Season 3 Wrap

Bex, Alice and Ellen discuss the whole of 9-1-1's third season.

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Episode Transcript

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9-1-1.
What's your emergency?
Welcome back to That Weewoo Show, apodcast where we watch and discuss
episodes of the A B C show, 9-1-1.

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I'm Bex.
I'm Alice.
And I'm Ellen.
As always, thank you to everyonewho has listened to our episodes,
who has rated us on their podcastepisode listening platform of choice.
And for those of you who have leftcomments on either our various episodes

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on YouTube or Spotify, or who havetagged us in comments on any of our
social media platforms, thank you verymuch for letting us know that there
are people out there listening to us.
And it's not just the three ofus sitting in our various living
rooms talking into the void.
As we've said before, you, we'llquite happily talk into the
void, but it's nice to know thatsometimes the void talks back to us.

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Yeah.
Um,
we, we do love beingspoken to by the void.
Yes.
We've had some comments on the lastcouple of episodes of season three.
Oh
yes.
If I can find them.
Okay, so from, uh, Celtic Witch onYouTube, who, uh, Celtic, I think you

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are the only person who is watchingor listening to us on YouTube.
So thank you very much for being the onewho's keeping us alive on that platform.
They left a comment on "Powerless"that said, I actually really liked the
HenRen subplot in this episode, whichis the Karen thinks Hen is cheating.
Hen is actually just talking tosomeone about taking her MCATs.

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They said, I never hated the Hencheating storyline to begin with.
And it felt like a realistic way toshow how that sort of thing can have
longer term effects on a relationship.
And Celtic Welsh also left us acomment on YouTube about "What's Next".
Um, and I'm just gonnaread it out verbatim.

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It's, it's a long one,but it's a good one.
And it says, I do wonder if they broughtAbby back because of audience reaction
to her ghosting back in season two.
She went from a well-liked characterto a somewhat disliked character
because of that writing choice.
And so I wonder if bringing herback was to have Buck seen to not
be mad at her so the audience alsowould not be mad at her anymore.

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The degree to which that worked will vary.
I know, I know people who love herand wanted to come back, and those
who hate her and hate that buck didn'treally defend his own side as much.
It's been a while since I watchedthis episode, but I think I
enjoyed it more than you guys.
Yeah.
Okay.
Uh, we did have a very, um, verystrong reaction to this episode.

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Um, the only bit I really rememberis the train rescue, and I liked the
dynamic on the train with Buck, wantingto save both passengers and Bobby
and Eddie being exasperated with him.
That would be the infamous Abby.
It's his fiance's Abby line.
And I enjoyed Hen and Chin withthe poor decapitated boy, although

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it's horrifying to think about.
It's a horrifying thing to think about.
Absolutely horrifying to think about.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
It's funny how, um, they say thatthey enjoyed it more than we did.
It's like, um, like I didn't mind, Ididn't hate that episode, honestly.

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Like I, the only, like on thefirst watch show, I thought it
was really exciting and, you know,a bit now biting and everything.
It wasn't until we startedtalking about it and.
You started pointing out the things that
Yeah, it's me.
It was,
and then I was like,
It's 100 percent me just,
yeah.
Okay.
It's kind of weird.
It, it is one of those episodesthat like, you watch and you're

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like, oh yeah, this is fine.
And then when you actuallybreak it down and think about
it logically, you're like, oh,
Yeah.
So I, okay, so I saw this, videofrom Jason K Pargin, who is an,
uh, an author who posts on, Ithink he's on TikTok, but he po I I
always see him in reels on Facebook.
He just keeps popping up.
Yeah, we're old guys.
We, um,
yeah.
Yeah.
I don't, I don't have TikTok, but forsome reason I still look at Facebook.

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I don't know why it's,it's a cesspit, honestly.
Anyway,
I do the same thing, but anyway,
you know, yes.
It's worse than Twitter, honestly.
Yeah, yeah.
It's shit.
But it's a good way to keep in touchwith people who I don't see all the time.
But anyway, um, yeah.
Okay.
I just aged myself there.
Um, anyway, this guy.
He often has pretty good, um, opinionson stuff which are entertaining.

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But he was, in this video, he wastalking about Star Wars in particular
and how people don't notice potholes.
Like there are some people who alwaysnotice potholes and complain about them,
but there are a lot of people who justdon't even notice them because they're
enjoying the storytelling so much thatthey just, that they're willing to like,
throw out things that are annoying thembecause they're enjoying the story anyway.

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And I, I guess it, it feels a bit likethat when you first watch something on
a surface level, you could be reallyenjoying it, but if you start noticing
things behind the actual story itself,like technical things or whatever.
Then the storytelling is not up toscratch, you know, the, the storyteller
isn't doing their job properly.
Yeah.
When we're watching it to vibe,then it's fine, but when we're

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actually trying to be critical ofit, we're like, oh, this isn't good.
Yeah, that's right.
So when we are watching it, we canbe enjoying it and, but then once you
start looking at it more critically, it.
Sometimes the wheelsstart to fall off a bit.
And we do, promise everybody.
We do actually reallylove watching the show.
We do.
We miss it when we haven't watched it.

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To be fair though.
And it, uh, the point of the author wasthat if the storyteller has done their job
properly and they're hitting the correctemotional beats, you are either not
gonna notice or you're not going to careabout the logical fallacies within the
story or the massive plot holes becauseyou are enjoying the storyline too much.
There are still episodes of this showthat I have like ripped to absolute

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pieces and I still love them and I willstill enjoy them every time I watch
them even knowing the massive potholes.
Absolutely.
Look, when we get to my favoriteepisode later in the season, I'll be
like, no is allowed to say a bad word.
We just have to live off the vibes.
Um,
I mean, we went through theentirety of Supernatural.

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On vibes?
Yeah,
like loving it, but oh my God,it's just one big plot hole.
So
The good Supernatural is theSupernatural that lives in our heads.
And the good Supernatural is
and in fanfiction,
the friends we made along the way.
Absolutely.
Same goes for 9-1-1.
So yes, Celticwelsh it's understandablethat you enjoyed, uh, "What's Next?" More

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than, uh, we did because you did not haveme sitting over your shoulder going, um,
well actually, um, every five minutes.
Um,
but once again, uh, thank you for, uh,basically propping up our YouTube channel.
Um, we, we do reallyappreciate your comments.
Um, I always enjoy going into thenotifications to see what you've

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thought of our latest episode.
And on Spotify, we got probablymy favorite comment ever from
imakestuff which says, the showmentioned Abby so much, they basically
summoned her like Bloody Mary.
Yes.
Thank you.
Thank you to both of those people.

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Um, we can talk more about theHenRen stuff later when we're
discussing that kind of arc, butyeah, thank you for your comments.
It's always interesting to see whatother people take out of storylines.
Yeah.
Or like take from storylines.
Yeah.
I mean, everyone's got their ownperspectives on things, right?

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Yes.
We are not a, we are nota monolith as an audience.
Everyone brings their ownperspectives and life experiences.
Yeah.
And likes and dislikes to the show and,and takes different things away from
all the episodes, which is good becauseotherwise I think the show would be
incredibly boring if it was just, ifeverybody liked everything all the time.

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Yeah.
Not only the show, the world would be veryboring if everyone saw everything the same
discussions about everythingwould be the same.
Like you are like, whatdo you think about this?
Oh yeah, I agree.
I really, oh yeah, I agree too.
Yeah.
All right.
What do we do now?
Sometimes it feels likewe do that, but we try.
We try to bring our own opinions.

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Okay.
Speaking of opinions, shall we dive in forseason three and what we thought about it?
Yeah, so this episode isour season three wrap up.
I can't believe we've made itthrough three whole seasons.
It's amazing.
I'm so excited that we'refinally about to hit season four.
But I, I feel like you say that at thebeginning of every, you're like, I'm so,

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I'm so happy we're finally about to hitseason three, and now you're so happy.
You finally, you're pretty muchgonna be happy we hit every,
no, we'll get to the end of seasonfive and I'll be like, do we have to,
can we just go back to season four?
Um, like I'm, I'm regrettingthat we're up to season six.
Yeah.
Um, no.
So season four is where I startedlike, paying attention to the show.

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Like, I didn't watch it, like watchfull episodes, but I watched clips
and stuff like through Twitter.
Right.
And yet, like my favorite episode ofthe entire show is in season four.
So,
okay.
We're gonna get throughseason three first.
We're very excited.
We do.
We do.
Um, so I think we should startby asking you, Ellen, um, what

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you thought of season three.
Since this is your first time through
Oh God, okay
watching this season.
Yeah, we, I'm gonna be puttingyou on the spot a lot, so Yeah,
that's, you'll be prepared.
Just throw me under the bus right away.
Um,
no, not under the bus.
Should we go through what,what Ellen thought, thought
was coming up first and then
Well, I thought we'd, we'd startwith what did you, what do you think?
And then we'll compare it back towhat you thought was gonna happen.

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Yeah.
All right.
Yeah.
Well, I was thinking about this earliertoday actually, that looking at the, um,
the whole season overall, like when weconsider whole seasons of Supernatural, we
can sort of say, okay, that was the seasonwhere they had, like, where Dean had
the Mark of Cain and this is the seasonwhere they had to deal with Amara or
whatever, you know, like there, there wasan overarching thing for the whole season.

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Whereas 9-1-1 doesn't reallyseem to do that so much.
So you kind of have toconsider groups of episodes.
So we had like the tsunami bitand then we had the, the bit where
Maddie was stalking her caller.
And then there was different kindof overlapping little sections.
Overall, I think Ireally liked this season.

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I thought it was like we, we had a lotof growth in all of the characters and
you know, the, in general, the, um,the emergencies were exciting and I,
I, I enjoyed watching the whole thing.
But overall it, it's hard to makean overall kind of comments about
the whole thing since it wasso varied all the way through.

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Well, that's fair enough.
Does that make sense?
Yes.
Yeah, it does make sense.
I do agree that in a lot of, um,television shows, you can define a
season by, its, its storyline arc, likeespecially, what else was I thinking?
Kind of Buffy was one thatyou could do that as well.
This was the Angel season.
This was the college season.

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Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
They often have like some bigbad, like a boss who they're
about to defeat by the end of it.
Yeah.
It's a
Yeah, a specific big bad for each season.
Yeah.
Like in a real, in areal life kind of format.
You don't really have that.
It's just the world isthe boss every time.
Yeah.
They don't have to defeat the tsunami.
They just have to deal with it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's right.

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I mean, that, that is one way thatwe do define 9-1-1 is by the, the big
emergency for that season, but there, thatemergency doesn't define the whole season.
So like season three is the tsunamiseason, but that's only sort of
two or three episodes, right?
Yep.
So the, in the season two wrap up,we asked Ellen what she thought was

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going to be coming up in season three.
Mm-hmm.
And this is what she said.
She said that, uh.
Buck is gonna go back towork as a firefighter.
That's an obvious one.
So you were right about that.
Congratulations.
Correct, tick.
Suspect that the, uh, Hen and Karenadding to potent, uh, potentially
adding to their family may endup being a point of tension.

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I don't get that impression from the chat.
It's a bit of a tense discussion kind.
So kind of called that one.
We had the, the infertility storylinethat played out for Karen and Hen.
Mm-hmm.
Go Me!
Uh, Chim and Maddie.
I know they're together forever.
They're wonderful.
I love them.
So yeah.
For them.
I'm assuming they'll be more ups anddowns with them though, but they're great.

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I'm glad they decidedto give it another go.
Yes.
Yeah.
Um,
yeah, they did have ups and downs.
'cause there was the wholelike, stalking thing.
There was the stalking thing.
There was the, the ignition oftheir relationship culminating
in Chim, offering her a draw.
And then like the, the ultimate upbeing that they're gonna have a baby.

