than, um, than alive.

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He's also like, he's, he'svery quite clearly dead.
'cause he's got, like, his skin isas gray as you can get with all the
filters that they've put on this.
Um, his eyes are that like milky blue.
He's got blood dripping over his face.
He's quite clearly a corpse.
He's like super dead.

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Owen asks Hen about.
Her wife and we find out.
Yeah, she like explains abouther family a little bit.
Yeah.
And
yeah, 'cause Karen's aliteral rocket scientist by
stay at home rocketscientists at the moment,
but, and she's like cutbacksat JPL I'm like, and COVID.
Yeah.

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Although COVID doesn't seemto be a thing in Texas.
But see the thing.
Yeah, Texas didn't have COVID, but
it's not, I don't knowthat it was cutbacks.
I think she took a new position.
'cause at the end of season, Ican't even remember which one.
End of season two?
She specifically takes the part-timejob at Caltech, which is where

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the jpl l it's at the Jet jetPropulsion lab is at Caltech.
So she takes a part-time position thereand that's where they decided to have more
kids because Karen would be home more.
Yeah, that's right.
So like I mentioned, they kind ofplay fast and loose with some of
the facts in, um, in this episode.
Um, so we've got, the wifeis the rocket scientist.

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Um, Owen asks about kids,they've got two kids.
She asks if Owen has a kid.
Um, he mentions TK and saysthat Hen might've met him.
And Hen says, "Now that you mentionit, I did notice the resemblance of
the briefing." And I'm like, when thehell did you notice that resemblance?
I snored, like, did you happen, didyou happen to look over to see where

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Buck was staring and notice thewhite guy standing next to her and
go, oh, that looks a lot like Owen.
I wonder if that's his son.
Anyway.
Yeah, I mean, it certainly wasn'tlike the, the brothers the other week
that, that you noticed right away.
But then they have cast, um, youknow, TK and Owen quite well to

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look like they could be related.
Oh, the funniest thing is that Owen'sbrother shows up in, um, like the next
season or the season after and I waslike, wow, they've cast him really well.
Like he's even got thesame speech patterns.
Like he's done really well.
Yeah.
Turns out
it's another Lowe?
It's just Rob Lowe's actual brother.
Yeah.
Oh, it's his real brother?

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It's his real brother.
Wow.
Oh, that's perfect casting then.
Yeah, because I was like, wow.
Like even the speech patterns are thesame, like such good casting, like
this guy's really done his homework.
Yeah, no, they, they're actualbrothers grew up together.
That's, yeah.
Right.
That makes sense.
Um, Owen goes off on a bit of a tangentabout his wife, like, TK's mother and

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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Um,
yeah.
Apparently they're getting back together.
Okay.
We never meet her.
Yeah.
We never.
After 15.
Anything else about it?
Okay.
After 15 years of being divorced,we're giving another, another
go around, which sounds crazy.
Dead Paramedic Rosewater says, "Youknow what's crazy? Getting hit by
a lava bomb. That's crazy." And atwhich point Owen can't help himself.

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And he's like, "I'm sorry,"to Dead Paramedic Rosewater.
And Hen's like, "Sorry for what?"Uh, thankfully the wind shifts...
Hen's pretty creeped out.
Thankfully the wind shifts at that pointand smoke starts getting pushed into
the mine shaft, which is like not ideal.

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This whole, this next sequenceis just so fucking stupid.
Um, so they both realize thatthey need to find another way out.
Dead paramedic rosewater is like tellingOwen, "You know, you know she's never
gonna see those kids again. You pickeda real nice tomb to die in though."
And yet at this point, Owen's likeyelling at the like non-existent dead guy.

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And Hen's like, "I believe you aretalking to somebody who's not here."
You think?,
and Owen's like, "I'm aware,but he did gimme a good idea."
And Hen's like, what haveI got myself into here?
Especially, especially because Owenmakes a beeline for the dynamite.
Yeah.
Oh.
Um, so while they're doing that, Buckand TK are trying not to be suspicious.

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Like they're literallycreeping, like jumping from,
they're in stealth mode.
They're in stealth mode.
They're like running up to a truckand then sort of looking around
and then sprinting for the nexttruck to try and like hide um,
their approach for the firetrucks.
And we get this, um, hilariousmoment where TK tells Buck, you
know, "You don't have to do this.

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There's no reason that both of usshould get fired." And Buck's like,
"Hey, my friend's up there too.
She'd do the same thing for me." And thenhe stops and he goes, "I think," and then
he stops a little bit more and his likeface screws up as he tries to work it out.
And then he goes, "You knowwhat? She would it, it's okay.
She would," I'm like, oh Buck.

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Like, who are you convincing here?
Yeah.
Like, are you, did you actuallydecide that yes, Hen would, or
you just telling yourself that?
Yes.
Hen would, I mean,
probably, probably both.
Eddie definitely would, but
yeah, Eddie would, yeah.
At this point they find the 118's truck.
TK is like, "yeah, here it is.

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Um, let's go." And Buck's like, "no,no, that's not it." TKs very confused.
Like, it's got 118, it'sgot Los Angeles on it.
This is, this is your truck.
And Buck's like, "Yeah, no, we're nottaking that one. Bobby would kill me
if I brought it back with a scratchon it. We're taking your truck."

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Um, funnily enough, I saw my cousinyesterday who is a firefighter and
he now works like behind the scenesmore and he works on the fire trucks.
And he was telling me a story abouthow like the, um, firefighters,
like the captains are alwayslike when he is working on them,
he's like, oh, like is it okay?

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Like, what are you doing?
Like, tell me about it.
And they're all reallyprotective over the truck.
And I was like, oh, sothat is actually a thing.
Yeah.
And he's like, can youjust gimme space to work?
Like, just gimme a minuteand you'll have it back.
But Jesus Christ.
Um, before they can get to, uh, TKstruck though, Judd steps around and

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yells, "Hey, dumbass, dumbasser." And,and would we'd like to discuss which one
is dumbass and which one is dumbasser?
Because correct me if I'm wrong,is TK the Buck in Lone Star,
like is he the young dumb one?

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Not really.
Buck's not dumb.
He just asks a lot of questions.
Um, like he can be a bit reckless, butlike in a, I don't, I'm trying to remember
TK from season one because he's a lotdifferent in the LA later season three.
I'm trying, but I'm trying to work outwhether Judd calling him a dumbass or

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something that's a regular recurrence.
And so then TK is dumb ass and then Buckis dumbass-er He's like the next one.
Well, I assume that since he actuallyknows TK, probably call him dumbass first.
Yeah,
yeah.
Just to be polite about it.

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But also I did have to, I stoppedat this point and I looked up on
the Wiki for like ages of these two.
And scarily enough Buckis meant to be the elder.
Like not by much.
Yeah, it's just a couple.
Yeah.
By six months.
Yeah.
If you can believe the ages outof the Wiki, it's by six months.
But still Buck being the likeolder and more responsible
one is a little bit scary.

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But anyway, Judd Judd wants to know ifthey stopped to consider the consequences
and they're just like, um, but then
they've literally frozen
the rest of the.
The rest of the gang show up.
Yeah.
Judd asks, did you stop to considerthe consequences and Eddie answers.
And like, "you obviously don'tknow Buck," the answer being like,
no, he didn't stop to consider it.

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Um, oh, so Marwani is like "You twodidn't seriously think that you could
sneak off and drive into wildfires,did you?" And TK is like, "Yes?"
Uh, Strickland's like, "yeah, that,that ain't gonna happen." and Buck's
like, "Oh, you think you are gonna stopus?" And like, you know, puffing out
his chest and Mateo's like, "Stop you?

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We're going with you."
When the hell did Mateo get there?
He's small.
You can't see him.
He was hiding behind Judd.
Okay.
Because that's the only thing that makessense because you see strick, you see
Judd and Strickland step out from oneside of the firetruck and then you see
Marwani and um, Eddie from the other end.

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But then somehow Mateo is like,
Probie is just like, I'm also here.
Um, but yes, apparentlythey are all going.
So then, um, the, theyload up into the 126 truck.
'cause you know, Buck's alreadygot the keys and they roll out much
and very non stealthily rollout.

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And there's like two guys sitting inthe back of one of the rigs eating pizza
and sort of watch in surprise as thistruck breaks formation and rolls out.
And I'm looking at them going.
All right.
Who in the crew are these two guys?
Like which executive producer ishaving fun doing like a cameo.
So if anybody knows if these are like any,anybody important, um, I'd love to know.

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'cause the wiki didn't know.
All right, so Owen is enacting hisplan so crazy it might work involving
dynamite and an old mine shaft,which just sounds pretty dangerous.
But anyway, he explains how thembeing a hundred years old makes the

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dynamite definitely less stable.
So, you know, it couldblow up at any moment.
Basically their plan is to blow upthe entrance to the mine so that
the smoke won't come in, but thenthey will be trapped in the mine.
Yes.
Yeah.
And I don't understand thisplan at all, but anyway.
No, nope.

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I don't understand it at all because,anyway, so yes, the plan is to
seal, seal the entrance of the mineto stop the smoke from getting in.
Not realizing that that's also gonnastop any oxygen from getting in.
'cause apparently it seals it so well.
But we'll get there.
Um, because we still have to set it up.

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So Owen is stacking thedynamite near the entrance.
Um, Hen is the only one who'sthinking straight and she takes her
rush jacket, which is the yellowjacket that they're wearing, um,
rather than the full on turnouts.
Um, she takes her brush jacket, shetakes Owen's brush jacket off him,
and she goes and hangs them on postsoutside the mine shaft as kind of a,

(01:39:30):
Hey, we are in here, kind of deal.
Then she comes back inside with a literalflaming torch, but before she comes
back in, Dead Paramedic Rosewater sortof is watching Owen stack the dynamite.
And he goes, "yeah, for the record,this actually wasn't my idea."
Yeah, no shit.
You're a like figment of his imagination

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to,
Owen stretches out the, um, thedetonating cord, they use the
flaming torch, very convenientthat everything outside is on fire.
So they've got somethingto light the dynamite with.
Um, so they, they ignite the detonatingcord and then they run like three steps.

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'cause that's as deepas the mine shaft goes.
At this point, I'm going,where the hell is Mark?
Did they remember to draghim from the entrance?
Oh,
like did they move himbefore all this happened?
They did just blow him up?
Yes.
Did they just like, didhe die at some point?
So they're just blowing him up?

(01:40:35):
Yeah.
Why is he still unconscious?
Oh no, she sedated him that's right.
So he's just having a really good nap.
She must have sedatedhim pretty fucking well
yeah,
maybe she just keeps topping him up.
I dunno.
But I'm assuming that they'vealready dragged him into like
deeper into the mine shaft.
That's the only thing that makes sense.
But yeah.
Um, ignite the cord, uh, runlike hell for three steps.

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'cause it's not that deep.
Um, the dynamite explodes and the entranceto the mine shaft collapses in or upon
itself sealing the mine completely.
Because when we come back from commercial,both of them are on, uh, oxygen, which,
why didn't they just use the O2 maskswhen the smoke started coming in?

(01:41:22):
Yeah.
Yes.
Right?
Why didn't they
'cause like now they're poisoning the air,
like number one.
Where did they get all ofthese O2 tanks and O2 masks.
Did they go back?
Yeah.
I was like, did they carry them in?
No!
I think, I think... So it waseither they, they had one because

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Mark was hooked up to an O2 mask.
So where they stole it from him and theywere sharing it backwards and forwards.
But then I was watching like,
and they just left him for dead?
Yes, but I'm watching and like,no, they both got their own masks,
which means at some point theywent and got extra O2 tanks.
But then if they had the O2, whydidn't they just let the smoke like
come in and then use the O2 masksand breathe that rather than Yeah.

(01:42:10):
Because apparently not only they'vesealed the tomb off so well that
not only is oxygen not getting in,but it's also not allowing the CO2
that they're exhaling to escape.
Yeah.
Oh God.
Which it's so fucking stupid.
Yeah.
I don't get it.
Do not understand.
Um,

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and how small is this area thatthey're trapped in now that the
oxygen has already run out as well?
Like, I guess they weretrapped overnight, right?
Well, yeah, they, because when the 126eventually get there, like it's morning,
it's morning.
Yeah.
But then when they uncover them,they're literally just like lifting
off a couple of pieces of wood.
So how the hell did that likeseal off the mine tightly enough?