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Yeah, they're pregnant.
And then the last bit was,who did I leave out, Eddie?
I don't know.
I don't know what Eddie's doing.
I don't think Eddie knows what he's doing,
which, yeah.
Fight Club
is still, still current.
Yes.
So well done.
I think that was a good guess atwhat was gonna happen in this season.

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Okay, good.
Go me
And moving forward, I'm not entirelysure what's gonna happen for season
four, except that there's gonna bea lot of Buddie involved apparently.
Well see.
I was at the end of this.
I was gonna ask you, oh, I was gonnaask you like, what do you think
is gonna happen in season four?
Except I kind of can't becauseyou've already seen the

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first episode of season four.
So you know the answers to a lot of thequestions that I was gonna ask, ask you.
So full disclosure, I do.
I, I did, I have watched thefirst two episodes of season four
already, um, which I wanna, so
like was gonna ask,
which wanna do before now, but, um, I,I got sort of forced into it and I'm
not mad about it, but, uh, because Iwas missing, I was missing the show.

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I'm like, oh, I need, Ineed to watch an episode.
And it was really nice to goback to it after a couple weeks.
Yeah.
Um,
so I was gonna ask you things like,you know, what do you think is
gonna happen with May's storyline?
What do you think is gonnahappen with Athena's storyline?
Yeah.
And you know, what's gonnahappen with their storylines now.
No, I mean, I kind of guessed because,um, because she does, you know, say to
Maddie, like, actually when, when Maddieasked her about going to uni and she's

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like, "Well actually I had somethingI wanted to ask you." I'm like, oh,
she's gonna go to the 9-1-1 dispatch.
And
okay,
sure enough.
See, but that's not a guess anymore.
'cause you know that's what happens.
I know that's what happens, but I did,I did guess that that might be coming.
Yes, well done you then forguessing that like, I mean,
it was telegraphed so clearly

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it was quite, it was quite obvious.
Yes.
But I don't think there was anythingelse in the first episodes in
season four that I, um, you know,there was a particular surprise.
Anyway, we can talk about that next week.
But, um, yes.
Yeah, for this season, . I don't know.
I'm guessing, uh, if we are going to dothis now, and I'm gonna tell you what my

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predictions are, my, I'm guessing thatthere will be some kind of a, a love
interest for either Buck or Eddie or both.
That's not each other
fe female love interest.
A, a different, a different love interest.
Yep.
Yeah,

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because we didn't have any, any ofthat apart from when Eddie was kind
of making eyes at Chris's teacher, butyeah, nothing happened with that yet.
So Maddie's gonna have her baby, I hope.
I'm always worried when we have likebaby storylines and I have not seen

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the baby in any promo or anything,and I'm always worried that there
something's gonna happen, you know,that's not gonna be a good outcome.
But, um mm-hmm.
So yeah, I haven't seenanything about that.
No, I have not been spoiled, so Idunno what's happening with that.
Okay.
Interesting.
All right.
I'm, I'd say I'm writing it all down,but it comes up in the transcripts,

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so I'm just gonna be like going backand copying it from the transcripts.
And then I will, we will presentthat to you at, in the season four
wrap up and go, here's how youdid for predicting season four.
Great.
I can hear my deranged ramblings later.
Awesome.
I'm going through, like, I'm lookingat the episode list of season four.
And that it's just,it's so much good stuff.

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There's only 14 episodesnext season as well, so,
right.
Yeah.
Like it's not heaps shorter,but it feels a lot shorter.
Is that just because you wentthrough it like really fast, like
when you watched it the first time?
No.
Well, like you, we are missing fourepisodes from like, because normally it's

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18 episodes in a season, but it's only 14.
So
actually one thing that I did, Iwas expecting, and we get it in next
episode, is the COVID storyline.
So we knew that at the end when theyfinished filming season three, COVID
had just kind of started and they,they finished filming before with
all the lockdowns, but then seasonfour will be, you know, actually

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portraying COVID in the show.
Um, yeah, so.
I, I look, I'm looking forward to seeinghow all of that plays out in the show.
It feels so like, such a long time agonow, bit of five years ago nostalgia.
That's a good point
. Yeah.
It's, it's interesting because whenit was happening, it was so current
and so many TV shows put it in theirseasons and now looking back it's

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like, oh, why did they do that?
Well, there were some TV shows that justcompletely ignored it and just pretended
it didn't happen at all in their universe.
Yeah.
But yeah, but
like, I re-watched Superstore recentlyand they have like a whole season
of COVID too, and I'm like, Ugh.
Like, we already lived through this.
We're over, we're over that.
Like rewatch it five years later.
Yeah.
I mean, it, it does date it thenlike you, you can, it was that era.

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Definitely.
But anyway, we shouldtalk about season three.
We should talk about season three.
Well, I have plenty of time totalk about season four when we're
actually watching season four.
Watch me.
Like, I'll be like, oh my God,season four is my favorite.
And then as soon as we startbreaking down the episodes, I'll be
like, this episode fucking sucked.
Why do I like this season?
Why am I watching this show?

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Well, interestingly when we looking atseason three and as you know, one of the
usual questions we ask in our wrap upis like, what is your favorite, what is
your least favorite episode of a season?
And going through season three, I actuallystruggled to find a least favorite
episode or an episode that I hated.

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I did too.
I know.
Yeah, so yeah, because we've doneseason one and season two and been
episodes that I've actually beenfrothing at the mouth at about how much
I hate them and that I will refuse torewatch them, and I'm ranting until
Kingdom comes about how bad it is.
I, I mean, I'm sure that everybody who haslistened to all of our episodes could call

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me out on this and go, actually, do youremember what you said about this episode?
In this episode?
Um, but I don't remember hatingan episode with a fiery passion.
Yeah.
In season three.
I'm going through the list.
And same like there weresome that had stupid moments.
Definitely.
Yeah.
Yes.
But like Ellen was saying, therewere so many small storylines and

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small story arcs that overlappedthat even if it was an episode that
like, not, like 75% of it sucked.
It still had another storylinein it that I really liked.
And so I would go like, okay, yeah.
I don't particularly enjoy thispart of that episode, but I really
liked that part of that episode.
So all of the episodes kind ofget a pass because there is at

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least one part of it that I liked.
Hmm.
Yeah.
I just looked at one and Iwas like, maybe that one.
And then I'm just like, no, not that one.
Yes.
'cause I liked the start of that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's the strength of seasonthree is that it had a very, I don't
know who was in charge of the writer'sroom for this one, whether they actually
managed to get a good season arcgoing, but each episode played nicely

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into the next episode, and it becamea very cohesive season as a whole.
It did.
Yeah.
There's only one episode thatI really think kind of is like,
this one is not like the others.
Yeah.
I don't know.
There were some, like, obviouslythere were some threads that went all
the way through like, um, Michael's,um, tumor kind of storyline.

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There were a lot of episodes involvingthat and, but there were some, like,
I think the one that you're thinkingof is probably "Eddie Begins", right?
It doesn't really relate to theepisodes on either side of it
actually, no.
Oh, okay.
I mean, yes.
But I was actuallythinking "Athena Begins".
Yeah.
Okay.
I feel like "Athena Begins" couldhave gone in any, any, any season.

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In any part of any season.
I mean, episodes that rely really heavilyon flashbacks are like that anyway I think
because they are focused on what happenedin the past, not so much at present,
but then you've got something like"Chimney Begins" where they tied "Chimney
Begins" into the current storyline.

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So even though it relied heavily onflashbacks, it was still rooted in
chimney bleeding out in current time.
Mm. Yeah.
I mean, it was similar withAthena and Eddie, but what the
events that were happening in thepresent time didn't really relate
to the overall story progression.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think where they put "Eddie Begins"worked really well because it was after.

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The two episode arc of likethe hostage situation, like
"Taking of Dispatch 9-1-1".
'cause that obviously ended,like, that started at the end
of the fir the episode previous.
And so it finished off that arc andthen we went into "Eddie Begins".
So it didn't have to be tying back.
Wasn't that before that?

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Hang on, I, I'm open mylist of episodes again.
No, I think "Eddie Begins" is after"Dispatch 9-1-1" because we were making
jokes that, uh, Ryan was off doing B rollduring "The Taking of Dispatch 9-1-1".
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, you're right.
Sorry.
God.
So we had "Pinned", which is the onewhere they had like Chimney and Maddie
had the date, which was real cute.
And then after the date, Maddiewalks back into work on the phone

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with Chim and that's where the,
the hostage situation starts
that's where the hostage situation starts.
Yeah.
And then we have "The Taking ofDispatch 9-1-1" where obviously,
it continues and wraps up.
So do we wanna talk about some ofthese season arcs that were in?
Like the small, the shortkind of few episode arcs?
Yeah.

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Just to remind us what weactually had in this season.
I think this season most charactersgot at least one decent story arc.
Nobody got left behind.
Well, except for Bobby.
I think Bobby got leftbehind a little bit.
I mean, he was there a lot, but yes,there was not a lot of like Bobby

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suppose centric episodes this season.
Yes.
Season one and two.
He had a lot.
Yeah, he was very dad in this season.
He was everyone's dad.
He was very dad in this season.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So season arcs, we had Buck, uh,who started off recovering from the
fire truck, uh, crushing his leg.
So he obviously, wasout of action for a bit.

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He got caught in the tsunami with Chris.
Uh, he then went through the lawsuit arcand the grocery store fight with Eddie.
Well, that falls into thelawsuit arc. The lawsuit era.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, and then Red showing him sort of hisfuture and ending with Abby coming back.

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Yeah, that's interesting.
'cause the, like, the tsunami andthe lawsuit stuff was all in the very
beginning of the season, and thenthe Abby stuff was right at the end.
So there was like this period inthe middle where Buck was just
the "what does it, what doesthat mean?" Person, you know?
Yeah.
This season, like the whole startwas Buck and then it ended on Buck

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as well, which is interesting.
Yeah.
Because he was injuredand out out of the team.
Yeah.
So the lawsuit, like I, the waythat you guys had been talking about
it, I expected it to be so muchbigger than actually was because it
only, it was only a few episodes.
But like,
it's like two episodes, I think.
Yeah.
It's kind of never come back againat in the rest of the season.

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It's kind of like the same, when we weretalking about the Supernatural, like
the widower arc and the divorce arc.That's like two episodes in Supernatural.
Yeah, I guess so.
Yeah.
Like a Demon Dean, like he wasonly a demon for like two episodes.
That was it.
Literally, he was ademon for two episodes.
The, the promos for se likethat season were all like, oh

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my God, he's gonna be a demon.
This is gonna be huge.
And then he's not a demon.
And after like two episodes it'slike, oh, that's, yeah, we're done?
Like, he had a threesome withCrowley and now we're done.
Yeah,
it was weird that, I don't know, we've,we've talked about it extensively already,
but um, that Buck sort of took the wholething out of proportion and then felt

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really bad that the lawyer had taken itand just run with it and everyone else was
getting in trouble because of somethingthat he didn't mean to happen, you know?
Yeah.
He was, he was very immaturein the lawsuit arc, I feel.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't wanna say it was out of,yeah, it wasn't out of character, but
it's completely within character.

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Yeah.
No, I'm not saying it's out ofcharacter, but like, very immature
and I, like, every time I sell likecat laxative at work now all I can
think of is Happy Cat laxative powder.
Do you sell a lot of cat laxative powder?
I mean, it's paste.
That's, but yes, we sell cat laxative, um,like not every day, but regularly enough

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Aw,
those poor kitties.
But like, it helps breakup hairballs as well.
Um, but yeah, every time I sell itor every time I'm like stocking the
shelf with it, or every time I walkpast it and like have to face it up,
I'm just like, you could, I couldn'teven call you to bail me outta jail
if that's something that
was something that was happened.
If that was something that happened.