(01:42:54):
No, let's, let's not think too hard aboutit because it doesn't make any sense.
It doesn't make any sense,
but no, so they're, apparently they'regetting a little bit woozy from like the
pure oxygen and the, the CO2 building up.
Owen apologizes for the stupidest planin the, that man has ever come up with.

(01:43:18):
Um, and also for letting her geton the chopper so that she's in
this position in the first place.
And Hen's like, "Whatare you talking about?
You're invincible, remember?" And heis like, "yeah, I'm invincible, but
everybody else around me dies." like,
and she's like, now you tell me.

(01:43:41):
Um, and then we get a littlebit of an explanation as to
Dead Paramedic Rosewater.
Um, because Hen goes like, "isthat what's been like, is that
what you've been hallucinating?
Is that what's been haunting you?
Someone who didn't make it."Um, and Owen's like, "you know,
the people who didn't make itcouldn't fit into this mineshaft."
Like, oh, for fuck's sake, dude.
Um, but like recently a paramedic gotkilled not two feet from me, and then

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we cut to Dead Paramedic Rosewater.
I'm like, oh, that's who you are.
Okay.
Yeah.
And then Owen starts his monologuing and
it's like a therapy session.
He's like unloading it all on Hen.

(01:44:27):
You were, you were jokingearlier that like T TK and Buck
were, like trading traumas.
These two are literally trading traumas.
Um, literally because Owen's like "I, Iwas in nine 11, I lost 14 of my brothers.
Um, you know, I, I feelguilt over surviving.
I feel guilt over the fact thatI hate them for dying on me.

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I feel guilt over forcing myson to, um, follow my footsteps.
I feel guilt over the failure of mymarriage." And he's like, "Well, I
killed someone with my ambulance."
Yeah.
She played the cello
and apparently she's now 16 years old.
I'm like, what?
Yeah.
No, she, when she said that,I'm like, she wasn't 16.

(01:45:09):
She was not 16,
she was 20.
If she was a day.
She, I know that they drive alittle earlier in America, but
No.
Yeah.
But what she would've literally hadjust, she'd be like 16 and like nine
months or something to, but, but itwasn't just that she was driving.

(01:45:30):
It was like she was goingpicking up dry cleaning.
She was going getting coffee.
Yeah.
She was, you, I, I know that thereis like a junior symphony for the
LA Philharmonic, but she wasn'tlike soloing for the juniors.
She said specifically that she was theyoungest soloist for the LA Philharmonic,
and I'm pretty sure they don't letyou play a soloist when you're 16.

(01:45:51):
Oh my God.
They actually can drive in 16 in,
yeah.
California.
Because I think you only need to dolike six months of supervised driving.
Wow.
But anyway, yeah, Evelyn wasnot 16, so this is what I mean.
Yeah.
I don't think she was 16.
No, she had to be older than that.
Like, this is what I mean whenthen this making shit up that

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happened in the other show.
Um, not fact checking themselves.
Not that the 9-1-1 really fact checksitself anyway, but um, but with this
revelation, she passes out and Owen isvery close behind her from passing out.
But we do get a very sinister, like"night, night" from Dead Paramedic

(01:46:36):
Rosewater before he passes out.
I love Dead Paramedic Rosewater.
He's the best part about this scene.
Oh, he, he's the, he's this savinggrace for the Owen Strand scenes and
I'm very, very sad that he recoversfrom his concussion and he stops

(01:46:57):
hallucinating Dead Paramedic Rosewater,
Rest in pace, Dead Paramedic Rosewater.
We'll always remember you.
Um, and he can rest in peacenow, now that he said goodnight.
Yeah.
But yes, apparently it is now morning.
So I don't know how long ittook, the one 20, like, like

(01:47:20):
what's timey-wimey timeness?
I don't know how long it took, the 126to get to where the plane, to where the
helicopter crashed or what time all of thelike stealing of the fire engine happened
or what time the sun comes up in Texas?
Yeah.
I don't know.
But it's now morning and they arrive atthe crash zone and everyone immediately

(01:47:42):
starts, well back in TK immediatelystarts scrambling all over the
helicopter looking for Hen and Owen.
And when they don't find themin the helicopter, they fan out
looking for them in the surrounds.
Yeah.
They can't find them, but they,they find the remains of the mine.
I don't know how far away the minewas, but I guess they were dragging

(01:48:04):
Mark with them at the time, sothey probably didn't go all that
far before they found the mine.
So they see the jackets outside themine and Marwani calls for everybody
and they go in, they, they just pulla few things away from the entrance.

(01:48:27):
See?
Yeah.
No, I, I've already said it likeapparently tho those two planks
of wood were enough to completelymake the mine shaft airtight like.
Yeah.
Anyway, so they, they, they clearthe entrance, they climb in the, uh,
the 126 immediately surround Owen andget him out to the 118, get Hen out.

(01:48:49):
Nobody gets mark out, but apparentlyhe gets out anyway because we later see
him on a gurney being pushed somewhere.
Oh, someone must have grabbed him.
I don't, I don't know where theygot the gurney from because they
took a truck, not an ambulance.
Where did they get the gurneys from?

(01:49:10):
Where are they gonna put it?
Just like strap it to the roof?
That's what I was thinking.
Attach it to the ladder?
Just laying across the back seats.
I'm going to assume that once theyfound them, they somehow miraculously
like dmd somebody through Insta to um,get an, get an ambulance to the site

(01:49:32):
Firefox has been live this entire time.
I dunno.
Radio, the radios have been workingso they could radio for help,
I don't know, but any, anyway, sothey, it's, it's very stirring because
the 126 are taking care of their own.
The 118 are taking care of their own.
Somebody's taking care of Mark.
Um, and yes, that's the end of that

(01:49:58):
Probie probably gotstuck looking after Mark.
And when Owen wakes up, 'cause hekind of, he sort of looks around
and checks that like TK is okay, hesees Mark is okay, he checks that
Hen's okay and then he passes out.
Um, yeah.
And then when he wakes up,he's back in the medical tent
and Captain Vega is there.

(01:50:21):
Although, to start with, Owen thinksthat she's as much a hallucination
as Dead Paramedic Rosewater was.
Although hallucinations don't usually,
like, what are you doing here?
Are you here?
Hallucinations don't usually havemedicine and bottles of water.
But you know, I've, I'd neverhad a full auditory visual
hallucination, so what do I know?
But yeah, she gives him someheadache pills, which is

(01:50:43):
probably the least of his needs.
Well, they've been looking afterhim already, so maybe they gave
him the hard stuff earlier.
Apparently she arrived at first lightand she couldn't shake the feeling that
maybe you needed a friend out here.
So she just came all theway down there to, you know,
say hi?
Comfort him.

(01:51:03):
I dunno.
And then ironically shetells um, Owen that.
Everybody put a real hurt on the firebetween the containment line and rain.
'cause apparently it rained overnight.
I didn't see any evidence of rain.
Did we miss the rain?
No.
No we didn't see the rain.
We didn't miss the rain.
Okay.
There was no evidence of rain,but apparently it rained.

(01:51:25):
Yep.
Good.
Um, the fire has been containedand the 118 can go home.
So they drove 20 hours.
They were on site for let's say 18 tobe generous and now they have to turn
around and drive 20 hours back again.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What the fuck?

(01:51:46):
Like I know they can't stay therelong 'cause they've gotta get back.
So like next week we can havea like an LA episode, but
dude.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Normally the assignmentsare like weeks long.
Yeah.
Not 18 hours.
Like so that they can shuffle shifts.
Yeah.
Like you didn't wanna keep

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Fire's over now.
Well no it's not over.
It's just contained.
It's still burning but it'slike under control but maybe,
you know, you'd wanna keep
Yeah, we're good now.
Bye.
You'd keep them so you can restyour, your normal firefighters, let
them get some sleep and some foodand then they can go back in to
actually put the rest of the fire out.
No.
Okay.
What do I know?
Yeah, yeah.
Um, so we then get the 118 packing up.

(01:52:30):
Judd is desperate for Eddie to goto a barbecue place in Fort Stockton
and tell them that Judd sent them.
Um, but Eddie says, actually, we're justgoing to like swing past El Paso and eat,
eat at my parents, which is kind of cute.
Well if you're going all theway to Texas, you may as well.
Yeah.
Hi parents!
Drop in and say hello.

(01:52:50):
Bye parents!
Yeah.
With a fire truck.
I mean,
you just imagine Helena andRamon when this fire truck, like
pulls up in front of their house.
Yeah.
The neighbors are all peek out thewindows going, what's going on?
Who's on fire?
They have a cute little bonding moment.
They're so cute together.
I think it, um, Judds like found a newfriend that he now has to say goodbye to.

(01:53:13):
I think this,
I think this must be the pointwhere I was looking at Judd going,
he is huge compared to Eddie.
He's way taller.
Um, Eddie has like the cutest, he, Eddiehas such good connections with everybody.
Like he's made some really goodfriends in this short period of time.

(01:53:35):
Um, because once he said goodbyeto Judd, he turns around and
Marwani is, um, in an ATV again.
'cause apparently that's allshe does in this episode.
Um, and she, he asks her for apic, like a selfie for Instagram.
Because it's not every day that youget to take a selfie and 100% he's
just doing that to piss Buck off.

(01:53:58):
Um, yeah, not every day you get to selftake a selfie with hashtag Firefox.
Oh, that's right.
He actually says fucking hashtag.
Yeah, because he's 87 years old.
That's not how that works, Eddie.
Uh, so they, they pose for the selfie,um, Strickland wanders up and says, oh,
now that is just way too much pretty.
And I'm like, yeah, I mean,you're not wrong, dude.

(01:54:21):
Uh, Eddie and Strickland hug, they sortof exchange great workings with you.
Um, but before Eddie leaves,
they call each other, bro.
They call each other brother.
Everyone's calling each other brother.
Like it's everyone's brother.
Yeah, brother.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, and then he turns
brother, brother,
he turns to Marwani and says, for the loveof God, please follow Buck back on Insta.

(01:54:47):
He's gonna hear allabout it if he doesn't.
So, um, meanwhile,
but meanwhile
Buck is, is dealing withMarvin, with Mateo, who is
reminding him about his cousin.
It's like, "His name is Marvin Chavez,C-H-A-V-E-S. he gets it, gets out of

(01:55:08):
jail in about three months," and Buck'slike "Yeah, I will definitely, I'll keep
my eyes open. Definitely not look himup." so Mateo seems satisfied with that.
He disappears.
TK look, it looks like the 126 are helpingthe 118 load up 'cause they must have like
brought bags and bags of shit with them.

(01:55:28):
Yeah, I dunno how much the 118 broughtand why the 126 aren't packing up.
But anyway, I guess they're staying butthey've got nothing to do right now.
I dunno,
I'm ignoring it because weget some cute moments like
this ones, which is hilarious.
Um, so yeah, TK goes, "oh, youreally put yourself out there,
can't thank you enough." AndBuck's like, "oh, it's what we do.

(01:55:51):
Um, and hey, if you ever find yourselfin LA we should get together."
And TK says, "you know, sure. Um,I do have to mention though that I
already have a boyfriend and it'spretty serious. Um, but it was really
nice meeting you," and Buck's face

(01:56:13):
and like TK just like drops the mic andleaves and Buck's like I, that... he,
he has no idea that he has justrocked Buck's world without, you
know, ever actually touching him.
Um,
and, and then.
Meanwhile, Eddie comes through,like Eddie immediately appears.
Um, so TK is like, says, says goodbye.