(27:11):
So that's the other good thing.
You've got, like, you've got theintersection between the lawsuit
arc with like Eddie's illegalfight club arc and the way those
two kind of play in together.
Yeah.
Well, do we want to go on to Eddiebecause they do overlap then.
So we've got like from, uh, from Eddie,reassuring buck that he's the one

(27:32):
that he trusts the most with Chris,like at the end of the, the tsunami.
Um, Buck is so upset about whathappened with Chris, but Eddie's like,
"it's okay, it wasn't your fault."And then we go into, this is the,
Hey, what is the exact quote?
Hang on, I gotta pull up the group chat.
"Buck. There's no one in this world Itrust with my son more than you." I had

(27:52):
to explain that to my kid the other day.
He had my phone and he islike, "You got a chat from
B-T-N-I-T-W. What does that mean?"
Just dead eye him, "Buck.
There's no one in thisone I trust with my son.
I trust more with my son.
More than you."

(28:15):
Yeah.
And then what, how, how manyepisodes is it between that and
then going into the actual lawsuit?
They happen sort of at the same time.
So that was...
that's right.
Because Buck's not working
the end of this, that wasthe end of "The Searchers".
Yeah.
Okay.
That's right.
And then you get, you get"Triggers" and then you get "Rage".

(28:38):
So you get one episode between,um, the end of the tsunami rage
is where the fight club comes in.
Yeah.
He said Buck is on light duty.
That actually "Triggers" was onmy list of potential, like least
favorite episodes just because, um,it was the one with the, the sisters
who were arguing about their mom's

(29:00):
Yeah.
Inheritance and who, who werelike, I just realized looking at
the Wikipedia page about all this,that they were real life sisters.
Like the, the actors who played thosetwo sisters were real life sisters.
Oh, there you go.
I hadn't, I dunno if we mentionedthat during the, our chat about it,
but I thought that was pretty funny.
I don't think we did.
Um,
yeah, there you go.
But yeah, that episode was kindof like, not much happened in it.

(29:24):
It was way like when Maddie discovered.
Yeah.
It's definitely, it's a bridgebetween the tsunami ending and
like Buck starting the lawsuit.
So yeah, that's when the,uh, like Eddie decides on the
unhealthy coping me mechanisms.
Mm-hmm.
And that then the "Rage" not only has.

(29:45):
Like, they're more going to the, thesmashing up room to let out their rage.
Um, it also has that awful trafficstop where Michael and May and
the kids get stopped by the cops.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Rage.
Rage had a lot going on.
Rage.
Yeah.
That was like possibly one of the mostemotionally, um, difficult episode

(30:10):
to watch, just for that reasons.
Yes.
But well done.
Well made.
But then also had, also had oneof my favorite lines in, which
was just Chim deadpan like "Doesthe adulterous slut have a name?"
Yeah.
I love Kenny so much.
Yes.
He has some cracking lines in this season.

(30:31):
Yes.
Breaking it down into like, intolike three A and three B, "Triggers"
is probably the weakest of three A.
Yeah.
Um, but not in a bad way because the firstthree episodes are such high tension that
it's kind of nice to have that little bitof a downer or a little bit of a break.

(30:53):
Yeah.
Then after Eddie gets all of hisrage out, we have a little bit of
a break from Eddie, but then weget the introduction of Ana Flores.
Oh yes.
How early in the season was that though?
Uh, she came in, was it 12 episode 12?
Oh, that was later.
Yeah, that was later.
Yeah.
12.

(31:13):
Okay.
Sorry, I thought we were goingin, in chronological, but we're
just going through Eddie's stuff.
That's cool.
I was confused.
Yeah.
I think I'm like, Anawasn't that early in this.
No, I think it makes sense ifwe, like we've done gone through
Buck, then we'll go through Eddieand it probably makes a sense.
If we kind of take it characterby character and work out
all of the individual arcs.

(31:34):
Otherwise, because like some ofthese episodes it's like three
separate character arcs all inone or they're all overlapping.
So if we just take itcharacter by character.
Yes.
So we've got, you know, Eddiealmost killing a guy in Fight Club
and really only stops when Bobbyintroduces him to Frank and he
gets some actual proper therapy.

(31:55):
That's right.
They all go to therapy.
Poor Frank.
Yes.
The revolving door of Frank,
because Maddie's going to see him as well
and Hen
and and Hen later.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So he gets some therapy,then he meets Ana.
Ana, I'm just gonna call her Ana.

(32:17):
Didn't we work out that her name was Ana?
Yeah, but I'm stilljust gonna call her Ana.
I don't care.
Okay.
She's Ana in my head.
Um, which is the first time we'veactually seen Eddie interact
with a woman on this show.
What about Shannon?
'cause we've had, well,Shannon's different.
Shannon was his wife.

(32:37):
We got the first time we met her.
She was his wife.
Shannon's not a woman, she's his wife.
No, but I mean, think about everytime that previous to meeting Shannon,
there were multiple opportunities wherewomen were like throwing themselves at
Eddie and he's like brushing them off.
He's not been interested.
Like, oh no, I can't, I have a kid.
And the woman's like,oh, I've got a kid too.

(32:59):
And Eddie's like, fuckthat was supposed to work.
Um, but now he doesn't have thehindrance of a wife back in Texas
or California or wherever she was.
And so they've decided to dangleanother woman in front of him.
Then we discovered he really doesn'thave game when it comes to women.
I mean, through this season we discovered.

(33:20):
Like, I felt like in season two,I mean Eddie was new, but we
barely got any time with him.
Whereas in this season we've seen a lotmore of him with Chris and like in his
past and how he's dealing or not dealingas the case may be with, um, losing
Shannon and all that's come out I guess.

(33:40):
Yeah.
"Eddie Begins" was incredibly importantto sort of flesh out Eddie's storyline.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I feel like we definitely needed"Eddie Begins" before his story
post Shannon could continue.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like it gave Shannon the neededbackstory as well to put her at rest

(34:04):
respectfully rather than, you know,Shannon dying and then Eddie being
like, oh, I'm gonna go bang someone new.
I think maybe now that you've seen "EddieBegins" you probably have a little bit
more context as to why Alice and I hadthe reactions to Shannon that we did,

(34:25):
but yeah, I mean, I like, I thought itwas great that they fleshed out that
story a lot more like between them.
I mean, both of them have been through somuch, like I just would like to hug them.
Yeah.
Individually.
Yes.
Oh, I'll take a joint hug.

(34:48):
Leave me alone, Buzzfeed.
It's okay.
We seem to be safe from, um, fromBuzzfeed in the depths of the podcast.
Buzzfeed, if you're listening, pleasedo not look at our transcripts.
God, I haven't watched any of, we'venever tried to knock up the tweet videos.
Oh, it's so good.

(35:10):
I just watching Ryan crying with
laughter.
It's so though, considering,considering the, like, the depths of
the thirst of this fandom, althoughapparently I did, somebody who runs
the Buzzfeed TikTok account wentthat, um, Ryan and Oliver's reps kind
of vetoed a lot of the tweets, so

(35:31):
that's probably wise.
There's worse out there.
We got a couple of corkers though.
But anyway.
Um, back to season three.
Well, before we move off, um, before wemove away from Eddie, do we wanna talk
about like the Buck and Eddie of it?
Because I mean, listeners,you must know by now that

(35:54):
we are here for that.
Oh, we need the, the kitchen scene,the infamous super gay kitchen scene.
Oh yes.
Oh my God.
The kitchen scene, like evenOliver has come out recently.
And said, yes, the kitchenscene is super gay.
The other thing I find really interestingwas that, um, I think it was Oliver was
saying that Tim Minear wrote the kitchenscene and then took it to another male

(36:17):
writer and said, does this sound okay?
And the male writer went, well, Idon't talk to my friends like that.
And Tim's just gone, yeah, no, it's fine.
It'll be fine.
I'm sure it's normal.
So I know that when we were talkingabout that, we were going like, did
they write it thinking that thisis how like bros talk to each other
and it just, these two took it ina completely different direction.

(36:38):
It's like, no, it was alwaysintended to be like this.
I just don't think Tim Minear actuallyrealized what he was doing and
how it was going to be perceived.
Oh, I think he did.
Either that or Tim Minear's friends arevery confused by the way he talks to them.

(36:59):
But yeah, so we go from like "Buck,there's no one in this world that I trust
with my son more than you," to, uh, youknow, "Do you wanna go for the title?"
Um, no.
To, from, to arguing in the supermarket.
Oh yeah.
The, the, yeah.
Don't forget the arguingin the supermarket.
The separated fathers arguing over custodyand arrangements in the supermarket

(37:20):
to, do you wanna go for the title?
Oh.
I love them,
um, then we also get in "EddieBegins", Buck being treated like
a grieving partner and trying todig to Eddie with his bare hands.
Yeah.
The, the Oliver literally tryingto dig his way through the dirt.
Yeah.

(37:41):
With that same like, highpitched panic that we heard
when Christopher went missing.
Yeah.
And we also have to like honorary mentionto the blocking, um, for "Monsters".
They had Eddie and Buckliterally separated on camera
while they were still fighting.
Oh, yes.
Yeah.
That was amazing.

(38:02):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Great shot.
Yeah.
So much buddy in this season,
but not enough.
Never.
They'll
never be enough.
They could be balls deep in eachother and we're still sitting
there going, give us more.
Oh God, thanks.
Uh, Misha.
Um, but yes, it's true.
9-1-1 coming to HBO Max.

(38:27):
Oh no.
They'll run, they'll run it intothe ground on A B C and then A B
C will go, no, we're done with it.
And like Star will pick itup and go, oh, we'll take it.
Star, if you're unaware, is likethe more adult channel on Disney.
Oh, okay.
And has the, the more like MAand R rated stuff on there.

(38:48):
Right.
If you take the, the actual shippingaway from it that they have become
much better friends in this season.
I mean, they were before anyway, but like,that, I mean, I think they just spent so
much time together on shift and everythingthat there's, there's not much you can do
but be besties, I think in that situation.

(39:10):
Oh, we also had, um, Hen and Karen'sdiscussion with, like, "I invite Chim
Chim invites Maddie. Maddie invitesBuck. Buck invites Eddie." Yeah,
yeah, yeah.
I think the, uh, the, the closeness,the depth of the relationship with
Buck and Eddie is probably cemented bythe tsunami and the lengths at which

(39:32):
Buck went to keep Christopher safe.
Yeah.
And we know that like the way to Eddieis through Christopher, you Yeah.
Like you show Christopher love,Eddie's gonna fall for you.
So the way that Buck treats Chris isit's just Eddie can't help but have
that, that depth of relation, thatdepth of trust with Buck because

(39:56):
of the way he treats Christopher.
Yeah.
And they're so, like Buck and Christogether are just like sunshine.
They're so gorgeous.
Yes.
I think that's just Gavin, I think, Ithink Gavin is just, is so cute that
no matter who he's with, he's justgoing to, to um, to light up the scene.

(40:17):
Yeah.
I was looking through, thinking aboutall the different characters and thinking
about who was my favorite for thisseason and like, can I just pick Chris?
'cause he's just like, yes.
Every, every scene he's inis just like, so lovely.
So such fun.
You can pick Chris.
He's adorable.
And we get the, the skateboardingin this season as well.
Yeah.
Yeah.

(40:37):
Alright, who's next?
Should we talk about Henrietta?
Okay.
Hen and Karen had a lot of ups and downs.
This se, this season.
As predicted.
Apparently she was very hormonal,
not a lot, not a lot of upsand downs, but like some,
because we did have all of that,um, trying to conceive arc.

(40:59):
Poor Karen with her hormonal.
We had the
Karen high on hormones forthe first couple of episodes.
Oh yes.
And then we had the, um,losing of the, the embryos.
I'm not really sure how to describe that.
'cause it wasn't a miscarriagebecause she wasn't pregnant.
Yeah.