(01:56:34):
And Eddie just goes, "Where's Hen?"Like and Buck's just like, what,
What just happened?
What?
Like, and like
Buck wasn't flirting
the fact that like, that... well.
Buck was just no, no.
Buck was, he's not, he wasnot consciously flirting.
He was just being,

(01:56:55):
he was not consciously flirting
and like Buck just being Buckmeans that he is like flirting
with everything that walks.
'cause that's just how he, youknow, interacts with, with people.
But the fact that TK's like, "Ihave a boyfriend. It's pretty
serious." And then Eddie shows up.
Oh, I didn't, I wasn't even
Tim Minear, I see you.
I wasn't even like the Eddie partI'm not even worried about, I'm just

(01:57:15):
fascinated by the fact that theychose this episode to have a very
openly queer character clock Buck.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Especially when you, um, when youthink about the fact that, you know,
they probably always intended orthey always wanted Buck to be queer.
And so this,

(01:57:35):
oh, that's a whole discussionwe'll get to later this season.
Yeah.
So this is kind of, um, like them slippingit in sort of while the big wigs and over
in LA weren't, weren't watching because
Yeah.
Weren't paying attention
because it doesn't count if it'sdoesn't count, if it's in Lone Star.
Even the OG 9-1-1 execswon't watch Lone Star.

(01:57:58):
So they're like, quick, quick,um, quick insinuate that Buck's
gay while no one's watching.
But anyway, yes, Eddie is, um, is moreworried not that the fact that Buck is
absolutely spiraling, I don't think heeven notices that Buck is spiraling.
Um, he's more interested in where Hen is.

(01:58:19):
Um, Hen unfortunately has tohave one more scene with Owen
Strand before she can leave.
So she's back in the medical tent.
Oh dear, poor Hen.
Yeah.
Um, where Owen is wandering aroundthe medical tent dragging his IV
around with him because he wantedto catch Hen before she shipped out.

(01:58:40):
And
nothing about this makes sense.
'cause apparently this is just reinforcedOwen's understanding that he's invincible
because he can't think of anotherreason how he made it out alive.
And then he says, who knew youcould get so stoned on oxygen?

(01:59:03):
And I'm like, what?
What,
where,
uh, you had a head injury?
I like,
I don't understand any of this.
'cause like, so apparently pure oxygencan give rise to the feelings of euphoria.
Yeah.
Like Hen says in
and Owen's like, "yeah, I'm not sureit was euphoria that was feeling."

(01:59:24):
And she goes, "What happens in themineshaft stays in the mineshaft."
What happened in the mineshaft?
Exactly.
And trauma dumped and passed out.
I'm so confused.
Didn't they pass out from lack of oxygen?
I'm apparently not?
I don't understand.
I don't know.
Maybe it's the trauma dumping, it's whatstays in the mine in the mine shaft?

(01:59:48):
But yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Maybe
no idea.
You are right.
It doesn't make a lot of sense.
I I don't get it.
I like, because Owen was like, oh yeah.
Like everyone I know dies...we already know that Owen.
You don't shut up about it.
Like, what do you mean?
What happens in the Minecraftstays in the mineshaft.

(02:00:08):
It happens every fucking week.
What happens in the Minecraftstays in the Minecraft.
Anyway, they, they part friends I guess.
It's weird.
Who the fuck knows.
And, and, um, Hen gets an upgradebecause she's now allowed to call
him Owen, not Captain Strand.
Mm. I'm guessing the wholesurname thing comes from Owen.

(02:00:31):
Like he's the one that's institutedthis whole, we only ever call
people, what do they call TK?
Because they can't call him Strand
TK.
They call him TK.
So TK is TK.
Yep.
Judd is Judd.
Yep.
Everyone else gets surnames.
Yeah.
So the white people get their first namesand everybody else gets their last names.

(02:00:52):
Yep.
Right.
Look it confused the hell outta me forso long because I could not work out if
Maja Han's name was Marjan or Marwani.
I was like, which is her first?
And which is her second becausethey interchange them so
much that I had to Google it.

(02:01:14):
Um, and yeah, Strickland like Iforget that his name's Paul because
they only call him Strickland.
And I'm just like, who the fuck is Paul?
Yeah.
Kind of like when they call ChimHoward and I'm just like, who's Howard?
Who's Howard?
Yeah, exactly.
I'm like, who the fuck is Howard?
Um, and we end like the last line ofthe episode is Hen saying, "Take care
of yourself Owen, even if you areinvincible." Which is why I asked, is

(02:01:38):
this invincibility thing something thatis constantly brought up in the series?
'cause they make such a big fuckingdeal about it in this episode.
I don't remember.
It does feel that way.
Yeah, I don't remember.
Oh, and with that, we aredone with the crossover.
Thank fuck for that.

(02:01:59):
Okay.
So I asked you this before, Ellen,but I'm gonna ask it now that
again now that we are recording,having watched this episode.
Yeah.
Are you inclined tocontinue watching Lone Star?
I mean, probably not.
I like, they don't really, um, Iguess they only had a short amount

(02:02:23):
of time in which to sell this othershow to new viewers, and I think
they've done a really bad job of that.
Yeah.
So,
because I don't really care enoughabout any of these individual people
in order to continue to watch.
Okay.
So I know that previously on thispodcast I have talked about the

(02:02:44):
crossover episode and I assumed thatit was the execs desperately trying to
drum up more viewership for Lone Star.
I assumed that the ratings,
is that not what the crossoverepisodes are for though?
Like to, no, I think that cross pollinate,
that's what I thought was tolike draw them in, like draw
people from the OG over to the,

(02:03:04):
I would think that if it were like apilot episode, so if the first episode
of Lone Star had had the characters fromthe OG 9-1-1 in it, that would make sense
because like that's what Gray'sdid with Private Practice.
Like it was a soft launch on Gray's.
And then spun off to its own,
you do like backdoor pilotsand things like that.
Yeah.
But actually watching this episodeand analyzing it, I don't think that

(02:03:29):
it was intended for new viewers.
I think that it's meant to be a reward forthe viewers of both 9-1-1 and Lone Star.
It's like you guys who are watchingnine one, the OG 9-1-1, you're
continuing to watch that and youfollowed us to over to Lone Star.
So as a little reward here areall your blorbos in one place.

(02:03:50):
Enjoy.
Because the episode doesn't makesense unless you have watched
both the OG 9-1-1 and Lone Star.
And I bet that if you knew who BuckEddie and Hen were and you knew who
Judd and Strickland and Marwani andOwen were, it would've been really
exciting to see all of them interacting.

(02:04:11):
Yeah.
And it would've been great publicity,but I don't think that it, I'm
now of the opinion that it was notintended to bring in new viewers.
Because if they were going to bringin new viewers, like you said,
Ellen, you don't care about thecharacters coming outta this one.
If you were trying to bring innew viewers, you would have like a
standalone episode where you couldget into more character introduction.

(02:04:34):
You are saying it's more like of anEaster egg episode than a promotional.
Yeah, yeah,
yeah.
Well I think maybe dropping them intolike an actual disaster like this, even
though it made sense from a storylineperspective where like they, the guys had
to come from LA to, you know, to Texas
that made, that made perfect sense.
The Dead Paramedic Rosewater part did notmake sense if you're trying to entice new

(02:04:57):
viewers to actually watch your episode,
Yeah, that made no sense at all.
That made sense if you'dwatched the previous episode.
Um, and wanted to Yeah.
But what I mean is like they've droppedthem into like a, a natural disaster,
which already takes up a lot of the story.
So there's no room for characterdevelopment or for introducing
even some of these characters, wedon't even know who they are with.

(02:05:18):
They're just there.
Um, and so if they wanted us to beinterested in these new people and
continue to watch their story, thenwe needed a bit more story, you know?
Yeah.
But all we got was the natural disaster.
Yeah.
Which was, which wasexciting in its own right.
Like the, the fighting of the fire.

(02:05:39):
Okay, great.
All, although all they did was diga tran dig, dig, you know, dig up
a, a fire break and then rescue.
Okay.
They rescue, rescue somekids, but that's it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, question for Bex as well.
Oh, okay.
If you hadn't seen anyof Lone Star at all Yeah.

(02:06:01):
And you'd only seen "Saving Grace",would that entice you to watch the show?
No.
No?
See, I love "Saving Grace" so much.
Like, I just wanted to likewrite a Destiel fic about it,
like I said, when, afterI watched "Saving Grace".
So I, I have watched that episode.

(02:06:21):
Um, I. It did not meet my expectations,so I didn't, I probably, I think
that "Saving Grace" is an excellentepisode If you had met Judd and Grace
previously and it fills the gaps intheir relationship and in their history,
and put some stuff in context for you.
Yeah.
So I didn't realize, did you sayyou've only watched two episodes?

(02:06:42):
Yes.
Of season one?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
See, I thought you'd watched more.
No, I think I, yeah, Igot to maybe the third.
I don't think I evenfinished the third episode.
That's how badly.
Wow.
Everyone pissed me off.
Um, and so watching "Saving Grace"with no context whatsoever, I was
extremely confused and I, yeah.
Okay.
Fair.

(02:07:02):
I felt like I was expecting kind of like aJudd Begins kind of episode once I figured
out what was going on and it didn't gointo the depth because I assumed that the
depth comes from the rest of the show.
The rest of it, yeah.
The context.
So no, even after watching "SavingGrace", um, I would now die for Judd.
Um, I would quite happily listen toJim Perrick read a phone book, um,

(02:07:28):
that is not strong enough to overcomemy obscene hatred for Owen Strand to
make me watch the rest of the show.
See, that's, I can't remember, like,I know Owen must have been in that
episode, but all I remember from thatepisode is the Grace and Judd stuff.
Oh, he's vaguely.
Which is why I was just like, he'svaguely there in the waiting room.

(02:07:49):
Yeah, that's what I mean.
Like if you didn't know thatOwen Strand was a thing,
unfortunately, I do know that Owen Strandis a thing and I'm, I'm having real
difficulty separating that knowledge.
And I'm pretty sure that even if I did,if I just watched Hold the Line and then
I watched Saving Grace and then I decidedto go back and start watching season one,

(02:08:10):
I would probably still be in the samepredicament where I'd get to the second
episode and just like, fuck this dude.
Fuck Liv Tyler.
I'm not watching anymore of this.
Literally, it was LivTyler was what turned me.
Like, I can deal with OwenStrand, like I can tune him out.
I'm used to Parks and rec.
Um, I don't hate Owen Strand asmuch as a lot of other people do.
He is annoying, but like, I just,I I tend to watch TV like this

(02:08:34):
while I'm doing other things.
Anyway, so when Owen's storylineswere on, I just sort of tuned out.
Um, and so he didn't annoy me as muchas like, I've seen so many people
and like Bex obviously includedpassionately hate Owen Strand,
and I'm like, he's not that bad.
Yes.
And then like, when you thinklogically, I'm like, yeah, okay.
He is that bad.
He's that bad.
But I just didn't payany attention to him.

(02:08:55):
Um, but I love all theother characters so much.
But the first season, like I just, itwas all Owen Strand and fucking, um,
Michelle, whatever her fucking name is.
Liv Tyler.
Yeah.
And I hate her so much.
She had no emotion, like.
She just talks in monotone constantly.
She does dumb shit.
And I'm just like, I don'tcare about your story.

(02:09:17):
Like you get dropped inhalfway through her story.
Yeah.
And they're trying to like build suspense,but I do not give a fuck about this
character enough to have any suspense.
Like there is no suspense.
I'm like, I don't careabout your dead sister.
Like, I do not care about youat all because she's just not a,
like, not a character that you canlike, empathize with because she

(02:09:39):
just does dumb shit all the time.
I think I would, I was givingLiv Tyler a pass because I loved
her so much in Lord of the Rings.
So I would like, and I remember goingthrough a phase where, because I loved her
and Lord of the Rings, I watched a lot ofher, um, sort of her backs back catalog.
She's not the interesting, I'veseen her in maybe one thing before.

(02:10:02):
She's not the best actress.
I think she very much her, most of hercareer is based on who her father is
and her looks not on her actual talent.
Yeah.
It's very nepotism.
Yeah.
Um, and she's beautiful, but like everyrole is pretty much the same except for
when she's playing an Elvish princess.
Um, so like I didn't really enjoyher character, but she did not

(02:10:26):
inspire the full fiery depths ofhell hatred that Rob Lowe did.
See, it's interesting that she likemade me want to murder everyone.
And you had that with Owen Strand,
so
that like you wanted to
I think it's because, I think it'sbecause like with Liv Tyler's character,
it's, it's kind of, well that's just,you know, bad writing and bad acting.