(41:19):
No, they just weren't viable.
The fertility treatments didn't work.
The pregnancies weren't, yeah.
And then Hen's reaction to that.
Like, not her finest hour.
Understandable, but not her finest hour.
Yeah.
And then it all sort of got swept underthe rug when Hen then went and had the
accident in which the cellist was killed.

(41:41):
Yes.
And then Karen immediately went, oh, youknow what, I'm not, I'm not upset anymore.
I need to look after you.
Yeah.
Because you're upset.
Only one character's allowed to havetrauma in a relationship at a time.
So.
Yeah.
It's Hen's turn for the traumas.
So Karen's not allowedto have trauma anymore.
Yeah.
Hen's got the trauma stick now.

(42:01):
Um,
trauma stick.
I'm sure it does happen like that though.
Like if you, if you a person, if youare having trouble with something and
then a person that you love is thenstruggling, you can snap out of it
and help them, like that's fine, but
oh hundred percent.
I don't think it's super healthy.
But,
but it's like we, we've discussed inthis previous episodes, um, this show has

(42:25):
this thing for giving characters traumaand then just dropping the trauma when
it's no longer serving the storyline.
Like we've had, we don't wannakeep lingering on the trauma.
We, you know, we're over the trauma.
You had the trauma.
Now just move on so we canget on with other storylines.
So it just, it felt like, yes, Ithink that you are correct in that
if this was in real life and you arestruggling with some deep emotions and

(42:48):
your spouse suddenly has an emergencysituation, you would like suck it up
and you would push down your emotionsso that you can help your spouse.
Um, just in the context of otherstorylines that we've seen on this
show, it just did not read very good.
No, it felt like she justgot better, you know?
Yes.
That doesn't happen really.

(43:10):
But the same as like, Hen justgot better after her trauma.
Yeah.
Well, I, I felt in a way Hen did, like,after that, her storyline did progress
in like a, a really positive way becausethen she doubted herself a lot and then
she over the next, I dunno, 10 episodesor however many were left after that.

(43:32):
Um, it was, it was quite a, a largeproportion of the season actually.
But then she just, then she becamea lot more confident and decided
that to go for her medical training,
it's like eight episodesbetween "Malfunction" and then,
uh, "The One That Got Away"

(43:53):
and, I mean, Chim played a big partin that because he kept reassuring
her that she was, you know, she,she could, was definitely competent
and she could get through this.
And then later telling her thatshe was brilliant and whatever.
Then, uh, he did get a bit soywhen he realized that this meant
that she might actually be leavinghim, but he was there for her.

(44:13):
I do
appreciate that they had thatstoryline where Hen caused Evelyn's
death and then doubted herselfand doubted confidence and um, and
appeared to kind of just brush it off.
But then when we got to "The OneThat Got Away" and we got, um, the
gentleman from the fire who later diedin hospital because the doctors didn't

(44:34):
listen to he, um, the writer for thatepisode, David Fury had a callback,
had Bobby say to him, it's say toHen, "It's not just Anton, you're
also still thinking about this otherpatient from like eight episodes ago."
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm
so kudos in that episode that theymanaged to tie this storyline about, I'm

(44:55):
sick of losing, I'm, I'm getting upsetthat I can't keep, I can't save people.
Um, and bringing back that storyline withEvelyn to forward Hen becoming a doctor.
Yeah.
I liked that they brought that backagain, even though it, um it meant
that Hen was once again doubtingherself or she wasn't doubting herself.

(45:15):
She was just doubtingthat other people couldn,
everybody else
couldn't do their jobs.
Yeah.
Yes.
It was like a pushing that that problemsonto them instead of being about her.
We had some great Chim and Henbestie-ism in this season, but we also
had the Chim and Karen bestie-ism.
Oh yeah.

(45:36):
Which was real cute.
Yes.
So like once again, we get the,the Hen cheating storyline.
But as Celticwitch said, I mean that'splausible plot line because of Hen's.
It's like Chim said, like she wouldnever cheat on you except for that one
time that she actually did cheat on you.
So like it's plausible that theywould keep bringing that back up.

(45:58):
But I will happily,
it's definitely realistic that
Realism?
In this show?.
Um.
Yeah, I will happily sit through acheating storyline if we get Drunk
Chim and Drunk Karen together Is Kennyand Tracy were amazing in that scene.
Yeah.
Love them.
They were, they were very funny.
Love them so much.

(46:19):
Betrayal!
But I mean, it does make, like, eventhough we were at the time, we were
sort of, like saying that, did we reallyneed this kind of storyline in there?
It does.
It is realistic in that, like,Karen's trust in Hen would've been
tried, I guess by the whole thing.
Yeah, absolutely.
And no matter how much they make upand say that they, they're not, she was

(46:42):
not gonna do it again, Karen's stillgonna have those doubts, but I think
the, the main thing that I had, um,reservations about was the fact that
they just, after they discovered thatit was the doctor who she was meeting
to talk about the MCATs, that was it.
Like there was no, noother resolution of that.

(47:03):
It was just like, oh, youweren't cheating after all.
Oh, well,
I feel like maybe there shouldhave been slightly more to that,
but maybe they didn't have roomin this season, and that's okay.
We can just pretend thatit happened outside of
Yeah.
I'd, I'd rather the, the Chimneyand Karen drunkenness than
like a drawn out conversation.

(47:25):
We can probably also, and I'm sure thatthe intention is we blame it a lot on
the amount of alcohol that Karen had had.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then we also, to sort of roundout the Hen and Karen storyline is
after they're, um, struggling toconceive, um, they decided to foster.

(47:49):
And so we started the, the Wilsonsas a foster family storyline.
Oh yeah.
With the adorable Nia.
And then they adopted Nia and then wenever saw her again in this season.
No.
We saw her once.
I don't think she wasin any other episode.
She, she was, she was in the camping one.
We got like a, a microsecond shotof her asleep on Michael's bed.

(48:14):
Oh, okay.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah.
But they did at least get her,but they keep mentioning her.
They were mentioning her, but
they did keep mentioning her.
Yes.
But she was so cute andwe barely got to see her.
She was adorable.
Well, hopefully she'll be, we'llsee more of her in the future.
Yeah, she was a very small actor.

(48:36):
I guess it's hard shooting with kids.
What's the adage?
Never work with kids or animals.
Yeah.
All right.
So we've mentioned Chim, do youwanna talk about his progression?
We, the main thing.
Okay.
So.
He and Maddie, obviously we cantalk about Maddie as well, but
she has her own things going on.

(48:56):
So I think one of the things we wereworried about with the end of season
two was that Maddie had been throughall that stuff with Doug and that we
were, she was sort of dealing with thetrauma a little bit, but we weren't sure
how soon they would kind of drop that.
But no, in this season she has gone onto struggle with it to start with and

(49:17):
um, you know, she went to see Frank andeverything and it did come back into
her like making her, uh, struggle evenwith her relationship with Chim in that
she was jumping to conclusions aboutthat 9-1-1 call that she went, decided
to go and stalk the lady and whatever,which created some tension with Chim.

(49:37):
Is it this season as well, whereChim, like drops a thing or Maddie
drops a thing and she like jumps and
Yeah, it was "Triggers".
She drops a plate and thenimmediately assumes, yeah.
Immediately goes into
and just leaves
fawning behavior.
But then when Chim tries toreassure her and he reaches out
to touch her, she flinches as ifshe assumes he's going to hit her.

(49:57):
So I think that was nicethat they brought that back.
And then it also, with her discussionwith Chimney, when he tells her
that he loves her and she says,look, I feel exactly the same.
I literally can't say the words toyou now because those words have been
tainted by how I used them as a shieldwith Doug, which then became really nice
seg uh, really nice sort of way to feedinto "The Taking of Dispatch 9-1-1",

(50:21):
where she uses those words as a...
Like, I've literally just told you thatI only say those words in bad situations
and now I'm saying them to you now.
Please understand why I am sayingthem to you and get my message.
Yeah, yeah.
It was a real, really, like, I reallyliked the way that they did that.
Like super obvious, butalso really realistic.

(50:42):
Like, you know, words do losecertain meanings like that.
I mean, there's no, there'sno telling how trauma is gonna
manifest for you if you, you can gettriggered by just about anything.
But yeah, I was glad that they didn't justcompletely drop that and it came back.
And she also had the, uh, the scene withFrank where he took her back to Big Bear.

(51:05):
Oh yeah.
Managed to find a wormhole.
So it did, it took less than12 hours to get there for him.
I know.
Amazing.
So that she could confront Doug.
They get there, it's like, what do youmean it's half an hour out of the city?
What the fuck?
And she shouted into the woods atsome ghosts for a little bit and

(51:26):
then she was felt a lot better.
Which is interesting.
'cause normally she whispers at ghosts.
Yeah.
I guess Doug needed some shouting.
Yeah.
Speaking of Maddie, whatsong did I realize that she
"Bare Naked".
Yeah, I was like, what?

(51:46):
She sings that, like I knew she was asinger, but I didn't think that she'd
actually like sung anything I knew
um, it's, it's one fromlike the early thousands.
I was just, I, um, Alice wastalking about it and I'm like,
I don't remember that song.
And I started playing it and immediatelygot triggered like a sleeper agent

(52:07):
and knew all of the words like.
Okay.
Maybe I do actually know this song,
Bex was literally Bucky in, um, winterSoldier where they say the code words.
Yes.
Um, "Bare Naked" startedand she like turned.
It's just, it like started.
It's amazing though, when you do,when they put it, when a song comes
on and the music starts and themelody starts and just a part of

(52:29):
your brain gets unlocked and you'relike, I know all of these words.
I know this choreography.
Yeah.
Like, so.
Yes.
Because yeah, like she's one ofthose actors that like I grew up
with because she's always beenaround since I've been a kid.
Yeah.
And yeah, so it's just like,oh, she did that as well.
Like, I knew she was everywhere,but she was literally everywhere.

(52:52):
She was big in Japan.
She, she was huge in Japan
and Australia apparently.
But yeah, no, go like, listen to "BareNaked" now and you'll remember it,
I'm sure.
Yes.
Yeah.
But yeah.
Crazy.
I'm not gonna sing it because No,
that's okay.

(53:12):
You don't need to.
But yeah, she was huge in Japan.
I mean, we've sort of hijackedChimney's chat to go onto
Maddie, but, um, Maddie did,
but his storyline was a lot about Maddie.
Yeah.
I mean, he didn't really havethat much stuff of his own.
I mean, he had Albert show up.

(53:34):
Yeah.
Like, see, his, his storyline was a lotabout his relationship with other people.
So it was him and Maddie, and thenhim and Albert, and then via virtue of
Albert, his relationship with his father.
Mm.
Yeah.
Um, that was a very smallpart of this season though.
And the um, and therelationship with the Lees.

(53:56):
Yeah.
We got to see the Lees meet Maddie and.
Yeah, which was, Maddie got very, um,nervous about it because she said she
was literally meeting Chim's parents.
Yeah, yeah.
It was nice that we'd sortof seen "Chimney Begins"
before that, so that we knew.
I mean, that was theprevious season, I guess, but

(54:18):
yeah,
it was good to get theLees back for that episode.
Yeah.
But then we also had Chim sort of reactingto Maddie's trauma and how is, how does
he deal with the fact that his, um, hisgirlfriend is sort of, has got a trigger
point and he has to be almost working ineggshells around her and then she goes

(54:41):
off the rails with Tara and Vincent.
That 9-1-1 call that shetook that, um, triggered her.
Yeah, that whole...
Maddie really went through it this season.
She, she really did.
So she gets over all that,then she gets taken hostage.
Yeah.
That not only did she gothrough the trauma of, um.
Vincent's like getting shot and stuff.