(02:10:50):
It's not necessarily her fault, butwith Rob Lowe it's definitely 100%
he like, so they, he came in as like,he was the big name that they were
building Lone Star around, much likethey built, um, the Los Angeles one
around Peter Krause and Angela Bassett.
But it's like, it went to Rob Lowe's headand he's dictated like, imagine if Peter,

(02:11:14):
I think he's just like that.
Imagine if Peter Krause went like, everysingle time there is an emergency, I
have to be the one to save the day.
I have to have all of the lines.
I have to be the big damnhero every single time.
I have to be the best.
That's what's happened withRob Lowe and Owen Strand.
Even if a storyline doesn't involve him,he still finds a way to make himself

(02:11:35):
be the big damn hero in that storyline.
And it's piss, it's like, it's theRob Lowe vehicle and I do not like it.
Yeah, that's fair.
Mm-hmm.
So it's like when I said when,um, like that scene where, um,
Owen goes like, it's too dangerousto send anybody else up there.

(02:11:55):
I would go myself, like 100%.
I could see that happening in LosAngeles with Bobby going, it's too
dangerous to send anybody else.
But Bobby seems so much more humble.
Yes.
Yeah.
There's like this humble,he doesn't make a big deal,
and Bobby's backstory isn't like, oh,I survived 9-1-1, so I'm invincible.
It's, oh fuck, I killed my family.
Yeah.
There's a, like, there's a, it's avery different vibe around Peter Krause

(02:12:19):
and his portrayal of Bobby and RobLowe and his portrayal of Owen Strand.
And it, it pains me because once I foundout about the existence of Lone Star,
I'm like, Rob Lowe, I love Rob Lowe.
That's Sam Seaborne.
That's my comfort blorbofrom the West Wing.
I loved him in the West Wing.
And then to find out thatI absolutely hated him.
And this show was such a body blow.

(02:12:42):
Yeah.
So if, if you wanted to avoid likethe first season and just start
at the beginning of season two,would that make any sense at all?
Like you'd, I think you'dstill have to watch the pilot.
Yeah.
'cause that's the, but then you couldprobably go straight into, like from
the pilot You do, you would miss alot of the buildup between TK and, um,

(02:13:06):
Carlos?
Carlos though.
And like Tarlos is one of thebig things about Lone Star.
So rumor has it that Tim Minear wantedto do Buddie and wasn't allowed to.
So it was like, well, fuck you guys.
And went and made Tarlos on Lone Star.
But the irony is thatit's the same network.
Like it's not like he took Yeah.

(02:13:27):
It's not like he shopped aroundand went to another network.
It's still on Fox
No, but because he introducedthem as gay characters.
Yeah.
They were initially gay.
It's not like a straight guy.
It wasn't, yeah.
And so he like was allowed to, so that'sthe, like the rumor, I don't know if
it's actually been confirmed anywhere.

(02:13:48):
We need to tie Tim Minear downand get some questions out of him.
And I think that's the other,
so many,
that's the other thing that pissesme off, off about Lone Star is how in
your face it is about its diversity.
Like they, it's very, yeah, they setit up and like, this is going to be the
most diverse house you have ever seen.
And so they've got this range ofcharacters who all have a very specific

(02:14:10):
reason why they are in that house.
And then most of their storylinesis, is or I, well, the, the ones
that I saw, so I saw see episode two,which I think is about Marwani being
kicked out of her mosque becauseshe's too popular on Instagram.
Um, right.
So every, so from what I saw,her storyline was very much

(02:14:31):
about her being a Muslim woman.
Um, was that the episode where herhijab slipped and they showed like,
I think so, in the grain silo?
Yeah.
And her, they showed her hair on thenews and so her, the, the, um, the
elders of the mosque kicked her out.
Yeah, I'm just like, oh, okay.
Yeah,
yeah.
Like the, as I said, Ihated the first season.

(02:14:54):
Hated it.
Um, my, if I didn't have my ex theretelling me to keep watching, I would
not, like, I probably would've given up.
Um, she assured me it got better.
It does get better.
It's still not the best, butit definitely gets better.
And I was definitely sad to haveit canceled because I do miss,

(02:15:16):
not Owen Strand, but I do missthe rest of the characters.
Like I miss Tarlos.
Um, I miss Marwani, I miss Strickland.
I miss Probie.
I miss Tommy and I miss Nancy.
Like Nancy isn't in this episode oreven mentioned, she's like a background
character pretty much in season one.
But by the end of it,she's like a part of them.

(02:15:36):
She's, um, the otherparamedic, like aside from, um,
Dead Paramedic Rosewater?
Tim, the dead guy.
Yeah.
Um, she is the other one.
And yeah, she's just in the backgroundand then like, actually calls,
like basically calls the show outfor having her in the background.
And then she stopsbeing in the background.
'cause like the Fireies areall very, like, very boys club.

(02:16:00):
And then spoilers for like later inLone Star, but TK joins the paramedics
and is, and they don't like him.
And he's like, but like why?
And they're like, well, yes, you're one ofus now, but you still hang out with them.
You still eat lunch with them.
You still, you know, go to games nightwith them and you don't integrate yourself

(02:16:20):
with us and how are we supposed totrust you if you are still one of them?
And so they integrate theparamedics and yeah, they become
like the whole little family.
Um, but yeah, Nancy's justsuch a good character.
Like she's so untraditionaland she's amazing.
And I love Nancy.
I love her so much would die for her.
I kept saying in the finalseason I was like, if they do

(02:16:41):
anything to her, I'm quitting.
Um, well that's the danger withcharacters like that, I suppose.
So interestingly, um, Lone Stargot canceled by Fox around the same
time that the OG 9-1-1 got canceled.
Um, and while ABC picked up9-1-1, um, it didn't wanna have
anything to do with Lone Star.

(02:17:02):
And I just find it hilarious because atthe time the, the line that they were
giving was, well, we have one firefightershow, we don't need another one.
So Fox allowed Lone Star justto end and now all of a sudden
ABC is premiering a brand...
yeah,
a brand new 9-1-1.
What that's all about?
Another firefighter show.

(02:17:24):
But when you look at thecast, they're all white.
Oh, really?
So it's like ABC didn'twant the diverse one.
It was too diverse?
No they're not all white.
I'm pretty sure there's one that's not
Oh, well you've got Chris O'Donnell,Jessica Capshaw, and Leanne Rimes.
Oh, they're the top.
Yeah.
Three big names.
They're the top.
They're throwing around.

(02:17:45):
I'm sure that there are otherpeople, but they're like, the
people that they're saying, comewatch this show for are white.
And they're all like,from Grey's Anatomy too.
So that's also weird.
Literally, I made a joke that, um,that the casting people from 9-1-1
Nashville were just like waitingoutside the Grey's Anatomy office
and sifting through their dumpsters.

(02:18:06):
They're like, oh, you're done with this.
I'm gonna, I'll take that now.
Yeah.
When's that start?
It must be fairly soon.
Uh, must be soon.
If they're dropping AItrailers on their social media.
Uh, no, not till, um, 9-1-1 OG comes back.
So October.
Um, okay.
They've only just started filming it.
I'm not watching.
Um, so yes, that's the end.

(02:18:27):
Hey, we get to watch, we get to watchDr. Odyssey in, um, in a few seasons too.
Oh, really?
Did they?
No, no, no.
Yep.
No,
they sure did.
No,
no?
No.
It still a crossover.
It still counts.
No,
it does!
It.

(02:18:49):
No.
Okay.
We don't have to.
It's literally just, um, Athena.
It's just Athena,
but it's still a crossover.
It's still like the storyline startsin 9-1-1 and ends in Dr. Odyssey.
So it still counts,
yes, but maybe we can justlet it end in Dr. Odyssey.

(02:19:13):
Let's deal with this crossover first.
Like
Okay.
We, we've dealt with it.
It's done.
We've done, um, do do you wannasay anything else about it
or can we actually sign off?
Sorry for the fans of LoneStar, Bex just hates it.
I, I don't hate,
I'm gonna cuddle my blorbos.
I don't hate it.
It's unfortunately just my hatredfor Owin tends to eclipse everything

(02:19:34):
else, including Jim Parrack.
Um, yeah.
Poor Judd.
Poor Judd.
But yes,
justice for Judd.
Justice for Grace.
Um, apologies if I've completelyruined your favorite TV show.
Um,
you had, you had to have known thatI was gonna go off though, if you've

(02:19:55):
listened to any other, although maybeyou haven't, maybe you just saw that
we did Lone Star and decided to listen.
In which case, I'm very sorry if thiswas your first introduction to, well, me.
We should, we should maybeput a disclaimer at the start.
That's just like, if you enjoyLone Star and enjoy this episode.
Don't listen to this one.
Just filter out Bex,
um, filter me out.

(02:20:15):
Fuck, I'm like threequarters of the episode.
I don't Shut up.
People who've normal who watched ThatWeeWoo Show normally will have like,
should have known that this was coming.
You've made your feelings clear before.
Alright, do let us knowwhat you thought about this.

(02:20:38):
You're welcome to rant.
Does this episode make youwant to watch Lone Star?
Yeah.
Actually I'd be interested to know ifanyone else has watched just this episode.
Um,
and then
do you now wanna go and watch more?
Did you watch this episode?
And did you start LoneStar based on this episode?
Yeah.
Did you not start, had, did you watch thisepisode and then just continue with 9-1-1?

(02:21:00):
But now you're curious and wannago back and start Lone Star, did
we inspire you to start watching?
Which I dunno how,
I hope not because itdoesn't feel like that.
Did you miss, um, did you miss Carlos asmuch as the rest of us in this episode?
Let us know.
There are myriad differentways that you can let us know.
Um, what, what do we actually havecoming up in the LA version of the show.

(02:21:25):
So, um, so Eddie, Buck and Henreturned to Los Angeles just in time
for Athena to investigate a murderduring a neighborhood block party.
And the 118 racing twodiffuse a bomb threat.
Meanwhile, Chimney has a hardtime keeping secrets when Maddie

(02:21:47):
and Buck's parents come to town.
Oh, that's right.
We're gonna go back withthat storyline again.
Yeah, we get that storyline.
Woohoo.
Um, triggers for the next episode.
We have bad parenting, um, blackmail, adog at threat poisoned, but it survives,

(02:22:09):
gun violence, um, and threat of massviolence at a workplace via a bomb.
Um, also shirtless Chimney incase that's a trigger for anybody.
Or maybe just a warning that Aliceand I are gonna be like unable to talk
for a little bit in the next episode.
'cause
Yeah, I, I'm not gonna knowwhat happens in that scene.

(02:22:31):
Yeah,
I think Kenny must have had an extra, Idon't know, in this contract saying you
must take your shirt off in every episode.
Kenny was having a good season.
Let's just not argue.
I don't know what was in the waterfor season four, but I think they
need to give it back to Kenny 'causehe needs to like be shirtless more.
Please.
Yeah,
he's older now.
I don't care.

(02:22:51):
Man's still built.
We are not complaining.
Nope.
Um, yes, let us know what you thoughtof this episode as we said already.
Um, you can leave us a commenton Spotify or on the episodes
post on thatweewooshow.com.
Thanks for listening this week andwe will talk to you next time about,

(02:23:12):
we're going back to the og, um, for
go back to LA
for episode four,
but not Disneyland.
Not Disneyland.
That is the bad place.
Um,
uh, that'll be episode 4, "9-1-1,What's Your Grievance?" See you then.
Bye.
Bye.
9-1-1 is a fictional show, butmany of the situations portrayed

(02:23:35):
happen in the real world too.
If any of the topics we've discussedin this episode have affected you,
please know you are not alone.
You can call or text numbersin your country for help.
Just Google crisis support in yourlocation to find out the number.
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(02:23:56):
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