(55:03):
But then, then she goes into the hostagesituation and gets traumatized by that.
Oh.
Oh.
But she kicked ass in that.
That's a lot.
I think that that was a, that was likea very positive storyline for Maddie.
'cause has, it's traumatizing.
But she, she was, she kind of tookcontrol in that one in the end.

(55:24):
Yep.
I love Maddie so much.
Now she's gonna have a baby.
Anything else about Chimney and Maddie?
We got to see them working togetherto save that lady who got pinned in
that, in, in the "Pinned episode".
That was very Yeah.
And discovered that both, both of themhave a competency kink because they got
completely turned on by how, um, howgood the other one was at their job.

(55:48):
Yes.
And Chimney, Chimney Han's blood kink.
Oh yeah.
That was the same episode
Chimney
Han's blood kink.
And then we get bonusshirtless Kenneth Choi.
So that's always, um, always fun.
Yes.
What a good episode.
10 Outta 10.
Honestly,
no complaints about episode.
Is that your favorite?

(56:08):
Which one was that?
Might have to be
"Pinned"?
That was "Pinned".
Was, hang on.
Was was Buck shirtlessin this season at all?
He wasn't, was he?
Unfortunately, no.
Uh, no.
Not even the tsunami.
So it's going to have to be "Pinned" then.
No, but we have some,
oh, no, Ryan is, so
he had a wet shirt on.
Bex has some, um, oh, he did havea wet shirt on in the tsunami.

(56:31):
I feel like we have to cut the tsunamiout of the favorite episodes talk, because
otherwise it's just like, that's notthick because this, it's such a good arc.
All right, let's, let's finish offthe last couple of characters and
then we can talk specific episodes.
Yeah, let's keep going with characters.
Yeah.
So we've done Chimney, met his brother,
keep thirsting to the minimum.

(56:52):
Then, I dunno what I'mgonna say in this episode.
Okay.
Um, we've done, we are done with Chim.
Yeah?
Yeah.
I'm never done with Chim.
He doesn't like, I mean, I love him.
He's got some absolutely amazing, uh,I mean, comic relief basically in this
season because he doesn't have a lot ofstorylines that are just his, most of them

(57:16):
are relating to other people, as you said.
Oh, Chimney and the crows!
Yeah.
Chimney and the crows.
Chimney and the crows!
But Chim being the comicrelief is just great.
The crows amazing.
He had some amazing one-liners
Chimney has been through enough horrors.
Give him less horrors just for a minute.
Yeah.
Okay.
Who's left?
We've got Michael and Athena.

(57:38):
We've got Michael together.
Michael,
did we actually go into Bobby?
No, we didn't.
Well, Bobby really go into Bobbyexcept to say that like he got
turned into the incredible Hulkfor one episode and then didn't.
He was otherwise, he was just therebeing supportive dad to everybody.
He was supportive Dad, um,
like getting pissed off at Buck.
We did, we did find outthat he was a figure skater.
We found out he was a figure skater.

(57:59):
We found out he went tocamp and he can yodel.
Um, yep.
That's, that's pretty much it.
But yeah, he was very much like, yeah.
The support of everyone this season,
especially Michael.
I think he had, he and Michaelhad very close ties in this
episode, in this season.
They did a lot of bonding.

(58:20):
Yeah.
Bobby and Michael bestie-ism
yes.
What would Bobby and Michael ship name be?
Bichael?
Is anybody shipping them or are theyjust like the epitome of like bros?
This is the internet.
Surely people are shipping them.
Oh, I'm sure that they are.
But I just, I love their bestie-ism.

(58:41):
I love their bestie-ism they're great.
They're actually the strongmale friendship of the show.
Um, yes.
Not like Buck and Eddie whoare no terrible besties and
great as a relationship.
Why is archive of myown not logging me in?
I'm sorry we boring you that badlythat you're looking up fan fiction?

(59:04):
No, I'm trying to find out ifthere's Michael and Bobby fan
fiction and it just won't log me in.
Okay.
Oh, don't go there.
Don't go to that place.
So, so Michael,
the shadowy place,
Michael went through it this season.
He definitely went,
oh, Michael definitely wentthrough it this season.
So the poor dude had a brain tumorfor pretty much the entire season,

(59:27):
which turned him to a sassy littlebitch whenever they had, um, whenever
they're entertaining the masses.
Um,
I mean, yeah, there was that.
But also he, he started out by likewalking kind of drunkenly through
a shopping center and then walkingthrough a wall, like a glass window.
But then after that, he seemedquite lucid the whole time.

(59:47):
Like he, apart from the, the factthat he turned up in Athena's
bed, um, after that he was fine.
He used it as an excuse a lot
yeah, once they knewwhat it was, it was fine,
I'm gonna assume that he was on copiousamounts of medication, so like up to
Christmas he says he wasn't sleeping,he was having the sleep walking,

(01:00:07):
which is like sleep disruption.
So I'm assuming that once he startedthe medication for the tumors,
they probably gave him somethingthat knocked him out at night.
So he was actually sleeping, which mighthave helped the headaches a little bit and
the, you know, waking up in Athena's bed.
But they didn't actuallygo into it that much.
No, they, all we had from him was,I mean, he's not, I don't wanna say

(01:00:30):
he's not a main character 'cause heis in it quite a lot to be a main
character, but, um, we only getlittle snippets of what he was up to.
Like, we didn't see him.
Yeah.
A lot.
Except in the episode, likeright at the start where he got,
where they had the traumatic...
The "Rage" episode
the traffic stop.
Yeah,
Yeah.
That incredibly difficult scenewhere we saw him try to teach Harry

(01:00:54):
what it means to be a Black manin America and how as a Black man,
he needs to change his behavior,which was very difficult to watch.
Yeah.
But then he gets the treatments for thebrain tumor work and he ends up at the

(01:01:14):
end of the episode with a boyfriend.
A new boyfriend, yeah.
Or at least dating someone,going out on dates.
Yeah, that's good.
Because he really needs to like stop goingover to Athena and Bobby's all the time.
He seems to just be there all of the time.
He, yeah.

(01:01:36):
Yes.
Well his,
which is fine
his wife and his bestie were there, so,
yeah.
And he was single and you know, he didn'thave anything else to do, but you know,
he needs some hobbies of his own
hobbies that don't includedestroying Athena's fire pit.
Oh God, yes.
I mean, Bobby was allfor that, to be honest.

(01:01:57):
Like he was, he was likeon board completely.
He had some, some issues to work out.
So, yeah,
because that was, he just listenedto his wife get assaulted over
on open radio for reasons.
Yeah.
Oh gosh.
For drama.
Nothing but the drama.
So yeah, he needed something to take his,um, his anger and his frustration out on.

(01:02:22):
So why not a pile of bricks?
Yeah, I mean, like we say that Bobbydidn't have much this season, but
he, he really went through it too.
He went through it becauseeveryone else went through it.
You can't, you can't be a supportperson for everybody without getting
some trauma of your own, I guess.
Right.
It's like when, um, at the end of season,the season three finale where Buck is

(01:02:47):
proposing something stupid and Bobby says,I can't be sitting by another bedside.
'cause pretty much that's allhe's done all season is like
sit by people's bedsides.
He's, he's reached the end of his coping,
which then kind of leads intoAthena's storyline for this.
So she also went throughit quite a bit this season.

(01:03:12):
She very much went through it this season.
Yeah.
A lot of old, old paincome up for her, right?
Yeah.
She wasn't directly involved inthe traffic stop, but she had to
witness after the fact and did, andhave to confront after the fact that
her family had gone through this.

(01:03:33):
And then we get "Athena Begins".
Yeah.
Amazing episode.
I think we also met
really well done.
We also met the Carters this season forthe first time, which is Athena's parents.
Was that this season?
Uh, I think we
was that this season?
Didn't we have.
We saw her, I think we saw her mom inat least in, or maybe her dad as well.

(01:03:55):
I can't remember.
No, I, I'm pretty sure that was inseason two when, when we first met them.
Uh, probably, like I said, it's hard to,it's hard to separate them sometimes,
but it, I know we had her come back thisseason 'cause Bobby redeemed himself
by calling Beatrice in "Athena Begins".

(01:04:15):
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, it's the second season that we meet.
Okay.
Um, and then once if going through atraumatic traffic stop and then having
to revisit the trauma of your, uh, fiancedying wasn't enough, then we have the, uh,
the realtor rapist storyline and Athena.

(01:04:37):
Having the, the crap kicked out,kick kicked and hit out of her.
You're like literally going through it by
Yes.
Being beaten within an inch of her life.
Bless her.
Yes.
And having her husband hear all of that.
And then the, the line where shethought that she was dying because
Bobby thought she was dying.

(01:04:58):
Like she was fine until she saw Bobby.
And then when she saw Bobby'sface, she's like, shit, maybe I'm
in worse shape than I thought.
Ugh.
Well, I mean, she like has comeout of that with severely doubting
her own abilities to do her job.
So maybe she's gone in like a, a reversegrowth direction where she started out

(01:05:18):
being very, um, I mean sure of herself andlike going to go in there and do what she
can no matter if she's got backup or not.
And then it's turned out badlyand now she feels like she is not
trusting her own abilities anymore.
Well, I think she saysthat to Brooke Shields.

(01:05:42):
She's like, I'm, I'm double, I'm doubleguessing myself, and I can't be out on
the streets if I'm second guessing myself.
Yeah.
Mm.
You know, I need to beable to follow my gut.
And we even saw at the, at May'sgraduation party, like Bobby comes up
behind her and scares the crap out of her.
Yeah.
Like, not intentionally.
That's just how reactiveshe is at the moment.

(01:06:05):
I look forward to seeing whathappens with that in the next season.
I know there's, I knowthere's some coming.
She says, as though shehasn't already seen.
I have.
Yeah.
Well,
I'm sure there's more, more of it coming.
Wow.
I hope Athena's in the next season.
Um,
okay.
Before we get on to, um, sort ofdiscussing the, the highs and lows in

(01:06:29):
specific episodes, we did get some,um, comments from, if not listeners
of the show, people who have watched9-1-1 and they shared their thoughts
about season three, sort of as a whole.
So maybe now would be a good time to sharesome of those comments that we received.
Sure,
yeah.
Friends of the show,

(01:06:50):
or at least friends offriends of the show.
They're not, if they're notactually listening to the
show, they're friends of us.
Yeah.
Um, yeah, so we got a good review of, uh,season three from our good friend Nanna T,
Yay.
Thanks Nanna.
Um, who actually managed to bingethrough the entirety of 9-1-1, I think,

(01:07:14):
while we were doing season three.
Uh, so she's now catchingup on the podcast slowly.
But yeah, so once she was, like,once she finished season three,
she sent through the review.
So she says, as much as I thoughtthe tsunami episodes were a bit over
the top, they were still compelling.
And I liked the dynamicbetween Christopher and Buck.
It felt like the whole thing was asetup to show Buck in a hero role,

(01:07:35):
but ultimately became a showcasefor his self-esteem issues, which
coming from Supernatural fandomis something we are familiar with.
And then in brackets, Dean Winchester,I wasn't a fan of Lena as a character,
but I don't like Rhonda Rousey,and I'm not a fan of fight sports.
In Gen General.
Again, it felt like her character wasonly there to transition Eddie into his
unhealthy co coping mechanism arc. Again,Dean Winchester, anyone My favorite

(01:08:01):
side character would have to be Josh.
Why are all the sassy gaysidekicks always called Josh?
Uh, apparently in the originals there'sa sassy gay sidekick called Josh.
Um.
Buck's lawsuit was telegraphedfrom the moment the lawyer was
introduced and it felt inevitable.
I felt that the hurt theteam felt was underplayed.
And I know if it was me, Iwould have left him in the cold

(01:08:21):
for much longer than he was.
Uh, Maddie's domestic violencearc was personal, uh, in both
season two and season three forme, and touched some nerves.
I was devastated for her, and I couldsee how her personal experiences
led her to the sto to stalking hercaller and befriending her under
the guise of trying to protect her.
Doing the wrong thing for the rightreason is never going to work out well.

(01:08:43):
Worst episode was "Monsters".
The crows and the guy in the windshieldjust felt like a gag that went too far.
Best episode was "TheTaking of Dispatch 9-1-1".
I loved that it was focused on the callcenter and not on the firehouse team.
I really wanted Josh to have his revengeon the a on his asshole catfish attacker.
I would also like to say that thecliffhanger at the end of "Powerless"

(01:09:04):
was a close second, just that last fewminutes because it was a good surprise.
I was in the pro Abby camp.
I didn't like that she left soabruptly, but I could see why she did,
who doesn't love a dramatic return?
However, I did think the reveal ofher fiance to Buck was a bit cruel.
Buck's "They always leave me" history,but at least he got some closure.

(01:09:24):
Wow.
Great comment.
Thanks Nana.
Yeah, thank you so much, Nana.
When you get here, there'sa lot there eventually.
Yeah.
When you, when you eventuallylisten to this episode.
Uh, yeah.
We didn't mention Josh before.
Josh was great in this season.
Like he had a lot of small, I don'tknow, storylines, I guess that added

(01:09:45):
up to just a lot of fun and, anda lot of trauma for him too, like
being beaten up by his date and likeall those things were pretty awful.
But he got his own back again.
That was so.
Again, that was one of those storylinesthat it's, it looked like just in
an isolated storyline, but actuallyended up being one of those much

(01:10:06):
longer threads, because it wasn't justJosh being catfished and assaulted.
It was, that was the setup for"The Taking of Dispatch 9-1-1".
Yeah.
Which then that continued through thenext couple of episodes to finally
resolve itself in "Powerless".
Love it when they do that.
All right.
Um, actual friend of the podcast,Keira, who we've mentioned before,

(01:10:30):
because she, um, pretty regularlyresponds, um, over on Blue Sky.
We love you, Keira!
We do, we love the fact that,
thank you Keira!
You continually answer our questionsand educate us about the, the
whole American stuff that we justdon't understand being Australians.
Um.

(01:10:51):
So here are her commentsabout season three.
Uh, she says, I'd forgotten how many hugemoments slash arcs were in season three
until I was listening to the podcast.
We get the tsunami, lawsuit, fight clubEddie, Buddie Kitchen Scene, Athena
Begins, Michael's brain tumor, dispatchtakeover, Eddie Begins, Athena versus

(01:11:11):
Serial Rapist and that character, incase Ellen hasn't watched the finale yet,
making a reappearance, which was Abby.
All in one season.
Um, as far as favorite moments, I'veforgotten how much I enjoyed "Athena
Begins" until listening to the episode.
So I definitely need togo watch that one again.
I love "Eddie Begins" As muchas that episode triggers my

(01:11:33):
claustrophobia and stresses thefuck out of me, it hurts so good.
But I think the tsunamiarc just can't be topped.
And the actual tsunami threat to LA thathappened the same week as that episode
was something you just can't make up.
I completely
That's right.
Forgot that we summoned a tsunami.
I had forgotten about that as well.
We were so deep in how do weget word of this podcast out?

(01:11:55):
I know.
Let's summon an actual like geologicalevent to coincide with our discussion
of a fictional geological event.
Yeah, there's some comments here liketalking us up, saying how much she
loves the podcast, which is great.
Um.
I will say that there is a PS at theend of the comments, which is the number

(01:12:17):
of times I now say for the drama in myeveryday life is a little unreasonable,
but it makes me laugh every time.
Yay.
I've started saying it too,like at work the other day.
I said something about for thedrama and I was like, oh God.
Um, I really need to upload thosestickers that we were thinking of doing.
Yes.
You know, it's like a, you know, we

(01:12:38):
totally put it on, on Red Bubble.
We make jokes about when we're watchingepisodes, we're gonna take a shot every
time someone says the episode title.
I think that if someone were toturn our podcast into a drinking
game, like take a shot, everyonesays for the drama, um, they'd be
like, out from alcohol poisoning.
I mean, it's a very dramatic show.
Okay?
Yes, we we do have a for the dramasticker, um, which if you twist

(01:13:04):
our arm, we may make available.
I want one.
I will upload it beforethis episode airs possibly.
Ooh, yay.
Uh, so, uh, thank youKeira for your comments.
Um, thank you.
We love you.
We appreciate, we do love you.

(01:13:24):
Okay, so we have a message from Beckett.
Thank you very much, Beckett.
Um, who says, uh, I think theChristopher arc in the tsunami is
really compelling and a theme I don'tfeel like is explored very often.
My best friend has a three-year-oldboy, and I'm super present in his
life and have him alone all the time.

(01:13:45):
Something happening to him onmy watch is my biggest fear.
I would be beside myself withguilt just like Buck was.
We see a lot on TV of parents blamingthe person they left their child with
and I don't think it's always realistic.
So it was incredibly refreshing tosee a story focusing on Buck's grief.
His efforts defined him, his willingnessto take responsibility for something that
wasn't his fault, and then Eddie groundinghim and saying, Hey, he loves you.

(01:14:09):
I trust you implicitly.
None of this is your fault, and you dideverything you could to keep him safe.
It was an incredible moment for theirrelationship and for solidifying Buck.
Eddie and Chris as a unit.
So related, what are you guys'favorite similar family bonding arcs
or moments from the Buckley-Diazsor another 9-1-1 family dynamic?

(01:14:34):
Great question.
Great question.
Also a really good commentbecause he's right, like we don't
see that side of it very often.
Like there's a lot of blaming friendsand like severing the relationship
whereas this strengthens it.
Yeah.
I mean, in a way I feel like ifit, if it had had a bad outcome

(01:14:55):
in the end, it probably would've,may have gone a different way.
But because Chris was fine and itall turned out okay, I don't know.
I dunno if their relationshipwould've survived very well
if, if it had all gone badly.
Mm-hmm.
But thank goodness that did not happen.
But as we said, 9-1-1 doesn'thurt children, so nothing would

(01:15:16):
definitely happen to Chris.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chris was always destined to be fine.
Uh, bonding moments.
Um, I think the first one thatcame to mind for me, and it's
the one that I'm gonna go with isMaddie and Buck's pinky promise.

(01:15:36):
At the end of the one that got awaywhere Buck is like pouring his heart
out to Maddie in the entire episode he'stalking about Maddie leaving him and he's
always the one that gets left behind.
And Maddie promises him thatshe will never leave him behind.
He will always have her and theypinky promise over his kitchen table.
Oh, that's really sweet.

(01:15:56):
Yeah.
And that may be just becausethat's like one of the last,
it's one of the last episodes.
So it's the freshest in my mind.
But I could think of lots of theBuckley, I could think of lots of Buckley
Diaz moments throughout the season.
But I think that Buckleysibling moment is probably the
strongest and it's my favorite.
Yeah.
I love the Buckley siblings.

(01:16:17):
They're great.
Um, I was gonna say, like goingwith the Buckley Diaz is, uh, is the
skateboard moment in this season.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Um, 'cause Eddie just has sucha shit time, that whole episode.
And Buck turns it around forboth him and Christopher.
Once again, buck gets, does allthe research, does all the work.

(01:16:40):
Oh, he knew exactly what he needed.
He always does though.
All right.
What about you, Ellen?
Did you, did you have ananswer for Beckett's question?
I agree with all of the ones that you'vesaid, but also I, I do enjoy I, I like
the fact that Bobby and Athena and theirkid, well, and Athena and Michael's kids,

(01:17:03):
um, have their family dinners together andthey, and like Michael's included as well.
Like, I know that we, I joke about Michaelalways being there all of the time, but
it's kind of, it's really nice to seethat at least Athena has gotten over
her feelings of betrayal of him, youknow, leaving her and, um, just included

(01:17:25):
him back in the family when they werehaving their family dinners and moments.
So that's, that feels very wholesome
Like that um, family dinnerwhere both Bobby and Michael are
interrogating May's boyfriend.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I, it is, he does definitelyhang around there, probably more than he

(01:17:50):
should, but it is, no, I mean, Michael,not, not not, um, what's the kid's name?
I forgot his name.
Darius.
That's right.
I should remember that.
Um,
but yeah, it is, it is wholesometo know that he's, he's still
considered part of their family eventhough they've kind of separated.

(01:18:10):
Alright.
Let's get into the, theyearbook categories.
So, favorite episode from season threeand apparently we're excluding the tsunami
arc, which I think is unfair, but, okay.
Because I was gonna be incredibly basicand say that yes, my favorite episode
was "Sink or Swim" and "The Searchers".
But I will like
Exactly, yeah.

(01:18:30):
I will go back and I willfind another favorite.
We'll take that as, um,we'll take that as read.
It was like,
take that as given?
An amazing Yeah.
Amazingly produced and, uh, acted andyeah, the storyline was incredible.
So, yeah.
Anything else we wanna gushabout the tsunami before we

(01:18:51):
find a different episode to like
wet t-shirt, Oliver Stark?
No,it's not a just wet t-shirt.
It's like wet T-shirt, dirtyand bloody Oliver Stark.
So it's like a trifecta.

(01:19:11):
Okay, moving on.
Um,
I really liked "TheTaking of Dispatch 9-1-1".
I thought that was a great episode.
It was terrifying, but it hadthe right amount of terror and
badass kind of ass kicking fromthe, um, from the dispatchers.
And I mean, they, they basicallysaved themselves in the end by

(01:19:35):
like annoying the bad guys into,you know, losing their minds.
And then the actual SWAT team came inafter they'd like, you know, taken over.
So, I don't know, it kind ofmade a moot point in the end.
But yeah, I really enjoyed that episode.
Yeah, me too.
It's, I don't wanna say the sameone, so I'm trying to work out what,

(01:19:59):
sorry, did I just takeeveryone's favorite then?
No, no.
We're allowed to agree.
I really liked "Fallout" whenI first watched "Fallout".
I didn't like the second watch through asmuch, but I remember "Fallout" being one
of my favorites when I first watched it.
Yeah.
Which is the one with themeteor shower going through the

(01:20:19):
woman and then the radioactive
Oh, the truck.
Yep.
In the tunnel.
Like when I first watched that, it was sotense, even though like I knew that Bobby
would survive 'cause I knew he was in thelater seasons, I was still so like tense.
And then the second time I watched it Iwas like, oh, this is kind of boring now.

(01:20:41):
Like, I don't know.
I was really disappointedthe second time I watched it.
'cause the first time Iremember it just being so tense.
Yeah.
Okay.
But you knew what wasgonna happen, so you were
Yeah, like I, whereas like thetsunami, even though I knew what
was gonna happen, it was stilltense the second time I watched.
Yeah.
So I guess probably "Eddie Begins",if not "Taking of Dispatch 9-1-1".

(01:21:04):
Oh, actually maybe "Pinned".
Yeah?
Uh, I like, so I like Chimneyand Maddie's bits of "Pinned".
I don't so much like the rest of "Pinned"'cause the rest of it's just like the
bowling alley thing and the camping trip.
So I am gonna cheat and saythe Chimney and Maddy parts of
Pinned and all of "Eddie Begins".

(01:21:25):
Yeah.
Yep.
I think "Eddie Begins" wasa very well made episode.
Like the, the flashbacks were great.
Like it was a difficult episode towatch in a lot of ways, partly from
their sad parts and, and the, Imean, the claustrophobia and just the
terrifying being trapped underground,

(01:21:47):
the poor kid.
Like again, that was one that I knew whatwas gonna happen, but it was still tense.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I mean, that's why itwas such a great episode.
Partially because like it was so, yeah.
So tense.
Bex, which one have you got?
I'm still checking.

(01:22:09):
I'm trying to find theshirtless Eddie one.
Okay.
If I can't say,
if I can't say "Sink or Swim" or "TheSearchers", um, I would have to say
that I really, I quite like "Rage".

(01:22:30):
Yeah.
Despite how difficult, maybebecause of how difficult it was
to watch it, was it very much,it was a very impactful episode.
Um, a very eye-opening episode as faras Michael and Athena's storyline goes.
Um, but I quite enjoyed, and Ithink anyone who has listened to

(01:22:52):
the season three episodes wouldknow this, I quite liked Lena.
I quite enjoyed her storylinesand I, I really liked the, um,
the illegal fight club storylines,not just because, um, we got to,
I bet you did.
Oh, a shirt listened bloody,um, Eddie for a lot of it.
Um,

(01:23:14):
I think "Rage" was a good episodewith lots of good, strong storylines.
'cause we had everyone being pissedoff at Buck because of the, the lawsuit
arc. And we had the supermarket sceneand we had the illegal fight club.
Um,
oh, that's right.
The supermarket scene in Rage, isn't it?
Yeah.
Yeah.

(01:23:35):
So I think that's, that's one of theepisodes that sort of now that I'm
sort of thinking about it, it's notone that immediately jumps out as like,
oh, yes, that's one of my favorites.
But it, if I'm sitting down to watchit and I get into it, like, oh yeah,
I really enjoy watching this episode.
So yeah, final answer locking it in.
I'm gonna say that if I can't have thetsunami I that I'm gonna have "Rage"

(01:23:57):
as my favorite for season three.
Nice.
Good choice.
All right.
What about least favorite?
Do we wanna go there?
Well, I don't know if we can go there.
I would be interested to knowif anybody could go there.
'cause I, um, like I said, like I said atthe beginning of, of this episode, I don't
think I can, yeah, there are episodes thatI don't like aspects of them, but there'll

(01:24:22):
be other parts of them that I do enjoy.
So it kind of balances it out.
I think my least favoriteit Oh no, that because.
I had it at the start of theepisode, and then I was going
through and I was like, no, becauseI really like the start of that.
I was gonna say "Seize the Day", but thenI remembered that that's the one with
Buck and Eddie on top of the fire engine.

(01:24:42):
And I'm like, okay, it'snot "Seize the Day".
Oh, yeah.
Um, because that's the one withthe, the assistant, like where
the assistant does the lunch run.
Yes.
And it's the whole like note thing.
Oh yeah,
yeah.
I hated that.
And so I was like, oh yeah.
And then like it has like abankrupt, injured home repossession,
but I love the start of it.
Yeah.

(01:25:03):
And like the Athena part is good as well.
Yeah.
So there's no, like,
I just hate that one.
Like Yeah.
But I don't, but I think that'swhy season three is so strong is
there's no, like one episode thatsticks out as absolute stinker.
There are emergencies within episodesor storylines within episodes.
Like I hated the whole Tara and Vincentstory arc, but they were embedded

(01:25:27):
in enough episodes where enough.
Other good stuff happened that I'mstill happy to watch those episodes.
Hmm.
Like, so for me, season three, the,it's not my least favorite, but it's the
one that I'll skip if I'm trying to getthrough the season faster would be "Athena
Begins" just because it doesn't, it'snot really included in that story arc.

(01:25:48):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Once you've watched it,you know what happens.
Yeah.
I don't hate it.
I don't think it's a bad episode.
It's just not one that Ifeel the need to rewatch.
Yeah.
What about, "What'sNext?" Like the finale?
We didn't like the,
It's not the worst finale?

(01:26:09):
We didn't really like theway that it was put together.
My, my love, my love for Abbykind of over overrides how
terrible I think the episode is.
Like I will.
I will yell and scream at how much, howwasted Connie Britton is in that episode.
And, but I will still watch itjust because Abby is still there.

(01:26:31):
Yeah, right.
I'll watch it.
Just for the "Abby, his fiance's Abby,"
his fiance's Abby.
Yeah.
I didn't particularly like, I thinkmy least possibly favorite, um, was
"Powerless" just because the powerlesswas beating us over the head, but mm-hmm.

(01:26:55):
As we said, that episode didhave like drunk Karen and Chim
in it, so, which was great.
So, I don't know, the rest of that episodewas kind of, is that that annoying?
Oh, it is too, yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Far out.
So we had Athena getting beatenup and then drunk Chim and Karen.

(01:27:18):
Yeah.
Yeah, because Karen's getting,getting drunk instead of going
to the hospital To visit Athena.
To visit Athena.
Yeah.
That was after, remember, that wasthe one that just kept not ending?
Like we got to part of it.
Yeah.
Like this feels like it shouldbe the end, but it's not.
Yeah.
That was, that was theReturn of the King of 9-1-1.
But wait, there's more!
51 million endings.

(01:27:40):
Yeah.
Anyway, yes, there were elementsof probably every episode that
were not great, but overall,because everything wove together.
Yeah.
There's no one episode that we can saythat we didn't definitively didn't like.
Yeah.
Right.
So well done 9-1-1 for making itdifficult for us to like season three

(01:28:02):
did not have a "Karma's a Bitch".
So kudos to you.
I didn't hate "Karma's a Bitch".
It was very thematically overwhelming,but it was, it had some funny stuff in it.
Was that the one with, um,oh my god, what's her name?
The bitchy dispatch lady?

(01:28:22):
No, that was, um, "Awful People".
Awful.
Yeah, people.
Yeah.
That was bad.
Awful.
Which is another one that I thinkwe like unanimously said, that was
the worst episode of that season,
but yeah, no, season three.
It's really good.
It's a strong season.
I was not wrong when I said I wasexcited for Ellen to get to season three.

(01:28:42):
'cause it's a strong season.
It's really good.
Yes.
Oh my god.
"Karma's a Bitch" was in season one.
God,
that's Oh wow.
Okay,
fine.
I know.
It seems so long ago.
Okay.
Um, moving on to favorite character.
So I did not go back and checkwho we all said was our favorite

(01:29:05):
character from season two.
Um, so I can't tell you whetheranyone has changed their minds.
I'm pretty sure I know Alice Alice'sfavorite character was Maddie.
I'm pretty sure that hasn't changed.
Oh yeah.
Mine's still, um, the Buckleysand Chim like a hundred percent
Maddie, Buck and Chimney.

(01:29:27):
Actually, speaking of Chimney, I,this is slightly a segue, but I, I
mean a tangent, but I just rememberedwhat I was going to bring up.
I actually saw a theory about whyChimney's name's Chimney that makes sense.
And I kind of hate it.
Oh, okay.
And I'm mad becauseit's now my head canon.

(01:29:48):
Don't wanna hear it then.
I don't wanna hear it then.
Yeah, no, don't tell us.
I'm happy to not share itif you don't wanna know.
Yeah, no,
I don't wanna know, butI'm like, let me live in.
Let me live in blissful ignorance.
Okay, so Ellen, apparently, so seasonone, apparently you said that you

(01:30:10):
loved Chim, but you also loved Hen.
Um, and then season two you were the same.
You loved Chim.
Okay.
I mean, I still love Chim, but hedidn't have like, he had some great
like one-liner pop culture kind ofreferences in this one, although
not, possibly not as many as previousseasons now that I think about it.

(01:30:33):
But I was sort of thinking about all thedifferent characters earlier and I'm like,
I dunno if I can choose just one thathad like, I, I really enjoyed like Buck's
epi, like characterization this season.
But I mean, even he didn't have, apartfrom the first few episodes, didn't
have heaps of like main storylines.

(01:30:55):
Yeah, it's okay if you can't pick one.
I mean,
oh, I just, I, I, I don't evenhave one that's my least favorite.
I think everyone did such agreat job during this season.
They were like, they were all amazing.
No, that's cool.
I mean, it's, it's a question thatwe can throw out there sometimes.
We're probably gonna haveanswers, sometimes we're not.

(01:31:16):
I'm sure that it's gonna comeas a surprise to absolutely no
one when I say that, Eddie wasprobably my favorite character,
and I think we could probably cut.
What?
No, I never saw that one coming.
Wow.
I think we could probably like cut andpaste that for like, every single wrap
up from like here to Kingdom Come.
Always gonna say that it's Eddie.

(01:31:36):
Eddie was pretty great this season.
Yes.
Okay.
So you touched on is there a,that you couldn't pick a least
favorite character for this season.
Um, Alice, do you have a characterthat sticks out for season three that
you like, they come up on screen andyou're like, Ugh, not this guy again.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
Um, that is Michael's brain tumor.

(01:31:57):
Um, really could do lessof Michael's brain tumor.
Screw that guy.
And his tumor-ness.
Um, oh, besides fucking, what's his name?
Greg?
Yes.
Yeah.
Josh's.
Yeah.
Which I don't think counts.
I thought he was likea great bad guy though.
Like I some of the otherguys in that heist thing.

(01:32:20):
Um,
oh, Voldemort.
were pretty shitty, yeah.
We don't want them.
Fucking Voldemort.
Um, the manager of the Amazonesque packing warehouse.
Ah, are we?
Okay.
So are we gonna do like aleast favorite emergency?
Because I think that onewas my least favorite.

(01:32:40):
We like when he pees on the robot,
we'll do favorite emergencies.
Um, I don't think I have a real leastfavorite, like, of the main characters.
I definitely don't have a least favorite.
Yeah, there wasn't a particularsort of villain of this season.
Like I remember from sort of seasontwo, I think we were unanimous
that we hated Gerrard, um,

(01:33:01):
oh yeah.
Oh my God, Gerrard,
I don't think, I don't think therewas a Gerrard of season three.
No, we didn't have any.
Which is fine.
Actual antagonist.
Yeah.
Thank God.
Just individual assholes insome of the, um, emergencies.
Yeah.
But I don't think any of them sortof really stuck out, apart from
Greg that kind of really stick outas a, like, I hate that character.

(01:33:25):
There's no Gloria.
Like there's no Gerrard, there'sno Gloria as it's just, you know.
Yeah.
I mean, even the guy who murdered,uh, Athena's fiance was, didn't turn
out to be like a complete asshole.
Um, Mum would like itknowing that the tsunami?
Real good.
I mean, to be fair, thetsunami was really good.

(01:33:45):
I mean,
it, it is like,
I mean, she, she's not wrong.
The general audience, uh,remembers the tsunami.
Um,
I mean there, there is a reasonthat the general audience is kind
of rated that as the highest ratedepisodes for 9-1-1 as a whole.
Um, and I think it is like thegold standard of season opening

(01:34:05):
emergencies that the rest ofthe series try to live up to.
Although, funnily enough, when you thinkabout, you think about tsunami as being
the opening emergency, but it's not.
'cause it doesn't kickinto like episode two.
Yeah, that's right.
We've got a whole episode before that
we have to do like the Phil Collins,um, hit the firetruck episode
first before we get to the tsunami.

(01:34:28):
Oh yeah, that was...Yeah!.
Okay.
So that's a good segue into what wasyour favorite emergency of season three.
And apparently we can't say the tsunami,so you need to think of something else.
Um, I liked the guys standingon the back of the fire truck.
That was cool.
Yes.
That was my favorite emergency.
Um,
yeah, I was gonna saythat one is a, I wonder

(01:34:50):
You can have that one as well.
No, it's fine.
I like the, the surfing of the firetruck.
I enjoyed for the drama of it and the waythat they set it up and the music cue.
I really like the hit the firetruck.
Yeah.
For the drama.
Just because, you know, the, theway they used the Phil Collins
song to, and timed it perfectly.

(01:35:10):
Um,
oh yeah, that was fun.
Yeah.
That's, that's fun.
I liked the, um, I'm going to, I'mgoing to steal another one because
I just remembered about the crows.
I loved that.
Yes.
Chim with the crows.
I did love the crows.
Yeah.
Big fan of crows.
I mean, I didn't like that theboys were throwing rocks at them
to get them to move, but I likedthat the crows fought back.

(01:35:35):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I really liked the, the"Eddie Begins" emergency too.
Like the kid stuck in the well
The little boy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like it was still stupid thatEddie had to move, like stuff
off the hole to find the kid, but
it was very dramatic, very, very tense.
But yeah, it was good.
Like it was very yeah.
Very dramatic.

(01:35:55):
I liked even, I know Nana mentionedthis in the, in her comment earlier,
um, that the woman who run into thatguy and went through her windscreen
and then she drove around with him inthe windscreen for a couple of days.
Yes.
That was so ridiculous.
But then we found out thatit was based on a real story.

(01:36:16):
So
it was based on something real?
Yeah.
That was, that was amazing.
I've said that that storyline andthat episode is like my favorite
of the Halloween episodes.
Yeah.
So I don't know if it's really likenecessarily my favorite emergency, but
I do enjoy that storyline just becauseof the way that it plays out over the
episode and the, the fact that it,it's taken to be a Halloween prank,

(01:36:40):
but then suddenly we realize it'snot and it's actually quite serious.
Yeah.
And I like that Buck's the onethat fixes it and that's what
gets him back in the team.
Yeah, that's right.
But it's also what makes him realize theseverity of like why Bobby sidelined him?
Yeah.
Because it is actually likedangerous for him to do stuff.
Yes.
Um, I think I'm gonna say that myfavorite, besides the riding on

(01:37:03):
the firetruck, um, is Chimney andMaddie working together in "Pinned".
Oh yeah.
Like it's so stupid that like theycan't move the table and like.
It shouldn't have happened that way,but I love them working together.
It's so stupid that she ended up inthat situation in the first place.
Yeah, exactly.
She stepped to the leftinstead of to the right.

(01:37:24):
She wouldn't have been pinned, but Okay.
Yeah.
But yes, them working together is great.
Um,
but I love them workingtogether and it's great.
Okay.
Um, new category for the season threewrap up is going to be, um, we're
not gonna do the, the best we'rejust gonna go for, which is the worst
9-1-1 call, like the literal call into9-1-1 that they showed this season.

(01:37:49):
Um, so I've, I have gone through allof the transcripts and I've pulled
out, um, every 9-1-1 call that is notin any way informative or helpful.
Um, so if you would like to perusethe list, um, and pick which one
is like so bad that you love it.

(01:38:11):
Or it's just like, that is absolutelythe worst thing I've ever seen.
Oh my god, there are so many.
They're all good though.
Uh, for those of you playing athome, there is 9, 9, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
There are nine examples on this list.
I've got my least favorite,

(01:38:32):
and I think when this episode airs,I will put the entire list up on,
um, the episode posts so that you canread through the list and you can pick
your own least favorite 9-1-1 call.
Yes.
Yep.
All right.
Alice is go.
You can go first.
You've picked which one?

(01:38:54):
Oh, "My chef's been creamed,"
like, I'm a hundred percent surethat they only put that emergency
in so they could use that lineand of course, not a good line.
So that's from episode 16,"The One That Got Away" and
that's, that's the guy that, um, Hen likeholds onto his aorta in the ambulance?

(01:39:19):
Yes.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
I think the one that I like, the, uh,the worst, the worst one that I think for
me is "The robots. They're attacking."
Yeah.
And not just because it's actuallythe worst emergency as well, where
the guy pees on the robot and thenit goes crazy, which is just the

(01:39:44):
stupidest thing I've ever heard.
Um, that, that is ahilarious 9-1-1 call as well.
So that's from episodeeight, "Malfunction".
So.
I like "The bowling balls are bleeding."Um, but I'm gonna have to, which
is from "Pinned", um, episode 13.

(01:40:06):
But I'm gonna have to say thatthe one that takes the absolute
cake is from episode 10, which is"Christmas Spirit" when, uh, Lorna
calls in and her, the first wordsout of her mouth are, "I'm blue."
And the dispatcher says, you know,"feelings of sadness and depression are
common. Let me direct you to the mentalhealth hotline." Except it's not that.

(01:40:27):
She's like, metaphysically blue.
She is literally blue.
She's a smurf.
She's literally blue.
Yep.
Yeah.
Oh, so silly.
I mean, I'm surprised as youhaven't got one for every episode.
'cause you know.
Like, it feels like in everyepisode they have to have at least

(01:40:49):
one that's just really stupid.
Well, if you think about it, like thefirst three episodes of the tsunami,
so you're like, no one's makingprank calls during the tsunami arc.
Yeah.
So that's taken it down to 15 episodes.
Um, but yeah, I wentthrough every single one.

(01:41:09):
Those were the only sort ofstupid calls that I could find.
Oh, well done though.
That's a, that's really great work.
So I think we're gonna keep thatas a, um, as a wrap up category
for now and we're going to continue
Yeah.
Rating the 9-1-1 calls that get
Yeah, I like it.
That get made, um, and I think to wrapup the wrap up, this was a question that

(01:41:36):
we got for the season two wrap up, but Ilike it so much that I'm gonna bring it
forward to season three, which is, uh,fuck, marry, kill season three edition.
Yeah.
Um, so I have picked three characters thatwe were introduced to in season three.
Um, and we are going tofuck, marry, kill them.
Um, so fuck, marry, kill Lena Bosco,Albert Han, Frank, the therapist.

(01:42:04):
Ooh.
Oh, I thought I had this.
And then I just realized thatit's season three versions of them
and now I don't think I have this
season three.
And see, this is a hard one becausewhen we did this for season two, for
anyone who hasn't, um, watched theseason, listen to the season two wrap up.
It was Shannon, Josh, and Sal,and I think we were all unanimous

(01:42:26):
that we were gonna kill Sal.
'cause it was quite obviousthat he was like the, the bad
option of the three of them.
I don't think there's a bad optionable.
No,
no.
I, we're all gonna end up havingto kill somebody, but perhaps.
We don't necessarily want tokill, although I don't know what
your feelings are about leanerthat could possibly sway it.

(01:42:48):
I think I've got it.
I think I've just swapped aroundtwo, and now I think I've got it.
You think you've got it if it's just basedon the season three versions of them.
Yes.
Just season three,
I'm going to fuck Albert because heis, he is a fuck boy in this season.
Like I was originally gonnamarry him, but he's a fuck boy
in this season, so fuck Albert.
Yep.

(01:43:08):
Um, he is like, great for a goodnight, but then fuck him off.
Um, marry Lena and, oh, kill Frank.
I'm sorry, Frank.
Oh,
I just, I can't marry a man.
It's just I can't do it.
Whereas Lena like, yes, she's inan illegal fight club, but she
seems to have her shit together.

(01:43:28):
She also doesn't have a cat, so
my allergies would be safe.
All right.
Ellen, do you have an answeror do you want me to go first
to give you time to think?
No, no.
Well, I've got a similar setup.
I will, I will fuck Albert.
And then, um, but, but marry Frank becausehe seems like a really nice fellow and

(01:43:54):
very supportive and I guess long sufferingbecause he does have to talk to all
those people who have a lot of trauma.
Um, but, and Lena, I mean, I'm sorry,she's just the, the least likable
one out of the three, in my opinion,
which feels really mean.
Oh, this is fascinating.

(01:44:16):
I, I totally would have married Frank.
I just, I just can't marry a man.
I just can't do it.
I'm sorry, Frank.
You're very like, it.
It'd be good to be married tosomeone who's emotionally mature,
but I just can't, I can't do it.
Can't marry a man.
That's fair.
Okay.
So my answer was, fuck Lena, marry Frankand then unfortunately kill Albert.

(01:44:43):
Because I think like marrying Frank,you get the bonus of getting to fuck
him every night because he's there.
Um, but I think that,
is that what husbands are for?
Hang on a minute.
Lemme
Um, but I think that that would possiblybe a very stable, um, marriage because
Frank like probably has his shittogether and could help with the sort

(01:45:05):
of keeping the marriage afloat becauseeveryone would be emotionally regulated
and communication skills would be good.
Um, Lena, I think she'd be anabsolute firecracker in bed.
Mm-hmm.
I don't, I mean, I could be wrong.
She could be like an absolute, um, youknow, fight club in the streets and
then pillow princess in the sheets.
I don't think she is though.

(01:45:25):
I think that the rage and theintensity that we see on the
streets would translate to bed.
So I think that would be great.
Um, Albert,
I mean, unfortunately he has to besacrificed for the point of the game.
Yeah.
But I would, I would let him down gently
it's a, it's a harsh game.
Put him down gently.
It is a harsh game.

(01:45:46):
It's fine.
Sorry, Albert and likeseason three Albert.
Yeah.
Yes.
Like, yes, he is a fuckboy in this season.
I just don't know how skilled he would be.
Like, obviously he can pick you up becausewe saw him with like, um, Dr. Rando.
Um, but I don't know what hisperformance level would be like, but
I, whereas I think Lena like, oof.

(01:46:08):
Oh, that's why I'm marrying her.
Yeah.
A hundred percent.
She was originally my fuckbecause of the same reason, but
I just, I can't marry a man.
Understandable.
Okay.
Would just make me sad.
So this would be the part of the wrapup when we would turn to Ellen and go,
so Ellen, what do you think is comingup in season four, but considering

(01:46:32):
you've already started watching seasonfour, I don't know that I can ask that.
'cause you like already know.
Uh, well, we did say someof it at the start already.
Yeah, we did say that at the start.
We have also already talked about it.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to watch the firstfew episodes, but it happened.
No, it's, it's completely understandable.

(01:46:53):
It must be very difficult, thefact that we're forcing you to
only watch one episode a week.
You know what I was,
and you can't just binge it
watching.
I started watching, um, like we've beenwatching the second season of Andor.
And I had to go back to the firstseason because I, it's, there's
so many characters and they're alldoing their own complex stuff that I

(01:47:17):
couldn't remember what was happeningat the end of the first season anyway.
And so I went back and starand like binged like a lot
of season one in, in one go.
And I'm like, oh, is this howit works when you're binging?
Like, it feels like, it feels like areally different experience watching
this like, for instance, week toweek and having to wait for like the

(01:47:37):
next episode a week later to thengoing and watching it all in one go.
Like I feel like at some point I'mgonna have to go back and just watch
like all of season three in one go.
Like it's, it'll feelvery different, I think.
Yes.
I don't mind watching it week to week.
It's fine.
It's like the authentic experience, right?

(01:47:58):
Because
it is the authentic experience.
We're spoiled by, um, bystreaming tv, aren't we?
I think we definitely are and it's changedthe way that we're consuming media.
Yep.
Not necessarily for the better.
Yeah.
But that's probably arant for another day.

(01:48:20):
Um, so I think unless there are anyother questions that either of you
guys wanna throw into the mix orany other comments you wanna make, I
think we have wrapped up season three.
I think we have.
Um, don't really have anyother comments on this season.
Otherwise, other than I'm still enjoyinggoing through and watching it all.

(01:48:46):
Um.
Well, that's good.
Yeah, because it'd be really, it wouldreally suck if you started the whole,
this whole project because you wanted towatch the show and suddenly you're like,
I don't actually wanna watch this anymore.
Like, I'm done and Alice and Iare physically dragging you along.
Like, no, you started this,you have to see it through.

(01:49:06):
Well, considering that everyone'sreaction to what's happening in
the latest season, kind of dreadinggetting that far at the moment.
But anyway, we won't, don't say anything.
Yes, it's an interesting time at themoment, but, um, not gonna say anything.
Okay.
But it's gonna be good havingthis to watch during the break
between season eight and nine.

(01:49:28):
Yeah.
Well, season nine doesn't startuntil what, September or October?
Uh, yeah, in the fall.
So some point.
Uh, well, uh, another big thank you toall the people who sent us comments and
our messages about this season and aboutall of our episodes during this season.

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